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>>183633898

I actually managed to pull it off thanks to you. Albeit with a shitty ender.

2nd for Josie is honest, stop bitching

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Best sisters

>>183636304
It works off of hellsweeps too. A surefire way to make someone duck if they weren't already.

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>>183635719
5th for beating women

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Friendly reminder that TMM is just sand bagging and could beat JDCR if he wanted to but he chooses to play the worst Mishimas because he values honesty over everything.

>>183636627

>Lili is related to a vampiric demon slut.

Purge

>>183636171

>125x70

WHY

>>183635719
fucking idolfag

>>183636627
Now I want Asuka and Eliza to become best friends.

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I have joined the green berets.

Someone give me my fucking hat.

>>183636627
how did Lili become a lesbo if she came from a family of succ?

>>183637142
>Pathetic
What a perfect win quote.

>>183637109
Now I want Lucifer and Afro to become best friends

>>183636304
Weird combo

Ewgf ewgf f23 bf23 s! f3+421 74 dmg

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>>183637243
>implying anyone can resist these

>>183637332

Yeah, I know that combo already. I was testing the timing on iWS4 after f3.

>>183637332
You've missed the conversation last thread. He's practicing to hit
ff+3; EWGF; f+3; iWS+4; b~f+2,3; (S!) b~f+2,1
For 75 damage, the best damage off of that launcher on human characters.

>>183637414
too big

>>183637680
Not a thing

>>183635719
>still no Iori DLC character

What kind of husbando does Harada think he is?

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>>183636745
daily reminder that the worst mishima is still plenty good

honestly josie should be so much thicker for being filipino. there are probably 100 filipino females at my work and I think maybe 1 of them is as thin as she is.

>>183637581
>>183637634
I see srry

I'll fight you anytime

>>183638640

>>183638640
I love how much everyone hates paul.

Eat this demoman bitch nigga.

>>183638640
>hiding king on the top right

>>183638746
>Asuka
>girly
>Ling
>gay

??????????

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>>183638640
>tfw your character is unga and dishonest
I just want to be the Spanish Catholic Brawler

>>183638746
What is this graph even supposed to be?

>>183638640
nice graph you stupid fuck

>Jae being on tilt after getting demoted by Eliza
>complains he can't do anything when he plays the worst character in the game
>muh "This character is broken, bruv"

Why do people watch him daily again?

practice

>>183636712
>lose to Bryan
>he starts punching Raven
>they won't skip the scene
He can't keep getting away with it...

Post videos of popular streamers getting butthurt. I want to laugh

>>183639676
http://tekkengamer.com/2017/05/09/king-jae-c-krizzle-disqualified-uk-tekken-7-championship-series-collusion/

How do I not kill myself over the stupid bullshit gimmicks that some characters can do?

I know I just have to get used to it and deal with it but some of the shit in this game just makes me throw my hands up in the air and say "why."

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>>183638746

>Lee
>Not at the top of totally gay.

I've loved tekken since I was a young boy but god damnit I cannot pick one character to play. I'm constantly switching, and it's getting to the point where my old man is starting to over take me because he just plays his 1 main all the time.

My own father promoted to brawler and marauder before me, because I can't decide on who to play. My highest rank is expert because I hardly play ranked, due to lack of confidence on any one character.

Some days my heihachi is on point, some days I think I should give up mishimas and go play Mario 64 I'm so bad

>>183640318
what a bunch of buttmunchers

>>183640832
Learn them? Perhaps play the character to understand what they're doing and why they're doing it. Look at yourself and see if you can do anything, or check youtube or do literally anything other than bitch about it on a Laotian crocheting board

>>183640931

On second thought Mario 64 is probably too hard for how retarded these hands can be

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Jack is _______

>>183641352
Picked too often and its getting dry to watch Jack v. Jack every match

>>183641352
Friends with bryan :)

>>183640931
try lowering the number of characters you play by half. pick your favs, then play ranked, see who you have fun/win/want to play more with. And if you lose just be a bitch and say "this character isn't my main, who gives shit" and keep playing that character.

then lower the number of characters you play be half again, and keeping doing repeating the process until you only play 2 maybe 3 people at the absolute most.

>>183641352
stupid looking. at no point since I first saw him in TTT1 did I think he look cool. his proportions are all fucked up and his moves look retarded.

>>183641352
Based.

>>183641352
fun to play but i really dont care for how he looks

>>183641352
A child's mind in a lopsided death machine.

>>183641352
for loving

>>183641530

Thanks for the advice. I'm also just feeling extra salty since I hadn't played in a week or two and just got supremely creamed in the lobby with my friends.

I'll probably lay off the high execution characters, because sometimes I'm on point but then I stop for a week and suck with them when I come back.

Why don't people have fun with the game and instead trying to be the very best that you can never be?
I've been there, and its butthurt to lose in that state.

Let's just enjoy the game and eachother.

>>183642050
I gave up playing high execution characters in fighting games. Somewhere between taking breaks, being too lazy to grind execution, and not having great execution in the first place, I always pick easy to play unga shit and actually have fun instead of being infinitely frustrated with dropping things.

>>183642308
shut the fuck up Alisa

>>183642308
I want to be the very best but I also have fun. There's nothing stopping you from having both kinds of feelings.

>>183642351
You can learn the game with easy execution characters without using Unga shit as a crutch.

>>183642308
I want to be the best I can be AND have fun

>>183642574
Yeah like how htc2112 plays Feng

>>183642574
stay mad

>>183641647
Dude I was the same exact way. Never touched him because I hated how he looked, especially his face. But then I saw he has a golem customization in this version that made him fine to look at and turns out I find him really fun to play.

>>183635719
That Ganryu plushie is pretty cute tbqh

>>183642565
Well, some take it too far/hard on themselfs.

>>183642308
>trying to improve and get to a decent level means you get butthurt if you lose
maybe if you're a bitch lmao

>>183641647
Jack, Jack 2 and Prototype Jack look infinitely better.

>>183640931
Just play all the characters? Who cares about mains

>>183643083
Someone fucking shoot this bitch

nothing like being winquit by a josie after a 2-3 while he's 2 ranks higher

the spam never ends

>>183643194
Yep. You know em when you see them.

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>>183640885
Lee goes both ways

Feet better take games off Aris today

>>183643664
Aris will just end up deathmatching against Eliza again.

>>183643580
man that was my first video game induced boner

>stuck in blue at 80 wins
>realize i've been just repeating the same errors over and over and not learning the character
>spend a week in hyperbolic training chamber
>grinding execution, KBD, and troubleshooting matchups
>load up a long session of player matches
>can visibly see improvement in neutral game and fundies because of KBD improving movement
I-I'LL BE OUT OF BLUE RANK SOON BOYS.

>>183644084
Implying u need kbd to leave blue ranks looool. Just get a + on hit low and a fast mid ch launcher you'll be out of blue in 1 day

>>183644084
How can anyone be stick in blue? Embarrassing

TheMainManSWE or KingJae?

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>>183644260
>get a + on hit low
>and a fast mid ch launcher
I'll try that.

>>183644084
I reached yellow in 70 wins without knowing how to KBD.
KBD is not the answer for everything but is used in particular situations.

People that do a second launcher after whiffing the first one are fucking scum. I never expect them to be fucking stupid enough to actually try for it again and am always BTFO for it.

>spent first 20 hours in practice mode learning character moves (not even combos and stuff, just pure basics)
>currently spending another 50 or so grinding as high as I can in Treasure Battle while returning to practice periodically to work through anything that gives me trouble
>plan on going from here to player matches for at least another 50, and then finally to ranked

Probably the least efficient method, but I'm having fun and I'm learning my character inside and out.

>>183644560
You're the stupid one.

>>183644560
>"Gootecks! Watch this SICK setup."
Always imagine Mike Ross is always on the other side doing some stupid shit.

>>183644443
The closer to 0 mid launch the better. Like Bryan's qcb3 into f3. The low is +4 on hit and the f3 is i16 and 0 on block. Kazuya's db4 into df2. Db4 is also +4 on hit (+10 on ch!!) And df2 is i14 ch launch but it's -12

>>183644785
"WHAT DID IT DO!!?" "THEY KNOW WHAT IT DID!"

>>183644441
Main Main will at least dig de characters so you don't hear him bitch about them. Jae will play against them endlessly and bitch about how broken the other character is while the chat is trying to give him tips on how not-broken that character is.

How do you press buttons against Steve without getting hit with a never ending string or eating CHs?

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Corre de volta para sua mamãe!
*winquits you*

>>183645663
Why is she slapping her womb tattoo?

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>>183646147
cuz she is a boring character that is a waste if a slot and we could've gotten Ganryu or Julia/Jaycee back instead, but noooooo. Sorry I am bitter.

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>>183646273
Your trash waifu is never coming back kid

>>183646273
>waste of a slot

No slot is wasted.

>>183646616
>Panda and Kuma play exactly the same
>not just an alt costume for Kuma with a different Rage art like when King has that one outfit equipped
>TWO SLOTS USED
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>>183646737

you better believe it

>>183646949
Kek

>Characters you can't stand playing against
Asuka
Bad Jins
Hwoarang
Josies who don't do anything other than press buttons, seriously fuck this character god damn.

>>183643920
was it Heihachi that gave you the boner?

>>183647128
Law
Paul
Bears
Alisa
that's it really

I feel like those characters do whatever the fuck they want and get away with so much.

>>183647128
>Characters you can't stand playing against
none
I enjoy playing against everyone.

>>183647169
him and lee B)

>>183646616
well actually they had to devote time and resources to making that character when they could've just taken less effort to bring in an existing character that people actually wanted so yeah no kid

When you're fighting, are your eyes focused on:

The space between the characters

The opponent's character

I do the former for 2D games, but it hasn't really helped me here, so I've been doing the latter. Is the general accepted approach?

>>183647419
Why are saint's expressions always so weird

>>183647348
Law? He can't get away with much. Xiaoyu tho...

>>183647348
Well aren't you a special snowflake.

>>183647419
zozzle

>>183647494
I focus on their legs
For MOST characters, everything else is either something that can be blocked down the middle or something that has a lot of flourish
So I focus on legs to see if they're doing anything sneaky
and then eddy shows up and I just sort of hope he doesn't try anything

>live in Asia
>every blue rank plays like they're yellow
Seriously, this region is very unforgiving for noobs like me.

>>183647494
My eyes are focused equally on both

>>183647494
the opponents controller

>>183647790
where in asia u at

>>183638640
is this the most accurate chart ever?

>>183647790
Hey, living in Korea must be awesome.

>>183647836
Singapore

>>183647963
Not really living in korea, but I end up fighting JP or KR players every once in a while.

>>183647494

I focus on my opponents hands the entire time so I'm always ready for a throw.

>>183647984
how many kids have u stabbed

>tfw you think of sweet okizeme setups and good neutral-game mixups in your spare time but then you get online and blank out and go for a throw three times

>>183648257
write them down if you need to, and practice them in the practice mode
then do it again
then go into player matches and focus on nothing else
THEN try it in ranked

>>183647790
>matched against laggy green rank koreans
>only ever win because of the lag, annihilate me in moments of good connection

I don't know why I've being matched with these fuckers when I live in california

>>183647414
>still mad certain characters aren't in

Kek.

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calling it for the night

>It's a start at 4 bar and miraculously go to 3 or 2 bar when I hit a combo
>It goes back to normal the second I drop it
>They hit all their shit just fine
Dunno whether it's annoying or funny.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAspDh3b3XA

>>183641352
pushing the bandwagon really hard right now

>>183648492
Check your steam download region fool

>>183648762
You must've had a hard read to really press that many buttons

What's the easiest move to land to get magic Italian exorcist powers with on Claudio?

>>183649401
>OSSE

>>183649401
Superman punch

>>183649543
BRB just getting 100+ damage off a low.

>expert rank
>one match only
>teabagging
>in player matches

>try to use power crush as Josie against mashing Steve
>he does more damage to me with his 1234 combination while the move is starting up

Who's the lewdest Tekken girl?

>>183649884
Anna

>>183649884
Most people will say Kat, but really it's Eliza

>>183649884
Asuka

>>183649884

josie

>Go into a match thinking that a King player won't be a faggot
>Dead wrong every single time
Is it in a King player's nature to be a ginormous shithead? Why does one character attract only the most destitute members of society?

>>183650006
>>183650035
Good choices but Josie has the bouncy tits that want a cumshot

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scrub from last tread here. I'be been trying to do this damn Lili combo I discovered on accident for the last hour and my hand is starting to hurt. Maybe its just my inexperience, but the timing for this seems real tight; I've only completed it twice.

d/b+4; d/b+3; d/f+2; b+2,1,1+2

maybe you guys can get it. you do have to delay that last 1+2 a bit for it to connect.

thanks for the advice last thread too, really appreciate it

>>183650129
because king is a character that growls at people while wearing an animal mask and tail

>>183650221
d/b+4 is a sweep, right?
Just do FC d/f+1 1,2 d2,2,3 ff3~f qcf1,2 it's 70 dmg I think

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>>183650129
Yeah, but does it feel good or what when you kick their ass

>>183650448
not really looking for the highest damage, just wanted rip see if it was consistently doable. thanks for the combo though

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>Block a Kazuya Hellsweep or a Bryan Snake edge
>Know that they're starting to sweat
You faggots need to really learn a new character stop using crutches

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>bryan players
>always leave after the first match, even in player match

>>183650812
Bryan's snake edge is normal but blocking kazuyas hellsweep means he finally got u ducking. So now here come the midssssss

What is the most damage Josie can get from u/f+3
I get 57 with u/f+3, f+3,3,3 S!, dash f+2,3,4

>>183650235
This. I really don't see why anyone thinks he's cool
>muh wrestler though

>>183650812
I almost never use snake edge, even when it's obvious it will work. It's not something any Bryan player should rely on

>>183650912
>grappler
>fag
>furry
>gimmicks
>mixups built-in into moves
gee I wonder

>>183650812
>blocking hellsweep
I hope it's a one time read else he actually got into your head

>>183650834
Why do people think who you play is correlated to this? I play on PS4 and almost everyone quits after one match now

>>183651098
i've been just doing player matches for the past few days, and the quitters are either 1) Bryan, or 2) yellow players who probably think I'm not worth their time

Why does Claudio have that hopkick?

Feet with the salty 1-1

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>>183651376

>>183651376
If he didn't then having Starburst wouldn't make him worth the effort.

Why are Claudio's shoulders so broad?

>tfw starting to like the helicopter stage music
JUST

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>>183651416
>Frame data on in an online match
>"but you can't actually use it online nobody has that brain power"

>>183651721
same desu

What makes steve so good?

Who is "tekkengirl0972" on the PS4 leaderboards? They are currently ranked #1.

>>183652760
my gf

>>183652820
gf (male)

>>183652914
twink?
bishunen?
cd?
trap?

>>183652760
probably some Ling main

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I can't stop playing tekken bros, I have 40 hours in 5 days

>>183653536
It's a dragunov main actually

The whole dubstep is crappy meme is so tired. G pad has a good song on day and night.

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>uui instantly dodged Aris

>>183653618
That's literally nothing.

>>183653787
>8 hours per day
>nothing
calm down basement dweller

>>183653856
No this is literally nothing
Some people stream for 12 hours straight
Several do this on a daily basis since they are in vacation (or are neets)

>>183654049

>8h to 12h is nothing

yeah....

>>183653737
he's playing now and got aris on a salty 1-1

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>>183654049

>>183654295
upvoted

>>183653737
i honestly don't dodge unless you have a proven history of lagging.

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>>183654747

>>183654747
kinda looked like a dodge on his end, since it was an instant decline
good job on the second game it was looking pretty rough there

Below how many frames of startup does something need to be unseeable?
When someone says a move is for example an "unseeable low", how fast is that usually?

>>183654747
feet im in love with you

>>183655002
hmm on my end i never got an challenge from aris. I got a different challenge from a bear player then after that i got aris.

>>183654747
Feet, I love your Lili.

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>>183655029
Get the value of frames in ms, and see the averange human reaction in ms and you get your answer.

>>183655208
Google says ~250ms which is 15 frames at 60fps
Which seems like a fuckload of moves fall under that, actually. That's a little unnerving to think about.

>>183655029
this is just from my experience
20 frames is seeable but hard to react to
anything below 20 is considered unreactable
anything above 20 is reactable
input lag is also a big factor obviously, since every frame matters and there are frames going from standing to blocking.

Well I just lost to a girl.

Time to commit suicide.

>>183655832
You should have killed yourself long before that if it somehow mattered.

>>183655208
>>183655357
Nah that's not how it works. Twitch reaction can be as fast as 10 frames (166ms) but you won't see anyone reacting to jabs. Visually recognizing the animation of a particular move is much harder, in a real match especially. And you also have to add input delay on top of that. So i'd say the cutoff in Tekken is around 20-22 frames if we're talking about PC offline (16-18 frames to react +4f lag). And that's still hella hard if you're not korean on adderall. Online is a different story obviously.

boy i sure love launcher lows

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Do you have to hold back when you KBD for blocks to work? I remember reading you have to hold back during the dash animation to block attacks. I tried it in practice mode and it didn't seem like I needed to hold back. I do the cheap QCB method so I do: B, B, N QCB, B, N QCB ...

I get tagged a lot when backdashing online. I don't know if its because I have to hold back or because my D,DB window in the QCB is really fat and I get hit by mids

>>183655357
Which is why only Koreans are good at this game.

If you're an old man like me with a 22 frame reaction time and you can't even block Snake Edge, you're just free to everyone.

>>183656879
>only Koreans are good at this game.
False

>If you're an old man like me with a 22 frame reaction time
You can work on that, plenty of "old" people in the FGC

>and you can't even block Snake Edge
You can work on that

>you're just free to everyone.
Yes you are.

You're just a pussy.

How come Bryan has such a good kit?
It's not fair fuck you Harada

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>>183644731
Good for you. Just don't panic when you realize the low ranks are full of spammers and cheeselords. Online matches are extremely different from treasure battles. I recommend ranked because player matches can throw you against tekken god primes. Just a heads up

>>183638640
>Miguel
>more dishonest than Dragunov, Josie, Lili, Feng, Maven, Whoreang, Chloe, and Law

>>183656854

Are you playing on pad or stick? It's quite different for both

>>183657504
>player matches can throw you against tekken god primes
Never happens

>>183657278
Christ you people are always rude as fuck.

goddamn I hate dragonov

seriously why does he have so much shit and no weaknesses

>>183657604
It shouldn't matter with respect to whether or not I have to hold back during the dash animation.

>>183657742
Eeee~

>>183657714
You're local bingo club might be more up to your speed grandpa

*pshhh*
One Two
*pshhh*

>>183657996
IKIMAS
AII

>>183657878
At least bingo doesn't have 15 frame low launchers.

>>183657627
No, but it's possible. I just meant the ranked matches you a bit better regards skill level.

>>183658081
It's 20 frames

>>183657785

Well, I play on both and it actually does matter on whether or not you have to be holding back. With pad, you can get away with not returning to neutral during your backdash, and just keep shifting your thumb between b and db, whereas with stick, you're forced to return to neutral if you don't want your backdash to look like a fuzzy guard. If you're getting hit during your backdash, it's probably better if you just held back instead.

>>183658218
Well I wasn't talking about that one specifcally.

But I wouldn't mind knowing what the fastest low that launches in the game is.

I get way to stressed out when playing online. I mean I don't get super buttmad or anything from losing constantly or anything but it has become so stressful and intimidating that I am too scared to even leave practice or treasure battle. What do?

>>183658364
Man (woman) up

is bryan in the top 5 most popular characters online or something? everyone tells me hes popular but i've only ever seen a handful online

>>183655123
>>183655193
thanks for the compliment i guess?

>>183658364
Play more and get used to losing. There's no magic cure

Xiaoyu needs a nerf at once

>>183658364
play player match

>>183658229
>If you're getting hit during your backdash, it's probably better if you just held back instead.

I guess what I'm asking is from a game mechanics point of view do you have to hold back during the backdash animation or do you still block if you're neutral at that point

>>183658518
he's more popular in arcades.

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>>183658364
>"Hey kid, just imagine the audience naked."

>>183659569
>>183657785
>>183656854
Lucifer?

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>>183660091
?

Jack is top tier and you have no arguments to debate otherwise.

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>>183638648
>Doesn't remacth

>>183660420
every good player disagrees

>>183658364
Its a good chance for you to learn to control yourself.

Desesperate players cant parry shit.

Whoa... everyone talking about shit ranks and I am just happy that I reached 3rd dan.

Yes I am that bad...

> I only played Tekken 3 and 5 with my friends.
> It was fun because we could just smash button, do some nice moves and someone would won at random.
> After this I played 5 and 6 offline on PSP... You know when you won some ranks offline and the CPU start to parry your attacks? yeah, super difficult..
> And then I got 7 and everyone just wipe the floor with me on online.

But it is fun, I finally learned some basics, some moves, started to parry shit and now I usually won against half of the equally bad players that I find online.

For that anon that was complaining that he could never play a legacy game, yes you can, you just need to try.

>>183660880
Can confirm. Tekken 7 is a great time to get into Tekken.

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>>183660880
...Also, find a character that you have fun playing.

Asuka is not very noob friendly anyway but its my main anyway.

So starbust d+2 by claudio is an unseeable low launcher? Is that what i'm seeing here?

>>183661030
Asuka is fine. Just beware of becoming reliant on strings and reversals.

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Is Marauder the hardest rank to escape?

is akuma's teleport even worth using? i use it to get off walls since it's invincible but i imagine good players will just dash into it and punish

>>183661412
Nope. Just use movement.

>>183661030
What if I get insulted for the characters I play? Not that I really care what they say. They're usually shit players

>>183661269
Vanguard or Fighter because you get the Orange ranks trying new characters, the yellow ranks who got demoted, the yellow ranks ranking up on a new character and the scrubby Vanguards and Fighters with 300+ wins

24 hour no stream hype!!!

>>183661269
Not if you stopped focusing on lives, stupid Nico.

>>183661030
Put your trip back on

What rage arts are low and high?

>>183660420
No good panic move

>>183658518
Bryan was fucking everywhere in Tag 2 both online and offline

>>183661663
Akuma's is an h,m,l

>>183657742
At this point I think it's a Yamasa conspiracy to keep Nobi relevant. Jesus Christ who thought it was a good idea to buff his slide from -9 to -1 on hit and from launch punish to like -12 on block.

>>183636745
This is kinda true.

He always complains about dishonest ones to.

>>183638748
Probably because a 3 combo string takes away 30% of your health and death fist is fucking retarded

Also
>low iq fag defends his braindead character
Erry tiem.

>>183660761
That must be why they're all picking him up :^)

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I love this shit

>>183641352
Broken and retarded hitboxes.

>>183662175
Who? I can only think of Speedkicks and that's for one matchup.

>>183641352
A Arnold mock-up that was funny in the 90's but is mow just retarded

>>183660761
Literally only JDCR

>>183662459
Show me a pro player saying he's top tier.

Does Alisa teach Tekken fundamentals well???

Ok, so this is a niche question but I'll ask anyway.
There's a move for Lucky Chloe that deals 60 damage, is unblockable, and crushes lows + some mids.
Sounds great, except it has a fuckin godawful 76 frame start-up. I don't even think she has any launchers that can lead into it.

When the fuck, if ever, am I supposed to use this shit? It feels like Jack's wind-up punch; sure you can in theory get a ohko with it, but you will basically NEVER be able to charge it long enough to pull that off.
Am I missing something, or should I just pretend it doesn't exist?

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>>183635719
should i change characters, i cant concentrate when i play asuka i keep getting distracted
i cant take my eyes off perfection

>whiff or get blocked
>Panic launcher
Fuck off you faggot.

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>>183662776
Don't use it.

>>183638640
>Kazumi
>unga
she has no strings for pressure apart from d/f+1,2 which is -13.

>Kazuya
>more unga than Heihachi
are we playing the same game?

t. Kazumi/Kazuya player

>>183662710
Sure if you learn to play her properly.

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>>183638640
this chart is more accurate

>>183662710
>>183662934
What about Kazumi? She seems super fundies so far.

>Josie's standard d/f+2 not only has above average range but it's a high crush as well
why

Master Raven sucks. I've wasted so much time

>>183663075
>high crush

Really? Damn I'm glad I switched to her

>>183663071
Yes

>>183663071
Kazumi and Jack both teach good fundies.

>>183663116
Alright Kyu. Every character you play will suck too.

>Snake edge
>Snake edge
>Snake edge
I literally cannot win against a character that has a snake edge. I do totally fine against anything else but I'll be damned if I couldn't be demoted by more shitty Bryans, and Lings. It's truly infuritating but it's just so hard to block on reaction. Fuck man I'm so fucking salty.

>>183663132
>>183663201
I always hear Kazumi being referred to as being "defensive", in what way is she defensive? I like playing defensive characters usually. Does she rely on a lot of movement and whiff punishment?

>>183663310
Have you tried low crushing instead

>>183663075
>Push the opponent back with b4 at range
>df2 under their attempt at regaining control

Every time.

>>183663310
Two characters have moves called Snake Edge - Dragunov and Bryan - and they take eons to hit.

>>183663325
Kazumi is rushdown.

>>183663389
I guess but my character doesn't have a "hopkick" to punish them with a full combo.

>>183663491
>Snake edge is the actual name for it
>Everyone knows that for ease of communication every slow low launcher is referred to as a "snake edge" it's a classification same as "Mishima"
Katarina, Ling, Dragunov, Bryan, and Lili off the top of my head all have snake edges. Same shit. But Lings is super hard to see coming giving all the shit she can do in a crouch/AOP state. Regardless it's really fucking hard to react to for me on the fly especially in Green when they mash inbetween snake edges.

I cannot for the life of me get the timing right to dash after Jack's d/f 1,1. The few times I am able to dash I always fuck up the inputs to do either b+3, 2, 2 or f,f 1+2, 2.

What do?

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Does anyone know a better combo off of Drag's Rage Drive?

I was thinking of getting Tekken 7.

I've never played a fighting game before.

What should I expected? I was thinking of trying Josie because everyone said she was easy to learn and because I think she's cute.

>>183663287
Not kyu. This ain't my first tekken smartass. She relies far too heavily on your opponent being a retard.

>>183663791
It's shit mate don't buy it. The less Josie players the better.

>>183663719
Only here and maybe Steam forums would anyone call any low sweep Snake Edge.

>>183663975
t. blue/green rank

>>183664005
Any low sweep launcher that crushes high is called a Snake Edge by everyone. Same with Orbital Heel if they share the same properties.

>>183664005
Are you gonna give me any practical advice or are you gonna fight me over the jargon that doesn't even matter because they're all functionally the same fucking thing you autist.

For you few Eliza players, Nin made a video showing her different punishers up to 16 frames startup, crouching and standing.

>>183663975
What's wrong with Josie? Is hating her a /pol/ meme or something.

>>183664218
Link?

>>183664005
we call homing launching lows snake edge at locals. if they aren't homing, then they're just sweeps.

>>183636316
Honest or fucking not you still have to use a shit ton more brainpower to beat even the most mediocre of Josie mains because of her strong for no fucking reason kit, braindead easy 70% percent wall damage combos, and super practical lows and crush game.

>>183664339
https://youtu.be/O5pKeWRWb3M

Was made specifically for Suiken.

>>183663325
Kazumi is a poke heavy offensive character. If you want a defensive character that will also teach you good fundamentals, go with Jack.

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>>183664467
Thanks

>>183663325
for starting fundamental characters, Jack for defense and Kazumi for offense.

>>183664329
No, it's because she's annoying as fuck to fight. Up there with King memers. Simple gameplan, but the ONLY way to stop both of them require you to know the matchup and when to block or duck or break where. All of this thinking you have to do while the enemy Josie or King doesn't have to do any of it.>>183664414

Is there a character with
Good sidestep moves

>>183664930
Feng

>>183664849
Oh okay.

Well I'll probably be shit when I start so that'll offset the cancer.

>>183638640
swap yoshi with bryan, move lili and asuka to the extreme left and it's perfect

>>183663791
Expect to lose a lot before you start to improve. Pick someone you like playing as. Don't let others discourage from learning a character. Expect to be in the lab a lot to learn what you can do against moves you have trouble with. Expect to get familiar with tons of frame data. And lastly, expect to have tons of fun.

>>183647128
Asuka
Hwo
Asuka
Asuka
Alisa
Asuka
Bears
Paul
Asuka

everyone else is fair game

>>183665349
Asuka wouldn't be a big deal if everyone and their fucking mom didn't play her, and on top of that they usually either play like maniacs and mash until you die or they sit across the map waiting for her backflip kick to finally hit you after throwing it out 20 times.

>>183665205
Is it wrong-minded to want to play with real people, maybe some people here? I feel like that would be better for me to learn.

Oh, and is it playable on a gamepad? I don't really want to shell out for a fighting stick.

>>183665719
PS4 pad is very good to play Tekken 7 on. Depending on the character, you don't even have to do the fancy claw grip.

Look at Anakin today at Dreamhack. Played Paul holding PS4 pad totally normal.

>>183665719
Not wrong minded at all. Learning and playing with real people is the best thing fighting games offer. It's also the only way to truly improve.
The game is totally playable on pad. Only buy a stick if you want to venture into that side of things or if you feel more comfortable with it. It's all preference.

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>>183665719
The game's easily playable on pad, one of the few fighters where pad is genuinely tournament viable. You can learn by playing people here as well, the other half of learning is trying out stuff for real.

>>183663762
This is the best I could find, but I know you can hit the normal f+4,4,3 staple. So see if that does more damage.

Practice your iWR+2s as well

>>183665601
Everything about her pisses me off. Her smug attitude, her bitchy slut face, her obnoxious parry, her terrible animations, her bullshit safe launchers, her SAFE HIGH CRUSHING LOW THAT TURNS INTO A HITGRAB ON CH

I still don't dodge because the more I fight them the sooner I learn how to deal with her shit but god damn.

>>183665719
Perfectly fine on pad. You can even bind button combinations to shoulder and triggers if that makes it easier for you. Also tournament viable if you some day go that route.

>>183665913
>>183665964
>>183665968
>>183666050

Thanks. Question related to Josie. One of the only things I do know about fighting games is the character archetypes like grappler, charger, etc. What type of character is she?

>>183666102
there's no real archetypes in tekken like there are in 2d games but I guess you could say she's rushdown

>>183666102
she's a mashing ape type of character
a silverback gorilla

>>183666102
Rushdown I guess.

>>183666196
>>183666296
Nice, I think I'd be an aggressive sort of player.

>>183666242
Silverback gorillas are fucking awesome.

>have low IQ
>play high IQ characters

Am I killing myself?

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>take Heihachi to juggernaut
>switch character
>get 3-0'd by green ranks

>>183667493
you're greatly overestimating your fundamentals

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Paul is the natural choice for little girls new to the game.

>>183665964
You heard it hear first, folks: Paul is so fucking easy you don't even have to claw the pad.

fuck this game

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I got a problem /tekgen/

There are times in online where I would get a punish launcher or counter hit off but, since I didnt know if it was going to make it's mark since, I usually predict they'll block I dont follow up or commit to it. Usually throwing away chances to get big damage in. And if I do try and commit and they block it they'll get a free hit since I let my guard down. So naturally I always assume to never really follow through since I think they'll block it.

Anyway to fix this? Is it just something I learn as time goes on?

>>183667614
me when i get home from work and get drunk and play Paul

>>183667825
first of all you shouldn't be throwing out random ass launchers all that much
second, you have plenty of time to see if it hits and react unless you're asleep or something

>tfw I still haven't gotten any hate mail

>>183655357
That is the visual reaction time, auditory reaction time is way faster. When i last tested mine i was down to 65ms. Leatn what moves you can hear.

>>183647494
Used to do the former but I'm learning to focus on the opponent after getting caught by Law's stoner stance one too many times on approach.

>>183668015
>stoner stance
I want arisfags to drink his bong water somewhere else

>>183667802
Did you quote the wrong one?

>>183667825
Training mode.
CPU action 1: Random Guard

Do mixup pressure on the dummy between your launcher and lows you use to open people up. Do it until you successfully combo 5 times after the launcher. Repeat daily.

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Kill me please

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>>183667975
I play King on PC and PS4 and I only get friend requests and comments telling me I'm a good King player. Blows my mind.

>>183666102
Alright so, a big thing that separates Tekken from 2D fighting games is the lack of super polarizing archtypes like in 2D games. There are still archtypes, but they intermingle more than say Zangief and Guile who have little to nothing in common.

Josie is a rushdown character who gets in your face with strings that mix high and low hitting strikes so she can open you up easy with relentless pressure, and she can whiff punish the shit out of you for monster damage.

Here's a link to a guide on her, it's on reddit but it's a pretty good one and I recommend all hopeful Josie's take a look at it. https://www.reddit.com/r/Tekken/comments/6n98rc/josie_guide/

Want to start smaller? Here's a link of every characters best basic moves https://drunkardshade.com/2017/05/27/tekken-7-top-15-moves-for-all-characters/ take a look at Josie's and see what you think

Fergus, an EU Tekken player, made an overview of all the characters in the game with abstracts on them and what their strengths and weaknesses are. Here's a link to that overview, and the one on Josie specifically https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yqgxbES6su4clpQou2hzlZN40rpPBtwmMRKWfexbj3g/edit

This should be more than enough to get your foot in the door. The most important thing with Tekken is to learn what your moves are and how to pilot your character. Juggles should come later, figure out what your basic punishes are and your go to tools.

>>183668106
Keep trying - you will improve anon. This is a really hard game full of players who have been playing for years. Just focus on having fun, play every couple of days and you will rise in ranks without much effort.

>tfw play Eliza
>think I would get tons of hate mail for not playing Tekken
>instead receive ggs and tips on how to better handle pressure

Why are people too nice in this game? I received more hate mail in Tag 2 in the same amount of time I've spent playing 7.

>>183668074
YUP. Meant to quote this doofus >>183665913
Is Paul really that easy that you can just play him holding the controller with your big dumb thumbs?

>>183667614
What's the name of this one again? I wanted to read it but ended up forgetting

>>183668289
you can play any character in the game with a regular grip on pad, the fuck you on about
all the troublesome inputs like 1+2, 3+4, 1+3 and 2+4 can be macroed to the shoulder buttons

>>183668404
paul doesn't even have any troublesome inputs. what would you even need to macro?

>>183668289
I play every character without claw. That's what binds are for.

>>183668446
I wasn't talking about Paul

>>183668450
i'm just saying paul is so easy that you don't even have to macro anything.

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>>183668290

>>183668495
i'm talking about paul. the whole point of my post originally was to talk about how stupid paul is because he's so easy you don't even have to macro anything as him if you play on pad.

>>183668527
in what universe does paul not need 1+2 and 3+4

>>183668609
a universe where demoman can just be mashed out

Curious. What game Introduced low parries? Or were they always there?

>>183668658
what the actual fuck are you talking about
paul is easy because you can demoman on pad what?

your entire point makes 0 sense, every single character plays perfectly fine on pad, including mishimas