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netdecking edition

>Latest News
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgaBjPyMtXo&feature=youtu.be&t=1m45s

>Deck lists, news etc
hearthstonetopdecks.com
hearthpwn.com
hsreplay.com (Buy Premium For Us)
http://thelightforge.com/TierList (Arena)
vicioussyndicate.com

>Open Tournaments
https://strivewire.com/
http://play.eslgaming.com/hearthstone/
http://zotac-cup.com

old and busted: >>183658743
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You know, if ticking abomination were actually a 4 mana 7/7 it'd actually be acceptable as a first reveal, if only because of memestats
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Give him more money.
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>>183727128
So they had like 20 days to get something ready for the big reveal, and they choose to just reveal one card?
One really shitty niche card?
On some dude's stream noone's heard of?
How can you fuck up momentum this hard?
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I want to stab myself every single day
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>>183727352
Nice meme
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Why haven't you pre-ordered your 50 packs yet?
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>>183727332
They're creating a buzz, no publicity is bad publicity or whatever :^)
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>>183727486
Why are you posting edgy nazi memes on my christian image board?
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>>183727332
Are there really not going to be any reveals this time soon.
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>>183727649
What do you mean nazi means? I'm just a friendly merchant.
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>>183727486
Why haven't they given me a reason to?
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1AM in EU
no new cards
so this is the power... of Ben Brode...
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Feels good
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>>183726613
>>183726770
>>183726959

I just want fast games/wins to get arenas while I wait for new set. If the deck I focus on gets completely invalidated on set release, so be it. At least I'll have some arenas to do while I wait for it.
These are my current decks, they're pretty much the budget decks from hearthstonetopdecks, as far as I could make them on the dust I had prior to disenchanting all my wilds.
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anyone else... just feel like... playign for no reason??..
like open packs and then what... make deck n it gets boring... have gold for arena but it's rng..
myb should stop playing
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>>183727918
... or just carry a fucking identification card
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>>183727128
what the actual fuck OP, you could have done a way better edition than that

>card reveals never edition
or something
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you have 20 years to explain why arcanlogist is fine at 3 hp
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>>183727825
You will never get these 50 packs as cheap as they are now.. Plus you get a fancy, limited cardback. You don't wanna regret missing this extra ordinary offer, do you?
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will Brode continue to stifle deck building creativity by pushing pre-built decks like C'thun and Jade in the new expansion?
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>>183728037
They get compromised regularly and need to be replaced.
The rfid chips are "100% encrypted".
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>>183728037
it's not

>>183728027
>...
fucking stop
and learn how to spell too
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>>183728074
it's only a 2 drop
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>>183728374
>its not
meant for >>183728074
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>>183728118
Ben's looking good tbqh.
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>zeriyahposting has been replaced by brodeposting

What happened to /ourgirl/?
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>>183728118
cthun did nothing wrong
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>streamer acknowledges the message directly below mine in chat
fuck you faggot, don't care what you think anyway.
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>>183728952
no one ever told me what that thing was that was hanging out of her vagina
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So, has the Jaina hero power leaked yet?
My bet is summon a 2/3 elemetal
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>>183727486
Never giving money to Blizzard in Hearthstone again since they killed adventures.
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ayyyyyyy
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GOOD FUCKING MORNING
GODDAMMIT

IT IS MOTHERFUCKING PACKOPENING TIME GODDAMMIT

JUST GOT MY ORDER FROM THE SHOP, GOT MY WOTG PACKS HERE, GOT MY MSOG PACKS OF COURSE, MSOG IS MY FAVORITE, YOU GUYS... I DUNNO IF YOU TRIED MSOG BUT YOU GOTTA TRY MSOG

I'M GONNA SHOW YOU HOW TO MAKE A PROPER PACK OPENING, OPEN SOME WOTG FIRST, THEN FOR YOU F2P PLAYERS OUT THERE WHO ONLY BUY PACKS WITH GOLD ONLY BUY SPEND 200 GOLD, 200 GOLD IS ABOUT 2 PACKS... BUT YOU KNOW, 2 PACKS?
CMON

I DO THE TOP DOSE WICH IS 50 PACKS, BUT YOU KNOW I ALWAYS HAVE TO OVERDO EVERYTHING, RIGHT GUYS?
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>>183730371
for what purpose
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>>183730371
> a useless epic

Epics are rare enough as it is
Come the FUCK on blizzard
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>>183730587
Its almost like they want you to get shitty filler cards as to buy more packs!
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>>183730532
Ticking Abomination of course
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>>183730371
>Chinese with english text
I dont buy, but whats the point of this card? Combo with doomsayer? Its terrible for that mana cost
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>>183730371
>give your opponenet a cairne
>potion of madness it
>kill it
that's really memey
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>>183730371
>already drawn art
either way, thats fucking shadowverse tier combo curving
>tickling abomination t4
>into mirage spellcaster t5
>wipe their whole board and curve out perfectly with adequately statted minions
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>>183730870
>Ticking abomination t4
>It gets fireballed and you lose your other minions too.
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>>183730870
>this rank 20 theorycrafting
you're already dead to Pirate Warrior or whatever new hyper aggro deck will dominate the next expansion
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>>183730685
the only reason.
mebbe bomb squad, too...
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>>183727332
Traditionally they release a card a day on weekdays.
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>>183727980
why dont you just play arena. Its literally babbymode right now and anyone decent can go infinite with the influx of noobs AND the +1 wins inflating the average.

Im normally between 5 and 6 win average in arena, after the frost festival Im at 11 runs and only one of them was sub 7 wins (4-3 with a god awful paladin deck with no weapons or steeds) and Ive had 3 12 wins.

Feels good to just watch the gold go up while accumulating dust and having fun at the same time.
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>>183731348
I played a bunch of arena this past weekend, but today both decks I built got dumpstered hard early on and I ended up 30 gold shy of the next one. Doing wins of the day to get back into it.
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>>183730371
It's fake, google ice mage and you'll find this art on someone's deviantart
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I miss him
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Lads, can someone explain the new card/pack system when the new expansion comes out?

Is it true that you can no longer get a duplicate of ANY rarity until you have collected the whole set?

Like if I get 2 of common X in my first pack opening, will I open common card X ever again until I have collected every other card's normal maximum?

That can't be right because there are 135 cards, of which some are legendary so lets say 135x2 = 270 which is 54 packs?

That just doesn't seem right.
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What I love about Hearthstone is that it is more fun when I see them screw up like this and think about the people who actually spend money on this

Lol preorders
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>Toast is the top streamer for HS now

jesus christ. jesus fucking christ
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>he pre-ordered
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>>183733186
no more than 2 of any common/rare/epic in a pack

you cant unpack a legendary you already have

first 10 pack is a guaranteed legendary

i think thats it
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>>183733186
no dupes of commons and rares would be too exploitable, you'd just craft all the commons and get packs full of nothing but rares,epics and legendaries.
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>Expac coming out on the 10th
>11 day spoiler season
>1 card revealed first day
I thought Un'Goro spoiler season was bad, but holy shit. Are they just going to reveal six cards a day starting tomorrow and on weekends?
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>>183734269
its gonna be a small trickle and then a big fat load on one of the last days leading up to the expac
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>>183733424
>people using pre-order cardbacks
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>>183734473
>he doesn't show faith and solidarity with blizzard's sleeper hit game
I don't have any of the adventure pre order backs since I bought those with gold
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>>183734269
is august 10th a for sure thing? Have people tried opening their packs with their windows clocks set to the 10th? Worked for every other expansion to figure out when the release was
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>>183734729
No, but multiple official sources from Blizzard have stated an early august release, and the frost festival ends the 9th
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I'm so fucking sick of paladin's Vine/Steed/Dino/BoK/Stonehill bullshittery in arena I think I got HIV positive from last weekend's runs.
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>>183734714
i want legacy of the void to be honest
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>>183734714
Good goy.
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Lol goyim you got tricked real well didn't you? THought you would get some cool legendaries revealed today eh?

Fucking niggers.
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>>183735828

>goyim
>niggers

lol babby first day?
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I cant believe what im reading. Are you all this ungrateful? This is obviously the start of the reveal season. We'll get plenty more in time so please dont be so quick to belittle Blizzard. They have done nothing but giving and giving in these last 2 weeks.
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>>183736219
you said it friend. Im sick of all this Blizzard bushing as of late. Have they even gave him a chance to explain why he did it? Thats what i though
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>>183736086
>says the guy who reddit spaces
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>>183729749
Could you possibly be referring to her labia?
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>>183736589
>>183736219
I hate Kibler so fucking much, I tried watching his stream once and his fake laughing every 3 minutes drives me insane.

It's so obvious that he fakes every single laugh of his and it's even worse that people unironically watch him.
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I think it's time that we, as Hearthstone players, rally around Blizzard, and lead game designer Ben Brode, as they reveal these awesome new cards and mechanics to use! It's so easy to talk down at Blizzard for their business model, but remember they are providing you with hours of engaging, thought provoking entertainment. Let's show our support!

Loving this new KotFT card back btw!
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>>183733350
How is toast any worse than the other meme streamers once at the top like Kropp, Reynad, Reckful, Trump...?

At least it's kind of funny to verbally abuse noodle
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Who is ready for the next expansion?
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>Eloise wearing a tank top with straps slid down her arm

Best timeline tbqh
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>>183737583
WOW look at all that gold! Hahahahaaaa!

You'll be knee deep in legendaries after you open all your pre-order packs! Hahahahhahaha!!!

You did pre-order, right? It comes with a SWEEEEET exclusive new card back! HAHHHHHAAA!
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I just cannot believe people can't just wait for other reveals. Blizzard is actually trying their best but they're probably too busy.

Anyway, who pre-ordered here? I was thinking about not preordering but when I saw the generosity with the festivals, I couldn't help myself, so I preordered because they gave us free things- I had to return the favor. They really love the community.
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>>183737847
You remind me of a school-shooter type, Brodeposter
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>Eloise with her bra straps down
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>>183738076
>I just cannot believe people can't just wait for other reveals
I knowwwww, right? It's like people have no patience for anything these days :/

Anyway, these new festivals have reinvigorated my passion for this game. The gold, the giveaways, the new emotes, the players... I just can't believe a game of this caliber is FREE TO PLAY! You don't have to spend a DIME!

I guess that just isn't enough for some folks :shrug:

Looking forward to opening my pre-order packs!
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>>183737774
>>183738287
>tfw Eloise is probably getting plowed by Dong-Chad-Zhou tonight after stream
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>>183738496

I can barely put into words how badly I want to fuck her
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>>183737847
>preordering
>for the absolutely disgusting amount of 50 packs
>ever
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA I'm not spending a dime in your game Brode
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>>183738705
hafu x eloise WHEN
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>going 6-3 in arena

Any worse feeling than this?
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>legitimately funny
>cute
>nice accent

IRL stream so we can learn more about her when? She needs to move on from this shit game.
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>>183738937
Going 5-3
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>>183739014
how do I acquire cute quirky chinese Hearthstone gf
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>>183739190

Be white
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>>183734714
the free cards are best looking out of those.

i preordered BRM for the sleeve thinking it would be the halloween mask of hearthstone but I never use it.
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>>183739457
didnt she friendzone reynad
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>>183738496
She's in the US and likes toying with cute autist white boys tho

>>183738831
Only in Eloise's dreams
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>>183739457
what is life like when you are as handsome, intelligent, tall, wealthy, and successful as Andrey "Reynad" Yanyuk?
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>>183739886

Yeah, she likes black guys. It's Hafu that likes white guys.
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>>183739886
Eloise literally has a sub emote of his face with the words "FRIEND ZONED" under it. Noodle is her boss, not her boy
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Eloise is a tranny.
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reynad is a conceited raging little cucklord
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>>183740104
he perma banned me for some bullshit and I got an admin to undo it the next day because he agreed it wasnt worth banning for
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>>183740228
>an admin
Nice bullshit
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>>183740104
t. VS Data Report
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>>183740447
I meant mod. But it had to be a head mod so I said admin when I realized after I submitted the post that thats for twitch staff.
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>novice engineer
>2 mana 1/1 draw a card

>arcanologist
>2 mana 2/3 draw a specific card you can play on curve that's critical to your win condition
really jogs the noggin
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I wanna fucking know, through all of these expansions, why there hasn't been a Darkmoon Faire one.

I want my legendary Silas, goddamnit.
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>>183741067
it's class-specific so it's okay
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>>183741182
I miss when it didn't have it's own island and I would haphazardly stumble upon it outside Thunder Bluff

Man I misspent my preteen years
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>>183741067

>Mad Scientist was too powerful
>Lets give a card that's basically that to just Mage

XD
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>>183727128
Need a rival for the 80g quest
YungSenpai#11817
Just play some stupid slow and greedy wild deck, preferably with a golden hero
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>>183741620
NA or EU?
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>>183741182
Also I want my legendary Moonfang.

And cannibal lady to serve up random upgrades in the form of different race-foods.

And carnies that have deathrattles where you summon ghosts.

And random treasure fishing pools to get random cards.

It fucking writes itself Blizzard, so where is it? Why are we at Northrend?
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Ben Brode is a massive prick and really ugly
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>>183741351
Even at 3 mana, 2 health or 1 attack it would be a strong class card. As it is now it's one of the best cards in 3 separate tier 1 decks, and that's saying a lot considering all the other broken cards it's competing with
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>>183741789
NA
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>>183741867

WELL MET!

HAHAHAHAHAHA XD
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>>183741867
t. CD Projekt Red
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>try to add random people from ranked and casual for 80g quest
>no adds
>come back days later
>4 friends online instead of 0
anyone else get this? why would you add someone days after the request
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>https://www.reddit.com/r/hearthstone/comments/6pczlt/cm_aratil_explains_tonights_inconveniences_and/dkodo5f/

Niggerssssss
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>>183742260
They just lonely shake-my-head fampai
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>>183742115
t. paid blizzard shill
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New card is here
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Hearthstone is fixed
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>>183742469
I solely blame the Chinese streamers for this
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>>183741620
not so smug now, are you?
I love this deck too much
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>>183742656
>this card as a one of in silence priest

It even has a big butt
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>>183742656
its fake
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>>183743000
I was honesty confused because you did like 6 dmg to yourself in 3 turns, so I thought you were a suicidelock throwing the game and I was holding back because I wanted to last longer

Turns out the memer got meme'd

There will be a rematch tho
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>>183742656

>Better argus defender
>With 2 more health
>For the same cost

Not even close to being real
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>Put to search match
>Games load while I go get something to eat
>Came back
>''This is not my deck the fuck? I misclicked the loadout again''
>Concedes
>Turns out I was at my 6/2 arena
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>>183743701
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why the fuck does mage always get the low risk high reward cards?
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>>183745463
firelands portal is a high risk card
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>>183742469
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>183742469
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>Reynoodle is back
>Still salty as ever

Finally a hearthstone streamer i can enjoy
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>>183742469
>waiting til 10 pm to say "sry there were some issues" in a comment in some random reddit thread
>don't actually explain shit
>don't reveal any more cards
>only vaguely promise more reveals in the future
>don't include a single solid detail in the entire post
This company is fucking incompetent
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>>183746592
kripp? hello?
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>>183746605
Blizz only pander to casuals what to expect?

They literally shot themselves in the foot with OW and the HOTS update is nothing but skins
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>>183727486
Oh believe me I have :)
Thanks Ben
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hey guys I was busy today so I missed all the cards being released. All I have been able to find is one shitty card. Anyone have any info on how many were released and where to see them?
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>>183747453
you're all caught up.
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>>183747453
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>>183747236
>shot themselves in the foot with OW
>a game that single handedly murdered, raped and publicly displayed the mangled corpse of the game once known as Battleborn
>a game that exploded so hard it doesn't even matter how bad they run it into the ground over the next year in a half because idiots are constantly buying alternate accounts and loot boxes

>HOTS update is nothing but skins
>implying any balance change they make to the game isn't going to do anything but make it worse

As someone who's been in the top 5% of players for both of those games at one time, I can tell you they're both complete garbage for some very simple, easy-to-address reasons that will never be fixed, but that's not going to stop people from enjoying it while sucking profusely.
Just like Hearthstone.
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>>183747046
Shut up retard
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>>183747859
thats the sad thing people keep eating the blizzard turds and whenever someone has some criticism about the game people get all defensive
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>>183741545
It doesn't play it and you still have to waste mana on it.
Mad scientist is also better in Hunter than mage since mage actually has draws while Hunter has fuck all.
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>>183727486
I don't have a credit card
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>>183747859
>caring about Stillborn

Randy pls
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>>183741067
>>183741351
>>183748246
The problem is freeze mage is just autoplay deck that blizzard refuses to fix
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>>183747859
>Battleborn
Literal who?

OW was created to be the new FPS competitive sensation, to go toe to toe with CS and CoD, but Blizz kept holding the right to hold any lans/events, so most investors interested in the game stepped back besides the laughable high salaries the players were demading for a game which were not even 1 year old, and lets not get started on how shitter is the playerbase of OW to the point they are aggressive to the game becoming a e-sport, because for them its more fun to jerk off to their flashy plays on plebbit than seeing people dedicate time,effort and money into the legacy of the game

And HOTS is where Blizz is shilling with all their resources right now, but its not even giving that good results if you compare the effort they are putting into selling this sinking ship
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Is this guy used in any decks? I drafted two in arena and he seems pretty killer.
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>>183747962
>the pot calling the kettle retarded
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Plague Scientist: (3) 2/3

Battlecry: Give a friendly minion Poisonous
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>>183741545
Arcanologist isn't even close to Mad Scientist in power level and it's still OP
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>>183748589
>effort being put into HOTS
Oh boy, it sure is hard to put all these pixels into the game and not do anything except slightly tweak numbers every half a month.
The support that game gets is almost nill, they keep pushing rehashed cosmetics to pretend they're actually doing something.
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>>183748732
what's with the poison shit? this is northrend, not naxx
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>>183748634
beast druid meme decks
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>>183748732
*Combo: Give a friendly minion Poisonous
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>>183748732
boring
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>>183748479
For the opponent it may seem that way, but the deck sometimes makes just as many risky percentage plays as any other

I've actually started to like PLAYING as Feeeze Mage, there are a lot of interesting lines of play. Still AIDS to be countered by, though.
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>>183748634
Quest Druid works nicely with this into Menagerie Warden. He's also a nice big drop to fit into Midrange Hunter.
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>>183748829
Anon, I....
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>>183748732
bland enough to be real. doesnt seem very good at a glance
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>>183748829
What did he mean by this?
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>>183748732
This is a very strong arena card, I like the art at least and it has meme potential
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>>183749028
if you are playing Menagerie on 8 it's way too late
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>>183748790
>Doing seasonal competition almost every month by themselves
>That cringy 2.0 release stream
>All the ''popular twitch HOTS streamers become one!'' propaganda
>Implying making skins is really that easy
Sure Blizz shill, you aren't struggling at all, kek
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>>183748829
This isnt northrend you retard its ICC specifically and there is a whole wing dedicated to poison in ICC.

>>183748790
>>183748589
>>183747859
>overwatch
>remove avoid a player feature cause it can be used to "troll"
>keep prefer a player feature because OBVIOUSLY it cant be used to troll
>reports dont do anything on console and for xbox reports can actually fuck over your live account because how easy it is to abuse the xbox live report system in overwatch
>pc doesnt have a report system and its common place to see people throwing left and right because the only way youll actually get punished is via a chat ban or banned for a season if you leave games
>blizzard fucked over esports by holding rights for events and then up and decided to write up their own contract form for esports that required teams to BUY IN for a slot and the slot itself is expensive as fuck and it also requires signing away rights to the players intellectual property

Blizzard just doesnt fucking care about any of their games
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>>183748732

pyro board wipe with a coin i guess.
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>>183749501
fuck you wow nerd. i was busy getting pussy while you were busy grinding for loot
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>>183749391
2.0 has been in the works for so very fucking long that I wouldn't doubt that it'd been completed on nothing but Blizzard downtime (i.e. in-between Tweets), and it really was nothing but cosmetics.
>Implying making skins is really that easy
It's a job, not a massive undertaking.
If you have the right people working on it and constantly try changing the direction then they can be completed in a fairly short amount of time.
Hell, I'm almost certain the skins take longer than the maps to make because they're still coasting off the fucking SC2 map editor and all the new battlegrounds have been complete uninspired shit.

I only know things about the game itself, I just can't stomach anything to do with "competitive" scenes or streamers and will never comprehend how so many other people can.
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>>183748732
,
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You know how they should have done the card reveals?
>The summation of 1 through 15 + 15 = 135
>17 days before the Expansion, reveal 1 card randomly chosen from your 135 new cards
>16 days before, reveal 2 cards at random from the remaining 134
>15 days, 3 cards, etc.
>On the last day before release, reveal the last 15
>15 cards is a large enough volume to be both interesting, take a decent time to look at and consider, and is enough hype all at once
>As is, there's only 128 cards left however
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>>183748732
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>>183749723
Turn 6, Pyro, that thing, coin Eviscerate any Rattle things that pop out.
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>>183749501
Avoid a player was removed because it was being abused, compared to how they intended it to be used.
It's purpose was to keep your distance from salty fucks you felt threw your game or someone that was hurting your precious feelings, however a very good number of people were using the system to keep themselves away from players who could actually aim since the matchingmaking in this game is garbage.
The example they used was a world class Widowmaker player had nearly 30 minute queues due to being avoided by nearly everyone since they'd rather click a few buttons and not have to deal with him than actually learning how to play the game.

If this is the main issue you have with everything they've done to this game then you need tor evaluate your priorities.
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Someone added me after a game and it was to tell me good game and that I played well.

I am in utter shock
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>>183750309

well rogue has a board clear now at least.
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>>183750185
How you gonna get them preorders if you don't even reveal all the cards before the very last minute?
You just don't get it.
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>>183750521
why don't you suck his dick faggot
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Predictions?
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>>183750752
The Last Memeisaur
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>>183750662
maybe I will
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>>183750752
THIS GAME ISN'T FUN WHEN IT'S NOT CLASSIC
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>>183750331
>"wahh this pro player is representative of the entire playerbase"
>"The example they used was a world class Widowmaker player had nearly 30 minute queues due to being avoided by nearly everyone since they'd rather click a few buttons and not have to deal with him than actually learning how to play the game."
>implying queue times arent already long as hell without it
>but but my top 500

yeah the magical pro land where everyone already knows each other and everyone is assholes to each other is full on representative of the entire fucking community

They could have easily fixed that issue by restricting the usage past a certain ranking without fucking punishing the entire community just because of one autist.

But no instead we have blizzard apologist like you who try to rationalize every retard decision the company makes.

>catering to top 5% when the game is dieing

Oh wait nevermind i forgot they fucking put jeff "tigole" kaplan in charge of overwatch that explains all the retardation
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Which streamers do you guys watch for entertainment?
Reynad seems to be the best choice since I don't see how people can bother to watch Kripp, he seems like the "my dad works are Nintendo" kid all grown up.
And to hell with all the Asian streamers they are cringy as hell
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>>183750975

used to be Nostam but he's ded now
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>>183750886
Games are always fun
>>183750850
Naw the never dying birb
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>>183750975
reynad used to be fun to watch but its obvious from watching his stream that even he is tired of this shit game
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>>183751023
What happened to him btw?
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>>183751065
he's been like that from day one

how is it suddenly obvious now
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>>183751115

He got a gf and turned into a normie
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>>183750975
Amaz only one I can watch.
I like kibler but his stream itself is boring so I wait for the youtube videos cause having no background noise at all kills it for me.
>>183751121
Before he drank and made more memes, now hes doesn't do anything just grudgingly plays the game
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>>183750975
>the asian streamers are all cringy
justsaiyan isn't cringy
neither is toast or ratsmah
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>>183750891
>Disagreeing with me means you agree with them!
>apologists
>"dying" game

I understand you're frustrated but not once did I say Blizzard was doing anything correct.
I'm saying the playerbase isn't guilt-free.
Blizzard would have a much easier time with the direction of the game if they didn't spend so much time trying to pander to what they see on social media.
And given that the average intelligence of those that are highly active in such areas is slightly lower than that of a frog poster, they tend to get bad ideas and impressions from the community.
The reason you assume they're pandering to pros is because the community loves to parrot the pros and their favorite streamers, because they view these people as knowledgeable and wish to appear as such.

I've seen it especially bad with /hsg/ as well. One day I decided to watch Kripp's shit since everyone always mentions him and nearly every fucking thing he said in his videos were all very popular topics in these threads.

If you're so mad about the game just stop playing it.
The balancing is a joke and it's best to play with friends anyways, I've seen way too many people get burnt out on the game because they grind comp and start developing really bad habits.
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>>183751346
Saiyan has the ultimate poker face, even when he's beaming he is stone faced

Good streamer desu, I like his tourney gameplay reviews/lineup strat streams because I don't have the time to grind opens/prep for that shit but it's damn sure a more interesting way to play the game compared to ladder
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>>183751786

Watchstone is the best ~6 hours of Hearthstone streaming every month.
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>>183750975
NaviOOT is pretty quality
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does trump still stream?
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>play against quest mage
>glyph into glyph into glyph into glyph
Who should I shoot for this to be a thing? Why the fuck is this allowed?
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Is there anything more horrifying than a hunter at 6+ wins?
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>arena opponent drafted 3 stonehill defenders
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>>183752058
Absolutely, especially when vanq joins drunk as fuck and starts shitposting

It was especially interesting two months ago when saiyan and kaka were both queueing for top 100 in the call and laughing was fighting for 1 and talking about it
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>>183752643

>ehh maybe he won't curve out so well
>alleycat
>radaptor
>huffer
>houndmaster
>mfw
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>>183751745
If I make a gaming company its motto would be Social Media Does Not Exist. Just seen it kill too many companies.

Would still use a Community Manager though I am not totally heartless and a little info wouldn't hurt.
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>>183752347
>playing through 3 Ice Blocks is fun and interactive
>and those are just the ones they RNG'd
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>Kripp accepts 80g challenge

fucking faggot gypsie cunt
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>>183753172
Ermm..what's wrong with that?
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>>183753172
he needs gold to play arena
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>>183753657
people on his friendslist know viewers hate watching 80gs (especially when it's before he plays arena) but send him the challenge anyways
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>T1
reynad
justsaiyan
navioot
eloise
nostam
ant
noblord

>T2
trump
amnesiac
dog
firebat
ostkaka
purple
sjow

>T3
everyone else

>T4
kibler
toast
savjz

>T5
arena streamers

>T6
kripp
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>>183754289
>trump that high

Otherwise pretty solid
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>>183754289
flip your list around and it'd actually be decent
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>>183754469
average trump is T3

card prediction Trump is T1 do
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>>183754289
Solid taste anon

Bob is gonna be a daddy btw, that wacky boy
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>>183754289
You'd probably like Ike, he's streaming top 100 with Crane333 right now
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>>183743164
>buff your minion
>silence the freeze and the buff off
Are you stupid...?
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Post your favourite card no one uses.
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>>183755938
One of for aggro matchup, who gives a shit as long as your dudes survive to buff >>183755938
and it gives you a wall
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>>183756138
??? Yeah, it's a good one of in any tempo deck as a tech against aggro. No better in silence priest than miracle priest. Specifying silence priest sounds pretty weird, especially since they don't even run argus at the moment.
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>>183756387
It just synergizes the most with that deck imo, keeping everything healthy, buffing potential shamblers, being the only deck that plays real Big Boys with Handlock in the dumpster. I honestly don't think it would be as good in miracle priest because you need to keep tempo and don't run silences, alas.

It's probably just because I hit legend with that deck and have been thinking about it the most
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>unironically being a brodecucck
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>>183756071
errytime
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>>183757656
wild quest n'zoth reno priest uses this
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>>183757759
and Brode uses you on the daily
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>>183727486
Because my deck is free to play and I normally have anywhere from 3k to 6k gold saved up for every new expansion or adventure.
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>>183750975
I watch the streamer who routinely places 1st in arena rankings every month or at least top 8 or so usually.
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why would blizzard hall of fame PO in the same rotation reno+thaurissan is leaving, killing off leeroy 20 dmg combo

zoo could have been viable with PO
what the fuck ben
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>>183759212
it seems to me like you are the one digesting colossal ammounts of Bengoo
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>arena draft
>get zero discover cards
>first opponent played like 7 discover cards

nice game blizzard
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>>183751115
Apparently he's going to be a dad and doesn't have a computer right now according to the chat he had with Vanqswisher yesterday.
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Which one?
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>>183759894
y'shaarj
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>Play nigger Priest because it's the only fun deck that gives me wins
>Matched against the literal Last Kaleidosaur player
>this happens

He tried so hard to make Galvadon happen. Traded efficiently, used all his spells, made sure to save up on board clears, baited stuff with hydrologist secrets, etc.
And it still didn't last a turn, I actually felt bad for the guy.
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>>183759741
>someone else watches vanq

Aw hell yea. He was on vacation for a while according to Flo, probably will stream three times in the next month promising more and then disappear again. At least Frank still streams.

I love the stream Th3rat did where he green screened Bob's china cabinet into the background
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>>183760670
Oh shit, forgot pic.
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>>183759894
>Welcome to Gadgetzan!
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>you will never play an unmanipulated game of hearthstone
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This is going to be broken in arena but it won't see play in constructed because it doesn't fit into miracle rogue.
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>>183761494
>he never played a control warrior mirror
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>>183749723
>>183750309
>>183750650
It's like a worse equality consecrate and pyro all work fine by themselves, although combining any two of them would be ideal as fuck.

This is just bad.
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I can't decide which pally deck to play
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>>183761589
>thinks it matters at all what deck you play
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>>183761756
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>>183761756
Play UK Paladin my dude

EZ Clap
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Am i the only one unable to see images?
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>only 11 wins away from golden mage
>literally every single nigger is playing druid in standard, and mage counters in wild
FUCK OFF
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NEW CARD REVEAL
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>>183762814
not lit
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>>183762814
Only took 3 years to make frost shock almost viable.
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>>183762814
They keep blowing my mind in terms of uninspired card design.

Also complete shit unless control/freeze shaman is a thing somehow.
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>>183762814
Fake News.
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>expansion about ice
>best frozen related card came out in ungoro (crusher)
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>>183762814
This expansion is just hinkyjinky cards so far, I don't know what I think. This is probably pretty useful with the NEW frost cards Shaman gets but with the current cards, its a bit situational, you need to have a great opening hand.
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All these new cards are fucking shit.
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>>183762208
I fucking hate this meme. Just call it "Murloc Paladin" Why the fuck does anyone feel the need to call it anything but what we've been calling it for months.
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>HE PREORDERED
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This expansion is going to be shit, I can feel it already.
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not too long ago Kripp said that someone on the inside told him that this expansion is nothing to be too excited about

i guess he was right
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>>183762814
wew, starting to feel very glad i havent wasted my money on a preorder
>>183763290
Lich/DK theme just disguises the fact that all the cards are trash. r*ddit will buy it anyway
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>queue Ben Brode laugh
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my control hunter decklist is 2-0 absolutely destroying the casual meta
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>>183763589
so you are angry chicken with 2 stars now?
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>>183761543
well the card is blatantly too good in tempo rogue, and if anything can make tempo rogue viable its cards that are blatantly too good
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>>183763280
Because it refers to the specific list that Jambre got rank 1 with including 4 weps, Patches, and Dread Corsairs? C'mon man
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>>183763772
What? It's shit stats without being comboed, and the effect isn't good unless you've already got something on the board. I think it's good, but it's not like, Agent good. And SI7 doesn't even see play in every rogue deck anymore.
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>>183762965
>yfw the shaman hero replacement is 4 mana, freezes the enemy board and changes his hero power to a frost shock
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>>183764046
>it's just Murloc with more weapons and pirates
Seriously, changing 5 cards and keeping the same core 20 doesn't make it a new deck.
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>>183764187
>What? It's shit stats without being comboed, and the effect isn't good unless you've already got something on the board

i was talking about a specific deck that plays a lot of low cost cards that will always be able to combo and likely to have something on the board "tempo rogue"
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>getting paid to sit online praising Brode all day

Life is sweet man. Don't forget to preorder Knights of the Frozen Throne, out some time in mid-August! You even get a COOL exclusive cardback!
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>>183764365
Why are you upset about a minor meme?
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How many wins bois?
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>>183762608
congrats, anon! I want that golden hero aswell but I need about 300 more wins ;_;
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>>183765149
your deck is pretty slow maybe 6 because you have some okay swing cards
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Why do people keep blaming Brode? He not in the charge for everything.
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>>183764478
Nah it'll be mediocre at best, it's like Xaril the understatted body is too much of a drawback for a conditional card. Why run this over damage like SI and Shaku, you already have 2 vilespine

t. Aggro Rogue autist
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>>183765149
with the amount of pallys, 5
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>>183765265
literally the guy that has the final say in everything about this game, thus named game director

are you actually this delusional?
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>>183764571
> You even get a COOL exclusive cardback!

Honestly, you made me laugh.
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Hope you are ready for a 100 % loss rate in ranked against people who paid for cards.
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>play a few games of midrange paladin without tarim and vilefin
>actually enjoy it
>contemplating whether or not to craft them

this is hell
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Meta is gonna shift hard next month m8
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>>183765590

Tarim is a 100% craft duder
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>>183765704
>Meta is gonna shift when a new expansion arrives
You don't fucking say
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i wish streamers wouldn't use cards that they rated as 100% unplayable prior to the expansion
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>>183761543
SO much lulz, no really, awesome card
>turn 1 Swash burglar, go on with patches
>turn 2 coin + plague onto patches
>trade their turn 1 or take so much advance compared to their fture board they will never come back

''they'll never see it coming''
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>>183765396
Have you ever worked on a team project before?
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>>183765590

tarim so stupid good.
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>>183765870
it's a joint effort, of course, I'm not disagreeing on that

but you need to really stop there and think for a second whether or not he's the one that has the final word in printing
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>>183765853
SI would do the same thing without conditionally requiring a minion on your side of the board that can attack
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>>183765853
>"Greetings"
>*broken potion sounds*
>*clearing-board-with-your-minions sounds*
>"Well Played"

>"Blessings to you"
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>>183765989
SI still needs a trigger, though
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>>183765989
the difference is in the required answer coming from your opponent to manage a turn one annoyance, or a prob turn 2 ''1 damage kill'' minion.
Abviously, the combo can even kill a Doomsayer, and you don't even need to start second, you can play with counterfeit coin

The only real difficulty would be getting the needed cards at the right moments, but still, not impossible
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>>183762814
>blizzard is forcing "freeze shaman" meme into being an almost real thing

stop

theres like no way you can justify face tanking 3 things that were big enough to justify freezing, nevermind having 2 of these cards in your deck to justify playing all of the freezes in the first place

they'd have to add like 3 more glacial shards to the game 2 of which also heal your face when played
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>>183765989
True, the real power of this card comes from it's flexibility to be playable at every point in the game.
Early game you can combo it with some little minion for tempo based single target removal.
Late game you can combo it with Pyromancer for a board wipe

It's a really good card because it can basically be used as both a Vilespine type removal or as a board clear against large boards (which Rogue doesn't even have right now, so this card adds utility to Rogue that they didn't even have before).

This will see competitive play, it has the flexibility to be an easy out to many difficult situations.
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>>183766375
>Late game you can combo it with Pyromancer for a board wipe

3 card 5++ mana board wipe why not just play vanish instead
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>>183766375
True, it's actually one's of rogue only AOE available to him (except the risky Pyro -> Adapt -> Poison)
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>>183766265
The hero power that the Shaman Deathknight has is a 2 mana freeze 2 random enemy minions.
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>>183766265
>Both frost elemental and glacial shard are elementals
A thought
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>>183766483
Because Vanish can't be used as single target removal and your opponent can still play their minions again when you use it.
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>>183762814
Can't see any viable play for that one

Is it a neutral weapon? Can't seem to have a dedicated class on it
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>>183765265
I dont blame him entirely but he has a lot of say in design,hence "Lead Game Designer". He has never had anything to say of any substance or value whatsoever and pretty much only ever appears to soak up glory or attention, or give a non answer. But I mostly hate him for the embarrassing fandom idolizing him everywhere (which he encourages, it feeds his ego) when in reality he's just a fat neckbeard with weird eyebrows and the same awkward expression in every picture
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>tuesday
>no free arena run

fuck you blizzard
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>>183765979
Probably not? They come up with what they come up with, they have a certain deadline for card creation and then brainstorming and it's not like he can say "stop and make another" after a certain point

He probably doesn't even deal with that for the most part
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>>183766685
its shaman
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>>183766685
>yfw mage weapon
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>>183766685
Shaman weapon. Could even be viable if Shaman gets freeze cards, especially if they're also elemental support like some new Ice-based elementals (it is Icecrown after all).
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>>183766507
you'd still need enough healing to justify face tanking 3-6 minions per game

and also competes heavily with jade claws
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>>183766765
>>183766792
>>183766801

Well okay. None the less this card is meh, not as trong a fiery war axe, not as adaptive as jade claw, and definitly not worth to get a 2+ card combo to kill a creature while taking damage face.

Final conclusion : dead card, enjoy the pits of forgotenness
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Guess the amount of wins.
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>>183766969
>>183766994
What if Shaman hero takes no damage when attacking frozen minions?

Do you think that might be enough to make it viable?
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>>183767178
gut feeling tells me no
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>>183767143
12
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>>183766750
>mfw team 5 hired business-centric designers from Konami to help them flesh out how much filler to put in packs and which cards should be toned down

The YGO! banlist has crushed my soul too many times
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>>183767143
no
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Someone miss that?
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>>183767178
>>183766969
>>183767178

No, for several reasons

first it requires to combo 2 cards

then, shaman is today on an aggro roll, why would they add weapon that deals 1 damage if when they can add a jade claw which can make a golew evolve in something viable

finally, turn 3 in Shaman aggro is WAYYYYY to important for this weapon, it's the moment you start putting drawing totem or murloc totem

I can only see a play after turn 7, maybe in order to finish your opponent while doing something like

>glacial shard + weapon
>remove taunt
>hit face

Maybe a card in the new extension will combo with it
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>>183767143
10
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Do you guys think any hero card will be 3 mana or less, and which class would have it?
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>>183767468
how is this in standard
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>>183767468

>WELL PLAYED
>NATURE WILL RISE AGAINST YOU
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People have been calling for a Lich King / Death Knight expansion since forever, guaranteed this contains more trash and filler than ever before simply because they know people will buy it simply for the theme.
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>>183767597
What did he mean by this?

If the first Hunter card they show isn't good I might take a break from this game
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Think its hilarious how anybody can deny that matchmaking is manipulated. This is the same company that hired a team of psychologists to determine how to make WoW more addictive to maximise profit. If you think the same techniques and ideas weren't applied to HS you're either retarded, a paid shill or a fanboy overinfluenced by paid shills
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>>183767595
Everything would be over 5 mana, otherwise the class with the cheap hero would be at a major advantage, whatever the new hero power may be
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After obtaining rank 3 with pint potion priest (Zetalot deck) on week ago in two days and since then struggling to even log in, I understood some things :

- There is way too much RNG ans it kills any sense of merit
- Yogg Saron is STILL capable of turning around a game you've played perfectly well
- Aggro decks are still a thing after 2+ years of HS and it is literaly playing on curve
- Hunter will never be a skillful class
- The next expansion is going to be shit
- Elise cards are the best cards
- The matchmaking system makes no sense, it's literaly rock/paper/scizor in a coinflip.
- The rank 5 to legend is an absolute fun killer and probably the worst matchmaking system I've ever seen in a game so popular.
- List of cards that need a change or Hall of fame : Ice Block, Alex, Brawl, the +1+1 druid buff for 1, Jade idol, Patches, Southsea capitain, Firey war axe, that 5/6 dragon for 5 that discovers itself, frozen nova, Primordial glyph.
- The HS team has no fucking clue on how to balance things.

Literaly EVERYTHING wrong with Hearthstone could be fixed in one fucking week. But no, HS will never change for the better. I'm done with it.

The rogue quest nerf should have been done after the first month of the expansion since it was already too polarising and it seems like they hate that.
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>>183767674
well at least deathstalker rexxar is agressively statted as a control hunter card that will never fit into a viable deck
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>>183767937
>ice block
Who the fuck thought it would be fucking fun to sit through two fucking turns of you not being able to do shit to your opponent
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Official wording and all that.
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>>183767809
git gud
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>>183767595
I really doubt it. Since it changes your hero power it would need to give you 5 armour, a hero power that was barely better than the default one and do literally nothing else or it would be completely overpowered.

It's just not really feasible to create a card like that because of how Hero cards are designed.
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>>183767937
>yoggy is still an issue
Not when they made it necessary for him to be alive. Really need to win the jackpot to score more than 5 spells.
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Let's count
Trees + Roar = 9 mana 14 dmg
Trees + Roar + Roar = 12 mana 22 dmg
Trees + Trees + Roar = 15 mana 26 dmg
God, I love math!
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>>183768186
>put yogg into jade druid
>even if i get fucked i played a fuckton of spells so majority of the time i last ditch with yogg i end up winning
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>>183767937
Go to bed, Anduin. Aggro should and always will be a thing.

As a legend player, the ladder system does need to be fixed though
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>>183768163
you sure proved me wrong senpai
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>>183768198
>tree in this day and age
Where is your Living Mana?
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>>183767937
>- List of cards that need a change or Hall of fame : Ice Block, Alex, Brawl, the +1+1 druid buff for 1, Jade idol, Patches, Southsea capitain, Firey war axe, that 5/6 dragon for 5 that discovers itself, frozen nova, Primordial glyph.

>Ice Block - granted and will likely happen anyway
>Alex - no way, very unlikely
>Brawl - maybe, but they would need to compensate by adding even more
board removal
>+1/+1 buff - not happening, was just introduced
>Jade Idol - "under close monitoring", unlikely
>Southsea Captain - not happening in any foreseeable future
>Fiery War Axe - no
>Secret Agent Coming Through - also not happening
>Frozen Nova - nope
>Primordial Glyph - also not happening
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>>183767468
>angry tree noises behind you
pshh nothing personel
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>>183768385
>no proof matchmaking is "rigged"
>prove me wrong

They literally don't have the technology, and their groundwork is done before you even queue the game
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>>183768198
Reminder that Combo Druid had a very large winrate discrepancy between good and bad players
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>>183752643
My last final arena boss was hunter and he couldn't get on the board. It was the easiest game if the whole run, the poor guy must have had a hand full of shit.
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>>183767937


How to save Hearthstone :

Make spells unable to target a player.
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>>183768427
Got to love the fact that they want to kill froze mage at all cost because it's ''unfair and too powerful to OTK your opponent''.

Am I the only one thinking that if you stay alive for 15 turn with a minimum of boards (you're on the underhand position the whole game) and actually get to draw your whole deck to draw a combo, you are worth to OTK your opponent?
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>>183767937
>braindead player thinks he knows how to play the game
>wants to remove warrior's only good board control card
>wants to remove southsea captain for some reason
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>>183768690
Why does everyone want to turn this game into board control the game?
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>183768741
>wants to remove warrior's only good board control card

>Brawl
>a good card
>warrior's only removal

found the tauntcuck.

>wants to remove southsea captain for some reason
Meant southsea deckhand, mb
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>>183768781
As opposed to the face game it is currently?
why indeed
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>>183767937
>Aggro decks are still a thing after 2+ years
Yeah. They're a thing in MtG too. Are you new or something?
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>>183768738
>Am I the only one thinking that if you stay alive for 15 turn with a minimum of boards (you're on the underhand position the whole game) and actually get to draw your whole deck to draw a combo, you are worth to OTK your opponent?
Yes.
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>>183768690
Absolutely disgusting
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>>183768995
At least MTG sometimes prints anti-aggro cards that actually do something against aggro.
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>>183768878
you can't use execute and sleep on everything. brawl has been in every control warrior deck since ever for a reason.
>removing southsea deckhand
that makes even less sense
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>>183768493
>They don't have the technology

this is a meme constantly pumped out by team 5 shills along with "soonâ„¢" to cover for the fact that they spend all their time tweaking their rigged matchmaking system and invisible card ratings. this is literally why nothing ever happens quickly with this game, things we think would be an easy tweak or change would actually affect their system drastically. they are 3 expansions ahead of us for fucks sake.
the majority of people using deckcodes now makes it even easier to script.

the proof is obvious when you play enough in a short space of time. occurences that should be very rare are almost predictable. go and make a janky deck with random cards in ranked and see how much longer it takes to find you a game, probably against someone ranks apart from you.
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>>183768738
Who cares what controlcucks think, just keep playing Freeze if you like. It's a pretty challenging deck to master anyway, even if it is busted right now
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the real culprits that are must add's are innervate, wrath, ice block, fiery war axe, fireball, frost bolt and thalnos

I'd be happy if even half of them go into Hall of Fame
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>Gee Vilefin Inquisitor how come your player lets you ride TWO stegodons?
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>>183768975
Making spells not target heroes would gut two non-aggro decks: burn mage and freeze mage, which then would cause a significant increase in token decks. Congrats, now 50% meta is token druid or token shaman.
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>>183769118
innervate, prep, stonetusk boar, frostbolt, kor'kron elite.
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>>183769110
Also, Ice Block is NOT necessary for combo mage to exist and should fuck off
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>>183769118

>Fireball going HoF

That would legitimately kill mage
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>>183769125
*plays sap*
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>>183727128

That new Plague Scientist really looks familiar.


Will they finally steal cards from better card games, instead of making everything randumb and/or corrupt?
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>>183769316
He played concede actually.

I would have liked to see it die and spawn two stegodons though.
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>>183769086
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>>183769341
i doubt anyone at blizzard has seen this card or heard about whatever game its from
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>>183768975

Let's go through the """top""" decks and see which ones trade on board/aren't face decks

1. Control Mage - not face. uses spells on minions to not die and secure combo at end of game, if developing minions early, uses them to trade and not face
2. Pirate Warrior - face
3. Token Shaman - Requires board trading to secure bloodlust
4. Freeze Mage - Combo that goes face... on turn fucking 10
5. Aggro Druid - face
6. Aggro Paladin - Requires board trading to secure board as it does not have comeback mechanic
7. Miracle Rogue - Combo, not face

You're literally wrong you fucking crybaby shitter. Let's go to tier 2.

8. Jade Druid - not face
9. Secret Mage - Aggressive, but not face, but I'll still call it face due to aggression and to help your dwindling shitty point
10. Control Paladin - Literally the most not face a deck can be
11. Mid Range Paladin - Literally the most board trading focused a deck can be
12. Control Priest - Literally the most not face a deck can be
13. Taunt Warrior - Not Face
14. Spirit Echo Shaman - Literally not face at all
15. Dragon Priest - Nope

Good god this board is full of some of the dumbest fuckheads known to man. Enjoy crying at rank 14 you crybaby shitters.
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>>183767674
Why?
Hunter is probably the most balanced class in the game right now, it's perfectly average and can win against pretty much everything but mage/control warrior most of the time
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If this Ice Breaker card is any indication, there's gonna be a lot of freeze mechanics coming to more classes than just Mage.
Is this the death of Aggro?
I hope it's the death of Aggro.
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>>183769370
blizzbot is broken, forgot to generate a text response to go with its shitty meme image.

maybe I'll get a mystery ban again once the blizz paid mod wakes up

if only team 5 paid half as much attention and money towards actually making a good game as they do towards social manipulation
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(3) Ice Block - Spell - Your hero is immune during your opponents next turn.

Can't be drawn/played with Arcanologist or Mad scientist. Similar functionality to how it is now except it can't be preloaded 7 turns earlier and must actually be played reactively.

Good solution y/n?
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>>183770268
Too complicated for freezecucks
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>>183770268
Ice block didn't become a major problem until the Created By meta changed it so you could realistically expect to face 6 of them in a single game if the mage needs it.
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>>183770268

I saw once a better option : Ice block procs from the next source of damage and gives you an immune for the turn instead of when you are about to be killed.

That'll force magecucks to think twice before playing Iceblock.
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>>183770237
People always assume it's the death of aggro and it never is, so why should now be any different?
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>>183770268
Just make it so you can't get 8 more thanks to random effects and the card is fine.
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You know why I stopped playing Hearthstone ? A friend of mine asked me how I could describe the game in 1 word.

The only thing that came into my mind was "random".

How would you describe Hearthstone to a non-player in a similar fashion ?
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>>183770453
Unrewarding
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>>183770453
p2w
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>>183770525
How?
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>>183770453
Stories
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>>183770520
spot-on answer
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>>183770564
Good luck starting today while not paying. It's not p2w in the paying gives you things that you can't get without paying but the pacing is so slow you will never catch up.
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>>183770453

RNG
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>>183770658
Yeah, it's not p2w. It's p2 not grind. I just hate people overusing the term p2w.
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>>183769341
This already started with Un'goro.

>Tyrantus = Iron Atronach
>Vilespine Slayer = Leaflurker
>Stormwatcher = Snowy Sabrecat
>Volatile Elemental = Brutal Ashlander
>Stubborn Gastropod = Fighter's Guild Recruit
>Glacial Shard = Shrieking Harpy

I'm excited to see which Drain creatures Blizzard is going to copy for their new inventive mechanic. We already know Giant Bat will become a new paladin card.
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>>183770256
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>>183770027
Anon, Hunter is clearly the second worst class in the game and lags heavily behind the top 7 while still being above Warlock. Let's not even mention how much worse it was than current Gul'Dan last xpac. There's a reason not a single person brought it in their lineup to Dreamhack.

It really needs help.
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>get 10 divine shield quest
>decide to try out wild ranked
>rank 20 immediately queue into golden pirate warrior

isn't it the end of the month?
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>>183771582
>can't break rank 6
Definitely the end of the month
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>what's that Papa Brode? you want me to touch you where? what are you doing to me?
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>tfw finally getting fan mail
He was playing secret mage and wiffed on with his books and glyph and got tilted with my golden Leeroy for lethal
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>>183771637
Getting rank 5 is easier the later in the season you go until the last day or two...
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>>183771995
Zoo?
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>>183772352
Apparently not
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>>183772595
On average, it totally is. Either you're getting unlucky or are not playing up to par with the other hardstuck rank 6 players
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>>183772595
The sweet spot is from day 15 onwards. Day 1-10 is where all the tryhards and streamer push for legends. 10-15 is where most people hit legends. Onwards is just people randomly playing. Day 25-30 is when people push for the reward cap.
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>>183772493
Not him but here's a good zoo list if you insist on playing the archetype
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Did you preorder?
How much gold do you have, and how much do you plan to spend on packs?
How much dust do you have?
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>>183773134
>Did you preorder?

Fuck no. Have you seen the trash so far?
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>>183772895
>tfw you love zoo
>tfw loathe discard memes
Hold me bros.
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>>183773134
Expansion looks like shit so far
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>>183727128

If you could ban ONE card from the ARENA, which card would you ban?

I am torn between
>Pyroblast
>Dr. 3
>Gigantsize (or whatever its called)
>that 3/4 plant
and
Bloodlust
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>>183773424
Spikeridged steed
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>>183773424
>banning win more cards
here's a small hint. if you're unable to control the board properly, you'd lose with or without them having that card 99% of the time
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>>183770828

Lets hope they steal elusive bro. I love this guy. Ramp cards/items would also be nice.

Those new heroes remind me a bit of Planeswalkers from magic.
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>>183773134
Played since Kara, preordered every expansion since and bought LoE, BRM while I could but I wont be wasting a penny on this. It looks awful and I hate the direction Team 5 seem determined to take the game regardless of what the community says time and again. The UI is still beta shit and the game lacks any support or diversity other than "more cards every few months". I am also firmly in the "Fuck Ben Brode" camp.

I'll just get by on my dust and gold this time.
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>>183773508
No. If your opponent has a board of wisps and you don't have an AOE for one turn, the wisps would not have won him the game eventually, the only won because all their attack got quadrupled for 1 turn and that's all they need.
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>>183773424
>pyro
not even that good.
>birb
-50% offering rate already in place.
>dinosize
the worse paladin un'goro buff
>vilespine
disgustingly op

Eater of Secrets.
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>>183737046
new
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>>183773693
>Eater of Secrets

nice b8
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>>183772493
>>183772895
Yeah I have the demon quest and it runs 4 demons. So I said screw it.

The discard lists are all trash. I run the list Ant got like rank 27 legend with.

I should consider changing one ritual for one villager ritual though.
>>
nice opening hand
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>>183773795
There is no bait. I get more annoyed by shitty cards that work rather than op cards in arena.

Unless offered completely shitty cards, on the level of angry chicken and alarm o bot, you should not be drafting eater of secrets. However, there still are some retards that draft it anyway, probably thinking, because it has seen play in constructed as a tech option, that it's a good card.

Most of the time they will end up playing it as a 4 mana 2/4, so as a shitty card. Also commonly they will hold the card in their hand forever against a mage, hunter or paladin, resorting to bad plays because they want to keep it in their hand for potential value. These two scenarios lead to a bunch of losses on average.

However, once in a blue moon, they will face against someone who actually plays a secret while they have it in their hand. And when that happens to you, you realize that you lost to a fucking retard who was stupid enough to draft eater of secrets and you were unlucky enough to be that one guy it worked against. That is why I want that shitty card removed from arena.
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>>183736853
>2011
>not having moved on to primarily reddit by now
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>>183774062
But that could be said of any hail mary card.
Would you want blood knight banned for that reason?
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>>183774140
Blood knight is at least a 3 mana 3/3 that works against more classes than 3. It's something you would normally choose in a draft.
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>>183774125
You need to go back to r*ddit, fast. There's a new Brode post that needs upboating and gilding. His dick wont suck itself, kiddo
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How can they manage to fuck up the hype this badly with plain boring uninspiring uninteresting and TGT-powerleveled cards??
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>>183774385
I think the rogue card is alright.
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>>183774287
You need to go back to legion fast. Anonymous needs you to ddos habbo hotel on /b/ fast. Epic.
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>>183774751
>"wahh stop making fun of brode"
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>>183774751
Awkward and embarrassing.
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>>183774751
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>>183774826
>>183774839
>>183774918
holy shit. am i being the victim of an epic /4chan/ raid? NEVER FORGIVE NEVER FORGET
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>>183773916
I forget who I copypasya'd but he got rank 3 with that list I posted

I'll always trust Ant with Zoo lists though, that big boy is really fucking good at Warlock
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>>183774486
It's alright but just reinforces boring curvestone gameplay.
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>>183775130
I dont think so. It's a combo board clear mostly and ocasionally used to clear single targets. Sure as hell not playing it turn 3.
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>>183775130
How is that Rogue card representative of cuevestone at all? It's an understatted combo card
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>>183775130
How? It's a combo card, and you would rarely want to play it on 3 either. SI would be better 99% of the time.

Perhaps you could try to fit it in jade rogue. Works well with jade swarmer because of the stealth and the stickiness.
>>
>arena
>win streak to 6 wins
>3 FUCKING GAMES IN A ROW AGAINST A MAGE WITH KAZAKUS
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Watch them make Arthas trash. Just watch
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>>183776227
He deserves it
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>>183776652
>arthas was in the wrong
biggest fucking meme in the entire franchise
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>>183756071
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>tired of spending my gbp on this fucking game
>arena is rigged as fuck
>quests give you ~half a pack each
>every time i make a deck it's shitty or gets nerfed
how the fuck do you autists get 10k gold without saving for years
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>>183777096
I made my fortune when this game was fun to play. Now sitting on 18,000 gold and 27,000 dust and I'm set for life.
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>>183777096
Dont waste dust on useless cards. I started saving 1 month after last expansion and I got almost 8k gold.
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>>183776718
During the culling? He didn't know any better and tried to save his people. After that? Obviously he was written to have snapped.
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>>183777330
Just remember that every single neutral freezing card they release will only make mage better.
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Is it just me or is Finja fucking useless? Crafted him for a midrange paladin and feel like I wasted my dust because he never did anything in every game I played, cut him for a simple equality and it was immidiatley more useful
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>>183777468
Just you. Finja can be ridiculous when it fetches warleader.
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>>183777468
It's just you, man
Finja is fucking retarded
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>>183777468
It's not the best card in the deck and there can be an argument for cutting it in certain Pally lists but it will win you games that you couldn't otherwise by just dropping it, especially in combination with Steed
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>>183777468
Its too weak to 5 mana Flamestrike, unplayable
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>>183773424
> Vicious Fledgeling
Only ass blasted faggots, who draw for late game greed instead of early tempo want to ban the bird. It is literally daring reporter level of above average.
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>>183765282
I could see pyro using it since rogue is genuinely that desperate for good aoes.
>>183770237
That card helps zoo/token decks as all they need is enough turns to SR/BL kill you. Any card you think is good for control can also help zoo decks.
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>>183778638
Look at the win rate %s for quest rogue, consider how vicious fledgeling and quest rogue are similar, then kill yourself you fucking retard.
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New card. It's just another arena filler garbage.
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>>183773424
Fuck Vinecleaver, to be honest.
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>>183778816
It's not that bad to be honest
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>>183778816
Really fucking good arena card though.
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>>183778816
>3 mana 3/4 that can become a 5/3
That's actually ok/good in arena
Also perfect for those pesky "Play 10 enrage minions" quest
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>>183778816
It's better than abberant at least
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>>183778816
Good to know enrage is still remembered
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>>183778816
Yeah, this is literally the epitome of "Great in arena, will not see constructed play"
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>>183778816
fake and gay
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>1000 gold saved up
>10 literally FREE packs for Knights of the Frozen Throne®
>one GUARANTEED legendary

literally WHO is going to stop me when Hearthstone®'s latest exciting adventure hits in August 2017?
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Haven't played hearthstone in about 2 months. Does the new expansion look promising. So far all of the cards I've seen look like trash or arena tier
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>>183778951
>Play 10 enrage minions quest

Did I miss something?
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>>183779208
>>10 literally FREE packs for Knights of the Frozen Throne®

Source? I never heard of this.
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>>183779208
Actually it's 2 legendaries guaranteed if you get 10 packs.
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>>183779208
I preordered. This way I will get a guaranteed legendary in my first 10 packs, with possibly many more in the rest! I will also fill my collection with the cool new cards, and use the disenchanting feature to get enough arcane dust to craft the cards I'm missing so I can stay ahead of the pack.
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>>183778810
> this cards is broken because it can win game if you are lucky to draw it early and if opponent can't remove it because he is unlucky and you also need to roll the good adapt for it to even work!
The card is unreliable as fuck and isn't better than any other remove this or prepare to lose cards like Venture Co Mercenary, Daring Reporter, and others.
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>>183779210
Too early to tell. They've only officially revealed like 7 cards (only 3 within the last day). Lifesteal isn't as powerful as it is in other games like MTG where your health isn't capped and you can go into infinity. Here if you're on 30 health and you have lifesteal it's useless.

After coming off Un'goro, I think anything will feel like a step down in both deck variety/class flexibility and useable cards.
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>>183778810
> vicious fledgeling and quest rogue are similar
you can add jade idol here, it is broken according to your reddit opinions too
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>>183779441
it's obviously better than those cards at winning the game on the spot, which is why everyone is whining about it and making videos

no one cares about stats - if something feels bad to enough people, the devs change it

>>183779739
>reddit opinions

fuck off retard

quest rogue was nerfed and fledgeling now appears half as often, both because they feel bad

you can stick your fingers in your ears and cry about ""reddit"" all you want - i'm just telling you what the developers are likely to do
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>>183779308
This is 50g quest that exists in the game.
I get it quite often.
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>>183780264
Oh I thought it was some new quest that got spoiled, then googled and found some player-driven quests to make Enrage decks.

Can't say that I remember getting that quest, but seems interesting.
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>>183778816

Why the fuck would they print this when the 3/5 and the 2/3 exist? This is the most pointless fucking card.
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>>183780398
Are you new to card games?
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>>183780398
>This is the most pointless fucking card.

Missed the first card revealed yesterday did you? Risen Berserker isn't that bad.
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So Blizzard is trying to build up hype with arena filler cards?
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>rogue plays prep into pilfered power for four mana crystals
good thing i was already winning because that was scary as fuck
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Not a single good card revealed so far.
This is shaping up to be TGT tier.
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>>183780472

I'm not talking about how good the card is you fucking dimwit.
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Honestly lads, as much as some of you like to constantly bitch about the meta, there are 6-7 viable decks for climbing top 100 legend ladder right now, and there is no definitive best deck at the moment. You guys are going to look back at UG meta when (((Ice Cream Citadel))) comes out
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The expansion is set to be mediocre at best (read: boring) in terms of cards and their general stats/usage.

Don't get yourselves too excited.
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>>183778816
This is the best card they've shown so far. God this expansion is going to be garbage.
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>>183780073
> b-b-b-b-but muh feels
You only confirm what was said before about card only being ban worthy because of the reddit tears, developer policy is one thing, but personal wish to ban pretty fair card is another kind of autism.
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>>183778816
It isn't even a real card.
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Spirit Lash > Plague Scientist > Shallow Gravedigger > Deathstalker Rexxar > Ice Breaker > Chillblade Champion > Prince Keleseth > Ticking Abomination
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>>183781113
>spirit lash
more like spirit trash
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>>183781113
You forgot Risen Berserker. Dumb frog poster.
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Does anyone else fucking hate playing against Secret Mage? It's just the most annoying bullshit ever.
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>>183781113
That fucking Shaman weapon, what's even the point of revealing it without showing any synergy cards first. They're doing everything backwards.
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>>183781598
To laugh at you if you say that it is unplayable.
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>>183781113
>2 mana 2/2
>worse than 3 mana 1/3 weapon and Spirit Lash

I lol'd
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>>183781491
t. not smart enough to outmindgame rank 15 players
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>>183781675
it probably still is, though
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>>183781812
but it is free shatter on top of spirit claws
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>>183780398
>print
>digital game
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>play arena
>don't draft 5 Stonehill Defenders, 2 Meteors, and 3 Primordial Glyphs
>3-3
wow
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You guys know any good free bots? Need my daily 100g dose
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>>183782343
>>/lolg/
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>>183781675
>>183781871
So you're spending 3 mana for a weapon that won't immediately do anything. Then you're spending cards to freeze something then hit with your face.

Whatever will help shaman freeze something needs to be really good because the other removal options for Shaman are just far superior.
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Can't wait to play freeze shaman
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So is the Mage hero card real or not?
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>>183782263
>year 1985+32
>not writing your own Heartthstone bot
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>>183778841
You lost to that guy too?
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>fun
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5th arena, first on alt account. I'm so happy rn
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>>183783475
Any tips?
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>>183783756
Make something that won't get caught in a banwave.
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>>183783832
Go on
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>still haven't reached rank 5 due to playing ~25 games so far

0-2 Secret or Freeze Mage
3-5 Token Shaman
6-8 Miracoli
9 Face Hunter
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More Discard shit for Warlock.
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>>183784015
Like Bolvar but worse, well done chaps.
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>>183784015
if this is real they are literally just trying clutchmother a second time and hoping that it works. It won't.
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>>183784015
WARLOCKS ON SUICIDE WATCH
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>>183784015
fake and gay
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>>183784121
>it's real
shit
>>183784168
it's on the offical hearthstone twitter, it's real
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>>183784015
>Warlock card
>No demon tag

Trash
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>>183784015
Jesus this expansion is gonna be terrible
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>>183784015
I feel bad for warlocks really.
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>>183784015
Can't wait to open this in my first 10 packs. Free epic!
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>>183784015
>get rid of a bunch of cards to gain attack on a minion that will probably drop fast anyways
fucking buff the way discard works or discard synergies if you're gonna pull shit like this
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>>183784015
So glad I DE'd Clutchmother, its all going to shit
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Why Blizzard hate Warlock so much?
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>>183784015
It should've had charge for all the work you must put into it.
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This set is going to be TGT all over again.
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>>183784442
they don't hate him, I just think they are very terrible at making risk/reward cards. They clearly think the discard mechanic is going well
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>>183784015
Good, fuck Warlock. They had tons of good shit for too long.
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>>183784490
So what? More secret Paladin?
Sweet.
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>>183784015

> inb4 DK warlock hero power is gonna be passive: whenever you discard a card, add it back to your hand

Blizzard, where is my paycheck?
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>>183784545
I think we're guaranteed a new Pally secret
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>yfw you didn't preorder
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>>183784015
I don't know if Warlock will actually be bad, but this may be the end of my enjoying the class in Standard

>>183784545
>there are actual players out there like this guy
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>>183784687
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>>183780398
>print
Stop saying this. You can't print digital objects. We settled this in the previous thread.
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>>183784564

> 2 Mana: Discover a card you discarded this game. Play it for free.
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>>183784564
>discard a card, draw a card
calling it now
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>>183784687
>>
DUDE

DISCOLOCK

LMAO
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>>183784757
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>>183783885
Read the source for the old ones and write something that's just different enough so that it won't be caught.
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>>183784564
It's a 10 mana hero card. For that price it should be "summon all minions you've discarded this game", like N'zoth.
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MY GOD WHAT THE FUCK IS BLIZZARD THINKING
ALL CARDS REVEALED SO FAR ARE COMPLETE TRASH (maybe except hunter hero)
THE ABSOLUTE MADMEN
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>>183784015
>play discard
>discard this card
>and not silverware golem or clutchmother
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>>183784015
Marginally playable if you are retarded enough to play Discolock.
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>>183783885
As a pro (also bots are closed source).
Make it not play 24h total.
Use a retard IA so it loses sometimes.
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HAHAHAHAHA warlock! HAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>183784015
They cannot be THIS dense. Its bolvar 2.0. electric bogaloo, and they exactly knew what nobody played Bolvar. What the fuck ? And people preorder this shit ?
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Play discard lock.
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New warrior weapon revealed.

4 mana 2/2
Battlecry,Deathrattle: Deal 1 damage to all minions.
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>>183785141
no
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>>183785117
>guys what should we make as a legendary for warlock
>throw them a budget bolvar
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>>183784426
Just make it non fucking randumb.
There is a reason "you randomly discard..." In mtg reads "if this isnt gamble this is crap"
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>>183785163
There's no way this is real. This is just a god awful version of deaths bite.

This expansion is just going to be a copy of Naxx with shitty cards, isn't it?
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>>183784098
>>183785140
Bolvar was bad because he needed to be in your hand for the effect to take place, retards.

This is bad because discolock is bad, and because you can just randomly discard this.
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Did you notice that Deathstalker Rexxar looks better with every revealed card?
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>>183785163
C'mon, man. These cards are so boring in comparison to Un'Goro. That's just a worse version of Death's Bite.
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>>183785163
Fake and gay
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>>183785275
yeah, if they actually took the time to make it good then it'd be something. Why give warlock a special mechanic of risk reward with all the risk and almost no reward?
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>>183785275
>it's not bad for those reason, but for those other reasons

thanks sherlock
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>>183785163
fake and gay
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>>183784015
The lifesteal makes it a little less than terrible, but the fact that you can accidentally discard it while it's in your hand the first 5 turns really kind of shits on the whole idea.
At least you can keep adding attack to it after you play it.
Maybe I'll actually craft that stupid goddamn warlock quest, I already have Clutchmother
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>>183785292
It's almost like it's the only card revealed so far that isn't lazy shit
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>>183785292
So far it's the only card I want to actually try in a deck.
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>>183785321
>>183785397
I think so too because it lacks the deathrattle icon. Gaara is revealing a card in 30 minutes apparently.
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>>183785395
>spout retarded shit
>get corrected
>waaah
Kill yourself retard.
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>>183785406
Save your dust bro.
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>>183785275
>discard half you deck and get her out with like +20
>lol polymorph

GG RETARDED WASTE OF A FUCKING CARD JUST LIKE FUCKING BOLVAR BECAUSE YOU CAN TO WAIT A FUCKING TURN AND HE WAS ALREADY FRAGILE AS FUCK TO BEGIN WITH
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>>183785269

it's alright. combos with 'damaged minion' effects and weapons are generally not bad.
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>>183785505
not even the guy you replied to earlier, but I'm glad you're that mad

just don't break anything around the house or MOM'S GONNA FREAK
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>>183785292
>people iffy about the hunter deathknight
>reveal garbage to make people appreciate it more
was this brode's plan all along?
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>>183785275
Plus even if you buff it, it doesn't do anything the turn you play it. all that build up for nothing.
Shit card, shit class in this new meta.
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>>183784015
>>183785163
Blizzard was a mistake
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>>183785163
This would be cool if

1. It was real
2. You could adapt weapons (which, come to think of it, would be a really. Only taunt and divine shield doesn't really make sense, but they could be a one hit immunity?)
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>>183785185
>both Legendaries
>budget
I think you meant to just say 'worse Bolvar'
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>>183784015
So if she gets discarded and that other dethrattle guy brings her back, does she have the buff?
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>These cards
>yfw the legendary you get in the first 10 packs is the warlock one
I hope no one pre-ordered
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>>183785767
Yes because the buff isn't reliant on her being in your deck or hand
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>>183785767
yes, but you also will probably discard cruel dinomancer too
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>>183785275
>change Bolvar to be buff-able when anywhere in the deck
>get out a 1billion/7 late game consistently
>still dies instantly
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Anyone else hates Lick King?
Guy can't design cards for shit.
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>>183785951
I just hope they don't fuck up the lich king card. Honestly it'll probably be like jaraxxus and the new death knights where it replaces your hero.
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>>183785364 >>183785395 >>183785578 >>183785620 >>183785919
GUYS STOP BEING RETARDED
IT IS LITERALLY HEAL FOR WARLOCK
CARD IS GOING TO BE PLAYED FOR SURE
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>When Guldan is already out of the meta but Blizzard wants to make sure Guldan is extra dead
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>>183785620
5 mana cards can still be good even if they do nothing the turn you play it., though they need to be fairly powerful. Highmane is a pretty good example of this, and it costs one mana extra.

The lifesteal helps too since part of the problem of slow plays like that is that you get rushed down, so at least you can heal a little on the following turn. But despite this, it's most likely not impactful enough. Maybe if it had taunt.

Regardless, discard is inconsistent shit.
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>>183785778
>yfw you fear dusting it from worry of getting it from a pack again
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>>183786045
>Discards legendary
Opps
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>>183786045
it is but you have to think of 2 things. One is lifesteal is the new mechanic so there is probably going to be more. second is that it needs build up on a gambling mechanic that could get rid of the card in the first place.
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>>183785919
>eats a removal intended for tirion
Sounds good to me.
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>>183786208

you don't have infinite deck space and those big bulky cards that do nothing in control matchups except eat a removal will sit in your hand while you get raped by aggro decks
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I bet you money we'll get some kind of Warlock card like
>3 mana, recover two discarded cards
Or something like that
There's got to be some way to save Discard Lock that they've figured out
Un'goro has been great so I've got no reason to doubt them
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>>183786045
>Relies on inconsistent discard mechanic.
>has a chance to itself be discarded.
>does nothing the turn you play it.

OK anon, enjoy
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>>183785746
Flamestrike and meteor are bigger bullshit especially if created by.
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>>183786350
>3 mana, recover two discarded cards
How is that any better than the revive mechanic?
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>still pushing discolock
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>>183786350

that would literally take away the penalty for discarding cards

it's really bad design, so I wouldnt put it past blizzard
>>
5 mana x/6 Lifesteal

What does X have to be for it to be a competitive card, in your opinion?
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>>183785275
Bolvar was bad because you spent forever building him up and then it just got transformed anyway, and this new card has the exact same problem. Don't call people retard when you're one yourself, retard.
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>>183786520
no it wouldn't

you'd still be down a card AND 3 mana
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>>183786546

it could be 30 mega windfury and it wouldn't change a thing
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>>183786546
4
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>clutchmother is designed perfectly for the discard mechanic
>still isnt used because discard mechanic is fucking retarded
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>>183786520
>that would literally take away the penalty for discarding cards
also guess which card is the only one even remotely holding Discolock together now
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>>183786045
it would be playable if it had charge
its complete trash
ive actually tried discard warlock (not just disco zoo)
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>>183786680
Discard needs to not be random, then it would be a good mechanic
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>>183786747
This.
Nerf some discard cards and let warlocks choose what they discard
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>>183786546
3 would be good enough I think. It would usually trade with a couple of minions so you'd be healed for 6 which is reasonable.
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>>183786680
it is used, but it never goes beyond 4/4
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>>183786573
Bolvar was bad because "while in your hand" is not only an inconsistent mechanic, but it also gives you worse hands because you're inclined to keep a high cost card in your hand. This is why thing from below and arcane giant are good, but knight of the wild is bad.

Bolvar probably could've worked in a relatively aggressive paladin deck that would've shitted him out as a +6/7 on t5, forcing the opponent to waste their entire turn on removal.
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>>183786689
>>183786613


that's not really the same
in hearthstone discarding is a big deal because it eats into the very limited supply of some potentially important cards

making discard a separate "space" where cards can be put away then fetched at your leisure would be extremely powerfull
>>
I'm getting a bad feeling about this expac. Unless the next 100-odd cards are amazing HS is going to be pretty bad for the next few months.
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>>183786921
>"opponent wastes whole turn removing new warlock lego"
>your follow to their wasted turn is looking at an empty deck with no cards to play

Wow discard mechanic so op you are just fucking outplaying yourself
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>>183787052
6 more months of jade druid anon
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>>183786747
Non-random discard would only be fair if the cards that benefit from being discarded were completely removed from the game. It would simply be retarded OP if you could CHOOSE to discard your Clutchmother or Slilverware Golems or Fists every single time you discarded a card. It would basically no longer be a downside at all but actually an upside, meaning that they would need to nerf all the cards that made you discard your cards to have terrible stats to make it balanced.

Cards that benefit from being discarded and non-random discard can not co-exist without being broken. Team 5 had a choice of which of these two avenues they could pick to try to make Discard better and they chose the one that wouldn't require them to do any extra coding work like adding the ability to pick specific cards in your hand when resolving an on-field effect as a mechanic.
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>>183786921
Bolvar was also game losing topdeck half of the time
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>>183787073
Looks like it's impossible to even try to argue here without getting strawmanned every post. I already said that the card was bad, but claimed that some of you retards said it was bad for the wrong reasons.
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>>183787052
You did not expect them to release two quality expansions in a row did you?
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>>183787197
lets not forget
>handbuff offers him a chance to shine, at least in wild
>handbuff ends up being awful
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>>183787274
It is bad cause it is still a single target that can be removed and it gimmick relies on a very RNG mechanic.
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>>183787298
>quality
>released hot garbage that once again messed up arena and once again resulted in a same expac nerf
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>>183784015
Well it looks like blizzard won't drop the discard theme no matter what.

I wonder how long it will take for them to change the way discard works so you can have any form of control on what to discard. Because if they don't, warlock seriously will have a hard time being viable again. At least until the next standard rotation.
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>>183787298
> Karazhan
> quality expansion
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>>183784015
>another HS semen demon who won't get any lewds
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>>183787542
Just fucking check the wow tag you dumbshit
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>>183786689
Maybe if that was made into a passive hero power then disco would have a chance.
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>>183784015
>A LITERAL DEMON QUEEN
>NO DEMON TAG


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS SHIT UP
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>>183787667
>pay 2 health discard the top card off your deck
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>>183784015
I just don't understand what they were thinking with discard. It makes absolutely no sense to me. If they make it so that certain cards can't be discarded or there are too many that get buffed or played when they are discarded, the mechanic becomes overpowered but fun. In its current state its fucking terrible and not at all fun. I played with Clutchmother for ages and the biggest I ever managed to get her was 10/10 in a game that i then immediately lost. Terrible idea.
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another expansion in which the meta will be jades
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>>183787724
THESE CARDS ARE BASED OFF OF WOW LORE YOU DUMBSHIT.

LADY LANATHEL AND HER COHORTS WERE ELVES THAT WERE KILLED AND BROUGHT BACK AS UNDEAD BY THE LICH KING.

UNDEAD AND DEMON ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS
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>>183787745
Pretty good idea
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>>183787724
hearthstonebabbies should kill themselves
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>>183785028
Hunter hero is trash unless they add like 5 broken control cards so that control hunter can have a win rate over 20%.
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Oh hurr i just got the joke. Hearthstone is dieing hence why all the heroes are dieing this expansion.
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>>183787724
If they don't look like a blue Klingon or Satan itself, they're not a humanoid Demon.
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>>183787878
>>183787980

Last time I checked this was Hearthstone, not Hearthstone: Heroes of Warcraft :^)
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>>183788203
>release 3 comics based on post wow era azeroth
>"its hearthstone not warcraft guise"
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>>183785163
>2017
>They print an almost replica of a card they printed in 2014 with worse stats.

It would literally require special effort to create such uninspired cards. How is it that they can demand money for cards this generic and boring. How is it that people still pay for this. I can't fucking understand REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>183788334
Reminds me of MTG where lightning went from 1 to 3 mana
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>>183787456
>Arena
Who fucking cares
>>183787523
I'm talking about un'goro. It's good looking at what we had for couple past expansions. And i know better than to believe that KotFT will be half as good as un'goro was. Blizzard thinks the theme itself will carry the expansion revenue probably.
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>>183785880
>>183785914
Is it the same for clutchmother whatsername
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>>183788001
It doesn't need to be control, midrange Hunter will probably be okay with a Deathstalker Rexxar given how they currently run. For any opponents that survive the initial Highmane, or for opponents aggressive enough that the player is about to die.
But yeah, wish we had any other actually interesting cards to talk about.

>>183788334
We already knew they'd start doing this once the Formats system was implemented. And they already have.

>>183788393
Oh yeah, MtG's done a ton of this over the many years. Looking through some of their initial cards is a real nostalgic experience for that.
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>>183788537
except you know arena is like how you avoid giving blizzard money
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>>183788551
no because hearthstone is retarded. even though discards stack on clutchmother, cruel dinomancer only summons it as a 2/2, even if you discarded it as a 4/4.

If you guys want to speculate on discolock, ask yourself this about the card, does it make cruel dinomancer more consistent? if the answer is no, the card is trash. because cruel dinomancer is the only thing making discard worth playing.
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>all this rank 30 theorycrafting ITT
>muh combo control Hunter new meta
I love reveal season.
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>>183788775
And then after all's said and released, the actual useful cards/decks that come to the forefront are even more obnoxious than we imagined.
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>>183788568
I don't understand how you could think Hunter hero would be good in current Midrange Hunter, it doesn't really impact the board, takes up a crucial midgame turn, is slow as fuck, and gets rid of your secondary win condition in many important matchups
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>>183788775
>muh combo control Hunter new meta
I dont see anyone ITT saying control hunter is good, less alone combo control or whatever.
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>>183788568
Aggro is still going to wreck everything even with lifesteal mechanic. I bet there is going to be at least one hero card that supports aggro.
>>183788651
If you don't buy packs all the time like a retard and gather gold from rerolled dailies alone you have enough gold to have at least 5 viable decks everytime.
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>>183784015

>Try to meme with her.
>First card discarded.

How can blizzard be this retarded.
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>>183786045
>It's literally heal for warlock.

This card will be either discarded before it can be played or instagibbed the moment it touches the board. 8 out of 10 times it is in your deck it will be an absolute garbage.

Also it doesn't have taunt. Which means if you play it on curve, te enemy will be still free to attack and burst your face to oblivion. If you can miraculously survive, the next turn you can heal for an average amount of 4!! (four!!) since it is extremely unlikely that you discarded more than 3 cards before turn 5 (not to mention the possibility of discarding this card before you can play it).

Even in the best case scenario this card can't help beat the memest of the meme decks.
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>>183788975
>get gud in arena
>at worst youll just end up with your gold refunded and one card pack

Its not that hard anon
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>>183784015
How hard was it to giver her taunt to make her actually viable sometimes
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>>183789169

You also need to play 7 games of RNG galore.
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>>183786102
Highmane is good because even if you deal with it, it leaves 4/4 worth of body behind which can also trigger beast synergy cards for extra burst.

90% of the time this card won't be able to even attack, and 50% of thse time it will be discarded without being played anyway.
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>>183786064
Zoo only needs a few stupid tempo cards for early game to be busted again desu, it could very likely happen
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>>183739902
go to bed reynigger
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>>183789284
Zoo is not discardlock.
Discardlock is not Zoo.
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>>183789169

dont you need 7 wins to be refunded in gold
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>>183784015

>Warlock hero confirmed to be disco.
Make it end
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>>183789236
BITCH SHUT THE FUCK UP THIS WHOLE FUCKING GAME IS RNG
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>>183786350
>I've got no reason to doubt them

Was Un'goro your first expansion?
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>>183789169
It's a magefest. And to be refunded you need to win 7 games. If you have bad luck you end up with a pack you could buy anyway without having to waste time.
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>>183789350
Depends on a roll, to be honest.
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>>183784015
AHAHHAHAAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


JUST CANT WAKE UP H


HAHAHAAHHAHAAHHAAHAH
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>>183789381
Yea but grinding in constructed does not cost you anything.
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>>183789350
you could still end up winning like 5-6 and getting two packs and gold from it'
>>183789391
its better time wasted because at least you can get better at drafting and deck making and eventually just be able to do arena runs back to back
>>183789506
griding in constructed doesnt pay out either after a certain point
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Deathknight warlock hero power: Discover a card you've discarded this game.

You heard it here first guys.
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>>183787052
It's always this way, the OP cards like Drake and relevant early drops weren't revealed until the card dump at the end.

I'm fine with having a less powercreeped expansion, wotognl was that way and it turned out quite decent in a subtle way.

Hard to top the balance of JUG- I bet they make Warlock better before they do Hunter
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>>183789506
>grinding constructed does not cost you anything.
Your time, energy, and soul.
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>>183789265
Highmane can still eat a poly/hex/sap. But yes, stickiness is one thing that allows high mana slow plays. Another one is sheer power. Fel reaver saw play, and now bittertide hydra sees play, simply because dealing with a 8 health minion on turn 5 is pretty hard. Unfortunately, the new lock card isn't quite that powerful regardless of its attack.
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>new mode, like standard and wild called advanced
>graveyard pile,discard pile
>every "random" card lets you target a card instead, be it discard, resurrect or whatever

would this save hs?
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>>183789360
>>183787485
Guys, guys.
What if the Warlock hero is disco-related AND it has something along the lines of 'you choose which cards you discard'?
Could be cool?
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>One of the most well known and iconic bosses of ICC
>wasted again thanks to Mr Brode

THEY CANT KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS.

Flame Leviathan
Nefarian
Wrathion
Blood Queen Lana'thel now

STOP BRODE
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>>183789776
It's 10 mana, so no.
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>>183789616

silly anon, that would make disco relevant.
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>>183789654
Arena does the same. I want to stop playing but invested too much of my time and effort to just let it go.
>>183789616
Battlecry: Summon minions you discarded this game.
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>>183789773
Too confusing for new players
The technology isn't there yet
Mobile client doesn't support it
You think you want this but you don't
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>>183778816
Ayy this will fill my enrage warrior deck nicely
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>>183786747
Or instead of choosing what to discard, there should at least be some cards that interact with the discarding process to make it less random like pic releated or a variation of it.
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>>183789506
>need 30 wins to get the equivalent on 1 dollar
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>>183789661
bittertide is good because it becomes a giant asshole on the board when played on curve.

Obviously they havent released the full card list yet but by going off what discard cards we have so far YOU CANT FUCKING PLAY LANATHEL ON CURVE which defeats of purpose of making its a 5 drop with 1 attack
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>>183789350
if you get 7 wins you get 150 gold and a pack
but you always get a pack so if you only get 50 gold you are even compared to just buying packs from the store
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If sindragosa's attack line is not "BETRAAAAAAYS YOU", I'm quitting this game forever
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>>183789895
Can you even fucking follow conversations you retard? How many times do I need to say that the card is shit.
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Hey guys I'm Andrey Yanyuck, also known as 'Reynad', the founder of the esports team 'Tempo Storm'. Some of you may recognize me from my streams twitch, where I incessantly whine and cry about every minutiae that goes unfavorably. Some of you old school Magic players may remember when I was banned from the tournament scene for getting caught cheating at a Pro Tour.
Despite my conceited nature and strong opinions on Hearthstone, I only play the game 10 hours a week while I'm streaming. If I lost a game, it's because my opponent got lucky and/or is sniping.
Also, be sure to check my website, Tempo Storm, where we go to great length to ensure our meta snapshot decklists are off the standard lists by at least 4 cards.
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*blocks ur path*
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>>183789896

Yeah but in that case you could have just bought the pack and skipped the terrible experience that is ungoro arena
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>>183789896
>go six wins
>get two card packs and 60 gold

If you arent bad arena is better
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>>183789329
>Kara style zoo with 4 discard synergy cards thrown in + soulfire never existed in the meta

Gee. I'm saying that it's impossible to keep it down forever, they had to print literally 0 early minions or tempo spells for warlock to get it this way.
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>>183789776
>discard the Warlock hero

I feel like 'discard the X disco synergy card you needed' is going to be a new thing here.
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>>183789823
>blood queen
>iconic
?

I was just given that buff immediately and then I would go pewpew dps. I barely remember a thing about the fight.
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>>183790005
i agree if you hate arena that you shouldnt play it
but it is a way to get packs and gold if you are gud
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>>183789969
I understand why you might think lanathel has potential but im telling you her mana cost does not correlate with her effect and its just overall bad
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>>183790091
>i agree if you hate arena
What if I hate Hearthstone
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>>183789383
It's the most recent one, so I'm sure they've got at least some idea of where they want to take things.
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>>183790120
You're just repeating what I'm saying, genius.
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>>183789995
*plays second Deathwing*
Aha, gotcha now.
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>>183789391
As long as you make it to 3 wins or more, you get the same value you'dve gotten from just buying a pack outright instead of the arena run
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>>183790174
Nobody likes hearthstone. You play because you feel the need to. It's like alcoholism.
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>>183790174
if you hate hearthstone maybe go to a different general? or go to v?
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Warlock hero is discard n'zoth with discover a discarded card hero power.

Hope you guys like disco inferno.
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Is there anything more pathetic than someone who doesn't like a video game, but wants to talk about it all day?
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>>183789823
>>183790086
after running over 1000 of every instance, it all just sort of blends together for me.
and people call Hearthstone grindy.
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>>183790290
If you like hearthstone, I've got a good place for you.

>>>/r/hearthstone
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>>183790202
>half the posts are agreeing with you and just adding to your point
>"asshole stop insulting me i aint dumb" ~ you
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>>183790370
It isn't our fault that Hearthstone became so bad it is more fun to just talk about it now.
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>>183767468
I think I almost rather that than the damn tokens everywhere.
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>>183790370
Is there anyone more pathetic than Hearthstone players? I have literally never met one who wasn't 14 years old, an unemployed manbaby, or a meme spouting Redditor.
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>>183790370

standard procedure fir a game you used to like that got fucked over by shitty dev decisions
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>>183790370
>play game on and off since alpha
>was super hype about the icc expansion
>end up being mad that they are fucking killing this game with their bad decisions
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>>183790440
Maybe if you 1) stopped repeating the exact same things I said worded differently for no reason 2) implying I think the new card is good, I'd stop calling you a retard.
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>>183790642
No one is forcing you to respond dipshit
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HEY GUYS HERE AN IDEA, WHY DON'T WE TRY TO WORK TOGETHER IN ORDER TO IMPLEMENT THOSE NEW CARDS IN DECKS?
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Did someone say "fake shitty Death's Bite"?
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I can't believe they took death's bite and made it less effective and reprinted it.

That's pretty hilarious
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>>183790328
>discover a discarded Clutchmother
>discard it more
>repeat in any order
>mfw infinite Clutchmothers
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>>183789773
> every "random" card lets you target a card
Mana Wyrm into Glyph into Glyph into Glyph into Glyph into Glyph into Glyph into Glyph into Glyph into Glyph into Glyph into Glyph into Glyph into Glyph into Glyph into Glyph into Glyph into Glyph into Glyph into Glyph into Glyph into Glyph into Glyph into Glyph into Glyph into Glyph into Glyph into Glyph into Glyph into Glyph into Glyph into MY MAGIC WILL TEAR YOU APART
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>>183790526
>tfw all three
FeelsGoodMan Kek KAPPA DESU
>>
The next expansion is shaping up to be bad but it will have some must have cards to force players who want to stay relevant to purchase packs.
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>>183790780
and now you know what playing modern MtG feels like.

>>183790764
Sure.
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>>183790752
Retards need to know they're retards or they'll never learn. You don't tolerate stupidity. Otherwise you'll just get more and more of them.
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>>183790771
she has a chin that puts jay leno to shame
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>>183790867
lmao i have 8k dust i aint buying shit Brode
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>>183790764
>work together
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>>183790498
>>183790770
>>183790942
Filtered.

FeelsGoodMan
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>>183790769
That's awful unless Warrior gets some serious ping synergy in this expansion.

Death's Bite was good because it was a 4/2, this is the same cost and is only a 2/2 with the only addition being a second ping as a battlecry.
What a shit card.
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>>183790935
you are trying to educate someone on a malaysian basket weaving forum. You really need to get you priorities straight
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>>183787298
sauce?
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>>183790769
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>>183790769
Very good with nothing.
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>>183791043
>>183790769
This is going to be the card that's secretly good that everyone said was bad. It's not death's bite but having multiple whirlwinds is going to be great.

Think of how good this would be at clearing pretty much any board early game. This card can let you stall almost by itself from a murloc or token invasion
>>
>>183790769
Oh look now they are making obsolete versions of wild format cards thanks blizzard
>>
Since it's a legendary it should have "Cannot be discarded". It's as simple as that to make it not be pure fucking garbage.
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>>183791258
4 mana consecration
>>
>>183790769
>>183785292
>>183785117
>>183784015
>>183778816
>>183762814
>>183748732
nice fucking expansion
into the trash it goes
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>>183790771
Incredibly OP.
At that point it's almost as strong as Jade.

>>183791043
>serious ping synergy
I'll definitely try it in Wild with the ol' Grim Patron. Hope it doesn't clog things up too much with Death's Bite still in the 4-cost weapon slot.
Can't remotely think of any other deck I'd want it in.
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>>183790769
For some reason I thought this was a warlock card... oops
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>>183790764
Okay... here is an idea!
> Play Deathwing
> Discard Your Hand
Blood-Queen Lana'thel now is 10/6 for 5 mana.
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>>183790769
>>183791043
>>183791120
>>183791181
>>183791258

TOP KEKS can't even see the potential:

>Get your wepons better with warrior cards giving weapons +1/+1
>Play this weapon and fiery war axes
>Combo this card with ''swim w/ fishes'' OR ''King Mosh''
>Actually not a bad control card
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>>183791332
They've been doing that since Formats were released, Anon.
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>>183791609
I just said it was good
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>>183790769
Oh god, Please don't make a patron style card... Please....
>>
>>183791332
It's for the new players who never got to experience Naxx
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>>183791601
but then
>draw blood queen
>now that synergy is fucked
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>>183791704
why the fuck did they even remove the old adventures?
>>
>>183791601
>have small hand somehow
>draw blood queen first
>opponent hexes/polymorphs/vilespines both and now youre out of power
>>
>Dust off the Frozen Throne
>Knights of the Dust Throne
>Knights of the Frozen Dust
>>
>>183791609
It's good but boring. Warriors like weapons and whirlwind effects, ok we get it.
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>>183791945
Throne of the frozen dust
>>
>>183785117
You know at a minimum this card needed "This card can not be discarded" added to it's card text. Because regardless of how useless the discard mechanic is the worst thing about this card is that if you draw it before you've discarded a decent amount of cards you basically HAVE to play it before you can discard any more cards or you risk discarding it before you can benefit from the attack it gained from everything else you discarded.

I mean come on Team 5, it's a fucking legendary, giving it a unique "Can not be discarded" clause would be perfectly appropriate and then it might actually be playable (Gimmicky Deathwing with an undiscardable legendary that gains heaps of extra attack from your other discards springs immediately to mind. Imagine how much fun that deck could have been.)
>>
>>183791945
>>183792021

>The Frozen Khights Dust Off
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>>183791945
The Lich Kings Grand Dust Extravaganzae
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>>183790769
It's actually the best of revealed cards so far.
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>>183792113
The nights of frozen dust
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>>183792196
How sad. an average card is the best we've seen
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>>183791764
Because they were too good and they need to sell those preorders somehow.
>>183792207
That sounds like a coke party.
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>>183792196
and that's sad.
Deathstalker Rexxar is still fun though and I'll probably try to make a deck focused on it if I get one. The whole Zombeast thing seems like it could be really fun for the occasional crazy charging flappy bird memes.
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>>183791764
I've been trying to figure that out for over a year now.
>could have a nice fat pack of Free Adventures for newer players to experience which maybe offer some small prize for completion but otherwise have their rewards removed
>get a richer single-player experience that helps get more people into the game

Instead, with what I know now I guess they wanted to re-release them someday for cost if Wild picked up in popularity? Like they are now? I don't know.
Relates to the whole initial claim Blizz had of 'people will be too confused if we keep Wild content on sale' which like the old 9 deck slots philosophy is doing a complete about-face.
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>>183792109
>Imagine how much fun that deck could have been.
"Fun" cards are listed under "rngfest swings that insta win/lose you the game" for Blizzard.
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>>183792325
I wonder if the legendary heroes will be available in arena draft
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New thread chums
>>183792380
>>183792380
>>183792380
migratio
>>183792380
>>183792380
>>183792380
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>>183792294
The real cancer is always in Facebook dumps like Glyph, Fledgeling STB and others.
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>Brode
"Allow me to help you dust off your Citadel Arthas"
>2 months later
"Is that what you ment Ben?"
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>>183792385
I'd say so. they might make them really rare though.
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>>183792442
Arthas would've taken care of it himself. But he's so busy with his current business ventures. An e-sports team? An ice cream shop? An enigma on a Facebook group? AND he's still trying to apply for more jobs?

Your... your thing was funnier.
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>>183791945
>>183792113
>>183792207

>tighteners honk zorn off
>tighteners horn off ok zn
>greenhorns fifth knot oz
>strengthen honk zoo if rf
>foreshorten king of th zn
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>>183785117
>It's not a battlecry
Just discard shit after you play it
>>
brode has fucking lost it, this expansion looks absolutely shit tier

>hurr durr make a DK themed expansion that way we can just put a load of unplayable trash in it and reddit will still preorder it
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