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Waiting for mommy's milk/good cards edition

>Latest News
New Card(s) being shown daily for Knights of the Frozen Throne

>Deck lists, news etc
hearthstonetopdecks.com
hearthpwn.com
hsreplay.com (Buy Premium For Us)
http://thelightforge.com/TierList (Arena)
vicioussyndicate.com

>Open Tournaments
https://strivewire.com/
http://play.eslgaming.com/hearthstone/
http://zotac-cup.com

Old thread: >>183792380
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First for Unraveler is an ok card, don't be a baby.
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how does that 3-drop legendary work
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>he purchased cards before they were officially released
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>>183825806
you obtain it in a pack, then you go to your collection and find it, and then you right click it and dust it
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I don't understand how so many people think they know what's great for the game because they've spent an hour thinking about it. Did you know their developers spend 8+ hours and 5 days a week thinking about the game?

They do all kinds of alpha, beta and even potential patches to the game all the time and test it internally. Do you honestly think they've never thought about "discover a card in your hand and discard it" ?

Do you honestly think they didn't try replacements for blade flurry?

The current state of the game is intentional, it's not accidental. They aren't printing more silverback patriarchs here, they're printing interesting cards and we haven't seen the rest of the set. Reddit is so unbelievably wrong about cards each expansion mostly because they didn't try it yet in a world where all the other cards are around to support it. Blizzard does test everything they can to make sure it's a good mechanic. Maybe they're not always 100% right but they do a damn good job of trying

Not only are the developers seasoned veterans, legend players and professionals, but they're obviously passionate about making games or else they wouldn't have fought to get a job at blizzard at all.
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>>183825402
This

It's not auto include like loatheb but it's still a good card.

People want every card to be broken to shit.
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>Paladin Mastery
>49/50
Everytime!
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>>183824473
adorable OP post
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>>183825806
Turn 10
Malygos + Innervate + Moonfire x2 = 25 dmg.
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>>183826535
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>>183826484
>He can't afford to
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I really hope the Warlock DK won't be about discard memes.

At best, discard memes will just be another boring way to rush face and create a zoo. Like, who gives a shit about that?
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>mfw thinkign of Ben hurting
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>>183826535
I-I'm sorry Blizzard...I'm sorry!
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>I lose the early game by putting more value cards in my deck
>mage just yoggs value
Epic
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>>183826621
*forgot to add the Prince lego.
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>>183826535
This

4chan understands that we need to wait and see how all the cards in the set interact before making decisions. This is why we beat Reddit at any and all tournaments. I am proud to say I am 4chan.

>>183826573
I must admit I do the next game where I play 1 Paladin card than concede and shut this game off.
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>>183826928
>I am proud to say I am 4chan.
kek
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>>183826730
yes.

the wheels on an airplane are mostly irrelevant. lift comes from pressure differences over the wings, and thrust from the propellers.
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>>183826902
Portals can't move.
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>>183826902
A

There's zero momentum given to the cube, unless the portal itself creates momentum independently, in which case the moving platform is irrelevant to the effect.
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>>183827171
They can, though.
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>>183826748
>I act in only the way I perceive people are treating me at any given time

>>183826928
screencapped!
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>>183826535
New pasta?

>>183826747
I just want to warlock DK after I play jaraxxus to see if anything happens, other than that im sure it will be shit
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>>183824473

That pic actually made me laugh out loud. Good sh it.
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>>183827358
They can't. The engine can't handle it. The one scene in Portal 2 was scripted as fuck. Any attempt to push an item through a moving portal crashes the game or fucks up the physics completely.
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which one? rogue?
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Fuck mage
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>>183827874
No, don't select the best arena class
wining is overrated
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Eloise best girl haHAA
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> no undead tribal

one fucking job
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>>183828189
Stop pushing ridiculous tribals, this isn't YGO!
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>>183826534
>Dusting any legendaries after the pack opening changes
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New card
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>>183828016
what the fuck are you even saying? im a noob that never play arena which is why im asking if rogue is good or not.
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>>183826535
Nice post but what about arena "micro" adjustments?
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>>183826592
>>183827610
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>>183828514
what does it say
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So basically, expansions set in northrend are just gonna be full of shit cards?
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>>183828514
Death rattle: If it's your opponents turn, gain 6 armor
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I started playing hearthstone today. Do you guys recommend spending the time to research cards and consider potential decks I could run into or should I just play matches with the default set and learn about cards as I run into them?
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>>183828665
play cunnyverse instead
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>>183826730
depends
if relative to the air the plane moves, it will take off
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>>183828665
run while you still can
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>>183828514
"4 mana 4/3 Deathrattle if this dies on your opponent turn gain 6 armor"
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>>183828523
Regardless you think you would be able to pick up on the sarcasm

>>183828665
Stop playing it's too late for you to start
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>>183828514
This is the kinda card Warrior needed in Arena.
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Place your bet!
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>>183828514

If it dies on the opponents turn, gain 6 armour. Seems decent; aggressive midrange minion
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>>183828723
Why?
>>183828763
Why?
>>183828843
Why?
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>>183828950
Knuckles
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>>183828158
why is she in slutwear
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>>183828950
WELCOME TO GADEGETWEBZACAZN
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>>183828950
m i l h o u s e
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>>183828514
That's actually good
If your opponent trades, you gain armor and you can attack only face so it doesn't dies in your turn
Finally a playable card?
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>>183828746
>>183827125
It won't, idiots.
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>>183829025
This game is really shit, it's just a skinner box like all blizz games
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>>183828514
Uma delicia.
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>>183826902
B. You have to think... How fast is the cube moving relative to the portal? The answer is very fast.
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>>183829025
Do whatever the fuck you please, just know that you need to spend a lot of time and/or money to be able to play fun decks and win games, by which point you've spent to much time and money to ever be able to quit.
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These cards are bad and suck balls
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>>183829167
>>183829280
>>183829283
>>183828950
dammit
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>>183827460
What would happen? You turn into Jaraxxus. I don't get it.
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>>183829350
Nice argument, child.

https://aviation.stackexchange.com/questions/21404/can-planes-take-off-from-a-treadmill
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>>183829283
>>183829756
>makes spells free
close
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>>183829320
>>183828514

>Passes vanilla stat test
>V. Positive deathrattle that buffs your health total
>Aggressively statted

Blizz is really pushing warrior as an aggressive "Go face with minions, control board with weapons and spells, use armour so you don't die in the meanwhile" archetype
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>>183828665
Like others said, abandon this game like the plague. It's nothing but a rage-filled money sink.

But otherwise, watch Kripparian videos to learn the game.
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>>183828654
>>183828786
Wow, finally a card that's okay.
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AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA ANOTHER TRASH CARD
THIS IS GONNA BE WORSE THAN TGT
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>>183829978
Extra armor doesn't help aggro warrior.
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>Normally really hyped about the spoiler season
>They made us wait weeks and then spoiled like 5 cards
>Kill all my hype

I wanted to get like 10 cards today, 1 from each class and a neutral or two, but we just got some shitty ones.
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>>183829025
Game sucks. Only good for casual play but you need to invest 100s if you want to be competitive even in casual.

>>183829778
newnig pls go
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>the 3 last Warlock legendaries are pushing an archtype that will never work unless broken and that no one likes

Thanks Ben.
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>>183829675
OK thanks for explaining. So if I were to play casually without spending money I would be significantly disadvantaged?
I was under the impression that this game was really popular among normalfags so I assumed the barrier to entry would be quite low.

Is >>183828723 the same in that regard?
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>>183829893
It's a paradox
Such treadmill wouldn't exist
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Fuck Ben Brode
Fuck this shitty expansion
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>>183830205
Yes it does, getting extra armor off of a 4/3 (which is aggressively stated) does a lot to win the aggro mirror.
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The rest of the cards better be amazing to make up for this fucking trash
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>>183830468
t. CD Projekt Red
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>>183830205

It does in fast matchups, where the opponent is also trying to bash your head in.

In theory anyway, doesnt really come into play that often because nobody is faster than aggro warrior

But this would help in matchups like say, vs hunter where you have to aggressively beat down every threat he plays with his face.

It might be more supportive of a slightly slower, midrange-y kind of warrior where 6 armour is important.

Also obviously helps against burn decks because mages will have to remove it, and any damage they sink into it is burn they're losing PLUS Giving you armour
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>>183826928
>he unironically agreed
>he literally doesnt know its pasta

T O P K E K
O
P
K
E
K
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>>183828514
This card is a pretty meme, probably can be an okay card.
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Is this dare I say it the worst hearthstone expansion ever ?
before you say "b-but they only revealed 10 cards so far!"
Every single card revealed so far has been absolute fucking trash that will never see constructed play and that has never happened before, in every expansion before now a few cards atleast were good, but now ? every card is trash
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>>183830543
>>183830606

>playing aggro

haha, who cares, do you guys actually do that? What are you, 12?
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>>183830405
Shadowverse is ecchi: the game. Other than that I have no idea what it's like.
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>Play nu-loatheb
>Copy with 3/3 prince
>Spells now cost 4 extra, if your opponent is behind that is an absolute BITCH to remove
>Next turn copy with herald volazj
>Spells cost 8 extra
>Control deck/burn deck is now completely locked out of the game

I fucking love lockdown/prison decks in mtg I definitely wanna see if I can get these to work, even if it is a very niche matchup
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>>183830405
>Is >>183828723 the same in that regard?
no, sv is really generous with starting players to the point you can already have a competitive deck on the first day
however make sure you reroll just in case
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>>183830908
If you somehow got it to work blizz would nerf it for being "uninteractive"
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>>183828158
A bug eyed asian, gross
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>>183830908
At least someone is trying to theory craft in this thread
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>>183830582
t. faggot blizzard fanboy brodecucck

slit your own wrists
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>>183830908
that combo costs 9 mana
9 fucking mana
by that point your opponent probably has some minions on board
its only good against stuff like freeze mage which is like 10% of players
are you gonna lose 90% of your games so you can occasionally combo down a freeze mage ?
shit will be worthless
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>>183830753

Warrior is now (and was always intended to be) an aggro class. Its the Red deck of hearthstone. Thats why they picked Garrosh and not varian or some other "protective" warrior to rep the class.

Any warrior cards should be discussed in the context of aggro/tempo
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>he made a purchase before the official release of the product
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imagine sitting on reddit and /hsg/ all day JUST to defend and priase brode/team5. I'd honestly rather kill myself
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>>183830749
It's scary since they have usually revealed the most interesting/good cards first.
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>>183831101
I thought that was hunter? Considering their hero power is the most 'red' hero power in the game.
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>>183830968
But yet and still they still allow mages to iceblock and alex
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>>183831061
(you)
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>>183831081

Thats why its a tech deck. Or a win condition combo against control decks.

Id use it if I know my opponent was playing a spell focused deck. Or if its the control mirror where you're in that mexican standoff where nobody is playing minions because you dont wanna lose resources, then you use the combo to lock em out
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blizzard shills on overtime tonight, its sad that they spend so much money and time on social manipulation tactics rather than i dunno, making an actual half-decent game.
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>>183830749
Both the warrior cards revealed are pretty good
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>>183831401
What was the other one?
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You don't build decks around nerubian. You either play it on curve or you save it when you have a board and your opponent doesn't forcing them into bad spots. Best case scenario you use it to do things like prevent pyroblast lethal or rogue combos.

On curve people can't just plop down auctioneer and start drawing.
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>>183824473
I'LL PLAY IT IN MY STANDARD RENO DECK LOL HAHAHAHAHAHHA
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>>183831263

Hunter is more like black red or green red; whichever is more appropriate Im not sure. Considering their style was designed as "Fight for board with oppressive minions, inch in damage as you go, use hero power to finish opponent off"

Technically hunter has an infinite amount of burn thanks to steady shot, all you have to do is not lose control of the board so you don't die first.
So you focus on shit like hyena buffs, strong deathrattles popping out tokens, houndmaster etc.


Warrior is mono red, with its specific laser guided hard removal and charge minions
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>>183831510
4 mana 2/2 weapon
batttlecry and deathrattle: deal 1 damage to all minions
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>>183831401
The weapon is a worse deaths bite and the minion im sorry dude but its absolute fucking garbage
its an agressively statted minion that dies to most 2 drops and dies to frostbolt/flametongue
The armor is fucking irrelevant
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should I play Hearthstone tonight?
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>>183831651
being a poor man's death's bite isn't bad when death's bite was incredible. Following it up after war axe is pretty much killing any hopes aggro have of beating warrior
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>>183831270
brodecucck ran out of responses
the same shit every day
just stop replying to me and embarassing yourself.
fuck off back to r*ddit if you want to circlejerk and do nothing but praise blizzard and suck brodes dick.
I'd honestly rather you just jumped out of a window, though.
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>>183831892
t. Todd Howard
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>>183826535
Warsong Commander was apparently one of the most hotly-debated, and internally tested cards they have had to change. This was the result
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>>183831651

>Mage uses frostbolt t3 to kill it
>Destroys their tempo, effectively grants you 9 life, passes initiative back to you

>Shaman using flametongue
>Shaman having board control against a warrior in the first few turns
>Anyone having board control against warrior in the first few turns

Lol
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>Getting paid to praise Team 5 all day

Life is fucking sweet man.
Don't forget to preorder Knights of the Frozen Throne, out some time in mid-August! You even get a COOL exclusive cardback and at least one GUARANTEED Legendary in your first 10 packs!!
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>>183824473
That Unraveler is going straight to my handbuff paladin
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>A LEGENDARY CONDITIONAL WORSE FACELESS MANIPULATOR
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>>183832034
>Shaman having board control against a warrior in the first few turns
i hope you're not saying they cant?
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Paladin should get a weapon that lets you kill minions and ignore their deathrattle. Needs more thematic purge-evil control spells/weapons.
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>>183832353
Who are you even complaining about. As fun as it is to whine about shilling, KFT is being pretty widely criticized, even among bigger names.
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>>183831619
Oh yeah, it seems very ok
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>>183831892
>I'm gonna get so many responses when I use all these cool slurs I learned on the internet
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>>183832550
.
I don't understand how so many people think they know what's great for the game because they've spent an hour thinking about it. Did you know their developers spend 8+ hours and 5 days a week thinking about the game?

They do all kinds of alpha, beta and even potential patches to the game all the time and test it internally. Do you honestly think they've never thought about "discover a card in your hand and discard it" ?

Do you honestly think they didn't try replacements for blade flurry?

The current state of the game is intentional, it's not accidental. They aren't printing more silverback patriarchs here, they're printing interesting cards and we haven't seen the rest of the set. Reddit is so unbelievably wrong about cards each expansion mostly because they didn't try it yet in a world where all the other cards are around to support it. Blizzard does test everything they can to make sure it's a good mechanic. Maybe they're not always 100% right but they do a damn good job of trying

Not only are the developers seasoned veterans, legend players and professionals, but they're obviously passionate about making games or else they wouldn't have fought to get a job at blizzard at all.
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>>183832498
meh
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>>183832480

What play line of shaman vs aggro warrior allows shaman to take control of the board in the first few turns? Against shit like n'zoths first m8, fiery war axe, etc.
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>>183832835
>the same pasta less than 100 posts later
literally kill yourself
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Join the better game hearthbabs. August update is going to be lit
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>>183832781
blizz shills in overdrive
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>>183832498
>it's a worse expansion than tgt episode
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>>183832835
>pasta is a team 5 conspiracy
ah, ok
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>>183832993
>I'm gonna get so many responses when I use all these cool slurs I learned on the internet
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>"Hey crew, players are complaining about freeze mage a lot because it's anti-fun to play against solitaire decks, what solutions do you have?"
>"We could move Alex and Ice Block to the Hall of Fame"
>"Hmmm...maybe..."
>What about creating secret removal cards that aren't total trash when you play a class without secrets and more anti-spell cards similar to Loatheb?"
>"Possibly..."
>"What about creating freeze shaman so less people will bitch about freeze mage since they will be bitching about freeze shaman instead?"
>"HAHAHAHAHAHA BRILLIANT PROMOTE THAT MAN RIGHT NOW HAHAHAHAHAHAHA"
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>>183826535
This is from reddit
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tfw shills killed /hsg/
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>>183833120
are you joking? this card is fucking broken
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>these cards
>best one so far is a nerfed Death's Bite

is it time to abandon hope lads?
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>>183833253

I miss her
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>>183832353
I feel sorry for anybody that did preorder.
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>>183833253
>muh hall of fame
Who doesn't play wild these days.
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>>183831081
>are you gonna lose 90% of your games so you can occasionally combo down a freeze mage ?
Yes? Fuck Jaina and Katgar. Medivh isn't my type.
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>>183833692
the vast majority of the playerbase for arena, constructed and the competitive scene
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>>183833786
>Katgar
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>>183833830
>competitive scene
Kek
>constructed
But that includes wild ladder as well
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>>183833593
Broken, ehhh probably not. It's definitely pretty good though since it's a 4/3 that is worse for your opponent to trade into.

Playing it into a 3/2 feels a lot less bad when you get a ride along shield block -- I definitely think this will see some play.
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>>183833253
Blizzard is retarded.
they said that they don't like current freeze mage but they also said they don't want to kill control mage decks

how can you achieve both?
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>>183833658

Warlock lego is good, the warlock hero card is gonna create some way to retrieve discarded cards, so you dont care if you discard blood queen. Then when she keeps coming back and lifestealing for large amounts to keep you alive long enough for lakarri sacrifice to pay off.

The last time blizzard pushed this hard to make a class relevant through a class mechanic was shamans with overload when we got tunnel trogg, totem golem and 4mana 7/7
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>>183831263
Surprisingly they designed hunter as a control-ish class where the hero power is a tool of attrition.
Who would have thought that an extremely aggressive hero power would be best used in aggressive decks while a defensive hero power would be best used in defensive decks.
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>>183833912
compare it to kindly grandmother it's a card that does repetitive damage that you really dont want to trade into.
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>>183833946

Mage is the poster child for the game and they dont want it to be weak, and ice block is the back bone of any good mage deck.

Nothing can be done unless ice block gets HoF'd
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>>183833894
nobody cares about wild you condescending, bumbling retard
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>>183833859
Yeah, fucked that one up really hard. I don't even know how I managed to do it.
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>>183834190
Only new players care about standard
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How is the witcher card game? does it have a specific platform or is it just some indie developers? And regards to Eternal, the devs seems to be extremely charitable to their players giving one premium card per day if you complete the quests, and is not an rgn madness as Hearthstone, I think Eternal has potential if more people pick it up.
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>>183834274
everyone who doesn't have naxx cares about standard
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>>183834169

There is a way to keep ice block in standard - convert it to legendary and ban it from spawning in all discover/add a random card or spell effects. That way you get one and only one each game, which would be fine.
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>>183834169
Secret Mage doesn't run Ice Block and it's probably the best mage deck right now.
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>>183834214

Now I want a kitkatgar bar
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>>183834323
Thats what I said, new players
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>>183834363
I was actually eating a KitKat so that might explain it.

>>183834404
Naxx rotated out over a year ago.
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>>183834347

>Secret mage is the best mage deck rn

Cant hold a candle to control mage. Too reliant on good draws
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>>183834169
>ice block is the back bone of any good mage deck.
except for the tier 1 deck(s) that mage has had in every single expansion without iceblock
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Reno mage is where the fun is at
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>>183834616
fuck yourself and die
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>pre
Fill out the blank
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>>183834075
I want control hunter to be a thing, I love the idea of a sort of 'kiting' playstyle but it's basically always worse than other control decks.
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>>183834959
existing conditions
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>>183834959
Heating?
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>>183834960

They have been pushing the control hunter meme forever. Only way it could ever work is if they introduce alternate hero powers and allow you to choose a different hero power before the game starts instead of forcing you to waste a card and mana to change your hero power.
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>>183834315

Gwent (the witcher game) on PC and console; they haven't added account sharing yet though. It's pretty different from magic/hearthstone clones and way more generous in terms of packs (kegs) and dust (scraps). There's way less rng and when you lose you can usually remember the exact place where you fucked up at. I'd say it's a better game than hearthstone but it's not quite as polished yet
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>>183834959
>>pre
determined outcome
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>>183834959

Pre-fapping
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>>183834959
vious expansion was better
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>>183830108
>complains the game is a rage-filled monkey sink
>recommends Kripp

ok
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>>183835259
just proving his point
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>Give everyone legendaries in their first 10 packs
>Fill the set with garbage legendaries so you have to buy more

BRAVO NOLAN
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>>183834959
pre-buying dust
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>she pre-ordered
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>>183830405
> I assumed the barrier to entry would be quite low.
It's one of the worst online CCGs to get into. I can only afford F2P because I've been playing since Naxx
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>>183831198
>not instantly filled with blinding rage like a frothing mongoloid after 10 cards are shown
>must be a Blizzshill

Why do you care so much haha it's just a game bro :^)
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>>183835487
>Write a movie 2001-alike that pretends to be scientifically acurate
>Fails miserably with a plot that can't stand up but the scores from retarded non-physicists critics say it's good so it doesn't matter

BRAVO BEN
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>>183834959
cum
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>>183835487

B-but how will we enable fun new playstyles we always try to unsuccessfully push without incredibly niche cards nobody will ever use flooding the legendary pool?
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>>183832034
Token Druid and Shaman counter Pirate Warrior because they gain board control early...
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>>183835553
I just did. Loatheb hype!
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>>183832932
turn 1 blood sail cultist turn 2 jade claws
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Why is it hard as fuck to rank up when the season ends? I literally got legend in the first 10 days the previous month and now i cant go to 5
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>>183834347
>>183834347
Secret is good but Freeze is better if you're good

It honestly doesn't need Ice.Block to exist and would open up for more early defensive tools if it were gone
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>>183836204

easier to rank up at end of season
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>>183836417
it is?
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>>183836204
it's way easier now that that shitty rogue card is nerfed.
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Are Token Druid and Freeze Mage the only meta decks that weren't forzed into existence by blizzard?
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Redpill me on Poke TCG
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>>183826484
Honestly, why is this a bad thing? Even TGT had some usable cards in it. This expansion will have some usable cards in it as well. It's always better to just buy 50 packs rather than craft every single card in the expansion. Crafting commons and rares is stupid. This is why I instant pre-order every single expansion released. There is literally no reason not to preorder if you care at all about having competitive decks. You will always need some packs to avoid crafting too much commons/rares.
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>>183836725
freeze mage was forced into existence since the dawn of hearthstone
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>>183836752
The game was GOAT, I played through it like 5 times when I was a child.
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this guy has more than 30k posts and is one of the most aggressive Blizzard shills on the General Forums.

which one of you is it?
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>>183837010
me
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>>183837010

Blizzshill confirmed extreme pedo
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>>183837010
cheese is like 70% of the caloric value of pizza, the guy must be morbidly obese
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>>183837010
mind posting context
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>>183836752
If you put a double colorless energy between two of any basic energy you can't use an attack that requires 2 color energy and 2 of any color
it blows
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>>183837327
OP was complaining that 21% of his opponents were Jade Druid.

In comes Con to defend Blizzard's matchmaking system and call OP's deck tracker stats irrelevant and meaningless.
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>>183837472
Oh. What a fucking cunt.
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>Kibler claims that Warlock lego is great
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>>183837676
Kibler also spends most of his time playing meme decks at 4 digit legend ranks.
He even started queuing up quest warlock to spite all the people saying he was wrong.
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>>183835661
>hurr durr only 10 cards
>unironically reciting this new forced leddit meme
this is hype season family, the individual releases are meant to build excitement and get your preorder confirmed before they dump all the filler trash on facebook in one go
this expansion is going to be a spectacular failure
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how do we fix Rogue bros
I wanna play this slut
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>>183837940
Rumor has it there's a secret deck called 'Miracle Rogue', someone on the EU server got rank 1 legend with it

retard
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>>183837940
>those scars on her ass
what was she doing?
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wrong thread my b
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>>183838118
no need to call me a retard anon
I have feelings too
I just want a non miracle rogue deck fa_m
I cant play miracle rogue I always end up never drawing auctioneer

>>183838294
She fell through a chair after having rough sex with anduin on it and he whipped her buttocks
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>>183837472
At least he isn't Mand
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>>183837940
valeera is best waifu
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Who else doesn't even play the game anymore but eagerly awaits every new card announced?
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>>183826747
it's going to be something like "whenever you discard a minion, summon it instead"

it's probably a 10 mana card and you won't get to turn 10 alive with shit discard decks, even if you did you might just discard it before you can play it

fucking discard man
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>>183838453
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>>183838440
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>>183826747

>warlock main in WoW for over a decade
>Brode rapes my favorite class with shitty suicide and discard meme archetypes in Hearthstone
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>>183829893
That's because the propeller is pulling it, so the wheels just spin twice as fast and it moves the direction the propeller pulls it! If the plane had to get airborne from a treadmill in the original picture, it could not, because it would move forward and hit the bars. If the plane was powered by its wheels, and staying in place on the treadmill, it would not take off.
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>>183838774
>Who else doesn't even play the game anymore
me

>but eagerly awaits every new card announced
not me
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>>183838774
>eagerly
was nearly with you senpai
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>>183839093
>enjoyed playing demonlock
>enjoyed palying handlock
>enjoyed playing zoolock
All is lost.
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>>183836752
from what I recall it's more centered around having a single 'hero' pokemon out front that could be swapped out for certain other pokemon on your bench that you draw, similar to the battles in the video game. Elemental weaknesses, pokemon evolving, shit like that.

Known for horrible and blatant powercreep through the years. If you wanted the worst example of powercreep possible in a TCG, you got it. It's solely to sell more cards.
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>>183839171
Then why even browse the general?
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>>183832458
How is it worse? It comes out for 2 less mana. If you're pulling off some batshit combo, like the Maly+Innervate+Prince+Moonfire+Moonfire, you can't do that with faceless. You'd need another innervate.

If you think it's worse because it doesn't copy the statline, consider that most of the time when you're pulling this dumb meme shit you're concerned with the effect. Saying it's strictly worse is kind of short sighted. I look forward to what streamers come up with.

That being said, I don't think it will see a lot of play due to the restriction. Faceless doesn't either anymore, anyway.
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>>183839280
Because Hearthstone used to be a good game that I enjoyed playing, and I used to look forward to booting it up every day to play my favorite decks, but it just gets worse every expansion and I cannot find the inner strength to just walk away and be done with it.

So I'm here. Every day. Shitposting and instigating with other anons who just want to play their game in peace.

I didn't ask for this, I didn't ask for any of this.

God grant us the serenity to accept the things we cannot change, the courage to change the things we can, and the wisdom to know the difference.
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>>183824473
>dat Nerubian Unraveler
MY BROTHER
COME JOIN TALDARAM AND I FOR GLORIOUS MEMERY
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found on plebbit.
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>>183839703
fake
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>>183839703
That's actually good. Must be fake.
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>>183826730
Oh god I miss troll science threads back on /v/

>>183839703
>Undeads
They couldn't just call them zombies? What's the difference between a zombie and an undead in the lore?
Or perhaps, it means a new tribe type is coming!?

Besides that, looks like a good card.
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Reminder to dumb fucks that think this game has bad power creep.

This game doesn't even have formats.
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>>183839971
>this other game has power creep, therefore Hearthstone doesn't have power creep

yeah because Ice Rager and Evil Heckler don't exist.
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>>183839547
>God grant us the serenity to accept the things we cannot change, the courage to change the things we can, and the wisdom to know the difference.
This. But more to my life in general. It's pretty hard anons.
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>>183839971
>an unrelated game has power creep so you aren't allowed to be mad about power creep in your own game hahahaha checkmate losers
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>>183839971
Why did they do this?
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>>183839971
Well duh, look at the images. The one on the left looks stronger.
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>>183840305
The game was more about being showy and attractive for youth to buy than anything else.
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>>183839971
When did 4* get more than 1.6K attack?
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>>183840506
so just like Hearthstone?
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>idolising a neckbeard
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>>183840506
>>183840670
I think you are both probably wrong. Especially about Yugioh. It seems to have so much depth that I can hardly even learn how to play.
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>>183840219
Name one example in hearthstone as egregious as that, and that's just some neutral minion. You can "muh silver back patriarch" all you want, but it has the beast tag and nothing so far that's better stated for the mana cost has both been neutral or been a beast. And yes, being neutral is an advantage over a class card, because Hunter didn't have access to fierce monkey (I shudder to think). Even ice rager isn't a -strict- power creep because there are effects which only proc on 1 health targets. The only example of STRICT power creep is evil heckler, though if you wanted to be EXTREMELY pedantic, evil heckler won't come out of firelands portal, doesn't evolve as well, and devolves into worse minions. And also will eventually rotate out. Same with pompous thespian.

I didn't say you can't be allowed to complain, if you want, but power creep in this game really isn't bad compared to most other TCG's, and I think people get way too wrapped up in it.
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finally a good card, why does cuckler seem so happy.
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>>183841085
>Mage card
that's it.
I'm done.
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>>183840609
Dude, it's been like this a while. Also, look up pendulum cards if you wanna read a few short novels.
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>>183841085
>3 mana for a 2/6
Huh, not bad sta-
>Mage
Of course.
Seriously now though, I like the concept but I'm not sure if it will work.
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>>183840870
>depth
>expansive, confusing, overdesigned, overcomplicated mechanics, in an ever growing pool of cards with a ban list you can fit on one page
Yeah, sure, depth, we'll go with that, sounds nicer.
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>>183841085
fake
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>>183841001
if you're going to be anal like that, then technically your example is also not a "strick power creep" because Celtic Guardian does not die to Bottemless Trap Hole. You shouldn't bring up other games if you don't know what the fuck you're talking about, especially when both of those cards are irrelevant trash anyways.

>>183841169
you are a small baby to me
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>>183841085
why run this? not trying to shit on it but frost nova doomsayer works fine and to get the same effect youd somehow have to kill this off the same turn, if you want to keep it to freeze one turn, then nova, then kill why not nova doomsayer instead? it only provides 2 damage, is blocked by taunt and kicks out any really useful card
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Kibler went on a Twitter tirade early professing how strong a card Blood-Queen Lana'thel is and I argue that Lana'thel will be garbage regardless due to how poorly designed the Discard mechanic is.
I understand the argument of "Warlock is not good so the card will not be good" and that is a wrong one. The class can improve and be solid but this card will not be featured in it as the Discard mechanic is unreliable and a trainwreck at its current state.
Well, here's your chance for someone to donate to a good cause.

Edit: By the way this is not a slam on Kibler, I'm a big fan of his content and he was my first Twitch prime sub a few months ago.

Edit 2: Please note this means in three months time there must be a Tier 2 deck. Not a deck that emerges in one month that climbs to Tier 1 or 2 but one once the meta settles.
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>>183841327
It's 6 mana, grampa, clean your glasses.
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>>183839971
>>183841169
>>183841415
is Yugioh fun to play?
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>>183841085
fucking cancer OP Mage bullshit, literally every time.
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reminder that Kibler is probably the only non-Blizzard employee that Team 5 actually listen to for feedback
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>>183840609
The game came out in the States with 4* 1.8K monsters (La Jinn, who came in the first starter deck).
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>>183841521
Frost Nova costs 3 mana. You are paying 3 mana for the 2/6, the deathrattle and having it be all in one card. Doesn't change the fact that the card is fake though.
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>>183841085

>/hsg/ thinks it's broken and overpowered
Trash/10 will never see play confirmed
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>>183839703
Its arguably way better than that one Draenei Jungle Foursome card because you get the 1/1's and they are taunts.

Since its 1 more mana and epic it would be baiscally balanced.

I am sure its fake though just posting what I think if it isn't.
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>>183841552
It's fun, but it's also a steaming pile of unbalanced shit.
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>taking any opinions on card balance and viability seriously on /hsg/

loving every laugh

hey remember that time we shit on quest rogue and cried about hunter quest cancer
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>>183841621
I'd bet any money that they listen to Kripp regarding Arena design.
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Now THIS is a card. OP Baby BTFO
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>>183837940
I want Valeera to fuck my mindlessly with a strap on.
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I've only seen ticking abomination, where can I find the others
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>>183841085

Sick combo with this new card.
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>>183841552
yes, but also a bit hard to get into
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>>183841947
http://www.hearthpwn.com/
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>>183841935
I was merely pretending to be retarded! HAHAHA
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>>183841085
Not this fucking shit.
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>>183841415
Can't you attack the same turn you summon a monster? How is that fair?
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>>183841085
would be better if it was a 2/1 with charge
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>>183842528
would be better if it was a 30/30 with charge megawindfury and divine shield desu
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>>183842498
Its fair because all of your monsters also have Charge :^)

Also you can't go face if your opponent has monsters on the field
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>>183841684
You can't count it like that. People try to reduce effects down to it, but it's different. Like saying drawing one card is worth 1.5 mana, it's just heuristics and worth more to designers than players. Regardless, yeah, it has to be fake.
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>use tech card
>never draw it when you need it
>turn 1 draw every game you don't need it
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>>183842610
Also they missed the prefect opportunity to introduce double tribe minions. This could have been beast/elemental.
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>>183842730
>use hungry crab on tidecaller turn 1
>opponent concedes
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>Kibler went on twitter and said how strong Lana'thel is

There is a limit to how much of a sellout cuck you can be and Kibler just surprassed it
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>>183842528
It would, in fact, be broken
>Wouldn't it be better if it was a 6 mana twisting nether that didn't hit my side of the board :^)
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>>183841085
Fake
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>>183842730
80-85% of the time without a doubt
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>>183842958
lol
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>>183842950
More warlock cards that benefit from discard need to be not discardable. You draw Lana'thel early, and you're just sweating the rest of the game. Like a reverse bolvar
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who are these fucking guys that blizzard reaches for these card reveals, seriously.
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>>183843330
Anyhow, it's going to be a vanilla stated minion which requires pumping up and heals you for 5-10 at best and can be fireballed, etc.
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Warlock's gonna get some crazy 2 mana draw 3 cards you discarded this game type of shit and discolock gonna be tier1 mark my words screencap this shit
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>>183843330
No, because being able to be discarded adds skill to it. You have to choose between using your discard cards or waiting until you play the cards you don't want to discard. :^)
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>>183843440
I believe that's Sam Hyde, a well known white nationalist.
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>>183843440
you tell me, you're the one making the picture
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>>183843440
>Never Use Your Hero Power: The Card
Why the fuck would I want to fill my board with a random assortment of 0/2's? Totem Golem isn't a card anymore, mana tide is slow, getting some free flame tongues in random positions is... weird? Primalfin is the only one that's ok. I guess if you have 5 totems, hope they stick, and you play thunderbluff in wild...? Or evolve, and get a bunch of 2 drops while you pray for no doomsayer? He'd stay an 8/8...

Fuck I hate this card.
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>>183843440

>10 mana 8/8 flood your board with 1/1s and 0/2s
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>>183843440
So is this good? Is Shaman coming back?
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>>183843804

>10 mana

holy shit are you retarded or something
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>>183841713
>6 mana blizzard that puts a body on the board
>Can be combo'ed with fireball for board clear
>Or another freeze effect next turn
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>>183843804
It could easily cost 0.
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>>183843440
what the fuck
shaman totally needs more cost reduce board flood

goddamit
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>>183843804
>>183843893
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>>183843440
>two zero cost 8/8's that spawn random totems

fake and gay.
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>>183843943
Is that a MAGA hat?
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>>183843440
Fake but would be useable.
You play it for low mana cost 8/8.
summoning totems is irrelevant
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Warlock is finally saved!
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>>183844074
The more I think on it, the more it's possible you get a 3 mana 8/8 that sets up a massive bloddlust while leaving plenty of mana to control the board. This card gives you the ability to play control with a bloodlust finish, potentially. It'd be good if it existed.
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>>183844189
No way this card must be fake, It s to strong
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>>183844189
No, this card is not real it's 5 stronk.
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>>183844189
>demon
Unironically triggered right now.
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>>183844189
the comma is a nice touch.
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>>183841085
>old apartment
nice try he moved a week before KotfT announcement
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New card. Does anyone speak wingdings?
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>>183844357
Fuck, I thought it was a smudge on my screen. I need to proofread my shit.
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To prove that Blizzard knows what they are doing with Frozen Throne and carefully designs cards to be balanced and interesting, I spent one hour on random generated hypothetical expansion, full of uninspired or broken cards. I hope that my work will show you how hard is to properly design the cards and that you can't just blindly fault people who know that they are doing.
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>>183844487
>Upset Researcher
>Draw (3) Secrets from your deck. Secrets drawn this way may be played for (0).
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>>183844487
Madder Scientist
Switch all minions attack and health.
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>>183844238
I think this card would actually be playable even if it was legendary.
xboxhuge stats for low mana is always good. and you can just play other shit first to fill up your board if you dont want the totems.
And like you said, bloodlust for finisher.
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>>183844487
Takes extra effort to shitpostin in Hebrew.
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>>183844487
Professor Putricide
Card text: Whenever you play a Secret, play another random Hunter Secret.
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>>183844487
Professor Putricide

Class: Hunter

Card type: Minion

Rarity: Legendary

Mana cost: 4

Card text: Whenever you play a Secret, play another random Hunter Secret.

Attack: 5

HP: 4
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>>183844487
>After you play a Secret card, put another random Hunter Secret into play.

OP OP OP. Secret Hunter is meta again boys. Imagine this + 3/4 chick for free double secrets.
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>>183844487
Should have been a mage card
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>>183844747
I dunno, you can't combo them and all hunter secrets are shit.
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>Shaman N'Zoth... but for Totems only
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>>183844520
I really hope this is an ironic Reddit cross post, and that you didn't actually waste your time doing this.
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>>183844972
>Freezing Trap
>Explosive Trap
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are we getting a free 1 win arena run with the next two tavern brawls?
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>>183844972

New hunter secret

When two of your beasts die in the same turn, resummon them as a zombeast.
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>>183845134
Yes. Also all arena runs will start with 1 win until the event ends.
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>>183845134
yes
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>>183845165
Really? Proofs?
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>hunter secrets in 2017
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>>183845332
See >>183845098
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If Putricide is the Hunter legendary, what character is left to be the Rogue legendary?
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>>183844487
>Make card aggressively stated and costed
>It is still Garbage
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>>183845469
Sindragosa
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>>183845469
The Kidnapper dude.
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>>183845427
>meta hp is 3+
>meta is patches to eat freeze

hmm
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Basically if cloaked huntress comes out on 3, and you dont kill it, you're in for a world of pain and you're never getting back on the board without pain once the Putricide comes down and the secrets start poppin off
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>>183844054
Nah, this pic is from well before 2016.
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>>183845547

If they're going to try to make Freeze Shaman a thing, shouldn't they get Sindragosa?
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>>183838994
h-hey guys I did it. my first 12 win arena
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>>183845486
It's really not. You'll see.
>I'll show them all!
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>>183844487
I read moon runes, here:
>Another Aggressively Stat'd Hunter Curve Minion
>Have an interesting effect that doesn't amount to anything because no hunter deck can support it
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>mfw you idiots aren't even enjoying based Gwent right now
>whining about your upcoming shit expansion

I pity you
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>>183845785
Fuck off Lifecoach your review of the Hunter quest was so bad you had to leave the game in shame.
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>>183844487
Man. That actually seems good. It will at least be fun to play around with.
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>>183844487
>It's fucking real

There's no fucking direction at all in this set
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>>183845609
Pirates aren't all of the meta if you don't only play to get rank 5 and better on Standard.
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>>183845609

Patches is always gonna be dead by t4 against hunter.

Too many things you need to kill in the first few turns (alleycat, adapt raptor, hyena, fiery bat, animal companion etc.)
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>>183845728
Secret Hunter is close to being viable.
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>>183845728
*brode laughter in the distance*
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>>183845785
Why are you even here?
>>183845818
What are the ZomBeasts?
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>>183845609
>freezing is good against the +3 hp side of the meta
>explosive is good against the patches side of the meta

really makes you think. card is still kind of bad though
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>>183846075
>what are the zombeasts?
Check the new Hunter hero card.
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oh boy.
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>>183845908

This is the first hunter card we've seen (other than rexxar) how could you possibly say what direction they're going from that?

Deathstalker implies slower. Lego implies secret focused (or at least one new secret so hunter bothers running secrets again)
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>>183846242
fugg
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False and homosexual.
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> Blood of The Ancient One
> Shadowstep
> Prince Taldaram
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>>183846242

I AIN'T TALKIN'
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>>183846442
>shadow word: death
Wow...
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>>183845674
Congrats man.
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>>183846058
>>183845728

Both of these are fine cards in hunter.
I run stalkers and would run princess if I had her.

>Kindly grandmother
>Highmane
>Rat pack
>Infested wolf
>Any beast adapted to summon saplings in death

All good minions you can run and its really easy to hit them for mad tempo
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>>183845713
>this card in current mage meta
This would effectively kills all secret archetype since more people will just run anti secret tech.
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>>183846550
death is 3 mana
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>>183846610
Huhuran isn't bad but all you do is overextend when you play her. The times I played her, either I was winning already or they cleared as easily as if I didn't play her.
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Discard is a mechanic where one of the two player is guaranteed to hate the match they just had. How this is passable with Team 5 when everything needs to be "fun" is beyond me. We can't have Stealth because it's not fun, but it's okay that every game is nothing but a pendulum swing.
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>>183846242

Rogue getting a pirate lego confirmed

If the rogue hero card is something control related control rogue might literally be a thing
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>>183846268
I would be ok if it was a fucking beast the legendary or some relation at all

plus secrets are a niche part of hunter, from this I can expect a new secret being revealed soon but overall neither archetypes would combine

I could be wrong however if for some unholy power they manage to create the control hunter, it could be worse too cause I could had seen the professor more of a mage card than a hunter one
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>>183846796

I hope it's a Tuskarr.
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>>183844487
So... How exactly he is Hunter?
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>>183846242
So would this trigger the Patches that it shuffled into the deck?
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>>183847083
Patches says "After you summon a pirate" so it should.
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>>183846747
so?
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I heard that we have Loatheb back again. Did they reprinted him?
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>>183846957
>>183846876

He chugs green slime potions like a madman. Hunter secrets are green. You play hunter secrets like a madman when hes out
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>>183847607
Kind of...
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>>183847607
6 mana 5/5
increase the cost of spell by (2)

basically nowhere near as good
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So the new Hunter legendary doesn't seem like total fucking garbage, what an unironically huge surprise
Hunters might actually start putting a legendary in their decks now
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They really changed who gets to preview the cards this time around...
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>>183844487
Literally every single hunter legendary has been trash and unplayable.

Every single other classes has had at least one, if not more, playable legendaries throughout the entire game. Every single hunter legendary is bad. Even their legendary quest is bad. Even their revealed hero and legendary minion are bad.

Why can't Hunter get good legendaries? I understand that Hunter has been very good at certain points, but it's a little frustrating that there has just been one class that gets shafted every single expansion. They even have the most legendaries out of anyone!
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>>183828514
This card is still very bad. It doesn't fit aggro because the stats are shit, and the armor is irrelevant or might even end up having a negative impact on your games if you run mortal strike. It's bad in control because you can't shield slam the turn you play it, plus, your opponent might be able to remove the armor on the same turn they kill it so you won't even be able to combo it that turn. Aggro will just ignore it, giving you a slight edge by being able to make favorable trades, but it's not nearly worth it considering 4/3 is garbage stats.
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>>183848034
because savannah highmane exists
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>>183848008
>Let me tell you folks. Here is the story. Okay, so, Hearthstone is a disaster. I know it, you know it, everyone knows it, believe me. And here is what I said, I said, okay, so, hearthstone is a disaster and we have to fix it. It has to be fixed, folks. We have no choice. Mean Streets of Gadgetzan was the worst expansion in the history of expansions, possibly ever. It's a disaster.
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hunter still paying for huntertaker days
will never get card draw
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>>183848034
team5 doesnt understand in which direction they need to take hunter. Every expansion hunter gets cards that all over the place and dont complete eachother.
even in this one we already see this. death knight is about creating new (high) cost minions and then we get a legendary that focuses on secrets. These just dont compliment each other.
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>>183848092
>it's the day where 3 for 4/3 is shit for aggro
Literally how is a reverse spider tank is bad? For comparison, it's a Shield Block that gives you a minion instead of a draw.
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>arena
>can't kill this nigger the turn it's played
>lose
Awesome arena meta, Brodie. I love losing because I didn't draw my removal after it gets coined out on turn 2.
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>>183848361
It is like they are created for two different archetypes or seomthing, wow.
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Let us be very clear: we cannot keep living in a world where Hunters are not guaranteed playable legendary minions.

When you are a first world game, where 1% of all whales own 99% of the card, then you are no longer playing a f2p game. We cannot continue to burden our f2p btw with excessive crafting costs and expect players to buy more card packs.

We must move to a single pack system, where legendary quality cards are available to all players for an affordable amount of gold.

End of discussion.
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Guys
What deck should I play to get from rank 10 to 5? Looking to finally ladder since I haven't been playing much this month
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>>183848743
quest rogue
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>>183848608
> It's I lost to it so it must be OP episode!
Card is literally Daring Reporter level of balanced.
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>>183848608

You are on the play and play a 2 drop on turn 2 with 2-3 power. Next turn you attack fledgling with your minion and either hero power it to death or use an effect that makes your minion trade for it. Or use a removal spell if you got one.

Some games you can't do shit to your opponents plays and lose. Some games you lose to lesser or greater bullshit or 1 card that might come out in a situation that sucks for you. Git gud
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>>183848851
probably because you dont always get to play it early
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>>183848851

Don't remove it ASAP the next time you see it in arena and let me know how that works out for you
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>>183848619
Yeah, like they try with every expansion.
And it never fucking works.
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>>183848978
>says git gud
>fledgling basically says "have removal or you lose :^)"
>having removal is based on draw rng
>which you cant control
???
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>>183848851
Look here buddy:

Vicious Fledging is a problem because it is a card that on its own can win the game. There is no playing around it, no skill involved. They play it, you have to answer it, and even if you do, you're not down anything. There is no cost associated with it. It's not some build around combo card, it is a 3 mana 3/3 (which in arena is an okay state line) that can sometimes just win you the game. Thats a problem. When it is a card that you'd probably play on curve anyways but also has the added benefit of sometimes just flat out winning, it's an issue.
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>>183848317

Run tol'vir warden and stampede if you want a "Draw more shit" deck. Hunters gimmick looks like its being pushed into "Dont draw a card: Create new cards" with the two new legos
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>>183849017
It also can be removed and you need to roll a good adapt for it to do something of worth.

Facebird is pretty unreliable, to be honest.
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>>183849271

Did you read the rest of the post, or did you skip straight to the git gud part? Either way, you should git gud
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>>183849336
yes and it made no sense.
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>>183849403

I think that's why you need to git gud
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>>183849314
Most of the adapt options are just fine though. Sure, poison is bad and so is taunt, but basically everything else is just fine. They all are worth it for a 3 mana creature, and if you get the really busted ones (windfury or health) then it's fucking broken beyond belief.

When the range is okay and on curve to busted, it's a problem for ONE card that requires no combo or set up.
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>>183848627
it's time we push for a fair and equal wage. That's right 1500 gold an hour!
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>>183848978

>played a 1 drop
>opponent played a 1 drop too
>trade 1 drops on my half of turn 2 then hero power because didn't have any 1 or 2 drops to play
>opponent coins out vicious fledgling on his half of turn 2
>don't draw removal or taunts
>opponent gets windfury on first face attack
>next face attack is immune to spells/hero power so fuck me even if I do draw removal
>faggots on /hsg/ tell me it's a git gud situation and say that "draw the answer the turn it's played or else you lose" 3 drops are balanced
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>>183849520
nah i think you just think you dont know how arena works my man
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>>183849272
> There is no playing around it
This is clearly bullshit. You just need to remove the 3 health minion to play around it and this isn't even that hard to do.
> b-b-b-b-but I drafted 20 Cabalist's Tomes instead of cards like frostbolt
Your problem, buddy.
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>>183849669
>falling for the b8
m8
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>>183849558
> They all are worth it for a 3 mana creature
They aren't worth wasting tempo for going face instead of fighting for a board. Windfury is only really busted one.
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>>183849872

How is it bait when I explained to him how to deal with a coined 3/3 and stop complaining. The fledgling even has a chance to brick even if it connects once. It's a good card, but you have many ways to deal with it with all classes in a way that doesn't require specific cards in your opening hand.
Git gud
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>>183849669
but anon, why didn't you just play your two drop/3 damage spell that you always have in your opening hand! just git gud :^)
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>>183849150
> Don't remove it ASAP
Same is true for like 50 other minions from Venture Co to Bittertide Hydra.
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>>183849990

Board control doesn't really matter when you can snowball it into a 6/6 windfury can't be targeted by spells or hero powers after a couple turns. Don't forget the player who controls vicious fledgling has other minions and spells to play to support and protect his "I win" card.
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>>183850074
based baitposter

>>183850165
>turn 5 is the same is turn 2/3
kek, nice shield
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>>183850165

You're more likely to have removal in hand or a solid board by turn 4/5 than 2/3, plus those cards have drawbacks unlike vicious fledgling.
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>>183849862
>just play Frostbolt bro
so iterally one class that can deal with it cleanly on turn 3, assuming they have the card in hand.

is this really your best defense for the existence of Fledgling? Blizzdrones just keep getting more and more obnoxious every expansion.
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>>183849271
> have removal
> or simple taunt
> or drop to trade into it
Meanwhile, really problematic shit like Pyroblasts or Dinosize wouldn't even gladly give you one turn for a response.
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2 steps to kill a coined 3/3 on arena.

1. Play a 2-drop that doesn't suck dick (2/2 or something)
2. Attack the 2 drop at the 3/3 and use your hero power to finish it off

Alternative:
1. Play a 2 drop with 3 power
2. Attack the fledgling
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>>183850487

You can play around Dinosize
>don't leave minions on the board
>have a taunt up
>secrets like counterspell, noble sacrifice, vaporize, freezing trap
>win before it can be played
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>>183850434
> literally one class can deal with it
You must be pretty autistic to believe in that
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>>183848376
Find me a single 3 mana 4/3 minion in the history of hearthstone except blade master(if you can even count that) that has been viable for serious competitive play except Kirin Tor Mage(which is ran for it's stats, right?). 4/3 is shitty stats even in agrro because it dies to practically anything, especially these days since there's barely any 4 health minion seeing any play what so ever. The only relevant I can think of is Bloodsail Cultist(a card you'd much rather run in favor of this), Gadgetzan(yeah, like you don't have other ways to deal with this at that point in the game), Finja(which have stealth, and pretty much always attacks into stuff lowering it's health anyway), Frothing(another card you'd run in favor of this), Gentle Megasaur(probably the only good trade you can consistently expect this card to do on curve), Stonehill defender(Probably the second best card this can be up against) and maybe some other shit I forgot too. Of course, you'd mostly want to go face with this right? Well, that's not going to happen when it dies to your opponents 2 drop. The armor gain is pretty shit too, the cycle is almost always better in decks that want to run shield block and as I said in the first post, you're never going to get a shield slam with this the same turn you play it making it a LOT worse.
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>>183850487
>>183850531
>have removal
didnt draw it

>have taunt
didnt draw it

>have 2 drop
didnt draw it

guess i lose :^)
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>>183850764
git gud and draw them
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>>183850764
So you complaint is that this card game is a card game?
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>>183850680
Oops, 2/9 then. Same argument applies.

What else you got, Blizzdrone?
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>>183850829
(You)

>>183850842
no the complaint is you lose games solely to a minion played on turn 2/turn 3, bearer of shields
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>>183850842

Main complaint is that it's fucking stupid to have minions you can play on turn 2 be "remove this turn or lose" cards. We had a card like that before called Undertaker except it was a 1 drop and it was responsible for the most broken deck this game has ever seen.
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>>183850634
Taunts and secrets also counter Fledgeling and it is for sure much easier to remove and answer, as the minion isn't that fast as spell.
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>>183850902
> What is taunt?
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Guys when the #1 Arena player in NA agrees Fledgling is fucked and you think it isn't, it's a bit retarded.
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>>183851216

WOW 9/9 classes can answer it. Same argument applies. Blizzdrones these days...
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>>183850726
If it gets killed, you get 6 armor. I don't see what's wrong with that.
>dying to 2 drop
Let's not forget the new Icy Peace Axe.
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>>183851067
>>183851216

>turn 3
>you have likely drawn 7-8 cards
>turn 8
>you have likely drawn 12-15 cards
In which situation are you more likely to have the board to deal with a strong minion or the removal in hand to remove a strong minion?
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>>183850951
> you lose games solely to a minion played on turn 2/turn 3
Instead of solely to some bullshit discovery from a shit like Glyph? Vicious Fledgeling is pretty fair in comparison to that. Just draft something that can remove it or play minions to trade proactively into possible Fledgeling turn 3.
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>>183850764
> I drafted 20 free from ambers
> Why I can't draft taunt and removals?
> ITS ALL FLEDGELING FAULT
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>>183850902
>>183851330

Wrath, sw:p, lighting bolt/rockbiter, backstab+weapon.
Lock has soulfire, a bad arena card, and with 3 mana shadowbolt.
Hunter has Eaglehorn bow and kill command with 3 mana.
Pally has Rallying blade with 3 mana.

A great portion of this cards are common, so not to hard to draft, for pally can be hard tho.
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>>183851614
>glyph
one class

>fledgling
all classes

whats your point
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>evolve gangster
>get 3 unraveller
Will this be screenshot worthy? How many can clear that other than Deathwing?
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Blizz sucks at balance, and a lot of things, but let's be honest, y'all are complaining about bullshit cards in a game that has much worse things about it. Plus it's only arena.
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>>183851784
>implying i managed to draft 20 frostbolts to deal with it
uhh
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>>183851406
Turn 3 is most likely because you can mulligan for answers (instead of using them against threats on turns from 4 to 7).
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>>183851814
> one class
Between Tortollans and Hadgetzan factions, there is a bullshit discovery in every class, anon. Not even including RNG class cards.
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>>183852218
>because discover is cancer fledgling isn't
anon i'm aware discover sucks ass
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>>183851337
Sure, 6 armor is nice, but if you're playing against aggro then your opponent might as well just ignore it and go face themselves. Also, if you manage to curve war axe into this then you might as well also assume your opponent managed to draw an answer, like ooze(which nicely takes care of your weapon AND this minion), damage spells(frostbolt, eviscerate, wrath, etc), tar creepers, their own weapons too, even their own axe(though they'll take a hit themselves, which might end up favorable for you)
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>>183829510
So if I take a board with a hole in it and slammed it down around a box, the box goes flying? Good to know.
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>>183852368
Fledgeling is slightly above average, it can cheese out like one win out of ten games. Many cards are strong if you are lucky enough to play them in the best possible situation (on curve, without answers and high-roll best adaptation on top of that).
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>>183852368
>>because discover is cancer fledgling isn't
But fledgling literally discovers
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>>183844487
If they print a decent control secret like Freezing Bear Snipe this will be really good, I think secrets are already the best way to build hunter anyway but he sucks so no one cares

I'm finally hype
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>>183852985
i know

>>183852795
Many cards are strong if you are lucky enough to play them in the best possible situation (on curve, without answers and high-roll best adaptation on top of that).

this one can win games by itself however
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my uncle is ben brode's fucciboy, and he told me the warlock hero will be a discard N'zoth, and the hero power will be a discard discover.
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>>183853182
> this one can win games by itself however
I wish, people always found the way to deal with them when I drafted 4 fledgelings deck.
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>>183846796
>Secret Hunter support
>possible Aggro Rogue support

YES IT'S TIME
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would you play this card?
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>>183853514
Maybe, if it was a minion's effect.
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>>183853365
you just never had any game where it did

it sucks even worse to lose to since it has the -50% occurence chance
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>>183853706
> 50% occurence chance
True, now it is more unexpected than before where you can mulligan for an answer reliably.
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all cards have been vigorously internally tested and there will be no bad cards this expansion. just wait for new reveals and pre order.
t. not bb road
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>>183853514
too expensive
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You can clone Pyros with Prince... I hope it wouldn't be too broken.
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>>183854189
>Not running secrets or arcane intellect.
nigga what are you doing?
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>>183854274
You can yank secrets from your deck with Arcanologist

For Wild, Mad Scientist+duplicate bullshit can yank pretty much any amount of Secrets from your deck that you want.
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>>183853150
>>183853493
REXXAR BOYS WW@
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>>183854189
>Kazakus
>Umbra
>Reflection
>Servant of Kalimos
>N'zoth
It's already fun. Wild even has more tools.
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>>183854467

oing oing XDDD
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>>183854467
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>Playful sprites on EU
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>>183854189
if it was broken people would just run molten and coin it out
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kripp stream, boys. lets go
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>literally unable to win a single fucking match as mage
why the FUCK is literally everything a mage counter? I just want to get this stupid fucking golden portrait and finish this quest already
but every single match is a fucking literal counter deck, it doesn't matter if I tech in cards or swap playstyles, I will ALWAYS queue into the exact counter and literally never draw the one of million answers I potentially have in my deck
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>>183855658
what deck are you playing?
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>>183844189
I unironically believe they will print this effect in the warlock hero card batlecry
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>>183855658
funny i hate playing mage especially freeze they always seem to have answers and unless i get the perfect opener to smorc their face down before they can stabilise it just isnt a fun time
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>>183841085
good job guys

https://www.reddit.com/r/hearthstone/comments/6plead/card_reveal_froststeed_a_freeze_removal_minion/
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>cuckler will donate a pittance to charity only on the condition that a shitty legendary sees play in 2 months
why even bother saying this. just do it, acting like $100 is a lot
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>>183854189
The 10% of the time it actually survives a turn.
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>>183855832
I'm trying that one control mage list, this one value mage list, and reno mage in wild. if you can help me come up with some kinda tempo/mech list, that'd be kinda fun, wild or not, I don't mind

>>183856003
I really dislike how "optimal" mage decks play in the current meta, it's not that fun. really, there aren't any decks that feel fun at all in the current meta right now
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>>183856152
lol
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>>183856152
never change leddit
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>>183856152
Doesn't stop there.
https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/710060-hearthstone-heroes-of-warcraft/75605270#4
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>>183844702
Ewwww have they learned nothing from mad scientist or mysterious challenger??!! Hunter's back boys
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>>183856797
>Hard countered by other Hunters and Eater of Secrets.

Nice tier 3 deck.
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>>183856797
control hunter will work this time, am i right
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>>183854881
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>>183857563
>>183857292
>>183856797
>>183844702
>play on curve
>does nothing
>play on turn 5+coin turn 6
>hurr 2 secrets
>meanwhile a fucking budget hunter deck would be finishing the fucking game by turn 6
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Best part of pre-release is all the fake leaks.
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>turn 3 - cloaked huntress.
>turn 4 Professor Putricide and a bunch of secrets.

if this is a thing eater of secrets is going to be seen a lot more
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>>183857757
Nice.
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>>183844702
That's so bad. It's just a big minion on the turn it hits the board, it clunks up your hand by encouraging you to hold onto both secrets and huntress. And best case scenario you're generating pretty weak secrets, since they'll be the ones you didn't want to run in the first place.

I honestly don't see how you make this card work, except by drowning hunter in amazing secrets.
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>>183857907
>turn 4 mysterio usurper
Sounds disgusting.
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MY DREAMING ENDS, YOUR LADDER CLIMBING BEGINS
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Fuck Ben Brode tbqfhfam
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>tfw you realize after this expansion the meta is still going to be pirate warriors and jade druids

so so glad i didnt preorder
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>>183837940

Confession: I only play as Maiev because of the feeling of playing as an alt hero. I could care less about her super interesting backstory, her titty armor, or her awkward voice. I still love Valeera more.
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>>183855658
>>183856249
Freeze is pretty definitely the best ladder deck right now up there with Shaman Pally etc., but it takes a lot of played games to git gud with honestly unlike those other decks. I've learned to appreciate games where you feel like you played well enough to "get there" with the deck, especially against Priest

I would recommend Secret Mage otherwise for ladder, Guenther Mage is kinda shit desu and no one plays it at legend for a reason. Ant's list is as good as any. Bit of a highroll deck but it will get you there for sure.
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>>183840870

It's not deep, it's just got complicated card mechanics. Just because understanding resolution and chains in the context of all card-goes-where conditions is tricky doesn't mean that the meta isn't a shit fiesta based on gimmicky combos.
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>>183860103
I'll try that, I'm literally single digit wins away
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>>183858265
It's like Houndmaster, there's literally nothing wrong with playing it naked on curve because it still has decent aggressive stats for Rexxar. I don't know for sure it it will see play but it has very good chances, especially if they print another secret as good as Cat Trick
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>>183860103
>tfw no yogg
wat do
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>>183860651
Craft Yogg, boi
He's a great card, can single-handedly win a game for you if you're behind once in a while, which is often enough to be good
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>>183860517
If you're playing houndmasters naked you're probably about to lose that game really hard. Why do you think no one plays big minions with no effects ?

>Very good chances
>When it doesn't synchronize correctly with anything in secret hunter
Aite buddy, you just hold on to that terrible combo until turn 4 while warrior hammers your face in
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>>183860651
If you have everything else you're golden, the deck works without it. You could put anything in from a tech card like volcanic to another big boy like Faceless Summoner to Medivh or whatever really.
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>>183860875
If you have no beasts on board it's not the worst thing in the world to play it out on 4, certainty it's better than saving it.

Like I said, I'm looking for another defensive secret but it would be acceptable right now in secret hunter, I would consider playing it considering good stats either way. In terms of how it syncs, I wouldn't overinvest in secrets for it depending but it might be worth. Not "WOW THIS IS OP" but it has potential with the new set

This isn't what makes Hunter good again though, a well statted early drop, 5-drop beast, and burn are what will decide his fate
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test
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>>183860517
>vanilla 4 mana 4/3 with no beast tag is a good play for a hunter
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>>183861565
It's obviously not ideal but if you don't have another 4 drop and no beast on board you're still gonna play it 80% of the time so you don't lose even more tempo
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>>183861382
>certainty it's better than saving it.
True, but in that position you're not really playing to win, you're playing to not lose as bad.

>it would be acceptable right now in secret hunter
Well yeah, but secret hunter's garbage right now. You'd still include it, I just don't think it makes the deck any better. Might even make it worse in some situations, since it takes up a 4drop slot.

Hunter really deserved a better legendary. I'd honestly rate this one under Knuckles

>This isn't what makes Hunter good again though, a well statted early drop, 5-drop beast, and burn are what will decide his fate
I want to agree with you on that, but I don't even know if that would be enough. Hunter is so far down the drain right now it's gonna take a miracle to drag it out.
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wow what a fucking terrible hunter legendary again. It isnt even CLOSE to playable. Cloacked huntress a common is undeniably better than this. What are you gonna do? Wait to turn 6 to play it with secret and get secret for free? Honestly i think there have been so many bad cards that reddit started feeling bad for Blizzard so they started complimenting terrible cards
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>haven't played in months
>the double gold and free shit got me back into it with the hype of a new cards
>all the cards are shit so far
Yeah I'm probably just going to quit all together.
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oh boy i forgot how gay end of season was just log in to get my cardback for the month and nothing but fucking jade druids everywhere
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>>183826535
>seasoned veterans, legend players and professionals
I was under the impression that Hearthstone devs don't play the game in their spare time because Blizzard doesn't give them personal collections, so nobody wants to work for 8 hours a day coming up with cards, testing them and playing them only for them to have to PAY for those cards out of their own pocket if they want to play the game outside of a closed circuit.

I mean not that it matters, because the guy who originally typed that honestly thinks people get jobs out of passion.
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Something about losing arena makes me rage, I can handle a hundred losses on ladder but losing in arena feels so humiliating
Like when a rogue pulls of hard removal 4 turns in a row, 2 of which are epic cards, and beats you down with a 2 drop because your deck has only 3 spells and you drew none of them.
Fuck this, I'm done with arena this isn't good for my health
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Dang ol Arthas will get a crappy caerd I kid you not those dang fools at blizzerd will make the dang ol lich king a joke , why do we keep playeng dis dang ol game...
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h-here we go!
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>>183863396
>using the dude when there's a girl portrait choice
Cant wait to have 9 waifues desu
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>>183826535
I don't understand how so many people think they know what's great for the game because they've spent an hour thinking about it. Did you know their developers spend 8+ hours and 5 days a week thinking about the game?

They do all kinds of alpha, beta and even potential patches to the game all the time and test it internally. Do you honestly think they've never thought about "discover a card in your hand and discard it" ?

Do you honestly think they didn't try replacements for blade flurry?

The current state of the game is intentional, it's not accidental. They aren't printing more silverback patriarchs here, they're printing interesting cards and we haven't seen the rest of the set. Reddit is so unbelievably wrong about cards each expansion mostly because they didn't try it yet in a world where all the other cards are around to support it. Blizzard does test everything they can to make sure it's a good mechanic. Maybe they're not always 100% right but they do a damn good job of trying

Not only are the developers seasoned veterans, legend players and professionals, but they're obviously passionate about making games or else they wouldn't have fought to get a job at blizzard at all.
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New mage card

2/6 mage card 4 mana
add mirror image to your hand

Terrible. Only playable card so far is still that warrior gain 6 armor card
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>>183826535
>4 years into Hearthstone
>"we don't know what Rogues identity is"
>"tricky trickster maybe"

>Lets nerf some cards into unplayability for the sake of design space then not take advantage of it
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>>183863981
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I'm genuinely worried that the power level of these cards are so low that the meta won't change at all
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>>183864348
I was thinking the same, these are some hilariously shit cards
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>>183864297
>>183863981
Why would anyone play this over Water Elemental? Also, it's a Battlecry
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>>183864348
i actually hope that happens.
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This card is actually pretty neat
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Is his opinion right? I try to think about this card and well..your discarding your hand for a 5 mana x/6 and lets be realistic, it's going to be 1-5 attack the majority of the time.
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>>183863906


https://www.reddit.com/r/hearthstone/comments/6ph1kg/blizzard_is_not_stupid_and_are_not_out_of_ideas/

Is this post that was post here like 20 times in the last 2days reddit sarcasm? Why are there so many redditors in this general?
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>>183864503
current meta is healthy, but 6 months of the same meta is not healthy for a card game's playerbase
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>>183864526
you either discard it early (And your whole hand so you end up topdecking this shit) or you get to play it and it dies to any removal
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>>183864526
It's not Bolvar bad. I give it that.
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>>183864526
no he is just doing damage control for Blizzard for the thousand time
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>>183864526
No he's wrong. It's a vanilla statted card with Lifesteal in the best case scenario. Not to mention this is assuming that you don't draw it before you've discarded enough cards and end up discarding it before it's worth playing.

It's a bad card because it relies on Discard to function and Discard is an inherently shitty mechanic due to it being random.
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>>183864635
i just think it would be funny.
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>>183864760
That's how you get invited to cast for jewzard
Ffs sottle said on twitter that hearthstone takes skill to win and if you're losing at it it's because you're bad
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>>183864526
this cards just shit and doesnt make sense
you can discard it
zoo doesnt need this
you dont want to discard anything in any other kind of warlock
dies to 1 fireball lol
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>>183864560
I don't understand how so many people think they know what's great for the game because they've spent an hour thinking about it. Did you know their developers spend 8+ hours and 5 days a week thinking about the game?

They do all kinds of alpha, beta and even potential patches to the game all the time and test it internally. Do you honestly think they've never thought about "discover a card in your hand and discard it" ?

Do you honestly think they didn't try replacements for blade flurry?

The current state of the game is intentional, it's not accidental. They aren't printing more silverback patriarchs here, they're printing interesting cards and we haven't seen the rest of the set. Reddit is so unbelievably wrong about cards each expansion mostly because they didn't try it yet in a world where all the other cards are around to support it. Blizzard does test everything they can to make sure it's a good mechanic. Maybe they're not always 100% right but they do a damn good job of trying

Not only are the developers seasoned veterans, legend players and professionals, but they're obviously passionate about making games or else they wouldn't have fought to get a job at blizzard at all.
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finally! thanks, Ryan, whoever you are, and thank you, anon for that mage deck
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>>183864526
he's right about the things he listed. the only problem is that all the warlock decks that plays enough discard cards to make this worth playing are fast decks that aren't going to want to play it.
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>>183864526
its too slow to be reliable healing
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>>183864917
ya no problem dude
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Should be good for quest mage and increasing its survivability
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>>183864928
Yeah that's the issue. We have these other discard cards(all of them currently) which reward aggressive play. Sacrifice a card for strong tempo plays and then we have this thing which, in the absolute best case scenario is a heal 6 IF it trades with a minion.
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>>183864889
While I appreciate the attempt at trying to take the moral high road here, I think you miss out on some of the people's anger from your seat my friend.

They are mad about the discard thing (as an example) because Blizzard keeps trying (and failing) to make it a thing. The majority of people don't want to have a discolock be an arch type but it seems to be on blizzard's agenda.

Or take the new legendary for example. With all the removal cards out there, if you manage to get lucky and dodge discarding here, you drop here and poof she is now a sheep or a frog.

Also most people don't like the rampant randomness that comes with discarding. One game you may discard two golems and be golden. Others you may throw out a jarraxxus by using soul fire.

People are upset bc they don't like the arch type... I think people jump the gun on a lot of the card design especially when 11 cards are out but they also feel like they're being ignored too.
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>>183864507
Shame it has utterly nothing to do with poisons. Cause the actual effect is interesting, but not worthwhile.
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>Boogey is actually better in Arena than the Bloodqueen

Makes me really think...
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>>183865164
>jade has been controlling meta for ages
>blizzard finally releases a card to counter it
>blizzard nerfs said card
>jade controlling meta again
>HAVE A HUGE OPPORTUNITY TO NOT MAKE THE UNGORO MISTAKE AGAIN AND FINALLY ADD SHIT THAT MAKES JADE USELESS
>Nope lets make shitty meme cards instead

Blizzard logic everyone
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>>183865118
eh, kind of boring, not bad I guess
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>>183826747

Discard is one of those things that Blizzard is trying to do so hard because every other card game in the history of card games has discard decks and they typically are pretty neat.

But those decks always require some sort of graveyard manipulation or choice involved.Which Blizzard just flat out refuses to fucking do, because they are scared to take a risk on their most green of cash cows. Also because they are retarded.

So to answer your fears, you can look forward to them printing more and more cards to try to make this work, with increasingly powerful effects, that no one is ever going to use because the sheer level of randomness just flat out isn't worth it.
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>>183865286

>5 mana 1 6
>literally requires you to discard 6 fucking cards to make it roughly average in power
>requires you to discard 1/5th of your entire deck with out discarding this card
>you have zero control over any of it

FUCKING BRILLIANT
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>>183865118
This is real, not too bad, the cheap spell counts for the mage quest.
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>>183865530
They should make a warlock card simmilar to tracking with something like:
"pick a card to discard, shuffle the other two into your deck"
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>>183865845
Or just make all the discard cards say that.
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What the fuck is this thing supposed to be
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>>183864526
Kibler is just a blizzard shill who will say anything to defend the game and their decisions because he directly profits from it.

The card is shit, and the card is shit because the whole archetype is shit.

DISCARDING RANDOM CARDS IS NOT A GOOD MECHANIC. IT WILL NEVER BE GOOD. THE RISK OF DISCARDING YOUR CARDS THAT DISCARD CARDS IS TOO GREAT. YOU HAVE TO BE LUCKY TO DRAW CORRECTLY, AND EVEN IF YOU DO YOU'RE NOT EVEN GETTING HUGE BENEFITS.

Does that spell it out well enough for you, Kibler?
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>>183866079
a bald night elf?
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>>183866193
as long as kibler is able to feed his coke addiction, he'll shill till the end of time
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Why do I get the feeling that they got like several "visions" for every class, but don't know what the fuck to do with them? (see Hunter trap synergy/beasts, Warlock demons/discard, Druid ramp/jade etc.)

Why don't they just try to make one thing good instead of doing 5 shitty things?
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>>183864747
Bolvar is way better than that card, because at least Bolvar is an actual finisher. In the best case that card is like a 5 or a 6/6. At least Bolvar can be a 30/7 and one shot the opponent. Both are only good in the goldy locks scenarios, and Bolvar's is better.
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>>183865164
I don't understand how so many people think they know what's great for the game because they've spent an hour thinking about it. Did you know their developers spend 8+ hours and 5 days a week thinking about the game?

They do all kinds of alpha, beta and even potential patches to the game all the time and test it internally. Do you honestly think they've never thought about "discover a card in your hand and discard it" ?

Do you honestly think they didn't try replacements for blade flurry?

The current state of the game is intentional, it's not accidental. They aren't printing more silverback patriarchs here, they're printing interesting cards and we haven't seen the rest of the set. Reddit is so unbelievably wrong about cards each expansion mostly because they didn't try it yet in a world where all the other cards are around to support it. Blizzard does test everything they can to make sure it's a good mechanic. Maybe they're not always 100% right but they do a damn good job of trying

Not only are the developers seasoned veterans, legend players and professionals, but they're obviously passionate about making games or else they wouldn't have fought to get a job at blizzard at all.
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>>183866079
a Half-Elf
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>>183862034
As someone who reached legend with the deck, it's inferior to Warrior, Paladin, Secret Mage, and the Token Brothers but it's really not that far off and playable, much more so than zoo.

The thing about the deck is that it is too much of a middle ground. It doesn't have the burn and sneaky tempo of Mage, the sustained damage from hand of Pirate Warrior, or the ridiculous board flood of token or paladin decks, but relies on aspects of all three to survive. It's hard to set up unique Hunter-esque "swing turns* in which you put your 15-20 in in a two turn window like the old days.

The way to go is more towards Pirate Warrior I think, with synergistic minions, another early weapon, or just more damage from hand. That archetype went from something to nothing with a couple ridiculous cards, so I don't see why they couldn't make Hunter good
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>>183866228
You mean feed his wife's alcoholism. She is sauced nearly every time she is on his stream, and that is a really, really bad sign. She seems to drink nightly, and honestly, I'm worried for her.
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>>183866245
cause that would take actual effort rather than just throwing ideas at a fucking wall and hoping the players do something with them
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>>183866245
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>>183866273
BOLVAR I ACTUALLY GET TO USE THE CARDS AND HAVE THEM DIE BEFORE I TRIGGER HIS EFFECT.

THIS SHITTY ASS CARD I HAVE TO FUCKING THROW AWAY CARDS BEFORE I CAN USE EFFECT.

WHY CANT BLIZZARD UNDERSTAND THIS?
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>>183866316
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>>183866384
>worried about another man's wife
FUCKING KEK
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>>183864526
>Entire deck revolves around drawing perfectly while simultaneously discarding perfectly which is random to achieve moderate advantages, with the end result not even being good

That is why the card is bad, Kibler. The entire archetype sucks fucking ass and it will continue to suck ass especially when rotation happens. This guy is just a fucking retard. He is a washed up MTG pro who had to move to Hearthstone because he can't keep up anymore, and he can't even play Hearthstone professionally so he just does casting while his wife sits home and drinks 24/7 and cheats on him.
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>>183866245
They do occasionally make something good by just printing broken as fuck cards. see: Priest
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>>183865845
Not bad actually.
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>>183866527
It's not specifically that it is another person's wife, but my uncle who I was very close to became an alcoholic and it destroyed his life, his family, and his friend's lives. He ended up dying in a car accident, while drunk, and killed 3 people in the process.

Alcoholism sucks, and Natalie is gonna end up just like that. It wouldn't happen if Kibler put his foot down, but he is a SJW coward.
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>>183844702

>wow it's fucking nothing

The average HS game is what? 8 turns at this point? Hunter Secrets are, by and large, complete fucking shit. OH BOY A FREE 3 mana 3 3 with taunt at turn 6 WHAT A FUCKING STEAL.

I know there' are a lot of cards left to unveil, but if a dozen expansions have shown anything, the meta isn't slowing down.
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>>183866625
You of all people should know that you can't stop an alcoholic unless they want to be stopped, anon. It's a terrible predicament.
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>>183866193

BUT BUT BUT ANON RANDUM XD IS GOOD FOR THE GAME.
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>>183864494
Quest and Tony synergie
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>>183866273
But you need Bolvar to be in your hand right from the start to start buffing him. By the point you can play him, even a Stonefist ogre
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>>183866409
shes pretty cute...
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It really does feel like they're afraid of creating strong cards, perhaps being too cautious of releasing something broken that they'll have to give a dust refund back on.
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Think about it
If Hunter got this legendary related to secrets, we might get a new good secret or two in this set. I wouldn't judge until the rest of the set is revealed. I mean, what good ones do we have now? Explosive/Freezing Trap and Cat Trick. That's it. Bear Trap and Misdirection are crap.

They wouldn't make a new secret based Hunter legendary if we only have those five secrets to choose from.
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>>183867343
>blizzard adds a new hunter secret that is good
Yeah if they do that why the fucking would you run this retarded card when all its good for is ruining fucking tempo?
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>>183867298
most likely they realised idiots will always buy their shit no matter what they release. Im glad i havent bought anything i 1 and a half year
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Most disliked card thus far?
Most liked?
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>>183867298
they literally said in an interview that they don't want to play it too safe with creating cards, because an entire set of safe cards would be boring as hell. get ready for some crazy shit once the reveal season really ramps up
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>>183867575
Lana'thel cause i loved her and they made her useless

None
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>>183867540
I'm not saying the card is good.
I'm saying that this is proof that they want to push Secret Hunter, and if the new Secret(s) is good, then it might see some play. Add in a few more decent minions and it might actually be a good deck.
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>>183867042

The difference here is that he doesn't require you to discard a hand and a half before he's useful. How many cards are you going to need to draw and not face fuck yourself to discard that many? 10? 15? More? All the while running the risk of tossing the bitch in the trash when you play your doomguard?

If you go the dream scenario and play this card on 5 what the fuck are you getting? A 5 mana 5 6? That's vanilla stats. You get 5 life back if they don't have some sort of spell or hard removal? Woo fucking hoo?

What a finisher for an aggro deck that has NO FUCKING AGRO.
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>>183867575
most "liked" is probably the warrior weapon because it's not terrible.

You know what the worst is, anon.
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>>183867636
thats the most shill post ive seen today. Like genuine shilling not even shilling to meme. Must be Kibler
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>>183867667

There isn't a single hunter secret in the game right now that can call itself good anymore thanks to power creep. Not one.

Even if this secret is fucking amazing, this card is still going to be subpar. Being a legendary there just isn't enough of it to be anything close to consistent, it doesn't come out until it's too late, and unless you are just running this unicorn secret you run the risk of just getting regular shit secrets.

I'm sure this card will be ran, if only because hunter has nothing.
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>>183867738
I'm not a shill, I just remember reading the interview where they said, "we don't want to create an entire set of safe cards." moving forward from that leads to the natural conclusion that they must have some ridiculous cards that have yet to be revealed. at least I hope so. if a fucking 3 mana conditional faceless manipulator is their idea of "crazy" then you can freely disregard everything I just said
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>>183867343
Snake is also a good card, the general consensus on secrets to run right now are 2 Explosive 2 Snake 2 Cat

I miss Arcane Golem so much
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Oh look its the garbage brothers one fucking requires you to have him in your starting hand to be useful while not having 2 mana cards in your deck and the other requires you not have and 3 mana cards in your deck just to do the same shit faceless manipulator does except for two less mana and on a very situation status that can and will most likely lead to just being a dead weight top deck


>>183867667
but why would people play secret hunter when budget hunter wins by turn 7 at worst
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I want to see more paladin cards. although what's the bet there'll be some kind of undead murloc?
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>>183867636

They said this about every set, that they are trying something different to shake shit up. So far discover is the only mechanic I can think of that does this. So far the only mechanic I've seen talked about is lifesteal, and that shits been in the game since GVG.
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>>183867983
Third brother will be paladin legendary with condition that your deck has no 4 drops
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>>183867983
MORE LEGENDARIES DUDE! And with the new system we are implementing that will narrow legendaries pulled, of course we are going to include a few shitty one.
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>>183867667
>Add in a few more decent minions and it might actually be a good deck.
the secrets themselves isn't the problem. it's the fact that you have to manually draw all of them.
paladin secrets were seen as useless until they got a card that would automatically play them. hydrologist is in damn near every paladin deck now, because it immediately gives you a secret instead of waiting to draw one.
secrets are way too situational to be good with plain draws. it's too slow.
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>Rogue has had exactly 2 viable decks its entire existence
>Miracle Rogue, which are essentially the same deck but swapping out wincons when they get nerfed
>Quest Rogue, which is now nerfed and unplayable
>Blizzard is all but confirmed for removing Gadgetzan Auctioneer in the next rotation

What is Rogue going to do? They're going to have no viable decks when Gadgetzan is gone. They keep trying to add in these bullshit gimmicks for them, but they never work. Quest Rogue only worked because just like Miracle Rogue, it's a combo deck that destroys control and loses to aggro. They're the same type of deck.

Rogue is a combo class, and it is clear Blizzard does not want combos.
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>>183867983
Wouldn't Prince Keleseth be decent in Zoolock? If you hard mulligan for him, you've got either an 8 or a 10/30 chance of dropping him turn 2, and a 10/30 or 12/30 chance turn 3. You lose some decent tools, but especially in wild, there are enough 1 and 3 mana minions to make up for them. And if you drop him t2, that's pretty much game.
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>>183868076
HAHAHA Its so bad it's probably true!
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>>183867983
"Budget Hunter" is a crappy deck as well and slightly below the powerlevel of >>183867964 imho tbqhwyf, not so crappy that it's not legend viable though
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>>183868076
God that would be so shitty it would legitimately be a completely unplayable card considering that there is no such thing as a Paladin deck with no 4-drops.
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>>183868076
Im laughing at how fucking horrible this fucking expansion is like even the valkyr sister from TGT had a spot in priest decks

These guys are just fucking garbage like the +1/+1 guy is exactly like "the mistcaller" shaman card and that card wasnt even as situational but still didnt see fucking use because building your deck around one card has always been a retarded thing to do.

>>183868171
>implying any of the legendaries shown so far have been good

>>183868232
No the problem is hunter already lost his secrets bows from nerf and the reason secret paladin worked is because it was PLAYED ON CURVE and pulled all you secrets from your deck onto the field.

Even when he had mad scientist he was played because he pulled a random secret on curve cost

This fucking hunter card when played on curve doesnt even fucking play a secret and even if it lives to see another turn it fucking plays RANDOM SECRETS so you are at the fucking whim of rng if its actually doing to be good or not. Not to fucking mention GOOD hunter decks end the game by turn 6-7
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>>183868319

You forgot Oil rogue that got nerfed so hard everyone forgot the card existed
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>>183868319
Aggro Rogue was a tier 1 deck last xpac anon and has roots back to classic.

Also, Miracoli would likely survive without Gadgetzan even. Rogue surviving js honestly one of the things I'm least worried about, although obviously I'd like some more sweet tempo minions
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>>183868336
Yeah, Keleseth is playable in Warlock and only Warlock, and even then probably only in Wild, and again, even then there are probably better Warlock decks that just use their 2-drops.

The effect is too slow for the restriction it imposes on you. If it also buffed the minions in your hand then maybe it would be good but as is it's just kinda slow and not that good for what you need to do to use it.
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>>183868530
Im still salty that they nerfed the fuck out of blade flurry when it was oil that needed the nerf
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>>183868530
Oil Rogue was essentially like a miracle deck that combo'd out your opponent with ~20 damage burst.

That is my point, they're combo or bust and they get nerfed every time they pop up.

>>183868593
>Aggro Rogue was a tier 1 deck last xpac
?????????????????????????????
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>>183868319
You Roguefags say this every fucking expansion.
Seriously, literally EVERY FUCKING TIME, you say "Wah! Rogue is going to be unplayable this expansion!". Then when the expansion comes out Rogue has at least one top tier competitive deck. EVERY. FUCKING. TIME.

Stop it. Just stop whining fucking Roguefaggot.
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>>183868597
>he is not in starting hand
>mulligan
>he is not in starting hand
>he is in the bottom 10 cards of your deck

Useless pos card
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>>183868657
But anon Blade Flurry was so limiting! They couldn't print good Rogue weapons because of it!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>183868336

Not really. For multiple reasons, the biggest being only minions IN YOUR FUCKING DECK YOU ILLITERATE get the buff. Meaning you are in top decking mode in the very best of situations.

That's not even mentioning losing your two drops, which Zoolock is typically loaded with and it makes using your hero power and playing cards awkward on even turns AND Warlock hero power is as close to trash tier as draw a card can be since so many classes have frankly excellent card draw mechanics.

So no. The answer is no.
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>>183868727
and its always immediately nerfed so stfu and let them complain
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>>183868482
>it was PLAYED ON CURVE and pulled all you secrets from your deck onto the field.
thats exactly what im saying anon. you can't wait for secrets because they're too situational. you need them at the right moment or they become basically useless
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>>183868746
>He's in starting hand
>Coin him out t1
>Win the game
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>>183868727
I didn't say this expansion, anon. I said when the ROTATION happens, which is at the end of the year.
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>>183868673
>he didn't farm legend with water rogue

Honestly one of my favorite all time decks, there were some wacky tech choices too like Jungle Panther, Shadow Sensei, Curator, etc.
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>>183868076
>no Consecration or Truesilver in a paladin deck
It's almost bad enough to seem like something Blizz would actually do
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>>183868746
Yeah but it's not the worst thing ever in Warlock because Warlock often uses hero power on turn 2 anyway because drawing a card for your turn 2 is perfectly acceptable most of the time.

No other class can afford to hero power turn 2 regularly except for Warlock and Rogue (but Rogue wouldn't play Keleseth because he's way too slow and does nothing for Rogue's playstyle).
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>>183868887
>he is not in in starting hand
>he isnt on first draw
>he isnt in hand on turn 2
>concede

Hmm i bet you must think astral communion decks are the most op thing in this game
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>>183868898
So you mean when there's been another entire expansion full of cards?
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>>183868950
but warlock has worthwhile 2 mana cards that he could have in his deck instead
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>>183868887
>play minions
>mage freezes your board
>lose the game
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>>183869086
Hence my first post saying that it's playable only in Warlock and probably only in Wild and even then it's probably better to just use 2-drops.

However it's still a playable card in Wild Warlock decks, especially if you enjoy high-roll shit where getting him in your opening hand pretty much wins you the game.
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>>183869207
>designing cards for standard that only work in wild

thanks blizzard
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>mfw I really want to craft Pyros because cool fire bird but I only have 1600 dust and the expansion is around the corner
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>>183869207

Any card is technically playable in any deck, if anything this card fits into warlock the least of any class since warlocks are so reliant on their hero power and losing two mana cards makes using it consistently immensely awkward.
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don't mind me, just designing better cards than ben brode and his pack of retards.
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>>183869414
>t. cygames
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so when is the second week of ahune arena gonna start? its already fucking Wednesday
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>>183869363

>tfw was a jew with my dust until un'goro and had 28k and the expansion showed promise so i crafted everything i wanted day 1 and got burnt out in a week

Now I'll only have 7k dust for KFT
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>>183869634
I feel you.

Had 13k before un'goro and currently sitting at 8. I might just craft tarim and a vilefin, though.

Make that 6.
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>>183853514
yes i would use that overpowered card
it's a better dirty rat that can be tutored
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How many pieces/steps would an exodia win condition need to be balanced in HS?
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>>183869825
is that todd howard
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>>183870018
mage quest retard
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>>183869869

>Better dirty rat

Retard alert.
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>>183870049
everything is an illusion
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>>183870056

>I don't know the difference between an extra turn win condition to a victory mechanic.
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>>183870258
mage quest retard
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What beats pirate warrior? I need to counter que these fucks.
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8 trillion people on my friends list, nobody online.
Anyone wanna help me with watch and learn?
NA #1856
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>>183870403
Faster pirate warrior
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>>183870403

Pirate warrior with anti pirate warrior tech.
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>>183870406
sent
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"Can't be targetted by spells or hero powers" for heroes fucking when???
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>>183870591
It'd have to be on a minion that couldn't be TOO hard to remove for its price, or it'd be broken filth
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>>183870648

t. Jaina
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>>183870098
you can't tutor a dirty rat to deny a win condition
only targets minions (there's other types of cards in the game btw)
a random minion
you can use both, yknow :o
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8 mana 1/1: Immune

Would it see play?
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>>183870406
Anyone?
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>>183870869
>8 mana dreadsteed
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>>183870880
You have to post your actual battletag.

Unless you actually named yourself NA
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>>183870869
So shitty dreadsteed? Or does Immune means immune to silence too?
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>>183870869

If memesteed didn't see play at 4, what makes you think it will at 8?
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>>183870962

Dreadsteed loses buffs on death.
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>>183833663
SOOOOOOOOOO MUCH
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>>183870965
Oh fuck I didn't see I messed my shit up.
NA Tekdrake#1856
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>>183871097
>Immune
>Can spellcast on it.

Ok...? So it can get silenced just like Dreadsteed?
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That moment when Hs new expansion has 4 legendaries revealed, 3 of them are just garbage

>IT'S GOING TO BE GREAT GUYS, BUY OUR PACKS
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>>183871391

Don't forget that the one that doesn't look like garbage is trying to force a meme archetype and 95% of the time won't survive a turn to allow you to use its effect
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Who /preorder/ here?

Kind of hyped honestly. They obviously went with the not so good cards first. The rest will be much better.

Not only are the developers seasoned veterans, legend players and professionals, but they're obviously passionate about making games or else they wouldn't have fought to get a job at blizzard at all.
btw. Getting unique art on cards for you preorder would be quite nice.
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>>183871623
I play this game when it's slow at work so it kind of pays for itself. Always spend ~$120 per expansion.
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>>183871623
Agreed. A+ post!
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>tfw I wrote a long post about how disgustingly OP putricide can be
>then I re-read the card text and realized that it puts a random secret on the battlefield rather than puts a random secret in your hand
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>First TGT
>Now KoFT
Why all HS expansions related to Wrath are shit?
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>>183871623
>he preordered
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>>183871248
>spikeridge into adapt can't be targeted
>invincible taunt meme dream
Doesn't help you would be dead by aggro then though.
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>>183871248

Immune is like stealth, you can target, enemy can't.
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>>183871954

See

>>183871954
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>>183871865
Because Wrath of the Lich King was shit and only wrathbabbies like it. It was literally the downfall of WoW.
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>>183871865
will team 5 disappoint us with the arthas card or will they chicken out and not even make one. find out in a month
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>>183872152

They are holding off on the Arthas card until they are really desperate to save Hearthstone
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>>183869414

r8
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Exodia mage feels so good. It feels like I have complete control and every decision matters. But I think the other player feels the exact opposite of that. Oh well. Freezy freezy, drawy drawy.
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>>183872152
Expansion is set to release on the 10th
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>>183872216

You're the reason I play mill from time to time.
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>>183872214
would never see play
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>>183824473
this legendary is so bad.
going to need a spell that's something like '1: draw a card whenever you discard a card. if you discard this card, draw a card' if they want this lakarri sacrifice shit to actually work
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>>183872363
Already exists in the form of a 1 drop 1/3.
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>>183872207
Surprised they're even going back to established characters for legendaries after a whole expansion of OCs. Thought that and even MSG only having like two actual names from WoW made it clear they were moving on entirely with their own 'canon'

I'm still bitter that the best character in Un'Goro Crater didn't actually get a card
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>>183872219
? was that announced or found out by the forwarding the clock
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>>183872391
Hemet's a real NPC in WoW.
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>>183872323

>Vanilla stats that saves your ass for the rest of the game if it lives a turn.

Its tech for sure, but saying it would never see play is exaggerating
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>>183872425
okay. it might see play in some arena decks.
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>>183867575
Most disliked is Ticking Abom, fuck that niche bullshit
I guess I like Lana'Thel most, the idea of lifesteal for a warlock sounds pretty good
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>>183872363
3 mana spell
lifesteal
Deal 1 damage to a character for each card you discarded this game.
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>>183872391

DRAGON!
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>>183872421
Oh yeah, ONE WoW character. Who already had a card.
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>>183872391
Your local OCfag has you covered.
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>>183872391
literally who

>added in cataclysm
never mind
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>>183872457

bitch, i'd put it in every deck I own just in the off chance it ruins a freeze mage's day.
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what's funny is that half the cards revealed are definitely playable. so, it's not all that bad. it's just those shit legendaries sticking out like a sore thumb
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>>183826535

If the developers are so smart then why did they release Karazhan?
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Kind of tired of the sore winners that say well met etc when they have lethal... Grow up losers.
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>>183872708
It's only a good thing for players in general if no one needs to dump loads of dust into legendaries to stay competitive. Let's hope the streak keeps up.
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>>183872778
I don't like them either. It's obnoxious. Those people are the reason we should have a toggled auto-squelch.
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>>183833663
I didn't even know this card existed. I started playing around Old Gods release.

This is now going in all my wild decks
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>>183872778
>landslide win via aggro and/or spellvomit on face
>chimps out with emotes

I'm so glad Team 5 designs the game for these people specifically.
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>>183872706
if you wanna ruin freeze mage's day, play quest priest or an aggro deck
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>>183872778
I wish 'Thanks' would get the same treatment as 'Sorry'. Just like Sorry, Thanks is only ever used to gloat and every audio line for it drips with smugness.
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>>183872778
>they emote wow every time you use a simple removal spell

Must be dangerous for one's health to be so salty
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>>183832996
Witcher card game ?
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I fucking love secret mage mirror matches sometimes, holy shit
>Going first, usually sucks ass playing secret
>He blows the coin turn 2
>Play counterspell turn 3
>He plays, loses an Ice Block
>Get another counterspell from primordial glyph
>Two turns later
>He loses another Ice Block
>A few turns later
>Play Spellbender while I have two Sorceror's Apprentices and a Crystal runner sitting in the middle
>He uses meteor
>Secret triggers
>He concedes
The same exact thing could have and has happened to me, but it's still fucking hilarious when it works out like that
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>>183873075
Gwentâ„¢ : The Witcherâ„¢ Card Game
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>>183832996
are they going to be making the game not solitaire?
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>there are people who get upset over inoffensive canned emotes.

Humanity needs to be purged.
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>>183872214

I'm a sucker for "start of the turn" effects so 10/10 in my book.
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>>183873243
>people shouldnt overreact to harmless emotes
>at the same time humanity should be purged because of it

There's only 1 reason to use anything other than well played when beating a random person.
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any bets on prince valanar?
i'm thinking he'll proc off some condition involving 1 drops
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>>183873243
the reason I get upset when conceding is not because I lost, but because it gives my opponent the impression that they're a good player, when they're objectively not. emotes only drive this one-sided validation further.
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>>183872558
>play this only to have it kill itself immediately
>effectively waste 6 mana
Why the fuck?
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>They've already dropped both Hunter Legendary cards
>Both are atrociously bad because Control Hunter still isn't a thing and has just gotten a smattering of decent Control cards every expansion that have no clear identity to them, so Hunters just keep going Smorc
Seriously, what the fuck are they thinking?
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Give her 2 attack per discarded card. Also add one more health on top. Now its at least playable.
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>>183871623

>They obviously went with the not so good cards first

Please present your reasoning
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>>183873763

>I am retarded
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>>183873789
>Dude, Loatheb, except weaker, also affects your Spells, and costs 1 more, but the effect persists! And you can have TWO of them!!
They aren't. They're just printing whatever they feel like because they know people will continue to suck Blizzard cock.
>>183873837
>5 Mana 1/7 Lifesteal has +2 attack for each card you've discarded this game
That would be passable if Gul'Dan gets the only thing that makes Discard a good mechanic.
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>The Lich King
>8 mana 8/8 with taunt, freezes anything it deals damage to
>upon death, gives you a 5/3 Frostmourne that also freezes anything it deals damage to
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>>183872558
that looks a lot like braum from league
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>>183873789
i dont know what they were thinking but i'm thinking
beardo and garrison commanders to build up a hand of beasts. a stupid random fun* deck.
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>>183871623
Those ears
Why does Blizz hire third rate artists ? Where is Chris Metzen ?
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>>183874064
Tirion, but better: The Card
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>>183874217
Exactly. Would make sense, given he was the one who killed him.
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>>183873789
meh, putricide is decent. mostly because hunter has shit for turn four plays. i just hope the random secrets put into play cannot be duplicates of what you already played.
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I have an account in EU with 5k gold, few crappy legendaries, full kara completed and some cards from un'goro and classic. How much money could I get for my account?
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>>183874362
60 bucks
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>>183874362
Ten bucks more or less
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>>183874427
not bad if so but where do I find a buyer?
>>183874440
mate, please, I've invested some time in it
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>>183873789
what's the second hunter lego?
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>>183874337
>Duplicates
Their engine wouldn't allow it. Just like how you can't play a Secret you already have in play.
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>>183874469
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>>183874476
Deathstalker Build a Beast funstuff and the 4-drop.
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>>183874578
yeah, I know about playerauctions, I just wish I didn't have to deal with it and just grab the shekels
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Guess the wins.
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>>183875071
5-3.
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>>183875071
7 minimum or Kys
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>>183875071
>2 1-drops
>3 2-drops
>1 (technically 2) 3-drops
Really, really top-heavy for a Hunter. 2 wins max.
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>>183875161

>1 alleycat
>2 snakes raps
>1 animal companion
>1 Houndmaster
>1 multi shot
>1 explosive shot
>2 weapons
>1 nerubian
>1 swamp king
>1 VOLCANOSAUR
>2 PRIMORDIAL DRAKES
>1 CALL OF THE PIG

>HURR DURR 5 WINS

TOP KEEK
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>be f2p
>only have Blackrock mountain
>some shitty neutral legendaries
>some shitty normal, epic and rares from UnGoro, no legos though
>around 4k saved, 0 dust

should I blow it all on this next expansion or do a 50-50 with ungoro packs?
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Inb4 brode gives discolock broken cards to make kibler look smart
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>>183875161
>>183875167
>>183875270
It's a 12.

Almost got fucked over by the bird in my last game, but the guy was so afraid that my secret was freezing trap so he stopped attacking with the bird and wasted a charge of rallying blade on my face.
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>>183875071

>no elementals for blazecaller
>two clunky piranha launchers you'll never get value out of both
>swamp king ded in arena filled with 2 and 3 mana poison
>corrupted healbot anti-synergy with hero power
>overall average cards outside of that

5-3
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>>183875495
kibler is an asskisser and wrong. The card is terrible It would be terrible EVEN if it was a 5/6 with lifesteal from the start
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>>183875495

>Blood Ritualist
>3 mana 3/4
>Effect: At the end of your turn, discard a card. Shuffle a 1-Cost copy of it in your deck
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>>183874506

>>183874506

>>183874506

buh ->
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>tfw only deck is murloc paladin
i've wanted to play miracle/tempo/aggro rogue for a while but the expansion is just around the corner and i don't want to make a deck that will just get blown out of the water in a few weeks. what's a deck i can make that might hold up for the next meta?
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>>183875905
Why is OP so angry at people for not liking shit cards?
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>>183864526
the problem with discard is that you either play aggro with it or you don't discard your shit at all.
so unless they make one card that can lock the discard effect the entire set will still be unplayable because it just isn't rng worth it.
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>don't like cardgames
>seeing shitty effects aren't fun
any point of playing at least for dailys?
haven't played this since it was released
was going to install it on phone but [spoiler no space like always]
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>>183868887
>Coin him t2
>Get fucked cause you don't have a follow up turn 2
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