/lisg/ - Life is Strange General #530

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BFFs, Pirates, Wonder Twins, Partners in Time & Crime & Love, Fellow Dorks, GFs, Wives.
OTP.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhvZxmgLfNA

What are you playing to pass the time until BtS?

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They're going to raise hell

BAE > bay
Max did nothing wrong and is a good person

>>183655269
Somebody to mend you edition?
more like somebody to MEME you with that last edition, am i rite?

>>183655547
I don't play a lot of video games anymore but I am trying out DOOM. My job is the one making the days go fast.

>>183655608
Chloe acting like a real pirate! Hopefully Joyce can handle them both.

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So anon why haven't you handed in your photo yet?

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>>183655547
DCS
It's just as comfy believe me

>>183656013
eat shit and die

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Max is #1

>>183655547
After i played LiS i sort of havent been playing games and just listening to music.
But recently ive been playing somethings like new vegas or gta4 and 5.

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>>183656013
Here Jeffie, and think you'll like this shot, it's pretty mind-blowing

>>183655547
until dawn for the past 2 days, it's free on ps plus but harror isn't really my favorite type of games

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>>183655547
Total war. Also watching twin peaks. Funny the amount of similarities and references to it in Life is Strange. Chloes license plate is even twin peaks. Makes me wonder if she is a fan of the show. I can see her trying to get max hooked on it.

>>183655547
>spent nearly 3k with PC parts
>suddenly feel no will to play games
JUST...

>>183655547
Got back into War Thunder recently after a two year break. It's fun but just as aggravating as I remember it.

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>>183655269
Before Episode 5's release:
>Lol Mari's theories're shitty.It's way more than shitty to become true
>Chloe has to die thing doesn't make sense.Don't worry they will come with unpredictable story
>We're gonna learn everything about Max's powers,Rachel and Prescotts even Nathan,spirit animals..
>Jefferson knows about Max's powers
>Nathan,Frank,David or Samuel's gonna save us
>Victoria's with Max,she'll save her
>(After seeing Cemetery scene from leaks) I'm sure it'll be Williams,Rachel's or Kate's grave.
>Rachel's the doe and Butterfly and probably we'll see her in Max's dream
>Blue Jay's Chloe

After Episode 5's release:
>Mari's shitty cliche theory became right
>We visited the SF art gallery for 3 seconds. FOR 3 DAMN SECONDS
>Jefferson became a silly bad guy from Disney
>David came to save us.He's a former-soldier but he can't even fight,just listens teenager's orders. Even he doesn't know she has some time travel powers.
>Victoria's with us in the dark room.Laying there and we can talk her or not.Just it.
>Nathan get killed,Victoria too
>Nathan knew something about the storm but they cut it.
>Warren explained Max's powers(!)(thanks warryn) We found out her power causes/related with Chaos Theory and storm.It's not like we didn't know or something.
>Storm is only coming for Bay because Chloe lives in there but Max's the one who keep changes the time
>Prescotts story erased.Nobody even mention their name.
>Rachel's story fucked too.She isn't or butterfly,bluejay just spiritualdoe
>Spirit animals thing died.Blue Butterfly's storm summoner just it.
>Chloe dies again in one of endings (unpredictable) It gives you a lesson: You shouldn't have used your power.And you shouldn't play this game.Now erase your choices and cry like a bitch.
>Chloe has to die thing comes true, Cemetery scene explained with that.
>The other ending's short but it's less cliché than other.We saved Chloe,storm's hit the town and gone.That's it

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>>183656461
She'd be all over the soundtrack, that's for sure
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGUboLZx3Tk
>At night I'm driving in your car
>Pretending that we'll leave this town
>We're watching all the streetlights fade
>And now you're just a strangers dream
>I took your picture from the frame
>And now you're nothing like you seem
>Your shadow fell like last night's rain
Pretty much sums up her relationship with Rachel beat for beat

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IT'S SHARK WEEK!
That means Chloe watching lots of shows and being amazed, and Max feeling nervous about stepping into any room in their place with a TV.
But if she does decide to sit down and watch, then Chloe will be there to comfort her.
Just remember, sharks are known to eat otters...

>>183656893
MY NIGGA, I LOVE CHROMATICS.

>>183656935
I can't be the only one who thought "what's this? An otter in my wster" sounded pretty lewd the way Chloe said it.

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Fly me to the moon...

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As Max and Chloe are leaving the ruins of Arcadia Bay behind, there's one more tragic story unfolding
>Alice and Lisa stuck in Max's room, Alice hasn't eaten anything in days, the dorms are destroyed and no one comes looking for them
>"No one's gonna come save us, this is the end, we'll starve to death..."
>Alice...you can survive this and go back to your owner. All you have to do is... all you have to do is eat me."
>"What? No, fuck that. Lisa, you're my number one priority, I'm not eating you!"
>"Alice, think about it... how many times this week did you try to nibble my leafs? I'm a plant, Alice, you're a bunny, maybe it's time I accept my destiny... OUR destiny."
>"Lisa, I can't make this choice!"
>"No Alice, you're the only one who can"

>eat Lisa
https://instaud.io/kVV

>eat your own foot
https://instaud.io/kWb

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>>183656935
Nah, she and Max will watch through the third "IS MEGALADON STILL ALIVE???" show before giving up and taking Max to the pool to show her some "real shark behavior"
>>183657017
Fuck yeah, Chromatics is the shit.
After I watched the BtS trailer I immediately thought of The River (Symmetry's version) because of how similar it was to the lyrics and atmosphere
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7luHW9uYBCM

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>>183657206
that's when I KNEW

>>183657206
It was definitely flirty. Especially when you remember the graffiti in/around the pool building that was almost certainly Chloe's doing.
>The shark eating the otter outside
>"Otters eat beavers" in the female locker room
It really does make me think that Chloe was on the swim team and spent a good amount of time in that building, and it was the one thing she missed about the school. That's probably not canon, but I really like the idea.
Ashly delivery throughout the entire pool scene was simple amazing. I hope Rhianna can give her own good performance for Chloe, which it seems she can based on the few scenes.

Turn on the lights, I want to see the sharks.

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Remember: DONTNOD followed George Lucas's way of writing.

>Episode 5 is so dense, it has so much going on.
>The bathroom is the key to everything.
>The ending is stylistically designed to be that way.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxU2eqZtYmc

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>>183657628
Those shows are hella bullshit. I just want to learn about different species and see cool footage of them.
Not poorly photoshopped "historical", "newly found", and "never before seen" pictures and video.
If it's going to be like that then I can't blame Chloe for walking away to go to do stuff with Max, not that she would ever neglect her girlfriend in the first place. Maybe they could just go to an Aquarium.

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>>183657628
>I watch the moon hang in the sky
>I feel the traffic rushing by
>Freight train engine in the night
>I'm still here waiting for you
Huh, you weren't kidding

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Are Max Payne and Max Caulfield connected?
Both have time powers
Both say edgy things.
Both are sort of emo.
Both of there names are Max.

>Time mores forwards and nothing changes.

>>183658945
>Both have time powers
Payne has quick reflexes as shown in the comics
>Both say edgy things.
Caulfield doesn't
>Both are sort of emo
Caulfield isn't
>Both of there names are Max
Fuck, you're right tho, they must be siblings or something

>>183659223
If you were looking at someone who had time powers you would just see it as quick reflexes.

I WANT MORE CHLOE NOW

>>183659330
Not when they teleport behind you/tell you what's in your pockets.

>>183659330
Teleporting, accurately predicting the future, and telling people they have time travel powers are not "quick reflexes". Being able to pull the trigger faster than other goons is.

>>183658945
Max isn't edgy or emo.

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>>183659335
Chloe is a cute

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On the topic of character comparisons, Jessica Jones is pretty much a Pricefield child. She embodies characteristics of both Max and Chloe
>Loves being a photographer and taking pictures
>Has powers she'd rather not have
>Uses her powers almost exclusively to help others
>Dry and sarcastic, but has a heart of gold
>Had a tragic background that traumatized her and is less trustworthy of people as a result
>Has a BFF (Trish) that she cares about above all (cept she's not gay)

>>183659836
Damn right she is!

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Its sad to know pure love like this doesnt actually exist.

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>blue butterfly was spirit
>blue butterfly was Chloe it taught us lesson:)
>it ISN't definitely ''storm summoner'' or wasn't there for foreshadowing storm
yeah fuck that.
if there would be a sequel Bayfags 100% would be BTFO'd after this ending.

Take the worst situations
Make a worse situation
Follow me home, pretend you
Found somebody to mend you

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>>183660242
If I were Jessica, I'd be gay for Trish in a heartbeat.

Here's some on-theme noir.

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Nightly reminder that they made the more complete ending for the wrong ending.
We all hate bay ending but i have to admit it feels like an actual wrap up while bae ending feels very open ended.
Its a shame that the open endedness of the bae ending isnt going to be picked up on ever again. Thanks dontnod!

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>>183662920
>I hate Bay ending but...
but...you're a shit-eater

>>183662920
Not really since once you think about it you realize precisely why that ending wouldn't work.
Even if the storm was stopped then, Max could do something else and cause another. what will she be asked to give up then?
If it's an ending then it's one where most of the main characters end up dead, a bad ending where nothing is learned and nobody is helped.

>>183663531
Im not talking about it in that context.
Im talking about a story ending context.
The put more effort into the bay ending scenes than they even put thought into the bae ending.
Bay ending is a lot longer and has more detail the bae ending just doesnt have.
My argument isnt its the correct ending my argument is the fact that its more polished and to the writers it probably makes the most sense.

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>>183662920 >>183663643
>bay ending is canon because it's 2 mins longer than the other one even if characters were standing there like moron in funeral and only Joyce,David,Max could barely show emotion
>bay ending is canon because they added some different character models
>bay ending is canon because it was more depressed,emotional,suicidal,it gave us lesson that's why I cried thank you dontnod
>bae ending is just a fanservice (even it has been there in leaks since Episode 1)

Emotions yadda yadda.

What about the meaning of Spanish Sahara song?
What about the context? Changing past was bad, they said. Then we're running away from our consequences and trying to make things perfect(!), this is good ending even if we're not doing shit while our loved one's dying there,bleeding alone in there yeah.
What about the time-travel which everybody's forgetting about? Who cares. Who did even pay attention to it right?
What about Max's mental health after this ending? Oh wait, even if Max's latest thoughts fully focused/obsessed on Chloe and she was just starting to resolve her love for Chloe, to all Bayfags she'll be in love triangle between Nathan/Warren so it makes sense to them yup.
What about Max's not ripping the blue butterfly photo up in this ending and still keeping two major photos which can easily save Chloe in first place? Nobody pay attention to it, as always. Because this game was all about those binary choices, don't use your brain, and move on.

>>183663643
>Bay ending is a lot longer and has more detail the bae ending just doesnt have.
heree we go.
just because it was 2 mins longer than the other one (and this was just because they're using old location like bathroom,so it wasn't hard for them) doesn't make it canon,superior choice. to me they didn't made effort for either endings' consclucion because whole plot about ending was shit.

>>183663643
In the story's context, it has no place. You can say it's longer and has more content, and certainly that is correct, but it's all for naught.
The devs put more time into it but those who put time into paying attention to the game will realize it's all a waste. It wouldn't change anything because with that ending it's then established that the universe can throw a fit whenever it wants and it would just set Max up for failure.
It feels like a cop out, which is fitting because that's exactly what it is.
The Bay Ending may have 10 or so minutes to support it, but the Bae Ending has a whole five episodes to back it.

>>183663643
I don't know if I'm the only one who is thinking this but funeral scene was complete failure and obviously half assed. I was expecting Max to say something, to Chloe's honour, at least from her inner dialogue.

Only seeing Joyce suffering there made me kinda emotional. The only other things were cliché, half of other teenagers,Wells was there but there was nobody else which was too forced. I mean doesn't Joyce/David have neighbours,friends and shit.

And this ending was also open ending for me. Still leaving the door open for Max's going back into time to come up with better consclucion where she saves her gf and town.

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>>183663879
>>183664057
>>183664173

ARE YOU NIGGERS LITERALLY RETARDED?
ONCE AGAIN, HELLO, I DIDNT SAY THATS THE CANON ENDING, I SIMPLY SAID MORE EFFORT WENT INTO THE BAY ENDING AND I WISHED WE GOT THAT MUCH EFFORT AND POLISH AND A WRAPPING UP OF THE STORY FOR THE BAE ENDING.
You fucking retards are bitching and complaining about text that isnt there that i already corrected you on. Jesus christ. Whats this called selective hearing or seeing, or just being plain out fucking retarded?

>>183664407
You said the writers probably think its the more sensical ending, which would imply its more canon than bae

>>183664407
and I was saying who cares if it was 2 mins longer than the other one because it was still thematically,physically shit. they couldn't even direct an exact funeral scene. just because it was emotional doesn't mean I'll think they made effort for this ending. because endings' context were totally shit and one of them's being emotional doesn't cover it up.

Both endings are shit.

>>183664407
Stupid dumb frogposter

>>183664407
>bay ending felt more complete even if it's wrong ehm:)
At least stand behind your own words during in an argument

>>183664554
Yeah i said that because its true. I think the writers dont know what they are doing and im sure most of the think they were writing a very obvious story. I honestly think it the writers minds they truly believe in their canon that they proved to us that the storm wasnt coming after bay ending.

I think a lot of the plotholes in the game concerning the storm and why its still coming after chloe dies again and again and the fact that when we save william it has no effect on the world.

The writters are honestly fucking retarded and we may think and hope these are hints are the storm not being max's fault but lets face it, the writers are frenchies that wouldnt know subtlety story telling if it crawled onto their escargot and fucking died.

Someone put it to me one time.
"Sure you may see all these plotholes but i really think in the writers universe that they honestly believe and also want the player to believe that reversing time to let chloe die makes the most sense."

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>>183664674
True, there absolutely no reason a choice had to be made then, but only Bae leaves room for an actually good ending to take place.
One where Max still has her photos and can go back to warn more people with Chloe or where they can find a way to stop the storm entirely without resorting to undoing every change (but not really).

The Bay Ending exists and gives more closure because those who chose is literally cannot think for themselves.
They need the characters to say something before they can believe it, they need everything spelled out for them, they are incapable of picking up clues that are trying to suggest something completely different to the narrative spoken by those who wouldn't know the truth. They are sheep who are led to the slaughter because they are told it is the right thing to do.
They do not get a happy ending or one with possibilities because they do not deserve one.
They lack imagination.

>>183664852
>they proved to us that the storm wasnt coming after bay ending.
No they clearly didn't. Actually they left the biggest telltale sign that Max didn't rip that butterfly photo up for starters. And everybody's ignoring this fact: this is a fucking time-travel game and anything may happen in any time.

>"Sure you may see all these plotholes but i really think in the writers universe that they honestly believe and also want the player to believe that reversing time to let chloe die makes the most sense."

Just because the other one was 2 mins longer than the other one? Then why the hell they put the other ending (which was their first intention all along)
If anything, they changed original Bay ending (they were gonna put Chloe to the coma in there) during the development of Episode 4, because if they'd put Chloe to coma it'd leave door open for her being alive, and to not make the other ending pointless they decided to kill her there. (this evidence also gave us biggest clue that storm isn't obssessed with Chloe's survival or not, devs' intentions only focused on our bathroom actions)

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All the plotholes in the game were more than likely just plotholes the writers forgot to remove in post production. As much as would love for the plotholes to be hints that something else behind the scenes is going on, its more than likely not.
We the fans see both endings in areas of grey but trust me the fucking writers see it as black and white.

>Oh about 1000 people died.

Literally pulls a number out of his ass
more than likely didnt research tornadoes before writing one in.

Sure the writers were brillant when it came to developing characters and making them charming and likeable. but for developing there own story they are clueless. ill bet you not a single one of them gave a second thought to the fact that reversing time would again IF max did cause the storm would of caused an even bigger cluster fuck.

The chat isnt me. but it is you know who.

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>>183664852
> I honestly think it the writers minds they truly believe in their canon that they proved to us that the storm wasnt coming after bay ending.
did they,really?

>>183665264
When did anyone say 1,000 people died? I've never seen any writers say that. They won't even say who did die.
Michels has said every single person's fate is left ambiguous. They could be alive or they could be dead, though obviously at least a few died since we see covered bodies. The ending isn't about numbers, it's about risks and loyalty.
Do you let something bad (Chloe dying) happen to *possibly* stop an even worse thing (Multiple people dying in the storm)? Or do you save what you save one life (Chloe) that would surely be lost and hope that everyone whose fate is not yet determined makes it out on their own? The Trolley problem where only one track has anyone actually tied to it.

It would be extremely easy to have removed the inconsistencies and had the two choices they wanted with no doubts or contradictions. They created much elaborate ideas and possibilities and then did nothing with them, dropping them at the last moment to drop the most basic interpretation of the story on the player.

>>183664852
Both of endings are results of ''muh budget''. Obviously they rushed things with Episode 4's release that's why there were many plot-holes.
By the way, if they really wanted to make one of endings canon then they'd delete Bae ending from game in first place because that was the ONLY ending that thematically fits to their story because they didn't change its context at all it was clearly their FIRST INTENTION.

I can't really see ''effort'' in Bay ending neither (unless if you call these things as effort: photo focus section where you're undoing everything,some skins for characters(some of them didn't really show up in scene),only one new location,moronic funeral without any meaningful dialogue) Context was shit on the bed, that's another story.

>>183665517
It may be my distaste for the french speaking when i say this but as much in my head canon that the plotholes and stuff like this are hints i do not actually believe the writers intended this.
I think they intended it to be a very vanilla experience, and i believe they intended their story to show sacrificing for the "greater" good is the adult and mature thing to do. Because its what stupid writers do and Michel Koch
and Jean-Luc Cano are stupid who believe in the greater good meme.

Im serious the fact they are french has a lot to do with fact im shitting on them, not because of left or right wing but a lot of European adults believe in the "greater good" meme that society has molded them by.

To them, like most normies, believe that letting the tornado hit the bay is the "bad' ending, and the Max killing chloe not only prevents the storm but also shows Max "Mature into adulthood" its a story about conforming in their mind.

>>183665264
>Oh about 1000 people died.
Those are bayfags' words. Actually they believe EVERYONE died.

Months later Michel outrightly said ''they left other characters' fate blurry''

>>183665685
I made a mistake, i thought the picture i linked was where it was saying that line, but it wasnt. I THOUGHT i had saved it but i guess i didnt, but i can assure you its out there. I saw it before, it was some interview or some messages or tweets he had between fans.

>>183665918
nah anon. Michel might be stupid in past for representing a retarded binary consclucion like this, but he was also the one who clearly admitted that there are no bad or good choice. those were all bayfags' retarded assumptions really.

>and i believe they intended their story to show sacrificing for the "greater" good is the adult and mature thing to do.
developers never said this (again except bayfags) but if they ever would, then we can easily refute this retarded interpreation because there's no sacrifice yourself option. so there's no greater good choice in there. because both endings are including death.

choices are obviously about would you save: ''your loved one'' or ''town''.

I don't really like ending debates because bayfags love to measure people's lives as if they are fucking robots. these endings were different than that cold-blooded interpreations.

>>183665918
>interpretting endings as political states
?? I'll pretend like I didn't see that.

There's literally no bad or good ending and in they were saying this in their every interviews.
But baytfags, as you said, are the only ones that who are bullshitting about it, and they are missing the entire point obviously.

>>183665918
>Max killing chloe not only prevents the storm but also shows Max "Mature into adulthood

This is why Bay ending's theme is shit on the bed.
In real life we can't change things, or go back into time to fix our mistakes. Max made her very first decision in bathroom, she saved *that girl's life* in first place.
What does Bay ending wants us to do? It wants us to undo this action, or storm will be hit the town to fix nature's balance.

Now I'm asking, how come is this gives us a ''grown-up'' message while by undoing those action we're technically playing-god again? This is outrightly saying that ''running away from consequences'' because you're running away from that responsibility, you're giving up. How come is this ''mature into adulthood'' message?

>>183666001
I don't ever remember seeing that and it defies everything he said in the image you did post. I think you may be confusing it with things idiot players have said about the storm, including one "Meteorologist" who said it would be more destructive than an atomic bomb and tried to use 'facts' to back it up. But as far as I can remember, Michel, Luc, Christian, and everyone
else at DONTNOD has never said a number. Just that the storm happening allows Max and Chloe to move on in life together.

When it comes to the game, I've always taken the word "sacrifice" as synonymous with risk.
We may have had a good idea that Chloe would die in the "Sacrifice Chloe" ending, but we didn't know for sure- maybe she would have survived and getting shot without interference would mean no storm.
I wasn't prepared to risk that and see Chloe possibly die and to undo everything else did Max that week to help people and solve mysteries. because in that case, even if Chloe does survive, Max is left with memories of things nobody else knows about and so it wouldn't be possible to adequately support her.

>>183664852
they may end the game right there but every evidence,symbolism in-game supports that storm will 100% come after bay ending.

>>183666181
>>183666452

I just think the writers are bayfags and as much as I want to believe they arent, they more than likely are and they see our struggle trying to justify their plotholes are hints to something greater as something "cute"

If they werent bayfags they wouldnt be trying so hard to constantly appease both sides of the fanbase.actually let me correct that...

They wouldnt try so hard to appease the other 10-30% of the fan base and start recognizing just how many people are bae ending pricefielders which is a majority of their fan base.

They use the term "Use your imagination" because they are shocked at the response they got from the game, They are bayfags with a 80% baefags player base and they are faking smiles and are backed into a corner because they know that telling us the truth or what they really think will of course piss of 80% of their fan base.
Why do you think they are making a LiS2 thats not going to involve max or chloe? The bae ending was very open to more adventures and stories and even learning the fate of the town.

But nah "The story has been told"
"new cast of characters"
They are indirectly implying the bay ending by doing this.
Because of the idea that Max isnt interesting enough as a character now to continue to explore because the bay ending happened and she is now a "mature" and responsible person in there eyes.

>>183667253
The writers and devs may have their own feelings but officially there is no canon ending. That is what matters.
They would never do anything to cement on choice over another. So it doesn't matter if they are bae or bay.
And as much as I wish that were true, there's not 80% bae in the fanbase, they sit at roughly 50/50. Though people who picked bae seem more attached to the game and willing to linger on it and discuss it, bay people caused their damage to Max and then walked away thinking they fixed everything.

Let's be all honest, all of this fuckery about endings aside, Max really wanted to save Chloe and keep her by her side (even her subconscious was kinda telling this)
And she totally won't be okay after Bay ending.

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>>183667253
Even so, we gave them to their lessons. At least they're not making damage control and admit such things they were whinning about in past.

>>183667427
>max would be an absolute mental wreck after the bay ending, and she wouldnt have chloe to help her get through it, and she couldnt even get proper therapy because no one would believe why she's so fucked up

>>183667427
We all know that. Max would be wreck, Joyce and David would just die out of depression.
At the absolute most, Max would last a few days before going back to jump into Chloe's arms.

>>183667397
>Though people who picked bae seem more attached to the game and willing to linger on it and discuss it
This is true. Remember when Episode 5 was newly released, the first group of people who are really passionate about this game played the game first and bae was in favor.

Then with SE's strategies steam sale etc. etc. people who don't really involved with this game started to play, they didn't attached into the story as much as other people do,missed most of details. The only thing they do at the end was ''ah greater choice,bay, okay choosing it *deletes the game from his hdd*

Lis2 with out max and chloe implies that the writers are bayfags.

Its like setting a media in a universe where spiderman exists but then the real story is about a highschool in the midwest of America somewhere. Spider man isnt shown or even talked about but the title is still called "Spider man"

Max and Chloe are the mascots of LiS they are LiS.
Just as spiderman is the mascot of spiderman.

Max is now a character in the universe of LiS, a literal super hero. to say her "story has been told" is absolutely ludicrous considering someone with that amount of power and responsibility.
Basically what LiS should be
>LiS season 1 Max coming of age story with super power
>LiS season 2 Max now a young adult learning how adulthood will effect her power and responsibilities does she use her power to benafit society or does she use it to keep herself and the ones she loves safe?.
>LiS season 3 Max once again trying to figure out how to use her powers as she gets gets into her mid to late 20s.

And at the very end of the story we would see Max finally lose her power. No matter if you got a good or bad ending Max would lose her power and there for finally make her an "irrelevant player" universe, Then the writers would be free to work on another LiS project with out max.

Hell it doesnt even have to be 3 seasons, just 2. But the point im trying to make is its HELLA stupid to just straight up ABANDON a character who has a literal world shaping ability and instead focus on trying to make your IP more like Twinpeaks meets American Horror Story and Fargo, its just wrong, and implies the writers are not only bayfags but they are also really patting themselves on the back for being "artsy".

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>>183667427
>the very first selfie in classroom
>the blue butterfly photo which hasn't ripped
So even if those beta fuckers forced her to do that choice, seconds later our girl Max would use her brain and would do anything to get her girl back asap.

because that's what she did in entire game. she cuck'd all of those betafags who are thinking she's some blank-slate character.

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>>183668121
the hell are you even talking about?

>>183668121
>Max and Chloe are the mascots of LiS they are LiS
>what is an anthology series

>>183668121
They are LiS as of right now, and they will always be a part of LiS. But they don't need to be the focus and the second game could set itself apart as different but still good.
We all love Max and Chloe as characters and want to see more of them, but it's not possible. Not as of right now. Besides, if DONTNOD botched the story/ending so badly, then why let them torture Max and Chloe even more?
With new characters they have a blank slate and can hopefully do a better job with the story this time around. It will show if they really did listen and improve as writers, or if they're amateurs who cannot live up to their own ideas.
There's plenty of continuations of Max's and Chloe's story through art, videos, and fics. Seeing as how the fans seem to understand things better then perhaps that's for the best.

>LiS s3 will be about Max
>at the start it'll ask you if you picked bay or bae
>if you pick bay, it starts a day after Chloe's funeral, with Max realizing she cant live with the choice she's made, and needs to find a way to save everyone
>if you pick bae, it starts a day after Max and Chloe leave the ruins of Arcadia Bay, and both Max and Chloe come up with a plan for Max to go back and save everyone

choices matter

>Max messing around with time is what caused the storm in the first place
>Max going back in time to mess with it again somehow prevents the storm from happening

?

>>183669019
two wrongs makes a right, everyone knows that

>>183668906
be more realistic.

>with Bay-save, see Max while she ended up in mental asylum or already focused on butterfly photo and found a way to get her girl again
>with Bae-save, see Max while she was kissing,flirting with Chloe while they were playing hide & seek in waterfalls

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>>183669019
>prevents the storm
the right word is ''delayed'' anon.

>>183668639
>if DONTNOD botched the story/ending so badly, then why let them torture Max and Chloe even more?

Because i fear what LiS2 has to offer.
Its hard to strike gold twice.
And even if they do strike gold with a character its going to feel like a miss opportunity.
I dont see how they can have a totally new protagonist while also not having them go through the same arcs and journey.
I see Season 2 making the mistake of having a character too similar to max and chloe with out calling the max and chloe.

Any cozy and fun interactions are going to feel like missed opportunities to fans.

Im setting my expectations really low for LiS2 and really high for BtS.

>>183669291
>my expectations really low for LiS2
ngl, same here. because i did opposite thing for episode 5 and its endings and it didn't go well for me. (we all knew how is it gonna end and decided to save Chloe at all cost but hoping that maybe they'd change those endings, made things even worse as result)

>>183669291
>Im setting my expectations really low for LiS2 and really high for BtS.

I havent set my expectations high for any game since BW fucked me in the ass with ME3. Now I just live in a constant state of pessimism, so games will either just be as bad as expected, or pleasantly surprise me.

Its kind of sad what a cynical bastard I've become, I used to be an eternal optimist

>>183669562
Pretty much this.

I guess i have a hope that if they keep Max and Chloe around and devlop them more it could be just as fun and magical as season 1.
Rather than "Risking it" and it being a bad game.
I guess i just feel pricefield could be the saving grace of the series. maybe im wrong and it wouldnt matter ether way and season 2 would be crap no matter what.

Also i can hardly imagine burch and telle being interested to continue.
Things would be easier if LiS was a Comic or actually a complete novel rather than a game,

>>183669771
They already stated that Max and Chloe's story had over, after the farewell episode.

>>183669771
Hannah said she'd voice Max again in a heartbeat. Ashly would probably voice Chloe, barring any strikes, again but she's also of the thought that Chloe had to die. Using her own experiences which make sense in real life, but not in a game where you can change 'fate' and save a loved one.
I don't have any hope of seeing Max and Chloe again in a game as of now. Maybe after S2 then DONTNOD will feel comfortable with bringing them back and actually have an idea.
If not, then we've already reached our own conclusions and made the ending as good as possible by using the vagueness to our advantage.

>>183669771
>>183670010
there's still retarded live-action movie coming though. possibly they will also fuck up game's originality so there's also that

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>>183670010

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They're alright. We helped them get to the point where they were confident and realized their love. They can look after and take care of themselves and each other.
Their friends and family are there for them as well.

>>183670064
I don't even think Ashly was talking about the game at that point.

>>183670097
If that ever even happens then it probably won't be anything new. Just a re-telling of the game's story but with even less charm and mystery because there's no exploration or choices.
I just hope it doesn't end with the Bay Ending and then have idiots saying that it's canon.

>>183670280
Because she definitely wasn't. She was fully focused on her past experience irl right there.

>>183670317
>>183670097
Let's all face it... I really love Max and Chloe more than anything. But this live-action's gonna be a shit.
Because LiS was already a movie-tier game, and there's literally no point in turning that into a fucking movie because we know what'll happen in every scenarios.
And those fuckers know (should know at least), what'll happen if they make bay ending canon, because the other 50% fandom was really more caring about this game while the other shit-eater ignorant cucks don't know anything about this story,can't even make a reasonable argument. I don't think they'd do such stupid thing like that though.

>>183670640
>But this live-action's gonna be a shit.
Well you're preaching the choir anon so that's for sure. The idea itself is a complete failure begin with

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>10

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>>183670640
>making the most retarded ending canon
they better prepare themselves for the massive shit storm then

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>mfw i chose the bay ending because i didn't even knew /lisg/ existed and it was my first ever telltale game and i was not paying attention to the dairy and all the things happening

>regret

>>183674551
do a second playthrough and redeem yourself

>>183674551
as long as you realize you made a mistake

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>>183674551
>/lisg/ knew everything from the start, still thinking bay ending would be the most illogical choice ever and they were right about it.

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>>183674765
Now it's time to predict BtS's endings.

I'm gonna tell you right now though, I have 0 hope for those endings. But nothing can be worse than episode 5 so...

>>183674975
Rachel dies, Max comes back, and some storm comes. Screencap this

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>>183674975
>''prequel''
>multiple endings depending choices on you make
>while your choices didn't even make heavy impact on the original game

actually this really isn't a big deal. I really don't give a fuck about our choices' not matter because characters are solid and story is solid it's all good. if endings' consclucion would be well-written, and they wouldn't go this ''baby's first time-travel cliché'' I wouldn't even complain about those binary choices.
but I can't understand their insisting on lying about ''your choices matter'' bullshit. they even telling this lie for prequel, what the fuck.

>>183674975
We already know, BtS is all about the Friendship between chloe and Rachel and what led to her sudden disappearance

>>183675198
They brainwashing their retarded audience well though: ''my max did this, my max did that in my playthrough'' etc. etc. As if Max was some blank rpg character.They obviously didn't pay attention to Max's diary so makes sense.

Funny thing is people now seriously arguing about Chloe didn't have crush on Rachel and in prequel we can actually change it while canon game obviously says otherwise.

>inb4 my Rachel married with Nathan in my playthrough.

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>game called: Before the storm
>so LiS universe is always take Max's saving Chloe in bathroom canon, this era also will be in a time-loop and in all universes Max'll save Chloe's life in there
baYtfags btfo'd so hard

>>183676057
Bayfags will just claim it's a "figure of speech" and claim the storm in "Storm" could mean anything

>>183674975
>Now it's time to predict BtS's endings

Is there a way to stop running after Rachel and buying bus ticket to go Seattle and professing our undying love for Max?

>>183676406
they can squirm all they want but it's just pointless like their whole arguments.

i mean storm is obviously 'that magical storm', and it's undeniable that some supernatural shit was going on in Arcadia bay.
how can you even interpret otherwise kek.

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>>183675815
They are making good arguments though. all of them make sense(!)

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>>183677106
>*tell the truth*
>no disrespect but.. why you bash the game? get out of your feelings you haven't even played the game yet hurr durr developers are my love. my choices matter
this is why I despise yt/reddit comments.

>>183677106
>I can change things in prequel
okay then please do it.
with that BtS's save file (which will affect past and future,as your dearest developers say), you will able to replay LiS again, but this time with different story where you get 14 different endings at the end.

can you recommend a video about LiS that is not a gameplay? i mean analysis or something similar

>>183678347
>inb4 that life is tumblr vid is posted

>>183678347
i don't really recommend any of those videos.

literally none of them make sense

>>183678924
i really like this one and i meant similar to this

https://youtu.be/19xgdLF5agU

>>183678347
If you insist.

This girl is Dontnod's golden-girl. Her major two retarded theories became right. R*ddit is dying for her theories. Let me introduce you with Season 2's secret lead-writer,queen... MARI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fn8U16SKuc

>>183679059
>funeral scene doesn't even make sense..
i was finally about to be happy and say ''finally someone who agrees with me!'' then everything went retarded again when he said ''hueheh the other ending is conveciable,longer one,proper ending and game's ending is about who do you measure the most bay or bae,it doesn't even matter if you don't love Chloe..''

endings were all about ''your loved one'' vs ''town'' for fuck's sake.


>>183679165
delete this right now.

>>183679059
I don't really want to be rude but, this is shit. Just as the other videos.
I want a proper video, where people talks,explains about non-sense of time-travel in this game/context of this game. Not making statements like ''this ending is better because this one is 2 mins longer than the other one'' .. fuck that. I don't really give a damn about it's being 2 mins longer.

When will this general make Shit Ain't Logical & Bae video?

>>183680024
well yeah he seems to go off track as the video progress but i agree with the first 10 minutes

>>183679059
yeah, still non-sense.
the only thing I can agree with this dude is endings' being shit, but that's just it.

Do you have a Chloe in your life?

>>183680432
I tried to give him a chance again. Here's what I got:
>he related Chloe with wild love /unpredictable girlfriend
>he related Warryn with 'wholesome' love /down-to-earth 'boyfriend'
>only kissing Chloe devastating our *wholesome love* (while at the end Max's mind busy with getting jealous over Chloe by seeing her with other people)
eh this guy also didn't obviously read diaries, and I don't even mention her interpretions about time-travel because what he says also doesn't make sense

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>>183680939
>wholesome love
>Warren
Yeah wholesome love. True,undying love...
Another thing that people still can't get.. Game 'only' makes it clear there's a LOVE route for Chloe. And for Max's feelings,with that dare kiss, Max may be aware that she's in love with Chloe or if you didn't she newly starts to realize her feelings about Chloe subconsciously. Warren's route completely btfo'd especially after those two consclucions of journal entry/nightmare sequence.Because in either of version of journal entry she was busy with questioning her feelings for Chloe about if it's love. Which one's the wholesome love now?

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>>183680638
Would anyone of us be here, if we did?

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>>183680939
>>183681435
can this be more obvious

>>183682064
okay they may be missed details,some scenes,all of thosediary entries, or they really thought all so-called pro-warryn choices would be enough for making Max fall in love with him... (all of those choices actually based on doing something good rather than being a romance options though)

but they all should've understood that they seriously got cuck'd when they saw the nightmare/dark room maze when Max's fear in nightmare was ''seeing Chloe flirting/kissing with other people'' I mean this fucking happened in everyone's playthrough, how can you even miss this?

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>>183682978
>>183683379

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>>183683408
They aware of that anon... but don't want to accept it.

>>183683709
Good lord. Well at least they admit it's canon

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>killing nearly 1,000,000 pedestrians in GTA and doesn't give a shit about it
>in LiS, telling me that Bay ending is morally right choice since other NPCs lives matter more than love of Max's life and whinning over everyone died in the other one

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>>183683709
oh, this pic again.
>nudge towards Warren
actually she stepped back, all characters changed their positions. but to their headcanon.. she might be married with warryn at there. doesn't matter if the person that main character loves died in that ending, because their brains was focused on something else.
I mean let's say, in theory, she nudged towards him, would that mean she's in love with him for god's sake. these people are really fucked up from the brain

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>>183683709
Another reason why I'll never be part of 53%

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just want BtS to drop so /lisg/ becomes active again

>>183687876
what kind of logic is that?

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So is he just a cuck?

>>183688740
Briefly, yes he is cuck and his fans are cuckest.

>>183676423
I'd choose it in a hearbeat desu

>>183683709
>Hey, so your best friend died and you've suffered some kind of trauma that you've told no one about, clearly you want to get into a relationship now
What fucking planet do these morons live on?

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>>183688740

>>183688740
I like to think he gets together with Kate. Just because of the way kate talks about him in the hospital. Then I remember I killed him with the storm. Ah well.

>>183688740
Cuck implies a relationship, which there is none. Max and Warren have a friendship and Max herself sees it that way.
His fans all seem to actually be insane and want to shatter Max's heart by killing Chloe and then think Warren will be there with some kind of magical tape to put it back together.

>>183689321
i don't know which one's more moronic though. thinking Max'd be ever in love with warryn especially after that nightmare and even after while her latest thoughts were obviously questioning about her being in love with Chloe, or their thinking nudging towards someone (while she didn't even nudge towards anyone in that ending) means we're in love with them.. or their being this cold-blooded enough to not give a shit about Max's best friend,soulmate,love of her life died right there and she'll never be okay,will never get over trauma after that ending...

>>183689368
Kate deserves better.
She may said Warren is cutiepie but poor child doesn't even know warryn watched her video one and half times and into cannibal movie stuff.

>>183689368
I don't think Warren died, or anyone else in the diner, but I don't want to start that again.
Maybe after some time and realizing what mistake he made (Agreeing to go out with one girl and then asking a second and dumping the first if the second accepts) and maturing a little bit, then Warren would be ready for a relationship.
He's only 16 so some of the awkwardness can be forgiven.

>>183688740
Not bad guy obviously but he adds anything to this story, doesn't even have any major importance developers meant to put him to show friendzone guy who may be awkward and cringy af, who can't take hint while the girl is so much nice to tell him otherwise and whatever you do values him as friend.

I despise his fans more and the way their justifying their self-insert though.

>>183689657
The worst part is that his fans would be hurting their own character. Basically trying to force him and Max together so she actually can reject him.
When in reality he was starting to realize that Max didn't like him back and was dropping the subject so nobody got hurt. Makes sense that Warren fans are also Bayfags, they both thing they're doing the right thing but are just making a mess of everything and leaving poor Max to clean it all up.

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Girlfriend selfie!

>>183690149
>Warren fans are also Bayfags
i've seen all debates anon and all I can say is of fucking course they are. as you can see their mind is only focused on analyzing if Max nudged towards him in that ending or not. during in argument though, they'd defend ''muh sacrifice someone you love for the greater good'' but in deep all they care about is ''awww warryn is alive yey, we got rid of Chloe so Max will make move on him yay!''

but they really don't know Max neglects all of his affection indepenant of our choices because no matter you force Max on that she didn't fall in love with him and didn't see him as exact romance route. but with Chloe, even if you didn't choose that path everything came naturally,indepenant of our choices,and she realized that something was going on after the dream sequence.

>>183690942
I can't say the dream sequence was entirely accurate since it also portrayed Chloe as someone who didn't like Max or who talked badly about Max behind her back. That's simply not true and we all know it. The nightmare was just Max's worst possible thoughts being shown to try to scare her, but she realizes she has no reason for those fears.

That aside, there's no way in the Bay Ending that Max would be in the mood for any of that crap. In the time it takes her to finally snap and go back to save Chloe, she would be sitting locked in her room bawling her eyes out. Or sitting in Chloe's room and doing the same.
She's not going to any classes, speaking to anyone, or doing anything. If Warren tried to approach her, she would ask to be left alone. If Chloe dies and everything Max did was in vain/ apparently wrong then Max's life is also over. At least until she has Chloe back.

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>>183691295
I wish she could stop time and live in this moment forever

>>183691472
anon you know i'm not saying nightmare scene was accurate and showing Chloe's true personality, my point was obviously it was presenting Max's fears. and since hloe obviously played in romantic manner in there since she was romantically involved with those people in front of Max,she was also flirting kissing those characters. the latest journal entries were heavily focused on nightmare-dark room maze and Max questions if those feelings are more than that by bringing up love word.. yeah that's where she understood / newly started to realize (if you didn't kiss her earlier) right there, her feelings for Chloe.


>If Chloe dies and everything Max did was in vain/ apparently wrong then Max's life is also over. At least until she has Chloe back.
that's what I'm talking about.

How did you all react to
"Ready for the mosh pit shaka brah"?

>>183692584
cringy

>>183691472 >>183691982
Well every part of nightmare was unique and everything were clearly obvious. She encountered with her biggest fears.In dark room maze obviously she was feeling herself inadequate for Chloe, getting physical hurt while she was giving attention to them rather than herself. In lockers maze, nightmare was warped perspective of feelings she internalizes or assumes about the people,those male figures around her.She might exaggerated those figures' personalities but those were all the presentation with their rl personalities/experiences,with exaggerated interpreations.

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>>183692584
I'm 100% sure that Chloe wanted to kiss her there but she played cool instead.

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>>183692584
"Goddam, Max, you're a dork."

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>>183693030
I'm 100% sure that Chloe wanted to kiss Max since they were like 14 but never had the courage.

It was the night in the pool they had together, and just how awesome that morning was going that finally made her act on that desire. Cleverly disguising it as a harmless dare and way to make Max do something new.
Clearly our girl Chloe is a master of subtly.

>>183692584
i don't even know what that means

>>183692871
for instance, she exaggerated warren's rl pushiness and showed she actually tired of it, that she's frustrated and tired of people outright assuming that warren is her "bf" (according to one of nathan's dialogues,and warren's saying ''brooke loves me so why don't you huh?') or that she should reincorporate his affection for her just because he likes her, usually with no thought toward how she might feel about the idea.

for david/samuel (for snooping his room,being nosy) she was feeling guilty,but of course especially for david.

for wells, she interpretting her lack of attention to students. one of his dialogue was based on AU-letter where he did not accept AU Chloe to blackwell

for frank, he scared her off at some point in their very first meeting so she interpretted it that way

you know what happened with jefferson/nathan, you know how would she interpret their rl actions so no need to explain it.

>>183694670
>her lack of attention
his* shit

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>>183694293
>I'm 100% sure that Chloe wanted to kiss Max since they were like 14 but never had the courage.
do you think they'd ever show it in farewell episode though? or Chloe's whispering ''I love you so much'' while Max has already gone...

https://twitter.com/DONTNOD_Michel/status/887467385673965568

>Really excited about what we are doing at work! Too bad I cannot say anything for now :(

hmm...

>>183694975
b-but if you chose bay ending?

>>183694975
I think it will show Chloe holding together and smiling but the instant Max is out of sight, Chloe will go up to her room and cry.
I don't think she really realized she loved Max until Rachel came along and she had something to compare it to. Thinking "I'll never have a friend as good as Max" and then she starts feeling things for Rachel and goes "Oh shit. That was love." which makes her even sadder since she doesn't think she'll ever be able to act on it.
At least things work out in the end, better late than never. And those five years apart really made it more obvious what they were feeling/missing when they did get back together.

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>>183695169
Max would never choose it or choose to let it persist, so that's not a worry.
At most, that would prolong their separation a few days more.

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>>183694293
>master of subtly.
Pfft.Yeah.
actually there are more moments like that but couldn't find those pics meh

>>183695774
>b-but they're just friends!

why would you wanna play this game?

>>183695774
Chloe truly is hella gay.

>>183695774
>Max: [...] I'm a total nerd.
>Chloe:Uh, nerds are hot.You jut don't have any confidence yet.

Now this is from a playthrough/dark room-maze where you didn't kiss Chloe earlier:

>"I hear that. I'm not into... nerds but you're pretty cute..."

do you guys need more evidences for Max's into Chloe?

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>>183695169
we'll lynch you instead

>>183695279
>Chloe will go up to her room and cry.
i guess she will try to push Max away to not say goodbye, will become mad. when she found out Max left from the town, she will possibly breakdown and regret from those actions.

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Joyce will be even less surprised when she hears who her daughter is dating.
But she'll still be happy for them.

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>>183696748
>Max thinks she is a nerd
>in her nightmare one of Chloe's dialogue says that she is not into nerds ( by giving that word obvious prominence)
oh you,Max.

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>>183696748
as if evidences in-game weren't enough:

>https://instaud.io/tTN

>I'd do anything just to wake up next to you...

>https://instaud.io/NYU

>Chloe,I love you.
>You better.And I'll always love you..

>https://twitter.com/LifeIsStrange/status/889529935936794624

>What are your theories about the Raven in #BeforetheStorm?

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>>183698205
>check the comments
>''butterfly is Chloe,Rachel is the bird''

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>>183698205
It's representative of Rachel's influence on Chloe.
But also on Chloe as a whole during that time in her life.

https://whatismyspiritanimal.com/spirit-totem-power-animal-meanings/birds/raven-symbolism-meaning/
Some highlights:
>it’s most likely that something is about to transform your life. Whether positive or negative
>Dreams about Ravens symbolize transformation and dreaming of a Raven or Ravens is letting you know that change is right around the corner
>When you have a Raven spirit animal you must not give your promises of confidentiality lightly, nor give away information given to you in trust.
>In the sunlight the color of Raven isn’t simply black, but appears to transform into various shades of blue.

Reminder that Mari's theories will be right again

>>183698205
>issa bird
>My theory is that it can fly
>Birb just wants to find sum seed
=kek

Mari is a hack. /lisg/ will be right again.

>>183699347
redditier jokes desu

Max and Rachel - Doe (Rachel's spirit takes that form to guide Max)
Chloe - Raven in the prequel, Bluejay in season 1
William - Butterfly (Only appears right before Chloe is saved or as she is buried)

>>183699087
Share these on twitter, because I can't really stand all of those ignorant people's assumptions.

>Rachel is bird it has been established in game (???)
>Butterfly is directly Chloe (???)

>>183699720
They deserve it if they're asking about significance in things that will ultimately have none.
Even if it's a different team making BtS, people are still aware of all the false leads and dropped plot points Dontnod put into the game.

>>183699893
blue-jay is no-one
spiritual doe was Rachel, guiding Max with that
butterfly was no-one, neither was including anyonelse's spirit. it was foreshadowing dontnod's butterfly effect theme, aka storm summoner
>>183662094

raven probably would be no-one rather than foreshadowing bad events such as Rachel's issues with her f.a.m.

>>183699987
I was reading the comments and don't remember any of they stuff they say was "established".
I don't have a Twitter, but feel free to use that stuff and anything else you find.
I'm not some fervent believer in that stuff. I just found it interesting when I looked up the meaning of Ravens to people and a lot of it did sound like Chloe, especially during that time in her life. Even if it's just some symbolism and not actually something influencing the plot.

It's bullshit that the worst character got one of the coolest animals.
Fucking Jefferson.

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>>183700304
Do you think I was lying though? Here.

>I don't have a Twitter, but feel free to use that stuff and anything else you find.
I'm not some fervent believer in that stuff. I just found it interesting when I looked up the meaning of Ravens to people and a lot of it did sound like Chloe, especially during that time in her life. Even if it's just some symbolism and not actually something influencing the plot.

Create one and post there then. Trust me your theories make more sense than those people.

>>183700581
so what? they didn't even mention it, neither had any importance in story.

>>183700581
What animal is jefferson?

>>183700819
Owl

>>183700018
>people are still aware of all the false leads and dropped plot points
Actually they don't,as it seems like nobody knows shit. Sometimes it feels like only this general measure to those things.
I don't even think raven will have significance in story, but I still do believe that we're gonna see some supernatural symbolisms,events in-game. Because even michel said arcadia bay isn't so 'normal' town.

>''aww poor Nathan, he didn't want to hurt all these people :( he deserves a second chance!!''

>''lol save Chloe? nah, she's a completely irredeemable cunt that deserve to die''

Is there anything worse than Nathan apologists?

leak anon where are you?

>>183700950
God damn the amount of twin peaks similarities is staggering. I guess Mark Jefferson is just possessed by BOB

>>183701303
ah man, I really despise those fangirls. Nathan fucked up like so much that's the fact, before he dies he accepted his mistakes even if he was late and had family issues. i felt bad for him but obviously hated what he did,because he hurt those girls afterall. these fangirls are giving that character more ooc depth as if he was some flawless character in this world.

>>183701449
Yeah obviously they put it for reference. But as the other anon said, his being owl neither did major impact on story nor mentioned directly.

>>183700646
Oh no, I didn't mean you weren't telling the truth.
I meant I don't ever remember the game or any interviews confirming that kind of stuff that those people are claiming was confirmed. Rachel is pretty clearly the doe, the only thing tying her to a bird is her father earring and that;s more hinting to some kind of relation to the natives.

>>183701208
I think /lisg/ is just the most vocal about that stuff.
Not expecting the raven to actually do anything except be there as a metaphor. Like the butterfly in the first season being there to represent change. It's a concept instead of an actual force that influences the plot/world directly (I know, I know, Butterfly = storm summoner)
The exception is the doe spirit since we know that is Rachel and that she was working to guide Max to solving the mystery.

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>>183700646
>Rachel is the bird... this was also mentioned in the first game
>10 likes
>''this was also mentioned in the first game''
Mari, where are you? only a sassy bitch like you can open these reddittors' eyes.

>>183701303
I think that's by far the most pathetic and disgusting part of the fanbase other than the people who shop Max with Jefferson.
I'd much rather take a Warren fan over a Nathan apologist any day. Fine to feel bad for him, but don't make excuses for his actions.

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>>183701920
>I meant I don't ever remember the game or any interviews confirming that kind of stuff that those people are claiming was confirmed
The only thing that they outrightly confirmed was, as you said, Rachel's being that spiritual doe. And that was only in director's commentary these things were neither established in-game nor mentioned by characters.

>I think /lisg/ is just the most vocal about that stuff.Not expecting the raven to actually do anything except be there as a metaphor. Like the butterfly in the first season being there to represent change. It's a concept instead of an actual force that influences the plot/world directly (I know, I know, Butterfly = storm summoner) The exception is the doe spirit since we know that is Rachel and that she was working to guide Max to solving the mystery.
Exactly. Raven's role in-game will be a metaphor, or symbolism of events (maybe it was something related with Rachel's dad and his being bad etc.)

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>>183702151
majority of nathan apologists are also technically warrencucks though. so i despise both of those fandom/fangirls

>>183702584
I'm kind of hoping we see some hint of William in the prequel like we do of Rachel in the original.
Something to say he's watching Chloe and hoping she finds her way. Even though he would only be able to truly rest with his mind at peace five years later when he knows Chloe has Max again.

Are there evidences that supernatural elments has been present in Arcadia Bay before Max discovered her power?

>>183702151
>I'd much rather take a Warren fan over a Nathan apologist any day
Nah nigga don't. Both of those are delusional enough and defending the same thing.

>>183703007
Well, in dream sequences we're gonna encounter with him.Which makes me think that if these dream sequences are some kind of vision to let Chloe know he was with her and guiding her (considering, in leaks we have also one more dream sequence while we were in junkyard) Will they really go that far?

>>183703064
It was neither established in-game because we were playing the game from Max's pov, but as you can see >>183702584 Michel outrightly said that Arcadia Bay is special. In prequel we're gonna see if they will fill those plot-holes or completely ignore it again.

>>183703423
makes me think of how Ms green says that blackwell has a history going back to the native americans. I wonder just how long Arcadia Bay has had strange shit going on.

>>183698536
>butterfly is Chloe,Rachel is the bird
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OfwhGQONbg

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>Arcadia bay is a different & special town
If we're really gonna see some supernatural events in addition to this, then we can say one more time that Bayfags really BTFO'd.

>>183703725
Oh you mean Ms. Grant's dialogues. I checked for you now, I didn't even remember that she said all of these:

>"Blackwell Academy has a noble heritage, from the Native Americans who founded this land, to the pioneers who shared it in peace, not fear and violence."
>''It's a slippery slope. And it's up to you and your classmates to stand up here."
>"The tribes who were here first, who welcomed the settlers. Both cultures found a mutual symbiosis and thrived."
>"You should learn a little history about your alma mater. You'll find some fascinating facts. There's a lot of power in this region. I think it helps the creative juices flow around here..."

do you think they'd follow these though?

>>183703894
They already btfo'd. But I believe that prequel will give us some extra points.

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>>183703423
The nightmares will certainly be something. Chloe actually imagining her father's death is going to be really fucked up. I also wonder if Chloe has a vision of Rachel before they actually meet and that's why she's so interested in befriending her but doesn't want to seem creepy or something. We see one small glimpse of Chloe in the car with William, and Rachel's hand pressed against the glass. You can tell it's her because you see her bracelets.
That could also be after they met, but with how Max saw a vision of the storm before doing anything to (allegedly) cause it, you can never be sure.
One topic I don't want to really think about, but I'm sure will come up, is if Chloe was ever suicidal. If William is indeed watching her then that would certainly cause him some distress or even force him to act.

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>>183704662
Yeah nightmares will be really painful to watch.But that's a question if those are gonna be just nighmares or some guidance dreams of William's...

> I also wonder if Chloe has a vision of Rachel before they actually meet and that's why she's so interested in befriending her but doesn't want to seem creepy or something. We see one small glimpse of Chloe in the car with William, and Rachel's hand pressed against the glass. You can tell it's her because you see her bracelets.
Now that you mentioned I've watched gameplay not sure if you guys noticed but even if punkclub is first location of the game, Chloe recognized Rachel in there. So their first meeting totally didn't happen in punkclub. You know, when we saw the first leaks of train pic, we assumed that Chloe assumed suicide and Rachel saved her blahblah, but after seeing gameplay there was no such a thing. So I don't really know how they meet, maybe they simply know each other from blackwell, or Chloe saw that girl in her dreams,as you said.

>>183705206
I think they at least knew who each other were from Blackwell, but never actually met before. Rachel and Chloe both have their own reputations. So seeing them become close friends may shock the school when "The super popular and successful" Rachel Amber befriends "Some lowlife punk" Chloe Price. We could even see Rachel defend Chloe from some Vortex Club members trying to give her shit. That would be cool.

All the stuff about the contents of the nightmare are hard to know for sure right now. If I had to say just from how I perceive Chloe, she would never try to kill herself. But I may be proven wrong, I hope not. Not because I don;t like being wrong, but because I don't want to see Chloe in that much pain and losing all hope.

Chloe accuses Rachel of being like Victoria. Victoria doesn't like Rachel by the time of season 1. Chloe doesn't like Victoria.
Victoria probably tried to do something to Chloe to humiliate her, Rachel either stepped in and stopped it or got revenge on Victoria later. Maybe they even physically fought. This is before Victoria was queen bee so maybe she tried to assume dominance and got smacked down by Rachel.

>>183705681
>We could even see Rachel defend Chloe from some Vortex Club members trying to give her shit. That would be cool.
After you mentioned this, another thing came up to my mind. Remember if you took Victoria's photo, Chloe says ''karma is a bitch'' when she sees Victoria like that.
I guess that's how Rachel and Chloe will meet,Rachel will flip Victoria a shit. And their second meeting will be on punkclub.. who knows

>If I had to say just from how I perceive Chloe, she would never try to kill herself. But I may be proven wrong, I hope not. Not because I don;t like being wrong, but because I don't want to see Chloe in that much pain and losing all hope.

I'm not sure about if she went too far like commiting suicide (which honestly, she was overly depressed for sure I don't think so) but she obviously has and will major breakdowns. See her reactions after Rachel left her in junkyard, and after she calmed down she will regret from those actions,as always.

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nathan deserved better

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXj9Ash3INQ

I can imagine max listen to this, cruising around seattle or just blasting it in her hipster studio apartment

>>183706714
>Victoria probably tried to do something to Chloe to humiliate her. Rachel either stepped in and stopped it or got revenge on Victoria later.
>>183706957
>After you mentioned this, another thing came up to my mind. Remember if you took Victoria's photo, Chloe says ''karma is a bitch'' when she sees Victoria like that.

piece them together.. yup. I guess we found how did they meet

>>183707079
go back to tumblr

>>183707079
hell no, the nigga was still in control of his own actions
he only showed some ''remorse'' when shit hit the fan

>>183707079
What will be Nathan's sentence in Bay ending?
Remember that he's a white privileged kid who's family pretty much own the town and he has clear mental issues
Speaking of this ending, how the fuck does Autopilot Bay Max explain to the cops about what happened in the bathroom. Wouldn't she scream in horror at the sight of Chloes dead body not remember what exactly happened?

>>183706957
Oh yeah, Chloe is very emotional and always has been, and always will be.
She says and does stupid things sometimes without thought, but if she didn't mean them then she apologizes once she has a cooler head and tries to make up for it. It's something she would have to learn to work on over time. But since this is before everything with Max coming back and Chloe realizing she has to respect others, she's going to have a short-fuse and breakdowns.

Im a little confused, why do people say nathan deserved better?
I mean at the end of the day he was still in league with jeffercunt, He still killed rachel and he still drugged kate correct?

>>183707810
possibly cops figured everything out by Nathan's confessions. autopilot Max probably adjusted herself what just happened why did she passed out for a second, looked at butterfly photo and found *that horrible scenario* in bathroom.

seriously talking about this ending makes me feel bad and stupid. how stupidly written it is I mean, why the hell was Frank didn't even go to jail after Nathan's confessions? because he bought those dangerous drugs from frank.

I get the whole nathan is a red herring thing but its still implied he drugged kate and he did indeed kidnap her. I dont really think nathan should be bait and switch red herring people keep saying he is. Because you Max was still correct about him except the motivation for doing the things were different the only thing that changed was the fact he wasnt the one taking the pictures of kate in the dark room.

He still drugged kate,
Kidnapped her
Took her to jefferson

and he killed rachel.

Hardly a didnu nuthin type.

>>183707810
His sentence would probably be life in prison or 20-to-life with lots of parole.

I've read one fic, which sadly seems to have discontinued, where Chloe survived getting shot but Nathan's father pulled every string he had to avoid bringing shame to his family name. Trying to make Nathan's shooting look like self-defense since Max and Chloe were both in the bathroom and knew each other, Chloe was clearly trying to blackmail and extort Nathan, and using Chloe's past to try to paint her as a criminal who turned Max into an accomplice. All the stuff about the Dark Room was dumped onto Jefferson.
It was an interesting idea but a worst case scenario. You saw how Prescott's money was getting him better treatment, how he used the police to keep info about Nathan from getting out but leaking stuff on Chloe, and how events were spun to make Nathan look innocent and people believed it since his official record was otherwise clean.

>>183708027
Fangirls shouldn't be taken seriously anon.Those people are fucked up from brain who are defending everything Jefferson/Max but don't want to accept her being with Chloe.

>>183708027
Because of his mental illness and how his father treated him. Yeah, he shouldn't have been prevented from getting help, but you're right. Nathan was still in control of his actions and he still hurt a lot of people.
Hard to say he got what he deserved but play with fire and you will eventually get burned. The one thing people have any right to say about Nathan is "I wish things could have been different for him", but they weren't different. Nathan was in a bad situation and his own willing actions only made it worse.

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>>183688740
>He believes he is destined to observe...
>never experience

>>183707079
>>183708220
>>183708027
nice try to getting yous though

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>>183692584
I thought it was cute because she's such a dork and Chloe loves it

Okay im about to say something pretty weird, but i think only straight men, gay men and lesbian women understand what LiS is suppose to be, 90% of non bi straight women end up fan girling over nathan or jeffercunt and saying things like "I didnt see the romance between Chloe and Max" ether they say that or they think its gross and start shipping Nathan and Max for a BDSM thing, Jefferson and Max for a daddy fetish thing, or Warren and Max for a subboy thing.
Straight female fans of this series are most of the time worse than Straight male fans that are just here for the lesbian smut. but at least the straight male fans who are only here for lesbian fantasy recognize pricefield is canon.

>>183708564
His fangirls are fucking problem actually. Can't even want to accept that he has biggest flaws and not flawless guy as they thought. He was surely more deep character than mary-sue Warren, but even if he had family issues,mental problems he hurt people and realized his mistakes at the very end, nearby his death.
But he did hurt people, he did many stupid fucked up things. I guess we all have to accept it.

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>>183708620
Really makes me think.

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Anyone have the gif of Max awkwardly dancing?

>>183709056
Straight girl here and at the very start of the game I knew something was going on between Max and Chloe. Then Episode 3 made me more sure. I also find them cute because the love each other is very well-developed.
I mean this was the well-developed,main relationship in-game, even if I wouldn't like it I would still be accept the fact that their relationship is superior and there's always be something more because that's what game showed to us. But I guess I could never understand those people ''who insistently don't want to accept their relationship/ignoring them with creating stupid ships''

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>>183709219
the last two ones are still belong to you though.

>>183709395

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>>183709415
>girl btw

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>>183709395
It's not awkward, it's cute

>>183709063
>Warren
>Mary sue
Guy is written pretty pathetically. Even the one time he does something good and kicks Nathan's shit in it isn't portrayed that positively.

Reminder that Nathan will return in the prequel.

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>>183709661
And? I had more to say so I made another post? Never tried to hide the fact or even cared who knew and who didnt. Both say the same thing about disliking nathan so I dont really get what you're trying to imply.

If my posts said 2 different things youd be onto something but my 2 posts are about the same topic and have the same point, that nathan was a piece of shit.

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One more. Max is hardcore!

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>>183709780
>got beaten by Nathan before 3 days
>became street fighter in 3 days, beated Nathan was acting like drunk as a skunk
>at night,warryncuck got drunk by a half beer
that scene also pretty showed his gary-stu skills though.

>>183709668
Girls? In my /LiSg/? Its more likely than you think.

>>183710249
trannies don't count

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>>183710127

>>183710416
Speaking of tranny, I get the feeling that he's here rn

>>183709780
>>183710160
That was all to hint that Warren's a quiet and nice kid but can freak the fuck out when pushed too far. Every school has at least one, the kid who gets bullied for really no reason and who hits the point where they've had enough. Though in Warren's case, it was also to defend his friends and take revenge for them. And considering Nathan just pulled a gun on them, I'll give Warren that and say good on him for taking Nathan down.
Nathan crying and blubbering was what was pathetic. I feel pity for him but I don't sympathize with him. As was said earlier, Nathan was the one in control of his action and he was choosing to hurt people.

>>183710854
As much as I despise what Nathan has done, I felt bad for him, but obviously I hated what he did no deny.
That beating up scene was literally unnecessary imo. I was expecting something that they could've easily make Nathan talk in there since they've got their phone,biggest clue right there. But no, our mary-sue had to show his fighting skills,his black side as mychel said, both consclucion didn't go well for him though.

>>183710854
don't throw me to the wolves for saying this but Nathan didn't even make effort to fight (other than pointing his shitty gun) unlike their first encounter in parking lot,he was more active in there.

i guess prior to those events something happened with him and jefferson or his daddy,or maybe took pills because brooke had said he was doing weird actions in that morning.

>>183711145
I actually rewound that entire beating scene because the whole thing was just too pathetic for me. Nathan reduced to a bleeding and crying mess, and Warren just becoming some Berserker was a little unsettling.
Plus I was thinking ahead and it was clear Nathan wasn't working alone in whatever he was doing so I thought letting him keep hold of his gun would mean he could use it to help Max later, that he would remember how she actually showed him mercy by pulling Warren off.
Initially, seeing Warren that angry also gave me a bit of a fear that he would turn out to be not so nice when Max finally did reject him. But that's clearly not a valid worry, Warren wouldn't hurt Max and he only hurt Nathan for the reasons mentioned above.
Man, my mind was really racing during the episodes with all that stuff that could happen.

>>183711426
No, I agree. Nathan didn't seem to be entirely there mentally and probably was on some kind of drug and also moping about everything.
He came back into the dorm and saw Max and Chloe snooping around by his room. He tried to act tough and use his gun to threaten them but that quickly crumbled and his shell cracked to reveal the miserable, broken, boy who lives inside. I really do feel sorry for Nathan and I wish he could have stood up for himself at some point against Sean or against Jefferson. But he was simply not capable of that and instead chose to continue down the path he was on.

>>183710854
>Warren is a potential school shooter
He is 4chan incarnate.

>>183709661
Is there anyone cuter in the whole wide world?

>>183711426
Yeah she said he was looked angry more than usual while heading off the campus,tried to chase down her drone etc. he's probably had more issues to deal with possibly related with Jefferson/his dad. It also seemed to me like he wasn't into fighting in that scene, like he let himself go at some point.

>>183711614
Seeing our gary-stu:p didn't make me fear of that, hell Max didn't even like what did she see even if she was also hating Nathan at that moment. I was just thinking they could figure this out with better consclucion, without ditching Nathan in there.

>>183712252
calm down,Chloe. she's yours anyway

>>183712185
He only belongs to /r9k/

>>183712185
Nathan's the one most likely to become a school shooter. It really wouldn't have surprised me, if after he shot Chloe, he turned the gun on others and then himself because he simply didn't know what to do and panicked.

>>183712025
yeah.
so Warren was lucky, or he'd get his ass beaten for the second time by Nathan. but he got more serious issues,his mind has already fucked up from his fuck-ups apparently

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>>183712252
Yes

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Maybe by some slim chance he managed to survive if Jefferson was arrested quick enough.
Doesn't undo a single thing he did, for which he should be punished, but maybe it can finally let him get some help. Perhaps even one day, many, many, years later, he could even be let back out on the street.

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>>183712185
>ywn play russian-roulette with Warren and will cheat to win

>>183708276
>>183708210
Nathan's confession will not close the case immediately though, especially when his lawyer could argue that he's not mentally stable . Police will still question the witnesses and seek forensic and other evidence.
Maxs witness testimony and statement will be vague and questionable.
David only heard the shot afterall and saw Nathan panicking and trying to revive her, unsuccessful. David will point out that Max was just sitting there and not do anything but just cry.
As that fic did, they can argue that Nathan acted in self defense or it was a drug deal gone bad and Chloe was too aggressive or something. Max and David can't really refute that.
Ahhhhhh

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>>183713254
BASED Dayeanne

Man I'm still waiting for that epic Episode 3 stream.But I guess it's not gonna happen

>>183713637 >>183708276
>>183708210


There's literally so many reasons,plot holes to not choose this ending. So I'm glad that I chose the 'right' one.

>>183713637
I don't at all think it would be an open and shut case. even if Nathan just wanted it to be over and go to prison, Sean would try to drag everyone down.
Frank for selling drugs, Max for not intervening and possibly working with Chloe (No one knows they hadn't seen each other for years), David for failing to stop a student from bringing a gun into school,. It would be a shit show and even if Nathan was eventually convicted, Sean would have done his own damage.
Just another reason to avoid all that entirely by NOT letting Chloe get shot/killed.

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Time for a cutepost to brighten the mood during this dark conversation.
Also some sugar to give a little more energy.

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>>183713823
>>183713993
!!

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>>183713682
Man, there's always a chance, but yeah it don't seem likely considering it's been eight and half months since ep2

>tfw best girl Kate won't be in the prequel

>>183714346
A version with even MORE stuff? (The conversation with William)
Wowsers. To think there will still be people who will say "Max would do the 'mature' thing and give up her own happiness for others"

>>183714470
That made me sad but at least Dayeanne was still streaming.

>>183714862
It's for the best anon.

>>183715068
yeah her promise to William gets me everytime.

>>183714346
You know, not saying this because she doesn't value anyone, Max's not bad person at all of course,but in whatever reality she was in, when she hears that storm was coming the first thing she says is ''Chloe.I have to save her'' rather than saying ''oh fuck.I have to save Arcadia Bay''

>>183713993
Plus considering the fact that Chloe was a known troublemaker and was known to the cops.
Nathans defense team could easily use that to their advantage. A jury that has no idea who Chloe really was will mostly likely be in favor of the son of the most richest and respect man of the town.
Jefferson is another story but Nathan has a chance to get a minor sentence.

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>>183715827
Everyone here agrees with you. Nobody would dare claim Max is a bad person.
The very act that she first gets/uses those powers are trying to help someone she doesn't even realize she knows.
Max is selfless throughout the game and it's only at the very end where she can put her own interests/desires ahead of others. And nobody would be able to judge her for doing so because she went through hell and back, and to let Chloe die after all that would be cruel and pointless.

>>183716415
Ikr.I don't know how are those cold-blooded fucks blaming her for loving someone (not mention measuring lives argument in favor of bayfaggotry)
I mean what's wrong with prioritizing your loved one over everything? it doesn't show that you're actually bad person,merciless or anything.That's also what we do, feel irl.

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goodnight lisg
stay comfy as like this

>>183718879
Sleep tight, Bunner.

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>>183718879
Goodnight anon.

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>>83654027

No, I'm not a troll; I know about "bae vs bay" because as soon as I finished the game, I went online.

Look, the game, and the ending, slayed me. I've been thinking about it almost nonstop since yesterday morning. I love Chloe and Max and sacrificing Chloe was gut-wrenching. But it was the only choice that I felt made sense. The Max I know would never let a town full of people die just to keep her friend alive a little longer. Max loved Chloe and would have made huge sacrifices to save her--but not the lives of all those people. As much as Max loved Chloe, she also cared deeply about other people. It just wouldn't be true to her character to let the whole town die.

Plus, there is just so much tragic beauty in the bay ending; it's horrible but irresistible.

I'm probably going to do a second playthrough and intend on sacrificing Chloe again, although I'm open to counterarguments.

^ No.

>>183721019
Not the person you replied to but though I do think that saving arcadia is the more "logically correct" choice. I feel like max after doing so much to save chloe would not want to lose her ever again no matter what. So I chose that one for my first playthrough.
Of course, the real best option is choosing to save arcadia then turning the game off after Chloe gets shot because one shot to the stomach is incredibly painful but unlikely to kill her before she gets medical help.

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>>183721019
>I love Chloe and Max
>That's why I did something that would kill both of them
See image.

>The Max I know would never let a town full of people die just to keep her friend alive a little longer.
Are you one of those "The storm will just follow them or things will keep trying to kill Chloe." people?

>let the whole town die.
Tornadoes do not work that way.

>beauty in the bay ending; it's horrible but irresistible.
Self-harm is a very serious issue. Please consider help if causing pain to yourself and those close to you seems appealing.

>>183721841
Bay ending might be the ''morally correct'' ending but ''logically correct''? Hell no, it's the other way around.

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>>183721841
That was the original idea for the ending. Chloe would survive getting shot and the game would end with Max sitting by her side in the hospital. Chloe in a coma and it's up the player to decide if she woke up or not.
Both endings were going to be open ended and it's only later on that Dontnod changed ti to show Chloe dying.

The best choice would have been a third option that allowed going back to earlier points in the week to warn people. But since that wasn't offered, the only suitable course of action for Max out of the two is to save Chloe (>>183714346). After the storm, she could still go back to those earlier points in the week to warn people.
Both choices are poor ones, but only one offer any hope of things becoming better. The one where Max and Chloe are alive, because as we've been shown throughout the game: As long as they are together, they can overcome anything.

>>183722331
I wouldn't even call it morally correct.

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I won't run away no more, I promise
Even when I get bored, I promise
Even when the ship is wrecked, I promise
Tie me to the rotten deck, I promise