/felmg/ - Felmyst

FYI, if you are in the guild Apex be aware that myself and five other members are currently planning to gut the guild of the useful members and create our own guild. The leadership here are a bunch of immature reddit fags and will likely not hit cap in any case. If you are like minded then just keep this in the back of your head. We'll likely start the process about two weeks into the server release, once we see who will actually get to 70 and also based upon what our current composition is.

>>183175058
Is that the guild with a page long set of rules about not being racist and other autistic shit?

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One guy to break ALL the /vg/ guilds.

reminder that DMCA has nothing to do with 4chan anymore and is just a normie guild full of clique
remove them from the OP

Why is DMCA even in the OP? They already seem to be a giant clique with an already set core team using loot council.

>>183175223
>>183175228
Why are u so mad roastie?

Now that both <clovermen> and <MoH> are confirmed DoA, what the fuck do we join lads?
Who will save us?

>>183175223
>>183175228
>guilds without loot councils
>clovermen
>sanctuary
Lmao

>>183175327
But i hate roasties you dumb nigger. Trannies too.

>>183175361
Amlith this has to stop.

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Don't mind me, just dropping some MLG 2k+ action ;) (1/2)

>>183175327
so a normie guild can just come here and spam their guild in every threads? retarded af
DMCA is a scam and a clique

>>183175058
embarrassing, end yourself

>>183175187
Forgot what a great texture that is for daggers.

>>183175415
>warmane

L O L

>>183175361
Sanctuary discord:

https://discord.gg/Z5VyXQu

No drama or corruption, gold bid loot system there redistributed to the raid.

I've heard that FF will roll on this server

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>>183175415
Klimp is actually a god.

>>183175539
Why the fuck did people stop using DKP?

>>183175131
No, they're the guild that spams everywhere with shitty memes. They played on Elysium but never hit 60. They moved to Zeth'kur and most of their core didn't hit 60 or if they did, quit shortly afterward:

Nicolas (Brill) - Hit 60 - quit a few days later.
Spartacus (Beckums) - Botted his entire way to 60 - quit a few days later.
Knetik - didn't get to 40

They have a history of trying to start guilds but failing miserably. They're planning on gearing up all of their leadership first and consider the Raider status people to be 'slaves', as per discussion in the officer/class leader chat. It's basically another /vg/ clique but with reddit fags instead that won't bother hitting 70 -- though if they do they'll just take the loot and quit a few weeks later. You're probably better off in a /vg/ guild.

>>183175398
this situation only exist because of you guys
I don't care about sanctuary or clovermen, but those vg threads are a joke and just a way for clique guild to recruit mindless idiot who don't understand LC and never played since the scriptcraft days

>>183174795
You can't expect inhaler to merge his guild with DMCA for 2 main reasons.
1. It would expose inhaler lack of experience and it would alienate all of his guild members, who have been told for weeks that DMCA is a horrible guild and that their guild is their only option, it would instantly kill any hopes for him of a guild.
2. This is the reasonable one, DMCA is loot council, inhaler is proposing an alternative to loot council, I like this one, I hope he doesn't go back down and sticks to non loot council to see how that works out, most of his members are with him for this reason.

>>183175223
>>183175228
delusional shills at full force, go look at your guild chat channel right now and see how many of your members are real, and then divide that in half to see how many will make it to 70.

>>183175107
cry all you want, we are a /vg/ guild and we have been in your position

>>183175058
change your raid times and i'll play with you in your new guild at 70

>>183175617
DKP is just as corrupt as Loot Council, you can manipulate it.

"Hmm I like this guy and want him to get gear, I'll give him a fuckton of DKP for doing easy tasks"

>>183175415
omg, I'm going to get gladiator so easily if THIS is 2k mmr

>>183175636
Good to know. Sucks that there aren't any hardcore horde guilds that aren't already really established. The only one that looked promising had that autistic rule shit I mentioned and I'd rather not have to tip toe around jokes in a guild environment.

>>183175539
you know that literally no one in your guild will actually play with you, raid?
you understand that people are there just to make fun of you, right?

>>183175058
>two weeks into the server release

you mean right when prince dies for the first time? you need to do it earlier if you want to actually be competitive, retard.

ANYONE SAVED VASHJ SPORBATS VIDEO ON WARMANE?

>>183175437
You sound so mad roastie lol, are you ok?

>>183175740
DKP for attendance
DKP for bosses progression clears
DKP for farm bosses downed

There, an egalitarian system that rewards all raiders equally. There is literally nothing wrong or exploitable with it if you have one autist willing to keep track of it via addon.

>>183175398
I'm not joining any /vg/ guild you stupid faggot. I just find it hilarious that <DMCA> recruits stupid people that will never see a single piece of loot because satisfying your long term friend is more important than gearing a superior player.

Just look at the fucking drama in MoH, how is this gonna be any different?

>>183175814
>he fucking deleted it off youtube

Ahahahahaha fucking warmane cucks.

>>183175935
what drama

>>183175709
Raid times will be decided based upon what works best for the new guild. This won't be an off shoot, it will be an entirely new guild based upon the best players from the core of Apex.

>>183175740
I'm not a dkp shill but that's not how most dkp systems work at all, you're making shit up or are a dumb dumb.
There are some great dkp systems that would work for /vg/ guilds that don't simply reward attendance.
LC doesn't always end up "corrupt" but I agree that /vg/ will never put in the effort or research to make it function correctly anyhow, regardless of what they pretend. Using it as a lazy loot method is completely opposite of the entire point of the system. I have a feeling some of them know this and don't care for obvious reasons, while the others are just dumb and that's fine.

>>183175617
Dkp lol
what is
>Inflation.
>People can hoarding dkp
>New members can't get shit
>values of gear to dkp not accurate
>People with a lot of dkp feel like a lot is wasted.
>No use to raid consistently if full geared
>Dkp systems reward being static and not progressing
>Other dkp systems are impossible to get everyone geared before progressing

Goldloot and EPGP are the only good system and EPGP is too complicated for vg
Just rolling is also fine

>>183175935
The "drama" of MoH? please go into detail, is it the one that involves 4 fags that left the guild? they still have +70 other level 60's

please shill, please go into detail.

>>183176039
xD

>1 general
>4 guilds
>4 cliques

this is the worst general ive ever seen, and katawa shoujo general is a thing

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>>183175594
redpill me on warmane

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>>183175107
>>183175228
>>183175223
>>183175437

at this point the core of Nihium/MoH/DMCA might as well be a group of real life friends making a guild and assigning themselves officer.

which is cool but then they take it a step further and engage in thread wars with other literal who guilds, and of course they have no chance, they've been doing this for 6 years now.

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Is there a weeb guild yet?

>>183176209
You do realise they don't give a shit about the "literal who" guilds right.

>only guild planning on late west coast raiding is alliance
Fuck. I live in dirt

>>183175474
Alex may not have done the work behind the dox himself but he used the pedestal he had to grandstand it to the masses. He is wholly responsible for Crestfalls downfall and if Gummy pisses him off (or he gets behind on rent) he'll try to do the same.

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Still need 1-2 priests and 2+ shamans. DMCA, soon to be <awoo>, join now.

>>183176209
>>183176297
Don't care, they just need to fuck off from those threads and stay with their clique

>>183176209
you know that this is a fake pic made be inhaler since he got butthurt that the tranny guild is more successful than <clovergaymen>, right?

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>>183176209
>IT'S NOT FAIR BROS IT'S NOT FAIR WE WERE SUPPOSED TO BE THE REAL VG GUILD, I JOINED THIS DISCORD FIRST AND THE MEMES WERE FUN, WHY THERE HAS TO EXIST ANOTHER GUILD THAT THREATENS OUR EXISTANCE, IT'S NOT FUCKING FAIR

>>183175578
you've heard wrong. FF is too shit for real PvP. if he can't global chinks in BRM or greykill in redridge it wouldn't make him look very good in webm's.

>>183176112
Those are some real drawbacks to DKP but you're picking negatives from various systems that don't actually all appear at once. Plus there are plenty of versions or modified systems (as in the ones people use instead of memes) that don't have those downsides.
Gdkp is a meme and mainly used by guilds hosting some pugs to build up their "guild bank". If you're shilling that then you're trolling.

>>183176209
Shill, please, go to your discord's new guild channel, the one with the members that asked for classes, see how many there are to get an average idea of how many of your members are real, and then divide it by half to see how many will make it to 70.

>>183176112
Pretty elabourate for a shitpost

>>183176250
me on the left

>>183176389
It was made by merove but close enough i guess

MoP was good. Prefer "discovering new lands with their own problems" theme over SOMETHING IS DANGERIZING THE AZEROTH HEROES

>>183176382
No, I agree with that 100%. I mean that Alex wouldn't be able to do shit by himself and would need other people upset with gummy to even make it happen.
It's not impossible but I don't think the doxxing issue is a big fear. I'd definitely assume Alex will ultimately turn on the server for <insert reason>, that's his whole thing. He'll get buttmad about something and try to use it.

>>183176503
Goldloot is not Gdkp retard, please shut the fuck up, goldloot only problem can be fixed by just adding a simple rule to the guild, except for that it has no flaw

>>183176383
can i enhance shaman, tell me your raid times planned im gay

>>183176383
You only wand 1-ERPriest for the bonus spellpower from Divine Spirit. 2 S-priests are more than enough.
Shammys will be problem though. You just can't have enough.

>>183176383
keep changing your name trannies, maybe people will forget what you did.

>>183176680
Can't wait to play the AH and buy shiny vanity items for myself while other casters eat shit.

>>183176250
me without panties on

>>183176383
You need Ret Paladins?

>>183176383
How many raid nights is the guild going to have?

>>183176383
Id put real money on whatever priest you end up with being shit. Most priest healers are garbage in terms of skill, its rare in old retail that I ever saw a priest who could put up anything beyond mediocre output, and its not for lack of class strength, because I have seen them put up impressive numbers. The shammies wont have to be good to do their job at like 60% effectiveness, which is all thats needed for a lot of the early raid content. Its not just random CH spam in sunwell, though, and you need actual genius tier shammies there, not just retards spamming CH.

Most healers are absolute garbage. I always found myself carrying trash unless I raided with people that werent actually fun to be around. Its always a tossup, fun people and dont see endgame - or assholes who treat it like a job and want to powertrip you as their boss as their whole reason to exist - and finishing the game.

>>183176786
Where do you think the gold goes dipshit

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>>183176170
It's fun to fuck around with in bgs and arenas, it's definitely better overall than some of the older tbc servers like feenix, hg, excalibur but that's not saying much.
I wouldn't advise spending the time to do pve unless you just want to blow through buggy raids that are in their nerfed 2.4.3 state which really isn't worth it.

>>183175696
people need to remember <clovermen>'s entire deal is it's not DMCA, there's is no chance there will be a mass merge

Horde is a lot less deeply divided

>>183176776
Such as?

>>183176383
>madti may want to play rogue or priest

you can't even make this shit up

>>183176815
Amlith...

>>183176827
>Its always a tossup, fun people and dont see endgame - or assholes who treat it like a job and want to powertrip you as their boss as their whole reason to exist - and finishing the game.
this so much

Can't decide between mage or enhancement shaman, please help. What's easier to get a raid spot as? PVP-wise better?

y cant i play monk psl

>>183176939
>someone is undecided on class

literally can't make this shit up

>>183176878
Back to me among other shit. Point is I will be swimming in gold as usual and I will just bid high on whatever item I can use that looks pleasing to me, and there's nothing you can do to stop me.

>>183176383
can you faggots decide on raid times yet

>>183176827
What do they need to do in sunwell that's so difficult?

>>183175806
>two weeks after launch
>prince dead
are you cereal?

>>183176680
>>183176786
Cant wait to buy 50,000 gold off the chinks and hoard all the loot for my alt.

>>183176565
Was it seriously made by m*rove? that's fucking pathethic, I bet his motivation was to fight screenshots with screenshots, and even then he still has the balls to tell others not to start drama, do you have any screenshots that prove that merove did it? I haven't seen him denying it tho and he is always ctrl +f himself on the threads, so he most be aware

>>183177040
Okay you don't know how goldloot works or free market economic systems, fuck off
have fun with your clique and being a disgusting human being

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http://raidcomp.mmo-champion.com/

make your ideal raid comp

>>183176818
2.

>>183176162
>this is the worst general ive ever seen, and katawa shoujo general is a thing
its still comfy

life is strange general is up there in shittiness

>>183177006
enh is hot garbage for pvp

Shaman in general isn't a good pvp class in tbc

Probably easier to get a raidspot as enh since no one wants to play enh because you're basically a bitch for melees, and melees are garbage. Ele has like the highest base dps fresh 70 right off the bat tho.

>>183177146
amlith, this has to stop

>>183177125
This system was made with this in mind

>>183177156
So if I offer the most gold for a sidegrade or a slight upgrade I won't get it?
Why? I thought it's free market.

>>183177072
Know who to heal, when, and being able to predict damage ahead of time without stopcasting which wastes time... so the raid doesnt fall apart. Know how to work with eachother so they aren't overhealing on the same targets. Know when to use something other than chain heal (pretty rare by sunwell desu). Know how to gear. etc.

>>183177125
>Cant wait to buy 50,000 gold off the chinks and hoard all the loot for my alt.
thanks for the free gold lad

not like gear matters until sunwell

>>183177006
You need 1 mage and 1 enh. It's a lot more difficult to gear enh early on since they need blacksmithing which will be cancer to level up. Enh is pretty worthless in PvP IIRC. Mage is a lot easier to gear up with but also not very high in demand for raids but is good for PvP.

>>183177228
Thanks, my boy. I will be enhancing the shit out of other garbage melees as an overgrown smurf.

>>183177006
if you do PvP for laffs then shaman is better

>frost shock mage
>get into melee range
>instantly dies to windfury + crits

>>183176427
kys go watch his videos on youtube

>>183176162
it's not 4 cliques
it's 2 cliques, a few people from old cliques and Amlith

>>183177273
I'm mocky

>>183177298
>>183177072
Also of course, observing raid mechanics. Which isnt a breeze in sunwell. Your whole raid has to have a brain for that part, theres also totem management, resists etc, maintaining party cohesion and positioning.

>>183177298
Never played TBC but I've been researching a lot of shit. I guess the only way to really know how to play though is to do the raids first hand to know when damage is coming.

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>>183177039
shut up and give me your nut

>>183177059
raid times will be weekend
raid start somewhere from 7-9pm GMT

>>183176427
This, he is literally just another vanilla shitter

>>183177297
You are either baiting or don't know how this system work
http://wowwiki.wikia.com/wiki/Kablooie-Lilchubby_Goldloot_System
This is not GDKP and the Guild bank is never used

>>183177418
Mocky......

>Mocky resorts to pretending he's Amlith because nobody gives a shit about him anymore

MISERABLE

>>183175578
Nope. He won't play real PvP and can't handle anything but sub 80 ping because he's fucking garbage at the game.

why is mocky so hated bros? what did she do wrong?

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>>183177169
rate my comp

>>183177551
Oh okay, so if I come with 10k gold and decide I really want Eye of Mag which is a slight sidegrade for me but content BiS for spriests, and they cannot outbid me, what then?

>>183177467
The amount of damage the raid takes is withering. There is a reason you need so much chain heal spam, and its because everyone is getting nuked the whole time. It makes ICC 25 feel like a heroic, I made it to blood queen 25 heroic, I think we downed her actually before I quit. That was a joke compared to sunwell, it was with people who wouldnt have made it through t5.

>>183177469
how about you give me yours instead

>>183177551
and who's to stop me from bidding on every item i feel like bidding if i can just play the ah for a day after the raid and get it all back?

>>183177640
Replace a mage with a disc priest, replace a lock with a paladin, also replace a rogue with a paladin.

>>183177793
then you make the entire guild dirty fucking rich?

>>183177486
not awful

if you guys decide to try 2 raid groups I might play fury/arms

>>183177610
how can someone be envious like this? lol dude u suck hard

>>183177964
Envious of what? He has the chance to prove that he's good and he didn't take it. He's a shitter.

>>183177925
right, because they will get 200g each is i dump 5k gold on items in one raid?
wow, that's real money right there.

>>183177640
gz, you killed tbc

>>183178026
you embarrassed yourself enough, just stop it you damn unskilled autist

>>183178062
and if multiple people do this every raid?

>>183178324
i honestly doubt multiple people will decide it's fine to blow 1k on an evocation dagger because it looks nice.

https://www.reddit.com/r/wowservers/comments/6o8vqw/worst_news_ive_read_about_crestfall_copied_post?sort=confidence

>mfw i have accurately predicted winners/losers on every new server since nostalrius/kronos debate

Gummy will fail hard, screenshot this if you don't believe me but I've been right every other time.

t. knower

Don't argue about loot systems with retards and shill, no point
They either lack the brain cell to answer their own shitty scenario or are just shilling

If you join a Loot Council raid, you are an idiot for believing that vg players will be fair and not abuse a system based on "opinions"
Only clique guild are defending this system here, no one else

>>183178552
>Gummy is going to fail hard?
Why?
>It just will! Here's some random leddit link regarding crestfall
fuck off

>>183178148
>no argument

LOL

>>183178598
>i have no answer
>i will now make sweeping generalisations
every time.

>>183178598
Who are you quoting?

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PLEASE ANSWER ME MOCKY, I LOVE YOU

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You may not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like

Tbh, having twenty shammies in a raid is probably really fucking good since you could just chain bloodlust forever

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>>183178740
t. retard who never played scriptcraft 1/2
not even that guy but, gummy is a ticking timebomb. give it 4 months max before he has an autismal shitfit and closes the server or sells it to some russians or god forbid warmane

gummy has proven several times that hes incapable of taking criticism or managing a server. i cant wait until he goes completely fucking mental after people keep pestering him about attunement changes or pvp changes

>>183178821
>>183178883
I understand why we have 2 alliance guild now

>>183178658
It looks like one of those advertisement on porn websites lmao

>>183179052
>still no argument

>>183178974
http://raidcomp.mmo-champion.com/?c=vunkkmbrr7o6dihrrrrmgdo79000000000000000

Forgot link

>>183179031
But I played Scriptcraft. Sriptcraft was up for a year and he quit because ManGOS sucks and he was a student. Also, fuck off Grizzly. Your guild sucks dick.

>>183178740
Gummy is unreliable snd very vague regarding how he will handle faction queues, the server is being praised as perfection when it isn't and needs a lot more work, the server is being hyped way more than it should by reddit, the server has never been stress tested with more than 1k players, molten will ddos the shit out of it snd gummy won't speak to his ddos mitigation, it is hosted in the US.

>>183179129
http://wowwiki.wikia.com/wiki/Kablooie-Lilchubby_Goldloot_System

>>183178552
>crogge and shenna are dating
haha wtf?
If he just included that as a joke then that was actually funny for once. If it's true then I guess that's even funnier.

>>183178552
It looks like Alex has gone full drama mode again boys.

WTF I HATE GUMMY NOW I'M GOING TO ____

>>183179448
play ascension and make children angry

>>183179448
that instant 70 one

>>183179448
wait for northcraft

>>183178552
From a tester I've talked to that post actually seems accurate, but I have no first hand knowledge.
What does Gummy failing or not have to do with that reddit post tho?

>>183179448
come to warmane comrade we have many glaive for sale and much PvP

>>183179249
does this answer my posts in any way?
all it states is that the highest bidder wins.
if i'm consecutively the highest bidder, nobody else gets shit.
unless of course the guild is supposed to do progress raiding for handouts from one or two ah jews.

>>183179529
i'd rather play wotlk than tbc but northcraft looks like garbage, their polls and posts are laughable

"would you like less bugs on launch?"

>>183178740
>>183179550
it's the classic
>mangos so shit lol i will make my own
There is so much that works on mangos that people take for granted

>>183179816
wanting a progression guilds is for tryhards

vg should be playing with vg guilds if thye want casual memes and banter, not if they want a hardcore experience

that loot system and others that involve rolling are better if you're just trying to get comfy

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/hug /kiss /love your druid friends

>>183179880
Someone tell me what guild this underage /r9k/ sperg is in so I can avoid it.

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Which guild is most likely to get me a qt boyfriend?

what expansion had the best balance? does TBC change much from vanilla?

>>183179975
lel

>>183179975
>"sOmEoNe tElL mE wHaT gUiLd tHiS uNdErAgE /r(k/ sPeRg iS iN sO i cAn aVoId iT"

>>183180105
my guild

>>183180105
Give me your discord, I'm cute

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>>183179381

Can someone, anyone, explain me what loot drama happened in MoH that justifies so many people here to be agaisnt Loot Council using MoH as an example? or is it all shitposting like "you'll never get loot it all goes to the clique"

is it the one related to the Puddi/Gropy/Samfu/Tendies?

>>183178552
>alexensuals popularity is waning -- actually its more so in the gutter after being stabbed repeatedly
>will not hit 70 on gummy due to ganking
>every guild he has applied to denied him because he's a massive sperg
>creates a long boring story about crestfall and posts it on a fresh reddit account
>adds talking points in the cross post to wowservers
>releases ten videos talking about how corrupt they were, how he was right, what you should do now, more hypotheticals, reading reddit replies word for word
>leads into his attack on gummy for being 'not blizzlike' and not 100% perfect
>talks about how blizzard is our only hope
>by this point new information on the next expansion will be out
>starts to hype it up
>the same cycle from when legion came out starts itself again

>elysium just got bwl
>2 days until felmyst
shieeet

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would you?

>>183180105
are you a girl

>>183180221
for all the memeing about this its not a very aggressive desk slam

only one hand too

>>183180160
Which one is that

>>183180193
Post pics

>>183180271
No

>>183180105
My guild fellow traveler. Join Sanctuary discord today: https://discord.gg/Z5VyXQu

Also, please don't leave out the only non Loot Council guild out of the OP, thank you.

>>183180263
I want her to slam my dick.

>>183178552
>people quit elysium because of corruption and retarded staff
>elysium's core leaked
>people waiting for crestfall to never release instead of just making an elysium core server without retarded staff

?????????????

Someone explain this shit. I know elysium's core is far from perfect but it's blatantly the best available and it works good enough. What the fuck is the point in waiting for an unscripted server lead by a guy who is in direct relation to the corrupt people at elysium who has also hired gold sellers and bot makers?

Someone just fucking host a vanilla elysium core server please. Also make it 1.5x experience.

>>183180134
>>183180138
Amlith...

>>183179959
shut the fuck up. we've been running LC for years in MoH and have had no problems. we've proven that LC can work perfectly with a vg guild as long as you have mature and experienced leadership.

>>183180224
it was explained here last thread:

>>183148765
>>183148765
>>183148765

tl;dr its not just memes

>>183180224
How can you expect a non biased answer on an anonymous board
MoH will tell you it's bullshit
EVERYONE ELSE who were in the old guilds they had will tell you it's not
your choice

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>>183179031
>cant wait until he goes completely fucking mental after people keep pestering him about attunement changes or pvp changes

I could see that. Should be hilarious when they all get mass banned. It will be blizzlike, Blizzard always used to wait until a lot of people broke the rule and then just banned all of them at once, without warning.

>>183180363
There is literally nothing wrong with 1x you filthy casual fuck. You little faggots have no experience with actual grindy mmos.

Your other point is correct though.

>>183180410
>shut the fuck up. we've been running LC for years in MoH and have had no problems. we've proven that LC can work perfectly with a vg guild as long as you have mature and experienced leadership.
you're a progression guild which is exactly what im saying, thats why it (kind of) works for you

you have drama but yes your core does get prioritized and you completed raids on ely and on nost, people are free to join your guild if they want

im saying non-progression hardcore and more casual atmosphere is better for a /vg/ guild, the focus isn't on MUH GEAR MUH HEALING METERS its about memes and banter, although certainly everyone will want to progress as well its not the focus

>>183180492
I'm just shit-posting. I've done 1-60 on 1x plenty of times and am fine with it. I just think vanilla needs a very slight experience rate increase like TBC has. Or at least slightly more quest hubs.

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>>183176250
There is one in the making, yes.

Stay tuned.

>>183180289
Hes done it several times as far as I understand, and its because he was healing underbog on a priest and kept getting assraped by bog lords, since he stood too close to them and couldnt hit fade fast enough. The whole group was probably roasting him about being terrible and thinking about finding a new healer lol

>>183180410
>mature

literal teenagers

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GUYS I CANNOT LIVE WITHOUT THE BRIDGE IN MY LIFE, WHAT MUST I DO?

IS THERE AN AFK SPOT IN SHATTRATH?

>>183179953
Is that all? I thought everyone already knew that.
I mean, gummy could fail, I'm not an expert. But wouldn't there be a world of difference in transparency between him and CF? If Gummy poops itself I doubt it will be due to unfinished shit.

>>183180661
I'll be waiting

>>183180661
I hope it's true

>>183180427
but that's just babymetal, someone that was bullied about it, generally disliked by everyone and no longer an officer, I'm honestly asking because I didn't play with them, was were there other cases? they have been raiding for months, also babymetal was also the reason of the Puddi/samfu/etc drama

>>183180456
just try to tell me, I want to know if there were mroe issues

>>183180225
I love that theory but the anon throwaway was far too articulate to be Alex. He would have had to literally hire someone to type it for him.

>>183180817
>but that's just babymetal, someone that was bullied about it, generally disliked by everyone and no longer an officer, I'm honestly asking because I didn't play with them
how would you know babymetal was disliked by everyone if you weren't in the guild

i barely know who that is

>>183180654
On 1x I did quests almost exclusively, outside of Deadmines(or WC), Stockade(or SFK), Gnomeregan and ZF. Every single time I level in EPL after completing maybe 25% of the zone. If you bothered to do instances such as Uldaman, Sunken Temple, BRD which give massive xp through quests you would probably do so before even stepping in the plaguelands.

>>183180410
lc worked fine for the /v/ guild back in the day, what happened?

Gummy doesn't know what will happen when his server is past 1k players. He isn't using mangos so the server could literally turn into an unplayable lagfest, break a bunch of shit, or just crash repeatedly

>Rogue sucks outside PvP
>Effin horrible pre raid BiS implying worst heroics like Shattered Halls. Exalted Aldor mandatory asap. Stuck in BM forever.
>Regularly cucked by tanks "huh but I'll raid dps lol i need latro too"
>Subpar dps because bad uptime from being fucked by every single mechanic
>Gets replaced by any hunter/warlock

Why the fuck are ppl rolling rogue to rdps? Is it because m-muh glaives. Let's be honest, they never happen. Farmed BT back then with my guild, only 2 right-hand total.
On top of that Illidan got his HP buffed. It doesn't seem like much but it actually changes everything with the phases. He is nowhere near 2.4.3 freekill.

>>183180817
Babyshitter was 60 by then. Sylvester sperged out over t1 shoulders and gquit though.

>>183180817
It's a /vg/ guild, you don't give loot to people you like or dislike
just because babymetal is a huge retard doesn't make this right
also the problem is not just babymetal like he said, since he still don't think he deserved the loot, but about the officer/class leader

>>183180920
>Uldaman, Sunken Temple
easily 2 of the worst dungeons ever created in any game

-shit loot
-long as fuck
-annoying
-etc

>>183180817
babymetal is exactly the kind of person you don't want to trust with power. he's usally a level 255 brownoser but as soon as he get's the slightest whiff of power to wield around, he will think he is hot shit and will wave it around like crazy.

What guild is Alex in?

>>183180867
It's not like he sat and spewed it all out at once. He probably made multiple drafts until he cleansed it of his autism.

>>183181072
He's in <Darknest>

>>183180903
/elyg/

>>183181054
Both can be done efficiently in less than two hours with 6+ dungeon quests that give a large amount XP. Also, keep in mind that this patch has the loot refresh that updated greens to blues etc.

>>183181113
>started at mop
>be
>ret

m-maybe i'll join clovermen

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>>183181008
I for one am grateful to be witnessing the purge of rogues.

>>183181072
celebrity, markymarks guild.

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>>183181113

>>183180224
MoH loot council is just fine, it's just that all the officers happen to be the best players so of course they get geared up first. anyone arguing against LC are just trash players who think damage/healing meters in MC have any correlation with player skill.

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>>183175504
>>183175663
>>183178658
>>183179880
>>183181113

>>183181092
Come on, name one time Alex has put more than absolute minimal effort into anything.
I'm not defending, I think it would be great from a drama standpoint if he sacked it together enough to make such a decent shit stirring post. I really doubt it however.

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>see general pop up
>oh tbc, could be fun, ill check it out
>as I lurk the threads for 1-2 weeks I start to notice all the bad things about TBC
>All these ret paladin guild leaders
>All those blood elves
>All those mages and rogues that'll think they're hot shit
>Arena balance in TBC
>Resto druids
>Terokkar Forest & Zangarmarsh
>Dragonspine Trophy grind will straight up kill guilds
>rotation macro's that increase performance by 10%
>actual (babies first) mechanics where people need to take responsibility rather then a 40man snowball

I can't fucking wait for the drama for gear the first few weeks not looking out for the shit as fuck "Muh healslut" healers that can't heal the heroics

>>183175415
>>183175594
pretty fun to watch vs mage rogue

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>>183181238
>Also, keep in mind that this patch has the loot refresh that updated greens to blues etc.
hmm

maybe worth doing this time then

>>183181008
because they're fun to play

>>183181314
melees, tanks, casters and hunters have their prios set and they often discuss gear updates with their cl's to ensure items go where they should unless the items are memes.
nobody knows what's going on with healers.

>>183181337
You missed one, friend >>183181298

>>183181348
He pieced together several documents like that one when he was attacking Elysium. It's nothing new.

>>183181172
Is there a video of this?

>>183181353
me on the left

>>183180903
I plan to roll with them so I have been asking around, I just want to know if there were more incidents since everytime it's brought up people blame babymetal

>>183181058
>>183181047
ok so would you put it like, it was mostly babymetal's fault and the people that enabled babymetal to get any power as a class leader?

>>183181026
I didn't know about sylvester, any other cases? do you think it was justified or he didn't deserve tem and sperged out

>>183181113
I think fembelfs are over played and would never play one but they have a point. What else are they supposed to do? Play a malebelf? That's even worse

>>183181603
>I plan to roll with them so I have been asking around, I just want to know if there were more incidents since everytime it's brought up people blame babymetal
you poor poor sod

>>183181476
wyke hates alex and could debunk it or confirm it by messaging the dude.
you are giving alex way way too much credit

>>183181353
>Dragonspine Trophy grind will straight up kill guilds

That's autism for ya.

5 man TBC heroics were shit because of the amount of CC needed. Cata heroics didn't need as much, because there were more skills to use, but they were harder at the start. They were easier at the end of the expansion because of the way Cata gear scaled though.

>>183181640
>I think fembelfs are over played and would never play one but they have a point. What else are they supposed to do? Play a malebelf? That's even worse
this

male blood elf is undoubtedly the gayest shit in game no question

>>183181640
I've played an old kael'thas looking nigga

>>183181778
>>183181640
... Amlith

>>183181603
For fuck sake
I'll make it simple for you
Do you trust the opinions of people you don't know?
Because this is what a Loot Council is basically
If you really think a LC can be fair and just, you are either part of the council or you are an idiot
You wouldn't trust anyone on vg with your life so why would you trust them with loots

>>183181603
they were an upgrade, but they also were an upgrade to another rogue who was pretty fresh in the raids at the time and had almost no raid loot.
i'd personally give it to him but it wasn't my call.

>>183181854
>You wouldn't trust anyone on vg with your life so why would you trust them with loots
equating your own life with the loot you get in a roleplaying game

i don't have enough wew's for this one lad

>>183181726
cata heroics got eaiser because blizzard nerfed the shit out of them for wrathbabbies

outside of select few (Mgt comes to mind) tbc heroics require a comparable amount of cc to 4.0 heroics

>>183181658
>>183181854
you say that but that's why I'm asking, if babymetal was already stripped and there were no other major issues, what's the problem.

>>183181854
You get 1-70 and then normal/heroic spam to get to know people.

>>183182031
>and there were no other major issues
so you say

>>183181435
They truly are fun overall. But they run into so much issues. idk what to do anon

Why don't we like Amlith again?

>>183181603
>Sylvester sperged out over t1 shoulders and gquit

sylvester was #1 DPS since the first raid and 10% above everyone else since the first raid with spotless attendance. he lost best in slot to a noob who was on their first raid, and he was supposedly the guy in charge of Rogue loot.

it also happens that the one who got it was a guy claiming to be a girl and did less damage than the tanks, it could be just a coincidence I don't know.

>>183182102
so I keep asking, but so far only babymetal and >>183182031 are brought up

Please tell me of other issues, or ask around to see what you can find out.

>>183181707
ok, alex.

>>183175504
>>183175663
>>183178658
>>183179880
>>183181113
>>183181298
So let me get this straight - /r9k/ newfag weeb who thinks women will just throw them self at him is going to lead the guild as fem belf ret paladin?

Seems appropriate

>>183182297
Speak for yourself, I like her.

>>183182031
Because you don't know those people!
Are you that naive that you think everyone you meet will be fair and nice to you? on the internet?
Just tell the truth, you are new here, had fun on their discord and think you will not get fucked, great for you
Maybe you will not because you will be friends with every class leader, but then in this case you don't care about anyone else who will not get any loot because you get priority, fuck anyone but you right? So either way you are either completely stupid or a cunt

>>183182040
Aka ass licking, enjoy it slut

>>183182316
pure bullshit. he was #1 but never 10% above other people and the person who won it never claimed to be a girl.
instead he claimed to be a lonely male loser.
so stop making shit up.

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>>183182384
You tell me

>>183182470
>Never played BC
>Never raided
kek

>>183182448
>playing with and getting to know people is ass licking
holy fucking shit the autism.

>>183182347
I meant to reference this post >>183181903

>>183182448
I want to do progression and I honestly don't see that happening with the loot system of other guilds, I don't think everything is about loot, I don't get why are you so agaisnt trusting people, if they fuck me over on loot i'll just switch

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oleg posting must continue

>>183182672
Back to the dishroom, Alex.

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what did blizzard mean by this?

https://streamable.com/mquub
https://streamable.com/ybhrl
https://streamable.com/hvzj4
https://streamable.com/iknlu
https://streamable.com/dln2u
https://streamable.com/0u8g7
https://streamable.com/op4eg

>>183182448
this is why every other guild so fall fell apart, it's full of people like these, that think the lone gamer approach works then they just jump ship everytime something happens or when they think they can get more loot somewhere else.

>>183182963
How many times are you gonna repost this family?

>>183182614
He's probably being a little bit rude but he isn't wrong, at least not with MoH.
In a lot of ways they have much in common with some normie guilds in the emphasis they place on sitting in discord all day and how kissing ass contributes to loot decisions.

>>183182669
Don't ever dare coming here to cry after you release your mistake
and if you join the clique then just end yourself

>>183175415
>spam vanish and get lucky
so this is the power....of arena babies

>>183183059
>how kissing ass contributes to loot decisions
it doesn't, else dads would still be naked.
making shit up about a guild you have no idea about doesn't give you any street cred, you know.

What clique are you guys talking about?!
There is no clique!

Now come raid BWL and remember that all loot has already been distributed amongst the best players, aka officers

>>183180263
*slams dildo up butt*

>>183183154
>making shit up
I'm curious which retard you are

>>183183073
>you'll regret it you hear me YOU'LL REGRET IT
enjoy your dead on arrival guild, make sure to save up gold so you don't lose your bis

>>183183154
but there is a clique, why are you shitposting.

>>183183179
I know for a fact that it wasn't.

>>183183179
I'm everyone's favorite tranny so why would I give a shit? You thirsty fucking betas only have yourself to blame.

>>183180263
Hey guys, Chelseaensual here.

>>183183278
madti...

Human paladin, night elf druid, or draenei shaman?

>>183183224
yattz. now do tell where your intimate knowledge of the lc inner workings comes from?

>>183182316
>>183182457
Do you guys know how long ago this happened? Also will babymetal be allowed into the guild in gummy?

>>183183391
dwarf warrior

is Amlith the future of /vg/ guilds bros?!?

>>183183257
Of course there's a clique. In fact, there's several cliques, some intertwined and some not.
At this point literally everyone who comes to raids every so often is in one. It's been half a year.

>>183183490
yes as seen here>>183182384
>>183182470

Guys there is no conspiracy, just join DMCA and have fun raiding with us :)
even if the officer get priority on everything, you will still get loots after them!
Don't forget about GUILD PROGRESSION
you don't want us to be slow right? If the officer don't get all the loot there is no way for us to have a good GUILD PROGRESSION!
Even tho this argument doesn't make sense since the server is progressive, NEVER FORGET ABOUT GUILD PROGRESSION GUYS, THIS IS A GOOD ARGUMENT ABOUT WHY WE NEED TO FUCK YOU ALL OVER

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>>183177169

>>183183125
>not using vanish to bait the rogue for a sap with your superior stealth level
Vanilla babies can't comprehend

can i log in gummy now to test addons?

PLX HALP. I cant find any add on for tbc that shows quest giver locations on map. plx halp

>>183183391
all 3 paladin specs are shit and boring

>>183183543
>>183183420
I want to know this too, why the fuck would they allow babymetal to be in the guild when over half the drama people shitpost about MoH is babymetal's fault

>>183183543
read my post again, I said that there is a clique, don't be so over defensive.

>>183183420
In May. I honestly think it should've went to him but then we were supposed to be raiding MC till August so there was plenty of time, especially so given that there's maybe 5 rogues in the raid.

>>183183609
Server went down a couple of hours ago

>>183183708
Because there were not enough paladins at that point and he's unironically an ok healer.
He was stripped of CL-ship and outside of attention whoring doesn't shit up things much anymore.

1-3 mage
4-6 lock
7-9 paladin
0 reroll

>>183181462
healer loot was once a council of the 3 class leaders
Lumikaru and Babymetal made too many shitty decisions so they got excluded from
all healer loot is now handled by 1 person and healers stopped leaving over loot

>>183183928
trips quit wow forever

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>>183182457
>he was #1 but never 10% above other people

these are from his last 4 MC raids with MoH, from overall boss damage.

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>>183183928
dubs become tranny

I never played a healer, always been a dps bub.
Not sure if I should go shaman or priest.
Any recommandations? What's easier?

meterposting

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>mfw realising all the loot drama people have been complaining about was the healers fault
Can we have a guild without healers?
Why are healers so likely to be trannies, degenerates and shit at the game?

>>183184068
that's not hard since everyone had dalrends and you viskag kek

>>183184068
>try-harded on the new valkyrie-wow
only the biggest autists like sylvie could do that

>>183184128
that's not a tranny

redpill me on amlith. is he good or bad?

>>183183708
The fact that there are so many consistent posts about shitty loot decisions combined with the rabid defense that MoH puts out (when they wake up at least) should be a red flag.
Some of it are shitposts of course, but it isn't like it's one angry autist who spends his entire life making up stories, especially when by MoH's admission their loot council isn't even a "real" loot council.

>>183184148
Shaman is easier since you just spam Chain Heal, and if you get bored you can play melee instead of being only a caster.

>>183184261
He's Quebecois

>>183184216
Healslut isn't a meme. I love the attention, always have. You'll have to live with us in WoW, sorry friendo t.healer for 10 years

>>183184261
kill yourself

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WHERE IS THE WEEB GUILD

>>183184068
Try checking bosses one by one and see which ones stand out most.

>>183184308
Man honestly the rabid responses are from both sides, just look at the replies so far, I don't know about you but I already have a clear idea of what happened since no one has brought any other issues up.

>>183184412
w-what? w-why would you say such a thing to m-m-me?? *cries*

>>183184148
shamans has retarded offensive support in tbc and they're great healers

>>183184261
AMA on my Discord desu https://discord.gg/Z5VyXQu

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>>183184259
this is Madti

>>183183224
>>183183397
i'm still waiting.

>>183184068
>meterposting
was it autism

What are you guys doing while waiting?
watching tyler1 vods for me

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>>183177169
BEHOLD

1-3 Rogue
4-6 Hunter
7-9 Priest
0 uninstall wizard

>>183184429
that would be <DMCA> without a doubt.

>>183184669
>someone says something wrong
>the proof is posting the meters
>"haha you are an autist for proving me wrong"

>>183184687
>Behold
Behold what? Pure garbage?

>>183184587
by shaman offensive support do you mean enh? or ele as well? because too me it seems ele shams are just nice for the wrath totem and that's about it.
or can they do decent dps?

>>183184617
I'm serious give me the sauce please

>>183184629
I don't care, I'll join clovermen, DMCA can scam people and do w/e

>>183184676
I'm playing on Warmane's Icecrown :^)

le aunt poisoner

>>183184831
Mate, wait for the launch. Then the real alliance guild will be revealed.

>>183184754
you don't know what you're even talking about anon that comp will get server first kills GUARANTEED

Redpill me on markymark

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>>183184865

>>183184261
hes the future of WoW....

>>183184669
yes.
https://webmshare.com/QYQRR

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>>183184429
Soon!

>meterposting
Is DMCA going to fall apart before the server even starts or on Saturday when they fail to kill Vael

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>>183184971

>>183184784
madti#7077

>>183184865
>>183184971
>>183185075
Is this actually a tranny or what?

>>183184831
oh so you just make shit up, have absolutely no idea how anything is decided and when called out you pussy out like the bitch you are.
make sure to bitch about cliques in <clovermen> after you're inevitably benched then.

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>>183184741
So rogue it is then.. hm
fem ud or human?

>>183185063
He isn't dmca

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>>183185127
Some Chilean, yeah

>>183184687
>>183184931
>not a single shadow priest
you are fucking clueless

>>183185143
retard

>>183185242
-------------------------------------->the joke


(;3)
..I.. --------------------------------> you
./\.

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REMEMBER THAT BY JOINING <DMCA> YOU'LL GET THE CHANCE TO MEET A REAL GIRLS and maybe even get a gf ;)

How do I verify my phone on the felmyst discord if I don't have a mobile phone??

Not gonna lie, former Clovermen supporter here. This is fucking hilarious watching Inhaler crash and burn. But in all seriousness we can't let this guy be the loot master

>>183185436
But we don't even have men pretending to be girls and the only actual girl is taken.

>>183185436
Already got a gf, and she doesn't have a penis

>>183185436
wtf I love DMCA now

>>183185540
wait until he realises that over half of the people that joined his discord aren't playing with him

>>183185540
Kill yourself.

>>183185461
try not being brazilian

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>>183185564
I'll pretend to be a little girl if you want

>>183185729
No Arteras. You can't.