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>Thought the status buildup with THE SKULL IN IT didn't mean anything
>>183634501

>READ ME BEFORE POSTING, IF YOU'RE NEW
https://pastebin.com/Txe190aw

>Character Planner
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/

>DARK SOULS 3
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u8Mak1goSv4g73g16XsWV4sJelDQUatWkP2kcO6GVAA/pub
>Full Soundtrack
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B66vvDQ_rAMyS29wdTR6ajZsczQ

>DARK SOULS 2
https://pastebin.com/FiDXYjfs

>DARK SOULS
https://pastebin.com/Rtb5w9yS

>DEMON'S SOULS
https://pastebin.com/tehcGm75

>BLOODBORNE
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sItpr6PHpoEiFbtFIBtPO4UNeNEpxuztHteANTJRHDU/edit#heading=h.od90ylbez0rz
Bloodborne discussion is welcome here, but you'll get more help in their general: >>>/vg/bbg

>KING'S FIELD
http://pastebin.com/G8zw0sc3

>COMMUNITY
Discord (READ THE README BEFORE JOINING): https://discord.gg/C3AX2Hk
Player list: https://pastebin.com/9hG50KHX
Steam group: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/DarkSoulsGeneral
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>the rabid DaS2fag who ruined /dsg/ still at it on /v/ threads
lmao, 2 years later still mad that DaS2's "lore" and the """"""very interesting""""" Aldia (non)ending was rightfully ignored
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Why do Basilisks fart so much?
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>>183725262
What do you think they smell like? Asking for a friend haha!
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>>183725240
Aldia's ending is DS2's canon ending.
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>>183725456
There's not a single mention of Aldia in DS3.
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>>183725456
DaS2 is not canon
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Guise I really want a fun class to play invasions with, I'm not into sorcery/pyroshit if anything spell related it's lightning for me

Used to play a lot with Gotthards Dual weebs and mura but I'm tired of those
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Why do people think Dark Souls 3 has good bosses when its the same simon says press roll not to die shit repeated more than a dozen times with slightly varied timings? Why do people dismiss the few bosses in the game that actually deviate from this formula as "gimmick bosses"?
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How much do you think they would ruin a ds1 remaster?
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>tfw sl25-30 is the comfiest range but I must keep going
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>>183725682

Either make a pure FAI build and abuse death drops with force, outlast with healing, punish rolls and distracted opponents with Lightning arrow, punish greed rushers with Lightning Storm and get counter hits with Sunlight Spear/Lightning Stake

Or make an STR/FAI build with 11 INT to use the Heavy Murky Hand Scythe for fighting people with high poise and Ultra Weapons, Heavy Saint Bident for high damage outspacing, Spiked Mace/Splitleaf Greatsword for 1-combo kills, Great Mace for trading, along with things like Vow of Silence if you run into a group relying on a healer
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>tfw pc is good enough to emulate DeS at 25-30FPS
>tfw getting comfy with my royalty utterly fucking annihilating everything
So far only boletarian palace had considerable fps drops, it's amazing what those guys did with emulator in a single fucking month.
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>>183725802
Mostly because people want to fight bosses that build on the skills they have build up over the course of the game rather than bosses that mostly ignore what has been established.
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New spell buff table
contact Onion caster for possible mistakes
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>>183726163

I know that feeling man, I took my latest build out of there after I'd finished the main game, the 1st DLC, and gotten to the 1st boss of the 2nd DLC, simply because I was too tired to keep trying to beat him with +4 raw weapons

I still regret it, every time a PW summoned phantom got salty I'd just send a picture of my character at the final bonfire
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https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/225987

Will I have fun?
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Lads I'm the luckiest guy in the world.
Within the span of 10 minutes I got a Heavy Crossbow from the Cathedral Knight from the FIRST KILL and got summoned as a Bluecuck and got double ears from that.
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>>183726948

You posted this last thread and apparently made adjustments, where did your changes go
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How unusable are whips in DaS1? Completely even for PvE?
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>>183725953
no need for a remaster, it would be a waste of ressources
that shit is cancer
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Cute
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>>183725682
>fun class to play invasions with

Only one answer then comrade.
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>>183726532
dodging is not a skill in dark souls 3. skills are transferable, if i'm good at dodging attacks then i should be able to go into different boss fights and do about as well in each of them

dark souls 3 bosses are about learning and memorising the timings of the attacks so you know when to dodge, it's a completely artifical way to extend the length of the game by making it so the game gets a few almost guaranteed deaths in while you're learning the bosses movesets. a good dark souls 3 player can go into a new boss similar to all the others and get annihilated simply because they don't have the knowledge of what to do to avoid damage (lobos playing through ashes of ariandel is a good example of this)
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>>183726163
>tfw SL50 for pontiff shenanigans but 500k souls
I might just fuck around and invest in a bunch of titanite
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>>183724990
>kill mythic raid boss after 100 tries in World of Warcraft
>meh
>kill boss in DS after 40 tries
>OMFG YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS! FUCK YEAH WOOHOOO FUCK YESSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!

anyone else? Why is this?
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>>183727384
I can learn how to learn a boss and how to dodge it's attacks in a single fight. That is a skill you pick up in Souls games if you play enough of them.
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>>183727138
That's so weird that's not even mine

Here's pic of talents, wep is dark murakumo
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>>183727545
MMO gameplay is not really exciting
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>>183727384
Learning bosses moveset is pretty easy desu just stay out of range for a while, the only one who can punish for this is sully with his retarded instant dash
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>>183727545
Are you the Reviewbrah anon in bbg?
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Is the DS3 DLC worth getting? Season pass is on sale for 12 bucks
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>>183726163

I miss invading cathedral of the deep. I should make a dedicated invasion character for it. Do you think pure dex would be the best for that range.
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>>183726994

>Post luck stories

I've once gotten all 30 ears during the span of a single overly long fightclub that I'm 95% sure the host only kept going because I wasn't dying, given that he congratulated me via message after I left. And I wasn't dying because every person I fought consistently and without fail made some kind of weird, inexplicable error once if not multiple times that I could capitalise on

I was either the luckiest little thing around that day or most of them threw the fight

>>183727634

Use deep if those are your stats, you get dark damage without worrying about scaling

Here's an image showing a potential build
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>>183728054
Ariansel is meh but adds some fashion and weps, bosses are garbage

Ringed city is meh, but adds lots of fashion and weps, Gael is fun and you can make a twink for the boss covenant and ruin everyone's progression, and Gael is a fun fight

Worth it? Not really, but who doesn't have 12 dollars
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>>183728054
Season pass is the only way to get it. AoA is not worth the individual asking price, and TRC only barely makes up for it.
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>>183728054
Ringed city is kinda worth it
AoA is not worth it

However, AoA is worth 2-3 bucks, which is how much you'll basically be paying for it if you buy the season pass on sale.

So yes, if not for values sake, then for completionist sake instead.
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>>183724990
>Get invaded by yet another fucking Guts.

>Get cheesed.

>Points down.

I hate Guts cosplayers desu. Mostly because it's so fucking overdone like jesus. I get invaded by a Guts like every minute.
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>>183728265
Gucc,i when I said dark mura I meant deep
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>>183727545
Yes. Killing dlc bosses at low sls feels like when I did difficult raids back in WoW. Or how it was to finish near wipes in a difficult 5man.
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>>183728408
Why cosplay any character at all?
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>>183728408

Good, gives you plenty of time to practice avoiding a UGS that can be countered by proper rolling and/or the quickstep WA like most if not all other Ultra Great Weapons
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>>183728649
???

I don't quite get your meaning.
I'm not saying cosplay is fucking bad i'm saying do a cosplay other than fucking Guts. I mean if you want to be an unoriginal cuck go for it but i'd prefer a cosplay nobody has seen yet besides just nothing but fucking Guts, Guts and Guts all day.
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>>183728649
Fun, I have a twink creighton and Hodrick cosplay and I usually get some messages about it being funny
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>>183727958
Maybe not if you're a casual but vanilla wow was pretty good if you were in a high end raiding guild.

They dumbed everything down though because only a few guilds or less could run the more difficult content on each server.

As far as I know it stayed easy mode for many expansions
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>>183728692
>the quickstep WA
anyone who uses this shit, especially against ultra great weapons, deserves all the point downs the earth may muster
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>>183728032
nah

>>183727958
yeah that's true, DS requires much more attention, most MMO bosses are so predictable that you can do them on autopilot, even on the hardest difficulty, not saying they ain't hard, but the difficulty comes from the fact that 25 or so people have to play mediocre fight perfectly, instead of 1 person playing a difficult fight perfectly.
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>>183728408
>invade a "Gattsu" at Cathedral
>proveed to chip him down over time and beat him
>connection error
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>>183728265
>post luck stories
Not so much luck story as it is random luck/idiot opponents
>fighting on the bridge in US
>I think it was 4v1
>just mashing r1
>one of them makes the move to push me down the bridge
>accept my fate
>everyone else jumps after either because of mistake or to plunge me
>literally everyone dies
>oh wait
>I'm a silverkitty
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>>183728768
>He wants unique cosplays.

I got invaded by someone named "Hollow Soldier" on the high wall.

You can guess what he was. It was kind of amazing to be honest, wish I took a screenshot he had an almost perfect Hollow face on his character. if he was as tall of them I might have mistaken him for one of them in all honesty.
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>>183727545
>Not killing DS bosses on the first try

Is that really a thing? 40 tries? How even does one get that bad.
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>>183728795
>but vanilla was fun
No, farming all week on your free time to have mats to raid and sitting for hours waiting for all 40 to log on to have 3 things drop per boss sometimes dropping stuff one faction can't equip is not fun. At all, most of the time you didn't even get all 40 and picked up strays or tried again the next day

PvP was a shitshow you had to play wow like it was a full time job to get high ranks

The last 6months of vanilla I just sat in menethil harbor with my rogue ganking everyone and listening to their complaints with a lvl 1 dwarf on another acc
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>>183729097
I invaded a guy like that, he sat down with the other hollows on the map, took fucking ages to find him and only cuz I noticed the embers when I knew what I was looking for
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>>183728795
Out of curiosity, how did you get into that high end raiding guild? Paying money ontop of your internet fees to get the time required to get the items that made your numbers bigger?

WoW suffers from a problem where the only real game changes that occur for people who hit max level are their numbers getting bigger. Ontop of that, it started an MMO trend of locking all the more interesting content behind max level. What this means is, you're rushing through what should be the fun part of the game full of adventure and exploration to get to the end of the game where the only thing awaiting you is bigger numbers. And you have to pay for this

>>183729000
I rest my case. I also clap every time I perfect a UGS user with a dagger. Which is every time
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>>183728054
The DLCs are definitely worth the season pass, TRC is the main admission but AoA is kinda nice too I guess.

>>183728265
Maybe some of them felt pity on you for being a blue.
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>>183729123

I'm legit bad and I know you're memeing but...

>first souls game ever
>covenant of champions
>Fume Knight
>no summons
>no shield
>SL 120
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>>183729492
*unzips pocket straightsword*
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>they try to trade hits with me
>Unless they're using an ultra weapon my tiny heavy bastard sword has over 550 base physical AR and all the weight and dex I saved went into more poise and vig so I win every time
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>>183729307

You're telling me you made two accounts, and paid two separate subscriptions, real money, just so you could perform the same repetitive task of hitting maybe 1 button to kill people, so you could listen to them complain on that separate account. You ran two accounts to listen to people complain about ganking, rather than just reading forum posts venting about it for free?

And you did this because you were bored and had nothing better to do in game? For 6 months? Rather than uninstalling, and not giving them earned money for no content?

This is why I don't like MMOs
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>>183729492
>Ontop of that, it started an MMO trend of locking all the more interesting content behind max level.

this, that being said, I do enjoy exploring new MMOs with my friends, I really enjoyed leveling up in Tera recently because I did it a fellow bro.
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>>183729678
>Is losing in fightclub.


>*Unzips estoc cock.*
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>>183729001
>das fight
>having to play perfectly
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>>183729678

*parries and hornet ripostes

don't hate the player, hate the game
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>>183730130
*disconnects*
my world my rules :^)
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>>183728250
The cathedral is like 35-40, right? I'd say so yeah
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>>183730130
*resurrect*
My world my rules
! CURSED !
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>>183730113
I deliberately gimp myself so that I can't rely on Estus cheesing fights

I guess this only applies to m, I watched someone do a speed run today and was amazed to see how many hits he could take
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>>183730276

*Hosts and laughs
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>>183730360

*Reports to Capcom

Mess with the bull, get cucked like the fool
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>>183728250

I am still invading cathedral at 120, millwood gaybow with obscuring ring is hilarious for hit and run starting from the top of the stairs by the first grave warden and then back onto the roof with all the thralls and then finally plinking them off the patches bridge from outside deacons where the pews are

Also that sleeping cathedral knight you can wake him up by breaking his chair, in case you want some 3v3 action with the other cathedral knight on the staircase leading up from the giant with all the slimes
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Computer illiterate here, which CE table do I use if I just want to give myself items and how do I do it?
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Questions :
1. Does the Champion's bones / Access to the arena stay with you across NG cycles?
2. Are there any Miracles locked behind Nameless King?
3. What are the major pitfalls in getting all miracles in a single NG? I made sure to get Yuria so I could get the Londor Divine Tome but other than that am I golden?
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>>183730805
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gt4HDw_grmU
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>>183731007
Thanks will look into it
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>>183728408
>>183728649
>>183728768
Daily reminder that rping beats cosplaying
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>>183730867
1. yes
2. lightning storm, it's pretty overrated in my opinion, but some people will defend it to death
3. the major pitfall is that most of the miracles is useless and you shouldn't really bother
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>>183730867
yes, sorta, and no
you get arena into NG+ even though the bosses reset, NK soul transposes into a miracle, and make sure you get the miracle from the soul of rosaria
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Reminder DS2 has the best DLC out of every Dark Souls.

If you disagree then you're a faggot that probably couldn't get passed Sir Alonne.
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>>183729623
What is this fuss about Fume Knight? I killed him yesterday for first time and he seemed like pretty easy boss. Took me something like 10 tries.
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>>183727302
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>>183730805

Can't remember exactly which table, haven't done it in a while, but literally just spawn them in, so easy. You can fight Iudex with your preferred weapons if you like

>>183730867
1. Yes it does
2. Lightning Storm, excellent miracle that does high damage and has an AoE effect
3. You want to get the Londor Divine Tome, which you've done. You also cannot join the Rosaria's Fingers until you've gotten to the point in Sirris' questione where she gives you the Darkmoon loyalty emote. And you cannot kill Ringfinger Leonhard until the end of the Rosaria's Fingers questline. Can't let Siegward die until at least Irithyll Valley since he gives you Emit Force there
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>>183730805
The answer is don't because you'll probably just end up getting yourself banned.
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Would anyone be interested in a PCFC?
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>>183730670
I'm 85+10 on my first character and haven't got any got connects therebut maybe that's because I'm in between the 2 pools that place has action for. I don't want to go any higher. I enjoy getting lots of non-gank invasions at arch dragon peak and archives. I also get instant red sign pontif and late game/dlc boss summons.
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>>183731304
Taking 10 tries to beat a boss doesn't warrant as easy in this general.
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>>183731342

If you want to use the item swap method, just use one of the fading souls you get from the hollows at the start of the game, you're losing a hell of a lot less then
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>>183731515
Sure
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>>183731543
My bad, I should've one shotted him using the best PvE weapon in the game.

how casul of me not speedrunning the game on first playthrough
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>>183731304
I can only speak for my own experience, but here's why I found him hard:

>all of his attacks flat out 1 shot me so I had to play perfectly

>The first phase was a medium difficulty boss in itself

>learning the second phase was difficult because I'd have to first get through the first phase which killed me a lot at the start anyway, only to die instantly at the second phase to an attack I'd never seen before

>two of Fume Knight's attack hitboxes are severely bugged (hitting me with a lung when I was standing at a 90 degrees angle to it)

>way more HP than any other boss in the game

ngl I'm hot shit at this game, but that's why I found it hard anyway
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>>183731161
>>183731161
>>183731186
>>183731342

Thanks guys!
And I have to grind out the bluecucks and sunfags to get their respective miraces as well I guess but that was given.

I'm doing it mostly for the "all miracles" trophy tbqh so that's why I'm asking.
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>>183731861

You probably should have yeah. Or one-shotted him with any weapon since FK is a timing based fight rather than a DPS race

But you couldn't have, so that's moot point
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Always
Love
Karla
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>>183732246
good taste
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>>183731861
I'm not calling you bad or a casual, just saying Fume Knight isn't really an easy boss and taking 10 or even more tries to beat him is expected.
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>>183732246
Always
Forget
Nose
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>>183732246
>Defiling Alva and Zullie's kid

Karla is for befriending
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>>183732186
wow dude how can you not one shot a timing based boss without ever seeing the timing on the attacks even once

crazy am i right haha
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>>183732107

Best bet for blueberries is to start early and stay low for as long as you can. If you stick around Crucifixion Woods level (25 to 30,ish +3 to +4 weapon) you get less competition, a solid chance of getting summoned into a ganksquad for multiple ears in a single sitting, it's easy to become overpowered at that level by going 15/14 STR/DEX and using Red Hilted Halberd, Warpick, Broadsword, Longsword, Vordt's Hammer (Knight's Ring) Demon's Fist (Knight's Ring), Dark Hand, a dagger. Pick up the Eastern armour since it's lightweight, protects against bleed and has amazing slash defense
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Am I cute?
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>>183729307
>No, farming all week on your free time to have mats to raid

I honestly didn't really farm mats. It's pretty weird now that I think about it. I would pull consistently high tier dps but I almost never had full buffs from potions. I did understand my class inside and out though to a far higher degree than most and my I understood the best spell rotations and not just spamming the same ability on auto pilot like most hunters going afk during vanilla raids.

>>183729492
I was a scrub who had a lot of time and a lot of autism for wanting to be as good as theoretically possible and acquiring as much knowledge about every single thing related to my class and then other classes.

>>183729492
>Ontop of that, it started an MMO trend of locking all the more interesting content behind max level. What this means is, you're rushing through what should be the fun part of the game full of adventure and exploration

Maybe now but I played during vanilla and explored much if the content as a scrub and just wandering through zones with my younger brother and fighting random things.

One day though I eventually became very very good. I never noticed it happening until I became quite literally the best at my class on the server. I just kept fighting 1v2s and more and one day someone watching me play commented on what made me think i could win. I figured most people could win 1v2s and 1v3s or clear 5man dungeons with only 3 in a party as it was routine for me. Eventually I developed a reputation and because of my thirst for improving I began to seek stronger and stronger opponents with my skill ever growing.

By the time I began to near my limits it was pretty easy for me to join high end raiding guilds when I felt like joining one or had many friends and acquaintances who could get me in or at least brought along to fill.
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Anyone want to help me with the dancer on xb1?
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>>183732501

Well yeah, I know right? How can you not know your own i-frames by the time you've reached that area of the game? Even the music gives you cues on his attacks

Strange world mate
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>>183732782
uguuu
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>>183729806
No way you bastard sword is going to win trades against an ultra.
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>>183732327
Thanks
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Yurria is a bitch; to oblivion she and her endgame goes.
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>>183729307
By the way in high end raids there was no such thing as waiting for 40 and bringing randoms.

People came on time and their were back up people to fill in high end guilds. Kind of like bench players when an all star wasn't there this week
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>>183727545
>World of Virgincraft
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Why do people think that the Souls-like games are hard?

Bloodborne is the fourth most sold PS4 game of all time and people often argue that's the hardest of the series, how can such an accessible game possibly be considered hard?
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>>183732442
Just saying I don't think it was as hard as people say.

>>183732860
I mean how can you NOT KNOW that when he puts his sword on the ground he will shoot out damaging magic spheres moving clockwise direction at medium speed? How can it now be obvious? These fucking people man.
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>>183728272
>shit boss
Just becuase you are bad its not shit
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>>183732807

>had a lot of time and autism
>had

Read through what you just wrote, paying close attention to the points were you talked about how good you are at the game, being better than everyone else at your class, seeking stronger opponents and nearing your limits

Imagine those things coming out of the mouth of the griefer from the South Park WoW episode
And then use the correct tense of "have"
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>>183732995
she cute tho
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>>183731287
Sunken Crown is the best DS2 dlc, not Iron
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>>183733405
she has the best pose in the game
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>>183733252
Woah, how did I end up on the YouTube comment section of a video from 2006?
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>>183733436
Shulva has such a great and unique aesthetic, I fucking love going through all of it.
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>noise in Latria
Can i make it stop?
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>>183733465
yeah she does
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>>183733962
AHHHAGHGHHHHHHAH!
HELP ME!
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>>183732995
was mad when I found out that she was kathee's minion
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>>183731304
I beat him in literally one try. DaS2 babbies just try to hype him up in a desperate attempt to legitimize their crap game.
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>>183733504
Heh mad
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>>183731304
>>183732186
>>183732442

Fume Knight is a very mechanical fight. And by very mechanical I mean that he has very clear patterns in which he moves and attacks and once you know the moves it's relatively easy to avoid getting hit.

I would liken Fume Knight to Artorias / False King Allant / Ludwig / Gael where you learn the pattern of a challenging boss and he becomes easy, but it might take a while to get to that. Gael especially is a very mechanical fight and on my second playthrough of Ringu city I got him down on my third try because he has a fairly predictable sets of moves and followups and he gives you enough breathing room for you to do stuff besides reflex rolling.

On the opposite end are bosses like Flamefucker, Friede and Orphan that flail around like autists on meth and you have to have good reflexes because they're simply too fast for you to think carefully.
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>>183733331
>I don't think it was as hard as people say
>Loses 10 times, gets into a flamewar on a knitting forum over it

You're giving off mixed signals here. Also, bosses are generally measured by their difficulty to beat first time, how many tries it tends to take people to kill them, and the average experience people would have had by the time they reach him

For example, there are some bosses that are considered "Hard for an early boss" because they spike the difficulty up compared to other bosses around that gameplay period. Ruin Sentinels are commonly seen as this. There are some bosses that are considered "Easy for a late game boss" because while they may be harder than the earlier bosses, by the time you've reached them on a first playthrough you're used to the mechanics to the point where it trivialises the fight. The Rotten is often considered an example of this

You took 10 tries to beat a boss at the end of a DLC, DLC being content added on for players who've reached the end of the main game and need more to do. That is why it is considered a hard boss, because even with an entire games worth of experience behind you by that point he is still an absolute arse to fight until you've memorized everything
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>>183732491
You're right
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>>183732807
You still have autism, friend

WoW pvp also takes no skil at all. Circlestrafe and blow cooldowns.
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Does anybody else get these weird artifacts in DaS3 where random walls and objects will flash white every dozen minutes or so?
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>>183724990
Would World of Virgincraft Virgins go back to their virgeneral?
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>>183734326
>pvp takes no skill

unless you're specifically referring to how certain classes at super low skill ratings can faceroll others, I don't see how you could possibly say that given that you're facing off against other players.

>>183734507
Would normies please go back to Instagram first. Who the fuck uses virgin as an insult on fucking 4chan?
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>>183732807
Nigga 'tismed so hard he became an anime character

Get real, friendo
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>>183733329
>how can such an accessible game be hard?
Have you looked at the trophy percentages on boss completion on PSN? They are pitiful even compared to hardest DS3 bosses.

The base game in BB is not that hard unless you count some chalice bosses and if you only care about finishing the game, BB might be the easiest to clear but it has some of the series' hardest bosses especially in the DLC.

DSP straight up quit at Ludwig.
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>>183734705
>normies
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>>183734435

DaS3 has several graphical glitches.
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>>183734435

Yeah, happened while my Cousin was watching me play, he ended up having a diabetic seizure from it so we sued Midway Games for negligence

Fuck you auntie, now I'll never get a next-gen Gauntlet Game
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>>183734782
i'm sorry anon but your video card is fucked
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Hosting PC FC at High Wall right now. Place signs on the rafters near the first bonfire if you want to come, pass dsg.
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Newb here. Playing Dark Souls 1 on PC.

Help summoning Lautrec or Solaire for the Bell Gargoyle fight? Here's the thing: I have 2 humanity, I've talked to both NPCs, and I freed Lautrec. But their summon signs are nowhere to be found. Any ideas?
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>>183734021
>not Make Londor Whole Again
One job.
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>>183734753
It's funny though, DSP actually ended up getting to the 2nd phase like twice but still died. The 1st phase is actually harder than the 2nd.
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>>183734879

Only DaS3 has problems.
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>>183735258
Are you actually in human form? You have to Reverse Hollowing at a bonfire if you want to summon.
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>>183735404
>filename
kek
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>>183735474
Yeah, that's what I did. There's a big 2 on my hud in the upper left.
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>>183734228
>On the opposite end are bosses like Flamefucker, Friede and Orphan that flail around like autists on meth and you have to have good reflexes because they're simply too fast for you to think carefully
these bosses usually have one move with long recovery, the strategy is just survive until it uses that move and punish
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Why do Souls games never get boring?
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>>183735751
Post a screenshot.
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>>183735404
that's probably because it pushes your gpu temperature higher than other games
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Got one person so far in the High Wall FC, hoping for more! Pass dsg, signs on the rafters where my character is here.
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>>183735982
I got bored of DaS2 pretty quickly. I have only managed to finish it twice. Once in vanilla and once in SotFS.
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>>183733405
If only her mask actually had a plume like that instead of some raggedy hag hair
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>>183735982
demon's souls and bloodborne are fucking terribly boring
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>>183736186
>Not joining LobosJr's FC.
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>>183734270
Flamewar? What? You are the one whos saying every boss should be beat on the first try.

And what comes to FK, even though I had never seen the fight, I've seen him get praised on /dsg/ for it's difficulty, some saying it's the hardest boss in the game. And when I get to him I notice that all the difficulty is seeing every move once and then it's super fucking easy dodging the attacks. It was disappointing to see that both the other bosses were harder for me than the dreaded fume knight.

And it's completely retarded to measure the difficulty of the boss based on how many tries it takes to kill them. Maybe I would killed him in few tries if I used red iron halberd like I used in sunken king, where I one shotted literally every boss.
I think I can say that I personally find a boss easy, even if I 10 deaths because I chose to have the boss more challenging.
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Got two more people all of a sudden which is great, we could always more at the FC though, I'd love if /dsg/ got back into big FCs.
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>>183734705
I use it because it's an insult?
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>>183736651
I should be able to in 20 mins or so if it's still up.
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So if playing passive is a guaranteed win (and it is) what happens at high levels when both players know this? Do they just stare at each other until someone gets bored?
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>>183734753
Kos is not harder than Midir or Friede
Ludwig is not harder than Gael
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>>183736963
Basically.
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>>183736963
yes
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>>183733404
No. Had is past tense.
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>>183736938
Sure I'll keep it up until then, if we don't get too many more people in a half an hour though I'll close shop for now and host again on a weekend or more busy day for /dsg/.

>only 48 ips in the thread

Sad
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>>183736963
yep
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>>183736651
I'm too bad at the game, don't wanna get BTFO by pro /dsg/ players
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Anyone on ps4 wanna help me with Midir? Gonna make the pass dsg, just put your sign down in the room before the boss.
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>>183735982
I can't bring myself to replay Bloodborne, Demon Souls or Dark Souls 2, maybe because PvP is shit in these games.
First Bloodborne playthrough is a good experience though
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>>183736064

That's not true, plus I've seen other people have the same glitches, even on console, like this one. Did DaS3 suddenly break a lot of GPUs?
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>>183737179
That's fine, most players here suck anyway usually and it's all in good fun, don't feel pressured to win so long as you're enjoying yourself.
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>>183736963
I have one of these SS Daggers from my Grandpa
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>>183737275
>most players here suck

That's an understatement.
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>>183737185
>that pic

I swear half of my boss deaths are me fucking losing control and getting excited

Atrocious estus usage is another one
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Got four people now which is great, could always use more though!

>>183737428
Don't worry anon, I know you're awful and am fully supportive of it
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>>183734326
>WoW pvp also takes no skil at all

Sure, but I became literally one of the best at my class. I've also became really good at many other games and climbed leader boards in many different genre of games.

Can't an old man just tell stories about when video games were good?
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>>183735989
This what you mean?
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>Host co-oping through Irithyll
>I spawn in the church, host and his three phantoms are in the graveyard
>Kill two of his phantoms in an ambush while they fight the Irithyll Slaves in the dark room
>Host and remaining phantom run for their life
>He summons another when he gets to the fog wall at the manor
>Battle in the lake, keep trying to flank me and gets an R1 to the face every single time
>Retreat because fuck fighting a 3v1
>Throw firebombs from beyond obscuring ring range
>Phantom comes to try to fight me, gets killed
>Host summons another phantom, they all backtrack through the level chasing me, clearing out the slaves on the stairs
>Plunge attack from the rafters of the Irithyll Slave room, kill another phantom, host flees for his life back to the Distant Manor, summons another phantom while the second phantom delays me, but he runs when he realises the host has left him behind
>Second phantom mistakenly goes into the sewers, didn't see the host by the fog wall
>Follow him in and absolutely destroy him
>Return to the Distant Manor, where I find the host and his final phantom
>He has visibly given up, barely even attacks, just circlestrafes and hides behind his grass crest shield, phantom dies due to total lack of effective support, caught in rollcatch hell until he bites dirt
>Wave at the host, he makes a final attempt to kill me, eight R1s in a row as he pushes me towards the cliff
>Circle around him and cast force, he flies straight off the edge

Honestly I thought I was done with this game, but this invasion singlehandedly reignited my passion and showed me why I do what I do.

Today, I will remind them.
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>>183737185
>with Midir?

Why not just do it on your own. It's easier solo.
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>>183737428
I could destroy you with my eyes closed.
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>>183737006
>Kos is not harder than Midir or Friede
>Ludwig is not harder than Gael
What you think subjectively does not matter. However, we can't really compare the trophy percentages because the DLC bosses in 3 give no cheevoes.

>>183735349
Yeah but the fear of fucking up will be holding you back. I found myself doing the best when I knew I can get a boss consistently to second phase so I didn't worry too much and just concentrated on the boss patterns and so on.
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>>183737613
Yeah, you still aren't in human form. Go back to a bonfire, select "Reverse Hollowing," and fight your way back to there and you should be able to see the summon signs.

Just having liquid Humanity is not enough.
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>>183737797
I'm sure. Which is why I've only lost to a couple of people in /dsg/.
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>>183737179
The only way to get better is to get destroyed and then analyse the black box that you pull from the wreckage that was once your anus.
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>>183737205
Never had this on my old ass Ps4
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>>183734745
At least I have high video game power levels after all of my training.
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>>183737794
Nevermind spanked him with a random sunbro. I wanted to co-op because I've already done it solo on my first character.
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>>183738060

DSP has footage from Xbox. The screen was flashing blue and red like the police was after him.
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>>183737089
Do you think sl 85 will be high enough I have the PC
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>>183737808
huh, how can you tell, just out of curiosity?

I did do Reverse Hollowing at one point (and I thought immediately after I checked for summon signs) but I must have died first or something.

BRB gonna go try. Thanks for your help.
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>>183736528

Oh no, you shouldn't one shot every boss, no no, not at all

Just the ones you claim to be easy

And do you mean Red Iron Twinblade? As I said, the weapon doesn't matter for the fight, it's down to timings and knowing your own i-frames, it's fight that requires memorizing rather than just winging it and reacting

Aka, not an easy boss. Yes, you can probably beat him easier now, now that you've taken 10 whole tries to beat him and it's fresh in your mind. That's not the mark of an easy boss, that's the mark of an ideal endgame souls boss: One you have to beat by sheer attrition, throwing your undying body at it again and again until you've memorized what to do and how to move for each part of the fight

Took me three tries to beat him my first time going through. I used a longsword, my build was all over the place, and the only reason I was able to beat him that third time was because after the first time he killed me I knew I'd have to memorize what he was doing rather than just react to it. I was lucky in that I had enough health on my that I could survive all of his attacks, so by the third try I had a good enough idea of what to do against him that I eked out a victory. After that I managed to bonfire aescetic and beat him again for his second weapon. Do I think he was an easy boss because of that? Hell no, I just happen to have a good memory
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>>183737803
But your subjective opinion matters?
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Got over 5 people now at the PC FC which is great! Come on down if you want to join still because slots open up fast, pass dsg on the rafters again. If you aren't getting summoned make sure to post in the thread with your character name. Also if 4 people are in the world please have secondary fights in the space above the rafters so more people can get in.

>>183738241
Most people are around 120 here but 85 is fine if you have a good build, it's not super serious fights anyway so come and try it and see if you have fun.
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>host taunting me with emotes after eventually wearing me down after he drank 12 estus vs my 5
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>>183738265
>huh, how can you tell, just out of curiosity?
The Humanity counter in the top left isn't as grey if you're in human form.

Also your hands look like beef jerky. They go back to normal in human form.
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>>183738450
if you have only 5 Estus why are you not playing aggressive?
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>>183738604
because he would actually stand there and wait until the end of time before ever playing anything besides passive
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New player to the souls series. Started out with 1, went nameless because why the fuck not. So far made it to the undead parish, have some questions for you nerds.

>Is there any decent place where I've gotten so far to get armor? Right now I'm using a few shoddy pieces of hollow warrior stuff.

>Is buying the toolbox to repair weapons worth it? At 10k souls right now and it seems like a good thing to buy. I don't want a weapon I upgraded to break and not be usable ever again.

>Any place where I can sell shit? I have a ton of extra weapons and armor pieces.
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>>183738470
Thanks again man, I think I finally understand the mechanic. Just reversed hollowed myself and summoned the knights.
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>>183738201
Meh, I had my sign down. Eventually took off the password and was instantly summoned.
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>>183738816
Don't let him dictate the terms of the battle. Run away and unzip your millwood bow if the host is being a shitter.
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>>183738884
>>Is there any decent place where I've gotten so far to get armor? Right now I'm using a few shoddy pieces of hollow warrior stuff.
Armor isn't as important as weapon
>>Is buying the toolbox to repair weapons worth it? At 10k souls right now and it seems like a good thing to buy. I don't want a weapon I upgraded to break and not be usable ever again.
You can fix broken weapons with a blacksmith. Save it for later
>>Any place where I can sell shit? I have a ton of extra weapons and armor pieces.
Once you see a giant snake looking thing in firelink you can sell things.
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I didn't know the Estoc 2h dash was a two part attack, that's pretty Nito to learn.
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>>183738884
Late in the Parish there's a side path to a place called Darkroot Garden. There's a pretty good set of armor in there.

Yes, buy the repair box.

You don't meet the NPC that you can sell shit to until after you've rung both bells.
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>>183738349
Neither does mine I should've clarified.

>>183738884
You can explore Darkroot Garden near Parish for armor.

Repairbox is definitely worth it.

You can only sell shit when you have rung both bells of awakening but I would personally just straight up discard duplicates of items you don't need.
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>there are still people that try to melee Midir's ankles
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Still got a lot of signs here but slots are always opening up at the FC. Reminder to have secondary fights on the platform above the rafters here when there are four people in the world so more people can get in faster.
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>>183739579
There's a speedrunning trick in DS1 that uses the Estoc (or any other thrusting sword, but usually the Estoc because it's the first you can find), the Drake Sword, and a bow that lets you take advantage of the two-hit Estoc running attack with the much stronger Drake Sword.

I haven't followed DS1 speedrunning in a while though so I don't know if it's still widely used.
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I missed depression so much i'm glad he's back
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>>183740142
>DS3
>/dsg/ FCs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDXTJa6TrKE
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So I'm supposed to kill Sif for a ring that lets me kill the Four Kings, but before that I need to blow 20k souls on another ring, or kill Hydra?
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>>183740509
They are a treasure.

>>183740557
It's okay anon, you can come and people won't judge your build too much
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>>183736963
Basically but I've watched tournaments on yt and they limit the time to 60 or 90 s and declare a winner even if noone dies. Makes it p exciting imo desu
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>>183740557
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_8M8EI3M1E

I got you a better one senpai.
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>>183740732
You can also kill Andre for the Crest of Artorias. But in general you don't even need to progress into that part of the forest until post-Anor Londo. And by that point your regular soul gain and the ability to warp makes it trivial to buy the Crest.
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>>183740732
The Crest of Artorias is not a ring, it's a key. You can of course kill Andre and get the crest for free. There are other blacksmiths in the game so he outlives his usefulness as soon as you have a +5 weapon.
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Okay, tell me where I messed up.
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>Host and two phantoms all using ultra weapons
>They also summon Tsorig
>They can't handle me and the Ghru pack

Honestly I think some people actually need the handholding through the game
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>>183741113
>Deep Protection

That's a start
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>>183741113
For starters, zero Attunement. If you just want to use a single buff, Faith is not for you because you may as well just use Pale Pine Resin and shunt those points elsewhere.
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>>183728768
I tried making Naked Snake but he turned out looking more like Commander Riker from TNG
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>>183741061
Unless you want to use weapons that you only have access to later in the game, or you want to stick to the regular or Divine or Occult upgrade paths.
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>>183741394
Nah he's actually getting good investment since he has a 60 Faith DMB, the problem is he has an extra slot he's not using properly. Might as well use Med Heal or something instead.
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>>183741113
If you're doing Luck/Faith and you aren't stacking HP regen you're doing it very wrong.
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Carthus catacombs and Farron Keep is +4 or +5?
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>>183741636
Carthus is good at 40+4
Farron Keep is 30/35+3, which is also good for Cathedral.
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>>183741061
>>183741059
I don't think I'll kill Andre, he's located conveniently near a bonfire that I always kindle because Sen's Funhouse
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How many proofs of a Cuckold keked do I need for DMB, is it 30?
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>>183742108
Yes
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What's the best early melee faith weapon in DS2? Been using a Lightning Heide Knight Sword +8, but I'm not a fan of the moveset and 370 split damage just isn't cutting it outside of invasions.
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Gifts and fights abound at the high wall FC. Going to keep hosting for about an hour before calling it quits, signs are still plentiful so if you want a fight there's plenty of people here.
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>>183742347
Get a Boltstone and infuse the sword at McDuff's. Alternatively, switch to one of the Black Knight weapons, they deal innate Fire damage and mostly have Faith requirements (over Int).
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>>183742645
I really should make a 120 character to participate in these things.

All of my character slots are full of 25-65 invaders
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>>183742919
Feel free to bring any of those existing characters if you want, you'll have a level disadvantage but that makes winning with it all the sweeter.
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just ran all the way from pontiff room to aldrich boss room when 2 uncooperative aldrichs wouldn't have a fair fight
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>>183743048
Flat defenses and weapon level caps means I'll be doing so little damage and be taking so much damage that daggers would hit me for as much as ultra weapons. Not much point.
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Why do people point down in close fights :(
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There is something innately cheeky about everything in DaS2's pvp
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>>183743148
Fair enough, you can always just use CE to powerlevel a character and get the equipment you want though and make a backup so you aren't wasting slots.
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>>183743048
Who is the owner of that cute butt?
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>>183742664
It's already lightning-infused, and I'm only getting 107 bonus attack from 46 Faith. I suppose I'd settle for a Fire weapon if it had better scaling.
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>>183743106
Invaders who bitch about that are stupid shits. The fact that he was a faithful makes it all the worse, since that's the blue sentinel equivalent for invasions - The covenant for people who want to pretend they can pvp but are terrified of going it alone, and thus are too used to relying on crutches to actually be any good at invading. They're almost always complete fucking idiots.

If he was on the receiving end of that I bet he'd be crying about how invasions are too hard waaaaah From pls nerf

Honestly some people need to just kill themselves. While it'd be better if you'd killed them both, you deserve the fanmail for managing to flee across two entire levels while two morons tried and failed to catch you.
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best way to combat this?

it's like a fucking greatbow without the slow draw
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>>183743264
Yeah, that's what I was thinking about doing.

I dunno. I could probably get rid of my hollow rogue build, since I have barely played it since From gutted bleed.
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>>183743637
Clap gesture until they stop
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>>183743637
Lightning Lothric Knight Shield or walking to the side. Hitting with a hyperarmor weapon at close range also helps.
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>>183743637
Unlock camera and zigzag roll towards the host. Works 90% of the time.
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>>183743637
Nigga just run sideways
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>>183743637
just run up left of them and roll nigga, literally never been hit by any arrows ever
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>>183743663
That sounds fine, I'll also probably host sometime around Friday if you don't want to do it now.
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>>183744040
It's like 3AM my man I wasn't even considering doing it now

Looking forward to it though
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>>183744136
It's 10pm in relevant countries anon
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>>183743689
Some sub human with a FUNNY FACE XD character in 3 vs 3 did this, but i didnt stop and his team lost
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>>183744243
>United Shitstains
>Relevant
Heh
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Here we see the traditional mating dance of DS3 players.
>>
should i play ds or watch anime tonight
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>>183744243
Relevant enough to burn down the White House my man
>>
>>183744691
pcfcbfs?
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>>183744767
Fuck off Kim
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>>183744691
>He's using the Farron GS and full Undead Legion gear

Impressively bad
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>>183744693
Invade

You need to remind hosts that they fear death

This is your purpose now
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>>183744860
>not liking undead legion
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>>183743490
Sunlight Blade is your friend then. 50 is already the soft cap for Faith, if you're not satisfied with the damage output then perhaps try a different weapon.
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>>183744936
night time, in my region, in ds2
i probably won't find anyone
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>>183745002
I can't take it seriously because it's basically the shitter starter pack

Can't tell you how many times I've killed people who think spinning forever is a good trick.
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can spears and glaives plz be banned from pvp every single fight against them is the same :(((
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Going to keep hosting the FC for another half an hour then I'll close up shop for tonight. Get in now while you still can!
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Would anyone be willing to give me the painted guardian set in ds3? Itd be nice for my current build but going to get it would be a pain because im keeping my SL low. I'm at the undead settlement bonfire and the password is "x" (no quotes), you'd be a super cool guy if you did.
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>>183745798
plz keep it up longer daddy
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>>183745783
>No spears allowed
>No long weapons
>No poise
>No defense
>No rolling
>No magic, crossbows, or fun
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>>183745838
I'm coming, friend
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>>183745940
I might go up to a full hour if people are still here, this was a lot more then I expected so I'm happy enough to keep going maybe, we'll see how it goes.

Also picture is the elusive naked caveman
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>>183745838
>>183746057
>Inb4 he just crashes your game with CE
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>>183745954
At least you kept all of those option and fun separated
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>>183746057
Awesome.
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>>183746091
Also free embers up here if anyone wants them
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>>183746250
My red sign is down
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The pinnacle of pvp
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>>183746334
You're at the undead settlement? I don't see it.
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>>183732246
I want her feet on my face
>>
>tfw running out of Cancer Mode Siegbrau stockpile

Being an invader is tough :^)
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>>183746558
Is that nigga using a hornet ring

Hornet ring is cheap as fuck
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>>183746602
Is the pw x or X? And my sign is at undead settlement, facing the gate
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>>183746765
No, he's using a shield as a weapon
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>>183746765
You know what else is cheap? Your mom!
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>>183746795
Just x. I might've missed it, I'll look again.
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>>183743589
>blue sentinel equivalent
Hey hey, I'm in the Blueball sentinels just to get the all miracles cheevo.
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8ERz80ibXk
Dark Souls 1 PVP footage
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>>183746929
I'm right here
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>>183747153
I think you're playing with your landmower while he is trying to use his oven to find the sign.
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Signs are cooling down now and I'm feeling tired so I'll probably call the FC in 10-15 minutes. I'll make sure everyone gets their last licks in.
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>>183745838
>>183746057
>>183746250
>>183746334
>>183746602
>>183746795
>>183746929
>>183747153
>zero mention of platform
Why does this keep happening.
>>
>>183747468
Pffft, you might be right and I might be retarded.
>>183747153
I'm a scrub playing on PS4, I forgot to mention that. Sorry, thanks anyways.
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>>183746934
You're still a massive cuck
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Thank you, /tekgen/ for finding this gem for us.
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I shouldn't summon Creighton for the boss fight at Huntsman's Copse right? He seems fishy as heck. So does Pat thogh.

Are there any other NPC summons in the area? I thought I saw more.
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I've never been more horrified yet in awe my entire life
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>>183748043
Please FFA before you leave
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>>183748043
I want the man top left
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>>183747940
Except that's not actually me.
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>>183747976
Creighton will not betray you in the boss fight. Not that you should need a summon for skellie lords though.
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>>183747940
Lucifer is the guy who literally said zoning is a crutch in fighting games. It just keeps getting better and better with that retard.
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>>183748181
Good idea, I'll do a round or two of FFA after making sure everyone gets one last summon in.
>>
So just how many Berserk references are there in equipment/weapons in DaS3?

I want to make a Berserk abomination. I was thinking:

Griffith face
Greatsword
Evangalist Hood
Bonewheel Shield
Sellsword (?) armor

Anything else?
>>
I don't get it

How do I get backstabbed so often in the middle of Ledo's WA, even after a hit from it registers on the guy?
>>
>>183747670
>he doesn't play on dreamcast
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>>183748297
If I help him, will that make Pat mad or something.

Also was he on the Shaded Woods? I didn't summon him there, didn't find him.

Did I fug myself out of some questline
>>
Everyone DCed from the FC suddenly so I'll move right to free for all now. I'll host three rounds with Warmth being cast being the signal start, and make sure everyone gets a summon
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Nice FC, guys.
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>>183748768
ggs, was me
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A stunning array of champions ready to fight
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>>183748768
no it was literally me
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>>183748934
>didn't summon me
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>>183748628
You don't have to summon him. You just need to talk to Creighton and Pate at every location and exhaust their dialogue
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>>183748980
What's your character name?
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>>183749016
Hm okay. Will he still be at Shaded Woods if I go there now, though? I'm guessing not.
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>>183748934
>blocks me from the scene
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Does anyone have that picture from like 2012 of all the dark souls 1 covenants with darkwraiths having that rave chick on it? I can't fucking find it even though it used to be everywhere.
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>>183749228
Your character is too powerful to be fully exposed
>>
>>183738060
same
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>>183747940
top kek Lucifer becoming more of a laughing stock by the second
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My bad, Spirit. Good fight
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A solemn moment before the final battle
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Any PS4 Anon want to help a DS3 pyro playthrough the game on another NG+ cycle (think this will be my 22nd NG)?

I'll be using dried fingers once I get to High Wall again

Currently am at Kiln of the First Flame using password cuck. Will summon once I see your sign
>>
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why
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>>183750170
saved

garbman and NMS deserve nothing less
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The final FFA is over with Spirit is the winner. With that the FC is over for now. Thanks to everyone who came! Hopefully /dsg/ can have more in the future.
>>
I made the Iron Golem Axe, is this gonna be a fun STR weapon?
>>
>>183750274
when are we doing the Last Fight Club?
>>
>>183750274
Goodnight grandpa.
>>
>>183750272
Fuck off BSCB
>>
>>183750274
>Hopefully /dsg/ can have more in the future.
Maybe if the discord wasn't run by imbeciles.
>>
>>183750407
When we all decide to put DS3 down for good. Never

>>183750502
Maybe if other people actually hosted FCs
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>>183750407
When the discord /pol/ shitmod is removed.
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>>183750109
I'm down to clown around thru some dried finger runs. I'm only at sl 100 tho. Also what's the pass?
>>
>>183750502
ggs i own the d*sc*rd
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>>183750274
Thank you for hosting, have a good night and a nice day tomorrow!
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>>183729982
>not Escock
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>>183750809
Password is cuck

I'm at Kiln of the First Flame. Gotta take down SoC first

I'm SL120 so not much of a difference
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>we never got that swirling humanity head
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Starting new game with a DEX/LCK build in DS3. What are some fun weapons to try out early game?
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>>183750837
The discord would be a better place if the Oldman owned it
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>>183750232
It's Knight Kirk's last laugh
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>>183749261
please anyone, it had all the covenants and for most of them it had a skeleton with the
>failed to invade
text
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>>183751103
ggs im him
>>
Some twink named Dongle is invading Sen's right now on pc. How much of a faggot do you have to be to invade at Sen's?
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>>183751018
>Never got the giant snake boss
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>>183751018
cant find that shit even with CE
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>>183750957
Put it down at the kiln unless you're soloing SoC.
>>
>>183750232
Just a reference. You can see the Old Witch Ring holding it together.
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>>183751265
Sen's funhouse is the second best place to invade, after upper blighttown
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>>183751339
Right next to the bonfire?

I'm currently resting at it.
>>
I like invading in DS3.
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>>183751143
someone
anyoine
help
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>>183732782
no, kys
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Is this thing at least not awful?
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>>183751452
Ok it's down by the bonfire now.
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>>183751564
It's alright.
>>
Balder side sword, longsword, or broadsword?
>>
Why do people think it's ok to chug after using Ariandel's Rose WA :(((((
>>
>>183751435
It would've been better if he was at least not retarded. First time he invaded I baited him into an arrow trap, and the second time he died to a giant firebomb. He was just a nuisance that made me waste my sunny D.
>>
>>183751651
Baller
>>
>>183751651
BSS is most optimal, but I really like the longsword's R2s
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>>183751651
Side sword.
>not having Estoc as an option
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>>183751606
Now we can do dried finger fuckery!

Gonna kill Iudex real quick. Put your white sign at High Wall. I'll summon you when I get there
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>>183751452
Coolio, it's down already.
>>
>>183751804
>>183751772
>>183751725
Well, I was specifically wondering about the top three straight swords.

I had a feeling that most people would say BSS is best but I can't see why, it seems like you're trading a more diverse moveset and a bit of damage for a bit more reach. I feel comfiest with the longsword.
>>
>>183752220
Having a diverse moveset doesn't mean much when the other moves suck
>>
>>183752182
Pepper your Angus

I'm fingering right now
>>
>>183736210
>>183739119
no one cares, kill yourself
>>
>>183752220
Then use the longsword? Even if it's not the best it's still excellent.
For PvE it literally doesn't matter, and PvP is dead as fuck.
>>
Why do hosts chug at 1v1 summons at pontiff
I just can't fathom how they don't expect the other guy to go greatbow concealing the rest of the game
>>
>>183751501
I do too, it's basically the only thing that keeps me playing so much
a more active game a more fun game
>>
>>183752650
like 3 times in a row

Just casually drinking after the first hit

Do people just limit themselves to 7 estus or whatever, what's going on?
>>
>>183752650
>>183752915
The only way to make people not chug is by going into Arena where it's impossible to chug.
>>
>>183753094
I just don't get why they're doing it

Do they not know the summoning penalty?
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fuck you guys i found it on my old laptop
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>>183752459
No invasions, hopefully settlement is better.
>>
>>183752915
A lot of people don't know duel etiquette.
I did it back in ds1. Somebody messaged me over GFWL to stop. I didn't at first but then noticed literally nobody chugging.
Some of them probably just don't care.
>>
>>183753339
Put sign at Undead Settlement bonfire (that's the name of it)
>>
>>183753195
People just don't follow etiquette since Pontiff duels dropped way the hell off due to Arena. Maybe they're new and only started dueling at Pontiff's after everybody else stopped?
>>
The hammer class is so good holy shit
>>
>>183753303
>same sunbros, darkwraiths, dorkmoons, and forest hunter clones every game
>gravelord servants never got reintroduced to the series with the majesty they always deserved
it just isn't fair
>>
>>183751501
People can cry all they want about the advantages the host has, but I like that there's actually half a chance that I'll die as the invader in 3.
Fuck, in most of the other games invading basically felt like taking on a 3-year old in a boxing match and trying to pretend like it wasn't the most absurdly one-sided fight in the world. Demon's and I were especially bad in that regard.
People that just sit in a corner with all their phantoms and wait for you to come to them can fuck off, though.
>>
>>183751564
hey
thank you for inspiring this
https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/226082
>>
>>183753430
whoops
>>
>>183754251
Plow is OP lol
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RG_vven4DLo

Made a new character and was looking for "overpowered early" methods. What do you guys think about this one? Thing is this video was posted a year, so it could be patched.

I could just do the same old route of getting the fire longsword like everyone else but that's just boring.
>>
>>183753434
>>183753434

I do regular duel at pontif and almost never encounter chuggers.
>>
Knight armor or buff Vit till I can wear Drangleic armor under 50% load?

DS2, 2 hander longsword character
>>
Wow today is not my day

Rolled off the edge
>>
should I feel bad for stomping retards at the spears of the church fight when I'm the summon?
>>
>>183754251
Meet you at Halfway Fortress
>>
>>183755013
Not really, it's your job. Same principle as invasions, your job is to play as dirty as you can.
>>
>>183755195
See you there, we doing farron or sage?
>>
>>183754660
I'm in XBone so that might explain why so many people have no idea what pontiff is about
>>
>>183755247
I beat most of them just spamming r1/running attacks because they hide behind shields
>>
Viking dream viking dream. The mightiest warrior the world has seen.
>>
>>183755259
Farron
>>
>>183755354
Again, play dirty. No such thing as a cheap shot in this scenario. If they're channeling their inner turtle, beat the turtle out of them.
>>
do items disappear upon reloading maps?
>>
>>183755327
I play on pc and got it after both DLCs were released so I can't compare its activity to how it was before but I always get instant red sign summons at 85 +10 so its far from dead.

I rarely use the arena in 3. I get far quicker connections at pontif and like fighting with embered health.
>>
>>183755924
Yeah, I get summoned almost immediately at any time. Still just finding so many shitty hosts who have know idea what's going on
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editing enemy spawns in ds1
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>>183756086
put gwyn in the asylum
>>
>>183755259
I'll wait for you at Keep Ruins
>>
let a shitter host 1v1 an aldrich, then when a blue gets summoned they gank the shit out of me. Last time i do that.
>>
>>183756086
I thought you couldn't move enemies out of areas that they are normally in. Or is that only in DaS3?
>>
>>183756953
only 3
>>
>>183754707
Pls respond
>>
>>183756086
How are is your fps so high?
>>
Thanks for the help Anon

Shame we didn't more invaders

I'm getting off for now. It's late and my eyes are starting to hurt

Night Anon!
>>
Why is the BSS so awesome?
>>
>>183753930
I agree completely. I initially didn't like how the matchmaking favored summons, but after thinking about it I don't really care.
I've always done invasions but DS3's are by far the most exciting. Sure, I die a lot, but shitting on a host and his phantom(s) feels really good.
But yeah when the host and his summons refuse to leave their hidey-hole I can't manage to millwood-bust it really gives me conniptions.
>>
>>183756953
>>183757224
in this particular scenario undead burg/parish are all one area so you can swap out those enemies as you please. technically you can move any enemy anywhere in any game but ai can pose an issue in 1 and 3. im not replacing any ai tho since it's a huge hassle but most enemies work well enough anyway
>>
>>183757329
Night dude, was fun.
>>
If you encounter "NULL" he will get angry and turn on cheats if you smack him around in pvp
>>
>>183756086
Dark Souls is so pretty on PC
>>
>>183757728
same with John
>>
>>183750109
Why ng +23? Are you autistic?
>>
>Even
DS3 SL1 run
>Odd
DS1 perma gravelord run w/ no armor
>0
Albion Online
>>
What's a good weapon for a dex/faith build in DaS2? Looking for regular upgrade + buffs like Sunlight Blade. Or is there a better option for dex/faith?
>>
>>183759180
9mm dagger infused with powder
use it on skull
>>
>>183759180
Ornstein's spear and the Heide Knight Spear both have good Dex scaling.
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Do you know who he is?

Where to improve?
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>>183761313
Does he like dudes?
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>>183762190
No he is a family man in a traditional sense.
>>
>>183762407
Well the face looks good but you'll never be able to replicate the iconic hairstyle so I don't really see the point.
>>
Whose fucking idea was it to give Spears multiple guardians that spam Soothing Sunlight?
It's fine when you have a summon to even things out, but fucking garbage solo if you're matched against anyone competent.
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>run to aldrich bossroom to get rid of annoying fag who wont fight
>he doesn't get sent home when I enter
>have to alt-f4
>>
>>183761313
Is that my client Brock Lesnar?
>>
>>183762818
Because the Spear has no healing Estus, isn't much more tanky than a normal player if you don't have any summons, and the first guardian in particular can be killed before the Spear even spawns in if you're smart.

Rarely are they what makes or breaks a Spear of the Church fight.
>>
>>183751667
Invaders are immune to the giant firebombs.
>>
>>183762818
Just go straight for the Spear. Because they can't sippy, you can just go delete their healthbar. If you're against the NPC killing the guardians is useful but against a player just be aggressive and you're bound to catch the lmaonovig idiot you can kill in one salvo.
>>
Going for a hex build even though I hear it's shit, wish me luck lads.
>>
>>183759495
Are spears the way to go for dex in DaS2? How about katanas or straight swords?
>>
>>183765591
Hexes are fucking great, especially Great Resonant Soul.
>>
>>183765591
Hexes are still good. They're not absurdly OP anymore now that the Resonant spells got nerfed into the ground, but the rest is decent.
>>
>>183749751
Is lucifer a gurl?
>>
>>183766472
No.
>>
What's the best starting class for an all-purpose SL120 PvP build in DS3 to waste as few points as possible assuming that I want to respec a lot to try different things? Knight?
>>
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>tfw dark magic will never be physical again
>we will never have cool staffs that scale with physical stats again
it hurts, boys
I just want magic to feel strong again, even if it isn't really
>>
>>183766392
>>183766420
Should I go for pure hex or also have a 1hand wep to dark weapon with?
>>
>>183762571
Well I just needed something fun for my fist weapons playthrough, and Bruce Lee is so unoriginal.
>>
>>183767165
You should always have a melee weapon to fall back on. Hexers have some decent options you can find early like the Roaring Halberd.and the Silverblack weapons.
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What are some good dex weapons to compliment a bow/dagger build in DaS1?
SKS and Estoc seem appropriate for when I need the reach, or have to fight something without relying on crits, but they're kind of boring.
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Is literally every DS3 invasion just a 4v1 gank ?
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>>183768474
No.
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>>183768474
Below SL80 anywhere: Most of the time, no.
Above SL80 in the DLC zones: Very rarely.
Above SL80 at Pontiff's: Always yes.
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>>183768474
4v1 is not that common. 2v1 is very common, as is 3v1.
Probably less than a quarter of my invasions are 4v1s at SL120 on PC.
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>>183768474
I literally just had an invasion chasing someone around after killing 3 blues.

I wasn't able to kill him when two more blues showed up and it became a 3v1. Fuck this invasion system.
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>>183769596
I've come to not really mind fighting phantom-accompanied hosts, but that shit is annoying.
Along with hidey-hosts, blue spam really puts a bee in my bonnet.
It's incredibly frustrating to kill multiple blues, only to have more replace them. My only recommendation is pray the host plays the level and you can make him fight for every inch.
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Who are you?
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>>183769957
I'm you, but stronger.
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>tfw no Vinheim bf
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>>183769925
The potential 4v1s, the halved estus use, 30% less HP than host, and possible 20+ level range from you makes invasions so stupidly stacked against you, it's no wonder people twink what they can
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>>183770573
Twinking starts to lose its effectiveness pretty badly past Abyss Watchers, in which case nearly every invasion is some shitter that lets their downscaled buddy do all the work.
I do like that matchmaking takes weapons and SL into account though, much more than Soul Memory.
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>>183770573
This is going to sound trite but "git gud." Invasions are still usually a lot of fun.
Most hosts I find at high levels aren't just ganksquads waiting for invaders, but people actually trying to get through the level.
Yeah, if the host has buddies and they all play like professional killers, you're fucked; as you say, the host has big advantages. However, you're not supposed to be impossible to beat. You're a miniboss: a big scary red phantom. You are the most ruthless hollow soldier in the entire level.
Fortunately, most hosts and their buddies are not professionals. Most of them make the same stupid mistakes and you can really punish them for it.

Yes, to win you have to out-play the host, but I don't see why that shouldn't be the case. If you want a duel then fucking duel.
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>>183771001
I would appreciate a sort of summoning sealing, if you get invaded you can't just go and spawn more phantoms to help you (not counting blues) so at least they cant refill their army or also get caught in a 1v1
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>>183771108
A miniboss with huge disadvantages is not a miniboss though, just by sheer numbers you'll get stomped in similar SL and are just a slightly more difficult mob
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Respec glitch anon here. I don't know what happened, I still couldn't trigger the glitch on my first pale tongue. BUT, I got another tongue from the corpse near the giant in cathedral, and I did the glitch successfully this time. So my respec counts need to be at 4 before I can do the glitch. That's fucking weird. Anyone else experience this glitch's glitch?
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>>183771242
Or just make it so the number of potential invaders matches the number of white soapstone phantoms the host has.
Replace Finger with Blue Eye Orb.
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>>183771341
Maybe if you play like a fucking mob you'll get stomped. If you mindlessly mash R1 yeah you're going to get fucked.
However, considering you can post, you probably have a brain. That alone should make you significantly scarier than most mobs, at least on NG and NG+.

Don't treat invasions like a duel. In a "fair fight" you are at a disadvantage. Make them work to progress through the level.
I lose a lot, too, but the experience is always exciting and the difficulty makes winning much more enjoyable.
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>Go fight in arena after 3 month of dark soul break.
>Keep losing
>Match up against some guy using same weapon.
>Defeat him once.
>Keep matching up against him.
>He keeps going cheesier and laggier with each duel.
>Almost has no recovery on his attacks and just rolls even after whiffing with Great hammer.
>Casually backstabs me when I miss a single R1 from Claymore.
>Lose 7-8 times to him.
>Keep queing anyway.
>He goes from bowing at start of every battle to pointing down.
>11th duel about to start.
>Bow
>Power Surge happens and entire system shut downs.
>He probably thinks I RQ'd.
>Never see him again.
>Continue the losing streak anyway.
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Post characters that are literally you. Pic related is me. An intelligent, nihilistic individual with a wicked sense of humor
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>>183771683
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>>183771683
Yfw you have no face
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>>183771581
>Make them work to progress through the level
Obscuring ring exists just for this.
If you match with some faggot who won't risk progressing through the level, harass them until they do.
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>>183771581
I don't expect it to be a duel but just by how the system handles invading, even in a 1v1 scenario you still have the potential level discrepancies, halved flasks, and less health. Even a "duel" is stacked against you, adding more phantoms to rush you basically makes the threat of a red barely worth a damn unless the whole party is braindead
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>Return of the bloodshades
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Does anyone still playing DaS1 care if I use Elite Cleric armor, this shit is great looking.

Also, at what level can I use Black Magic on the Manus Catalyst without it being considered twinking? I want to bash people with it and magic second.
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>>183771581
>considering you can post, you probably have a brain
I see you're new around here. You'll learn eventually
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>>183771751
Exactly fucking this. Obscuring Silvercat build is the best invasion build.
>>183771756
>Unless the whole party is braindead
You don't play many online games, do you?
Jokes aside, yeah, if you're put in a duel scenario you're fucked. I hate it when non-shitters offer me duels, because I feel honor-bound to comply, even as an invader.
Phantoms are an issue, obviously, but if you get the drop on the party or do anything remotely intelligent to encourage them to split up, you can do a lot of damage.
>>183771853
Having a brain and using one are two very different things.
I refuse to believe that this board is nothing but advanced shitpost-bots from the future.
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I bet the girls made fun of Lucy when he was at school. Bet they called him Lucy Goosey.
>Eww, stay away from Lucy Goosey, He'll pinch your butt! hahaha
And stuff like that.
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>>183771783
Please don't be pulling my leg, I missed it the last time. Is it vicaring time?
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>>183771634
kek
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>>183771634
>>He goes from bowing at start of every battle to pointing down.
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Do all black knight weapons have inverse phantom range, or do every other weapon have higher phantom range?
I went from BKGA to BKGlaive. People are hitting me with some UGS from miles away, even If I dodge the BS attempt, I still take damage from their swing 30 miles away.

Also I thought R1 L2 R1 was true combo, but everyone just dodges the R1.
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>>183767080
knight or pyro
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>>183772390
All weapons with that was can combo r1l2r1, you're waiting too long for confirmation. You have to take into account how phantom range works. If you keep backpedaling without rolling, people will hit you
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>>183772574
So don't wait for animation to finish and just queue last R1, yes?
I did rolled 2 times out of that backstab attempt but still took damage.
Also why is everyone killing me in 3-4 hits yet they all take 6-7 hits to die? I have AR of 509 and HP of 1272
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>>183771783
>>183772131

PS4 bro here, I hope this is real so I can meet the faggotry right where it's going to be the most prominent.
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>>183772749
Kind of, yes. When tge bs whiffs, the weapon still does r1 worth of damage where it passes. You need to recognise the weapon to know what animation will play and how to avoid it.
How are your defenses? Post build
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>>183762860
Was probably a hacker then, they usually hang around anor lando because it's a popular pvp area.

I've seen hackers desu into the boss arena or even tp me to it then helping the boss kill me. CE can do some crazy shit.
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Why are the splintering bolts so terrible? Like my bleed builds wasn't bad enough to start with.
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>>183773027
It's still a WIP, I'm waiting for my friend to come so we can start TRC. So I'm just spending my time in duels to gitgud till then. As of now, I think I'll be increasing my Dex to 40 so I can free up hunter slot, then probably increase vig to 44 and dump rest of points in End, or Vit.
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>>183771783
We should form our own squad and just wait for those shitlords to invade us and gank them like they gank us.

Tis only fair.
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>>183773045
I was hoping they would work well with the repeating crossbow, but they're both shit and as such the product is double shit.

Their damage is so low that flat defense soaks a lot of it before absorption, so without bleed procs the damage is awful.
Their bleed is so low and crossbow bolts are unreliable by nature, so they never proc the bleed.

Their damage is low because they are a ranged weapon and can proc bleed.
Their bleed proc is low because they are a ranged weapon and fuck bleed builds lmao.
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>60 fai
>raw lkss does 5 more damage than lhs
>blessed it does 70 more
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>>183773280
weird, might happened upon cheater faggots. Although, are you dueling at pointiff's at that level? There is a pretty good chance you're being summon by higher level players
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>>183773486
>lhs
>Faith: E
I wonder what could be going on here
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>>183773638
On PS4, and no, I'm using the Undead Arena. The only time I actually managed to do decent damage was against some Dark Caster, but the only had 1009? HP or something and were wearing white dress. I was doing 400HP Damage. Though at same time, I fought another one with same dress but they had like alot of health. I was doing 200-300 damage per hit.
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>>183773653
Well obviously the numbers don't lie. But it's bullshit
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>>183772829
>>183772131
Peeve is streaming and doing bloodshades
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>>183748313
>zoning is a crutch in fighting games.

But this is exactly what fighting games are at the highest level.

Scrubs think it's just oki and mind games but it's more about perfect spacing and punishing.
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>>183774193
>Swallows bait, hook, line, and sinker
>I-I didn't get trolled guys, this guy is serious and just salty
I physically cringed.
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>>183752486
please don't bully

>>183774193
I actually have a character ready if anyone wants to be friends and gank him. I don't have a lot of friends for some reason
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>>183765591
the problem with hex builds is that they are mind-numbingly boring
there's like one fun hex and it's behind a fucking darklurker
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>>183771001
Get good
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>>183771756
Git gud
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>>183775098
Pyromancer is way better for low-level invasions simply because of how fast Vestiges are.
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As if the bed of chaos wasn't enough fromsoft reminded me of the horrors of the bed of chaos by placing yet another cheap boss in their series. His attacks are stupidly telegraphed sure, but misstep once and get knocked back into lava. Why would they do this?
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>>183728054
Where's this sale?
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Which one, lads?
>>183775968
Why does he look like he's about to drop the corniest fucking joke?
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>>183776190
Third one is sexy. So is second one but I recommend you go get a bigger head from ol' Rosy they look even better.
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>>183776410
Second is my favourite, but I'm putting a fashion together in case fartshades come to pc and wanted to hear opinions
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>>183775968
>not refusing to level vitality
>not handicapping yourself
>relying on healing items to carry you through boss fights
>not forcing yourself to get a flawless kill on every boss

how infinitely casual can you get?
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Can Frayed blade combo into any of it's WA's?
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Why did none of the good gestures make it into DaS3
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>>183776190
Left to right:

Creepy hand of god
Cool
Slightly exoctic crusader
Bog standard knight in shining armor + cloth

first one if you want to feel like a like a religious serial killer, second one if you just want to be a knight
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>>183776729
But they did
You just can't get them :^)
fuck ;_;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_nS0fCLauA
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>>183776693
Not true combo, but R1+R1+WA R1 and WA R2+WA R1 are the most common roll catches

>>183776729
>gestures didn't unequip weapons
>casual one handed Smough's hammer waves
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why are south americans so good at banter?
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>>183777124
One handed or two handed? Does it matter?
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Playing a sorcerer is really fun
I am not sure if it's because I am level 35 or what but I enjoy it a lot
Spells like flashsword and greatsword makes it even cooler
I can't survive most of PvP encounters but boss fights and coop are top
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>>183777661
Katanas get slightly better range on 1h r1s iirc but that's not the point, it's catching their roll if they roll once backwards
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>>183777661
Doesn't matter at all.

I don't know are you asking about FB or the gesture but answer is the same anyway.
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How badly will the ar of gael's greatsword, or any other greatsword, be affected if I don't put any points into Dex besides the minimum?
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>>183778095
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3
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>>183778202
Thank
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>>183777843
>Dusk crown
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>>183778498
Not a fan of it, much less with a dark hair color but it helps nuking the Abyss Watchers faster
It also doesn't help that I can't get a decent light blonde hair color to at least somewhat match with it
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>>183778498
>>183778498
>min maxing hurts my feelings
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>>183778718
it looks like shit
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>>183778573
u rike anime? u rike green hair? u get green hair!
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>find out ENB has a tv tropes page that's gone unupdated for a year or so
>clearly written by a dicksucking fanboy because it mentions nothing about him shilling DS2 or his betrayal of the fanbase
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>>183750338
One-Handed absolutley. Those slices of air you make with your strong biceps will make you feel stronk and build up way too much testosterone for you to survive.
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>if you die, andre disappears
what's the lore behind this, vaati?
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>>183778827
>>183778827
Looks do not win fights. I equip items to help win fights not to jerk off to my characters.
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>>183778573
Does anyone have the picture of the heavenly blonde tinder mage and maybe sliders?

By far the best and most beautiful character ever posted in these threads.
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>>183780558
I'm not sure if I've seen the pic, but I can assure you it only worked in that lighting. In ds3 a redhead is the closest you can get to blonde
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>>183724990
Alright I discovered the infinite boss soul glitch in DS1 not long ago and I'm gonna max out my stats, is there anything like that for DS2 and DS3?
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Need help with an idea for an alternate boss reprise/"echo" intead of Old Dragonslayer/Axestein. Not a mod or something, just conceptual. Can't figure out end phase:

>exit via archtree into a large, Ash Lake like arena of still, shallow water, Mushroom canopies hang overhead entry
>archtrees in the background and a dark fog; trees are burning or are dead in water's reflection
>walk until a giant, skeletal beast with white eyes comes charging and you're knocked down by some invisible force
>cutscene then briefly shows the legs of a wolf, a hanging shield itself reflecting two high red eyes and a sword before it jumps back; "Abyssian Bond" or "Old Wolf Knight" appears
>after taking enough hits it tumbles down, dust and water is kicked up, cut music
>2nd cutscene begins, a la Nameless King, the now revealed grey wolf is lying atop its now visible rider, who climbs out with his arm broken as a result, enraged
>"He Who Fights Monsters"/begin 2nd phase
>halfway through, whole thing stops uncannily, no cutscene
>very quiet; character is standing in a white Abyss, humanity sprite has taken the place of the boss and begins moving away from the player
>moving, endless corridor thing, whole image changes to a deep blue/violet, crimson and gold before inverting colors to a black Abyss then shifting back to a gray limbo
>footsteps no longer can be heard, humanity phantom disappears

At this point, whether attempting to continue forward or turning around, a huge humanity sprite comes out of the ground (or lackthereof) shaking the screen only if the player faces it. Otherwise, when they turn around, it's there silently.

>three hues split from the central one
>"The Four Champions" appears, music is minimalist, no other sound

This is where I don't know whether you have it be like Soul of Cinder in some fluid form with Orn/Cirn/Ggh/Artrs' moves at the appropriate times or just have four targets. Phantom Gough would be a problem, possibly. Thoughts? Too much compared to Nameless?
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>>183780902
If you haven't seen the picture then how would you know?

Could you ever truly describe a beautiful sunset to a man who is blind and never seen such a sight?
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>>183724990
I'm playing Demon's Souls. It's superior to any Dark Souls game. They are just rehashes.
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>>183781567
Because I've used the character creator extensively
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>>183781293
>artorias fanbois
*cringe*
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is friendly fire the biggest challenge during invasions?

pain in the ass that you can't just whale on the host and his buddies without destroying your ally in the process

now i just hang back and shoot them with a crossbow to help out while they swing away
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y'all got any preferred builds/weapons for demons souls?
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>>183782130
I'm a big fan of boring magic and doing VoD last. Then going in with nothing but fire spells and killing everything with fire while blasting linkin park.

Alternatively doing VoD early and getting blessed weapons for a faith build is 100% fun
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>>183782031
No, but one of the biggest challenges in invasions is fellow invaders who don't understand the concept of friendly fire or that if they force me to kill them, the host gets estus back
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>>183782130

Strength build with curse weapon/second chance, big heavy strength weapons are fun.
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>>183782130
STR build with DBS with Cursed Weapon cast from a cracked Talisman of Beasts

>>183781606
t. pcuck who just got his shitty emulation of an 8 year old game barely working on his NASA computer
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So finished Anor Londo, and other than going to New Londo for the ember I'm not really sure which order to tackle the lord souls and other bosses.
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>>183781714
Alright. Post the most beautiful blonde angel that you are able to create. We shall see just how extensively you've used the character creator.
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>>183782031
>>183782594
Become proficient.
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>>183737205
thats straight up artifacting, i suggest buying a new graphics card cus that one is gonna go kaput very soon.
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Got a few questions in regards to a pyro build I'm working on

-Is 30/30 going to give me decent pyro damage along with the melee weapon damage, or do I need 40/40 even if I'm not using hexes?

-If I can stick to 30/30, would it be worth, say, hitting 18 STR for the BKSh, if I mostly intend to be invading

-Aside from 2-Handed Murakumo, LKS, AGS, Demon's Scar, Onyx Blade and the Chaos Dagger, are there any weapons well worth having upgraded?

-Aside from Black Flame, Fire Surge and CBV, are there any pyromancies that are ideal for invasion?
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>>183775098
>>183775267
>>183782992
>twinking support mage
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>>183782817
You're missing the point. This the closest to blonde you can get. Any more greener and it starts becoming green. Any redder and it's a redhead. Whatever you saw was a product of the lighting
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>>183783327
>replying to autismanon
Use the archive to check how many times each of those vids is posted and the manner of posts. It's good bait
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>>183783272
There's a chart somewhere that shows the scaling of pyro. Irc 35/35 gives about the best returns while 45/45 gives very minimal returns.

I haven't seen the picture in a while but I'm certain 45/45 is wasted stats.
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>>183783330

I'm disconcerted that with the time you've spent in character creator those are the eyes you come out with

And I believe you're mistaking the phrase "Heavenly blonde" to mean a specific hair colouring. I believe they're using the phrase "Heavenly" to refer to the character itself, and the culmination of the work, rather than just how the hair looks
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>>183783330
why is she crosseye?
regardless, that's an okay blonde, much better than I expected with the color sliders
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>>183782992
Yeah that's cool and all but what about when an asshole red decides he wants to kill you instead of the host?
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>>183783330
Disgusting. You have no right to speak on the matters of the beautiful. I can only hope you see the portrait of the heavenly tinder mage one day to understand just how beautiful the divine can truly be.
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>>183783706

I dunno about mr autismo, but on my sorc build I have 12 FAI for two reasons: Immolation Tinder and Force. Just knock the prick off something, he won't be expecting it
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>>183783795
And while you're busy with him the Host ran back to the porch and summoned his buddies again, and got estus back.

Immolation Tinder is great though, I'll give you props for that.
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post spells nobody uses
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>>183783434
>replying to my super samefag counter bait.

Haha still tricked you. It was just me all along. I have evolved. You either fall my bait or my counter counter bait.
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>>183783784

Describe the picture, when you say tinder do you mean, like, someone using a DaSIII character for their tinder profile? or that they were using Immolation Tinder? What was the background, their armour?
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>>183783609
that's just your opinion
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>>183783897
wikidot used to have high quality pics, what happened?
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do the drang twin spears have anything redeeming about them?
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>>183783868

Well thanks!

If they're password summoned or summoning the same people you need only hide away and block them, that's what I tend to do anyway, there's little that tickles me more than the clear panic people get when their summons fail. If you're concerned about them getting the estus back though, and you're in an area with lots of falling shortcuts back to the host, I tend to lean towards leading the other red on a chase, damaging him enough that fall damage would take him out, then using silvercat to outrun him back to the host. If he falls and kills himself, shame but you're at least on your way back a bit faster, but most invaders will either waste time healing, equipping their own silvercat which gives you a small bit of spacing, or just run the long way back if they're new

>>183784047

I'd be concerned if it wasn't, being mind controlled isn't my idea of a good time
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>>183783546 >>183783272
this chart? >>183726695
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>>183784187
Remember how broken the Gotthard's old rolling attack was, before they nerfed it?

Twinspears have the pre-nerf version, except a little longer.
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>>183783706
>trusting reds
Reds can't see me. I'm invisible.

Besides I just let treat them like mindless zombies or maybe stronger npcs while I do all the heavy lifting.
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I can never seem to parry the running R1 to this fucking thing. What am I doing wrong?
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>>183784187

In my experience they're reasonably good at rollcatching, and if you run a buff build they're capable of very high damage. You've got the charge WA which, while reasonably easy to parry, can do serious damage if you blindside someone, they've got good range, can always be used for passive shield turtling if you run into a faster weapon. They've got ups and downs
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>>183784323
>>183784378
I might just have to try them out. could I run them like 26 str heavy with some sort of buff or are they Dex? I'd check myself but I'm on mobile
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>>183784351

You're not using a spear to counter strike

Seriously, I dunno if it's just the LKLS or if I've gotten lucky enough to find people using it with no poise, but a single thrust always stops them in their tracks. And the main upside to it, that it charges for so long before swinging, gives you more time to poke

>>183784329

Why would you not buff your staff in that situation? You'd have probably finished him off easier
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>>183783915
Heavenly golden blonde angelic tinder mage.

If you've seen it then you know these words to be true. If you see it one day then you'll remember these words and how little justice they do to describe such a beauty.
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>>183784263
No. That's a chart for catalyst by some autism mage.
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>>183784517

Well, you can make pretty much any infusable weapon work on either a STR build as Heavy or a DEX build as Sharp. The problem is, because they're a twin weapon, they don't get the 2-Handing STR bonus. So be sure to take that into acount, since it basically means that while wielding them, your 26 str STAYS 26 str. So check on mugen to make sure you're infusing them to get the best bonus, you might want to go sharp regardless, or refined
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>>183782737
Also I killed Ceaseless Discharge (the cowardly way) and when I looked at the area with the lava now gone there was like 6 bull demons, am I not supposed to go down that way until much later or is that segment everyone calls poorly designed shit?
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>watch guide on Midir
>lvl 1
>doing almost 300a hit to his tail
>I'm lvl 120
>doing 350

Wtf Why?
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>>183784538
Didn't realise I had caestus out which lets me fire 3 shots instead of the normal 2.

In my experience, which is quite substantial, it's not worth buffing the staff once a fight is underway unless it's a 1v1 or pve encounter. In group fights it's often better go for kills as quickly as possible and forgo mana efficiency.

If you actually look carefully that red may have died there if I didn't finish the host there although I did severely damage the red to be fair.
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>>183783546
>>183784263

Cпacибo friends, that has helped a great deal

Here is the build as I have it worked out so far, I reckon Seething Chaos will be good for messing up peoples roll timing if I stay aggressive, and since none of my weapons are based around needing to combo attacks together, it won't be as much of an issue if it breaks stagger
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>>183784554
There's no way this character can look as great as you guys claim.
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>>183783784
It's almost as if the whole point was hair color and not facial sliders
hmmm
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>>183784071
would be cool if they actually fixed this spell

they should make it so you can just tag dead bodies and then blow up the ones you tagged from a reasonable distance, and of course make it so you can blow them up regardless if the host uses a seed or not
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>>183783905
oh fug
>>183785507
most likely it's the same dude who made the character
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>clutch rings are nerfed in PvP
what the fuck
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Reminder to walk away from a battle so you look cool
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>>183785718
is there a list of what's nerfed in pvp?

i'm pretty ignorant of what is and what isn't, all i know is the ring of steel protection is
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>>183785647
does it even work for the invader if the host uses seed?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3kEA-M6aA4
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>hissing sound in latria
MAKE IT STOP
it's fucking unbearable in headset
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Are there any fun hexer weapons? I know there's roaring halberd but it's just a halberd with dark damage.

Anything cool?
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>>183782720
Naah mate, I have fat PS3. Played it on release and decided to do new run. Have finished it 6 times now. Cheers!
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>>183785718
from hates fun and magic
as you can imagine, preventing mages from having fun is their top priority
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>>183786014

PLEASE

HELP ME
EEEEEEEUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRGGGGGGGHHHHHHH
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>>183786048
There's crypt blacksword but that's it, nothing as cool as Crucifix or onyx blade in DS3.
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>>183786048

Dark Crypt Blacksword

Because sometimes, sometimes you want to cast "biff"
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>>183786048
>tfw no hexer Weapon/Spell-Tool Hybrid
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>>183786247
there's mace of the insolent but it's an ass
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>>183784682
it looks like sharp is best at 27 and 40. will I need any poise? if anything it would be the charge that got hyper armour I'm guessing.
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>>183785660
I don't care I just want to see for myself now. Someone post this supposed "beauty."
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>>183707223
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>>183787225
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>>183787334
There is just the right amount of these
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>>183725634
literally not true
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>>183785910
>jogging away
uncool
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>>183785921
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJympDSm9ZE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3jeOmvYlGk
sorry if scott triggers anyone but I don't think anyone actually listed those things besides him
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>>183785987
Yes. The point is you can only explode "enemy" corpses.
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>>183781293
this is very bad
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>>183787225
What game? DS3?
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>>183786247
Staves in ds2 did actual damage. Shitty maces basically, but damage they had
>>183788170
Not that anon. Ds2 is canon in a way, but not to draw any meaningful conclusions from it. Unless you think that Gwyn somehow ended up in a volcano and Nito used a katana
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>>183788557

That's DaS3, Anon...
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>>183786247
>>183786371
Sanctum shield. It's actually a pretty good melee weapon too.
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>>183781150
There is an infinite item glitch in demons souls.
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>>183788657
>>183725634
There's no such thing as a dark souls canon. Even within the games the stories are just loosely related settings to justify cool boss battles.
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Why does fromsoft have a fetish for blight town/valley of defilement areas? I have only played DeS, DaS1, and I am in the process of beating DaS2 and going through the gutter and black gulch is such a bore. It just gets really excessive once you are getting poisoned each time you walk 2 meters and having to farm poison moss to at least make it through this level is just as tiring as having to destroy each statue.
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>>183788657
> Unless you think that Gwyn somehow ended up in a volcano and Nito used a katana
what game did you play?

Gwyn got the lord soul, then lost it when killed. The Lord Souls drifted and wound up in drangleic (the entire plot is basically about stuff wandering to drangleic after lordran gets fucked) and it was then obtained by the old iron king

At no point in DS2 is it implied that gwyn actually ended up in a volcano. The opposite, actually. Same with Nito.

Gwyn, Nito, Seath, etc. weren't even the origin of the lord souls, they -found- them. Why couldn't the old iron king find one after gwyn is killed?
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Anyone tried some sort of a tank build? I want to do something new I suppose, so I'm thinking maybe a high vitality heavy armour build + maybe some hp regen effects. Opinions? Tips?
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>>183789921
get a weap. with perseverance to minimize the dmg taken
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>>183789813
>Why does fromsoft have a fetish for blight town/valley of defilement areas?
I'm guessing that Japanese players really like them for some reason (maybe because they provide a pve that requires you to actually plan ahead a bit) so they keep putting them in the game.

They are really cheap ways to avoid having to be creative with your level design though, since the threat of poison allows you to get away with a level that's just a big open circle or a single forward hallway.

oh boy you're going to love DS3
>literally 8 fucking swamp levels

> It just gets really excessive once you are getting poisoned each time you walk 2 meters
They only shoot poison if you walk in front of their line of sight. There's no reason to get hit even once if you just watch where they are looking.

>and going through the gutter and black gulch is such a bore
Use a torch. Like most areas in DS2, using a torch completely trivializes the area mechanics and makes them much easier.
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>>183789921

No point, you can't control aggro and enemy damage can constantly be avoided even when they're attacking you. Both of those end up in the whole basis of a tank playstyle being redundant

If you want a build that has lots of armour, health and still deals damage, go 26 or so STR and put the rest into VIG, VIT, and the END to use your weapon
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>>183789921
tanks haven't been pvp viable since DeS,

If you want to do a tank though, go for a maximum absorption build designed to drain the enemy of estus. high absorption means each point you regenerate is worth more.

At 20 HP/s and 20% absorption, you're healing an effective 25 AR per second
at 20 HP/s and 50% absorption, you're healing an effective 40 AR per second.

12 estus without estus ring and 20% absorption is 7200 HP, or 9000 AR
12 Estus uses with estus ring and 50% absorption is 8640 HP, or 17280 AR.

so with a 50% absorption build, you have basically twice as much estus for the same number of flasks, and that's BEFORE you take into account passive healing.

Which means that

>estus ring
>lloyd's shield ring
>ring of steel protection / speckled stoneplate ring
>havel's ring
>full havels armor
>bountiful sunlight
>blessed greatshield
>weapon with perseverence
>blessed weapon
>filanore's chime WA

should yield enough regen and healing to force players out of estus and beat them in a simple war of attrition. Death by a 1000 needles.

I've tried it. It works, it's very effective, but it's boring as shit to play and people will hate you for it.
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>>183791336
>50% absorption

How?
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>>183790841
>>183791336
I see vit also increases your flat defences. Could high vit be viable at mid game levels for pvp?
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I wanted to be a dragonsis, but I also wanted to punch things with fire and use Warmth. So how's this? I know it's bad, which is why I'm posting it here for advice. The goal is "Punch things with fire, be a dragon, and help players through co-op."
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A quick question.

Is going up there possible now or is it something I will be doing later? I have wasted a good 15 mins running around like an idiot already.
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>>183791769
The room on your right has an illusionary wall that allows you to get up there
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Rest in spices Gael.

Time to uninstall.
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>>183791830
Thanks!

Bit cheap to put an illusory wall on the room with the infispawning cancer, but whatever.
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>>183791884
Yeah, I didn't find it on my first try either.
btw awesome weapon choice, claymore is god-tier
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I made the Divine version of Arty's GS, was this a mistake?
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>>183788867
DaS? Dark Souls is only two words hence DS. I don't understand what the fuck DaS is.
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>>183791648
>dragonsis

Care to post a picture of what you mean? I'm afraid I don't understand this term. I'd greatly appreciate it.
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>>183792121
To contrast with DeS, aka, Demon Souls which is also DS.

>>183791982
Inorite? Fucking awesome feel. I tried to go full dragon knight with the dragon sword, but that requires some weird fucking int build apparently and I don't like spellcasting. Turns out, claymore's amazing.
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>>183792121
In /dsg/ it doesn't really matter, but Dark Souls is generally shortened into DaS, not to confuse it with Dead Space for example.
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>>183792324
Which makes kinda sense for Demon souls and Dark souls, but who here would think ds2/3 means demon souls 2/3
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>>183792198
I honestly thought I had the wrong general for a second.
Anyways a "Faithful Dragonsis" is a character template which is meant for Co-op. Usually a faith build that focuses on support using things like Projected Heal, Lightning Arrow, wide-range healing spells, and the Lothric War-Banner alongside the dragon torso stone and the buff that comes with it. Variations are out there, but the overall goal seems to be "support". It's also kind of annoying furbait, but I try not to think of that part since the concept is neat enough
Which is why I don't have any pictures to post,
as well.
.
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I just killed Orbeck in the forest thinking I'd get the Morion Blade from his ashes. Only now do I know that I can't get it until the very end of the game. For a DEX/LCK build, did I just miss out on a crucial weapon?
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>>183792547
True, but then as someone else said, there are crap like dead space.

But yeah.
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>>183792706
You take that back
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>>183792198
>>183792561
Though I can post the build I was basing my dragonsis off of. I didn't make it, but it seemed solid enough that I could work with it. Haven't used spears before this so it's an interesting experience. Still need to kill the nameless king for his spear, and go through the DLC to get my ranged miracles.
https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/199846
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Well I just fucked up getting a weapon. Anybody have a Morion Blade to spare?
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>>183792885
Well, dead space 3 is trash. Dead space 1 is amazing though, yeah.

Anyway, on a >vlog update. I have gotten to the 3rd bonfire of ringed city and so far, this DLC's just plain fucking bad in my opinion. There are either enemies that existed before (the 2 knights, the swamp bugs), big fatties with a machete or just pure, unfun cancer in the form of the infispawning trash and the angels.

Seriously, who the fuck thought the fucking angels are a good idea. Jesus christ is it terrible.

Ashes of ariandel got slack for being too small, no idea how big this is, but ariandel was always super fun and the weird trees aside (which were meh) all enemies were fun.
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>>183791510
>Havel's Helm: 6.7, 18.5, 4.7, 10.7
>deep protection: 5 / 2.5
>lloyd's shield ring: 25 / 15
>sacred oath: 10 /5
>steel protection: 17 / 5

Unless my math is wrong, that should be about 60% absorption in pve and 47% in pvp.

The body buffs are kind of useless though so it's better to safe your FP for healing. Without them, you will reach 53% and 43% respectively.

you can stack filanore's chime with a normal WA chime and bountiful sunlight and blessed weapon, regenerating 26 HP/s at an average cost of 2.4 fp/s. Which means you're healing enough to survive an extra hit every 5-10 seconds.

The trick is not being combo'd to death while you're casting buffs and also keep up with the other player in damage so that they are forced to keep using estus.


>>183791608
You need a ton of vit to wear havel's anyway.
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>>183793149
How did you lose it?
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>>183793149
Sure bruv.

Arathian on steam, add me and I'll give you mine.
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>>183791884
Fucking hate the dregs
They are way too sturdy
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>>183793468
I 2 shot them, they just do too much damage for how much they respawn. If you should always run past an enemy, that's bad design. Might as well have put spikes on the floor there.
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>>183793292
didn't know I had to bring him to the shrine first, talk to Yuria, then kill him. I just assumed they were in his ashes.
>>183793337
I'm actually playing on PS4...
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>>183780558
Well I'm 3 hours late, but I actually do have that image saved. No sliders, though.
Dunno if she's the most beautiful character I've seen, but not bad.
>>
How much damage great soul dregs do in pvp with 60INT and court sorcerer staff and all damabe boosters?
With Izalith and 40/40?
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>>183792121
Because originally it was DeS and DaS and old habits die hard. DeS/DS1/DS2/DS3 make more sense.

>>183792482
>Ace Combat
>Assassin's Creed
>Animal Crossing
>Assetto Corsa
>Air conditioning

life is hard being a From Soft Fan
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>>183793552
It is in his ashes, but you need to give his ashes to Yuria, not the old firekeeper.

Also, yeah, sorry, no can do on ps4.
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>>183793665
And that's where I fucked up.
I gave it to the firekeeper thinking it would just be there.
Guess it would be a bit odd for a sorcerer to have a bleed weapon.
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>>183793208
the reason people like ringed city is because the last 20% is way better than the first 80%. The opposite was true for ashes. That, and TRC's weapons and rings are all pretty cool / overpowered, so people look past the shitty quality and focus on the final bosses and loot when they form their opinion.

I do agree that it's overhyped and that TRC is worse than the base game though.
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>>183793569
>using the tinder ilumination crutch
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>>183793830
>having good equipment is a crutch
Moron.
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>>183792561
>>183793146

Very nice pictures..., would you be so kind to post more? For some strange reason seeing these pictures makes me smile...
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>>183794024
That's all I got. I saved it specifically to post alongside the build link. Also I'd rather not get banned for posting furry porn, which is what 90% of dragonsis "art" is, unfortunately.
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>>183793569
Can any post a more beautiful character?
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>>183793989
I think he's referring to manipulating the lighting with it
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>>183793569
What compelled you to save a stranger's character?
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>>183793819
I guess I'm too much of a moron for the Morion
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Any DS3 Anons on PS4 want to join me on a dried finger run?

Currently at Halfway Fortress bonfire. Will summon when I see summon sign

Password is pen0r
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Whats this I hear about Bloodshades being back?
is it true? I assume just on PS4 though.
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>>183794114
More! I demand more of this dragon sister.
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>>183794435
Yep

Not sure how long it'll last but I saw some decent activity last night on PS4

Most are trash


Somethings never change
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>>183794414
What sl and ng are you? Also what's with the degenerate password?
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>>183793829
Well, I sure hope it improves. My first time doing the dlc and I have no spoilers about any of it.
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>>183793569
SLIDERS
L
I
D
E
R
S
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>>183794605
120

NG+7

Idfk I'm bored
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>>183794742
Penors relieve you of boredom and entertain you?
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>>183794603
shame. Bloodshades vs Vicars was probably the most fun I had with DaS3.

Well, until salty bloodshades started resorting to instacurse and similar shit.

hasn't been any kind of event nearly as fun as that since.
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>>183794867
Yes they do, lad.

>>183794979
Same

Shit got chaotic at times trying to clear out archers while being chased by 3 edgelords or making the run back to Pontiff's porch to summon another dude in after losing em
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event when?

shit man, I'm bored with this game

DaS2 had tons of events DaS3 so far has had like, what, 2 at best? only 1 big one?

Why not go back to DaS1 or 2 for events now, if DaS3 is just a problem for em?
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>>183795594
The discord cartel will give you one soon enough.
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>>183794979
Are they really back? I have a character that's almost ready. Just need a few more proof of concords and I'll be ready to vicar
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>>183795893
probably only on PS4, since thats where Peeve (and Oro) tend to play.
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>>183794979

Is this on PS4 or PC? And how does it work

I've got two characters who could potentially join in with this depending on required level
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>>183793989
He definitely means >>183794256
The light from the tinder is incredibly flattering for female characters. I don't have a good comparison but it's easy enough to test for yourself.
>>183794329
I think it was the first time I actually saw that fashion being used. Of course, everyone and their mother uses it now so it's kind of redundant to have an image of it.
>>183794741
READ THE POST
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P
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>>183795893
>being almost a year late
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>>183795230
Sorry, sounds like fun but I'm no homosexual. I'm as straight as can be and I love women. I love women even more than I love video games. I really like women especially beautiful women.
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>>183796101
RIP

Guess I'll dryly finger myself alone this run

Maybe Miyazaki will bless me with an invader as a solo dried finger host!
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>>183796062
Yeah no, I get it. I thought he was going to try and say using the tinder and candle as weapons was a crutch.
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>>183795998
pretty sure it's on PS4. PC Bloodshades and Vicars are dead due to hacking.

the idea behind bloodshades was, make a bleed based edgy character with bloodshade in their name, and invasion gank pontiff.

So /dsg/ decided that was cancer, and countered it: make a faith based character with "Vicar" in their name and high bleed resist, that is higher level than the bloodshades, and form a counter ganksquad that invading bloodshades will always run into when invading.

it was fun for a while
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>>183796101
>>183796323
Post your builds and maybe I'll play with you.
>>
>SL45 +4 on Carthus
>Can't see a single fucking sign
Also, every time I see this cinematic, the dagger triggers me
>>
>host has four phantoms for spear of the church fight

What is this shit
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>>183796101
>i'm no homosexual
>comes on /dsg/
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>>183796741
>Equip ultra weapon
>Gain true unbreakable poise and god level flat defense

People who summon four phantoms for Spear are fucking idiots
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>>183796741
>t. I hate wearing poise and using hyper armor
>>
>try to invade at Mausoleum Overlook bonfire
>get summoned in as Spear despite not progressing further and no Spear covenant item in inventory

Working as intended
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>>183796573
post boipucci
>>
>>183797734
>Working as intended
Yes, that literally is how Spears are intended to work.
>>
Hell yeah skeletons
Shame there is no necromancer class or smmoner
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>>183798138
Play Lost Kingdoms

Also there is totally a Summoner class :^)
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>>183797976
Yes. More please.
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>>183797976
Why are you posting emaciated reindeers?
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>>183798382
that's a goat
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>Caitha's Chime is so useless From didn't even check if the Lightening Arrow animation was correct for it

lmao
>>
>trying to fight Dragonslayer Armor with a lightning spear
>no gems for useful infusions
This is hell. I'm in hell! I'm dealing about 80-100 damage at best per hit.
>>
>>183798958
Got an Irithyll Straight Sword?

He's weak to frost.
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>>183799008
Oh thank fuck. I had forgotten about that thing but yeah.
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>>183796573
>bad dragon

oh no

they're starting to become accepted
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>>183798809
Slut
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>Lose 72hp, 2 overall absorption but gain 9 points in stamina when swaping to p.chain instead of fap+3
is it even worth it on a pyro char.?
>>
>>183796573
please tell me what you do for a job to afford all those dildos
>>
>>183799842
Look at the level numbers.

You use prisoner's chain to meet the softcaps, not when you're already above them.

Pchain should give you 75 HP at 34 vigor, vs fap's 67.
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I've run into difficulty in a low level, low weapon upgrade run (want to use the Splitleaf at Farron invasions) and am currently stuck at Aldrich, Sir Vinheim and Champion Gundyr. Any got any advice for how to optimise a low level run? I'm currently using a +1 barbed SS with carthus rouge, raw DSA and the irithyll SS, but I'm not sure this is the best damage setup.
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>>183796627
THAT FUCKING DAGGER
>>
Time to decide
Will you buy another dark fantasy FROM game? Or dark souls 3 killed all trust you had in them
http://www.strawpoll.me/13530081
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>>183799914
Odd jobs here and there. I'm very good at what I do anon-kun, or so I've been told.
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>>183792482
>>183792324
Now I see the point. I never for some reason like ever shortened Demon's Souls I always wrote it Demon's Souls but Dark Souls I wrote as DS but now I see why it's not good
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>>183800209
>>183799842
Or to put it another way:

P-chain:
>34 vigor, 35 end, 15 vit before equipping
>1200HP
>160 stamina
>60 equip load
>SL55 before weapon stats
>-4 absorption

FAP:
>39 vigor, 35 end, 15 vit
>1272 HP
>162 stamina
>50.4 equip load
>SL60 before weapon stats


Net gain with Pchain: Deeper min-max potential
>5 levels
>5 flat defense

Net loss with pchain:
>72 HP
>2 stamina
>4 absorption

Net gain if you re-allocate those levels you saved into vigor
>5 flat defense

Net loss if you re-allocate those levels you saved into vigor:
>12 HP
>2 stamina
>4 absorption
So basically, P-chain is great because it allows deeper min-maxing by giving you free levels in exchange for a little bit of HP/absorption. FAP only starts being better once you can softcap all the other stats and still stay under your SL limit.

Wearing both is ideal though. FAP+Havel+Chloranthy+Pchain is basically a pure melee ideal ring set.
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>>183800652
honestly the problem with DaS3 is that it shouldn't have existed.

by the time Miyazaki became company president, Dark Souls 3 was already in the pipeline. Basically it was greenlit almost as soon as 2 was out. it was already in development by the time Miyazaki came to power, so its not like he could just kill it. (especially when it comes to Bamco's power over the series-they and they alone are responsible for ruining Dark Souls 2)

So DaS3 ended up being phoned in as fuck, just to get it out the door and begin working on their REAL "next fantasy game"

not to mention there was clearly a serious issue with working on both Bloodborne AND DaS2 at the same time. And in fact, supposedly, DaS3 has been in development about as long too. So at some point, Fromsoft had 3 soulsborne games in development at the same time. And it really shows in all 3 games that they were stretched to their limit
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>>183801437
The problem is that das2 at least ended being a decent game
Das3 just garbage all around
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>>183801674
Poor bait
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>>183801674
because DaS2 was a sequel, and as a sequel, to an original game, it was able to expand on certain concepts, while building it's own world.

AKA it had effort put into it. A team or B team or whatever, there was genuine effort put into the game, despite the development troubles it went through.

DaS3 had little to no effort. It's pretty to look at, and technically a better game, but it clearly has no soul. it's barely atmospheric at all compared to even DaS2.

it's clear that while Miyazaki being at the helm again helped the game be more presentable, it was still him phoning it in to get it out of the way.
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>>183802183
Are you fucking serious?
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>>183802563
Come on anon, we all agree that all the numbered games in the series are really disappointing.
We only have 2 good ones, 3 if you think BB counts.
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>>183802338
>It's pretty to look at, and technically a better game

What more do you want from a sequel you pissy cry baby.

>wahhh this game is much better than it's predecessor but I hate it because the devs made it hard for me to win invasions and do unique play throughs and kill bosses in random orders wwwaaahhhh
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>>183800652
You'll get more interesting responses in the /v/ thread you made.
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>>183802802
>What more do you want from a sequel you pissy cry baby.
to be a better game. note I said "technically"

it is prettier and it matches DaS1 animations and all of that jazz, but it isn't as fun to play as DaS2, despite it's flaws. DaS3 is a slog, because many of the gameplay changes are awful, the level design is mostly awful, the enemies are annoying, and all of that hampers the overall gameplay. They turned a series based on slow methodical combat anbd exploration into bloodborne lite. And it doesn't work.
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>>183802784
Lol, das was very disappointing after des
FROM obviously tried only with 3 soulsborne games, des,das2,borne. It's just happened that das2 was too "video gamey" for the people who got into series withdas pc release
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>some idiot posts his retarded opinion that ds2 is better than ds3 because ds2babs can't into faster combat
>somehow manages to start a shitflinging contest
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>>183803025
>the level design is mostly awful, the enemies are annoying
I honestly think this applies to every single game in the series.
If I play any one of them for too long, it becomes painfully obvious, and it seriously detracts from my enjoyment.
I don't know why you think it's a problem in only one of these games.
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>>183803486
because it's the most obvious in 3 for whatever reason. It just feels the most phoned in in almost every way.
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>>183803398
>das3 combat
>faster
No, you just move around faster, same with enemies
Your swings are still slow as fuck if you don't use fast weapon
Play bloodborne to see how actual fast combat looks like, insane das3 fanboy
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>>183803693
Ah, just an opinion, then.
Alright, fair enough.
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>2v2 is always missing one player
what the FUCK
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>>183803706
This. God I wish I could attack faster in DS3. The insane windup for some of these weapons, combined with every enemy seeming to have some space-closing attack combo is frustrating to the point where I basically need to attack first and hope they run into it. Also why can't I cancel animations?
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>>183803025
Just because you're an old man who can't roll attacks doesn't make it bad.

Dark souls 2 is even worst with all of the dumb ambushes and constant over whelming numbers.

It doesn't matter really because you can just mash r1 with a straight sword in any of the three games or cheese it with ranged magic and a bit of strafing. Hell circle strafing bosses and enemies im ds2 is even easier. You can literally circle around fume knight, the supposedly most difficult boss in ds2 who is still laughably easy, and never have to roll any of his attacks and kill him mashing r1s or soul spears.
>muh bloodborne speeds
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>>183801437
>they and they alone are responsible for ruining Dark Souls 2

Some of the blame falls on Tomohiro Shibuya and Suzuki, the lead directors and programmer for the first version of DS2, and Miyazaki for condoning putting them in charge despite them having literally no experience with RPGs whatsoever.

>>183802338
>>183801674
>>183802563
>>183802802
The best way to describe it:
>DS2 is a From Software Game. It focuses on niche complexity/customization and varied progression
>DS3 is a Bandai Namco Game. It focuses on trailer-worthy visuals and more linear gameplay with big anime hype
>BB is a Sony Game. It focuses on atmosphere, style, and single player immersion with a simplistic approach to combat and systems.

The main appeal of DS2 is that it started from a high concept place wanting to shove as much content as possible into a single game disc, with as much complexity and options to the player, even if those options made the game more confusing or awkward/clunky. That is 100% From Software and is the main thing that sets them apart from other game developers, they focus on these very complex systems in all of their games. It's an IKEA game in the sense where you have to figure it out in order to find enjoyment, and a lot of old school fans liked that.

DS3 is the complete opposite, and that's why it's such a disappointment. It holds hands a lot more, gives the players fewer options to change how the game plays, far more of it is mandatory and it throws any sense of continuity out the window in favor of style. There are also sections that are just god-awful in terms of how basic and "phoned in" they feel. Even the laziest parts of DS2 felt unique, even in a bad way. Characters all move and attack the same regardless of your build, making even huge changes to your stats feel pointless. It makes DS3 good trailer / review fodder and fun to watch but boring to play more than once.
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>>183804439
>The best way to describe it:
>>DS2 is a From Software Game. It focuses on niche complexity/customization and varied progression
>>DS3 is a Bandai Namco Game. It focuses on trailer-worthy visuals and more linear gameplay with big anime hype
>>BB is a Sony Game. It focuses on atmosphere, style, and single player immersion with a simplistic approach to combat and systems.

that- actually makes a lot more sense than it should...
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You DaS2 fags cannot apologise for how shit the level design was. It was fucking horrendous, its shocking how this game was a sequel to DaS - the game that gave us Undead Burg.

The bosses were also extremely boring and not memorable at all. For such a long game, I can only remember the smelter demon, and that's because there were 2 of them. The DLCs saved that trash heap of a single player experience.

Let's not forget how disgustingly awful the lighting effects were in that game, it was hideous. The best thing about the game was power stances and infusions.

I can't believe I'm seeing you guys trash on DaS3 when it was infinitely more enjoyable than DaS2. The new mechanics is character builds and movesets don't outweigh its single player shittiness when pvp is such a small portion of all the games.
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>>183805221
If you only list the negative aspects of a game and ignore all the positive aspects, then it sounds awful to anyone.

People don't like DS2 because it's better than DS3 in every way, they like DS2 because it's better at the things that DS3 is worst at, and they care more about those specific things.
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>>183805221
>the game that gave us Undead Burg.
Forest of fallen giants
Lost bastille
Both were better designed
>The bosses were also extremely boring and not memorable at all.
No shit, you could say this about bosses in every souls game except bloodborne(yes including das3)
Das3 is actually worst offender because they decided to go with "every boss should be arthorias" and ended up having all line up being boring and unmemoriable
Bloodborne on the other hand did fast bosses right
>Let's not forget how disgustingly awful the lighting effects were in that game, it was hideous
Das3 fans still buttdevastated about das2 torch having dynamic shadow while his pc game didn't
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>>183776693
R1 combos into WAR2 which is insane bleed proc. WAR1 also combos into WAR2 if the former hitstuns at close enough range for the R2 to land.
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>>183805834
>Das3 is actually worst offender because they decided to go with "every boss should be arthorias" and ended up having all line up being boring and unmemoriable

DS2 is my favorite game but even I admit most of the bosses serve little/no point to the gameplay. The only game with creative bosses that actually play into the various mechanics is DeS, and by extension, DS1 since it provides a mostly better roster of identical bosses.

From makes 1 or 2 good boss fights per game. And they make those bosses REALLLY good. The rest of them are secondary. DeS set a weird standard by having more than 4 proper bosses in the entire game, unlike most of their previous titles.
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ds3 has quality animations
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>>183806515
no one cares bscb fuck off
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>>183805221
>>183805834
Whats so special about Undead Burg?
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>>183806668
dsg has quality posters
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I don't think I can take how shitty /bbg/ has gotten anymore.

What's going on with Souls these days, /dsg/? Where's the PvP in DaS3? Undead Match? Meta still 120?
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>>183805694
>>183805834
The delusion
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>>183806829
What's so bad about /bbg/?
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>>183806926
Depending on who you ask, it's either fine or a festering cesspool
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>>183806926
Read the first ten and last ten posts of the current general.
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>>183806829
PvP is mostly in arena or pontiff, meta's still 120-125.
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>>183806829
Meta is still 120
Quality builds are still good, but are no longer then end-all-be-all.
Bleed is shit now.
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>>183807162
>>183807162
>>183807162
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>>183807229
>>183807229
>>183807229
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>>183807207
>>183807261
Stop this
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>>183807207
>>183807261
fucking idiots
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Well I'd say this was a successful thread.
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>>183808034
You're welcome.
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