agdg - Amateur Game Development General

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Reminder

>>183366182
Everything is hard when you're not good at it.

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>>183366008

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Are they right?

>>183366529
link?

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>>183366598
whaddup

No game huh?

my little brain stopped working, time for art

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Starting to model the wind themed overworld. First up is a windmill that's not completely done yet but Im going to bed and I wanted to post something before I sleep.

>>183367859
Damn this looks sweet

>>183367859
Tis looks cute but those boulders sticking out of windmill look strange.

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Just finished my most sophisticated render as I learn self-modeling. Made the couch, blankets, pillows, and carpet myself and compiled it with some other models inside a nice room

>>183368371
damn, comfy

>>183368501
Thanks! Took a really long time but I'd like to think it paid off

>>183368248
Looks really nice, well done.

>>183368371
Now optimize the polygons and render normal maps so it can be used in a game.

>>183369239
Oh and bake the lighting.

>>183369293
Oh and put a little girl on the couch

>>183369386
Oh and rape the little girl

>>183369457
Humor is about subtlety and implication, anon.

willing to do an original soundtrack for someone if they want

>>183369573
where do i sign up

>>183369573
what instruments do you play?

should dev but 2 lazy

nothin else 2 do either

ok

>>183369641
I am a guitarist but I play most mainstream instruments proficiently
>>183369619
whats your email we can talk

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>>183369570

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>>183369239
>>183369293
>>183369386
>>183369457
All wonderful bits of advice I will be certain to put to good use. If raping the girl will drastically improve my scene then it must be done

>unity lets you override sprite geometry (tris/verts) but not the uvs which are read-only so if you want to change them you have to abandon their sprite system completely and implement your own
>2015 post from unity dev says "we know this shortcoming and are working on it"
love this engine

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>>183366182
pixel art is easy except when you're pixeling fucking grass. especially in a cartoon style.

>>183370923
Grass is easy though, like your picture, you just have to imply it with the edges and perhaps a few obvious blades here and there, the bulk of it can be a flat fucking color.

>>183366529
>so desperate to shitpost that has to ask others to help him
that's a new low

>>183371207
doesn't look good though. it needs...something else.

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Today I did nothing

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Cleaned the tiles a little and put them in the game to see how they look. I'll probably add some barrels and lamps later, but I'm pretty happy.

>>183371448
I enjoyed that

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Three reloads left to add, and a jam clear.

>>183371539
damn, looks nice

You're probably gonna keep getting the same questions about what game that is for, etc

Anyway, I dig your progress and the fact that you keep coming back when you have something new to show. Keep it up!

Also, btw, no aiming down sights?

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>>183371621
I don't think this game has a title right now, I'm just contracted to make it with the internal name being "Tactical FPS"

ADS wasn't in the task list for this, so I assume they'll be doing the ADS with scripting in engine.

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did some experiments with randomizing the floor texture and stuff

the variety was cool but it destroyed all art cohesion so im not gonna do that now

>>183371521
Gotta say, this looks very nice, really nailed that "looks like NES but better" style.
One thing though and I'm sure you noticed, but your character movement is quite jittery.
>>183371539
>>183371712
Looks smooth,slick and professional as always.

>>183372076
Thanks, that's exactly the feeling I wanted to get with it.
I'm kinda following NES restrictions to a degree too, at least on the resolution, color palette and amount of them on screen, I'm probably way over the amount of sprites though, but I'm not gonna check, the original game had a lot of flickering issues anyway.
About the jittery walking, I noticed that too and I'm confused about it because I don't remember it happening before. I have been messing with the player's walking speed recently so I probably fucked up something there. I'll check it and fix it later.

>>183371539
>>183371712

minor nitpick - when reloading a rifle you generally want to keep it pointing towards where you're going to aim, to keep your gun on-target as much as possible; while in these reload anims he's moving the gun around a lot as he's reloading

just thought I'd point that out as it's for a tactical fps

Would you rather have a game start in fullscreen or windowed mode when you first launch it?

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>>183372812
I own several guns and know how they work, but even for realistic games you compromise aspects for game feel. The rifle doesn't go _too_ far from center and is always pointing forward though. Only time it isn't is on the draw, but when it's pointing sideways it's before there is a round in the chamber.

Not sure if you've manipulated weapons in real life but keeping them 100% forward is not really a possibility/comfortable.

>>183372946
kino: windowed fullscreen
video game: fullscreen
game: windowed

>>183371539
is it weird that i'm able to hear (in my head) all the noises?

>>183372946
Make a launcher where you can choose that, and your resolution before the game itself launches. Easy way to please both crowds.

>>183373006
to clarify I meant this particular webm

>>183371712

the ar-15 reloads look fine, but that one looks weird because he's pointing it almost completely straight upwards

>>183373086
I associate pre-game launchers with laziness, it's either a bad console port or a Unity developer who couldn't be bothered to make a graphics/key binding menu.

>>183372946
If I can't make the game windowed within the first 20 seconds I'm uninstalling the game and never touching it again.

>>183372946
it doesn't matter, just make sure the player can easily ALT+Enter to toggle fullscreen.

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>>183373143
Oh okay. That one isn't for the same game, the CZ805 set is for more of a Battlefield/CoD style of game. Flashiness over realism for that one.

>>183373272
ah, okay, thanks for clearing that up
regardless, your animations look good, keep up the great work

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>>183373359
As a general rule of thumb I make different crosshairs in my scenes for each different game I work on, so if the crosshairs are different the game is different.

>>183373156
If you can make it look good, then there's not much issue, but I too would personally opt for no pre-game launcher and just going straight in to windowed fullscreen (if supported, if not, fullscreen usually, can differ on the type of game).

As an example of good pre-game launcher, Bethesda games, to play around with mods. An example of a shitty one, Starbound, it's fucking huge and it's only purpose is to choose between regular client and server (leave that shit to the platform, like how GTA V, Civ V/VI, etc. gives the option when running from Steam).;

>>183372946
Depends on the player to be honest. I personally prefer Windowed.
Anything is ok as long as you can switch with a keypress without shit changing my resolution. Even better, if you can add bordeless window too.

SDL or SFML?
SFML seems a lot more organized and OOP friendly

whats the name of that really shitty youtube video series about video games, they did a video on radio crunch. anyone know the one I mean?

>>183373759
SDL because SFML is too easy

>>183373906
Is there a real drawback?

>>183373759
If you want to make a game and not care about reimplementing the wheel or finding libraries to implement basic shit then use SFML.


If you wanna go the autistic route use SDL.

If I move my game to early acess, do I stop being /agdg/?

>>183373992
You will have to do more things yourself if you choose SDL

>>183374210
No? What do you mean?

>>183373906
>>183374045
Sounds like SDL is for smart people and SFML is for pajeets who are too dumb to program properly and think Java is better than C++.

>>183374310
I mean, if my game is published but still in work am I still welcome to post progress here?

>>183374375
Of course. Progress is still progress no matter what stage your game is in.

>>183374498
Great.

Any recommended tutorials/examples for making a game in SFML?

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>>183374552
Progress is progress.

Haven't really worked on this thing this week, been busy with work.

I now have 4 basic spells (fire / frost spray + fireball/frostball).

I'll try to get a demo out this weekend, I'll propably implement player stats (str, def, magic at least) before that.

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took a couple days off from making assets to make a promotional image

from today its back to making pixel animations... but now i can make a proper twitter.

will post some progress soon

>>183374885
Is the stick figure supposed to be the killer?

>>183374885
Can I self insert as the stickman? can the stick man become a stick-girl (male)?

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part 1
part 2 isn't ready yet

>>183374971
spoiler alert
He is thought to be the killer but all he wants is a hug

>>183374604
Try the tutorials on the official site, they teach you how to use the libs, google somewhere else if you want a bigger scope, like how to make a basic game.

>>183373759
>>183374339
you should actually try them both instead of relying on what you hear. As someone who has used both, a lot of bullshit is being spewed here, right now.

>>183375007
>vaporwave jihad

>>183374993
yeah how else would you play the game

>>183374971
idk.... im tired after 8 hours of precise cell shading and wanted to draw something effortless

>>183375007
et tu brutus

>>183375007
...I'm liking this. This is the game with the possession mechanic, right?

I'm liking the creepy vibes and the subtle world domination undertones.

>>183375282
Yeah, this is going to be the intro for that game.

>>183375393
is there a demo out? A webpage, tumblr, twitter...?

>>183375437
I have a twitter and tumblr:
https://twitter.com/ektomarch
https://fffbbb.tumblr.com/

I've been wanting to put out a demo forever, but I keep delaying it since I also want to release a trailer/various press shit all at the same time, but I haaaate wasting my time with that bullshit even though I realize it's essential if I plan on having more than 3 people playing my game.

>>183372946
I'm 100% sure I'm not a usual case but...

I instantly alt tab away from games that hit me with a fullscreen, which kinda is retarded but yeah. And then I'm 50% likely to just uninstall the game.

(much less so if it's a game that I paid full price for and have been looking forward to).

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Progress

>>183375508
>I realize it's essential
good, we don't want another goodgamenoplayermonolith type deal

thanks for the links!

>>183375761
Does he have extensible legs

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>tfw successful bug fixing

>>183375696
what? But almost all games are like this. Are you saying that almost any game makes you 50% close it and uninstall because it hit you with fullscreen?

>>183375761
Looks nice. Make the lower leg move too, so it doesn't look like it's retracting from the main body and it's great.

pokemon tcg is way more fun than I ever tought it would be.

>>183375007
kino

>>183375696
Do you ever try >>183373265 before just closing and uninstalling it?
Because that is pretty standard to have.

>>183375864
Pretty much.

A lot of indie games start windowed.
Emulated games start windowed.

Those are mostly what I play

>>183375761
lewd

>>183375938
I knew applications tend to have that (when it makes sense, like a video player), didn't think to try with video games for some reason. Will try it out in the future.

>>183376004
>I'm retarded

>>183376024
Okay.

Is there good material that teach you how to separate your code between mechanics and UI/graphics? Its not just about using placeholder sprites, I want the entire graphics/UI code to be a placeholder initially, so it must be completely separated from the rest.
I want to do this because I suck with art and I want to know if my mechanics/gameplay idea is interesting enough after actually implementing it.

I haven't managed to write one line of code in my effort to make my own 2d collision logic with blackjack and hookers on top of Godot. I'm pretty sure I'm not allowed acess to the position variables from other objects I need in order to check and move things by pixels at a time. Or I'm just really dumb and a fraud.

:-(

>>183375943
ah, then that's understandable. Any mainstream game will automatically go fullscreen but now I wonder which is objectivelly the better way to go about it...

>>183375761
Reminds me of dino run

>>183376108
>I want to do this because I suck with art
You're not coding your art, it's data, you will be able to use your shit art with your final rendering code either way.

>>183376004
You didn't know most video games support both windowed and full screen?
Did you just start gaming last year?

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>>183376114
It wouldn't be in the options menu if there was an objectively best choice

>>183376109
doesn't Godot a have a built-in collision system?

>>183374885
Oh this is very good, awesome work. The stickman is just cherry on top of the cake.
>>183375007
Really cool.

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>>183376210
indeed, you're right

>>183376189
What i'm saying is that I want both the resource files(sprites and shit) and the rendering code to be placeholders initially, not just one or the other, so I need to know to properly separate them from the rest of the code to avoid massive refactoring later if I actually decide to go on with the game.

>>183376109
Are you looking for an artist?

>>183376370
Then write an abstract interface for these components and only use them through it in your code (only refer to publicly available functions/virtual methods etc). That's basic modularity, it's how it's done nearly everywhere.

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>hoarded tens of thousands of reference images
>a lot of those are useless/low quality/unrelated
>can't be bothered to go through all of them and delete them
help

What's the best way to make platform physics? Everyone does it differently. I just want Mario Bros level physics. GM:S

>>183376553
skim through your folder and post some good ones
would be a ton better contribution to the thread than yet another shitpost

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>>183376832

>>183376370
That's elementary encapsulation.
How are you going to enginedev if you don't even know basic programming?

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>>183376921

>>183376802
Then program it to feel like Mario Bros.

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>>183377104

>>183376213
The idea was that by implementing a simpler one, I would have more precise control over it for my precise megaman action game, and could make simple code for slopes as implemented here: http://higherorderfun.com/blog/2012/05/20/the-guide-to-implementing-2d-platformers/


I can't seem to fine tune the standard one to my needs. Fuck, I'm doing CS on college, and can't program myself out of an eggshell.

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Next goals: add a trail effect to ship, and add visible ability cooldown graphics for players.

>>183377261
>stars moving

doesnt work like that

>>183377328
it's a very big ship

>>183375175
When I think about it, SFML isn't that difficult but what I struggle at is structuring my code so I can actually make something that werks

>>183377453
Needs visual effects where it constantly rams into stars and destroys star systems.

I want to try make a beat'em up like Streets of Rage.
Which engine would be best? Godot, Unity or Unreal?
I have 0 experience and took a stab at it last year with game maker and found it near-impossible to recreate the faux-3D with consistent working hitboxes.

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I'm experimenting with an Idea of a puzzle game where you are presented with impossible levels and it's your task to alter the game's code to make it beatable and then beat it.

Does this sound like a fun Idea to anyone else?

>>183376191
I know, I just have ADHD and stop wanting to play the game.

>>183377674
>Which engine would be best?
The one you can use.

>>183377261
>>183377328
>>183377453

>ram into planets and watch them explode

>>183377695
yes

>>183377695
>alter the games code

how will you pull that off in real time

>>183377958
An interpreter

>>183377695
How will you prevent the user from doing the same thing every time? e.g. teleporting to destination or something.

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>>183377737
So none of them then

>"oh I need to implement this thing before starting this"
>notice that it is already implemented and you forgot about it
this is a pretty good feeling

>>183378153
Exactly. Making your own engine is the one true way.

>>183378127
There will only be a few variables visible to the user (as seen in the top-left). So you could have the same level twice but depending on what variables the player has access to, the solution can be very different.

>>183374339
>Sounds like SDL is for people newbies (they should learn how to do everything) and enginedevs (they want maximum control) and SFML is for people who actually want to publish games
fixed that for you

Also both SDL and SFML have multiple bindings, including C, you don't have to use C++.

>>183378341
Sounds very limited

>>183377695
There's a game like that already, can't remember the name because it's retared.
Biggest problem was how the entire game could be broken with extremely trivial solutions.

>>183378246
>"oh, I should implement X"
>hack a solution to implement X
>there's actually a really simple solution that takes a tenth of the time to do it better built in the engine

this happened way too many times to me

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messing around, added in-between animations

>>183375007
nice
are you making the blood trail with particles?

>>183376215
thanks

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>>183377674

>>183378517
Are certain engines not better suited for certain projects? Thats not a stretch to claim. However i take the point that it doesnt matter all that much, thank you.

Music composer here.

Tell me what engine your game is using and I'll decide if I want to work with you.

>>183378645
godot
no baiting

>>183378628
>Godot
2D

>Unity
Fast dev, not the most performance, can export to a lot of different places.

>Unreal
Best looking, takes more work to get stuff done, probably better suited for large exploration games with lots of outdoor stuff though.

So basically "beatem up like streets of rage" isn't specific enough

>>183378774
Don't ever reply to me again.

>>183378838
I don't want your shitty music anyway

>>183378409
Might be, I'll probably try to clean up the code, come up with a few levels and enter DD16 and find a buch of other testers.
The feedback will decide if I'm gonna continue or scrap the Idea.

>>183378421
I didn't know this already existed. I'll try to find it to make sure I don't make the same mistakes.

>>183378902
tsun~

>>183378813

so basically godot since streets of rage is 2D (not counting that shitty reboot)

>>183378485
looks great

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>try to optimise bullets
>get less than 30 fps with dips in editor, settings at minimum and nothing but the box collision as visual
>launch the game in standalone
>silky smooth 60fps

Granted it drops at 30fps if I maximize the window (which also breaks the mouse input, not sure why) but I think my computer's more at fault for that.

>>183374707
That spell system looks fun as fuck to use. Keep it up mate.

>>183378645
What tool do you make music with?

>>183378395
What is the difference between two? I only used SDL but SFML looks pretty similar

>>183378645
Post samples or go fuck yourself.

>>183379142
Write it in mml with notepad++

>>183378813
Isnt it? From your brief descriptions it sounds like Unity, "belt scrollers" are faux-3D which i believe is easier to recreate with actual 3D. Ruling out Godot, the game would not be large or ambitious, just a linear scrolling beat'em up like double dragon neon, say. Not trying to blow the world wide open here, just salty they dont make them any more and want to play one.

>>183366230
I'm fully erect right now.

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i spy sort of thing

is it bad that /agdg/ is the only general I bother watching on this board?

>>183379349
Cute!

>>183379349
Her running movement looks weird.

>>183379434
No, most generals are shocking

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>>183379349
Damn nice.

Reminder that there is no "best" engine.
There is, however, a worst engine, and it is Gamebryo

>>183378645
I am writing an engine in Idris and need plenty of funny music, with horns and fart noises and the such.
Can you accomodate me?

>>183378421
>the entire game could be broken with extremely trivial solutions.
Scribblenauts had a similar problem.
The key is just to be restrictive about how much power the player actually has. Consider how Portal is full of inert tiles, to restrict the power of the portal gun.

>>183379349
>All that bullying

Someone should call anti bully ranger.

>>183379157
SFML is higher level, natively OOP, offers direct shader access through its API without having to do the other OpenGL stuff, has more things implemented in network and loads more images by default although this can be done with SDL_image anyways
SDL is backed by a big company and more portable

>>183379349
that banter reminds me of ace attorney. I like it.

These threads actually contain more programming content than dpt

Post cute games.

>>183379157
These are the only reasons to use SDL over SFML:
- You are new to gamedev and you want to know how things work.
- You need a lot of control.
- You just need something to initialize graphics/audio/input for you.
- You need to support some platform SFML doesn't.

SFML comes out of the box with builtin support for cameras, image loading, fonts and text rendering for instance. Transformations and vertex math are a breeze to do and use thanks to the built in classes. There are dedicated/optimized audio classes for multiple uses (for playing music, playing random audio, recording and also for streaming your own samples). Networking is easier too.

>>183380852

>>183379349

>>183379349
is she a robot? why does the image look like that?

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What do you guys think of this pause menu?
Also the Customize section will have equippable abilities later on.

>>183376109
Use Area2D and enter/exit signals

>>183379349
>I didn't ask you

Fucking cunt

5 minutes until Fortnite reveals the power of Unreal 4 to the public.. unityshitters on suicide watch

>>183381050
the angle is very jarring imo

>>183381251
>10 years of dev for some shovelware
So... is this... thé power of UE4?

>>183379349
why the fuck is she looking thru the phone instead of just using the phone's light?

why does her phone have scanlines? i've never heard of cathode tube mobile phones.

why does her phone's screen have raster scanning artifacts?
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>183381251
What is happening?

I know the 'cinematic' trailer was done in UE4 though, I thought that was pretty cool.

>>183381050
I'm getting flashbacks from Path of exile.
That kind of skill tree is awful, please don't do that. Ever.

>>183381050
>all those informations
Whoa, it's a bit overwhelming to say at least.
Also the buttons themselves look kinda plain, they could be bit juicier.
But not bad, just try to simplify it a bit.

I am a font-crafter, hoping to meet someone who is constructing a written and spoken language for their game.
Tell me about your anime preferences in order for us to figure out if this will be a suitable pairing.

>>183378645
*memes on u*

>>183381610
Boku no Bible Black

>>183381610
The meme is becoming self-aware.

>>183381083
will try

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>>183381446
Don't worry I made it pretty simple. I'm planning on letting the player get all the spaces or at least 75% of them in one playthrough. Also, resetting the board won't really cost anything. So if you fuck up your build and feel like you can't proceed further you can always reset it on the spot.

How it works is, you start in the middle and can only take a space directly adjacent to the ones you own. For example, at the second level, you can only take +2hp, +2en, +2ppow, or +2mpow. You can't go diagonal.

I hope I explained that properly. For a simple RPG, is that too much? I've always been into customization like this.

>>183381610
Evangelion, Gundam (particularly 0080), Yurikuma Arashi (no really), The Tatami Galaxy, Ghost in the Shell (haven't seen arise), Serial Experiments Lain, Michiko to Hatchin. Ergo proxy was okay.

>>183381610
I've never watched anime but I like that hamster girl and I'd totally fuck that sister in the incest one

And her friend.

>>183381946
That's cool! Unfortunately I don't think this is going to work for me. May fortune follow you in everything you do, but I am not willing to work with you.

>>183381703
>>183382021
yeah ok maybe

>>183381917
Being able to 100% a skill tree is bad, because it changes "what do I upgrade" to "what order do I upgrade in."

If you must make it possible, make it require extreme grinding and/or multiple NG+ runs.

>>183381610
this should be bannable offense yo

>>183382105
>>183382021
>>183381946
>>183381896
>>183381703
>>183381610
You think you're being hilarious but you're just cluttering the thread.

>>183381610
I am willing to watch any anime with mecha. If you have recommendations I'll put them on my list.

>>183381917
I hate it. You have 169 squares but only 12 abilities.
90% of the tree is passive, why does it need to be a tree instead of being just Str/Dex/Int/Wis/Dick/Balls allocation ?

>>183382163
>"what order do I upgrade in."

And what's bad about that?

Dumb nodev.

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>>183382105
could have just thanked me for the suggestions anon

>>183379349
Damn nice

>>183378485
Neat

>>183382246
at least he's obviously being ironic unlike the other nigger who just pretends he's a retarded artist who "gets memed on by the general" all the time yet comes back like a beaten wife

Where does the
>Just Like Make Game
motto come from?

>>183382246
There is not a finite supply of threads so relax

>>183376921
This is amazing

>>183382429
back when demoday had corporate sponsorship it was a suggested "catch phrase"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-T4VVZrmkA

>>183377695
hack n' slash did this
the problem is either you limit what the player can do (bad) or the game becomes trivial very quickly when something overpowered is found (bad)

>>183382487
Yatagarasu

>>183382281
Since you aren't going to specialize anyway, it means there's really no reason to pick anything non-optimal; you won't get a new gameplay experience by leveling magic before melee if melee is stronger, because by the end of the game you'll be using melee again.

The point of a customizable skill system is to have multiple viable, unique builds.

Dumb casual.

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>>183382262
because that's pretty boring. but I did think about doing that at first, and might even do a mix of a board and an allocation tree if this doesn't work out.
>>183382163
>>183382262
I'll think it over, I just like the idea of maxing out the board without repeating content.

>>183381050
Looks qt. Where do you post progress for it?

>>183378485
I'm not sure I like the black dot nose on the thot. It looks like the kind of black dot nose they'd put on some furry dog character, especially in conjunction with the dog-ear like hair.

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>>183382536
What the fuck is this

>>183382429
Every time someone makes one of those word bubbles of an /agdg/ thread "Just like make game" are usually the largest 4 words. So that became the motto.

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>>183382429
It is from the time when people regularly made word clouds from the thread, just like make game were always prominent words.

>>183382429

Hideo Kojima when asked for advice for upcoming game developers who want to make it big he just said in his broken english "Just Rike Make Gaym"

Just Like Make Game is the motto now

>>183382645
I got a tumblr but I usually post here or discord. I kinda just started the project.
renoki3d.tumblr.com

>>183382701
>gogem.pro
I take it things haven't changed much

>>183382756
That one is like a month old

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>>183382669
>>183382701
>seems hard
Thanks for the answer

>>183382429
Miyamoto was asked for advice for upcoming game developers who want to make it big. He chuckled and just said in his broken English: "Just Rike Make Gaym"

Just Like Make Game is the motto now.

>moving diagonally is faster than moving on cardinal directions
How do I refund this piece of shit Monolith game?

>>183382669
>>183382701
That's pretty cool.
I assumed it was consciously formulated as an ironic joke since it implies making games is easy.

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>been working on my engine for +6 months
>accidentally tried to google how to do something with a system I've implemented myself 3 months ago

Holy fuck I should've written everything down as I went along.

>>183382429
Googem was asked for advice for upcoming game developers who want to make it big. He chuckled and just said in his broken Australian: "Just Rike Make Gaym"

Just Like Make Game is the motto now.

>>183379349
Really cool

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>>183381446

> shit taste detected

Path of Exile has the greatest skill tree in gaming history.

Here is the skill tree I'm doing.

>>183382730
Oh you were making that sidescroller with the floating sword? Nice!

>>183379349
post twitter

>>183382932
Path of Exile skill tree is the worst game design element in the history of gaming.

>>183382878
It doesn't really imply that. A lot of people procrastinate and make excuses when they could just like make game instead. Even if making a game is hard you'll never get better without making game.

>>183383093
>Even if making a game is hard you'll never get better without making game
Some top tier Buddhist shit right there

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>>183382429
M. Kirkbride was asked for advice for upcoming game developers who want to make it big. He chuckled and just said in his broken English: "CHIM JLMG ALMSIVI"

Just Like Make Game is the motto now.

>>183383037
t. crybaby casual who needs a class system to hold his hand

>>183383194
t. retard who thinks complexity = design

>>183382932
greatest in size maybe
all it does is making leveling feel like a chore with useless "+X% to Y" nodes.

compare it to an actual skill system like SMT Digital Devil Saga 2 had and it simply falls flat.

>>183375007
The Giant Chicken Leg in the background is definetly my favourite part of this.
I want KFC now

>>183383269
It's not complex, though.

>>183382906
let's see the game

>>183382756
Also, it's at the very bottom. Poetry.

>>183383269
>complex
are you like 4 years old?

>>183383194
Path of exile has classes though

It's all garbage

>>183383468
But the class system doesn't hold your hand.

>>183383323
There's nothing to show yet, I'm still working on the back-end stuff.

>>183383312
>>183383442
>Complex
>consisting of many different and connected parts.

Do you even speak English?

>>183383530
do you ever feel that you are making a mistake by not just writing your own language?

>>183383515
Not holding someone's hand has nothing to do with it being good.

Unless everything that's obtuse is automatically good in your retarded world.

>>183382282
>kept the user's body safe but let the heart tormented
nice

>>183383537
>buying nodes that buff my favorite spell is really complicated!
This is why we think you're retarded

>>183383537
In this anon's defense he did say complex and not complicated.

>>183383697
Who was talking about it being complicated? Is your reading comprehension on the level of a 3rd grader?

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Is there no way to make particles billboarded on several axes? I assume that's why they're getting cut off like this.

>>183382932
I've seen like 50 images from your game but not a single demonstration of gameplay

what is going on

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>>183383037
>>183383282

Your pleb tastes are astounding. I bet you liked the WoW skill revamp and Diablo 3 skill system as well.

Utterly disgusting.

The beauty of the PoE skill tree is that it accentuates items and abilities. It's less of a 'skill' tree and more of a modification tree.

The skill system is in the gems. Which was another great system.

>>183383628
Occasionally.

My language would be so elegant, and it'd be specifically made for MY game so extra performance. But maybe in another decade.

>>183383841
>It's less of a 'skill' tree and more of a modification tree.

Seeing as 70% of the choices are +10 stats, I'd say it's more of a filler tree.

Why aren't you using C++?

Making a tactics game, just had a general gameplay question. Is Overwatch, like in Firaxis' XCOM, a shit mechanic? It seems to encourage extreme turtling. Firaxis tried to stop overwatch spam with the expansion and tried even more interesting the sequel, so I'm wondering if it's worth including at all. I mean, even the devs thought it was a problem so that says a lot to me.

Anyone have any thoughts on it? Just asking now because I'm writing AI, so whether I have to take overwatch into account is a big thing here.

>>183383658
It's not obtuse.
Here's how you make a functioning build:
>pick a spell you like
>buy lots of nodes that make it stronger
>buy lots of health nodes
>spend whatever's left on buffs for your chosen armor type

If you want to optimize, you need to learn game mechanics, but that's true of any RPG.

>>183383979
AGDG told me it was bad

>>183383841
>Stealing from Final Fantasy 7
>Woah look at what great system they have

>>183383979
DPT told me it was bad

>>183383979
I will probably use it with Godot for my next game.

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>>183383839

And you'll see another 50 more before I'll show you my masterpiece.

Stuff like '+1 attack' is boring upgrades, imho.

>>183383980
Just design your maps so the player has to keep moving forward. If your maps allow turtling to win 100% of the time, guess what, your players will always turtle.

>>183384124
Is this in-game, and a working system, or is a mock up all you have?

If it's the latter, please consider suicide.

>>183384124
Or you could go shill your non-game somewhere else

>>183384124
Why do you spend so much time on these elaborate mock-ups instead of just like making game?

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>the attached picture represents my response to your game

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>>183370923
>>183371325
gg ez

>>183384443
>the attached picture represents your game

>>183384124
I understand that your programmer doesn't have much to show yet but please stick to actual progress instead of posting plans and ideas, that time when you actually posted in-game stuff was 10000 times more interesting than all the promotional pics you posted combined.

My only guess why you don't post more in-game stuff is because you don't have a ready, up to date version of the game at all times so I recommend you sort that out and post progress.

>>183384139
I'm with you bruh. I was making a standard RPG where items are stuff like
>ring of fire resistance - reduces fire damage by 5
>sword of electric damage +10
>rage increases attack damage by 5% every level

Then I got hit by a car, and during my hospital stay I thought a lot about my game and realized that system sucks for singleplayer games.
I've pretty much revamped everything, cut most numbers by a factor of 10. (Players started with 1000 health, now they start with 100). Skills no longer have levels, Rage instantly gives +50% damage, a ring of fire resistance will let you walk through most low level fire spells , a lightning sword will nearly double your DPS output, etc. Overall all magical items feel a lot stronger and more valuable, they actually feel like long lost artifacts now.

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>>183383841
>>183382932
I'll keep saying the same thing. It's full of useless nodes and it turns leveling into a chore. Leveling and thinking "oh hey, I've got +1% critical damage" isn't rewarding, and it only impacts the late game.

Here's DDS2's "mantra grid" which is an actual skill tree, which gives skills. Each party member can only equip a limited amount of skills. It provides a clear, indicative path while leaving the possibility to branch out and try different skills, and they're unlocked by a special kind of experience bar.
It's backed by regular STR/DEX/... stats which raise on level up.
All this forms a cohesive, deep yet clear system.

>>183384443
>>183384524
who are you quoting

>>183384654
>Then I got hit by a car

Are you an anime character?

>>183384676
who are YOU quoting?

>>183384654
>Then I got hit by a car
kekd

>>183384443
It's all garbage

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>>183384717
No, it wasn't a truck.

>>183372946
There's no way to know what the preferences of all individual players are. That said, I would imagine that in a subtle psychological way, windowed mode is less "offensive" than full screen. Thinking of it this way, it depends on your game. If you want your game to be a really engaging/atmospheric one with almost a movie-like quality, then start in full screen. If it's a smaller, more relaxing game, then start in windowed mode.

Either way, just put the option in the options menu and you're fine.

>Compute character movement through transform.forward
>Get to aerial mobility
>Character won't be able to rotate
>Logic is now fucked
Fuck.

>>183384857
H-HAYAI!!

>>183384886
>not writing a language with clifford algebraic primitives
your own fault really

>>183384673
I fucking love DDS but I don't think you can compare a passive tree designed to complement gear and skill gems to an active tree designed to gate abilities.

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>>183384857
>filename

>>183385043
yes you can
DDS's system is good.
PoE's is not.

>>183384673
Stolen

>>183384886
Why can't it rotate? Wont the transform.foward vector always be the forward vector no matter the rotation?

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Car. Pretty plain but I don't think I should spend too much time on assets.

what happened to rotatedev

>>183370923
I love your art

>>183384673
So what's /agdg/'s general advice when making a skill tree?

>>183385305
Yeah but the character shouldn't be able to rotate while in midair.
I.E. 3D Mario physics.

>>183385374
The wheel holes on the body look too low poly compared to the rest of the model. Looks neato though. Is it a hovering car?

>>183385551
Don't

>>183385820
Just make your RPG as SIMPLE as possible, no skills trees, no skill mods, just do what WoW and Diablo 3 do. Why do you think they're the most successful RPGs of all time? Learn from Blizzard.

>>183385551
Make a skill poset instead

>>183385551
water it daily

>>183385820
What if I can't stop the monster inside me from making one?

>>183385953
D3 doesn't have a skill tree? I played WoW back in the day. It didn't have any skilltree?

>>183385551
My advice is to make a bunch of actually interesting skills, how the player gets them is secondary.

>>183385953
Baten Kaitos didn't have skill trees and that was perfectly fine.

>>183386165
26 people played that game if you include me

>>183386165
http://batenkaitos.wikia.com/wiki/Level

>>183386309
Level ups aren't skill trees.

>>183385553
Wait, I don't see the problem then. If the character can't rotate or else it messes up the math, and you don't want it to rotate, what's the problem?

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How do I solve this?

>>183386710
At the moment the character moves via Move(transform.forward) meaning they move only in the direction they're facing.
If they can't rotate, then even when holding back, they will still move forwards because transform.forward doesn't change.

>>183386832
Oh alright, I see now.

>>183385953
I can feel the salt from here. I can taste it.

>>183385602
Yeah true, thanks I'll fix that. It's kind of a hover car, like almost touching the ground but not quite.

What features would the ideal indie/amateur game engine have? I started making a list but am not doing that much game dev:
>Fast build time
>Minimal complexity for content management
>Graph scene structure
>Scripting language easy to make interact with native code and good tools to generate bytecode from text or GUI source
>Scene editor

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What are you working on right now?

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>>183388064
dating sim with only trans anime characters

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>>183384476
not bad. I did this for the long grass. the problem is; I want this grass to appear flatter. i guess having little definition on the shading isn't the answer tho. I think the edges were also too long. I'll work off this more after i get some sleep.

>>183385401
I'm glad, I would like to have posted a finished background today. but I can't help but waste time obsessing over grass.

>>183388064
Designing bosses
It's not as easy as it would be for a non-retard

>>183386729
Just follow the instructions man, put com.ca3games.Chicken on the bundle identifier field, its under other settings

>>183388064
Shitty conquer the city shimulator.

Having fun and learning, though.

>>183388345
http://gas13.ru/v3/tutorials/sywtbapa_almighty_grass_tile.php
http://gas13.ru/v3/tutorials/sywtbapa_de-mystifying_greats_1.php

And by the way, qhat does /agdg/ do during his 5m pomodoro breaks.
Hard mode, no onanism.

>>183382932
This looks pretty good for me anon.

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>>183388384
is not there.

>>183387946
My ideal indie engine already exists, it's Godot.

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>>183388064
More mech designing. I can't figure out how to make a cohesive "spine".

>>183388064
Trying to cure my perfectionism again.

>>183388557
>5m pomodoro breaks.
the what now?

>>183388801
Man, I love mechas.

>>183388850
The pomodoro technique.
Work for 25 minutes.
Rest 5 minutes.
Do a few cycles, then a 25 minute break and the loop restarts.

It's a productivity technique.

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>>183388662
That's weird, keep searching, must be in there somewhere, mine is as in pic related

>>183388742
My only real gripe with it is how slow GDScript is, hopefully 3.0 fixes it with more languages support.

>>183389110
can't find them.

time to give up on this project.

>>183388742
Looks interesting although it has several questionable design choices. But it's open source so I should be able to fix these, just need to see how fast it builds.

>>183388801
For a second I though it was iron tarkus. Close enough.

>>183386019
WoW's talent tree was pruned at some point. Now you just pick one of three abilities every 10 levels. It's pretty shitty.

>>183389012
>Man, I love mechas.
I love them too but I don't get how you could make AC styled mech bend over, and I'm gonna need those kind of movement for melee.

>>183389605
Same devs.

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>>183388064
My new base skeleton is humanoid enough to use premade mecanim animations but importing the skelly as humanoid causes Unity to ignore the armor-bones, which then remain frozen in their standard pose(lots of clipping). So I am trying to come up with an efficient way to move those bones with the body while also using a humanoid rig.

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UE question.

I have two actors, pawn and character. The pawn represent the Enemy Army and has a power level (variable) of 5 (default value).

However it always returns zero in this function.

What is going on?