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Previous thread: >>183635719

Ogre did nothing wrong edition

NEWS
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>Tekken World Tour Announced
http://tk7.tekken.com/news/tekken-world-tour-announced
>New PC Patch Segregates Hackers and Other Fixes
http://steamcommunity.com/games/389730/announcements
>Tekken Bowl Trailer
https://youtu.be/-BaJENh1Irs
>Geese Howard DLC trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MK2TKFFtQA

BASIC INFORMATION
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>Notation
http://www.tekkenzaibatsu.com/legend.php
>Character Overviews:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yqgxbES6su4clpQou2hzlZN40rpPBtwmMRKWfexbj3g/preview
>Frame Data
http://rbnorway.org/t7-frame-data/
>Top 15 Moves per Character
https://drunkardshade.com/2017/05/27/tekken-7-top-15-moves-for-all-characters/
>T7 Character Information Compilation
https://docs.google.com/document/d/139rPKrNc0nYHm2SmEa9Wy6LE7ps_2C0akOD4BQrmN2Q

TUTORIAL VIDEOS FOR NEW PLAYERS
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>How to Approach 3D Fighting Games
https://youtu.be/p7Ar-RctqyU
>KBD
https://youtu.be/3whW6bh9Aks
>Buffering
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38iJWsjc_w8
>Oki/Tech Trap
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYqbvQljTw0
>Options at the wall
https://youtu.be/2SW7kCmA23o
>How to get off the ground
https://youtu.be/j-PDc20Jezg
https://youtu.be/11oZkTYI6Rs
>Throw Breaking
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4em9HzrwFI
>Wavedash
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMtFCy8LreM
>Wavedash/Backdash on Pad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fU5Ji23k4LU
>Getting Up
https://youtu.be/11oZkTYI6Rs
https://youtu.be/j-PDc20Jezg
>Combo video playlist for each character
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLDzNGonyeoUtBqYuqku0QqNwk2mcSlV_n
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KA
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posting best girl
prove me wrong
protip: you can't
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1ST FOR BEST BOI
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>Try to make Shen Woo
>End up looking like Galo Sengen
Fuck my life.
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at what rank does paul stop being the best character in the game?
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>i'm going to watch some pros and study up on how to play Feng against Hwoarang
>This happens

So i'm stuck with mashing Hwoarangs forever huh, what a mistake of a character
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>>183691731
kek at your life
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vG1zcUr37JY
Feet's channel.
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>>183691769
9th kyu.
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Once you hit the 100 hour mark of the EWGF vortex your neurons have subtly begun to change. By hour 200 you know nothing but EWGF.

Other players simply cannot comprehend the enlightenment that comes with mastering a Mishima. It is a state of pure zen that is akin to speaking with God. Playing another character is dirtying yourself and must be cleansed by performing a ritual in involving hundreds of CH DF2 PEWGF loops.
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>>183691769
>this many people in blue
Kinda makes me feel better being a shitter.
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>>183691868
he masturbates to these videos doesnt he....
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>>183691897
t. saltymanswe
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Can any of u PC guys go on leaderboards and find Lumen Reber and post his stats? He should be near the top so u shouldn't have to look long

He's my favorite player and I wanna see how his card looks ^__^
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>>183691941
I don't know whether these or GayGrabOrLeave is weirder.
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>>183691794
Dude got absolutely destroyed with counterhits outta stance. That isn't mashing. That Hworang knew what he wanted to do.
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@ stick users: how do you have your buttons configured? I'm trying to get used to using a stick but part of the difficulty is my input settings so some inspiration would help
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>>183692128
Go away Lumen.
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>>183691941
I know I do
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>>183692128
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This game makes me too mad, I really don't know how long I can keep this up.

Paul and Leo players are fucking subhumans
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>>183692301
1 2
3 4
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I always leave Quick Matches after 1 win. Does it really bug people that much?
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>you'll never live in korea and have negative ping

feels fucking bad eu is such a mess when it comes to this shit
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Put your hands on Asuka's game
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How hard is claudio to play? Green rank player here, I want to do more than just spam 2 moves.
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>>183691769
>tfw top 1.497%
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23rd for concussed waifus
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>>183692403
Thank you ;3
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>>183692563
why play quick matches if you don't want to do sets? If you don't want to do sets player rooms and ranked exists.
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>>183692418
i though the same but then i went to practice and learned to block and punish every bullshit they have
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>>183692418
Keep a reasonable distance between you and Paul so he doesn't demoman you
Duck if Leo is in KNK or feel lucky and low parry
Get good
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>>183692640
I do that every time but I dont have the reactions to punish or block that bullshit no matter how many times I practice it
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>>183692585
claudio is 1 move: the character
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>>183692301
I use a hitbox but might be helpful, 3rd and 4th buttons top row are 1+2 and 1+4, and 3rd and 4th buttons bottom row are 3+4 and 2+3 respectively. I don't care enough about grabs as I rarely use them. I make a lot less mistakes after adapting to these inputs.
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>>183692626
Because I literally just want to play a quick match. If you want to do long sets, that's the entire purpose of rooms.
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>>183692301

1 2 3
4
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>>183692685
>ducking KnK
I bet you like ws4, 1+2.
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>>183692741
rooms are worse for long sets than quick match. rooms you have to re load everything between matches. The only place that doesn't happen and you can rematch forever is quick match. Quick matches are for sets.
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>>183692741
You're such a cancer
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>>183691731
I have him slacks instead and gave him the angry face paint so it would remove his beard.
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>>183692712
>3rd and 4th buttons top row are 1+2 and 1+4, and 3rd and 4th buttons bottom row are 3+4 and 2+3

Man I also use a hitbox but had those button mapped to grabs and rage art at first
Never again, now I don't miss ANY single input, I feel like I've wasted 1 month worth muscle memory
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>>183691731
Wrong hair

Use the Leon one
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>>183692895
Dang, that looks a lot better!
Thanks for the tips!
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>>183692860
Then why are they called Quick Matches and not Long Sets?

Checkmate.
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>>183692778
>implying I duck every time
>implying you don't usually go for KNK+4 and fish for the CH
>implying you don't usually go for KNK+2 and fish for the CH
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Bless this game and all who play.
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>>183693118
Because it doesn't take very long to beat you in straight sets.
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>Face character
>Lose
>Go to practice mode to learn about their bullshit
>By the time I face another player with that character I have forgotten everything already

simply epic
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>>183692741
the general unspoken rule is that you atleast play
to best of 3, people get pretty peeved if they get one and done'd and know they can adapt and win
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>>183693246
Maybe you write notes and read it in between rounds/end of matches.
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>>183693121
I do knk into dab most of the time.
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damn asuka has some great porn
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>>183692906
Feeling it, I spent about 140 hours purely using 1234 but after adapting to these new inputs my combos are a lot more consistent. I think it's a must as well for playing Akuma. I can't imagine at this stage FAD cancelling by using 1+2 separately.
I fuck up way less with Yoshimitsu too.
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>>183693256
Why would people get mad, I don't get mad if someone wins against me and leaves, he probably thinks im trash which I am, I would have lost the second one aswell, can't blame him for wanting competition
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>>183693256
Nah, one and done or best of 3 seems to be entirely based on preference. The only one that seems fairly universally is don't salty 1-1, because almost no one likes ending on a tie.
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new player here and finding it super hard to execute shit online its just a matter of playing more real players right? trying to find a mix of 50/50 practise mode/real players
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>>183691868
why are there so many pseudo porn tekken videos
you have the king gay ryona guy, the bryan beating the shit out of females guy and now this footfag
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https://youtu.be/YbRvTogaMls

good shit
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What are Bryan's weaknesses?
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>>183693118
honestly, if you're one and done always, that just means you're gimmicky as fuck and afraid of getting exposed.
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>>183693246
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>>183693821
im glad infinite azure is getting piano covers n shit, its a pretty simple and chill track
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>Kazumi main
>do very well with her
>tfw most likely won't be in T8

Thinking too far ahead. Plus, I still get destroyed by Hwoarangs.
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Is there a discord?
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>>183694106
No this is a 4chan
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>>183693673
i dont know anyone who prefers one and done over 2/3
it's easy to lose a game to gimmicks/playstyles that are hard to adapt to in one match
i dont know how many times ive lost 3 rounds straight, win the rematch and then run into the same person again and beat them 2-0
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>>183694106
https://discord.gg/FSc2ZB4
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>>183693887
Nothing notable.

He is very well rounded. Good on block moves good on hit moves good ch stuff safe launchers good pressure good keepout good homing good moves that track to weak side good wall carry good wall damage good wall game good oki

I can't even list one aspect that Bryan is bad in
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>>183693887
None ;^) *snake edges you* Lots of pressure
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>>183694076
a lot can happen before 2023
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>>183693887
slow as fuck and no hopkick
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>>183694106
TZ has a discord. it's on their website.
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>>183694215
Now even more shitposting in the discord
I'm just gonna fuck off to the Tekken Zaibatsu's
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>>183694327
>muh secret club
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>>183693887
tracking and bad frames on a lot of stuff.
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Which of the waifu characters are high-tier?
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>>183691868
>not vr mode
what's the point, you can't see shit
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>>183694460
>Ling
Best in game.
>leo
top 4
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>>183694460
Kazumi
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>>183694348
Read my post again dingus
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>>183694460
Eliza is top tier in my heart.
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What goes through the mind of Hwoarang players?
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>>183694585
>>183694567
What about Nina and Lili?
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Top 5 essential DLC legacy characters

1. Jun
2. Lei
3. Julia
4. Mokujin
5. Kunimitsu
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Last. Ganryu
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>>183693973
Or it just means I want to fight you once then move on.

>>183694204
You have to win 3 rounds, so one and done is fine. Be different if it was just two rounds to win.

I do give rematches to anyone playing Jack or that was particularly fun to fight for some reason, but one and done is my default setting.
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>>183694724
You said waifu characters, not "wasted roster slots"

Kidding aside, lili is lower mid, nina is higher mid.
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>>183694705
"He keeps falling for my frame trap..."
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>>183694732
Replace Mokujin with Unknown.
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Why does DSP hate Alisa so much?
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>>183694813
I just want muh white girls.
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>>183694753
>one and done is default setting
gimmicky trashbaby confirmed.
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Is there a difference between Jins EWGF and the other Mishima moves when compared to the other Mishimas?

Oh and how do I change my reason, I set it to asia and I dont find any games at all. I played the same Indian every other day after like a 20 minute wait
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>>183694732
Nah, give me Wang and Roger
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>>183694724
Lili gets seriously blown up by sidesteps more than a lot of other characters. Maybe mid tier.
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>>183694929
>german
>not white.
I mean you may have a point.

>>183694732
top 1 spot is zafina obviously.
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>>183694732
>Lei
No, he should stay gone.

>Mokujin
Pointless as a character, and now one ever seriously played them.

>Kunimitsu
A little redundant, but I wouldn't mind her.
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>>183694890
lmao no
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Why is he so based?
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Is Alisa the highest IQ female character?
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>>183694953
Jin's doesn't do anything on normal hit and tailspins instead of launching if it's electric.
It also has less pushback so it's better for pressure iirc.
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>>183695158
No, that's Josie
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>>183695067
Wait I'm starting to see a trend among all the high-tier females in T7.

Yes, hold on... wait a moment...

I got it! They're all flat as a board!
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>>183694953
Yeah dude. Jins electric tailspins on hit while a real Mishima's launches

Another thing about Mishima's is ws44 and no hop kick
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>>183694076
She will probably be recycled in a Hachijo descendant in 8
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>>183694601
Read it fine you whiner
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>>183695239
flat is justice.
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>>183695072
This is your first tekken. Nobody gives a shit what you think about legacy characters. The fact you think kuni is like yoshi says it all
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>>183695072
>Mokujin
>Pointless as a character, and now one ever seriously played them.

I'd love to play mokujin and Lumen mained him in tag 2. He wouldn't even be hard to include in the game as he just switches moveset every round
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>>183695158

Nina or Xiao
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Seriously though. Lei is going to be dlc. Tell me I never played him all you want or whatever but he is a classic character and honestly it's like a tekken without hwo or law. Just ain't right.
My boy Jackie is comin
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>>183694732
Christie should be added too because I bet many would love to play a hot female capo and because she's almost 100% exact clone of Eddy, adding her would be very easy and cheap for Namco and not add to any difficulty to the game in the sense of having to learn with an actually new character.
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>>183695567
>tekken without law
sounds like a dream, desu.
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>>183694732
I never got why people are so crazy for Jun. Her fighting style isn't autistically remarkable like Lei, she even got recycled into a hotter version of her, even in the story she appeared only in a single canon title in which the only thing she did was getting fucked by Kazuya and die.
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>>183695664
I get the sense you're a shitter
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I might fap to asuka or maven to start my day of playing
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>>183695667
because tekken nerds are like comic nerds, nothing can ever advance or change or it's REEEEEE time.
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Which character is the purest Tekken character, the character that represents the essence of the game the most? Like Ryu with SF
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>tfw playing a low iq character but don't care because they're fun
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>>183694874
>try to punish
>get launched
>try to get distance with a backdash
>get hit with an absurdly well timed neutral crush
>have distance
>eat peacekeeper
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>>183695334
Big tits are life.
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>>183695807
Heihachi
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>>183695667
TTT2 Jun has more moves than Asuka, includng two stances that Asuka doesn't have. Asuka has little what Jun doesn't have. Also many wouldn't agree that Asuka is hotter.
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>>183695667
plus she got allahu akbar'd by ogre
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>>183695762
I just hate the screaming.

>>183695807
Jack or the mishimas
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>>183695807
jin
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>>183695567
Name one reason why anyone should bother playing Lei and his autistic moveset with a billion stances, when I could play literally anyone else with a fraction of the effort and actual results.
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>>183695915
Gee anon I dunno. Maybe for fun? You ever tried that?
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>>183695835
why Heihachi and not Kazuya?
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>>183695807
Kazuya. He's the protagonist in the first game and the core of the story in the rest.
He's also the one who survived the final fight.
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>>183695807
Kazuya is tekken in it's purest form

Playing kazuya mirrors are bliss
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>>183695807
Hei
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>>183695915
He had some absurdly powerful oki setups in TTT2.
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>>183695667
>>183695860
Not to mention Jun's moves look a lot more graceful than Asuka's.
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>>183696029
Speaking of oki, I've always found that to be a fascinating part of fighting games

Who in T7 would you say has the best oki game?
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>>183696098
ling
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>>183695952

Kazuya wasnt in T3
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>>183695915
I don't find it autistic. It's just memorizing moves. Just remember your key moves to transition and what not. Oh look I'm in crane stance, I can do option a,b or c. Now I'm in tiger. Repeat.

There are many easy characters for you to play. Why do we need another Katrina or Claudio?
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>Get beaten by blues and even dans
>get beaten by greens (my rank)
>Beat Yellows and even 1 orange

None of this makes sense
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>>183696258
Ranks dunt mutter lmaoooo
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Why is Hworang so fucking broken? A 70 hit combo off of his power crush? What the fuck?
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>>183695807
The answer should be obvious, but it's Kazuya. His moves, such as EWGF, represent the execution part of Tekken. Anyone can have a 90+% EWGF rate in practice mode, but it's different in a real match.

He can transform into a devil, which represents the variety in the roster. Humans, devils, bears, Yoshimitsu, kangaroos, dinosaurs, etc.

He has been main character in the story for the longest time.
Didn't turn into comic relief like Paul.

Maybe some would disagree with me, but besides Heihachi's hair, Kazuya's 10 dot glove is the most recognizable icon of Tekken.
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>>183696430
It's to make people feel like they can play fighting games, every game has a character like that

I think it's Bison or Balrog in SF, Leo in GG etc
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>>183695884
Nope.

https://twitter.com/Harada_TEKKEN/status/437151589430616065
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>>183696430
>block and retaliate
Amazing
Truly, he is impossible to deal with
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>>183696549
Can't understand what he's trying to say desu.
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>>183696653
How the fuck can you defend this?
Literally every other character gets 25 damage from their power crush and this guy gets like 70 damage and brings you to a wall. For what disadvantage?
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>>183695072
Shut up Mokujin is a fine character that;

a) Takes the most of skill to actually master and has the huge pay off to make it impossible to counterpick or adjust properly.
b) Is a fun tool to learn all the cheap shit of the roster without autistically going through every single one of them for a day or so.
c) A great tool to learn the basics and realise there are immense parallels among the characters down to the very input of most moves.
d) A fun way to play with your bad friends without stomping them every time.
e) Is not just a glorified random button since that doesn't change your char every round.

Now fuck off Lei can stay go though, but that's just personal preference
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>>183696710
Basically, the official status of Jun is that she's missing. The T3 opening movie of Ogre holding a head doesn't seem to be relevant to her status.
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>>183695635
>Asuka
>Unga
You should probably try playing the game before trying to talk shit.
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so how do you actually move in this game? I get KBD, it's apm intensive as fuck for what it does, which is annoying, but for forward movement what is there? Ok, wavedash for mishimas, what else?
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>>183696826
Why don't you pick hworang and spam his power crush and see how far that takes you?
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>>183696826
>he can't juggle out of his powercrush
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>>183697079
>ywn be this mad
why even live?
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>so hungry for attention he's linking other threads
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>>183696430
Lili gets a 64 dmg combo off hers too
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>>183696098
Steve has a couple nasty float traps which can force techrolls into very dangerous situations. He's also capable of punishing techrolls by mixing up with EXTDCK mixups. He can forgo damage on a couple of hard knockdowns to fish for oki traps too.

Bryan has a very strong oki game as well, counterhits can give way to backturned traps and at the wall he can pressure people into making bad moves by abusing the taunt. If they choose to play passive they risk eating soccer kicks all day and getting put back in the blender.
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>>183697329
Half of the roster does, but I agree Hwoarang is a faggot that god knows why isn't tiered higher because he has litterally the best of all worlds in almost every department.
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>>183679604
>>183688995
pretty much this.

Paul is an incredibly simple character but he still is a legacy Tekken character. Newer folks like Shaheen/Claudio/Kat are also very simple and more accessible to people who might not have a history of playing Tekken or other fighting games.
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>>183697079
>wah I'm mad because someone called my trash waifu "unga"

How much more autistic can you get?
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>>183696826
His power crush is retarded but you can often avoid it by ducking after having your move absorbed. It has like 30f startup
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>>183697528
what are the main differences between legacy characters and modern characters?
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>>183697694
modern characters are stringier and have more frills. They're also simplier.
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>>183697770
more frills?
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>>183697694
The legacy skills of old players don't apply to the same extent when playing against new characters as they do when playing against the old characters as they have no experience fighting those characters in older Tekken games.
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So far I've gotten Hwoarang, Bryan and King to Brawler Rank.
I don't know why but I just want to keep changing up my characters, does anyone have this too?
I'd prefer to stick with one or two characters, so you can really get in deep with them, learning their match ups and shit, instead of going through the roster, but I always end up jumping into pratice with a character of slight interest, and then eventually ranked.
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>>183697917
low launchers, crushier moves, they tend to be more flashy as well.
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>>183698001
>crushier
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>>183697950
Stop being unloyal and stay with the one you like the most.
If you really can't choose, listen to the SF 3rd Strike character select theme, it should help.
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>>183698095
>not having the crushiest moves
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>>183697950
I get the feeling you just crushed noobs with gimmicks and don't actually know how to play those characters
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>>183697694
if you've played other fighting games think of the difference between Ryu and someone like Juri.
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>>183698095
Not him but take Lili's cartwheel for example, it crushes almost anything with normal reach.

Then take Master Raven's (she still has Ravens hitboxes at large) cartwheel that will get you killed if the other guy isn't in his startup frames of pretty much anything.
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Who is the thinking mans character in this game?
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>>183697950
>It's a 1K win Grand Master trihard Law episode

You kids really need lives.
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Why is Jack-7 considered low tier?
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>>183698192
I'm not entirely sure what you'd define as "gimmicks"
When I practice a character, I go through most of their combos, punishers, launchers, wall carries and what have you, but if you specify "gimmicks" I can tell you wether or not I did.
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Ive done the 2000 matches and unlocked everything. What the fuck am i supposed to do with this 88m gold?

Money matches when?
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>>183698402
Heihachi
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>>183698402
Devil Jin
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>>183698184
crush posting only
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>>183698402
Alisa
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>>183698402
Paul
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>>183698402
Jack
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>>183698471
King - command grabs
Bryan - snake edge
Hwoarang - anything really
Not gimmicks really, but before brawler and even after nobody can deal with these things
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>>183698431
He's incredibly straightforward. He doesn't have a lot of things to surprise you, and what he wants to do is pretty obvious most of the time. He plays tekken well, but that's all he has.

Most teir-lists are based off of death matches, not tournaments. In a death match, you run out of jack, so to speak. His simplicity fits the bo3 format of most tournaments very well though.
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>>183698491
broken kuso character
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Why do people say that Alisa isn't a Tekken character?
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>>183698402
Bears. Forces you to value your tools while despising your hurtbox.
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decide to play tekken on PS4

Lili
Lili
Lili
Alisa
Xiaoyu
Alisa
Xiaoyu
Leo
Lili
Alisa

Does anyone even play a high T char
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>>183698168
>"Yeah, I been waitin' for this!"

>>183697950
The character you most consistently enjoy is the one you should main, or the character who you get the least upset when you lose with them. For example, if you have a really good time when you're on point with Hwo but feel like absolute dogshit when you're not, I wouldn't main that character. But if on the opposite end, you feel good when you're doing well with Bryan and just kinda whatever win-some-lose-some when you're getting fucked up, I would pick Bryan instead.
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A better top 5 essential legacy characters

1. Julia
2. Lei
3. Zafina
4. Ganryu
5. Anna/Wang

No clones or irrelevant/meme characters. Every single one is remarkable, well designed and quite unique.
I personally want iconic bitch Anna but she is still somewhat similar to Nina (not nearly a clone). Realistically it should be Wang in 5th place
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>>183698402
any of the manshimas.
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>>183698489
I said thinking not 'autistic 1000 hours in practise mode'
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>>183698684
toki when
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Is playing Yoshimitsu a lost cause? I feel like every matchup in the game is an uphill battle.
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>>183698640
Like a third of the roster has a working snake edge most of them even with exactly the same properties.
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>>183698780
>lei
>not a meme
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>>183698780
Harada doesn't like Wang if I remember rightly, and he's not very popular. So it's unlikely he'll ever come back outside of being a jiangshi. A real shame considering he was my main.
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>>183698640
>King
I actually mostly do his combos, primarily u/f+4, 4, dash d/f+4,3 df2,1 S! iSW, with the exception of Giant Swing I guess, but none of this chain grabs.
>Bryan
If you can't low parry or block his snake edge, it's honestly entirely your own fault, you should know it's coming, but even then his jet upper is way more reliable in my opinion, except near walls.
>Hwoarang
I'll give you that one.
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>>183698918
A good meme.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JG0Eya8KxxY
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>>183698402
Heihachi, Devil Jin, Yoshimitsu

some people might says steve and lee but i honestly don't know enough about them to say otherwise.
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>>183698918
If anything we have both Kuma and Panda as seperate characters and Eddy. Lei is legit
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>>183698738
Most of the higher tier characters are also a lot harder to play. Why play them when you can get similar results from easier-to-use, more-fun-to-play characters?
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>>183698743
That makes a lot of sense, thanks!
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>>183698714

because

>>183698001
>>183698384
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>>183698738
>expecting people not to play this waifuest of characters
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>>183698780
>No clones
There's little cost or cons to adding a clone character so I'd say they could easily be worth it as long as there's at least some demand for them. See >>183695639
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>>183699114
>Drag, Leo
>hard to play.
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>>183699025
his sweep looks really fast
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>>183699141
Party on, Contest Winner.
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>>183699398
*dodged*
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>>183698780
Fellow Anna dude
I want her back too, yes she shares some similar shit with Nina but if they add more good unique strings to her - she will be 100% fine. ffs we got 2 bears in different slots
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>>183699068
>Devil Jin
How so. He seems to me like the easy brute force mishima
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>>183699470
pretty much desu
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>>183699025
does anyone else miss the random shit wandering around the tekken stages? t7 stages feel kinda sterile.
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>>183698780
Nobody played those
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>>183699560
DJ is the easiest mishima, but he's still a mishima.
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>>183692587
>tfw Top 0.433%
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>>183699649

if you play kuma, the fish is always hopping around...
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>>183699560
I mean, in so far as he is the easiest Mishima to play, yes. But Devil Jin is also a character who is incredibly well rounded and is kind of a master of all trades, jack of none character.

When I think of a thinking man's character, I think of a character who has an incredibly wide array of options available to them to deal with literally any situation. Devil Jin seems like he can absolutely do that, only you have to really dedicate the time to practice him.
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>Leo and Paul players think they're actually allowed to have an opinion or discuss tech with other players
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>>183699859
they probably think they're people too
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>>183699795
>tfw top 0.060%
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>>183698471
Gimmick characters play with their own set of rules and you're pretty much fucked if you don't know them
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Holy shit Mishima's are suffering

Why am I doing this to myself
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>>183699859
dumb frogposter
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>>183700190
It's okay, 50/50's are a skill of some sorts
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>>183698780
I just want Anna and Wang back dammit
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>>183699779
>I said tso
Very funny
Literally no one played bears yet they are in
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>Eliza DLC, with full character model, costumes,intros,character story, etc.
>1 MB
>patch 1.04
>literally just put black like it was in 1.02
>750 MB

Explain this
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>>183700590
they reworked drag's and lars' costume so they don't go full black anymore
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>>183700590
Hidden shit for upcoming dlcs and Tekken bowl
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>>183699025
Damn Lei looks cool. I wish they would at least transfer some of his moves to someone.
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>>183700590
eliza was already in the game from launch
the dlc is probably just to unlock her and doesnt actually download anything
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>>183698780
How is any of these not irrelevant as fuck
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>>183698430
I've always pictured the bazillion win blue rank Laws as dads that like Bruce Lee and mashed T3 back in the day.
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Is it just me or is it impossible to get the right colors with the customizer?

It seems like the only hair colors are shiny, white, and anime. Trying for a dark brown or black leads to nothing.
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>>183700835
Have you tried using the color diagram? The normal chart is pretty ass.
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>>183698780
How many times did Anna and Kaz go at it do you think
>>
I cannot do the stupid fucking HCF, b movement consistently ever, I always just end up doing a regular HCF plus the other input but it ignores the d/f. either that or I end up crouching
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>>183700771
>It's my first Tekken so anyone outside of current roster is irrelevant
We are going to have legacy characters like it or not.
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>>183700918
I have, doesn't seem to get any better. Maybe I'm just overlooking some options or something.
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going from nina to kazumi is pure agony, shes slow as fuck, and i cant even do the bf 214 or something like that. fuck i love kazumi so much
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>>183700992
How is any of those not irrelevant but the ones not listed somehow are?
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When is Tekken bowl anyway?
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>>183700992
Based on what? Are you another of those who misremember/misquote that Harada comment about legacy characters?
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>>183701187
Nice reading comprehension, my friend.
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>>183700940
Anna probably tried constantly to seduce him in vain only to assume he was gay for Heihachi
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>>183700461
yeah right, because not every single character has those, right?
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>>183701289
Harada included Season Pass to prolong game's life. Only 1 guest character left and "With Season Pass, we can guarantee one year of Additional Development Cost and development Team"
So what do you think they are going to do? More Tekken Bowls? Kek, this is going to be some fan-service via adding legacy characters.
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>>183701561
every single character has unreactable low launchers for 30%+ health?
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Is the sumo guy around? I'm catching up on the nagoya basho. So many yokozunas are losing to maegashiras. What was happening?
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>>183701806
Leo has low launchers!?
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>>183701806
Demoman only knocks you down at close range, spacing is important against Paul.
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>>183701987
leo has literally everything
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>>183702070
What's her low launcher?
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>>183700461
i'm newer to fighting games and a little confused on what makes a 50/50 a 50/50. can't every character knock someone down and then make them guess between crouch or stand blocking? Is Paul's just particularly noteworthy because of how much damage it puts out and for the fact that both deathfist and demo lead into another knockdown, repeating the process?
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redpill me on hopkick man
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>>183702160
db4, 1 I think
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>>183695807
Jin or Heihachi
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>>183702257
that's a hellsweep. Different thing.
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>>183702257
That's a natural on hit string that does alot but that's now launcher dude.
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>>183702307
>>183702378
it's way better because it has relevancy in high level play unlike most slow ass low launchers
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>>183702219
Paul's 50/50 is notable because of the damage and ease of use.
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>>183701840
This is all nonsense to me
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>>183702440
not saying having a hellsweep isn't a good thing, but hellsweeps aren't low launchers (unless you're devil jin)
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>>183702440
doesn't it only naturally connect the 1 on clean hit though?
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>>183701840
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how do I land a combo after doing d/f 1,1 with Jack? I can never get out of that animation quick enough to do a dash in time to do the fallow up
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>>183702219
50/50s aren't reactable so you have to guess

like dragunov can make you guess between b+1+2 and d+2 but the reward for getting a d+2 is minimal, meanwhile leo or paul get 30%+ damage plus another knockdown into the same shit if you guess wrong
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>>183702564
It's the equivalent of Koreans drowning in the pools of american tournaments.
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>>183702593
it's a clean hit from any distance for some reason but the sweep wont knock down unless you commit the the 1. At least that's what i've gathered from training mode.
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>Liked Leo in Tekken 6
>Used Leo again in Tekken 7, due to having her Tekken 6 clothes as an alternative option (fuck her T7 clothes and her stupid long chains)
>Get called a tier fag

Just like in DS3, I was called a metafag for maining the Hollowslayer Greatsword on my first playthrough. I can't escape accidentally being a metafag.
Save me, please.
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>>183691571
Reminder that Tekken 6 and everything about it was a mistake, those shit characters will haunt us forever.
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ITS JUST BENEATH THE SKIN
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>>183702739
>he doesn't like Leo's big brass balls
Look at him and laugh children! look at him and laugh!
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>>183702865
The chain's too long. Would like it if it wasn't like a millimetre from scraping the floor.
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>King vs King match
>we're both nearly KO'd
>we both start doing dives, tackles, ankle attacks, and high air moves in unison, flying over each other every time
Why do these stupid awesome moments only ever happen with other King's?
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>>183703038
Because you're a shitty meme lover
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>>183702995
I wish you could keep the chains as a character specific accessory. It's hard to play dressup with Leo :(
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>>183702219
50/50s can be as simple as 1 d4 1 df1
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Where are my big tiddy women in top tier?
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How do fellow controller users hold their thumb on the D-pad? If I cover it with my thumb it feels like I can do backdashes easier but movement in general feels really rusty, and I often miss inputs like d/b, while when I use my thumb more loosely, I can't backdash for shit and my thumb starts to hurt really fast.
Any tips? Should I just keep on practicing with my whole thumb or switch back to playing it loose?
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>>183703038
king vs king is fighting kino
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>>183702739
>Hollowslayer Greatsword

there are weapons that aren't great club?
>>
>go against eddy niggers
>can still unga people to death at the wall
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>>183703538
I somehow always sucked at dodging the Great Club's 2HR2 attack. Always underestimated the sheer range of the attack, due to the little dash.
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/ourswede/ is back on boys!
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>>183703730
It's my favorite heavy weapon because of that move. The whole thing has crazy hitboxes but that one is so big and so fast.

also it looks real cool
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>>183703872
He ran into a Lili the other day and boy he whined so much
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>>183703872
bit of a downgrade from jae but ok
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Hey guys the main man here
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>>183703872
He really likes Highway to the Danger Zone.

It's on everytime I watch him.
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>>183704235
Who was none other than Aisu Biimu (Ice Beam, Ice Lili) who is arguably the best Lili in Europe....
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>>183704429
TMM always whines when he goes against Lili.
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how long will it take me to go from a complete beginner at tekken (play 2d games) to orange if I stick with it
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>>183704591
well she's a gimmick character
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>>183704259
how did jae's gigas do at evo?
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>>183704902
TMM, please
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Is there an input I can use to make While Crouching attacks come out faster like the While Standing shortcuts? or is holding down the only option?
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>>183704996
shut the fuck up feet
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>>183704902
Only gimmicky thing she has is her cartwheel and it's linear as fuck
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>>183705043
no
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>>183705131
whutaboutmatterhorn?
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>Play Bryan
>People dodge me
>Play Lili
>People dodge me
>Play Paul
>People dodge me
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>>183705241
You really shouldn't be surprised about the Paul part. It's like saying you play King and people are dodging you.
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>>183705131
She always does d1 after so just hopkick

She stops then just side step
>>183705187
Just launch it on block
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>>183705241
>play Xiaoyu for an hour
>over an hour I get around 4-5 games total
>at least 20 dodges
>>
>go to locals
>having fun and people know what they're doing
>evolving and getting better with my Heihachi
>play casuals
>matches consistently stay at 4-5 bars
>other than the occasional shitters, it's usually filled with new players who are learning the game (so you teach them in game like our lord and saviour did) or you good players so you get a good match
>go to ranked
>all matches are always perma 3 bars, drops too 2 when your opponent is losing
>gimmick characters everywhere (bears, Alisa, Meme Squid)
>people play like they're headless chickens
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>>183705187
Stop pressing buttons for once
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>>183705338
who blocks?
>>
How mad do you think Aris gets when he's not streaming and he's playing Tekken
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>>183705534
Haha who gives a shit
>>
Do people generally like Dragunov or are they tier whoring? Where's the fun in learning a character just for easy wins.
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>>183705534
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbsbcKfqtSQ
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>>183705569
People enjoy winning, anon. Whats not to get?
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>>183705534
He's probably too busy counting all the money donated from retard eceleb slurpers
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>>183705534
I doubt he gets mad any more like this >>183705616
Dude's flooded with donation money.
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>>183705534
I bet Aris dodges Bears and Paul offstream
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>>183705660
Just think it would feel empty
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>>183705352
who the hell is meme squid
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>>183705760
>Paul
No one that's not a 17er dodges him.
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>>183705854
TMM dodges them

and then plays him
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>>183705569
Dragunov is a pretty fun character tho
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>>183705845
Yoshimitsu.
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>>183705569

I've always liked Drag ever since he was introduced in DR, even though I don't really play him. His fighting style is cool as fuck
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>>183705790
eh, most people don't care about that. They just like winning, thats all.

like me.
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>>183705569
He's fun to play and sambo is cool as shit.
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>>183699967
>twf bottom 98%
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>>183705569
He's not my bag, but I can see why people like him.

I switched to Leo because I wanted an easy, good character to learn the game with
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i haven't seen a claudio in ages i've seen more bears than claudio

he's not garbage tier is he?
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how do I do Heihachi's ch ff3 sweep?
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>>183704886
Depends on your character
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>>183706282
I saw lots of them around fighter
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>Be Russian
>play Hwoerang

Every fucking time

you'd think they would use Dragunov, noooooo.
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>>183706291

Timing is quite strict, I suggest doing bf2,3, CD4, n, 4, qcf2 instead.
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Dragunov hei and Steve are well animated for sure
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>>183706686
Everyone but asuka is
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Is Steve's RA completely safe? Shit pushes me miles away
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why does Eddy squeak when you hit him
>>
>>183706975
It's a high, duck it.
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>>183706975
Duck it.
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>>183706975
Pretty sure it is, haven't checked properly. but it's high so you can duck it.
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>>183706405
He got way too popular among Russians in Tekken 3
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Why does no one play bob online? He's simple and great.
>>
>>183707037
>>183707041
I use facing Steve as Leo.
Run towards him, trick him into thinking I'm going to do a running jump kick. Immediately go into BOK stance when I'm close, he uses his RA, then I BOK2 his ass. Glorious feeling.
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>>183707167
I do
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>>183707167
he is fat
>>
>it's impossible to get out of blue and green because of retards doing whatever the fuck they want and things not making sense
>finally get out of green today
>good players everywhere with the occasional gimmick shitter
is this the promised land /tekgen/?
>>
>>183707214
>as leo
stop reading. you're worthless kid. Don't ever think you earn wins.
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>>183707167

Because he isn't T6 Bob.
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>>183707214
I love facing Steve as Leo.*
You can tell I can't proofread for shit, my apologies.

>>183707319
Whatever you say, Anon.
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>>183707068
>>183706975
Just checked, it's -3 on block with a 13 frame startup.
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>>183707308
>it's impossible to get out of blue and green
blue is literally kindergarten
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>>183707167
I get playing Bob a little bit as a joke but I find it really hard to imagine that someone who's serious about the game would main him. You choose to spend hours training how to do combos with this fattie? You choose him as your Tekken avatar?
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>>183707498
doesn't really matter since I think you'll always be able to duck it unless he caught you pressing something
>>
Anyone here do video reviews?
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>>183707547
unlike you I don't play at a kindergarten online retard level
>>
I have never seen anyone use the magic mirror
>>
>>183707214
I enjoy doing mg4 during high RA. It may be unsafe if I do it where I'll get hit during moon glide, but if I space it correctly, I go under and slide for the finish.
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>>183707627
you're not making any sense
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>>183707604
Yeah that's right. Same thing with Jin's RA
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>>183707604
Or if he punishes you at -13 or more.
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>>183707568
personally i think he looks cool.
>>
I bought a korean stick (crown 303) a couple months ago and it feels great
but diagnal inputs show as d,df instead of just df
is it just the crown stick being trash? I heard it wasn't the best stick to get
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>>183707335
He's still Bob.
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>>183707631

I use it because I get mad sometimes when I'm losing and people that kick me when the match is over sends me over the edge.
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>>183708037
such a stupid fucking character
EVERY character introduced in T6 is fucking stupid
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>>183708037

>Can't abuse d1 anymore.

No thanks
>>
Post your favorite customzation loadouts!
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>>183708037
I have no idea how you're supposed to recognize his animations when he's spinning and rolling around in every single one of them.
>>
>>183707842
How? He's a fat slob
>>
>>183708180

You look like you've seen a ghost.
>>
>>183705760
>>183705854
Do they legit dodge him?

dodging Paul is just sad. i can even understand dodging King A LITTLE BIT because throw breaks are a pain in the ass but if you dodge Paul you're literally scared gay baby.
>>
>>183708407
He rolls and flips around like a huge ball of fun.
>>
>>183708341
Same as everyone else. Lose to some shit, go into practice mode and learn what it was and how to beat it.
>>
>>183708557
t. Paul

No enjoys losing or winning due to guessing right
>>
>>183708407
not this guy >>183707842
but weird characters are cool, and Bob is really weird. He looks like a giant fat cheeseburger monster and he is, but he has crazy almost capo but not quite crazy ass looking movements.

Also lore wise Bob is just a dude who figured out he had to get big to win big. didn't give a shit about his fans or former good looks or anything but just winning big. Respect.
>>
>>183708678
I don't duck against Paul unless I'm at the wall or they're being very obvious. You can make demoman not trip by just backdashing.
>>
>>183708897
>You can make demoman not trip by just backdashing.
not on wakeup
>>
>>183709356
Sure, but you still have a lot of options.
>>
>>183708594
Lmao at not having a friend to discuss moves with
>>
>>183709356
Tons of characters have busted shit. Once you get your movement down, Paul stops being this big scary gatekeeper and actually seems super linear. He still has his damage so he's scary (and certainly not low or mid tier) but he's on a far more even playing field.

gief seems busted when you first run into him as well but the wheat is cut from the chaff on that real quick. that's also why there isn't a ton of paul as you climb higher because at a certain point you just have to start playing solid ass Tekken as paul and not just doing deathfist demoman.

That being said, playing solid ass tekken with Paul also results in monstrous damage for very few hits so, it's not like he's Jack or something.
>>
>>183709572
Probably best to do both things.
>>
Do Devil Jin and Master Raven have any cheap shit? I'm sick of getting dodged all the time
>>
>>183709959
DJ has EWGF, Hellsweep, cduf+3, uf+4, b4, and lazers. He's got a ton of cheap shit and gets dodged regularly. No idea on raven.
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>>183691571
>tfw deer in headlights with unblockables
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>>183709959
Devil Jin is the only character I can see the justification in dodging.
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>>183710405
he is very very good at tekken
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>>183705534
he doesn't play tekken off stream. he barely goes to tournaments anymore. full hollywood.
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>>183710339
same

ironically the only one I can dodge consistently is king's super fast lariat which is one of the better ones
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Is LC unga?
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>>183709959
"Cheap shit" is just shit your opponents haven't figured out how to beat. Scrubs will call the worst character in the game cheap because it's easier to whine about characters than it is to get good. Don't worry about them. They're all stuck in silver/blue ranks anyway.
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>>183710339
Out of curiosity, how many unblockables (if any) track? Is sidestepping always a valid escape?
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>>183706849
Nina is also pretty bad
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>>183710835
she's capo. it's arguably worse.
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>>183710926
generally if you can't duck it, you can sidestep it always
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>>183710939
what the fuck does capo mean, I'm stupid
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>>183711071
Capoeira
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I think Im just gonna learn Yoshimitsu
he seems to have every tool in the game and I'll never have to deal with turtlers again
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>>183711071
she dance fights so the movements look tricky, i.e. eddy

also chloe is less braindead than Eddy because she has less shit to work with so while people might hate and perpetrate if you play chloe you're actually earning a more honest win than if you're playing eddy
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>>183710850
>Scrubs will call the worst character in the game cheap because it's easier to whine about characters than it is to get good.
See >>183710939
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>>183710471
listen up KID. devil jin is the hardest to execute and hardest to play character in this game. if you lost to devil jin it means he had to calculate his every move and land all his just frame electric to win the match. meanwhile you facerolling your running 2's and deathfists like the low iq unga bunga creature you are. it's only natural that you'd lose to a character that actually takes skill to play.
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>>183710339
It happens to the best of us.
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>>183710405
What's hhe got that the other Mishimas don't?
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>>183711452
can cans, actually good pokes, stupidly good hellsweep
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Anyone else rage like crazy? No other game made me as mad as playing T7.
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>>183711538
This game is literally my relaxation tool.
Alternating between practice mode and ranked is super comfy and as a bonus I also learn a lot each time I have a session.

Just breathe, man.
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So they patched the black colors back to normal? Or they're going to soon?
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>>183711452

His hellsweep gives a small juggle, making it really deadly in walled stages. u4 being the best panic move in the game, has Asuka's d3+4, but it doesn't need to CH to launch (Although it's mid, mid and is unsafe on block)
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>>183711452
Mainly great pokes and better tracking.
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>>183711410
why did that unblockable take 50% jesus
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>>183711301
is this a copypasta or did you come up with this off the dome?
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>>183711780
Speed and Weight!
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>>183711780
T6 rage + TT2 health + CH on the wakeup low
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>>183711780
Tag team has less health each, and it's Bob.
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>>183711452
extremely easy instant running 3 out of crouch dash (CD~uf+3), an orbital (CD 3), basically an actual hopkick in terms of speed of low crush (uf+4), laser scraper, launching hellsweep, and basically drag d+2 (db+2). arguably the best wall carry among them, but kazuya might be better when you do optimal stuff because his wall ender can start from really far (b+2,4, df+1,4)
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>>183711780
Unblockables were serious shit in older Tekken games. They actually had to nerf them in TTT2 because Hwoarang could do an unblockable trap that resulted in death regardless of which way you picked.
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>>183711868
Pasta
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>>183711719
>73 without CH
what the fuck Devil Jin
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Yoshimitsu just doesn't feel fair or fun to fight

Everything is guessing and him just standing there taunting you with a million meme moves
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>>183712076
If it makes you feel better, the person playing him is 90% of the time guessing just as hard as you are.
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>>183712017
that's an unseeable high crushing low, keep in mind
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>>183711937

>extremely easy instant running 3 out of crouch dash (CD~uf+3)

I heard about this but every time I try it I do his normal uf3 instead. What am I doing wrong.
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>>183711959
You got any others? Super edgy copypasta that is clearly made by children on the internet who are pretending to not be kids and say they're 16 when you call them out is the funniest shit
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>>183712017
devil jin in a wall stage is actually a nightmare. even the easy combo would've done like 65 or so.
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>>183712149
gotta hold it, then you too can have a high crushing then low crushing drag iwr2
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>>183711868
well I was the one who made it yesterday, and now I decided to pasta it (technically I had to rewrite it since I never saved it last night)
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>>183711410
how do you actually deal with them if they're well timed?
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>>183712145
so if you're just a real good Tekken boy you can get paul CH tier damage off of unseeable high crushing lows?
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When should I use Rage Arts vs Drives?
Also, how much time does the opponent have to input things when you activate the Art's mini-cutscene?
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>>183712286
on wakeup? side roll
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>>183712236

Thanks man
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>>183712217
if devil jin is so good why don't we see him more in tournaments? are people still playing it safe-ish with their old mains from Tag 2 or is Devil Jin like just that fucking hard to where the game would have to be out for a super long and go unpatched and then law of large numbers everyone is fox i mean Devil Jin?
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>>183712309
he's top 3 for a reason
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>>183712496
He's hard and fucking ugly
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>>183707631
I think it only works on your side when you have it enabled. The opponent can still beat your ass on his side.
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>>183712540
it's DJ, Xiaoyu and Drag correct?
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>>183712496
Teir lists in tekken are set up for death matches not tournaments. DJ is incredible in long sets. However, he's a mishima, and if you're not on point, a missed electric or two can cost you the game. It's the reason why JDCR, despite having an incredible Heihachi, plays Drag in tournament.
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>>183712639

And Leo
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>>183712348
Always use drive.

>>183712639
Drag and DJ are there 100%, third spot is arguable.
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>>183712645
yeah i was talking like a tournament tier list. are DJ, Xiao and Drag still up there?

along with Leo?>>183712693
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>>183712496
i think mishimas are just awful tournament characters. 2/3 sets plus constant waiting between matches plus the tournament going on all day long? not a good look.
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>>183712645
is it fair to say that electrics need to go

wavedashing can stay because its cool and hard to do very fast

but like you say a missed electrics mean you lost the game sometimes and thats just something you cant afford to gamble on
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>>183712145
Hellsweep doesn't high crush
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>>183712768

I heard Ling is stronger than both of them
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>>183712768
Always? Why's that?
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>>183712768
ling's best in game. The toss up is between drag and leo.
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>Take an 11 day break
>Can't beat anyone in quick player matches

7 matches, all failures. Well, I beat an UNGA Vanguard Asuka once, but that's it.
I regret taking such a long break now, fuck.
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>>183712768
kinda like a scramble of Bryan, Xiao, Leo?
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Xiaoyu
Leo
Drag
Devil Jin
And Bryan if his soccer kick still launched on ch.
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>>183712843
It's not a huge problem when you're playing a 20 game set. It's only an issue in Bo3s. I think removing electrics would take away some of tekken's charm.
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>>183713050
maybe make it so electrics aren't good moves but rather they are style moves

so like you don't need to use them to win

would that solve the issue of mishimas struggling in tournament setting
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>>183712919
More damge.
Even for whiff punishing you're better off using a regular launcher and comboing into rage drive rather than doing raw RA.
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>>183713153
Lame, but understandable. Thanks.
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why are there so many jacks in tournaments if hes a lower tier character
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>>183713196
Don't forget rage drives are almost always also positive on block and lead to big damage on hit so you can just randomly throw it out in neutral and get some mileage out of it if you feel like it.
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>>183713019
>main, sub, and tertiary char all on the list

Wew feels bad being an unintentional tierwhore
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>>183713257
Teir lists in tekken are based off of extended sets. Jack is simple and straightforward. This means he's very hard to fuck up on. That's why he's fantastic in Bo3s, and not that good in death matches.

>>183713149
DJ already doesn't need to use electrics to win. The mishima that struggles hardest in tournaments with them is Kaz, as his gameplan is 80% electrics.
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>>183702562
reminder
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Is katarina shit?
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>>183713257
Because the tier lists you see posted are based on multiple hour deathmatches. He's a really good tournament characters but for deathmatches compared to other characters he's low tier.
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>>183713363
>tfw at low tier characters and never sub
Feels good
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>>183712843
some hard execution stuff is just fun to do. like, it's not the reason i play the game all the time, but whenever i'm bored labbing out situations/non-execution stuff, i can just start practicing something like an electric or jfsr or 1:3:3:3, and then go back to labbing what i was curious about before. kinda keeps me in the lab rather than turning the game off or going online on a whim.

and when people whiff punish with electric in tournament, people love that shit. brutal noise, happens so fast, sometimes they keep doing it in the combo, it's cool to look at. i think before slow-mo and shit, this kind of stuff was a great thing for spectators, and i think it's still that way now. like, yea, it's hard, but that means it's even more sick when someone uses it consistently well in a match.
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>>183713419
I thought kazuya's gameplan was 80% hellsweep/mid
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>>183713432
in low ranks she's top tier
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>>183713425
>ling chun li
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>>183713497
That's after you fuck up and he pops you with an electric.
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So what's DJ bad at since I see more Hei and Kaz than him online
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>>183713684
not looking like a big dumb dork with bird wings
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>>183702562
>yuri manga about fighting games
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>>183713684
He doesn't punish as well as Kaz, and he doesn't have as many launching mids as Heihachi, and he doesn't have as many evasive stances as ling.

Really, he has no great weaknesses, he's just ugly as fuck, compared to the kino that is heihachi and kaz.
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>>183713684
Not even kidding? Nothing. He's so insanely well rounded that the only problem you will ever have if you play as Devil Jin is execution.
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>>183713425
is this that Yuri manga that had a detailed frame data explanation
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Law is a tribute to Bruce Lee, Lei Wulong is a tribute to Jackie Chan, are there any fighting games that has a character that's a tribute of Jet Li?
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>>183714148
Feng
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>>183714148
feng kind of is.
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>>183713964
yes
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>>183713749
Is it even possible to customize him to remove/make them smaller?
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>>183714385
nope
you can make them white though
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How do we fix devil jin
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>>183714385
no. otherwise he couldn't fly.
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>>183714385
nope. You get to look like you were doodled in the margin of a notebook during pre-alegebra. It's the price you pay for power.
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>>183714490
give him a "no wings" customization.
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>tfw I unironically like DJ's design
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>>183714490
fix him by removing ling from the game
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>>183714228
>>183714348

>Feng

In what way?
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>>183714837
come on man
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>>183702562
>>183713425
>>183713750
>>183713964
>>183714351

>loli

Instantly dropped, I am not a degenerate
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>>183714837
I think bob looks cool and even I'm disgusted by your taste.
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when did we turn into /deviljin/
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>>183705352
There is NOTHING wrong with meme squid.
Granted that the player has at least a slight idea of what they're doing. Given the rank, that isn't the case though.
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>>183714931
your loss
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>>183714896
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBbBLyTqdoA
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>>183714967
DAAH!!
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>tfw you winquit another snake edging retard
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>>183715616
the cutest autist
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>>183715616
if you actually dodge sweep happy people instead of collecting free wins, I don't know what to tell you
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Not even going to bother wasting my time on Eddy, have your free win while I go make something to eat
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Post more tanukana
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>>183714837
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>>183712286
Stay down.
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So is there only the Japanese player list and the eventhubs tierlist right now for this game?
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Fucking hell.

I want to play devil job so badly but I just cannot get over how terrible his design is.
Life is suffering.
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>>183715616

I could watch this all day, but i have to play tekken
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>>183709959

Raven can get a full combo from like 5 different kinds of low attacks and one low attack from the whole screen away. People don't want to pick her up because her upper limit advanced stuff is daunting to learn but she has some crazy cheap shit that will blow any green rank away for free.
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>>183716132
Devil Jin's design looks fine to me.
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>>183716323
Yea bout you're a fucking retard
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>>183716132

Just customize him.
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>>183716323
Well your name is desecrated flame. Of course you're a cringey edgelord.
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Please tell me there's a better way to get treasure.

Three hours of treasure battle and still barely anything good. Does this ever get better?
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>>183706368
>character

kaz
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>>183716417
Or maybe you just take video games too seriously.
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>>183716517
Download trainer and literally press 1 button to unlock everything. No 2000 matches of pointless autistic AI grinding.
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>>183716668
Says the guy with a trip who has non stop posted about video games for years and has to fervently defend himself at every turn
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>>183716081
i only made two
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>>183716751
That doesn't effect my score or anything at all?

Thank God.
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>>183714348
>>183714228
Man I wish Feng wasn't an ugly-looking monkey and had Jet Li's charisma.
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>>183716995
Feng is cool as fuck you pleb.
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>>183717076
He's really not. He flails like a moron
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>>183716947
Yes, it does nothing, not even your stats affected. Just virtually sets your wincount offline at 2000 so everything is unlocked as if you played these 2000 matches.
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>>183717076
Dude waves his arms around like he's in a Naruto convention.
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>>183717146
Are you sure you're not talking about Miguel?
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>>183716995

You're the ugly monkey, fag.
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>>183717174
And then nothing changes for online, can just play away like normal right? I assume these cheats don't work online, considering I've never met another player that had any cheats like that.
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>>183717223
Guess you don't know shit about Naruto and just buzzwording
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>>183717321
Stay butthurt. Feng is lame
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shSW5CI8rhE

best King cosmetics I've ever seen.
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>>183717321
>You don't know shit about Naruto
Wow, it's like I don't watch a show about dudes flailing their arms like retards. Nice observation, Sherlock.
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>>183717076
>>183717262
I am and that's why I know that Feng is an ugly mnkey, like me.
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>>183717319
Yes you will be fine, just don't use other cheats online like godmod etc, idk what's going to happen
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hi.
what makes bryan so difficult for beginners? i want to play him cause he hits like a fucking truck but everyone says hes hard as fuck
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>can do ewgf and wgf 7/10 times in an online match
>can do spinning demon -3/100 times in an online match

Why am i so shit?
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>>183717395
>butthurt
But it's you spergin about his look, kid. Get some taste, waifufaggot
>>183717321
>Yes, I don't know shit I'm talking about just spewed out 'Naruto' because I'm a shitposting retard
Literal kek. Upvoted
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>>183717691
he's slow and he has no panic moves like a hopkick so getting people off your ass can be hard
he also has a backsway so KBDing is harder with him
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>>183717691
pick Paul he hits like a mach truck.

Here are some Bryan guides also

Guide (Zaibatsu) - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_s_0xiNer5V3zuaHjezHn7PPSH2ccktwSMCqXJtkO18/edit

Guide (4chan) -https://docs.google.com/document/d/139rPKrNc0nYHm2SmEa9Wy6LE7ps_2C0akOD4BQrmN2Q/edit#heading=h.es3f4k2fvc7l
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Hey guys I think I found Roger.
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>>183717817
Good job tagging the right person, retard. Here, I'll do it for you, since you're special >>183717441
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>>183710934

she looks great when a korean player pulls off cancel after cancel. whorang and bryan on the other hand are stiff as fuck.
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I've always been a Kuma player that mashed buttons since I knew what Tekken was

Is it possible to /get good/ with Kuma and do well or should I pick a non-meme character?
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>>183717960
Thanks, kind sir. May the sharingan be with you
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>>183718138

You can do well/get good with literally any character. One of the top 10 players on PS4 is a Bear player.
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>>183717946
holy shit thanks man
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>tfw you turn into the guy who keeps accepting rematches of the guy who always loses to you 0-3
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>>183694902
Because he's a dumb retard autist who doesn't like anime-robot-Russian girls. She particularly stands out in his crusty beady eyes so his complaining gets extra noisy if he's getting beaten by Alisa
>>
It takes me forever to find a game playing on ps4 because hardly any of the fight requests connect. It's the same for ranked and quick match.

is any one else having this problem?
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>>183718619
>fighting games on consoles
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Trying to play this game as me is suffering, can't react to anything and I can't recognize strings

Josie could do the same string 5 times in a row and I would low parry the 6th
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>>183716021

why not just spam counter hit mid launchers at him and collect free wins?
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tfw you lose a ranked match then realise you forgot to use AOP and then win the next two.
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>>183718534
thanks for giving me one more chance maybe ill stop hitting buttons during your strings next time haha
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Nearly 2 months in and I can't block or low parry kings little kicks
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>>183715616
Holy shit she's so cute
>>
when is PC getting patched REEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>
>all these brand new steam accounts with no friends that are destroying green ranks

hmmm
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>>183719984
28th of July for sure. There's no way it's not receiving a patch at that date.
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>>183720301
These players have some form of inferiority complex and have to beat up on new/less skilled players to feel good. Truly sad and pathetic.
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How much IQ do you need to play Heihachi?
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>>183721080
-1
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>>183721080

Hei - 150+
Kaz - 160+
Devil Jin - 100+
>>
I love this game
>>183719297
Reminder to hold d/b on Kings kicks. You can still block them even if the first one hits you
>>
This game makes me so mad I question if there even is a point to playing further risking my health from anger
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>>183721249
I play Kaz and hei
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>>183694732
No
1. Jaycee
2. Julia
3. Michelle
4. Wrestler Michelle
5. Ganryu
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>>183722065
what's there to get mad about? anything you lose to you can learn to beat. it's not like league where you will get put with retards on your team 50 % of the time and hate your life
>>
https://www.twitch
.tv/kingjae

OUR GUY JUST HIT 18 000 FOLLOWERS HOLY SHIT GET IN HERE BROS
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>>183722601
BRUV!
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>>183722601
>shilling in the deadest of generals

good going dude
>>
>>183722601
who?
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>>183722362
Mad at myself for being fucking retarded and mad at the opponent because he plays like a retard
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>>183722601
fuck off, feet is the only /our guy/ around here.
>>
Which tekken girl has the nicest feet? I'd say Leo____
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>played Tekken 2 and 3 as a kid
>play mostly Eddy
>buy Tekken 7
>pick up Eddy again
>make it to Brawler online
>"I guess I'll pick up a secondary character"
>pick up Katarina
>struggle with the most rudimentary moves and strings

The agony
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>>183722232

You know of all the times I see these lists of wanted legacy characters I really don't see any mention of Marduk. Is it because nobody bothered to try him out so therefore nobody misses him?
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>>183698665
He has a great full-crouch mixup. Mixups like that never run out of steam
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>>183722998
well they purposefully removed all black (male) characters, so he's probably not coming back

but isn't gigas basically marduk anyways?
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So what do I do here or against Josie in general

She just mashed and mashed different strings and I cant low parry or block on reaction and I tried different punishes but apparently everything was safe

I dropped the controller and went to make food, this game pisses me off
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>>183723112
>but isn't gigas basically marduk anyways
Not at all. They've got a couple moves but that's it
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>>183723168
Josie is the least UNGA character in the game, git gud.
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>>183723168
josie has no good lows dummy, just never block low
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>>183723168
Censor both names or don't censor anything, bitch.
>>
your daily reminder that mishima players are faggots
>PEWGF is not the hardest thing in FG history, get over yourself
>the reason you are stuck in blue/green is not because you play a mishima, it's because your trash
>you are not as honest as you think you have some of the greatest oki tools in the game

get over yourselves
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>>183723168
everything was definitely not safe. you can definitely low parry and duck under lots of stuff. if you don't know what to do on defense, though, then move more. getting hit out of a step is better than mashing and eating a ch launch.
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>>183723479
Stay mad
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>>183723168
You could have just stayed on the ground and taken the low and siderolled instead of holding back at the wall. After you blocked the low, for some reason, you started to mash instead of blocking the mid that comes after it. If you blocked it, you would have been able to actually contest her. You should have tech rolled on the first knockdown instead of trying to SPRING ATTACK AT THE WALL. Dummy.

Don't talk to me ever again.
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Newbie here, what does "oki" mean?
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>>183723168
You made a handful of mistakes there that cost you.
- First of all you should have tech'd up from the wall carry.
- Then you tried to springkick after cd+3 which got you refloated into a wall combo.
- You got up with back afterwards against the wall with nowhere to go, when realistically you should have straight stood or rolled on the floor for better positioning.
- Had you straight stood you would have been able to low parry the i26 d/f+3,2 string but instead you kept pushing buttons.
- Finally, you still get up with back despite it getting you killed not 2 seconds prior.
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>>183723479
>greatest oki tools
>ling, king, and steve exist

haha good joke.
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>>183723656
The setup you do when people get up. Basically, it's an extension of your advantageous situation instead of just backing off and letting people get up for free.
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>>183723653
I was trying to roll with 1 I think, I blocked the low and thought that was it I had no idea she could hit further

I thought it was just something like Drags D2
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>>183723797
Oh, thanks. I need to get out the habit of being a faggot and backing off when I have my opponent against the wall. I feel like a fedora fuck when I accidentally do it.
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>>183698950
Would you or someone else happen to have this guide for Wang?
http://www.tekkenzaibatsu.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=125733
The links are dead
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>>183723656
Using your dominant position after a knockdown to keep pressuring the opponent. Often times it involves refloats into combos, damage or forcing the opponent to wake up in a predictable way which is usually +frames for the dominant player.
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>>183723881
That's ok. Now you know. You'll do better next time!
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>>183723576
i'm not mad, i'm fed up of crap players complaining, i'm vanquisher i have no reason to be mad
>>183723682
true, but their oki is still insanly strong, you can hit yellow easy just through FF3 and hellsweep alone, they are unreactable and lead into more knockdown's and good damage
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>>183723998
Implying I wont forget it and get hit by it again
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>>183724008
both can be siderolled easily and the grounded hellsweep first hit does like no damage. this only applies to kazuya and dvj anyway.
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>>183723946
Afraid not, most of my game with Wang came from my own testing, so I had very different combos to his optimals. He's not in the game anyway, so there's no real point in getting the guide now.
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>>183701840
Ay bro, sorry I'm late. This basho had some wild ass bouts. A few lower rankers went super saiyan, but mitakeumi and yoshikaze are for real and will deservedly rank up.>>183701987
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>>183717954
What is this from?
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>>183724118
i know, but at lower ranks people don't lol. again i don't struggle with the matchup i'm just fed up of blue/green ranks thinking they are too good for advice or learning matchups because they play a mishima. i'm mostly just sick of the "i could be in yellow/orange but i play a mishima and i'm too smart for people in my rank boo hoo"
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>>183724332
It's from a Tekken 7 cutscene. It's the reason why PETA removed Roger from the game, fucking bastards.
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>>183723168
Basically what these two said.

>>183723653
>>183723676
When you're pressured against a wall panicking and mashing buttons is probably the worst thing you can do. Also don't forget that SSing is an option.

>>183724108
Everyone gets oki'd into oblivion every now and then. Familiarity with a given situation is what makes a good Tekken player.
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Hey quick question I just got tekken 7 day one and it came with a download code for a dlc character. My xbox lists it as downloaded yet she isn't in the roster. Do I have to unlock her?
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>3-0 Vindicator player
>Lose 3-0 to Mentor meming Yoshimitsu and Brawler sweep spamming Law

Dumb frogposter
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how do I into aggressive king
I can only win by fishing counters with b+1 and b/d+3 and that's only against character with no infinite mixups
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if youre in rage and half stage from a wall akumer can get almost 100 damage with no meter burn
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>>183725671
Yeah, let me just get a CH demon flip 4. Get that shit outta here.
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>>183725671
nice fantasy combo
>>
So Yoshi's staple ender is his b+2,1 then 1+2, f+2
how exactly do I do this? I understand how to do the 1+2, f+2, but it doesn't seem to come out.
I can mash 1+2 and it comes out but then the combo will be 1+2, 1+2

what is the timing after the b+2,1?
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>>183725671

Leave Steve to me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAhbAOkyWzg
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I honestly would like to pick up DJ, fully knowing I'm in for a lot of pain. What should my priorities be? Something like starting with basic pokes and punish strings, wavedash movement and mixups, using EWGF properly, his grab game, oki/wall strings, and then maybe stance bullshit?
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>>183726206
If you have to ask then you are not ready.
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>>183725906
without ch it's probaby like 92 or 94 or something, i just forgot to turn counter off. without rage and without ch it does 84. you could probably cancel something into raging demon at the wall to break 100

>>183725951
what's unrealistic about landing demonflip 4 at mid screen? that's all you need to do to land the combo

>>183726068
yeah i saw that live, that combo was godlike. i've tried doing it but i can't fadc. some korean hit a combo harder than that one on green arcade once https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1JKLZFoxsM
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>>183726281
Figured as much. Oh well, hopefully he'll still be around in T9.
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>>183726012
Press b+2 and then 1 immediately after. When they are launched, press 1+2 and then f+2
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>>183726206
I dropped my Law for Heihachi the other day, learning him is suffering but rewarding as fuck when I win online with my basic combos and punishes, I cant even 100% WGF properly let alone EWGF.
Im going to be unstoppable once I reach my full power level
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Characters have too many moves, why should I learn how to block some random string literally no Jin uses except for that 1 asshole, just remove the string
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>>183726206
Focus on pokes, punishes and anything that gets you plus frames. If you have any valuable CHs to fish with then focus in those too. Don't worry about EWGF for now but practice it if you feel like it. You only realistically need to wavedash twice in low level games, so don't even worry about it. Just make sure that you can dash out of CD and you've got your door to his mixup game wide open
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>>183726698
It takes 2-3 hours to memorize the movelist. Keep up, old man.
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>>183726352
actually this combo does more than 84, i noticed i accidentally did d2 dp instead of 2 dp after the dash. idk how much more damage, i think it's 88
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>>183725671
>>183726068
>>183726352

LEAVE STEVE ALONE
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>>183726579
It's painful, but there's something special about a character that has you "unlock" new tools as you grow as a player, as opposed to just using the same day 1 stuff in a more efficient manner.
>>
Is feet here?
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>>183727135
That feeling is why i spend too much time in the lab and not enough time playing the damn game.
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>>183722983

FRAAAAAAAAUD
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>>183726801
Good point. Not like those double EWGF combos'll do you any good if you can't open people up.
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Can every character KBD? I cant do it with my main but I can with heihachi
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>>183727551
yes but if your main has a backsway then you have to do the input cleanly or else you'll sway instead of dash. who is your main
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>>183724896
This is what I mean
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>>183727394
I did the same, only to find out that all the shit I could do in practice completely flew out the window during a real match. Gorta find a balance.
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>>183727786
Eliza
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>>183703038
Do you have any webms of that
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>>183703038
Is King the Captain Falcon of Tekken?

ie: only played by memers
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>>183727887
she doesn't have a backsway, so either you're not doing it right or you don't realize every character has a different backdash animation and length depending on their model (some characters have better backdashes than others, gigas for example has a terrible backdash because he has midget legs) and think you're doing it wrong because eliza's bd looks different than heihachi's
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>>183724896
No. None of the characters are locked, dlc or otherwise.
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>>183726521
my bad maybe I wasn't clear but I have no problems with the b+2, 1
It's the last part that I can't do, the 1+2, f+2
I don't get the timing and don't know what I'm doing wrong
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>>183727791
try hard resetting your console?

also how is t7 population on xbone?
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>>183728235
I already deleted and redownloaded, and resetted.

I haven't played online yet im doing the ridicukous story mode.

Also I havent pkayed tekken since 5 on the psp i used to use dragunov. Is he any good here?
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>>183727887
She has a terrible backdash. You're probably doing it correctly but you'll most likely have to hold the diagonal slightly longer.
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A move being + on hit means that I recover from it a single frame before the enemy does, right?

For example:

I'm Kazumi.
I've just used WS 1 on an enemy, which is i12 and is + on damage.
If he blocks it means I'll have another frame of advantage before he can move and I can use my standing jab, which is i10, as a i9 move.

Is that it or am I radically wrong?
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>>183728221
You're way too late with the 1+2 input. It needs to be b+2,1~1+2 done quickly. Not too fast or you'll fuck up and hit b+2~1+2
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>>183728235
>also how is t7 population on xbone?
i find matches quicker than i see people on ps4 streams finding matches, surprisingly. i don't think there's more people on xbox but i think xbox's networking works way better than it does on playstation.

>>183728361
dragunov is one of the best characters in the game
>>
Feng's sweep in his backturned stance comes out in like 10 frames and gives him a combo. Fuck this game.
>>
>>183728464
It means that's how long they take to recover.
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>>183728464
WS+1 is -4 on block, +7 on hit. So if you hit with it and you do a i10 jab, your i10 is effectively an i3 jab.
>>
Is 95 a good damage value for a staple combo?
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>>183728571
dragunov is *the best characters in the game
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>>183728480
oh wow, I didn't realize you could buffer it like that
thanks I got it now
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>>183728464
Frame data you see on places like rbnorway works subtractively. So say Law does n+1; n+4 the 4 input is 11 frames and will clash with an opponent's i10 move. Therefore, i11 less i10 leaves you +1 if the opponent blocks n+1
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why the fuck cant I stop watching KingJae's stream? Its weirdly comfy and I have no idea why
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>play really well fun match against Yellow rank
>Manage to win
>Go right back to forgetting everything and losing to 3rd dan mashing Hwoarangs right after

The fuck is wrong with me
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>>183728626
Needs a clean hit. Just back up. He can't pressure you if you back the fuck up when he turns his back to you.
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>>183728960
>actually english speaking stream
>no bg music so you can run your own
>not too big, not too small
>decent player, good chat interaction
>consistent streaming schedule
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>>183727404
I'll unga bunga ur face m8
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>>183728774
And if WS 1 is blocked and someone hits me with an i14 move it will be effectively i10?

I know these are stupid questions but I'm still trying to wrap my head round frame data. This is the first fighting game I'm playing seriously.
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>>183728960
I enjoy watching his stream whenever he's against an Eliza, Chloe, Akuma, etc.
>>
>>183728183
>>183728463
Thanks Ill just have to keep practicing I suppose just to confirm it is B,B,DB then B,DB etc from there right?
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>>183729067
The trick to not getting tilted against low ranks is to remember that anything will work against them.
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>>183729206
Yup. Correct notation. Does it look like she's barely moving? If so, you'll have to slow down a bit.
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>>183729096
That's right. At -4 your i10 jab will trade with their i14 move. They can effectively do an i13 or lower move and you will b3 unable to interrupt it.
>>
How do I deal with Fengs who turtle and do that move where they jump backwards and then do that launching hop kick?
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>>183729340
Block it and launch punish it
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>>183708126
Hey
Fuck you buddy
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>>183729340
Feng's b+3+4 moves him back a single backdash. Either dash into him and jab or find a move that chases him down. All else fails, just backdash away and take away that element of his game plan.
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>>183729302
yeah it looks like i may be inputting it too fast i wish i had some reference for what it should look like but shes not played a lot and she didnt get much footage at evo
>>
>>183729340
meditate
>>
>>183729340
Just run up and jab them since you'll stuff everything but the low if you don't want to be at the wall. Or just back the fuck up a bit.
>>
>>183729305
>>183728936
I see.

Thanks for the help, guys.
>>
>>183729701
Aris played against one for hours two nights ago. Should be in the vods. Jae played against one yesterday. Not sure if he archives his streams though.
200won streams every once in a while so try to catch him when he's on Tekken. Knee has a video on his YouTube where he plays as her. Check that out.

An anon here plays her and uploads his matches on YouTube but I don't remember what his channel name is. One of these should have a reference.
>>
So whats the best way to learn a new character? just Started with claudio today, and im already learning his sample combos. and im trying to get some ranked games in so its not just practise mode grind

>>183729617
TENGO
TENGO LA CAMISA NEGRA
>>
Give me a main and I will stick with it.
I'm tired of bouncing around and I just want to get good with one character.
So far I've gone through, Jack, hei, law, ling, Paul and now dropping master raven.
>>
>want a character with flourish because it's fun
>settle on Lucky Chloe because she's cute
>in the back of my mind know full well that Bob is objectively a better pick while still having sick flips etc

I don't quite regret it, but I can't shake the feeling I may have made a horrible mistake to invest so many hours into this character
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Holy shit Jin is so fun, switching from Lili was a good choice.

Waifufags, I suggest you try a husbando instead and see how you like it.
>>
>>183730480
Can you EWHF consistently?
>>
>>183730354

Heihachi or Kazumi
>>
>>183730354
Claudio
>>
>>183730564
averaging 7/10 instead of 1 so I'm getting there
>>
>>183730448
on the bright side she'll probably get buffed
>>
>>183730620
I wish I can. Otherwise I would switch to Jin.
>>
>>183730354
Play Steve/Hwoarang if you want high ceiling characters. Play Josie/Lili if you want a waifu.
>>
>>183730354
At least give us a number to roll for. Idiot.
>>
>>183730703
From what I read EWGF isn't integral to Jin like it is for proper Mishimas. It's cliche to say but just keep doing it 'til you get more consistent
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>>183730354
7 for Heihachi
>>
>>183730448
should also play eddy for the double meme
>>
Who should I play if I used to main lei and zafina. Oh, and before you suggest it, I didn't really like kill yourself. Not a fun character.
>>
>>183730746
Come on man. You know me pretty well. Who should I main. Just make a suggestion for your bro, from the heart.
>>
>>183731030
Kuma
>>
>>183730354
Stick with Maven she's good idiot
>>
>>183730354
Yoshimitsu
>>
I want to make Leo my wife.
>>
>>183731317
But he's a boy?
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I'm trying to learn Nina, is this kind of gameplay what I should be aiming for? Guides say sidestep cancelling is negative on block so Hwoarang should've been able to jab through some of this but you can never account for human error.
>>
>>183730354
Gigas
>>
>>183731357
Is leo a male (female) or a female (male)?
>>
>>183731357
even better
>>
>>183730354

>now dropping master raven.

Stop being a nigga and learn how to play this nigga. Maven has amazing baiting options, bullying and move command confusion is her speciality.
>>
>>183731505
female (female)
>>
>>183731882
gay
>>
>>183731317
t. yoshimitsu
>>
>>183731819
Not him but doesn't maven rely on your opponent being stupid? She doesn't seem to have good options for opening people up if they're defense is solid
>>
H E I H A C H I M I S H I M A
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>>183731882
found the gay in denial
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Lads why is sitting in Infinite Azure practising EWGF's so comfy
>>
>>183732114
>>183732673
if I was gay, I would like Lili
>>
is it bad that i made it to yellows without knowing how to kbd?
>>
>>183733073
who's your main?
>>
>>183732484

Maven has loads of yellow mid launches, you've just got to bait your opponent into ducking with aggressive low pokes. You can do this by using n2,3 or d,df, 3 which is a super quick long ranged low, extremely annoying.
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>>183733146
eliza
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>>183733354
Do you at least cancel your backdash with a sidestep?
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>>183730075
Porque negra tengo el alma
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>>183718619
maybe its your end? im finding a match in seconds..or minutes, and im from argentina..
>>
>>183730942
No joke, Kuma
>>
>>183733814
im an argie too, add me on steam
>>
>>183731359
SS+1 by itself is -10 on block. Cancelling it into her crouchdash or sway is +10
>>
>Jae switches to DJ after playing Paul
>Played Gigas last few days all night
>lands 2 EWGF straight away

Fuck this, im going bed
>>
>>183730798
I know. It's a struggle, especially since I have to do it on both sides. But I'll get there hopefully
>>
>play low iq character
>don't need complex execution to deal high damage
>have fun without stressing over anything
Feels good.
>>
>>183734305
Really strong characters
>>
which tekken streamers are /ourguy/
>>
>>183734305
hes been playing tekken for years
>>
>>183734667
aris
>>
>>183734305

Jae has been playing for a long time. One of his main teams in Tag 2 was Kazuya/Bruce.
>>
>>183734667
kingjae and tmm
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>>183734235
i play on ps4 comrade
>>
>>183734667
jiyuna
>>
>>183734741
reddit's guy

>>183734773
eurotrash's guy

>>183734832
goober's guy


Uui is our guy.
>>
>>183734667
us: aris
eu: jae

that simple
>>
im our guy
>>
>>183734667
Aris, rip, kingjae, spero

Maybe arsenalty
>>
>>183734667
knee
>>
>>183734667
Lumen Reber
>>
Fuck Laggot_Foser on psn and fuck your shitty Leo. Why does he have a strong high crushing launcher and a low crushing launcher? Fuck leo.
>>
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>>183734667
him undoubtedly.
>>
>>183734667
lowhigh
>>
>>183735154
The high+mid crush stance into launcher?
I hate that shit so much. Of course it's also got tons of other shit from the stance too. Literally AoP-lite.
>>
>>183734283

what about the strings with built in sidesteps? like d/f1,2 or 1,2?
>>
What are the medium execution characters of this game?

They all seem to be either braindead easy or so hard it's not even worth bothering, eg hwoarang, lee and the mishimas
>>
>>183734991
what's your name?
>>
>>183735846
Mike Jones
>>
>>183735932
who?
>>
>>183736126
Mike Jones!!
>>
>>183736159
*gives out cellphone number*
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>>183714837
Same, friend. I've always been a fan of over the top edgy designs.
>>
>>183738336
RIP, Chester Bennington.
>>
New thread

>>183738542
>>183738542
>>183738542
>>
>>183738507
I was genuinely upset. Rip indeed.
>>
>>183734914
Uui is a footfag nobody. Fuck off
>>
>>183693730
Yeah, you gotta get used to using it on people, since they are always moving/blocking, you gotta have a gameplan in order to get to the point of execution.

That comes with playing online, where its best to adapt and learn that stuff.
>>
>>183695236
Not even close.
>>
>>183730678
>tekken
>post launch balance changes
welcome to tekken 17er
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