/poeg/ - Path of Exile general

>>183573096
Didn't come up with an original edition edition

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>>183337021
>Free
>>183337972
>FrEe
>>183361214
>free
>>183367319
>Free
>>183367427
>frEE
>>183403535
>FREE
>>183405368
>free
>>183410747
>free
>>183416331
>free
>>183514726
>free
>>183529235
>free
>>183531471
>Free

>>183573284
>Too many attempts
Oh well.

I don't feel like slogging through turmoil for a small chance at a set that I may not even want.

anyone else playing d3 waiting for the 4th? cuz i am and its just as boring as not playing it

no cuz d3 is fucking garbage

ur garbage
heh

How do I make the Soul Tether meme work?

>>183574846
>no damage
>no res
>es/life hybrid leech gimmick
>can't even use geofri's sanctuary with it
You don't.

>>183574424
I'd rather play D2 desu famalam.

>>183574424

Id rather play D2. Atleast it has Hero Editor, which makes the whole game much more pleasant than D3 or PoE.

Why is ggg so silent about balance in the beta.
If the game releases as is for 3.0 i'm not going to play for very long.

>>183576696
Last time they opened their mouth it was to say that they didn't know about the blatant balance issues on the beta and people realized they have no clue about what they're doing.

>>183576826
Can i get sauce on that, i missed it, was it recent ?
What the fuck do you mean they didnt know ? even the official forums are complaining about it and we're 7 weeks into the beta

>>183574846
Hybrid BM keystone berserkers wear this belt.

>>183576696
>>183576826

They dont play their own game, what do you expect.

Its like a big chef that does not cook food (other chefs do) - just orders everyone around, never tastes the food, and relies on feedback from a bunch of "gourmets", who have impaired or absent sensation of taste and smell.

>>183577035
remember the kitchen nightmares chef that didn't know what his food tasted like

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>>183576968
>>183576968
Well level 95 minmaxed poison builds are able to deal 1million dmg a second, ignite about 60k DPS and bleed 6k DPS. This is their DoT rebalance a.k.a. double dipping fix.

In GGG's latest official comment they noted that poison is still dealing too much damage and will look into it.

On the other end of build spectrum physical to elemental conversion crit attack builds are able to line up like 15 more multipliers reaching 5+million DPS without worry of reflect thanks to scion rework, sibyl's rework and new 20% reduced reflect pantheon.
Frostblades (best melee ability btw thanks to +21 weapon range out of GGG's ass only for this one melee skill) - Melee phys (MORE dmg) - EDA (old WED, MOREelemental dmg with attacks) - cold pen (MORE dmg) - multistrike (MORE dmg) - elefocus (MORE ele dmg)
More multipliers out of links:
-vaal lightnign trap (50% MORE)
-frost bomb (-20% cold resi) MORE DMG
-Wise oak flask (MORE pene MORE DMG)
-Atziri's promise flask (25% phys added as extra chaos, then again 15% of ele added as extra chaos = 40% MORE (more if flask nodes / pathfinder ascendancy)
-Taste of hate 30% of physical dmg added as extra cold (More dmg)
- ele penetration nodes in bottom right part of tree, primeval force, fangs of frost and forces of nature = 19% cold pene which translates to MORE dmg
- frenzy charges 4% MORE dmg for each + 5% increased attack speed

>>183577620
Penetration and "damage added as" stats are additive and subject to diminishing returns, they're not "MORE".

>>183577582

Yep, recalled it.

>>183577813
Actually Penetration is even better than %more multiplier until 0% Resist. After that's it's still literally another %more multiplier.

I'm planning to play a 100% phys dmg build in 3.0, fuck the "meta"

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on that note
i'd love for some videogames, yet there aren't any videogames to play
what happened to vidiogams ;c
no good diablo copies and if there are any they're made in 3d and not spriteart/claymation
destiny 2 coming out at some point, dont know if the netcode will be good for PC play, probably indistinguishable from the console versions.
where are all the good videogames.

+250 hp vs +2600 evasion? (ive no clue how evasion works)

ah well +2600 evasion gives you the large ehp value
so its the way to go

>>183577964
>0% mob resist
>got 20% fire pen from some OP unique
>fire penetration gem gives me 37% MORE damage because anon says so!
>it's actually 30% because anon doesn't know how diminishing returns work

>>183578315
What the fuck are you on about? All penetration from all sources are added together with no diminishing returns and there are no diminishing returns on more penetration. If you have 20% from a unique and 37% from a gem and the monster has 0% base resist, you're doing 57% more damage to it.

>>183578534
>all sources are added together
>a MORE multiplier

choose one

>>183577813
All penetration is additive with itself, but as whole it acts as a a very big more multiplier
"damage added as extra cold, fire, lightning" from items, auras and flasks are still affected by gem links (multiplier by WED, ele focus)

Bosses have 30% elemental resistances as baseline, so 10k DPS, no penetration is 7k effective DPS (but you know this because you're smart)
So going, for example, 100% pene takes bosses to -70% resi, which then makes your 10k tooltip 17k effective DPS. Basically stacking all possible penetration is beneficial, and getting past -54% res is bigger MORE multiplier for your damage than any support gem (conc 54% more, ele focus 49% more)

>>183578645
Yes. Your total pen is a more multiplier.

>>183578659
>All penetration is additive with itself, but as whole it acts as a a very big more multiplier
All "added damage as" is additive with itself, but as a whole it acts as a a very big more multiplier
All crit multiplier is additive with itself, but as a whole it acts as a a very big more multiplier
All increased damage is additive with itself, but as a whole it acts as a a very big more multiplier

>>183578830
Could you fucking retard just explain this post >>183578315 before we go over your other mental challenges.

How do you figure that 20%+37% penetration on 0% resist is only 30% more?

>>183579051
1.57 is 30% more than 1.2

fire penetration gem gave you 30% more damage instead of 37%

>>183579153
Alright. In that sense separate sources of penetrations aren't separate more multipliers, but your total penetration is a more multiplier. Crit Multi and "gain % as extra" are also more multiplier as far as this community is concerned.

>>183579483
>as far as this community is concerned

back to breaddit

>>183579540
>reddit spacing
>telling anyone to go back
makes you think

>>183578659
stacking ALL possible pen is a trap and you'll able to find it out in 5 minutes of toying around in poebuilder
more specifically, penetration gems are often not worth it over other support gems if you have significant pen from other sources

>>183579689
Because other gems can have higher values than pen gems 37%. Conc is +50%, Faster Attacks +40%, Crit multi +100%. Every % of pen is still % more total regardless how much you stack it.

>>183579957
you must be american, i don't believe any other person could have such a poor understanding of maths

>>183580101
you must be autistic, taking every word literally by definition and not by context.

>>183580251
whatever, i only tried to help
not my fault you're too retarded to understand the difference between addition and multiplication

So I'm making a Raider RT Sunder build with 90% Phys to Cold conversion. The DPS is at 300k+(vs Shaper) fully buffed, which makes me a bit worried about reflect. To combat this I'm planning on using a Sibyls, picking up Primeval Force and using Taste of Hate as one of my flasks, but is it enough?

>>183580621
No, you tried to be snarky over internet, because you have autism. I do know how the damage is calculated in this game. You have a trouble understanding that when people say 'more' or 'more multiplier' they don't always mean more multipliers that are multiplicative.

>>183577620
i dont think you know what a more multiplier is my dude

Just lost a level 95 decked out HC character in uber lab because of multiple desync while running through traps. Dragged back to spikes 3 times in a row after being rooms ahead. I can barely breath.

I'm seething with rage. Fuck this company. They will never get a dime from me as long as this bullshit exists. If I'm not standing on a trap when it activates, then it should not fucking damage me, period. Much less drag me back hundreds of feet away and pin me in place.

Fuck me right? I should have logged out right there, since logging out is part of the game and all. These fucking niggers. These absolute buffoons.

>>183581197
git gud

I just lost 10% exp to a disconnect
damn this game sucks
fuck chris

>>183580858
when is 'more' not a multiplier

>>183581197

Dont play HC then.

>>183581197
get fucked lmao
PoE is a skill based game and HC is for elite individuals only
if you werent trash you wouldnt have died as lab is an engaging piece of OPTIONAL content
You signed up for it and you paid the price by being careless

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When the fuck are we getting more mine related shit? Pic related is best in slot for 90% of mine builds, its better than the fucking saboteur tree.

I want some trap/mine mods Chris you fucking kike.

AN EMPEROR MUST KNOW PRECISELY WHERE HE STANDS

>>183582263
this
Im making a fireball miner for 3.0 and the lack of mine-related uniques is truly retarded

>>183582263
>G'day moites, mines aren't clunky at all y'see?
>leaves out the part where all mine builds are identical
>proceeds to use detonate mines on a totem to not actually play mines
You know that listening to ZiggyDiggy is bad for your overall understanding and enjoyment of the game, right?

>>183581197
HC only has 6 ascen. points.
Repeat after me.

>>183578284
Tell that again once you get phy spelled to death, or get cucked by ground shit, or eat some degen, or pratically anything that isn't an attack and that you'll eat 100% on your 1k life 10million evasion build

I tried so hard but

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVTXPUF4Oz4

>>183581197
>You've chosen turdcore, we cannot guaranteed you anything. You're willingly eating turds. Are you sure?
>[x]

>cry like a bitch and blame the company when you die

>>183581197
>Uber lab
>HC
No such thing.

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What the FUCK do I do until 4th of August?

>>183585084
Guy should've allowed his wisdom to be tempered by the flames of the past.

>>183585298
play corruption of champions, battlerite and lilith's throne exclusively

what will be the top 5 most meta builds for 3.0?

>>183586296
Are you just too poor to play a game that costs money or?

>>183587446
name a single game that costs money that is worth playing right now

>>183587421
Five variations of MoM builds.

>>183587421
Sunder
Frost blades
Scorching ray
Charged dash
Storm burst

>>183587446
thought so

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Worry... not...
Your... Ruler... is... here...

Where can I get a basic gestalt on all the important changes to existing abilities in 3.0?

In the future probably 1 day before the release.

>poe database /us/gem.php?n=WIP
>thrown_shield_num_additional_projectiles [3]
We Captain America now?

It's going to have a stun effect and look like complete shit, until people find out a way to completely stunlock bosses with it and then GGG actually nerfs it to completely useless. I'm from the future.

>>183589387
It's a console-friendly shield charge variation.

it's already possible to stunlock bosses with heavy strike

Its possible to stunlock bosses with sunder
But then again what cant sunder do these days

>>183591454
All 2.6 bosses yes
In 3.0 probably not

can't believe Chester killed himself before 3.0
depression is some dark shit

>>183593217
only betas and autists suffer from depression
he deserved it desu

>>183592562
stunlocking in 3.0 is easier thanks to ruthless gem

>>183593330
He had 6 kids and literally lived the life of a rockstar.

>>183593492
But then killed himself due to Trump winning the elections.

>>183593865
In the end, it doesn't even matter.

How resilient are totems in the endgame? Should i bother with totem life/resist passives? I've never played a totem build up to that point so i don't know if the totems would just melt instantly as i placed them.

>>183594203
High level totems hold up good but if you try going from selfcast to totem with a level 11 gem you just got from Nessa you'll be unhappy.
Level that shit in your weapon swap from the second you can get it.

What's an okay build for someone just starting with this game? I know enough that starting on a build early on is a necessity and you can easily fuck yourself over later on otherwise.

>>183596779
Sunder gladiator is incredibly hard to fuck up.

>>183596779
Flame totems are pretty braindead and do reasonable damage even if it's about as fun as watching mobs die.

>>183587636
no one wants to play old busted skills
Prepare for new skill reveal, a new fire channeled spell called Incineration Ray.

>>183596031
>get banned if you zoom out past the allowed limit
>this is somehow ok

>>183600004
Do you mean Burning Beam?

>>183600250
No I mean Hot Sticky Rope

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how many good mods should you craft for on a diviner's strongbox?

>>183600390
Burning Sensation?

>>183600495
Come on my man, just alch the shit and click on it, life is too short

>implying it wont be cold channeled skill that works like a fire skill
it will be called frostburn

>>183600869
Nah phys dude total curve ball.
Razorburn.

Colds never getting another skill.
NEVER.

>>183600869
let it just apply some -cold res and some cold degen when cold damage on chilled enemies, and Whispering Ice will be born again without the shitty fire conversion.

>>183600495
just looking at that makes me wanna play a better game that didn't have subsidiaries for basic fucking drops

>>183600869
Nah it'll be avalanche
Works like firestorm and has a stacking more damage buff based on how many avalanches you have going up to like 6 stacks

>>183601353
Cards don't bother me. I NEVER make plans on using them (with a few exceptions), I ignore half of them and the other half just list them and sell them to people who want to grind out that stupid shit.

Might as well make some Alch and Chaos off of other people's willingness to deal with that horseshit

>>183602274
Yeah sell stuff you can't use personally for chaos obv but I did note that coruscating is like 20c on beta and the cards are 12c combined

Jogs ur noggin.

>>183600845
>life is too short
which is exactly why i want to maximize the value of the most valuable strongbox in the game so i don't have to grind as much for currency later

>contains fragments of garbage
>more valuable than whole pieces of garbage
?

if cards were removed
nothing would change

if speedshitters were removed
everything would change

this game was unironically better 4 years ago

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>>183603732
>>183600495
oh hey i found another one

How do we get more cute girls to play this game?

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girls are inherently normie and poe is an intrinsically abnormie game
so no, cute girls will never play this game

>>183605248
It really wasn't though, if we allow ourself one moment of honest honesty

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>>183605867
You're not allowed to like current year PoE in /poeg/.

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>>183606386

this game is unironically better than 4 years ago

>trade is still shit
>balance is still shit
>meta is still shit
>performance is still shit
>stability is still shit

unless you like the meme clearspeed meta the game is objectively worse than it was four years ago

>>183607049
Why are you still here then?

even if all those things are all still shit the fact that the game expanded and added new content means it was better than before

Whats the bleed keystone exactly meant to do

>>183607428
Jack shit

"your bleeds can now stack up to 300 times, 80% less bleed damage"
original design, donut steel

>>183607049
all those issues except trade are resolved in 3.0 though, at least as far as I'm concerned

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The game currently has two major problems:
Playerbase is shitty
GGG cant let go of their "droprate around trade"
The problem is the interaction between both, when we get good challenging content, GGG gives us shitty drops (lel holy shit why is Abaxoth dropping literal crap?) and shitty playerbase whines for nerfs all the fucking time.
the only actual nerfs that were justified were both malachai and original invasion, and at least for invaders, they were ridiculously overnerfed, all because GGG cant fucking give decent loot for moderately challenging content and babies want to press X to win.
This is PoE biggest problem and one I do not see them correcting anytime soon, if ever.
We need a new ARPG to serve as a threat, or (I hope not) a replacement.
Its just getting ridiculous how hard it is to get unique drops, one would think that with more uniques available, they would up the droprates a lot, but nah, enjoy getting your first unique in merc (act 8 by now I think) and it being a shitty item that you could have used 30 lvls ago, MAYBE if you were using a different build
So yeah, I hope it changes, but currently the game has great theorycrafting and new shit coming out, but is unrewarding in difficulty and, well, rewards. You can keep players entertained, but its sad, they could do so much better

>>183607049
>>trade is still shit
PoE's trade system isn't even that bad all things considered.
Many games have no in-game way of listing things for sale, have no established trading etiquette, and have a bunch of restrictions on what can and can't be traded.

frog picture = post discarded

>>183607521
Your bleed damage can poison

>>183608650
degens can't inflict degens, the math doesn't make sense

>>183608250
something to note that I forget, I really really hate how in PoE farming bosses seems to be a waste of time before maps.
I did countless andariel bosskills in Diablo 2 and I didnt expect to get good shit everytime, but I know that if I did enough I could eventually get something.
Also unique monsters (non-act bosses) are even worse here than in D2. They might as well not exist, droprate-wise. I know I tested doing fuckloads of runs and it was barely noticeable from a rare.
In d2 I enjoyed farming a lot of different unique monsters (most famous probably pindle and countess) but here they are skip-worthy, wastes of time, especially that one golem in act 2

>>183608948
we have boss farming in poe, they're called izaro, atziri, pale council, breachlords, guardians, shaper and so on

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>>183606386

POE needs really hard maps with pre-determined layouts/mobs

These maps would be the true tests of builds

How the fuck is endgame leveling supposed to work?
I only get t9 maps at best. I got a t11 map once, corrupted it and it got elemental and physical reflect.
Fuck those two in particular.
Anyway, without higher map drops I can't level efficiently. But maybe that's just because I'm new and don't know how to farm maps efficiently.
And then there's the fact that I sometimes just get oneshotted by I don't fucking know because there's no combatlog and lose an hour of playing time, without getting any better at the game.
What I'm trying to say is, why the fuck is there no combatlog?

>>183609123
that's a different kind of boss farming and you know it m8, they have specific drops. that's akin to UBER tristram and Uber diablo (and the keydropper bosses if you wish to count them)

>>183609261
if youre doing T9 maps it takes you about 3 minutes to get the xp from dying back
You get t11+ maps to consistently drop by doing t11+ maps with a 100+ atlas which is quite easy to get as you can just buy maps off PoE trade and complete them for atlas progression

>>183609261
>get a t11 map for the first time
>corrupt and risk bricking it instead of just running it to try and get map drops and add a t11 map to your drop table
you fucking retard
you aren't allowed to complain about not having high tier maps when you make stupid mistakes like that

>>183609261
poe.trade

guys i don't know what to play for 3.0 release

frost blades? srs? new skill? I can't choose, whats everybody else gonna do?

>>183609227
you mean unique maps?

>>183609916
the existing ones are all terrible

>>183609875
most people wait for patch notes to see if ggg do some weird balance change that totally breaks some ability. we also want details on what the league will be to see if some builds will work better with the league mechanics.

if nothing else changes i'm probably going to go tornado shot

>>183609438
>>183609774
>>183609797
>What I'm trying to say is, why the fuck is there no combatlog?

>>183609965
>moving the goalposts

>>183610139
because GGG are lazy hacks who prefer making new mtx systems for them shekels

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>>183608948
>>183608250
i agree and i think the big underlying issue is that literally everything GGG does is motivated by profit. they don't care about their integrity as a company or the health of the game, all they want is to make more money, and that's hurt the game and the community a lot over the years. i really don't think GGG can turn things around at this point. it's too late
i just hope a successor/competitor comes soon because i'm fucking sick to death of GGG's bullshit and how uninspired and fucking BORING path of exile is

>>183610256
goalposts are directly up ur ass

>>183609875
I'm gonna do BoR Blockiator Sunder, like I've done for the past 3 leagues and past 3 major updates. People call it a noob build but I've learned to shut out the dumbasses on this general ever since I've started taking it through Uber lab, Uber Atziri, and Shaper with faceroll ease.

>>183610365
depends on how it evolves, but people say that Wolcen is worth keeping an eye on, at least

>>183609373
I would rather run 5000 strands than 50 pindleskins, boss farming in d2 got old fast but to each their own

GUYS STOOOOOOOOOOOOOP BEING MEAN TO GGG
WHO CARES IF 3.0 IS A PILE OF TRASH WITH NO CONTENT
WE ARE GETTING A NEW MICROTRANSACTION SYSTEM
ITS FUCKING AMAZING
WE CAN BUY MORE STASH TABS AND 500 DOLLAR SUPPORTER PACKS NOW
FUCK HATERS AND FUCK CONTENT

>>183608948
>I did countless andariel bosskills in Diablo 2
Who the fuck ever did this?

I'm literally sick of this game but I'll keep playing it for 5 years lol

>>183610918
hey, I dont mean to resume shit to that. I just want possibility, why not both?

and ofc pindle was just an example, even that skeleton in act 1 cahtedral was a target for how far he could drop, here no one is caring about any unique mob other than bosses with restricted drops.

>>183610985
anyone that wanted some equipment early (usually sigons) or most notable SoJs
Hell, what the fuck are you even talking about who did this when bugging andariel to always give Firstkill drops was one of the most famous things

>>183611198
lol

Whats the best type of one handed weapon for an ancestral warchief build?

>>183611781
a rare with shittons of dps

>>183611781
varunastra

>>183611781
Facebreaker

tfw Krippi will never come back

>>183612456

good taste anon, krippi was far superior

i never cared for streamers but reading what kripp did to krippi did make me feel bad for him. they should make an HBO series about it

>>183612456
>>183612527
tfw PT will never come back

>>183611445
Interesting. I actually stopped playing around 2004 and got into WC3 (and DotA) so I had no idea this was a thing.

https://www.youtube
.com/watch?v=dNXQE1ZXFyw

based FUCKING
porcies

>>183613172
t. chaos/minion/totem user

>>183613172
>Its a CI ES nigger
deserved it desu

>>183613172
>Getting that close to a porcupine pack
Literally fucking retarded. I bet he blamed his aurabot fuckbuddy for being away from him too.

How do i deal with the lack of accuracy in the right side of the tree if im not going RT?

>>183615030
You dont get accuracy
You just dont and hope for the best, even without getting accuracy your hit chance should be around 86% which is good enough
t. cyclone player

>>183615030
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Lycosidae

>>183615030
>Right
I meant left
>>183615164
>>183615203
Thanks.

>>183615297
>>183615030
uninstalling

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>still no 3.0
>even when 3.0 lab still wont be gud
>zana

zana is not a slut

>>183616194
i want this zana to put her "maps" in my face

In PoE 4.0 they reveal that your exile's and Zana's babies turn out to be dimension-hopping demigods and are actually the beyond demons.

>>183612871
aight dog. understandable then.
Something to note, if I remember correctly, firstkill Nightmare Andariel had the best droprate in the game for Stone of Jordan (though a lot ended up doing hell one instead for higher lvl loot)

why do you talk like a black person
why would a black person come to this racist place

>>183620178
nobody cares whether hes a nigger, nigger

Personally I don't break bread with coloreds.

watching too much black supremacists memes, I apologize FOR NOTHING

Haven't been keeping up with the Fall of Oriath infos. Was a little surprised when I heard it would release on August 4th.

What will happen to the Lab and the Ascendancy points? Please tell me they got rid of the Trials and you'll only have to do 1x Lab and 1x Uber.

there are less trials in "cruel" and "merciless"
Same amount of normal trials and uber trials
still gotta do lab 4x

Aspirant plaza is accessible from waypoint and shows what trials you're missing. You still need to do most trials but a bit less than you used to. First 2 labs are shorter. Uber is the same.

>millenials can't even reach endgame without their lab crutch points

>templar
>looks shit with mtx armor
Why is this?

>>183622251
^^

>>183622120
>>183622181
>trials are still a thing
WHY
what a fucking retarded decision.
do the people at GGG really think that there's anyone out there playing PoE not going "jeez, not this shit again" every time a new league starts?

>>183623636
Threadly reminder that lab is an optional piece of content and you can ignore it completely if you dont want to do it

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>there are people in this thread who are paying to beta test the games i play for free

Should i avoid doing certain portions of the atlas so i won't add garbage layouts to my map drop pool? Im not sure i understand how drops work when it comes to atlas completion.

>>183626805
nobody on the beta actually tests anything
they pay so they can fuck around with no content while GGG count their shekels

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FUCK tormented spirits

>>183628447
The game determines that a map has dropped, the tier is rolled, and then a map is chosen from the map creator's eligible pool. Both adjacent maps and completed maps are in that pool. Completed meaning that the map boss has been killed and it's visible on the atlas, not that the 1% atlas bonus has been unlocked.

>>183631682
So just have to stay the fuck away from maps i don't ever want to see?

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shitcrows are not allowed here anymore

>there are people in this thread who are doing what they damn want with their money without asking my permission and this makes me REEEEEEEEE because it is unacceptable STOP GIVING THEM MONEY and I just can't deal with it so I'll just post and post about it like if I were a 12yo retard and o wait that's my actual age and medical condition

>this mad about being duped to work for a chink company for free

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>Scion's new hierophant node is better than the hierophant ascendancy
lol

>>183633727
Thats sad
But then again what do we even expect from GGG balance anymore

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>Coward's Trial
>Coward's Trial with Beyond enabled
>Coward's Trial with Beyond enabled spawning Bameth
>Coward's Trial with Beyond enabled spawning Bameth in a small space with hundreds of corpses around
This is why I play shitcore.

>>183623831
>Threadly reminder that lab is an optional piece of content and you can ignore it completely if you dont want to do it
top lel

>>183633727
but why would your main skill be cast from your helm?

>>183634326
>he doesnt play exclusively kitavas thirst builds
>/out/

>>183609875
charged dash raider with dual hyaon's fury + QotF

>>183634326
BoR builds, essence-crafted helm builds, etc

>>183634326
It doesn't need to be your main skill, but if you wanted it to be you could throw some attack totem in a BoR.

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The first step in a dream takes you further than a thousand in this world.

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>>183634474
you dont need your skill socketed in kitavas for the proc to work, crow

>>183633727
Hierophant is the strongest class in 3.0 for a couple reasons none of which scion has. Lmao at your tiny shitcrow brain.

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>>183635816
>Hierophant is the strongest class in 3.0

>>183636093
Wait and see I suppose..

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>>183636278
Post that build, if you're so sure.

>>183636093
cat picture = post discarded

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i discarded youre life long ago

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Daily reminder..

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Why is Cooterz our girl

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>girl

>>183637391
Update this image with 3.0's new globe girls.

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>>183637967
How did I do, daddy?

solaris > lunaris

>>183638805
Good taste my man, that belly is truly divine.

>>183637929
>yfw when she's actually a girl and not trans

and the difference between those is?

Taryns shiver and ice nova, Doedre's Scorn helm with 3 curses. Occulist. Get ready

>Still no news
Why tho.
>>183640714
Vulnerability, Frostbite, and Elemental Weakness I'm guessing?
Also I'd consider something with a Curse on Hit setup as Inquisitor plus whatever the new Ice Skill is.

>>183640714
sounds like shit

>Just found out Soul Mantle 3D Art in 3.0
Fuck yes.

>>183640157
who are you responding to dude? i cant tell

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is PoE worth getting into right now, or should I wait for 3.0 to hit in a couple of weeks?

>>183641659
If you don't try it now, you're going to be lost very fast.

>>183641659
Wait for 3.0. Current leagues are about to die and you have to be retarded to play in standard.

dont bother at all is the best option

>>183641659
if you have played be4 you should wait

If you haven't then you should play now to learn how shit works

>>183641659
they are also improving the tutorial in 3.0.0

so just in case you are retarded, wait

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>>183641516
i meant that trans women and women are all women, literally the same thing

>>183641174
New ice skill? Is this confirmed?

Is there a way in PoB to turn onslaught on for one tree but not for another so they can be compared ?

>>183643189
trans women have penises and real women dont

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Why aren't you playing her game, /poeg/? Its free

>>183644810
1. Don't know what game.
2. If it's Gigantic, I'm now downloading another fucking separate platform for (1) game.

>>183645137
>now
Not. Fuck.

>>183644810
fuck off shill

>>183638462
Why is the new one so ugly? They doesn't have the bondage and acceptance look of the old one

>>183645464
>implying that a company that literally went bankrupt during development and fired every single employee has enough money to hire shills

http://www.pcgamer.com/the-sacrifice-gigantics-team-made-to-save-it-from-development-hell/?utm_content=bufferd298a&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=buffer-pcgamertw

>>183645664
you'd be surprised
even GGG hires shills
a few of them post in /poeg/

I mainly play casters, but I'm very bored of the game because most builds I make fail. What's a fun melee build to try out

>>183647207
hevy strike

>>183585298
The translation's wrong.

sunder XD

Berserker or Slayer for Oro Flicker? Slayer is tradition for 2hander but Zerker has VP. I am torn. Or Slayer with VP?

>>183573096
Hey /poeg/, quick question about the next expansion to see if I should bother coming back:
Did they (the devs) say anything about incorporating poe.trade into the game?

>>183648701
No, nothing.

>>183649141
Alright then. Thank you.

>>183623831
Threadly reminder that Hillock is an optional piece of content and you can ignore him completely if you don't want to kill him

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>>183649370
You're wasting your time.

>>183647947
You aren't taking flicker to high end maps no matter what you do, even with VP, and no 7l'd Flicker means its damage is just complete ass

>>183649805
You're the one wasting time here bucko.

>>183649985
I am not aiming for Reflect map, Shaper or Atziri. Just red map in general, maybe Guardian. I clear red map up to t13 with a very bad lacerate 2hander build so I thought Flicker would do fine

>>183649141
no and if they do change anything about trade it won't be announced until a day before the expansion is released

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dmQ3QWpy1Q
this is how I feel about poe rn...

>>183652786
dont kill urself just cuz Trump is pres
he's gonna maga

>>183653912
He actually killed himself because of Trump?

>No news post yet
First missed one in weeks.

>>183654003
well on top of all his normal mental illnesses that turned him into a liberal

https://clips.twitch
.tv/BelovedEvilZebraRickroll

S A V A G E

>>183654003
Everyone who is angry about Trump killed themselves for some reason

>>183654275
meanwhile he's grinding dried lake on a CI build

150-200% inc life seems to be about fine for mid to high tier maps (not endgame), but how much dps should you aim for?

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only hc shitlord ableists would vote for drumpf

>>183653912
>muh Trump
no one cares about your clown ass president or your clown ass politics, retard

>>183654291
if only

>>183654447
Depends, how much Reflect Reduction and/or Vaal Pact?

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>Muh turn

>>183655186
Was thinking either slayer/50% or VP glad.

>>183655397
>Slayer 50%
Whatever's fine.
>VP Gladiator
Whatever's fine.

>less than 12 days left

>>183655601
Hm I was more thinking in terms of what levels of dps are acceptable for red map clearing.

I have no desire whatsoever to slog through GGG's manifestos to find out, so I'm just gonna ask here and hope for an answer. Are they finally getting rid of Normal->Cruel->Merciless and just make it one difficulty now that they're adding more arcs? I may want to come back into the game for a bit, but the idea that I have to rush through the same content 3 different times make me vomit.

that's literally the biggest selling point of 3.0 you moron, the removal of cruel and merciless and consolidation of 3x4 acts into a continuity of 10 GOD you're stupid

>Double dipping the map
>Literally run through the same map twice with minimal background and creep change
>Look guys, we are doing 6 NEW acts
3.0 is DOA

>>183656259
I asked because I heard they were doing something different with the difficulties but like I said I had no desire to read through patch notes and announcements I wouldn't care for, had they not fixed it. Thanks I guess.

>>183656417
double dipping was removed retard

>>183641659
Play. GGG is retarded when it comes to balancing, and you'll probably want to delete your first character either way, so it serves both purposes to start now.

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>Just started playing recently
>Skill called Arctic Breath
>A flying fucking skull that leaves paths of ice and explodes violently
>Holy fuck
>It's so METAL
>Can't wait to make a build with-

>It's shit

>>183656417
>Normal expansion
>1 more act
>some skills
>some balance changes
>poeg reaction: 8/10 bredy gud

>3.0
>1 more act
>possibly one more act, depending on if 10 is completely original or just a rehash of 5
>4 somewhat tweaked acts in favor of repeating literally the same acts in cruel and merc
>new skill
>some balance changes
>poeg reaction: 0/10 worst game

You're getting more content than every before, stop complaining.

>>183657139
>Destroy 90% of the fun build
>Only leave the top tier currency sink build that cost 10+ mirror
>Add some garbage supp and new skill
>Strong arm every build into a single mode of defense and gut any other alternative
Look guys, diversity and contetnt

>>183657062
It's great as a socket in Cast When Damage Taken.

>>183657062
Arctic Breath is a skill that GGG just forgot exists entirely. They created it, made it something that the leapfrog niggers spam and then never ever touched it again.

just started playing so my opinion on this skill is absolute because I've got 20 hours of experience haha

you would have to be genuinely deluded to think arctic breath is actually good, i would be more worried if he DIDNT realize how fucking trash it was, regardless of time played

>>183657062
It's good on CwDT.

>>183657139
There's a whole lot more to a game than "content" Which hasn't even been defined. What you call "content" is very possible to be different than the next's definition of "content"

>>183657390
first point is purely objective, i enjoy lacerate slayer for example and it wasn't touched at all

now the next point is pure misleading bullshit. the entire difficulty curve of the game got out of control. everything "meta" is being brought down to a lower level because you could invalidate every challenge in the game pretty trivially. 30 seconds strands should simply be impossible unless you risk ripping every 60 seconds. This is a very necessary anti-power creep patch and i'm more than for it.

next point, agreed some supports are kind of weird, but who knows, maybe it'll get tweaked in the future. there are already a bunch of weak supports and skills in the game and i don't see people rallying for their remuval (lul EH)

your last point is total bullshit again, just because they brought down CI to the level of life builds doesn't mean CI is now bad. You can STILL get a bigger buffer on CI than on any life build and you're STILL chaos immune, what you can't do anymore is facetank fucking shaper beam like a fucking shitter and get away with it. That's just objectively good. CI is more niche now which is a good thing. Before this patch, literally every build was just better as CI to the point where making any life build was just met with >LUL LIFE BUILD 2k17. fuck you

>>183658379
it's not even an opinion, we expected 1 act, nothing more. I bet if it was JUST act 5 and nothing else, people would be praising GGG like crazy.

Instead you entitled shitters are like WHAT THEY MADE EVEN MORE? I WON'T STAND FOR THIS. You're mad that we're getting 2 actual acts and 4 rehashes, which is actually perfectly fine because it's about 2.5 times more content than everybody was expecting.

>>183658454
Not the anon you've replied to, however, I more-or-less agree with you on the first three. The fourth however, I'd like to add that VP should be deleted entirely and insta-leech should only be possible for niche and rare purposes such as Acuity (crit-only)

Not only does insta-leech no longer work for ES, all of the nodes behind CI are gone too. I've never cared for CI, but you have to question why you would bother going CI now. LL has more-or-less still been the same (RF, summoner, support) but life will be king for sure.

preach it brother

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3.0 IS ONE WEEK AWAY
SABOTEUR IS STILL NOT BUFFED

HOW THE FUCK IS THIS POSSIBLE? FUCK YOU GGG YOU FUCKING FRAUDS. SAB HAS BEEN SHIT TIER SINCE IT WAS FIRST INTRODUCED TO THE GAME, YET YOU REFUSE TO BUFF IT

>>183658613
Again, there's a whole lot more than "more acts" and you seem to be missing their point. Yes, more acts is nice and removing the difficulties is great (albeit, lots of reused assets and corners cut)

I'm not on either side here, just pointing some things out.

>why you would bother going CI now
12k ES vs 7k life. you have to question why do absolute fucking 1 iq mouthbreathing ameba retards keep falling for the "ci is gutted" meme.

the rpoblem isn't sab it's that you can't get enough life as a shadow or ranger

>>183658837
> in 3.0 CI always has at least 12k ES and life has 7k life at most
Sadly I think you're being genuine. Baffles me how dumb some people who post are.

CI VP is gone
CI GR is underwhelming

12k buffer is shit unless you play a pussy ass build like summoner or totems in the first place and if you do have leech well GR makes it less effective

>>183658837
Because 12k CI gear will be 20 mirrors now, and it used to be 150c.

>>183658454
>This is a very necessary anti-power creep patch and i'm more than for it.
You should never be balancing the entire game around your top 0.001% of players that play the game for 23.5 hours a day.
That just leads to the vast majority of players getting the short end of the stick.

>>183658929
if you can get to 7k life, you can get to 15k chaos with the same gear

>>183659323
>9
The 99.998% players will not notice those nerfs at all. They only really kick in past 90 and affect things most normal players don't care about.

>>183659443
Sorry meant currency.

>34 minutes after the hour
>THIS late
What the fuck.
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1926159

>>183659505
Every player that used ES will notice it, because they've been downgraded from 8k ES to 3k. Their characters will have been made unplayably bad because of GGG balancing around the highest tier of players.

>>183659798
>Doesn't work with CWDT because it's just removing Life
>Lol, hybrid minion bullshit
>1 of them doesn't even clear random white trash mobs in their preview
Blight 2.0.

>>183660032
>8k ES to 3k.
This is literally a lie unless you use a tier 1 rolled chest worth several dozen exalts and literal garbage in every other slot.

8K es will go down to like 7.7k

>>183660107
>8K es will go down to like 7.7k
The loss of the 15% more node alone will take it down to 7k. And that's if we're allowing the player to keep using existing gear, i.e. only standard league. If not then worse base values + worse rolls mean it would go down to probably 6k if not worse.

>>183660107
>all ES items get hit with a massive nerf
>B-BUT YOU WON'T BE AFFECTED AT ALL UNLESS YOU'RE A TOP TIER PLAYER ALREADY
Oh fuck off. It's literally impossible to only lose 300 ES with the nerfs on everything.

So take other nodes you retard. CI was already able to take 3 times more damage nodes than life was. Now you only take twice as much.

>>183660285
this

just take more CI nodes to compensate

there is a TON that current CI builds just ignore, including the ES equivalent of the scion life cluster, at most people get the significant in there and that's it.

Dark Pact.
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1926159

>get less damage nodes
>When boss HP is getting buffed out the ass

>CI takes 3x more (400%) damage than life
>Meanwhile CI has been gutted
>Meanwhile ES can't instant leech
>Meanwhile ES on gear is getting nerfed across the board
>Meanwhile jewellery % ES is getting removed
mhm yes ci can take 4x as much damage as life in 3.0, remember, poetards! how dare you question mighty chris' balance?

>>183660525
welcome to all the other builds, it's cozy down here

>>183660378
That's interesting

>>183660378
Maybe my dream of rolling a blood magic life stacking auraless hyper regen guy can finally come true while also being effective

>normally just a shitcrow
>decide to try this race SSFHC today
>only just hit act3 normal and losing my nerve

>Path to anything but scion life wheel
>LMAO +150% LIFE BY LEVEL 90 ENJOY GETTING 1 SHOT XD XD XD XD
>Path to Scion life wheel
>My build gets fucked because I miss out of a bunch of nodes I needed
>No changes to skill tree for 3.0 because "changing le skill tree is le bad because people have to re allocate their le points ;)"

>>183657062
>he doesn't know

>>183661470
do the respec quests and have like 20+ respec points, retard. or, use regret orbs, they're mega cheap.

>>183660378
based GGG has done it again

>>183661806
I don't think that's what hes complaining about.

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>>183661470
The tree poses some serious problems currently.
Red: Life clusters
Blue: ES clusters
(Not counting pathing nodes like the starts of various classes)
Notice the distribution of Life Nodes compared to ES. This is 3.0 which is slightly different from live, but it still gets the point across. If you go ES-based, you either have to start in the upper part of the Tree or waste a ton of nodes getting there. A ton of nodes that could be spent on damage.
Whereas you can go anywhere and get some life. What this visual doesn't take into account however is the concentration of power in those Nodes.
>ES-based builds get additional % ES from having large amounts of Intelligence
>Life-based builds get additional Flat Life from any Strength nodes they have (which might not be a lot because they aren't in the Strength zone of the tree getting a ton of it just from pathing
>Life Nodes range from 3 to 6% Increased (Notables from 5 to 14%)
>ES Nodes range from 5 to 8% Increased (Notables from 10 to 20%)
>ES builds rely almost exclusively on getting Flat ES from gear
>Life builds rely primarily on getting Flat Life from gear
>ES builds get considerably more ES on their gear than Life gets Life (even post-3.0)
>Also barely bat an eye at getting a decent amount of Increased ES% with their bonuses from Int and Tree (unless they're going way out of their way to get to the only space on the tree with ES nodes)
>And then spend the rest on Damage since their defenses are covered
>Whereas a Life build outright has to path to at least 3 areas of the Tree and get multiple Jewel Sockets just to get by
And even then, with a lower effective health pool for the same investment
>And less damage overall
These issues overall stem from multiple overlapping problems.
>YOU CAN DO ANYTHING AS ANY CHARACTER
A general idea they threw out the window with Ascendancy classes.
A general idea that gimps each character's tree portion solely so any other class can "Use" it.
1/2

>>183663090
>Int characters can rely solely on ES as their primary defense mechanism (And Int directly boosts this)
>While Strength characters rely on Life (Which their stats boost, albeit poorly) and Armor (which is overall ass due to natural armor penetration of Phys attacks and spells)
>While Dex characters rely on Life (Which their primary stat does not boost) and Evasion, which is liable to get them killed because chance-based defenses that are guaranteed to fail after a while AND only apply to Attacks
I'm sure there's other glaring issues that lead to this problem, but those are the big two:
>Unified Passive tree
>Asynchronous (and objectively imbalanced) base stats

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>>183663090
>Right side of the tree has god awful life viability, in both strength of the nodes themselves and how many nodes there are
>Right side of the tree does NOT gain nearly as much +life from STR as left
>Right side of the tree involves a seemingly forgotten form of damage mitigation that leaves you incredibly vulnerable to physical spells and is basically a gimped form of blocking which the left side of the tree STILL has access to in droves
>Even with all its good node clusters and overall better strength of life nodes, left side tree builds need to grab a massive point sink in the form of the life wheel or risk never going over 200% life and being one shot by some great game mechanics

>>183662040
After rereading it, seems you are correct. I feel sympathetic for >>183661470

>tfw in the end you're the retard

I do feel as if the whole "changing le skill tree is le bad because people have to re allocate their le points ;)" is a cop-out on GGG's behalf. Like, fuck off, people (at least the good players, streamers etc) enjoyed the new trees.

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>>183663090
I skilled every ES node, nothing from ascendancies, here is the result:

life next.

>>183663489
Remember to skip Blood Magic's notable or include an alternate shot with it.

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>>183663489
This is every life node on the tree, this does NOT include the nodes behind blood magic and does not include any ascendancy.

It should be noted however that the ES nodes are significantly more dense, I will post next the smallest possible skilltree for both.

>>183663489
This doesn't include any bonus ES% from Intelligence, which on a decent tree is pretty substantial at a rate of 5:1%.

lol @ reddits who think they have any clue of how to build a end game viable build just because they highlight life and es clusters on the tree

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>>183663664
You can theoretically achieve this tree at level 54, enough points left for lots of damage nodes.

Life tree is next.

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It's funny because even if you don't get oneshot you will still never survive the multitude of damage bursts the game throws at you without either slayer leech, RF levels of regen or vaal pact. That is including your capped resistances and numerous layered defenses. You'll run out of life flask charges (LMAO) halfway through the boss fight or particularly rippy pack of bloodline blues without retarded.

It's a dead end at this point. VP is mandatory and they've done nothing but balance around it. Nerfing it would mean you have to go back and re-balance everything or the game is fucked. The gap is fucking ridiculous. Take any mediocre evasion based build, remove the leech and you won't even be able to fight uber izaro without your flask charges running out halfway into the fight because the cunt of justice decided to clip you with a single projectile.

>>183663931
>without retarded.

without retarded leech*

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>>183663872
So obviously this tree is impossible, let's now try to build the maximum amount of increased life with just the points for the ES tree.

>>183663872
Not included in that % is the 108% Inc. ES from the allocated Int nodes.
>>183664103
This is gonna be good.

>>183663747
Also STR gives flat life.

>>183664192
At a rate of 2:1 Flat. The issue there is in the disparity between Life and ES gear.
>A good ES chest can have 500+ ES easily post-Nerf
>A good Rare Life chest can have 130 Life
The 2:1 rate of Strength to Flat Life, even on a heavily focused Strength build doesn't make up that gap in the slightest

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>>183664103
Okay first, because it's easier to do. This is how many points you have to allocate for 328% increased life, the same amount of increase for ES you get from the 76 point tree above. This makes the average ES node 30.909090909% and so on more dense than the average life node. This sounds suspiciously like a metric. Almost exactly 30% better density? This seriously sounds like something they intentionally decided upon.

Note that this tree is not optimal and maybe a better solution exists, if so, please post it here.

Anyways, time to build as much as an optimal tree with 76 points as possible.

>>183660378
>synergy with skeletons
Nej

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>>183664780
Here is a 323% increased life that saves 5 points, not a big improvement.

Up next, a 76 point life tree.

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>>183664780
>Almost exactly 30% better density? This seriously sounds like something they intentionally decided upon.

I thought this whole shindig was going to amount to "lel life is worse than ES, WHO KNEW?" but this legitimately was a cool discovery

>>183664780
>Thought "Why not go to Duelist area?"
>Do math
>19 points cut from top right loses 50% and allocated below gets you exactly 50% if you take off from the Bloodless Cluster and get Golem's Blood, Bravery cluster (with side-path around the damage Clusters), and the 3 Life/Eva/Arm nodes at the top of Duelist start
Fucking wow.

>>183665036
For those 5 points you saved, you can get Heart and Soul in Witch area and bring that 323 to 336.

>>183664780
The name of the guy who decided upon that golden 30.90(repeating) density ratio? Albert Einstein.

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>>183665036
And finally, a 77 point life tree. 247% is the best I could come up with.

Again, this is actually very consistent, as it is 32.7935%, so very close to 30% better as the life build. Other classes may vary a bit here.

The conclusions I draw from this is that ES is significantly better scaling with gear than life builds, a 30% increase across the board is nothing to laugh at. I don't want to imagine how those numbers would look like in the 2.6 tree, propably a lot worse.