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Welcome to the Sonic The Hedgehog General. Here we talk about Sonic stuff! Share art and music, talk about new developments, discuss ROM hacks, speedrunning, and more.

/sthg/ #838 - Nightmare Edition

>Link Compilation<
http://pastebin.com/J6hTXkhK

>Drawfag/Writefag Idea Walls<
http://pastebin.com/j8KkPQ4n
http://pastebin.com/jNKKMk5b

>Sonic News<
Many Details of Mania Revealed at SDCC: Animated Intro, Special Stages, Story, etc.
www.tssznews.com/2017/07/22/sdcc-2017-special-stage-in-sonic-mania-revealed-story-details/

IDW and SEGA Enter Publishing Deal; Will Be Speaking to Fan-Favorite and New Creators
https://twitter.com/sonic_hedgehog/status/888538195045998592
https://twitter.com/IDWPublishing/status/888536084472352770

Sonic Forces "Enter Infinite" Trailer & Theme of Infinite
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mn6uqp_mr98
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKjOJuPjiu4

Archie Sonic Officially Cancelled; Not the End of Sonic in Comics
https://twitter.com/sonic_hedgehog/status/887809496898088960

Several Sonic Events Happening at San Diego Comic-Con 2017
https://www.sonicstadium.org/2017/07/sounds-of-sonic-music-event-set-for-san-diego-comic-con/
https://www.sonicstadium.org/2017/07/sonic-mania-behind-the-scenes-panel-at-comic-con/
https://www.sonicstadium.org/2017/07/sonic-augmented-reality-experience-coming-to-sdcc/

>General Interest Links<
/sthg/ Level Development Kit 3.0:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bw9wQojS0lxpXy1vZHpRcjJtekU/view?usp=sharing

/sthg/ Drawfag Booru
http://theride.booru.org/

Sonic Boom Seasons 1 & 2 can be watched here:
https://kimcartoon.me/Cartoon/Sonic-Boom
https://kimcartoon.me/Cartoon/Sonic-Boom-Season-2

Previous thread: >>183656759
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First for Mania's gonna get delayed again
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>>183721528
>>183721710
>>183721859
Taxman needs to fucking answer for this.
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sonic was and never will be good
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>>183721528
>>183721710
>>183721859
>People will still be mad at SEGA for delaying Mania
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post awful fan-made sonic character redesigns / reboot premises
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>>183721528
>>183721710
>>183721859

what was the context of these? Were those glitches they fixed and were showing to justify the delay? Or were they showing the game off and kept encountering glitches during the presentation?
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>>183722061
Apparently Stealth said it was his fault for the Eggman glitch occuring.
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>>183722271
they were intentionally showing game glitch footage for laughs. they're part of a slideshow, it seems
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>>183722157
These are disgusting.
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I'm just going to repost these since I didn't even notice the last thread was dying, sorry if this bugs anyone. For those curious these were glitches they found during development of the game. During the Mania panel at SDCC they were showing them off since they were entertaining. They've fixed them now of course.
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>>183722271
I think it's pretty much the first one. They were most likely fixed thanks to the delay. Imagine if the game was released with those fuck-ups.
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>>183722354
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>>183722157
This one
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>>183722413
Knuckles Glitch.
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Hi everyone, make sure to get your vote in when we do these polls, it's awkward making final decisions when we only have a tally of 10 votes.

The current poll is "How should levels be entered (If this became a full thing)?", since this is a hub we need to be aware of how something like this will fit into the design and theme (museum).

Currently the options are:
>Big Ring - A preview of the level is inside the ring
>Painting - Like Mario 64
>Display Case - Miniatures of the level will be inside the case, upon selection Sonic will either flashback to the level, fall through a trap door or launched via spring
>Other - Submit your own!

I saw someone was interested in a door idea so I'd like to hear your thoughts on it.

http://www.strawpoll.me/13520540
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My nightmare last night was that Penders was the guest of honor for a Sonic convention.
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>>183722620
Makes enough sense to me. I don't have the code in front of me, but I think I get why this happened and it's hilarious.
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>>183722620
And their favorite glitch that happened.
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>>183722157
>>183722667
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>>183722667
everyone but the girl looks somewhat ok, but why is amy a fat fuck and sally a cripple
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>>183722354
I genuinely cannot express in words how much I hate this.
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>>183722435
If I remember correctly, the Eggman one was caused by Stealth making a branch of the project and not copying a sprite file, so it wasn't really a bug and shouldn't have anything to do with the delay.
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>>183722157
>>183722667
>>183722845

>>183722909
it gets worse. like, i'm pretty much sjw trash but their writeups for these designs are really really fucking obnoxious.
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>>183722845
>>183722909
i regret saying that, now even the males look like shit
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>>183722667
Sonic: Okay, not changed too much.
Tails: Cool, got some goggles
Knuckles: o-okay, leather jacket is a bit wei-
Amy: WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT?
Sally: It's gonna be hard to run missing a foot. But seriously, what the fuck is the point of that?
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So what 10 fighters would Sonic and friends pick if they had to compete in the Tournament of Power?
>Sonic
This one is obvious.
>Knuckles
He's tougher than the rest of them.
>Shadow
The ultimate power.
>Metal Sonic
>Gemerl
>Omega
There's already literal robots competing, so why not. Also two of them can copy the opposition.
>Rouge
The rest of Team Dark is already there, so why not have the trained spy? Also, she can naturally fly, which is a huge advantage.
>Silver
You fuckers wanted Future Trunks, here you fucking go.
>Chaos
Why not? Kinda hard to grab a puddle.
>Espio
As a Chameleon, he can hide pretty well. He's also a ninja, which is useful. Keep in mind weapons are banned, so no shuriken, sadly.

Some characters that won't make it in and why.
>Tails
He can fly and Spin Dash, but Battle has him feature weapons that he won't be allowed to use, which limits his usefulness. He's smart, but so are Rouge and Espio and the robots.
>Amy
Weapons are banned, so no Piko-Piko hammer.
>Big
Tard strength aside, the team already has other heavy hitters.
>Cream
Not really an eager fighter if Battle is anything to go by.
>Blaze
She's from another dimension and not a native to Sonic's universe. If anything, she and Marine might be competing against Sonic and friends. Or maybe their universe is just conveniently except.
>Charmy
Ha.
>Vector
He's strong, a good detective, and breaths fire, but others have that covered.
>Sticks
No boomerang. Or anything else.
>Your OC from Forces
No Wispons allowed.
>Infinite
Probably dies in Forces.
>Tikal
Already dead.
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>>183723019
OH FUCK WHAT THE HELL DID THEY DO TO BARK?!
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>>183723217
Not all of us are watching DBS right now, Anon. You've gotta give context for what the ToP entails.
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>>183723217
>Chaos 0>Big the Cat/Vector
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>>183722909
>>183723079
>>183723382


>>183722667
>Amy and Shadow are no longer hedgehogs, decided to make Sonic the only hedgehog. To be honest I didn’t settle on what species Amy is supposed to be, though she has some bunny-esque features, but Shadow was based off of tasmanian devils.

>Amy is now a witch, and her Piko-Piko Hammer acts like a magical girl wand and broom. She’s a spring witch, casting those yellow and red springs you see in Sonic levels from her hammer, which are also two springs!

>The second Blaze is just her without her sleeves and with her hair untied, to show what her paws and hair look like.

>Jet is based off of a peregrine falcon

>Bark the Polar Bear is now a girl.

There's a shitload more text and it's almost all fucking awful. https://pastebin.com/UC0jC1xW
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>>183723412
Off the top of my head, eight universes with ten fighters each, for a total of 80 fighters. The losing universes will be erased. It's a battle royal free-for all which lasts 48 minutes. Killing is not allowed. Ki can't be used to fly, so Goku and Vegeta can't fly around but if you have wings you're good. You eliminate your opponents by knocking them off the arena, which is shaped like a giant spinning top. Weapons are not allowed. There are however, robots competing in the actual tournament.
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>>183722845
But this is not Shadow
This is Mephiles
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>>183724248
>>183723530
anon, clearly that is Shadow the Tasmanian Devil. he's not an alien or a genetic experiment anymore, he's just a soldier. how could you possibly be confused?
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>>183723090
Whose signature is that below Iizuka's?
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>>183723530
Fuck, now the franchise looks like Overwatch.
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>>183723217
Some more thought on who can't be in.
>Mephiles
fucking dead
>Chip/Dark Gaia
Too big.
>The Babylon Rouges
No Extreme Gear, probably.
>Fang/Nack/whatever
No weapons.
>Eggman
Mechs would probably count as weapons. He's already contributing with Metal, Gemerl, and Omega. He's arguably contributed to the whole damn roster, since he's arguably the reason any of them know each other.
>The Deadly Six
Nah. Having Metal Sonic is enough to put Sonic and pals on edge, and they aren't that desperate for members.
>Wisps
Shut the fuck up Iizuka.
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>>183722157
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>>183724653
Aaron Webber's?
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>>183724710
>>183723871
>>183723412
>>183723217
Here's the rules. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5ZuAq-KRx8
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>>183724686
at least overwatch characters all look cool, anon. i mean, yeah, overwatch is a whole lot of #diversity going on, but never to the sheer degree of tokenism this hack wants.

can we talk about how stupid it is to think knuckles is supposed to be black because his shoes happen to be red, green, and yellow? i don't have any problem with people drawing dark skinned knuckles in fact it's my preference but the way she describes it is just. so stupid.
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>>183724970
I wonder why Sonic Team decided to make Knuckles' muzzle dark brown just for Adventure 2.
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I'm going to buy this when it comes out and we're going to play! Hopefully one of our talented VA anons will still be around and someone will offer to narrate
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>>183724970
I'm all for (actual) diversity, but the Overwatch cast is a clusterfuck of soulless clichés which are ironically more offensive by their shallowness than anything else. Also I hate encasing people in identity boxes. But yeah, the designs look cool. Too bad they're ruined by the awful fluff.

Well this is the 90s, Knuckles have dreads, lives on an island, knows so deep lore and have a percussion-based theme in Sonic 3. He's totally a Rastafarian.
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>>183724810
I guess I have shit taste because this is pretty cute. Magician Amy a cute
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>>183724810
I actually like these ones
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>>183722157
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>>183725238
I thought they were green socks, not ankle bracelets (whatever that is in english)
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>>183725750
Wasn't that trash praised on /sthg/ because it's done by some celeb or something?

Grotesque Victorian, so cool, so deep. Do not criticize pls
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>>183725812
the proper term is foot necklace
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>>183722667
>>183722845
>>183723019
there were actual people that unironically like these designs. Im not joking
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>>183725960
>Wasn't that trash praised on /sthg/
I distinctly remember it was posted sometime last year and most people here hated it. We were constantly arguing about them for what seemed like weeks. It got to the point where one person kept posting the designs and others would immediately start spamming the bait pictures
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>>183725750
>fedora on shadow
why do people try to make shadow so edgy???
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>>183722157
we can't forget this, now.

>>183725960
Oh my god, was it really? That's extremely sad.

>>183726069
fucking kill me
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>>183726069
I can get Sonic through Knuckles, but everything after that is a resounding why. Sally's redesign is also pointless when Bunnie exists.
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>>183726297
I had almost completely repressed my memory of this terrible video, thanks.
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>>183726473
sonic needs to be more vulnerable anon

true design innovation is a backpack
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>>183725750
>>183725960
Pretty sure those were done by Skelly, and only as a simple "what if Sonic was in the style of something else" instead of actual serious "I'd like to see this in the games" redesigns. For shits and giggles, in other words, and not something serious like >>183726297 or >>183722667

So while I'm not particularly interested, I also see no reason to shit on it either.
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Is there a complete collection of the Archie comics or at least the first 100 issues?

I thought I saw one in a Books A Million years ago
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>>183722157
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>>183726297
Great, now he looks like generic Indie character #2403
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>>183726834
>boomcucks will defend this
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>>183726834
I like that design, Sonic the Fighters me irl
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>>183722667
Can western artists draw something without shoving some kind of pc horseshit in there?
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>>183726669
There's a Mega link with most of them in the OP, but I don't know about printed.
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>>183722157
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>>183726834
Fuck, the Boom designs are so horrible. They had no idea why Sonic's design was so eye catching and iconic.
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>>183727010
That's why I love artists like Yoto, Sketch, and Toby, who all try to draw the characters on model while still leaving a bit of their own personal touch.
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>>183722157
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Red & Yellow Sonic, when?
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>>183727782
Why is Yellow Sonic so shy?
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>>183727782
Dude needs to drop the ROM already.
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http://www.gameinformer.com/themes/blogs/generic/post.aspx?WeblogApp=playstation4&y=2017&m=06&d=13&WeblogPostName=head-of-sonic-team-talks-bringing-custom-characters&GroupKeys=games/sonic_forces/

>I've been working on Sonic for a really long time, and I've been getting a lot fan-mail for a really long time - for like 20 years - and a lot of the fan-mail, even 20 years ago, people were saying, "Hey check out this drawing of Sonic I did," and "Hey, check out this character I made that's in the same style or look of Sonic the Hedgehog." I've been constantly receiving these fan drawings or custom-created ideas, so even from 20 years ago, I had this understanding that fans enjoyed creating and existing in this world. I wanted to let people to do that to some extent, but I think the spark started a long time ago when I saw all of these people creating Sonic-type stuff. I understood that Americans like creating their own stuff, so this whole understanding how American fans are interacting with the character was the seed that was planted a long time ago. It just so happens that now we have the skills, the technology, and the team is making a representative world of Sonic the Hedgehog with characters that fit into our world. Players can now go in and make what they want with the format of the series. Fans have been making stuff - we're very aware of that - and we hope they like the content that has been created. But really, the genesis was a really long time ago, seeing all of the created pictures coming into me.

What OCs do you think Iizuka was shown?
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>>183727771
Is it part of board culture now?
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>>183728089
>people still think the custom Avatar was supposed to be Boom Sonic
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What is Sonic tearing up, /sthg/?
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>>183722157
i like these actually
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>>183728089
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>>183728346
A Tails Enemy of the State poster
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>>183728412
i like DLLL but i'm only okay with these designs in a vacuum
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Why exactly do we hate Marble Garden? Even when I was younger, I hated the fuck out of that stage and I don't even know why
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>>183728429
....Is this your first time finding a photoshop template post anon?
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>>183728346
As many issues of the Lara-Su Chronicles.
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>>183728417
WHAT

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>183722157
I like Knuckles and Tails but the Amy and Sonic ones needs touch ups.
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>>183728346
/sthg/
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>>183728346
>>183728573
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>>183728548
It's evidently yours, as you seem to have never come across any smartasses.
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>>183728346
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I wanna fuck Aaron Webber in the Ass! I'm a dude btw!
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>>183728708
>>183728757

Put these on Penders' twitter.
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>>183728539
It's slow and boring. None of the gimmicks like the "mud" or that stupid top thing are fun. It has infinite scroll sections which are always kind of tedious to deal with. The music is only just all right. It's a huge step down from the previous levels' music. The only thing cool about Marble Garden is the boss fight.
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>>183728846
>guy gamers
Disgusting.
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I want to stumble into So A HQ and see Aaron and Jasmine Fucking then Cuck Aaron so hard when Jasmine falls in love with black cock much more bigger then Aaron's then let Jasmine wear a strap on and proceeding to fuckk in him deep in the anus all the while he is crying why Arin Hanson can't be the one to take his anus virginity
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>>183729150
really made me think
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>>183729150
What the fuck
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>>183729150
You okay?
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>>183726834
What a retarded way to split the fanbase even more.
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>>183725384
Yeah if this wasn't any indicator, we're now getting new Sonic Books that aren't the upcoming IDW comics.

https://www.sonicstadium.org/2017/07/three-new-sonic-books-to-be-released-in-2018/
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>>183725750
I like these though, for what they are
They were never meant to be serious, they were more like general design studies by the artist, iirc
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>>183729150
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>>183729398
>ABOUT SONIC AND THE TALES OF DECEPTION
>Delight in new tales of adventure featuring the world’s fastest and most famous Hedgehog hero, Sonic!
>Sonic may be the fastest hero in the world, but he’s got to keep moving to stay ahead of Dr. Eggman’s evil plots! In Sonic and The Tales of Deception, Sonic and his friends save the world from Dr. Eggman and his cronies in three original stories. This set of short stories with full color illustrations is the perfect introduction to one of the most beloved video game characters of all time and a must-have title for long-time fans eager for new content!
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>>183729150
What did he mean by this?
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>>183729398
The second one is gonna get memed hard.
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How come knuckles is paper white in one game but tanned as fuck in another?
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>>183729738
Are you talking about his snout or his personality? Because his snout is never pure white.
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>>183729738
He got a tan. Next question.
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>>183729398
I'm interested. When was the last time Sonic has had general story books. Sonic X adaptions?
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>>183723530
>complains about male characters being naked and female characters clothed
>redesigns have mostly naked male characters and mostly clothed female characters
Really makes you think

Also, making characters diverse just "to be diverse" is the wrong way to be thinking about it.
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>>183729837
His snout.
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HOLY FUCK

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1524784257/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=se0d12-20&camp=1789&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=1524784257&linkId=29a93d6ea770539f84de06fb50b4e8cf
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>>183729895
>Also, making characters diverse just "to be diverse" is the wrong way to be thinking about it.
Tell that to the immense success of Miles Morales.
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>>183729738
As of right now knuckles is lighter than sonic.
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>>183729150
Question though....? Would that Black cock even fit in Jasmine that while she is banging Aaron? I mean she's gonna be tight if Aaron is THAT small to begin with :^)
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>>183729907
Nigger show me a single fucking example of Knuckles with a paper white snout.
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>>183730032
a few exceptions don't unmake a rule
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>>183729150
Please no.
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Guys, it's time to settle this.

Sonic Vs. Shadow.

Who wins?
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>>183730026
Huh, this is interesting as well.
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>>183730236
Sonic canonically won at least the second fight. That's how the Ark didn't laser the United States of America.
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>>183730236
shadow cuz he's a BADASS and sonic's a kid-friendly little shit
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>>183730032
Shame he's a dull """character""" and his book is boring as fuck.
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Hey guys, the Mania panel from SDCC 2017 was uploaded:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5K6hU14wero
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Since the Archie thing is dead, Sonic SCANF should reupload all of their scans.
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>>183730376
In your opinion lol
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I am going to tweet out to Sonic the Hedgehog official Twitter & ask Aaron Webber if he is straight, bit or gay then proceed to ask him if I can fuck his Ass while he sucks on Arin"Grump" Hanson's dick
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>>183730974
You might have a better time if you ask his own Twitter.
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>>183730974
Pics & Tweet or it didn't happen
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Shadow, Rouge, and a Knuckles all look better with darker snouts.
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Super Sonic vs Super Tails when?
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Also I noticed Rouge is the only character with no fur on her body and with normal human proportions aside from her head.
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>>183731596
>normal human proportions
what
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>>183731479
rly got me thinkin

Guys what if Infinity is really just tails brainwashed and stuffed in some super-suit?

Or was tails in the Infinity trailer? I can't even remember anymore.
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Ahh... If it isn't Ken fucking penders... You'll pay for your sins...And those sins being... KILLING THE SONIC COMICS!!! Doom on you... Doom on you... Doom on you... Until you give up your job.
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>>183731827
Tails was there to spout useless obvious facts like he always does
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>>183728417
context plz
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>>183731596
The games have never confirmed whether that's skin or tan colored fur.
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>>183730580
Thank you, good anon.

What the hell does Taxy say at 19:14 though? "It's comparable to Sonic 3 and Knuckles, but we also have additional ____"
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>>183730236
Shadow is stronger, faster and a better fighter than Sonic, but Sonic will win because he has main character immunity and plot armor.
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>>183731979
>>183728417
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>>183731997
just goes to show how high his iq is amirite
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>>183730236
What the heck are those shoes
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>>183730914
Nah, I agree with him.
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>>183732095
you don't sound bitter at all shadow
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>>183721884
>autism general
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>>183728417
>tfw this happened last year and even after all the vitriol aimed at Bazooka, /sthg/ was still rooting for him to kick Ken's ass
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>>183723217
But wouldn't it just be the characters that match up with Universe 7's team?

Sonic = Goku
Shadow = Vegeta
Knuckles = Piccolo
Tails = Krillin
Chaos = Buu

I can't figure out the rest.
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>>183725750
>Posting that image
>But not their Eggman design
For shame.

I kind of wish the Sonic Storybook series continued. It'd be fun to see Sonic in weird stories like Alice in Wonderland or The Wizard of Oz.

I mean, not with the same gameplay as the other two Storybook games, obviously.
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>>183732075
That could be a possibility. People (myself included) assume its just skin because its the same color as her muzzle.
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>>183732410
Metal would be the team's Frieza, and the other two robots are meant to be like how Universe 7 has two Androids.
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>>183732554
That eggman is actually awesome
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>>183726297
>>183726473
>>183726851
>>183726560
He realized how retarded it was to change Sonic like that and listened to people saying he should make the ideas into his own IP.

Rest of his vids are good though.
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>>183732554
it's just as bad
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Sonic should wear actual running shoes instead of his weird dance shoes.
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>>183732578
I always assumed the muzzles were fur instead of skin too. Honestly, it could be either, and it doesn't really affect anyone to think one way or the other.

I wonder what Iizuka would say if asked about it.
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>>183731997
>always
I hate the post-2006 meme

>>183731479
Iizuka decided Super Tails does not exist anymore.
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>>183732747
So should Shadow
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>>183732747
>>183732897
Sonic and Shadow should wear SOAP shoes so that SEGA can get enough money to keep supporting the Dreamcast.
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>>183731827
She has a tapered waist, thick thighs and tig ol bitties. Maybe "normal" is pushing it but she does have a figure that's more like a human and not an animal.
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>>183732967
I miss the soap shoes. They make modern sonic stand out from the classic era more.
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>>183722157
Not quite what you asked for, but i'll take the excuse to post it anyways.
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>>183733180
I don't. They looked flat and overdesigned.
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>>183733180
I hated the soap shoes, the shoes he had in the Riders series were pretty sweet though.
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>>183732664
Who fits Tenshinhan and Gohan though?
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>>183733340
Espio might be a Tienshinhan. Ninjas know how to go for a kill.
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>>183732554
For another Storybook game, I think i'd like some form of Canterbury Tales adaptation
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>>183733295
Jaime Rose is the greatest R63
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>>183732747
I'd like to see someone draw some shoes on the characters besides SOAPs out of curiosity.
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>>183733295
>Team Titty Twister
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>>183733295
Loli Tails is cute! CUTE!
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i think it's nice how chaos helped sonic in the reboot

i hope IDW keeps those sort of things again, i love the general sense of continuity the rebooted comics had. even with minor shit, like how the island Dr. Ellidy lives on is the tutorial stage of Knuckles Chaotix, or how Naugus searched for the Emerald and other crystals in the Proto Palace Zone, which is apparently right under Mystic Cave.
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>>183733305
They were slightly over designed, but that's easily fixable. I always thought modern sonic looked a bit strange with pure classic shoes. They need to be at least a little different.
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>>183734072
I liked the shoes he got post upgrade in the original Sonic Adventure.
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>>183733326
Those hi-tops were dope.

I wish they'd mix up sonic's shoes a bit more like they used to. Even if it's just slight variations. I never liked the classic pointy shoes in 3d.
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>>183734201
Exactly, his new design works great with alternate shoe designs. He has the proportions to pull off a variety of looks.
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What shoes would you replace Modern Sonic's with?
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>>183734541
>>183734180
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>>183734601
Those are perfect!
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>>183734541
I would legitimately replace them with >>183732747 or something similar. He'd look better with actual running shoes.
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>>183722667
Sonic looks definitely nice here with theses straps on his shoes, especially when it's tied to that golden piece. It emphasizes that it's sneakers. Why does he has straps on his hands, though?

I like the jacket on Knuckles, because it shows more of his body and his white mark he has, and his different gloves and shoes gives a greater meaning that he is able to dig stuff, but all of this makes it harder to see Knuckles is an ex-citizen of the lost vanished mystical people. He look cooler and manlier, but he isn't supposed to go on this way.

>>183722845
That's an interesting Jet. Although he doesn't look anymore like a racer and it should never be considered by Sonic Team, I still like it. I can now see he really looks like a hawk now, and the scarf he has makes him look fabulous.

>>183723019
Same as Jet for Vector: his glasses and communicator makes me think he's a 90's guy, which I like it, but never should be considered by Sonic Team.
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>>183732747
>>183734748
These look autistc though.
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>>183734748
Any brand preference that you wish SEGA had a deal on, or no?
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>>183734948
Nah, brand deals probably means Sega would need to keep re-upping the rights. Just make them generic looking running shoes.
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Reply with whether you were introduced to Sonic through classic or modern games and which generation you prefer now
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>>183735158
Modern & Modern
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>>183735158
My first game was the PC Sonic and Knuckles Collection. After that, I wouldn't touch Sonic until Advance, and then Secret Rings. I've since gone full Classicfag, though I also like Adventure and Generations.
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>>183735158
Dreamcast and Modern. Dreamcast games do not count as Modern titles.
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>>183735158
First game was Mega Collection on the Gamecube, I was 14 at the time.
I prefer Modern Sonic, but I enjoy both generations of games a lot.
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>>183735158
First two Sonic games were Mega Collection Plus and Heroes. Classic barely edges out Modern to me because of the sheer playtime invested in 3&K.
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>>183735158
Modern, Modern, and also Modern.
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>>183728346

The Archie contract.
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Is bessi the bat a cancer on this fandom?

Y/Y?
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>>183735158
Sonic 2 was the first game I ever played. I like the modern games, especially SA1 and SA2, but my favorite Sonic game will always be S3&K. My dick has been rock hard for months in anticipation of Mania.
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>>183733956
You mean making Sonic's world actually consistent and not a jumbled mess?

Ian basically made it seem like the world of One Piece compared to how Sega handles it/
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>>183735440
What is Tails thinking?
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>>183735158
Classic - Classic

Although I have a guilty pleasure for Sonic Heroes, please don't tell anyone.
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>>183735158
My first sonic game was the collection cart on the genesis that had 1,2, and mean bean machine.
I think classic games have been more consistantly good, but then again I think most of the 2d games are just better than the 3d games because they control well.
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>>183735158
Classic
I don't take sides
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>>183735158
I was introduced through the Modern games (Advance 2 to be more specific). And while I have nothing but love for 1-3&K/CD, I just like more Modern games & I love the Modern cast
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>>183735158
Classic and No Preference
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>>183729398

>Sonic and the Tales of Deception
>By JAKE BLACK
>Illustrated by IAN MCGINTY
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>>183735286
First game was either Mega Collection or Advance 1. I think I like Modern however I don't have a super strong preference. I like various parts of the franchise.
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>>183727771
>>183721884

Okay, so what is this?

Did someone get a Sonic drawing from Penders?
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>>183728346
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>>183736065
You are correct good sir.
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>>183736142
Is it today?
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>>183735946
Those better not be the fucking new Writer/Artist
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>>183735158
My first game was Mega Collection. I have so many hours on that game, it's unreal.
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Tails is a bad boi
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>>183736218
Friday
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>>183735946
Who?
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>>183736283
>>183736218
didn't it get canceled?
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>>183735946
>>183736226
Since when has any person/children's writer from regular book from the Sonic franchise meant they work or will work on the comics?
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>>183736282
Only where it counts.
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>>183735158
Sonic 2 Master System, then Sonic CD. I prefer neither Classic nor modern games, I prefer the spinoffs and non-genesis classics.
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>>183736226
They're books being published by Penguin Random House, it has nothing to do with IDW. Fucking read thing before commenting.
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>>183736473
Anon, the world premiere celebration party was yesterday.
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>>183735158
l had Mega Collection and both Adventure games way back in the early 00s. It gave me love for Sonic as a whole and I was never even aware of the retarded divide between classic and modern fans. I didn't even realize it was a thing until last year. It's made me resent classic fans and even Mania to an extent because of how petty and unnecessary they can be. There are good and shitty games from the 90s and the 00s/10s. People act like classic is this sacred era that never had mediocre games when that's so far from the truth. Just like modern has had good and mediocre games. I think too much of the fanbase nowadays care too much about what non fans think of them instead of just playing the games they like and ignoring the games they don't.
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>>183736632
We're going to get a Sonic x Hello Kitty x Steven Universe x Adventure Time crossover and you're going to like it, anon!
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>>183736282
>>183736606
Cease this degeneracy at once
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Name your favorite Sonic Girl.
Got her? Okay.
This little fucker has possessed the girl you chose.

What do you do?
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I just checked the twitter of that guy who's going to be the editor of IDW Sonic. What a fucking cuck, I hope it doesn't affect the book in any way.
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>>183728346
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I did my duty. Why haven't you yet, anons?
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>>183736978
Please explain without buzzwords so that I don't have to go digging through twitter.
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>>183736887
This guy knows what's up.
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>>183736978
Quit your baiting, /pol/. Fuck off.
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>>183729398
I wonder if this is the direction IDW Sonic will take, though.
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>>183736978
You guys are aware people with SJW views have worked on the Archie comics for years now. There's even a stealth canon yuri pairing in the Archie comics now.
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>>183737045
IT'S HAPPENING
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>>183736978
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>>183737160
Not just that, but Sega has literally been lefty greens since the 90s, and Sonic has always been about saving the environment.
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>>183737141
It has nothing to do with IDW. It's completely separate from any comics. There were Sonic books being published when the Archie comics were still going and they had nothing to do with each other aside from following the same basic SoA/SatAM backstory.
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>>183737045
Because I have no intention of buying the comic.
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>>183736896
Believe it
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>>183728346
Another.
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>>183736978
>I hope it doesn't affect the book in any way
SEGA has last say on everything that goes into any Sonic media. You should know this by now.

>>183737219
>>183737068
He has views that would be considered SJW. Not that it matters so long as he remains a professional with his work.
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>>183737246
And from the strictly American side of things, what do people think the FFs are? They're civil rights activists.
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>>183737160
>>183737290
There's a difference between being leftist and progressive and being an SJW fuckwad like the editor who would want a Sonic character to be trans and have overbearing social commentary in the stories.
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>>183737160
>There's even a stealth canon yuri pairing in the Archie comics now.
Where?
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>>183737045
Laziness and a lack of address to send to.
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>>183737495
Or to a might-makes-right fascist, they're anarchists.
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>>183737045
>Wanting Ian to come back.
>Wanting him to be head writer at that.
What the fuck are you faggots doing? I want something fresh. Not Ian's usual predicable shit.
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>>183737396
Hey, give me back my drawing!
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>>183737468
Does that mean left of center or does that mean thon thon.
People abuse SJW as a term so often that what they mean isn't clear anymore.
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>>183737503
Nobody cares about your boogeymen, /pol/.
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>>183726964
I always separate Boom Sonic from classic/modern Sonic. I find the Boom games for 3ds not that bad. I like the boom cartoon, where it is funny/jokey first, action second.

I think the design of the boom characters is to not to collide with the origional IP.
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>>183737139
>muh /pol/ boogeyman

literally kys
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>>183737561
It's on their website under contact. Send it to the letters to the editor.

There, that's one of those problems addressed.
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>>183737503
There's no need to write off a book series before it's even been created yet.
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>>183737045
We've had ten years of Ian's shit, I want something new and fresh.
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>>183735158
I was actually introduced to sonic via a plug and play port of sonic fucking blast of all thingsbut the first sonic game that I actually played and enjoyed were the VC ports of 1 and 2

I'm kinda all over the place 3, 2 and especially 3&K are my favorite games in the series, the speed stages of sa1 and 2 are probably my favorite sonic levels mechanically (with a few exceptions), and the 3d boost games are the most polished sonic games over all (let's be real guys even the classics were pretty glitchy)

Also battle and advance trilogy are the best sonic games aesthetically
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>>183737605
Boom was never meant to be canon in the first place. Your point of view is rational.
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>>183737747
I'm not writing it off, but there IS cause for concern and he is a dangerous nutcase.
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>>183737831
>>183737570
Fuck off faggot and stop samefagging. You want Penders? This is how you get Penders.
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I am Americas #1 Sonic Fan. Why?

Well I've been with Sonic ever since colors and that was the best moments of my childhood right their. If I ever felt like I had a bad day or had a great day, I would turn on the Wii and okay some Sonic Colors

Once I turned 10 I started getting real with my inner Sonic and I can't even list how much I tried to imitate sonic, so I'll just give you a few of them

•I spent almost a year redecorating my room so it could look like Green Hill Zone

•Spent 5 hours on my hair trying to make it look like Sonics

•Have dressed up like Sonic for the past 6 Halloweens

•ive even been to Sega every year since 2010

If that doesn't make me the top sonic fan in america then let me give you more of what my past with sonic was like.

The next "canon" sonic game I ever beat was Sonic Generations and that lead me to an even bigger experience with him. Once I beat that game, I went on to play every other Sonic game I could and that was one heck of year. I would invite my freinds, who have never played a sonic game in their lives, to cone over and play with me. Sure they didnt know what they were doing but they had fun regardless, and thats were I lead this story to today. I've collected nearly everything that has the word SONIC THE HEDGEHOG printed on it, played and completed every Sonic Game (almost), and through the worlds BIGGEST PARTY just to watch the livestream announcing Sonic Mania and Sonic Project 2017(which we now know as Sonic Forces). So let me know what you guys think. Am I Americans #1 Sonic Fan or not. (Ps: I am Americas #1 Sonic Fan)
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>>183735158
I was introduced to Sonic through classic. First game being Sonic 2 on a Genesis my parents bought for me from a Salvation Army. While Sonic 3 & Knuckles is my favorite game of all time, I usually prefer to play the modern games.
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>>183737707
I'll try and write something up then.
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>>183737906
>Not wanting Ian is wanting Penders.
Are you alright in the head, anon? Dude, Ian is not the only person on the planet who can write Sonic. Stop being a damn fanboy.
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>>183736978
I hope he affects the entire book in any way possible and you get angry about it because of how much of an autistic little faggot you are.
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>>183737882
Dangerous nutcases hurt people or want to hurt people. His actions don't indicate he is that sort of person. Maybe he has a bone to pick with The Man but so what?
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>>183737747
Ignore him. He's looking for reasons to get upset over shit that hasn't even been created yet, despite SEGA having last word on anything that goes into any piece of Sonic media.


>>183737936
>best moments of my childhood
>Colors
H-how old are you, anon?
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>>183737906
>samefagging
Fuck off you little prick, heaven forbid more than one person not like your precious Ian.
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>>183737532
Sally and Nicole.
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>>183738115
Not him, but Colours came out 7 years ago. I was 11 at the time and the only reason I wasn't on 4chan was that I didn't speak English yet.
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>>183738041
Penders isn't a person. He's a symptom. Of a shit comic industry that rotates out writers every year or two in order to do two things, build up a writer's CV, and to reboot the comics to make that sweet #1 money.

It doesn't have to be this way. Healthier industries with consistently better stories in other countries don't pull the shit that DC and Marvel do.

Stop taking their shit. Just like not Ian doesn't automatically equal bad, it also doesn't equal good either. You might end up with shit garbage.
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>>183738103
>His actions don't indicate he is that sort of person

I have to disagree, he sounds unhinged. I don't read comics anyways though so what do I care.
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>>183738289
Psshh, that wasn't canon.
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>>183737570
>>183738041
Sorry anon, the main reason some of us are so adamant on having Ian around is simply because Penders has left such a horrid taste in our mouths. It's tempting to want something fresh but at the same time, Ian is proven successful and he's just a comfort zone for us. It's a risky move to bring in a new writer for the comics who may or may not make IDW's first few Sonic issues shitty, so there's a perfectly understandable fear at works, one that has been reinforced through Penders' action.
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>>183738305
I was 19 when Colors came out lel
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>>183738041
Ian is the only writer in the goddamn world who:

1) Has had YEARS of experience writing Sonic
2) Has actually played the games
3) Isn't a normalfag who wants to get rid of all things edgy and make it a self-deprecating comedy series

Think for one second what would happen if Ian stopped writing Sonic and it was handed off to, I dunno, Bill Freiberger.
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>>183738456
Bill wrote the best issue of Sonic Boom, so...
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>>183738289
Sally & Nicole were just friends, anon.
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>>183738456
Or [Insert random shit modern Marvel/DC writer here]

Most of them are fucking terrible, and never get a handle on the fucking characters they're writing, making all their characters the same as whatever last comic they were rotated off of.
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>>183738371
I said stealth canon for a reason anon. Even if it isn't canon for real, it's certainly pandered to a lot by that one artist whose name I forget. She draws them romantically on her twitter a lot.
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>>183737873
There is the Megaman crossover with Sonic, Worlds Unite, with Sticks the badger from Boom crossing over. There was a 4 panel mini comic where the boom character(s) break the fourth wall.
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>>183738643
Jennifer Hernandez, I think.
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>>183738428
>>183738456
>I want shit exactly the same.
You know what? Fuck you guys. I hope IDW doesn't listen to you. I want potential new and good talent. That will never happen with you faggots fanboying over the same people and not wanting change. I bet you're the same people who want the Freedom Fighters to stay.

Seriously, all of you should be ignored for the sake of the new comic.
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we can have both Ian and new writers, you know
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>>183738767
Remember that one time she shit all over ABT

remember that guys
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>>183738643
Hernandez is an unhinged, fucking nutcase. Nothing she draws on her twitter is canon in any capacity.
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>>183738810
Which is exactly what should happen
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>>183728346
Fuck you. Whenever I make photoshop templates no one ever responds to me. You guys suck
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>>183738843
another reason why i hate women
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>You are being held at gunpoint by a masked female assailant.
>She pushes you into a room where two men are dressed up as Larasu and Sonic.
>She tells you in order for two of you to live. You had to fuck one of the men anally while they are in costume.
>The one is Illzuka in the Sonic Uniform while the other is Ken Penders.
>She continues forth saying the one you didn't fuck in the Ass will be killed.
>Fucking neither of them will send all your bodies into a Swiss cheese macabre gorefest
>your hands are blinded and you are NOT in the position to fuck the female assailant. If you try it then death becomes you all.
Now play the game.
The Nonary Game
NOW CHOOSE
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>>183738798
Why not hire Ian on and then have other writers rotate in on backups and universe issues?

You know, like we had before. We're not getting Evan on the comic as a writer because we tried her and she wasn't the best.
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>>183738810
We can. But there are certain people who want Ian to have a high position and have most of the others spots be given to all the staff from Archie.
This is a new comic, but they are idiots basically asking for a continuation of the Archie one, which shouldn't happen now.
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>>183738961
I choose the option that gets me killed.
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>>183738861
There you go with "unhinged" again. Are you always this dramatic?
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>>183738643
>>183738767
Hey, JenHen just has ships she likes. Besides, they're pretty cute together.

>>183738810
Anon, come on now. There's no such thing as a middle ground.

>>183738843
Meh. I've seen people say far worse & I think even abt didn't really give a shit when he saw those tweets. If he didn't care, why should we?
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>>183738961
A Mobian Film
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>>183739085
release me from this horrific world
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>>183738843
No, I remember when she rambled on her private twitter about something inconsequential and someone screen capped it because they wanted to start drama.
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>>183738901
Which templates did you make? I remember a Sonic and Mighty template from a couple threads ago but there was no response to that.
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>>183738798
>potential new and good talent
>in the Sonic fandom
I want that sort of thing too anon, but you'd honestly be hard-pressed to find someone who

1. Has decent writing experience
2. Actually likes and has a great familiarity with Sonic
3. Doesn't have a few screws loose and isn't some crazy SJW bent on working their views into the writing
4. Wants to willingly write Sonic comics for a living

if you have any ideas then you know, be my guest

i'd rather not let IDW diceroll a few new writers however

just like with the Mania, i'd rather the comics play safe as fuck up until we've gotten extra comfortable
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>>183738961
>My hands are blinded
No! Not my eye-hands! I use those to see-touch!
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>>183739262
okay jen
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>>183737468
>SEGA has last say on everything that goes into any Sonic media
They did with Boom, tell me how that went.
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>>183738961
On this day, I go to Sovengarde.
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>>183738686
yes, cross over, not part of cannon
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>>183739351
Even abt, the guy she was talking about, literally saw the tweets and didn't give a shit. You really think other anons don't feel the same way? You have some kind of vendetta against her is all.
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>>183739150
>Meh. I've seen people say far worse

WOW I GUESS THAT MAKES IT OKAY THEN

AS LONG AS IT'S NOT LITERALLY THE WORST THING YOU'VE EVER READ

>I think even abt didn't really give a shit

Or maybe he's trying to keep it classy among his peers? ABT is being the bigger man here, yes, that doesn't make what she said okay.
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>>183739083
I want people retained from the Archie comic who were good. There's no reason to simply get rid of all of them just for the sake of change when some of them are talented enough to deserve to keep working. There's no reason why they can't rotate some of the previous staff while bringing in new people. The biggest reason why I want Ian to stay on is basically what >>183738456 said: he's actually familiar with the material and won't just turn the comic into generic shit like Pontaff. We can have Ian start things and rotate in new writers to see if they're any good.
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>>183738798
>I bet you're the same people who want the Freedom Fighters to stay.
And what the fuck is wrong with that? SEGA owns the Freedom Fighters and they can be made to work the same way Honey worked, the same way Nack worked, the same way Bean, Bark, Kukku and fucking Wendy worked. Stop circlejerking with the other Classicucks hating on them for being "fancharacters" just because you have a hateboner for SatAM, you disgraceful faggot.
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>>183739529
okay jen
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>>183739282
>Amy getting so worked up from seeing Sonic she gets dizzy
Be honest /sthg/, how would you react if you ever got to meet Sonic?

>>183739431
Well, Sonic Team also got involved during ROL's production. But the cartoon has been fun.

>>183739535
I'm not saying her comments were okay. I'm saying that abt didn't give a shit, so we have no reason to ourselves. He's a grown man. He doesn't need /sthg/ to get angry for him.
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I just hope this IDW series will stand out and not just be a copy of Archie Sonic again. Something new and different would be great.
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>>183739041
There's a high probability of that considering Jon Grey is an editor at IDW and most, if not all, of the people that worked on Archie Sonic are freelance. I doubt abt or anyone could say anything about it just yet but I doubt they haven't put in their application for it.
>>183739150
JenHen is also a bit of a bitch so fuck it.
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>>183739535
There is nothing to be a bigger man about. So she doesn't like the way he draws Sonic, big freaking deal. I'm not calling her an angel, but some of you are lusting for a drama bomb where there simply isn't one.
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>>183739314
I think he tried to post from mobile and autocorrect happened. He totally meant cuffed or bind.
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>>183739657
There's two shitposters who have been shitposting since for-fucking-ever about making the comics into just advertisements. They never go away. They just stop posting for a bit and come back the next day. Ignore them.
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>>183739657
Well, most of them worked okay. Wendy was horrible.
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>>183739747
I agree. start fresh
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>>183739746
>I'm saying that abt didn't give a shit

And I'm saying we have no idea how he actually felt when he read those tweets. If he felt hurt but didn't want to make an issue out of it, I wouldn't blame.
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>>183739697
Whatever helps you sleep at night kiddo.
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>>183739789
No, there definitely is, and ABT is definitely being the better man here. He could've just as easily attacked her work right back, but he didn't.
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>>183739657
I don't know why you people think they deserve a special place in the franchise out of all the characters created in the other continuities. in my opinion, they need to either fuck off or other characters have to come on board with them. I've had enough of seeing only SatAM crap.
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>>183729398
Huh, I wonder if this has to do with the Archie situation. Was Archie's license exclusive?
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>>183740027
He wasn't attacked to begin with.
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>>183740032
>in my opinion, they need to either fuck off or other characters have to come on board with them. I've had enough of seeing only SatAM crap.
Wow, so what you want is exactly what the post-reboot comics were doing.
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>>183740032
>Seeing only SatAM crap
This person doesn't read the comics.
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>>183739948
okay jen
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Would you consider Amy's crush on Sonic unhealthy?
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>>183740032
>or other characters have to come on board with them.
Okay? I mean, I loved seeing obscure game characters & AOSTH characters getting some love in the post-reboot comics, so I wouldn't mind that happened.

>>183740189
Ehh, maybe back in the 2000s, but she's calmed down since.
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>>183740091
>reading comprehension
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>>183740189
It's been toned down quite a bit recently, so I'd say nah. If you asked me back in 2004, I'd say hell yes.
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Apparently I was being talked about last thread and I didn't notice? I spent most of the day watching Ed, Edd 'n Eddy stuff and somehow two threads got archived. /sthg/ is too fast.
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>>183740374
The absolute state of sparky right now
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don't respond
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>>183740374
What's your favorite EEnE character?
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>>183740189
No. She isn't obsessed with him, and she has other hobbies and motivations besides him, and she has many close and healthy friendships with a wide variety of people. She may be an aggressive flirt but she never takes it too far. She also calls Sonic out on his shit pretty regularly in various continuities.
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>>183740189
Yes, because regardless of how far she tones it down she's ultimately still infatuated with someone who doesn't reciprocate those feelings. She needs to accept he'll never want her as anything more than a friend and move on.
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>No one here actually fucked the two degenerative men in their Sonic cosplay. Thus the woman started opening fire as bloodshed splattered all over the room and not just gore even. Various large amount of fecal and urine matter from Penders and Illzuka splashing throughout the entire room
>The girl chuckles."Should've just fucked. Now your all fucked up dead." She then leaves locking the door to the dark room where nothing but the heavy stench of carcasses remain

BAD END
"YouI've all done fucked up"
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If you could ask Iizuka one question /sthg/, what would it be?
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>>183740317
I'm glad we agree.
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>>183740374
Fuck off Sparky, just because someone mentions you doesn't mean you have to fucking reply.
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>>183740032
Nicole adds an element to the franchise you couldn't achieve with any other character. Sally does too, to a lesser extent. Naugus makes a good villain and Snively is a better evil sidekick than fucking Orbot & Cubot.

The rest (Bunnie, Antoine, Rotor) I could do without. They're just kinda there. If they're included I want them seriously retooled.
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>>183740691
That's not an agreement, I'm saying you can't read.
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>>183740556
"Do you think you've done a good job with the franchise?"
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>>183740547
Sounds like a happy ending to me.
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>>183740296
>Ehh, maybe back in the 2000s, but she's calmed down since.
The only time her crush on Sonic was unbearable was in Sonic Heroes. Outside of that dubiously canon storyline, Amy's feelings for Sonic have only ever seemed like an innocent crush to me.
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What two Sonic characters does /sthg/ think would have the most interesting interactions?
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>>183740916
Sonic and Tails
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>>183740876
True. Naoto Oshima San will once more lead Sonic into the right path since Illzuka would be dead figuratively
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>>183740916
Sticks and AoSTH Robotnik.
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>>183740819
The irony is you didn't realize I was taking the piss at you by saying you're the one who lacks reading comprehension.
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>>183740556
"What's your dream Sonic game?" Would be legitimately curious to hear his response
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>>183735158
I was introduced to Sonic via Super Mario Bros Z
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>>183738456
While I'm not a fan of what Freiberger has written, it's far from the worst case I can think of. At least the Boom writers are rather redpilled.
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>>183740818
ok i agree with you for the most part but Naugus was a lame villain

in the reboot he got lamer, he's just too cheesy and simple and his personality at its base is just "hammy douche"

snively was prolly my fave
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>>183741045
I understand that was your weak attempt at a retort, I simply clarified so you couldn't weasel your way around your stupidity.
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>>183735158
Classic. I prefer whatever's good.
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>>183740916
Big and Infinite
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>>183740906
Ehh, she was pretty bad with it in Battle & Rush too.

>>183740916
I've always wanted to see Rouge & Amy team up in the games. It would be interesting seeing two polar opposite characters trying to actually get along.

>>183741065
>SMBZ
Man, remember how that thing was supposed to come back?

>>183741152
>>183741045
Take this shit somewhere else, please.
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>>183740916
Infinite and Cream.. On second thought Infinite would murder Cream with no hesitation, he isn't like Shadow who is secretly a softy and respects women. Never mind.
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>>183741058
we already know the answer to that, anon
_____mario
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>>183740906
We're also free to do whatever we want ;)
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>>183741126
No I'm perfectly aware of how lame he is, but Ian made him and Wendy work as a Team Rocket-style duo.
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>>183725528
THIS, CHRIST.

There's no unifying character design in Overwatch. It's several different artists emulating different things without coordinating with each other. It's fucking frustrating just to look at.
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>>183737045
That was pretty well written, anon. Well done.
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>>183741152
Like the other anon said, let's put this to rest. Wouldn't want you to get unhinged.
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>>183741163

>Infinite tries to beat up Big
>"That's not very nice."
>Big flings Infinite across the zone
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>>183741369
>>183725528
Mind going into detail on the "no unifying design" thing? I'm not seeing it.
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>>183741406
I agree, not that you had any way to respond to that.
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>>183741163
I need to see Infinite confounded by Big's stupidity.
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>>183740510
Double D. Because of him, I always wear a hat and I can't stand not having something covering my head.
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*takes your general*
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>>183741163
I need to see Big & Infinite interact.
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>183741868
> I always wear a hat and I can't stand not having something covering my head.
This is due to a want for familiarity, and is not considered mentally sound.
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>>183740916
Shadow and Blaze
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>>183741868
AUTISM.
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>>183739746
>how would you react if you ever got to meet Sonic?
I'd feel sickened.
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>>183742147
>a want for familiarity
what?
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>>183741552
I actually fell let down by this response. I really hope you're only pretending to have no sense of humor. Are you always this frigid when you argue about things? Learn to laugh at things a little.
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>>183742228
You know that Peanuts character who carries around his blanket? Something like that.
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>>183739746
>Be honest /sthg/, how would you react if you ever got to meet Sonic?
I'd freak out seeing a walking talking animal.
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>>183741868
Sounds cute. What kind of hats do you wear? What's your opinion on bandanas?
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>>183742267
>still sperging

fucking kek
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>>183742147
are you a psychiatrist? I could use one
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>>183741868
He's my favorite follow by Rolf and Ed
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>>183742214
If I got to meet Sonic I would feel disappointed by how short he is. Even knowing he's only 3 feet tall I like to imagine he is around my height or taller.
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>>183742147
....what? Dude, I just copy traits from any fictional character that resonates with me. I wanted to be like Double D as a kid, so from then on I became attached to keeping my head covered by some sort of hat or hood. And also because I'm a shy person, it's useful for hiding.
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>>183741535
This is the kind of thing that a lot of people have a hard time seeing unless they participate in the arts themselves or pay very close attention to them. It's hard to explain in words, but I'll try to.

A component of an artist's style is their unifying elements. When someone tries to draw a character, there's methods in which they draw something as the "baseline" and they create differences from that base to add nuance and identity. Usually an artist will have an array of basic building blocks to work with, but they all come from a single core. In this way, characters designed by a single person, no matter how talented, can often be compared based on how they deviate from each other. An example of a franchise that keeps things VERY close between characters is Sonic, where most of the differences are very obvious, like eye shape, hand size, shoe design, etc.

The thing is that Overwatch has several different artists and they aren't coordinated when designing characters. Because of this the characters' differences are inconsistent, the style varies significantly between artists, and things straight up just don't mesh.

Like, Junkrat is very much in the style of the DCAU Joker. Meanwhile there's a little dwarf in the style of the Lost Vikings. He doesn't look like a midget viking in the same style as Junkrat, he's just someone else's entirely different style lumped into the same world. There are characters who are "more sinister" than two other characters, but has sharper eyes than one but rounder eyes than another. The visual elements just don't coordinate at all.
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>>183742308
I have it in my mind, but I'm not very familiar with the peanuts. Explain further.
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>>183740916
amy and Knuckles.
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>>183742431
It's always good to get help, anon!
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>>183742387
>calling someone autistic in a sonic the hedgehog 24/7 general on a chinese cartoon image board
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https://youtu.be/llJPdy4dK_c
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>>183742559
I unironically agree
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>>183740916
shadow and silver
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>>183742559
I would really love to see these two interact. Their relationship in Shattered was just great.

>>183742596
>>183742387
You're both autistic. Stop trying to get the last word in
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Classic Amy > Modern Amy
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Reminder that Double D was the singing voice for Sonic in Underground.
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>>183742267
Not that anon but since when do you laugh or use humor when you're having an argument or a debate?
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>>183742457
>I just copy traits from any fictional character that resonates with me.
That's the problem.
>And also because I'm a shy person, it's useful for hiding.
Jesus Christ Sparky.

>>183742431
You should go talk to one in real life and not some anon talking out of his ass on a Mongolian dish-washing board.

>>183742540
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linus_van_Pelt
This kid carries around a secuirty blanket that he can't be without.
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>>183742308
Linus
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>>183742637
kek
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>>183742367
I usually just wear ... what are they called... snapbacks or baseball caps or whatever, preferably with a flat brim. I also like wearing ... ski hats, I think they're called. Like, the kind of hat Double D wears. Though I don't wear those as often, and if I do it's usually just over my normal hat.

Half the reason I like these kinds of hats with the brim is because of another cartoon character I grew attached to at around the same time as I did Double D, which was Timmy Turner, though don't expect me to wear pink ever.

Bandannas aren't really my style.

...

How would Sonic or Shadow wear a hat, with their spikes?
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>>183742882
Yeah but what's the problem?
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>>183742806
Amy > Amy
Try to prove me wrong
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>>183742806
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>>183742850
Yeah I remember. It was quite conflicting.
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>>183742963
>>183742945
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>>183742637
I love it.
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>>183742850
I once read an Ed, Edd 'n Eddy/Sonic crossover fanfiction that referenced that.
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Guys, I have a leaked copy of the StH movie plot from Sony, 100% legit.

Here's the plot:
"It's just your average ordinary mid-20s type of dude. His parents are scientists who were dabbling in portal technology. They have gone missing for 6 years. Average dude goes back to their home and see what kind of things were left behind. While checking it out, he accidentally bumps a button on their portal. Here he finds out that the portal was a success! But poor average dude was sucked in.

"While going through the portal, his body begins to change. He starts to grow fur, animal ears, and a tail! Wait a second, why are there two of them? He gets dumped into a forest and immediately gets targeted by robots.

"His life seems to be in danger, but he was rescued by a blue cool dude with 'tude. 'Hey little buddy, that was close! But you gotta hurry before things get worse!'

"He runs away from the danger with Sonic, who leads him to a secret base where other rebellions are taking shelter. 'Hey, I just noticed something' says Sonic. 'You've got two Tails! What's your name anyways?' The protagonist doesn't remember, so he goes with the name Tails. He also learns that this strange planet in Mobius.

Basically the whole plot twist is that the dude's father turns out to be Eggman who took vengeance on the Mobians after they killed his wife out of fear. Eggman's plan is to invade the human world after going crazy with an army on enslaved robots he's used the Mobians for.

Enjoy the movie everyone, I'm sure it's what all of you've wanted!
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>>183742805
>You're both autistic. Stop trying to get the last word in
Why do you care.

>>183742857
All the time? Especially when the moment of clarity sets in and I realize whatever I'm arguing about is a retarded waste of time. Which is a lot.
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>>183743059
I don't see the problem, and you're not even trying to explain it at this point.
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>>183742583
>>183742882
I'm not suicidal or anything. I just want to know more about myself. Learned quite a bit when a few boards got fused and shared fetishes on whatever /int/ was fused with

someone called me a hell denizen or a demon forced into the human world or whatever
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>>183742997
Amy = Amy
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>>183743154
Sony is making the movie. The same people responsible for Emoji shit, Hotel Transylvania, and Trolls. I am pessimistic all the way to the end, unless this movie ends up being fucking amazing by the sheer grace of god.
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>>183743154
Shit, didn't realize I posted this in the middle of Sparky debate. This is hilarious in retrospect now.
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>>183742559
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>>183743313
All Amys are beautiful!
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>>183743316
>Hotel Transylvania
wait I thought people liked this one
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>>183742945
Cool. I like hats too, I don't really wear them though, I find it a bit annoying to have something on my head.
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>>183743452
Some are more beautiful than others
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>>183743378
Whatever you say, Sparkster: Autist Knight Adventures.
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>>183743228
I have no idea what you are going on about anon. Sorry.

>>183743181
I suck at explaining, so let me try. Sparky is a 20 year old man who goes out of his way to 'copy traits from any fictional character that resonates with me'. On the surface, it's a bit harmless, you learn some lessons from works of fiction, fine. But given everything else we know about Sparky, I expect nothing but the absolute worst possible conclusion you can take from anything that is said.
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>>183742805
>Their relationship in Shattered was just great.
Their relationship is always great. They balance each other out nicely. I liked them in Sonic X too.
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>>183742637
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>>183743471
It was popular mostly because that vampire girl was the western waifu for a while. Without her the movie has no leg to stand on.
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>>183743551
>He's only 20
I feel bad for talking shit about him like five years ago.
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>>183743169
Weird.

>>183743228
You don't necessarily have to be suicidal to go to a psychiatrist, anon. That's a strange comment that someone gave you though. Casually look into some psych papers or websites.
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>>183743551
So you're just a retarded asshole trying to shit on some guy for no reason other than trying to look cool (even though you don't retain any of that since you're posting anonymously) because of the "hating on autists" meme? You certainly don't look any better.
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>>183742496
Hmmh, interesting insight. Thanks a bunch for sharing, anon. I've been learning to draw and trying to study character design as well, so this is intriguing stuff.
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>>183735158
introduced with generations, only recently played classics and I gotta say i like 2 and 3k more than anything in the modern series. I like games a shitton from both though.
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>>183742637
Canadians are weird.
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Reminder that tomorrow is /sthg/'s birthday!
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>>183743787
I don't want to shit on Sparky. I've been telling him to try getting help for a while now because outside of his fits of 'tisim, he seems like a dude I wouldn't mind being around.

But then he says something new and I just second guess myself.
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http://www.strawpoll.me/13525558

Don't make me feel like an old fuck guys
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>>183743913
Oh, that's right.

I've wasted almost three years here. Yay...
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Who the hell is Sparky. Do I even want to know?
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You are now only allowed to talk using quotes from Sonic media, including songs.
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>>183743913
Oh shit, I almost forgot, and I was the guy that was hyping it up!
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>>183743837
A good counterexample is TF2.
Even if you changed their clothes entirely and went balls crazy, like making the Scottsman a Knight, the Heavy a Space Marine, the Scout and Magical Princess, whatever, they still have a unified aesthetic. The shape of their hands, the long faces, the eyes, etc. They have different proportions, but stylistically they all inhabit the same world. Overwatch doesn't have that despite the modelers trying REALLY hard to get there because the base 2D designs are just so incredibly disparate and derivative.
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>leave to get a winner winner chicken dinner
>come back to 100+ posts of sparky shitposting
This stupid stoner needs to be ip range banned already.
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>>183743787
You just defeated your own argument without anyone having to respond to it, anon.
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>>183743913
And the mascots birthdays soon after.
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>>183744195
You wouldn't have had to point it out if that was the case.
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>>183744106
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>>183744410
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>>183744410
Is he that guy with the crayon looking Sonic fanart on twitter?
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>>183744079
30.
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>>183743541
That wasn't me.
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>>183744410
>Tails
>Timmy Turner
>electricity
Sparky has great taste.
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>>183744378
Wanted to let it sink into your head, but fine. Continue trying to grasp whatever low hanging straw you can get.
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>>183744410
what is this? image is too big to load
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>>183744378
>implying he had to
>implying it wasn't merely a humorous observation
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>>183743913
FUCK I'M GUNNA BE GONE ALL DAY WHAT DO I DO
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>>183744623
Autism only a couple of steps away from hitting Crash Retold levels.
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>>183744705
Wait until midnight and say happy birthday.
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>>183744410
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>>183744543
I'm not alone!
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>>183744654
There was no humour, and if there was an attempt at humour it failed pathetically.
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>>183744623
A bunch of random fictional characters drawn together in beginner quality colored pencil art style. It's not masterful work but as someone who lacks context about this Sparky person it doesn't look that bad either.
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>>183744410
>The person who made this posts in this General.
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>>183744946
>I didn't find it funny so it must not be funny RARRRRGHH

okay sweetie
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qsfi4SA1AVI
Gotta Ed Fast
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>>183744705
Phonepost. Alternatively, commission Bump art to relieve of your regret a bit.
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So Sonic Mania is going to have a Sonic CD style opening, right? But will it have a catchy ass THEME SONG
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>>183744984
I really need to work on my colored pencils skills. I mean, look at pic related. It's AWESOME, and compared to it, my coloring is horrendous.
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>>183745402
Hyper Potions are doing the theme most likely.
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>>183745490
everytime I hear their name I immediately think of the sonic porn game
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>>183744410
Why would you draw yourself more than once?
What kind of narcissism causes such a thing?
What kind of fucking asshole likes the techno-glowy Spidey suit fuck you
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Do we do anything for /sthg/'s birthday?
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>>183746414
Mostly quiz posts like "when did you first come here" and celebratory art deliveries.
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>>183746414
We could try to get along?
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>>183746525
Impossible!
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>>183746414
We nag drawfags for art.
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>>183746525
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>>183743913
I wonder if the person who posted the first ever thread is still around
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>>183746572
Hm? What?
Did I hear someone nagging me? I'm busy with secret things.
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>>183746525
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>New and leaked info on Mania looks good
>Forces shaping up to be something serviceable that might be heading into a direction no one expects story-wise
>Still no new Freedom Planet 2 info
Well 2/3 ain't bad.
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>>183746505
>when did you first come here
I came here for the first time a few days ago. I used to avoid you guys because I didn't want to waste my time with autistic Generations-fags who want to fuck comic characters.
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>>183746572
maybe. depends on how hot my room will be. don't want my pc dying from pixel art of all things
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>>183746948
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>>183746193
The purpose of the image is actually basically cover art for a personal story I'm planning out, about my character of Sparky along with myself. The purpose of the story being a dissection of the character, as well as a deep look inward to discover who I really am. Like, remember what I said earlier about copying traits from fictional characters? Apart of the story involves trying to see who the real, uh... "Sparky" is underneath all of the copied data and stuff.

At the very bottom of the image is myself, the grayed out robed figure, and a character named "Psion" who isn't me, he's actually supposed to represent my darkside like Shadow is to Sonic.

Above them are some of the characters that I have copied data from at some point in my life. I used the glowing tech-suit for Spidey because that's the most recent design in the comics. And also I think it looks cool.

And above them are the previous iterations of Sparky. The original, very first concept for Sparky was just some powerless rich 9 year old kid, who was basically me without being quiet and shy. The second iteration of Sparky was where the name "Sparky" and the electrical powers originated, and the "me without shyness" trait was taken up to 11 and he became crazy cartoony and random. The 3rd iteration of Sparky was 12-13, with the crazy randomness removed, and my shy and quiet nature actually added in. Then the 4th, and closer to recent, version of Sparky was a super stoic and silent 14 year old who never spoke, smiled, cried, or anything ever at all, and bottled up all of his emotions.

Something I like about the way I structured the image, Tails is at the very center, although near-everyone's attention is actually on Batman.
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>>183735158
I started with the GC/GBA era games when they were still kind of new (well, considering they were rereleases and I played them for a few years), later moved on to the newer games (after Unleashed), and then I played the classics.
My favourite games are the classics and the first Adventure.
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>>183747270
I like your drawings of Timmy and Shaggy? Did you ever play Fusionfall? They remind me of that.
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>>183746525
I would love to do that.
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>>183747270
That's unironically how Chris Chan uses his own characters.
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>>183737045

You inspired me to write my own letter in favor of the same writer and artists as well as hoping they continue the current story.

I don't know how much it will help if at all, but I did my civic duty thanks to you.
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>>183747449
I played FusionFall a few times, though not as often as I would have preferred. Now, I'm just waiting for the fanmade recreations, FusionFall Retro & Legacy, to be completed, and hope that my computer isn't a "potato" as some may say.

My personal artstyle is pretty much Kingdom Hearts + FusionFall with a bit of Sonic aesthetic.
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>>183747557
???

...What exactly do you mean by that?
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>>183747270
what the fuck even
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>>183747829
>Shroak taking up the left side of the page, drawing girls the same way from the same angle.
Memories.
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OTP
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>>183748306
>Implying Amy isn't Maria reincarnated into a hedgehog.
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>>183748391
>Implying Maria isn't living within Shadow's heart
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>>183747270
I'm surprised people can be this narcissistic and not realize it. Like shit bro, you're not going to learn a goddamn thing about yourself by doing this and nobody's gonna wanna read about it.

You aren't going to learn anything about yourself by analyzing the media you've defined yourself by consuming.
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>>183748306
There's not enough artwork of Hedgehog Maria!
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>>183748505

Penders' autism is spreading at a concerning rate. Is this part of his master plan?
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>>183748391
I don't really think Amy and Maria are all that similar. They're both kind-hearted but that's about it.
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>>183745490
>generic indie electronic music for the opening

fuck.
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>>183748491
I don't intend to publicize the story at all. The only ones that will read it are myself and my closest friends who work on this stuff with me.

I'm not narcissistic. I'm actually writing similar stories for two of my friends. I call them "Rebirths". Analyzing the media I consume isn't how I intend to analyze myself. I intend to do that by deep meditation, digging deep into my earliest memories, and self-psychoanalytical dissection.
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>>183747757
Chris had an evil twin in his comic, named Reldnahc Notsew Naitsirhc (Basically his name spelled backwards).
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>>183748997
That... doesn't exactly answer my question in the way I expected.
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>>183747270
>Above them are some of the characters that I have copied data from at some point in my life.
>copied data
Hmmm.
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>>183748505
Saw that tonight too. Lost my shit immediately.
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>>183749396
Metal Sonic was honestly on my mind as I typed that.
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>>183746525
Never
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>>183749128
You are producing the same shit as Sonichu. All these characters from other series' and these characters you've made up are basically leading to the same shit he does.

Sparky the Fox/Self-insert/Whatever the hell = Sonichu.
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>>183749938
Not him, but Chris just took himself and other (skewed perceptions of) real people and drew them in his comic. Sparky takes himself and other fictional people and intends to make something that's more of a roundabout analysis. Also, I'd rather look at something Sparky draws than anything Chris even sketches.
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>>183750492
self-analysis*
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How was Metal Sonic able to do shapeshifting shenanigans since the beginning of the game if it didn't copy Chaos' data until after Team Rose defeated the Egg Emperor?
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>>183723217
>tfw no updated Sonic fighting game, featuring an assload of characters with varying styles.
>tfw Cream would become top tier because of Cheese puppeteering.
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>>183748505
I will always be amazed by the hyper talented artists who play Splatoon. Like fuck, their ability to translate shit so seamlessly is amazing to me.

I haven't bought a switch yet, how do they draw their posts now that you don't have a proper WiiU style touch screen anymore?
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>>183750960
The Switch also has touchscreen I believe.
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>>183751131
It doesn't.
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If you could fuck your favorite sonic character, but kill every other one, would you?
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>>183750653
I just want a slightly simplified VF6 reskin with super moves.

Is that so much?
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>>183750653
>Puppeteers
>Top Tier
>Ever
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>>183750632
He drank a lot of Capri Sun.
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>>183751285
But my favorite Sonic character is a guy and I'm not gay.
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>>183751285
Yes.
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>>183751285
The one I want to fuck is far from my favorite.

>>183751336
Carl literally just won Evo.
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>>183751523
>You have to be top tier to win evo
Carl is high tier, not top tier.
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>>183751336
Eddie, nigger.
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>>183751637
I'm seeing him in S tier in a few tier lists.
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>>183751776
>Calling Eddie a puppet
You take that back you double nigger. He just drags a corpse around.
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How would Amy react to a kiss and confession from Sonic?
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>>183751259
It does
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>>183752410
She'd probably faint or think she was dreaming again since she's used to being rejected by him.
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Mania Panel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5K6hU14wero
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So is today really /sthg/'s birthday?
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>>183753551
Yes it is!
Happy birthday you faggots.
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Guys, hear me out: what is that "energy source" that Tails and Eggman detected is Little Planet?
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>>183754148
No, this is the "energy source."
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>>183740818
>If they're included I want them seriously retooled.
I had some ideas for how to do that. One of them being Antoine being turned into a Zelos-lie mercenary and Bunnie either being a brainwashed soldier of Eggman's or a bartender at the Mirage Saloon

Rotor is fine though. A gun loving tech guy who's a cynical git contrasts nicely with TAils' youthful optimism and naivete
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>>183754148

We all know who_ it really is.
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>>183754148
It's Infinite, thats how Classic Sonic ends up in forces with the drop-dash
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>>183754974
that would basically fucking ruin mania, thank god you're not in charge
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>>183755065
Dude I'm hoping it's not, I just know lizuka had some input in mania and don't doubt he'll fuck it somehow.
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>>183755065
do you honestly believe that wouldn't happen?
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>>183755175
iizuka needs to be removed from the franchise for it to ever have hope of improving
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Why would Mania tying into Forces piss you guys off?
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>>183755065
>One Sonic game connecting to another ruins it
Oh, quit being overdramatic. Besides, it's not even happening the Sonic from Mania & the Sonic from Forces are two different Sonics.
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Holy shit guys I REALLY want Forces to have a 2D animated anime intro, Fist Bump's pretty much obligating that to be commissioned
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>>183755310
Because Forces looks like ass and Mania doesn't. Keep the shitty taint out of a genuinely good game.
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>Oh no a little reference to a future Sonic game! RUINED FOREVER
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The energy source is Mirage Island from Sonic 4. A good chunk of returning zones are just mirages.
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>>183755431
But Forces looks fun
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>>183755065
>>183754974
That doesn't sound too bad to me actually. Not optimal, but still an interesting idea.
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>>183754974
I'd laugh if I saw Infinite in Mania's cutesy sprite style
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>>183755457
save the references for good games maybe, not the desperate ones
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>>183755485
That's the best joke I've heard in a while
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>>183755457
But anon, Mania is literally perfect & it tying into a Sonic game I might not like automatically ruins it!

>>183755539
I wouldn't mind seeing a Infinite sprite, tbqh
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>>183755562
haha yeah, a good game like Sonic Forces
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>>183755605
But its true.
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>>183755674
It looked like Sonic Generations to me though.
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>>183755803
And Generations was pretty fun and enjoyable as well
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I'm looking forward to the implosion that occurs in this general and other Sonic communities when Infinite inevitably shows up in Mania and throws Sonic into a wormhole
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>>183755803
>>183755880
It looks worse than Generations to me, and I actually liked Gens. Forces? Eh.
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How tall do you think the hedgehogs are? Wiki says ~3ft for most but I think that's -really- generous.
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>>183755892
I would be funny seeing the salt if that happens. Honestly, a lot of people have become obnoxious when it comes to both games. I don't get how people are acting like this is some sort of a competition between both games when Iizuka's team & Whitehead's team are hoping that both Mania & Forces are successes.
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>>183756097
around 3' 3"

That's an official measurement from the Sonic Channel profiles.
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>>183748613
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>>183755996
The only thing that really looks worse to me is probably Classic Sonic's stage and maybe Modern's speed, but then again by not having Modern move at super mach speeds all the time it allows the developers to not need to make so many long stretches of road with nothing on it, plus making it so the only thing that gives you boost is Wisp Capsules and Defeating enemies also destroys the "hold X to win" meme which, while I did love Generations, the game held the meme true in various parts when you could get boost from rings, robots, and going nuts with the joystick. Plus OC stages are looking to have their design focused on Color powers which already fixes a problem that Colors had (another game that I really liked) had where the game felt abruptly stopped between going fast and having to go into Color Power. With there being no boost focus at all in the OC stages it allows for better implementation of Wisps.

All in all I really hope they show off a better stage for Classic because so far that's really the only thing I truly dislike about Forces so far. NuGreen Hill was just WAAAAAY too hand holdy.
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>>183756147
if it were a competition then sonic team would have the confidence in their game's formula to release a game around modern gameplay with boost and not pile on a bunch of gimmicks to distract people from it.

since they're not only desperate enough to bring back classic sonic but also adding a worthless create-a-character gameplay mode, that's clearly not the case, and it's sort of sad.

that's not to say they can't improve what little boostan gameplay they do have, but i'm curious as to whether or not the designers have figured out any fun gimmicks for boost sequences besides "press a few buttons to do a trick chain and gain meter" or that horrid "long straightaway with 2-3 badniks periodically firing lasers down their respective columns until you can knock things into them" thing they are so obsessed with putting in every level.
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>>183756097
100 sm.
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>>183747270
Literally as bad as Linkara. Gas yourself.
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>>183756495
I'm sure ST would love to have a full Boost game. Problem is, Boost games are too expensive to make & they most likely can't afford to make an all-Boost game that isn't short.
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>>183755880
Ehhh
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>>183757106
Fill me in on why there are so many people who diss Generations now
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>>183757398
because the honeymoon period wore off a long time ago

why are there still so many people kissing its ass now?
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>>183757398
I've been dissing Generations ever since I completed it.
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>>183757398
Because of adventurecucks who think everything that doesn't have 6 or more playable characters is garbage
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>>183756147
Because both are trying to do Classic and returning stages, which makes it go from two games appealing to different groups like how SEGA has proudly paraded around the two games, into two games gunning for the same audience in different manners.

>>183756439
I like how boost is harder to earn like Colors, but it also brings back a problem with Colors, in that it just used 2D sections to cover for the lack of boosting instead of making an effort with 3D. Considering how much 2D we've seen with Modern, the two OC levels, and Classic having pure 2D, I'm not excited for another 2D Modern game. I am excited that the OC is just Sonic levels but with the Wispons instead of Boost, which seems like an actually good way to do multiple playstyles in that it's just one game with variation instead of cramming multiple games in one, so I think Sonic Team finally learned a lesson. Unfortunately, both OC levels had rows of pointless enemies that only serve to be mowed down, so I worry Sonic Team might learn the wrong lessons from Forces.

>>183756768
That's the real problem with Boost, which is a shame because levels where they go crazy like Empire City, Eggmanland, Sky Sanctuary, and Seaside Hill are great, but aren't the norm. But Boost games sell well enough, the critics approve, and fan reception tends to be kind towards it. So Sonic Team sticks to what they know. They one game they tried to do different, Lost World, was recieved poorly, so it was quickly dropped without regard to the problems the game had.

>>183757512
Flawed Classic aside, it was peak Boost. Sonic Team was finally getting something consistent and then Lost World was garbage that threw everything before it out the window, not just Forces, but everything.
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>>183752847
But what happens when she wakes up and realizes it's not a dream?
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>>183756768
This would be solved if they designed each level properly and included multiple characters. So you have Blaze who can jump a bit higher, hover, and can go through fire obstacles so she can access paths Sonic can't, but she's slower. Or you have Shadow who can do a snap Chaos Control to blink past an enemy or obstacle, but his boost runs out quicker or he's not invulnerable when boosting.
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>>183757648
>not just Forces, but everything.
I meant Generations. Forces wasn't before Lost World.
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>>183757605
Don't project, there are genuine reasons why Generations is being shit on.
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>>183757648
>peak boost
yeah, you're not too far off there. i do wish they'd stop resorting to side-scrolling sequences in modern stages, though. i was personally a bigger fan of white wisp boost gauge than ring-based so
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>>183757398
Classic wasn't as great as it could've been and I'm not a huge fan of boost, the huge empty hub and how bare the game felt.
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>>183757767
That I agree with & it is the perfect way to have all Boost games that aren't short as fuck. But, with the amount of people still beating the "shitty friends" drum & Iizuka not wanting to have additional characters unless they're different from Sonic, that likely won't happen anytime soon. Unless the DLC for Forces are Sonic's friends as playable characters, but I'm doubtful.
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>>183756714
That's new.
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>>183756147
>Honestly, a lot of people have become obnoxious when it comes to both games. I don't get how people are acting like this is some sort of a competition between both games when Iizuka's team & Whitehead's team are hoping that both Mania & Forces are successes.
This right here, it's so annoying to the point that I had offhand spite for Mania knowing my hype's shared with some uppity keyboard warriors thinking they're holier than thou cause they're excited about some shit they didn't put a single bit of work into themselves
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>>183757398
For one, it doesn't please any of the major 'factions' of the fanbase:

Classic Sonic feels awkward to play as. The concept of Classic Sonic being playable is great and almost everyone loved the idea, but he just doesn't play well. The physics are nothing like the actual classic games. The levels are also a little lackluster compared to the Modern Sonic ones.

Adventurefags are left in the dust. Say what you will about the Adventure series but Generations was supposed to be a celebration of the entire franchise. It's weird they would leave out this gameplay style especially since the Adventure era was 1998-2006 which is a pretty long time compared to both Classic and Boost gameplay. It's easy to see why fans of the Adventure style gameplay are upset.

Modern Sonic feels great to play as but most of the levels are just 2D rather than 3D. Those of us Boostfags who loved the daytime stages in Unleashed but were disappointed with Colors basically being a 2D game were kind of let down with Generations again. Modern Sonic's gameplay itself is fine it's just a little sad to have all these beautiful renditions of previous games but you're almost always only seeing them from one angle. The fully 3D sections are absolutely fantastic but there's not nearly enough of them.
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>>183757778
They got the level design down so right (boosters aside) but some people completely chastised those levels and even compared them to Sonic 4 just cause the physics weren't 1:1.

Rolling aside, Sonic controlled very satisfyingly, and I'm glad they at least focused on the depth of the levels instead of complacently taking the easy route of giving us straightforward Mario levels with loops and slopes like in Sonic 4. I legitimately found classic Sonic's levels on par with Sonic 3.
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>>183759516
>I legitimately found classic Sonic's levels on par with Sonic 3
so you'll eat just any shit they feed you, huh?
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>>183757605
I am an adventurefag who dislikes Generations and I think the SA/SA2-style Sonic gameplay would be enough, with SA Tails and Knuckles being afterthoughts after they managed to make Sonic properly.
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>>183757605
Why would a classicfag like Generations after the initial "wow they actually acknowledged the classic games!" reaction that is eventually meaningless to the game itself?
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I'm finally dropping Version 4.0 of the Dev Kit. It contains the following changes:
>Sonic's rolling is no longer influenced by holding forward on the control stick
>Sonic will now gradually come to a stop while rolling on flat terrain
>Sonic can no longer Spin Dash unless he is on flat terrain and moving slowly enough. These variables can be changed in the physics data if you want.
>New Speed Test stage (shown here) gives newcomers a large terrain object to tinker with
>New sound effects for Springs, Boost Pads and Rings

Happy birthday, /sthg/. I've only been here for a year and even then it's been sporadic attendance. It's been quite the ride since I stopped by to ask how to get into the comics that fateful day. I hope to stick with you guys from Forces and beyond.

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0Bw9wQojS0lxpRWk2NzM1ZE1Vb1U?usp=sharing

Be a doll and update the next OP with this link, would'ja? Thanks!
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>>183759936
Oh sweet. Thx mate
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>>183757398
Start of the classic pandering
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>>183760079
Wasn't Sonic 4 the start of Classic pandering?
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>>183759936
Nice general birthday present!
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>>183760250
>Sonic 4

Never heard of it
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>>183759936
It's a shame you couldn't get the other models to work after you spent all that time working on them. But this is just fine enough for a birthday present.
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>>183759936
God bless GHP
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>>183760348
Are you sure? It only came out 7 years ago.
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>>183760483
Ehh, I think you messed up while uploading the picture. It's just a blue box.
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Name one thing you hate about a Sonic game that you haven't heard anyone else say before:
For me, it's the rings in Sonic Adventure. They look like SHIT. I mean, these are the Rings: the golden hoops that serve as not only your life bar, but also reward you with lives, points and they guide you through the level. Can someone please tell me why, then, they decided to make them look like overcooked onion rings dipped in shitty toilet water?

Give Sonic Boom some credit, at least their rings looked nice. Jesus.
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Sonic 4 was a mistake
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>>183760701
Those Tails in your screenshot. I know it's just supposed to show that they're going fast, but it looks like they multiplied. Is Tails hiding something from us?
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>>183760701
Knuckles' gameplay in 3 & Knuckles is SHIT. He feels way heavier than Sonic and his gimped jump makes his playthroughs a chore to get through. Not to mention the delay when he lands from a glide. My only fear in Sonic Mania is that none of these flaws are addressed.
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>>183760701
I want to say they look especially bad in SADX because they just reused the same ring model from SA while updating most of the other models and textures. They really stand out. The lighting engine for SADX is also a lot different from SA. Certain things have awkward shadows or look darker in areas when they shouldn't. I think that's what going on with the rings.

I just assumed you were talking about SADX and not SA because of that image.
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Is it still possible to find physical copies of the two Mega Drive comics? About to go to a couple comic stores hoping to find them.
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AMY A CUTE
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>>183761146
the jump height is literally how you gate him to different routes genius
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>>183761623
Yeah, the lighting with SADX is a little weird with some parts, but and since some DC levels are in SADX via mods. Here's a screenshot for comparison
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dead general
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>>183763538
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>>183754974
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How do I translate a normal Anatomy drawing into Sonic style?

Also happy day of birthing.
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Post you're'r Eggmans.
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>>183763992
he a birthday boy
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>me waiting for mania
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>>183763992
ok
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>>183764173
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>>183743136
>Ed, Edd 'n Eddy/Sonic crossover fanfiction
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>>183763992
sure thing
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>>183764294
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PScSqdO-64
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>>183746525
He was probably looking for serious suggestions anon.
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>>183737045
Alright, I sent one in support of the creative team.
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>>183764446
holy shit
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>>183764862
ed edd n eddy z is dogshit but it's one of those so bad it's good things if you've got a friend or two to watch it with
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>>183764446
I thought people stopped doing this kind of thing after newgrounds stopped being popular.
Still this takes me back to the days of video game sprite animations that took themselves far too seriously.
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>>183763807
why did you put in the view count
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>>183765152
can you endure the full half hour?

one of the episodes is over a whole hour

and it's of three OCs vs the powerpuff girls
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>>183759516
>royally fuck up the gameplay
>"oh so just because it wasn't PERFECT"
Never change, modernbabbies.
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>>183765236
I think I'll have to put this aside and binge watch it later.
Sounds like a good time.
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I like all sonic gameplay styles!
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>>183765393
*sucks your dick cause im gay* lol nice cock fag
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>>183765310
Not him but this is fucking Sonic we're talking about. Baby steps are good enough.
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>>183764446
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>>183764446
what
WHAT
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>>183764446
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>>183765605
Then admit it's shit but progress, don't say it's already nearly there.
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>tfw you almost break through someone's irrational bullshit shell of hating sonic by showing them Matilda punching the tank shell.
>That concept is EXACTLY their taste
>They say it's not 'inspired' and deflect
>They admit they've never seen a little girl with pile bunker arms punching a tank shell out of the air, and that the concept itself is rad.
>Still act like it's not cool

Why are some people so fucking indoctrinated against this shit? What the fuck is wrong with some people?
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>>183764446
>30+ minutes
>EVERY EPISODE

NANDATTOOOOOOO
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>>183735158
Classic (Sonic 3 PC) & still Classic. Thankfully I don't remember the worse music.
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F
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Do you guys feel safer knowing the comics are with IDW now?
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>>183766260
>this gun kills immunity dog
>implying immunity dog isn't immune to any immunity disabling effects
also fuck you
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>>183766260
A bit. I mean, their PR is already better than Archie. Plus I've been reading their Transformers stuff, and honestly if the IDW stuff is on the level of MTMTE I'd gladly take it
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>>183766260
I'm glad that IDW is less likely to pull the same dumb nonsense Archie pulled & they apparently do a good job with some of their licenses.

also fuck you.
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>>183766260
Think you're just gonna get away with that?
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>>183766260
FUCKER
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>>183765998
You realize that there's levels between
Great and Shit. I can be aware of the flaws of something and not condemn the entire production as a pile of garbage.
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>>183766212
Who wants to dance on the grave?
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>>183766003
Who is Matilda?
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>>183766260
People of /sthg/! Please give me your energy!
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>>183766260
Yes
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If you were offered $999 million Dollars to fuck Illzuka and Aaron Webber in the Ass but in turn kill off the entire franchise of Sonic. Would you take it?
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>>183767390
I'd rather fuck them for free instead. $999 + ending the Sonic series is too high of worth to them when. Their lives are nothing but salt.
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>>183767390
I want to whisper into Aaron's ear while he tells me about his OC's backstory.
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>183767841
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>>183767390
Only $999? I'd rather not fuck them, and I want to see where Sonic goes from here on.
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>>183767841
Call in the reserves, we can still win this!
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>>183767841
This is the end for you.
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>>183767390
Am I allowed to use my nigh Billion dollars to just...reboot Sonic?
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>>183758163
>But, with the amount of people still beating the "shitty friends" drum

The only people still beating that drum are the people who just hate Sonic in general and maybe even think Sonic was never good in the first place. They would hate a Sonic game even if Sonic was the only playable character. There's no pleasing them.

Also LOOK at how people reacted when it was revealed that you could play as Tails and Knuckles in Sonic Mania. Clearly there's a demand for multiple playable characters.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98eoSTr8ips&t=1m11s
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>>183768136
>>183768008
>>183767970
>>183767841
>>183767170
>>183766556
>>183766260

What is this nonsense?
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>>183767841
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>>183766260
Imma spam your ass with Shadamy fool.
And yes I am glad the comics are continuing (fingers crossed) with IDW.

>>183766556
Black Magick Frog FTW!
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>>183768335
This monster has taken enough mothers, the horror stops here
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>>183767841
More Shadamy for the Shipping Gods!
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>>183767841
OH SHIT
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>>183766260
>>183767841
Now I'm just having fun with it.
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>>183757648
>but it also brings back a problem with Colors
Going for generic 2D platforming instead of boostshit is what made Colours the only not completely shit Sonic game in the last 10 years.
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>>183756768
Generations was extremely short and it wasn't all boost. Boost gameplay is also garbage and not actually expensive. Literally any shitty free to play mobile phone "game" does the same exact thing. The expensive part is making it look pretty, which tricks retards like you into wasting excessive amounts of money on that garbage.
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>>183768737
Either way, they still cost a lot of money to make, anon.

>>183768659
>is what made Colours the only not completely shit Sonic game in the last 10 years.
I highly disagree with that
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>>183767841
This is two ridiculous.
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>>183768335
what is your pic
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>>183769825
>This is happening, whether you want it to or not.
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>>183766260
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>>183767841
This is like the fourth time this week. Give this shit a fucking rest already.
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So how long until somebody does this with Infinite?
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Ok.

Just.

Calm the fuck down and post regular autism for once would you?
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>>183770472
The good posters are asleep anon. Wait until morning
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good night, sthg
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>>183770668
Sleep well.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBQRWDoT6Ck
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>>183767841
KYS, have some Shroak because you deserve it.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utakEuufwNY
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>>183771801
Anon, don't make me feel anything in the morning.
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It's it /sthg/'s birthday? I never remember the dates.
Happy birthday fags. Maybe next thread won't be as shit as this one.
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Happy birthday, /sthg! Here's some HD Tails for you.
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>>183766260
Literally kys
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>>183772241
DO IT YOU FUCK.
DO IT
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>>183769057
>>>/trash/10638203
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>>183770668
We are the nightmare, anon. It is us.
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>>183740374
You're being archived, Sparky. You okay with that?
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>>183755065
Are you implying Iizuka isn't just as bad, if not worse
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Fuck this slow thread
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>>183773790
Better than shitposting
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https://twitter.com/IanFlynnBKC/status/889745270279475200
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>>183773868
HAH
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>>183773868
Even Archie couldn't say no to such a cute pairing.
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>>183773868
I'd say he can't keep getting away with it but uh...
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>>183773868
This hurts me.
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>>183773868
DO NOT FIST ANDROID GIRLS SALLY

But nah, it was pretty nicely hinted at and it didn't turn the whole story into life and times of lesbian couples, which is pretty much how they did straight relationships in the reboot too.

It's a shame IDW won't take Ian on, they could probably do more with it.
>LEFT AGENDA
Lesbians being able to be happy or portrayed in a comic book isn't exactly sjw shit, it's like a a basic human right

>It's a basic human right to be portrayed in a sonic comic book
I realise how that came out, shut yo face.
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>>183773868
>A hedgehog
>An echidna
>A pedo skunk
>A human
>Two Swatbots
>A monkey
>A fucking AI
Is there any denying that Sally's a slut now?
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>>183773868
>>183774038
How will Shardfags ever recover?
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>>183773868
Ian's a pretty good liar considering all the posts he made in the past few years tip toeing around, but I suppose I'm not surprised.
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>>183774187
Preboot's a slut.
Reboot is faithful to a calculator.
Odd? Yes.
Slut? No.
Hotel? Trivago.
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>>183774264
Can't. GG.
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>>183766260
People should just start posting pony porn whenever somebody posts shit like that. It would be more likely to get deleted because it gets inevitably gets more attention.
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>>183756097
Eggman's 6', for reference
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>>183774295
Hey, Shard will still have preboot Nicole
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>>183760483
>Sonic 4 was 7 years ago
>Bought this shit for my Wii just to try it out
>Thought it was pretty inoffensive at first
>Episode II launches
>Sonic 4 is cancelled because of how bad it was

Should never have called this shit Sonic 4
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>>183774438
I've felt a strange urge to replay Episode 1 recently and disgust myself all over again.
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>>183728346
Can't believe no else did this

>>183732000
https://twitter.com/AlanTheWriter/status/742069965692407809

This is all the context we've been given, unfortunately.
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>>183774438
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>>183774423
I guess, assuming he wouldn't have sunk it sometime in his original pre-reboot plans.
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>>183774605
What exactly did he say to him?
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>>183774579
There's no reason to. It doesn't add anything, not even to Episode II. Shit is so stale and Generations does everything it wants to but better and now Mania was confirmed to be the real Sonic 4. It was a waste of time and money for all of us, fans and Sega

If there were more meat to Episode II it wouldn't have been so bad. But we got shit

>>183774635
I'd take Sonic 4 over more fuckin Pikachu
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>>183773868
Was it really that blatant?
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>>183728417
I like to think Penders made some terrible "joke" about Iizuka selling him the rights to Knuckles, while Iizuka politely backed the fuck out of there.
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>>183728417
>the 3D character model with blue lips 'n shit
Nasty
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>>183773868
>sorta confirmation of Sally/Nicole after the book ends and they likely won't be seen again
Yeah, I kinda expected that to happen. Seems like something that'll leave people happy, even if it didn't officially get recognized in book. I prefer them with others, so meh for me, but whatever

Didn't something similar happen when StC died with Amy and Tekno?
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>>183774784
One can't go without the other.

>>183773868
Actual proof that Sega doesn't care what happens to Sally or FFs.
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>>183775079
>Amy x Tekno
no way, that was a close girl-friendship and nothing more.

wasn't it?
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>>183775079
It's pretty gay of America (And Britain 15 years ago) that you can only pull this shit off when a comic dies.

If people didn't have such a stick up their ass about it, we wouldn't have to praise people needlessly for having a gay couple in and there wouldn't be so much backlash from religious ass folk about it.
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>>183775292
yeah, fuck people. What a bunch of bastards!
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>>183775341
I'd rather fuck a hedgehog
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>>183774784
>There's no reason to.
I know, but it's a kind of dreadful curiosity.
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>>183775292
You'd still have it though, because that "sooo in luuuv so byuuutiful" stuff doesn't come from homo or hetero stories, it comes from decades of Disney cheesiness that's cringy in fiction and even worse in real life
Add the awful "muh representation" fad of the 10s
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>>183775385
A 1 metre tall being with a head bigger than the rest of it's body, with hands larger than your face and a body that just doesn't match up.

Yeah, Rouge's big fat bat tats are wonderful, but like, it'd be such an anatomical fuck up having sex.
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>>183774887
I believe on a Bumblekast or something he said you could make a case for it based on what they had wrote for them post-reboot.
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>>183775491
I'll make it work.
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>>183775491
Nothing wrong with shortstacks
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1-5: Preorder the PC Mania LE now.
6-0: Wait until the price drops slightly again.
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>>183775491
stranger things in the animal kingdom
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>>183775292
You're asking people to not have a stick up their ass about the sexuality of other people? Fucking please.

I say this as somebody with experience: there will always be somebody, somewhere, screaming and whining about somebody else's sexual choices.
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>>183775292
I'm in the minority here but all kinds of romance makes me cringe. It's boring and unnecessary.
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>>183775996
THANK YOU. Thought I was alone.
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>>183775996
You're not. Romance is cringy stuff that's more wish fulfillment than anything else.

>>183775790
>screaming and whining about somebody else's sexual choices
>sexual choices

Remove the "sexual"
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>>183775605
it's too late to roll, but let's see if i made the right choice
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i am looking for a good picture or fanart for sonic drinking coffee/tea in a pose similar to this pic, any help is appreciated
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>>183775292
It wasn't that alone, there was other things like Sonally fans still being prominent (and angry!) and the fact that relationship discussion would often drown out actual story discussion. Now that the book is dead, it doesn't matter anymore unless IDW Sonic continues Archie Sonic stuff or keeps the characters, then Ian's gonna have some pressure to back it up.
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>>183776031
>>183776071
I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels this way. It seems like where ever I go with any series everyone is obsessed weak romance plots or shipping. It's so bizarre to me.
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Amy a Cute
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>>183776238
I will never understand shippers. Those people are insane.
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>>183776107
Good luck.
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>>183766260
Fuck you asshole
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>>183776316
Completely agree.
And with that someone make a birthday thread and remember to update the devkit link
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>>183776238
>>183776238
Character projection, people want the insert to be with their waifus
Lots of females who are the most fanatic shippers because I don't know probably brain chemistry
Characters aren't defined anymore by character + preferences but as flat exclusive concepts so every shipping gay or intermobian or whatever becomes an autistic philosophical death battle

Plus, it's hard to admit it, but at least in West, Sonic is part of the furry community so take all this shit and make it x100
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>>183776564
>Sonic is part of the furry community so take all this shit and make it x100
I never thought about it like that. No wonder it gets so bad when it comes to Sonic.
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>>183766260
wow. fuck you.
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