Ace Combat General #323 - /aceg/

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First for cyborg pilots.

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second for belka.

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3rd for slav shit best shit

Nth for warcrimes

https://youtu.be/rhC9KVo7S0c

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Fifth for Naiad

>le oseans are the baddies

Remember Stonehenge faggots?

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7th for best bomber

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>>183033513
>Stonehenge
>a military superweapon
>targets military aircraft
As opposed to
>mass squadron of B-52s
>targets civilian houses and infrastructure
It's time for Osea to feel the blaze of napalm. No amount of singing over the radio can cover up their war crimes this time.

>>183033484
>the one frame of buddy face at the jousting bit
Kek/10

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>>183033916
>totally forgets about the takeover
>totally forgets about the entire fucking war

>>183034178
>Osea was controlled by Belka during the Belkan War
Whose propaganda even is this?

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>ywn be part of the belkan military and destroy osean ground forces
feels bad man

>>183034673
Metal Gear Belka when?

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>>183034801
>ywn defend the capitol of belka while the communist oseans attempt to take it

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>>183034673
>>183035428
>Tiger

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Thrust vectoring rules the skies!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dj8OJs6E3JM

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It's planefu o'clock; post up.

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>>183040654
Pretty good taste.

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>>183040615

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>>183040615
jesus christ it looked like previous thread devolved into an all out war after i crashed out last night

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/aceg/ draw backlog:
>Chimera in Richtofen squadron Camo Norm 81
>Su-30SM in Scarface 1 livery
I might get to them today. Anyone got a request? While skteching a third airplane fits my canvas, even if I deliver them individually.
It can be an original design (Flanker with cranked arrow wing being the latest) or an existing aircraft with a specific livery.

yurobump

anyone know any good front ends i could use with mednafen to set everything up?

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Imagine a mission in pic related during AC7. After 20 or so missions in cutting-edge fighters soaring through the skies, you get roped into an emergency extraction mission. You go in low, rock-throwing low, landing on a deserted stretch of highway to pick up a HVT and return them to your lines.

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>>183043527
Could you do Rot livery on a Wyvern?

>>183043527

If you're up for something different, how about a modernized F-105 Thunderchief? Hueg plane is hueg. You could go crazy on the livery.

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>>183044045
>being forced to choose a plane
Dropped faster than a JDAM on a sandnigger.

>>183044045
>20 missions
Too many desu
>having to use a certain plane
please don't
>you don't dogfight
why though?

>>183044150
That would be neat, but maybe I'll go with the other one.

>>183044290
What sort of modernization do you have in mind? Keeping the overall configuration, but changing the wing shape to something closer to the F-15 or the F-22 comes to mind.
Also, streamlining the fuselage and making the cockpit "bubble out" could work.
Or I could do a heavier redesign, such as giving it a second engine. Do you have particular modern fighter you'd like me to draw from?

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>>183044552
>you don't dogfight
>why though?
Not all missions need to be B7R. A rescue mission where you have to land and pick up some buddy that parachuted like in RoF or Wings of Prey could be fun as a one off. If it's done well.

Depending on where you land it it wouldn't even need to force you into a certain plane. Field landings would be a bit of a stretch for most jets but landing on a highway while dodging overpasses and having no real room left and right would work as a nice challenge though.

The photo missions in Sky Crawlers were also kinda comfy, but they would need some more depth for a proper AC game

>>183044737

The Thud was massive enough to have an internal bomb bay. I envision this being turned into a rotary launcher for standoff work-- XLAAs or LASMs. Beyond that I'd like to retain the overall wing shape, just modernized some. All-glass cockpit would be easy to implement. I trust to your best judgement.

>>183045687
Do I use 5th gen like "stealth shapes"? An internal missile bay sort of redirects there in my mind.

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>>183045687
The bay is madness. And you could slap even more bombs to the bay doors. Impressive.
Also, the engine nozzle could be adapted into an X-31 style TVC.

>>183045843

Sounds like a plan, though I don't know how stealthy an aircraft of this size will end up being. Integrating the "M-wing" design may be a challenge.

>>183046069

I like the thrust vector nozzle, it would look correct. For the bay, since we"ll never get to use a nuke in Strangereal, that capability could be replaced with a single-shot, fuckoff huge burst-missile technology bomb.

>>183047147
Either a Nimbus missile or a "belt-fed" missile launcher. Think missile rails rotating and catching missiles as they go down the magazine.

Choose one of the following for AC7's ending
> You are forced to only fly specific plane for the final mission and ultimately come out victorious safe and sound. That means you'll probably never gonna use your favorite planefu to end the war.
>You get to choose whatever jets you like for the final mission but in the end the player character dies sacrificing himself to ensure victory

>>183047874
Second. Forcing you to use a certain aircraft in any significant mission is a dealbreaker and a dick move.

>>183047874
Uh second of course, how are these fair options?

>>183047874
The player character dying doesn't matter because they never reappear anyway, I'd much rather fly my planefu.

Is Operation Katina canon?

>>183052539
yes

what's the best route in AC3?

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>>183052594
Neucom.

>>183052594
i chose General Resource for the sole reason that i wanted to get my hands on the Eagle Plus
i do regret it, the plane is fucking amazing

>>183052803
do not regret it*

what the hell happened to erich in the neucom route of AC3? He's one of the people refusing to shoot down the plane fiona is in but then when you and fiona join neucom he just disappears

>>183052594
Neucom

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>10

>>183055281
It's been a while since this last occurred.

>>183055437
page 9 happens at least once or twice a thread but this is a lot earlier than usual

>>183052970
Erich seems to disappear in every route except UPEO.

>>183055473
I'm aware that we spend a lot of time down there, but there haven't been a lot of
>page number
bumps lately.

>>183055537
He probably fucks off because with everyone gone he has no reason to stay anymore.

>>183047147
>>183046069
The F-105 is probably one of my favorite single engine planes.

Fun Fact: In Vietnam, the F-105 had more gun kills than the F-4 and F-8 combined.

>>183055706
>a fighter bomber has more gun kills than two dedicated gunfighters
I haven't begun working on it yet, what sort of tweaks would you give it to modernize it?

How do I get good at these games, I've been playing the PSP one and most of the missions have been me flying in circles until I got my target on lock on then I win, I feel like there's something I'm missing

>>183055834
You should listen to the guy who requested it instead of me. I don't want to step on any toes.

how exactly do I play the alternate routes in AC3?
I beat the neucom route and saved my game after in prompted me to but when I went back to the main menu and tried to reload the save it was just playing sole survivor over again. Do you have to do each route on a separate file?

>>183056138
I just wanted to gather some ideas, since i'm not very familiar with the aircraft, but you're right.

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>>183056247
I'd recommend saving at each decision point so you can go back to it. Having the mission flowchart can help plan when and how many files to save.

>>183056090
Turnfighting works in most AC games. If that doesnt extend away from the enemy and do head ons. Going off the PSP, Alect is a case where you are probably better off jousting with them than turning, as are the Fenrirs.

It's not exactly how dogfighting should go but it works with how AC plays. Then again I only played AC1 and 2 recently which dont have the padlock view or a look around option at all, which makes anything but those two tactics really annoying and difficult to use

>>183056359
Still not sure if there are enough save spots for all decisions and all endings.

>>183056463
What do you mean by "jousting?

>>183056653
flying at each other head on

>>183056540
There are 5 endings, but 6 save slots.

>>183056653
arrowhead attacks, where the two planes charge directly at each other hoping to score a hit and dodge the opponents attack

>>183056680
How do I do that though? They always seem to stay out of my field of view no matter what I do. By the way, is there any special dialogue for defeating the Alects without destroying the generator?

>>183056793
the easiest way in most AC games is to fly really far away so you have time to turn around and fly straight at them

>>183056867
They just follow me if I do that, thanks for the help though, I'll try again later

>>183057025
usually it works best if theyre chased off by an ai or you scare em away so they have to loop back around
once theyre at least 5000 feet away, then you got your chance to fly away and begin preparations for the joust

>>183055834
Give it an F-117 style canopy.

>>183056748
Yeah but also 4 decision points. So you can't really have it all.

>>183057154
That would just clash with the rest of the airframe.

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>>183057154
Speaking of F117 cockpits. I already forgot what this was from. Can somebuddy help out?

I love even though the player characters in these games are never seen or heard, they're like the most important players in their wars, and the stories of the games themselves are about normal people having to deal with the war

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Obligatory morning Flanker post

>>183057580
Uru in Blue or Royal Air Force, iirc.

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>>183059642
>wrong pic

>10

>>183060126
all that stability and offense, christ almighty turn it down a notch or it'll be op

>>183062879
Stability is criminally underrated. It makes planes so much more comfy to use.

>>183055834
>The F4 and dedicated gun fighter
The first Phantom with a gun was the E variant, used only by the airforce, who focused more on bombing than dogfights.

Yo Brady, remember all those images you said you were going to collect for me? Can you post the F-16A Block 15 and the A-10A?

someone post thunder's finger

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>>183064613
Sure thing m80.
Here's the F-16A.

>>183064613
i should buy a new plane every week so you have to do this

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>>183065119
And the A-10.
Doing your job and getting some planes statted, huh?

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>>183062879
YF-22 has even crazier stats.

>>183065180
Or I can follow the suggestion of the person who does do these and force the players to make them.

>>183066596
i doubt i'll afford weapons and upkeep for the next few session anyway, so i think i'll be keeping away from planes for as long as possible

>>183043527

I'd happily die for an F-2A or F16C with canards a la the SU37.

Any livery is fine, but the JASDF blue would be the patrician choice.

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General Dynamics, why do you tempt me so with planes you would have never built?

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>>183067974
As far as canard'd F-16 go, there's the F-16AFTI, though it's canards are on the air intake.
I'll pick this one up too. JASDF blue is excellent taste.

>>183068718
I've seen the AFTI! Pretty neat, but i still think the sukhoi style canards would be sleeker and sexier. Thanks!

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Which game do you guys think has the best radio chatter? For me, it's 04. Everything from the background chatter to the mission-specific quotes is memorable and feels authentic. I mean, who could forget:
>radio failure!
Or
>who was it that shot me?!
I don't why, but I feel like the other HT games lost that level of authenticity with the radio talk.

>>183069105
I probably won't be able to draw today, for lack of a proper unnocupied desk, but tomorrow it'll be full steam ahead.
Given that I manage my space in such a way that three aircraft fit in a canvas and I've got 4 requests, I guess that opens up two slots. I won't make my backlog go beyond 6 aircraft, though. I'm not insane.

>>183069257
I quite like the chatter in 6, tbqh.

>>183069257
>not 5 purely for Oka Nieba

LA LA LA LISTEN TO MY BEEYOOTIFOOL VOICE

>>183069257
Agreed, it felt a lot more hectic, and it felt a little more authentic than in 5 and 0, IMO.
Also, as great as Eagle Eye is, Sky Eye is based as fuck for calling out vectors like that.

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>>183069583
>there are faggots ITT that doesn't consider Oka Nieba best AWACS

>>183069583
Eagle Eye is still best AWACS
>>183070142
>often relied on Sky Eye calling out vectors when focusing on dog fighting
>taking down Yellow over Farbanti
>second to last, ignoring everything but my chase
>locked down and shot down within 2 seconds of alert
>"Bandit behind you!"
it was useful on occasion but its delay made it unreliable on occasion

>>183070198
Oka is up there but Eagle Eye is best for being a good buddy

>>183070432
>>183070475
Eagle Eye is indeed best.
Has your back til the very end.

>Demon Lord of the Round Table, I pray for your success!
How can other AWACS even compete?

>>183070529
They can't compete because none of them went out for a beer with you, Pixy and PJ.

>>183069257
>>183070529
Damnit ! Confirmed launch of the V2
Or
the "they've all gone mad" from the stage of apocalypse make eagle eye my best AWACS

>>183070529
>Mission accomplished, Cipher!
>Come on, let's go back home.
>Wouldn't want to keep anyone waiting for you.
the feeling i get whenever i hear that line no matter how many times i play Zero always makes me feel all giddy

>>183071184
Gotta go back and tell PJ's girl that she is single again.

You just had to go there didn't you

>>183069580

F105poster here. Just in case we get slid I'm going to summarize the request here.

>Modernized F-105 Thunderchief
>glass cockpit
>modernized, geometric lines whilst keeping core design features such as the intakes
>thrust-vectoring nozzle
>internal bay stays; can be configured for rotary launcher or heavy ordnance

Just as a thought exercise I tried to stat this thing.

Speed: 68
Mobility: 29
Stability: 50
Defense: 75
Air-to-Air: 40
Air-to-ground: 70

Gun: 1050
Missile: 56

LAGM: 12
SAAM: 12
NIMBUS: 2

Opinions are welcome, /aceg/.

>>183070475
Sky Eye is also a good buddy considering he's been through thick and thin with Mobius One. On the final mission the guy was blazing through meteroids while assembling your squadron just before Megalith. Not only that, he sticks with you for Operation Katina about a year after the war was over. That's loyalty.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2uCoUsp_Zg

>>183071660
Just saying that it isn't the best of RTBs. You manage to end the whole mess but besides Eagle you don't really have anyone to go back to.
PJ is dead and for all you know so is Pixy. And on top of that you will probably be the first his gf at base runs into to ask questions.

>>183071767
Might give this a try over the weekend but I suspect Dornier will be quicker

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>>183071767
I was thinking about putting a miniature Talos missile launching system for regular missiles in the bay as the alternate loadout to a Nimbus, SDBM or MPBM.
Also, side bays for internal standard missile storage no matter the loadout and compatibility with underwing missile pods similar to those shown in the AC7 trailers.
Unless I'm going full belkan with this idea.

Just a heads up to the RPG crowd. Mission briefings will be dropping in the next 24hrs or less. (Hopefully much less.)

Be prepared to decide collectively on a course of action.

>>183072784
the Belkan War was never set up to be a conflict that had a happy ending to it like the 2nd Contiental War and the Circum-Pacific War did, so it'd make sense that the end of Cipher's, Pixy's and PJ's stories end just as sad as the Belkan War did

>>183073445
>tfw the belkan war only had a happy ending for those you shot down

>>183073761
the whole theme of Zero with conflict being eternal and that even those who get shot down still carry on the war inside of them really does play to stuff like this
its too much pottery to handle

>>183073136
Or now. If you can make it, head to the IRC.

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>>183072958
Isn't that a naval system?
>itano circus launching system

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Best high-altitudefu coming through

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How would aviation develop in a world without major continents, and how would you make an AC-like game in such a world? Basically, instead of immense landmasses, archipelagos dot the world's oceans.

>>183080186
ground effect vehicles, ground effect vehicles everywhere. more nations would invest in carrier groups. aside from that, I'd assume not much more would change.

>You will never be suave and jaded fighter pilot turned barely sober commercial airline pilot.

Why live?

>>183080009
Found this
http://www.nmusafvirtualtour.com/cockpits/CW_tour/CW-30.html

>>183071767
Replace Nimbus with Napalm and we're good to go

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hmmmmm

>>183083843
>CFA-44
What did Bamco mean by this?

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>>183083843
hmmmmmmmmmmmm
who here /strigon/?

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>>183083984

>>183084107
engage the enemy at will

>>183084107

Your suhkoi curses don't work on me.

>>183084605
every woman on earth is now able to resist you
should of said it

>>183084929
From the wording, I infer that's a femanon .

>>183087603
but anon, girls cant be aces

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>>183084605
>TVC, supermaneverability and superior aerodynamics
>bad

Buddy, I....

>>183087945
Has any variant of the Flanker ever seen air-to-air combat?

>>183087945
>TVC,
only useful for STOL
>supermanuevrability
only useful for airshows, have fun eating an AIM-9X to the grill because you pulled a cobra and killed off all your kinetic energy

>>183088198
Yes, it's had 6 A2A kills.
Ethiopia has more kills in the Flanker than Russia.

>>183088305
Even in the age of missiles, aerial engagements have degenerated into gunfights. Supermaneuverability isn't just for show. Also, AIMs don't do jack if you have trouble getting a lock-on.
And TVC isn't just for STOL or maneuverability. It can also make unstable aircraft easier to control.

>>183088608
>Even in the age of missiles, aerial engagements have degenerated into gunfights
All air to air combat kills since the 90's have been with missiles.

>>183088547
>Ethiopia
>can afford high-end fighter jets and the means to operate them
>but not food
Huh.

>>183089004
It confuses the hell out of me too.

>>183088547
and how many Flankers have been shot down?
wouldnt be surprised if it wasnt as bad as the MiG as theyre alright planes

>>183089437
None in A2A combat, 2 have been lost to ground fire.

>>183089487
nice, good to see at least some russian aircraft are actually good

>>183089487
Mind you, all Flanker kills have been against MiG-29s, a plane designed to be inferior in almost every way to the Flanker.

>>183089592
As much as I shitpost in favor of the Flanker, it's seen virtually no combat compared to US planes.

>>183089683
Haven't they been fighting in Ukraine? There's still a war going on there, everybody seems to forget.

>>183089792
other than a couple of Ukrainian Su-25's and a MiG-29 gettin shot down by insurgents from the ground i don't think there have been anything else involving fighter jets

>>183090106
Let's not forget the Triple 7, either.

>>183090384
thats what happens when ivan gets a bit too drunk and plays with SAMs

I seem to have come across a problem when playing AC6, I think after I complete mission 10, after the guy at the results screen finishes talking, the game just hangs at the results screen, and no matter button I press, nothing happens except for the confirmation sound, I know it's not my Xbox since other games work fine for it

>>183091965
Maybe it's a problem with the disc?
I remember that I couldn't replay some levels of the campaign of Halo 3, the game would just hang in there. But after I bought a new copy I didn't have that problem anymore.
Your best bet is to find a friend that has a 360, bring your memory and game and see if it works or not on his Xbox.

>Found my psp during my recent move
>replayed some skies of deception .

This game was pretty good y'all. Glepnir is pretty rad.

>>183094551
N A I A D
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A
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>>183094551
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lil-W54nl5Y

>>183094580
DIS IS DE NAIAD

>>183094551
Gleipnir is my favourite fortress tbqh.

Spiridus is also pretty cool speaking of PSP stuff.

>>183094551
X has the comfiest song in all of AC: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xKEv5EE0kyQ

Which songs would you like to see remixed in AC7? I'd like White Bird Part II to make a comeback. It was always my favorite track in 5:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkCMVsGy8Kk

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>>183033246
So how much do you want the Navy's new laser to be developed into Excalibur?

>>183098851
Well then that means that some other country has a Cipher who can destroy it.

>>183098561
Soeaking of which... hell, how is Zero a remix of Unsung War? I don't really see any similarities in tune or notes.

>>183100257
Lyrics

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>>183100257
It's because of the lyrics. The voices in Zero sing the same lines as the Unsung War about Razgriz, further strengthening the theory that Cipher symbolized the first coming of Razgriz.

>want to join the Discord server
>admin is known for autistic shitflinging and doxxing everyone who joins

What do I do boys.

>>183100257
The choir sings the same lyrics and notes, but with a a more disjointed flamenco flair to it in Zero. Whereas the Unsung War goes:
>cum historia
>mutat valde razgriz
and so on, Zero goes:
>cum histo-
>ria
>mutat val-
>de razgriz
and so on.

>>183101105
join it and don't ever speak
only respond when spoken to
but at that point why bother joining in the first place?

>>183101105
Don't.

Who is the admin of that server that doxxes people?

>>183099157
Maybe The Gambia can do it. IIRC they had 1 broken old flanker against the whole senegalese airforce. Victory for Gambia.

>>183101105
Join and see what happens?

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>>183101105
>joining a discord for a steam group that broke off from the actual general.
never join public groups that claim to be from a general, they only attract the worst autists.

>>183102024
African wars are so fucking ridiculous, man.

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>>183101105

>>183102418
You've seen them and talked to them right then? You must know, tell us!

>>183102024
>tfw shitty african countries have flankers when your country has no jets at all
brb moving to Africa

>>183102572
>tfw your country spends millions on jets that don't work
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4704900/150m-farce-new-fighter-jets-WON-T-work-cuts.html
thanks britain
now I'll never see F-35's flying overhead

>>183101105
Why not just make a new Discord server then?

>general tripfag plebbit autists get mad cause they're not welcome in the discord group for clubbing and generally being faggots
>M-muh sekrit club

>>183101105
Everything said on the general is truth right?

>discord

>>183103102
What tripfag? Who's from plebbit? Literally what the fuck are you talking about?

>>183103263
Duck360 detected

>>183103374
What tripfag in the thread just now was complaining about that?

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>>183102496
>>183102572
Are you Belgium?

>>183101105
Uhh no one is stopping you but yourself to join le sekrit club, join us! All of you should instead of making a fragmented community even more broken.

What the blin just happened

>>183103130
He's actually not wrong if he's talking about the /aceg/ server on Discord by Precisionista. That guy keeps a document for each and every person. Everything you say , he'll save it.

the F-2A is my planefu
But the F14 is my mistress.

Sulejmani did nothing wrong.

He's good looking too.

>>183103903
Discord automatically logs everything anyways though?

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>>183104029
Anthony Palmer did nothing wrong either.

>ywn have an ace of the Round Table sell you insurance
Feels bad.

>>183104096
He meant if you said something like you've been on a trip to Greece, he'll write down the date you said that etc.

>>183104116
Maybe he shouldn't have been a global nuclear terrorist if he didn't want to end up unhappy at a desk job.

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>>183104209
>Implying anyone is gonna let pass my stories about how I traveled to greece in order to defeat the pillar men.

Well of course someone is going to take note on that anon. Geez.

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>>183104209
>Greece

>>183104410
Remembering when someone said something is one thing, but straight up recording everything said by everybody is just weird dude.

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>>183104580
>Not recording everything said to later make epig meme images with wacky quotes.
baka famalamborghini

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>>183104209

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>>183104209
>greece

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>>183104580
>discord logs everything
>discord has a search function so you can find whatever you want that was posted, by anyone
>everyone, then, has a log of everything ever said in any discord server

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>Niggas trashing our supreme overlord AND honor agent of the NSA Precisionista

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>>183105053

>>183105243
Prec was always kind of an asshole, don't kid yourself

For the record, The Gambia has/had a single SU-25 Frogfoot.

>>183105243
He's creepy and a moron.

>>183105540
And that's it? No other aircraft?

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I just want to fly with /aceg/ again when 7 comes out.

did /v/ invade this general?

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>>183105662
yes, videogames have invaded the videogame general board

>>183105643
>Chihaya

Not with that shit taste buddy.

>>183105243
The bigger the pride, the harder the fall

>>183105802
this, Makoto or nothin, buddy.

>>183105643
>not the idol formations

I miss those times.

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>>183105780
>/v/
>video games

>>183105780
>implying /v/ is anything but e-celeb drama and politics thinly veiled as video games

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>>183105243

>>183105914
>Mankoto

I'm not into dudes anon. That's two strikes /aceg/.

>>183105940
there's only two good types of threads on /v/ and that's ace combat threads and yakuza threads

>>183106191
I bet you main the old hag.

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>>183106194
Damn right

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what are your hopes for sixth gen fighters?

>>183106282
Of course not. puchis when

>>183106559
The Gleipnir's optical camouflage.

Can girls be aces, /aceg/?

>>183106559
Lasers

Jesus christ in heaven, shitposters are going all out today

>>183106830
>sixth gen fighters supposed to be operational by 2030
get in kid, we're going to the electrosphere

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>>183106789
If they are Nagase sure

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Good times.

>>183106987
>Implying Nagase was good

>/aceg/ is suddenly fond of the steam group and likes AC:I's shitty culture

I think the steam group is back.

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>>183105607
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahya_Jammeh#HIV.2FAIDS_policy
They have a wikipedia article. Jammeh has a few cropdusters and a jet that doesnt work. The Gambia is literally just part of a river the British carved out using the guns of a ship. Its as big as Delaware

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>>183107291
>(You)

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>>183107359
>that Su-47

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>>183107352

>/aceg/ suddenly likes nagase

WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON

>>183107474
The anatomy is awful though.
Just look at that collarbone in relation to her shoulders, like nigga ew
And those feet are way too big

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>>183107474
Glad you like them. Maybe I'll post a dictator/general girl next. Which one do you want?

>>183107352
Aren't they dead? Don't we have a twitch channel or something?

>not liking the fine piece of literature called "Girls can't be aces"

step up son

>>183094551
Did someone say ACX?

https://youtu.be/imLc_E1TBs4

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>>183107352
Hello, good to see other Ace Combat enthusiasts are here. :^)

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>>183107685
Something something Condor Legion very relevant

>>183107685
>>183107796
Post abubu.

>>183083984
That booth is pretty fun, despite being DFM in a can

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PAK-FA? More like PAK-FAILURE

>steam group returns and completely shits all over the thread

I knew it would happen, but not this soon

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>>183107898
i have nedelin. I also have Goring but shes a fat fuck so i hate posting her

Significantly less comfy all of a sudden DESU

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WHEN

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>>183108090
>drama

>>183108090
What can be done to resist without making the thread shittier?

t.warcrimes

Also, how do we grow the AC community? The launch of the game will give us a huge opportunity, should we organize and brigade a stream up to the top of twitch or what?

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>>183108316
>what can be done to resist without making the thread shittier?
Post and discuss planefus. Everybody likes planefus.

>>183108316
This thread literally cannot get shittier, look at this fucking place
It's a fucking mess

>>183108316
But peace will never happen. Borders or no borders.

t.pixy[/spoilers]

>>183107545
What's your explanation for this if he can't provide proofs? This is too targeted for randos

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WHEN

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>>183108653
Look at the other generals. Ours is far from shit, even on bad days like this
>>183108665
Not unless we learn to trust each other
>>183108568
Hm. What's everyone's problem with the Super Hornet?

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>>183108881
Maybe one of its secondary weapons can be barrel bombs :^)
>>183109065
The Hornet replaced the F-14 and the F-4. Mostly, people are just salty because it killed two beloved planes. Personally, I've liked it ever since I saw a Blue Angels show when I was little.

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>>183109715
Hornet a beautiful

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>>183108568
I shamelessly like the T-50.

I still can't defeat Aces of Deception II, even if I kill all the Fenrirs, I end up crashing inside the island facility

>>183109715
DESU, I just find it boring.
It can do A2A, it can do A2G, it can do EW, it can do refueling, it can suck your dick.
Realistically, yeah, it makes sense to have a shitload of one or two airframe types to make it easier on maintenance and whatnot. But I find it incredibly dull compared to having like seven different specialized aircraft types

>>183110605
3rd person view has fucking ridiculous screenshake if that's giving you trouble. HUD and cockpit don't have as much.

Otherwise, just practice. I don't recall if you need to destroy everything inside for the S rank or not.

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>>183110306
It looks like a Flanker that the F(at)-35 sat on. I like it too.
>>183110750
It's basically what they wanted for the F-111 but done right. The F-111 had a more interesting aesthetic about it, though, with the swing-wings and tandem-seats. The Hornet by comparison just looks rather plain. But it does its job and that's really all that matters.

>>183110869
I don't really care about the S rank at this point, this mission is kinda frustrating because the Fenrirs constantly cloak and the Energy Transmitter takes too long to destroy

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T H I C C
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>>183109715
I really like the Hornet's look. I'm not sure why, it just looks very sleek. Growing up I think it was basically THE top of the line. And I grew up within day-trip-to-the-air-show distance of a bunch of military bases and a decent commute's time to the Air and Space Center (yay virginia) so I got to see them a lot and that helped cement them in my mind, I think.

I also liked the F-4 and the A-10.

Because they had shark faces.

>>183110750
>>183111229
It can do all the jobs, but it doesn't exceed at any of them. There are better carrier A2A planes, better carrier A2G planes, better carrier EW planes, and better carrier refueling planes, and the marines are there if you need your dick sucked.

It really comes across as an 80% solution driven by cost over capability, same as the F-35 program.

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>>183111850

>>183111850
>cost over capability, same as the F-35 program
Except mirrored.

>>183111850
An F-14 isn't good enough that its capability would outweigh its hangar queen tendencies. The F/A-18 may not be the master, but it'll do the job just as well, and even more important, it'll be available to do the job. Swing wings aren't worth the cost and time that their negligible performance benefits give.
>better carrier A2G planes
name one current in service aircrat that can do the bombing thing better than a Super Hornet

>>183111850
>It really comes across as an 80% solution driven by cost over capability, same as the F-35 program.
wwwwwwwwwwww

>>183112253
>name one current in service aircrat that can do the bombing thing better than a Super Hornet

That's the point, they've been retired. Intruder and Tomcat are both widely acknowledged as the better long range A2G strike platform.

>>183111850
Where did the F-18 shoot you down, anon? Over B7R?

>>183112558
Baghdad Iraq.

Oh wait.

>>183069257
Zero for Ace Squadron banter, 4 for Invincible Fleet (they should have done this in other games), 6 for friendly squadron chatter.

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>>183112489
You can pack more Super Hornets onto a carrier than if you just had the fatty fat mcfatso Intruder and tub o' lard Tomcat on board, which translates to more airframes doing more missions, whch translates to more effectiveness. The difference in performance is negligible compared to the performance benefits of having more airplanes that can do more missions more often.

>>183113605
Exactly. The super hornet is a worse plane. Real world considerations make it a better tool to have in your arsenal, but it's an objectively inferior airframe.

>>183102024
Is there a source with the details on this? I didn't find anything fighter-related.

>>183111097

Wasn't there a stillborn plan to refit these as standoff bombers?

>>183113846
We get it, you have a hateboner for anything connected to Boeing and the Navy, and you watch Top Gun and Flight of the Intruder religiously

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>>183114171
i think if there were such a plan, they might just totally design a new airframe based on it, since i dont think itd be naturally good at it
>>183113881
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_of_the_Gambia#Aircraft_inventory

>>183114762
>Merlin
<<The Sleeping King has awoken>>

>>183114175
Except I admit that Boeing owns the F-15 and Harrier, both of which are undefeated unlike the F-18. Also the B-52 which is just a good, solid plane.

So really you're just angry that the mediocre F-18 gets called out for being what it is. A jack of all trades, master of none plane with the chief accolade of being "good enough."

>>183115091
Buddies get real attached to their planefus.

SU-47 is hot but I wouldn't introduce her to my parents

>>183113846
That's what draws me to it I think. The idea that it's the underdog that wins by being superior in more ways than just on the battlefield.

>Larry Foulke's live actor and voice actor are different people
>on top of that, his voice actor is the guy known for playing angsty anime teenagers
does this bother anyone else?

>>183115462
Huh. I never thought of it like that.

I can almost get behind that reasoning.

>>183115472
Not really, no. Why does it bother you? Does it detract from either of their performance?

>>183115472
Yeah. It's a miracle he sound so good ingame and that both sound similar.

I'm not sure what's the deal with murricunt VAs doing bad work on purpose as soon it's anime.

>>183115621
It's not that Yuri is a bad VA, it's just that he sounds the same in every role he's in and it kinda ruins it for me because when I hear his voice, I don't hear a character, I hear Yuri

>>183115621
>>183115850
blame bad voice directors, voice acting in the west is still a joke

>>183115462
F/A-18 fans are probably the same people who like grunt units in mecha like the VF-11 or Jegan

>>183113846
So it's the TIE Fighter of real life?

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>>183116183
Now that's an insult to the F/A-18.

>>183116019
Never watched a mecha show but now that you say it yes. I also root for the special ops teams whenever they go up against superheroes.

Do I have bad taste?

>>183116019
The Zaku Type 2 and the GM are both excellent mechs.

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>>183116391
no you have great taste
gruntwank is bestwank

>>183116183
I don't think any 4th generation aircraft would deserve that honestly.

A6M Zero though? Yeah, that'd work.

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>>183116019
>Jegan
Still more of a Jamesgun/Javelin fan, but yeah

>>183115912
Mark Hamill is the only one that does it right

>>183116019
Hey, are you talking shit about the Jegan? It's the best feddie suit, period.

>>183115850
Bartlett, Nagase and Hamilton have this issue as well. Also the scientist dude from AC7 who looks and sounds like Albert Wesker ditched his retarded bioweapons and decided to fuck planes instead.

There's just not enough people in this line of work so we basically end up with 10-15 people doing everything.

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>>183117051
>Mark Hamil has retired from being the joker

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>>183117069
Never watched a Gundam sorry

>>183117275
Dont they just hire nerds out of college if they need a voice?

>>183116019
Nah. Love grunts but can barely stand the Whornet (I'm not sorry)
Mainly because while I dislike do-everything units, I hate one- or two-off OP bullshit worse, so it all evens out to whatever has cooler looking designs

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>>183116183
>mass produced hunk of shit deployed everywhere in massive numbers
>has a fucking retarded number of variants for no good reason
>shot down by the hundreds by ground fire and aircraft that are better than it
>ugly as sin

There's really only one answer here.

>>183118429
It really is a hideous plane. I think even the TIE Fighter is insulted by being compared to it.

Is there any cooler sound on planet Earth than jet sounds?

http://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1499723521618.webm

>>183119206
It could be worse. It could have a T-tail.

>>183119270
I like how the pilot sits on the engine and prays that it doesnt explode. Its got a trash aesthetic that i like

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>>183119270
>MiG-21 with a T-tail

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>>183119270
>>183119553

>>183119618
Meh, that just looks like an F-104 with a different forward fuselage.

>>183119728
The wings are definitely from an F-104 kit.

>talking shit about the Fishbed

you faggots are wrong on every level

>>183120010
>liking a rickety stick with wings
Who REALLY has the shit taste here?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7AgUcME4o0

FISHBED PRIDE WORLDWIDE

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>>183120010
>>183120398
Boo!

>>183120525
>gets out-turned by a MiG-17
LMAOING@ ur lyf

Thunder, get the fuck over here and spit some dank F-4 statistics

>>183120713
stop falseflagging prec

>>183120713
>post banned immediately
What did he mean by this

>>183120714
Like what?

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>>183120643
>mistaking F-4s for F-105s
>get your entire force shot down