/r6g/ - Rainbow Six General

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first for drugs

>>183027190
>tfw Echo has been getting picked icreasingly more over time since previous graphs

feels good :^)

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Pulse is just tooooo strong. Someone get this HOTHEAD OUTTA HERE

[insert retarded name] Has been banned by BattlEye
[insert retarded name] Has been banned by BattlEye
[insert retarded name] Has been banned by BattlEye

I love this and its still going albeit slightly slower

>>183029357
IS THIS A MOTHERFUCKING HOKUTO NO KEN REFERENCE?

>game on Kafe starts
>Jager starts mowing down attackers as they spawn in, having crossed the street
>gets killed
>has to sit through whole match
>types zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz since his ADD is acting up
>plays Ash
>solo rush yolo shooting
The stereotype is real, holy shit.

I just finished a winning match and got 0 renown, what the fuck?

What are your top 3 favourite attackers and defenders

>Attackers
Hibana
Buck
Blackbeard

>Defenders
Echo
Frost
Doc

What do you think? Will the devs release alpha pack patch notes before the official release or will they just go straight to releasing them since we're already aware of the FAQ?

>decide to check OP Health Hub for any news
>last week they ran a 24 hour 50% renown "event" on a Wednesday they only announced on twitter after they had already started it
>Alpha Packs are finally deployed on all platforms
>Alpha Packs are only granted for WINNING matches, not for COMPLETING matches
>If people get tilted or think they will lose a game, they will simply quit out of casual games and shop for a new lobby they have a chance of winning

Okay wtf

>check MWR news
>for this weeks meme event they are adding "Demolition", a S&D variant that allows respawns
>Double XP active on this playlist

Welp guess I know what I'm playing this week

>>183030027
>Attackers
Thatcher
Hibana
IQ
>Defenders
Smoke
Valkyrie
Bandit

I know I'm boring

>>183029929
i had this happen a few games yesturday, felt bad

What's this about THunt giving no more renown?

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>>183029556
c o m f y

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>>183030631
Any gamemode played off dedicated servers will not grant renown

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So THunt, Lone Wolf won't grant any Renown from now on.

Gee, what a way to "fix a bug", Ubisoft.

>>183030846
Can I play THunt offline now then?

>>183030027
>Attackers
Ash - Love the gun & the gadget
Buck - I like making killholes and love the gun
IQ - Because FUCK your Valk cams REEEEEEEEE

>Defenders
Smoke - Love being able to hold off an entire rush so my team can relocate and brace
Frost - Waifu, plus it's satisfying AF to trap ppl
Doc - Keeping my dumbass team alive is rewarding, plus ACOG MP5 masterrace

>>183030027
Fuze
Hibana
Buck

Mira
Cav
Smoke

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>>183030846

Wow, and here I thought Ubisoft couldn't do anything stupider than Operation Health. I have egg all over my face now.

>>183030846
>Terrorist Hunt never given any attention or love
>Probably the easiest thing to subtly tweak to give Siege a unique flavor without hurting the game
>Could have a special event where you do a multi-mission Terrorist Hunt, rescue the hostage who then tells you where the bomb in the building is (it spawns upon rescue, new enemies spawn in), etc

>Just removes Renown and tells you all but to literally not even bother playing the fucking mode

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>>183030256
>packs are rewarded for WINNING only
Because the smurf problem wasn't bad enough already??

Jesus fucking christ Ubi...

>>183030027
Buck
Fuze
Blitz

Jager
Bandit
Valk/Krapkan/Echo tie

>>183031210
>echo
I've really being wanting to git good with him. But I struggle.

Tips?

>>183030027

Fuze
Hibana
Buck

Doc
Bandit
Mira

Pretty shit with them though.

So I'm moving from a 60hz monitor to a 144hz monitor later today hopefully. Is the change gonna be hardly noticable or will it be a pretty spicy change?

>>183031362
even moving your mouse around your desktop feels smoother

>>183031290
Don't look straight up when deploying Yokai because it gets stuck on the slightest elevation

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>>183031290
Bearing 9 is your primary most of the time, MP5SD should be treated like a secondary if you really need the ACOG. Use the drone to scout out enemys and flak them or prefire them from the front, dont sit on your drone in the objective room the whole round as you'll be contributing fuck all (this is why people hate on Echo so much as they've mostly only seen him be played like that). Make sure to give info to your team as you basically have a relocatable camera but only you can view it so you need to give accurate info. Echo is for cool kids.

>>183031290

The Supernova is good for Yokai holes since it can't jump and gets caught over the most minor elevation increases. The MP5SD is good now but the Bearing 9 will work better in most cases that Echo will be in.

You only have one Yokai so you have to make it count. That means speaking to teammates, giving intel, and blasting them for a good flank.

>>183031141
Yeah this is some fucking dumb shit.

I don't think Call of Duty's loot crates are any better (and think they are exploitative as fuck) but since they were introduced they have averaged about 45 minutes of "in game time" per loot crate. Doesn't matter if you win or lose, you always see that meter filling up as you play and know exactly what you will earn and how long it takes to earn it.

Siege could have done this in one of two ways

Option 1)
>Match Completed Chance Gain (Based on rounds played)
>Win Chance Gain Bonus for winning that match (2-3x?)
>Roll for loot crate

or option 2

>Chance gain only INCREASES for wins
>Will roll for loot crate at whatever chance you have on match completion (If if you have 10% and lose, it'll roll for 10, if you win, it'll increase to 15 and roll for 15)

but instead they went with the retarded option

>Chance increases drastically by winning
>Chance technically increases by losing but it's infinitely small, like 0.2% increase for losing
>Rolls for crate on win

Like, the fuck?

>>183031561
This isn't surprising. A lot of games do this with their EULA

How much you want to bet Ubisoft isnt going to release the new ops next month

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>>183032719
one rare pepe

>>183032397
Hmm? You do get alpha pack chance for winning or losing in siege. Check out the TTS if you don't believe me.

>>183032719
I have it on very good authority that they're getting released next month.

They've been 'ready' since Op Health after all.

>>183032397
its 1.5 for losing, 3 for winning

>>183033198
FAQ says you get chance, only rolls on wins. Guys on the TTS were saying it's incredibly low chance of losing right now, but if the numbers have changes than I'm wrong

Even then,
>>183033430
1.5% is still low as fuck especially since it's not rolling on that chance. I'm still better off quitting and looking for a new, fresh match to earn double the chance and a roll than sitting in a shit tier match to gain only chance

>>183031659
Thanks

>>183031724
Is this a joke? His secondary is legit better than his mp5???

Thanks for the other tips man!!

>>183031916
Guess it's not a joke, damn,,, thanks guys

>>183033572
>1.5% is still low as fuck especially since it's not rolling on that chance. I'm still better off quitting and looking for a new, fresh match to earn double the chance
not after the alpha craze runs out, then you are not going to give a fuck, and don't mind continuing after the first round was lost

>>183033572
I can't find the screenshot now, but someone did some fancy statistical analysis on the drop rates from the TTS. On average, you'd get an Alpha Pack after 12 matches, if you won 50% of your matches (and your last match was a win), with Season Pass holders getting it after 10 or so because they get a slight additional boost to their chances. Obviously, these rates may change by the time Alpha Packs are officially launched.

>>183033724

Machine Pistols are always better than their primaries. They're just that good.

>>183033819
>quitting games already is endemic in casual
>now there is a direct incentive and perceived gain for quitting
>Thinks the alpha pack craze will die down
>Loot crates most profitable business in modern video games by far
>crates, like slot machines, work by short circuiting your brain and compromising rationality
>This is a basic biological fact that is well researched
>Non season pass Holder normies can now use alpha packs to acquire numerous cosmetic items they otherwise might not be able to get due to having to spend 50,000 renown every 3 months and not having a ton left over to buy gun camos or silly hats

I think you are underestimating almost everything here

Most of these battleye bans are false positivies

no way this many people used the cheat

>>183035105
>thinks kids don't scan YouTube for any glitch and then abuse the fuck outa it
Welcome to online gaming anon

echomains are autistic weeaboos

>>183030896
>tutorial mode doesn't grant the courtesy renown so newbies can buy their first operators anymore
jesus ubisoft just let them have their funmoney this isn't worth it

Tbqh I think the whole reason this is a problem in the first place is because the drip feed of reknown this game has is PAINFULLY slow. I have like two hundred hours and am STILL missing numerous operators; there is no way any 'normal' person would be able to get all of the operators in a 'normal' span of time.
It honestly amazes me that they'd expect anyone to buy cosmetic stuff with reknown when the grind to get operators is already so huge.
Like sure, punish exploiters, but take a look at WHY people are exploiting in the first place while you're at it.

>>183037908
>getting this triggered because he hates getting drunk'd and/or prefired

>>183037908
Echomains are going to like this.
https://youtu.be/nc5rRtV2LNk?t=1h2m12s

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Will the HK season save /r6g/ and return it to the comfy general it once was?

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>have a job
>steam sale comes on
>friend bought me starter edition awhile ago, no way to upgrade it
>remove siege from account
>full jew package is 40% off
>buy it
>only have save renown for cosmetics
Masturbating to pictures of a Jewish woman's thighs payed off, it looks like

>>183038835
>retard runs right infront of a window

thats not echo being bad, thats just a retard playing echo

>>183038835
>Echo stopping the plant in the 2nd round
thats pretty spicy

>>183038835
Gotta love the commentators trying to pass off the bullshit theyre saying as actual commentry

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>>183038784
why is this allowed

>>183039693
why is what allowed

>>183038784
>>183039693
didnt mean to reply to you, please refund the (You)s

>>183039805
the AUG monstrous gun model size compared to a gun thats also considered big but not even close to the AUG

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>>183039693
i can only offer you this in return

>>183038762
200 hours? And you havent unlocked all the operators and attachments? Are you playing terrorist hunt only? Jesus.

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>>183039693

>>183038762

This is a problem because a game like this needs new players to keep it fresh. It already has a steep learning curve thanks to the complex maps and gadgets, but now a new player HAS to go to multiplayer and get curbstomped by smurfs and votekicked/tk'd by shitter teammates because he can't just learn the game and grind for operators at the same time now. I got every operator and most attachments after around 200 hours, but it was a grueling process, and it'll only get worse.

Is there a more retarded development team in gaming? It has to be an out of touch Ubisoft exec pushing these awful ideas, because I can't imagine an entire team being this braindead.

>>183038835
im not sure if you were trying to be sarcastic there when saying echomains wont like it as theres nothing bad about echo shown there

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Winning the match before the match starts. Don't know how to feel about this.

>>183040709
Back when the game came out I baited someone into shotgunning the hostage with my drone.

>>183040709
You intimidated them so hard, they opted for group suicide.

>we can't fix our game so we will remove something that may be exploited by haxors
>newbs are fucked now, th going to die
WHAT THE FUCK UBI

>>183041095
a whole new level of incompetence, i warm up in realistic TH and the renown was a nice touch.
now because some niggers exploited a bug in situations with a external program they decided to axe renown gain from fucking legit solo play.

and they even picked up on the exploiters so why the fuck was this even needed when they were getting banned anyway?

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>>183040709
>unironically playing bomb

why is rook no longer really used in the meme leagues?

>there are people here who used 50k renown glitch
>theyre banned
spicy

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I hope Thatch and the boys get a hood up iranian embassy version uniform

Pubs have been just extraordinarily fucking garbage today, it's nuts.

Usually I see one or two play at least decently but every single one today has been bottom of the board 0-7 trash.

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>>183040423
>Is there a more retarded development team in gaming?

Ever since I went back to MWR it's really fucked up having Activisions "B Team" of the extra 40 dollar add on game fucking destroying Siege on just adding shit to the game

Activisions jewry is present but fuck if they don't give me reasons to log in or see whats up with the game

>>183042972
I didn't realize how fucking awful skins in Call of Duty are. I'm thankful Siege isn't quite there yet.

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>tfw no qt IQ gf to snort lithium powder lines off her soles

>>183043240
You haven't played in a while, I see.

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>>183043240
>Siege isn't quite there yet.
ehem
dont forget the poutine skin too

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>>183043240
Those skins are just the summer holiday shit. They are meant to be obnoxious and stupid since it's a summer beach theme. Weapon camos are just applied blindly all over a weapon, just like in BF3.

They also have "weapon kits" which either act similar to Sieges Skins - where you get specific placement of textures. Combined with a camo, it'll selectively place the camo in some places and kit in the others. The kits can also be complete remodels, like a busted up AK missing pieces or a highly decked out tacticool M4.

And they just keep adding this stuff constantly and regularly.

>>183043240
Are you posting from 2015?

>set up sweet valk cam on hereford which let me peek 3 people from 2nd floor barricaded window

I fucking love shit like that

>>183042325
Because Doc is better in every measurable way

>>183043240
>running summer themed beach event
>upset these skins are obnoxious and flamboyant

c'mon

>>183043442
>doesn't even look like bacon

probably the worst thing about this skin

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>tfw made a thread on ubi forums 5 days ago
>no replies
all they gotta do is move the fucking gun to the right a little

>>183040709
I've won faster than that, they shot the hostage 2 seconds in.

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>there are people who actually unironically play IQ

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>>183043874
it just looks like weird meat

>>183044365
there are people who unironically play echo so playing IQ isnt bad at all

>>183042325

Because defense has even worse balance than attack, and rook was only really taken because he had good guns and every role was already fulfilled.

>>183044421
looks like that shit that america thinks is bacon

>>183044579
naw dog america has real bacon
its a french leafs interpretation of american bacon

>>183044365

Her Commando and G8 unironically feel great to use. Fuck the AUG.

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>>183043240
A couple months ago the Infinite Warfare devs released a bunch of lazily made skins. There were complaints from the community so they devs fixed it eventually

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>>183044626
>real bacon
this shit amerifats have isnt real bacon

>>183044908
>buying some walmart shit

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>>183044670
the 552 is easily her best rifle but that doesnt mean they shouldn't fix the fuck up that is the AUG model size even if no one will use it

also
>LMG ads time
>feels great to use

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>>183044960
anything other than pic related isnt real bacon, canadians get pretty close though

>>183044980

>50 round magazine
>better damage and rof than the PDW9
>completely vertical recoil
>no more speed reduction

It's a lot of fun.

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>>183045223
i want to post something like >>nice try
but that looks pretty good

>>183045338
What anon posted is British bacon.

You can find it in butchers if your town is lucky enough to still have one.

>British immigrant
>never gets to eat real bacon anymore
>never get to eat real sausages anymore
Shit sucks

>>183045638
im in chicago i got like 3 butchers in a 2 mile radius
hopefully i can get some because most of them dont speak english

>>183045243
>completely vertical recoil
either you never used it or you dont know what vertical means
a vertical recoil weapon is one that has 90% of its recoil straight up like the F2/R4C and AUG

>>183044980
Isn't the 552 almost the same as the AUG except it has slightly lower ROF and slightly higher damage, aka it's a better bodyshot rifle (ever so slightly)?

How is this her "best" rifle?

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>>183045848
>there are different recoil patterns in Siege
>weapons that have "straight up" recoil exist in a realm where left and right recoil is a possibility

In some ways this is where Counter Strike got it right. As stupid as it was to have to do dumb shit, it was the same shit every time. You would learn to control a weapon, where as in Siege you learn to only use guns you have to "pull down" on

>>183045752
If you do, enjoy it!!

>>183045974
Not him, but I personally find the 552 much more manageable than the AUG. then again I'm a shitter so who knows.

>>183045974
the only advantage the AUG offers is a 30 extra RPM compared to the 552.
recoil is debatable since while the aug offers predictable recoil its huge compared to something like the F2 or R4C which have much higher RoF and damage output.
the 552 on the other hand gives you high damage per shot and very easy recoil to control once you slap a compensator to kill the horizontal recoil.
ive played IQ alot recently and experimented with all the weapons and attachments, ive found that the 552 with verical grip and comp seems to work best, flash and muzzle is really bad on it.
the LMG is nice but the ADS time doesnt fit the 3 speed playstyle imo.

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How bad can you be that you're unironically copper

>fucked up shading on most of charms like ranked charms and Y2 SP carbon charm, even on flat ones
>fucked up shading on Y1/Y2 dlc weapons like Hibana's type 89 stock and that fucking sharp triangle on Caveira's luison
>Platinum *paid* skin makes luison look blurry as fuck
That's the quality we deserved, boys. They had only one fucking job, and they picked extremely lazy way, or outsorced y1/y2 guns to some indian modellers.

>>183047304
*outsourced

Holy FUCK i hate console fags.

>playing defense on secure
>im echo
>in another room using drone while enemies are capturing while teammates rush them
>alright ill use the drone on them while they rush in
>5 seconds left, they run in and die
>i run to the obj, kill 1 no time to kill the other
>they vote to kick me
>tk me next round

It's my fault you died before me? What the fuck.

how do we make the game more fun

>>183047518
>useless echo fag strikes again
>xd not my fault im useless peice of shit
i make sure to TK the drone as soon as its out so we atleast get a shitty rook than some faggot afk on drone that doesnt use mic because hes a stuttering weeaboo

>>183047518
>capture
>not in cap room
>not helping secure cap room while it's being taken
>supprised when kicked
S C R U B

>>183047946
Replace useless operators or make them useful

Fix every spawnpeek place

Do something aganist toxic trash

Give frost and iq nude uniforms

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How the fuck do I get my NAT off of strict?! I just want to hunt some terries!

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Is he the main villain of Siege?

>>183048419
The main autistic operator of Siege yes

>>183048419
hes Batman

>>183048631
that doesnt make any sense

batman has good intentions at least

>>183040248
>and attachments?
Nooope not even close
Pretty much all of it is casual, I'm not even ranked this season; though iirc playing casual gets better reknown per minute than playing ranked anyway.

>>183040423
>but now a new player HAS to go to multiplayer and get curbstomped by smurfs and votekicked/tk'd by shitter teammates because he can't just learn the game and grind for operators at the same time now
100% agree, I picked up the game when the Spanish operatives dropped and holy fuck was it mindmelting when I learned new ops costed 25k each.
It's absurd to even imagine unlocking a new op (playing normally, i.e. no exploits) taking any less than like a month of play (1 hr or 2 a day avg.) or like 4 - 5 days of hardcore grinding, which, come on, is fucking rediculous considering we all have other things to do outside of Siege.
Which is already retarded, but of course other players will already have dlc operators which are sometimes just flat out better on some maps and sites, meaning you get fucked all the way up until you get at the very least the best ops for the meta.

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holy shit it looks like blitz harnessed the power of christ here

buff blitz when?

>>183048741
so does jager

>>183049620
hes pretty op now that his hit box is fixed
ive been stomping shits with him, but he could use a buff on his flash radius
or at least change the animations for people that get flashed
make it so they dont cover their eyes unless they are actually blind and not just 1% flashed

>>183048419
As he is, he pretty much exists only to spawnpeek
Is that the intention of the devs?

>>183049710
>fight against blitz
>waste an entire mag, cant hit their head, get flashed, get fucked

>play as blitz
>get headshotted the moment i move one pixel

>>183048008
We literally went over the plan before we did it, the two of them would rush while I used the drone to stun the enemies to basically guarantee the kills.>>183048169

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>>183049838
you just gotta get a feel
ive been doing good, still get killed sometimes but i usually get at least 1 kill a match with blitz

>>183048419
There are no windows in siege.

>>183050419
I should clarify that I mean there are no movable windows.

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>>183048419
Is he the main character of Siege?

>cool name
>had a brother, did paper work on his first year (first act of protag journey)
>does drugs
>went undercover
>IQ as love interest

Alpha packs fucking WHEN

>>183050843
>>>/owg/

>>183050895
>really necessary feature when casual is one big ongoing with leavers in every match
>go to owg

>>183050970
>lootboxes are necessary for me since im pretty bad and alt f4 when i die so i need some weapons skin to keep me invested in the game
>>>/owg/

Is there an official date for the next op?

>>183050149
>but i usually get at least 1 kill a match with blitz
keep practicing and that number will keep on rising

grinding casual blitz/870-jäger for a full week has pushed blitz into my top 3 operator in both playtime and overall k/d

I've become addicted to point blank combat after burning out on the high plat acog jigglepeek meta
plz send help

>>183051439
>implying I need them when I was speaking about casual overall and that some free cosmetics you will get by playing game without leaving is a good thing since there will be a reason for players to finish even 0:2 game
>HAHA RETARD GO TO OWG WITH YOUR LOOTBOXES

>>183049356
>It's absurd to even imagine unlocking a new op (playing normally, i.e. no exploits) taking any less than like a month of play (1 hr or 2 a day avg.) or like 4 - 5 days of hardcore grinding, which, come on, is fucking rediculous considering we all have other things to do outside of Siege.

I'm usually very anti-Ubi on this front but in constant play it takes about 40 hours to unlock a DLC OP. It takes even less if you are a sporadic gamer (Come back to Siege after a few days, have 3 fresh 200ish renown challenges to complete, plus your weeklys)

If you hate it so much you should simply pay for the DLC OP's. Buy Y1, Grind for Y2. If you are as money / time manage savy as you are trying to let on, you'll understand this is a very good value if you enjoy Siege.

>>183052169
>even 0:2
I highly doubt people will stay in "already lost" matches just to get a 0,X% chance increase
the fact that you only roll for a pack on match win might actually increase the amount of leavers

>>183051439
>literally clueless that people quit casual like they are being paid to

Is the last time you played December 2015?

>>183052290
Even if it's 0.2% as it was stated somewhere before (I heard on tts it was 0.2% but not sure, and maybe they will increase this value for release) is still SOMETHING. I'm tired of playing last round with/versus non-full team. Why leave when you will get maybe small but boost to chance of getting box from next game?

>>183052262
>it takes about 40 hours to unlock a DLC OP
Like what the fuck!
I DON'T HAVE THAT TIME, that's ONE operator. ONE!
Maybe children do, but I have like, priorities!
I can put in two hours tops a day, and the fact that I can't contribute to the current meta is absurd; remember, these are CHARACTERS we're talking about, complete with their own loadouts and and abilities as well as their own place in the meta of each map and site, NOT customization options that don't really matter
This, again, is only compounded by the fact that if you start fresh, with there already being tons of DLC operators out (and this gets worse as each dlc releases), you're totally and utterly fucked

>you should simply pay for the DLC OP's
>you'll understand this is a very good value if you enjoy Siege
Paying money should not be the way to resolve this, it's only 'good value' because the rainbow 6 dev team (Who, in my eyes, are also responsible - not simply their ubisoft higher-ups) have decided the grind should be this unfathomably difficult and monotonous, not for any good or justifiable reason, hence I think it should be changed

Anyway, I've already put in my 200 hours and due to the sunken cost fallacy I don't think I'm going to be giving Ubisoft my money anytime soon. They'll get payment in funbucks and like it.

>>183052735
just like

get gud with recruit

>>183052735
>the grind should be this unfathomably difficult and monotonous
If playing the game is unfathomably difficult and monotonous maybe you should find a different hobby.

>>183052735
>Paying money should not be the way to resolve this

Paying money for additional, post release content is 100% absolutely a good value because you are complaining you do not want to put in a reasonable amount of time to acquire OP's. It's not our fault you came into the game a year and a half late to the party. You'd have all the DLC OP's if you maintained this timeline since launch.

If you can only put two hours a day into a game, paying what should be an hour of your salary to maximize your enjoyment of Siege and focus exclusively on the fun bit - yes this is what a literal definition of good value is.

For someone who claims to be bogged down with responsibilities and priorities you seem to have a very immature view of utilizing your disposable income.

And, you know, the misuse of the sunken cost fallacy makes me think you are just financially illiterate.

>>183053003
>totally skips over the part where you have to 'play the game' for incredible amounts of time for small skips in progress that may as well be just straight up given to you for how integral they are in playing the game

>>183053163
>just straight up given to you for how integral they are in playing the game

Alternative offer - DLC heroes's can only be purchased by paying for them. Buy the season pass or pay for them ala carte, but you can't earn them through gameplay anymore.

This is the old industry standard way that still exists in many games to this day.

>>183053219
Name ONE (1) """Competitive""" game that does this

>>183053316
This is fallacious as Siege isn't competitive by any appreciable measure, despite Ubi trying

And yes games in the past make you spend money to play them. Any game with an expansion pack satisfies your demand

i want to grind renown on IQs feet

>>183053445
You want to try fallacious? How about the false dichotomy you present of how we can EITHER have an endless grind for new operators OR have paid operators. No inbetween at all!
Lessening the amount DLC operators cost just a tad? Nope, impossible!
Raising the amount of reknown you get overall, allowing players the ability to get into the habit of purchasing (pretty modestly priced) customization options? Nope, also impossible, of course!
Or even giving a fucking crutch to the new players so they're not dropped straight into the deep end, like giving two freebie DLC operators? Nah, it's EITHER/OR, yo! No middle ground!

>And yes games in the past make you spend money to play them. Any game with an expansion pack satisfies your demand
most multiplayer games with expansion packs do NOT allow you to play with those who do not own said expansion/dlc, and for THIS REASON - It fucks the meta! Try Starcraft, for instance! Or Civ!

Is there a reason I can't find the new Caveira skins / uniform in the shop? Both in the normal locations, and the "Digital Content" section, I can't find it. Did it just not release yet?

>>183053819
>Lessening the amount DLC operators cost just a tad? Nope, impossible!

This wouldn't be financially viable and, as such, no new characters.

You also outline how in other games they deny you access to playing with those without the content - so my alternative I offer is that I will deny you access to ranked, as ranked is for full content owners only, and if you wish to play in a non competitive manner you can play in casual.

>>183053974
I don't even understand your logic because it's not as if this game isn't already monetized, there ARE customization options that, no shit, are all about getting players to fork over real money to avoid the grind for them
Same with loot boxes that are comin' REAAL soon, what are they made for if not clearly monetization?

But THESE are unnecessary for the game as a whole, and can be bypassed if you're not willing. OPERATORS, however, are ABSOLUTELY necessary.
They, again, have their own unique loadout, ability set, and place in the meta of each and every scenario.

This is something that is still unprecidented in this sort of game, could you fucking IMAGINE Overwatch putting new heroes behind a paywall? AFTER the asking price? AFTER the loot boxes?

But y'know, man, I shouldn't be so harsh on the dev team since they're trying to monetize a game that is, at its core, free to play--
Oh, right. $50 MSRP.
haha whoops

>>183054432
>I don't even understand your logic because it's not as if this game isn't already monetized, there ARE customization options that, no shit, are all about getting players to fork over real money to avoid the grind for them
Trying to argue that a purely cosmetic item that one art guy can churn out in a day vs the conceptual work of a new character, raw programming of that characters ability, bug testing, balance testing and overall quality control (PLUS the art assets) is laughably dumb. This is not a foundation to build on.

>Operators are absolutely necessary.
Not at all. In fact many of them are under represented in the meta. All operators continue to operate just as they did before. Rook still functions.

>Could you imagine putting [heroes] behind a pay wall?
You mean like how the most popular game in the world - League of Legends - does it?

Your issue is that you want to play the game competitively but do not wish to pay for the totality of all content , which in any other way you could make this analogous would show you are retarded , and you don't want to put in the time or effort playing the game a reasonable amount - which means you don't care about being competitive, which can also be applied with numerous analogs

In short you are just whining about 20 dollars that would immediately solve all your problems. You have spent more time here than you have earning that money. Complaining about this has cost you more money than buying the DLC. Congratulations!

>>183055421
>raw programming of that characters ability
Hibana.c

>bug testing
Remembering that situation with Mira's window makes me laugh over this, are they testing anything at all?

>and overall quality control (PLUS the art assets)
Some models of dlc guns have stupid issues. Hard to say it was somehow controlled, while original ops have really nice modelled guns.

Ubisoft drastically dropped quality control over new content now. And they still produce somehow popular real-money-only cosmetics, so they make enough money now. I'm not that anon you're arguing right now, tho

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>yfw a fuze hockey puck lands right next to you

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>>183055929
>yfw a team member gets downed by pucks, res them, they get up, stand in the same position get pucked again

>>183041570

>implying there is any mode that is better balanced.

Admitted, House is a shitty, imbalanced map, but Bomb is the only good mode.

This is a cursed game.

An amazing concept in the wrong hands. It wasn't even intended to be popular. There is a timeline out there where the game is given out to a dedicated and passionate company, some probably actual Tom Clancy fans, and we'd get a modern classic.

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>>183056186
>bomb
>balanced

>>183055421

dude tbqh I honestly think you're fucking delusional and blinded by the fact that you like the game, I don't think you or anyone else would find this acceptable in any other game.

>This is not a foundation to build on.
Fuck off, you wrote all that horseshit and attacked a totally different point to dodge the fact that there are tons of other monetized aspects to this game other than operators.

>Not at all. In fact many of them are under represented in the meta. All operators continue to operate just as they did before. Rook still functions.
Garbage. Some are objectively better in certain scenarios. Hibana is effectively one of the best operators in the entire game and looking back it shocks me she's not a default operator. And most others would absolutely turn a loss into a win if picked over a default operator, such as Mira in Oregon basement, for example. Just because they can all point and shoot doesn't mean they all act the same in every scenario, try again.

>You mean like how the most popular game in the world - League of Legends - does it?
Oh you mean that game that allows players to try out champions for free, alternating which ones are free so players can use, at the very least, a few without having to unlock them? Re-read >>183053819 line 4
So you mean that game that does occasional price cuts on champions, allowing people to get them at fairly good deals without having to pay the normal grind price?

>Your issue is that you want to play the game competitively but do not wish to pay for the totality of all content
1.) I already paid the MSRP, dumbass. 2.) I just want to play online on an even playing field, and make sure that newcomers aren't stomped by those who HAVE paid the extra price for operators.

>and you don't want to put in the time or effort playing the game a reasonable amount
""reasonable"" >>183052735
Just because you only go to school doesn't mean everyone else does, anon.

>Up 2 to 1
>5 kills 1 death
>defend, play rook
>everyone goes to roam
>5v1
>kid says "clutch or kick"
>get three kills
>last two sandwich me, I down one of them before dying
>get called a noob
>kicked

Casual, sigh.

>>183057278
>clutch or kick
Oh, those stupid kids with their youtube-shit

>>183057408
>>183057278
What youtube shit?

>>183057431
All this stuff like "CLUTCH OR KICK" came from youtubers with their "funny highlights". At least I think so

>>183057408
I don't know if it comes from Youtube specifically, first time I heard that term was in CS.
Guess children could have picked up the term from their favorite CLUTCH Youtubers.

Pretty retarded anyways, it's like saying "if you can't carry me then leave".

>add someone
>never play with them again

why is cav not played in promeme leagues?

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Castle is a useful operator

>>183057871
That sums up my uplay friend list.

>>183058295
Her ability is very unreliable against coordinated teams where everyone watches eachother's backs, and droning is done to an autismal degree of precision.

And aside from her ability, she's a roamer with no ACOG, no nitro, and fairly unimpressive guns.

>>183058295
>bad guns
>no acog
>silent step is useless
>interrogation is both useless and unusable
>if picked the team can't pick someone useful instead

alpha pack what time?

>>183057249
>1.) I already paid the MSRP, dumbass.
Apparently not because your complaint is that you don't like the price being charged.

>>183058434
>tfw have a compulsion to add anyone with a cute anime avi

>>183057871
I don't know why but people keep adding me for no reason. I have a normal name, have a shitty Berserk profile pic and I'm a mediocre player. No one ever talks to me on Uplay but people keep adding me.

>no acog on shotguns
;_;

>>183059034
12AM EST today possibly, but no one knows for sure

>>183059334
>no acog on Nitro
;_;

>>183059409
>no acog on knife
;_;

>>183059456
>no acog on shields
;_;

>>183059562
>no acog on breaching charges
;_;

Jager has a crush on IQ but IQ gets spitroasted by Bandito and Blitz daily behind his back

>>183059334
>New polish Operator
>Polish Buck
>Uses a pump shotgun firing hand crafted slung rounds
>Shotgun has ACOG and minimal fall off distance
>Punches shotgun sized (normal not buck sized) holes in walls even at distance
>Can manually load Dragons Breach rounds into the breach, which will cause ongoing damage to targets and cause small napalm burning on surface to occur for 5 seconds (damage if touched)
>Can be suppressed and ACOGd

>Secondary weapon is a sawed off double barrel loaded with 12ga buck

hopefully getting my 144hz monitor within the next hour (currently on a 60hz one) how big will the change be, will it take a while to get adjusted to?

>>183031141

I thought you just bought the alpha packs with renown?

Do you have to be awarded an alpha pack then use renown to open it?

>>183060029
>how big will the change be?
it's pretty eye opening imo, how much depends on how good/bad your 60Hz monitor is

>>183060401
You have a chance of getting a pack after every match, if you win your overal chance at your next pack increases.

You can also buy alpha packs with renown.

>>183060401
No, you can purchase alpha packs with renown if you want, but you will be receiving them mainly via winning.
There's no cost associated with opening a pack up once you get it.

>>183060401
As far as I know you have a chance to get a alpha pack after you won a round, your chance to win an alpha pack will increase with every win.
You can also buy alpha packs with renown but I think you can open them for free.

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>>183042878

I want the navy army issue jumper as an option. Like the ones they wore in cod4.

Reminder that there's nothing wrong with day drinking or puking inbetween rounds (so long as your mics off).

>>183060846
get help nigga before your liver is kill

>>183060846
lmao what kind of pussy liver do you have if you still have to puke, what are you fucking french?

>>183056978

>being this retarded

Ever wondered why there is only Bomb matches in Pro League? And why it is always the same 4-6 maps?

I've been out of the loop for awhile, and when I heard about Op Health it sounded like a good idea. Can someone explain this backlash to me?

th-thanks ubi for that

SERVER DOWN?

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>>183062061
>>183062064

nice there went my 3-1 ranked game thanks ubi

>in really intense game with great team
>servers go down
hmm yeah I really like that thats really good thanks ubisoft

IT'S HAPPENING

why can't they have an ingame notifier like the division which says "server shutdown in 15:00" in some corner of your screen

fucking baguetteniggers jesus christ

alpha packs when?

>>183062389
Never

Just like the servers coming back online

>>183062548
You lie. when?

>>183059823

I'm behind this idea 100%

Who should I get for my first dlc attack operator?

>>183063031
The attack op I hate seeing on the enemy team the most is Buck, so I guess that, he's like long-range super-fast Sledge with significantly better guns. Hibana is also almost always a good pick.

>>183063031
If you want an attacker get Hibana
If you want a defender get Valkyrie

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IQ is life

Is the super 90 still the best shotgun?

>>183063513
GSG9 or SAS are the best shotguns

>>183062287

They usually do? Normally, when maintenance is scheduled, you even get a menu popup to warn you.

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Why is Castle so fucking useless?

>>183063608
>pump action
>better than semi auto
Unless they do three times as much damage per shot than semi auto ones, nah m8.

>>183063608
>GSG9 870 is a murder machine with an impossible amount of shells
>GEO ITA12 secondary only good for hatches and murderholes
damn the balance

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new ash engineering bundle

>>183064298
nice beret you jew slut

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did you wish valk a happy birthday?

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>>183064298
>yet another ash uniform

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>>183064483
>it's another medallion/roundel charm

>>183064483
What does it look like is the real question

>>183064731
Probably something unique, who knows with the crazy creative bastards at Ubisoft.

Alpha Packs today or nah?

>>183064604
Come on, the medallion charms suit almost every weapon. I put the Glaz medallion on nearly everything

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>buck and IQ have no uniforms while operators who have multiple keep getting more

>>183065338
The medallions are ok, but the roundel ones are so boring and bad. its also the fact that its the same shit over and over again and nothing new, thats bad.

>win 1 round
>a full fucking DAY later I still have that daily
Really got the old grey matter going splatter all over the wall when I shot myself

You can do the valk challenge in solo THunt btw.

How is Ubisoft so lazy? A good unique charm would take at least 8 hours for a modelling employee.

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32 more mins boiss

>>183065702
the modelers and mappers are working running on hamster wheel to keep the electricity for the servers going as part of their operation health schedule

What's Oregon supposed to be?

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>>183065815
>people are unironically excited for loot boxes
i remember playing games for the game itself and not cosmetics but i guess im just old and out of touch with today's youth

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>>183066207
its the only real content we're getting this season

redpill me on alpha packs, what are they?

>>183066191
waco

>>183066272
i really wish they'd re-model female Ops and make em SMOKIN' HOT
(or at least somewhat decent human-looking)

>>183066498
>IQ
>not SMOKIN hot

Ugly ops are Valk and Hib

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>>183066615
valk looks fine in her character portrait but ugly in game

>>183066207
Well, I for myself bought the game long before lootboxes were even announced why wouldn't I get a little bit excited that I get free stuff just for playing the game?

montagne is basically cheating he has no counterplay when he is being supported

>Twitch
>Ash
>IQ
>Hibana
>female op

>Frost
>Mira
>Valkyrie
>Caveira
>female op

Literally two more female ops and we'll have an all female game match

>>183066892
peek smokes to hold him off and force him into a ambush

>>183066892
*boom*

>>183066950
3 new OPS in August, that means that we could get 2 females OPS in August

>>183066950
does the upcoming tranny hong kong Op count?

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>>183067053
I hope that the polish OP will be really cute

>>183067148
>your face when she's modelled off Kasia

>>183067223
I'm sold!

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>>183067148

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>>183041072

>>183067017
>montagne has niggers like blackbeard behind him
>suggested counterplay is teleporting next to him and hoping you picked an operator with nitro

>>183067719
Just be a turbo nigga like bandit and get rid of him

>>183067719
Smoke shit out of them

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>>183067529
>being black in Poland

>>183066375
I'll give you the pink pill and tell you to read the fucking pastebin guide in the OP

WHERE

>>183068582
delayed 45 minutes

>>183068635
Bravo. They wasn't able to figure out any issues 30 mins ago, but now something went wrong.

>operation health

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bQUVs5cE5w

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>When Ubisoft thinks that better communication with the community means giving us more Soon™'s

>>183069109
Still more than TF2 gets

>>183069405
Why the fuck would I care about TF2, much less see any Valve game as an example on how to communicate with a community.

>>183069553
All I'm saying that it can always be worse

>>183066498
I wish they'd remodel the female ops to make them boyish and ugly soviet-olympic-ish, like what you'd realistically expect from women in a combat role unit.

>>183066892
He's also pretty useless. Literally a glorified drone.

who else is about to open their alpha pack?

>some epic skin for AR33
Nah, but it could've been worse

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>>183070168
Post your first ones, m8s

>>183070453
The smol g3 is not bad by any stretch of the imagination.

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did i do a good?

do you get a free box? i'm ingmae right now

>>183070639
this actually looks pretty nice

>>183070718
yes

>>183070558
thats extremely spicy anon
>>183070741
i thought so too, i might have to meme around with jager for a bit just because of it

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yo

>chances increased!
>+0
Hmmm

>>183070938
What the buck?

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Dinosaur operators when?

>>183070718
You PC, bro?

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hows this for some pure spice

>people leave as always
Ok I'm taking my words back, it didn't helped at all (at least right now)

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is firefly a new skin?
its universal btw

how much is the Ash bundle

>>183071524
there is some new stuff so maybe

>Win game
>Chances go up 2%

lol

>>183071975
this is why thunt solo lost the renown, it probably let you inflate your chances

>>183071975
>Starts at 50%

Doesn't seem bad

>mfw
>I got the blaze buck skin on the free alpha pack

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>>183072083
(you)
i still get renown from solo th

>>183072083
Alpha pack chances weren't going to be implemented for terrorist hunt anyway

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2 Legendaries

Are chances capped to 50%?

I don't the alpha pack bullshit.

On the screen is a chance of 50% and it tells me I have one alpha pack.

When I open the pack will I have a 50% chance to get an item or what?

>>183072336
Nope

>>183071693
7.99$

>>183072083
>>183072205
The new changes to terrorist hunt aren't going to be done anytime soon.

>>183072360
50% chance to get a pack if you win a game

>>183072360
Read the alpha pack FAQ. It's literally for you

>>183072382
I won 2 matches and they still like 50% after "BOOST"

aaaaaaaand its shit

>>183072527
I did.

>>183072494
So I can open the pack without fear then, cheers.

>people gonna complain that casual will be loaded with smurfs
>they forget that their team will be loaded with smurfs aswell, not just the enemy team

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>>183072575
i'm never ever going to use an lmg fuck ubisofft

>>183072751
im pretty hapy with my spicy skin here >>183071346
while i dont play jager much its nice to have it on his meme gun for if i ever do

>>183072859
Thats frost's gun

>>183072859
oops meant to link >>183070639

>>183072974
>>183072986

>three rolls
>0 packs
>its fucking 50%
aaaaa

>win 2 games
>get matched against some smurf/hacker who goes 13-2
>repeat

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>>183070558
desu the only thing i -want- from the packs are black ice finishes for bucks c8 and frosts c1 and also Rheinland finishes for all gsg9 weapons

>>183070639
Looks better than >>183072302

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>>183073276
oh fuck you chinkmoot with your fucking phraseswitcher i said t b h and i meant t b h

atleast most of this smurf sperging out for alpha packs will mostly be in casual and not spill over into ranked

I LOVE IT WHEN MY TEAM HAS A LEAVER AND 3 RUSSIAN TEENS AND THE ENEMY TEAM IS SMURFS

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Well alright.

>tons of leavers and smurfs
OH FUCK APOCALYPSE ON CASUAL IS NOW LIVE

>+1.5% after loose
That's pretty nice tho

>>183072751
I got black ice for that gun too
it sucks but at least it isnt cap's lmg =/

I got the engraved skin for the l85, it's pretty noice.

>>183073146
thats xcom baby

>>183074523
>>183072751
>talking shit about the 6P41
I would tell you to git gud but it's such an easy gun to use because of its lack of recoil while firing all 100 rounds that you really don't need to acquire such skill

>>183074637
Engravings give you no tactical advantage whatsoever

>>183075165
It might distract the more aesthetically enclined enemies for two thirds of a second.

>>183075165

You filthy American dog!

5 times with 50% and no pack
I guess I'm the luckiest person in this thread

Did they change they change some people servers or something, i suddendly have 200 ping and playing against people that can only say faggot on the mic

>dead general for a game with no substantial content fir 4 months
>dead teamspeak that nobody uses anymore
>literal attention whoring traps in discord
This place really is going to shit

Are we overwatch yet?

>>183075165
Since L85 Engraved skin also applies to the trigger-hand grip, wouldn't it prevent your hand from slipping, compared to the stock smooth plastic material?

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cool