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/sthg/ - Sonic the Hedgehog General

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Welcome to the Sonic The Hedgehog General. Here we talk about Sonic's stuff! Share art and music, talk about new developments, discuss ROM hacks, speedrunning, and more.

/sthg/ #826 - Crippling depression edition.

>Link Compilation<
http://pastebin.com/J6hTXkhK

>Drawfag/Writefag Idea Walls<
http://pastebin.com/j8KkPQ4n
http://pastebin.com/jNKKMk5b

>Sonic News<
Several Sonic Events Happening at San Diego Comic-Con 2017
https://www.sonicstadium.org/2017/07/sounds-of-sonic-music-event-set-for-san-diego-comic-con/
https://www.sonicstadium.org/2017/07/sonic-mania-behind-the-scenes-panel-at-comic-con/
https://www.sonicstadium.org/2017/07/sonic-augmented-reality-experience-coming-to-sdcc/

Tons of new info on Sonic Boom: Rise of Lyric Development Found
http://www.tssznews.com/2017/07/11/tons-of-new-info-on-sonic-boom-rise-of-lyric-development-found/

Sonic Forces Main Theme Lyrics Revealed - "Fist Bump"
https://youtu.be/XI97jY3FZ9Q [Embed]

Sonic Mania Vinyl Album Announced
https://twitter.com/sonic_hedgehog/status/878297582383976449

Archie Update: Ian Flynn – “I’ve Heard We Should Get [Sonic] News by End Of July”
http://www.tssznews.com/2017/07/01/archie-update-ian-flynn-ive-heard-we-should-get-sonic-news-by-end-of-july/

>General Interest Links<
/sthg/ Level Development Kit 3.0:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bw9wQojS0lxpXy1vZHpRcjJtekU/view?usp=sharing

Birthday Bash Zone
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bw9wQojS0lxpamZnSzItcURDUFE/view?usp=sharing

Sonic Time Twisted
https://overboundstudio.com/index.php?action=game_page&id=1

Bump in Sonic 1 v0.1 + Source Code
http://www55.zippyshare.com/v/x5kpc8IZ/file.html
http://www10.zippyshare.com/v/Vh05gC9s/file.html

Green Hill Paradise Act 2
https://mega.nz/#!bdtByBRB!QENQpUU2fzjYSs79s0Y0lR5Zx1Tt5CI6v3f-buPsUo4

Sonic Boom Seasons 1 & 2 can be watched here:
https://kimcartoon.me/Cartoon/Sonic-Boom
https://kimcartoon.me/Cartoon/Sonic-Boom-Season-2
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Is Sonic fast?
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STOP MAKING EARLY THREADS THE OLD THREAD STILL HASN'T HIT THE BUMP LIMIT
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>>183089519
Let me play the worlds smallest violin for you.
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>tfw Vanilla hasn't been in a game since Sonic Rush
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I want to nail Arin Hanson to the fucking cross.
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>tfw Tee Lopes will never compose an intro theme for you
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>>183089797
WE'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO FILL THE CATALOG WITH OUR GENERALS

KNOCK IT OFF YOU BIG FUCKING LOSER
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>>183088647
That lower body looks horrible, to say nothing of the tits. It's like the bottom of her suit is dislocating and constricting where her hip joint is. Somethings off with the head too, it looks flat with barest understanding of where the face should be at that angle. Did you do any sort of construction before drawing this? I'm guessing not.
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>>183090394
We don't move fast enough to fill the board. The rule is only useful for really fast generals that can hit the bump limit in an hour or two.
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Watch out, /sthg/. The Hard-Boiled Heavies are here!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VW6TtXKVLYg
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>>183090394
But for every Sonic thread that gets posted a general about a shitty furfag game like Undertale of Fnaf gets deleted.
It's a good thing.
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>>183090130
Who?
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>>183090678
I did, and I see where you're talking about when you say that it's constricted. That'll be fixed.
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taking a few classic sonic requests, if that's okay! trying to get used to drawing him
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>>183091061
Something to do with Classic's reaction to seeing a Classic Amy pantyshot

Or modern Amy, it doesn't matter
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>>183091061
Draw him crying.
I love seeing Sonic cry.
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>>183091061
Draw him jumping on a badnik of your choice.
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>>183090891
>Sonic fan calling out other games for being shitty furfag games.
Wew.
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oh no
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>>183091061
Orally fisting himself.
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>>183091523
I can't wait to be let down.
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>>183091523
Saturday then.
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>>183090754
I will never stop listening to this. Someone help me, I'm ruining the song for myself.
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>>183091061
Draw him doing something gay.
It is 2017 after all.
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>>183091523
Either another track, a cutscene preview or a release date.
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>>183091523
Maybe we'll actually get something good this time. I'm being too optimistic for my own good.
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http://www.theonion.com/article/new-mit-study-suggests-sonic-hedgehog-might-be-liv-56424
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>>183092241
Is this really what passes for an Onion article nowadays?
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>>183092241
Kek.
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>>183091883
I doubt it'll be a release date, we didn't get Mania's until May 30, so two and a half months before release. I'm not expecting it until October at the earliest, and that's assuming a release date around Christmas.
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>>183090678
There, all fixed up. Even took the liberty of adding construction lines, as well.
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>>183093357
A DEAL'S A DEAL
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I won't tolerate subhumans who defile Sonic's great characters by sexualizing them.
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fat-chasers need to be rounded up. it's getting out of control.
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>>183090754
How can one game's music be this consistently great? This shouldn't be allowed, it's too pure for my ears.
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>>183091784
kys
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>>183091183
here you go!

sorry if these take a while, i want to colour and line them too so they look better for y'all
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>>183094049
That's alright Anon. No matter how long it takes, it's still pretty good. Patience is a virtue
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>>183094049
This is my new favorite reaction pic.
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>>183093615
Don't forget to shoot yourself too, old junk.
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>>183094049
Pretty good for something that took you a half hour.
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What do you about Fist Bump? The song itself is alright, but I can't help thinking the title should be something else.
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>>183091061
Him taking a bite out of a Ring Donut.
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>>183094496
Instrumental is better than the finished version. The lyrics and singing are both garbage. I don't expect amazing lyrics from Sonic songs but that's normally because they're handled by the composers, so Engrish word salad is to be expected. The lyrics are by the same guy who did the singing so he has no excuse.

They probably could've found a better singer from some local indy rock or metal band. I can't imagine anyone in the year 2017 going "that game's song is done by the guy from Hoobastank, that makes me interested in the game!"
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Replace buddy with this
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>>183094801
It really feels like they just handed it to the vocalist out of the blue and said "You've got one day to add lyrics to this." It feels so... well, forced.

>>183094963
Here's your (You) before you get trashed.
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>>183094801
>I can't imagine anyone in the year 2017 going "that game's song is done by the guy from Hoobastank, that makes me interested in the game!"

>>182163991
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>>183094963
But that is Buddy
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>>183091216
here you go, satan

>>183094386
i'm quicker depending on what i draw. e.g i've never drawn classic amy so that took waay longer than i wanted it to. hopefully i can shit these out quicker

why is he crying, /sthg/?
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>>183094963
you can make a female blue hedgehog with the editor
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>>183095168
Nice anon.
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>>183095148
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>>183095168
He's crying because of seeing Amy's panties
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>>183095168
He's thinking about that time he went slow.
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>>183095168
Sad rat is best rat.
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>>183094801
I prefer the instrumental as well, the singer sounds too light for what is meant to be a fiery song of resistance.
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>>183094049
>>183095168
these are really nice.
how do you get that good?
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>>183095168
Don't worry about being quicker, worry about getting better. Don't let yourself stagnate, even if it takes longer.
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Sonic games need more camp. Not intentional camp. Real camp.
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>>183095801
Not that anon, but since Sonic is pretty simple, practice to look, then practice to imitate. See shapes in 3D, as balls and bricks and always draw them (front and sides) as such, then transform them and add the details. Use books to learn about center of gravity, proportions, etc. If you try to draw something original, always use a reference, no good artist makes up poses and overall scenes in his head, if one does on video, it means he did that precise drawing so many times he can repeat it without too much thinking.
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>>183096120
Not in this self aware era of snark and sarcasm

Forces could've been this, but it looks like it's just gonna be more of the same from Generations
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>>183091523
It'll be new music. Some people are gonna like it, others are gonna not like it but move on, & others are gonna screech autistically about it and the existence of Forces.

>>183094496
Fist Bump is a good Sonic song. It's a song that wouldn't be out of place in Heroes & despite the constant theme of resistance, the way it's sung adds some camp to the theme, which I don't mind. I remember a lot of people losing their shit when it came out & I never got why.
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>>183094963
So how soon can we expect titty slider mods for Forces when it comes out for the PC?
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>>183096241
>I remember a lot of people losing their shit when it came out & I never got why.
Fist Bump kinda sucked.
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>>183096275
Not soon enough.
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>>183096215
Fuck these people, they are a vocal minority and why the 2010s were so shit and devoid of everything but memes. What's up with that shitty generation who can only get off at "hurr look at how dumb this stuff from 10/20/30/40 years ago was". Then they rip off Sailor Moon/Pepe and make it a story about their unique gender/dick. Ignore, process art, have fun and kick them out if they try to leech.
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Whose idea was it to make the "ultimate lifeform" so cute?
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>>183096575
Eggman was probably pretty lonely on the ARK.
That might have had something to do with it.
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>>183096368
Even if people didn't exactly care for the song, people were getting into arguments over every type of discussion you could have regarding Sonic music over it. And honestly, I don't think Fist Bump is that bad.
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>>183088908
Cannocially speaking, should Silver's timeline be good? or is it still fucked?

Asking for a friend.
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>>183096241
I liked Park Avenue.
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>>183096826
Silver should never live in a good future. Ever

Sonic Colors DS is uncanon because of this fact
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>>183089704
I don't remember that part of the comic...
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>>183096729
That happens every time we get something new. The upcoming Forces news is going to generate plenty of shitposting for a while regardless of quality.
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>>183096241
>I remember a lot of people losing their shit when it came out & I never got why.

One of the few things I've learned from all my years in this fanbase is that every new Sonic game will have initial extreme kneejerk reactions to everything new they learn about it. Every "good" thing is magnified times a thousand and every "bad" thing is treated the same way. Then later after the game gets released, the "bad" doesn't seem so bad and the "good" doesn't seem so good. I'm sure this could apply to many fanbases, but I've noticed it's especially prevalent with Sonic fans in general. Basically just take any extreme reaction with a grain of salt and wait for the game to release.
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>>183096826
Good. In the DS version of Sonic Colors, Silver states that his future is a good one. And we know that Sega acknowledges Colors DS since Mother Wisp is in Runners.
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>>183091268
not exactly jumping, sorry, but here!

>>183095801
>>183096205
basically what this anon says. i've been drawing for like 15 years now, especially sonic. nowadays i can just draw sonic characters off my head, but not classic sonic. tyson hesse and cd sonic are huge inspos for me; i've literally stared at their models and studied how they draw every single feature until i can replicate something similar. i think it's coming on okay.
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So Penders posted a new preview to his "masterpiece"
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>>183095168
Please fix his eyelid colors to being the same as his skin tone, they are not canonically blue, thanks.
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>>183097658
Is this Star Wars with furries?
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>>183097454
>>183097475
It kinda sucks that this is gonna be the case, because any discussion of Forces is gonna be cancerous until the actual game is out. The game is doing things I'm not a fan of, but it's ridiculous how any sort of news no matter how big or small, good or bad is gonna lead to endless shitposting.
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where can I read The Lara-Su Chronicles?
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>>183097658
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>>183097797
More like his shitty Archie Sonic OCs mixe with Star Trek and whatever random thing he watched that day
>>183097882
Nowhere, because it'll never come out. Because Penders is working on this shitshow at a glacial pace. He's more focused on the app and merchandise than the fucking thing itself. He's planning on launching this as a franchise. You know what ELSE tried to do that? Cheetahmen and Mighty Number 9
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>>183097658
I think what annoys me the most is how Hershey(?) is sitting in that chair backwards.

>>183097805
Yeah, it's always been irritating to deal with. Just stick it out lad and choose your battles wisely. It'll be out and the dust will have settled before you know it.
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>>183097484
>He thinks SEGA gives a shit about silver's future
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>>183097882
Nowhere. The first issue hasn't even been released, and the prequel story only has 2 page out, with >>183097658 not even having the dialogue put in.
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>>183097805
>because any discussion of Forces is gonna be cancerous until the actual game is out

You say that like it isn't going to be just as cancerous when the game actually comes out. Hell, the cancer levels will probably peak right after release.
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>>183097650
Nice.
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>>183098058
>I think what annoys me the most is how Hershey(?) is sitting in that chair backwards.
That's Geoffrey. You're implying Hershey will ever show up.
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>>183097658
Jesus Christ it's SO bad.
11 yr olds on DA draw better shit than this.
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>>183097882
IN HELL.
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>>183097658
This is a face that has lost all his hope
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>>183098059
Why not? Silver hasn't had any problems since Rivals 2. Forces might fuck up his future, but as of now, it's good.
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>>183098148
He calls himself a professional with decades of comic experience. Most of that being one off gigs as an inker/colorist/penciller (And he calls the former two disposable jobs). Archie Sonic was the only place where he actually did anything important, which makes it ironic that he shits on Ian for having 0 career outside of Sonic when not only has he ended up writing more comics than Penders, but even more issues of Sonic
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>>183097658
How could he not get better in the age of the Internet? How can you fuck up your colors and levels THAT bad? Is he too proud to type the word "tutorial" on Google or what?
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>>183098273
It's just I don't think they gave too much thought about his future. Just because a character in a DS game appears in a spin-off game it doesn't mean "it's official, Silver's future is good".
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>>183097658
How did he get WORSE after leaving Archie?
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>>183097882
Isn't Lara-Su the Penders-generated mother of Knuckles or something?
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>>183098138
I'm not implying anything you donut, that's why I carefully inserted that (?) in there in the event that I misnamed one of Penders' precious OCs. Thank god you corrected me though.

>>183098256
Didn't Dawn Best or one of the old Archie Sonic artists offer to help with the project (for god knows WHAT reason) and he turned them down? Because if so, fucking hell, Penders.
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>>183098506
No, she's Knuckles', I mean KNOX's daughter. It's also kind of implied that in THIS shitshow, she has a son of her own from the future, because why develop characters when you can just add more family members
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>>183098490
It's called "complete freedom without any restraints from executives".
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>>183093357
NICE
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>>183098618
I think it's better than he refused their help, if only because they won't be connected with this shitshow.
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>>183095168
>why is he crying, /sthg/?
He saw all the fans hating him for being in Forces.
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>>183096826
>>183096981
Games don't have canon anymore. They stopped caring after SA2/Heroes.
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>>183091650
no offense but uh, no thanks.

>>183097721
they're blue in mega drive, the comic i'm using as a sonic reference. plus in some games they're blue. it's all up to the art style at the end of the day. nevertheless here http://puu sh/wN19d/e80c31bc1b.png
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>>183097650
Good action pose.
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>>183098618
>Didn't Dawn Best or one of the old Archie Sonic artists offer to help with the project (for god knows WHAT reason) and he turned them down? Because if so, fucking hell, Penders.
First I'm hearing of it, though I wouldn't be surprised because Penders fucked her over as hard as Ben Bates iirc.
>>183098663
For most of his Archie career almost nobody did interfere, probably because the editor Penders lauds as great, Justin Gabrie, was completely hands off
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>>183098954
Thank you for helping my autism, really helps me out.
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>>183098635
>daughter
Wow, Knuckles sure acts differently off-screen.
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>>183098630
I knew what I was getting and I clicked anyway. I am not a clever man.

>>183098635
He's seriously calling Not-Knuckles "Knox"? wew lad

>>183098810
Oh definitely. It's just amusing to me that he's pulling a Chris Chan by refusing other artists working on his VISION because only HE can make it come to life.
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>>183093357
It doesn't look any different, other than the construction lines. You might be better off going to /ic/.
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>>183098339
He hasn't just not gotten better. He's gotten worse.
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We have drawfags in this general that are better than Penders.
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>>183099119
>He's seriously calling Not-Knuckles "Knox"? wew lad
Oh man you haven't even seen the worst. Anyone got the Geoffrey profile with "Princess of Acorn?". He's insisting that Archie Sonic is 100% canon to his project
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>>183097658
>d'you fuck young mobians, Geoffrey?
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>>183099031
Yeah, but I think even him would have SOME standards to put on Penders. Otherwie, the only explanation for this is heavy drug use.

>>183099119
Like I said before, the only reason why this """comic""" isn't considered on the level of Sonichu it's because the drawing quality is 0.001% better.
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>>183098914
You mean after 06, which was supposed to be a reboot
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>>183098339
There are plenty of shitty comic artists like that, think Dobson.
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>>183098954
His spines look so sharp!
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>>183097658
at last the truth is revealed
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>>183090754
I start telling myself to avoid any other Mania spoilers and then they upload this, haven't heard it but boy does it leave an itch
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>>183099359
I'm just gonna post it
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>>183097658
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>>183099436
I do actually, but even in games like Shadow the Hedgehog they still didn't care as much as they used to during the 90s, otherwise it wouldn't be the mess it is.
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>>183100017
Shadow only cared about being a sequel to Adventure 2 and burying the Space Colony Ark plotline

It didn't give a shit, but it gave more of a shit than 06
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>>183099352
>First appearance (original): Sonic the Hedegog #106

That's some salt in the wound right there.
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>>183099590
It's shit anon don't worry about it. Like holy fuck they dropped the ball on this one, after so many hits. I suppose it had to happen eventually. No soundtrack can be literally 10/10 perfection.

Does that help?
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>>183099426
>Yeah, but I think even him would have SOME standards to put on Penders. Otherwie, the only explanation for this is heavy drug use.
The only reason Penders' shit looked okay at the time was because he wasn't doing the art most of the time. When he did, it looked like THIS
>>183099493
I'd take Dobson over Penders any day. Though granted both share similar attitudes and holier than thou faux-progressiveness
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>>183099352
I'm gonna be honest. I ain't reading all that shit. Got a til;dr for it?
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>>183100178
>Shadow only cared about being a sequel to Adventure 2 and burying the Space Colony Ark plotline
Weh! I want to go back to the Ark! It's by far the coolest location in the Sonic universe.
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>>183100390
>Charmy's elbow

Holy shit I can't stop looking at it.
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>>183099031
Ben Hurst, not Ben Bates. Also Justin Gabrie was too busy writing stories as Romy Chachon and giving himself extra pay to wrangle in Penders. Penders literally quit because a new editor told him to start including actual game characters in the stories.
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>>183100578
Never got the appeal of it personally, but I guess it's better than the Death Egg which actually did nothing

I personally wanna go back to Scrap Brain. Best atmosphere of any final level, minus Act 3
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Archie Sonic news coming this week, Aaron says.
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>>183100692
Thanks for the correction on the Ben part. And yes, that is correct. Funnily enough, the editor that made him quit was also the one that got Ian on board and pushed for King Shadow
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>>183097658
The way that finger overlaps the chick in the upper-right is just begging for an edit. Of course this is from a person who uses the term "social intercourse" with no self-awareness at all.

This fucking guy. The "savior" of the Sonic franchise, boys and girls.
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>>183097658
The art just gets worse every preview. I'm not the only one seeing this, right?
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>>183100703
Where did he say this? Twitter?
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>>183100692
>Also Justin Gabrie was too busy writing stories as Romy Chachon and giving himself extra pay

I'd love to read a book about the behind the scenes bullshit like this happening during Pender's era at Archie.
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>>183100970
Everyone sees it. Everyone but Penders. He's delusional enough to dismiss all criticisms as trolling. Even someone who asked about the release date he himself had put out there was a "troll."
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>>183101148
On the livestream about 5 minutes ago. SDCC is this week, so the news might as well come out.
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>>183100970
What if he's just pulling a Freddy Got Fingered here
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>>183095119
I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought of that comment from a week ago.
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"Do you think I've grown a little, mister
Sonic?"
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>>183100703
>>183101290
I'm betting Mega Drive is certainly coming out at the very least.
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How is it taking 5 years for Penders to release his monstrosity?
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>>183090312
You can commission him brah
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>>183100701
Besides looking cool and having such interesting lore surrounding it, the setting allows for amazing level design like Final Rush.
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>>183101479
oh

well then, carry on
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>>183082831
Neat.
Who is doing the music for Mania anyway?
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Who's ready for another comic reboot?
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>>183101412
>tfw no Cream in a Classic Game
>Or Vanilla cause Cream's too young
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>>183101628
Maybe they'll finally be 100% in line with the games.
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>>183101626
>didn't read the desc.
Tee Lopes composing.
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>>183101628
Overdrive will be the new universe. Count on it.

And I am 100% alright with that.
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>>183101201
I only know some and a lot of that is public now. Justin Gabrie/Freddy Mendez/Romy Chacon/Many Hands with a Sharpie = all one person. Scott Shaw/Kent Taylor = same person. Karl Bollers/Benny Lee = Same person. Penders looked at the negative reaction to Sonic #100 and made a big post saying that the issue was fine and those fans disagreeing were just "unimaginative idiots" before deleting the post (and any questioning it) and claiming his forum had been hacked. As much as Julie-Su was called "pink Knuckles" Spaz pretty much saved her character design because Penders described her as Knuckles in a dress. Penders claims that poor sales didn't kill the Knuckles book while ignoring that he literally begged people on his forum to buy two copies at a time, if not extra to give out to other people and "get them hooked."

How's that?
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>>183101743
I hope not
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>>183101743
If they are I'm cancelling my subscription, I've already played the games to death I'd rather not pay money to read shit I already played.
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>>183101849
>I like Sonic.
>I don't want Sonic things about Sonic.

This fanbase never ceases to amaze me.
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>>183101290
Yup, SDCC will most definitely be the time. I was thinking maybe solicitations for October, but those just dropped and there's still no Sonic.
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>>183102009
Sure I want things about Sonic, but I want the comic to improve things instead of carrying over faults and mistakes.
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>>183102009
They'd rather have a SONIC COMIC be about shitty donutsteels
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>>183101958
I'm not resubbing, regardless. Not worth all the bullshit surrounding it the past 4 years.
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>>183102115
Pretty much this. That's why people care so much about the comic being canned. Fuck Knuckles. Fuck Amy. Fuck Shadow. Where are my waifu OCs?!
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>>183101958
You don't want better written takes on existing stories?
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>>183102009
What if... there's more to the Sonic series outside of Sonic himself? Sounds crazy right?
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>>183101743
wouldn't that be kind of boring though? The stories in the recent Sonic games are all trash. I'm sure the comic writers are talented but it's hard to make something from nothing. I love Mega Drive as much as the next person here but I don't think you can turn something like that into a long running series without it getting old fast.
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>>183102327
This is why I hope a new comic is written in house and with only stuff we see in the games. No new donutsteel shit. If the comicfags leave, good. We don't need their waifufaggotry
>>183102336
This. You can relive the best games in comic form for 1/4 the price, if not even less
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>>183102327
As someone who doesn't read them, they at least do more world building than the post Adventure era games so I get why they're so loved
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>>183102341
If you don't want to see Sonic, than take a warp pipe to Mario.
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You know, there was an anon claiming they talk to Hesse at a convention each year and that this year he heard they were trying to get Overdrive published directly through SEGA. That could be interesting.
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>>183102441
Better than waifu OC 23094203492 and her angsty backstory taking up 200 pages while Sonic does nothing. The comics were trash and deserved to die a long time ago. The games have enough to work with already, the writers were just hacks wanting to shove their OC garbage into everything.
>>183102548
This. If a comic has his name on it, it should be about him.
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>>183102472
The waifufags still wouldn't leave, even if they forgot about Sally and co we'd still have Bump posters
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>>183102648
Well I was doing up a serious response to your previous post explaining why you're dumb, but thanks for just showing that you were baiting instead. Have a (You) for saving me the effort.
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Gee guys you sure just love using the same bait don't you?
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>>183102707
Well then we have to get rid of Bump too. OCs are cancer we should've done this years ago.
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>>183091784
idk whether you meant literally but i went with it, felt like drawing metal, i haven't today

anyways my fingers feel like they're gonna kill themselves so i'm gonna stop for today. thanks guys! i lurk so i'll likely do RQs and stuff if it's daytime BST.

>>183099067
no probs lol, we all have things that intensely bother us.
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>>183097658
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>>183102327
You can like game characters and cute waifu OCs at once. They can even exist together and bounce off each other in fun ways. If the games would give us things like a cute archeologist nerd squeeing excitedly over meeting Tikal it'd be nice.
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>>183102862
Robo-selfcest? Is that a thing?
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>>183103009
Look at that shitty waifu OC. She only exists because the fans are disgusting waifufags who will eat up anything with tits in it. The OC you described is bad too. We don't need that shit. The only thing this franchise needs are the games and its characters. Everything else is waifushit cancer
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>>183102862
Cute.
Nice anon.
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Oh look, it's THIS shitty bait again. Don't reply & just ignore
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Being quiet about the comic news itself and it probably dropping at SDCC, I have a feeling it may be a relaunch...
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>>183102648
>Better than waifu OC 23094203492 and her angsty backstory taking up 200 pages while Sonic does nothing. The comics were trash and deserved to die a long time ago. The games have enough to work with already, the writers were just hacks wanting to shove their OC garbage into everything.

I somewhat agree with this. I used to read the comics back in the day and some of them were so awful. Like they just on and on about random people like Mina Mongoose and all of the echidnas constantly. It was so offputting and confusing, especially since none of those characters were interesting in the slightest. I think the approach they take in the Sonic Boom cartoon could work. Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, Amy, and Eggman are the main focus and get the most screentime, but there are random OCs just kind of hanging out in the world. Some of them have names and make regular appearances but they never outshine the main cast. They're just plot devices and make the world seem alive. I'd like something like that with the comics if they get rebooted. Keep the general tone and semi-seriousness from before, but focus on actual official game characters as much as possible.
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>>183103170
i don't know, but i think it's cute personally!
it only really works in ova-land, and even then metal's dead. :(

>>183103284
thank you! <3

>>183103341
i hope it's mega drive v3 at least.
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If the comic was rebooted again and was pure gameverse, than where should it start? Adventure?
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>>183103457
>Keep the general tone and semi-seriousness from before, but focus on actual official game characters as much as possible.
Or better than what you suggested, just have the OCs stay in the background with no names or speaking roles. Just there to establish that other characters exist outside of named ones. That should be fine
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>>183103341
Doubtful. There's no real need to do a reboot, as everyone who's still working on the comic owns the characters, along with SEGA. It's not like last time, where the legal issues forced them to get rid of most of the comic characters. If any announcement is made, it'll be either the return of the comics, or the end of the comics.

>>183103457
>The main focus are on the game characters, but the OCs don't outshine them
You mean the fucking post-reboot universe?
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>>183103524
Sonic Schoolhouse.
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>>183103524
Good question, Adventure probably would be a good place.
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>>183103524
Sonic 1 naturally, then adapt all the games in release order. ALL OF THEM
>>183103640
The OCs still have stories about them, it's still a problem. Even if they're not about them, they still play a big role. Again, just have them in the background.
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>>183103640
Meant to add: I love how these anons are using the exact same bait that was used in the /co/ thread about the comics.
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>>183103735
>Sonic 1 naturally, then adapt all the games in release order. ALL OF THEM
Do you know how long that would take?
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>>183103483
>i hope it's mega drive v3 at least.
It has to be at the very least. That's something every side wants to come out.
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>>183103845
He's a shitposter anon, he doesn't care. Ignore him.

>>183103889
Heese already said that he's still looking for a way to release part 3, so I'm not worried about that.
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>>183103524
Adventure would make sense and would pull in a lot of readers because of nostalgia. It would also be a good way to gauge how the comic is handling worldbuilding and how game adaptations. I think Sonic Forces would be most likely since Sega would probably want a tie in to help advertise the game or make the comic relevant to kids since kids probably haven't played the Adventure games.

Actually to be perfectly honest I think it would start with Sonic 1 and stay in the classic universe because Sega seems to want to shelf modern Sonic.
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>>183103524
Launch it with Mega Drive as the first three issues and go from there. Classic nostalgia is in, you can get a nice shiny new #1 issue and trade, and in around 25 issues they can transition to modern to take advantage of Adventure anniversary nostalgia.

>>183103640
Even with no legal issues, the problem is the average customer still sees over 250 issues of a comic and finds it daunting. "We're continuing the existing comics!" gets pretty much no positive press. "We're doing a new comic with a new #1!" gets a bunch of press and people take notice. That's why DC and Marvel do so many reboots and relaunches. Of course, doing too many can cause burn out, and it has for those two, but since this will be the first new Sonic in 25 years it'll probably get a lot of attention and can draw in a bunch of new readers.
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>>183103341
They do have to make a big splash if the monthly books are returning. A relaunch honestly is decently plausible, new number 1s and such. A reboot is entirely possible too, SDCC is the place to announce it.

I don't think we see anything release until 2018 or so. Actually maybe they could package a digital version of Overdrive with Mania.
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>>183104078
Honestly, I think the announcement of the comics continuing could lead to some positive press, as a lot of people have been hoping for the comics to come back, especially after the Cyberspark video came out. Besides, I'm not too keen on the comic becoming like Marvel or DC where reboots keep taking place every few years.

At the very least, if they're gonna do a reboot, I'd like the current comics to reach 300 & 100.
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>>183010071
The mystery of the extra Fang will continue, shortly.
This cover was drawn by Nigel Kitching incidentally. He's normally the writer but being superhuman he is also able to draw.
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>>183103845
It'd take a while, but it'd give you material to work with in terms of comics than starting from SA1. Fuck, the classic games alone, assuming you give them bare minimum 1 issue each, should put you over 15 issues, and 3&K alone could fill a few on its own assuming you don't cram the entire story into one issue. You can play this really smart, and that's what people don't realize.

I just did the math, and if you gave each game 1 issue at minimum, that puts you at at least 100 games, excluding compilations, Boom, and the crossover games. That's a LOT to work with.

Adventure alone could fill 7 issues, 06 4, SA2 at least 3, you can do this for an obscenely long time, and since by the time you get to the modern games more games will have come out, this model is at least semi-sustainable
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>>183104463
The only people anticipating the comics coming back are a percentage of the people who were already reading the comics to begin with. Relaunching has the potential to bring in a lot more readers.
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>>183104707
Relaunching and rebooting really, there is a difference
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>>183104271
i actually genuinely like the shadow you've got there.
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>>183104549
Yeah, but how many people would be interested in seeing adaptations of the games? Personally speaking, if the comics were to be game-exclusive characters, I would at least like to see some original stories.

>>183104707
Even people who never read the comic has said they hoped the comics fans don't lose the comic. Besides, making the comics even more like the games won't help it if it's still dealt with the bullshit that's seemingly doomed the current comics, like Archie's garbage business decisions.
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>>183105198
>Besides, making the comics even more like the games won't help it if it's still dealt with the bullshit that's seemingly doomed the current comics, like Archie's garbage business decisions.
Well sure, but continuing it also won't do anything if that's the case. Either Archie lets the comic do its thing and make them money or the comic goes to a different publisher.
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Which would drive more sales #1 or #300?
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>>183105385

both
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>>183105378
True, but who knows if SEGA would take the comic to a different publisher? And if they would, who would they give the license to?

>>183105385
Both
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>>183105385
#666
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>>183093615
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>>183105385
Doesn't really matter as long as it stars Shadow
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>>183105385
To be honest, they should have done both.

Let them go to #300 and wrap everything up.

Then reboot with #1, picking up with Forces as the base premise, where all the characters are fighting back as a resistance against Eggman.
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>>183105198
>Yeah, but how many people would be interested in seeing adaptations of the games?
Why do you think people liked Generations? Or are hyped for Mania? Or loved Mega Drive? It's nostalgia. Nostalgia is such an easy thing to exploit, especially when it comes to Sonic. Think of the games people want most: Generations 2, Adventure 3, a REAL Sonic 4. Those are all because of nostalgia. They hit people in the childhood, it makes them yearn for simpler times. You'd have to be a goddamn fool not to exploit that
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>>183090895
Egoraptor
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>>183105565
REMOVE THIS POST OR YOU WILL BE ANNIHILATED
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>>183104504
This story was written by Lew Stringer, one of the main StC writers. He's a little out of synch with Kitching's plotlines in this issue as Robotnik has already left the Special Zone.
This story continues the idea of the SBS(Special Badnik Service), robots which serve as Fleetway's headcanonical inspiration for the Hard Boiled Heavies. (I mostly joke).
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>>183105385
1 is the smarter move since you need many eyes on it coming back and there's still 7 or so issues before they hit 300
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>Muh boost ruins THE TRUE Sonic, fuck the casuals
>Muh OCs ruin Sonic comics, fuck the casuals
>Muh spindash ruins THE TRUE Sonic, fuck the casuals

Why do we get those shitposters who think provoking the fanbase in a "I'm a true purist about muh Sonic fuck off" would kickstart a new autistic age? And why do people keep answering as if it was even the tenth of a good idea?
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FUCK YOU AARON FOR NOT ANSWERING MY QUESTION ON STREAM
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>>183106342
What was it?
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>>183106290
But the Boost IS shit, though. It destroys physics and momentum.
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>>183106090
Predicto is really just a smartphone tied to the Google mainframe, strapped to a badnik.
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>>183106290
It's shitposters thinking that shitting on anything or anyone that isn't "muh true Sonic" would make them mad or leave, or something.
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>>183106398
Will we get any news about Sonic Adventure 3? Has Iizuka or any of the team discussed this?
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>Archie Sonic news comes out
>turns out mainline and universe are canceled but Boom is being relaunched, not rebooted though so everything that happened before is still canon even though it doesn't really matter for Boom

Yfw?
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>>183106443
Please don't start. Please no.
>>183106509
What a waste of a question. They're wrapping up Forces and Mania right now, why would they have any news about upcoming games, let alone something as highly-anticipated as SA3?
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>>183106458
Why does Fleetway Eggman always look so mad?
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>>183105991
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>>183106443
Fuck off
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>>183106458
>Doctor Robotnik
>needs a puke-colored Half-Life scientist to build badniks
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Sonic and Shadow are so cool. I wish hedgehogs were real...
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>>183106881
Hey, even evil geniuses needs some help.
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>>183106949
>I wish hedgehogs were real...
Uh...
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>>183097658
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>>183106659
>>183106867
>M-muh hugbox!
It's a legitimate assertion. Don't just dismiss it because it'll start a shitstorm.
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>>183102001
both are based off of this
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>>183106949
hmm...
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"This post is enclosed by quotation marks"
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>>183107132
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>>183107313
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adventure era was best
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>>183106760
NOW YOU'VE DONE IT.
PREPARE FOR COMPLETE DESTRUCTION.
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>>183107313
>>183107204
>>183107132
More Sonic Kornheisers

>>183107735
I respect your opinion
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>>183107814
Sally! Don't dance naked, everyone's watching!
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>>183106949
>I wish hedgehogs were real...
They are, though.
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>>183108114
how can hedgehog be real if sonic isn't real?
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>>183108060
>>183108246
Stop it, Sonic. It's creepy.
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>>183108114
What a sellout.
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>>183108114
Now I miss my old hedgehog. RIP, Wicket.
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>>183106673
Because the artists didn't know how to draw but one facial expression and body stance for each character.
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>>183108460
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>>183108781
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>>183108781
Bad rat.
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>>183106673
Because he is literally pure evil.
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>>183106458
Sonic's gnome profile on this page is one of a kind.
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Sonic and Amy in real life.
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>>183109223
Where's the poop frothing?
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>>183109180
Stringer is keeping up the grand old tradition of Fleetway Sonic being as nasty to Tails as PG-13ly possible.
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>>183109223
tell me why again they're illegal in california
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>>183109471
One of them robbed the bank
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>>183109407
Predicto would make an excellent Grammaton Cleric, but a poor accountant. If that makes any sense.
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>>183109471
To summarize it involved a big semi truck.
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>>183109627
I have no words for the eyelids here. There are none.
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>>183108114
That looks nothing like Sonic.
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>>183109407
well then...
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>>183109732
It's a SERIES of TUBES.
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>hint of news about the comics brought back shitposter-kun
Oh boy, this takes me back.
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>>183109868
>Those eyelids
Jesus Christ, that's horrifying
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>>183109868
Knuckles is super discommoded off here, but I think most of that is down to being plucked out of the earth like a blind molerat.
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>>183109471
California has a pretty strict no fun policy.
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>>183104078
>That's why DC and Marvel do so many reboots and relaunches.
Isn't that what most people hate about cape comics though?
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>>183109471
Why have a cute little pet when you could suck dick instead?
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>>183110212
i don't know how to suck penis through a straw
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>>183104463
>At the very least, if they're gonna do a reboot, I'd like the current comics to reach 300 & 100.
This. I don't care what happens afterwards, as long as they get to hit the milestones and use them as the sendoff they deserve.
>t. reader since #0
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>>183110083
Do you like Metal Sonic?
Do you like Metal Sonics? Metallixes? Mettallices?

Then Buckle up.
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Just adapt Secret Rings and Black Knight. Those are literally the only two games where Sonic has an actual character. After that, I really don't give a shit.
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>>183110364
No
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>>183105385
The most money would be in a #300 series finale, followed by a #1 relaunch. They'd get to keep that nice "longest-running licensed comic" record too.
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>>183110415
Those games are stupid. Sonic's character is really simple. He's cocky, likes adventure, and goes fast. That's all you need to know about him
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>>183110529
You mean that's all (You) need to know about him.
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>>183110630
What, is stating what his character is now shitposting?
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>>183110529
Is your name Yuji Naka?
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>>183107814
I'm all for some cheesecake, but I wish Ed would make with the porn already.
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>>183110495
Pretty sure they lose the record if it's interrupted or relaunched.
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>>183110423
Well then you can ride in the boot with the dog.
>>183110364
Whatever about the team name, was Vector identified as the boss of the Chaotix in the international instruction manual.
If Vector is looking a little scrawny here, that's because in1995, he was. Elson's depiction is actually pretty faithful to the source here.
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>>183110415
>Just adapt Secret Rings and Black Knight.

As someone that %100 both games and S Ranked, or whatever those games called that, every level mission whatever I gotta say I was pleasantly surprised by Black Knight. After finishing Secret Rings I was expecting more of the same but the only motion controls were moving the wiimote, a small flick will do ya, to attack. Was honestly hoping for a 3rd Storybook game where they put that last bit of motion onto a button instead.
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>>183110803
>I hate Eggman, too!
>Fuck him up, Mighty
Vector a dick
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>>183110917
What would the theoretical 3rd storybook game's setting even be? Feudal/Meiji era japan with a new geisha waifu?

Actually, that doesn't sound bad at all.
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>>183110917
>Every time Sega starts a new series, it always dies after the second game
>Adventure
>Storybook
>Sonic 4
>Rivals
>Rush
>Only exceptions are Advance and the Olympic shit
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>>183111158
I always heard Sega had a little vote and Greek Myth won.
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>>183111261
Not all series. You forgot Battle.

;_;
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>>183111292
Yep. That was just a poll for fun, though, unlike Generations' polls.
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>>183110935
To prove that both Knuckles and the Chaotix are badasses, They Must Fight.
>>183110803
It is unnerving reading Charmy's dialog here.
You can read it in his Heroes voice and absolutely nothing changes. It's the same characterisation, or very close to it. Maybe it comes from the design but Hole E Cow.
There's headcanon and then there's this. Speak comfort to me /sthg/.
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>>183111158
I'd go with a Lovecraft thing, mostly as an excuse to get all of the series' monsters (Chaos, the Gaias, Solaris et. al, Time Eater, etc.) a chance to really shine.
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>>183110803
There wasn't a leader. Sonic the Comic is the only pre-Heroes depiction I know that has Vector as the leader.
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>>183110056
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>>183111819
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>>183111720
Another headcanon coincidence. Or is it?

Also, did Espio actually turn invisible in the game? Then again that's a general Chameleon thing.
>>183111819
>HURR DURR
>>183111561
This throat grab is NOT PG-13. Surprised this got past editorial actually.
It's probably not obvious at a casual glance, but I think the cube platform here is a nod to the Chaotix special stages. They did feature such platforms, albeit in solid colors. There were checkboard patterns in the hexagonal tunnels though.
The point I am trying to make is that Elson probably played/saw footage of the game.
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>>183089382
Well, I may admit I thought he was mature through analyzing his silent personality. I always thought that him having nothing to talk means he knew what was his job and he had to do it, meaning he had nothing to complain or brag how cool he is, especially in Sonic CD's intro and ending animations.
Maybe I thought it wrong, then, since silence doesn't always means the character knows what he should do. You make a point.

>>183090754
Is nobody going to guess what are the background vocals saying? I can hear two different lines.
>"CAN'T. STOP. YOU. HATE IT."
>"CAN'T. STOP. YOU. GIVE IT."
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>>183112149
You're not wrong. Even in Generations, he runs toward Eggman in that mirror hall place before the door closes, whereas Modern Sonic just stands there wondering about the other him.
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>>183110364
>MOTHER FUCKING METALLEX

HELL YEAH

ENDGAME AIN'T GOT SHIT ON THIS
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If the comics are supposed to be good, then it is imperative that certain events and character traits from the games are removed or changed for the better. There is no reason that faults and Sonic Team's mistakes should be carried over.

For example, the Black Arms. This is one of the worst ideas to ever disgrace this franchise and they need to retconned out completely and Shadow's origin story needs to be changed slightly.

I'd say Sonic 06 should be avoided for adaption entirely, but it would be a shame to waste Mephiles who is the only remotely decent thing to come out of that game. If they can find some way to make him work without the Solaris Project, Silver, Iblis, Soleanna and all that nonsense then by all means they should go for it.
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>ENDGAME
Can I get a fast rundown?
>>183112114
I think the omniviewer is supposed to be some sort of computer screen, or a computer workspace looking in, or... something. I'm not clear on what Omniviewer is supposed to be.

But he's been hacked!
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>>183112114
Calm the FUCK down Espio
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>>183112796
>make it like the games except not like these specific parts of the games
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So I just finished playing through every major 2D Sonic game, many of which for the first time.

1, 2, 3&K, 4, CD, Advance 1-3, Rush, Rush Adventure and ColoursDS

This might be a controversial opinion, but I think Rush Adventure is the greatest Sonic game of all time. It's so laid back and comfy, and easily has the most interesting and vibrant level themes of the series.

The only major "flaws" of the game are;

>Grinding!
If you're exploring the world appropriately, and getting good scores, you shouldn't need to grind at all. If you get bad scores, the "grinding" is just to give you another shot at the levels you struggled with, to get the missing Materials.

>The traveling was boring and repetitive!
I don't think so, none of the vehicles overstayed their welcome, and the special stages were fun too. You only use each vehicle a few times, and can use the Stage Select to get to levels you have already played.

>Framerate issues
This is the only major flaw IMO. The boss fights have frame drops, which is a damn shame because they were some of the most unique and fun bosses of the series.

>Too easy
Fits the laid-back adventure/holiday theme of the game, I didn't mind

Also Marine isn't nearly as annoying as I thought she'd be. Kinda cute in fact.

What are your thoughts on Rush Adventure, /sthg/?
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>>183107057
Sure, it's legitimate assertion, but what you hope to accomplish by asserting it? You're not going to change anyone's mind. It's just going to result in people arguing back and forth about which style of Sonic is best, which mechanics, which set of physics, etc. All have their pros and cons that, for whatever reason seem to counter each other depending on the arguer's personal subjective tastes. You're better off putting your thought into something more productive.
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>>183112796
Mephiles isn't even that great, he's just a Shadow recolor that plays people as a fiddle because everyone took retard pills that day

>>183112984
He's right though, there's no reason they should adapt the bad aspects. Fixing plotholes is a much better solution

Shadow's story isn't inherently terrible, it's just written terribly. 06 though, there's nothing redeemable about that
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>>183112796

It's way too late in the game for a hypothetical reboot to change a character's origins like that. It ain't the 90's/00's anymore.

also neither continuity acknowledged 06 outside of the one cameo gag
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>>183113008
While I don't think it's the greatest 2D game, I did enjoy it a great deal when I first played it. The setting was great, the level themes were great, the bosses were piss-easy but still enjoyable. A fun little romp that gave me a glimmer of hope during Sonic's darkest ages.
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>>183111561
>>183112114
>>183112965
>Nack did FUCKING NOTHING throughout the whole fight.
Worst Chaotix Member than Charmy
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>>183112984
I'm glad we agree.
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When is /sthg/'s birthday again?
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>>183090754

>Can't listen to it because I'll get bored of it like Studiopolis and the rest.
>Still no fucking rip of the miniboss theme.

Fucking hell it's the only good song and they're explicitly hiding it..
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1047&v=bZet9-66Pk0

At about 10 minutes in.

We're getting Sonic Comic news this week, 100%.

This is it lads.
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>>183115009
You're late. Really late.
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>>183115127
o-oh
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>>183114343
July 25th
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>>183115009
All my rings on confirmation of Mega Drive release and both Sonic comics getting a relaunch.
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>>183115624
Metal didn't deserve that fate.
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>>183115702
Of course he did. He's nothing but a cold-hearted faker.
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>>183115624
You Can Do Anything = Sonic Boom

Cosmic Eternity < Sonic Boom Ending version
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>>183115884
>You Can Do Anything
You can't do anything, so don't even try. Get some help.
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>>183115009

Companies use comiccon to show off things that aren't comics now.

No confirmation of anything in that. Just that Mania will be talked about.
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>>183090754
I keep trying to avoid spoilers dammit
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>>183115953
Don't do what Sonic does
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>>183097658
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>>183116324
>No panty shots

I'm impressed
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>>183101412
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>>183115816
>cold-hearted
cuddles would warm him up.
>>183115702
it's robotnik's own fault desu. he's rebuildable anyways
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Metal Sonic is a worthless consumer model
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>>183117331
Metal Sonic is still used. Unlike you, Omega.
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It's sad. 06 could've been so good. Sonic himself is actually fun in this game when it's just the normal gameplay. The levels for him are designed fairly well, with occasional branching paths and risky routes that lead to good rewards. The problem is everything else. The snowboarding, the mach speed sections, the way the friends control (Knuckles is more tolerable than Tails except when HE STICKS TO THE FUCKING WALL JESUS CHRIST), the way the camera doesn't focus on the boss during most boss fights (Iblis phase 2 didn't have this issue most of the time. MOST of the time, and I found it to be an actually decent boss. Drawn out yes, but kinda fun.), the shitty hub world, the dreary aesthetics, the banal fucking story, it all drags down what could've been good
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>>183117471
>06 could've been so good
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>>183117471
Blaze is even more fun because she's basically Sonic except she also has a spin attack so you don't have to stop to use the clunky homing attack because they decided rolling shouldn't hurt enemies anymore. Too bad she's limited to a tiny fraction of the game.
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>>183117571
A lot of shit in the franchise is essentially wasted potential.
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>>183117707
It totally is. Even Heroes is wasted potential

Sonic Team is just unable to develop a gameplay style beyond alright these days
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>>183117769
They struck gold with Boost, even it they half-assed Parkour.
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>>183117471
someone else sees the light

one day, one day we'll have that good 3D sonic.
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>>183117571
Granted, I haven't played Shaow or Silver yet, this is just from Sonic's story. But deep down, there is something that could've been good. Just buried under awful design choices and a shitty story. 06 frustrates me for this reason. Shadow was doomed from the start. 06, there's glimmers, there's something deep down that could've been well worth the money. I see why people want to remake this game
>>183117646
That's the thing, I don't even mind the homing attack delay. In fact, it prevents me from accidentally careening off an edge more often than not (Granted that could be me being bad because I did that shit all the time in SA1 and SA2 even after years of playing) If you didn't give enemies massive health bars I think people would be more behind it. The problem is the game can be very combat focused so it gets really repetitive.
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>>183117945
>good 3D Sonic
Colors and Generations
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>>183117995
Those are 2D games, anon.
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>>183117995
cuck
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>>183117945
I think Generations is a good game, but it falls just short of greatness. Colors I haven't played, and I don't like Unleashed. But I think I get now why people want a true SA3. This formula can be worked out, there is something here that could be made into a fantastic 3D platformer, a 3D (I think Boost is more a platformer/racing game hybrid desu but I still enjoy it a lot)
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>>183117995
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>>183090754
Naganuma/10
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>>183118245
fuck of adventurecuck. The only things this franchise needs is classic and boost
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>>183118245
generations is the worst of the boost games though. unleashed was the one where they got it right.
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>>183118405
I like all 3 styles, believe it or not. Each has their merits and each has their downsides. The adventure-style games are by far the most inconsistent in terms of overall quality though, but I think at least another attempt at an adventure styled game is worth some amount of consideration
>>183118502
I have to disagree. I feel like certain elements o the boost in Unleashed were done better in Gens, plus I'd take Classic's mediocre levels that are done in less than 10 minutes over the overly long Werehog levels.
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>>183118245
It's been 11 years since an Adventure formula game and 16 years since an actual Adventure game, so at this stage "Sonic Adventure 3" would just be a brand new 3D platformer built from the ground up, except not garbage like Lost World. And in the sense that I want a brand new good 3D platformer I guess that means I want a Sonic Adventure 3, but I really don't want them to sweat the details and include the flaws of the Adventure games just because they think those are somehow necessary.
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>>183118625
you can't disagree. generations is objectively shit. it's a racing game where there is no point in racing because the bar is set so ridiculously low. in unleashed shaving seconds off your time actually means something. plus it has a nicer story, nicer graphics, and about 100ms less input lag.
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>>183096826
Japanese time travel plots pretty much always result in split timelines. There's one timeline where Silver beats Iblis as we see at the end of his story, one timeline where Iblis is never released, and one timeline when Cell kills Silver before he can travel back in time.
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>>183118839
06 is very novikov right up until the end though. So depending on how you view it 06 could be seen as being full novikov or at the very least single malleable like in BTTF.
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>>183118734
>And in the sense that I want a brand new good 3D platformer I guess that means I want a Sonic Adventure 3, but I really don't want them to sweat the details and include the flaws of the Adventure games just because they think those are somehow necessary.
I can agree with that. Take what worked and either refine or exclude what didn't. I would like multiple playable characters
>>183118767
>My opinion is fact
Wew lad. I just think Generations controlled better, even if Unleashed was better in terms of how you got the boost. Never felt any input lag though, maybe it's a console dependent thing though (For the record I play on 360).
>Nicer story
Granted, Generations' story is by far its weakest aspect, but Unleashed's is really nothing special. Great opening and good finale, but everything in between is horribly forgettable.
>Nicer graphics
I'll give you that. Unleashed's budget was massive and it shows
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>>183118839
Cell is my favorite Sonic character. I'm sad that Frieza was brought back as the villain in Forces instead.
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>>183118625
>liking all 3 styles
>Not picking one style & getting into childish arguments with other fans
Loser
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>>183118767
Unleashed Project (a Generations mod) > playing the day time levels in Unleashed

And that's not bringing up shit like the Werehog, time wasting irrelevant hub worlds, inferior voice acting, Chip not shutting the fuck up when you're trying to play the game, mapping the homing attack to the boost button and not the jump button like literally every other game, and so on.
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>>183114343
In exactly one week!
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>>183118978
you gain an entire rank just for not dying. so effectively all B ranks become A and all A ranks become S, an they're easy to get anyway. Not getting S is what's hard. Plus, as you said, you recover boost just by existing in gens. All together it makes the game completely worthless, where unleashed had some challenge. And I have to say levels that were made from the ground up for boost rather than remixed ones work a lot better too.
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>>183105565
Why hasn't Eggman created a robot waifu yet?
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Archie Sonic is on hiatus because they're releasing the issues in 2018 as part of the series' 25th.

Screencap this.
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>>183119164
I actually like 3d overworlds in Sonic games, but i can see why people are bothered by it.
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>>183119214
Power fantasies > sexual fantasies
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What kind of animals are Bump and Sage?
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>>183119215
But the series' 25th was 2016. 2018 would be the 27th.
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>>183119164
>mapping the homing attack to the boost button and not the jump button like literally every other game, and so on.

like literally every other game that came AFTER unleashed. and the unleashed way of doing it is better because boost and homing attack both propel you forward while jump you want to go only up. Mixing them up like in gens means you get unintended boosts that fuck up your platforming just from trying to jump while compensating for the input lag.
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>>183119214
>implying Scratch is not his waifu
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>>183119215
>2018 won't be the 27th anniversary
What did he mean by this?
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>>183118502
>Unleashed got it right
Except for the drift that barely worked and the homing attack put on the boost button instead of on the jump button where it belongs. Now then, in terms of level design, I think Unleashed is the best. Gosh, if there were only a way to play Unleashed's levels with the better control of Generations.
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>>183119347
>not combining them into a single fantasy

Pleb
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>>183119452
see >>183119406

putting [move forward fast] and [jump upward slowly] on the same button is literally retarded.
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>>183119373
Bump's a deer & Sage's a sloth
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>>183082831
I really wish they would have gone with a sound signature much closer to S&K.
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>>183119198
I'm gonna be honest here, I don't care about ranks in Sonic games, and I think Generations provides a better challenge in trying to master the levels for speedrunning purposes. I enjoy Generations in the same way I enjoy Kirby: It's not very challenging outside of self imposed challenges (Or True Arena in Kirby's case) but the base game is so fun anyways that I keep coming back to it. I do enjoy a healthy challenge, but sometimes I'd rather just blast through a level and have a ton of fun, maybe that's just me though.

And as for levels, I liked Generations' set (Mostly for Modern and with 2 exceptions there being Crisis City and Planet Wisp)
>>183119339
Side note, in 06 it's absolutely fucking awful. Probably my least favorite part of the game so far outside of the boarding sections
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>>183119420
Scratch did call him Daddy a lot.
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>>183119497
I feel much better imagining myself killing and subjugating people with superpowers than I do just sexually dominating them. Come to think of it, the latter doesn't make me feel good at all.
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>>183119406
>like literally every other game that came AFTER unleashed
Every other Sonic game with a homing attack put it on the jump button, so Unleashed suffers from a bunch of muscle memory issues. Additionally, putting it on the boost button means you couldn't simply air dash forward if there was something within homing attack range, even if you don't want to homing attack.

>>183119542
>every game except one is literally retarded, I'm right and not a special snowflake
No.
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>>183119665
>Getting the thorndick
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>>183119657
>not killing them by fucking them to death

Pleb
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>>183119675
not an argument. I made a rational presentation of my case. you just said no. fuck your muscle memory. it's a big problem that takes more points off of gens.
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>>183119215
Purposefully making people think your comic is canned is the worst possible marketing tactic.
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Boost and Classic is the only things this franchise needs. No Adventure. Prove me right.
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>>183120105
This

Plus Boom Sonic
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>>183119927
It might not have been purposeful. Could have been they were not sure if it'd be canned due to having to discuss it with Sega so they decided to be silent on the matter. Or just plain old incompentice on Archie's part as they focused more on Riverdale. My guess is a little of Column A, a little of Column B.
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>>183119851
What even is the problem with putting the homing attack on the jump button when Sonic's in the air anyway? It's not like you're going to press it again when he's in the air unless he's got a double jump. Which, surprise surprise, Gen or Unleashed didn't have.
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Will any other Sonic woman will ever be as cute as Sticks?
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>>183120105
>boost
Boring semiautomatic racing game

>classic
Boring 2D nonsense

Final Rush is the epitome of 3D Sonic gameplay and level design
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>>183119616
Hubworlds can work in sonic if they just let the main levels be selectable right away while keeping missions, shops, BGM, etc in the Hub
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>>183119851
>not an argument
I gave an argument. Mapping homing attack to the jump button gives the player more options by allowing them to air dash. Homing attack is not "move forward fast", that's boost and air dash. Homing attack is targeted against something specific, which may not even be in front of you. Air dash is the air version boost, homing attack is not. This should not be a difficult concept to grasp.
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>>183120105
Boost and Classic are currently destroying the franchise.
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>>183118978
>Granted, Generations' story is by far its weakest aspect, but Unleashed's is really nothing special.

Not that Anon, but I disagree. Unleashed had one of the better stories of the Modern games. Unleashed isn't my favorite game, but its atmosphere is unrivaled. All the worldbuilding it had, all the people you meet from across the globe and how they interact with each other is great. I think some even have their own little character arcs. It really made me feel for the characters after getting to know them, plus Unleashed's OST is fantastic. When I get invested in a game's atmosphere, world, and music, I end up getting pretty invested in the plot as well. But this is all just my opinion.
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>>183120572
So like Generations essentially? Because that's what it did and I think that's the way to do it
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>>183120337
if you press jump to jump again right after landing, the timing is so delicate you may shoot off into space instead of jumping a second time. especially with all that input lag.

like I said, jump you want only to go up, not forward fast. boost is the button for going forward fast, so putting homing attack on there is a better idea. you can then think of homing attack as a context sensitive boost, which makes more sense as well.
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>>183112114

yikes
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>>183113008
I liked it. It's not the best, but it's the best Rush style and boost game. Also the missions aren't that easy.
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>>183120676
But it fucking isn't, it's a homing attack that aims directly at one enemy and is an attack you can only do while jumping

It's been an addition to the jump, the boost never had anything to do with it and never should
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>>183120676
>input lag
You are literally the only person I've seen to complain about input lag, which makes me think it's on your end. I've seen people complain about the startup animation for jumps, but that's not input lag and would not cause what you're saying.
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>>183120789
>tap x
>shoot forward in a burst of speed
>tap a
>shoot forward in a burst of speed

totally different
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>>183120672
Yea pretty much.
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>>183120531
>Final Rush is the epitome of 3D Sonic gameplay and level design
go away adventurecuck
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>>183120651
Here's the thing. Most of the worldbuilding and interesting details in Unleashe aren't part of the actual story, but part of the hub worlds, which is fine, but people go on about how the actual STORY had deep worldbuilding when it was mostly exposition about the Gaias and the temples and shit and Sonic and Chip just doing that while running into Eggman a few times.

The NPC interactions are great on't get me wrong, some of the best in the series, it's just that in the grand narrative, they mean very little. It's like the NPCs in SA1: entirely optional but they had interesting little arcs and some neat dialogue.

I will give you the OST though that shit is bangin'. Shame most of the night stuff is drowned out by the battle theme because the night tracks are some of the absolute best
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>>183120651
I really should replay this sometime
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zYH0dlRcVk
Man, a lot of the NPCs were pretty cute
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>>183120816
maybe you just have old man reflexes, or are such a console peasant you're used to it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDzKN4ihdtM
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>>183120978
Holy hell, I fucked that up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ek0u-v_0X28
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>>183120994
>playing PS3
>calling others console peasants
Why the fuck are you not playing the PC version dipshit, it's your own fault.
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>>183121184
the PC version is even worse than that you dumb cuck
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>>183120860
>tap X
>shoot straight forward in a burst of speed that consumes boost meter, because it's an aerial boost

>tap A
>either shoot toward a specific target or do a slow short roll to adjust your platforming

Yes, different.
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>>183121268
I've replayed Generations dozens of times both vanilla and with many combinations of mods and the only lag is with the startup animation, which I already mentioned.

It's on your end, not the game's.
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>>183118287
>Screenshot of one part of the first act of the first zone
>c-c-colors is pure shit guys
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>>183121325
>tap A
>either shoot toward a specific target or do a slow short roll to adjust your platforming

in what universe? if there is no target the homing attack just goes straight forward. exactly the same as boost the only difference is you can only tap it.
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Is Forces reusing a lot of assets from previous games?
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>>183121451
The level design certainly is
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>>183120105
Hey, guys. What's the good news? Any developments, or just shitposting as usual?
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I love how despite the continuous shitposting, some anons are still having a decent conversation about Sonic.

>>183121596
Forces & comic news this week, shitposting in the meantime. How's 4.0 coming along?
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>>183121438
>It's on your end
I don't have input lag on anything else. I have less input lag on this text box than on fucking generations. you're completely immune to logic. kill yourself peasant.
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>>183121532
Ok anon, now do comparisons of every act in the game. Because that's the only way you can convince me that the game is shit when I know its good.
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>>183121531
>Classic Sonic
>Green Hill Zone
>Chemical Plant according to Vector
>Egg Dragoon
>Wisps

Yep
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>>183121532
>complaining about a special stage
Wow, Sonic 2 and S3&K have shit level designs, all you do is run down a corridor or along a completely flat plane.
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>>183121641
Should be good to go soon. Any other requests before I drop it?
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>>183121706
>Wisps
They're not assets; they're powerups in every Sonic game from now on
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>>183121825
Nah, I'm good.
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>>183121849
>They're not assets

Do you not know what an "asset" in game design is dumbass?
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>>183121825
Any way to fix that weird roll when Sonic lands from a homing attack?
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>>183121668
I only have your word for it, and I repeat that you are literally the only person I've heard complain about input lag on the PC version that isn't the startup animation, so since all we're doing is firing anecdotal evidence back and forth, I'll believe everyone else over you. Hope you track that problem down.
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>>183121438
also it's not a startup animation. show me the frame where sonic anticipates the jump. it doesn't exist. he goes straight from standing to jumping with no startup. it's delayed. that's input lag
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>>183121849
t. bazooka
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>>183121849
When the fuck did Sonic need level gimmick power ups though? Speed shoes, invincibility, rings, shields

Covers all you need. If you need new power ups tie them to the monitors that have been in the series since the first game and don't add special alien creatures that come from space
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>>183121527
>exactly the same as boost the only difference is you can only tap it
Umm, ha, no. The air dash is a SHORT boost in the air, used for correcting jumps. If you boost in the air, you fucking FLY and is in no way meant for precision. If I press a button that should be used for gaining a little bit of air time to help with platforming, it better not be mapped to the same button that sends me over the platform I'm trying to land on.
Take into account the moments where you go for a homing attack on an enemy, but you're just a little short of the radius for it to activate. Would you rather have A)A short little boost in the air that doesn't completely fuck you over or B)A huge fucking boost that ends up destroying the enemy but without a hop, either ruining the path you were trying to take or making you fall of the platform?
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>>183121995
>anecdotal evidence
I posted video evidence.
maybe try a google search to see how common a problem it is.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=sonic+generations+input+lag

you are in the wrong here and you won't admit it. just fucking slit your wrists you worthless sack of crap
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Have you seen Night of the Werehog in 3D /sthg/?
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>>183122156
The animation in that is top-notch, but nah.

>>183122149
Calm down.
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>>183122149
>I-I'M NOT BAD THE GAME IS BAD WAHHHHH
T. DSP
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>>183122107
I would rather that when I press jump sonic jumps instead of going careening off in a random direction depending on what millisecond I pressed it. You can make small dashes with boost just fine.
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>>183122227
Don't anon. He's pretty angry right now, just let him cool off.
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>>183120105
>Classic is the only thing this franchise needs
FTFY. Everything after 3&K was garbage. Every character after Sonic and Eggman was garbage. The series needs a hard reboot
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>>183122203
>>183122203
I'll calm down when you start being reasonable you fucking retard. make rational responses to my posts where you acknowledge evidence and logic or kill yourself
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>>183122334
Probably past his bedtime.
>>183122403
I think you need to go to bed, before you get even crankier. Or maybe just a diaper change.
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>>183122350
3&K was garbage mate.
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>>183122156
I'd like to because I love that short.
I've played Generations in 3D though.
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>>183122403
>>183122282
Show me a comparison of boosting in the air that's "just fine" and small air dashes that are just fine
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>>183122493
Fuck off cuck. I bet you like Tails and the other friends that ruined Sonic forever you piece of fucking shit. 3&K was in good in spite of the shitty fucking other characters
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>>183120929
I consider it part of the story because a significant part of the game is flying around the world and talking to people. So learning more about them was at least encouraged.

>>183120978
>Man, a lot of the NPCs were pretty cute
Yeah. Shame SEGA just abandoned the artstyle for some reason. I really liked it. Unleashed had some cute females.
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>>183122403
>Everything after the title screen of Sonic 1 was garbage
FTFY. The series went downhill the moment the title screen of Sonic 1 ended & it's clear this series just needs to be Sonic wagging his finger at you forever
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>>183122156
Yes. I wished SEGA made more animations like these. They don't have to be long, just shorts of the cast doing stuff.
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>16 new tracks
So they basically revealed 90% of the game already?
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>>183122350
>he doesn't like Omega
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>>183102529

This anon gets it. If they games had an actual coherency in its universe and expanded thier personalities farther than how one note they all are outside of Sonic, I wouldn't even begin to miss the comics.

>>183121531

>Someone posts my art
Neat!
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>>183122156
I haven't seen it at all.
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Why are classicscum always so tilted and aggressive?
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>>183123030
He's shit. Why do you need to give a robot a backstory and personality? Why do you need to make him a good guy? He's a robot, and one of Eggman's. He should be there for Sonic to destroy
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>>183123267
Any fan that chooses to only like one aspect of the franchise will become incredibly hostile. You gotta branch out and understand the bad and good of every Sonic game to full appreciate the franchise.

in other words, Sonic idort for life.
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>>183122974
>those 3 shorts from Unleashed
That game had so much charm. Shame it kinda fizzled out afterwards.
I just find the series to be so boring now. Not terrible but extremely mediocre.
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>>183123218
>Are you all just jacking off to furry porn and pictures of Big the Cat?
Hey man, don't knock it 'til you try it. I can give you some material if you want.
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>>183123267
FUCK OFF ADVENTUREKEK BOOSTFAG HEROESHIT LOSTWHORELD
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>>183123267
Because they think they are what the franchise "first served" and think they are entitled to it.
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>>183123267
Why are moderncucks so insecure about their shitty games?
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>>183123267
They're 90's kids
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>>183123267
Each corner of the gameplay split are scum:

>Classicfags are aggressive
>Adventurefags are loud
>Boostfags are submissive and love being pounded by bazooka
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>>183123492
t. classicuck
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>>183123218
IGN pls
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Do I belong in the Adventurefag corner if I like Sonic Heroes the most?
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>>183122974
Wait, it was actually a trick question. Wasn't it only showed in Joypolis, in Japan?
>>183123458
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>>183123767
No, you're just kind of a weirdo.
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>>183123458
Better "Mediocre" and safe than godawful. Albeit I think we should've gotten an actual Generations 2 instead of Forces
>>183123632
DESU Boostfags need to get louder. It's the only way to get heard, plus it's how fanbases generally are. No point in being polite when nobody around you is
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>>183123024
Probably couldn't fit everything on there.
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>>183123632
So what does that make the people who like all 3? Like me?
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*blocks your path*
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>>183124181
Sonic idort
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>>183123826
I've seen it on YouTube, but never it in 3D. I didn't know Night of the Werehog even had a 3D version.
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>>183124219
Sonic's after your emeralds. Allow me to help.
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>>183123024
Any physical medium will have limited space on a single disc. They could probably released a two or three disc soundtrack if it was a simple CD or digital release (and probably will) but since this is a limited edition vinyl there will be tracks they'll have to cut. Additionally, these are arranges specifically mastered for analog, so ordering masters of all of them would be wasteful.
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>>183124251
*but never in
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>>183123767
I feel like if the control wasn't so slipperly like adventure, the flight characters weren't forced into that stupid flying formation and the game didn't force you to switch gameplay styles and had them only as alternate routes the game would've been a lot more solid

Which means to basically change the whole game
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>>183124484
Honestly, I'd rather have the mix and match tag system of Advance 3.
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>>183113008
I'm currently replaying Rush Adventure, which is a coincidence, and I'm on Haunted Ship. I think it's good so far, but I will say it's a kind of dissapointing its soundtrack doesn't really sound anything like Rush's music. I know what I was expecting, but still, I'm a kind of sad, especially when I think the soundtrack from Rush was so good that it defined the identity of Rush's games, along with the visual style and others. Though, it's good thing that I already found two tracks that caught my ears so far, which is the training's and the boss's themes. It's good to know you really enjoyed it.

>The traveling was boring and repetitive!
There were complaints over this? I thought it was fun, at least for the waterbike parts. It's really good to boost, hit enemies and do tricks. Reminds me special stages from Sonic 2 and Rush. Too bad though the lenght of it was short as hell.
I think you meant the other forms of traveling excluding waterbike that were boring and repetitive. I can't say anything to them, since I only have the big ship unlocked, so I need to play it further to judge.

>Also Marine isn't nearly as annoying as I thought she'd be.
She's good at being a "clown". She brings the comedic side of this game, so I think she makes a good participation on this game.

Also, I never thought Blaze's world is actually the very same world the game is showing until recently, and that shocked me like how it shocked Tails and Sonic. I can explain that the last time I played the game, I wasn't very interested in the dialogue, so I just ignored it. I always imagined it was a medieval place with hot and fire natural phenomenons from everywhere and a crystalized pink huge castle where lives Blaze.

>>183119420
>>183119630
But Eggman isn't gay and always trashtalk poor Scratch.
Or are you suggesting he IS and has love confession that he's incapable reveal to him?
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>>183124294
Even then, only releasing CERTAIN tracks is a really odd choice
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Jesus christ /sthg/, what did you do to her?
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>>183125254
Told her she'll never break the status quo.
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>>183125254
I can't even tell who that is. Amy?
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>>183124839
Would be interesting, but cuts down on the opportunity to include more characters if they were as 'thought out' as Advance 3's combos were
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>>183124219
I heard you're on a quest for the Master Emerald
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>>183125187
Their only other option is to pay to remaster every single track and release a set that contains two or three discs, and for a vinyl release that's a huge risk because, although it's been re-surging in popularity, vinyl is still a definite niche.

Do you remember the official soundtrack release of Rush, and how it had "Digital Remakin'" versions of the main songs (except Ska Cha Cha, which was cut for space)? It'll be like that, where each zone is represented by one song, instead of having both acts. It'll also probably cut down all the jingles and shorter songs that are normally included with official soundtrack releases.
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and unlike chuckles i don't huckle
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Did you hear about today's stream, and the SDCC panels and the news and stuff yet, /sthg/? If you did, what was your reaction?
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>>183125254
Told her she was a shit I didn't mean it

>>183125370
Yeah, it's Amy.

>>183125571
5 Chuckles outta 5
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>>183125684
Well in that case
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>>183125643
Read the thread.
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I've been thinking about how Forces implements elements from the different corners of the franchise:

>Bringing the popular (except that red faggot) villains back
>Darker tone
>OC creator
>Multiple playstyles
>Reusing Classic Sonic and Green Hill

What if Forces is a last ditch effort by Iizuka? Sonic has had many blunders so maybe the reason it has all this is to play it safe because Iizuka's job is at risk after Boom?
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>>183125761
There's barely anything in the thread.
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>>183125851
Iizuka already got kicked upstairs to an oversight role, he doesn't even have a direct role on the game this time.
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>>183126052
It's already been posted and discussed. If it isn't satisfactory then oh well.
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>>183126052
It was talked about somewhat & there's a thread on /co/ discussing it too.
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>>183115884
sonic boom (crush 40 and cash cash) > you can do anything > sonic boom (original)
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>>183117995
>Colors
2.5D

>Generations
Not good and more 2.5D than 3D
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>>183118405
>and boost
Why? You can just play some shitty mobile phone game and you'll have the same exact experience. There's no NEED for the boost.
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>>183127089
>Colors is good
>But not Generations
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>>183127445
Yes, Generations is garbage and has none of what made Colours good.
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>>183127965
But nothing in Colors is good
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>>183121932
This reminds me of the /cgl/ anon who wanted to cosplay as Buddy and I wonder if they're going to follow through with it.
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>>183127994
like I liked Sonic Penis Colors, BALDY MCNOSE HAIR, it was a refreshing time too when sonic was bad also.
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>>183128124
When hasn't Sonic been bad though?
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>>183128373
the year of the lord 2006
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>>183128851
This. Sonic Genesis is the best game in the series.
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I found a deepthroating compilation with casino park zone's theme as the background music
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>>183124219
*teleports behind you*
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>>183129413
link
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Redbubble shirt dumps:

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>>183129413
That's nice anon.
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How y'all doing tonight?
What kind of music are you listening to?
Anything radical going on? Are you treating yourself well?
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>>183129329
>tfw bought Sonic Genesis back in the day
>Didn't care how bad it was, just wanted to play Sonic 1 again
>Then a few years later find out how bad the port really was

I love how bad it is. It's such a gloriously awful train wreck and fun to fuck around and see how bad it is. I wish I could find it
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>>183130030
Terrible, it's almost Wednesday and I'm trying to muster up the will to learn a fucking code.
>>
What do you guys think of the Advance games?
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>>183129941
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>>183097239
In the original, the Deadly Six control mega man and make him shoot himself.
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>>183130217
I don't like playing them on an actual GBA

Advance 1 feels too claustrophobic, Advance 2 is decent, I have the most nostalgia for Advance 3 even if it's a genuinely bad game

All of them handle special stages and Super Sonic fucking horribly. The Classic games are just more fun to play
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>>183122974
Was this just made from the version that's on Youtube? I've never been able to find a very high quality version of it. I wonder where that even came from because I don't think it was ever released on dvd or bd.
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>>183130217
I love them, 3 is the weakest one but a lot of fun can still be had with it. The music is pretty nice too. 1 is my personal favorite but the others are good as well.
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>>183130473
>it's a genuinely bad game
Why?
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>>183130217
Handheld Sonic in general are the only games where "screen too small" is a legitimate complaint. Even if the game is design to take the screen size into account, it still ends up limiting what the game can do, which is devastating for a series built on speed like Sonic. I enjoyed them (even Advance 3) but I keep feeling that all of them would be leagues better if they had even Genesis screen size, let alone Genesis+widescreen.
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>>183130030
I haven't been feeling the greatest or doing much myself but I'm trying to.

I'll be attempting to falling asleep on https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ULoaumV9Ec or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pp0_u9jmQwY

Hope you're doing well yourself, anon.
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>>183130217
1 is great, 2 is good, 3 is alright. Overall a fun trilogy for the most part.
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>>183130637
Horrible level design, the partner gimmick not actually adding anything, can't make up its mind being platform-heavy like Advance 1 or speedy like Advance 2. This plus the fact I don't consider any of the Advance games to have that good of level design to begin with

And the emphasis on Super Sonic final stages make me judge the games more harshly cause the Special Stages are all so bad or in Advance 2's case, the worst way to ever get a Special Stage in the series
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>>183130217
The true successors of the classic games.
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Do people actually like this crap?
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>>183130217
They can be very frustrating but overall a good time. But they'll never keep you coming back for more the way the genesis titles do.
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>>183131017
Yes
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>>183131017
it's weird how the controls are so fucking delayed at the beginning and they become more accurate as it gets faster
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>>183131017
>I just failed Special Stage 4
ftfy
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>>183131057
Stop that
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>>183131017
Yes and you have objectively shit taste for not liking it.
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>>183130571
>Was this just made from the version that's on Youtube?

idk. Someone posted it in a thread a while ago and I downloaded it.
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>>183131182
But I legitimately like it
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>>183131157
I don't have time to fail Sonic 3 Special Stages when I can play Special Stages that are actually fun.
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>>183131017
Not a fan of having to do it so many times.
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>>183123386
Nah man, Omega is the best.
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>>183131379
>actually fun.
>Posts Heroes
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There's one thing that I simply just hate about Sonic Advance 3. One small detail that always bothered me.
CHAOS ANGEL ACT 3.
This level is just plain bad and outright stupid. It's the last act of the last level, it has a cool sounding name and and great music! In fact, it has the most hyping name, music and graphics in the entire game. And this is Sonic, so you would except to run or something I guess? WELL NO, YOU WAIT ON A PLATFORM. THAT'S IT. THAT'S THE ONLY THING IN THIS ENTIRE ACT.
Waiting on a moving platform is boring. Always. It was boring when Mario did it, even. So why do it with Sonic? AND MIND YOU IT'S SONIC WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HE DOESN'T JUST STAND ON A PLATFORM WAITING WHO THOUGHT THIS WAS A GOOD IDEA IS A COMPLETE IDIOT I DON'T WANT TO SGTAND ON A PLATFORM WHILE PLAYING SONIC AND THAT MUSIC PLAYS AND THAT LEVEL IS CALLED CHAOS WHERE'S THIS CHAOS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT I'M JUST STANDING STILL WHY WOULD YOU DO THIS TO ME THE GENESIS GAMES NEVER HAD YOU STAND ON A PLATFORM FOR MORE THAN A FEW SECOND AND IT WAS ALREADY BORING WHY WOULD YOU BASE AN ENTIRE LEVEL ABOUT WAITING A SONIC LEVEL THAT IS ALL ABOUT WAITING FOR A THING THAT MOVES BY ITSELF AND IS SLOW. SONIC WOULD NEVER PUT UP WITH THIS EVEN IF HE WASN'T IN A HURRY OR ANYTHING SO WHY WOULD THEY EXPECT THE PLAYER TO WITH ALL OF THIS INCENTIVE TO RUN I DO NOT UNDERSTAND IT WASN'T A GOOD IDEA TO BEGIN WITH, BUT WHY MAKE IT WORSE
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>>183131379
They were the easiest ones though
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>>183094194
epicness
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>>183130668
Are you saying you would like it better if you could have it have a larger visual or that the levels need to be designed around it too?
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>>183130217
Some of the best games in the series. 3 is the best.

I know its a common opinion for 3 to be the worst, but having played them all recently, I am adamant that not only is 3 not as bad as people say, it's also the best of the three.

The Team-Up mechanic is immensely fun and replayable, bosses are great, level themes are some of the best of the entire franchise, level design is at the very least, better than 2.
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>>183130217
My favorite 3 Sonic Games in a row.
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>>183131654
Combination of the two. Simply having a large visual would've made certain parts of the game, most notably Advance 3, much less bullshit, but being afforded extra screen space would've allowed the level designers more freedom and flexibility in what they could do. One of the biggest complaints with Dimps games, even the good ones, is enemy placement and bottomless pits, and both of those would be improved substantially simply by making the screen bigger.
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>>183131786
I'm afraid they had other releases between them.
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>>183130217
They all have their unique quirks which is interesting for a series that, on their surface, seem very similar. They all offer something new and different.
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>>183101412
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How will Sonic ever recover?
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>>183131532
Bruh it was one moving platform sequence, chill.

Chaos Angel is actually one of the coolest levels ever
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>>183109923
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>>183131532
act 2 and 3 should've had their music switched desu
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>>183132815
I legitimately think it's supposed to be switched and the devs just fucked up.
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>>183131379
>Sonic 3 special stages are bad
>Heroes special stages are better
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>>183132387
He's probably used to it by now
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>>183132393
Yeah but not act 3 unfortunately.

>>183132815
>>183132928
Are you sure it wasn't the levels that are supposed to be switched? It would just make a lot more sense.
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>>183134053
That'd make a lot more sense actually
>Act 2's a sort of break between Acts 1 and 3 with calmer music
>Act 3's fast which fits better with the ridiculously fast music
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SEGA/Sonic Team have lost their minds again and have decided to grant you the power to make one of your head canons canon, which one is it and why /sthg/?
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To be honest, any time games revisit old locations like Chaos Angel, it gets me super excited. Especially if they're lore-heavy locations.

>mfw I realized Chaos Angel was supposed to be Sky Sanctuary during a huge storm

That's the kind of fanservice I want, not just Green Hill Zone #12.
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>>183134293
>which one is it
Sonic is the embodiment of chaos. It's a stupid one, but I just wanna see the reactions here
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>>183134293
Unleashed onward was a continuity reboot because the Gaia temples seem inconsistent with the Master Emerald and Chaos lore

It's not a new game or anything, it's more just to give a more solid split from the classic series
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>>183134408
>>mfw I realized Chaos Angel was supposed to be Sky Sanctuary during a huge storm
is this real
I know literally nothing about the Advance/Battle stories/lores
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>>183134408
>it's supposed to be Sky Sanctuary during a huge storm
No, Lizuka retconned Angel Island into just being a bunch of ruins + the Emerald Altar + Ice Cap. Chaos Angel is just supposed to be similar ruins to Lost World.
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>>183134293
Eggman is the one who built all these damn boost pads.
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>>183090891
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>>183134604
never happened, and if it did it doesn't matter because you can't retcon if there's no canon
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>>183134569
All three Advance Games revisit Angel Island in some fashion, yeah. Battle does too.

http://sonic.wikia.com/wiki/Chaos_Angel

You even go to the Master Emerald during the final boss fight.

>>183134604
I am refusing to accept that, Iizuka doesn't know what the fuck he is talking about. And I suspect you are lying because I doubt Iizuka would ever put much thought into the Advance games to mention them
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>>183134841
>no canon
Nice meme
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>>183135035
>You even go to the Master Emerald during the final boss fight.
I literally never thought about it. This is amazing, two of my favourite levels are actually the same place
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>>183134604
Are you talking about Adventure?
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>>183134408
Another example of this is Sky Babylon + Pirate Island from Blaze's world.

http://sonic.wikia.com/wiki/Sky_Babylon

My mind was blown when I realized that the Island that fell from the sky was supposed to be Angel Island of Blaze's world, and Sky Babylon was Sky Sanctuary.

There also seemed to be some minor Riders lore sprinkled in, with a bird-like statue being used to access Sky Babylon. (Self explanatory if you know Riders)

Basically, Dimps seemed to really like playing around in the lore with their handhelds.
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>>183130030
I'm well, thanks for asking. I should be going to sleep, but I can't feel the will to do it.

> Are you treating yourself well?
If there's one thing that I should treat myself is that I need to force myself to finally read Archie Sonic, at least for the sake of knowing more about my favorite exclusive character, even if I think the Mega Drive series look more interesting than the Archie universe. I need to stop being a retarded slow faggot.
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http://sonic.wikia.com/wiki/Angel_Island

>In Sonic Advance, Angel Island is simply a zone in itself. It is filled with ancient ruins and some sand, and the boss is a robotic Knuckles, which ironically pokes fun at Knuckles. Its overall appearance highly resembles the Sky Sanctuary Zone.
Sonic Advance 2

>In Sonic Advance 2, the floating Angel Island is seen on the stage select map. Upon selecting the island, the player enters the Sky Canyon stage, which is seemingly set on a cloudy, canyon-filled mountain. When you first finish the level in story mode as Sonic, the boss is Knuckles himself, who has been tricked by Eggman.

>In Sonic Advance 3, Eggman uses Chaos Control to split the world in seven pieces. The seventh piece is Chaos Angel, a large amount of floating ruins set in a semi-apocalyptic theme. The ruins are assumed to be part of Angel Island, as the boss of Chaos Angel is fought right at what is now called Altar Emerald. In the background of the final boss fight in Altar Emerald, there is an altar holding the Master Emerald, indicating that the fight takes place at Angel Island.

>In Sonic Battle, Knuckles lives on a mountain known as "Holy Summit", an area that resembles the Sonic Adventure Adventure Field. Some ruins and an altar is nearby, and Chaos can be fought in the crater


Blaze's World:

http://sonic.wikia.com/wiki/Pirates'_Island

>According to legend, Pirates' Island was once a continent floating in the sky which was inhabited by a long-lost civilization. One day, however, it fell from the sky and crashed into the ocean, becoming an island.

http://sonic.wikia.com/wiki/Sky_Babylon

>Sky Babylon is a temple-like city ruin on a continent floating within a clouded green sky, high above Blaze's planet.

Angel Island was a very popular location in the 00's spin-offs.
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>>183135610
>That run cycle
I really like it. It's like a mix of Adventure and Adventure 2
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>>183136067
Does Battle connect with Advance 2/3? I want to play the GBA games now.
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>>183136835
It takes place after Advance 2, since Cream is there and knows Sonic and the gang. And in Advance 3, Eggman uses data he got from Emerl to build Gemerl, the black and yellow robot you see on Eggman's machines.
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>>183136978
Thanks
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Is Amy's tummy a pink or peach color? Which one would you prefer?
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>>183136835
Briefly yes. It's set between 2 and 3.

Battle has a Gizoid (Ancient alien robot thing) that was developed by Gerald Robotnik alongside Shadow, named Emerl. Emerl befriends the cast, and bonds a lot with Cream. Spoilers: Emerl starts to turn evil as it was initially programmed, and sacrifices itself, making Cream cry.

Then in Advance 3, Eggman creates Gemerl, an improved Gizoid. Spoilers: You have to fight and destroy Gemerl, but the true ending of 3 apparently ends with Gemerl being turned good and chilling out with Cream.

I highly recommend all four of the games. They have some of the most vibrant and cool locations of any Sonic game, and the story in Battle is probably the most engaging story of the entire franchise. (I know, thats not saying much)

Definitely play Battle between 2 and 3.
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>>183137192
Pink, though peach makes for good porn.
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>>183137192
Pink is canon. Pink works best with clothes. Peach works best nude.
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>>183134484
>Sonic is the embodiment of chaos
Doesn't Eggman literally come to this conclusion in the comics though? I mean sure it's preboot and it's the comic canon, but it's certainly not a "headcanon"
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>>183137931
It's the delusional ravings of a mentally broken mad scientist and should not be taken as fact in any branch of the franchise, let alone the games.
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>>183134293
Sonic has a mom, dad and little sister living peaceful, happy, normal lives on Christmas Island. Sonic visits them from time to time, and his bedroom there is where he keeps most of his mementos. They just never show up or are mentioned because they're never plot relevant. For some reason I think this accentuates Sonic's character even further. He's just a relatively normal everyday dude who loves adventure and runs fast. He adventures because he wants to, not because of some dumb backstory like he's an orphan or some shit.
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>>183137931
>>183134484
oh my god not AGAIN
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>>183138207
>Christmas Island
That's cute. Fund it.
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>>183138207
>little sister
I see what you did there.
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>>183138207
How many references did you stuff into that post?
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>>183131017
I think this is one of the better special stages. Just imagine if S3&K had Sonic Advance 2's special stages, now I would never do a 100% replay ever again.
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>>183138361
Christmas Island is a location mentioned in the Sonic 1 manual as Sonic's birth place.
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>>183138573
They had to be better than the Sonic 1 and 2 Special Stages otherwise getting the Super Emeralds would've been a total chore
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>>183138691
I forgot about that. So does that mean that when Sonic was in Christmas NiGHTS he was home?
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>>183139179
No, that was Nightopia.
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>>183100390
Even with the shitty photographic backgrounds this is better than his new shit
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>>183100390
Everytime I see this I have to say this is someones joke, someone taking the piss out of Penders.

But then I remember this shit is not a joke. It's 100% serious.
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>>183138207
Get back to work(?) Ian.
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>>183139179
Christmas Island is an existing location in India

>designated speeding areas
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>>183134293
In the future everyone communicates via telepathy. As a result no one really learns how to read and those that do never really go beyond a basic level. Whenever Silver goes back in time to hang out with Sonic he has to have other people read things like letters and signs to him. When people communicate with telepathy, they can't really lie about their intentions so when Silver actually speaks to people, he gets tricked a lot because he is so gullible.
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Tails is the best character in the entire series, and also has the best character design. I don't like his Unleashed/Colours/Generations appearance as much as the previous ones though, if we don't count the classic one in Generations. I'm not sure what's wrong with it though.
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>>183140770
He's a young boy, but his design is a lot more stretched nowadays to match modern Sonic and the gang

I get that he should probably be about 12 with the modern art style rather than 8 years old
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>>183140770
i dont like how fat modern tails looks

the way his gut bulges over his legs

sonic slimmed down when they modernized him, but tails didn't
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>>183141205
it's baby fat
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>>183140507
That sounds pretty cool. Why can't he just read their minds?

>>183140903
Oh, you're right! He's too tall. I'm okay with him being older, but it doesn't really need to be like that. Also, I think there might be more to it, because if I look at him alone I still like the old ones better.
I wish they would focus on him more, it was really cool when they did it in the past.

>>183141205
Classic and Adventure-era Tails look amazing.
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>>183141205
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>>183134293
After the Chaos Emeralds became Super Emeralds and then retained their form, but not their size when they turned back to normal. That's why they originally looked like uncut gems and now they don't.

Either that, or Lost World was a dream, explaining how NiGHTS was able to be there. I just want it the Deadly Shit to be erased.
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>>183141421
I just knew it.
post more :^)
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>>183141295
Love Classic Sonic's design, but I don't find Modern Sonic that offensive. It feels right seeing him kinda lanky and slim, ready to go fast

Tails on the other hand is his young friend, he works best when he's smaller than Sonic and although he's always gonna be smaller than Sonic you feel like he should be smaller than he really is. I think Modern Tails is about the same size as Classic Sonic in Generations and that's kinda fucked up
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>>183141421
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>>183141942
This must stop before you-know-what gets posted
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>>183142016
We don't want that.
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>>183141942
>>183141421
How would Vanilla allow this?
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>>183142101
She hasn't been in a game since Rush to scold Cream
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>>183141421
>>183141942
CEASE THIS AT ONCE, YOU FILTHY SACK OF FLESH.
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>>183088908
why isnt this sick shit on /d ?
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>>183142479
>Generals
>/d/
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Does Arin Hanson's opinions on Sonic affect anything at all?

What do you think? I get pretty fucking autistically upset about this shit. I think he influences others to not give Sonic a chance even if they've never played a Sonic game before.
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>>183142621
Probably his drones and that's about it. If they don't play because of him then whatever I guess.
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>>183142719
The quadruple-decked chin lord does have a lot of drones, though. A pretty significant amount in the general gaming community.
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>>183142621
He influences autist kids and manchildren into not playing Sonic, but anybody with a hint of self awareness doesn't even watch him to begin with

Unfortunately, we live in an age that truly lacks that self awareness
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>>183142842
And it's not like the Sonic community doesn't have a lot of people either. From 2015 - now, I've heard of multiple people getting or getting back into the franchise, some even posting in this general.
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>>183142621
literally who
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>>183142621
I'm only autistically upset about how Arin's shit affects Dan's opinions of the series. It physically hurts me to hear Dan say the things that he does about Sonic games simply because Arin never lets him play one himself, plus he cherry-picks the worst of the bunch because he thinks it'll be more entertaining to watch. My question is: is Dan in on the joke? I don't think he is. I think he legitimately believes that all Sonic games are bad because of what Arin has shown him.
>Why do you care so much about what Dan thinks?
Because Dan is a newcomer to the franchise who is having his opinions tainted by Arin's bullshit. What if he's not the only one?
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>>183143494

they're playing the goddamn wii version of unleashed right now too.
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>>183143443
Egoraptor

>>183143494
He tried to do the same shit to Jon.
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>>183143693
literally who
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>>183143754
A former artist that pretends his let's plays aren't let's plays and that he's not a sell out

Let's Destroy Metal Gear was always better than Metal Gear Awesome
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>>183143754
You must be 18 years old to post here.
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>>183121825
Homing Attack is jarringly fast. Maybe slow it down? Add some forward momentum after landing a homing attack on an enemy?
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>>183143494
>Getting upset over Dan
Don't be. If him or any of Arin's other fanboys are too senseless to try a game out & not have their opinions spoonfed to them, they're goddamn stupid & not worth losing sleep over. The Sonic series won't die because of hacks like the Game Grumps or the children who like them, don't worry.
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>>183143570
That's what I'm talking about. Does Dan understand that Arin intentionally picked the shitty one because he thought it'd be funnier? I really hope he does. If Dan just understood that Arin shits on Sonic out of bias and not because they're as bad as they make them seem then perhaps they could actually have some conversation about the game instead of just shitting on it.
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>>183143972
That way after landing one while going kinda fast, you don't come to a dead stop. You can keep your flow going after a string.
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>>183141421
this is cute in a non-fetishy way
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>>183143898
Yeah because knowing who some random faggot is means you're 18
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>>183143898
You've got that backwards m8. Little kids are the only ones who care about e-celeb bullshit.
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my mistake
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>>183145231
>>183145097
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>>183091523
Well /sthg/, what will it be?
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rubyeclypse is such a cool name.
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>>183146447
what does that mean
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>>183141295
>Why can't he just read their minds?
I always thought telepathy was sort of like "beaming" messages and images from your mind to another person's. You can't actually see what they're thinking. Just receive any incoming messages they might have for you. But that's just my definition of telepathy. I don't read/watch a lot of science fiction so I might be confusing it for something else
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GIMME RINGS
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>>183143494
well sometimes people come to this general and bother us but it's never that bad. I know most of you don't go on the sonic subreddit but whenever GG starts a new Sonic there's always a couple people that start shitposting and harassing people there. They usually get get banned quickly so it's not too bad.

Aaron keeps reaching out to Game Grumps for whatever reason whenever they do Sonic on their channel. This tends to make a lot of Sonic fans angry which makes the community in general a lot more negative. So people start doomsaying. "Game Grumps will voice the villain in the new game because Barry was on Aaaron's weekly Sonic stream" "Game Grumps will have a cameo, look at all the gifts Aaron keeps sending Arin" "Game Grumps will shit on Mania and Forces and tell their 4 million subscribers not to buy the games" "Game Grumps will rape my sister" I wish people would stop being so negative, but I can't blame them for being worried.
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>>183149098
was supposed to respond to >>183142621
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>>183113008
Interesting, I don't suppose there are many people who think Rush Adventure is the best. I certainly had fun playing it, and the vehicles were all implemented pretty well. Also has some of my favourite Sonic boss music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ru1tKQdcHeA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpU7O5u9YWg
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>>183149494
>same color scheme
>obnoxious personality
>annoys the rest of the main characters constantly
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>>183147939
I don't know, but I like your headcanon it's nice
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http://forums.sonicretro.org/index.php?showtopic=31975
>Sonic Unleashed came up with the idea of introducing 2D sections in the 3D game. The idea was praised and loved by almost every fan who lived during the 90s and grew up playing Sonic games. It was a shout-out to the classic era, as we had all wanted for quite a while.
Were people really this retarded at the time? No wonder SEGA thought Sonic 4 would have been enjoyed.
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>>183150056
If Sonic 4 at the very least had Hedgehog Engine physics it might not be so revolting to play.
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>>183150392
You mean the boost physics that make Sonic impossible to control during platforming sections? lmao ok
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xth for Tikal
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>>183150451
It may be like playing on an ice rink, but it is more enjoyable than the disgrace they used in Sonic 4.
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mfw people complain about boost and classic 2d platforming when we've got an upcoming game that is exactly that.
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I knew Buddy looked familiar.
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>>183129924
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>>183151742
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Quick Amy.
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>>183152825
Cute! What's she looking at, /sthg/?
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>>183153038
Sonic's flat ass.
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>>183149494
Probably. Sega did design her and Marine has been cast aside, not even used in games like the olympics or runners.
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>>183150483
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>>183150056
People will cling to anything that appeals tot their nostalgia even if it's shallow, not realizing it til later on that it was shit.
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>>183142621
I know a friend who bash Sonic and praise Mario while playing neither, and who go full cognitive dissonance when exposed to Colors or Generations gameplay.
It's even worse than simple droning or watching GG, it might be related to the fad of "I have taste by joining into what the lastest meme called bad".

Vinny is a piece of shit who's not even able to play any game correctly and goes on feeding the Sonicsux shitposting but no one ever mentions it here.
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>Went on SEGA Forums
>All Korean spambots & Classicfag/Modernfag shitflinging
It's insane how despite all the shitposting, /sthg/ still manages to be better than that shithole.

>>183154465
Who's Vinny?
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>>183154465
>Vinny
You should have seen Joel's LP of Shadow the Hedgehog then, it was truly terrible to watch. He was so fucking bad at the game that he couldn't even complete Westopolis, his brain must have been seriously fried. He constantly committed suicide by jumping off the stage, for fuck's sake.
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>>183154707
Some big Vinesauce let's player with a big hard-on on Mario. Just write his name on Youtube and skim through any video you like, you'll get an idea.

>>183154782
I saw that, it was painful to watch, especially the shitty memeing between every death. But at least he had the honesty to say that maybe the game was good and he was just shit at it. Also Adventure 1 stream
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>>183152825
I want to pinch her chubby cheeks
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>>183154782
How come so many streamers and let's players can't actually play video games right
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>>183155481
Same reason so many people think Crash Bandicoot is the Dark Souls of the PS4: People can't play video games for shit nowadays.

If these people played Sky Canyon from Advance 2, they'd lose their minds
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>>183154782
Joel's Sonic Adventure video was a little better, though still kinda bad playing the game.
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the only good youtube videos are made by cybershell desu.
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You think the creative staff know what the comic news is?
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>>183154465
Uh, that's because Vinny never actually went on the "Sonic was never good train." He only played the "ironic" games like Sonic Dreams Collection, and that's mostly because his fans slip them in shitty game compilations. Surprise, he's gone on record saying he doesn't have a strong opinion about Sonic since as a Nintendon't he didn't even get to play any Sonic games as a kid.

Are you thinking of Joel perhaps?
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>>183155790
Nah, I was thinking about this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsjgwB98oCI
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>>183155790
Joel did a stream on Shadow and riffed on the cartoons a bit. Obviously not the best game to show off, but he did recently do a Sonic Adventure DX stream and actually ended up liking what he played.
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>>183155697
Thanks bud
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>>183155712
Maybe Ian?

https://twitter.com/IanFlynnBKC/status/887441015203823617
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>>183155790
>>183155952
Vinny said that he is actually going to play a real Sonic game soon. I wonder how that'll go.
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>>183155952
A two minute long video joking around with his fans that keep pestering him about Sonic, that's your basis as to why he's on the same level as Arin?

I'm talking about this:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLlc94szfcNDHmDtKV9Ec--LU4lH1s2RxM
Any of these look like official Sonic games?
His stance on Sonic is on the Utopia one by the way.

>>183155965
Yeah it's good to know he enjoyed it.
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>>183155697
>>183157130
jesus no need to reply to yourself
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>>183157130
I had a feeling you could be here
I only found your videos a few days ago and they're pretty cool
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>>183154279
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>>183155697
>>183157130
>>183157431
>>183157573
me, all me
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>>183157430
No, just the general stance of playing shitty joke games, ignoring the main ones, and your occasional trolling. He might not be shitting on Sonic on purpose (I guess it'd stir some tension with the other streamers) but being >>183154465 I can say the damage is real.
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/co/ told me to come here

How do I get into Sonic?

Like, to the extent that I'll understand the in-jokes and references in Sonic Boom? I only watched SatAM and Sonic Underground when I was a kid and play one or two vidya.
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>>183158259
If you wanna understand the characteristics of the characters, I'd recommend Adventure 1, SA2, Heroes & Unleashed. I think these games did some of the better jobs showcasing Sonic & the others personalities.
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>>183158259
Don't. For your own sake do not try and get into this series.
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>>183158259
If you want to get into the classics, play Sonic 1 first. If you prefer speed, then go to 2. If you prefer platforming, follow with CD. In both cases, follow with 3&K (not 3, not Knuckles).

If you want an American interpretation (and cartoon cameos), you want some 90s radness and you like the Pinball mechanics, jump on Sonic Spinball.

If you just care about the 3D games, start with Adventure DX I guess.
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>>183121532
Who designed the original Sonic levels anyway?

Did they ever do interviews or write anything about it?
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>>183158641
yasuhara i think
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>>183158641
Hirokazu Yasuhara. He also directed 3&K and helped out with 3D Blast and R.
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>>183158641
Hirokazu Yasuhara apparently. The dude works at Nintendo now.
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>>183158259
Sonic 2 is the best introduction to Sonic.
Emerald Hill and Chemical Plant are masterpieces of level design. You will get, maybe upwards of 50% of the entire Sonic condition after completing those two zones.

Emerald Hill is severely underrated next to Green Hill and it bothers me. There is no better first Sonic level.

For a 3D Sonic, I would say either play Colors, or failing that Sonic Adventure 1 or 2 for what you are trying to understand/get at. My bias would be for Sonic Adventure 1.
If you want true gaming Kino, play Sonic 3 and Knuckles.
For /co/ Sonic, read Fleetway's "Sonic the Comic".
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>>183158259
Does Boom really do any deep in-jokes? I mean, they joke about the fanbase and stuff like "x was never good/never did well in 3D" but I don't really remember any big jokes you'd miss from not playing the games.
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>>183159107
Well, I personally find some of the jokes in Boom funnier, when thinking about how the characters act in the game universe in comparison. Besides, it's helping someone get into Sonic.
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According to Google Translate the tweet says: "From a certain scene." The news this week may be a look at a cutscene.
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>>183159107
They do name drop Angel Island and Sky Sanctuary, but that's about as deep as it goes. It looks to largely remain more self contained.

That's fine. I think it's better they riff on the fans. Some of the stuff the fanbase does is pretty ridiculous.
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>>183159107
Yes. A joke in the first episode of S2 would only appear random to someone who didn't play Sonic 2. But then again, there's not a lot of those jokes.
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>>183159483
Eggman?
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>>183159483
BAAAAAAALD! BALD, BALD!
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>>183159575
Looks like it. We may finally see some ruler of the world Eggman this week. Hopefully, at least.
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>>183159523
what's that joke?
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>>183158259
play sonic 1, sonic 2 and sonic cd. you don't have to immediately complete them or play them in order or anything. you can jump from one another, there's no problem in that. and play sonic 3 complete too
then play sonic adventure, then the advance games. try to play sonic adventure 2 and sonic heroes to see if you like them. then just jump forward to sonic colours for the wii and probably sonic mania which will have come out by the time you get there. the other games don't deserve your attention, they are garbage.
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>>183115884
plebian

>>183126719
philistine
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>>183158259
In regards to games to play, I'd recommend
>Sonic 1
>Sonic 2
>Sonic 3 & Knuckles
>Sonic Adventure 1
>Try out Sonic Adventure 2 & Heroes to see if you'd like them
>Sonic Unleashed
>Sonic Colors
>Sonic Generations
These, along with the Sonic Advance trilogy & Rush are what I'd suggest.
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>>183159107
Sonic and Tails' implied homosexual relationship is played on in the first episode.
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>>183134293
Eggman has red pupils and black sclera
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>>183138207
If Sonic has a mom, dad & sister, would his friends know? If not, how would they react if they found out?
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bumb
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YOU'RE TOO SLOW
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>>183161220
no, u.
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>>183161327
no u tbqh
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>>183161220
CUM ON STEP IT UP
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Sonic a slow
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Sure is slow in here.
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I bet a hedgehog someone's going to make an early thread AGAIN
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>>183162134
Mah boi, this peace is what true speedsters strive for.
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>>183162216
You just might be right.
>>183162242
>>183162242
>>183162242
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>>183162267
>Making a thread this early when we're dead
Now they're both going to archive silly
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>>183162656
Not if i blast through with Sonic speed!
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>>183162780
Does the Speedforce mean Sonic actually exist?
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>>183163247
I wish Sonic existed :(
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>>183163770
Me too, if only hedgehogs were real.
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>>183158993
Emerald Hill is super fucking flat compared to Green Hill Zone, there's like maybe only two routes and almost no gimmicks outside the corkscrew, which did blow my mind as a kid

Plus Green Hill's visuals are better. Not a fan of the bright orange they picked for Emerald Hill's mountain design
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>>183157628
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>>183158641
i probably played sonic 2 over 100 times as a kid but i've never taken the top route that bypasses the rising water part. i feel like a dumbass
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>>183137931
robotnik is an unreliable narrator you daft git
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>>183155681
That's a humanization I can get behind
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