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/ss13g/ - spessmen on a spess station

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Last time on /ss13g/ - spessmen on a spess station:
>Solarious can use the rules to grief until the rules are used against him to stop it
>Shuttle that was actually all mimics holy shit that had to hurt the admin's wrists to make
>More terrible antags, as usual
>Medbay, I love you but seriously, read the fucking wiki christ. Cryo is not a majick heel tub

>What is Space Station 13?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHH1vfY6HTA [Embed]
http://pastebin.com/VNcX2Quc

>New player guide
http://ss13.moe/wiki/index.php/The_Basics
http://ss13.moe/wiki/index.php/General_Help

>BYOND client
http://byond.com/download/build/LATEST/

>Pomf Serbian, main /vg/station server
byond://game.ss13.moe:7777

>Test server
byond://ss13.moe:1337

>Public server list
http://byond.com/games/exadv1/spacestation13

>How do I connect to the servers?
Hit the cogwheel in the upper right corner of the BYOND hub and pick "Open Location"

>/vg/station forum and logs + Discord circlejerk
http://ss13.moe/forum/
http://game.ss13.moe/logs
https://discord.gg/HQA4Mhm

>Map renders collection: updated sometimes
http://game.ss13.moe/minimaps/images/maps/

>Coderbus, here!
https://github.com/d3athrow/vgstation13
@rizon #coderbus @rizon #vgstation
https://discord.gg/fE3Ts8A

>Cryo Autism
http://pastebin.com/raw/YmAyagUa

>Round Stats
http://stats.ss13.moe/

>SS13 booru for all your SS13 images!
http://ss13.booru.org/

>How To Install BYOND: The Video Tutorial: The Movie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iWiZwv9f1o [Embed]

>Nostalgia
https://boards.fireden.net/vg/search/text/ss13g/
http://ss13.moe/index.php/bans

>OP Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/raw/z7czw5WQ
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>Cultist outing themselves over comms
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2nd for join the fight against the metaclub today
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>>183860669
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>>183860863

>cultists cutting cameras so the AI and sec will camp nearby and wait for a fuckup
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>>183860948
Some shitters are trying to deadmin the latest admin to earn their ire
Usual stuff
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>>183861030
CUM AT ME BRO.
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>>183861030
>Bolting ghetto surgery and then playing with runes inside
>Gee I wonder what's going on in there, I see some flashing light on the walls
>Sec officer gets suspicious and starts pushing walls for a hidden door
Honestly that cult was not nearly covert enough
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>You can be banned for putting a murderer in perma
Not even bay has this level of admins interfering with IC issues.
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>>183861103
No more coders being ballistic, no shitmins getting their just desserts, no fun griefers?
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>>183861609
Take your appeal to the forums :^)
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>>183861383
Ghetto surgery always starts bolted. Mainly they let that officer die inside there and his SPS went off.
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>>183861609
I might care if solarious brigged other security when they killed antags but he does this selectively to grief.
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>mugumbe got banned from the discord for being a shit (again)
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>183861030

>science is cult
>nobody bothered to go on the meteorite and do the words there
>the guy who was cutting cameras didn't know that it was the best way to make security swarm the place

When you do camera cuts, you want to do it progressively in the hallways first to deter the attention of shitcurity
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>>183861790
Whoops, forgot to post proof.
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>hilarious autistic russian guy banned again
NOOOOOOOO
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>Mugumbe
>Carsh
>Nevill
>Sue
>Morena
>Plaugewalker

Discordbans today
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>>183861919
Alternatively, install remote signalers on a shitload of camera's power wire, then trigger them all at once while you do your business.
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>>183861919
They already had the words at that point. They were just really inefficient at converting people.
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>>183862097
>Carsh
>Nevill
>Sue
Why'd they get discordbanned
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>>183862230
http://ss13.moe/index.php/poll/119
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>>183861790

imagine the salt if everyone in the dorms discord get banned, and dorms removed
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>>183862262
This is bullshit, treating the discord server as a place more exclusive than the thread or forum.
What's next, a subforum for discord bans?
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>>183862279
>kolith
>Grimlock
>Zennyization
>Dizor
>terrelistrait
Would it really be a loss?
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People actually give a fuck about the server discord? There are 5+ metaclub discords my dudes
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>>183862439
it's not more exclusive, its just for the players on.

Forum needs to be for everyone so banned players can appeal.
We cannot police the thread except by reporting off topic posts and hoping the board of /vg/'s single janitor is awake.
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>>183862439
I do agree with you, no reason why people banned from the server should be banned from ss13 highschool. If they were starting shit on the discord too I can understand it though.
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>>183862558
You are like little baby. I am on twenty metaclubs, several of which transcend servers. Two of them even extend between SS13 and lifeweb.
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>>183862558
>5+
>that feel when only in 3 other clubs outside of the main
I wish I was popular
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>>183863565
I can appreciate being inclusive, but why even go on the discord if you're banned? Would anyone do that for any reason other than to start shit?
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>>183862097
At least Nevill unbanned
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>>183863808
To be a sociable human being with people they are friends with and new people to talk to?
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>>183860863
I might've outed my cult...
>>183860000
But check my quads
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>>183864038
With this community I actually find that difficult to believe.
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>>183861790
>>183861950
You really gotta find a find a new person to obsess over
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>>183864480
you're waifu is pretty sociable if you know what I mean
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>>183862279
It's easy as fuck to dodge a discord ban tho
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So is nuke a massive retard? The chaplain was also a traitor.
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>>183865180
>nuke
>retard

He's a genius pretending to be an idiot, only high iq people listen to bob dylan.
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>Be chemist
>Shoot the shit with other chemist
>Medbay becomes school shootout, get killed
>some generous soul clones me, as I'm cloning EMP goes off or something
>Wake up, everyone is dead and fucked
>borg fixes cloner
>Speed clone like, 4 people before shuttle docks and make it out alive

WEW
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>>183859770
detectives seem to be the target of a lot of shitposting lately, but if it's fun I'll keep playing detective
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>>183866798
What even happened that round? I spent the whole round secluded in my department and never saw any traitors except for weird shit on the coms
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>Play the game for almost a year
>Have a new server idea
>Open the editor to figure out if I can do it myself instead of being the IDEAS GUY
>Try to figure out how to remove all the old maps and make a new one from scratch
>Errors everywhere
>Can't make it work without putting new map files in the old file structure
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>>183867404

try asking on the discord or one of the admin for help on making a new map
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>>183860948
>new map based on donutstation, called bagelstation
>Elon Musk aka Souhei got permabanned after some hero used a vpn to ban request them
biggest 2 events of late
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>>183861787
>other security
Sec is like the only one authorized to do so.
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>>183867631
Under the justification he's used, no
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>>183861787
detectives aren't supposed to brig people anyway, it was just a rare case of solo security.
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>" I don't really get a kick out of it"
>Bends over backwards to rules lawyer to perma a guy for killing an antag
>Gushing spaghetti all over the place so he can get back to toe the line griefing people over non-issues
Really makes you think if such a cancerous tumor like solarious should be able to play at all
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>Mime
>Having a fun round.
>Mostly just stealing things and putting them in my studio.
>Things stolen by round end: Skrite, Upgraded Janicart, Pick-Axe, Bluespace Beaker filled with Sulfuric Acid
>Was thinking of things to do with these things before I come down with some kind of sickness.
>Go to Medbay to get some care.
>Get murderhoboed by some guy, and his borg cronies.
>Sec does nothing about this and he's actually able to blow half the station with the supermatter.
>Mfw
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>>183868146
*kicks you*
I guess you could say he really got a KICK OUT OF THAT one.
*whole admin team stands up and claps*
get dabbed on hater
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What are the best things you can do with the supereat genetic mutation?!
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>>183868464
Eat the shard
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>Spawn in as posibrain after previous one ghosted or something
>Robo asks me what I want to be
>"Whichever is the most helpful!"
>Suddenly crab
>Well okay, this is fine, just got to namepick and–
>Cover unlocked
>Wait what
>FOREIGN SOFTWARE!!11!!!1!!
>Well fuck
>God damn it, I even made a typo in the name, too
>"Go cause trouble my lil fiend"
>Well okay I have no idea what I'm doing but sure
>Scurry over to engineering and try to fuck around with AAC, give up because lack a master-script, fuck with a few alarms instead
>Set gas mixer to 100% N2 and volume pumps at full power, but didn't seem to accomplish much
>See greyshit trying to fill plasma tanks
>Open valve again as she takes it out to be as D E V I L I S H as possible and activate the shard as well
>Borg spaces it because too slow, fuck off over to xenobio to see monsters
>Try to fuck things up without exiting the vent, turning off the lights and opening doors trying to ZAS
>Give up and notice Telescience with an alien in it along with the CMC and cameras set up
>OwO what's this?
>Teleport first guy, alien seems to just ignore him and he just walks out
>Fucking what
>Hook up blasma instead and teleport again
>Miner, must have had a lit welder or something because it immediately ignited
>Use blasmafire to ruin the concept of suit sensors for everyone again
>Scurry away after enough murderboning, only for master to get beaten to death by a borg
>Drag him to medbay and try to treat him, but he has no blood
>Defib, fill him with meds and hook him up to IV
>IV doesn't work
>Try using a giant syringe to manually transfer, but that fails too
>Meanwhile, borgo and le super antag murderbones the entirety of medbay
>Give up and hang around, watching until EMP blast wrecks my shit
>*buzz
>Get picked up and brought aboard the shuttle, without anyone aware of my actions
>Worry about how many stars my software will get in the next review until shuttle docks
>My only regret is that I never got to wiggle
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>4579ms

I just wanted to play space
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>>183868265
Thanks 2spicyporkcheektubes

>>183868609
The air tank already has a lot of gas and probly so does distro. What you need to do is use the button on the table by the airmix pen to vent it to space then go valve distro in to scrubber into waste and help it dump to space. This will clean out the pipes for your pure nitrogen. Then by creating breaches or hacking shit open to space it'll vent parts of the station and oxygen levels will drop.

Next time if you're worried about non-hacked borgs, sabotage comms then go kill a science member with your stun arm and what the fuck ever I don't care. then make a robo control and blow the non-hacked ones. If you can get them to, have your master make bomb tanks from anywhere so you can hide it in robo as a prox to kill all 1 guy that cares about the borgs.
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>>183867558
You forgot new new map called Packedstation
It is very small
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Unban him already
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>>183869534
Oh, well that would've definitely helped a lot more. Thanks.

And as for the borg, I meant that the shard was never going to blow in time because it was still in secure storage, and I didn't want to risk getting spotted trying to wire up the emitters right there.
And the worst part is, the assistant apologized so much it made me feel bad.
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>>183871152
Move the shard where you want it, shut off the scrubbers open some plasma canisters and spark it. it starts delamination after like 800C
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>>183870665
should unban 3hotdogs first
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>google 2hotdogs
>banned in VG
>banned in TG
>banned in hippie

what a lad
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>>183868152
>Sec does nothing about this and he's actually able to blow half the station with the supermatter.


there was one detective who died in the brig and a HoS who went braindead on the arrivals shuttle
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>>183868609
>emagged
>law 1: Protect syndicate agent
>Plasmaflood
???
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>>183873860
>banned from a server that's a shadow of its old self
>banned from the official zeroRP reddit server where people play with names like Lulz Cuck McGee
>banned from the official edgy teenager server

2hotdogs did NOTHING wrong. I want to go back to the good old days of SS13 when we had good servers
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Very high quality round, shout-out to everyone who interacted with me because they were all great
Especially the hilarious rude borg
>amazing, helpful assistant builds me a kick-ass office
>wizards are friendly and funny
>IAA pressures me on paper
>Captains are both chill
>vox gives me opiate for a paper

Here's the photoshoot for anyone interested too- http://imgur.com/a/gvzcb
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>everyone keeps mistaking my character for a girl due to my ponytail
>at times start acting like a girl without even knowing it
muh male ponytails reeee
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>>183874375
now this is journalism.

if I was playing I'd have paid you a tip of 5-10 credits.
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Reminder that it was a mistake to unban Solarious
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>>183874751
Thank!
On that note another shoutout to the doctor who joined and gave me 100 credits for one paper
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Reminder that it was a mistake to ban Solarious
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Reminder that it was a mistake, we were on a break
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>>183874375
That whole bit was amazing. Salty borgo and Agent Catterson were great, would wiz with again.

Also shout-out to the clown and our dorky hero team, sorry you wound up doing most of the base building on your own, but the idea was really fun.
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>>183875356
I totally would've joined the Clown Club if I hadn't been so busy with other stuff, I was wondering what came of that
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>>183874375
>Kurt has already fugged Fuura
Welp, cross her off the list.
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Oh man I love low RP secret.
Can /vg/ please get a medium RP week so there's a reason for non-shitters to play it?
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friendly reminder /vg/station is dead, it's VGstation now
remember to plasma flood every time you get antag, make sure you have your chloral autoinjector on all the time and go braindead when you don't get antag
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>>183861609
The fuck?
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>>183876816
solosec detective arrests obviously antag clown
chaplain wants dem valid and murders clown while he's cuffed
detective permabrigs chaplain for murder
chaplain ahelps and detective gets sec banned
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>>183876816
What, you didnt hear about this pomf? Solarious in his new account, donnager, permad the chaplain who killed a clown who emagged into his office with a bananium sword in hand, clown got beaten, then solarious put coffs on him, chaplain kept killing him, solarious shoved him in perma and kept him there.

He even has a headmin appeal in the forums trying to say that it was valid for him to perma people when 4 different admins told him it was not okay to perma people for getting valids when rule 6 makes it aokay if the admin says so, here is a link http://ss13.moe/forum/viewtopic.php?f=32&p=20813&sid=7fe8db17377d4c7ea20ac00cf0a74f77#p20813 where solarious once again acused people of metaclubing and metagrudging people.
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>>183876816
Read the discord pomfers, we pinged you. We've had a lengthy discussion regarding that specific topic.
Also, check headadmin appeal to get a better grasp of the situation. It isn't as simple as what that anon said.
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>>183876816
>clown unzips esword and walks at the chaplain
>clown disconnects because russian internet
>officer stuns clown
>chaplain beats the stunned and cuffed clown to death
>clown is revived in medbay and perma'd with antag items taken
>chaplain is arrested (evades arrest from a borg with law 2) later
>put in perma for murder
>instantly ahelps
>officer refuses to unperma him because space law says murder is perma
>admin security bans them
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>>183877039
Fuck off mugumbe, you've been a shitter since you got here.
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>>183877039
>making a single bad joke about metafriending in the admin team means you're accusing people of metaclubbing and metafriending
>making a single bad joke means your entire appeal is in vain

Is this baystation?
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>>183877148
>it was only a joke haha
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>>183877107
>if you don't side with a powergaming griflord you must be mugabe
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>>183876816
Just read http://ss13.moe/forum/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=3877 and make up your own mind pomf.

The thread is all anonymous banned shitposters or anonymous sadly not banned shitposters.
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>it's not okay for sec to brig validhunters for murdering tators as non sec
GET YOUR NORP VALIDHUNT ON
ONLY ON VGSTATION TTT
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speaking about bans, what happened to the madman who ick ocked in thread last night by posting a webm?
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>>183877310
>>183877085
>>183877057
>>183877039
>>183877032
I'm tired as fug but I don't like how this was handled I mean theres nothing saying the chaplain can't kill the clown since he's an enemy of the station but there's nothing saying security has to let them either.
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>>183877432
MUGUMBE ON SUICIDE WATCH
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>>183877085
Minor detail missing
>Asked to unperma Chaplain because that not a fair sentence for Interfering with Arrest and Resisting Arrest
>Goes to do so
>Discovers Chaplain has cut themself and killed the Clown to try to frame them for attempted murder
At that point permaing the Chaplain was justified.
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>>183877432
We bay now
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>>183877528
Yes I did forget that, how could I forget such a valid argument.
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>>183877432
The issue is the detective getting permavalids for shit thats common to the station, killing and beating the fuck out of nukeops, traitors, lings, wizards and the like is fine and has always been fine but now sec decides that if you kill a nigger that clearly wanted to kill and chop you to bits, you get sent to perma even when you go wilingly to sec to talk about it and resolve it.

Why would anyone be permad for killing a clown who emagged into their office with a bananium sword in hand and a intent to kill? Its self defense, not murder, and even if it was murder, enemy of the corp means they are exempt from space laws anyways, they are outlaws, they dont get lawfull protection and are a target to be killed anyhow so killing them is perfectly fine and no consequences should occur.
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>>183877598
>and the like is fine and has always been fine
find me that part of space law or the rules

>enemy of the corp means they are exempt from space laws anyways
find me that part of space law or the rules
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Anything that gets more trials going on the station is good by me
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>>183877643
>and the like is fine and has always been fine

Serb culture ;^^^^^)
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>>183877432
No pressure but your decision on the matter is going to set a precedent. If sec is free to perma you for killing proven antags you might as well rework the entire idea of space law, considering it does not apply to enimies of the corp.
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>>183877598
As sec before I've arrested somebody who got their wgw valids years ago, murder ic is still murder ic
just because you're fine ooc doesn't make you fine ic
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>>183877598
>enemy of the corp means they are exempt from space laws anyways
no it doesn't
LITERALLY NOWHERE in Space Law is ANYONE other than Security/Heads given permission to kill ANYONE for ANY reason
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we need to stop validhunting
solarious did nothing wrong
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>>183877729
a wgw reader isn't out to murder you.
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>>183877729
>just because you're fine ooc doesn't make you fine ic
If pomf says it's fine does MrPain even need to approve the appeal?
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>>183876816
>>183877432
Solarious has been toe the line griefing being a hardass about insignificant shit as sec to get as much arrest valids and brig time as he can even when it's not hurting anyone or is otherwise insignificant. One example was when he was pushlocking a vox viro who wanted to explore space. Viro presumably cause all the assistant slots were taken. He went over and pushlocked him for minutes then when the vox tried to get him to stop soalrious revolvered the vox and charged him with assault of an officer. This time he perma'd a chaplain for killing clown with a banana esword. I wouldn't care half as much but he doesn't brig other sec when they kill people despite his defense in the chaplain case of hurr only the captain can approve killing. He's just toeing the line to grief and bully people and in my opinion should just be re-perma'd. His perma never should have been lifted in the first place.

The key part is where after being secbanned he doubled down on being a shitter and did shit like raising the brig timer on the scientist with the Q name. Just read admin logs from the day.

Perma is taking people out of a round and he killed an antag clown isn't justification for that.

>>183877528
Wow it's almost like he wouldn't want someone who attempted to murder him to live.
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>>183877643
>>183877598
>>183877718
>>183877729
What if Rule 3 of killing people was changed to waive any Space Law charges regarding murder, but not others one such as Interfering with Arrest?
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>>183877729
MUSTARDSHITTER

B
T
F
O
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stop the countdown
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>>183877729
Is this post the end of rampant validshittery??
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>>183877727
>>183877793
No decisions made right now but he continued to beat somebody who was cuffed when he was told to stop, manslaughter 10 minutes maybe idk it bypassed self defense

>>183877792
True

>>183877797
No I don't think perma is justified but some IC punishment yeah.
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Pomf when will packed be available on lowpop
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>>183877729
Please say this to the other admins or post on tge appeal, Mustardnigger is a powertripping retard with a huge ego.
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>>183877598
There is a line crossed when you kill an antag sec has already captured and cuffed. At that point theres no threat and no self defense and is akin to finishing off an attacker in self defense irl. You'd go to jail even though he attacked you to begin with, many such cases.

Had the clown been robusted in combat and died prior to sec cuffing and capturing him, there'd be no issue. But killing an captured prisoner as chaplain is just shitty. I would of locked him up too.
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Remember, if you kill wizards, ops, traitors, revs, cultists or catbeats that are incapacitated you

A
R
E

a murderer and will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
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>>183877839
I hope
now we only need to hold antags to high standard
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>>183877729
Well fair enough then pomf, I guess ill make some donuts and do nothing but shitpost in the newscaster when I kill the mutate wizard that came to plunder our bootyholes or defend myself from a double e-sword maniac.
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>>183877797
>One example was when he was pushlocking a vox viro who wanted to explore space. Viro presumably cause all the assistant slots were taken. He went over and pushlocked him for minutes then when the vox tried to get him to stop soalrious revolvered the vox and charged him with assault of an officer.
Solarious + Another officer did it, for a minute at most.
The vox punched which is assault, the vox was stunned with the detective's only stun gun. (FIVE BRUTE AT MOST)
The vox never actually served brig time, the officer just told him to go do his job and stop being a shit
the vox ignored it and went to space anyway

Want to space explore? Assistant or Trader!

>The key part is where after being secbanned he doubled down on being a shitter and did shit like raising the brig timer on the scientist with the Q name
That has already been explained on the forums
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>>183877915
t. retard

if the antag's been captured go back to doing your job, but i assume that's too much of an alien concept for validhunting inbreds like you
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>>183877903
it should be 0-16 players availibility, is that too low?
>>183877915
>>183877952
I should stop posting while I'm half asleep I don't manage to get my proper point across.
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>>183877915
Well actually under space law wizards, ops, vampires and lings are considered always armed and dangerous and should be shot dead and not taken alive like traitors.

Vampires are technically covered by space law but in the SOP you are told to use lethals on them and not stuns as they're too dangerous to take alive.
>>183877952
Wizards are shoot to kill always, they are always considered armed and dangerous.
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You idiots are missing the fact that the Chaplain had already smashed the clown 11(eleven) times before the taze and cuffs was in place.
The Clown was lethally wounded before the cuffing even took place.
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>>183877884
Pomf i love you but I have to go along with >>183877909
Tiger locked the appeal yesterday without literally anyone else getting input aside from Donnager. He also has a recent history of trying to do anything possible to fuck over anyone who plays Clown, just because. He's like Pain in that he's a massive hardass but he's not nearly as smart or skilled at the game as Pain is, so he's everything shitposters make Pain out to be.
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>>183878051
>kept bashing a stunned guy for a full T E N S E C O N D S
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>>183878051
The Clown died because noone dragged him to Medbay and because the Chaplain kept beating him.
Putting both of them in Perma was a mistake though, you have to make sure prisoners are safe and those two tried to kill each other
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>>183878006
Then make the point clear.

If we kill antags, do we get jail or not.

If we defend ourselves from said antags, do we get jail or not.

If we go out of our ways to kill a antag, do we get jail or not.

If we pre-emptively atack antags before they kill us, do we get jail or not.
>>183878038
Wizards are antags and from what pomf said, murder ic is punishable anyhow so no, antags used to be shoot to kill anyhow so I dont see how wizards are now exempt when pomf said punish antag killers with murder and perma.
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I got a link to the new rules pomf is rolling out. Valid hunters BTFO

>Try to avoid killing needlessly

>this includes yourself. Even in self-defense your goal is to fight off your attack and escape to go get help, killing should only be done as a last-ditch effort when it's clear it's a you or them situation.

>Suiciding is almost NEVER allowed and must be done with admin permission first.

>Caving in someone's skull for cutting in line, stabbing yourself in the eye with a screwdriver because you are bored or jumping out an airlock because you're sad are all examples of improper killing.

>An exception can be made if the killing was not entirely on purpose, as our health and medical system can be evil at times.

>As an example, getting into a minor fist fight with someone and that person eventually dying from blood loss or a broken jaw may not be your fault.

>Remember, the ultimate call on whether or not a kill was okay is up to the admins to decide.
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>>183877956
Det revolver is 10 brute.
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>>183878141
WIZARDS AND TRAITORS ARE
NOT
THE
SAME
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>>183878143
I feel like this is from Bay but there's nothing wrong with most of it. Unless someone is hyper aggro you really shouldn't be killing.
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>>183878082
>admin has to keep a appeal of his ban open so that others might give input
???
admins can directly close and deny or accept a appeal if its about one of their bans. That is why headmin appeals exist, so you can try to get the ban appealed when the banning admin tells you to fuck off.
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>pomf will never post his opinions to the forum
>pomf won't post this to the admin discord or tell mrpain what he thinks
>pain will deny the appeal
>validhunting will remain /vg/ culture
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>>183878051
>not finding a way to run away
>not calling for help

There is never an excuse to murder unless you know there is no way out. The chaplain knew there was sec and he refused to let the boys in red handle it. Any injuries he would have sustained would have been healed once help arrived.
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>>183877884
It's completely unreasonable to leave a guy that wants to and is fully allowed to use anything he can to kill you alive. It's a coin flip and if you lose that flip you're out of the fucking round without any admin support for fucking what?

>>183877910
Fucking kill yourself

>>183877956
Attacking someone then charging them when they defend them is straight up griefing you nigger I hope you fucking die
Rubbers are 10 + oxyloss if you RNG'd a bleed

The slot restriction doesn't always allow for that
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>>183878006
>0-16
Could be slightly more. Even now at this time of the day there are 21 players on.
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>>183878143
>He doesn't understand the concept of admin rules and space law
If someone is valid you can kill him, but that doesn't mean it is legal in space law
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>>183878271
ok increased it.
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>>183878181
https://wiki.baystation12.net/Rules

it is from bay
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>>183878276
>Selectively enforces that only when it allows him to get away with griefing people
Fucking kill yourself. Stop making excuses for when your fuccbuddies kill people
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>>183878167
Both are murderers, here to antag, usually armed, with intent to kill, enemies of the corporation, humans for the most part and exist in stations. If a antag kill nets you a perma, so does a wizard, you don't get to be selective in which valids you arrest for, they are both enemies of the corp, you don't get to selectively choose which you want to murder freely and which you don't, they are both human antags, if one human antag nets you perma, so do others.
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>>183877741
This.
Validhunting is the cancer and brigging validhunters is the cure.
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>>183877432
How about you just leave it alone because you don't know shit about your own server and you just make retarded kneejerk decisions which help no one.
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>>183878256
>Attacking someone then charging them when they defend them is straight up griefing you nigger I hope you fucking die
but they didn't get charged?
How can a detective charge somebody?
The officer dealt with it and didn't give them brig time, just told them to straighten up and fly right.
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>>183878351
k
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Someone shop a clown in here.
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>>183878271
It has to be below 25 because that map will not work with ops and blob.
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>>183878315
>increasing meme station pop requirement that will take a whole month more to make half decent so box deff and meta lowpop never exists

Pomf, for what purpose.
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>>183878365
Pomf, post your opinions to the forum. You are the host and your opinion matters, don't listen to anonymous thread shitposters that are mad you disagree with them.
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>>183878351
Don't talk to pomf that way retard. Kill yourself.
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>>183878353
Yes, because another guy who isn't a griefing autist is there
The same way he perma's the chaplain
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>>183878365
Don't "k" me. You haven't made a single good decision since you decided to start including yourself in the servers business again. Just go back to being depressed and distant, things worked better here then.
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Daily reminder pomf is based and knows the rules better than anyone
Daily reminder shitmins and hippier shitters hate him for not liking valid hunting
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>>183878424
But deff and meta sucks??????
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>>183878521
>meta sucks

Heresy, space yourself my man.
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>clown is in church to confess his sins
>been getting his act together, reapplied to clown college
>opens the door to the chaplains office, obviously concerned he is sitting there silently, possibly injured

>SUDDENLY
>the chaplain, in a drunken daze (no doubt from a late night validhunting session) lifts his fat, balding head
>he eyes the innocent, smiling clown with utter distaste and hatred
>as the mad, violent chaplain closes in on the clown, he offers his prized bananium sword that has been in his family for generation
>the chaplain beats the clown mercilessly, screaming "GET OUT OF TOWN CLOWN"

>as the clown lays dying, he prays for the soul of the chaplain
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>>183878254
I don't even know if this is ironic or not
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>>183878675
>Leonid banned again
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>>183878597
I cried, truly a terrible tragedy
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>>183878718
He really isnt a bright lad.
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>>183878739
he's a ruskie
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>>183878051
>implying shitlarus wasn't waiting for the clown to die so he get get dem brigvalids
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>>183878597
;_;

HE WUZ A GOOD CLOWN

HE DIN DU NUFFIN

NEED MORE MONEY FOR DEM SPESS LUBES
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>>183877987
>let people out to kill you go otherwise it's validhunting

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>/baystation/
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>>183878910
>permabrig is letting someone go

mcfucking kill yourself
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>>183878947
Fucking this.
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>>183878206
Most of the whining in here is donnager and his metabuddies. Any person who is not a drooling imbecile knows that killing syndies is not something you go to perma for.

>cherrypicking space law so you can give someone a dicking in the brig
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>>183878947
>>183879085
samefag
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>>183879096
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>>183878947
>>183879085
>Trivially escaped from unless you're a drooling retard
Mcfucking kill yourself
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>>183878675
What heckles my feckles is that Solarious took someone out of the round for doing something by the rules they are allowed to do.
There was no escalation to it in the case of repeated offenses (be it greytiding or shittery). There was no proof the Chaplain was a syndicate either.
Yet they threw them in perma and ended their round for killing an antagonist in self defense.
He also seems to also not understand that the server is low-rp minimum. Enforcing Space Law at this is just a guide-line, you aren't allowed to use it to griff people and doing so will get you on a fast track to a security ban. You cannot force people to go along with your higher level of roleplay.
It's clear to me they haven't grow an inch since their permaban and it was a huge mistake to unban them in the first place. I honestly hope Pain reads this all and does what is needed for the betterment of the community.
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>>183877910
>Had the clown been robusted in combat and died prior to sec cuffing and capturing him, there'd be no issue.
The clown would have died a mere minute later what difference does it make? The detective wouldn't have had the time to get him healed before death.
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Detective players are almost always shitty judge dredd faggots who don't do any actual investigating or snooping.
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>>183879167
Literally nowhere in the rules does it say you can kill a traitor and not be brigged for it (unless the captain says it's okay)

Just read space law once
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>>183878038
>Wizards are shoot to kill always, they are always considered armed and dangerous.
And the clown had a brandished e-sword he was also armed and dangerous you idiot
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>>183879128
please die

>>183879159
if the antag escapes perma he deserves it desu

game's got to be fun for everyone, not just for your dumb ass click until others go horizontal
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>>183877792
>a wgw reader isn't out to murder you.

A person who reads WGW has nothing left to live for, thus, they are the most dangerous people on the station.

Also catbeasts have rights. There is NOTHING in space law that mentions the validity of catbeasts.
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>>183879140
Pomf doesn't play and has no idea what he's even talking about.
Remember he banned two people for playing as antagonists in a way he doesn't like. All he is to the server is a host and should not be making administrative decisions unless he wants to start pulling his weight and take over properly as the head admin.
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>>183879243
>game's got to be fun for everyone

Especially for the guy who gets to arbitrarily perma people you massive faggot.
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>Solarious gets unbanned
>mugumbe asshurt

>Solarious stays banned
>solarious asshurt

I love win-win situations.
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>>183879238
He wasn't armed and dangerous when he was tazed, cuffed and lying in crit.
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I guess officers should just start permaing people who lynch lubers and wgw readers too.
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>>183879243
That's the whole problem, he shouldn't be permabrigging someone for not being a victim which is exactly what happened. the clown shouldn't treated and given more opportunities to remove someone from the round once lethal intent is shown. The fun of an antag who's tried to remove a guy from the round doesn't matter.

And if you want to really talk about fun, talk about a detective permabrigging a guy for not wanting to be murdered later in the round you fucking cunt.
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>>183879140
>someone reading porn over the radio is the same as a clown with a banana sword

Oh yes, this server is going places.
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>>183879423
Solarious' sec perma should be upgraded to a server permaban. Even if it stays he's going to just move on and grief more. There's no benefit to keeping him here.
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>>183879304
>>183879489
See
>>183879140
Get fucked validniggers
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>>183879441
So as soon as a wizard, changeling, and vampire hit crit you must stop or it is moidah.
I guess we should start permaing officers who kill traitors in self-defense as well.
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>>183879562
Defend yourself in a court of space law
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>>183879446
Well yeah, there's nothing in space law that says they CAN'T. Lube is just a prank and wgw is WORDS. If you want your valids you're gonna get da book.

In all honesty I'm excited the server is finally coming around to a higher level of RP. Lubing halls and reading porn does not allow you to get away with murder.
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>>183879562
Anon you're not actually that retarded are you.
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>>183879562
You fail once more to see that the antag had been neutralized, and the chaplain went in for the kill just for MUH BALID

>this is the average validhunter's IQ
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>>183879553
Not him, but I'm new. Does Solarous have a history of this, or is it just a meme?
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Why do retards keep bringing up valids?

THEY WERE DOUBLE TRAITORS YOU FUCKING MORONS. THEIR ORDERS WERE TO KILL EACH OTHER.
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If you have anything constructive to say please post it to the correct page on the forum with logs/evidence/whatever you need to prove your statement.
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>>183879668
He's a massive shitter with a long history of griff, so he gets jumped on by everyone out of a deserved grudge. However, he's right this one time.
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>>183879554
There's a difference between wgw readers who are just trying to die and maybe killbait and an antag that tries to kill you fuckhead
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>>183879715
The thread is just for anonymous cowards, nobody here actually has the balls to go in the thread and stand up to lowRP shits
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>>183879715
Solarious posted all the logs to prove the validity of their actions already, Mustard is just too much of a stubborn validnigger.
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Daily reminder to always flee from antags because murder is wrong
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>>183879668
in the past did lots of forum shittery and made a lot of people mad with pretty bad ban requests for not good reasons.

Reformed and made a new ckey but people are still mad and look for an excuse to shitpost.
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So you can't kill people or else you get banned? Cool rule!
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>>183879758
>security arrests man
>"lol i'l just kill him for good measure anyway, what is SOP"

fuck off to hippie
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>>183879237
"IC fights and issues that escalate up to murder are generally fine as long as the escalation is reasonable. “Reasonable” is up to the judgement of the admin, however. Minor issues like demotions, insults, or non-critical thefts are not reason to kill."
"Confirmed antagonists are valid for killing. If you didn't know they were an antagonist when you killed them though, you can't use this excuse."
"Permabrigging generally takes people out of the round. If you want to permabrig somebody, you should have a reason that would also justify execution."
These are in the rules. The server rules. As you can see it clearly equates permabrigging someone to killing them, as both removes them from the round. Note how it says who decides what is reasonable escalation. Murder of a valid target is a minor issue at best. Even IC. "Only the Captain can order executions" is just RP fluff for lawyers and IAA.
Never in the two years of playing on /vg/ have I ever seen someone be punished IC for getting their valids on a valid target. It's forcing someone to play at a higher level of RP than the servers baseline. The only way this would have been acceptable was if Solarious confirmed the Chaplain was a traitor too. And we know that he didn't, so he can't use that as an excuse to get out of it.
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>>183879876
Server rules is OOC valid not IC valid. As pomf said >>183877729 here, you can kill an antag and not be SERVER BANNED but that doesn't make you immune to IC PUNISHMENT
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>>183879859
Here we have a post from the average validhunter, whose IQ is too low for reading comprehension.
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>>183879876
go back to hippie
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>>183879951
And again Pomf doesn't play his own server and hasn't for a long time. This is a low RP server whether you like it or not.
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>>183880027
>uhh you know you don't really live in your summer house so I can go there and shit everywhere lul
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>>183880027
>we're low rp minimum so space law shouldn't apply to me
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>>183879668
He has a long history of griefing. He started chasing ban valids by making ban requests for incidents he not only wasn't involved in but had no grasp of the situation at all. After his perma he's been sticking to toe the line shit like this and the vox. Just being shitcurity.

>>183879709
Which has nothing to do with the matter at hand because the det wasn't and had no clue the chaplain was. You can't permabrig someone for shit reasons and it's okay cause the victim was an antag
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>>183879951
Pomf hasn't decided anything you nignog. Not yet at least.
We are still waiting for an official response from him or pain.
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>>183880027
It's too bad you're an anonymous shitter while Pomf's word is the law, whether you like it or not.
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This is all one gigantic step away from the actual issue.

The detective was ok with imprisonment, but perma was going to far, and the biggest issue was

>have 4 admins telling you to release the chap
>lol nowtf are you his metafriends?
>get week banned
>still argue
>get permabanned

>massive shitfit in the discord
>massive shitfit in the thread
>massive shitfit on the forums, shocking for Solarious

This year has been so fucking good, shitters dropping like FLIES.
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>>183879951
>Just let a guy who tried to kill you trivially escape perma and show back up with lube and chloral for a dank silent spacing
Literally what?
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>>183879876
This

I fucking hate to say it but space law is a guideline, one Im happy most sec uses and obeys to reasonable levels but that on occasion, permavalids and arest validfags go full nutjob lawyers to justify what they want to do while ignoring other parts of server laws and even space laws.

Nobody ever remembers the "time detained counts as time spent in jail" part because its really not practical, same with permaing people who kill the wizard who went mad or the clown that made the columbine look like a fucking joke, most sec players know its dumb as shit to perma someone for beating a antag to death even when restrained, if you are so agaisnt it, stun em and tell them to stop but permaing them is just you looking and scouring the space law wiki page for the sake of arest valids, id have been okay with 5 minutes and a implant for assault but come the fuck on, murder and perma?
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>>183880107
He had no reason to release him
>>
this level of shitposting is TOO HIGH

no more shitposting below this line

- - - ANTI SHITPOSTING LINE - - - TAKE IT TO THE FORUMS - - -
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>>183880145
The law is the law you validhunting faggot
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>>183880151
How about, I dunno, he killed the fucking confirmed antag who tried to kill him? Sec should have helped decapitate the clown and go cake the brain not fucking treat him. You can talk fun and IC all you want, you're not the one that has an assassin after them who will happily see them destroyed or spaced. Fuck off.
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>>183880151
>treasonous fuck dies from injuries
>IT'S MURDER LOCK HIM UP AND THROW AWAY THE KEY

It's ironic, all of donns fuckbuddies are here crying about valids when the real validhunter is the guy looking for excuses to perma. Also

>raising cell timers
Fuck bans, I hope he literally has a stroke.
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>>183880151
Read the rules retard.
Rule 6.
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>>183880145
You like to metagame the antag's knowledge too much, you think a ruski retard like Leonid could come up with an actual successful silent killing? Nope, your reasoning's been denied.
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>>183879562
officers are legally allowed to perform field executions in extenuating circumstances according to spesslaw
donnager didn't have to even arrest the clown, he was legally allowed to murder the fucker in the chapel
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>>183880148
I remember the time detained part if they aren't being a giant hassle. It's nice when someone isn't a faggot so by the time we're done excavating his butthole we can just turn him loose instead of having to watch cameras until he's done
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>>183880265
>>raising cell timers
literally added up all his crimes and gave the person the correct time. Are you supposed to not follow space law for crime times now?
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>>183880282
you have no idea if they can or not until they do. If anyone's metagaming it's you saying that because you know the player is shit it's okay to baby them.

>>183880289
He was already critted then cuffed which isn't allowed under those
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>>183880275
>>183880151
>tfw both sides will hate you for saying that the admin decision in an IC issue was overboard
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>>183880289
Chaplain
Is
Not
A
Security
Officer
He
Is
A
Civilian

It
Is
Murder
To
Execute
A
Stunned
Prisoner
Without
Permission
From
Captain
Or
A
Trial
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>>183880386
even executions are murder
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>>183880386
Oh I know, never implied the Chaplain was in the right.
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>all this thread shitposting
>nobody posting on the forum
Can everyone post it on the forum if you want to discuss it more, in the forums there's less shitposting and MrPain can read it all and make his verdict.
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>>183880083
It applies as a guide-line, not as a set book of rules for players and security.
Using it as a book of rules is higher up on the RP scale and leads to griefing people. You're given the freedom to use your brain and think what would be an appropriate punishment. We're all here to have fun and play a game. Removing someone from the round for doing something valid is anti-fun and a huge dick move.
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>>183880374
It's not overboard and didn't go far enough in fact Solarious is toeing the line to grief. He doesn't give a flying fuck about the law, he only cares about what will enable his grief now that hews he's in the hotseat from his last perma. That's why he's projectile vomiting spaghetti all up and down the discord, forums, and thread. He's just a griefer.

>>183880386
>Just give an antag a second chance to murder you bro
Do you have any clue how fucking retarded you sound?
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>>183880471
>>Just give an antag a second chance to murder you bro
>Do you have any clue how fucking retarded you sound?
POTENT HAMS
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>>183880458
>post on forum
>added to sawbones' grudge list

He went out of his way to get his dindu buttbuddy RFultra out of trouble, but is staying silent over this matter.
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>>183880464
"This is just a guideline and you aren't forced to follow it to the letter, but if you don't you should expect tons of conflicts with other people."
The second line on http://ss13.moe/wiki/index.php/Space_Law tells you that following it to the letter is preferred as if you don't follow it to the letter people will get mad at you with conflicts.
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>>183880464
>literally saying it's bad to RP
FUCK OFF BACK TO HIPPIE
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>>183880386
did you guys spaced a cuffed man to space?
if so you guys deserve all the bans... holy shit...
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>>183880458
Pain fucking hates solarious. You are naive to think this is going to end in any other way than solarious biting the bullet.
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>>183880328
Fuck off Solarious you griefing faggot, you don't arbitrarily jack up cell timers to fuck people over.

It makes sense why you're fighting the perma so hard, people like you love to play security.
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>>183880518
Actually it's probably harm from one attempt already and confirmed that he's a syndicate agent that's done an assassination attempt.

>>183880552
The implied intent is don't brig people for 20 minutes for having insulated gloves.
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>>183880610
if you kill one person the asimov AI can't arbitrarily disregard you for the next two hours
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>solarious making a deadmin request
http://ss13.moe/forum/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=3879
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>>183880464
Why didn't the admins tell detective to brig him for 10 minutes like it was suggested according to spesslaw instead of "LOLBANNED"?
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>>183880656
PLEASE LET IT BE TIGER
>>
If you want to fight antags, play Security.
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>>183880646
Yes it can. The AI can fucking weld you into a wall if it wants.
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>>183880595
Explain how increasing the cell timer because you forgot to add a huge crime to the timer is a bad thing?

Especially since it was increased within a minute of the timer being initially set.
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>>183880386
>don't ever actually beat an antag into crit or you might be permabrigged

Yes, this is what the server needs right now, more opportunities for faggots to powertrip as sec.
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>>183880656
>>183880681
>Saronsen

Nuke should just close it. It's been proven that he can't be deadminned no matter how much he griffs as admin.
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>>183880087
>it's okay cause the victim was an antag
But it is.
Act like an antag, get treated like one.
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>>183880702
>set timer for seven minutes
>two minutes left

>you know, actually come to think of it lets add on 5 more minutes
>6 minutes pass
>also, I think you haven't learned your lesson yet
>9 more minutes
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>>183880610
When it sticks, remember to keep a watch on him and dunk him for ban evasion when he starts pulling assistant/cargo "security". Or even going full retard and doing it as HoP/Cap

>>183880656
It's a deflection attempt to cover his ass. He knows if he doesn't slide he's fucked.
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>>183880731
>>183880656
>SARONSEN
FUCK
I DON'T CARE ABOUT SARONSEN
I WANT TIGER DEAD
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>>183880107
>This year has been so fucking good
VGstation is shit though, it's not improving from it's borderline Hippystation state.
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>>183880773
That's literally not what occured.
>Set the timer and read out every single crime
>A minute later remember I forgot "possession of a weapon"
>tell the criminal that
>add 7 minutes to the timer for the crime

Not against the rules to follow security guidelines
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>>183880561
>follow my ebin RP or I'm gonna fuck your round over

You're like some cancerous mix between tg and bay.
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>>183880692
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>>183880737
Killing the guy who's on a mission to kill you even if only for your stuff he wants isn't acting like an antag

>>183880820
It's fully dead. The waifushit started the death just like we fucking said it was. And now we are in this state.
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>>183880087
>and it's okay cause the victim was an antag
Pretty sure being an antag invalidates all ahelps. At least that's what I've always been told.
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>>183880890
It does.
This is PURELY an OOC drama shitfest.
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>>183880925
So...the Chap is the real fag?
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Is this the most active the thread has been in years?

Let's discuss the game and not bans in the thread guys
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>>183880656
>be permavalid obsessed shitty accent gimmicky waifu that was such a shit player they got forum banned
>be a cock ic and ooc
>watch situation that most security officers would just shrug at or engage in
>instead perma the mean chaplain for killing a traitor clown that attempted to murder them, even while cuffed
>know full well perma is out cold and that he will stay there for good despite him being a good boy and coming willingly anyways
>have option to give implants, lower sentence or just rp the situation, still perma
>4 different admins tell me im dumb, ignore them and start shitflinging
>ignore rule 6, throw out metaclub and metagrudge acusations as much as I can
>I am solarious
>I am a good player
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>>183880890
When there's IC evidence of being an antag. You don't get to get away with shitcurity when that status is completely unrelated.
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So you're praying in church and this big, bad motherhonker comes in and whips out a banana sword. What do you do?

Keep in mind he's 6'2 and can fit in a tiny car.
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Just entered the thread... what happened?
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>>183880890
The ahelps are 'invalidated' if the person knew they were an antag. Something something, don't want to reward people lucky with their faggotry.
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>>183880880
Waifus have literally nothing to do in this incident though.
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>>183880890
>>183880925
It doesn't. If someone kills you 4noraisins then you can still ahelp that
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>>183881001
that makes you a bitch
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We TTT now.
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>>183880663
Because Solarious kept arguing they were right and being arrogant about it.
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>>183880970
Disarm and kill him with it

If security comes to arrest the man I withdraw coolly because they are security and I'm not
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>>183881017
>You shouldn't ahelp a griffon if you are an antag!
Nigga what?
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>>183880974
Chaplain kills a cuffed traitor
and then this >>183880656
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>>183881070
Honestly this is what you should always do unless it's an antag whose very existence is a major threat to everyone, like a Ling or Op.
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>>183880974
Everyone's escalating an issue to the solution either meaning that "You will be permabrigged if you kill an antag no matter what the situation is" and "You will be banned if you arrest someone for murder"
The real truth is that you will be permabrigged if you vigilante-style kill a person in brig RIGHT IN FRONT OF OFFICERS.
This also gets the officer banned because they have a grudge against the officer.
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>>183881059
The admins weren't right either?
>durr you're arrogant i ban u
I thought not being underage was a requirement for not only playing, but being admins
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>chaplain comes in on his own and cooperates
>helps the security get rid of the traitor
>the dumb waifushitter literally bullies him by adding sentences and permabrigging him despite him fucking cooperating
maybe if you're so eager to apply space law you should read a bit further into the wiki article and see the
>Modifiers and Special Situations
bracket
>Surrender
>Cooperation with the Prosecution or Security
>Self Defense, more or less
>still perma him
You're a shitter and i'm glad you're sec banned, now you can become a medbay waifushitter with an italian accent for all i care.
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>saronsen has only made 4 bans
>2 were self requested, 1 was ban evasion

what an effective admin we have, sure glad he doesn't just admin to fuck around with all his powers and fails to answer ahelps because he still knows fucking nothing about the game
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CONFIRMED
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>>183881194
He didn't fucking surrender, all he did was NOT RUN. If anything, it should be added on for being so cocky you're not worried about being permabrigged.
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>>183880974
2hotdogs and the rest of the permabanned shitters whipping up the thread with shitposting as usual. Solarious who's griefing constantly as security over trivial matters permas a chaplain for killing the antag clown who hacks into chapel back room to kill him with a banana esword. Admins keep trying to get him to cool the fuck off but he wont. Goes on to keep being shitcurity, turning his sec ban into a permasecban. In classic Solarious fashion he spaghetti's all over thread, discord and forums and now he's in a downward spiral trying to deflect by making a deadmin request for saronsen like if he attacks hard enough the admins will get confused and forget about what he's done.

>>183880994
They helped create this toxic playerbase
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>>183881163
This. It's embarrassing how "playing space law lawyer" is part of the reason when that implies he was trying to justify his actions instead of rolling over and taking it like a bitch.
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>>183881159
>>183881139
wakaran
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>>183881163
>admins werent right either
>rule 6 clearly states that if its valid, its salid

6. The admins have the final say in all ingame matters. If they say it was valid, it's valid. If they say not to do something, don't do it. If a problem arises, take it to the forums after the round's over, or appeal to a higher ranking admin if one's online.

Admins declared the clown salid valid, end of show, they didnt ban him for being arrogant, they banned him for being a idiot and willingly ignoring rule 6 when 4 different admins all invoke it.
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>>183880656
>saronsen
He should have been deadminned a while ago for being a retard
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>>183881159
There's murder for shitty reasons and there's murder for a fucking syndicate clown hacked into my officer and tried to kill me with a banana esword.
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>>183881194
He didn't co-operate at all and even resisted arrest too. Rather than speak to the arresting officer at all they just slammed that motherfucking ahelp button.
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>I withdraw coolly because they are security and I'm not
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>>183881194
Already discussed in the appeal, not a single situation modifier would apply to this arrest.

Read the appeal next time.
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>>183881374
Self defense applies, moron.
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>>183881250
>>183880880
Waifu posting is one of the least drama filled things that go on in these threads though. I purposely start it at times when the thread is acting extremely vile and hateful just to get everyone to relax and change the topic.
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>>183881424
>Self defense applies
very rarely does it allow for murder, doesn't apply when you murder a defenceless stunned man imo.
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>>183881424
>clown is literally braindead when he's killed
>self defense
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>>183881336
>speak to the snowflake waifu frenchfag about your sentence when they are rushing you to perma ASAP

Doesn't matter since, as it shows, if Solarious wouldn't listen to 4 fucking admins telling him to stop, he sure as fuck wasn't going to listen to the chaplain.
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>>183881374
>I said it doesn't count in the thread and it makes it so

Just keep digging your own grave, I can't wait to see pain cleave you a new asshole.
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>>183879267
>everyone hates catbeasts so generally nobody gives a shit about moidah
>even though doing it, by spess law, is a perma-able offense because you're literally just murdering a coworker 4noraisin
Really stuns my baton
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>>183881329
And there's murder of a person who's been taken care of by security for valid salids.
Don't you dare try and tell me a person who was stunned by a taser and is currently being cuffed it not taken care of.
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>>183881514
yeah because if you don't shift-click every nanosecond to check if anyone in your vicinity isn't braindead means you're a shitter
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>that entire monkey round log

Holy shit all the admin abuse he's getting away with, still
>donnager
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>>183881610
>beat a man to death as soon as you see him
>he stands there and does nothing
>he is completely immobile
>he doesn't fight back
>you killed him in self defense
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>>183881336
>detective wanders off and doesn't speak over the radio
>OUUUUUUUUUU WHHAI DID 'OU NOT CO'OM DO MI SOONAIIRRR?
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>>183881510
Self defense clause in space law says so otherwise.
And the clown was dead before the stun even hit. Go hit a monkeyman 7-8 times with a nullrod and see how long he lasts. Those things have the same force as toolboxes. He would have bled out no matter what before reaching medbay.
>>183881514
Can't prove mugumbe knew he was braindead and is not applicable IC
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>>183881503
Congratulations, you helped turn the place into a ghetto. Great work.
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>>183881615
Saronsen is trying to be the new dragonbro.
That admin that everyone likes because they bus a lot but makes absolutely retarded decisions.
>I hate this map
>monkey madness now!
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>>183881676
>had the entire journey to perma
>just ahelped instantly
>had access to active intercoms in perma
>just whined instead
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>>183881674
>whips out esword
>emmags door

>h-h-he was just standing there he din du nuffin
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>>183881706
>knew he was braindead
The clown was STANDING THERE DOING NOTHING and had been for a while
You can't seriously tell me killing someone who is doing literally nothing at all is self-defense
In perma, the Chaplain was the aggressor and the Clown did not fight back.
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>>183881601
Since they aren't dead and staying that way for good, or a brain cake, no. They aren't taken care of. I don't care what you two-faced grandstanding shitposters say, you aren't giving someone a second chance to take you out of the round.
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>>183881770
>had access to intercomms
>power was out

>WHY DO YA GOTTA GO SNITCH MAN
>JUST ROLL OVER AND ACCEPT IT MAN
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>>183881812
So what? He had a weapon drawn and hes the one who invaded the chaplains space.
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>>183881770
Wow, it's almost like efforts up to that point had failed, making admin intervention the only way to stop such blatant shitcurity.

>>183881812
Wow, it's almost like people don't want to leave people who have tried to kill them and are free to do anything to accomplish that live to try again.
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>solarious defence force
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>>183881865
No he didn't he was in fucking perma. There are no weapons in perma.
>inb4 small knife
By that logic a PDA is a weapon.
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>>183881812
>The clown was STANDING THERE DOING NOTHING and had been for a while

You know, other than whipping out a banana sword and hacking with a mag into his office.
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>>183881706
>And the clown was dead before the stun even hit
Except if you literally check the logs you are wrong.
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>>183881884
>blatant shitcurity.
>roleplaying and doing something that is completely authorized under space law is shitcurity
It's the exact opposite of shitcurity you mongoloid.
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>>183881884
There were no efforts, they resisted arrest when the borg came and said nothing when the detective got them.
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>>183881891
What are you talking about
the clown broke into the chaplains office with an emag and banana sword so the chaplain beat him with a null rod
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>>183881890
>Validhunting TTT players out in full force
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>>183881890
>defense force

I would bet my life that it's solarious and two or three of his metabuddies. The walls are closing in.

Forget week of the rope, this is year of the rope.
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>valids defence force
>>
>there has been non-stop shitposting about this ban for 2 hours

This might be more talked about than a shitter like Musk getting permabanned
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>>183881945
And in perma, the Chaplain murdered the Clown with a knife and sliced himself up to frame the Clown.
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>>183881919
SEVEN HITS BEFORE THE STUN AND ONE AT THE SAME TIME. Thats a whopping 120 brute damage and plenty of bleeding. That is as good as dead, sooner rather than later.
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>>183881890
>even big chicken says it's an IC issue even if muh valids were obtained
>LE SOLARIOUS DEFENSE FORCE
inb4 the server owner doesn't AKSHULLY PLAI so it doesn't really count because reasons
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>>183881891
We're talking about the banana sword the clown had when he was trying to murder the Chaplin.

How do you breath?
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>>183881927
>Toeing the line so you can grief to take someone out of the round for a non-issue is roleplaying
>Cherrypick who you'll perma firmly establishing that he does it solely to grief
A server permaban couldn't happen soon enough.
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>>183882017
and then he kept hitting like 4 more times after the stun.

It's still murder no matter when the clown died, the point is the chaplain KILLED A MAN
>>
ERP?

ic issue

Murder?

ic issue

Bombings?

Oh you better believe it's an ic issue.
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>>183882031
Except that's not when the Clown died, the Clown died when the Chaplain murdered him in Perma while he was idle and braindead.
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>>183881997
That doesn't matter because the clown should have been dead and the chaplain should never have been in perma, whats your point?

Oh and Solarious, there was a head of personel, who outranks you and you should have spoke to before reviving the clown and perma-ing the chaplain.
>>
>make space law
>have the times for crimes on it
>times add up to 20+ minutes

do the crime do the time, if you want punishments to match the average TTT round times then lower the times on space law, not "hurr i sec ban you"
>>
>>183881992
Musk didn't desperately samefag on the thread to change public opinion.
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>>183882053
Its murder in SELF DEFENSE for fuck sake why are you so dense? Its not punishable IC
>>183882068
The clown did fucking die, you idiot. Go read the logs.
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>implying anyone would care about this if it want solarious
>>
>someone beats an assassin until they die
>throw them in jail forever

So this.... is the power.... of arepee....
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>>183882137
>get BTFO
>cry samefag
hi tiger
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>>183882137
Is solarious also samefagging as pomf, who showed they sided with them?
This is the deciding factor for whether /vg/station goes the way of TTT
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>>183882213
Hola sawbones
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>>183882053
>Guy coming to kill you fails
>You don't want to help him fucking kill you by giving him more chances
>OY VEY, DIS IS SUM MOIUDAH???

>>183882083
Don't even bother, he only cares about sop and space law when it helps him grief people

>>183882158
Anyone would care about anyone permabrigging someone for killing a syndicate clown with a fucking banana esword. That blatant grief doesn't get overlooked easy and it's not helped by a history of clawing tooth and nail at every stretch to grief people.
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>>183882214
Pomf didn't even read what happened and just said something stupid and then took it back, stop using that excuse.
>>
Just get rid of valids entirely, and ban anyone who hurts an antag.
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>>183882158
I'll side with Solarious if I have to in order to prevent this place becoming nox.
>>
SO

HOL UP

DID ANYONE ACTUALLY READ THE LOGS

ON ANY SIDE
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>>183882275
no, tiger, he said that the people saying murdering antags was never okay (i.e., shitposters) are retarded
>>
Just get rid of security entirely, and ban anyone who tries to administer space law.
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>>183882214
It's not on the same side. There's a gigantic difference between killing a guy who's only a hazard to himself or gets a ban for killbaiting, and a confirmed antagonist who just broke in to kill you.

>>183882297
Yes, it's nox to not let yourself be killed nor give them additional chances to kill you
>>
How to solve this: permaban solarious for doing what they did in the first place to get perma'd
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>wake up
>mugumbe still banned from discord
It's gonna be a good day.
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>>183882337
That really wouldn't be such a bad thing considering security is useless half the time and the other half the time are too busy abusing people to stop syndies
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>>183882297
You are delusional if you think the server has ever been different from it is now. Security has never been allowed to do this.
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>>183882454
post your ckey
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>>183882359
It's nox to valid salid as fast as possible even when security arrives and the perp is in crit.

>>183882480
Not according to pomf
I'm ready for pomf to be /ourguy/ tomorrow
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>>183882359
It's murder to kill a DETAINED PRISONER being processed BY A FUCKING OFFICER

THE CHAPLAIN IS NOT AN OFFICER NOR HE IS A CAPTAIN YOU DUMB CUNT
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>>183882490
post your ckey
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>there are people who play spess purely to play antagonist
>there are people who play spess purely to fight antagonists
>there are people who's only concern is taking other people out of the round
>>
>>183882527
jewsdidremina
>>
>>183882490
Zealotron
>>
>>183882490
mustardtiger
>>
>mustard diving into Saronsen's deadmin request purely to shout at Donnager some more
FUCK OFF.
>>
>>183882480
>Security has never been allowed to do this.
WRONG!
>>183877729
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>>183882457
Except it would cause the game to become TTT, validhunting central.
But that wouldn't be such a bad thing in your eyes, isn't it?
>>
>>183882615
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO DON'T BULLY MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>183882667
Because sec isn't looking for valid excuses to murder and brig?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>/teegee/
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>>183882498
No, nox was 4noraising fighting and terribly escalated murders from situations they provoked. Not killing an antagonist that's broken in to kill you.

Pomf said he perma'd a guy that murdered a wgw reader. There's a huge gap between that and a syndicate agent in your office with a banana sword

>>183882508
>Just let him escape to try and kill you again bro
Maybe I'll give a single solitary fuck when you actually care about use of lethal force and permabrig other sec that carry out unauthorized executions. But you don't because all you do is play sec to grief you faggot. Fucking kill yourself and don't let the door hit your casket on the way out when your sec perma is upped to a server perma.
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>server policy is to ignore my past behavior because I got a fancy new ckey to griff and shitpost under
>>
CAN MRPAIN FUCKING WAKE UP AND APPEAL/DENY THIS SO THE SHITPOSTING STOPS.
>>
>>183882835
>endless shitposting

Just the way I like it

t. mugumbe
>>
CAN POMF WAKE UP AND BE /OURGUY/ LIKE HE ALWAYS DOES
HE IS THE TRUE VOICE OF REASON WHEN WE GOT BAY PLAYERS ON ONE SIDE AND TTT PLAYERS ON THE OTHER
>>
>>183882780
Once again perma is not letting him escape. Also I'm not solarious, and pomf seems to agree with the difference between ooc and ic punishments.
>>
>saronsen deadmin up
>people aren't posting logs of the rounds saronsen has fucked up
shiggy
diggy
doo
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>>183882454
>he actually thinks he's not a shitter
>he believes people actually like him
>>
Right lads:
Permaban:
Solarious, mugumbe
Deadmin:
Saronsen, Zealotron, mustardtiger


/vg/ saved from the current crisis
>>
>>183882979
Every time that's been done, it's been shoved under the carpet by Nuke, so why bother?
>>
>>183883071
This tbqh
>>
>>183883071
what does zealot have to do with this
>>
>>183882903
Permabrig is a sick fucking joke at stopping antags and if you're a wrongfully perma'd nonantag breaking out yourself just nails you with escaping from a life sentence which nobody would blink if sec punched you to death in the middle of medbay for it.

>>183883071
You'd need to permaban zealotron with no appeal ever to make even a drop of change that's still meaningless if you don't have a rat help kill their entire metaclub
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>>183883071
remove mustard desu
or send him clown porn until he goes postal
>>
>>183883073
Because if we all do it together it might work.
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>>183883173
>Admin that does literally nothing but shitpost
>Bans very few shitters
>Admitted to metagaming
>Very suspicious and strong defense of RFultra for the same thing many other Rule 0 banned shitters, did not defend those
And last but not least
>He fucking banned Leonid "A honk to the left" Zurdazhi
>>
>>183883071
This is the real answer
Solarious is being their shitter self
Mugumbe was being a validhunting ass.What he did in the permabrig shows how disgusting of a person they are

Saronsen is a bad admin, Dragonbro 2.0
mustardtiger is an admin who has as many metagrudges as he has metafriends.

>>183883173
Sawbones is the reason for the downward spiral this server's being going through since he first became trialmin.
>>
solarious did nothing wrong
chaplain deserved to be permabrigged
we need to start banning validhunters and shit antags
>>
>>183882903
>Once again perma is not letting him escape.

solarious sure as fuck seems to think so

>Box might be the easiest perma to break out of on all current maps in rotation
>The chaplain was also an antagonist and in perma, perma is very easy to escape and is designed to be escapable.

>let sec handle it! The clown will never escape and you'll be safe
>why you gotta be such a bitch? Escape from perma it's ez bro
>>
>>183883374
>lol perma is just easy to escape bruh

maybe to you, but not for a retard ruski
if you're gonna use metaknowledge so can i
>>
>>183883367
>kill your target who was also on his way to murder you
>v-valid hunter!
>>
Does anyone actually know what validhunter means?

Are you a valid hunter if you kill your target?

Are you a valid hunter if you go for the disk as ops?
>>
>>183883069
pls stop projecting
>>
>>183883367
If he was a validhunting ass he would have lube bukkake'd the flood, dragged off the clown to disappear into maint, cut the head off then spaced it, welderbombed, cooked it, e. It's not validhunting to try and ensure that a confirmed antagonist who's tried to kill you is dead if not out of the round for good

>>183883374
Solarious entire but perma can be escaped from! is stupid in the light that he just uses it as a valids factory to kill wrongfully perma'd people when they break out from the perma they shouldn't fucking be at in the first place
>>
>>183883507
1. Yes
2. Yes
3. Yes
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>>183883595
What would a non-valid hunter do as a double agent.
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>>183883507
Valid hunter is someone who goes out of their way to go get valids.

People mistake killing people who show themselves as traitors with validhunting same as emoting is mistaken to be ultra high rp shit, the thread is mostly shitposting from two sides who want to capitalize on the shitstorm, I sure know I am one but I also know anons know, they just feign ignorance to argue for the sake of shits and giggles.
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>>183883461
>>183883567
>kill the clown in front of a security officer who has taken control of the situation by stunning and handcuffing the person
>not trying to weasel out his valids before it is too late

>FUCKING TRYING TO FRAME THE CLOWN IN PERMA BY ATTACKING HIMSELF AND SAYING IT WAS IN SELF DEFENSE
I don't care what happened in the chapel, what he did in permabrig shows the type of person he is.
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>>183883645
>he doesn't pretend to be from the opposition, posting carefully constructed but inherently flawed arguments only so he can shift sides and dismantle it
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Jesus the amount of samefag kn this thread is abhorrent
Here's a protip so everyone stops responding to bait: mugumbe likes to use the word "griefing" a lot when referring to this incident(as evidenced by their forum posts)
Solarious is anyone that's used an anime image
There, now realize all this "shitposting" has actually just been them two shitting up the thread trying to get the rabble on their side
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>>183883752
>what he did in permabrig shows the type of person he is.

An antagonist trying to kill the double agent before the double agent kills him? The only mistake the chaplain made was not using his fists.
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>>183883752
by that you mean
>mugumbe was already killing the clown and only then did solarious cuff clowntator without stunning mugumbe, rather he just cuffed while someone else was killing him and gave no fucks at the time
>A antag frames someone else as revenge for trying to murder him before, oh no, the horor, someone perma this madman!

Come the fuck on.
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>>183883752
Someone cuffed can still escape in transit. They can still be rescued. They can still escape on their own. You need to dispose of them for good or it'll bite you in the ass sooner or later.
It's his damn job to kill the clown and at that point there was nothing that was going to get him out of there if he didn't do something.

>>183883870
That's me and I'm not mugumbe. I could say you're all 2hotdogs trying to shitstir to get admins deadminned in retaliation as you whip up the thread but that doesn't make it true or carry any weight as an argument.
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Friendly reminder that the only people up are:
1. Those in North America who are NEETs
2. Europeans
3. Australians

I.E. Shitposters
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>>183883915
It's not about what happened anymore. The entire server hates the two of them and now it's just a shitshow for giggles.
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400 posts and 58 posters
why has god abandoned us
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>>183883634
Have fun
Make an interesting experience for everyone

This is very hard to do in practice, but one can try.
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>>183883968
>americuck in denial
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>>183883968
>Have a shitty night job that's a lot of hurry up and wait
T-Thanks....
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>>183883972
>hating mugumbe
For what purpose would you hate him unless you are a solarious defense force member, I never noted him being a shitter anyways.
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>>183883972
I don't hate either of them though :(
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>>183884036
>why hate mugumbe

He's a shitter
He's a shitposter
He's a valid hunter
He's a weak player
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>there are people that don't enjoy relaxing in perma
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>>183884035
>Graveyard janitor shift
>Stay up til 5 AM playing spess
This has been my summer
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>>183883968
NEET master race reporting in
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>>183884092
>He's a weak player

What does that even mean.
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>>183883554
>being this delusional
Fuck off mugumbe
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>>183884196
I don't think I'm winning any popularity contests but desu I don't know why I'm on your radar.
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>>183884092
>shitter
Proofs
>shitposter
My kinda guy, that's a plus
>validhunter
Whats your definition of validhunting anon
>weak player
What does that even mean anon
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>>183884335
You sound weak, what's your ckey
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>>183884252
It's been expressed multiple times that you are a shitter.
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>go into thread
>people posting pretending to be you

I feel uncomfortable. Is this what being raped feels like?
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>>183884385
Gigiekek
>>183884427
It isnt rape if your pupils turn to hearts, ask any lawyer anon.
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>>183884481
>m*rena shitposting for mugumbe
Oh it's just been you all thread, how sad, if you have something to say post it on the forums.
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>>183884408
But I want to be your friend anon.
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>tfw Jean isn't on
i'll be in the mass driver
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>>183884568
Where were you when mustard BTFO solarious?

>"When the suspect enters an area that would be concerned by a Minor Trespass sentence but in a way that causes damage and forces repairs. Hacking doors in a damaging way, breaking down tables and breaking windows clearly fall under this."

>You can't add add up sentences of trespassing and breaking and entering as breaking and entering is trespassing with material damage.

>[07:19:17]SAY: Eloise Chapelle/Donnager (@216,283,1) As Galactic Common : Oh and possession of ah weapon, stun and cuffs.

>He is a scientist, he has access to flashes. You did not have any evidence that he stole the flashes and not picked up from robotics.

>[07:16:41]SAY: Eloise Chapelle/Donnager (@217,284,1) As Galactic Common : Insubordination as you still refuse to do your job even when told by superiors like ze CMO.

>He is a scientist, CMO is not his superior officer. I am not sure why he was expected to work for medbay.

>You let the timer go down to 17 minutes from 20+ something minutes then upped it back to 23, that's when Saronsen decided to gib you. I think it was the right choice considering you got a sec permaban in the same round.

>So it is 13 minutes with b&e, sparking a manhunt and flashing the borg. Not sure why you felt justified to keep him brigged for 30 minutes.
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>>183884743
>it's a mustard can't read logs that have been posted in that same forum episode.

mustard was wrong.
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should mommis be able to repair the AI seeing as they are a part of the station?
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>>183884806
The AI is a being you nig, dont interact.
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>Solarious confirmed unable to tell the difference between a WGW reader baiting people to kill them and a confirmed antag coming at you with a banana sword
Is this it? Will the PAIN TRAIN give retardious a server perma?

>>183884806
AI's a being.
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>>183884743
It's a real laugh and a half this happened around the same time he permabriggu'd the chaplain.

>I changed!

Remember kids, once a shitter always a shitter. Whine about Pain and how harsh he is but without him this place would be hippie.
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are you lads hyped for when nuke crashes the saronsen thread with no survivors
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>>183883071
What about meetmeindorms?
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>>183885010
They're a fag and I think their lolopinions are stupid but that's no reason for it.
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>>183884979
are you ready for pomf to side with solarious and for mustardtiger to quit on the spot
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Isn't Brapposter that obnoxious Hippie retard who does nothing but play as an obnoxious black sterotype obsessed with drugs and RAY-CISM
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>>183885010
redeemable
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>>183885061
Yes.
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>mustardtiger saying chemists are actually scientists

wtf i hate reading comprehension now
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Why would you jobban a man, before throwing him out of a server?
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>>183885198
PAIN?
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>>183885198
To draw his metafriends out of the woodwork
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>>183885198
Link the forum thread I can't find it and need my sweet drama balids
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>>183885157
>If you scroll to the start of the logs it lists him as a sci join
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>>183885198
wiseguy huh? at least you can talk. What's you ckey?
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>>183885341
logs also show a job change to chemist
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>>183885341
>who then got a job change, thus no longer being a scientist
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>>183885374
>>183885380
>I don't look at logs regularly
When an issue comes up and you check them, that's what you immediately go to. not a couple lines buried in 20 minutes of following ckey searches
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>>183885198
THE DEADMIN REQUEST I JUST FILED TO THE FORUM LISTS ME, MY METAFRIENDS, AND DR. TIGER HERE, BUT ONLY ONE OF YOU
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>>183885157
>mustard thinks he's still a scientist because he kept his scientist clothes on after a job change
what the fuck is this guy doing as admin
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>>183884957
But we are hippie
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>>183885489
FIRST ONE TO SHITPOST GET'S TO STAY ON MY SERVER
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Guys, my metabuddy just got permabanned, what do I do?
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How does someone so desperate end up an admin?
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>headmin appeal
>mustardtiger just takes over again

top meme tbqhwyrnf
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what log file has adminhelps?
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HoNk
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>>183885498
>have scientist id with extra access
>not a scientist anymore
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sweetie I'm an admin so what I say is always right even if I'm clearly wrong, m'kay?
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Honky Wonky does a honk to the ban page!
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>>183885669
You've outed yourself as one of the thread shitposters Solarious. If you fire shots at mustard, he's gonna fire back you retard.
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>>183885712
>You can be permabrigged for not letting someone kill you
Whew lad
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>>183885669

Where was Mustard with all of these posts in the original ban appeal LOL
What a fucking retard.
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>>183885540
More like you kids fight it out in the thunderdome fist to fist. Winner walks a free man, loser going to perma ville
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>>183885819
>you can be permabrigged for unlawful murder
Whaw led
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>>183885821
Mustard didn't even know what rule 6 was until a thread shitposter said it and he copied it to pretend he had it in mind all along
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>>183885821
He's panicking because the head chikun posted that Mustard was in the wrong and he's going full defence mode
aka he's doing more retarded shit like he has the last few days
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If I pull of that VPN, will you die?
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>>183885893
>Perma is equivalent to murder as they both take you out of the round
>Not letting yourself be killed is a reason to take someone out of the round
>You also don't equally enforce it when your fellow sec shit all over it killing incapacitated antags
You play to grief and you should be tossed out on your ass for good
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>>183885678
The standard day log and the admin log.
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>>183886068
>Perma is equivalent to murder
Oh greyshitter if only you know
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who /shitpostingferventlytogetsolariousbannedbutstillwantsadminreformation/ here?
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Why did Mustard come back?
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>>183886225
The only person the shitposting is getting to is mustard and his butt buddies but the rage it's inducing in the discord with them, whew
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>>183886225
If you want admin reformation then root for solarious, they'll get banned later with their shitty attitude.
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>>183886324
I just checked the discord and yeah
>morena shitposting and giving mustard advice on how to reply
Morena also said some things in discord that are quoted word for word in the thread here. Permabanned players shitposting in the thread about things that don't involve them or a server they can play on.
>>
Mm nootka
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>>183886545
Almost like that applies to Solarious who never should have been unbanned in the first place and has used his freedom to grief people. Really makes you think....
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>>183886545
>things that didn't happen
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Solarious, considering your history of being complete cancer maybe you should have done the deadmin request as admin feedback instead, nobody will take your demands seriously this way around

t. neutral party
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>>183886780
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>>183886839
Nuke pls you can't keep bailing out your fucknugget forever
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>>183886878
NUKE IS THE MAN WHO NUKES ARGUMENTS AGAINST HIS FUCCBOIS.

NUKE'EM NUKLEAR!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XmDYJBZZdc
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MORENA AND MUGUMBE ARE METABUDDIES

TURN ON CNN
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>>183886965
>implying nuke has been able to nuke'em since he fucked up banning 'the meta discord' and Sawbones & Xevonix are admins
>>
TURN ON THE BAN PAGE, MUGUMBE'S BEEN PERMA'D FOR AHELPING. PAIN TRAIN STRIKES AGAIN
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>>183886878
Literally a nobody, this really harkens back to last time though
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>>183887048
>Sawbones banned for hosting meta discord
>But now he's an admin
>Dragonbro 'self requested' deadmin after long history fighting
>Nuke 'gives up' head of trialmin and ceases control
>Sawbones shitting on Pain openly in the forums, Pain no where to be seen for three days on 'errands'

Sawbones is going to take control of this server
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>>183887264
please dog no
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>>183887264
DEADMIN IMMEDIATELY
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>tfw I miss the introduction of a new map AGAIN
fuck
>>
worst event ever
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>>183887410
Nothing's going to stop him so get used to it.
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>>183887628
It's so good I vote for it every time even if I can't play the next round
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>>183887264
>this is actually possible

Stay strong Pain, shit is going down if you leave.
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#rejectsawbones
>>
>join
>check crew manifest
>Jean isn't playing
>leave
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>>183887264
>Sawbones is going to take control of this server

What is the problem with this?
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>>183888769
Shitter
Metafriennds
Metagames
Busted for metacomms
Drama shitter
Metagrudges like a motherfuckers taking every opportunity to chip away at them

He's a sociopath
>>
The best way to spot a shitter is by their distinct hatred of sawbones
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So is solarious gonna kill himself?
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>>183889414
hopefully desu
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>>183885010
Makes dumb busses then blames the crew for the bus being shit.
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Why was solarious ever unbanned they have started their forum shittery yet again
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what even happened this round.
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>>183889649
It's the second chance meme.
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>>183889649
MrPain allowed it.
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>>183889783
nothing
fucking nothing
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>>183864270
>A.I
I want you to leave. Begone, and never return. God I hate you so fucking much.
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>>183889797
>>183889794
second chance proven
he failed desu
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>>183889783
Nothing happened
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>>183889856
That's for Pain to decide ultimately
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>>183889825
>>183889890
lame. all i remember is a bartender who couldn't talk and a janitor on fire trying to kill himself.
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>Self-requested perma janitor jobban. Feel free to appeal this.
The hell is this?
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Reminder that murder is one of the most serious offenses and that you WILL go to perma for it.
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>>183890368
They were trying to cover their ass after they nuked a hallway with a molotov
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>>183890379
Reminder that antagonists aren't protected under space law so you can kill them without penalty.
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I regret killing the vampire so fast honestly. I got so bored I passed out in the chapel until round end.
Im just going to assume I missed absolutely nothing.

Also please remodel the chapel office. The morgue tray is super inconvenient, the coffin placement sucks, the layout is just not conductive to actually using it. The confessional space is a wasted space that could help give enough room to work in if used more wisely.

needs more relics like metastation, give me a new gimmick to play with please
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>>183880471
Dude, it's murder to kill someone outside of self-defense situations. If you found out someone is evil, either you commit murder with a very strong contestable motive or tell the security. Either way, don't get upset OOC.
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>>183891251
That's why when I'm sec (or anything, really) I try to give antags some space to operate. If you kill them instantly, you may end up with 3 hours extended. But if you put them in perma and don't check on them for the next 30 minutes because there's this important report you need to finish, they may find a way out and interesting stuff might happen.
>>
Threadly reminder that admins make the rules and not some shitty wiki article that literally has "this is just a guideline not set in stone rules" in the first paragraph.
>>
http://ss13.moe/forum/viewtopic.php?f=18&p=20839#p20839
CLUSTER IS ON A WARPATH
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>>183891769
Threadly reminder that nobody admins the admins. and if they do nobody admins the admin's admins.
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Clusterfuck coming in with the inconvenient truth.
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>>183891931
>>183891772
HOLEEE SHEEEIT CLUSTER JUST DESTROYED SAWBONES
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>>183891880
>what are headmins
>what is pomf
>>
the war on metaclub has been sparked
>>
>solarious appeal APPROVED

PTTTHHHHH

MUGUMBE BTFO
MUSTARD BTFO


YESSSSSSSSSSSSSS
>>
sawbones for headmin.
>>
THE ABSOLUTE MADMAN DID IT
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>>183892170
>it's real

YES
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>>183892170
dont see it, mind linking it?
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>>183892170
>>183892360
IT'S NOT REAL
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>>183892447
>>183892468
fuck off mugumbe
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>>183890379
being able to drink soup out of your helmet ingame when
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>>183892468
Link
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>>183892447
>>183892170
He's lying
His shitposting just shifted up a few gears
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>>183892528
fuck off sawbones
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>>183892170
Solarius, I'm trying to watch that RFultra drama going on right now and don't want to miss it, could you please stop your infantile "I'm right and everyone else is wrong" shit for the moment?
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>>183892727
fuck off mugumbe
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>Making the disposal room a plasmafire as nonantag
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>silly engineer thinks a flamethrower will work on me
>little does he know
>IT ONLY STRENGTHENS MY RESOLVE
BIG FLAMING S E N T I N EL
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reminder that the real metagame of ss13 is the community.

All these discord/metaclub/attentionwhore/namefaggots are all metagamers by extension.

ban them all.
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>>183892956
enjoy your deadpop
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>>183893008
I will.
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>539 posts
>only 2 unique posters, solarious and mugumbe shitposting at each other
>cluster single handedly dismantling the metaclub in the shadows
>mustard and nuke threaten to deadmin each other over thread shitposting
This is the future you chose
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Reminder that knowing anything about the game beforehand is metagaming.

Reminder that killing anyone at any point is validhunting.

Reminder that anyone that disagrees with you is really your metagrudge samefagging.
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>>183892925
IT WAS SO USELESS
I DIDN'T KNOW

And hey, you paniced when I first shot that thing at you.
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Things that should get you banned from the server

>discord metaclub shitters
>macros
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#rejectsawbones
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>>183893175
>macros
>having to type out your simple and frequent every time with a 45 wpm typing speed
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>>183893175
There is nothing wrong with macros you make with the byond client.
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>>183893335
people have made a one button macro for screaming out the person that is attacking them and yelling the location all in one button push. Fuck off macro shitters this isnt a competitive game, go play league.
>>
I want to kiss Avada!
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>>183893431
>people have made a one button macro for screaming out the person that is attacking them and yelling the location all in one button push.
Tell me how you can actually do that
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>>183893431
How do you do this exactly?
Just asking so I don't accidentally make one
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>>183893524
PM from Chastitymin: Don't log out, we need to talk.
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>>183893431
You'd have to make a new macro for each location AFAIK since there's no "area name" tag you're allowed to use
I've also never heard of or seen a "person who last attacked you" tag and I severely doubt it exists.
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>>183893537
>>183893543
>>183893579
Im not going to tell anyone exactly what I saw because I dont want any other shitters using it sucking the fun from antags. But an anon posted it in a thread a while ago showing it working on the test server, Im surprised no one remembers.
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>>183893690
So it never happened
Gotcha
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>>183893543
Say "HELP {lastassailant} ATTACKING ME IN {loc.name}"
don't tell anyone
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>>183893690
Does you dad work for byond too?
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>>183893726
You can pass variable names in macros?
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>>183893726
I hope this doesn't work.
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>>183893718
>>183893767
Im actually glad no one believes me. Fuck SS13 esport players.
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>>183893726
Going to try this on the test serb now
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>>183893726
DON'T DO THIS IT MAKES MUSTARD GAS
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>>183893726
it's LAssailant dumbass
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>>183893773
Of course not. Almost all of those are supposed to not be visible at any point (reagents datum comes to mind)
>>
The only problem I have with the whole saronsen mess is referring to me as a validbot, when I was under specific asimov orders to kill it, after establishing that it was both a danger to humans, and had previously assaulted a human.
>>
How do you make macros for *ping, *buzz and others? I wanna be able to span pings as MoMMI more efficiently
>>
sawbones for headmin
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>>183894750
never
>>
>>183894663
Right-click title bar. From there you can figure it out.
>>
Thank god I live in Europe so I don't have to play with sawbones
>>
>>183882098
>>183880656
>ITT: people who refuse to accept that the admins provide the highest IC ruling instance as per global rule 6, and not some wiki article anyone can edit

Seriously, just permaban saronsen already, he proved he can't accept admin authority over his own interpretation, and how does he deal with it? He wants to deadmin a guy who literally did his job settling an IC rule issue. Because if you're disagreeing with him, you have a metagrude.
Holy shit.
>>
>>183895786
>Seriously, just permaban saronsen already

I agree lol
>>
>>183895786
>>183895927
> just permaban saronsen already
Shit, I meant solarius
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>>183895786
>settling an IC rule issue
>by straight gibbing the person
sure i suppose
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>>183895786
>saronsen decides to shit all over the round with a fucking shit bus
>monkey player gets caught
>saronsen rejuvenates him multiple times
>gets cuffed, a borg is brought to translate the monkey's speech
>saronsen: fucking validbot!!
>uncuffs the monkey
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>>183895786
>some wiki article anyone can edit
weren't space law and the rules page locked to prevent specifically this from happening
>>
>>183896768
Yes
>>
>>183896768
Who was the one guy who edited the space law because he lost an argument over it?
>>
>>183896462
If you're so shit as security that you get a permajobban from it THE SAME ROUND for a different incident, I think you deserve the gibbing.
>>
Why do i
>>
>>183897227
cry, why do I cry why
>>
>>183897227
Why do i keep spawning with a missing leg and unable to move at all?
I've made sure several times that i have all limbs normal
>>
>>183896901
ayloshathesaint
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>>183896901
>>183897371
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>>183897453
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>>183896662
No, validbot was after the monkey escaped and the orders were given to terminate it.
>>
>http://ss13.moe/forum/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=3867&start=10
Cluster, slavery has been abolished for a while, you cant own a nigga like that
>>
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>>183860539
>Tfw when a guy stumbles in asking for a healing med and i give him a chloral hydrate pill instead
>>
>>183898059
Sawbones really picked the wrong person to stand up for and try to hold the other admins more accountable. Should have stood up for Palpatin or someone who was actually banned for a long period who he has no connection with. Even if it's not true, this just comes across as Sawbones defending his metafriend. Especially for a 3 day ban, it's kind of lame.
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>>183898380
>name chloral pills bicardine
>color them red
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>>183898059
>2your post is irrelevant to the topic at hand"

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>>183860539
>thread made midnight July 26th
>12 hours later
>600 posts
>70 unique posters
i wondar y
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>>183898059
>post deleted
the metaclub strikes again
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>even sawbones is turning on saronsen in the deadmin request

is he finished?
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>>183898059
>sawbones selectively declaring a post as irrelevant when his shit gets called out.
lmao does he have no self awareness to all the peanut gallery bullshit he posts on the regular?

step it up my man.
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>>183899408
don't worry, cluster shut him down pretty hard
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>>183899586
Cluster made a reply saying that if his reply was irrelevant, so was Sawbones reply
Sawbones deleted it
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reminder that the "sawbones for headmin" isn't just baseless memes, but pre-desensitization. Like how the illuminati uses film to help the headless populace come to accept their pre-designed future.

Do you not remember when before Sawbones became an admin, there was a "sawbones for admin" post in the thread literally every single day?

Wake up people, the salt directed at our headmin isn't the voice of the community, but the voice of the metaclub masquerading as the community to help you accept their coming future as inevitable.
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>>183899958
If Sawbones ever became headmin I would honestly be done with this server.
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Sawbones for headmin
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>>183899701
archived
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>>183900510
it has nothing to do with the ban appeal though
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>>183900505
>getting attacked
>suddendly begin shit talking pain

you're a disgrace zealotron

>>183900590
people shitpost in appeals all the time and no one cares, just look at niggly
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>>183900647
perhaps we should change that, in hopes of not derailing the conversation
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>>183900590
>t. Sawbones
It has though, because it sheds a light on your motivation to defend this player and subsequently attack saronsen
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>>183900724
We did, Pain made a rules no one relevant to the topic at hand was allowed to post.
Everyone got really mad at him and got him to take it back and let the shitposters in the threads.
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>>183900752
What does him attacking saronsen have to do with anything? Doesn't that just mean he's holding admins accountable for their actions?
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>>183900590
>>183900505
>>183900105
Learn better damage control.
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>>183878141
This isn't hard
>Is it a traitor, op, rev or cultist
Yes
>Are they subdued
No
>You can kill/valid them if they are a threat
>Is it a traitor, op, rev, cultist
Yes
>Has sec arrested them and currently handling the situation
Yes
>Don't fucking kill them, they're legally being tried and murdering them without them being deemed worthy of execution is murder
>Are they a ling, wizard, or vamp aka extremely powerful paranormal threats without a safe means of capture
Yes?
>Fucking kill them holyshit
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>>183900052
This. I'd suck it up and move to bay or someshit.
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>gets btfo by nuke on the appeal thread
>changes subject

xd
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>>183901218
honestly this should be screencapped and posted every thread. With a less shit image or no image.
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>>183901264
>>183900052
>replying to a bad copypasta shitpost.
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>>183901392
when did nuke btfo somebody?
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>>183901392
>nuke posts offtopic bullshit trying to make the appeal about sawbones and move attention away from his and pains unfair bans
>sawbones doesn't take the bait
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>>183901218
Now, here is the trick thing anon, yknow the clown? It has gotten itself hit about 6 or 7 times with a null rod and THEN it was cuffed, then hit a few more times for good measure.

The clown was already dead when it was cuffed and only hit twice more afterwards after it tried and failed to kill the chap, so by your thing, the perma is absolute bullshit.

Good to know.
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I need help. I wanted to try becoming a spessman but for that I need to register on the byond website. It's resisting me. I keep getting this message on all of my computers:

>>Due to the volume of spammers, proxies cannot be used >>for account signup. Please contact us at >>byond.com/support if you have any questions.

I am not using a proxy. What is this gay shit. Anybody else had this problem before? I just wanted to go into space damn it.
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>>183901653
Now here's the thing, it's hard to lie when logs exist.
*10 null rod attacks before this*
[05:19:24]ATTACK: <font color='red'>Jacob Mugumble(mugumbe) attacked Honky Wonky(leonidzurnadzhi) with null rod. (INTENT: HELP) (DAMTYE: BRUTE)</font>
[05:19:27]ATTACK: Eloise Chapelle (donnager) fired the taser gun (proj:electrode) at Honky Wonky (leonidzurnadzhi) (294,253,1)
[05:19:27]ATTACK: <font color='red'>Donnager/(Eloise Chapelle) shot Leonid Zurnadzhi/(Honky Wonky) with a /obj/item/projectile/energy/electrode</font>
[05:19:30]ATTACK: Eloise Chapelle (donnager) fired the taser gun (proj:electrode) at Honky Wonky (leonidzurnadzhi) (294,253,1)
[05:19:30]ATTACK: <font color='red'>Donnager/(Eloise Chapelle) shot Leonid Zurnadzhi/(Honky Wonky) with a /obj/item/projectile/energy/electrode</font>
[05:19:32]ATTACK: <font color='red'>Jacob Mugumble(mugumbe) attacked Honky Wonky(leonidzurnadzhi) with null rod. (INTENT: HELP) (DAMTYE: BRUTE)</font>
[05:19:33]ATTACK: <font color='red'>Jacob Mugumble(mugumbe) attacked Honky Wonky(leonidzurnadzhi) with null rod. (INTENT: HELP) (DAMTYE: BRUTE)</font>
[05:19:33]ATTACK: Eloise Chapelle (donnager) Attempted to restrain Honky Wonky (leonidzurnadzhi) with the handcuffs.
[05:19:34]ATTACK: <font color='red'>Jacob Mugumble(mugumbe) attacked Honky Wonky(leonidzurnadzhi) with null rod. (INTENT: HELP) (DAMTYE: BRUTE)</font>
*1 null rod attack here removed for character limit of 2000*
[05:19:36]ATTACK: <font color='red'>Jacob Mugumble(mugumbe) attacked Honky Wonky(leonidzurnadzhi) with null rod. (INTENT: HELP) (DAMTYE: BRUTE)</font>
[05:19:36]ATTACK: Eloise Chapelle (donnager) has restrained Honky Wonky (leonidzurnadzhi) with the handcuffs
[05:19:37]ATTACK: <font color='red'>Jacob Mugumble(mugumbe) attacked Honky Wonky(leonidzurnadzhi) with null rod. (INTENT: HELP) (DAMTYE: BRUTE)</font>
[05:20:09]EMOTE: Honky Wonky/Leonid Zurnadzhi (@298,252,1): <B>Honky Wonky</B> seizes up and falls limp, his eyes dead and lifeless...
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>>183901979
but these logs prove his point?
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>>183902126
>The clown was already dead when it was cuffed
Disproves his point. It proves he was hit before cuffed, but it shows plenty of hits after the stun of the clown.
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>>183902219
and?
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>>183902219
So a stun counts as proper detainment now?
Back to school, officer Chapelle.
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>>183902442
>guy says clown was dead before he was cuffed
*post logs to disprove*
>but it proves his point?
*tell him it disproves it*
>and?

>>183902534
Technically he died after the cuffs were put on too. Stun makes him no longer armed and dangerous.
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>>183901979
I call going above 100 damage to be dead since its crit and a traitor, anyways, so we get 11 null rods, 1 taser shot, 2 more nulls and the a cuff.

So, 13 null rods, 13*15 is 195 damage since null rods do 15 brute, so he was already near the brink of death, only then does the cuffs happen and I don't see logs indicating solarious actually stopping the chaplain, so what Im seeing is a non verbal permission to beat the stuffing out of the clown because if he really though it was bad to do it, he would have stunned the chap too if he though he was doing something bad, or atleast said something for him to stop.

You are proving my point that he was in crit already as 10 null rods are 150 brute, he was out cold, thats just about dead yet not ghosted.
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>>183891616
Please consider the rounds of the people they fucking kill when they escape

>>183893090
Cluster's problem is that it's not his metaclub, not that there is a metaclub. It's old drama at this point

>>183902219
psssst. The null rod does 15 brute. Even if you missed a lot, that's a good way to get the murderer to go fuck himself
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>>183902637
and?
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>>183901653
If the clown was in critical and dying and the chaplain didnt do anything further and THEN the clown died of injuries, that's on sec. He's in their custody, their problem and their decision to revive or not.
If the clown was in critical and dying the chaplain finished him off after going into sec custody, then it should be up to sec to decide if it was excessive force and murder, but basically the chaplains fault he couldn't show restraint.
If the clown was dead when sec captured him then it should be seen as self defense and the chaplain should be let go unless a head feels otherwise.
In this situation I still think a full permanent sentence is bullshit regardless and should have been worked out ic to involve a 5 minute time in the brig to explain why the chaplain should tie down his murder boner better.
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>>183902637
>Stun makes him no longer armed and dangerous.
You're moving the goalposts here, plenty of people get away after they are stunned.
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>>183901397
too lazy to add images or sprites
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>>183902668
Why in the everloving FUCK would solarious stun or otherwise stop the chaplain when the chaplain is handing him arrest valids on a plate.It's the same reason he put the clown in perma with the chaplain then goes all gee whoopsie the chaplains so terrible he killed the antag clown who tried to kill him earlier once they were trapped in perma together teehee~
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>>183902719
Clown was already in crit and with horrific bleeds by the time he was tased. Nothing short of a field medkit could have stabilized them. I dunno if pulls are shown in hrefs but I have no doubt they just dragged the clown around regardless which would have mulched him anyway
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>>183902782
You're immature as fuck. There's zero benefit to allowing your confirmed antag attacker to live to try again if they aren't retarded. Meanwhile it serves no purpose to permabrig a guy who just didn't want to be dead in space for an hour other than to grief. Really makes you thing why Solarious should be allowed to play here at all.
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IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO ADD

POST IT TO THE FORUMS OR YOUR COMMENTS WILL BE DISREGARDED AS BASELESS SHITPOSTING BY A BANNED PLAYER
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>>183903195
comments removed because irrelevant peanut gallery.
:^)
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>>183903195
I thought Solarius' ban appeal was locked?
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>>183903095
If you permabrig him and he escaped you get the chance to click his sprite until it's horizontal again though, isn't that what you validhunters love the most?
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>>183903396
>Not wanting to be removed from the round makes you a validhunter now
Whew lad
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>>183903396
>implying mugambe was a validhunter and not a guy desperately trying to save his own ass
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>>183903639
>mugumbe
>not showing validhunting behavior

>>183903689
>sure let me just beat this cuffed prisoner

sad!
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>>183903689
>beating a guy thats in crit to death is saving your own ass
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>>183902843
Because the schadenfreude is too delicious when you can reck someone's round.
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>>183903639
>>183903689
>an officer has tazed someone and is handcuffing them to take them away
>it's fine for someone to attack the detained person and kill them
Think about this like a real person for a moment.
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>>183903967
Everyone here is alpha males who would do that instead of I don't know, actually running to "save their own ass", didn't you know? ;^)
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>huge black guy walks towards you with a baseball bat
>police officer is standing on the street corner hanging out

do you
1: smack the black guy to death with a baton you carry at all times
2: run if he swings for you and hope the officer rushes over
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>>183903743
>it's valid hunting to prevent an attempt on your life
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>>183903967
He was already in crit and was going to die without a hefty dex+, bicard, and a locker/chair before the electrode even hit
The confirmed antagonist who has decided they want to kill you for whatever reason can't kill you if they're dead
There is no benefit at all to leaving them alive
There's no benefit to permaing the chaplain other than to grief. It's not the det the clown wants to kill

You're a griefing faggot solarious and you can't get perma'd soon enough. I hope when pain sees how hard you reach for every minute
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>>183904317
for the 20th time not only the killer was cuffed, he was also unconscious in crit.
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>>183904317
It's valid hunting to smash someone with a null rod 4 times while they're being cuffed to kill them.
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>>183904312
>real life
>2d atmospherics simulation

it doesn't really apply
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>It's a forum drama episode again
Every few months its the same shit. Someone gets banned, some group thinks it's unjust because it was applied under subjective rules, while another group tries to uphold them, then it's "deadmin he", "unban he", "haha look at my poetic reply rekt lmao" for like a month until either the admins get rotated AGAIN, or the player is forcibly removed.

Why the hell is this community so toxic?
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>Someone tries to murder you
>start kicking his shit in

>officer decides to call a time out

>person you beat succumbs to injuries
>go to prison forever

Ah yes
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>>183902958
Well, sec doesnt have medhuds and handled the situation kinda poorly. Not much else to be said there. I'm just trying to clarify a concept that people apparently weren't getting for future cases.
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>Minding my own business in medbay
>Suddenly the airlocks get emagged open and a guy with the caps laser takes aim at me
>He shoots me into red zone before he slips on a puddle of water
>I take his laser and starts emptying into him
>After three shots an electrode comes off-screen and hits the traitor
>I stop shooting because now he is incapable of harming me as have the good boys in red told me and if I dare shoot once more I will be perma-brigged for murder
>Traitor activates his explosive implant killing me and ZASing my head under a pile of rubble
>I am never cloned
God bless, this is truly how everyone should act
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>>183904312
are you a mime in real life dude, seems like you're mute

>>183904542
>being enough of a schizo to keep beating a restrained perso

as dangerous as the killer desu
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>somebody walks towards you with a weapon but doesn't even get close to you and try to use it
>they stop dead looking at a wall holding it
>you beat the shit out of them as they stand still and take it
>a police officer runs over, stuns and cuffs the guy with a weapon
>you stomp his head until he dies

>complain when the officer considers you a murderer
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>>183904542
from what I heard its more like running up to someone an officer has in cuffs and beating them to death before security can do its job
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>>183904373
There's also no benefit to finishing the guy off unless you're hellbent on powergay. If sec has the situation under their control and they're no longer a threat, let sec handle it. It's their goddamn job.
I get that you don't want to be taken out of the round yourself, but why can't you trust sec do the job they're supposed to do?
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>>183904427
>>183904462
>let your killer live to hunt for you another day because enemies of the corporation have rights too
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Damn if this is over a 3 day ban I'd hate to see a perma
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>>183904598
Not only that but he stands by and lets the chaplain keep at it solely for the purpose of being able to pull hurr you murdered I'm permabrigging you despite that it was a confirmed syndicate agent with a fucking banana esword emagging into the chaplains fucking office

I'll clarify this fucking concept to you faggot. It's not your ass on the line if they get loose. Fucking kill yourself and see how it feels when shitcurity's mishandling gets you put out of the round
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>>183904312
C. Not be racist, ignore him, and go about my day.
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>>183904542
>person you beat succumbs to injuries
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>this fucking shitposting about the same ban starts again.

This entire thread has been discussing it, can you all just stop? Everything to say has been said, if you have something original to say post it to the forums so the admins read it. I'd hate for MrPain12 to have to read this fucking thread for "evidence"
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>>183904628
you know e-implant would trigger after his death anyway?
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>>183904870
Good job ignoring context retard.
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>>183904870
>>183904907
seems like this all could have been avoided if the server wasnt plagued with extreme valid shitters
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>>183904920
>implying the people shitposting in the thread right now play the game
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>>183904832
This is because of a sec jobban

RFultra and Sawbones are the ones who stirred shit because of a 3 day ban
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>STOP TALKING ONLY I GET TO BITCH

Please pain the anticipation is killing me.
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>>183904993
>get corrected by someone on thread
>"thread people dont know how to play!"

weak
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>>183904769
BECAUSE IF HE'S DEAD AND STAYS THAT WAY HOPEFULLY CAKED OR OTHERWISE GONE FOR GOOD IS EVEN BETTER THERE IS NO THREAT. IT'S DONE. IT'S RESOLVED

IF YOU FUCKERS LOSE HIM ON THE WAY, I MAY DIE BECAUSE YOU'RE FUCKING IDIOTS HELLBENT ON GRIEFING INSTEAD OF PROTECTING THE CREW. IF HE'S NOT AN IDIOT AND KNOWS HOW TO TRIVIALLY ESCAPE PERMA I MAY DIE BECAUSE YOU'RE FUCKING IDIOTS. IT'S MY ROUND ON THE LINE, NOT YOURS. FUCKING KILL YOURSELF IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.

>>183904870
>Let the chaplain keep beating on him as you bumblefuck around
>Whoops you dun moidah'd this guy it's time to get muh perma balids XDDD
How badly Solarious reaches to secure more toe the line grief is disgusting
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>>183905384
AWAKEN MY PAIN
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>>183905182
Every time a greytider frees a prisoner this guy pops a vein
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>>183905384
AWAKEN, MY PAIN!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3kdyR2deJM&feature=youtu.be&t=54s

Up that toe the line griefer's sec ban to a server perma. He never should have been unbanned in the first place.
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>>183904857
Calm down cham, rounds long over, proper people are aware now, getting pissed off like a 8 year old only makes you look like an asshole.
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>>183904769
>If sec has the situation under their control and they're no longer a threat, let sec handle it. It's their goddamn job.
So you're putting your own shitty RP over another people's round and go as far as to actively destroy it in revenge by putting him in perma, yes?
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>told to do something by four(4) admins
>refuse for 40 minutes
>accuse admins of metafriending
>get a week ban
>continue to refuse
>get a job permaban
>scream, whine, and wail on the discord, the thread, ooc, and the forums
>file salty deadmin requests
>samefag for a straight day
>turn the thread into a massive shitfest for the sake of waifu permavalids

The next time one of you chucklefucks whine about pain or other hardass admins not giving second chances, I want you to remember all of this.
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>>183905490
>tfw I've focused on shotgunning, decapitating, and aciding the greytider's head over the perp
>tfw all his salty ahelps
>tfw admins told him to get fucked
God bless

>>183905583
>Oh shit they know I'm doing it to solely to grief. SHUT IT DOWN!!!
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>>183905613
>told to do something by four(4) admins
>the admins should have told det to give him 10 mins for manslaughter
>instead LOLBANNED
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>>183905613
Screencapping this post right now
I want it to retroactively apply to RFultra too.
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>>183905613
>same fag
>everyone that disagrees is one person
Every
Time
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>wait until the Chaplin nearly kills the clown
>say stop at the last minute
>perma two for the price of one

Ez pz valids
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>>183905779
>The protegè of your future headmin, Sawbones

Look at this anon and laugh
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>>183905182
>BECAUSE IF HE'S DEAD AND STAYS THAT WAY HOPEFULLY CAKED OR OTHERWISE GONE FOR GOOD IS EVEN BETTER THERE IS NO THREAT. IT'S DONE. IT'S RESOLVED
Confirmed for powergay.
>IF YOU FUCKERS LOSE HIM ON THE WAY, I MAY DIE BECAUSE YOU'RE FUCKING IDIOTS HELLBENT ON GRIEFING INSTEAD OF PROTECTING THE CREW.
Because a dude in crit can just get up and run away if the guy dragging him gets slipped.
>IF HE'S NOT AN IDIOT AND KNOWS HOW TO TRIVIALLY ESCAPE PERMA I MAY DIE BECAUSE YOU'RE FUCKING IDIOTS.
Personally I wouldn't perma him. I'd hand him over to the roboticist and let him get borg'd. Unless the AI is subverted (which in a vaccum you really have no way of knowing) he's no longer a threat and will definitely not get his greentext. It also keeps him in the round and able to do stuff, and possibly even gets an often-understaffed sec team some help.
>IT'S MY ROUND ON THE LINE, NOT YOURS.
SS13 doesn't revolve around you.
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>>183905771
>why didn't the admins bend to MY wishes?????
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>>183905779
N-no RFultra is my friend and waifu
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>>183905771
>repeatedly told not to brig the chaplain by admins
>continues to argue about space law
>be told to release him or be jobbanned otherwise
>instead of releasing him grasp at straws about him killing the BRAINDEAD CONFIRMED TRAITOR in perma
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>>183905919
You're implying Donnager is a fucking genius that knows how to manipulate all situations to get the max sentence.

They're an idiot anon, not a grand master schemer like you guys think.
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>>183905919
>see two killers
>perma them both

I agree

>>183905995
>literally in space law
>suddendly not an IC issue anymore
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>max research
>gift security with some weapons and medbay with some cool stuff as well
>go to toxins, make a quite big bomb
>service the borgs when roboticist isn't around
>i did all that and xenobio hasn't been touched by anyone, and no artifacts from xenoarch
>despite there being more scientists than just me
still was fun
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>Singuloose and plasmaflood
>Minimize Casualties: Success!
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>>183906075
>literally in space law
Rule 6, faggot. Space law doesn't mean shit if all online admins COLLECTIVELY decide otherwise.
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>>183906179
It doesn't count as a kill if you didn't kill them with your own hands :^)
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>RD died in spessmart like a little bitch
pathetic
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>>183905613
Permabans should be PERMANENT BANS. If you can just make a new ckey and yuk away your shittery it takes the gravitas out of the ban.

Future permabans need to be for life. Period, end of discussion. If you're such an insufferable pile of garbage that you actually manage to stand out amongst the rest of the garbage here you're unsavable.
>>
What, no vampire killed me that round. Bugged greentext.
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>>183906165
>xenoarch and xenobio
>expecting people to do the most autistic jobs on the station
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>>183906308
you don'r have to be killed by antag, you just need to die in general
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>>183906284
Sure, but if this applies to Solarious, also to all the previously permabanned shitters, especially those who happened to get admin, like Zealotron and Xevonix to name a few.

It won't happen.
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>>183906387
Then where the fuck are they?
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>>183905771
What fucking purpose does 10 fucking minutes in the brig for not wanting to get taken out of the round serve other than to grief a guy and not get away with it? Solarious is just plain toxic.

>>183905919
>Put the guy who was killed by the guy he attempted to kill in perma with him
>OH MAN IT'S SO CUHRAZEE YOU'D NEVER GUESS WHAT HAPPENED GUYS. HE KILLED HIM! THE ABSOLUTE MADMAN!

>>183905987
So is being a law stickler that perma's someone for not wanting to be killed and spaced

You're saying if they have a situation under control then let sec handle it. Every day there's dozens of examples where that's proven wrong. Hell, simply a freedom implant, lube, and any weapon is enough to massacre the entire team. If the antag's dead and preferably decapitated he's incapable of doing jack fucking shit and can fuck the hell off for all I care.

And no part of that justifies that I should die and have my round ruined because of you incompetent fucklechucks when the shittag can be put down like a sick dog. Antags that don't like that can stick to gimmicks that don't take people out of the round. Fax for an away mission or laser tag if your untreated ADD is flaring up.
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>>183906284
>permabanned by headmin Sawbones for looking at one of their meatclubbers the wrong way
>no option to appeal at all
Truly the most horrific of all timelines
>>
what happened to the RD last round?
felt good running that power tripper off the station
>>
How can I get admins to pay the fuck attention to unban request?
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>>183906559
It serves a little of RP that this server is supposed to have instead of space TTT.
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>>183906284
the server uses permabans for a lot of mechanical stuff like "we're banning you indefinitely until you post an explanation on the forums" too though, which actually serves a good purpose

Sometimes someone joins SS13 without really understanding it, forcing them to explain their welderbombing can be more useful to creating a good, contributing player than just handing them a 3-day or whatever.
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>>183906647
he tried to steal from spessmart and got rekt by secborgs there
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>>183906482
They are busy blowing up the station
pro tip: If someone from your department runs off within 10 minutes, never to be seen again, it's probably an antag
>>
Daily reminder that you have no idea a vampire will actually kill you by sucking your blood out.

A succ lasts 30 seconds tops, but murder is a lifetime.
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>>183906657
post boipuss in the appeal
>>
I think some of the people ITT care more about the ban than Donnager or Mustardtiger do.

You've been shitposting for hours and it doesn't matter because MrPain will only consider the forum posts.
>>
>>183906165
The only thing non-antag xenobio does that isn't done better elsewhere is sepia and adamantium cores. For xenoarch it's fucking nothing.

>>183906284
Moving ckeys gets your bans and notes mirrored. It's mostly for when people, deservedly so, hate the everloving shit out of your ckey. In this case, Solarious' campaign of faggotry left of a lot of asshurt after his quest to be an asshole failed ending up in his permaban
>>
>>183906748
how are they busy blowing up the station if i'm the one who made the quite good mix and it hasn't been touched
science is so fucking boring when you're done with everything,
and when you're not done it's boring but at least you're occupied
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>>183906828
I'm sitting at work unable to play spess because 4000ms, got nothing better to do than argue.
>>
>>183906720
You don't get a legitimate permaban for setting off a welder bomb one time. It's either a distinct pattern of shittery or something so outrageously shitty that it calls for nothing short of a perma.
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>avads getting angry at people
>for power tripping
>same gagging in the thread

B-but my smokes, m-muh rights are being infringed.
>>
>>183906697
Right. Well I'm going to roleplay that I'm an NT opposed revolutionary that hates shitcurity taking his chance to remove kebab by turning your brain into a cake and sending it to centcomms HR dept with a note asking for a detective who isn't a griefing faggot. Remember, it's okay to grief if it's "roleplay"
>>
>>183906765
>not murdering someone after blood draining them

Good way to get validhunted
>>
>>183906970
Yes you do if you log off without talking to an admin, you get a perma that says "We'll remove this once you explain yourself on the forums"
>>
>>183906935
Shit dude are you me?
>>
>>183906765
>Sucking a guys blood the other day.
>Gonna thrall him, heal him up and turn him loose to just be himself after
>Nope, went catatonic
Ow
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To go even further, do THIS for me /vg/station.

NAME ONE

JUST ONE

NAME ONE FORMALLY, TRULY PERMABANNED PLAYER

WHO HAS NOT REMAINED A SHITTER AFTER RETURNING

You can't.
>>
>>183907153
me.
>>
nothing wrong with making sawbones the headmin

only man to stand up to pain
>>
>>183907153
Zealotron ;^)
>>
>>183907153
Sawbones shaped up to be a pretty good administration to be honest with you.
>>
>>183907043
I guess I didn't elaborate well enough. I'm talking about permabans that arn't put in there because the person logged off. Rather, ones with an appeal limit of at least 3 months.
>>
>>183907153
NAME ONE
JUST ONE
NAME ONE PLAYER WHO ISN'T A SHITTER

You can't.
>>
>>183907204
>>183907235
>>183907276
>>183907282

AND THE SIDF COMES OUT OF THE WOOD WORKS LIKE CLOCK WORK
>>
>>183907204
>>183907276
>>183907282
Still waiting
>>
>>183907235
It's not standing up to pain if it's eroding his position in preparation for a coup
>>
>>183907282
>Sawbones shaped up to be a pretty good administration to be honest with you.
No he didn't, shut the fuck up.
>>
>tfw new thread in 20 posts
>tfw all this shitposting will finally end

It can't come soon enough
>>
>>183907329
Probe1
>>
>>183907329
Razz

He's the best player.
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>>183907418
>shitposting
>end
>>
>>183907418
Where do you think you are? It's going to last the entirety of the appeal and 2-3 days past
>>
Why is everyone missing that RFultras ban was a Rule 7 ban and has very little to do with the deadmin request and the round that the deadmin request was part of?
The ban was for their greytiding behaviour, which Pain was informed hadn't changed a bit since they 1. Became an admin and 2. Returned from their break.
They already had warnings over this and were on a "last chance basis" via their notes. They needed to shape up, and even after becoming an admin and finding out what admins have to deal with, they didn't change in the slightest.
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>>183907430
>>183907471
I said "not a shitter"
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>>183907051
Maybe, stay strong my dude.
>>
Reminder that whoever makes the new thread gets the most important say in the OP.
>>
Next thread I'm going to waifupost so fucking hard all you drama posting shitposters won't be able to keep up. Actual game discussion > WFU >>>DRAMA
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>>183907597
Thanks. We needed to hear us say that.
>>
>>183907575
Sawbones' metaclub tactic of ignoring Pain's words and being very vocal. just like libtards
>>
>>183907590
Name one thing wrong with razz
>>
>>183907590
Name one thing wrong with Probe1
>>
AVADA

I LOVE YOU AVADA
>>
>>183907418
its only the beginning my friend
>>
The shitposting will die the moment nuke gets off his fat, lazy ass and shits on the shitters.
>>
>>183907920
>>183907920
>>183907920

NEW THREAD
NEW THREAD
>>
>>183907794
Ignores polls

>>183907738
Is a literal who
>>
>>183907932
>shitposting
>die
no.
>>
>>183907575

could have fooled me given that it wasn't prompted until they made a deadmin request and was a part of the deadmin request final verdict.
>>
>>183878469
okay
>>
>>183906987
No, it's being a faggot. At least put some effort into your strawmen.
>>
>>183910052
Eat ice cream and be a happy chicken pomf.
If you want to be apart of this forumdrama shitstorm, post on the forum. Posting in the thread is just going to stir up more crap without actually helping anything.
>>
>>183910052
Hope you slept well chicken
>>
>>183914447
I'd love to but ice cream is quickly looking like it wont be a reality for a long time. I wanted to try shipping ice cream to people but its extremely expensive.
Locations around me that are somewhat food ready are too expensive or in a shitty area
>>183915087
It was a decent slep with an interesting dream
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