/hsg/ - Hearthstone General

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>>183792380
well, maybe warlock will be playable next expansion

warrior card is strongest card released so far

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*woosh 0 mana*

can i cancel my preorder?

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>he preordered

I like discover.

I ran into a mage with double glyph in arena at 9 wins. He played both of them on turn 4 or something, while still at full health. From one he got himself a firelands portal, but from the other he took an ice barrier. Ice barrier in an arena match where he was not in danger of being rushed down. There hardly are worse mage spells to pick, other than something like ice block and shatter, so unless he was offered exactly those, he made a pretty bad play.

Because of that, I ended up outvalueing him because he essentially wasted a card. Thanks discover for being a huge shitter trap.

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>>183792504
>HE PREORDERED

>>183792490
how depressing

>>183792504
>he fell for the pre-order meme

good luck with that

why would anyone place a pre-order when no cards had been released?

>>183792504
>People still preorder.

>>183792380
I repeat what I said in the last thread, this card needed "This card can not be discarded" added to it's card text. As is it's a really shitty draw if you draw it before you've discarded a decent number of cards because every time you discard you have a very real chance of throwing away one of your deck's big synergy cards and obviously you can't play it as a 1/5 or 2/5 or unless you're conceding the game and wanted to get out one last meme before you go.

>>183792708
No because that would completely fucking nerf the mill mechanic.

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>new cards
>nothing meta defining
>just going to be the same old aggro/token cancer

Please rate the power level of these cards in arena.

Ice Block
Bittertide Hydra
Dirty Rat
Gluttonous Ooze
Glacial Shard

Avoid consulting tier lists of any kind before your answer.

>>183792790
>>183792708
Not to fucking mention what the fuck happens if you are at 10 cards and then you draw that card? Well how the fuck are they gonna code in a 11 card exception for that one card if it took them years to fucking add in more deck slots

>>183792832
The warrior weapon could help out against the tokens.

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Cancer confirmed.
1 Blood Razor
2 Spirit Lash
Will be seen from time to time.
3 Plague Scientist
4 Shallow Gravedigger
Maybe?
5 Deathstalker Rexxar
Meme Decks
6 Blood-Queen Lana'thel
7 Chillblade Champion
8 Ice Breaker
FREE DUST
9 Prince Keleseth
10 Ticking Abomination

>>183792832
one or 2 of the death knights will be good but annoying as fuck to play against, thats probably all that will change

>>183792626
>>183792648
I wanna say 'b-but muh cardback' but even that is pretty mediocre.

>>183792913
ice block is ok
the rest is shit

>>183792790
>>183792927
Discard and mill aren't the same thing mechanically speaking. A card that gets milled because you had 10 cards already doesn't count as discarded. If you want proof see Silverware Golem, Fist of Juraxxus and Clutchmother, who all get milled perfectly fine.

So in this sense, the effect "Can not be discarded" would only prevent the card from being discarded by cards that make you discard a card and it could still be milled because milling is not discarding mechanically speaking.

Also no one plays mill.

>>183792913
Hydra
Rat
Shard
Ooze
Ice block

>shitty OC as OP pic

You guys are the wurst

>>183792941
Surely, Garrosh is the one who needs most help to control the board and new weapon to go face with.

>>183793070
no way, this is actually for real

>>183792913
Hydra > Shard > Ooze > Dirty Rat > Ice block

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>>183792832
>even bothering with Umbra
Bitch pls. We all know the REAL Legend-worthy combo.

>>183793073
At least it's mediocre enough to be believable.

>>183792913
>ice block
its good, buys a turn just like constructed
>hydra
its okay, requires a lot of resources from your opponent
>dirty rat
never pick unless you enjoy pulling charged devilsaur
>ooze
its alright, 3 mana 3/3 isnt the worst you can do
>glacial shard
decent elemental activator and the turn one bane of rogues

>>183793070
damn, not what I would have went with but it has some potential

>>183792708
>This card needed "This card can not be discarded" added to it's card text.

Still not good enough. Discard in only ok in zoo because almost all our deck consists of disposable cards. At 5 mana and with no immediate effect, this card has no place in zoo. Zoo doesn't care about its health total anyway.

Discard in control will never work unless you get to choose every card you discard. It is never ok to discard key cards like jarraxus, shadowflame, burst or combo pieces. Even if the walock hero card is an op discard synergy control card, you can just casually discard it away beforeyou get to play it.

Someone needs to write "discard will never work" on a mallet and repeatedly beat Brode on the head with it.

>>183792913

3/10
7
5
7
7

>>183793070
WTF Blizzard

>>183792913
>good tier: ooze, shard
>wrong format tier: rat, hydra, block

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New draenei cards when

Getting back into HS after like 6 months. Are hunter aggro decks still around? If so which cards are essential for it in UnGoro and Whispers?

>>183792913
Shard = Hydra >>> Ooze >> Ice Block > Rat
Shard is literally in all situations
Hydra is the strong but can be dead card
Ooze is situationally good to average
Ice Block just delays your death for one turn
Dirty Rat will lose the game for you

>>183792957
I can't actually see Spirit Lash being good. I hope they support Combo Priest in Standard more, though- really the only priest deck I've ever thoroughly enjoyed

>>183793383
>Hunter in Un'goro meta.

lul

>>183793070
Arthas getting a bad ass board clear deathrattle would be sick, but most likely would be seen as too slow.

>>183793269
Well in my original post I did say 'at a minimum' it needed a "can not be discarded" clause. It probably still wouldn't be a playable card in serious competitive but it would make for some fun as fuck memes with Deathwing considering you could play Deathwing with it in your hand and still be guaranteed a decent sized minion to throw down next turn due to all the buffs it got from you discarding the rest of your hand.

>>183793383

Whispers:

Un'Goro:
Crackwhore Razormaw
Jewish Macabre

>>183793383
>Are hunter aggro decks still around?
Yes, though less pure face and more 'midrange'.
>If so which cards are essential for it in UnGoro and Whispers?
Pretty much any of the good small beasts.

>>183793369
Hydra can win you the game by itself, not weak by any measure.

>>183792380
I stopped playing this game long ago, but just saw this card in the OP on the catalog.

Is Blizzard unironically still trying to force the discard mechanic on Warlocks? Has nobody told them that a RANDOM discard mechanic where you can't choose the discarded card simply can not work in a competitive card game unless you make the card effect broken?

DK Gul'Dan in the comic looks like the grim reaper, walking around with his scythe and shit
And judging by the leak his hero card will cost 10 mana so his hero power is gonna be insane.


You do realise its going to be

>2 Mana
>Summon a random minion you've discarded this game

Or worse

>Discover and summon a minion you've discarded this game

>>183792380
>tfw they missed the boat and could have given this effect to lich king bolvar to further cement himself in the useless hearthstone hero tier

>>183793269
>Even if the walock hero card is an op discard synergy control card, you can just casually discard it away beforeyou get to play it.
Exactly the problem unless they give the warlock hero card quest priority where it's always in your opening hand and costs 0 mana.

>>183793383
It was the budget meme for the past month or so thanks to Toast
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2TlqswALdg

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>>183793478
> I can't actually see Spirit Lash being good

>>183793070
Arthas isn't a name used for the Lich King after he became the Lich King, if you're going to make fake cards at least try

>>183793382
No matter how sexy they are, making the Draenei space aliens was a mistake. They were better as ugly shadow assassins.

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>>183793687
I'm waitin' for them to print a new Rager card.
They're overdue and it seems like the theme of the expansion lines right up with the mediocrity.

>they're STILL pushing the discard lock bullshit

FUCK OFF BRODE YOU ABSOLUTE CUNT

DISCARD IS A HORRIBLE MECHANIC

>>183793746
the problem is it priest generally dont carry spell power anymore and maelstrom portal works great on shaman simply because spell power is easily accessible

>>183793607
The last expansion had all the Warlock's cards focusing on either spending your health to cast spells or discard mechanics. As you can imagine it hasn't gone well.

>>183793614
If Guldan has a "resurrect" of sorts, what will the Priests be then?

>>183793746
That summons a mealstrom

The only use I see it in is with evolved kobold for Hueg aoe + Hueg heal

>>183793614
> his hero power is gonna be insane
All discarded cards get +1/+1.

>>183793817
They were stuck in what to do with the lore after having the world be totally destroyed like three times.
'space aliens' is the next clear step in the theme of Fantasy.

>>183793875
It's going to be a Paladin card.
>Divine Rager
>3 mana 5/1 Divine Shield.

Basically the same concept as Shadow Rager for Rogue, take Magma Rager, make it a class card then slap an appropriate keyword on it. Or maybe it'll be a Priest card with Lifesteal or something.

Reminder Warlock has never had good cards and the only reason it was a thing before was because of the hero power and OP neutral card.

Now that all OP neutral cards have been rotated out Warlock will forever be trash because Blizzard is too retarded to understand that Warlock calls cards are too weak

>>183793746
>gets a body on the board
>in a class that can pull Spell Power out of its ass
>doesn't hit your own board

>>183794004
WOW GREAT MY DISCARDED CARD GOT +1/+1 IF ONLY I WAS STILL ABLE TO USE THE CARD

Blood Queen LaShitty is seriously the worst legendary they've printed since Boogiemonster

God I hope I don't open it

>>183794121
>>183793875
>Hellfire Rager
>2 Mana 5/1 Battlecry: Discard a card

fits with the theme of warlock being shit

>>183794121
Maybe a 3 mana 2/5 divine shield?

Place your bets on how Frostmourne is going to work.

Will it be a neutral legendary weapon?

What stats and effects will it have?

>servers down
>only shitty cards revealed
>all hype for expansion dead
good job blizzard

>>183793539
I reluctantly fell for the Deathwing - Warlock quest meme after unpacking the quest. I thought it would be a "fun as fuck meme" until I realized things lined up exactly as I wanted like 1 in 20 games. 19 concedes for 1 game of average meme was not worth it.

>>183793073
anon...
http://www.hearthpwn.com/cards/61814-blood-queen-lanathel

>>183794348
>Enemies damaged by this weapon are frozen. Deathrattle: Resummon this weapon

>>183794348
Arthas will probably have Deathrattle: Equip Frostmorne and be neutral

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ITT: autists judging cards before all of them are revealed.

>>183794348
>Lich King
>7 mana 6/7 Battlecry: Equip Frostmourne

>Frostmourne
>6/3
>Resummon any minion killed by this weapon on your side of the board

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>Blizzard ruined my bossfu

BROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODE

>>183793614
>Play a 10 mana card in a discard deck
>Randomly discard it before you can play it in 9 out of 10 games

>>183792380
>not a demon
cmon at least make her synergies with other lock stuff

>>183793050
>>183793065
>>183793209
>>183793272
>>183793369
These are all wrong.

>>183793181
This is pretty close.

>>183793435
This is the correct answer.

Shard and Hydra are both good cards. Which one is better depends on your class (with hydra being worse in classes that use health as a resource so rogue/warlock) and deck. 5 mana 8/8 can be very hard to deal with, and can win games outright similar to Fel Reaver before. Freeze effects can be surprisingly strong when good trades are essential.

Ooze is an okay card. 3/3 statline for 3 isn't strong, and it won't hit a weapon too often, except rogue's hero power. Much different from constructed, where destroying Atiesh/Ashbringer can be very valuable tempowise, or destryoing an arcanite reaper that might help you stabilize.

Reasoning for ice block is basically there. It delays your death for one turn, but because you generally have no good way to stabilize or burn your opponent down after your ice block is triggered, you usually die anyway. If you had spent the 3 mana on something that actually affected the board, maybe you could've won.

Dirty Rat loses you games. Unlike in constructed where it can pull opponent's win condition out of their hand, in arena, all it does is pull out one of their cards for free that they were probably going to play anyway. It's not even good if you pull a big guy and have removal in hand for it. They could've wasted their entire turn playing it only to have it easily removed resulting in massive tempo loss, but instead you let them play it for free.

>>183794348
It'll be what you get when Arthas is either summoned or dies. It'll be a 5/3, same as Ashbringer.

Personally I'd like to see "minions killed by this weapon are summoned to your side of the board".

>>183792493
Infinite value you mean

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Discardlock is the epitome of what makes HS such a shit game. It's not fun to play, when you win it feels like it was just luck, when you lose it feels like it was just luck.

Reminder they killed Handlock for this.

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>>183794121
>3 mana 5/1 Divine Shield
That's actually a decent card though.
I got a funny one. How about...
>'Rager Hand Recruits'
>spell, 3 mana of course
>'This turn, Silver Hand Recruits you summon are 5/1 Elementals'
Hm, might still be too useful in Dude Paladin.

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here he is boys

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>>183794595
i want handlock and traditional (non discard) zoo back so badly
but that'll never happen if blizzard keeps pushing disco shit and "take 10 damage for a mediocre effect xd" cards

>>183794698
Quarterager
3 mana 1/5
Battlecry: Transform all your silverhand recruits into magma ragers.

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>tfw this is the only decent card they've revealed so far

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stat him

>>183794348
Lich King will be a 10 mana 5/6 with "Deathrattle: Become the Lich King" which replaces your hero (but does not change your life total but instead works like the newly introduced Hero cards), changes your hero power, gives you armour equal to the Lich King minion's original health and gives you Frostmourne, which is a 4/3 weapon.

>>183794889
It's not real.

>>183794348
It'll be like Tirion + Arthas will be a Paladin legendary.

>>183794889
this is fake right? this is one of the laziest designs i've ever seen, it's literally just aberrant berserker

>>183794725
Fucking hell you can't be serious

>>183794889
That one was fake.

>>183794519
You have to make it so Frostmourne can't attack heroes then.

>>183792380
Didn't her bossfight involve members of the raid being mindcontrolled and getting ridiculous damage buffs while fighting for her?
They should have made that her gimmick instead of discard mechanics.

>>183794982
As a Paladin player I would love it if Arthas was a Paladin legendary but I think it's only fair if he's neutral because lots of people like Arthas and he as a rule doesn't really have loyalty to anyone.

That being said, I'd also enjoy him being a Jaraxxus style card.

>>183795089
She bites a random player giving them a 100% damage buff for some time, after the buff fades, you need to go bite someone else or you become MC'd.

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what the fuck is this art

>>183793607
>Has nobody told them that a RANDOM discard mechanic where you can't choose the discarded card simply can not work in a competitive card game unless you make the card effect broken?

This. Discard mechanics didn't work in Magic either until they got rid of random discards. Discarding a random card is about as bad as discarding two and a half chosen cards. Nothing is worth it, nothing.

They really should change every discard card in HS to read "discard the leftmost card in your hand" so you can at least plan a little bit.

>>183795089
team5 gives no shit about the lore. Also the mechanic you're describing seems harder to pull of than the generic shit we got.

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Any have this problem on login? It just sits there not doing anything with this white block on the screen.

>>183795326
looks like the infinity edge from league

>>183795441
maintenance nigga, like every week

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This card is sleeper OP

Warrior has SO many uses for whirlwhind effects literally 80% of the class cards synergize with it and you're getting 2 whirlwinds to clean up boards while your acolyte/frothing/brave/armorsmith/battle rage etc get value

>>183795443
literally looks nothing like infinity edge you fucking racist

>>183795326
>literally shopped low-res background

>>183795441
server maintenance, ends in an hour

>https://twitter.com/temporeynad/status/721032350423879685

Remember when "pros" used to make bold predictions. Now they're all middle of the road fags because they don't want ot look stupid anymore.

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Are you ready for the leach king?

>>183795326
We're reaching Yu-Gi-Oh levels of bad art

>>183795586
that's unplayable garbage

>>183795503
Maybe if control warrior becomes viable. Too bad other control decks shit out constant value from discover effects while warriors have nothing.

>>183795586
not too bad

>>183795503
>This card is sleeper OP
>Warrior has SO many uses for whirlwind effects

Not relevant ones, not in the current meta for a few expansions now. There isn't a single relevant Warrior deck that even plays the actual Whirlwind card for example.

>>183795586
literally unplayable

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>>183795752

>>183795636
>>183795752
Keep in mind that this card reenables the alex + grom 2 turn combo

Being able to hold onto the whirlwind is what made death's bite so good

I think the classic control warrior setup of lots of removal + late game bombs is back

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>>183795636
> warriors have nothing

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>>183795326
What the fuck are they doing? They could literally just steal the TCG art like they've been doing for the past 4 years

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>>183795089
Silly that would require actual effort

>>183795868
Was referring to control warrior.

>>183795901
they're running out of art

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>>183795326
Meanwhile what item art looks like in good card games.

>>183795586
I won't be happy unless Arthas and The Lich King are different cards. Or at least if it's something like this.

>Arthas
>7 Mana 5/6
>Deathrattle: Summon The Lich King

>The Lich King (Summoned by Arthas Deathrattle)
>7 mana 5/6
>Lifesteal

>>183795985
>tfw HS will never have good card art like Magic or Gwent

Fuck this bullshit "cartoon" style

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here we go

>>183792380
This would be ok with a Charge text.

>>183796097
Literally a worse Pyroblast

>>183796097
That is complete garbage.

>>183796097
literally the worst card ever created. I bet you thought that was a good idea

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LOL

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How memey would you rate this arena?

>>183796467
source?

Brode has fucking lost it, this expansion looks shit tier

>reddit wants DK theme? then lets give it to them with a load of unplayable trash since they will lap it up and preorder regardless

>>183796467
That's some weird ass text. A 3/3 copy of what minion?

>>183796467
It's real

Dog just called it "one of the worst cards I've ever seen" on stream

>>183796467
Seems retarded enough to be true.

>>183796467
This looks terrible, what's the point? Wait, isn't this actually a worse Faceless Manipulator as a legendary?

>>183796467
Fucking what. What is the point of this card even. This looks like a really shitty oc.

>>183796601
http://www.hearthpwn.com/news/3027-prince-taldaram-the-hearthpwn-frozen-throne-card

>>183796612
It's basically a 3 mana faceless manipulator that's 3/3. So a worse faceless and it's a legendary

>>183796467
Are they trying to one up TGT on the shittiness scale? So glad I didn't preorder. This set is shaping up to be hot garbage.

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>>183796467
Right when you thought that cards can't be even shittier.

>>183796767
Actually, you can probably make more combos with it this being a 3 mana card, but you have to sacrifice your 3drops for it.

>>183796467
Why is this dog shit game so inconsistent with its wording? I have no idea what this card does from the text alone.

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>>183796467
The synergy

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>>183796467
>yfw they're making 90% shit legendaries on purpose so you'll have to buy a gorillion packs to get the 10% legendaries that are actually playable

>>183796467
>3/3 angry chicken
literally broken, blizzard has outdone themselves

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>>183796467

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APOLOGIZE

>>183796467
Okay, let's try to make this good.

LIST CARDS THIS WOULD ACTUALLY WORK WITH

>>183797008
You can't even dust them for fear of pulling them again.

>>183796467
So when I draw this it becomes a random minion but with 3/3 stats?

>>183797095
'i'm sorry you're so shit'

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>he preordered this shit

>>183796467

One thing I don't get is why aren't they showing any actually exciting cards. How are they expecting to make preoder money when they lead out with this garbage?

Seeing shit like this and the warlock legendary definitively doesn't make me want to preoder

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>he preordered

>>183797137
it works like faceless manipulator, except with 3/3 stats

>>183797225
>it works like faceless manipulator,
How would you know? The wording is completely different from Faceless.

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>>183796467
Are there any degenerate combos enabled by having a 3 mana faceless?

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>he preordered

Why is Kripp always like a fucking bobblehead in his YT vids?

Fucking Princes
They made Prince Malchezaar into shit

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My stupid OC was way better than the pile of shit we're about to get. God damn.

>>183797097
>malygos
>archmage
>tirion (kinda)
>sherazin
>velen
>emperor
>auctioneer
>either ragnaros
none of these are even that good tho

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>He preordered

>>183797097
>>183796467

>Leeroy cold blood cold blood
>This

14 + 11 = 25 charge damage for 10 mana.
Unless it doesnt copy the stat buffs. Then, I got nothing

Other than, I dunno, copying shit with deathrattles like spikeridged steed?

>>183797335
He's way better than these new garbo princes

>>183797284

double auctioneer at 9

>>183797448
it doesn't copy the buffs, it'll always be a 3/3

it's literally worse than faceless

>>183797463
>going double auctioneer

>>183797448
>Unless it doesnt copy the stat buffs.
>a 3/3 copy
hmmmmmmmmm

>>183797448
Rogue is king of 3 cost minions. This will never see play in rogue

What is the single best card in Hearthstone, like what is Hearthstones Black Lotus?

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>>183796467
Malygos innervate Prince -> moonfire moonfire for 24 damage

When have they ever printed two legendaries for one hero with the same gimmick/playstyle in the same set? I bet warlock Hero won't have anything to do with discarding.

>>183796970
What did you not understand? If your deck has no 3 cost minions this card becomes a copy of a minion with stats 3/3, for instance: if it copies Scavenging Hyena it will be a 3/3 with the same effect of the hyena

>>183796467
What if they end up eating all of the neutral legendary slots with shitty cards like this.
>If your deck has no X-cost cards, do X

Then no one uses any of them because they're all trash except the 9-cost one that turns out really good because only having 1 9-cost card in your deck is a good thing and it has a really powerful effect.

>>183797097
Tirion , Archmage i really don't know

>>183796467
Angry chicken meta boys here we fucking go

malygos druid
>only deck without any 3 drops
>turn 10 malygos + innervate + taldaram
>double moonfire for 22

>>183797595
Patches The Pirate

>>183796258
I apologize

This is the worst card >>183796467
ever

>can't get duplicate legendaries
>can't disenchant bad legendaries for fear of opening them again
>fill the expansion up with a dozen unplayable meme legendaries

blizzard scammed us

>>183797715

back to /a/ with you

>>183797595
pre-nerf buzzard

>>183797008
>mfw I will craft the only 2-3 actually good legendaries with the dust I have diligently built up since Karazhan
>mfw I didn't preorder

>>183797751
i mean...the entire game is a scam, why are you surprised by this

>>183797823
if we are doing prenerfs then nothing beats the value of undertaker.

Jesus that card was amazing

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Man.... even ESL doesn't make cards that are that bad.

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>>183792380
>he preordered

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>random people on the internet can make better cards than the brode team
how do they manage to do it?

>>183797595
no card in HS has reached that power level, yet
The equivalent of Black Lotus would be if Wild Growth cost 0 mana and gave 3 crystals

>>183797635
It doesn't say choose like faceless manipulator or mirage caller.

>>183797656
>>183797402
The thing is: Why would you not use a faceless instead?

It feels like the only point to the card is that it would enable some 1/1 or something cards to become much better, but there are no such cards.

Would this card see any play even if it didn't have the 3-drop restriction?

This is hilarious.

>>183796467
>This is why they rotated Sylvanas and Ragnaros

Needn't have bothered.

What will Prince Valanar do?

>>183797751
>blizzard scammed us

the same company that charges $10 for an alternate hero jpg and rigs your pack contents so you get nothing but ultrasaurs is scamming you AGAIN?

>>183797971
>Kills all tokens
Why not

>>183798048
4 mana 4/4
if your deck has no 4 cost cards, dust this card. dust it even if it does have 4 cost cards.

>>183798048
Battlecry: If your deck has no 1-Cost cards, deal 1 damage to all minions.

>>183796467
They have printed vanilla common pack fillers. Now they print legendary pack fillers, since you can't get duplicate legendaries

This is literally just in the game to make your pack openings shittier so you have to buy more packs

>>183798048
Battlecry: If your deck contains no 4 cost cards, deal 4 damage to your hero.

>>183798163
>Wanting every legendary to be good
>Making every meta deck extremely expensive

>>183798048
4 mana 4/4
If your deck has no 4 cost cards, draw a card. Change its cost to (5).

I'll give it until all the cards are revealed but I think I might be done with this rigged game.

servers are up

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>>183798005
>Would this card see any play even if it didn't have the 3-drop restriction?

This card is better in everyway outside of costing one more mana

>>183798261
>>183798324
Well the 4 mana one might actually be playable if it has a half decent effect since the 4 drop slot is by far the weakest in the game.

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>>183796467
Aggro buff.

>Shieldbearers complain about shitty legendaries when theres only 10 cards out
When will you finally shut the fuck up?

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>>183798163
To be fair, Un'goro had a bunch of shit legendaries too. I even forgot some of these existed.

6 mana 6/6 If your deck has no 6 mana cards summon a RANDOM invention.

>>183798446
which is why they'll just make it a shitty version of an already existing card like the last two

>>183798462
it happened in ungoro, it'll happen in frozen throne too.

I feel really bad for the people that preordered this. Not even memeing. I genuinely feel bad for the anons

>>183798448
Why would aggro not run any 3-cost cards?

So far all legendaries revealed have been shit with hard to meet conditions, guess that's the solution blizzard found in giving people unique legendaries, make sure they are shit so people feel forced to not dust them, feel bad about having shit cards and buying more packs, wew, this expansion looks underwhelming so far.

>>183798002
And I didn't said that you chose what minion to copy with it. I just gave an example of a copy with it.

>>183797751
>can't disenchant bad legendaries for fear of opening them again

this is pure nonsense. The benefit of the new patch is noticeable only in borderline cases where you miss exactly 2 or 3 legendaries from your collection, only one of which is good and the other bad. In all other cases skipping on 400 dust to increase the probability of opening a good legendary from 1/15 to 1/14 is just a poor decision.
Of course that scales with the amount of packs you expect to open. If you have like 100 unopened packs, then maybe your approach makes some sense in the long run

4 Mana 4/4
If your deck has no 4 cost cards, draw a 4 cost card from your deck.

Are we losing any cards when this next expansion releases?

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hero power: discover a card you've discarded this game.

>>183798462
They'll shut up when they're proven wrong hopefully

>>183796467
Really amazing card. I can already think of a few broken combos. Can't believe there are so many shield bearers that think this is terrible. Remember the rogue quest? Eternal shield bearers never learn.

>>183798593
>swirly classic set watermark
retard

>>183798462
Jesus, people as fucking delusional as you actually exist. Getting defensive over a children's card game for the sake of a multi billion dollar company

>>183796467
I guess a 3/3 belcher would be good.

0
PLAYABLE
CARDS
REVEALED

THANKS BRODE

>>183798590
No. Rotation won't be until next year in april.

We stitll have this expansion + the winter expansion to go before that.

>>183798626
>I can already think of a few broken combos

enlighten us

>>183798462
There is nothing reasonable that can come out that makes this card viable>>183796467

>>183798676
>People say the exact same shit before every expansion
Tiring tbqh

>>183798626
>I can already think of a few broken combos

Doubt

>>183798571
Except shitty legendaries like Ozruk are far more likely to come out of a pack than an actual good one, the same way Ultrasaur was a "common rare". It all comes down to the game's secret hidden card ratings again.

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>>183797870

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YOU STILL HAVE TIME TO ADD MY CARD BRODE. FAGGOT.

>>183796467
>Play this and moroes in bloodlust shaman

>>183798324
This actually sounds so stupid it might happen, hopefully they're not retarded enough to print legendary versions of already existing cards without those cards having been rotated out yet.

Who am I kidding, fuck this company.

>>183799017
I don't think the "A" needs to be in capital

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>>183799028
>play a 3 drop with this card that works without 3 drops and stops you from adding more 3 drops to your deck

>>183799132
It could work of that's the only 3 drop

>>183797074

hall of famed to make room for the new and improved version.

>>183798626
>>183798676
>blizz shills using the shieldbearer meme

anyone eu and got to rank 5 its incredibly difficult everytime i pick a counter deck theres always a switch and get a differnt archetype, is there any universal deck to get to rank 5?

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>>183798626
> Murloc Warleader
> Into Prince
Nothing can stop this one

>>183799132
I thought moroes was a 4 drop lol

Also could someone explain the difference between Token Druid and Aggro?

>>183799232
just play casino mage, the more random chances you give the game to rig the match in your favor the better

>>183797595
Mad Scientist or pre-nerf Sylvannas were insanely broken.

>>183799112
a card like this already exists for druid, without the "if your deck"

>>183799370
There is some variant with violet teacher which could be called token I guess. I think it's just two names for the same deck though.

>>183799387
casino mage? I havent heard of that one can you link?

>>183799387
ive been using the decks from data reaper which are slightly better than hearthpwn ones but the matchups are literally different every game you can't be consitent

>>183797971

>this kills the jade druid

This game is pure cuckoldry

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Those new cards. What the fucking shit is going on?

Wasn't Un'Goro supposed to be the "basic"/shit set of this year or is it a Jewish marketing scheme?

>>183799443
gratz you spotted the sarcasm

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>>183798760
>>183796467
If we're talking Wild, this will potentially give Thaurissan comboers a massive boner.
Can't think of a Standard use. I might consult a list to look through.
It certainly is an interesting card, which is better than most of the reveals so far.

>>183799251
If you're not joking, sure, I could see something like that in late-game Murloc combos, such as Finja shenanigans (conditions that make it more likely your 3-cost Warleaders and other cards aren't still in your deck). I mean, sometimes I like to do stuff like Finja+2xBluegill+2xWarleader in an otherwise non-murloc deck as a funny burst play, I might try it with the Prince.

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>haven't played in ages
>wanna play Wild
>start at Rank 25
>first two opponents are poor little scrubs running shit like Silverback Patriarch
>I guess I should take it easy and play some fun decks until Rank 20
>make some memes
>next opponent at Rank 24 is an emote spamming Secret Pally
I see this game still has the most cancerous commnity in existence.

>>183799724
Yeah in Wild with Thaurissan you'll get some INSANE Leeroy and Malygos combos

>>183796467
So it's a shitty faceless manipulator that you need to cripple your deck for.

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> T2 Pyros
> T3 Prince

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So what will the 4 and 5 costs versions of the prince cycle be?

>if you got no 4 cost cards, deal 1 dmg to your enemy
>if you got no 5 costs cards, draw 1 card. it costs 2 more.

>Blizzard still trying to make discard warlock work
Just give up you stupid memers
It's never going to be relevant.

>>183799892
>no secrets
>no iceblock
oh yea epic combo anon

>>183799892
>T4 concede

>>183799892
>there are retards on /hsg/ who actually believe this would be a good play

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we post OC cards that are better than brode's swill.

>>183799892

and then? I mean you got 2 x vanillia 6/6 birds - nice value.

Kinda of shitty if you are already dead on turn 5, because you can't play your secretes.

What minion does it turn into?

>>183799892
>turn 2 2 mana 2/2 do nothing
>turn 3 3 mana 3/3 do nothing
>turn 4 shit cause 4 drops suck
>turn 5 shit cause 5 drops suck
>turn 6 6 mana 6/6 do nothing

Really made me think

>>183799892
I don't get it, what's the idea behind this?

>>183799892
That is incredible!

That is incredible!

>>183800126
The one you select. The minion already has to be on board.

This card is absolute garbage

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I'm still good though, right?

>>183800129
You can do things on turn 4 and 5 retard and the 2/2 and 3/3 can trade. You know, trade? Have you heard of it you fat piece of shit?

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>>183800063

>>183800192

>is at the bottom of your deck

>>183800192
Would still not play, your 2 drop is incredibly important

>>183800246
>he thinks playing a 2 mana 2/2 and a 3 mana 3/3 that literally DO NOTHING is a recoverable board state LUL

>>183800183
If you're talking about prince teledran you're wrong, nowhere it is said that you point on a minion to copy it. It copies a minion from your deck, just like Barnes.

I really hope Ben Brode will sing Despacito... Spanish is literally the best language, I wish I was born in SoCal

>>183798465
The vorax is actually decent just there is only one class that would ever use it and thats paladin

>>183800246
>defending that shitty post this hard

just let it go anon.

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>>183800063
>>183800256

Would you niggers play the PRINCE, if it actually copied BATTLECRY effects (such as Reno, Fire Ele) or would it be still too bad?

KYS custom card cancer

>>183800354
nigga are you retarded?

>>183800523

Then start making good cards Team 5.

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I FOUND DECK THAT DOES NOT NEED 3 DROPS

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>>183799778
It's Wild, you're gonna find cancer and nightmare illusions of old meta decks.
Secret Paladin's not so bad. There's a good amount of ways to get around it and MC's a pretty weak finisher/threat compared to some others.
What sort of fun deck are you going with? I like to just run a full Casino Mage if I don't have any specific plans. It can beat pretty much anything and in a fun way, sometimes.

>>183800192
I like it, actually. Might be cool.
Kind of wish Youthful Brewmasters didn't cost 2.

>>183800661
What are you gonna copy though ?

>>183792380
Holy fuck this is bad. Why?

>>183800750
Ysera or Y'Shaarh

>>183800750
Totems with abilities. 3/3 that draws you a card every turn is nut

>>183800842
If they survive 1 turn you already won

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>memes

The cards are so bad that I'm actually excited again to see what kind of garbage a multi-million dollar team can come up next.

>>183800910
So you only have the minions in your hand and board ?

>>183800863
>Copying a 3 mana card

>>183800910
>that cost 0.

unrealistic. get rid of this and then we'll talk

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>he preordered

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>>183800910
>Have a quester, mana addict or red mana wym live
>tfw play gadgetzan then this
That cant be right, thats too good

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>>183800523

NEVER

>>183801124
Your opponent plays it. How are you running totems in druid?

>>183792708
It's a 5 mana 6 health minion with no immediate effect when entering the field. Even if t had said effect, it would be shit because by turn 5 everyone and their grandmother can remove a 6 health minion. Fucking easily.

It's just a win more card in case you highrolled on your discards and it's 100% useless in every other situation.

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>>183801140
fine

>>183801291
It'd be decent against aggro if it had taunt.

>3/3 tyrone for 3

Once again tards are calling a good card shit

>>183801584
>can't play stonehill defender

Based retard

>>183801270
>Consistency of copying a card from a specific hero on a specific turn with a one of in a deck without 3 drops

>>183801540
Even aggro (except Druid) run some form of removal or spell damage to deal with the already annoying amount of taunts.

>>183801584
>not running stonehill defender
kek

>>183801584
Why not get a 6/6 tyrone for 5?

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>>183801584

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>>183801584
That card is awful. Then they tacked on a restriction.

>>183799817
What new leeroy combos will there be? faceless is already way better for that since you can copy buffs like PO. Copying a charge minion with prince is just giving you a 3 attack charger. You might as well just play Wolfrider and not have to restrict your deckbuilding by a retarded amount.

>>183801745
but anon, now you're getting a 3/3 copy

I seriously want someone from blizzard to explain what they were thinking with the card.

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>go check out Hearthcards to make some OC
>Death Knight still isn't removed as a selectable class for card design
I can hear faint autistic screeching...

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>he preodered

>>183802058
kill yourself

>>183801936
maybe there is a 2 mana minion that says
>If this card has 3 health and 3 attack win the game

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>All these hearthcucks literally want Blizzard to print a card with "fanfare:win the game" instead of using their brain to build a winning deck with the new cards.

Really activating my neuron cells.

>>183802156
Why? I didn't preordered, I have no reason to.

>>183795587
yugioh art is infinitely better than hs art

>>183802195
fuck off brode

>>183797971
That's actually a pretty good card.

>>183796467
I hope you guys preordered

>>183797097
Barnes and Y'Shaarj

>gf preordered for me as a gift
>we break up
>was planning on paying her back
>see cards
Yeah, I'm not paying for these shit cards.

>>183802195
Thing is, we'd really need to know the cards from the whole set in order to do that.
These are really just first impressions. And like with pretty much anything here, containing a cynical spin.

>>183802260
yugimon cards had art? I took too much time reading the card text to notice.

>>183801584
>playing this in paladin
>no longer have access to peacekeeper, warleader, tar creeper, or wickerflame
>no longer have access to stonehill defender, which gives you extra tirions anyways

I know you're just baiting, but I also know there's some retards who unironically agree

>>183802420
You don't copy the battlecry of Barnes though

>>183801640
even druid runs double swipe and double wrath

REMINDER THAT ONE OF YOUR QUESTS IS GOING TO GET FUCKING DESTROYED TOMORROW IF YOUR QUEST LOG IS FULL RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE OF AHUNE' QUEST

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FRESH OC! Rate!

>>183802420
>yfw Barnes summons a 1/1 Prince
Great way to make the combo less consistent. Though, granted, even more hilarious if you actually pull it off.

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>>183800063

>>183802564

>Never finsihed my free GvG Arena Run

I guess I should get on that.