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Etrian Odyssey General

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>Everything EO (References, Music, Art Books, etc.)
https://pastebin.com/cdfQmt11

>EOV
http://atlus.com/etrian5/
http://sq-atlus.jp/sq5/

>EMD2
http://sq-atlus.jp/sfd2/

EOV releases in the west in Fall 2017, yes, Europe as well
EMD2 releases in Japan August 31

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>>183010657
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>>183392434
>bestiality edition
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>>183392000
nice trips for pants-shaman
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>sunflowers also drop a special item if you kill them with non-physical attacks
>don't have mage
>also realised I don't have a strike physical

wat do
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>>183392925
Changed it a bit more. Does this look better than the exhibitionist potato we have now?
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>>183393883
>strike physical
Bash damage is only on axes, claws and some Ronin skills so most groups don't hat it at hand.
Protectors can pick up axes in EO2U I believe. Or use Shield Bash but that might be wasted SP.

For non-physical damage you also can use poison or wait until you can craft consumable attack items.
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>>183394525
Axes aren't slash? Weird but I'll take it.

What's the deal with Ronin? What are stances? The skill says that I can only do it in High Stance, but I don't even know how to go into whatever stance.
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>>183395421
Ronin has four Stances:
Upper for more attack
Clear for more defense
Drawing for more speed/accuracy/evade
Peerless which combines all three.

In EO and EOU you take a Stance by using it (Just use the skill Upper Stance to take the Upper Stance).
In EO2U there are extra attack skills i.e. Upward Slash to get into Upper Stance. Sadly those skills are little more than glorified normal attacks with a different physical element (except Upward Slash which is still cut).
Peerless is different in that it needs the Ronin to be in another stance before being able to activate it. And it gets no attack skill to activate it in EO2U.
Thankfully Stances (except Peerless) also get a chance to activate automatically at the start of the fight when they are at 10.

Each Stance has a few skills associated which can not be used without that Stance or Peerless Stance.
This means Ronin has a delay in everything they do unless a stance activates automatically.
Also Stances fall off way to quickly and need to be reapplied.

All that is why Ronin was only really good in EOII where Stances god removed as a mechanic and became passives.
Ronin has some damage but they are so cumbersome to use I don't feel it's worth it.

Ronin has access to all six elements spread across their three Stances but trying to use all six costs way too much skill points and leaves you with half a dozen weak skills.
If you want to use a Ronin pick a Stance and focus on taht until late game when you can try branching out more.
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>>183394185
no, slut it Shaman is best shaman
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>>183394185
Massive improvement.
I would probably still run the other portrait but at least it would actually be a decision not a foregone conclusion.
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>>183397660
spotted the potatophile
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stop bullying the etrians
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>>183392717
>not liking lolis taking huge tiger dongs
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>>183399054
baked sweet potatoes are the best
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Do you guys consider EO as the pinnacle of dungeon crawling games?
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>>183404312
I haven't played any others
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>>183405427
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>>183404312
Dungeon Crawler is a really, really wide genre.
Many of them are otherwise unremarkable RPGs light on story that just happen in dungeons.
Stuff like Diablo are Dungeon Crawlers but they are action combat loot pinatas.
Wizardy is turn based but it's mostly about hazards and dealing with the game throwing shit at you constantly.

It's really hard to compare them.
Basically the only requirement to be a Dungeon Crawler is "happens mostly in dungeons". And that "mostly" can get stretched pretty far...

EO is kind of it's own thing.
Sometimes it's close to the unremakable RPG kind but the FOE system and good map integration gives it some puzzle elements.
I like what EO offers best, I think. Especially when it comes to skill trees.
I really don't care for the Wizardy character progression where mages get books worth of situational skills they can use three times before being completely spent while other classes get like two passives and a skill, if they are lucky.
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The board is rather fast today.
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>>183411459
Wait, what?
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>>183409213
Everyone is just busy playing EO, r-right? That's just how it is... haha
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>>183412858
Medico, those aren't sweets!
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>>183413178
And by everyone I mean etrianbros
I'll just shitpost a bit so we don't die after 25 posts
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>>183413178
I'm busy playing fighting games
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>>183406896
>Basically the only requirement to be a Dungeon Crawler is "happens mostly in dungeons". And that "mostly" can get stretched pretty far...
Are you sure? I've only ever seen dungeon crawler (or at least, DRPG) to refer to first-person titles. Which a number of have spawned after EO's success. Because if it's not first person I don't see why you wouldn't just call it a JRPG.
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>>183413661
Darkest Dungeon is definitely being called a Dungeon Crawler. And I would also call it that.
It's probably not called a DRPG though.
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>>183413657
I hope you beat your opponents and win
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>>183416732
Why is male Kirjonen fishing for the dead?
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>>183404312
No.
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>>183413178
I'm busy playing LoT2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVWAtHzna2w
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>>183413178
I'm playing a better dungeon crawler.
In this one you don't have to worry about even xp .
You rng roll character stats and levels and skill points in this game. There is no leveling up through random encounters
You build your character really fast through a board game and HOPE that rng is on your side
It's called "monokuma's evil test"
The skill system is kind of similar to EO.
I think Chunsoft may have partnered with the EO team when making it.
The team building aspect is really on point.
You need to focus some characters on specific jobs like guarding physical attacks and having another one that focuses on guarding a specific elemental attack, this system makes it so you make tons of characters.
I could talk about it all day.
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>>183417987
>30 minute fight for a single boss
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>>183411670
Garage kit.
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>Slogging through Champion's Hall on floor 17
>Have multiple luxury forts established throughout the mystery dungeon to serve as warp points, and radar zones
>DOE just materializes on floor 3, and starts making a beeline for the exit
>Have to warp out, and clobberfuck this moron before he destroys my unmanned fort at the exit, because I don't trust any B-teams with fort defense
I can't wait to deplete this dungeons DOE spawns, and then eventually realize that I need 8000 DOE materials for gear, forcing me to completely reset the dungeon.
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>>183396832

Not him but seems like they changed it greatly in Untold 2 compared to EO2.

Any other serious mechanics changes?
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To people who played EO V so far - whats the best balanced party now? And whats the most minmaxed?
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>>183420807
Well Loyalty Mastery in EOII made the Beast utter trash as it would randomly take hits for other party members - with the defensive stats of said party member.
So they would regularely take massive amounts of damage and die.
Now Loyalty Mastery just randomly halfes the damage you take while taking hits for party members is done with active skills (either one person or the entire group) making them great tanks.
Their attack skills took a nosedive though...

War Magus also no longer needs specific ailments for their skills instead any ailment will suffice.
They did however lose both Curse Cut and Transfer so no endless TP generation anymore.
Instead Ailing Slash is now one of the best damage skills in the game having a massive multiplier and dealing cut + almighty damage (so it deals more damage if the enemy is weak to cut but ignores if the enemy is resistant to cut - except for two enemies in the post-game).

Biggest change across the board is probably the rework of the Force system.
You now start with full Force whenever you enter the labyrinth and you can use it to activate a Force Boost - basically tree turns of a supercharged mode dependant on your class. Activating them does not take a turn.
What does take a turn is the Force Break which is basically the Force of EOII - but while Force Boost just empties your gauge a Force Break destroys it, meaning you can no longer gain Force until you return to town.
So while Force Boosts strengthen you and can maybe used multiple times in a single battle/exploration Force Breaks are finishers or panic buttons.

The rest is a lot of balancing. Gunners got a lot of new-ish attack skills, Revenge is less broken, Climax is less reliable - stuff like that.
Oh and Survivalists got some ailments with blind, paralysis and sleep so they now have a slightly different role than they used to have.

Also there are three new classes with Princess from EOIII, Highlander from EOU and the new Fafnir class.
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Gladiator on everything, right?
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>>183418983
Yeah man, I hate U2 bosses too
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>>183427445
>2U battles
>taking up more than 15 times
why ur party so weak?
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>>183428657
Because it's the story party.
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>>183429283
Why is your story party so weak?
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>>183427445
>30 minutes.
you need more damage output my man. i obliterated all bosses left and right
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>>183422438
I can't tell you because second names are their own classes.
Safe parties consist of masurao, dragoon, herb warlock shaman
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>>183418801
Sounds terrible
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>>183418801
How much RNG are we talking here?
The one where you have to reset over and over, because anything that isn't close to optimal will fail you quickly or is it just a nice bonus to get lucky over average dudes?
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>>183431414
Spoonfeed me pls. Scylla was an ass
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>>183418801
Is this in V3? All I know about what you've said is the board game bonus mode.
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>>183433294
It's terrible on purpose.
>>183433605
Nice bonuses.
If you build your team smart you won't have to re-roll again.
>>183438735
The board game is leveling up and chosing what skills/class of character you want
The dungeon is using the characters you've made in order to unlock more RNG rara gacha higher stat characters[/spoilers]
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How am I supposed to 1v1 Master Bird?
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>>183444879
Picnic or very slowly killing him with a Protector or Beast.
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>>183445449
>picnic
anon if i'm going to fight him solo, i want to actually feel the accomplishment

>protector
how am i going to deal damage if she's gonna be busy doing front guard/fire wall every turn?

>beast
don't have one
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>>183446773
its about the high vit and the self def buff and tons of items
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>>183394185
that's pretty awesome man, good job
please someone contact ATLUS USA talking about muh children or w/e in the off chance that pants shaman actually becomes a thing
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>>183394185
Why are you all obsessing over her pants when she literally has no feet? How the fuck does she walk on those little nubs?

But yeah, that's a good edit and it looks much better.
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>>183450534
>replying to yourself
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>>183444879
kill great dragon and get the accessory that nulls fire. you're gonna need that no matter what. can't remember if I did the 1v1 or not. I know I did 2v1 with DH+Hexer, so DH solo would probably work. Get the hazardous tea (extends bind turns by 3), bind him, buff with prelude, snake eyes, draconic fury (if time / RNG permitting) and drop Trance Ecstasy on his ass. Something like that. Takes some luck to do it solo but with enough buffs DH can trash anything in the game.
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blank post
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>>183392434
Loli Wildling > other Wildling
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>>183399054
Onaholes are for fucking. There's nothing wrong with using tools for what they're intended.
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>>183456916
Arianna pls
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>>183463391
Ricky, you don't have enough STR to pull that off...
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>>183425573
If it deals physical damage Gladiator is the way to go.
Hoplite picks Ninja to get two Hoplites for the price of one and Monk takes Princess and vice versa.
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>>183457446
why do none of the tribal classes wear underwear?
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>>183464185
>tfw you can even charge Meteors
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>>183465113
>attack order
>atk food
>physical debuff
>warcry
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>>183465113
Of course - "Meteor" is just a fancy name for the Zodiac throwing rocks at the enemy.
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>>183464954
Too much chaving.
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Are there any easy ways to let a Hexer have access to Paralysis?
I've been trying Eye of Madness, but it keeps inflicting Panic instead.
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>>183468148
If untold 2 just look any paralysis grimoire on the pastebin in the OP
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>>183468148
Paralysis Arrow - if you have a bow grimoire you can use a bow.
And there even is a LUC bow in the postgame.
For the first Untold the scorpions should have a paralysis sting.
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>>183464954
I want to stick my dick down those ears.
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>>183470906
just her ears?
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>>183471529
Where else could I do that?
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>>183471529
Yes. The rest of her is pretty standard but those ears are obscene.
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>>183475417
Nice proportions you got there Ricky
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>>183476058
10 years, 2 non-blondes.
Sounds about right.
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>>183476058
Anyone else kinda miffed that IV got two mascots, while others got only one?
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>EOU2 Classic expert
>Fighting Ice Bitch Scylla
>Doing pretty damn well for a while, I somehow got a head bind and an ailment on her quickly
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>Then I forgot about Lullaby; forgot to put a prevent order grimoire on somebody
>Party wiped
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>>183476491
Sweet dreams to you and your guild, anon.
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>>183476446
Schould have been Bandanashark - she is both blonde and a Landshark.
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>>183476446
>IV got two mascots
There's one and only one.
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>>183477623
There sure is.. Sad that she doesn't wear a bandana
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>>183477837
Bobshark is not Fang.
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Did you guys get physical copies of each game? Or are they not that much worth it?
I found Untold and IV in a store, and since it's no longer listed online around here, and given that 3DS is no longer produced (or soon won't) I'm thinking of which ones are worth having at home.
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any autistic headcanons you guys have kicking around about specific games, classes, whatever?
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>>183480278
I have physical copies of IV and 2U.
You get a lot of gameplay and exploration out of these games so I think they are worth it to have them as proper cartridges - if they aren't super expensive that is.
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>>183480278
I live in bumfuck nowhere so buying digital has been the fastest way for me. I don't feel like going to a game shop in a city or buying them online anymore since I have them already.
Also I don't think Nintendo will just get rid of the E-shop anytime soon.
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>>183480829
In order to maintain headcanon across the racial divide, my Hound will be a survivalist who, via retconning, always had a pair of giant hidden ears under the hat
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>>183478672
Haha I get it
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Which underwear will she wear today?
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>>183485097
commando
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>>183485242
lewd
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>>183485097
4 is for the 3rd Stratum.
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>>183485097
I like 7 the best.
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>>183480829
The tank is always my self-insert - walking alone from tree to tree, assembling a group of cute girls, vanquishing eldritch horrors and then moving on to the next tree.
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Never remember Iwaorupeneplep being that hard, is story party just shit because it keeps on wiping me
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>>183492350
Story party should wipe the floor with the bird since you are getting overleveled because of Gladsheim.
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Running B/WM/Hi H/T in U2 classic. Do you think that party will lack something?
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>>183493560
Bit weak on elemental damage there unless you want your Troub to use Preluded normal attacks.
Since Spear Assist is the best skill to spam while Highlander waits for Delayed Charge she will miss a bit of damage there.
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>>183493985
Would prelude attacks trigger the element on spear assist?
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>>183494323
Sure.
Prelude is a generic buff that increases all damage you do - normal attack or skill - of any element.
This btw. lets it get around the diminishing returns system that is in effect for attack and defense buff/debuffs in EO2U.
And it also changes the element of your normal attack - but not skills!

So if the Troubadour equipped with a bow Preludes herself her normal attacks will be stab+fire which is enough for Spear Assist and skills like Link Order and the Chasers.
But because it's a damage buff you should probably Prelude your War Magus and Highlander first. And then your other buffs will probably be about to fall off...
So it works but it's not a great solution.
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>>183492685
Got lucky Curare paralysis and arm bind turn before thunder wing, took it down
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>>183494696
Would it be better to switch the Troubadour with an Alchemist?
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>>183480278
I have physical copies of I, III, U1,and U2; digital of IV.

Honestly I don't have a strong preference for physical or digital.
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>>183495381
On Expert I'd switch the Troubadour for a Alchemist or Gunner - Hexer has a defence debuff which is basically the same thing as an attack buff so you are not missing too much utility here.
On Standard it should probably work with a Troub since it's more lenient.
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stop spamming /vg/
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>>183492204
Why does the Farmer always looks so unhappy with Shiitake?
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>>183500475

Death by snu-snu.
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>>183500475
Because he is worried about his dick getting hard around her.
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>>183502629
So he likes their friendship and doesn't know how to handle his body as it slowly matures?
Such a tragic little man.
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>>183501191
But why is he sad?
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>>183497945
huh, what did we do?
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Kuj
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>Start EO2U again
>Save in the SD card slot so i don't lose my completed file
>After 4 hours of play it can't read the SD card anymore
>Lose all my progress
Fuck this, I'm just gonna wait for EOV.
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>>183507552
He looks like he just defeated a middling enemy, looks smugly in the camera/at the party only to get stabbed from behind when a flash of lightning happens.
You don't smile under stormy skies - it's a death flag!
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>>183507704
My condolences, anon.
But I would be worried if the SD card can not be read anymore - something serious might be broken.
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>>183505375
>>183504106
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>>183507704
Damn that sucks. Losing progress really destroys your motivation to play doesn't it? Did you have an old or crappy SD card?
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>>183506560
I forgot to add "," to that sentence.
We reached page 10 in like 20 minutes when I posted that shit.
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>>183508445
Huh. I guess when you are friends with Shiitake you have actually something worth living for.
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Leave the general to me!
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>>183513404
Nice Bikini Armor.
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Rate my EO III party, I'm doing the postgame at the moment.
Glad/Arb (with speed books for 9 smashes)
Bucc/Glad (pincushion)
Monk/Prince
Zodiac/Glad
Ninja/Zodiac
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>>183514834
Nine Smashes never worked for me. Even with all the accuracy buffs in the world it wiffs mroe than it hits unless you level it to max level - but then why even use it?

Also you might want a Hoplite/Ninja to survive most of the bosses. They don't fuck around anymore.
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>>183515382
So, drop the glad and get hoplite?
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>>183515382
I'd drop the Ninja and specc the Glad for Balde Rave or Front Mortar.
Dark Ether spam is not helpful in the post-game as TP pools are large enough to last a while by now and fighting with four people is sure to get you killed.
And since ailments are weak and Ninja damage is low they don't offer much else.
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>>183514834
>Glad/Arb
>Speed books
He's gonna be way more powerful as a G/B with pincushion. Way more powerful than the B/G as well. G/x will always be more powerful than the reverse. Speed books just widens the gap between them.
>>183515382
>wiffs mroe than it hits unless you level it to max level
Accuracy goes down as it levels up. You actually hit more with it at level 7 than 10.
>>183515954
N/Z can run prophecies. Although it's a bit shaky because if both clones die you're almost sure to get wiped by the next elemental attack. H/x is more reliable not to die. But Dark Ether is still useful for Gladiator spam in general dungeoneering. Just somewhat less so for bosses.
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>>183517743
>He's gonna be way more powerful as a G/B with pincushion. Way more powerful than the B/G as well. G/x will always be more powerful than the reverse.

With how the multiplier on Pincushion works G/B and B/G are about the same in strength.
Endless Battle makes up for the lower AGI of the G so their Pincushion multipliers turn out to be about the same. So G's higher STR give them the edge - but B has the better TP management and accuracy.
I think you could run either.

But with speed books in the mix G becomes better since more 1 AGI is a bigger relative change for them.
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Where's the cheapest place to pre-order Etrian Odyssey v from in britbong land? Shop4world have it for £28.99 with £1.45 back as reward points but I haven't seen it anywhere cheaper.
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>Champion's Hall
>Glacier Beast, Thunder Spawn, and Magma Beast in every single room
this is such a fucking slog holy shit. I can't even torpor everything, because then my party members will still try to attack them.
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>>183514834
Ok, changed some stuff. What about now?
Arb/glad
Bucc/glad
Hop/ninja
Monk/prince
Zodiac/glad
My autism wont let me use a character if her weapon doesnt match the portrait one, thats why no main gladiator
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>>183520082
The building blocks of MD are randomness, obnoxiousness and tedium. What did you expect?
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Level for heavenbringer? Got a team of I/I/D front and R/S back about level 53 right now and there's just too much damage for my squad. Every other boss was fine but I've hit a wall.
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>>183520693
I usually trash him at 56 but I have no idea when your Imperials will be sturdy enough to take an actual hit on a Drive turn...
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Should I buy Untold Millennium girl or EO4 if I have never played the series?

Is EO5 a direct sequel to 4?
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>>183520442
The problems I have with EMD are not present in other MD games, because they are mechanics inherent to the Etrian Odyssey franchise, except handled by fucking retards. Now, it has been a couple of years since I have played Shiren, but I don't remember enemies having sweeping resistances to the player's damage types like in EMD, where every single monster encounter is a ridiculous slog that lasts forever
>Monarch Tree: cut rs+, pierce rs+, blunt rs+, fire res, ice res, volt res
>Lucifier Hawk: cut rs+, pierce wk, blunt rs+, fire rs+, ice rs+, volt rs+
>Magma Beast: cut rs+, pierce rs+, blunt rs+, fire neutral, ice neutral, volt null
>Glacier Beast: cut rs+, pierce rs+, blunt rs+, fire null, ice wk+, volt neutral
>Thunder Spawn: cut rs+, pierce rs+, blunt rs+, fire neutral, ice neutral, volt null

Then you have the slow application of status ailments vs these groups of bulky monstrosities that plays an animation even when you have animations off.
Then there's the amber surging mechanic that inflates their stats even further
Oh, don't forget the rare species with even further buffed statistics

The worst part? You can completely neutralize the danger in the situation with a Hexer, but the monsters STILL take forever to chew through. Encounters in Shiren, or even PMD are over within a couple of hits, for you, or against you.
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>>183522960
Both are good starting points. I'd go with Classic mode if starting with Millennium girl and ignore the story mode if i were you.

The games are loosely connected but not really sequels in a story way so much as they're gameplay evolutions of each other. So you can play them in any order story wise, it's more the quality of life changes that you should be concerned with.
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>>183522960
The games are independant from one another, only EO and EOII (as well as their remakes) even mention each other.

I'd say go for IV - it's the easiest in the series.
But it also has an overworld and many small dungeons instead of one big one which is pretty different from the rest of the series and crawlers in general.
So if you want a more pure crawler experience get EOU.
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>>183523104
>I don't remember enemies having sweeping resistances to the player's damage types
Because they just super overpower there so you can't even really touch them
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>>183523894
Which is infinitely more tolerable than the 1 damage slugfests of EMD. There is no danger, or threat, except to the player's patience.
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>>183524245
arguable, stuff like monsters who move through walls and oneshot you can go suck on a dick
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>>183524245
EMD doesn't attack your HP, but your SAN
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>>183524538
do a puzzle then
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This Hexer is somebody's wife and they're going to love them forever. Do not NTR them
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>>183525983
Of course not.
Some anon said Arianna was my wife and I intend to stay faithful to her.
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>>183520238
Yup, that'll work. 2 Glads + Hop + Prince will pretty much murder anything in the game reliably, although you might need to spec for Freezing Blow once or twice I think for Anemone + AG? Save those for last I guess. Although it's not nearly as fun, Zodiac / Bucc or Zodiac / Wildling will add damage more using debuffs than Z/G charged meteors. Pref Z/B for Limit Boost. Then use dark ether after the front charges.
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>>183525983
That's a cute hexer
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>>183476491
>>183476952
Added Prevent order onto someone and just smacked her ass
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Alright, gonna fire up EOIIU
Warn me of any noobtraps
I at least know to focus on actives early, but I don't want 100% wasted class slots
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>>183535391
1 backrow beast
3 frontline war magi
1 hexer
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>>183535554
Give all 3 War Magi Fang for the portrait.
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>>183535554
Anon, pls
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>>183535391
Don't use Ronin.
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>>183537090
Will do, I hate weeaboos anyways
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>>183537090
>>183537684
rude
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>>183535391
Use ronin
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Please spoonfeed me your cookie cutter team to get through 2U Expert Classic.
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>>183537949
Reclass Flavio to Gunner.
Problem solved
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>>183537949
This wasn't meant to be condescending to the Anon above. I'm just looking for interesting and viable party comps to play with.
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>>183537949
i finished the game with this party.
>front line
protector
war magus
>backrow
gunner
hexer
the other one can be a support unit in either line or anoter damage dealer
still got a hard time in early levels but once i got to set skills i was obliterating everything
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>>183537949
I would give you one but it just ruins the fun of the game, since it kills everything in literally 2-3 turns.
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>>183537949
Reclass Flavio into a Gunner
Have Arianna bring the def/atk orders and Links, give her a ELM atk up Grimoire and watch her go
Faf being Faf
You can have bert in the backrow for easier buffing, Front Guard works just as strong if he is not in the front row
Keep Chloe as support healing/ailment protection and give her a link order grimoire for free turns, elm atk up if needed/wanted

But if you mean classic mode:
Beast - hit taker and shit
War Magi - Ailing Slash - Vampire 1. Seriously you wont need to go past Vampire 1
Dark Hunter - Binds and Ailments and super big dick damage whenever.. RNG lets you. Viper lands a lot due to low poison resistance on most things, then work on binds for Ecstasy
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Troubadour - healing Grimoires are common, and the war magi can back the bard up
Hexer - Tight ass build here. You will want Torpor for sweeping. Sleeping targets take 50% more damage when woken up with a physical attack. Then you want debuffs, and Terrify is a fantastic ailment, but fuck you also want binds to help out your Dark Hunter once in awhile. Thankfully there is a grimoire that binds yourself, then you can probably transfer those to an enemy
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Dicky
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Ricky makes my dicky sticky.
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>>183541546
You're going to get sicky if you sticky in ricky
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sticky ricky in your dicky
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Recently started EOIIU and am planning ahead;
Can Heal Guard be used on yourself as a Protector?
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>>183544457
yes
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>kita kita?
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>>183548475
Shiitake and Zodiac?
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Don't fucking die tonight
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>>183553621
why is she so brown?
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>>183555073
Too much time in stratum 4.
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wake up
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>>183561081
Why is best girl wearing worst girl's clothes?
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>>183561248
She wanted to cosplay as a metal-less trashcan.
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>>183537949
Tank (Protector or Beast), Dark Hunter, War Magus
Hexer, Alchemist or Troubadour

The start is a bit slow and one boss needs an adjustmanet in startegy but for the most part Ailing Slash and Ecstasy chew through boss HP like mad - as long as they stay proberlm ailed and bound and that's waht the Hexer is for.
A properly buffed Dark Hunter can one-shot even some post-game bosses on Expert with Ecstasy, it's pretty crazy.
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>>183535391
Armor is pretty damn weak and VIT is important for taking physical hits.
So Medic or War Magus can stand in the frontlane while Souvereign should not even though they are wearing the heavier armor.
TEC damage only scales with TEC, so just pick the staff that gives the most of it to your Alchemist or Souvereing and ignore weapon ATK.
Infliction now only takes LUC so a Hexer wants tons of it and doesn't need anything else.
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>>183555073
She has been staying in Armoroad for the last few years.
And yes, she is still a loli; she was a loli for a thousand years and that will not change.
Etrian Odyssey 3 Untold: The Eternal Loli
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>>183564297
if Ricky is in EOU3 I dont want it anymore
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>>183565435
More Ricky for me then.
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>>183565435
You can fight her if you side with Arianna.
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nene is bene
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>>183566806
nene la meme

little slut needs to be removed
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Please help I am super retarded.
I can't do shit in eo3's postgame, every boss just ohkos my entire party.

People say a Warrior's Might party is super op, but how exactly do I build one? I thought it was using Shogun with swashbuckling to trigger WM a bunch of times but that's what I've been trying and it's super underwhelimng on the rare occasions I manage to pull it off.
Failing that what's a good team for eo3s postgame? I got through the main story spamming charged meteor but that's not cutting it any more.
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>>183566806
actually, nene is pene
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BENE!
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who is the better Reaper?
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>>183567826
Twintails!
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>>183567826
Straight hair has the bigger boobs.
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>>183567826
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About to start 2U classic. Any tips for class/party composition?
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>>183569818
Normal or Expert?
The former lets you be a bit more lax with class synergy.
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>>183569997
Expert. I want to break my balls
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>>183570068
a beast with hit-taker and lick+autolick level 20 can pretty much tank the entire maingame
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>>183570068
Protector is the easier tank compared to beast.
War Magus can be used as a healer or a great damage character with Ailing Slash - they usually have enough skill points to do both.
Hexer synergizes with War Magus (since those want ailments on enemies) and are overall great lockdown characters.
Alchemist is great for elemental damage - both single target for bosses and area wide for random encounters.

And then you still have one slot to pick what you want - just don't take Ronin, they are sadly underpowered.
Dark Hunter is the meme pick with Hexer and War Magus since Ecstasy is stupid strong - but it also means you rely extremely on infliction rates.
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>>183570068
Also worth mentioning: I have the DLC, so Highlander is an available option
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>>183570068
Whip DH + a Hexer with a Stigmata grimoire breaks the entire game.
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>>183570403
Sadly Highlander is shit. The whole game revolves around 1 or 3 turn burst damage (Force) and the Highlander's most powerful skill takes 4 turns to activate. But Stigmata is an uber skill so the DLC still has value.
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>>183570403
Highlander was super strong in EOU but is more in line now in EO2U.
Their Stigmata put on a grimoire can seriouely break the game in half like >>183570832 said.

If you have the hot-spring DLC a Beast is way better than it is without - Bikini Armor only has one DEF but halfs all fire/ice/volt damage and can be worn by anyone.
Usually it's a questionable trade-off since characters can only wear one piece of body armor but Beasts wear no body armor but collars for their DEF instead.
So they can wear both their "main" armor type and bikini armor.
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>>183525983
This girl is someone's wife and he is going to love her forever
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>>183572508
Grouchy Ricky is the only true Ricky. All those happy Rickys are fake.
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>>183573472
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>>183573650
Fake!
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>>183572968
Yes, I certainly will.
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>>183575971
Oh god, someone give Chloe some meat - she is starting to melt!
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>>183576454
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>>183576543
Quick! Let her take a bite!
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>>183577562
Remove pervert posters
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>>183577920
But all Etrians are perverts!
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>>183579727
Even these ones?
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>>183579727
Or this one?
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>>183579727
She couldn't possibly...
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>>183580902
She is having threesomes with Ricky and Rosa in the mansion!
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>>183580998
Flat Nightseeker and loli Dancer were respectable young ladies until they fell into the bad influence of lewdress!
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>>183583119
Flatseeker just needs the power of platonic love
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>>183583282
>platonic
Poor crazy hair Fortress...
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>>183583282
Jesus, EOUII is way harder than IV
I'm getting my ass kicked on the third floor, and am poor and as fuck

Is the War-Mage + Gunner healing enough, or did I gut myself with no Medic?
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>>183584597
War Magus alone is enough heal, Gunner should not even need to help out - although the ailment cleansing can be useful since WM sucks at that.
They can however completely prevent ailments, binds and even debuffs with Barrier (but they need both Barrier and War Lore Grimoires to make it 100% reliable).
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>>183584806
How important is armor?
I've been thinking about always outfitting my group with the second best stuff, an only upgrading when the current best becomes second
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>>183584993
>How important is armor?
For any game that isn't EOV, not very.
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>>183584993
Same drill as always. Highest HP frontrower will attract more aggro, so keep them up to date on armour, other characters can relax until the bosses. And unless you're taking a cheese build, the bosses will be tough. Check the enemy stats for status/bind weaknesses and abuse those to get cheap wins. Remember that anons patented super build probably doesn't come into its own until a higher level and you might have to build skills for the here and now then rest into crazy abusive shit later.
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>>183585207
EO and EOII armor was also strong - only with EOIII did it get nerfed. And then it got nerfed again in the Untolds for whatever reason...

>>183584993
Armor is pretty fucking weak, more so than in EOIV.
Buying one body armor per stratum is probably enough for anyone besides Beasts (they want all the defence they can get no matter how small).
Shoes, gauntlets and helmets can get completely ignored unless they have nice stat boosts like VIT or TEC.
Go for resistances if available, they are worth a hell of a lot more than armor.
>>
>Decide to try the undub for EO2U
>Videos are in japanese
>Subs are impossible
whelp, guess I'm listening to the shit dub
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>>183585913
What videos?
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>>183586079
Story mode cutscenes
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>>183586107
The only cutscenes in story mode all have text boxes AFAIK. Excluding, perhaps, the very first line of the character's introduction.
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>>183471529
Fuck yes. Play with the lobes and tug her around by them whenever you need your dick milked. Best hole.
>>
What's a good psp dungeon crawler like EO that isn't class ofheroes?
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>>183589520
There are surprisingly few - at least I didn't manage to find many.
Unchained Blades is also first person with 3D rendered corridors but you can not even create your own characters. Also it's ok at best.
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>>183567145
>>People say a Warrior's Might party is super op, but how exactly do I build one?
It's a G/S that sets up Berserker Vow and spams WM, with two S/Bs using normal attacks (Second Sword + Swashbuckling) to proc.

I'm not sure what you mean by "manage to pull it off" because it's just a one-turn setup.
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>>183590947
Is there anything kind of similar to EO on PC?
First person dungeon-crawling, with a lot freedom to make your characters however you want.
Similar artstyle preferred, but not necessary.
I just want something to feed my hunger while waiting for EOV.
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>>183593338
Nope, at least I found none.
Best I could find are things closer to Wizardry - you can create your characters and choose their portraits but the classes don't have skill trees and instead learn their (few) skill on certain levels.
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>town dialogue after you reach the 6th stratum
damn, I wasn't expecting these feels
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>>183594776
Which game?
I don't remember any 6th Stratum dialogue to be more than flimsy filler...
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>>183594776
>all these NPCs talking about how sad they'll be to see my guild leave
>spend another in-game year finishing the 6th stratum, doing sea quests, 100%ing items and monsters, grinding statbooks
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>>183594776
>she will never remember your party ever again
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Please god let me recruit him.
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>>183593338
Stranger of Sword City I guess.
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>>183597194
boy warlock looks like a slut
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>>183597194
This fall.
We just have to believe.
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>>183601367
>10 years
>9 games
EO3U soon.
I feel it boys, I feel it
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>>183601367
EMD2 wasn't even announced on the actual 10th anniversary of the series...
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>>183602736
They were saving it for a more important day
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>>183601367
Glad they took away that shitty PQ out of the list.
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>>183601367
that an artbook?
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>>183593338
I've been looking into Stranger of Sword City today and it seem promising.
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>>183604957
What are the pros/cons of that game? Would you all-in-all recommend it?
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>>183605918
I really can't say because I haven't played it yet, but from what I've seen it looks like the closest you'll get to EO on PC.
You should check out the Steam page or a YouTube video to see what I mean.
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Don't die!
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Finnish boy a cute
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>>183609663
I would follow him to that ice palace he is always talking about.
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>>183609926
Kill yourself.
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So aside from the obvious balance changes to the class. What merit is there to having a Medic early game in EOII? I started a new file and feel like I could just run a war magus and put enough points into Warlore to compensate while not sacrificing a front line fighting spot and swap the medic out for a hexer or gunner.

Current party is Front: Protector/D. Hunter/W. Magus
Back: Medic/ Troubador
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>>183609926
Kirjonne :---D vetää vaa es xDDDD
maksa velat
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>>183610203
Medic is pretty shit especially since they are stuck with staves which tanks their action speed.
Get a Hexer, they are great at control, Venom Curse melts faces, Dampen is an incredible debuff against resistant enemies and Revenge breaks the game in half.
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>>183598695
Sheep is PURE!
What kind of sick fuck would want to stick their dick in his soft fluffy hair?
Only degenerates would want to cuddle with him smelling his hair while drifting off to sleep.
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PLEASE GOD LET ME MARRY ALL 4 OF THEM!
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>>183611767
why is a boy exposing his tummy like that?
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>>183612452
He wants to be ravaged.
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>>183611767
no
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>>183614317
Do want
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>>183614317
I need this
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>>183604957
Haven't played SoSS, but the devs have a whole bunch of crawlers and the one I did play was sort of poor. The first few hours, which were brutal in resources terms and turned up some RNG loot surprises, were fun, but once the actual maingame systems/strategies became apparent it turned into a pretty terrible game where I just spammed the same shit forever and ground through.
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I have no idea if this image is fake or not. But EOV release date is Octuber, right?
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>>183616261
It's this fall - there has been no official word since. Everything else is just retailer speculation.

But it will probably be too close to the Pokemon release and once again fail miserably...
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>>183616261
Even if it's real, the image says 2018.
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>>183616674
>Even if it's real, the image says 2018.
Glad it was just panic.

Poor Untold 3 though.
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>>183616261

Seems legit.
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>>183616801
Don't worry, we DO have a rehashed pokémon game coming out this november.
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>>183616874
Does she also have some fire and ice types?
And the ALMIGHTY Bidoof?
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>>183616261
we dont share audiences so it woudlnt matter
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>>183611767
slut
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>>183618124
In the end, it does matter when you release a small game against a huge game.
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>>183616261
yee, finally best region is getting a remake but they will fuck up the dungeons just like in sun moon
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>>183392434
Tlachtga is annoying in EOU, half my team can't attack her and she kept blasting my medic
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>>183618824
Focus on the 5head first, bind her arms
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>>183618824
Bind Tlachtga's head and she can literally do nothing while you kill Ren.
Even if you just ignore her she can barely do anything - Revenge deals 1 damage is Tlachtga is at full health.
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>>183618124
>we dont share audiences
Hah
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>>183616261
it's like the last day of november or something
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>>183618705
Do you mean ORAS?
RIP Granite Cave
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>>183620380
SM caves and routes weren't as complex as I expected.
Hope nothing bad happens to Mt coronet
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>>183621482
>Mt Coronet is completely gutted and just magically teleports you to the other side like the volcano in SM.
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>>183621482
You no longer encounter enemies in like 80% of it and there are two Pokemon-Centers just hanging out in there you can somehow fly to.
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>>183621482
Considering it was the single most common complaint about the game fucking plebeians it will go the way of the dodo and they'll call it "streamlining".

Really, after seeing what they did to Granite Cave and New Mauville, I have no doubt that they will turn into a single corridor with five exits, some paths conveniently blocked by NPCs until youy're supposed to go there, and then a very simple second floor to take you to Spear Pillar. Maybe also some side room so you can catch different pokémon there.
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>>183622184
Just do it the ORAS way and allow the player to fly to routes and caves.

ORAS fly is the floor jump of pokémon.
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>>183622346
>some paths conveniently blocked by NPCs until youy're supposed to go there
I wonder with what asshat excuses they will come up this time.
Some day they might just stop giving any fucks and just have the NPC state: "You can not go here because we don't want you to go here yet."
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>>183619767
I defeated her Ren was the real threat she was just annoying
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>>183622798
I'm pretty sure they did that in BW or BW2 already, every road block in that game was an NPC telling you to do something else.

Heck, come think of it they did that in the very first gym city of the very first game, with that guy who would not let you leave Pewter City because YOU MUST MEET BROCK FIRST.
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>>183622346
People complained about actually designed caves in the original game?
What the fuck
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>>183623275
He was just a big fan of Brock and wanted everyone to meet him.
You know how the Japanese are with their idol worship.
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>>183623553
At least in my experience, Mount Coronet is the single most hated thing about the game. Of course nobody stops to think why traversing that place can be unfun (it's needing like six HMs for that place alone) and instead just say fuck that cave and fuck that complexity, have something else instead.
Hopefully in the event of a Sinnoh remake they might take a look at the reception of ORAS (memes aside) and decide to look at HGSS instead. But on the other hand, Matsuda is a black belt at ignoring criticism.

>>183623843
Damn wota.
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>>183624023
Fucking casuals, but that explains why EO is not popular
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>>183627060
Whoa. Are they holding hands?
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Wait, is the Utopian Lord the final super boss of EMD?
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>>183628001
Yes. Muspel, Demented King, Amber Dragon (don't ask) and Utopian Lord are the Four Heavenly Kings or whatever of this game.
Now enjoy the epilogue where you finally learn the Guildmaster's name.
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>>183628728
Oh, I still have lots to do still, since I accidentally skipped to him before even beating the three dragons. Yeah, I think the Demented King, Amber Dragon, and Storm Emperor are the three bosses I have yet to beat.

Can't wait to farm those dragon scales like the good ol' days of Etrian Odyssey 1
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>>183629638
They were far easier in EO1.
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>>183629782
Faster to get to, and scavenge was a thing. Was there any conclusive evidence that Holy Gift actually lowers the drop rate? I remember hearing something about that ages ago with a pretty big sample size, but I can't even wrap my head around that much of a fuckup.

Here's hoping EMD2 has formaldehyde, because this shit is whack.
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>>183629961
Not only faster to get to and scavenge, but in the case of EMD they also have TWO rare drops, with 5% and 1% drop rate. The elemental conditional is also a pain in the ass as the attacks needed will deal them like one-digit damage (no composite to help you here) so it's akin to trying to kill a boss with curse damage.
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>>183630639
>1% drop rate

Pfft, that's too generous. Sealed J-Sword tier drop rates when?
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What's the best way to beat the dragons in EO3?
I finished the story without any real issues, but all 3 dragons kick my ass in 2-3 turns.
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>>183633671
Learn the pattern and use elemental shields
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>>183634785
This along with resists.
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>>183633671
Berserker Vow +change
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>>183633671
Setup elemental bots
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>>183633671
Wait for Untold 3.
On a positive note, after blue dragon you don't have to do the mantis room ever again
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August Soon
>EMD2 and SSQ3 reveal soon
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how do we fix eo3
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>>183645750
Add Fangs.
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>>183645750
add more princess
add more foe
add more princesses being mauled by foe's
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>>183646207

delet this
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>>183645750
Make ailments/binds and elemental parties worthwhile
Buff most of the classes, specially princess and yggdroid
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>>183645750
Make Farmer and Yggdroid fun to use.
Make sailing to your destination more fun.
Make the game much longer than any other Untold so that I don't have to face the pain of finishing an EO and remembering that I'm a trash human bean.
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eo3 would be improved with romance events.
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>>183645750
EOIII seems fine to me
I'd need to look at class trees too long to make an educated opinion though, though I will admit Buccaneer/Shogun/Wildlings all feel awkward to use with the exception of lolinstadeath out of the wildling I have killed the fourth stratum's boss twice now off that fucking thing before it got to half hp I swear such a damn time saver
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>>183645750
Like always, fix the bugs.

Make Yggdroid a bit more intuitive to use. Give Farmer more utility.

Wasn't there a problem with the Gladiator as well?
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>>183645750
Add Ricky
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>>183648464
Yeah, mace gladiator was terrible.
They need to rework the hit-rate formula
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>>183647442
I'd rather have prostitution events.
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>>183648627

But Anon, she was already in EO3. Her party was wiped by Wicked Queen.
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Fang game when?
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>>183616261
I await with dread, but this is unrelated to EO, fortunely. And I hope that it stays that way.
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>>183650982
What is this?
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>>183651952
put it into saucenao and find out
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>>183651952
Cladun 2
Man I wish I didn't lose my custom ninja sprite in cladun2.
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>>183654445
What's going to happen to ninja?
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>>183654550

Nothing.
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>>183654550
Hopefully, she has senpuku and kazuwaza at max
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>>183655383
Are you sure? I think it'll look like this...
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>>183655536

Remove this at once.
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>>183655857
No
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>>183655969
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>>183655383
threadly reminder that I'm still asking for the source of this image, if you please.
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>>183656925

It's lost forever in the depths of twitter somewhere.
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>>183659258
C-cute!
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Is it fall yet?
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>>183661059
no
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>>183661568
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>>183662372
YAMETE
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>>183662372
Nene is the eternal slut.
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>>183633671
the thing about dragons is you can literally make them do zero damage with elemental shields and slash resist charms.
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>>183645750
fix the retarded skill tree, no I do not want to spend 20 fucking points learning masteries just to use Pin Cushion. Also redo the Wildling skill tree too, thats just as garbage. Add the pet slots from EOV
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>>183647442
>girl who wears heavy armor afraid of getting attacked
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*Iceblocks your path*
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>>183661059
No - it will only be fall when EOV gets released.
That's how seasons work.
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>>183664795
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>>183664795
Pssh, nothing personal, dragon.
*sics a level 1 Beast at him*
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delet and all that shit
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>>183667060
Bigger guns are needed.
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>>183663069
That's not Nene, that's gunner
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>>183667272
Who would do such a horrible thing to gunner?
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>>183667060
Aiming with her eyes closed? What is she, an Arbalist?
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You will have good rests tonight at the inn
and the thread won't die while you sleep
but only if you reply with
good suyasuya little fanger
to this post
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>>183667801
Good suyasuya little fanger.
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>>183667801
I want to draw more fang
but I'm not an artist ;_; pls someone draw fang for me
Good suyasuya little fanger
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>>183668395
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>>183668395
Literally draw anything on ms paint and you would have contributed more than 90% of the general
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No sleep yet.
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>>183671086
Is she sleeping?
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>>183671126
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>>183671126
Yes.
And having sweet dreams.
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>>183671175
How did fluff-master become ded?
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>>183671828
memes
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>>183671828

It was me. I killed her.
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>>183672110
But why, anon?
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>>183672240

She got in the way.
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>>183668395

just4u, anon
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>>183672546
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>>183672546
Looks like jack frost a bit
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>>183672546
I love you <3
t. that anon
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>>183673708
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>>183676787
That's how I look like.
But I am not a cute girl. And I am not floating on the sea. And I have no popsicle.
Actually just the heat induced agony is the same.
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>>183672546
What a beauty.
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>>183675985
What has she seen?
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>>183679990
Stratum 6
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>>183682128
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9k0rVqaA_2c
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>>183683557
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>>183683557
I love this battle theme. So fitting for the place it's in.
>>
https://www.atlus.co.jp/news/1693/#musiclist
>double genki princess
>no lolitress
Where is your god now?
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>>183687673
Genki Princess is my god
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>>183687983
But where is she now?
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>>183688978
Olympus, riding Zeus' monster wang
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>>183688978
In the EO 'Best of' cd's artwork as a main girl!
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>>183691194
How can I make her happy?
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>>183691194
Is it wife posting time?
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>>183693625
Let's~... waifuposting!
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>>183694054
That is a tiny Drive Blade (and a huge head).
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>>183693625
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You all better wake up.
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>>183693625
your waifu is a slut who we've all done, you cuck
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>>183623275
Then in Korrina's city in XY, you couldn't leave through the east because YOU HAVE BUSINESS WITH THE KORRINA. Don't you dare leave without seeing Korrina.
I wish that that required jackhammering her a few nights.
[construction noises intensify]
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>>183701516
Don't talk about my waifu like that anon.
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>>183703391
she left you because you're a faggot
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chic
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>>183703391
Anon, your wife is a beautiful person and dedicated to you and your relationship.
>>
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>>183707156
Nice tits
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I'm bored and want to draw Etrians
I'll take a couple /r/s that may or may not ever be completed
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>>183707156
Hey wait a second, is that harlot cosplaying as
世界樹の迷宮V 長き神話の果て (Sekaiju no Meikyuu V: Nagaki Shinwa no Hate) Etrian Odyssey V: Beyond the Long Myth, Necromancer class, 2nd female portrait?
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>>183707992
Cass being a total bro
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>>183707992
Arianna eating cake with a deer.
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>>183707992
the fuzziest foe ball possible
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>>183707992
Fang and Gunner being cute together.
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>>183707992
Five-farmer guild throwing jars of SYRUP at Narmer
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>>183707156
Would she be necromancer reclassed warlock or warlock reclassed necromancer?
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>>183709727
She is wearing Necromancer clothes and there are coffins there so clearly she is currently a Cestus.
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>>183707992

Nene shitposting on the internet.
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>>183709534
I already drew that, but they weren't throwing bottles of syrup, they were the bottles of syrup
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>>183709534
>>183710406
Oh, and they weren't all farmers either
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>>183709534
>>183710406
Some anon here has a strange fascination with syrup...
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>>183710406
why not draw that alternate SYRUP anyway?
>>183710793
some promotional thing has the party all named SYRUP fighting Narmer
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>>183710406
I don't get it.
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>>183713291
But... why syrup?
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>>183714559
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>>183715539
A fucking leaf
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>>183715539
Leaves in Armoroad?
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Please help, need some game like Etrian Odyssey until V comes out
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>>183717702
Is that Necromancer flying!?!?!?
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>>183718447
Sekaiju no Meikyuu
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>>183718447
Farming Simulator
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>>183718595
Floating is trendy among creepy Etrian girls.
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>>183719427
You mean...dota 2?
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>>183719558
Those two girls are cute anon, not creepy.
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>>183719558
But mightseeker don't float
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>>183720146
nigga aint magic
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>Do solo Mysterious Forest with a wanderer, and later a Landsknecht who was doing 200 damage crits with a -2 knife
>Start up solo protector, and immediately realize my damage is completely awful garbage
This is going to be a very slow run.
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>>183720718
At least you are invincible as long as you fight against more than one enemy.
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>>183720718
>Protectors have the fastest hunger rate.

Teach is fat! FAT!
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>>183721246
It's just her metabolism. And a thyroid problem. Also it's genetic and she tried everything to lose weight.
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>>183721246
Hey man wearing all that heavy armor is tiring
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>>183721246
This, and poison spam are my biggest worries
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What's happening here?
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EOU1 or EOU2, which is the better game?
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>>183726504
EOU2, it has Fang.
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>>183726504
The one that has less messy grimoires, a complete classic mode, classes that are more interesting to use, a monster codex that actually tells you if your ailments are worth shit, a protection tank, reclassing that doesn't suck balls, more portraits to choose from and.a story party with some actual charisma.
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>>183726504
Depends on what you're looking for.
>>
Who's the 5th member of Guild Easy Mode? So far there's reliable binder, tank, elemental damage dealer and healer.
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Are Reapers actually underwhelming in EOV? I want to use twintails sideboob maido chan dammnit.
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>>183727358
Another damage dealer evidently.
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>>183727578
They're by far this game's shafted class.
But unlike shafted classes in DS games, they aren't deadweight. You don't need the absolute best party, do you?
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>>183726504
Labyrinths floors, enemies, bosses, and difficulty scaling are superior in EOU - it's not even close. Those are the things you think would be most important in a dungeon crawler, but 2U has better QoL and grimoires, which is apparently enough to win some people over.
>>
I don't want to explore the same labyrinths as people who prefer EOU over EO2U.
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>>183726504
U1 is more fun
U2 has better gameplay
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>>183727906
Well I was thinking of using one along a chain fencer, Masurao, Warlock and Cestus but it's looking not so great defensively without a dragoon or healer so looks like reaper might be put on the backburner. May I ask in what capacity Reapers are underwhelming? Seems they are designed to inflict various ailments then heavy damage which sounds decent on paper.
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>>183729553
Basically, the heavy damage is not really heavy and using ailments has a prereq that may or may not auto-activate.

An interesting option that they have is reclassing into herbalist, since their second name is a more straightforward ailer and earthrun actually has the LUC to exploit them. I haven checked infliction rates though so they might actually be worse off and they absolutely won't be attacking at all. You'd get some healing skills on the side but since Earthrun WIS isn't all that great it will be about a 33% weaker than a brownie (and 40% weaker than a healer herbalist brownie).

For the record, fencer is the second most shafted class in the game and with that party you will only get one chase per turn, masurao and cestus are almost completely unable to proc them (and even when they can you're usually better off doing something else than feeding chains)
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BTW it would be nice to add this stat calculator to the pastebin since in this game stats are kind of complicated. It also includes stat tables for pets, which is kinda nice.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jKocziCZKJ2BtL4auB_bCTR1-15OQdJgIbBawfaqsds/
To use, copy it to your own google account.
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>>183735432
I wish Blue and Brown DH would do that to me
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>>183735432

Why isn't she wearing any pants?
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>>183735707
robbed
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>>183737921
>tfw no Dark Huntervania
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>>183738447
How about a Fang Huntervania?
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Anyone here played 7th dragon?
What are some things I should know about before starting?
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>>183738903
What 7th dragon game are you playing?
The DS one, 2020, 2020-II, or VFD?
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>>183739261
DS
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>>183738903

Gloomy Princess best girl.
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>>183716172
More likely than you might think.
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Good news. I finally got over my autism and have a party of people who aren't the same level. Too many deaths on the third floor and I can't keep reseting my game.
it's killing me inside ever time I get close to leveling up. And I still need to add a hexer to my party at some point but I'll probably wait until I get past the 1st stratum
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>>183738903
>>183739261
7th Dragon and 7th Dragon 2020 are fantranslated right? Any news on 2020-II?
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Is Hexer really that unpopular?
I've been running Hexer instead of healers for a long time.
Why would I need to heal when I can just weaken and then nuke the enemy before thye even have a chance at seriously hurting my team
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>>183740529
Yes, 7th Dragon and 2020 were fan translated. 2020-II won't be here for a long time.
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>>183740941
I'm switching to a hexer over a medic for EOII soonish because having a medic isn't benefiting me at the moment and I'm painfully aware that I could just use my warmagus as the healer and lose Revive for more offense and better synergy with my current team which has a dark hunter/Warmagus going for ailment slashes.

As an aside, why does Viper for the Dark Hunter never fucking hit?
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>>183741212
May as well release it on 2020
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>>183742249
>that broken wrist
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>>183743336
Cute Fang.
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I'm playing through Untold's story mode. It's my first EO. Quick question; should I be maxing out Take/Mine/Chop as soon as possible?
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>>183745452
No, the game gives you free Grimoires for those so you don't waste precious skill points in useless skills.
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>>183745819
Well, shit.
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>>183746313
>Ranma Monk didn't make it into EMD2.
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>>183417039
Every time you help Kirjonen out in the Area battles, there's some text that says he makes a little grave and prays for the monsters you slayed together.
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The full set.
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>>183745452
I put only one point into each at first, and with the way the game was unfolding, I was extremely hesitant to put any more points into them. But then grimoires happened.

So don't bother, like the other anon said.

>>183745819
Actually, I was thinking of grinding to over-level a bit, rest characters to re-assign skill points and make a few max level Take/Mine/Chop grimores, then rest again to return skill point configurations to what I had before.
Worth it?
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>>183747108
My heart.
Kirj is truly best girl
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>>183747509
Kirjonen is an absolute madman. I once dropped down to help him in Area 3 and he was facing 2 Shiny Frozen Scythes.

That and he legitimately was going to solo Drake on a hunch that it might have been the Dragon that attacked his master before you showed up at the last second to be his backup.
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https://exhentai.org/g/1091359/729d8f2b70/
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>>183748873
Thanks anon.
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>>183748873

We need more EO doujins where the girl is the aggressor.
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>>183745452
Another quick question; does rest get rid of two skill points or just two levels? I ask because I now want to get rid of all of these levels in Chop.
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>>183750045

Rest takes off 2 levels and completely resets your skill points.
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>>183750198
Alright.
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ded
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>>183748873
>page 13
Where is my Wufan and Medium doujin?
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>>183756008
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>>183743336
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>>183726321
It's made with cum.
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>>183762861
What meta does squidfang use?
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>trying to make buccaneer work despite suddenly realizing blonde male buccaneer looks like he's smoke some marijuana on the DS (red shade to his eyes)
>going rapier because why not swords are cool I like swords
>arbalist in backrow can learn barrage-- apparently deals strike/elemental damage, guess I'll take the strike-chaser thing to follow off her
>use it
>doesn't work
>use it again but with pierce chase
>chases
>the skill description for barrage literally said pierce/[element] damage
fug
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>>183740941
Hexer is unpopular? It's one of the most renown classes.
You can skip a Medic but I prefer to have some source of heal that is not items. Which means another suppoert like Troub or a hybrid like War Magus is enough.
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>>183738903
Bow Rogue is early game build since they peak rather early and then get nothing new. Dagger Rogue is late game build becaus they need a lot of skill points to make up for using daggers.
Both healers (Princess and Healer) can restore MANA so after a while you don't need to stay at inns anymore.
Staying at inns makes some Bloom return and sometimes revives dragons.

Also the difficulty is highest right at the start and then jumps off a cliff. Only the post-game gets challenging again, sadly.
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>>183747507
>make a few max level Take/Mine/Chop grimores
The higher the level of your characters the bigger the chance to actually get high level Grimoires.
Unless you already are 90+ getting high level Grimoires of passives can take hours if not days.
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>>183764892
This anon is correct. It took me 50 hours of grimoire hunting to get a level 10 (I don't remember the name) passive healing skill from the Protector tree grimoire.
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>>183764338
That's because the elemental Chasers are gun skills and you said you are using a rapier...
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>>183404312
Rance VI and Labyrinth of Touhou 2 for me but I do like Etrian Odyssey games a lot. Etrian Odyssey is definitely one of the better dungeon crawling series out there and beats the shit out of the million drpg kusoge on Vita.
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>>183764260
H-3 Nozzlenose
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>>183403304
Stop immediately
Remove shitposters
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>>183765331
But then the general would be empty...
Most of /vg/ would be, actually.
Most of 4chan even. And then where would we go?
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>>183765563
Good point.
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>>183765331
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>>183765234
She seems more like a rollerfag to me
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>>183765730
Nene can solo EOV
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>>183412858
I found the original image, but I can't find out who drew it. Does anyone knew who drew this? It's super cute,
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>>183767486
Gee, I wonder who Atlus would make promotional art for them.
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>>183767605
Are you implying that its Yuji Himukai?
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>>183767605

Nomura?
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>>183767685
Superzonbi
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>>183767486
Isn't that picture in the official artbook for EO and EOII?
I'm pretty sure that's an original Himukai.
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>>183768901
Do you mean the Untold I&II or Forests of Eternity?

That might explain why I haven't seen it yet. I need to pick up the artbooks pretty soon.
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>>183740941
Hexer is super popular, with maybe the exception of EO1 where it's acquired super late. You've got the proper mindset for the class, though -- preventing attacks is 100% damage mitigation, after all.
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>>183769605
https://e-hentai.org/s/8a3be5e891/883606-11
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>>183769614
All ailments just working against a single "ailment resistance" also limited Hexer in EO.
Bind rates were usually good but since they didn't want bosses to get feared or confused they also fucked over all other ailments.

I think it's still the same in EOII but there Hexer has some... other methods to contribute.
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>>183767939
Superzombie is the best name ever.
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>>183769906
>>183768901
My hero(es). Thank you for the link as well, I didn't search hard enough it appears.

>>183767939

And thanks for showing me Super Zombie, they have some fantastic art.
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my shitpost folder is running out, please help me
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>>183771136
Looks like you are already heloing yourself by making new shitposts.
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>>183771257
My ideas are also running out
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>>183771332
Bananashark
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>>183771136
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>>183771136
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>>183771663
That's good
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>>183771830
Why can't medico not be a slut?
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>>183773345
She found fanart of herself and some deer.
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>>183773789
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>>183774057
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>>183774891
Deer are for fornicating with adventurers, not for being eaten by them!!!
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>>183775029
She's just into vore, chill.
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>>183775029
Why not both?
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>>183775029
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>>183775389
She looks like the yuyushiki girl
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>>183775524

It may be intentional.
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>>183775635
>No part 1 or 3
Please someone
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>>183776159
I'm always shocked how few bestiality doujins there are of EO.
There are some but usually it's rape or tentacle rape.
Where are all the deer and other FOE doujins at?
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>>183777271
Fuck that!
Where are the sheep doujins?
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>>183777775

Leave the sheep alone.
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>>183777946
Sheep are for sleeping with.
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>>183777775
>>183777946
>>183778109
Sheep on sheep doujins when? With Nightmare Rams in the mix.
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>>183765730
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>>183782420
Is that the Shiny Rod?
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>>183782453
it looks shiny enough
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>>183775389
Sauce me, anon!
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>>183783603
http://www.dlsite.com/ecchi-eng/work/=/product_id/RE187197.html
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>>183783780
Many thanks.
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Silly rabbit, tits are for worst girls.
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Leave EO to Nene.
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Is it just me or do the girls just keep getting bester and bester?
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>>183788306
But Medico doesn't have tits?
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>>183789262
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I like Etrian Odyssey.
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>>183789657
Weird.
We're all here because we just like the girls.
We don't actually play the games, try /v/.
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I like cereal.
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>>183789657
Harsh but true.
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>>183789657
Me too
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>>183789797
Don't send people to /v/, not even as a joke.
Someone might actually go and take a look at it...
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>>183789797
Weird.
We're all here because we like the girls and the games.
We actually play the games, and you probably belong on /v/.
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>>183789992
I bet you even have fun playing the games...
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>>183790830
I do quite like the polish on the 3ds games. I haven't started III yet, and it'd most likely have to be on an emulator, but I want to play it someday
Because I like playing the games.
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>>183788819
I want to leg bind Nene to see her struggle.
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Hello wonderful people. I wanted to ask, is there anywhere I could find the damage values for EOUs class skills? I mean like how with how you can see 130% damage for a skill that'll increase as you level it with 3/4/5s skill sim.
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>>183792181
Just be aware that it is multiple steps backwards in the QoL department and that the classes were made for theming more than for balance.
Some of them are pretty bad, sadly.
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>>183793168
Afaik no datamining has been done.
So the best I know abou is the fairly incomplete, hand tested Japanese wiki.
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww63.atwiki.jp%2Fsekaiju_mazev%2F
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>>183792208
>implying Nene doesn't carry leg bind resist↑↑↑↑↑↑↑ accessory
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What is your favorite class across the entire series and why isn't it the hoplite?
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>>183794319
Doesn't that lower her evade since it's a filled wquipment slot?
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>>183794635
I don't think you know just how fast Nene is.
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>>183794634
But it is Hoplite.
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>>183794774
Aren't bunnies faster? And also so stronger?
So basically better at any of Nene's jobs than Nene?
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>>183793191
Are there any classes I should not even try to use? I was thinking of
>Gladiator / Hoplite / Princess
>Arbalist / Zodiac
If I ever get around to it. Also, is not having a stylus just as annoying as I imagine it to be?
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>>183794928
Confirmed for not having played the game.
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>>183793168
There are a couple of dataminers at gameFAQs, look there.
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>>183795060
All solid classes you have there - just don't pick maces for Gladiator, their sword skills are straight up better.
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>>183795074
What's why I'm asking.
From the pure numbers it seems bunnies are superior to Nene in both Fencer specs. Or does LUC have a major influence to dodging?
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>>183764769
>Princess
>healer
heh, just noticed she learns cure. I was going for fear and heated words
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>>183795557
Oh.. Well I guess that can slide.
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>>183795694
Fake numbers. Not everything in the skill sim has the correct formulas.
Nene's skills have more priority .
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>>183795807
I never had much luck with ailments in 7th Dragon.
I went for Cure and then the damage buff, life reg and mana reg.

7th Dragon has 5 slots total that are shared by buffs and debuffs. So you can stack more things but they can also get pushed out by the enemy throwing debuffs at you.
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>>183795927
>Nene's skills have more priority .
wat. Nene and fencer bunny will both have exactly the same skills, racial skills aside. Which are in favour of bunnies.
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>>183796349
NENE IS BETTER!
HIMUKAI SAID SO!
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>>183796275
So, ailments are shit. Goddamn I got tricked again
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>>183795557
Also, which Hoplite should I pick: Twintails or Bobcut?
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>>183797120
Twintails are life.
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>>183797256
Hmm.. I'll need a bit more convincing.
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>>183797096
I'm not too deep into the formulas but iirc most things that actually matter (dragons and bosses) are fairly resistant. And there was something that higher level enemies take longer to recover or something strange like that.
Anyways, mid-game dragons can get clobbered down rather quickly anyways so ailments are less necessary anyways.
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>>183797672
Twintails are the resilience of youth.
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>>183797120
I prefer twintails but there is a bobcut Fortress in EOIV and a bobcut Dragoon in EOV (which you can give fitting hair and eye colour because if the new character creator). So there is that if you want some head canon consistency.
Twintails are still superior.
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>>183797120
Twintails.
Bobcut is in IV and V
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>>183798014
Yeah, that's the stuff.. post more
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>>183798294
やっぱり変態さんですね
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>>183798294
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>>183798435
違う ;_;
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>>183794823
My brother of excellent taste. How come more classes never utilized mechanics that shift them between rows? Or did later installations do this as well?
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>>183798937
Well, switching positions no longer takes a turn in the 3DS games so maybe they thought it wasn't necessary or something.
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>>183799145
>switching positions no longer takes a turn in the 3DS games
Interesting to hear.
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>bro mind if I fuck your dog?
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>>183799889
>You'll have to settle for sloppy seconds, but okay
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>>183799889
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Bunnies when
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>>183796584
Nene is pene
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>>183801053
Nene la meme
tres mal meme
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>>183801053
>pene
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>>183800973
gunnie bunny
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>>183803997
spicy penne nene meme
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>>183765056
rapier can chase slash/pierce/thrust
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Please send good luck to this little fanger, soon on her way
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>>183807769
Post pictures when you get her.
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>>183807769
"Used" I bet.
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>>183800973
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>>183392434
>Shiny King Dragonfly + Shiny Silkbinder
they gonna be goin' to jail for raping my adventurers
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>>183808425
>Never opened
I bet she's been really lonely :(
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>>183810543
But she will get safed so it is a happy end!
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>>183807769
>Doctor Magus
Fang has a doctorate!?
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>>183812350
War revive got her through med school
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>>183810543
You don't need to open the packaging to get a syringe, and inject hot glue into the box
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>>183813440
I'm not listening to this. Take your trash elsewhere ;_;
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>>183813668
Your Fang will be as pristine and cute as a Fang ought to be.
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I want to etrian her odyssey!
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>>183815909
So you want to explore her labyrinth?
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>>183815909
bonkyubon!
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>>183815909
I would be happy if I could just see her dance...
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>>183815909
Why is brighter hair than skin just so amazing?
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>>183817251
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>>183820364
Been out of the loop for anime recently. Is this Konosuba?
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>>183820364
Oh... Oh my! Thanks, anon.
Sadly not brown but I take it.
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>>183820972
Gargantia
It's shit
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>>183821834
How so? It has every EO player's favourite element unjustified genocide
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>>183821834
Thanks.
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>>183822049
>unjustified
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>>183822375
>they won't let me pass, they must DIE
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>>183822471
>they want to go through here - let's kill them
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>>183822471

Sounds like a perfectly valid reason to me.
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>>183822705
Hey Samus, how did that metroid genocide go? Did that make the galaxy a safer place?
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No bully.
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>>183822994
Sure did.
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>>183823241
Only if you don't bully first.
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>>183822630
>people invade your home territory
>want them to fuck off
>this is a bad thing
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>>183826689
Fucking off is exactly what adventurers want to do - the whole stratum could be done in fifteen minutes if salads would not block your progress wherever they can.
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>>183826923
Let's also ignore the fact that adventurers will try to kill the core of the tree you live in.
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>>183826923
And every stratum would be much shorter if the entries and exits were next to each other without obstructions rather than with mazes in between.
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>>183827157
That wants to destroy the entire world, including the tree and salads.
Are you seriously defending actual demon-worshippers?
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>>183827157
>her tribe's true purpose: to help in defeating their god, revealed to be the core
Untold reveals her to be retarded since her whole existence is to kill the tribes God.
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>>183827253
But the other stratums are filled with mindless animals that just attack you.
Salads want you to go away. You want to go to the next stratum. Instead of seeing that your interests align Salads block your progress, making your stay that much longer.
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>>183827950
I think outside of the warp maze and the last stratum before Shinjuku the obstacles were purely geographical.
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birbs > salads
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>>183828186
In the original EOs FOEs were a bit different than they are now - they were basically slightly stronger enemies instead of mid-bosses.
More akin to the asshole bird of the second floor of EOII. A thread but nothing you could not beat comfortably rather soon after encountering it first.

In the 4th Stratum enemies were positioned in a way that made them impossible to evade.
So they really hindered your progress in addition to the winding paths.
Also you needed to kill all FOEs on the 20th floor or Iwo the thunder bird would just get revived (and somehow hold the door to the 5th Stratum shut).
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>>183828339
Birds manage to be bros and help what is right even if it is implied that they faithfully fullfil their duty of carrying dead advernturers to the Overlord.
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>>183827681
>>183827773
Yeah Untold 1 had to make a retcon, but there's no explanation in the first game.
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>>183829528
I think they went too far with the retcon.
Adding Yggdrasil Core as an destructive evil being is enough.
It could have been an interesting but conflicting story about doing what needs to be done. They could have even made some events where you have mercy with forest folk that are not attacking you to make the party seem less heartless.
With Simon (and to a lesser extend Arthur) you have a first-hand accord as to how bad it is if Gungnir gets fired off so wanting to destroy the Core so it doesn't happen is an understandable goal. Most RPGs give you way less insight into the "evil" you are trying to prevent and still expect you to press on...

But someone decided that's not enough to press through hostile natives so there is a lot of pussy-footing around and then some sickness out of nowhere...
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>>183831118
I want to mating_press that bunny.
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Medical Lick.
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>>183831248
>Salads are now sick and that is why they are crazy
>Party slaughters 1000's of salads
>mfw party did nothing wrong
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any suggestions for my current EO2U team? I'm considering dropping my troubador, as I have 4 supportive characters and only two overall who can hit hard. the troub has pretty good damage (especially equipped with double strike grimoire) but most of the time, I'm using him for support buffs, some of which feel redundant.

team is:

Protector/War Magus
Hexer/Troub/Gunner

right now, I could take a swordsman (or whatever they're called in this game) and go either sword or axe. my Magus is cutting damage, and my only bash is protector, who attacks infrequently.

I'm gonna miss the preludes, but even fighting the floor 1 FOE's I feel... underwhelming. I can clear it with ease, but I'm getting suspiscions my damage may be too low. also, I hate the 3 buff limit. my protector is always losing provoke to troub stuff. ofc I can stagger the buffs to avoid this/only give the protector the troub skills she needs.

Tl;dr can I use troub with this team, or will I be at a loss for damage (with only Magus and gunner as damage, both able to heal if needed)
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I'm playing through Untold for the first time. Does the massive amount of TP you consume by just doing standard dungeon crawling ever decrease? Finishing the first sanctum had me going back to recharge at least five or six times in order to force my way through the FOEs.
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>>183837828
>force my way through the FOEs
That's your problem, you musclehead.
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>>183838346
But if I don't kill them, then I don't get XP AND I can't map out the map.
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>>183838628
There is always a way to avoid them, usually involving clever movements and understading their behavior. You get EXP with normal battles and doing the bar quests (you really should do all of them as soon as they appear if you're able).
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>>183838783
So should I just never fight FOEs unless if it's 100% necessary?
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>playing EOIIU
>around level 10 for full party
>can kill the floor 1 deer without too much worry
>running both Hexer and Dark Hunter
>ailments are level 4 (right before the cost increases)
>still only get 1 fucking bind or ailment per dozen casts
But why
Is this shit even worth it?
Like, at least the DH does damage on bind whiffs, but the Hexer does fucking fuck-all
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>>183839234
Yeah, that's usually what you should do. Also, you might want to go into an FOE hunt after you clear a stratum, so you don't miss on the equipment you can make from their drops.
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>>183839234
It's up to you. But if you have to "force your way", then it miught be better to avoid them.
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>>183839918
>>183839693
Thanks.
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>>183836448
add DH if you want to be pro and obliterate everything. WM + DH both do good damage with ailments, DH damage skyrockets with preludes and snake eyes. Most of troubadour's use comes from preludes so you can slap those on grimoires for a passable substitute. Land is much bulkier than either DH or WM but his damage won't be as good. You don't really need physical damage coverage because WH does almighty damage and Gunner does elemental. Bash is rarely worth a whole lot.

>>183839639
>ailments are level 4
Stop that shit and get Curse Mastery to 10. It's more useful to buff all the ailments at once without jacking the TP costs. Plus you need it for Fear anyway which is the golden ailment. Then you can dump Curb atk to get Chained Benefit. Passives add a lot to Hexer and you can always grab Perseverance on a grimoire if it's still too bad. DH + H is the strongest thing in the game but ailments are always RNG driven so you can ditch it if you want more stability. Stats also play a role in landing ailments so more levels always helps too.
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>>183841395
thanks. I think I'll swap Troub for DH. the synergy sounds great with the WM damage I already have. especially with prelude grimoire, which I'm sure I have a handful of
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>>183829168
I played the original EO (haven't played EOU) and I don't remember the 4th stratum FOE's being a deliberate hazard until the final floor. Even looking at the maps for the floor it only seems like Floors 19 and 20 are the ones with implacable (the manticore boss non-withstanding) FOE placement. I haven't played that game in over a decade but that was my impression that the forest people weren't dead set on stopping you until those last two floors in the stratum. Outside of that you were finding them in random encounters which isn't the same as placing an FOE directly in your path.

As an aside I really did love that aspect of Etrian Odyssey and it's one of my more enduring memories of the game are those of the ecosystems of the dungeon itself. Special mention goes to the Azure Rainforest because I remember finding it very weird that I went from frogs and turtles to ants only to realize I just stepped into a massive hive and how they had the various FOE types act. I recently returned to the series to finally finish the NDS titles and I'm hoping that II and III continue to make FOE placements and behaviors interesting. And given what I've seen in the last couple of threads I've been in that seems to be the case. I just wish I had as much time as I did back in the day to power through a stratum.
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No sleeping yet.
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>You don't get credit for enemies dying from poison, or from killing themselves/each other via suicide/conflict word
Right.
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>>183848054
Same with bosses.
What a retarded game and I don't really think they fixed this shit in the second game
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Fang!
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>>183848303
>EMD2 changelog
>Amber removed completely because you could rely on it to keep your FP topped off
>Claw Mole 'Throw Stone' range tripled
>Diminishing returns on status ailments introduced
>Enemies that kill each other will get 100% credit for the kill and level up
>Enemy defenses and HP doubled
>Blizzard King will now abduct lolis from your roster and fuck them to death
Can't wait
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>>183851098
>Blizzard King will now abduct lolis from your roster and fuck them to death
I want to watch that.
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>>183851098
>More enemies can inflict confusion and all the dungeons are cliff-style instead of having walls.
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>>183855208
>And then she lost to the cock
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How can I play the US version when it comes out on my yurop 3ds? Do I need to import/change eshop region somehow?
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>>183856786
You homebrew your 3DS
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>>183709986
>>183708618
May or may not do these
>>183708443
I can't even begin to do such a thing
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>>183863505
ded
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>>183864601

ill ded u
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>>183864840
>>183863505
I want to fuck these corpses.
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>>183865229
I'd rather fill her dark soul with light
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>>183839639
Curse Mastery, Curb Atk. Up, LUC equipment and use Creeping Curse (the Force Boost) against FOEs and bosses.

EO2U Hexer has the most accurate ailments and binds in the entire series so you should hit often unless you just get super unlucky.
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>>183866820
>>183867190
>>183865390
Reported for posting gore.
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>>183866373
Don't forget grimoires that grant BONUS ailment and bind chance
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>>183868313
I'm going to cover this corpse with my semen.
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>>183869505
>>183869505
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