/dg/ Destiny General - The City is Burning Edition

It looks better and feels worse all while at the same time being the same.

>>183633375
To me it's a great improvement.
Been doing better in this beta than in all of D1.
Especially in the last months of D1.

>No stickies
>No icebreakers
>No sidearms

I love it

>>183633375
d1 with no cooldown reduction feels like shit too

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>no sunbreaker untill next year

Thread theme (Cabal Perspective):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpSHC1dqX1o

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2/3 Trials

>>183633680
Just play Warlock my dude

>>183633812
I want melting point my man

>>183633890
You mean you don't LOVE being able to shoot while hovering in the air?

Dawnblade is lame as fuck.

>Trials of Osiris
>All armor and weapons are egyptian themed

>Trials of the nine

Will all weapons and armors turn you into a freakshow with tentacles?

>>183634542
Eldritch abomination theme armor? I'll take it

Teamshotting has made the beta PvP shit

>>183635087
Shitters always find way to make games unfun for everyone else.

>>183635087
>>183635149
T. Friendless neets

>>183635245
I love you, anon

>>183635569
I love you too, what's your psn? Add me?

>>183635569
I love you too, anon

>>183633578
Hunters still have stickies
what's weird is they have much better homing in PvE but it actually seems to be worse thanm before in PvP

>>183635961
Stickies are no longer insta kills in PvP anon.
Deliberately so.

Will we ever have a destiny and warframe cross over?

who all can charge grenades? please don't tell me it's just Warlocks

Can someone post the Warlock strike set please?

>>183636190
Only because you said "please" but unfortunately i don't have it

Some guy told me he thinks it's a big mistake that crucible is now about 4 v 4 team battles rather than more individual combat and I called him entitled how did I do bros?

>>183637096
That's pretty dumb, although bungie is fucking gay for not having a 6v6 playlist. For casual fun time

5v5 would be tons better
they also need to make Countdown more urgent and speed up the disabling so alive people count and coming off defense is punishable

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I hope this armor is actually in the game. It looks nice.

>>183637651
>peggy hill

>>183637402
They are going to add it later they are following the FIFA structure where they take stuff out and introduce it later as "new content". God damn what happened to the days where we got so many options out of the box day 1? People shit on COD but at least they try to have diverse PVP modes for everyone. This is kinda sad for a company that made Halo of all games.

i don't like the 3 man only fireteam.

>>183637779
Have a (((you)))

>>183637920
what part of my post was the bait?

>>183637779
Idc because i already bought the season pass.

>>183637920
that's actually what's going to happen
they're behind, they're going to add shit in that should've been in the game at launch and reddit and probably (You) are going to suck their dicks for it

>>183637779
>let's ignore Destiny 1 completely

>>183638238
Destiny 1 added modes later on though and even took shit out and brought it back as rotating matches.

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Streaming Trials then Wrath

/drinniol7

>>183637754
what

>>183638363
fuck off

Destiny wouldve been better if they didn't sellout to activision. At least with microsoft halo games were complete and had tons of things to do on day 1. It's a shame stockholders are the only players who wins.

>>183637779
>>183637920
>>183638213
Bungo will pay the price one of these days

>>183638510
>comparing a singleplayer story campaign to an online multiplayer with expansions
>halo 2
>complete

Will destiny ever have superior game modes like multi team headhunter?

It's going to be a fun day in the office tomorrow. We had a few bets on what players would and would not discover in The Farm while it was available.

>>183637626
We've been wanting to push the competitive angle because it is one of the best ways to maintain a strong playe rbase. We'd like to keep everyone happy, but all the telemetry from Destiny and love of modes like Trials has shown us that 4v4 is the best way to balance competitive players and casual interests for now. If the winds shift and people trend towards other modes, we might change things up.

>>183638632
Funny because halo 2 campaign pvp mode is still better than anything in D1

>>183634251
Dawnblade doesn't seem to be working correctly.

I feel like a retard but I literally can't make it kill shit. It doesn't connect well.

Googled it and apparently lots of people have the same issue

>>183638875
you didn't address what you're going to do with Countdown
and stop larping

>>183638875
Bungie you guys are dumb.
>want more compeitive but no ranking system
So stupid

>>183638921
>more opinions
>swords
>shotguns
>snipers
looks the same to me

>>183638997
I've already told you guys enough to give you some insight into how things are at a development studio. I get you're still butthurt after all these weeks, angrynon/STALKER mod guy, but nothing I've said has been wrong and you can read around each reveal which reaffirms my statements.

I've got to run some errands while you can angry at the world making your STALKER mod.

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>>183603715
>lol???
don't make me expose you

>>183639329
More maps more gametype

>>183639348
you still haven't addressed what you're going to do with Countdown
you were more focused on quickly defending your position

so stop larping already

>>183639479
What one would expect after there being nothing else to do in the game after beating the 'campaign'.

>>183639405
Expose that nigga

>>183639659
There is ranking system mode which is better than comp in destiny, also don't mind me $60 for a full game while $120 D1 which only became decent after TTK

>>183639536

>he thinks bungieanon has omnipresence

he's said before that he'd pass things to other teams for feedback. workplaces have lots of different teams that work together towards a common goal. this is why everony knows you are are a jobless neet, angry anon.

POE was peak destiny. Prove me wrong

>>183639860
>Halo 2
>full game
I do agree that Destiny year 1 was a little dram. At least it is recovering.

>>183640058
There still more content than destiny 1 for $60 man

>>183638875
Does the PvP team get to ride the PvE team like horses? Whip them? Steal their lunch money? Because clearly the PvE team is the PvP team's bitch.

>>183640032
>the disappointing expansion that had no raid and was considered Destiny's lowest point was the peak

>>183639975
good samefag
all bullshit till proper proof is provided
I don't believe bungie comes to /vg/ to shill or get feedback

Drinnlol is so chill, i didn't know /dg/ would be this chill. How do i play with drinlol

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>>183636060

>>183640032
rerolling made it peak PvP

>>183640229
Nvm some autist just joined the stream.

>>183640229
>t. drin

>>183640154
shittest was dark below

>>183640194
I honestly don't know how he feels the need to keep up the act. It's just regurtitating stuff from YouTube videos or IGN interviiews, or generic buzzwords wiith no proof. People in the industry either tend to be complete normalfags that are barely interested in shitshow forums like plebbit, or totally guarded about what they reveal because their asshole is on the line if they say too much.

>>183640646
Dark Below had the hype factor behind it. I agree it was shit too but only after HOW was released and people were like "This is it again" and "Aren't these stages the same only backwards now"did it gt really bad.

>>183640807
House of wolves was so bad it didn't even have a raid. Wtf was bungie doing? Nothing probably at the time

>>183641454
they somehow walk a very fine line between rushing everything and also being lazy while doing even that much

I really wonder how much actual work gets done at Bungie HQ in one day

and how much of it they spend patting themselves on the back

>>183641454
They claim they had a raid in development but didn't like it and cancelled the whole plan. I would like to see concepts of that raid because I don't fucking believe them for a second. I think in reality TDB and HOW content was done already including TDB raid and sometime between the two they realized they need to take development seriously or they are going to piss off their investors and we got Comet aka TTK.

>>183641612
sounds like my office

>''don't worry we have time''
>time passes
>huh deadline is actually next week...

>>183641859
Also POE was complete shit and ROI forge was what POE should have been and I hope they expand the concept of the forge, 6 player horde mode is fun just need more enemies, more areas, more variety etc.

>>183642112
Fuck you PoE was perfect

>>183642193
POE was fucking boring and the fact that the game pauses to show the score always pissed me the fuck off they should show the score and not freeze the fucking game but that is nitpicking. POE was basically set up a base in a corner somewhere and slowly pick off baddies where as forge is just non stop mindless killing which is more fun. I don't give a fuck about securing control points or whatever fuck that, that's not fun.

>>183642193
>tfw took more than 20 PoE runs to get an exotic
>it was the the dreg sidearm

>>183641454
House of Wolves made every piece of content relevant again because of Etheric Light letting us go back and do the old raids again to upgrade old weapon and armors + PvP being fun for most and Trials being a thing after months of hype and discussion.

>>183642364
>clash babby mad there is objective based pve

>>183642748
Yes exactly.

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>>183642364
and fucking variks talk was dumb
I hate boss hp blocking with checkpoints and unnecessarily slow PvE

PC beta when

Is recovery the most useful stat or am I wrong?

>>183643329
Seeing as it was the most important in D1 makes sense

>>183643323
Late August

Probably around the 21st if I had to guess

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>striker bottom cluster
>FoH lasts longer while sprinting. Killing enemies with FoH extends the duration.

This is it, this is a titan meta

>>183643323
i'm hoping being moved to late september

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>>183644007
>PC beta after console release

R.I.P. all of these guys
https://youtu.be/GSKUKVtujBc?t=40s

>>183643849
PAIN TRAIN

>>183644075
it's bungie. could happen

Do you guys think the old (vanilla) method of getting exotics via nightfall and raids was better or the current method where anyone can get anything as long as they complete exotic missions. I prefer the vanilla way personally. I think there should be two tiers of exotics. Ones casuals can get ones hardcore grinders can get.

>>183635079
please, bungo

>>183644007
why would you want the beta to be delayed

How were you supposed to get the beta?
I didn't preorder so I had no code, and I never saw it on the PS4 store or the web store to download.

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>mfw just got Nanobenis

>>183645138
I enjoyed grinding for exotics in vanilla. made the chase more worthwhile. but its understandable not everyone can pour in hours of grinding.
I agree, there should be some for casuals and others that reward players for spending so much time and effort.
I remember freaking out with my friend in vanilla when i got the last word.
it felt satisfying when they brought back icebreaker. everyone ready to go for nightfalls and people posting if they got it or not.
As long as the thrill is there, I'm good.

I would fuck a female hunter.

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>>183635569
Why would you say that?! B-Baka...

>>183645983
you can still get it, its free, just search for destiny 2 on the store. its also open until tuesday 6pm pdt now

>>183646582
I would fuck a female Warlock.

Is anybody still in the farm or am I alone?

>>183647891
Console?
I want to join you

>>183647997
I'm on PS4 but others have reported that you can't join another player in the farm after the hour window. I just wanted to know if anybody else is wandering around the empty farm. I've discovered pretty much everything there is to see without NPCs

>>183648209
Why are you still there? No one cares. You have nothing to gain and no one will remember you wasted this much time of your life.

>>183648332
Kill yourself toxic fuck

>>183648332
Because my life is an empty husk. There's something weirdly soothing about an empty social space with no music and only ambient nature sounds. I know everything will change once the game launches and there's NPCs and UI garbage out the ass

>>183645138
No. Vanilla's method sucked ass. There was no guarantee of an exotic from doing the night or even the raid. Maybe if there had been a guarantee the grind wouldn't have been felt so terrible. The other major issue was without gally no one wanted to let you join to do those endgame activities in order to get the weapon. So you were locked out of endgame content unless you had six friends who you could play with.

>>183648524
I respect that since your motivation isn't for retarded internet props.

>>183643235
Get out of here with that shit taste

>>183648923
Well if that was my goal I'd post a livestream link or at least give out my username. I honestly don't like the attention

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who else /reallynothopeful/ after the beta

>>183649149
As long as there's a sufficient amount of content I won't care cause the shooting is always fun.

>>183649060
what is your plan? Are you going to rubberband your remote?

>>183649149
hopefully there will be a new trailer or something showing off some new stuff soon

>>183639348
how many dicks did you massage at bungie today?

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You guys think customizAtion wll be better inD2?

>>183649649
>fixed armor sets
no

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>>183649149
Me. There's not enough content to really pass judgement but it looks more of the same. If the game had some great new refreshing feature they would have shown it already to get us hype.
Its going to be like Destiny 1 launch with a shiny coat of paint.

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>Going back from 3 subclasses to 2 instead of keeping 3 then introducing the 4th ones in an expansion

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>>183639975
>everony

>>183649649
Each piece of armor can have its own shader now. So maybe.

>>183650250
I really hope you get one shader and can just pick and choose what pieces to apply it to.
I really hope we don't have to grind for slot shaders.

>>183649649
niggers are ugly even 'good looking' ones like this specimen

>>183650037
I'm sure balancing these varied classes and keeping the many talent tree options viable is a very difficult task, don't you think it's a bit unreasonable to get them all at once? You're sounding a bit entitled :^)

>>183649956
>but it looks more of the sam
Dude, the strike alone was more elaborate than anything in D1. I wouldn't call it "more of the same".

>>183650386
It's okay /pol/

>>183650554
>Dude, the strike alone was more elaborate than anything in D1
If you took out the jumping parts no, it was pretty much a standard by the books strike. The jumping parts were just filler.

>>183636060
So the grenades do less damage along side longer cooldown? Are they just trying to make it easier for little kids to get into or what? They want people to just focus on guns and armor?

>>183650689
That's dismissing the drill and boss arena. There's nothing like the drill in D1, not even close to it. Same for the dynamic arena.

>>183650876
Its called gunskill and teamplay and it sounds like you have none.

>>183650386
I may be inclined to agree, but neither are products of incest, who have either no chins or several, club feet, and webbed hands and toes.

>>183650385
if bungie can be bothered, there'll be a palette of shaders in your inventory that can then be accessed and applied to your gear

if not, there'll just be a fixed number of shaders you can get for each armor set / weapon (less than 2x7 or however many slots are available)

>>183650924
I don't play much crucible, I just feel like they're diminishing my ability to use abilities, which were some of my favorite things. I'm still peeved that the scatter grenade isn't like skittles anymore.

>>183650385
I don't think they'd make getting and using shaders worse in D2, anon.

>>183650882
drill wasn't even elaborate
you just run through and there is a clear, safe path through the entirety of it

>>183650882
it's semi-neat that they alternate from having you circle the boss to having the boss circle you, but ultimately he's just one bullet sponge of may to come

>drill

would have been fun, but since the enemies aren't able to think about it they all get corralled over onto the safe path, completely revealing the route you're supposed to take when there really shouldn't be spots that are 100% safe at all

>>183650882
>>183651765
and shit, boss arena wasn't even elaborate
all ultras have knockback AoE, and reducing play area to push players next to ultra isn't elaborate

>>183651765
>>183651930
I just want to know: what even comes close to these in D1 that justifies calling it "more of the same"? So far, you had to simplify it to the core mechanics to do so without taking into account the whole picture. It's not very convincing.

Plus, calling it "more of the same" isn't necessarily a bad thing. Same could be said about most sequels out there, but that's beside the point I suppose.

>>183652421
Giant Minotaur boss isn't exactly the most exciting or groundbreaking Destiny boss. I personally liked Protheon, his design and evolution as the battle goes on, and I felt the strike had a different flow than the D1 ones.

>>183640194
We've had people come in a spoil scenes from the cinematics in detail before they've been publicly released.

>>183652421
>what even comes close to these in D1 that justifies calling it "more of the same"?
This is a loaded question. It's not "something" which makes it not feel different, but the lack thereof which makes it not feel very different from before.

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>>183640229
>screaming at my teammates for not joining the raid in time

Dude what

>>183653262 (Me)
Actually, I take that back, I read "D1" as "D2"

Though that being said, the drill and boss arena are not huge changes. The amount of change form DLC to DLC in D1 was about as big as the amount of change introduced in D2 aside from class changes.

>no rumble
>no ranked playlists
>no dedicated servers
>no 60fps
>no private march

how is this a competitive game in any way? I like pvp right now but I think it's just honeymoon phase. Needs variety. No rumble is just inexcusable

>>183654228
ranked might be there at some point

its 60 fps on pc

private matches are coming after launch

its not competitive and never will be no matter how hard Bungo tries to make it so

>>183654228
>rumble
>competitive
Nearly every rumble match I played in 1 was me plus one or two dudes racing to see who could curbstomp the rest of the room faster.

I don't really need it to be competitive though, I just want it to be balanced so that I don't feel like I'm gimping myself when I try to throw some variety into my life.

>>183651930
Bullet sponge? He's a boss that has actual mechanics. Maybe he does have a lot of HP, but how fast do you have to kill him so that he doesn't count as a bullet sponge? Because to me, a bullet sponge is an enemy that's exactly the same as a regular enemy you encounter but instead of having a new mechanic or gimmick which makes them difficult, they just have more HP and do more damage aka Artificial Difficulty. So, for example, a Cabal legionnaire but with triple HP for no reason.

>>183649287
I was considering, but nah. I just logged out as I feel I got everything I wanted to. 11.5 hours in one session feels like enough to sate me until the release.

>>183654813
>actual mechanics

he has 98k HP and you do, what, 80 dmg per headshot with the Scathelocke? 900 with the sniper? he can have all the mechanics in the world but if i have to spend 10 minutes shooting the fucking thing, its boring.

veist a shit

>>183654813
>a bullet sponge is an enemy that's exactly the same as a regular enemy you encounter but instead of having a new mechanic or gimmick which makes them difficult, they just have more HP and do more damage aka Artificial Difficulty
How many new mechanics does the boss have? Bungie couldn't even be arsed to change his weaknesses with each phase. It's health and DPS, plus the occasional knockback stomp. Sometimes he moves around but it isn't as though this changes how hard it is to hit him. Why not have a boss that chases you through a jumping puzzle, why not put a boss in the drill area or something?

>>183655179
>no one uses low impact anything in Destiny 1
>I know, lets make an entire manufacturer that does nothing but low impact, high RoF guns that look like they came from Mt. Dew and Monster

veist is the worst

>>183655215
because they need to make the game simple enough for people to subconsciously play it

bungie will never add interesting mechanics that demand player engagement in Destiny since it was probably never intended to be that way. because odds are a good portion of the player base still finds those simple mechanics difficult to grasp

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>>183655215
It's refreshing to come to this general and see others bitching about the shitty boss. How did Bungie make decent bosses in Halo yet fail here? 343 makes better bosses than Bungie can.

>get to boss
>it literally just wanders around the room, spending ~10 seconds locked on to someone before switching targets and spawning adds
>repeat until phase 2 when the floor disappears
>now it's a CIRCLE room! whoa!
>boss still just wanders around like a retard
>but wait, different adds!
>phase 3
>he becomes a different colors
>different adds
>boss AI is still retarded
And what's with this shit where if you get relatively close to the boss you instantly die? This isn't Super Mario, what the fuck

>>183655251
>product placement the armory
I'm sad to see them ditching Red Bull, I don't want to buy Mt Dew and Monster for my rare Sparrow.

>>183655251
>>183655179
Is there a Viest gun in the beta?

>>183655409
If that's the reason, that's phony baloney. FF14 has difficult, highly involved boss fights and that is popular.

>>183655414
>And what's with this shit where if you get relatively close to the boss you instantly die?

You're gonna love it when the full game comes out and you see each class has a subclass with a dedicated melee tree, making them completely useless outside of "funning around".

>>183655542
The Sniper, the Linear Fusion Rifle, an SMG, a Sidearm, an Auto Rifle and a Scout. Are you blind?

>>183655414
>decent bosses in Halo
They're the same shit. Bullet sponge enemies that spawn adds and walk around the room. Big woop, take the nostalgia goggles off. At least with this one you have to dodge the fire he puts on the floor, deal with his changing weapons, watching out for his disorienting canon blasts, and watch out for the fanatics who drop electric goo on the floor.

>>183655414
>How did Bungie make decent bosses on Halo
Nigga what? Seriously what the fuck are you saying? Stick to Killzone.

>>183655179
the smg is pretty good in pvp
linear fusion is good in PVE
sidearm is garbage but so are the others
scout is terrible but I think thats because scouts are pretty bad in general. the other one isn't too great either

As someone waiting for the pc beta, what's the game like so far?

>>183655661
boring.

>>183652421
I'd say it's more prolonged and bland
>run all the fucking way over there to kill minotaur to access conflux to activate platforms
>wave of enemies spawn in bad positions far away you just want to run through to the ring man cannons
>the room inside is a kill everything checkpoint (concentration of enemies is alright just here through)
>outside ""battlefield" is empty as shit
>have to run across to kill checkpoint majors
>low density wave defense on drill platform
>run all the way from cabal man cannon to boss area
>dps then wait x2
>grind down damage while running around
falling floor is wasting time, burning floor with knockback (and that many times) makes killing mobs and dealing damage annoying, AoE enabled ultra moving closer to you in a cramped platform with thin covers to knock you into pool as well as hitscan your shit is annoying
only thing that would actually chase you in D1 was end SABER, but that was short range, no knockback and his critical would be exposed to whoever it is currently chasing

the 1 thing they tried to do, but then left it dead in that strike was the area damage from the fanatics
fanatics should be constantly pouring into and around the last area for you to blow them up and deal damage to boss
that would've been proper different

>>183655661
Compared to the first? Underwhelming certain parts of the game are fun but a lot of the complaints stems from balancing issues. This Beta is apparently a few months old now so hopefully it gets fixed in the PC beta and in the full release

>>183655595
I really don't think its that far fetched. MMO players are pretty skilled gamers in general. but if you go on destiny reddit or bungie forums you'll find no shortage of posts complaining about pve being too hard. we know PVE is a joke and the real endgame is pvp, but destiny being an fps from an iconic developer has attracted a lot of casual gamers.

>>183655414
>"jump on this old dudes wheelchair and punch him in the face a couple times"
like I'll grant you that halo's bosses were typically better but they weren't particularly remarkable

>>183655005
>he can have all the mechanics in the world but if i have to spend 10 minutes shooting the fucking thing, its boring.

I disagree completely. For a strike boss he had mechanics like a raid boss, which is great.

As long as I'm not chasing him back and forth like Valus Ta'aurc, I'm fine.

3 distinct phases? All completely different? with an enrage at the end? In a STRIKE? Shit, I'll take it any day of the week.

>>183656061
The problem is none of those mechanics are interesting more than once. There's such little complexity to it that mastery only takes 1 run and then there's nothing new to that entire fight.

Shieldbros were THE best strike boss. Betaboy is second place but he's just the perfection of a bland idea, anything short of shieldbros is no bueno for me.

>>183656061
>Three phases! Ohh yeeeahhhh mister craaabs!
it's dark souls 3 dlc all over again

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>>183656061
>shoot him moving around
>shoot him in the middle
>shoot him moving around then the middle

>distinct
>completely different

>brother and I go into the Inverted Spire Strike to explore Nessus and fuck around
>kept dicking around, blinking to our repeated, grizzly deaths during cannon jumps
>3 people quit on us before we made it to the drill site
>pushed 1 to his death over the edge with a Pike
>took us an hour to complete the strike
We're the worst fireteam ever. I love it. Can't wait for the full game to come out.

Skolas is still the most difficult PVE encounter in all of Destiny

Shame he didn't get raised to 390

>>183656456
He WAS the most difficult and then they got rid of the burns.

>>183655524
i can't wait to get fat on dewstiny2

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>>183656438
>playing defuse the bomb
>enemy team is down
>bomb still active
>sprint over as fast as possible
>ally defusing it
>knee him in the face
>he has to restart
>we lose the round
I'm the best titan

>>183656587
true, but only if you didn't have ghorn

Is the open beta for PS4 still going? iirc it was only for a few days but I won't have access to my console for another few hours at least.

>>183656806
they're extending it until tuesday

>>183656806
it got extended but allegedly you need to download it before a certain point or the download link will go away

>>183656943
>>183656982
Gotcha thanks

>>183656254
Nothing is interesting more than once. What a non statement.

>>183656420
>ignoreing the different moveset everytime
>ignoreing the fact that you spend the fight dismantleing him.

All in a strike. It's fantastic.

>>183656456
>skolas
>hard

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>>183657516
what different moveset?
and removing is head is not dismantling him

dismantling him would be actually interesting

>>183657568
its not hard but still the hardest thing destiny ever had to offer

>>183657691
fuck off weeb

>>183657691
Not with you lol

>>183657691
Bruh you wanna play d2?

>>183657794
Maybe if you're trash

Don't give the pedophile (you)s

>>183656661
Makes me feel bad when I was the last guardian standing playing defense, I got killed, but still stalled long enough taking 3 enemies down with me for the detonation to occur, and we still won the round.

>>183658019
n o t
w i t h
y o u
l o l

>>183657758
You remove his armor (twice, progressively, giving you another critzone), his arm, and then his head.

The moveset between the three (four if you count enrage) is different, he keeps is machine gun till phase four but gains new abilities every floor.

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>tfw unbroken three games in a row
lol NOBODY takes the power ammo.

>>183658064
drin is a pedophile?

i thought he just liked weeb shit

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>>183658183
kill yourself lolitard

>>183658019
You buying destiny 2 for pc bruh?

>>183658231
im surprised there aren't more fights for it
I only mind if people pick it up while not using the fusion or shotgun

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>degenerate anime posters

>>183658352
I've literally watched people spawn and run away from it. Like I'm trying to share the wealth, but no one wants it.

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>>183658457

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>>183658457
>haha its just a drawing of a 10 year old girl (male) haha

>>183658457
Sorry, can't play with pc cucks then.

>>183656661
I love how this game attracts a nice mixture of animefags and football posters
>giant titan shoulders.png

>>183643235
suck some Eliksni dick, yeeees?

>>183658767
It's called soccer you eurotrash

>>183645138
you forgot Xur

>>183658859
the mention of giant titan shoulders should have tipped you off to the fact that I actually was talking about burgerball

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>>183658457
>just drawings

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>>183659095
TL;DR

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>>183659095
every time

>>183659234
i thought drin only liked 5 heads

>go to bnet forums
>"long ttk makes the game less competitive"

Has Destiny 1 catering to streamers and kids who need to lone wolf sniper shotty killed any hope of reviving this game?

>>183659095
>people don't have to exist to be hurt
I get where they are coming from, but that would set a really retarded precedent.
If we can hurt an anime girl, whos to say that online bullying is any better?

>>183659651
no, but it does make the game less fun.

team shooting isn't fun. being forced to hold hands with teammates while traversing the map isn't fun. having incredibly slow ability cooldowns isn't fun.

its only "more competitive" insofar as its more dependent on gunskill but even that gets overshadowed by the amount of people you have firing at the enemy.

>>183658767
But what if I'm an animefag who mains a Titan?

>>183659985
thats like being a gay republican

>>183658930
Can't play football in destiny faggot

>>183659783
>teamwork is not fun IMA LONE WOLF

(You)

>>183658815
Yes, but only because the courts are absurdly bullshit about "obscenity".

>>183660070
nor can you watch anime in destiny retard

>>183660193
Where the fuck did i mention anime, you dumb bitch?

>>183660139
you can meme all you want but its not. they even went out of their way to build a "quickplay" and a "competitive" playlist but they both require the same base level of teamwork. its stupid. either make them different or put it all in the same playlist. there's no difference between quickplay and comp outside of the modes available and thats retarded.

>>183660235
>teamwork is not fun GOD DAMMIT ITS NOT FUN! I'M A LONE WOLF, I'M A CARRY! OH GOD WHY CAN'T I CARRY?!

Get fucked kid

>>183660231
go re read >>183658767 (Me)
>I love how this game attracts a nice mixture of animefags and football posters
You mistook football for soccer, then randomly brought up how football can't be played in destiny as a defense for your mistake, when neither of the things I'd listed could be played in destiny anyway, making your defense pointless. Sorry, kid.

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Play video games with me

Did they ever say Clash was going to be in or is every PvP mode going to be objective based?

>>183659745
It's not about hurting anime girls, its about offending the sensibilities of the judge, prosecuting lawyer, and/or jurors. The idea of people below the age of majority having sex offends them, and so any depiction of it is illegal.

That this is an abridgement of first amendment rights without due cause (since its a victimless "crime") only makes it even worse.

>>183660506
i don't play games with nerds.

>>183660510
it'll probably be in but its only gonna be 4v4.

>>183660456
And you replied to a person who was obviously talking about soccer in-game destiny 2. I know you're a dumb inbred eurotrash but sometimes you just have to take this L.

>>183660063
But I just want to be a big strong Exo Titan who protects an adorable little anime girl and rails her relentlessly every night with his vibro-double-cock.

IGN video tomorrow about exploring Nessus and a new PvP mode being revealed the day after

>>183660604
I'm not the replyer, the original comment on the subject was >>183658767, me. You brought up soccer when I was obviously talking about football, not the other way around, kid.

>>183660723
>wow there's like 2 things on Nessus to look at, look forward to launch!
>wow another 4v4 PvP mode that plays like every other mode, look forward to launch!

fuck off IGN.

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>They made the PvP Halo without the weapon variety, vehicles, and good map design
Good job oBungo.

>>183659783
>team shooting isn't fun
I don't get this. Even at the "pro" level, they mostly use a focus fire strategy on their opponents. Lone wolfing it up really only works when you're playing against shitters. Even a coordinated team isn't going to leave themselves open for that.

>>183660193
No, but anime did influence and inspire Destiny, because Bungie are giant fucking weebs.

>>183660718
so does every other warlock (male)

>>183660756
No? You replied to >>183656661
Who was obviously talking about football. Fucking eurotrash =eurobrain

>>183660235
>same level of teamwork
This is what the Destiny playerbase is like. The amount of broken one-hit-KO powers given to them have somehow removed their natural herd mentality and now they can't even conceive of how walking around together could happen naturally.

You don't need coordination to shooting zombie mans at the same time. If you're fighting and take too much fire, you duck behind cover and let the guy next to you get the kill. Then when he takes too much fire and hides you pop up and take the kill. Not a single word needs to be said. Not a single drop of fun is lost while you revel in the hectic chaos.

Why do we even have to explain this to Destiny casuals? So much cringe.

>>183660830
its fucking boring. wow, to play a casual, laid-back PvP match i have to actively join a team-chat with my team, thats probably already in a voice chat group on PSN/XBL so lol!! and then if i ever run into more than a single person i'm fucked, even if i have abilities, because the TTK on everything is so fucking long that i might as well not even be shooting unless there's at least 2 of us.

its fucking boring.

How much longer do I have to play the beta?
Might jump on and play a bit if it's still there.

>>183660830
>Even at the "pro" level
The fact D2's pvp is balanced around e-sports is all that needs to be said.

>>183660843
what an interesting fact

>>183660872
He was talking about bomb defusal, he's a football poster by virtue of the fact that he's a big-shouldered titan who hits things. Find the word soccer in that post once.

I'm just upset because I mostly pvp solo and it was easy to carry your team in D1 without having to rely on others.

If I wanted to play a team-based shooter I would go back to Overwatch.

>>183660872
>Who was obviously talking about football.
No I wasnt

>>183660935
there is no chaos. no one's flanking because if you do, you die because you're responsible for 1/4 of your teams firepower now and unless you only run into 1 person, all they have to do is turn around and kill you.

either you have the people to win the gunfight or you don't anymore. its barely about gunskill because even if you hit your headshots and the 2 guys you're fighting only hit bodies, they still win.

there's nothing at all interesting about being FORCED to play a specific certain way in PvP. the fact that you think there is, is absolutely retarded. there are tons of FPS out there that require team shooting and they've existed for ages. Destiny 1 was faster paced and had abilities to mix up the shooting. with those 2 things tanked, its just another generic shooter where if you run into more people than you have on your side, you die.

>>183660506
Not on ps4 my main man.

>those days of being excited when you found a decent weapon with good perks is now gone
Does anyone actually fixed rolls for non-exotics?

is Does Not Compute the most honorable weapon of the beta?

>>183661331
actually like*

>>183661415
Isn't honorable just a synonym for bad? That spot is taken by the nade launcher.

>>183661331
Yes, me. I fucking hate random rolls because the loot pool is absurdly huge and 99% of it is trash, so I'm stuck cleaning out garbage most of the time. And it's especially terrible for Raids, because you can only run a raid once a week, which means it takes literally over a decade to get a good set of raid gear, if you wanted one for fashion reasons.

Autistic grinders can fuck right off to any of the absurdly grindy Korean MMOs. Or Warframe, I hear Warframe is nice and grindy.

>>183660872
Yup. I was talking about soccer, no idea how that anon got american football.

I actually like the pvp changes, but I'm as average as average can get. I have exactly a1.0 K/D ratio lifetime ratio. I feel the changes are nice because if I happen to meet a player that would absolutly destroy me in 1v1, I actually have a chance now with my team fire and low TTK.

>>183661331
>Does anyone actually like fixed rolls for non-exotics?
Yes and no. If legendaries are easy to obtain, I don't mind having random perks so long as most of them aren't instant throwaway garbage perks, but if they're going to throw in "rare legendaries that totally aren't exotics" like grasp of malok then I don't really want to deal with that shit.

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>>183661636
>>183660872
samefag
inb4 merely pretending

>>183661760
Are you ok anon?
Spiders suck

>>183661760
KEEP US POSTED

>>183661331
Nope, hate it removes the grind of the game meaning less play time since once you get the best weapons there's no point to ever playing again. Hopefully armors have random rolls or else everyone is gonna be running around looking the same atleast we can grind for that
>>183661552
You can fuck right off faggot

>>183661857
Yeah, i was taking a shit and it was just there in the corner, i hope that faggot didn't lay any eggs somewhere...

>>183661898
armor and guns all have set rolls and perks now.

have fun grinding for mods to give you a +1 accuracy to your gun that already has good accuracy.

>>183661898
>do this thing ten times anon
>booo I don't wanna
>do this thing ten times, and I'll give you a cheevo
>AWE YEAH

>>183661539
i mean it's not meta at all but a solid 4 headshots to kill is pretty excellent

>>183661552
Warframe RNG extands to the mods,materials, and blueprint farming. But unlike Destiny weapon rolls, everything is the same until you mod it.

>>183661898
>it removes the grind
It removed some of the grind. I assure you, there are plenty of Korean MMOs that are super grindy despite having set stats on drops. Bungie clearly could not balance the randomness, and having it removed is an improvement to the loot system.

>>183662008
But three heads and a body doesn't kill? That's pretty honorable I guess. Does your res stat affect it?

>>183662079
fuck off bungie shill

>>183662131
>bungie was incapable of accomplishing this, so they backed out
>Shill!
what did he mean by this?

>>183662196
>set drops is an improvement

s h i l l

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>>183662079
Bungie had a balance for the randomness, and they discarded it because it made god rolls easy.

>>183662283
he's right though

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>>183662196
If you say anything good about Destiny 2, you're a Bungie shill. If you say anything bad about Destiny 2, you're a bdobbins shill. If you don't say anything at all, you're a cowardly faggot.

Welcome to 4chan, enjoy your stay.

>>183662375
the new system is the exact same problem as reforging. either a gun has a good roll or it doesn't. 90% of the loot pool will be straight trash, 5% might be good with a certain mod and the rest will be actually usable.

the new loot system changes nothing.

>>183662375
The problem with reforging was that it only applied to weapons.

The autists hated it because it meant them playing 20 hours a day every day no longer gave them a mechanical advantage in PvP.

>>183660723
>new PvP mode
better be fucking 5v5 or 6v6 if not CTF

>>183662008
ya, i guess some folks stacking res are taking an extra tap

>>183662506
Wut.

They are just keeping the main archetypes with different perks, but leveling it out.

The perks will be the "game changers"

>>183662598
>>183662647
>The problem with reforging

the problem with reforging is that it meant loot drops no longer mattered at all. guess what the new system does? the exact same thing. there's nothing to make your next Better Devils ANY different or more exciting than your first, so why is it exciting if another one drops?

>>183662623
are you legit autistic? they've said time and time again that every PvP mode going forward will be 4v4, no exceptions.

>>183662842
Weapons can drop with mods my man.

>>183662842
It isn't exciting. But it isn't exciting right now, either, because 99% of drops are shit. So you dismantle them for mats. Just like you'll do in Destiny 2.

>>183661552
Warframe's grind is hardly randomized. Raids reset daily and Sorties (Strikes) are also refreshed daily with different modifiers and mission sets. Everything earned in them will contribute to tangible progression unless you have reached the absolute pinnacle where there's no reason to earn any more Endo (a progression currency). There are generally no useless rewards for those endgame activities.

The real grind comes from farming the materials to farm the really good gear and mods (and then build them) which is strongly influenced by luck, but once you get them they have fixed stats just like what D2 is trying to do and are yours forever.

>>183662956
unless the mods completely and utterly change how the guns work its not gonna matter.

>>183662984
so they're trading one shitty system for another equally shitty system. great progress.

>>183636124
From what we've seen it's only voidwalkers

>>183661703
Having legendaries and exotics be super rare like in the beginning of D1 would be great. A hundred guys in the entire game with a really strong Super Space AK > a million players with that Space AK which everyone expects you to have just to meet the par.

did my connection go to shit or have they started yanking things out

>>183636124
get cucked huntard

>>183663003
>Warframe's grind is hardly randomized.
I didn't say it was random, I said it was grindy. I was giving it as an example of a MORPGFPS that grindanon could play since they felt Destiny 2 wasn't grindy enough for them.

>>183661331
no
they should have continued with what good they were doing right at the end of D1 with everything having decent perks
if they're going something like 1 perk is fixed no matter what then you can add your second perk that'd be fine
fixed armors are fucked

>>183661898
they remove a fuck load of RNG but then they just fix shit at the end
fuck that if you cannot get the gear you want at your wanted stats

>>183663079
>unless the mods completely and utterly change how the guns work
Uhhh, what?

How would that be relevant at all?

>>183663079
It means I don't have to spend 18 years grinding the raid just to get a well-rolled set of raid armor, so yes, great progress.

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>>183636289
why not ALL OF THEM

>>183663234
are you being facetious or are you legit retarded and can't follow a train of thought?

if a mod doesn't completely change how a gun functions, it doesn't matter. if a modded Better Devils isn't significantly better or different than a regular one, whats the fucking point? +3 accuracy, wow, i sure am glad this super rare modded one dropped for me!

the mods need to matter and for them to matter they have to change a lot about a gun.

one of the biggest problems in Destiny is its lack of progression and this system does absolutely nothing to fix that.

>>183661415
if you mean shat on and nerfed the fuck out in both modes then yeah

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So now that beta is coming to a close. How dId you guys feel about it as a whole? For me I feel like Hunters have been completely neutered (they don't even have fucking invisibility for revives which pissed me off). Titans are pretty well off I'd say, Sentinel seems it will be the most utilized for the actual game. Warlocks are the equivalent of weapons of light with that damage buff they can give and heals, seems they will go hand in hand with the Titans for raids in the future.

>>183663474
The beta has pushed me from "cautiously optimistic" to "worried".

>>183663342
>if a mod doesn't change my hand cannon into an auto rifle, it does not matter

Farmin those (You) 's huh?

Mods are a selectable perk, you idiot. Pretending it's just going to be base stats is retarded.

>>183663342
I think that for mods the best way to go about them is for mods to almost always give both a strong positive and a negative trait at the same time. Enough to make a modded Better Devils really stand out in a certain role but causes it to fail in something else. Then there's a reason to go hunting for duplicates of Better Devils so that you can have different versions to suit different activities. It's actually probably easier to balance things this way rather than going for straight positive stats only because if something goes wrong you can pull harder on the negative lever while still leaving the positive lever at a point where it makes a big difference.

>one of the biggest problems in Destiny is its lack of progression
At the same time it's also one of the reasons why it has its sizable fanbase. A shorter progression cycle means new people can get in faster and move on to endgame content (lmao PvP), but that comes at the cost of making it so that you have less of a reason to do anything after you get a decent version of [thing]. Maybe grind for a perfect version of [thing] but its not necessary.

>>183663326
>those Titan pauldrons
not gonna bother playing titans at all if every armor has fuck huge shoulders

>>183663642
>>if a mod doesn't change my hand cannon into an auto rifle, it does not matter


cool so you're being a facetious asshole for no reason, awesome.

>>183663474
>invisi shitter btfo

>>183663816
I'm not the one spouting "completely change how a gun functions" like a god damn trog.

>>183663474
demo

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>>183664417
kys weeb

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>>183664417

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>Titans are almost always front and center in advertising

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>>183663474
I feel like hunters got the short end of the shit stick.

>golden gun is cool
>it does shit damage
>dodge is cool and the reload/melee is nice
>takes too long to use and take too long to finish
>chain of woe helps fireteam
>it's not a notable speed boost to reloads
>mobility is a useless stat
needs work.

Titans
>at first glance walls seem dumb
>they're awesome
>removed one shot melees
>force barrier get put on nearby teammates
>lighting grenades nerfed
perfect


warlocks
>weak super
>looks cool
>in air dodge
>it has a cool down
>nova bomb gutted
>nova tracks like a jew chasing a dollar down the street
>rifts are neat
could be better.

>>183664547
Yeah, i feel like they could have had hunter's been a double tap instead of holding down O

>we have at least another year of Hunters crying about their skillsets

great job bungie

Has anyone else gone flawless but kept getting the same gun? I've gone flawless 6 times but I've gotten blind perdition 5 out of those times. It's a great pulse but I don't need almost two for every character.

>>183664547

Warlocks feel awful until you realise they're somehow the new mobility class

>Blink is ridiculous again
>Aiming from glide AND having an air dodge is crazy useful

Makes up for the shit-tier supers

>>183664547
Better Golden Gun:
Takes 30 minutes of any game time to charge, cannot be sped up by orbs, starts all over again if guardian is downed

One shots anything in the game. Anything and everything. If a boss has multiple stages then it only works for one stage.

When activated, guardian holsters gun and points out his finger at the target. "Pew pew". Hitscan bolts.

>>183664765
>>183664547
We are missing our 3rd class we will get.

They removed stealth which to me, means that it will be put into nightstalker(which makes sense thematically)

>>183664838
I feel like they don't even want warlocks to use their supers.

>>183664909
Most likely

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>>183664527
Of course they are you limpwristed faggot WE LEAD THE WAY

>>183665086
You lead us to damnnation.

While you were letting a god damn armada blow down our tower we were put trying to win the war.

ONE. FUCKING. JOB.

>>183664905
I'm just asking for it to kill a trash mob was as warlocks asking fir dawn blade to on be trash at killing trash.

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>>183665086
Hunters made the path

>>183665086
>>183665391
Why are the expansion covers so god tier but the game covers are ass

Im thinking about rolling hunter in D2 because i hate lift jumps, but i die so fast when playing hunter /:

>>183649149

I want nightstalker back, otherwise yea, I'm not to happy.

>>183665585
>Bungie are low effort kikes so they didn't do something as simple and keep 2 of the old subclasses while having the 2 new ones

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>>183665693
>You liked the old subclasses more? Go fuck yourself, you don't get to choose between two for each element, use our new shit or get bent

>>183665391
But since we're viewing from behind, the hunter is really in the back

>>183665876
>Warlock is leading the way
Fucking suicidal Sunsingers I swear

>>183665568
Because the game came out first.

>>183665919
He probably has his super up

they need waay the fuck more developer interviews about what the shit they're doing with everything
I thought they were trying to be more transparent about everything

How many expansions/new games before we can actually change all of the emotes and not just the one

>>183666446
Oh they'll be plenty transparent AFTER release once they already have your 60 dollarydoos Anon, just like Destiny 1.

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>>183665208
>Hunters unable to spot a GIANT FUCKING ARMADA en route to Earth
>Warlocks unable to translate the Cabal language or give us any meaningful intel before the assault
But sure, blame Titans, it's not like most of us died saving your asses during the Battle of Twilight Gap or anything. We don't need time to replenish our ranks at all. Nosiree.

>>183665693

I just liked it cause it was so support centric along with a bunch of cool mobile shit, Never liked the other 2 and quite frankly I feel pole dance just fucking sucks, especially against bosses since they still have the fuck you bitch get away from me move.

>>183666695
>blame shifting

Your job was to protect the god damn city. Good job, you faggots.

>>183666893
At this point I'm blaming industry because WHERE THE FUCK ARE OUR WARSHIPS OR FIGHTERS TO SCRAMBLE AGAINST SOMETHING LIKE THIS
HOW DID WE OVERLOOK THAT

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>>183665391
That helmet still fucking gets me.
The first couple of times I saw it I thought the hunter was facing us, but wearing a serape or some shit.

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>>183666893
>>183666985
>Bungie got rid of Sunbreakers so there couldn't be an entire firing line of them hurling fireballs at the armada

>>183666446
Destiny 2 is going to launch with exactly the same amount of content as Destiny 1 did and they aren't talking about any of the new features because there are none.

Think of like this: You think there's going to be a Prison of Elders equivalent at launch in D2? Don't you think they'd say something about it by now? No way man, that's Expansion pack stuff right there.

>>183666893
And Hunters' jobs were to scout out incoming threats so they could be dealt with before they made it to the city. And Warlocks' jobs were to gather information about the enemy so we could better fight them, and recover golden age technology to aid us. It looks like everybody dropped the ball, eh?

We did the best we could with the resources at hand.

>>183666985
The city just straight up does not have the resources to build an armada, let alone one capable of taking on the Red Legion. Especially since we keep losing ships to the Fallen, and we probably lost a bunch against Oryx's Dreadnaught.

>>183666704
Are we even going to get nightstalker back? Because if not then no one should even be playing hunter since the other classes are more suitable for everything.

>>183667156
>It looks like everybody dropped the ball, eh?
Cabal Bane was right, we had gotten too cushy and complacent.