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/mggg/ - Monster Girl Games General #151

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Describe MGQ in one image edition

This general is for the discussion of games containing Monster Girls, main game of discussion is Monster Girl Quest, but people are encouraged to introduce new games.

News:
Monster Girl Quest Paradox 2 is out.
Some guy called Rogue has started helping with the Paradox translation process.
The first bare minimum UI patch for Part 2 is out

How to use the latest non-patch Paradox translation: https://pastebin.com/a0VDpMji
(HAVE FUN WAITING TWO YEARS FOR CORE PLOT POINTS OF PART TWO)

Monster Girl Quest Paradox 2 download: https://mega.nz/#!PI1WiAKZ!exKwDBYVhJ8QK1w3b9M4XCipjv5GgDSyHZ5d_wrlo2w (Why is this even still here for fuck sake?)
2.02 Update: https://mega.nz/#!bpsgGRBa!uqTOpkqTHd0nO9E9w0Wu6lTkKuufNVOlWnEOrvgT1FE (This too)
2.1: https://mega.nz/#!es1mmA4Z!fhvrsj_ch0sxpjzk2o8UTMUUEBkoYVGNDxjFgozGBCU (Need more blue)
Just check the MGQ pastebin for a torrent

Rough Guide: https://pastebin.com/yKjNkSME (WIP) (Also, obviously spoilers)

Monster Girl Quest (MGQ): http://pastebin.com/CGWN0k1u
Monster Girl Island (3D game): http://monstergirlisland.com/
Mobile games with Monster Girls: http://pastebin.com/NFaxEGib
Zell’s game Forest of Blue Skin: http://pastebin.com/hqc0JYhJ
Quest Failed: https://frostworks.itch.io/quest-failed
The Dungeon of Lulu Farea: Kill,Screw, Marry!: https://mega.nz/#!JmI2VDpT!KalSjtfGiwX0SmIhlFT-Y08DKf2jUkDltOba0flsqJ0

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ALMA BEST GIRL
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2nd for NAKAMA SAIKOU
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>>183484184
Speak english, or else...
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>>183483948
>The Dungeon of Lulu Farea: Kill,Screw, Marry
Is this femdom or one of those moege things?
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>lolias pisses on your dick while giving you a footjob
ok thats actually kind of hot, the way you guys have been putting it this whole time I thought she was peeing on your face or something.
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>>183484093
>titcows
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>>183484371
you basically run around fight the girls and then claim their booty. gameplay is pretty fun, have to do a little thinking.
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>>183484658
I hope they get a double paizuri scene one day
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>>183484824
fuck off there's enough paizuri already
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featherp0n0s
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>>183484870
shut up idiot
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>>183484503
I mean. I'm not the retarded anon who keeps bringing it up in everything angel-related to make up his argument for him, but it's still piss, anon.
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>>183416512
This has my heartbreak guro senses tingling
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>>183485037
Reminder Cobra Girl breaks Sara's neck while fucking Luka.
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>>183485120
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>>183484984
you shut up, paizuri is the bane of porn, literally nothing but this shit everywhere and I'm sick of it
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>>183417494
Go home Aldramek, you're drunk
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>>183485253
Screw you, paizuri is great.
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>>183485120
This was the first time in the original game I actually fapped. Playing through again, thanks for reminding me, now I have something to look forward to
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>>183484093
Erubetie is better.
Tamamo is better.
Shiki's succubi are better.
Shiki's ancestors are better.
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>>183485417
It doesn't even feel good. I really don't get what people like about it so damn much that it's all they ever draw anymore.
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>>183483948
When does the Boxed Girl/Hakoiri character ever use the portraits with cloth over her hole?
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>>183485528
>It doesn't even feel good.
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>>183485417
I like cool's faces and boobs,
but the way he draws limbs is weird
is that specific to the fetish he caters to or has he just not figured it out?
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>>183484870
There's not enough double paizuri.
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>>183486004
i have never been able to find this in live action porn
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>>183485569
xelvy characters often have unused variations
there's grayhaired Shesta and some other stuff I forgot
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>>183485984
What, you don't like this arm?
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>>183486137
Shame. I thought the cover was pretty hot. Made it lewder.
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>>183486146
you know what im talking about anon...
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>>183486146
The huge arm looks fine, it's the other, tiny one that's weird
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>>183486229
oh like it was her version of underwear right?
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Hmm.
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>>183487046
I'd hit it. With a giant flyswatter, that is.
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>>183487046
Looks pretty good
Not quite as cute as the dango-loving beelzebub, but I imagine its because she's a nee-san figure
So who is it anyway, some fly ancestor?
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>>183487473
http://www.dieselmine.com/2017/monmusu/system.html
I think it involved fighting monster or magical girls, but I'm not too sure.
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The wait is gonna kill me /mggg/
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>>183487813
>mfw I recognize all those artists
Did dieselmine do mixed artist game before?
Hope its not gonna be a shiny turd like most of their games
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Anybody has the link of the Japanese Paradox wiki?
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>>183487813
Wow most of those designs are boring as fuck.
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>>183488178
I don't think so but I may be wrong since normally their games are one artist or a few.
Do you know who the artist is for the girl with purple diamonds in her hair? The art looks familiar, but I don't have a name.
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>>183488182
Never mind found it / not found it. Not even the Japanese wiki has updated with Part 2's skills learnt by advanced races/jobs.
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Playing through the original MGQ, really starting to feel all the on-the-fly changes torotoro made.
The first was "Shit was peaceful and coexistence was everywhere till the slaughter of Reminia 30 years ago" but after that it's more or less "Lol you're an idiot for even thinking it's possible"
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>>183488383
https://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?id=234753
Hakika.
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>>183488494
And spare EroBestie being water and Granberry being a Dragon, the element thing kinda fell to shit and was ignored.
>Alma was fucking with the wind
Yeah fuck that
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>>183488520
Thanks. I thought she was very similar to the lizard girl, but wasn't 100% on it.
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>>183488610
>ignored
What
Tamamo's element is literally Earth
She's weak to wind
Succubi are all collectively Wind users
And are weak to Earth
And Alma's entire deal was wind
She can use fucking Shamshir, the only other person who uses that is Ilias
You might just be dumb
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>>183488610
THEN you've got Granberry going out and doing stupid shit on her own accord, treating Alice like royalty, bending down on one knee and shit
From later in game I got the feeling the 4HK and Alice where more or less friends that hung out together, Tamamo at very least raised Alice.
The only explanation I can think of here is that throughout the first two parts the 4HK and Alice grew closer. I mean, that kinda works what with Eurobeties "meltdown"
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>>183488780
>Tamamo's element is literally Earth
I still feel it was built up entirely around the idea their elements would play a significant part of their characters
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>Open chest
>See ribbon
What do?
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>>183488932
Cry
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>>183488932
Equip.
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>>183489171
Are you a lamia?

I do find it weird that Alice never wore it while being sealed in Part 3, and only put it on after getting properly unsealed.
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>>183488897
Alma's first meeting with you involves creating storms to fuck with ships and then in Grand Noa she teaches you how to use the wind. Tamamo teaches you how to use the earth in Yamatai and then next time at the ML's castle they BOTH teach you even stronger versions of those. All the HKs had the spirits or just nature in general (Erubutt) being involved with their characters.
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>>183488610
>the element thing kinda fell to shit and was ignored
That's not true at all
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>>183488815
Granberia is just a dork who was caught with her hand in the shota jar. She clearly thought Alice would be pleased if she stopped more heroes from coming, but being called out in the middle of a fight was embarrassing. Tamamo later greets Alice casually and Elma also takes a bow before asking if she can fight Luka.
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>>183486057
Then you haven't watched enough live action porn.
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>>183489527
Well it's not her fault that Alice was secretly planning to get herself killed by Luka. That should have been the first sign for Luka that Alice was actually intending to die by his hand in the name of coexistence, besides being the far more obvious hint that she's the monster lord in the first place.
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How do you think they managed to convince Arekishi he had to draw not one, but two flat chested characters? How do you think he reacted to the request?
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>>183489352
>Alma's first meeting
Exactly, it feels like it was dropped after that
"Teaching" you how to use the elements is kinda weak, given that just feels like what the elements themselves did.
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>>183489734
No, that should have been an indication that Alice was the monster lord, but Luka is kind stupid.
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>>183489734
Alice didn't immediately come up with the self sacrifice plan when she met Luka, she was traveling to figure out how to implement coexistence too. Alice probably came up with the martyr scheme once Luka collected the spirits.
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>>183489943
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>>183489892
>Remi
>Rumi
>Seahorse
He's not that opposed to the idea of drawing flatties.
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>>183490015
>b-but luka should've known! fags btfo
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I wonder what MGQ would sound like if it had the musical quality of some of the bigger names in H-games, like Alicesoft. I sure as hell would love hearing a full rock version of Sitenno or the final boss theme. Or a full orchestral version of Amira's theme.
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Does Luka fight naked
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>>183490686
No, but he has to pull his pants up and retighten his belt after every attack though.
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>>183490496
>full rock version of Sitenno
irc someone one youtube did do that
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>>183490496
We need the Disgaea guys to do a Monster Girl game. They make pretty fun music for games.
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>>183490796
Yeah, but it's not an official version featured in the games. I hope TT will be able to provide us with that at some point, but until then that remix will have to suffice.
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>you can recruit scat captain
Why am I just now noticing this
>this character portrait
the absolute madman
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TENSHI
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>>183491064
http://exhentai.org/g/581098/0e6cd408ff/
http://exhentai.org/g/671438/9cfbf44f4d/
http://exhentai.org/g/749499/500b0e94ab/
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>>183491064
Die in a stomach, voreanon. Here's your (you).
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All you'd really need to do is drop Armored Berserker into the angel world and then the problem takes care of itself.
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>>183491145
I want to get fiddled with by Raphaela
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>>183491436
If I could take care of him with a level 30 party an archangel won't have the slightest issue.
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>>183491872
Too bad he resurrects himself stronger each time...
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>>183491968
>stronger
really?
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>>183491968
That's Adramelech dummy.
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>>183492057
despite being a reality destroying abomination shes pretty cute.
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>>183492098
The cutest
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>>183492049
Not only that, but his power based on how many angels there are in front of him. It also explains why he was regarded as harmless in the forest of spirits, but became a serious threat once Luka and Nero showed up. He would be unstoppable in the angel world.
>>183492057
Armored Berserker is not an apoptosis, but being literally made of Angel Halo makes defeat meaningless, as he will just unseal afterwards. He will be the ultimate winner in a war of attrition.
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>>183492359
>but his power based on how many angels there are in front of him
Please don't make things up to sought your headcanon
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>>183492359
Couldn't Ilias just do the same thing she did to Luka in VN and strip him of holy energy and then smite him or something?
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>>183492359
I meant Adramelech is the one who comes back stronger every time. Armored Berserker doesn't do anything like that. Also that "angel based power" thing is incredibly stupid of you, just because he didn't start fights with the forest inhabitants doesn't mean he just powers up around angels.
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>>183492445
things that were headcanon in the VN days became canon in paradox.
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>>183492584
Except your post was really dumb because that's not how Armored Berserker works.
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>>183489926
>It was dropped after that
Alma's speed is brought up in pretty much every encounter after that. Hell, Luka didn't even know she was using the wind to move really fast and thought she was just teleporting at first.

>"Teaching" you how to use the elements is kinda weak, given that just feels like what the elements themselves did.
Sylph and Gnome couldn't teach Luka how to use the full extent of their powers as they didn't know how to do it themselves. They're not fighters.
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>>183492445
>>183492556
There is little other explanation for the power spike he had once Luka formed the contract with sylph.
>>183492489
Ilias didn't strip Luka of his power, she reverted the erosion on his body. Even if this Ilias could do the same, they would still have a psychotic Heinrich on their hands who could kill enough angels to become the Armored Berserker again.
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>>183492489
She didn't strip him of holy energy, she healed him. Luka could deteriorate again if he ever over uses his angel powers, but now that the world is saved, he doesn't have to fight anymore if he doesn't want to, in fact, he's lost none of the strength he gained from all those battles, it's just that Luka being the softie he is can't get serious in battle with a peaceful world or a sparring match and that's what makes him so easy to defeat by the likes of Alma Elma and Granberia in their epilogues.
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>>183492919
>power spike
he just became hostile
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>>183492919
There was no power spike stupid, he just actually fucking fought someone.
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Unbelted Nero>Alice cooking>9999 stat luka>>>>>God black Alice>illas=alice1>Lucifina and micaela>6 ancestors=7 archangels=Nero and neris>Eden merged with heaven=Heinrich>Luka>Alice 16>Black Alice>Eden=4 Knights=Lilith>other seraph/Lilith sisters>Ancient monsters>queen monsters>normal monster>weak monsters>sonya>slugs
Powerlevels
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>>183492919
He was harmless because there was nobody with angel blood around for him to attack.
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Are the alternate boss dialogues translated for part 1? (Like fighting a boss with themselves)
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>>183492919
>Monster Girl Games and Headcanon General
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>>183493140
They should be aside from any new ones like Papi or Morrigan. Queen Harpy also doesn't have any dialogue for herself sadly.
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>>183493029
Needs more memes because it's too accurate otherwise
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>>183492986
>>183493019
>>183493130
The monsters in the forest of spirits go out of their way to inform you of him, but Luka's party doesn't detect him. Even Alice and Ilias who were established as being able to sense angels, didn't notice him until it was too late. This is unlike Enrika, where they could tell in an instant that it was filled with angels despite none of them attempting to fight.
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>>183493342
Thanks Anon.
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What kinds of food do monsters like to eat? What would they cook for a humen?
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>>183493405
>not noticing someone means that person is weak
Stop being retarded.
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>>183493570
Typically meat or sweets, some are vegetarians and like rice balls or tofu.
>what would they cook for a human
Anything they wanted.
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I can't be the only one curious on what morrigan and alma elma reaction to some foods like kids meals and potato right?
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Reminder that the 2.10 update patch is here;

https://mega.nz/#!es1mmA4Z!fhvrsj_ch0sxpjzk2o8UTMUUEBkoYVGNDxjFgozGBCU
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>>183493570
>what would they cook for humans
probably something that increases sperm production
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>>183493570
Bitch needs to tie her hair back before she gets hurt desu
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>>183493570
who is this semen demon?
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>>183493621
It does carry some interesting connotations about his power. Nero's speech about his condition afterwards only deepens the mystery.
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>>183494151
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>>183493721
Morrigan to a potato:
>Potato? Is this a joke...?
>no change to happiness
Morrigan to a kid's meal:
>Are you making a fool of me, hey!
>no change to happiness
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>>183493570
Parfaits, Wedding Cakes, Sukiyaki, Kid's Meals, and Boiled Eels.
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>>183494270
what does make her affection go up?
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>>183494153
All it means is that he is dormant until he encounters an angel.
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>>183494270
If she wasn't so picky about her food, maybe her boobies would finally grow...
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>>183494270
>Potato? Is this a joke...?
Yes
>>Are you making a fool of me, hey!
Yes
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>>183494362
The things she likes the most are Sukiyaki and Wedding Cake. Those both give 210.
After that is Steak at 195 and Parfait at 180. Mostly meat and sweets, it seems.
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>>183494645
Give her a beetle
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What kinda things does Sonya like?Doki doki waku waku
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>>183494721
No change in happiness.
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Posting best Seeker of Truth.
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>>183494928
Give her a bettle at muzzel velocity
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>>183495336
I still don't understand where did her genitals go
Did she get rid of them for some reason?
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>>183495336
so is she wearing flesh colored underwear or whats the deal her?
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>>183495421
>>183495431
Her vagina is almost visible...
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monster girl gamu best west vn! play! it good! very great! beauty monster girls!
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>>183495498
thats the thing when she goes combat mode , is doesn't look like she removed anything but somehow a censor gets added to her crotch
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>>183495421
>>183495431
I find the the mound of venus sexier than actual vago to be honest.
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>>183495594
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>>183495786
did you have a mini-stroke while typing this?
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>>183495715
tattoos are symbols of power in mgq
what you're seeing is her normal form
this is her homunculus form
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>>183495905
He's a really sad and depressing shitposter.
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>>183495956
Why are she and Lily in combat mode in the castle? Also, Lily's so fucking crazy she doesn't have a scene in Grandeur when everybody has one, even Lucifina and Micaela
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>>183496034
>>183495905
stop replying to yourself
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>183496392
You don't even deserve a (You)
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>>183496384
She does have a skit though, she tells all the women in the audience that they can be strong if they joined her. The audience is creeped out that they are watching a recruitment drive
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>>183496667
what did he meme by this?
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>>183485253
Boobs are filled with men's hopes and dreams.
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>>183496978
More like pervert worms!
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>>183496978
Paizuri is hot until you actually experience it.
Then you realize it's like being jacked off using 1/4th the grip strength.
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Will I still be able to recruit the heavenly knights if I chose Illias as my starting companion?
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>>183497382
Glad to see someone else knows how meh it really is
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>>183497434
Ask Torotoro.
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>>183497382
what if she has a hairy chest?
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>>183497434
Yes you can recruit them at least you can Alma
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>>183497434
No one knows at this point.
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>>183497557
>hairy chest
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>183497557
Her squishy paws would feel better.
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>>183497382
>>183497508
Fake breasts don't count.
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>>183497557
I want to fuck her doggy style!
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>>183497726
No, leathery paw pads and scratchy fur on your dick would not feel good.
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>>183497893
I agree breast implants really feel bad
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>>183497893
What's fake is these two virgins pretending they know what breasts feel like lmao
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>>183498251
>What's fake is these two virgins pretending they know what breasts feel like lmao
That's a lot of projecting anon tell me what was her name?
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>>183498251
They're like ones you have. Except without the hair and the clammy feeling of shame.
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>>183498864
>tfw you'll never naizuri yourself
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>>183499416
Not with that attitude!
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>>183499416
>tfw Morri-chan will never naizuri you
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>>183497508
>>183497382
It depends though
My experience was pretty good
But the woman was like Cerea huge
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>>183499835
Was she fat?
getting a paizuri is my biggest dream and I think I'll hire a hooker at least once to paizuri me all night
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>>183499835
Sorry, I can live with a decent amount of pudge but I can't do landwhales.
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>>183500138
Yeah was thicc
But not obese
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>>183501286
You're not fooling anyone bud
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Dargoth patch aint working on 2.10 version, any way to get interface translated?
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>>183499606
DO NOT TRUST SHIKIBI. THEY DO NOT UNDERSTAND LOVE. THEY WILL KILL YOU.
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>>183501772
Works fine on my machine.
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>>183501772
Open the game up in VX Ace Editor and manually copy paste over everything from the patch.

Should take about 20-30 hours.
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>>183501992
>>183501992
>Should take about 20-30 hours.
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>>183501781
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Rjy6jppmGQ
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>>183501781
Fuck off bitch, I do what I want with my life
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>>183501992
>Open the game up in VX Ace Editor
you can do that?
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>>183503803
Yeah? How do you think people were pulling the maps from the game last thread?
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>>183503803
You can extract it, then create a new project and import all of the extracted files.
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>>183503787
Go commit suicide by Shikibi than. I'm just here to warn you it's not a good idea to trust them.
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White Rabbit is cute! Cute!
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>>183503912
computer hacking stuff I assumed.
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>>183504943
When is trtr going to give us a potato-based aluraune
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>>183505070
>potato-based aluraune
>All Succubi gain +50 attack when seeing it + beserk
>It only attacks Succubi
>Eva passes out
>Succubus (Mayor who is named Succubus) will attempt digestion on it
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>>183505070
isn't lala a potato
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>>183504943
How is Alma so best?
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the thread is dead
fuck akazawa red
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Valkyrie a best
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>>183507385
not that i care for youur shitposting either way,
but there are other words that rhyme with red.
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>>183508103
Fuck akazawa red
Just not in my bed?
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>>183508103
The thread was on page 10 though.
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>>183508509
You'll take him to the shed
and have a threesome with Ted?
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>>183485120
Nice
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>>183508103
This may surprise you, but disliking Akazawa's art does not qualify as shitposting.
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not bad
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>>183509285
Does reminding us of Akazawa Red count?
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>>183509371
Hail Xelvy.
He is a genuine artist.
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>>183509415
Posting his shitty excuse of a design certainly does.
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>>183509371
>Twinkel
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>>183509371
What is she supposed to be?
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>>183509371
xelvy monster girls are Real Monster girls no pne said monster girls are hot as angels or succubuses
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>>183509878
Two Remina Castle maids who got apoptosis'd into one entity.
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>>183510102
can they still perform their duties?
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octuple boobs is best boobs
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>>183510102
But what kind of monster is she?
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>>183508103
When Alma Elma is fed
Voreanon will be dead

>>183484093
>>183507183
She's great. I feel genuine love for her.
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>>183497557
>>183497710
>touch fluffy chest
Those kitsune furfags should be very happy!
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>>183510217
Beelzebubs are best waifus.
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>>183510217
multiple boob sets are my fetish
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>Little Nanabi's trait is the same as Nanabi's, except weaker
Cute.
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>>183488610
Shittenou/四天王 corresponding to elements is just a famous RPG cliche(most famous in FF4 probably) that they were referencing because MGQ at its heart is just a huge mix of classic RPG cliches. It doesn't really mean anything outside of they specialize in those elements(and they mostly did)
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>>183483829
There's no new images for her though, just checked both the older version and the VN, not even a battle cut-in
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>>183510412
Bestiality?
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>>183510391
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>>183510637
dude no
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>>183510637
Please, no more Delphinus art.
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If someone were to somehow get the pocket castle away from Luka and go inside it with the intent to rob it blind thinking there's stuff in there, what's the worst that can happen to them?
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do you go tiny to get into the castle or does the castle get big?
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>>183510637
If it isn't my bbf hey Satan doing well?
Need help doing YHVH i mean Ilias work?
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>>183511113
Getting turned to dust by an apoptosis probably isn't pleasurable like every other possible death he could encounter in there.
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>>183511113
Luka and co take a harpy feather to the pocket castle and kick their ass.
>>183511234
It's described as a pocket dimension
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>>183511408
>It's described as a pocket dimension
so why you have to be outside to use it?
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>>183511408
>It's described as a pocket dimension
So, you have to get tiny or is this the pocket of a giant?
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>>183511113
The worst? He would leave empty-handed without being raped.
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Who am I missing? I have both Lily and Lucia.
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>>183511572
why you side with the nutcase?
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>>183511572
>女神
Are you on Alice route? That's probably one of Ilias's.
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>>183511572
has to be ilias exclusive stage
Yeah ilias has one only for her in the theatre alice doesn't though
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After going through Grangold Castle again, it's clear there wasn't really any nerfing.
Alt Tamamo instantly wipes out the average player's party with a single attack and calls them trash, but then once they're healed they defeat Lilith. Lilith admits she wasn't holding back, which impresses and further convinces her that the two sides should team up. Keep in mind that Lilith was shown to be Alma Elma's equal. Meanwhile, a tired normal form Neris was equal to Granberia.
The power levels are consistent. We just didn't realize how enormous the gap was between the 4HK and Six Ancestors. As Lilith states, it's the difference between a city and a country.
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>>183512106
the fiend
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>>183512334
>Lilith wasn't holding back
Well her library entry showing a recruit status makes sense then.
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>>183511559
I honestly think that Luka's comrades still go a raping when he's not around, I mean if that one Grandeur performance means anything even monsters like Succubus Nun go out and rape. I still can't help but laugh at the idea of the characters running around the castle looking for partners for their shows and how they manage to convince others in the castle to join in such as Mecha Pope and his SEGI MAKINA routine or all of the tartarus monsters causing the stage to undergo Chaosization or what logic convinced IIias that the vore monsters would make good show partners or apparently the vampires tricking everybody into deeming the lights so they could rape the audience, at least the succubi made it part of the show. I feel like Hip,Shizuka and Sonya were rejected by everybody else for being country bumpkins
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What are chances it will be possible to permanently unseal Tamamo and how much stronger than Shikimamo would she be?
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>>183512716
They're equivalent. That said ones a Shikibi so the other wins by default.
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>>183512716
>unseal Tamamo
Near 100%
>compared to Shikimamo
If TRTR wants to maintain some consistency they should be the same.
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>>183512424
if anything it shows that ilias indeed in the Main Heroine in Paradox just like Alice was in the VN
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>>183512716
Probably equal. I just want to have Jingaimamo on my dick and Shikimamo on my face.
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>>183512715
Considering that nearly all of them complain about being bored and having nothing to do, its doubtful they can leave on their own.
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>>183511113
almost dying from an explosion
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>>183513072
Plenty of party members can show up in towns without being in your party.
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>>183507434
source
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>>183512981
>doesn't even suck Luka's dick
Nah Alice will eternally be better.
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>>183513282
Always the harmless ones.
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>>183512334
>We just didn't realize how enormous the gap was between the 4HK and Six Ancestors

I would think most of us would have already realized how big that gap was even in the original trilogy where a sealed Tamamo was still strong enough to be on par with a heavenly knight
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>>183513398
Promestein is a dangerous existence anon.
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>Hip will never use her spiral power pussy on you

Why exist
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>>183513745
Can you even impregnate Hip?
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>>183511572
Yes, that stage 5 is missing on my Alice go as well, probably the one where Ilias takes the stage solo, and Alice has no equivalent.

>>183512715
The minotaur girls accept Sonia!
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>>183513515
The part where her special attack is comparable to Micaela's one should be enough of a hint
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>>183514083
>a boss doing 50,000 damage
I never saw that attack, holy shit.
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>>183513515
I think a lot of people assume her initial sealed state was weak and she had to work her way back up to 4HK level.
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Huh, discovered a way to softlock the game. If you talk to the sheep girl in Grandeur's casino and mash through the text, you can follow them as they walk away and talk to the sheep again. If you're still talking to her as she leaves, you get stuck in place. Unfinished triple A games these days, am I right?
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>>183517127
Bizarrely enough, you can eventually get to the menu and use the harpy wing to TP out. When you go back, the sheep girl will be there again.
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Does anyone still have the Paradox world map that someone made? Its the one that includes every hidden island.
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>>183517685
I don't have the really big and detailed one that was posted at one point but I have this one that I made which is mostly adequate
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>>183518067
>Island all the way up there
>Island all the way to the right
Interesting.
I better not be cucked by mountain walls I swear.
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>>183518067
This will do. I just wonder whats gonna happen at the Sealed Sinners Prison. Because if Heinrich is free to move about than why does it still exist?
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>>183518547
its not he was the only person to oppose illias.
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>>183518547
The thing moving about is his body. The thing in the prison is his soul.

(I don't know if it'll still be there or not but yeah)
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>>183518547
His soul is sealed, but his body is the armoured berserker. At least, that's what I think the situation is.
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If Hienrich was defeated how on earth did they not break his mind with pleasure?
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>>183519051
pain and pleasure are no more than information before the senses, data fed to the computer of the mind.
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>>183491064
>>183491173
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That Paradox 2 2.1 download is it the full game or just the update files?
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>>183519595
I uploaded the full game
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I want to become Illias' pet!
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>>183519709
I see, thanks.
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>>183519296
Sauce on this?
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The whole "Promestein turns Luka into a vampire" thing seems to not be working for me. Prome's in my party and it doesn't trigger at all.
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>>183519963
Why is she in adult form?
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>>183519051
By the time of his defeat he was already a mindless berserker that fused with his own sword, There's no mind to really break there
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>>183520265
Its a custom made thing
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>>183519963
No Lady Ilias i want to get on my knees and pleasure YOU oraly
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You know, I find it funny how monsters won't use pleasure attacks on males (in the party) other than Luka, not even Heinrich, who I'm sure would still be considered to have good genes (even if nowhere near as good as his half angel descendant).

To be honest, I've forgotten why that is, was it trtr not wanting it to look like luka could get cuked or what?
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>>183520223
Make sure you have completed the two quests that Promestein puts on that board. Both involve going into the secret lab where you find Hildr.

Once you do so, and you have completed the Vampire Bar, talk to the left vampire that sells drinks and Luka will turn into a vampire (completely screwing your ability and equipment setup and forcing you to equip them again the bastards).

After that, from the Pocket Castle main hall you can speak with Prom and you can unlock Vampires for humans, Beast for Slimes (requires you to first unlock the Beast race for that Bunny Slime) and Fairy for Mermaids (you need to complete both Lucia and Gigi's sidequests, which involve visiting all spirits).

Btw, for each character you want to give a new race you'll have to pay items to unlock that additional race, so have fun with that. You don't lose any race during the process btw (for example, human characters can still switch to human races if you don't want them to be Vampire anymore).
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>>183520704
Japanese otaku's autistic screeching about NTR, yeah. Basically he has to make sure that the only male getting the pussy is the self insert.
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>>183520704
>was it trtr not wanting it to look like luka could get cuked or what?

Basically yes. Don't want players getting jelly of other men
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>>183520704
>>183520846
>>183520869
Doesn't that fuck up the fact that they now are immune to pleasure?
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>>183520704
I had Heinrich cum to a slime(or was it digestive juices?)-based aoe pleasure attack
They're still affected by pleasure, just won't be targeted directly
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>>183521028
They can still get hit with pleasure attacks they just won't be targeted.
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>>183519963
how much has been translated?
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>>183520096
Don't have a name but I believe the producer goes by Pink Pineapple
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That poor, poor bastard.

>>183520805
I've done both of her quest (Original and Morrigan one) and all it does is let me buy drinks still.
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>>183520294
But they took out his soul and we know soul rape is a thing, a few of the angels do it to Luka in part 3 and that one page monster does it when she drags Luka into her world.
>>183520704
Actually,yes, they made it clear that even if you have other males in the party the AI will not use pleasure attacks on them, only Luka will be targeted even for non game over rape attacks like the imp will only target Luka and there's even an option to remove all the males from your party and toto confirmed Sonya is a virgin, like that really needed to be asked here.
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>>183521256
Bring Luka, Promestein and I recommend Sonya and Alice/Ilias too to the bar. Make sure to read that board to see if she has that sidequest active, and make Prom join your party by talking to her, not using the maid. See if that works.
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>>183521230
Thanks anon, will make do and search around.
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>>183521256
So those seats are for the knights, I guess the seat in the back is for Alice? In fact, since I've never played Alice's route where does she hang out in the pocket castle when you take her out of the party?
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>>183521310
I don't recall any of the specific h-scenes or whatever, but the Q and A says that pleasure torture is impossible without a physical body

Q.本編の描写を見ると、天使達の懲罰は快楽拷問というイメージがあるのですがハインリヒの魂が封印される際に天界に余裕があれば封印内で快楽地獄という可能性もあったのですか?しなくても長い封印で磨耗していたようですが…。

A. 肉体を失っていたため、快楽拷問は不可能でした。
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>>183521551
In the kitchen... yeah, she'll probably stick there even if adult, changing forms doesn't seem to affect their position in the castle.

So far, Alicetromeia is the only one sitting on the seats you mentioned. Since you haven't done Alice's route, you don't have her so that's why the seats are empty for you.
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>>183521551
She stays at the kitchen together with the rat and that broke succubus kinda fitting
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>>183521171
Alot
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>>183518067
There's something in the middle of the giant Tartarus. That dot isn't just random.
Though it may just be where you ride Galda through, gotta go to that tile or something.

To the east of the Navy is a dot which is the Gloria Pirates' ship. Likewise the polar bear girl can be seen as a dot on her island.

I thought the Helgondo shrine was the Sealed Sinner's Prison, turns out they're 2 different locations.
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>>183521852
Yeah it's just to mark the entrance to the tartarus. It's a glowing sparkle which means you'll probably have to go to that exact spot to enter
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>>183518067
The towns are too small on that one.
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>>183521803
>those smol affection requirements
you're Ilias is a slut whore
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>>183521471
I mean, the save file has been through 3-4 different versions of Paradox part 2 alone (one version of part 1) but they're both done. There is no active sidequest for Prome at all.

So what are you on about because nothing you're saying works.
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>>183521757
>>183521780
Are they allies or just gluttonious freeloaders? I remember a conversation between Sonya and Sara about rice balls so that makes me wonder, whose serving breakfest,lunch and dinner to your comrades, why does Luka bother camping when he can just go to the castle to sleep at night, worried about his allies raping him? Finally, alot of these monsters eat alot, Whose buying the ingredients?
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>>183486767
[X] Touch fluffy tail
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>>183520096
>>183521490
Sei Yariman Sisters Pakopako Nikki The Animation if you haven't found it already.
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>>183522297
I dunno, but Luka says they'd go bankrupt if there was a feast in the pocket castle like the post-war one everyday.
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>>183522246
If you upload the save file I can investigate I guess(even though you're not being very polite)
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>>183488424
I'm compiling a list now but it'll take a while and it isn't up to par with Dargoth's and MGL's standards (no percentages and wholly accurate names and whatnot). Incidentally, there's a bankai among the Katana skills. Specifically, the Samurai Saint job.

...no, really. Guess which one.
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Alice selfcest when?
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>>183522671
God bless.
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>>183522671
Fuck yes, thank you anon. Any estimation? No rush at all, take your time, just curious.
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Considering that both the alternate worlds have a fractured Sentora Continent but no central Tartarus, or any others except one leading to the Paradox world, is it possible that both sides have learned how to close some of them?
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>>183522429
What? Context? Surely Luka didn't seriously return to the pocket castle and "Good job everyone! We did it! Now let's have a feast!"?
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>>183522671
Excuse me sir, Kyouka Suigetsu is a shikai not a bankai!
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>>183522434
https://mega.nz/#!BmwV1LqK!HblpTVZ1vGA5lqhGI2s6mtZP4mMaiqFrsLIkglKtuV4

Try it out it might just be just due to how much crap the save's gone through.
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What do the numbers mean?
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>>183523516
I checked the board and it's absolutely full of unfinished side quests, including the slime beast quest.

Clear out that shit first
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>>183523572
The number after F is the world number the numbers after X and Y are probably the 2D coordinate on that world.
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>>183523989
What? I'm not seeing any of those quest at all.

This is problem with switching saves between games and patches. My fault than. Sorry.
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>>183523482
>>183522797
>>183523000
It's been ages since I gave a damn about Bleach. Also, I'm focusing on the jobs and there's no estimate except I'm taking breaks every few "sets" (wrapping up the learned skills from the three Samurai jobsi) so...days? Really, you're better off just waiting for the next patch.

Also, a lot of the new abilities are translated except for the mastery ones, but those are easy to spot if you know katakana. That, and they're the last thing you learn from an advanced job. However, there's mastery for armor as well. Clothes Mastery, Helmet Mastery, and so on.
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>>183523989
>>183524220
Thats fucking wierd, even though i did the quest in the past the game has reregistered them as unfinished.

This means Quest do not save between transfers if you go from Dargoth Part 1 Patch to Part 2. Son of a bitch.
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>>183523572
Hard to say
F was used in context of timelines by Apoptosis Sonya, but they were numbered from 0, so the Paradox world is actually 10229th? That's a lot
Also I doubt 3-digit numbers are enough for cartesian coordinates of an entire fucking world,
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>>183524572
>so the Paradox world is actually 10229th?
Paradox world is later mentioned to be F00001. She is copying a monster from a different world when she says this.
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>>183488494
TT didn't really think monmusu quest would get as popular as it did,
got huge sales and thus a bigger budget and i guess that let him do more with it.
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I just realized Manyu Sonya has Morrighan's horns and hairstyle
Who's parts did she eat for her Mazda version?
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>>183524957
Gnosis.
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>>183524561
Well, after going through the side quest again Every Vampire, Alice and Hild don't have a reaction to it. Though Luka does constantly moan about blood.
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>>183525010
oh boy, must've felt a fellow vacuum fellatrix
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>>183524492
>It's been ages since I gave a damn about Bleach
well its coming back
as a pachinko game
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>>183525459
Sonya doesn't have a reaction to it either? That's weird, she reacts to everything regarding Luka, hell all of her battle quotes involve Luka including blushing when using a buff move or a heal move on him, seriously it only happens for Luka, bitch is thirsty as fuck. Too bad for her,Luka couldn't care less about her
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>>183525682
>Too bad for her,Luka couldn't care less about her
she just got to force him then
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>>183525682
Sonya does have an reaction to it, but only because Promestein calls it "Garlic Extract." She doesn't react to it probably because Luka tells Promestein to use it on her.

As for Hild, well she DOES ask Luka if they want to have children together in a campfire scene and Sonya can only watch with disappointment if you say yes.
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>>183525972
>disappointment
She makes an angry glare at you before you're able to say yes.
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>>183526220
If you lose to the battlefuckers on the boat, since Sonya is forced to watch there as there's no other place to go to avoid it, Sonya's even angrier than when Luka wins.
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Is the Black Alice who deals with the puppeteer also the Goddess Black Alice, or she's a different one?
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>>183525682
>She doesn't care about him
You're free to have your own headcannon, but don't go spouting lies. Part 2 ending makes it very clear that you're wrong.
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>>183526589
She is very likely Goddess Black Alice, because she has knowledge of Luka defeating her after she was infused with holy energy.
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>>183526589
Shes the same one. And her underlings, with exception of the Puppeteer and the Alice necro-puppets are bosses who are actually really weak.
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>>183519963
>>183521803
For those who haven't realised yet, this isn't actually in the game.
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>>183526589
The implication is that Black Alice copy pasted those monsters from the past, as they are not apart of Kagetsumugi's zombies.
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>>183526943
I'M COMING AT YA LIKE A TIDAL WAVE
>>183526691
Well there's no translation and I can't read moon so I don't know anything about part 2. I thought fucking grown IIIias was possible.
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>>183523443
The one that happens when the Grangold vs Tri Alliance war is over.
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>>183527636
>There's no translation
Then just get a text hooker. It's so easy a retad could do it. There's really no excuse not to use one.
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Huh, so apparently you can fuck the Golem now
With Mephisto's help
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Can anyone explain to me why equipping genji gloves sometimes doesn't let the character equip two weapons at once? Equipping it on Eden doesn't seem to change anything
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>>183527761
No excuse except having a minimum expectation of quality.
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>>183527956
Weapon Mastery abilities disables dual-wielding.
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>>183528023
I thought the new patch enabled it.
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>>183527969
Let me rephrase that, there's no excuse to spout bullshit and then hide behind "BUH NO TRANSLATION"
Machine translation isn't even that bad if you're using the right one. VNR + TA through google translate is suprisingly lucid for the most part. I can understand not being happy with just the machine translator but it's better than having the whole game in ping pong.
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>>183528120
Thats going to be in the balance changes for 2.20.

Also its gotten to the point where we're more excited about a porn game made for porn and we're actually more in love with the gameplay than the actual porn it was made for.

Seriously Paradox feels like one of the best RPG's actually released by this point. And it really does show how much shit TRTR is willing to go through to make games.
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>>183528352
> Paradox feels like one of the best RPG's actually released by this point
Let's not get too ahead of ourselves. Paradox is good but it's nor Sengoku Rance.
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It just occurred to me.
If you're using google translate with text hookers, then you're raising the baby Skynet on an eroge diet.
When it finally becomes self-aware and takes over, it will think exactly like we do.
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>>183527713
>IIias and Alice in the same room
So does Alice actually assist or is she just here to party crash
>Sonya,Nuruko and Hild together again
Christ, those three are always together at the hip
How is Alice not talking to Alma when she's right behind her?
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>>183528518
I am pretty sure a huge portion of its moonrune traffic comes from TA, since perverts all over the world play all kinds of eroges
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>>183528587
Would Alice want to eat or to talk?

Also depending on the route either Ilias or Alice gets captured and doesn't do anything.
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>>183528352
>Thats going to be in the balance changes for 2.20.

No it's already implemented in 2.10.

I'm packing dual-wield mastery as we speak
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>>183528587
>How is Alice not talking to Alma when she's right behind her?
Because there's super tasty food in front of her, don't you know Alice?
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>>183528587
the exact point i realized ilias had a better route was the first time you run into her in some cave on the alice route and she pulls you over telling you sonya isn't to be trusted while alice just argues with her as usual
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>>183528514
Rance fans are the worst. I don't even understand why you'd play MGQ unless you're the type to play the game and complain about femdom.
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>>183528915
Why would Alice have anything to say about Sonya?
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>>183529264
cause shes an apotosis
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>>183529357
And why would Alice know that? IIias only says Sonya's not to be trusted because she knows every human ever even in a world that's not hers and never knew a Sonya
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>>183528951
Paradox is a good game with some good scenes, no one's disputing that. But the gameplay lacks the complexity and depth that Rance has.
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>>183529264
>>183529357
On Alice route when Sonya turns back from being an Apoptosis Alice simply doesn't give a damn and actually seems to be kinda friends with Sonya.
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>>183529264
thats kind of it
alice was basically chilling until white rabbit danced in and sealed her
then her missing mom came back and shes as confused about the whole thing as anyone would be
ilias at least has a vague inkling about whats happening and is also related to the original VN in the sense that shes a fragment of the original ilias that was sealed which explains her memory loss. the exposition from the paradox world ilias at the end of part 2 which showed that the ilias accompanying you wasn't the same one from the opening scene and baptism was pretty eyeopening
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>>183528514
I have not played rance
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>>183529879
Most of us haven't, because its fucking Rance.
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I've got a problem, I downloaded the latest version from DLsite, I'm pretty sure I installed it properly with the split files it gave me, but when I try to run it I get the following message.

"Script "(bunch of japanese) ver5" line 94: Runtime Error occurred.

PatchError - v2.01.00
(bunch of Japanese with a v2.01 in there)

Anyone have any idea what the problem might be?
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>>183529520
Sonya seems to have alot of friends in the castle, Hip,Shizuka,Hild,Gnome,Radio,Nuruko
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>>183530124
Also she's accepted among minotaurs.
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>>183530124
>friends
as in actual friends or yuri shenanigans?
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>>183530512
Yes, friends, Sara is her friend,too, she wouldn't mind being more either, I think she's friends with one of the battlefuckers,too.The one who looks like cotton candy
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>>183530959
>The one who looks like cotton candy
you say that and all i can think of is lumpy space princess.
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>>183530512
None of those are lewd enough for yuri.
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What jobs teach the passive dual wielding?
Advanced Ninja?
I have a plan for something, it requires dual wielding.
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Can somebody remind me where panty sensei is?
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I don't know if this is intended or not, but in patch 2.10 Mastery was changed so that class-innate mastery stacks with ability-equipped Mastery.

So if a weapon normally increases your attack by 200, if you change to a class with mastery and equip the mastery ability, it'll increase your attack by 680(as opposed to the normal 440 with just one mastery)

And with this being compatible with dual-wielding you can get some pretty crazy attack power numbers
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>>183531581
pornof. Underground in castle.
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>>183531673
>>183531673
what castle?
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>>183531630
Know off hand which job gives dual wield passive?
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>>183532006
You were correct it's the advanced ninja job
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Are there any special alternate scenes in the game? There's a couple enemies with alternate graphics that can't be recruited. Wonder if they just gonna sit and do nothing.
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>>183532735
>couple enemies with alternate graphics that can't be recruited.
Angel soldier E?
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>>183528951
It's not worse than playing through the game and feeling the need to every day complain about one of the artists in a north-korean porn magazine sharing board
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>>183533417
You're right. The delphinus haters need to get a life.
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>>183531673
Thank you.
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>>183532869
I want to see this setup on Queen Elf with a slayer skill equipped.

Some people were asking if she was nerfed. As far as I can tell the race bonus damage is the same.

Also I noticed that because of how the bonus damage is calculated, being in a combination of Queen Elf and Holy Archer means that just having a Slayer Skill is enough to triple your damage even against enemies that don't correspond to the slayer skill you're using.

(Of course if it does correspond it's like 5x instead which is better)
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>>183532869
>double crossbow
How does it even work ?
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>>183534946
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsd9s2drl38
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>>183534946
If anyone can dual wield a long ass sword and wield a big ass gun then I'm sure dual wielding two crossbow is possible for Lucy chan.
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>>183536368
So... she's bashing the enemies heads with them instead of firing them ?
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>>183534946
Magic reloading.
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>>183536715
It could probably be a automatic crossbow. Hey remember Paradox has apparently infinity bullets after all.
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fucking finally
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Does the "Place" Strength abilities actually work? I'm not noticing any change in my stats in the menu whenever I equip them
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>>183538127
What does she say if you defeat her? Do even get anything beyond bragging rights?
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>>183538664
You get a last elixer, which is like a inn stay on the go. Other than that, no.
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>>183538664
Her robes, which are the best in the game and an achievement. But she's just annoyed that you would fight her and tells you to fuck off for wasting her time.
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>>183538972
Man, Reaper seems pretty unfriendly
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>>183540863
She's rather uninterested if anything. She isn't "mean" like the above anon implies. She just admits you're tough, but you shouldn't be wasting both her and your time fighting each other.
It's actually worth it to do it the first time for what drops when shes defeated.
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>>183540863
>Select to delete male party members
>Select to delete all male party members
>"Very well, I will delete all male party members. Including you."
>Luka literally dies

Yeah she's kind of a dick
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>>183541318
That's a nice fuck you to self insertfags who think only Luka should get a pussy pounding.
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>>183540863
I wouldn't say she's mean, just sort of uninterested? I like when she asks you for money.
>There's a saying that even in hell the extent of one's suffering is determined by money. It's true. I take donations.
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>Sonya continues to demand a real explanation from Lazarus
>Lazarus claims to merely be the chairman of a card playing association
>Merlin also claims to just like machines with spinning numbers
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>>183540863
>brings you back from being kill
>"you're free to go and try again, no consequence"
>tell her to shut up and fight you instead
>>183541318
>wanting to kill your bros

Luka's the asshole in both situations though, not to mention he'd have fallen for the oldest trick in the book in case of the latter.
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>>183541834
You can't fight Reaper after she brings you back, you have to go to Hades.
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>>183541950
how do i find hades?
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>>183541318
>It's actually true
Shit, I thought you were joking.
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>>183541653
You can just kill some of them though. The option between "some" and "all" should immediately tip someone off that they're about to get pranked but you do get an achievement if you do all.
>>183542123
Door upstairs in Ilias Temple.
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>Reaper can literally just erase Luka with a wave of her hand but she actually fights you legit instead

Actually in a way she kind of sounds like a nice sport to me
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Rate from best to worst
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>>183542428
She first copy pastes an Alice to fight you beforehand so its more like she's purposefully making it a chore.
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>>183542215
oh so thats what that was, I assumed it was just some sidequest
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>>183542428
Well she is the literal God of Death. I'd be surprised if you end up recruiting her before post-game in part 3, unless she joins up to delete CG Black Alice or something.
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>>183542487
>Monster scum.
Purged
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>>183528587
IIRC, she only was let in to eat because she came with Tamamo.
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>>183542487
Big Breasts
Big Breasts
Big Breasts
Big Breasts
Slime breasts
Flat
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>>183531113
Master Shinobi and one of the Scylla races I believe.
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>>183542487
Ones that don't kill you
Ones that kill you
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>>183543269
>Ones that don't kill you
>Shiki
Pick one my man
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>>183542487
Why is Hiruko the only one with a mouth like that, it creeps me out
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>>183543378
It's her cute girl form is a ruse and she's actually a giant mass of hundreds of tentacles.
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>>183542487
we need to see their sealed loli versions
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>>183543542
So I guess at this point Nuruko = Sealed Hiruko theory is debunked? Unless there's some serious crazy shit going on
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>>183543730
Nuruko is the spirit of Chaos
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>>183543364
Probably more like
>Saja
>Ones that kill you
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>>183543841
Yeah, that's why I was asking if it was debunked. It's still possible that there's some weird soul shenanigans going on here, given the name and design similarity between the two.
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>>183543841
does that mean there is a spirit of order?
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>>183542487
>>183543913
>Best yandere
>Loli Eden
>Muderers
>Shikibus
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>>183543913
>Yandere
>Not going to kill you because "That way nobody else will have you", a classic Yandere play
Pick one and only one
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>>183544164
>classic yandere
More like modern "yandere"
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>>183541792
Fuck,dude, I can't imagine the clubbing he's in for when she finally figures it out.
>>183542428
She's probably bored and lonely like that Zombie in Chrome's house, good lord she's talkative, Almost makes me wish we could have taken her with us.
>>183542814
Two of the knights in Grand Noah
Where the fuck was Granberia? You'd think she'd be itching to test herself against a seemingly unstoppable army
>>183543997
Unknown,but people like to think Loliias will become that sicne she cannot regain her power, her fragmented self is as strong as she'll get, there was no seal
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>>183542487
>Succubus Plant
>Succubus Slime
>Succubus Succubus
>Succubus Snek Bird
>Succubus Fox
>Succubus Squid
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>>183544164
Most Yanderes don't have tremendous power both personally and politically.
Why kill him when she can easily kill everyone else?
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Now that Nuruko has been revealed to be the spirit of chaos, which also represents nothingness, shouldn't her name be changed to Nullko? After Neris is changed to Nelice.
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>>183544723
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>>183544723
Her name is Nuruko because nuru is an onomatopoeia for slimy in Japan.
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>>183544723
Please NERICE not Nelice, the latter just sounds SO fucking stupid.
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>>183543997
No. The opposite of chaos is not order. At least not the definition Paradox is using
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>>183544958
Yeah she looks pretty ugly but her halo is bitchin and she probably doesn't look like she literally took piss bath in her alternate form
There's also the part where she isn't disgusting monster
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>>183544958
Let's be honest, if someone had to choose between the worlds as a regular human, 99% of them would go angel.
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>>183545165
>The opposite of chaos is not order.
then what is?
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>>183544958
Raphaela should have just shown him maps of both worlds. That would work pretty well
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>>183545253
but wouldn't that be like living in north Korea?
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>>183544958
I want to spend the rest of my life with Saja!
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>>183545263
I don't think there's really an antonym to chaos. It's a very specific thing
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>>183545324
Even worse than North Korea.
Kim Jong Un can't hear you badmouthing if nobody reports you.
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>>183545324
Pretty much, except for the starving and corrupt government and poor living conditions... So no.
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>>183544957
Agreed. Every time I read Nelis I imagine Neris with Ellis's (From L4D2) personality.

>"Hey Nero, did I ever tell ya about that one time I tried to take our not-time-daddy out on a date but that bitch Allice/Illias got in the way?"
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>>183545390
Yin (Yang), Yang (Yin), this world is stitched from a ballet of opposing forces.
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>>183545324
Nah you would be better situation than living in dirt hut
But even North Korea is better than being transformed with dark magic into monstrosity designated to absorb water from air
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>>183544957
well I had to get use to holo instead of horo
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>>183545579
Yeah but chaos is basically "those opposing forces combined"

So it's like combining Yin and Yang into one and then asking what's the opposite of that. That's a hard question
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>>183545637
Just because you fall under peer pressure doesn't mean everyone else does too
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Is it possible to look at the CG's for Paradox part 2 without actually playing through the god awful game that is paradox?
I did it with 1 and was disappointed
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>>183545667
Void
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>>183545728
>fall under peer pressure
I uh dont understand where that came from.
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>>183544958
I want Saja to wrap me up with her tail and cover me with her wings so that there's nobody in the world but us. Because Saja is my world!
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>>183545776
I think chaos also technically includes void though.

There's no need to think of an opposite for it. It's basically "everything including nothing" It is its own opposite
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>>183545736
exhentai
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>>183545843
>I think chaos also technically includes void though.
well thats dumb,
a void of nothingness is representation of order at its most extreme.
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>>183545324
>>183545434
Not really, no. The angels aren't oppressing and taking advantage of you for their own benefit while you live in squalor. They're directing your life for you so that you'll always be at your best and happiest.
The main point to remember is that they actually DO know how people will be at their happiest. They're not just bullshitting you. You live extremely comfortably but lose all choice.

Monsters on the other hand give you all the freedom and choices you want. With all the bad that comes with it as some people will end up more "free" than others.
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>>183546046
>illiasathercomputer.png
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>>183546046
I like having the choice when it comes to what I fap to. And you're telling me I won't even have that ?
Go monsters, all hail Alice !
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>>183544958
Lets see, choosing Iliasland where it looks pretty pleasant.
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>>183546046
What about that one NPC in the angel world from the village south of Sabasa?
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>>183546216
You won't have a choice in Alice World either, since you'll likely be dead.
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>>183546302
I'm already dead inside
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>>183546232
>Holes everywhere
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>>183546232
Or Aliceland, where it looks like a raging hellhole.
Decisions, decisions.
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>>183544958
From their perspective.
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>>183546232
>tfw you're a little too drunk a Saturday night and you slip from the edge of the floating island where you live
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>>183546232
>>183546404
>he can't tell that their just as shit but the Angel world hides it with white and blue
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>>183546592
par for the course for a brainless iliascuck
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>>183546591
Nah if you're too drunk you'll probably get taken care of before that happens anyway
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>>183546259
It's not a perfect system. Some people won't be able take it. That guy was a trap set up by Saya anyways. Why would some random guy just start losing his shit to Luka?

>>183546216
You won't have the choice regardless since you'll be too busy getting filled by slug and dragon dicks expressing their freedom.

>>183546592
Yeah man, who needs plants, water, and livable temperatures? The angels are just as bad.
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>>183546591
>Implying Ilias world would allow you to waste your talent by drinking alcoholic beverages.
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>>183546591
>>>>>>>>>>>fun
>in angel world
sounds heretical
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>>183546592
Unless those clouds are toxic or someshit I'd rather live in Angel World rather than have a chance at being turned into magic splooge or melted in lava after some asshole decides he wants to push me off a cliff.
>>183546795
Maybe being drunk is the only thing he's good at. There was that guy who's purpose in life was talking to trees after all.
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>>183546901
>who needs plants, water, and livable temperatures
Not the Angels and with the 4 spirits dead no wonder it's like that
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>>183545736
Kill yourself
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>>183547034
>Unless those clouds are toxic
Looking at luka in the VN yes very and their roads going though the red so it's not lava just like the blue isn't water on the Angel map
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>>183546404
>>183546232
Do we have a closer image of these worlds?
Ilias world looks like it's nothing but snow and forests. And Alice world doesn't look like it has any arable lands whatsoever, outside of some forests.
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>>183547059
>implying Illias didn't build some sort of Nazi concentration camp where she keeps all the important monsters that are needed for the world to be stable
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>>183547059
Even if they need to use magic to create basic stuff like water and food humans are still better off in angel world since angels can survive only on holy power
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>>183547263
Just zoom in on a iPad or something
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>>183547059
Speaking of the spirits I went through their homes in MonWorld and they're a lot bigger and have a lot more obvious "you fight a boss here" areas.
>>183547254
Sorry but you're wrong.
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Jingai Modoki should have redesigned the heavenly knights, not Hackazawa Red.
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>>183547059
Bitch we don't need Undine we got this
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>>183547059
Angels have Promestein. They'll be okay...
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>>183547604
>Hating on the sick orange fanta water the monster lord has given us
You deserve to be an angel slave
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>>183547404
>implying Illias would suffer the presence of monsters in her perfect world.

The locations where their power gathers are gone in Illias world they were wiped out and since it happened in the great monster war of that world the mass produced spirits won't have been made yet. Nature in angel world is fucked.
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>>183547794
Yeah a whole load of carbonated drink that was out in open for years
I would prefer fucking lava
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>>183547724
Looks pretty nice, might be boring, but looks nice.
>>183547604
Seriously, most of the world is dead charcoal fields, not even the most depraved monsters from the paradox world would want to jump into this shithole.
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>>183547604
What the blue thing on the Angel map marked as?also for the bosses I guess in order of chance
>ancestors
>new ancient monsters
>evil spirits
>evil version of the Knights
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>>183547724
Illas piss?
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>>183547996
so why did it end like this?
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>>183548005
The blue in Angel World is just part the background like the purple mess in Monster World.
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Angel and Monster world can go fuck themselves ,Paradox Luka's world seems awesome, Succubus Village has a designated rape alley yet all the succubi living there don't like non-consensual sex so the rape is more like role play. IIias village has nice slime girls and tons of adventures and monsters living there, the interlopers from the other two worlds seem to be fucking up paradox luka's world more making the chaos go faster, nobody told them to dry fish the kraken, that shit never happened in the original. plus this world has battlefucking,
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>>183547059
>he forgot about the artificial spirits
Yet another person who may not even have played the VN
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>>183548173
Well you see evolving things with Holy magic requires a bit more investment than creating them with Dark magic
I honestly wouldn't be surprised if first Alice has fucked off to some other planet after fucking up that one
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>>183548461
>Well you see evolving things with Holy magic requires a bit more investment than creating them with Dark magic
elaborate
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>>183548448
Do you think this Promestein is enjoying the shit out of these adventures? How the fuck do you fuck up an experiment that leaves you super horny and unable to stop sexing the shota?
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>>183548449
Weren't the artificial spirits just used for powerups? I remember they sealed the spirits to avoid the backlash their deaths would cause.
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>>183548449
See
>>183547964
Also the fake spirits didn't even work in the VN otherwise they wouldn't of sealed the spirits
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>>183548591
Don't reply the guy may of not even read the VN
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>>183548554
Definitely. She smiles a lot and seems happy to be there. And she very likely was fully aware of what the experiment would result in. She's Promestein.
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>>183548591
According to Sacred and Profane, Promestein was going to replace the spirits with their artificial counterparts.
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>>183548538
Holy magic deals with spiritual and dark one with physical
For example the trick where Alice realizes Replicant is mostly human probably comes from that and I wouldn't be surprised if all that transforming Lily does is too
Holy meanwhile has to guide evolution roughly at pace that it implies
There's reason Ilias wanted that dark power and it's not to become closer to first Alice
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How come you plebs defend Paradox?
It's literally just regurgitated garbage and asset flipping and being another unwarranted generic final fantasy clone.
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>>183491064
I love you, Voreanon! Here is your (you)! Sorry I'm late
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>>183548825
>According to Sacred and Profane
and that is?
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>>183548850
see thats the thing,
if they are opposites, how did alice's creations gain souls if she has no affect on the spirit?
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>>183548865
Why are you even here?
>>
>>183548865
>>183548825
What kind of person would be a dedicated shitposter for a small community centered around fetish porn games?
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>>183548825
According to Sacred and Profane, a musket fired by a random grunt could kill a monster lord.
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>>183548960
That's simple
She took animal
And then twisted it into mockery of both animal and human
Also don't constructs have souls too in this setting or I am misremembering it?
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>>183548825
>>183549045
At this point I can't even tell if it's just shitposting or actually real
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>>183549175
I'm just wondering if there is a half truth to illias saying she created monsters in the VN.
>>
do not respond to the obsessed freak
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>>183549045
but the game mechanics DO allow you to do that.
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>>183549226
The second one was tongue-in-cheek.
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>>183549035
Probably some sick fuck who prays to monster lords and not to ilias.
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>>183549226
According to Sacred and Profane Edge and austim are the most powerful forces in the universe
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>>183549345
I remember the musket shitstorm, anon.
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It it strange that I think it'd be hot if there were an h scene of an angel or a succubus and when they're at the height of their pleasure their wings unfold and they start going harder and faster?
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According to Sacred and Profane Paradox isn't cannon it's completely irrelevant.
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The only thing Sacred and Profane proves is how shitty a writer edgy is.
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>>183548825
More like according to the game itself

>It’s believed that Promestein’s fake spirits were also intended to eventually replace the original Four Great Spirits, enabling them to be killed.”

From Undine 2's monsterpedia entry

Also just because the fake spirits weren't originally created until much later, that doesn't mean they can't just decide to create them sooner in that timeline out of necessity.

>>183548960
It's not one can only do the other, it's one is more suited for the other. Ilias later dabbled in genome shit and Alice 1st also took Ilias's soul technique thingy and started using it

The other side is just much better at it.
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>>183549430
I think that one's actually canon.
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>>183548960
Who said animals don't have souls?
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>>183549616
>Still not unbelted
Goddamnit, how powerful is he gonna be ?
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>>183549648
that one priest in my church when I was 7 and asked about my dead dog.
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>>183549045
>be random grunt
>max out your dex by devouring whimsical seeds
>equip musket+++
>slam the monster lord and those who beget the ludicrous notion of dex as a useless stat

You might not like it but it checks out.
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Isn't there a tower on the angel world map anyways?
Maybe they just sealed the spirits?
Maybe Illias has them imprisoned somewhere and designed futa angels to watch over them
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>>183549597
Although now that I think about it.

Alice probably can do the soul shit on such a large scale because she totally absorbed Ilias after beating her down. I just know it
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>>183548724
*have
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>>183549597
still if alice can corrrupt physical forms, can't illias corrupt their souls?
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>>183549749
>Stack seeds until you get 9999 dex
>Shoot monster lord
>Do >1% of her health because you have no damage boosting abilities and you don't know any good skills
>Realize that Humans are a shitty dex race and you wasted your time from the get go

Doesn't really check out at all senpai
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>>183550082
Though going by that, Ilias probably found a way to absorb Alice too.

I mean they're going to reuse Ilias's final form somehow and it's not like there's any other occasion where it would really fit I don't think
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>>183550353
if lolias and loli alice fusion ha'd to defeat and enemy maybey?
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>>183549616
>Chaos Alice: "Even if you stop time, you'll never be faster than someone who controls all of time itself!"
>Nero: "You're right. I guess it's over..."
>Chaos Alice: "Fufufu..."
>Nero: "...I can no longer hold back..."
>Chaos Alice: "Ehhhh?"
>Nero: "Prepare to see a speed faster than Time itself!"
>unclasps the leg belt, speedblitzes and one-shots Chaos Alice
>Chaos Alice: "This speed, faster than time, impossible, I can't d-....."
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>>183550505
They can't perform the fusion dance. Alice can't position her legs properly.
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>>183550175
Isn't that what she did to Heinrich in the Sinner's Prison?
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Why can't there be a world full of Angel Soldiers and weak monsters like Dog Girls?
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>>183551773
in the MGE dog girls are even tolerated in the typically anti monster controlled order lands.
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>>183552039
cute
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>>183550576
>deja-vu.ogg
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>polar beartaur you recruit is named knut
thats adorable
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>>183544274
>Where the fuck was Granberia? You'd think she'd be itching to test herself against a seemingly unstoppable army
Sitting apprehensively in the Monster Lord's Castle as Alice 15th prepared her genocidal war declaration.
And what do you mean "two of"? It's just the Two Heavenly Knights now. Alma Elma and Tamamo revolted, which is why they're at the feast.
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>>183552039
While that is nice, does that mean before in MGE they had monster dogs as pets?
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>>183553137
Trained hunting monster dogs, perhaps.
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>>183553137
>does that mean before in MGE they had monster dogs as pets?
I'm pretty sure they were just normal dogs before the demon energy bs
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>>183552967
Man, I'd imagine Ereubetie and Granberia to first to defect first before Tamamo, I know Alice's mom is doing this because someone told her to do it because reenacting events of the true history would save her species and Luka daddy likely killed her because true history said he did. I wonder how Luka and Alice's relationship will change in her route in part 3, after all, if they know what they have to do then not only does Luka's dad have to die to Lazarus somehow, Merlin has to be killed by Alice. I honestly get the feeling Alice will get her power back and we'll have to fight her in both routes, as for IIias in Alice's route, she's harmless she'll probably be completely left in the dark right up until the last minute
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>>183553623
Granberia is like classic warrior type. She's follow out of obligation/loyalty

Erubetie, I don't know who cares
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Could any of the girls in Paradox beat Supes?
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>>183553623
Alma is the obvious first to defect, she's flaky at best. I would place Betty 2nd, and Granberry last, so I guess Tamamo is Edend.

I'd assume we'll be fighting full power Ilias in Ilias-land and Alice 1st in Alice-land, though maybe there's an evil Alice 16th in Alice-land too.
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>>183553769
>Erubetie, I don't know who cares
The monster world probably cares about her 10000 souls. Other than that, probably no one.
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>>183553912
Shingami can literally erase people from existence, and she's not the only one. Soooo... yes.
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>>183553912
yes cause magic
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>>183553912
Supes struggles with magic and reality warping.
Mental attacks too depending on which iteration.
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>>183552967
Now that I think about it, why are they the Heavenly Knights in the first place?
It was only because the Alice's mom died, a battle royal was set for the new lord, and they swore loyalty to the current Alice that the organization was even established.
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>>183554141
>>183554204
ok ,
then
superman prime
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>>183554224
Because her mom went missing for so long everyone thought she died.
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>>183554224
Huh, you're right, Alice 15th didn't die here so no battle royal as needed, in fact, if it were a monster lord thing for them to have 4 knights Alice should have had 3 of her own including Tamamo as apparently she's always been a knight to monster lords, Erubetie,Alma Elma and Granberia should have been where they were prior, Alma being flighty and being wherever, Granberia running around fighting random strongs and Ereubetie in Undine's cave, especially since in here she; wouldn't grow angry, bitter and cynical. I guess it's a plot hole or they ere too lazy to write and design new knights
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>>183554224
Died or disappeared in the Tartarus, same thing as far as they're concerned. The Monster Lord is officially considered dead or to have abdicated if they're missing for over a year.
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>>183554487
>Alice 15th didn't die here so no battle royal as needed
She went missing it's the same shit use your head
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>>183554252
He still has no defense against magic he can't/won't overcome that.
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>Alice 15th fell into monster world tartarus.

>Monster World has no way of sending people over without killing them and merging them with version of themselves on the other side.

>Alice 15th crossed over so there was no version of her in the Paradox world

How did she come back? Same way she went I guess? That's convenient
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>>183554826
which one was immune to magic and kryptonite?
I know one of them was like that
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At the rate Paradox is going we are probably going to be seeing some huge ass bloodline tree for Luka. Plus Alice I bloodlines since they literally have a lot of Alices.
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>>183554958
The asspull one
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>>183554983
>we are probably going to be seeing some huge ass bloodline tree for Luka.
Allready done
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>>183555297
Jesus that's fast man I must have missed it.
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>>183554252
I never understood why people always use prime for power level wankery. He hardly did anything.
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>>183554958
A Superman without weakness can't lose. He can lift infinite weight, move faster than the speed of light, and take no damage from being in the center of a red sun. Using that is like making a bet that normal person will die when thrown in lava.
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>>183553912
Maybe Supes is weak to pleasure attacks like Luka.
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So what combo platter of races will each of the Six Ancestors come with? Will be there be any attempt to balance poor old Kanon and Kanade who are limited to just Plant and Slime?
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Is Sara the most succ that ever succ'd succ?
>succubus
>maid (vacuums succ, like the maid succubus)
>now can also be vampire
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>>183555297
You mean this one?
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>>183554881
She caught a ride back on the Marcellus taxi

>Marcellus: I've come to collect my fare
>Alice 15: Alright, what do I owe you?
>Marcellus: ...
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>>183556284
>La Croix comes to visit
>Alice Route involves fighting her dead mom again
Just like White Rabbit and Reaper Onee-chan planned
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>>183556103
All of them will have succubi
>Will be there be any attempt to balance poor old Kanon and Kanade who are limited to just Plant and Slime?
Those two will have traits that make digestion and binds always work.
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>>183555920
>A Superman without weakness can't lose.
no you just got to be creative,
I remember a comic about a guy that was basically superman with no weaknesses,
some aliens still subdued him with technology, basically restrained him with a stray jacket made of his own cloned skin, he was 100% invulnerable, but so was that skin stray jacket.
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>>183556197
Oh shit the Japs sure worked hard this bloodline chart.
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>>183556103
I imagine the last race involved in all of their respective race lines in the data files will be _____ Ancestor or something of the like and it'll be even more broken than the Queen races.
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>>183546592
Nah. The point is that, in exchange for freedom, there's no hardship for everyone on Angel World.

Monster World flips this. Hardship for everyone, but you have the FREEDOM to rise to the top and live better than everyone else. More INTERESTING.
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>>183556815
And then everyone can become an ancestor

Was going to say how weird that is but I guess it's not much weirder than having 30 different queens running around
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>>183556643
Yeah but how do you cut the shape of a straitjacket into indestructible skin? It's a sort of paradox about the strongest material being made into armor; the tools always have to be made of a stronger material than the armor.
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>>183556815
Yeah, but it won't look as cool on their race list.
For example, Saja will have all Lamia, Harpy, and Dragon subraces maxed out before capping it off with the Ancestor one. That's at least 24 or so different races under her belt.
Meanwhile, Kanade will only have 9.
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>>183557169
im sure if they cloned it they induced it to grow into the shape they wannted.
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>>183551773
>Polar Bear Girls are the only tolerated monster girls on Angel World
Y/N?
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>>183556469
I'd actually bet we DO have to deal with Zombie 15th.
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Help.
Why this happen when I try to run paradox part 1
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>>183557628
I'd rename your file folder for starters...
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>>183557570
>Those Kagetsumugis with different eyes
>That puppet bird that reacts with her
I wonder what's going on here.
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>>183557287
The race itself will be too good. It's the ancestor of one of the two races with carnivorous on the name.
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>>183557628
Japanese locale my man.
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>>183558058
>not in Part 2
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>>183558384
Damn it TT.
That's blatant false advertising.
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Paradox has a fuck ton of unresolved plot threads and TT is still introducing more. How the fuck are we going to get through all of this in one game?
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>>183559196
Dumping them all at the end.
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>>183559416
N-no. Paradox Part 3 is going to be a 100 hour masterpiece and Torotoro is going to give each girl her own ending.
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>>183559823
>give each girl her own ending.
Would they even need to give Eater or Pitcher Plant their own endings? Or you mean after they leave Luka?
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>The Monster Lord would never die in on...
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>>183560552
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>>183556197
>The princess of Remina just uses one of the generic RPG Maker stock characters

Damn you'd think someone that important would be made to look a little more unique, but I guess they really just see her as the bitch lucky enough to be knocked up by heinrich.
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>>183562153
Yeah but think of it like this. If they gave art to the princess of Remina then they'd have to show Heinrich fucking her. Poor Not Black Alice.
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>>183562301
You say that as if we'll get H-scenes of anyone other than Luka
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>>183562301
>then they'd have to show Heinrich fucking her
Don't you mean that they have to show that Luka is his own ancestor?
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>>183562456
Well, in the VN, that did actually happen multiple times in Part 3
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>>183544958
Please take me Mistress Saja!
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>>183562505
So the delta brainwave is what enables him to cross dimensions so easily?
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>>183562153
She isn't really that important though. She just exists to be fucked by Heinrich, help in the production of Luka, and piss Black Alice off. She doesn't really matter as a person
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>>183562616
When I finished part 1 I was honest to god expecting this to be the explanation lol
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Anyone know if Dargoth's patch works with 2.10?
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>>183547978
>I would prefer fucking lava
Good taste, Lava Girl is waifu!
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>>183562519
Like this one with this Elf.
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>>183562456
>>183562505
Jesus guys you really want Paradox Luka to surpass all incest. Well in a way it can actually work towards Paradox Luka If you think about the Grandfather paradox thing. But damn that would be fucked up.
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>>183563994
Thanks. That was my favorite Not Luka scene despite my jealousy.
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>>183490098
>Alice tells a heavenly knight, somebody who only answers to the monster lord, to fuck off and she does it the absolute madwomen.
>implying this wasn't a big red flag as to who she was.
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>>183549430
>implying weaponized autism isn't the WMD of the information age
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>>183565429
>Wow, what an idiot hero! How stupid does someone have to be to not notice they're travelling with the Monster Lord when their quest is to kill the Monster Lord?!
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>>183566382
It seems to be the ENTIRE male line of Lukas family, with exception of Marcellus, is really fucking oblivious. Luka didn't even expect to be raped when accepting a Spar/Match/Talk of "SWEATY, STICKY COEXISTANCE."

On the Comic Scale of density, Luka somehow manages to be denser than a fucking black hole. Not to mention Heinrich who can't see that: A.) Theres a fucking ML traveling with him, and B.) Can't see that she seems to really want him.

I say, these men actually NEED to be raped to reproduce as they cant take a fucking hint.
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>>183566603
>Luka didn't even expect to be raped when accepting a Spar/Match/Talk of "SWEATY, STICKY COEXISTANCE."
TT said in Q&A Luka knew he was going to get sexed.
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>>183566871
Well shit.

He's still pretty just not nearly as dense as i thought.
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>>183566871
>TT said in Q&A Luka knew he was going to get sexed
So TTR meant to tell me was that Luka was willing to get raped. Okay now I didn't expect that now I thought the Luka I know was Shiro dense levels instead of Luka talking about swords he's actually talking about coexistence.
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Guess ill ask again. Has anyone here tried 2.1 with the dargoth patch? Does it work with it?
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>>183567469
Yes, and as far as i can try to get it to work it does not.
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>>183567489

Damn, doubt a hotfix will be coming anytime soon.
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Tally hoe you fudgesicles
ilias is you god
and you better pray to ilias
otherwise you'll probably be in the 99.9% chance of dying by monster grills
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>>183568567
Can't I pray to Alice instead?
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>>183568796
no she's a monster lord she probably slips you the tentacle & butt hole while your sleeping to persuade your choice.
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>>183568857
Fucking hot
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>>183568978
no dude thats disgusting you filthy degenerate heathen! what the fuck is wrong with you?
you shit from there that's a one way pipe not a two way street.

i hope ilias smites you for your repulsive behavior.
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>>183569134
>i hope ilias smites you for your repulsive behavior.
Can she smite me with her piss?
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>>183569134
Whatever you say, pissdrinker.
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So the Snow Haven incident with Lucifina-chan and Eden is... interesting.

>Group with Eden arrives in Snow Haven
>Suddenly a house is destroyed by a large explosion
>The culprit is Lucifina-chan
>Eden is furious that Lucy destroyed an angel's house
>Lucy-chan nonchallantly dismisses Eden because the house wasn't empty, she didn't even kill anyone
>This triggers a flashback in Eden
>Eden arrives in Iliasville to ask Lucifina to return to Heavens
>Eden's arrival destroys someone's house, currently empty, and repeatly asserts that it's no big deal, and Ilias could always manifest a new house
>Lucifina is furious with Eden and slaps the shit out of her, because it shows no care or consideration for the time and materials and effort that went into building it
>Back in the present, Lucy-chan asks if Eden understands now
>Eden does and so they rebuild the house together


Achievement is named something like "Do you understand now?"
What makes this stand out is that it means Lucy-chan might have at least some of Lucifina's memories, even from after her fall.
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>>183569402
>>183569481
Unreal the level of repugnance you savages display is like some morbid badge of honor.
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>>183569527
Could Lucy-chan still be so smug if someone pinched her cheeks?
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>>183569527

>She has memories of her past self
>She still rapes Luka
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>>183569732
I thought she's the Lucifina from the angel world.
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>>183569874
She could, technically, be both. As Lucifina fell in both worlds she is a Fallen Angel, but what would be weird is if Michaela from the angel world DIDN'T hunt down Lucifina. And we know exactly how Fallen Angels are perceived in Angel society (Really bad) why wouldn't they hunt her down?
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>>183570003
Isn't Lucifina the leader of the Fallen Angels and made the Angel Halo? They killed 666 Angels at least.
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>>183569874
No, Lucy-chan and Micaela(-chan) are recreated fresh where they were originally created, by Ilias with Eden's assistance. They're not supposed to have any memories of the originals.

I may have misread the Snow Haven incident a little bit, mistaking the achievement name for something Lucy said, but it really seems like Lucy intentionally schemed the entire scenario out just to give Eden some perspective, especially since Angels are now landbound and have to live without Ilias manifesting things, like the Humans Eden had disrespected previously.

>>183569732
And this was the interesting implication, if she specifically has post-fall memories.
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>>183569874
>>183570003
Wait, why or how could she be from Angel World.

Where does that idea even come from
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>>183570158
Yeah, I don't know where that misconception comes from.

That said, I'm sure we'll be dealing with at least an evil Micaela, and probably Lucifina, in the Angel world. We know Micaela's still a Seraph there, but we don't know anything about Angel World Lucifina.
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>>183570260
>We know Micaela's still a Seraph there, but we don't know anything about Angel World Lucifina.
Michaela in the Angel world is an Archangel, specifically the leader of the Seven Archangels (She was promoted to that position). Lucifina is specifically told to have fallen in that world due to her being forced to kill so many, and Lolifina's really, really unnerving obsession with murder isn't like how Lucifina was told to be like, she was mentioned to specifically hesitate while fighting the Ancestors letting them get away.

Lolifina is simply too murdersome to be Lucifina as we've been told about her.
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>>183570439
>Lolifina's really, really unnerving obsession with murder isn't like how Lucifina was told to be like, she was mentioned to specifically hesitate while fighting the Ancestors letting them get away.
>Lolifina is simply too murdersome to be Lucifina as we've been told about her.

Actually both Eden and Ilias mention how unhinged Lucifina was and that when she settled down with Marcellus, they couldn't believe it was the same person.

So she's apparently not exactly a saint in any world, originally
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>>183570556
>Actually both Eden and Ilias mention how unhinged Lucifina was and that when she settled down with Marcellus, they couldn't believe it was the same person.
Where was that said? I remember her questioning Ilias's sanity since the start of the great monster wars and that doesn't explained why she basically allowed the Ancestors to escape from her.
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>>183569874
WHY would you even think that? The first time I saw this, it just seemed like it came out of nowhere for no reason. There's no logical flow to how this theory came about and no one has ever bothered to explain it.

>>183570146
Lucifina-chan does ask Eden if she gets it "now".
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>>183570825
I always assume my memory is faulty at times, happy to see it wasn't in this case.

What that means for riding Luka until her belly bulges with his seed... well that's something else.

Of course, it also makes her murderous demeanor even weirder since she apparently has memories from after settling down, AND a desire to instill a positive respect for not-destroying things.

Lucy-chan is seriously bipolar here.
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This place is filled with machine translations, headcanon and assumptions.
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>>183570815
My bad, it was Promestein and Ilias. It's during one of the camp scenes where Promestein decribes the Archangels of her world.

Now it's my turn to ask where are you getting this stuff about Lucifina allowing an ancestor to escape from because I don't remember that either.
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>>183571012
Lucy-chan is seriously DEPRAVED. She might only have some of her memories but if she did remember everything then that means she remembers settling down with Marcellus and having Luka and raising him as his father went out to save the multiverse. And then she procedes to rape her son and tell him he may have impregnated her.
>>183571114
Welcome to not being able to read Jap, some people thought that Alma was Luka's mother due to machine-translations (and it was funny).

Though it seems the truth is actually that his mother was someone even more lewd than the QUEEN FUCKING SUCCUBUS!
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>>183571184
>Now it's my turn to ask where are you getting this stuff about Lucifina allowing an ancestor to escape from because I don't remember that either.

Part 3 when Michaela starts explaining to Luka about his ancestors and everything. Lucifina was noticable for being able to beat every Ancestor but could never actually kill them because she would hesitate to do so.

I guess i must have missed that campfire scene then.
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>>183571194
But she doesn't remember having Luka as her son.
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>>183571451
We don't know that all we know is that she has memories from her past, we dont know how many. And she does know Luka is her son, and proceeds to rape him anyway, quite viciously, while also telling him to cum inside "mommy." Either way Lolifina is quite lewd, perverted and into handholding.
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>>183571184
>It's during one of the camp scenes where Promestein decribes the Archangels of her world.
What does she say about them besides them having their own areas
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>this thread
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>>183571631
>And she does know Luka is her son
That's because Luka tells her that.
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>>183571371
>Part 3 when Michaela starts explaining to Luka about his ancestors and everything

The only part 3 Michaela part that comes to mind is when you go there and she explains how Ilias and Alice 1 came to be and such and it's not in that conversation. Is there another portion of the game I'm forgetting?
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>>183571808
But she knows either way, and both ways you look at it shes willingly enforcing incest with her own son and enjoying it. She's also proven to have at the least some of her memories after she fell, we just dont know how many she has.
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>>183571728
The two great seraph
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>>183571964
>But she knows either way
Post screenshot of her saying this.
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>>183571964
This Lucifina never gave birth to anyone, of course she wouldn't see incest as that troublesome. How in the fuck would Luka be her son if she was never pregnant?
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>>183572063
this image triggers me
fucked up aspect ratios, poor quality, no real sense behind image positions
Also it lacks their smol paradox versions
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>>183571114
Not me. I don't know what shit machine translators some of these anons used, but everything I get is perfectly legible except for the bee soldiers' dialogue. It boggles my mind to see the kind of confusing text some anons here share.
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>>183571012
Honestly, just like how Lucifina showed up to cheer you on in the final battle against Ilias in the VN if you lose, I'm betting Lucifina's spirit was just capable of possessing Lucifina-chan who's essentially her clone.

Probably something similar to the soul merge the Lilith Sisters used to travel to Paradox World, except she's capable of keeping their egos separate and isn't completely merging with Lucifina-chan.
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>>183571012
>>183572676
That is to say, Lucifina's soul is actually watching over everything from afar and she just took the chance to try and give Eden a lesson.
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>>183571890
I'm just remembering wrong because i'm playing through it again and no, she doesn't say it.

My fault.
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>>183572742
>Lucifina's soul is actually watching over everything from afar
That really does not change feelings about the h-scene.
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>>183573428
She saw Nero and neris and decided even incest grandkids is better than this
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>>183573525
Wait, if Lolifina does have a child with Luka is that child her grandson or son? And would Lukas+Lolichaela's children be nieces/nephews or grandchildren?

Why is there so much more incest in paradox?
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>>183483948
What does 2.1 add?
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>>183573525
>even incest grandkids is better than this
No wonder she's a bipolar retard
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>>183573757
Reworked CG for Awawa and Mandragora
New scene for xelvy scylla maid
Recruitable Alma with 3 scenes
recruitable part2 BFs and you can BF at castle
A bunch of game balance fixes
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Speaking of recruitable part2 BFs, are they strong?
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>>183573871
Reworked how? The rest sound good though, do the BFs have those extra scenes yet?
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>>183573738
Yeah a lot of people want Paradox Luka to do a lot of incestous things with the bloodlines of his family. Hell people are still betting that oh better not spoil that shit. Point is there are a lot of family members and there's probably going to be more.
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>>183574669
reworked as in he draws new pictures to replace the old ones
>>183483560
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>>183575128
>Point is there are a lot of family members and there's probably going to be more.
>Paradox Lukas 100+ wives

Thats an understatement he's going to have a fucking army of children after this.
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>>183575190
I mean, the old pictures are still there in the folder, but the scenes have been replaced with the new pictures.
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>>183575242
>Thats an understatement he's going to have a fucking army of children after this.

Yeah at this rate it might as well be a war on both sides of the faction of angel world and monster world If Paradox Luka keeps literally fucking around with girls.
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>>183575719
>Children of paradox Luka vs Angel and Monster worlds

Considering how he might just also impregnate a few archangels and maybe an ancestor or four they might actually lose pretty hard.

Not to mention the fact that hes now both a fusion of Light and Dark energys through his angelic heritage and Lolisteins great experiments.
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>>183575837
>Considering how he might just also impregnate a few archangels and maybe an ancestor or four they might actually lose pretty hard.
>Not to mention the fact that hes now both a fusion of Light and Dark energys through his angelic heritage and Lolisteins great experiments.

Paradox Luka is becoming a super solider. Let's hope he doesn't go full metal gear.
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>>183569527
>Achievement is named something like "Do you understand now?"
Damn, japs really likes their JoJo references
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hWKB1Zxg84s
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I see this general ofter talk about Weapon Mastery abilities, but what are they exactly? Are those the "+10% Attack if wielding x weapon" skills?
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>>183576336
Mastery increases the stats provided by that type of weapon.
This now stacks with Dual Wielding.
I believe a job's passive Mastery also stacks with the equippable Mastery (usually from mastering that job)
>>183532869

So yeah, that's a thing.
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>>183576904
I see how does that work with Swords, Knight Swords, Greatswords, Katana, and so on? Does for example a Sword +15% boost all of them or only standard Swords? What about the skills? Will Luka's Sword skills have the same power no matter if he uses any of those swords? Or can he only use the standard type of sword without losing power? I seem to be recruiting lots of characters that seem to have Sword Mastery but always come equipped with Knight Swords.
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What makes Queen Elf so OP compared to all the other elves?
She is literally the ugliest one for me and her sex scene is boring.
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>>183577078
The Booster (and High Booster 30%) are a different type of passive.
Anyway, that's a lot of background details I cannot answer on. I believe Knight Swords count in the same category as normal Swords, but Ninja Swords have their own category.
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>>183577159
Queen Elf (the race I believe) apparently comes with another level of stacking damage booster of some kind with Bows.
So you give her my Lucy-chan setup of dual-wielding Artemis Bows and she'd probably do stupid damage, maybe even one-shotting LOC superbosses with the right Slayer buff?
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>>183577219
Oh, alright thank you. Do you know a couple of advanced job that learn the mastery skills, so I can check them and test for myself?
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>>183577295
It seems like everything that has a Mastery in its passives also teaches it at level 10, more or less. I believe the very first advanced job in the list teaches Sword Mastery, probably something you'd do for Luka regardless.
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>>183575190
Are the replacements generally better? Now I'm curious, I should check the oldies...
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>>183577159
>Ugly

You have trash can taste
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>>183544958
I'd rather >>183570260 than >>183542487 . Dunno how much of that is down to Shiki's meh designs for some of them.
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>>183577949
Yeah
Page 17 was just an edit of her portrait, now she has a normal CG and looks pretty cute

I wish UN_DO would also remake some of his old girls
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>>183546216
Coexistence always wins in the end, stupid piss-stained barfangels BTFO forever.
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>>183578317
>Coexistence
is that what you call it?
Coexistence like in the ancestors world?
You monster apologist really are blind
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>>183578317
I am actually wondering if TT will even let us choose neutral coexistence route, given how combination of light and dark creates apoptosis
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>>183578450
Upboated xD
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>>183578464
Combination of light and dark creates best girl
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>>183578815
I am still convinced that's Karen
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>>183578815
>you will never impregnate Adramelech
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>>183578947
Well there is still her daughter
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>>183577415
Does anyone have a list of Advanced Jobs and their prerequisites?
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>>183578947
not with that attitude
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>>183579246
Adramalech+Sonya threesome when?
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>>183577159
>Elf Ugly
Is such a thing possible?
Aren't Elves and vampire just human women but better?
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>>183546901
So it's a perfect system that works for everyone, except when it isn't and doesn't. Just like Communism!
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>>183581128
Watch your step comrade wouldn't what to get hit by a random traveling lightning bolt
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>>183578947
>>183579014
>Sonya, your fucking childhood best friend, is actually your daughter
FUCK NO SHIT
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>>183581327
>FUCK! NO, SHIT!
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>>183581128
LITERALLY EVERYONE IS HAPPY IN THIS WORLD, SEE?
>guy who isn't happy gets killed instantly

Everyone is happy! There's no such thing as unhappy in this world! Do you see anyone being unhappy?

I SURE AS HELL DON'T
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>>183581547
I still don't get to chose what I fap to, not worth it.
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>>183581327
>>183581517
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>>183578815
>>183578947
This Adramelech is cute.

>>183579246
This one is really fucking shit.
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>>183581547
>>183581694
In one universe you will be subjected to constant forced "happiness" and if you're depressive you're automatically killed off meanwhile in the other we don't know we haven't seen jack shit of it.

Truth be told i like being depressed than in a fake "Happiness" and hazards like sudden lightning death syndrome.
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>>183581694
Fap? why brother?
Lady Iliad would gladly give you an Angel bride or find your destined human wife.
why fap when you can do the real thing?
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>>183582257
Some of us aren't here for Humans-Humans with wings. Amazingly some of us here like a bit more monster in our girl and a lot less total abominations.
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>>183582257
>Lady Illias would gladly give you an Angel bride
Yeah, right, somehow, I doubt that very much

>find your destined human wife.
Eww, human girls are icky. No human girls allowed.
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>>183582364
...
....
I'm at a loss of words honestly
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>>183582474
just bully a valkyrie and get your 10000 year punishment of sex
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>>183582482
Yes Ilias i know we're degerates who love HANDHOLDING and some of us would even like to FIND LOVE NATURALLY.

Strange concepts i know but its the truth.
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>>183581694

Why not have Undine absorb everyone and put their consciousness in a state of permanent bliss?
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>>183582587
You'd probably get smited before having the opportunity to do that, though.
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>>183582751
Fucking vorefags if there's anybody that deserves to die it should e you fucks!!
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>>183582843
You don't die, though.
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>>183582878
You dumb motherfucker I hope you get eaten alive so you can finally get off to your shit fetish
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>>183582976
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So, is there any advantage to training Luka as a Vampire other than maybe going into Kunoichi Nightmare for the dual-wield passive?
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>>183582004
No, you're not killed for being depressed, anon. That flower shop girl is proof of that. You're killed if you SHOW any dissent at all because, obviously, that guy who got killed didn't just suddenly start having misgivings about his situation while being completely fine with it the entire time just moments before getting struck by lightning.

If you're depressed and unsatisfied in that world, go and pray to Ilias to help you through that shit or something. Maybe she'll send an angel to fuck your brains out.
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>>183583192
You're not fooling anyone, commie.
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>>183583192
I'm not sure about all this, but if she really do that, it may be a lot more bearable.
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>>183583192
I find it amazing how someone who knows so little about the game can speak with such authority on it. Read the VN.
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>>183583304
Meh he's just spouting headcanon, I'm glad Luka wouldn't want any of that shit.
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>>183583167
I'd tell you to eat shit but becoming literally shit is the point of vore anyway. Just go.
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>>183583192
Whats the difference between the two? If one is depressed at their situation that Ilias herself choose that would be dissent as the people are forced into whatever suits them best, even if its something they desperately hate.

There is no difference between the two, either way you say that you don't like what Ilias is doing!
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>>183583304
You go play Paradox.

If you're questioning the angel fucking, it's a fact that angels fuck Ilias' faithful believers as a reward after they die.

Otherwise, Ilias is the uncontested ruler of the world. No one lives a life of hardship there and Ilias should be more than happy to tell a person how they should live.
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>>183583304
We did read the VN but we are talking about the paradox world where ilias won 100% as in no alice no ancestors no monsters
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>>183583478
Do you actually believe girls poop? Are you fucking stupid?
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>>183583304
I find it amazing how someone who knows so little about the game can speak with such authority on it. Play the game
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>>183583497
>it's a fact that angels fuck Ilias' faithful believers as a reward after they die.
>after they die.
Here's the thing, anon. Why would I wait so long if I can just go to a random monster girl and ask her to take my virginity ?
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>>183583497
>>183583525
If you won't put in the effort to read the VN, I can't be bothered to read these laughable "theories" either.
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>>183583604
I want to marry the loli bandits!
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>>183583304
>>183583497
>>183583604
I mean, honestly. She was completely insecure in the VN and going crazy over unfaithfulness after Lucifina, Michaela, and even the HUMANS left/abandoned her. You're the guy who has no idea what Ilias' character is like, and you're going on and on about "reading the VN". Get YOUR headcanon out of here.

Angel World Ilias has achieved total victory and total power. No one can rebel at all and she can shape human society however she wants. As Promestein is from Angel World and was not imprisoned in her cave for imparting knowledge to humanity, either Ilias there approved of that or Promestein was taken away before that and Ilias actually made humanity's life in literal heaven easier on her own initiative (as none of the inhabitants have complained about being forced to live like caveman again).

And emphasis on the fact that everyone is already in heaven and that the angels are living among humanity. Don't tell me some funky shit isn't going on inside Raphaela's territory. You just KNOW that she's got her own shota harem there.
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>>183583732
Promestein was imprisoned because she came in contact with humans.
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>>183583485
>Whats the difference between the two? If one is depressed at their situation that Ilias herself choose that would be dissent as the people are forced into whatever suits them best, even if its something they desperately hate.
The difference is actually acting out. That one guy was telling Luka that horrible things were happening all around them.

Keep in mind that he was there AFTER all the "undesirables" were already culled from the abducted citizens. Simply thinking isn't a crime, but acting is.
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>>183583541
Believing that being devoured is a pleasurable sensation is on the same level of intelligence, unsurprising that you would think that. Honestly, you are less than shit.
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Fuck it feels so good knowing La Croix confirmed that angel world abortion will be erased.

Thank you based Paradox for cleansing the multiverse from communism.
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>>183583732
>don't read the source material it has nothing to do with the sequel
Read the VN.
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>>183583969
Enjoy your life on literal hell on earth that is called alice world,slave
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>>183583841
So by thinking that we hate Ilias is not a crime but saying it out loud is? What is the difference? If you limit speech you still limit the mind as the thoughts are worthless without being able to say them.

I do wonder where these "undesirables" went, after all, everything is in heaven but there is talk of land still, where Lucifina fell to after she became a Fallen Angel in that world.
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Both worlds suck paradox is the only good world
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>>183584063
Stay buttmad forever, retarded communist.
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>>183583841
He was right though, terrible things were happening.
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The fact that the rubiana people are brainwashed should tip you off that the happiness in angel world is not genuine...
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>>183584163
Hmmm
"Communism" vs Slavery
Of course the american says the world of slavery is better, i can't say i'm surprised by your answer honestly
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>>183584341
The irony here is not lost on me, you are but saying that being a slave is better than being a slave.

You truly are blinded.
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>>183584261
Prove their brainwashed maybe their just very stupid
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I wish Thomas didn't ruin so many characters
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>>183584496
You'd have to be lobotomized and mentally retarded to think living in the angel world is good. In other words, the average intelligence of an iliascuck.
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>>183584589
His lazy cut-ins are really fucking annoying
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>>183584589
Blame TRTR for not even bothering to replace the artist like he did with the Knights.
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>>183584630
He's was to lazy to do even those
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>>183584589
Thomas is a great artist, just not suited for hentai.
>>183584689
It's suspicious how that all played out, it feels like trtr is shilling hardcore for Akazawa...
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>>183584740
Stop saying that, he draws it well enough for his h-manga.
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>>183584075
Eh. Probably dead or forcefully reincarnated through angel rape.

And hey, if you hated Ilias, you wouldn't be one of the "Chosen" in the first place. Or rather, can Ilias even read minds? For sure, she can't see EVERYTHING that happens in the world, since Lolias doesn't know where that legendary blacksmith went to (having not paid attention to all his movements).

In the end, Ilias is just super intelligent and not actually omnipotent and omniscient.
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>>183490686
>>183490750
Imagine how easy it would be for Luka to fight if he was a killer
>MG goes to suck his dick
>Stab her in the head while she's busy untying his belt/pants
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>>183584172
Terrible things HAPPENED to the unchosen and everyone else has lost the ability to decide how to live their lives. I've never argued against this nor were we actually talking about this. The topic was simply on what would constitute 'justification' for a smiting from Ilias.
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>>183584784
Yeah she's so super intelligent that her plan to become the ultimate being still failed.
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>>183584912
Blame micaela and Lucifina also Tamamo unsealed
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>>183584784
>be forced to worship a god
>they're not even godly
White Rabbit is more of a God than Ilias is.
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>>183584969
Blame everyone else because she's dumb.
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>>183584784

Lolias has the excuse of her memory loss for that, she knew that one soldier at the Ilias temple fantasized about getting raped by a monster and zapped him for it.
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>>183584740
>Thomas is a great artist, just not suited for hentai.
Not true. His Jingai Shunman series is great.

>>183584912
It succeeded, though. She DID become the ultimate being. It's just that, like Black Alice, her body had yet to completely synchronize the two powers, the soul return system kept reviving Luka against her (presumably), and the fact that Luka and Alice actually managed to unite their Holy and Dark powers against her for that final blow.

>>183584972
Nah, man. It's just that neither she and Alice I are at YHWH levels of creationism, just Yaldabaoth level.
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>>183584969
blame Ilias for being so weak
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>>183585120
Perhaps he kept fapping to himself and moaning out his monster rape fantasies like a total weirdo.

But if she can actually read minds, then that just means she's tolerant enough of dissenters to not kill them for their thoughts alone. I'm unsure of that, though, since didn't Tamamo hide the fact that she's one of the Six Ancestors from Ilias? Unless of course she's simply unable to read the minds of monsters or powerful enough beings?
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>>183585134
Pure headcanon. This is what happens when you don't read the VN.
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>>183585134
No, it failed. Completely.
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>>183493342
>Queen Harpy also doesn't have any dialogue for herself sadly.
Not yet anyway.
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>>183585243

At the minimum she can see a lot of what's going on in the world, Micaela's bluff about her sword of the heavens rusting worked because of it afterall.
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>>183585331
Not only did it fail, it caused a calamity that's destroying the multiverse.
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>>183585529
Not only did that calamity started destroying the multiverse Ilias didn't even retain the power she could've had and now Black Alice has that power instead, meaning Ilias was actually absorbed without gaining an equal power to what she planned.
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>>183585665
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>>183585243
>I'm unsure of that, though, since didn't Tamamo hide the fact that she's one of the Six Ancestors from Ilias?
Hard to say she didn't seem that surprised in the final battle
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>>183585796
She couldn't even see through Micaela's bamboozling
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>>183586185
Twice in the same fight, no less.
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