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>>>DG CLAN<<<
https://www.bungie.net/en/Clan/Detail/720158

>>NEWS<<<
PC Details: http://www.pcgamer.com/destiny-2-pc-reveal/
IGN First: http://ie.ign.com/articles/2017/07/03/destiny-2-all-the-newest-details-in-one-place-a-ign-first
Latest TWAB: https://www.bungie.net/en/News/Article/46077/

>>>RESET INFO<<<
Nightfall: The Sunless Cell w/ Arc Burn, Berserk, Brawler, Airborne, and Daybreak
Heroic Strikes: Small Arms, Chaff, and Airborne
Heroic Story: Specialist and Grounded
Crucible Weekly: Zone Control
Xur: The Tower, by the Speaker
Trials of Osiris: The Cauldron

Weekly Featured Raid: Crota's End
Deathsinger Challenge: Must attain sword from Knight after clearing all adds and then taking the sword and killing Ir Yût with it.
Crota Challenge: No one can drop the sword and no one can wield the sword twice.

>>>IGN<<<
Social Space: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YX9udnSr1c
Bungie's Vision: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FulKz9pnvfU
Milestones & Flashpoints: http://ca.ign.com/articles/2017/07/07/destiny-2-hands-on-update-july-2017-flashpoints-milestone-and-our-early-impressions-a-ign-first
Changes to Control: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9--zq2MxUaw
PvP Map Tour Endless Vale: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCxhpRAY9uk
Creating the Story: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmH5jv12DjI
Creating the Sentinel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6FYVuSDPT0
PvP Map Tour Vostok: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sxn4pIV41xQ
Sound and Music: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TXj5z9h_7Y
Closer look at Cabal: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTws5eBDn90
Localization: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cr5BY5i92tQ
Nessus and other Patrol Stuff: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5QlGmv8-5c
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Alpha Team runs /dg/
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>>183743460
Who?
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Titans are objectively inferior in every way now. They are entirely pointless as a class, aside from being a raid Bubble Bitch.

And Bungero will never fix them because people still play as the class, so somehow that justifies their objectively inferior melee, grenades, movement, and everything else?

At least in D1 we had skating and pre-nerf Knee.
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>>183742702
has bungie actually tied each of those races, humans and the golden age to some specific kardashev scale?
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is it over?
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WHY THE FUCK IS THERE STILL NOTHING TO DO DURING LOADING?!?!

YOU'D THINK FOR A GAME WITH SO MUCH GOD DAMN LOADING THEY'D AT LEAST LET YOU PLAY PONG

FUCK ME
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>>183743998
Is what over?
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>>183743321
Why does nobody like D2 bros?
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>>183744091
That's what the companion app is for.
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>>183744181
Some people do. But most people are PvE casuals, and the absurd nerfing for PvP mlg tryhards, combined with the total lack of tuning in PvE, has made Destiny's PvE boring.
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>>183743964
Nah, but the cabal are the only race in the solar system that got to extrasolar space without the traveler being somehow involved.

They deserve the light, they fight the darkness and are willing to do what needs to be done.
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Did anyone here get the Age of Triumph shirt?
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>>183744621
How much is it? debating on buying it or not
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>>183744621
Yes, it is comfortable
>>183744712
$777,777
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>>183744712
$25 once you use the discount code.
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>>183744621
Yes, the GT on the sleeve is pretty small and not garish, the shirt is extra comfy
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>buying Destiny merch when there's no in game reward
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>>183745770
Upset your not getting the shirt, scrub?
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>>183743917
>Shoulder charge is aoe
>pulse grenade is top tier now
>fistS of AOE fields
>suncharge
>2 grenades
I'm seriously considering dropping warlock for titan.
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>>183745770
The shirt is the reward anon, you get plenty of in game rewards earning your way up to it.
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>>183746183
Nigga pls
>>183746393
If you really want the shirt, no one is stopping you. I just don't see the value in spending 25$ on it when there's other potential items that would be more valuable. The emblems from the book are free, all the other emblems from the soundtracks, Bungie foundation, holiday items, apparel, etc. require purchases.
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>>183746237
>2 grenades
>melee/shoulder AOE

did you pull those out of your ass

I don't see that shit in the beta anywhere
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>>183746237
>fistS

Why the emphasis on the S.
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>Got an exotic every match for the last four matches

So did Bungo break the game or is my luck finally kicking in as the game ends?
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>>183746729
I already have the shirt, no need to type all that shit nigga
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>>183747173
It's a roaming super
>>183747018
Get better at reading? Striker top tree is shoulder charge which is an aoe that gives grenade energy for every enemy damaged. As far as I can tell there is no regular melee, shoulder charge is the melee.
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so, has anyone asked bungie what they're gonna do with dupes yet?
and if they're keeping fixed armors?
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Is Mark Noseworthy Jewish?
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>>183744814
>>183744994
What shirt sizes did you get? Was it the right size? Nothing aggravates me more than buying clothes online. I use S sizes most of the time but some M shirts fit me well too, so, what the heck.
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>>183747775
who nose
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>>183748116
No, just a manlet. This is not Destiny.
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>tfw all your teammates head for B first
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>>183747892
Medium, but I guess I went down a couple sizes.
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>Need three more Control wins
>Keep getting 6k easy while my team shits the bed with less than 1k each
>Lose last five matches

I feel like I've been put in the video game special olypmics.
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>>183748210
>tfw none of your teammates do
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>>183748210
>all enemies go to b
>throw lightning grenade
>... TRIPLE DOWN
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Please correct me if I'm wrong
>Armor and weapon drops now have static perk rolls
>Mods that can be put on weapons do up 10+ in a given stats, barely doing anything
>Titans are now the worst class due being slowed down, given the worst melee and the fact armor not mattering now because everyone is going to default to whatever has the most resilience
>Mobility LITERALLY does almost nothing
>Shoulder charge is RIP
>NO FUCKING SUNBREAKERS OR NIGHTSTALKERS ON LAUNCH
>Hunter abilities across the board have been gutted
>Movement overall is toned down
> Shotguns, fusions and snipers are reserve for power ammo for whatever fucking reason
>No machine guns means no thunderlord or its brethren
Tell me, who actually likes these changes? I was excited for the beta but after learning of all the changes, I'm genuinely disappointed. Even with all its faults, Destiny was a unique experience. All these changes do is slow things down and bottle neck people into one path.
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>>183748680
Feel like a lot of this shit was honestly to appease the PEECEE MASSA RACE crowd because they want a more 'competitive' experience. Fucking sucks.
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>>183748994
>can aim fast as shit with mouse
>can tap buttons fast as shit
>macro shit up

>anyone PC wanting slower gameplay
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>>183748680
All 100% accurate.

Titan got permaraped. There is no coming back from this, unless there's some super secret third subclass that gives your Titan a twelve foot long dick.
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>>183748680
>>Mods that can be put on weapons do up 10+ in a given stats, barely doing anything
just fucking stat? not a perk?
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>>183749378
He's talking out his ass. We don't know how big an effect mods will have because we haven't seen any yet.

However, I vaguely recall some ancient spoilers that talked about a lot of this shit, which said that there will be different tiers of mod, and that most of endgame is chasing after the highest tier of mod. But we'll see if its true at launch
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>>183748680
>expecting dlc content in a base game
nigger what
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>>183748680
I like how shitters can't rely on their 1 shot kill abilities anymore and actually have to shoot
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>>183749864
>expecting dlc content from the first game to be in the launch of the second game
yea I sure had unrealistic expectations
>>183750575
(You)
>>183749378
>>183749260
>>183748994
I'm honestly just really sad, not even angry or frustrated. Just another good game gone down the shitter because of incompetent devs, and normies that love Esports
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Idea for hunter dodges: very low to almost nonexistent cooldown to use but the special effect has its own separate cooldown. Damage reduction always applies.

Roll around to your hearts content but remember to only trigger the special ability when you really need it. In a way this means the melee one is "safer" because it will only expend itself when melee energy is not at 100%, so you can never use it at the wrong time.
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calling it now, we're never going to get the TTK subclasses back, because they're going to turn them into something else just like the subclasses they've shown
even the ones that have the same name and super as their older counterpart have drastically different skill trees, even accounting for them being clustered and shrunk
we might see the return of one or two grenades, one or two melee abilities, maybe an older perk, but that's about it
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I'm on the fence about Destiny 2. If i have disposable income by the time it releases i will probably buy it because its more Destiny and admittedly i was 100% addicted to the first game but man they fucked up a lot in some areas.
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>the beta's still up
looks like they've extended the beta for another day again
https://twitter.com/Bungie/status/889695393482547200
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>>183748408
>All Enemies go to B
> Toss Lightning Grenade
>Team Wipe.
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>>183754445
It was already known to be extended until Tuesday night
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>all this talk about mods
>you can't just get an blank exotic weapon frame and make your own gun with perks and stat mods
>you can't get exotic stat mods off of raid bosses
>you can't get shitty perk mods from strike bosses
>you can't get Exotic perk mods off of nightfall rewards

just fuck my shit up
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>>183754763
I'm envisioning a gun like the one in republic commando and my dick is diamonds.
Bungo pls, make this happen.
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>>183747892
XL
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>>183754763
Unique class gun

Here they give you a different starting boost Exotic depending on which class you are at the start. So at the end of the game in a faraway DLC you will get to build your own customizable weapon and its type is tied to your class.

Titans will get an HMG to put in the power slot
Warlocks will get a continuous beam weapon of some sort (constant fire fusion rifle?)
Hunters will get break-action shotguns

>>183749586
You sure it was spoilers and not some of our own reasoned speculations? That's really only one of the few ways you can maintain the grind with the new system.
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>>183754607
>mfw I thought it was Tuesday on and off all day
I guess he working world has me in its clutches, I can't even keep track of the days now if I don't have work hovering over me to think about
>tfw not NEET any more
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>>183755713
>break action
>not a leaver action sniper rifle
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>>183751080
(you) have nothing to say, shitter.
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>>183754763
considering what they did with the Khvostov 7G-0X I think it's a good possibility we'll see this, but the gun that has it will be the only one of its kind, and it'll end up nerfed because people will build god rolls
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>>183756209
but the god rolls will be locked behind many layers of RNG. locked behind bosses and weekly lock outs.

>sights
>barrels
>mags
>triggers
>perk slots/rails
>grips
>mods
>perks
>stat mods

let's say 30 in each category for each gun class. I'd say getting the god roll for your gun would be a pretty good time sink.
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>>183748680
>NO FUCKING SUNBREAKERS OR NIGHTSTALKERS ON LAUNCH
Source?
In one trailer you can see a sunbreaker in the crucible for a split second.
I know someone here has the screencap somewhere
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>>183757525
Bet you anything you're right, but that it's also gonna be cut content saved for the first xpac
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>>183748680
>> Shotguns, fusions and snipers are reserve for power ammo for whatever fucking reason
snipers have been OP from day one
if they'd just put them in the heavy slot at the beginning and had sidearms already set up (or had sidearms and hand cannons switched around) we probably would've been golden
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I'm 98% done.

Technically I could just do Trials or Raida, but fuck other people. I will gladly spent all day tomorrow finding every Ghost if it means I can get that stupid T-shirt and never play this game again.
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>>183758512
Would have been interesting if Sidearms were originally occupying the spot where HCs were, and with the actual !revolver HCs being a power weapon.
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>>183758526
KEEP ME POSTED
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>>183757525
That Titan is only red because he got hit by the hunters Sunshot HC. If you don't believe me boot up the strike as a hunter and shoot your teammates with the HC it gives the same effect that screenshot does
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>Go to check all the news on Destiny 2
>The entire internet hates Destiny 2
>See criticism
>It's literally all the exact same criticism from Destiny 1 launch, but everyone knows not to get bamboozled this time

Destiny was the video game equivalent of the Walking Dead, where everyone played it because it's not good now, but it COULD get good later on and we'll hang on in hopes that it does.

Glad to see Bungie is getting the assfucking they deserve.
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>>183762028
Most of the criticism is uninformed criticism along with hate bandwagonning
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>>183762486
>Uninformed Criticism
>All the videos on the subject are actually recorded by the creators time during the beta themselves

lol wut how can it be uninformed if they literally played it

And more importantly isn't most of the criticism:

>Netcode is still shit
>Destiny PvP multiplayer is still a bland, uninspired shooter of worse game design that Call of Duty 4 and nowhere close to Halo due to lack of weapon / map control
>PvE Strike included is just, yet again, another boring strike you will be forced to play endlessly forever and ever
>The notoriously bad net code is still shit and will always be some degree of shit due to Peer to Peer multiplayer with heavy emphasis on 3 dimensional movement

Plus some other criticisms about things that admittedly are probably easily fixed such as PvE vs PvP balancing of abilities and Super timers in PvP?

What about any of this is wrong?
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>>183763329
Power ammo spawns are the new resource control mechanic.
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>>183763541
This didn't work in Destiny 1 so why do you think it's going to work in Destiny 2 if you just cause you add Snipers to the LMG and Rocket launcher category?
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>>183763329
>>Destiny PvP multiplayer is still a bland, uninspired shooter of worse game design that Call of Duty 4 and nowhere close to Halo due to lack of weapon / map control
The main appeal of Destiny is the PvE Bungie is trying to force Destiny PvP as a Esport but it will never work.
>>PvE Strike included is just, yet again, another boring strike you will be forced to play endlessly forever and ever
The new Strike in the beta blows any of the strikes in Destiny 1 out of the water! It's a major step up from Bungie to make strikes feel like a strike should be instead of just a regular mission but with 3 people.

9 times out of 10 if you go into something hating it already your gonna likely hate it no matter what and that sounds like exactly what you did...
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>>183764650
>blow any of the strikes from 1 out of the water
Yeah, the drill stuff was pretty neat, but devils lair is still my favorite.
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>>183764650
>The main appeal of Destiny is the PvE
This is actually kind of wrong because Bungie, a studio KNOWN for creating one of the most influential campaigns in gaming as well as one of the most popular, well known multiplayer franchises... The appeal of Destiny was that it was going to be both - an MMORPG Halo plus a newer version of Halo multiplayer

>[if you go into it hating it you'll hate it]
>and that sounds like exactly what you did...

Wow actually keeping an open mind and not automatically dick sucking Bungie like people did in Destiny 1 where it only "got good" after Taken King means I must AUTOMATICALLY hate Bungie and am acting biased.

And this line you said, right here

>major step up from Bungie to make strikes feel like a strike should be

What do you mean what a strike "should" be? How do you know what a strike should be? Are you employed by Bungie? Do you have the design documents? Can you craft me a comprehensive argument for why Strikes are designed the way they are, how Destiny 1's failed and why these are better as infinitely replayable missions vs just having all missions be replayable and issuing marks for doing them?

I'm pretty sure you are just a Bungie Dickrider and nothing I say will convince you that the game has flaws such as how having three dimensional movement in a peer to peer network infrastructure is, objectively, a bad fucking idea.

or tldr, kill yourself at the earliest convenience
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>>183765363
tldr, kill yourself at the earliest convenience for the sake of the general
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>>183766019
>/dg/
>/dicksucking general/
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>>183765363
>how should a strike feel
It should feel like it requires 3 people to complete rather than it just being a single player mission that throws 2 other people in with you for the hell of it.

I don't think inverted spire does this though until the last phase of the boss.
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Okay, on one hand I totally agree with: >>183764650 on how much I enjoyed that Strike, but I also agree with >>183765363 because I also agree that Strikes as a substitute for actually replayable content, and any real endgame, is a terrible idea. The fact that we've all just accepted that Strikes are going to just continue to be the solution is fucking retarded. How are we sitting here like that's remotely okay? Destiny's most fundamental, glaring flaw was that it's endgame was replaying the same four fucking Strikes over and over and fucking over.

Are we really such fucking shills that we'll thoughtlessly pay another $60 for another four Strikes we'll have to grind for the entire 'endgame'?

That sucks, man. That sucks balls. They're fucking Bungie and Activision. If they cared, they'd give us nephalem rifts.
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>>183766852
>nephalim rifts
>procedurally generated fps
Ugh, no.
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>>183747691
>what are they gonna do with dupes

nothing

>keeping fixed armors

yes, everything has fixed rolls.
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>>183762028
Basically we waited this long and this is what we get. Its not bad but its nothing special which is dissapointing to say the least.
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>>183766850
If they make a boss which can only be damaged by shooting it in the back (with no other gimmicks), that's enough of a justification for a strike. Better yet, uncommon regular enemies that have the same gimmick.

Only the fastest former Lek'golo killers can hope to do it alone.
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>if you lightly tilt the left stick and the right stick at the same time in the social space you still slide around

brand new engine they said
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>>183767054
>>183766852
Realms of Fate type-of-deal would probably be better suited

i.e. ripped up sections of handmade pre-existing locations stuck together
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>>183768097
It's not a brand new engine as much as a heavily refined version of the Blam engine
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How long I got left to play the b8a?
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>>183768657
til 6pm pacific on the 25th
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>>183754763
>>you can't get exotic stat mods off of raid bosses
>>you can't get shitty perk mods from strike bosses
>>you can't get Exotic perk mods off of nightfall rewards
all good ideas
>inb4 bungie finally decide to copy 2 years later
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>>183768657
why don't you fucking google it you retarded shitposting cretin
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>>183764650
>blows any of the strikes in Destiny 1 out of the water!
not devils lair
not nexus and revamp nexus
not winters run and revamp winters run
not undying mind
not not shield brothers
not sunless cell
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>>183768956
and not echo chamber
and not shadow thief
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>>183768956
>devils lair
boring as all get out. defend a point for 3 waves, then sit back and snipe a walker and then a boss fight. awful strike.

>nexus
wow dude, 3 servitors and then nothing until the boss that everyone and their mother cheesed, how fun

>nexus revamped
same shit except you have to actually engage the boss, how exciting

>winters run
run past everything and then fight the boss

>winters run revamped
run past everything and then fight the boss

>undying mind
only fun for the super spam and even then its short and not worth the time

>shield brothers
boring

>sunless cell
the one good strike you listed
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>>183769098
what the fuck is inverted spire then?
run fucking ages to kill some minotaurs to run fucking ages to kill 2 majors to weak as fuck wave defense to run fucking ages to boss to grind him down and wait twice and finish grinding him down

at least you felt powerful throughout the strikes and they weren't padded like mad
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>>183769098
>Devil's Lair
Fight your way through several hive combatants before defending a module your ghost uses to hack through a fallen laser wall. Then, engage a Devil Walker in a large open area. After that, move onwards through a large wave of Fallen into a small, enclosed area where you fight a large servitor
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>>183769378
i'm not the one arguing its a good strike, but its not like destiny 1 is chock full of awesome strikes.

arguing about how powerful you feel is moot since you're 10 light lower than the enemies in the strike and you're using a random assortment of weapons that may or may not be suited to the strike itself.

>>183769483
wow thanks mr. wikipedia. your in-depth description doesn't make the strike more interesting or fun.
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>>183769549
And it sure doesn't make Inverted Spire any better than the middle of the pack strike it is. It's not any better than any other Destiny Strike. Fight two big bads. Defend your Nolanbot. Fight the big bad sponge. Done
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>>183769549
>10 light lower
that's the story mission
you're fucking weaker because there is no dedicated special and dedicated heavy, primary A and primary B do less damage than you should do in D1 at the same light and base cooldowns are increased fucking 200%
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>>183769378
I still don't get this whole ttk thing taking forever during the strike, everything dies pretty quickly. The strike feels pretty fluid, so I was happy with it.

Oh and to that guy who posted his list of greviances, I like most of the changes if you think nobody likes the changes you're probably wrong.

>destiny 2 doesn't change at all, it's just destiny 1 again!
>destiny 2 changes too much, i don't like it

????????????????????????
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Post your D1 Guardian(s) /dg/.
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>>183773551
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>>183773551
I like it.
If any specific gear return from the first game I really hope the Ruin Wings do. That or Saint-14's Helm.
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Have they fixed the infinite supers? I can't seem to get arcblade to work.
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>>183773551
>>183773980
>No glowy shit or neon colors
I knew some of you had taste.
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>>183771182
It's because what it needed to change it didn't, and what it did change fucked up the game

I don't think that is hard to understand. If I said, hey, my dinner is kind of bland maybe it could use a little salt or some spices, and then you bend over my plate and shit all over it with liquid feces - you aren't going to tell me that you changed up my dinner and I should be happy about it or whatever
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>>183774207
analogies are about the shittiest form of critique or feedback imaginable
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Sentinal or Gunslinger for my PvE main on release??

I like the reload buff for Gunslinger and the Throwing knife.. but Sentinal has Ward of Dawn and I like its abilities better Force barrier is the shit. Im thinking If this game is super heavy on gunplay Im actually leaning towards Gun for PvE.
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>>183773551
The crucible Titan armor in D2 is basically a better version of what I already rock, so I'm pretty fucking excited.
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>Only Guardians posted are Titans
I fucking knew you faggots were Titan players.
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>>183776713
TITANS
LEAD
THE
WAY
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>Destiny Beta Update 1.04

This ends today, no?
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>>183777724
As long as there isn't another surprise, yes.
6 p.m. bungie time iirc.
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>>183759473
Wrong.

The titan is glowing under his armor. Sunshine is topical effects.
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>>183778271
Sunshot*

I will also add that calling this a sunshot effect just shows how uninformed and ignorant you are, because not only is the effect under the armor, he is glowing in super.
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>>183778508
I agree with the other anon, that totally isn't a solar supering Titan.
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>>183774824
Hunters seem to be shafted when it comes to PvE so far; only hope is subclass#3, so if we're only getting #1 and #2 at launch, then go Titan.
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>>183778686
Sarcasm?
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>>183778840
It's the rasclart sunshot burning effect!
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>>183778760
Subclass 3 for hunter is also all but confirmed.
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>>183778873
>rasclart

Wut
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>>183779093
all three classes cycle through all three "elements" in that same manner, not just Hunter
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>>183779180
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74HAN71uupY
>Covered in red
>Like what?
>Like a rasclart Ferrari engine.
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>>183748680
>>Mods that can be put on weapons do up 10+ in a given stats, barely doing anything
Unknown. Logically inaccurate, in the beta they had lower tier perks (like lightweight)

>>Mobility LITERALLY does almost nothing
Low level gear gives little stats. Based on rare blue drops it puts our LL at early mid-midgame.

>>NO FUCKING SUNBREAKERS OR NIGHTSTALKERS ON LAUNCH
Tons of evidence suggests otherwise. Technically not confirmed so this statement is false.

>>Shoulder charge is RIP
Good in pve with mobs.

>>No machine guns means no thunderlord or its brethren
None shown yet.

Consider yourself corrected.
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>>183779389
That they do.

Same with the 3rd subclass menu icon being invisible, but still in the beta.
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guys im lost
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>>183779562
/o/ meme?

Regardless, the sunshot is a topical effect. It does not go under the armor until you die.
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>>183779849
No. I gave you an example. In this case it's just used as emphasis.
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>>183779093
>2017+.5
>PShitter still can't into screenshots
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>>183780045
You gave me some esoteric term completely unrelated to the subject at hand.

Sunshot does not go under the armor until you die.
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>>183780181
>shoulder charge is bad
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>>183780181
>Once every 10 minutes
Yay
>>183780184
link the video bruh
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>>183780404
ok
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>>183773551
The armada set is godly. Hopefully they give us something like it in D2
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>>183780404
Here is a screenshot of the sunshot effects.

>NO GLOW
>not under the armor
>smaller flames
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>>183780404
Watch any gameplay footage
https://youtu.be/wsCI1to0Cqs
2:25 on this video for a good look at a Titan being shot.
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>plays the beta with limited gear
>everyone suddenly knows exactly what the game will be like

you guys are either mentally retarded or 14 year olds from YouTube, take your pick
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>>183780753
>ms5000cunts
Beta orbiter detected.
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>>183781307
KEEP US POSTED
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A shame all the work people put into their Grimoire Score will be erased when this comes out. I gave up when I found out. I was so close too.
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>>183781442
doubles is ez tho
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>>183780490
???
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>>183781595
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>>183781552
>>183781442
>315 kills
>347 deaths
not for him it's not :^)
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>>183781552

I'm pretty shitty, it took me over 800 rumble matches to finally finish that Grimoire, especially seeing as I'm forced to play with randoms for doubles, but I haven't played in months after finding out that GS is getting erased. It was the last thing to do in the game for me.
>>183781681
I'm definitely not the best. That's for sure.
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https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/229386604?sort=0&page=0

Why does everyone hate Destiny 2 it isn't even out yet
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>>183781349
keep ME posted you retarded shit, email me you fuck
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>>183782748
I'm in love with it, though

Oct 24th can't come soon enough
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>>183782748
Because it's change and change is bad.

>95% of those faggots are there for launch. If the D2 special editions are anything to go by, the game has already sold millions.
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>>183782748
im like, unironically hyped

>>183782804
she was naked the whole time
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>>183773551
>too lazy to grind for matching armour
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>>183782847
>>183782863
>>183782876
I actually think most of the changes are good and I unironically like the new weapon system. Also AoE shoulder charge makes me diamonds.
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>>183783225
Shoulder charge makes me want to put melee cooldown mods in all armor pieces just so I can AoE slam enemies left and right.

The shoulder charge difference in PvE and PvP is glaring, amazingly so.
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>>183782748
>BUT, it does AoE damage now, so you could potentially kill an entire team if they're low on health and bunched up with one attack.
:/
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>>183781294
>guys guys wait
>there might be a DIFFERENT primary to DPS with
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>>183783896
Unlikely, but true.
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Why does a team that doesn't have any bases in Control still gain points? This makes it much harder to make a comeback
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>>183782748
i am excite. the changes in pve are all meant to steer the gameplay away from "space genocider" to "immortality only means something if you can stand up" which is up my alley. pvp does feel a lot more "fair" now that i'm back into D1 seeing teams of 3 camping control points while my team tries and fails over and over to solo them.

"death" just seems to carry more weight in D2. it's meant to be prevented rather than outrun.
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>>183784119
Too bad the crybabies on the forums can't see that. Gaul put it best. "You've merely forgotten the fear of death".
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People have just been playing endgame Destiny with high tier gear for too long and completely forgot what it's like to play a guardian with little to no improved charge rates.
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>>183784479
I've been trying to explain that to bnet forum retards, but they'd rather bitch about it than listen to reason.
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>there are people
>in this thread
>right now
>who think the changes in D2 sacrifice PvE for PvP, and blame PvPfags for it
This meme needs to die.

Snipers were made into heavy weapons specifically because people almost always used snipers in their secondary slot in PvE. The best exception you could possibly come up with is shotguns for PoE, which also got made into heavy weapons. Do you see any heavy sidearms? No. Secondaries which were only popular in PvP stayed secondaries, the ones which got moved were moved due to their PvE popularity for the sake of balancing PvE.

And look at how the abilities got changed. Do you think invisibility got removed because it was OP in PvP? Fuck no, noone used vanish in smoke. Invisibility got removed because you could cheese the shit out of PvE with it. These are PvE balance changes.
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>>183782748
>all that shit
>'bungie is obviously catering to the filthy casual pve players!'
bruh the pve players aren't happy with anything you listed there either
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>>183784479
make a new character and fight that fallen boss in the second story mission
shits hard, man
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>>183784620
Ok.
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>>183784686
My point exactly. Also for anyone saying the enemies are on the same level as you: when you die in the beta, is clearly says "recommended light 210"
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>>183784776
Guess what nigga we are 200 light shit shouldn't be hard
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I wish Ghost was voiced by Jen Taylor
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>be striker titan post d2 release
>have melee recharge rate increase mods in all my armor pieces
>shoulder charge regens super fast
>throw 2 pulse nades
>shoulder charge into group of ads
>both grenades back
>melee recharges fast due to mods
>rinse and repeat

This said, if mods hardly do anything to recharge rates I'll wipe the egg off my face and admit I was wrong.
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>>183784864
Uhhh, yes it is when you are fighting LL 210 you absolute brainlet.
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>>183784864
It's not hard if you don't suck at the game. I always hear about how easy PvE is and now that it can be slightly difficult it's nonfuckingstop whining.
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>>183784620
That actually would make it worse

Bungo has literally shat on people playing pve the way they want since the loot cave and nudging atheon off the ledge

A far more likely scenario is that they proved throughout the entirety of destiny 1 that they were incapable of balancing PvE and PvP separately. Didn't ever do it. this was the easier solution, less variety. So what we get is a chopped up abortion across the board that's much easier for them to regulate down the line whenever those dastardly entitled players find out that they never playtested their own shit and proceed to break their game.
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>>183785015
>>183785035
It's literally harder than the time I did 335 KF on bladedancer at 287 light go suck a rusty nail.
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>>183784904
I swear I can hear bits of her in Failsafe
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>>183785087
>they were incapable of balancing PvE and PvP separately.

Yeah but if Shoulder Charge is anything to go by they decided to ditch that in D2.

Cause SC in PvP is underwhelming but in PvE it's seriously good.
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>>183785245
we can only hope~
>>
I'm actually beginning to think that Bungie fans, at large, are not the smartest of people.

I bet if internet and social media had been as big back then as they are today Halo 1-3 would have caught a lot of shit as well.
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>>183785491
Halo 2 caught an insane amount of shit, anon
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>>183768097
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>>183785087
>Bungo has literally shat on people playing pve the way they want since the loot cave and nudging atheon off the ledge
That's not shitting on PvEers, that's just PvEers being retarded. Just a thread or two ago PvE people were complaining that the lack of perk randomness meant less time grinding, which meant less time playing the game. Now from you I'm hearing that you want to be able to grind out PvE as fast as possible via any cheese strat available.
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>>183785169
>a strike is harder than a 6-man raid where I was carried
Really activates my almonds
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Final Iron Banner will be next week, right?
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>>183785491
>I bet if internet and social media had been as big back then as they are today Halo 1-3 would have caught a lot of shit as well.
The Internet and social media were still back then and Halo has always gotten shit for being babby's first FPS. You're probably too young or didn't spend enough time on the Internet.
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>people calling the strike hard
I mean I understand that the cooldowns blow but I solo'd it in 30 minutes with one death as a hunter of all things. And I'm saying this as someone who only played the first game on his roomate's console, I don't even have a lot of experience and I find it easy.
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>>183785714
>nah we didn't balance our bullet sponge game and there were glitches but that's just like, the player's fault man
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>>183784207
everyone knows D1 will be practically abandoned when D2 comes out so if they prefer the old power fantasy they know it's all over once the sequel launches, up-or-out style, and that's kind of a bummer.

D2 wants you to feel good earning everything while D1 struggled to keep stuff from you.
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>>183786061
It is easy. You just underestimate how bad people Desticles are at the game
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>>183786074
What are you talking about? The post I'd quoted was COMPLAINING about the loot cave and Atheon glitch being fixed.
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>>183786061
The Destiny player base is mostly skill-free, it's not news but people like to forget that.
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>>183786249
it's tru. i'm fucking awful at life and according to tracker i'm in the top .5% of clash ELO
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10+ public events plus fully voiced story's plus fully voiced adventures plus hidden zones.

Watch, you worthless fucks, when the game launches people will start bitching that there is too much to do on patrols.
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>>183786074
>bungie gives everyone loads of loot for shooting into a cave
>"WOW THERE'S NO INCENTIVE TO PLAY AT ALL, I GET LOOT WAY TO EASILY"
>bungie fixes this and forces you to complete challenges to obtain loot
>"WOW BUNGIE IS MAKING ME DO CHORES TO GET LOOT, FUCK GRINDING"
pvebabs
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>>183785925
I remember going to buy Halo from a game store (I had played it a friend's house) and talking with a guy there about which was better Halo or Tribes. There were a lot more face to face discussions going on besides IRC and dev forums. B1stFPS is a /v/ meme, everyone I knew from childhood's first FPS was Quake or Doom or Goldeneye or other shit like Dark Forces/Doom clones.
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>>183785837
It is your shield goes down too easily. Not enough regen. You have to choose between killing enemies in a timely manner and sometimes getting over whelmed or taking a couple shots then hiding on repeat. At 287 my shields still went down easily but the regen was still quick enough to contribute without dying.
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>>183786553
Git gud.

The strike is not hard at all.

Fun, but not difficult.

Now, when that fucker goes nightfall, THEN I can see it being hard. (arc burn might make it damn near impossible)

Heroic will be a nice mix between hard and fun.
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>>183786453
Plenty of normal gaming forums and BBSs were around in the early 00s. In fact, it was probably the peak for forums. Not just dev forums, fansites and such. I remember a lot of the competitive circuit on CAL and CPL rinsing Halo and the birth of MLG, saying it'd never become a thing too.
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>>183786435
The launch grind was crazy though, the cave helped put Destiny on the map rather than hinder it.
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>>183786553
>regen only takes a second longer
>"HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO SURVIVE"

the ride never ends
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>>183786717
>Arc burn Protheon's final phase

Christ his machine gun is already good at shredding but a burn modifier would make this thing downright unfair.
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>>183786758
Fake and gay.

The problem with early Y1 destiny was lack of exotics.

This should not be a problem this time around. They have plenty of exotics they could bring back, and plenty of exotic archetypes they can recreate.
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>>183786839
Final phase horde will be dumb too.

>oh, here is 3000 fanatics have fun.
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>>183786873
>didn't play at launch
Show me your prima laurea
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>>183786758
launch grind was hardcore but you bitches demanded it be nerfed because your poor feefees couldn't handle not being constantly golden showered in rewards. reaching max ll was supposed to be an achievement, not a guarantee, but all you autistic shitwads wouldn't even consider a stranger without max ll for activities (worst on LFG) so they had to shovel out top tier gear so normies could pass arbitrary muster and even see stuff like raids.
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>>183787220
Cryptarch down-decrypting engrams was legit idiotic though.
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>>183787097
In a D2 strike atm, I'll load up my AoT book after and take a pic
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>>183779612
None shown yet on machine guns? They're straight up not in the game. Machine guns are rip
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>>183787087
but they drop an aoe that shreds others, so kiting them into a clump and killing one would kill them all in one big pool you could lure protheon into. gg.

>>183787292
i never gave a shit about that (i thought it was funny like smash bros slipping) but i don't cry to youtube every time i'm disappointed that my video game dreams don't come true.
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>>183787307
Machineguns can just be auto rifle variants with a different stat spread (and obviously lacking the power weapon strength). They're willing to do the Sweet Business so I'm willing to trust that eventually belt-fed MGs will make a return in one form or another.
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>>183787220
There was a lot of bullshit in that "hardcore" grind. Do you even remember your Raid weapons, exotics, legs? I didn't bitch and moan when they killed the loot cave or nerfd Atheons suicidal move pattern, I grinded just like everyone else. >you autistic shitwads wouldn't even consider a stranger without max LL
I hope you're talking about /dg/ and not me specifically because, yeah, /dg/ is elitist as fuck. And why not? Put the time in and you don't have to spend 3 hours in VoG.
>>183787305
Take your time bud
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>>183786758
>>183786873
>>183787573
>grind to soft cap of 26 in the first week
>unlock raid gear
>dont get higher light stats out of it until you dump hours of patrol missions into it and then upgrade it with mats you dont have
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>Exotics are no longer that exotic

Not sure how to feel about this. I mean I'm happy that there will be more diversity in what people use, but I liked how different certain exotics felt. Like Chaperone, Dregs Promise or Sleeper Simulant.

If anything things like riskrunner and sunshot feel like a step in the wrong direction. Sweet Business is alright if underwhelming.

I'm also finding myself missing Astrocyte Verse of all things now that warlocks lack max regen and blinking out of one engagement into another is so common
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>>183787573
*upgrading your Raid gear, exotics, legs
Look there's nothing wrong with a tough grind, but it needed refining.
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>>183787704

This has always been the problem though.

>Raid comes out
>Everyone with a group set up runs it at minimum light
>All the LFGs then insist you have to have a certain light level before attempting
>Only way to get to that light level is to get raid gear
>>
Who's the meanest player on this general?
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>>183787872
anon :(
he doesnt like it when i put a trip on
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>>183787868
Yeah. I wish more raids offered side-grades rather than upgrades. You don't need to get an upgrade on the last* level, it isn't as though anything comes afterwards. You should be getting unique tools that give you replay value, not additional raw power.

*as in last "for the time being"
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>>183788150
Are you saying you'd rather want Raid gear that affects general gameplay over specializing in the Raid? Like a gun passing through Knight shield walls instead of guns that do more damage to Oracles, a strictly Raid enemy?
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>>183787573
There you go
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>>183788769
I guess that would be a good idea, though I think both of those examples are overly direct. Generally speaking though, you should get (or at least be able to get) tools that help you complete a task before completing that task rather than after. Unlocking a subclass to level up after completing a raid would make a lot of sense to me. Instead of saying "hey, you've beaten the hardest level; here's a higher light tool that can be used to beat higher levels (which don't exist)" you're saying "hey, you've beat the hardest level; here's some incentive to go and play through the game from the ground up again".
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>>183787754

>Exotics are no longer exotic

Really man? You're going to base this on the 3 we've been playing with? What was so exotic about MIDA? Or the Suros Regime? Aside from having a gimmick assosiated with them, they were completely normal, albeit widely used guns.
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>>183789803

The three shown, Borealis, the "gjallerhorn of grenade launchers" teased and the other things discussed in streams.
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>>183785247

I'm OK with it. Shouldercharge was the equivalent of a power weapon. Look at any Strikers kill history and you'll see melee kills as their top or second contributing factor.

Titan mains are complaining now, but they've reigned in the crucible because of the charge, the incredibly broken and now fixed skating, and their sill good super for shutdowns.
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>>183784479

People have been playing a 3 year old game with 4 expansions under it and are saying destiny 2 won't have that same amount of equipment at launch.

Makes me think the community is honest to god retarded.
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>>183790212
Not Destiny related. What's your favorite weapon from the D2 beta?
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>>183790073

And what's wrong with them? What does something need to be to feel "Exotic" to you?

Fourth Horseman? Last Word? No Land Beyond?

Do they need to play differently from their usual associated type or can they be, as previously mentioned, completely normal guns with a small gimmick? Borealis can change element, which was one of the reasons I thought the Murmur was so fucking good. I haven't heard about that GL, so I'm not going to comment.

But tell me, what do you want, what do you feel an exotic needs to be to be good enough for you?
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>>183744091
BECAUSE MINIGAMES DURING LOADING SCREENS ARE PATTENTED BY BANDAI NAMCO YOU MORONIC FUCK.
>>
>>183791235
I thought that expired. Or was that coming up.
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>>183791235
but we allready have a fun minigame where you try to go change your equipment but the game keeps FUCKING PULLING ME OUT OF MY MENU
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>>183791339
They renenwed it? Patents only expire if you don't renew them dude, what the hell, how can you not know this?
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>>183790729

Basically, yeah. My favourite exotics were truly unique guns, like chaperone, no land beyond, queenbreaker now and to a certain extent last word (although the fact that could still ADS meant it felt a bit gimmicky).

More unique effects like the sticky fusion rifle and blinding sniper rifle were also good.

Meanwhile things like mida, bad juju, suros and these 3 new ones just seem mediocre. They don't live up to the title "exotic," more just a slight upgrade on a legendary.

I get the reason why exotics need toning down, but I still think they should be a little more out-of-the-box than "free ammo on hit" or "killing enemies makes them explode"
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>>183792129
There's a fine line for exotics being overpowered or unique. Some fit perfectly, others swing to either side.
>>
>>183792260

I don't disagree. Not to mention they're so sensitive to weapon class changes (see: chaperone). I just hope Bungie put more effort into these things this time round
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>>183791235
Fucking japs
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>>183788903
>discount MoT emblems
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>>183792129
>"killing enemies makes them explode"
I honestly think "on-kill" perks in general are bad and hard to balance. Against high TTK enemies they feel pointless, against mobs they feel amazing. Perks should help you get the kill instead of giving you reward afterwards. I guess explosions on-kill sorta help you get the NEXT kill, but it' still a pointless perk when you're shooting a boss, and only an okay perk in PvP.
>>
So on the 28th, ign will send bungie a list of questions given to them by the community. Other than the usual >will thorn/ ghorn be coming back what questions would you like to have bungie answer?
Totally not a shill, btw
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>>183793631
I don't really want to ask any questions, I just kinda want to tell them to do things.
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>>183778508
If you look close that titan left a solar footprint, and all roaming supers leave footprints of the super's energy type now.
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>>183793754
Special snowflake spotted
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>>183793843
what did he mean by this?
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>>183793289
Exotics were a crapshoot year one
You had very few chances at getting one (Atheon drop or Gorgon chest), and strange coins pretty much had a soft cap of 27 a week, if you had three characters that is. Even then, Xûr sucked at bringing in weapons or armor that people wanted. I remember seeing Sunbreakers several times in a row. I was only able to reach level 30 because Xûr sold Voidfang Vestments, which sucked because its stats were locked to STR only at the time
Don't try to claim that the end-game gear economy wasn't total garbage before House of Wolves
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>>183784864
>200 light vs 400 light
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>>183793939
>You had very few chances at getting one (Atheon drop or Gorgon chest),

And Nightfall, and exotic bounties.
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>>183793631
To what degree can mods alter charge rates?
Or your guardian in general?
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>>183784864
>Guess what nigga we are 200 light shit shouldn't be hard

Y3 babbi detected.
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>>183793631
Is there a way to manually lower your weapon?
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>>183794107
>200 vs 200-210 light enemies
really milks the almonds
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>>183794458
I can't wait for the game to actually launch to watch all you retarded faggots cry how you can't solo nightfalls with your level 1 characters.
>>
GUNS:
GOD TIER:
Nightshade, followed by Nergal
GOOD TIER:
Any exotic, any SMG, the Scathelocke, the Minuet, the Secret Ingredient, and the shotgun and sniper.
BAD TIER:
Any unlisted kinetic or energy weapon
GARBAGE TIER:
Any other power weapon
Though bear in mind the titan exotic keeps you from using Nightshade and doesn't pair incredibly well with Nergal. Heavy weapons are also just not as important as primaries, hence why they aren't in god tier.

CLASS ABILITIES:
GOOD TIER:
Healing aura or either barrier
OKAY TIER:
Damage aura or reload dodge
GARBAGE TIER:
Melee dodge
Hunters probably should have gotten brief three-second invisibility or antiheal smokebombs across the board to let them contribute to the team instead of getting shadestep, if not in addition to a ground based dodge perk. The melee dodge may become less bad if super cooldown becomes smaller post-release.

MOBILITY:
GOD TIER:
WARLOCK UPRISING
A HOLLOW SHELL OF WHAT IT ONCE WAS TIER:
Titans
SOMEHOW WORSE:
Hunters
But bear in mind that if you aren't using dawnblade's perks you need to be using blink; standalone warlock jetpack is still mediocre, if not worse than the titan jump.

ANYTHING ELSE:
Borderline meaningless because of massive cooldown; your power weapon is more meaningful than your super. This may be due to beta characters being low level; a few players have had blue-rare gear drop from the boss at a higher light level than their own.
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>>183794217
And pvp drops. Friend got a last word the first week of release when we decided to play pvp.
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>>183793939
shitter excuses
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>>183794217
>Nightfall
Fuckin please. All anyone got 9/10 times was a shit roll weapon
>exotic bounties
At a pretty rare chance, for five weapons total (Pocket Infinity, Bad Juju, Thorn, SGA, Invective)
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>>183795087

Objectively correct.

On a side note, how do we fix warlocks supers? 50% charge speed reduction on nova bomb? Give dawnblade a melee option?
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>>183795504
>exotic bounties
>pretty rare chance
As a shitter who's only checking in because of the beta, this is some bullshit. I had all the bounties in y1, and I did not play very consistently, especially by /vg/ standards.
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Remember to log in and play the D2 beta today to help with heavy stress testing.
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>>183796229
Is it still running? I thought it was done by now.
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>>183795849

>On a side note how do we cripple Warlocks?

Yeah, you know? I see a Warlock running at me full speed, and I know he has a super due to the handy dandy indicators, and, instead of running, since I know he'll probably have the slo nova bomb, I'm gonna stay put, shoot and hope for the best.

You're a fucking retard.
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>>183794691
it's a 210 light strike and you are 200 light what is so hard to understand here?
>>183795087
>not mentioning the goat auto raifu
kys
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>>183796229
Thanks dmg
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>>183795504
>Fuckin please.

Oh that's right, we're gonna ignore it was a source of exotics so you can keep your imaginary claim that they only came from one place.

How about you fuck off back to warframe you Y3 shitter?

>>183797107
>it's a 210 light strike and you are 200 light what is so hard to understand here?
You do 7% less damage and you receive 7% more damage. What is so hard to understand here?
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>>183797232
>7%
wow loads
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>>183797232
>7%

LELEL
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>>183762028
it did get good
House of Wolves and Taken King were good
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Every day the retarded making asinine claims get more and more BTFO.

Rocket launchers confirmed.

Podcast confirmed PVE changes/gameplay changes
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>>183779737
no it's not
the subclass list stays open because you're hovering on the edge of the main icon, as soon as you leave it it closes
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>>183799958
>Rocket launchers confirmed
Were people saying otherwise? I had one drop in a crucru match.
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>>183799958
rocket launchers are in the beta stupid, you mean machine guns
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>>183799958
Were people saying rocket launchers were out? I could have sworn that I saw one in one of the trailers
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>>183796594

>Suggest warlocks get 2 novas per match
>NAH M8 THAT'S USELESS DUMMY

Well we need SOMETHING to make up for the fact that FoH has multiple uses while SloNo has 1 slow-ass use. Which you probably won't even get if you've been using charged grenades.
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>>183799958
>This blue rocket launcher has much better stats than the legendary Häkke launcher we got in the beta

Must have been a Smolder-like rocket launcher.
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>>183789570
A big problem was that the first part of the raid should've given out a primary for the raid, no matter what. And had oracle killer intrinsic to the gun and the first part, that defense should be raid leveled but just a defense. That way you introduce people to the difficulty, the idea of coordinating six people, and give out a gun that's useful for the rest of the raid. That's the kind of interactivity and forethought we need
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>>183743321
What is platinum mad? it only has 11 people, wasn't there one with like 100 people or so awhile ago?
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>only symbol I'm gonna be missing is the completed book one

I couldn't do it bros, too much crap, not enough psn. At least the year 1 vanilla icons look good
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>""""new"""" gamemode is just limited pool lives elimination
bungie you fucking triple kike double niggers
how fucking low effort can you fucking get
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>>183785087
>they were incapable of balancing PvE and PvP separately. Didn't ever do it.
bullshit, during the later part of year 1 they doubled the damage of shotguns in PvE but not PvP
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>>183801861
platinum mad is an old meme clan
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>>183782748
>They want the pve players.
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>>183786758
it did in a negative way, that's why they changed it
the thing that made people pay attention was the soundbite that "Destiny players shoot into a cave at canon fodder enemies for hours on end rather than play the actual activities"
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>Got every weapon in this beta twice and multiple sets of armour
>Still no solar handcannon that comes default on titan

REEEEEEEEEEE
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>>183787292
it said it right in the description, and it only happened rarely
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>>183801903
http://youtu.be/zRNyOfd_0xU
http://youtu.be/yJ94CXhY5so

high impact PRs are nerfed 32.4% body and 38.5% head in PvP
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for the anon asking asking for the PC clan (group) link a thread or two ago

https://www.bungie.net/en/Clan/Detail/1988236

it's still utterly ded, but we'll see if things pick up closer to beta
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>>183791490
is that how it is in Japan?
that's not how it works in the US
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>>183803239
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Term_of_patent_in_the_United_States
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>>183800215
Wrong.

Go to the bottom left of the main icon.

Don't make me go and get a screen.
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>5 crucible modes

-Control
-Countdown
-Survival

The three we know. Clash is a pretty safe bet for one other mode... what do you guys think the last will be? Rift? something new?

RIP rumble
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>>183804363
Rift
fucking shit modes
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4v4 was a mistake
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Hakke pulses no longer shoot is 4 bullet bursts
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>>183804308
I did, the list closes
I'll wait on that screenshot
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>>183804363
>survival
what?
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>>183802996
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>>183804854
found it, it's interesting
can't wait to use up 6 of my team's 8 lives and get blacklisted!
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>>183804662
goddamn shame
I wanted a lower impact
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>>183804765
You did not even try.

>Inb4 b....but that does not matter!
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>>183802996
>It's going to be somewhat necessary as to use the clan list as a second friends list, seeing as though Blizzard's online service is super dated when it comes to adding cross-region players as friends

I never even thought about this. Blizzard need to wake the fuck up in the current year.
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>>183806238
Annnd based on reveal trailer we know where the 3rd subclass icon is located.
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>>183806484
>The revolver

Is that a placeholder?
I kind of want a colt like that in the game.
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>>183806484
>All those weapons that look generic but are legendary

They're not Vanguard weapons, not crucible weapons, not Häkke, not Omolon, not Suros, not Veist.

Are the generic military looking guns from the gunsmith?
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>>183806373
it only dawned on me the other day after faffing around trying to add someone from across the pond to my Blizzard friends list
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>>183806761
probably "homemade" from City survivors

surely the foundries have been fucked by Cabal?
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>>183806761
Well Scathelock was said to be made for survivors of the City, so they must be military weapons from golden age, restored
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Haven't played in a few days. Did anyone ever figure out what they patched? Hit registration feels A LOT better on my Hand Cannon now for some reason, can't tell if it's placebo or not.
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>>183806373
>>183806778
Oh yeah. That shit is going to be a nightmare.

>meet cool dudes in a strike
>send them friend requests
>they're received on the wrong region
>never get added

That is going to suck.
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>>183806238
bullshit
I did this and this did not happen
you photoshopped this
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>>183809448
Did I shoop the YouTube video I got it from, you failure?

https://youtu.be/TPukMoBFyO4
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>>183809448
what the fuck, it is doing it now
maybe I was too focused on the outlines? if you're not touching either diamond the secondary outlines disappear
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>>183804854
it's in the new ign vid. both teams have a set number of lives at the beginning of the match, first team to deplete the other team's lives wins.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJ94CXhY5so
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>>183810712
I dig this more than the trials elimination.
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>>183780278
>Explosive barrels mean shoulder charge is good.
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>>183797232
Nightfalls didn't guarantee exotics though. It was a pretty rare thing at the start of Y1, at least it was for me. Not the same person.
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>>183811530
>Nightfalls didn't guarantee exotics though.
Neither did raids. They had a higher chance but it wasn't a guarantee. There was no such thing as a guaranteed exotics as D1.

>>183798503
>>183797882
Enough to make you bitches panic like you just got your first period.
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>>183787704
>>183787868
Soft cap was 28, two pieces of fully upgraded raid gear (or one and an exotic) would take you to 29. People only got to 26 in the first week because the vanguard mark cap meant you could only buy one piece of legendary armor in the first week, so people were mostly in blues (which capped at 26).

But yes, the grind was ridiculous.
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Why are the bungie forums so God damn cancerous?
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>>183812971
there's a reason people used to call it /b/ungie.net
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>>183813276
Literally nobody called it that.
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>>183809772
timestamp is 5:27 for those curious and/or impatient
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>>183813371
>t. never was about for Halo 3
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>>183813458
Who are you quoting, what are you saying, and where do you think you are?
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>>183813458
>using 4chan for 10+ years
What went wrong in your life.
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>>183812971
>why are official forums so bad
Every game for the last two decades
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>>183813608
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>>183813608
>She hasn't been on 4chan since 2007
lol?
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So does anyone know what this is? It dropped for me after a strike but there was nothing in the actual inventory.
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>>183813276
more like "the Flood is /b/" or something to that effect
fun fact, I know a guy that got banned and vanned for posting CP in the Flood to prove how hardcore he was
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>>183813608
>tfw 4chinz is the best site for being able to post without getting censored by people that find increasingly more and more things to be "hate speech" and offensive
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>>183814285
presumably it's going to be part of the system for joining a guided game
I'm guessing they're automatically allocated in the final game and replenished on a schedule
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>>183813458
To be fair, outside of occasonal screenshot threads during the beta, advertising campaign threads making light of being unable to "finish the fries" and appreciation for the Believe campaign when it launched or the PC CE threads, it's not like Halo threads were really common, nor was the franchise really that popular on /v/ 10 years ago since it was mostly a Nintendo stronghold.

Fan forums like Smashboards had far more notoriety across the board and making fun of tourneyfags like Dylan TNGA, for example. Stuff like that and the rise of the Final Destination meme still resonates now.
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>>183814285
Oh this is good, I can shed some light on this.

Its a trials passage for guided games. You use up when you roll for guided games. If you actually finish the raid you get an extra item and the ticket is used up. If you quit guided games or kick a person that joined your team through them, the item is locked out for an as of yet undecided amount of time, preventing you from using another.
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>>183785169
Found the shitter
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>>183806975
>foundries fucked
>in an age of 3d printing
As long as they have the patterns and enough glimmer, you could set up shop anywhere quickly.
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Titans are old hat. What gear is your Warlock ending Destiny 1 with?
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>>183816668
It fucking kills me that Golden Age tech is basically 3D printing on steroids
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>>183816948
>tfw Guardians probably transmat pucci for themselves.
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In order from top to bottom.
Have at least 1 year one moment of triumph.
Have all year one moments of triumph.
Had Taken King and finished at least 1 year two moment of triumph.
Had Taken King and finished all year two moments of triump.
Had Rise of Iron and Reached level 2 in Age of Triumph record book.
Had Rise of Iron and Reached level 7 in Age of Triumph record book.
Had at least 5,000 grimoire score in Destiny 1.
Participated in Destiny 2 beta.
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>>183817069
>Be Tyra Karn
>Had to leave comfy Iron Keep and the snow puppies
>Now living on a farm, filled with bugs and slav-hicks
>Greasy unsheveled Hunter with shit gear walks up with an legendary engram
>Decrypt a legendary fleshlight
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>>183773980
I don't think they'll bring back saint-14, they'll probably make something else that'll encourage players to use the shield rather than the bubble.
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>>183817519
Hopefully it's because Saint-14's an NPC in the Osiris DLC, or earlier in the story but I wont hope that much
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>>183817394
>tfw decrypyting a used one
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>>183817323
Thanks
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>>183817323
>Will never reach rank 7
>>
>play beta for 5 days
>just now get a fusion rifle
>still not shotgun
I'll try it out though
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>>183818250
Why not? The shirt gets locked out in a couple days but you can still hit rank seven until September. You can get to rank 7 without touching the trials or raid pages.
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>>183818352
Play a Titan
>>183818250
Why? Did you just start?
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>>183817323
>start up D2
>get every one of them
sweet
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>>183795849
>On a side note, how do we fix warlocks supers?
remove the "hey this fag has a super" icon from the top of the screen, make the nova bomb travel a little faster

>>183797107
>not mentioning the goat auto raifu
I mentioned scathelocke, was the secondary one good? Better than an SMG? It was actually one of the few weapons I didn't get.
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what are the chances of frealance having a permanent playlist in d2?
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>>183817323
>there are still people who don't have a 5K grimoire score
Do people even collect dead ghosts? Or even the calcified fragments and siva fragments? Jesus Christ, these are the same people who complain about "muh lack of story", right?
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>>183820692
the solar auto rifle is decent but it doesn't measure up to the Scathelock or several other weapons, IMHO
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>>183820945
>Do people even collect dead ghosts? Or even the calcified fragments and siva fragments?
I don't. Well, I collected Calcified Fragments because I needed them for ToM.
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>tfw I have dreams about Destiny and sometimes even /dg/

I really don't like to admit it but this game has a tighter grasp on my life than it should.
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>>183817323
>emblems only get better over time
>just like the game

ITS LIKE POTTERY
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>>183818970
>>183818954
I cant git gud at PvP. I could try harder, but the second I start to try at PvP it isnt fun anymore.
also the collections
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>>183822298
Damn I wanna bend Amanda over a sparrow and fill her up
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>>183822526
I can see the collections being a pain but if you pay attention to the daily vendor sales, and purchases the upgradeable sparrows you shouldn't be too far off. Wait for Mayhem to get your class abilities and or creation nodes, I hit level 7 with only Clash and Control completed.
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>>183822710
There's always Cortana
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>>183822775
>Don't make me install Gentoo
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>>183821832
You too? It has to be the first person aspect or something, I keep having /dg/ers in my dreams.
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>>183823051
Destiny is my most played game ever at this point. It's ridiculous.

And I willingly subject myself to three more years with Destiny 2.
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Any groups down for Nightfalls or raids? I'm lvl 390 and trying to max my titan before D2 comes out.
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>>183823208
I can help you with a nightfall
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Anyone got pictures of the PS4 exclusive armor sets?
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>tfw she probably died in the first mission
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>>183821642
>tfw just got Touch of Malice two days ago because I refused to look up how to get the rest until there was time pressure
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>>183823442
>until there was time pressure
There's no time pressure though....
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>>183822710
>Alpucci
is that what you call an alpaca's pussy?
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wh- what if they open up a new mission for an hour just before it closes later
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>>183823801
They won't.
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>>183823208
do heroic strikes in the mean time. chests at the end drop up to 400.
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>some people want hunters to have smokebombs instead of the dodge
>other people have nightstalker ptsd and claim they were removed for balance
>game releases
>third hunter subclasses have them, others don't
>everyone ends up pissed off
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>>183823670
I want to get as many milestones in Destiny 1 done as I can before they stop keeping records
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>>183824950
smoke is a melee ability
melee abilities are always different between subclasses, the closest exception is probably Warlock melees that are all shoving your palm at an enemy and having an energy field do something nasty to them
>>
>>183825126
Touch of Malice isn't a milestone.
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>>183823405
Good, destiny has almost no good waifus

Failsafe is batting up to blow them all the fuck out
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>>183825318
>smoke is a melee ability
in 1
people were saying invis smoke should be a replacement for the dodge in 2, since titans and warlocks both have team based abilities (not to mention warlocks have an airborn dodge as a perk)
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>>183826065
Only Dawnblade has the airborne dodge
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>>183825346
It's pretty close
It requires like what, 45/50 fragments?
>>
I kind of like the new Survival PvP mode.
Could see that being the new trials.
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>>183827118
Dunno about it being the new trials, but god damn do I love it. It'll probably be my favorite game mode just looking at it
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Any of these armor sets tickle your fancy?
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>>183828352
Lmao Titan looks like megablocks
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>>183827565
>Survival has only one power ammo spawn in a neutral place
>Bubble Sentinel with walls exists

Gonna be so fun
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>>183828352
those color schemes and layouts are fucking disgusting
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>>183827118
I couldn't. Matchmaking would be a nightmare. One shitter sinks the lives, get out-camped, player leaves, retard still feeding, wind up alone and hunted, gunned down 1v3 as they just rush you through the door revives stacked on them. Maybe they even rush in in a few waves of derisive emoting as you helplessly reload, mowing them down, ready to just OOB to escape but you're trying to be principled
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>>183826889
Yeah, and warlocks have dawnblade, so by extension they have an airborn dodge as a perk option, just like I'd said.
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>>183829085
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>>183828352
Warlocks look like shit in D2 ;_;
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>>183828992
>I couldn't. Matchmaking would be a nightmare. One shitter sinks the lives
It's not going to be as bad as you think. People can feed in points based modes too, it's just the same thing in reverse.
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>>183828992
That's why PvP is going to have casual and competitive playlists. If you don't queue into comp as a 4 man, you've only got yourself to blame.
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>>183781595
Fuck off joff
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>>183829370
same. the helmet looks like one of the VoG helmets.

>>183828352
titan looks fun
>>
>survival is the D2 Trials game type
how would you feel
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGBDed9GkNE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wq1XOgzPGKU
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>>183748680
>>183749378
There's nothing in the beta to suggest that at all.
>>
http://imgur.com/gallery/cJCwP
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>>183816805
Phoneposting from work so you are not left in too much dust.
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>>183800589

There's no problem. Fist of Havoc might get multiple uses, but he's not going to get like, 6 kills with it or anything. He'll get maybe 2, the others run, then it runs out. 4v4 is comfy as fuck.

And my bad, I misread your Nova cooldown, but I think it's fine as is.
>>
>>183830481
>Now, I need my fireteam. I need... Ikora and Cayde

If we see the three teamed up I'd be extremely happy and excited to say the least.
>>
>>183830481
Thanks for the first video, but why the second one? That's old hat
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>>183830481
>We're goin AWL-EEIN on diss...
>actor pauses for a second to recover from accidentally letting his inner black woman out
nice
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>>183830924
>giant colossal planet vacuum cleaner

Damn those Cabal, stealing our light AND from Space Balls
>>
>>183831597
Speaking of women was that Hawthorn speaking also? Not impressed so far, sounded very flat and dull.
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>>183831740
Doubt it. It looked like another guardian.
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>>183791430
I've hated this about destiny since day one. I had hope that they would fix this ridiculous issue but no luck.
>>
>>183832952
I hope the menus load faster. tired of having to wait for the jpg to load just to use my inventory
>>
Is high TTK really that bad? Ive always hated low ttk shit like cod because theres no time to use mobility and gunplay to outclass someone if you get instagibbed the minute they see you
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>>183825346
getting enough calcified fragments for it is
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>>183826065
how would that even work?
I guess I should be asking, how do class abilities or whatever they're called work on other classes?
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>>183833319
If eveyone moves faster then Higher TTK, matched with sufficient ammunition, makes for better 1v1 gunplay but when movement is slower exacerbates team shooting out of the skill bubble.
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>>183833319
It is when there isn't a good way to counter teamshooting other than teamshooting yourself. Grenades need shorter cooldowns.
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>>183834220
Titans get a shield, Warlocks place a circle down to heal/damage boost
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>>183834220
You either hold or double tap B to create a wall or an aoe buff or dodge. All that really makes a class ability a class ability is

A) it has cooldown displayed on one of the main HUD boxes
B) all subclasses in the class have it

For an invis bomb you could just double tap B to start an 3rd person animation where the hunter throws a bomb down if being able to throw it is too much of an advantage.
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>>183833319
Not with slow and clunky movement. At the moment, teamshotting is literally the 100% undefeatable way to win matches. It's impossible to win a match if more than 1 of your team is slacking.

It's going to be a fucking nightmare to play comp after a short while, because every team worth a fuck is going to stick 5 inches from each others arseholes and cover every sightline, converging on any threat instantly

its going to be small crowd of guardians vs small crowd of guardians, the game

because any other play is irrelevant and inferior
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>>183820692
something 4U is decent enough
>>183820945
>collecting ghosts
naw nigga
>>183832952
luke or someone similar tweeted that they fixed that.
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>>183835004
Maybe that's exactly what they want? Encourage coordination over just fucking around whatever?
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>>183835004
Teamshoot city isn't because of the TTK, its just because of shit grenade cooldown. I've played games with higher TTK, it doesn't inherently force you to huddle up.
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>>183791430
Tested exactly that in the beta. One you launch, you aren't interrupted until the activity actually starts.
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>>183834936
>can't teabag without wasting abilities
Truly the second worst part of the beta.
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>>183835263
There is a difference between coordination and huddling. As it stands, one guardian with quad health and damage would be about as strong as four guardians who can divide their assets up. Ideally that shouldn't be the case: the team of four should be able to exert a tactical advantage of some sort over the quad guardian, but it really seemed like quad was the way to go almost 100% of the time in the beta unless you were trying to spread out and grab heavy.
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>>183835283
It's because of irrelevant abilities, and mobility. With limited mobility, the punisher is the one who doesn't move but waits. The one who gets punished is the one who actually moves.

It encourages passive and team defensive play. Bad decision from Bunghole
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>>183835941
I had a fine time moving first in peakaboo shootouts. If you know where they're huddled, you get the first strike. If they're playing itbsafe then the worst case scenario they have one guy looking down your lane, but if you have two guys peeking then you'll outdps him until his buddies turn in response to your peakaboo. Its teamshooty but it didn't strike me as campy.
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>2.5 hours left
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>>183836461
>most likely no secret during last hour
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>>183836456
>If they're playing itbsafe then the worst case scenario they have one guy looking down your lane, but
If they're playing it safe then the worst case scenario you have is one guy looking down your lane, but
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>>183835004
>It's impossible to win a match if more than 1 of your team is slacking.

As it should be. If the average skill of your team is lower than the other, you should lose.
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>>183831602
more like stealing from Star Trek
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>>183834506
I meant control-wise
>>183834936
oh OK
I would hope they would map smoke bomb to holding B instead of double-tapping it, I've gotten the hang of using it to dodge, but I almost always plan when I'm going to dodge, smoke bomb is supposed to (in large part) be for when shit goes south
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>>183831602
What if it's not sucking it up, but spitting it out?
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>>183837069

Amount of mega maids in Star Trek: 0
Amount of mega maids in Space Balls: 1
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>>183837510
You mean it's gone from suck... to blow?
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>>183837407
on PS4 you hold the circle or double-tap it.
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>>183831602
Pretty sure that's THE cabal empire.
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>one hour
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>>183838765
what are you even doing in the beta at this point?
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>>183831602
>puttng your balls in planet eating pucci
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>>183838892
>She hasn't done the strike over 30 times
(ok) (cwl)
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>>183833319
Low ttk objectively takes more skill because it requires pretty much everything low ttk requires to be good and then some. Even games with higher ttk usually have things that if used properly will cut the kill times down, and what seperates the lower skilled players from the higher skilled is how effectively they can use said things.

Theres a reason you never hear about lowering the ttk to nerf shit.
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>>183839367
pretty much everything high ttk*
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>>183837620
actually I meant this
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>>183838765
1h37 minutes you mean
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>>183833319
fags can't just charge in with their dicks out so they're all crying about it
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>>183839367
Also, higher TTKs makes for faster gameplay and puts more focus on things like movement as well. That's why "hardcore" modes tend to be campfests.

>>183839502
Which side would Spock eat it from?
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>>183840716
his post was 30 minutes ago. The beta ends in 30 minutes.

No, he's right. The beta ends 6PM Pacific, 9PM Eastern.
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>Have to get Flawless raider all over again
Here's hoping no raid in Destiny 2 is Crota tier easy so getting it again should be fun
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i just my hunger warlock already so i can just sit in a corner eating grenades in pvp like the fatass i am
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>maint
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>>183830481
>If we wait, we die.
Zvala confirmed for making up with Shaxx.
>>
Who else /booted/?
>>
https://youtu.be/jG5XL1Dsm_M

This crazy fucker did the god tier sounds of D2
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>>183793631
I wanna know if Dead Ghosts or a collectible like them will be in the gane.
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>>183842890
God this is so fucking cringey. Everything the subreddit memes is fucking cringey.
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>>183842890
Please stop shilling your channel, Byf.
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>>183841498
Bet you $10 psn you're wrong
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what are the chances they open the raid up in the last minute?
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>>183843298
Have you seen his Twitch channel description? That fragile chubby fuck would cry opening up /dg/
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>>183843475
Zero, the only last minute thing I could see them add is a cutscene that fallows right after the end of the story mission.
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>>183843146
The guy is fucking nutty, but God damn he did a great job with the sounds.
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That's it.
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>>183843989
"Non"
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>>183843989
Almost
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There it is
Fin
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>weasel
rip the beta
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>>183844249
Nooooo
>>
>>
Now only a """month""" until the pc beta
>>
~Fin~
>>
VoG??
>>
WTF I WAS STILL IN THE FARM AND I JUST GOT THE WEASEL ERROR FUCK YOU BUNGIE
>>
Life is suffering.

Put me in a coma for a month doc.
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Who /VoGforoldtimessake/ here
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bye bye beta~
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>>183844286
>>183844295
>>183844436
Got kicked. Knew if I came here I'd get an answer faster then the official sources. Thanks bros.
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>>183844935
shouldn't have been too hard to figure out desu
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>>183844429

don't worry I'm sure they'll delay it until September
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Well I'm actually looking forward to the full game now.
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>>183843342
Feel free to send the code to Anedime.
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>>183845946
sent ;)
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>>183846125
1v1 me irl and see if its still funny.
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Now what do we do with our lives?
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>>183846424
VoG every week
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>>183846424
Rap, tap, tap.
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>>183846424
PATA
PATA
PATA
PON
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>>183846918
Goddammit, forgot the pic
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>>183846424
Play the destiny killer beta which is available again this weekend
Raiders of the broken planet.
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>>183846918
I played this game once when I was a young lad. What's the appeal?
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>>183744181
BDobbins has always hated Destiny in general. He just uses it as a topic to shill on the money
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>>183847597
FEVER!
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>>183846424
Perhaps you could play a game of pretend?
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>>183847983
Did someone say, pretend?
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>>183846847
Screee
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>>183846424
Finish whatever you haven't done yet in Destiny 1.
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Wait, guys, I figured it out! Luke Smith said they wanted to unhide the fun in Destiny 2, and that's exactly what Bungie's done. There is no hidden fun in Destiny 2. Because there's no fun to hide.
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>countdown is elimination with objective nobody bothers with because it's fucking slow
>survival is elimination with pooled lives
>4v4

yeah, wow, thanks bungie
>>
Where is my live action trailer bungo?

https://youtu.be/9ZyQK6kUdWQ
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>>183849456
Yeah PvP has been the hardest pill to swallow. I don't know how they're going to salvage this one.
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>>183849834
>posting worst trailer
https://youtu.be/ZeVFGTd8C7w
I do miss Dinklage though
>>
Who here running 3 titans and maybe one lock in y4 because hunters are un fun and useless and locks are trash too.
>>
sat down in a quiet spot and took a clip while i could. here's a gem from the beta ost that plays during the famethrower cabal encounter on the tower

https://soundcloud.com/user-230428452/homecoming-final-tower-track/s-c5j1q
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>>183850110
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpDLxs8z08A
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>>183850316
what the fuck happened to the embed?
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>>183850415
>>183850110
>>183849834
>Not posting the actual best live action Destiny trailer
https://youtu.be/jS1BM9XRgvw
You fuckers don't respect Rudyard Kipling enough.
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>>183849834
>>183850415
D2 live action trailers better not use this shitty bands music
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>>183849456
>nobody bothers with the objective
???
>the objective is slow
???????
also in Elimination you could revive people infinitely, and do it after a reasonable amount of time, which puts it ahead of both gametypes
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>>183850316
>>183850614
sometimes 4chin fucks up like that
thanks for this though. good strings, very salvatori
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>>183850614
you put a space in the URL
https://soundcloud.com/user-230428452/homecoming-final-tower-track/s-c5j1q
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>>183850674
>not liking classic rock

Ultimate pleb status, if you posted your GT I would unironically blacklist you, and I am not autistic enough to blacklist anyone the last 3 years.
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>>183851086
OK fuck me, it's just fucking broken
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>>183850674
>implying they won't use Back in Black
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>>183850674
>Doesn't like Led Zepplin
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>>183851014
it's quicker to go out and just kill the other team
the bomb countdown is too long

what the coundown, like, 120 seconds?
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>>183851349
>>183851173
>>183851107
If I wanted dad rock I would visit the cringelords on /mu/, fuck off granpa
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>>183851595
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>>183851595
Go listen to your nigga bop, kiddo.
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>tfw only played like 2 hours of the beta on the days it was still private
>procrastinated the rest of the time and now it's gone
>hadn't fully formed an opinion yet
Fuck
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>>183851595
>implying /mu/ likes dadrock
>implying /mu/ doesn't listen and pretends to enjoy the shittiest sounds that could be barely classified as music

2 people in /mu/ will never be able to admit they like the same song anyway
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>>183851919
it was bad there you go
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>>183851919
It was good there you go.
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>>183852374
confirmed for never actually browsing moo

at least your first point was sort of true
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>>183851919
The PC beta will be sometime in August, you could play a little of that to see how you like it.
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>>183851919
I was casually optimistic before the beta and slowly became more indifferent to the thought of buying the full game as it went on so take that for what you will
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>>183852575
But it's true you faggot. What, you think Grimes is a lyrical fucking genius? Or when Fantano gives anything above a 7 /mu/ instantly screams AOTY.
>>
I miss the beta already
>>
So now that the beta is over do you think Bungie will have any more to reveal or will they stay silent until launch day?
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>>183852947
oh pls the entire board goes full contrarian mode anytime the bald fuck of p4k overrates whatever album of the week is being discussed at the moment
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how much of the game do you think we saw in the beta, /dg/? like 10%?
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>>183853364
Like 5%
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>>183853364
1/4 strikes
2/8 maps
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>>183853364
hopefully >>183853593 but I feel like it's much closer to 10%
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So I booted up destiny since the D2 beta ended. I havent played since right before kings fall hard mode came out and dont have the other expansion, I cant do jack shit can I? In the tower dicking around and I see players a whole 100 light above me.

I got an exotic sniper called the zen meteor out one of the two blues I had from who knows when though so thats pretty cool, is it any good?

>the shaders some of these players have
What the fuck is all this neon shit? It seriously make my eyes hurt.
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>>183853819
>I haven't played since x expansion pls spoonfeed me

These posts should be a bannable offense.
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>>183853364
Closer to 3%. We didn't get any of the patrol stuff, only one of hopefully 30+ missions, there should be at least 5 strikes, each PvP mode should have multiple maps. We know little about the loot system, mod system, vehicles, exotics, factions, vendors, etc...

The question is, will it be fun?
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>>183851919
I was really pissed off by all the little changes
after I got used to them I was left with good guns and bad guns, which I guess describes Destiny in a nutshell
also the Hunter abilities that were unlocked are predominantly good (i.e. either useful or fun, or often both useful and fun); I couldn't tell you about the other ones, I wasn't about to take time away from Huntering just to check them out when they won't carry over and will change by launch time
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I just want a weekend vendor market where Xür, Variks, and Gus the Slovenly argue with each other about who has better shit and tries to befriend Guardians
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>>183853364
well let's see
the first game had 20 missions on launch and 5 strikes, I'm betting they'll increase that but only by a paltry amount, also I heard they're going to have 6 mutliplayer modes which sounds about right
so let's say 22 missions and 6 strikes and 6 game modes (along with a really small fraction of the maps) that'd be 1/11 + 1/6 + 2/6 + let's say 2/9 for the maps
so somewhere between 16% and 80% by my completely objective math
oh and 0/1 raids, and 0/4 patrol spaces
OH SHI--
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>faggot teammate yelling in my ear calling the game trash
>phone in my right ear talking about some bullshit
>mfw trying to focus
>>
weekly when
>>
>hakke pulse rifles don't fire 4 shots anymore

so what sets them apart now besides their ugly as fuck color schemes? is it that they look like generic tacticool modern milsim shit?
>>
>>183857104
"Guardian, you will agree my wares are the finest in this system, yeeees?"
"My will is not my own, but you can choose to own these gauntlets for only 12 strange coins."
"Small human, can I interest you in the finest fragrance my people have produced? I call it... Schweddy Cabals."
You, too, can smell like the space turtle you wish you smelled like.
>>
>>183849854

Good, you PvP fags always ruin everything because all you want is your specific playstyle to be rewarded and fuck everyone else.
>>
>>183858342
>ugly
Shaders
>tacticool
Yes
Also, veist seems to have either an improved version of the rapid fire frame intrinsic perk, or they just fucked up the naming since all the veist guns had it. Both perks had deep reserves, but the regular rapid fire said "slightly faster reload when empty" while the veist rapid fire said just "faster reload while empty". So I imagine that certain manufacturers will favor certain intrinsic perks.
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>>183860234
Its probably just Bungie fucking up the descriptions on some guns. Veist's whole thing seems to be tons of ammo + faster reload on empty combined with low impact.
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>>183860234
Hakkes shit could be "precision", thought it'd be high impact shit
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>>183860926
The Pulse Rifle in the Survival video is high impact. Tough to say based on just a Rocket Launcher or the Grenade Launcher, seems like those would have more specific perks suited for the weapon type.
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>>183781595
I like that reload animation.
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>>183860735
Veist brand Vladof guns
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>>183856102
Whatever faggot I dont see how asking a question or two is spoonfeeding, I went back to destiny and it wasfun kiss my ass.
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>>183817323
>at 4700~
It's not too late, right?
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>>183862898
>3000
I think its definitely too late for me. I started playing when Year 2 started.
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>>183862898
>>183864107

Cut off date is next Tuesday.
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>>183864107
rip friendo
i'm already at 4835, and thats just from ghost hunting
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>>183861423
I see you're a man of taste
>>
>>183864107
>>183866050
Anything under 5500 is I literally don't play this game tier
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>>183860735
I wanna see a Veist handcannon.
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>tfw 2825 grimoire and been playing since D1 beta
Bungie hates casual players ;_;
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>>183868228
literally not possible to have under 5k grimoire if you played every xpak
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So uh, a bunch of Warlocks showed up in a still for the new Kamen Rider show over in Japan.
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>>183868491
I did though.
I have social anxiety so I only ever ran the first raid solo.
Which others can I run solo if I suck and have a 346 hunturd?
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>>183869182
this is the one about video games, right?
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>>183869945
No, this is the new one premiering next month. It's a mix and match rider. His main form is half tank, half rabbit.

His gimmick will be that his forms are half mechanical and half biological.
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>>183868228
Fucking collect ghosts you casual fuck
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>>183869945
No, that's ExAid. This is Blast or something I think?
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>>183870212
Tank as in tready tanks?
Looks a little bit like its a partially reused suit, the head shape reminds me of W, putting the dual split color scheme aside. But I guess so much of it is new that it doesn't matter. Neither side really gives off much of a purely organic vibe so they are kind of failing on that part.

I skipped over Ex Aid because they were reaching levels of tackiness that shouldn't even be possible. It'd be so nice if we could go back to the early Heisei era style; dusty and relatively down to earth.
>>
>>183870257
Build

>>183870576
Yes, tank as in treads and big cannon.
>>
>>183870219
Where's a good ghost guide and can you get them all in patrol?
>>
>>183870663
https://destinyghosthunter.net/
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>>183870707
Apparently this is only gonna give me 945g?
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>>183871115
You can also see how to find calcified fragments and siva fragments on the website.
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>>183869230
>I have social anxiety
it's a video game and not a nightclub, you pussy
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>>183871505
Last time I went to a nightclub I farted and it made a girl puke in my lap which made me puke in a guy's beer which made me end up with a black eye
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>>183869182
That looks kickass
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>>183871783
Kamen Rider is pretty decent most of the time. Suits looks cool, action is cool, monster designs are cool.

Of course, it all depends on what season you watch. There's been everything from dramatic noir private detective Kamen Rider (W), to wacky "Mean Girls" high school Kamen Rider (Fourze), to B-boy dance groups who play a pokemon style game but then it gets SUPER heavy and really good fruit themed Kamen Rider (Gaim)
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>>183871973
Gaim sounds fucking insane
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>>183872623
You have no idea.
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>>183853819
>>183862285
I ireturned to the game recently and am still findng my feett after getting to 400 light and having to deal with people on LFG that are complete garbage. Leveling up is easy. Finding a group of competent players is harder than ever because any decentt group of people stay in regular raid groups.
>>
>>183872623
Drive is a more traditional series (but also one of the better ones) if you want to start somewhere and don't want to watch 10+ year old series.
>>
>>183873840
And by "traditional" I do mean not having a mega huge cast like Gaim's with a web of interactions and factions. Drive primarily uses a car instead of a bike and that's kind of a first for the franchise.

Gotta innovate somehow to stay fresh after more than 45 years in the running.
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>>183870707
Don't post here if yours doesn't mimic this.
>>
Don't post here unless you have 5650 grimoire
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>>183874438
>caring about Grimoire

wew lad
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>>183874960
shitter
>>
>>183875504
autist
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>>183816805
The Ram best looking helmet ever.
>>
>Everywhere but here bitches incessantly about Titan's and their players
Did I miss something?
>>
>>183874960
Grimoire is a bigget determinant of skill than anything else, followed by raid K/D
>>
>>183876378
Consider how bad the average Destiny player is for a second.
>>
Guys I got a bad case of the raiding bug this wait for D2 is gonna kill me
>>
>>183876591
Raid k/d is a meme and can be easily farmed

Playing with dogshit lfgers made mine get cut by half
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>>183876591
>The number that indicates how much you've grinded and meticulously searched for collectibles is an indicator of skill
Its more of a fucking dedication and patience number than anything.
t. ~5500 Grimoire score
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>>183876591
Nothing your skill as a player affects counts towards your grimoire score, stop trying to find a reason to e-dick stroke over it.
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>>183876942
It shows complete mastery of the game, in PvE and PvP. You don't max Grimoire without being good at both, kid.

>>183876830
>t. shitter getting carried throug raids
>>
>>183876378
see
>>183780181
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>>183876591
PvP stats > PvE stats

when it comes to skill indication, being good against AI means fuck all
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>>183876251
muh nigga
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>>183877079
>t shitter
i have max grimoire kek
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>>183877384
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>>183877614
>nitpick a 16 year old shitter
Whatever makes you feel better
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So are you guys gonna do some detective work in to the possible ARG or am I gonna have to look elsewhere

I haven't seen the lorefags in a bit and I'm worried the shitposters scared them off
>>
>>183877246
Not just from the beta though, I see the majority bitching about Titans in 1 as well to this day.
>>
>>183877854
Morse code translates to 27a
August 27th
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>>183878113
PC beta date?
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>>183878291
Probably lel
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>>183878325
seems likely, it could run a week and then just stop right before console launch

ARG s o l v e d
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>>183853364
Like 5%, not to mention it fucked up the lore entirely. How we gonna start off with new subclasses completely unexplained, what the fuck?
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>https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/6o7691/number_of_people_who_went_in_homecoming_feeling//
>people found the turbine shut down challenging
:/
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>>183878459
I honest to god didn't realise you could die on that bit until I visited Bungie.net later in the evening

people astound me
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>>183877614
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>>183878448
I'd much rather have Sunsinger than Dawnblade, especially with the slower ability recharge times, Sunsinger would have fucking shone and I always enjoyed how it itself wasn't a "super" and how it just amped you up for a bit
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>>183878459
I died once on that part and only because it isn't obvious at first where you can walk, since the area you can walk looked like it was covered in electricity.
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>>183878538
>always been a massive Blizzdrone since WarCraft II
>Combat Evolved got me to buy a console
>Bungie games were 90% of why I kept getting consoles

>Bungie game launching on Blizzard's service on PC

I'm literally in video game nirvana
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>>183878591
I understand. My comment is in regards to some valid cririsiam about the story showcased in the beta. I feel like the real game would limit us to Gun, Striker, and Voidwalker because lore.. but in the beta they included the new subclasses because "hey lets let them play a story mission with their new powers!". Least I hope Bungie is capable of thinking this critically.
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>>183877919
op since d1 alpha
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>>183878917
>opening mission is the only chance to play D1 sublasses
Please.
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>>183843479
what a faggot
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>>183879120
pfahahahaahah

usually brits are not this fucking pussy. How does he even walk outside his front door to the shops without getting triggerd?
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>>183879120
>I'm putting a lot of time and effort into what I do

he's literally just playing video games

why do YouTubers/streamers have such over inflated egos, they do absolutely fuck all of worth
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>>183879120
What ks his favorite super Pussybreaker or PussyHorn?
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>>183876251

Astrocyte Verse was way better. I actually ended up using it when I decided being /fa/ was more important than being sweaty with the snake arms.
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>>183880325
It's a VERY close second to me. I like it a lot, but I just love The Ram a tiny bit more.
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>>183878917

This will probably be the case.

>First level is D1 subclass with a full tree (or both) unlocked
>Get slapped down to fucking nothing again
>Either given the choice of both subclasses or have to unlock the D1 one again (like original D1 before they realised that was a retarded design choice)
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I wanna be the very best
Like no one ever was
To catch them is my real test
To train them is my cause

I will travel across the land
Searching far and wide
Each exotic gun to understand
The power that's inside

Destiny (gotta catch them all) its you and me
I know its my destiny
Destiny, oh, you're my best friend
In a world we must defend
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>>183880517
gay
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us bros where do you buy amazon us gift cards? Looking to import that D2 PS4 Pro
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Name one thing you miss about Destiny
>quickdraw
;_;
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>>183881864
Real perk trees
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>>183881864
Enjoying the subclasses.
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>>183858894
>Tfw called a PvE fag yesterday
Are there, like, groups of people that only play Crucible and never Raid? And vice versa?
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>>183883208
>not playing the literal best parts of destiny
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>>183880325
ophidian looks fuckin rad with the cobra osiris bond. colors the same and really completes the snek look
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>>183883208
>Are there, like, groups of people that only play Crucible and never Raid? And vice versa?
Yeah, it's pretty fucking weird. There are people that absolutely despise pvp/pve and never do it when it's not necessary.
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>>183883334
I really miss the fun days of VoG at the start. That shit was golden.
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>>183877614
meguca?
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>>183883208
No, but people who moan about pvpfags are pvefags.
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>>183881864
Titanskate, but thats about it assuming cooldowns are fixed on launch.

I actually like 2 a little more than 1, but it feels more like a second take than a second act. All the improvememts make me feel more like saying "about time" rather than "oh, cool" or anything like that.
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>>183881864
PvE perk combos
FoH damage, Blessings, Weapons, Iron Harvest
building momentum
Sepiks, Echo Chamber, Taniks, Nexus and Winter's Run
MGs and Field Scout (and ammo perks on armor even though they are ass to rng)
Blind Watch, Burning Shrine, First Light, Shores, Dungeons, Bannerfall, Vertigo and Floating Gardens
Saint, Alpha Lupi, NBP, Thunderlord and Dragon's Breath

Zone Control and Freelance also better be in 2
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>>183881864

The Chaperone, before it got nerfed into uselessness.
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>>183884039
Reading comprehension. I said one thing, not your wishlist that you e-mailed to bungie 6 times.
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>>183884053
>You now remember the absolute butt fluster all across bungie.net and reddit about the chaperone quest being too hard
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>>183884161
fuck replying 28 times
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>>183883208

Yes, there are, they also happen to have the loudest opinions and people like me, that do both in a balanced way get fucked over.
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>>183883334
The fact they keep parading the number of people who don't complete Raids boggles my mind
>>183883632
It's funny I can't count how many times I've transitioned from a Raid to a pubstomp
>>183883836
Vicious cycle
>>183884302
Figures. And I bet Bungie is going to keep listening to them
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>>183861423
I hate how the semi-auto pistols slide doesn't lock back when empty.
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>>183884601

Which is partly why I'm cautiously optimistic. I think a lot of the changes are really good, but most of the time it's PvP fags that want the game to feel like CoD that are going around yelling the loudest. These are the people defending their bullshit lucky rolls by saying "Muh replayability" when they know that's not what kept them going, the Crucible did.
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Is anyone else here genuinely excited? I love how everything looks, I love the new weapon system (mainly because it's what we had in the E3 2013 demo) all the gear looks fantastic. (yes even the xboxhueg titan shoulders) I just really hope there's a lot of content. More than Taken King would be fantastic.
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>>183884781
I feel you, but I don't think TTK is the biggest issue currently. I don't see a problem with a single super a match but abilities shouldn't be on such a long CD, especially when it doesn't work in concert with PvE
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>>183884915
im pretty fucking hype, but its mostly because i only care about the PVE
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>>183884915
I am. The guns are not underpowered on PVE. Cabal just have a lot of health.The exotic hand cannon one shots shanks and dredges.

The maps are going to be huge, with a fuckton of shit to do (10 types of public events, adventures, storys, lost sectors). Strikes are now much bigger and seem to be styled more like raids.

The fags bitching about movement are stupid, movement stat is built into gear as a base state.
>B.... BUT IT DOES BARLEY ANYTHING!!!
Yeah, this is low-mid level gear, no fucking shit.
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>>183885131
And people say the launch grind wasn't bullshit
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>>183885284
But from what we've seen kitting towards mobility doesn't make a huge difference. I hope the fags crying "IT'S STARTING GEAR DUHHH" are, relatively, right.
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>>183884915
>(mainly because it's what we had in the E3 2013 demo)
oh not again
it is NOT what we had in the E3 2013 demo
what was in the E3 demo was something like Specials and Heavies can go in 2 slots meaning you can have 1 primary + 2 specials or 1 primary + 1 special + 1 heavy
what we have in D2 is 2 primaries + 1 special / heavy

2013 demo != D2
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>>183885284
nah, the guns are some fraction weaker than D1 at the same light
and I doubt there is a difference between 10 agility with basic gear and 10 agility with "better" gear
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>>183885813
Where in the 2013 demo did it show someone with 1 primary and 2 special/heavy weapons? I'd like an image, video or something to prove what you're saying.
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>>183885784
>But from what we've seen kitting towards mobility doesn't make a huge difference

Hunters start full mobility. It's blue level gear baseed on drops
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>>183886147
>https://youtu.be/WBNdrJMwrkc?t=467 (@7:48 & @8:37)
hunter with a sniper and a fusion
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>>183885284
>>B.... BUT IT DOES BARLEY ANYTHING!!!
>Yeah, this is low-mid level gear, no fucking shit.
You're retarded. Res and rec have meaningful effects yet mobility doesn't mean shit. If you increase the gear level it isn't as though this would help mobility more than it helps res and rec.
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>>183886375
I'm proven wrong. Thank you for informing me.
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>>183885284
>titanskate is gone
>JUST USE THE MOBILITY STAT
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>>183884915
While graphics aren't the most important thing, I like that the game looks better.
Them spending the time to bump up the graphics gives me hope that shit under the hood is better optimized for current gen.
Though it is entirely possible that they focused in graphics first.
Didn't notice any frame drops on my bone or ps4 though. So with the limited info we have I am excited.
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>>183884219

In fairness, the shit-tier netcode of D1 made that quest a nightmare, especially with the nonsense calculation equation for progressing.

>Go positive KDR, get +2%
>Go neutral, -12%
>Go negative, -3%

I actually went from 90% to 0% back to 100 over three days. Compare it to the first curse quest which I got in one game of classic rumble and it was ludicrous
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>>183886642
just use higher jump it's the same shitty version of skating as D1
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>>183886642
>titanbabby mad he can't cheese

Mayhaps now you have to git gud?
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>>183887012
>using increased height to skate

>>183887064
>lets slow everything down instead of bringing things up to titan's mobility level
>including ability cooldown and TTK
>lets make the game into halo minus the good vehicles and maps
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>>183886948
chaperone was piss easy if you didn't think so you're a shitter
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Is Destiny 2 out yet?
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>>183887198
Yes on PC. Sept for consoles
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>>183887305
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>>183887169
>let's slow everything down

Nonono, titanbabby, we are removing your class specific cheese. We are slowing YOU down.

Git gud
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>>183887431
>t-the game in general hasn't been slowed down!
hahaha sure okay
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>>183881864
Being able to customize my class
I really miss that ability already and D2 isn't even out yet, FUCK

I can see so many interesting builds but cant apply them
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Can we talk about jumping?

>character deflects off of inclines, even small champfered edges
>character jumps six feet in a world made of six-foot-one obstacles with champfered edges
>blink knocking out your radar for ages when making shotguns heavies was already enough of a nerf for it
>titan jump getting gutted

Blink actually strikes me as even more fucked than titan jumping. No shotgun secondaries and long ass radar downtime means warping in doesn't work as well, and the fact that you have to reach the apex of your jump before you can blink horizontally means you can't use blink as an immediate escape option either (since going straight up would make you a sitting duck), whereas you can instantly move against your velocity while airborne with the icarus dodge. All this stuff could have been reworked but wasn't.

>>183887064
>implying we won't just switch to dawnbreaker
>implying this isn't yet another limited edition bungie-"we thing things should take turns being the meta"-balance episode
slow

>>183887431
>we
>>>>>>we
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>>183887725
Blink is fine, it needs drawbacks or it would be the be all end all PvP jump. It allows warlocks to be one of the fastest moving classes as is, and makes SMGs pretty deadly because a Lock can close the gap instantly if he knows the enemy is near.
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>>183887848
>it needs drawbacks or it would be the be all end all PvP jump.
its worse than the standard warlock jetpack at the moment, even without icarus dodge. You want to jump up an inch higher than your normal dodge just to get on point B? Congrats, you have to either blink all the way up into the sky where the guys at heavy spawns can shoot you, blink into a ceiling's corner so that the people on the point can shot you while you stand in a dead end, or walk backwards so that you can blink forwards without going too far, which requires taking time to back up and time to hit the apex of your jump. Menwhile warlock pack can just boost straight up and then let off the gas to jump over without having to go through a dumb climbing animation. All of the other issues blink has are just bonus weaknesses it doesn't need. Everything but dawnbreaker jump is underpowered atm.
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>>183888260
>higher than your normal dodge
than your normal jump I mean

would have been way more useful for blink to move perpendicular to your velocity
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>>183887725
Dawnbreaker still can't skate.

>>183887541
Pure movement wise, it really has not, especially as a hunter main.
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>>183886518
>If you increase the gear level it isn't as though this would help mobility

But it will help it. If you increased mobility more dramatically early on, late game there would be nothing but sanics running around.

>>183885993
So you think one of two things...

>We cap stats at at mid game
Or...
>higher level gear does not give higher stats

Both are dumb
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>>183888359
I'd prefer it of they just made blink into a perk where you do the icarus dodge input prior to using your jump to do a blinkjump instead. Though unlike the dodge, its a substitute for the jump, not something that can be done in the middle of one. Then titans could probably get about half thwir skate back and hunters could get some spiderman shit so that they actually became fun to play.
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>>183888260
You suck with blink. Learn to control your points of takeoff and landing and you can make it to basically everything a normal floaty jump would do

especially in D2 where all jumps suck cock
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>>183888840
>But it will help it.
No it wont, none will use it. If 10 res is better than 10 mobility, then 20 res is probably gonna be better than 20 mobility.
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>>183889691
Softcaps and scaling fixes this.

But of course, if mobi does not matter why are you bitching about it?
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>>183889636
>Learn to control your points of takeoff and landing
Reading comprehension pal. What I just said was that the drawback blink had was that you have way more limited points of takeoff and landing. That IS the weakness, not a way "around" the weakness.

>g-git gud
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>>183889870
>if mobi does not matter why are you bitching about it?
Because it doesn't matter? Thats exactly why retard.

>the first ten points of mobi were useless, but the eleventh one will be huge! Trust me!
Sure
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>>183890017
Then why are you complaining about the game slowing down, if mobi does not matter?

>thinking you know how high the stats will go end game, and how it will scale
brainlet
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>>183884915

I'm excited. Most of the complaints are from PvP fags that can't adapt, and so resort to whining and crying for the shitty, shitty old system back.
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>>183884997

No, no. You see, we are playing with zero cooldown reduction. Everyone, you included seem to have forgotten that your 30 second and instant cooldowns in D1 were due to gear and weapon perks.

Again, make a new character in Destiny and use a grenade, it takes just as long.
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>>183890719
This. They are used to "I'M A CARRY I'M THE GREATEST 360 NO SCOPE BITCH", and now it's team based. The lone wolf fags can't cope. It's great.
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>>183890895
This. Shitters have to build for/earn CDR, at the expense of other stats. This allows for actual builds.
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>>183890895
>it takes just as long.
not that long
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>>183889882
Literally git gud. If you know how to use it its just as valid as floaty jump.
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>>183890895
>No, no. You see, we are playing with zero cooldown reduction. Everyone, you included seem to have forgotten that your 30 second and instant cooldowns in D1 were due to gear and weapon perks.
>Again, make a new character in Destiny and use a grenade, it takes just as long.
These aren't entierly new characters though. The 200-210 light strike drops blue engrams, not grey or green, so we're at least three quarters through the path to getting legit legendary gear. The endgame cooldowns will be better than what we have, but this is closer to the end than the beginning.

>>183890719
>crying for the shitty, shitty old system back.
Pretty much everyone complaining has suggested new ideas, the only old thing people want back is titan mobility.

>>183890930
good job admitting that you couldn't carry
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>>183891269
>If you know how to use it its just as valid as floaty jump.
who fucking cares

"I think this is slightly worse than the shitty floaty jump"
"Oh yeah? I think this is ABOUT THE SAME as the shitty floaty jump!"

big fucking difference pal, its still bad
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>>183891643
The gear they gave us has zero CDR. The gear we have seen in trailers, at that light level, do have CDR. It

Does not matter what level the gear is if the stat is not there. This is not just a good gameplay decision, it's a great one. You now have to build for CDR
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>>183891759
Your problem is that you suck, so you want blink to be something it isn't. It isn't meant to do all the same things float does, or it would just be float. It is for horizontal quick movement, flummoxing an opponent, closing a gap or making a horizontal jump in PvE.

You seem to want it to also allow you intricate control of height and distance as well on top of this?

You don't think this would be even slightly OP?

You are just bad if you cant blink and make it do whatever you want to in the beta.
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>>183891643
>the only old thing people want back is titan mobility.

Yeah, if by people you mean titan mains who want to have redicluious OP movement with a OHK tied into it. Those people are shitters and should be instantly ignored. Fuck em.
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>>183891914
>This is not just a good gameplay decision, it's a great one. You now have to build for CDR
I'm not saying that there's a problem with this, I'm saying that building into it is probably not going to make as much of a difference as you think.

>>183892121
>a OHK tied into it.
not with D2's TTK and lack of shotgun secondaries
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>>183889636
>you can make it to basically everything a normal floaty jump would do
lol
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>>183892415
This
There's no reason for Titan movement to be nerfd when Hunters still have the best vertical movement and Warlocks stole an exotic Titan ability.
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>>183892076
>You don't think this would be even slightly OP?
Not one bit, it would make it actually enjoyable. If anything you could add additional functionality like being able to charge it to change the distance, which goes hand in hand with how voidwalkers charge grenades.

>but then its better than other jumps!
then make other jumps better too
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>>183892415
>not with D2's

No shit, and to much bellyaching. Titans want to essentially be OP. Fuck them.
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>>183892839
>No shit, and to much bellyaching.
Are you retarded? The point wasn't that D2 needs to have D1's TTK, it was that the TTK fix means titan mobility wouldn't be OP.

>People suggest that every jump in the game needs to be better
>"titans want to be OP"
you're just a fucking moron
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>>183892501
Confirmed controllet

>>183892594
ok fair enough if you're arguing for greater mobility across the board, I completely agree, I think D2 should have embraced the crazy mobility rather than removing it. Bungie just showed themselves to hate fun when they fucked up skating becaues they were butthurt the fans found a way to make the game fun.
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>>183892415
>>>183892415
>I'm saying that building into it is probably not going to make as much of a difference as you think.

You are not basing this off of anything at all, and it's not even logical.
>let's give CDR as a stat but have it do nothing
Said nobody ever
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>>183893298
>>let's give CDR as a stat but have it do nothing
>Said nobody ever
Well they said it about the mobility stat. If CDR stats are no better or worse than the stats we have, they won't make a huge difference. I mean, how much of a difference did max movement speed make in the beta? 10% more speed? And maybe with endgame gear it might go up to 15%, being generous? Would something like 15% CDR be enough to make D2's cooldown feel okay? The alternative is that CTR perks are just way better than the stat perks we have now, but that would ultimately kill what you were hoping for with the builds since everyone would just use CTR.

Expecting bungie to be logical as opposed to fun hating is not very logical either. Considering we have past-halfway point gear, it's a little weaker than it ought to be.
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>>183893640
So many god damn assumptions and outright logical inaccuracy's in this post, i will be surprised if i can get them all without breaking it into two posts. Welp, lets go.

>Well they said it about the mobility stat.
Assumptions based upon how mobility will scale.

>If CDR stats are no better or worse than the stats we have
Mid level scaling has us with 2 stats that make meaningful improvements and one that makes minor improvements. Inaccurate statement.

> they won't make a huge difference
Assumptions based upon mid level scaling.

> And maybe with endgame gear it might go up to 15%
Huge assumptions based upon mid level scaling.

>Would something like 15% CDR be enough to make D2's cooldown feel okay?
Assumptions based upon, well nothing really (unless you think an entirely different stat is the only metric to judge by); Logically inaccurate.

> The alternative is that CTR perks are just way better than the stat perks we have now
Depends. For PVP, sure, although you might see mobility/toughness and singular CDR (grenades only for example, which logically would effect more than just total CDR). PVE is entirely situational. For PVP, lower CDR might be built into a primary perk of a gun, when you might want something more PVP focused, like damage perks. It all depends, logically. Your statement is wrought with assumptions.

>but that would ultimately kill what you were hoping for with the builds since everyone would just use CTR.
See above, i will reiterate PVE having far more reasons to not just build CDR than PVE.

>Expecting bungie to be logical as opposed to fun hating is not very logical either.
Demagoguery. If you dont trust bungie, and done like what they do, then full stop here. If you think bungie is anti fun at such a level that they will actively remove fun, WHY ARE YOU BUYING THEIR PRODUCT?

>Considering we have past-halfway point gear
Logically incorrect. Glitch drops are dropping blues, which solidly puts us at mid

Just made it into one post.
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>>183894598
>Assumptions based upon how mobility will scale.
>assumptions based on scaling
so you're assuming that the 11th point of mobility is going to have a huge fucking impact when the first 10 didn't? But I'm the one "assuming"? Retard.

>Assumptions based upon, well nothing really (unless you think an entirely different stat is the only metric to judge by)
It is retard. Either CTR is in line with the other stats, or the other stats end up underpowered. Pick one. One of those options means CTR is too weak. The other one means that it becomes the only thing people use by virtue of the fact that everything else is too weak, bringing us back to destiny 1's armor setups.

>Glitch drops are dropping blues, which solidly puts us at mid
Barring exotics there are four tiers, blue is the third of four, which is three quarters. Turbo-retard.
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>>183895103
>so you're assuming that the 11th point of mobility
Reductio ad absurdum. I am stating its logical for toughness and regen to start scaling down based off of how OP it would be if it kept up the scaling till end game. You would basically just keep regening if it scaled at an equal level. Furthermore, based upon mobility's scaling, i logically expect it to keep on at a steady scale till endgame.

>Either CTR is in line with the other stats
The other stats have 2 making meaningful improvements. Which would mean it would not be too weak. The "other one" being the only choice is logically inaccurate based upon need.

>Ignoreing a tier there are four tiers
Well yeah, if you ignore things, things scale different. Sadly this is not how the world works.

>Turbo-retard
My my, you are mad. Lets go back to your demagoguery. Why are you buying bungie products if you think they are anti fun?
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VoG?
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>>183895563
>"It would be bad if things stayed at the same power they are, so I'm gonna assume there's a huge fucking change out of nowhere behind the next door"
>Reductio ad absurdum.
That's not what reductio ad absurdum is you dumb idiot. Maybe if you actually knew what logic was instead of assuming it was just a matter of fronting a Spock-like demeanor you'd actually understand it.

>The other stats make meaningful improvements
How much resilience do you need before your TTD changes from four pulse shots to five? It's gonna be four regardless of the stat. Recovery is also not that important considering any sane warlock is going to be running healing aura, they're only slightly more useful stats than mobility.

>Ignoring a tier
Exotics aren't a tier in the same sense that any other are. You get an exotic weapon at the start of the fucking game.

>Lets go back to your demagoguery.
>"let's go back to talking about a joke you made that got interpreted overly litteraly by me, because I can't talk on any other front due to getting blown the fuck out on them"
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>>183895681
k
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>>183895681
booting
up
my
gamecube
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>>183896110
>That's not what reductio ad absurdum is you dumb idiot.
Well yeah, stating i believing that 1 more point will change everything is defacto reducing my point to absurdity. Stating i believe that everything will stay the same power as they are now is not only a straight lie, its not even logically consistent.

>How much resilience do you need before your TTD changes from four pulse shots to five?
This already happened in the beta with scout rifles. You are now arguing from a position of ignorance.

>You get an exotic weapon at the start of the fucking game.
Wrong, those exotics are not class specific (proven in the recent IGN vid), nor do we know what shax gives us in the actual mission. Again, arguing from a position of ignorance.

>Me stating "Expecting bungie to be logical as opposed to fun hating is not very logical either" was all an ebin joke.
Pure damage control, because you realize it is inherently illogical.

Personally, and this is subjective opinion, i think you just want to bitch to hear yourself bitch. You are reading posts not to understand my point, but to respond; to argue. I suggest you actually learn about the game (exotics not being class specific, not knowing about the toughness changing the TTK), before posting about it.
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>>183896110
I missed this point...

>Exotics aren't a tier in the same sense that any other are.
Except they are, they represent complete end level gear. They always drop at end game LL (assuming you get it in the current year). The only reason you are arguing against this is because it kind of destorys one of your core points, so you have to. Again going back to you reading my posts not to understand, but to argue.
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>>183896514
>reducing my point to absurdity.
When you reduce a point to absurdity it means you've proven it's negation, don't use words you don't understand. RAA is a proof method, not a memey "debate fallacy".

>This already happened in the beta with scout rifles.
wow yeah, that you make a huge difference if people actually used scout rifles over the pulse.

>Wrong, those exotics are not class specific
When the hell did I say they were class specific exotics? I said they were exotics. Please highlight the part where I said exotics were class specific, if you will, instead of stating that they aren't and then pretending that I didn't know. Little bitch.

>saying bungie makes dumb decisions is illogical
dumb little bungodrone
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>>183896705
>playing a ded console
See me when you grow up and get an Atari 2600, kid.
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>>183896819
>Except they are, they represent complete end level gear.
haha yeah you aren't completely endgame unless you're wearing full exotic armor and three exotic weapons!!!

>The only reason you are arguing against this is because it kind of destorys one of your core points
Even if you were right it wouldn't make a difference. You can rewrite everything I wrot and replace "past the halfway point" with "at the halfway point" and it would hold all the same.
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>>183892502

Shut the fuck up. Titan skating had to go. You could never outrun or catch a titan before, so don't start crying now that you're not broken, fucking faggot.
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>>183896937
>that you make
that would make*
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>>183892415

It is going to make the difference I think, because we have yet to see how much CDR the cooldown reduction mods will do, on top of whatever weapon mods they'll have for CDR, shit, the ghost shell can have mods, might even tie into that.
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>>183897192
>Titan skating had to go. You could never outrun or catch a titan before
so then buff the other forms of mobility

I'm not him and I'll concede that it needed a nerf, but as it stands its more like it's just been outright removed.
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>wanting tribes levels of speed and mobility
Ahem. "No."
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>>183896937
>When you reduce a point to absurdity it means you've proven it's negation,
Objectively and proverbially an incomplete (thus incorrect) definition.
>reductio ad absurdum (Latin for "reduction to absurdity"; or argumentum ad absurdum, "argument to absurdity") is a form of argument which attempts either to disprove a statement by showing it inevitably leads to a ridiculous, absurd, or impractical conclusion, or to prove one by showing that if it were not true, the result would be absurd or impossible.
>don't use words you don't understand.
See above
>not a memey "debate fallacy".
It is a base logical fallacy, featured in Aristotles "Prior Analytics"

>wow yeah, that you make a huge difference if people actually used scout rifles over the pulse.
At mid game it shows a noticeable difference with low impact weapons. Logically at end game it would show the same with high impact weapons due to scaling. Thank you for admitting you were wrong.

>When the hell did I say they were class specific exotics?
I forgot i have to logically break things down for you, apologies. If they are not class specific, that means you don't get them in the mission based upon your current class. Ergo they were placeholders. Ergo you dont get them at the "start of the fucking game".

>dumb little bungodrone
So now not only are you suddenly not joking, im a drone for pointing out your logical reasoning mistakes. Furthermore, every company and person is capable of mistakes, however this does not mean they will go against logic and reason for every single design choice.

>>183897169
>haha yeah you aren't completely endgame unless you're wearing full exotic armor and three exotic weapons!!!
Reductio ad absurdum aside, yes, i would argue that without 2 exotics (for your build) you are not really at end game.

>and it would hold all the same.
Wrong, Halfway is an exact point, past the halfway logically means anything from halfway to end game. Furthermore 1/2 =/ 3/4
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>>183897383
>but as it stands its more like it's just been outright removed.
Good.

>so then buff the other forms of mobility
No, not only would that mean giveing all classes skate (and thus removing the differences in their jumps), it is retarded.

Titanbabbys pls go and stay go.
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>>183897554
>proverbially

Provably*
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>>183802996

What about this instead?

Bob didn't know previously, but I had made a Destiny General group 2 years ago. It's why he had to add "dg" in the front of his.

https://www.bungie.net/en/Clan/Detail/689826
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>>183897192
>>183897680
>t. Couldn't skate
Seriously man you're not even arguing merits for removing the skate. The maps are small enough now to negate its speed, and a rushing Titan will get dropped pretty quick by a competent fire team. Your sperg out tears are delicious though. Form a coherent argument, there's plenty of reasons for changing Titan mobility but you haven't said anything substantive.
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>>183897554
>>When you reduce a point to absurdity it means you've proven it's negation,
>Objectively and proverbially an incomplete (thus incorrect) definition.
>>reductio ad absurdum (Latin for "reduction to absurdity"; or argumentum ad absurdum, "argument to absurdity") is a form of argument which attempts either to disprove a statement by showing it inevitably leads to a ridiculous, absurd, or impractical conclusion, or to prove one by showing that if it were not true, the result would be absurd or impossible.
>>don't use words you don't understand.
>See above
>>not a memey "debate fallacy".
>It is a base logical fallacy, featured in Aristotles "Prior Analytics"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reductio_ad_absurdum

Here's how reductio ad absurdum actually works

>Example problem:
>Premise 1) If A, then B
>Premise 2) Not-B
>Prove Not-A
>Step 1) Assume A for a conditional proof:
>>Step 2) By line 1 (A) and 4 (A then B), we have B
>>Step 3) By line 2 (not-B) and line 5 (B) we have both B and not-B, an absurdity
>therefore, A necessarily leads to an absurdity
>therefore, not-A

Stop using words you don't understand, it's a means of highlighting a contradiction to prove a negation. It's the opposite of a fallacy.

>past the halfway logically means anything from halfway to
it doesn't mean anything past halfway, it means something past halfway. If you understood how existential quantifiers worked maybe you would have picked up on that, but chances are you'd be unable to explain the image I'd posted a few points :^).

>If they are not class specific, that means you don't get them in the mission based upon your current class.
Then how come we got them in the mission based on our starting class? Just because one class gets one exotic and another class gets a different one doesn't mean that only one class can use one or the other. Some classes started out with scathelocke and some didn't, does that mean the scalthelocke has to be a class-exclusive gun?
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>>183802996
>pc
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>>183897854
fuck off
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>it's yet another two autists sperg out one another contributing nothing to the thread episode
Once arguments devolve into the 'walls of text' phase, they should be bannable. This shit is getting ridiculous
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>>183898149
>t. Couldn't skate

Yeah, its kind of hard to skate when you are not a titan you idiot.
> The maps are small enough now to negate its speed
Titans getting to points sanic speed, then setting up shields is not a huge advantage

>Your sperg out tears are delicious though.
Uhh, we are not the ones who will never, ever skate again fucccboi. Enjoy it.

> Form a coherent argument
We already did. Other classes cant skate, to get them to skate would remove their unique jumps.
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>>183898258
text chat at the tower etc. as well as clan chat will make the game infinitely better, tho

fuck the graphics and frame fidelity

t e x t c h a t
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>>183898226
>>>Step 2) By line 1 (A) and 4 (A then B), we have B
switched up 1 and 4
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>>183898226
>a few points
"a few posts back", not sure where that one came from.
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>>183898264

No.
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>>183898386
>will make the game infinitely better
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>>183898226
>it's a means of highlighting a contradiction to prove a negation.
It can be, yes, thats not its only definition though, as i have substantially proven. Its proving a negation OR showing it leads to an impractical conclusion. This is 100% inarguable, based upon multiple dictionary definitions. You are now arguing from a position of SELF IMPOSED ignorance.
>Stop using words you don't understand
I would ask of you the same.

>it doesn't mean anything past halfway, it means something past halfway.
"Past halfway" is anything from half way to end game, logically. Again, this is inarguable. Example: Endgame is past halfway though the game.

>Then how come we got them in the mission based on our starting class?
It was logically a placeholder to show off exotics, now that we know its not class specific.
>Just because one class gets one exotic and another class gets a different one doesn't mean that only one class can use one or the other.
Then we get into, how does a titan get a hunter gun?
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>>183898258
yh, my dude. I'm stoked af~
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>>183898805
>It can be, yes, thats not its only definition though
>"Y-you're right but I'm right too still"
No you're fucking not, you didn't even properly read what Aristotle wrote yet you're claiming I'm imposing ignorance on myself. Making up your own bullshit definition doesn't seriously mean that it's got a different definition.

>I would ask of you the same.
>Btfo
>"I know what you are but what am I?"
lmfao

>>Then how come we got them in the mission based on our starting class?
>It was logically a placeholder to show off exotics
Yeah but HOW? The fact that they can be used as what you think are placeholders PROVES that different guardiance CAN get different exotics at the start, even if all guardians are capable of holding them, THEREFORE the fact that all guardians are capable of holding them DOES NOT prove that they can't be handed out differently based on starting class.

>how does a titan get a hunter gun?
vault trade you retard, did you not play D1?
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>>183897854
I'd rather have 99 other PC dudes, not due to pathetic elitism, but stemming from Blizzard's awful handling of cross-region friends on their service

having the ability to go "want to do some strikes?" in clan chat to 30 odd online dudes spread across different countries via clan chat will be handy as fuck

were they to remove the 100 cap, then obviously it would be lovely for us to all buddy up
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>>183898373
At least you admit you couldn't.

Shoot the shields, nade the point. I don't see how this is so difficult for you.

Titans can't blink, should we remove that too? How about the air dodge? Seems kind of OP.
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>>183899232

I think you misunderstood me. That clan I linked will only be for PC players from here.

Bob's clan is PS4, I'm pretty sure.

I'm playing on both PS4 and PC, but my main place is on PC now.
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>>183899117
>things cannot have multiple definitions.
I have argued from the beginning that your claimed definition of "Reductio ad absurdum" was incomplete.
>Making up your own bullshit definition
I am Merriam-Webster? https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/reductio%20ad%20absurdum
You, again, are arguing not against me, but against multiple dictionary's.

>he fact that they can be used as what you think are placeholders PROVES that different guardian CAN get different exotics at the start,
Nobody is arguing that bungie cant drop whatever they want when they want, we are going off of whats logical.

>vault trade
Ahh, excellent point. I did not consider this, and recant my argument at this point. You are right.
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>>183899305
>At least you admit you couldn't.
Uhh...yeah. If you are not a titan, you cant skate. Its pretty simple anon.

>dude just deal with them when they are already capturing the point before you got there
The fact that they got to the point first with class based abilities is OP.

>Titans can't blink, should we remove that too?
You are confusing tactical abilities with strategic abilities.
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https://twitter.com/DestinyTheGame/status/890240550544093184

FREEZE
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>>183900043
>our own beam rifle

Noice
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>>183898258
it's going to be great
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>>183900043

>preorder exotic
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>>183900043
I'm not big on the idea of a preorder exotic, honestly

On the other hand, though, it looks pretty fun
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>>183900043
>Ice as a new elemental damage type
So THAT'S why they haven't said shit about 3rd subclasses. We're going to get all new ice powers!
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>>183900215
At least its not PS4 exclusive
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>>183900301

I would be willing to bet that will be the fourth class for everyone, most likely DLC.

Third class has tons of proof of being the traditional TTK classes.
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>>183900484
Yeah, that's the most likely scenario.
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>>183900339
>>183900296

The thing that gets me is isn't it usually "Preorder for EARLY ACCESS"?

Nearly all preorder bonuses, aside from the Gamestop Sparrow, were early access or immediate access.
>>
>pre-orders get coldheart for free
Yes goyim, pre-order our game! There's no reason not to now!
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>>183900043
>Trace Rifle
>constant beam

new weapon type or a sign that some exotics might be more exotic in nature?
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>>183900702
>he didn't preorder

Brainlet
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>>183900702
Meh I was gonna get the limited edition for all the physical shit anyway.
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>>183900753
I think it's the latter, but I'd be okay with more variants of the fusion rifle
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>>183900831
>>183900753

It depends.

In game, if its called a trace rifle, or a trace fusion rifle there might be more. But if its just called a fusion rifle, and its like that, maybe not. (much like how the sweet business is an auto rifle, which to me points to HMG's as a thing)
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>>183900043
Well then, looks like I'm making an Awoken titan.
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>>183900702
Why is preordering the game such a sore spot for some people? What are the negatives to preordering?
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>>183901312
I have no idea, especially after a free open beta.
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>>183901312

There is only one negative for preordering, and that's companies adding more and more exclusive content to preorders only.

Aside from that, it's totally fine. Pre-purchasing is trash though.
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>>183901312
I've heard the argument made that pre-ordering a game is basically the same as paying for your food before you get it. The restaurant's been paid already, so it has no incentive to bring you your food to the usual expected standard.
But that's just a thought.
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>>183901627
That's literally fast food though. These people are idiots.
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>>183897854
Why not just communicate with bob on transferring the name to him in exchange for moderator to save the trouble of everyone having to switch clans for a save of two extra letters
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>>183901627

Wut. Many places do that. Buffets, fast food, Hibatchis will do that, etc.
>>
Ice is such a stupid element and you're all stupid for wanting it and thinking it's actually going to be a thing. Clearly the pre-order exotic will do Arc damage.
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>>183901627
I don't get that argument, because at anytime the preorder could be cancelled. What's the difference between preordering a shit game and buying a shit game day of release?
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>>183900043
>mfw
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>>183901847
>>
https://youtu.be/g05Jgi1NMhI
Trace Rifle confirmed new weapon type
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>>183901847

If it's not a new element, than it's more likely to be element-less and just do a chilling/slow effect.
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>>183901861
Well, you could say that you're an idiot for knowingly pre-ordering a shit game, versus just being dumb for buying a shit game at release.
But the argument could also be made that after placer your order, you could just leave the restaurant.
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>>183902083
I'm wondering what the difference is between preordering destiny and just walking in and buying it after following the news train? You're not buying the game blind. That may be moving the goal posts, I'm not too sure.
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>>183902529
>>183902529
>>183902529
NEW THREAD
>>183902529
>>183902529
>>183902529
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>>183901312
you're literally giving them money in exchange for nothing
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>>183902439
You have a pre-conceived notion of the game when you choose to pre-order or not. That's the basis of your decision on the purchase. To me, the only difference between pre-ordering or not is a level of commitment and a certain amount of rose-tinted goggles.
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>>183903004

Uhhh, what? You are giving them money to get your game at (x) date, along with being able to preload it before launch.

For physical copies you are guaranteeing your copy in case it gets sold out.
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>>183903004
>He can't give the $5 minimum.
Sorry to hear about your financial troubles.
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>>183900568
>>183900043
Don't worry guys, at 25 seconds, it says at the bottom, "available through gameplay starting 12.5.17"
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>>183901780
And fast food is garbage most of the time lol
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>>183898386
>t. hasn't played warframe
Text chat is pure cancer, especially when you consider that half the people who play this game are likely to play or have played warframe. And everyone knows the warframe text chat is the cringefest of the century. But sure, text chat will make things better. Spam your dead memes all day with other shitters. That'll save D2
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