/r6g/ - Rainbow Six General

@183132879
Why is shit like this not bannable?

>>183133023
game related content, whats the problem?

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nth for campi

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>>183133298
is it actually him?

How did they ban people if it was all done offline?

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>>183133298
he seemed like an alright guy, theres no way

>>183133408
It logs your +50k renown and people did it multiple times per week

>>183133408
im pretty sure the server tracks renown and people who got a massive amount of it in a short period of time or atleast much faster than the average renown making rate got banned

sort of how Fairfight anti cheat bans people based on impossible stats.

>>183133408
>250(ish)R on a win
>matches take set amount of time
>set maximum for weekly challenges
>user goes offline
>user comes back online with 50k more renown that usual
>BUT HOW COULD THEY KNOW?!?!

Are you really that fucking stupid anon?

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Some of these new skins are fucking amazing

>>183134219
and you're guaranteed to get nothing but trash instead of them.

>operation health
>actually kills the game and makes it extremely unpopular relatively speaking
What did ubisoft mean by this?

>>183134219
At least i can dream of getting a good pistol skin for blitz

>>183134589
Everything about operation health is a spit in the face of the players, Ubisoft is once again proving why they're one of the most hated developers.

>>183134361
Least it's something to spend all that useless renown on.

>>183134589
People who cry about MUH OP HEALLFFF are always shitters. The actual instances of issues are very small, rest of the time its just their own lack of skill and wanting to blame it on anything other than that.

>>183134795
>People who cry about MUH OP HEALLFFF are always shitters
I'm not a shitter, I literally quit playing this game when I realized they weren't coming out with new content like they promised.

>>183134589
>actually kills the game and makes it extremely unpopular relatively speaking
What did the shitter mean by this?

>>183134795
I'm fine with spending useless reknown, and hell, getting them for free. I just wish they were cheaper and you got a bit more % per win.
And everyone complaining about op health sure as hell ain't shitters, man. The game is in the worst state it's been to date and we've only got alpha packs and a single mid season reinforcement so far with nothing but "y-yeah we're working on it, guys."

>>183134914
>im not a shitter
Yes you are.

>I don't even play anymore
Then why the fuck are you here?

Go away s h i t t e r

Why did the PTS update but I can't play it? Asking for a CD key I don't have.

Jesus fuck ubisoft, you people can't blame me being a hue with 200 ping in your matches they just fucked up brazilian servers somehow
http://steamcommunity.com/app/359550/discussions/0/2217311444344598713/

My dream update

>R6 Joint Ex Competition
Theme:
R6 Operators around the globe are coming together to test their wits against each other.

Update:
Launching as a special event as Mid Season 3 and 4 in year 2, the following updates will deploy
>Polish Revival
Poland has expressed disasisfaction at Team Rainbow for excluding their training site from future exercises. As a result, the Polish Map will be included in Year 2 Season 3 at launch with the 3 operators and other Map.

>Four New Operators
American SFOD (Delta) and Russian SOBR units have been contracted to provide additional training to R6 Operatives. Each mid season two new operators will be added to the game. Operators are additional and do not delay Year 2 season pass holders so they are not included in the season pass, but discount can be used to purchase them. For the first 30 days an Operator will cost 50,000 Renown, but the cost will drop to 25,00 after 30 days.

>Two New Maps
Joint Ex training maps feature the cream of the crop of existing maps in the game. Taking the best objectives and rooms from individual maps and combining them into a training site, R6 operatives are able to tackle well played objectives in a whole new perspective. Some objectives with outside access are now exclusively indoors, some are mirrored and reversed, and some may be placed on an entirely different floor than their original map.

Note: As these are constructed maps for training purposes, Team Rainbow was able to use existing assets to construct them. They will be in a similar style to Hereford, using existing art assets already inside of R6 Siege. These are bonus maps outside of our normal production cycle, so do not expect to see anything "new" visually.

>New Sight Cosmetics
We have added new weapon sights to the game. They function identically to existing 1x and ACOG sights, but are available for purchase at a high renown cost. We have also opened up the Russian optics to all operators and vice versa.

>>183135507
>Recruit Loadout Changes
Recruit loadouts have been updated to include the new gadgets (Impact grenades) added to the game. Additionally, we have allowed customization of recruits weapons (You can purchase sights) and setting a default recruit setting for attack and defend. Recruit customization can be found on the out-of-game customization menu for operators

>Training Event Playlists
Some weeks and weekends we will be running a special Weekend Training playlist. These playlists seek to change the rules of Siege in various ways. One weekend might be a recruit only playlist, next might be a 4 v 4, and various other tweaks and changes. Watch for announcements on this in the future, along with Double Renown events and unique challenges to accompany these events!

>Reputation System
Each player now has a reputation system. By playing and completing matches, your reputation will grow positively. Quitting matches, team killing, and overall negative behavior will lower your reputation. At the end of a match you will be able to provide feedback on your fellow players attitudes - you can positively or negatively report players on your team, which will impact their reputation.

When a players reputation falls below a certain threshold, they will be restricted from queuing up in Ranked matches until their reputation improves. When queuing in casual, they will be queued with people of a similar reputation level. If you have friends with a low reputation level, you will not be restricted from queuing with them in Low-Rep match making, but they will not be able to queue with you in ranked until their reputation improves.

cont.

>>183135448
It's probably updating everyone's client with the new test build now, so you're ready to go when they open the TTS in the next few days.

>>183135615
We have developed an advanced algorithm to help manage and determine reputation levels. Being vote kicked from a match will drop your reputation, as will repeaded use of the vote kick feature by a group or party. Player reports alone are not enough to restrict someone to low rep lobbies, and a combination of gameplay behavior and other metrics are required

Your reputation over time will naturally reset to zero if you choose to not play low rep matches (This is analgous to the current "ban" we have in place). By playing low rep matches and doing well, your reputation will improve over time.

>Team Killing and Vote Kick changes
As a result of the new reputation system, we have disabled automatically kicking a person from games for team killing. We feel this system negatively impacts some people of a lower skill level, and sometimes yes, you kill two people in the course of a match by accident. We don't want players to be banned for this behavior and instead give them the ability to improve.

When a player team kills you, you have the option to "forgive" that player - this will remove any reputation penalty or team kill penalty from them.

Vote Kick has been revamped - now to kick someone from a game requires 4 votes. For each team kill, the amount of votes required to kick someone drops by 1, until only 1 vote is required to kick a player from the game. Now instead of a frag grenade killing a team mate and a hostage by accident automatically kicking you and banning you, you receive a reputation drop and the total votes required to kick you from the game drops from 4 to 2. The player you killed can choose to forgive you, raising that number back up to 3 votes required.

>Ranked Ping Enforcement
Players unable to maintain a constant, steady ping will be restricted from queuing up in Ranked Match Making

~~~

DONE- long shit. I don't expect anyone to read it

>>183133298
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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>>183135101
I was diamond before I quit

ergo
not a shiter

>>183135997
>nuh uh i was really good i swear

>>183135615
Fuck off with recruit changes. Recruit is supposed to be gimped.

>>183136645
>Recruit is supposed to be gimped.
Then take it out of the game

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>>183135098
>The game is in the worst state it's been to date
How new are you to the game?

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When did they add alpha packs?

>>183136768
Sorry, bud. It sucks Ubi is killing it but you need to accept the state of the game and what little op health has touched so far.

>>183135997
>I was rly good anon I pinky promise
>I quit playing because of a slight delay in new content
>I also cry about Op Health even tho I would have hardly experienced it
S H I T T E R C O N F I R M E D

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>pick up thermite again after the hibana fix (read: nerf)
>his gun has fucking pinpoint accuracy
>gaymore isn't actually all that terrible
>get to make rlly big fucking holes again
I'm sorry I ever doubted you, based texan

>>183136812
Today for PC. Consoles roll out next week IIRC. Not sure if PS4 or XBONE gets them first,

>>183136943
Didn't answer my question

>>183136943
>and what little op health has touched so far.

Remember the best part of OP Health when they completely fucked up half of all of Kanal to stop a weird spawn killing trick and then had to immediately revert it because they realized it (obviously) fucked up the map?

Imagine if your actual Doctor did that shit to you?

>>183136732
ubi literally said its for afk players who forgot to pick and people who have no other ops to choose from.
do you really want 5 ash/jager clones running around?

How do you guys feel about the experience of opening an alpha pack? I like that you can rip it open manually. It adds player interaction which is a small touch like opening a card pack. What I don't like is the light that starts to shine through. It kind of spoils the tier of what item you will get. I would rather it have the lights flash the different tiers so you do not know what you will get fully. Or just have a generic light show the same for all tiers. My first pack I got a purple light so I was excited. Then the second pack got the grey uncommon light. Before I was fully shown the item, my excitement kind of died. Your excitement should ride high throughout the experience.

>>183137176
>hey doc my finger has a painful twitch now and then
>we better amputate

>>183137304
>deliberating making design choices that lower the fun for every single person in the game

And this is good, why?

>>183137363
the glow while you're opening it is stupid as hell and makes you not really want to even look at what you got.

leave it to ubisoft to fuck up a lootcrate system.

loot boxes were a mistake

>>183137758
The only reason they work is because we, as gamers, fucking buy them.

Biological drive to earn loot crates or not (I get it, we're wired to this shit), people spending MONEY on it is a fucking crime against all gamers

>>183133431
The bans were for using cheat engine for free renown, not wallhacks or anything.

>>183137363
overwatch does the same thing since you can take a look of the colors of your loot flying around before they fall, but they do it so quickly that you get over with it faster

>>183137758
Isn't it a straight upgrade in terms of free shit we get? I previously never even bought skins because I need to unlock operators. So now aren't I just getting free skins?

>>183138281
Not him, but yes. It's a straight upgrade.

I guess Ubisoft after a year and a half realized they were adding a ton of cosmetic items to the game that most players won't ever buy since they are bottle necked into unlocking the extra 25K characters. If you bought the season pass(es) you had extra renown gain, and a discount, and the "only" other renown sink in the game completely eliminated - so you had the ability to swim in renown.

Otherwise the average person won't buy any of the extra characters because, every year, they need to earn 50k renown every 3 months, or 200k a year, or if you buy the game at the start of the next season, 325,000 renown to unlock all extra operators without spending any real money

And if you aren't willing to spend a few dollars to unlock an operator, you aren't going to spend a few dollars on a digital hat for 1 single character you can only play half the time and if nobody else picks him

Loot Crates were necessary for Siege - not just because it's a quick and dirty way to short circuit peoples game into fucked up reinforcement schedules that will make you addicted to Siege, but because there is all this content in the game going relatively unused.

>>183138281
its not the free stuff thats the issue its the fact it causes the TF2/CSGO skins cancer community.
a few posts above you have a faggot complaining about seeing item rarity before the actual item and that it makes him not want to see it, its those kind of faggots that lootboxes attract.

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>>183132793

i like frost, but i hope she gets a headgear that looks like what she did before release. in the teasers. or like, idk. i remember her looking something like top middle somewhere.

>>183134219
>buckled leather straps on the grip

it's shit, friend

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>>183137129

he probably started playing at release of velvet shell or some shit

>>183138878
take that back

>>183137838
>we

speak for yourself, and your website (r*****t)

>>183138281
Someone mentioned in the previous thread they've been seeing more people than average leave Casual matches after losing the first round, because you only roll for a pack after win, but this will probably die down along with the novelty of this just being a new thing. I'm a little miffed that there are some nice looking skins that are Alpha Pack exclusive, but they're cosmetic-only items, so I wouldn't mark it as a real negative.

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>>183134219

ewww

>>183138997
>not playing during the Dust Line 5 month Cops and Roamers meta

just flank or c4 lmao

>>183139152
it's not fucking reddit, it's the collective of gamers. The issue is that a much higher percentage of people buy these retarded loot crates, vs static paid-for content like map packs. There are psychological and overall just common-sense reasons why this is the reality we live in.

Trying to blame reddit does you no good, because those people aren't the ones doing it. It's a % of the whole population - and yes, "we" as in the rest of us who don't, have not done anything to stop and curb this behavior aside from bitch online while still buying these games from these companies.

>>183138871
You must be mixing her up with someone else. She always looked the way she currently looks

>>183139362
go look at the front page of r/r6siege or whatever the fuck it is and look at it
fucking skins everywhere
they love this shit

>>183139531
Go look at the last general there are fucking skins all over it too.

>L+1.5% W+2%
>from 0%
It's like they added nothing.

>tfw like using IQ more than Ash

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>people use anything other than the universal grey skin
its like you fags like to be easy to spot.

>>183139810
It seems to add up quickly enough:
>>183087720

Can Alpha Packs give you drops for operators you don't own?

>>183139967
I like the enemy to know when their death is near

>>183140121
Yes

>>183140121
How, at this point, do you not own operators?

Year 1 pass is like $10, then 50k to unlock mirror and jackyboy

>>183140112
>guy makes statistical analysis
>literally states a non-100% chance is a 100% accumulative chance

This guy is actually shit

>>183140269
I'm a casual shitter hovering around level 50 at the moment. Hoarding renown for next set of ops, current Year 1/2s don't really grab me all that much.

Is archives on consulate the comfiest site to defend?

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https://my.mixtape.moe/hsdwyr.mp4

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>tfw watching porn artist streams on one screen and playing siege on the other

>>183140482

>Consulate archives
Just Fuze my shit up.

I like Meeting Room / Executive Office on Plane. It's max comfy with black mirrors as long as you don't get too close to the plane windows.

>>183140748
>spamming links as spoilers
This should be bannable.

>>183139967
>using grey
I bet you don't even use the bright orange jager helmet you fagoot

So, I just unlocked Sledge as my first attacker. I've been told to unlock atleast 2 attackers and 2 defenders before going online. Who should I pick next?

>>183140482
yacht kitchen

>>183140805
>spoilering the final product before its finished

>>183141060
Thatcher

Doc and Rook

>>183141015
i actually got that shit from the free alpha pack
im still disappointed it wasnt the artic or black universal weapon skin

>>183141167
I'm trying to learn how to draw so seeing the process is interesting and helpful

>>183138726
I am not fully complaining. Free is free but it would be a nice touch. In my mind, loot boxes should be a surprise until the very end. That's just my opinion. Some people might like a tease. Some want to get the full load at the very end. Some don't give a fuck either way.

>>183141661
>tfw i will never get IQs full load at the end

Should I get back into this game? Quit back in February but saw a bunch of vids of it on Youtube yesterday. Got me interested.

>>183140342
I know basic statistics but wtf is accumulative chance? How does your chance grow from your last roll? Each roll is independent from the last. Your chance increases but your rolls are independent.

>>183141774
D-don't make my post l-lewd.

>be Fuze
>approaching hatch above OBJ in unbreakable floor
>Ash coming up behind me breach rounds it
Why are these people so retarded?

And it's casual, people stand under these damn things let alone in puck range in general. The Ash even got knifed when she jumped down immediately after blowing the hatch.

>>183140748
Doing gods work anon

>>183141823
I can't remember the exact nuances of how to explain it, but it's basically

If you flip a coin, it has a 50% chance of landing on heads

If you flip that coin twice, it has a 75% chance of getting heads once on one of those two flips - the idea is that the more times you flip that coin the cumulative odds of you getting "heads" approaches 100%, but it will never reach 100%, because you could hypothetically flip that coin 1000 times and get tails every single time. Virtually impossible, but not actually impossible.

The cumulative chance is the idea of all your previous rolls, plus your most recent role, is the odds of you finally getting that loot crate at any number of wins.

>>183142324
>404 not found
did i miss something sexy?

>>183141813

They didn't really add anything since Velvet Shell, and they seem to be dead set on ruining everything good about it too. But sure, it's still a lot of fun if you have a MP itch.

>>183142508
yes

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>>183140748
I really really need to know what this was

>>183142508
works on my machine :^)
did you fuck up your copy paste anon?

>>183142720
hibana footjob

>>183142887
ruined

>>183137363
I feel that the card part of the alpha pack is redundant. Just let me rip open a package and see what's inside, not clicking a card every time.

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>>183129927

>cook grenade
>chuck it onto the roof
>explodes and kills the valk cam

its not fucking difficult to counter

Coming up on 25k
do I get:
>Frost
>Mira
>Blackbeard
or
>Jackal
?

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Throwing in a meme idea on how to fix Tachanka and Castle and maybe make them useful

For Tachanka make the shield on his turret a mix of BB and Monty. By that I mean when he or someone else is using his turret it covers the front of his entire body, just like Monty, but make the shield able to break like it currently is, maybe make it so he can replace the shield on the turret if the first one gets destroyed, however it would make the player vulnerable while he does this. You could probably have it take as long as putting up a reinforced wall to replace a shield on the turret I dont know.

For Castle a simpler fix: Just make it so his barricades cant be shot through. I havent played Castle, nor have I seen anyone else do so, in a long time so I dont know if this is still true but I remember Glaz being able to shoot through a Castle barricade and being able to see into a room while being fully protected as he guns the entire defending team down. Just make it so no one can punch holes through the thing and that would make Castle ten times more useful in my opinion.

>>183143261
depends, if you like anchors get mira
if you want a operator with fun weapons get jackal
if you like to suck abbo dick get blackbeard
if your into shit tier waifus get frost

>>183143261
Blackbeard is really good and useful on every map, but he's kind of boring in my opinion since you're just a shooty guy.
Mira and Frost are both fun to experiment with, I play them both equally. Frost isn't always as useful, but it's still a lot of fun to set traps.

>>183143261

Mira is the most fun anchor in the game and can shut down entire routes if used properly. The rest just don't compare.

>>183143402
>suck abbo dick
>blackbeard
what?

>>183143261
Mira. Mira is a 10/10 game changer on some objectives once you know, fully, how to use her. Her Vector is a headshot MACHINE

Frost and Jackal are just not worth it (Jackal is, but he's just kind of boring) - especially if you don't have Hibana yet.

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Too bad this will never, ever be used

>>183142552

Damn, still might get into it though. Are the hitboxes fixed at least?

>>183143402
What's fun about Jackal?

Asking as someone who hasn't played him.

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>people getting shit skins on good weapons or good skins on shit weapons
>get bundeswehr on jagers HK
feels good

>>183143875
isn't that like a 5k renown skin?

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>tfw won against 2 diamonds
maybe im not complete shit

>every other fps
>high ping is a horrible, frustrating, crippling disadvantage
>siege
>high ping makes you an unstoppable peeking god
how do you fuck this up

>>183143940
Don't worry, anon.

I still think you are shit ;^)

>>183144096
It also allows you to get peeked on really hard too. Its just that 90% of people don't play aggressively enough because in 90% of games they would get punished very hard for it

>>183143770
Read the OP

>only seeing weapon skins in thread so far

No heads or camos???

>>183143805
PDW9 is a LMG but without the nerfed ADS time, recoil and rate of fire.
gadget while not the best is still decent.

>>183144096
Don't worry anon, the new servers and the new patch that will address the ping problems are coming soon*

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>>183143718

I unironically use this on Kanal. It's fun, but
>10 round magazine with a 20 round model
>f2 has a 30 round magazine with a 25 round model

It's such a shame that they made the F2 god tier, because otherwise her loadout gives her a lot of variety in terms of playstyle.

>>183143770

Hitboxes are pretty much fixed, but hitreg and servers are still shit. One step matchmaking is nice but it's a basic feature that shouldn't have taken so long in a season dedicated to unfucking Siege's shit up.

>>183144325
>>183144216

Thanks anons. One last question, what can I do to farm renown now for the new operators? I remember I had a method that pretty much guaranteed me at least 10k a day, but the shitters fixed it.

>complete valk challenge and claim it
>nothing in inventory
Healthed again.

>>183144503
reset uplay

>>183144503
Restart your game

>>183144503
are you the same guy that posts this kind of shit every week about birthday challenge?

>>183144604
No, but given the state of the game I'm not surprised people have problems.

>>183144651
fuck off with this meme operation health fixed everything

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>>183139967
There are other ways to blend in

>>183144234
There's atleast 3 exclusive head gears that have been posted
One for valk, doc and thermite

>>183144869
the reddit thread has pretty much every alpaca exclusive skin and headgear up right now

>>183144843
>hidden name, level, avatar
what are you, a weeaboo?

>>183144994
No, but I'm recognizable from my avatar

>>183144816
You are the only one speaking of memes.

>tempted to log on and get virtually free alpha pack
>MWR is running Demolition all week for a limited time only
>Alpha packs aren't going anywhere

Fuck what do I do

>>183143297
I want the ability to mount the turret to any waist high or vault able surface. That way you have a choice. Example: If you free stand it in the middle of a room, you get more turning degree but less protection. If you mount it on a shield or waist high vaultable thing, you get better protection but less degree of turning.

A simple change to castle would be to make it not fuze-able. Right now castle windows gives a fuze a safe way to apply his charges. At least with a normal barricade, if I hear him placing, I can spam the window or door. For the most part I can get the charge. A bonus if I get the fuze.

>>183145096
Use the alpha pack then go back and play its not that hard dude

>>183145118
and let castle put his barricade behind preexisting barricades

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>first free one was Buck wood furniture for the FAIL
>win first game
>get second alpha pack
>get this
hope ain't lost yet boys

>>183145139
Is it free on log in, or 50% chance and I have to win a match to flip that coin? or both?

Can you place more than one breaching charge/toxic babe/etc without blowing them up?

>>183145224
Both! They give you a free pack and a free 50% chance start for another one. If you are lucky, you can get the 50% one after a single game. Then you can go back to CoD

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>>183144604
>my cluster charge pucks got stuck in between the beams in the floor and killed me

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We need more desert uniforms.

>>183145286
Sadly no. The only operator that I know of who can place several things at once is Hibana. That is why I loved the old Thermite. I could place a normal breaching charge on one window and my brimstone charge on another. Then I blow up both at the same time to confuse the defenders inside to which window to watch.

>>183145308
Alright Imma log in tomorrow and open these packs, report here what I got, then head back to the 10 year old video game Activision fucked up by jewing it

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>>183145338
>fuzetards

>open alpha pack
>brazil flag skin for Cav's MP
Yes, that's what a stealth character needs, bright colors to stand out!

Fuze's pucks has such a good room clearing potential and they can remove the charges from Jaeger's ADS. How come pros do not use him more often? Is it because he is a 1 speed fatty?

>>183145430
>report here what I got
No one cares.

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>mfw Dubloon charm is literally the only thing I want from the packs
Fuck just let me buy it you cunts. Also can you find the Diamond skin from them? Also also, how will black ice cucks recover now that their precious skin will become mainstream in no time?

If a nitro is thrown in front of a fully extended monty and there is a player directly behind him, does the player behind him get the full blast or is protected somewhat from the blast?

>>183145827
>>183145430
Don't be mean. Alpha packs are a new and novel thing, why wouldn't you share what you got? Then people can either be jelly of your sick loots or laugh at you if you got shit loot.

>>183145909
im pretty sure fuckboy mcgee hiding behind mont would get killed

>>183145338
I only posted that once, I also mentioned the fact I ran away from the fucking charge and it still killed me through the floor it was stuck in.

>>183146005
>Don't be mean.
>>>/reddit/

>>183146416
>>183145827
Sad. Sad and bitter!

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>These people complained the entire match that we were hacking

>>183146445
Oh boy, trolling again? Glad this thread is going to be on par with the microtransactions one already.

Why does blitz suck :^(

>>183146624
Blitz is as good as the team you're playing against is bad.

That's why.

>>183146624
Why do you post this every thread?

>>183146912
ive been taking out by good blitz players quite often. if they manage to get close and time the flash well your goose is cooked

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Did I just open the least meta headgear in the game?

i was gonna say the only way to make it worse is if it has a target on the head but it pretty much does already

>>183147161
>>183147228

>>183146536
That double take of "Wtf wait, that is a person."

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i want to have an orgy with IQ, Ash and Hibanas feet.

>>183147316
It's Hereford I was like yeah training dummy no way someone would get on their drone in a doo FUCK WAIT A MINUTE

>>183145697
They use flashbangs and they sometimes use Hibana's pellets depending on the map and objective room

>>183145697
fuze is only really good in glue eater bracket (silver and below), above those ranks people roam and dont sit in a tiny room.
proleague is a completly different ball game where people not only roam but hold areas of the map before the objective itself and open holes everywhere so actually getting people in a area you want to fuze is very difficult and you are better off just bringing a sledge to open the floor and floorbang.
and fuze pucks are just unreliable in general to top it off.

>people actually unironically use bandit

>>183148826
Was there more to that sentence or are you just retarded?

>>183149330
probably forgot "with c4"

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>>183148826
>talking shit about the most fun defender
3 speed
900rpm minigun
3 barbs
forces enemy to bring cuckcher if they wanna make big fucking holes, and even then you can bandit trick him
gets footjobs from IQ

literally best boi

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I am satisfied.

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>Jackal's guns are too easy and gud
>oh don't worry they'll nerf them after we get chink operators
>operation health hits

>>183150039
Jackal's AR was nerfed after like a week or two m8

>guy gets hit by stray pellet while I'm making a site crossing hole and loses a trivial amount of health
>I'm Doc
>instead decides the best course of action is to half my HP
>self stim and knock his block off
>butt buddy headshots me after he's dead
I love casual

>>183150086
I couldn't even tell a difference between pre nerf and post.
I really wish hitreg wasn't so far in the shitter right now, it feels like every other match has some kind of moment where you tap some retard sticking his gob out a window and nothing happens.

>>183150086
Nani? It doesn't feel any different at all. Or did they touch something other than the recoil, which is the real problem

>>183150242
>>183150204
It was recoil and maybe RoF irrc it was touched m8s fine gun as of now for a selfish operator.

>>183150086
>>183150204
>>183150242
m8s, it was nerfed months ago back in March
>We have increased the recoil of the C7E. We felt like it was way too accurate and had no downsides. It is now harder to control for prolonged full automatic fire.

>>183150376
>It is now harder to control for prolonged full automatic fire
Not big enough to make a difference, it's still one of the easiest guns to use in the game.

>>183150308
>>183150376
But it didn't feel different is the thing. Maybe on console it does but not on PC.

>join 0:2 ongoing, last round, its another newbs vs highlvls episode
>"haha rekt u noobs" t. jager main
>cheer newbs to fight for justice
>1:2
>2:2
>3:2
Nice feeling

the nerf to the C7E gave it a shitload of horizontal recoil.
it still has the same none existent vertical its just that its really shitty at spraying spawn peek windows now.
i saw jackal used in pro leauge a few days ago and the guy there used the PDW9 on him.

>I sucked dicks while trying to ash-rush
>I leave
Typical casual shitter

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>>183151119
>diamond spawn peeks
>gets killed by a smurf account
>leaves
>smurf gets killed trying to spawn peek next round
>leaves

>>183151273
The circle of try hards continue

>>183135615
>Event Playlists

Ideas for weekend playlists
>(Map) 24-7
Play one map, and one map only in this event queue - ie House 24/7

>1 Objective type 24/7
Self explanatory, bomb, hostage or secure only

>4v4
Games changed, each team has one less operator. How do you handle this?

>3v3
Same deal as above, just even one less guy

>Classic Rainbow Six (Recruits only)
Play as close to a classic R6 game as you can within Siege. Recruits only.

>Ban Format
Each team gets to ban operators from use on the other team each round. Each player gets to ban a character from use on the enemy tean from being selected - you then select your characters from the pool that hasn't been banned.

>Double Hostage
Defend two hostage sites at the same time. Wew.

>No headshots
Headshots are no longer instant kill - you have to kill them the normal way now. No shortcuts!

>Pistols only
SMG-11 and Bearing obviously are out. All other gadgets and abilities are in.

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>>183151273
>Entire team of gold 4's rush out of the back and front of bank
>Kill the two retards and then get mowed down
>Next game get paired up with them again
>They immediately leave

>>183142482
That's not how any of this works.

If you flip a coin once -> 50% chance

If you flip a coin twice -> 75% chance

If you've already flipped a coin, and then flip another -> 50%

Past occurrences don't affect future ones. Accumulated chance refers to # flips in the future.

>>183151593
>>Ban Format

This could either be really amazing or a really bad idea

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>>183151593
>SMG-11 and Bearing obviously are out

>>183151593
>(Map) 24-7
could get boring on fartlett and favela 24 hours a day
>1 Objective type 24/7
same as above but not as bad
>4v4
interesting
>3v3
more interesting. maybe give 2 ops 1 more reinforcement to help
>Classic Rainbow Six (Recruits only)
this sounds like it would be very fun
>Ban Format
this could be very interesting
>Double Hostage
potential for rage could be very high, highly interesting
>No headshots
maybe make body shots damage a tiny bit more
>Pistols only
sounds like it would be fun

>>183136812
that skin is from destiny taken king

>>183151795
4v4 is honestly not as interesting as 6v6

4v4 basically means only FOTM ops

3v3 is almost certainly the same three guys over and over

6v6 allows for more room for variation

>>183151863
>play fine today
>do other shit
>come back
>"User profile loading failed"

this shit happen to anyone else? restarted uplay and this shit still happening

>>183151729
>Past occurrences don't affect future ones.

Except I never claimed that. We are clearly talking about cumulative chances. The idea that at how many flips of the coin is your odds of it landing on heads. Or, to apply to Siege, at what number of wins is your odds of finally getting a loot crate what percentage.

On average how many games do I have to win before I am awarded a loot crate. Knowing at 20 wins my official chances might be 45% tell me absolutely nothing.

This is why when reddit was crunching the numbers they averaged anywhere between 9-12 games per Alpha Pack awarded, assuming a 50% win/loss ratio.

The point is that if I say I'm going to flip a coin 1,000 times I can not say I have a 100% chance of getting a heads. I can not say this and also claim to understand probability. I can say it's virtually 100%, or that "You are all but guaranteed to get a heads" but I could never say 100% chance.

>>183151967
I meant >>183151593

>>183151793
>defenders only play kapkan, tachanka, frost, castle and doc

>>183151967
Sure, throw a 6v6 in there as well. Why not? As long as Ubi can manage the game not exploding by allowing 2 extra connections

>>183152067
>15 possible defenders
>5 of them banned
>They'd somehow choose the 5 most terrible ones

They can't ban all the good ones friendo, and there is some meta in making ban picks by predicting what the enemy might ban.

>>183152150
ban format is stupid in a game that doesn't have a moba size roster. jager/ash/bandit/blackbeard would never be playable

>>183152223
why not just two band per team

>capitao's arrow hits invisible wall and fires before enemy
>b..b..but we added cases, why are you still complaining?

>>183152223
>>183151793
Dota 2 has 10 bans and 112 heroes

League of Legends has 10 bans and 136 champions

Looks like the optimal ban in siege would be 1 operator each

>>183152223
>>183152150
>>183151793

You could do shit like ban Thatcher or Thermite when defending Snowmobile garage

>>183152368
>hibana removed from game
>rook or mira deleted too
I'm ok with this.

>>183152449
makes the attack twice as hard

>>183152223
>Know the enemy team is going to ban Thermite, Hibana, Ash, Sledge and Buck because they always do this
>Decide not to bother banning Mute and Bandit because LOL they are already almost useless if you aren't bringing the breaching party
>Ban Smoke, Pulse, Mira, Valk and Jager
>Choose Fuze, Glaz, Monty, Blackbeard and Twitch(Or Thatcher)
>Enemy team is left picking people like Rook, Bandit, Castle, Cav and Echo

It'd be very, very interesting to play for a few days

>>183152539
>didn't ban Fuze
>they banned Jager

oh lordy

>>183152368
dota 2/league share heroes for both sides, though, don't they? it's fundamentally different when you have a game where there's attack/defend and a balance to maintain.

>>183152313
capitao's crossbow is so fucking broken it's infuriating, because he is also so much fun (especially his MG)

>>183152539
a post like this makes you realize how unbalanced the defense side is in terms of abilities.

>>183151954
Good joke

>>183152659
DOTA and LOL only have the ban so if there is a severely OP character floating around they'll get banned in 100% of matches, and then all the devs have to do is look at the characters with the highest ban rates and nerf them. It's like not having to put any work into your job or listening to the community.

>a post like this makes you realize how unbalanced the defense side is in terms of abilities.
And interestingly enough Defense has always had the more balanced pick rates overall and ATK always just defaults to a few must pick standbys and a few good ones.

>>183152150
>>183152067
Since when are Doc and Frost "the worst" defenders?

Are duplicates possible?
If so, what do they give other than a 'haha sorry'?

>>183152789
Are you talking about +95% Smoke and Valk picks in comp?

>>183153674
you get some renown back
not the full amount but a decent amount back
like since 1 pack is 2500 i think you get something like 2000 back

>>183154182
I was talking more on the overall pickrate that matters to 95% of the community but sure in competitive the balance is slightly flipped so attackers are a bit more spread out pick wise

>>183133298
I noticed people being banned in my games but it seems like a global notification since nobody leaves my game.

Is that correct?

>>183155286
yeah its global, battleeye is constantly banning people for 3 days straight now.

>>183150546
The brazilian teams use him sometimes on small maps with few walkways, especially Oregon.
The pdw has kept its ridiculous spread and trades damages for a insulting amount of bullets.
Jackal allows to win time over drones, which allows more time for the endpush.

>>183154457
What if you didn't spend renown to get a pack? Does it also give you about 2k renown?
Because if so then dupes seem like a good way to reduce the grind for new ops if you don't have the pass.

>>183155359
I get that recently they did a big wave, but are most of the other bans just instant after the system picks you up? That seems like a really easy way to let cheaters know which hacks are being detected and which aren't.

Do you guys think it would be better if the game's operators weren't unique, and wore standard issue clothing and behaved as a uniform, standard team? For instance, all operators might just be members of a SWAT team, with the only unique thing about each member being their customised loadout.

>>183155751
i dont know, i havent gotten a dupe yet
the chance of getting a dupe is pretty low if you never spent real money on anything and even then it wouldnt reduce anything since you'd be losing renown getting one

>>183155803
this was the game in alpha and E3 showcase.
i think the unique operator route was a better choice to give this game longevity and character rather than it be just another shooter.

>>183156070
>To give this game longevity and character rather than it be just another shooter.
This, most people like personalities they can latch onto. Just look at the memes in these generals, there wouldn't be as much if most of the ops were more generic/in-line with each other.
But of course Ubisoft has to shoot itself in the foot and not have the T-Hunt dialogue occur during the main game, which is the MP. Just even in the first 10 seconds after spawn or something, christ.

In all honesty, if instead of a third year of content for Siege they just made a Siege 2 with the intention of truly unfucking the spaghetti code the game currently runs on by just making it a fresh slate would you be in?
This is assuming that all of the current content would carry across and there would be enough significant additions content wise on launch to justify a Siege 2.

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How do you use pump action shotguns properly?

It's easy with the semi action shotguns because you can spam the shit out of everything but I get fucked if I miss with the pump action pimps

>>183156070
>>183156196
Yeah, you're both probably right. I suppose the uniform appeal and functionality theme works better in simulation games, which Siege obviously isn't. I had in mind SWAT 4 when I made that post, which I know is absolutely nothing like Siege, but I liked the uniformity aspect to it, and thought that perhaps it could be applied to this game.

>>183156710
I only do well with shotguns when I rush in madly, in the general direction of the objective. They're best used when deployed against enemies who aren't currently engaged with you.

>>183156725
I get where you're coming from, I can appreciate a game that makes operators as operator as possible, like in SWAT4, but the modern MP FPS market is way different.
For some players strong personalities they can attach themselves to is a massive positive for them in a game, and most big new FPS titles will try to cater for this crowd to some degree. The only games that seem to really be able to roll with pretty blank slates these days is Battlefield and CoD.

>>183156710
Only ever use them on very short distance if possible, corners being your best friends. Otherwise, stay on secondary, like the 11 on Smoke.

>>183156710
step up your flick aim
know when to engage, when to hold a corner and when to bumrush
only engage at ranges where you can atleast down them with the first shot
laser goes on all shotguns, period
start off with hipfire only, ADSing with shotguns without having a feel for their respective range is a bad habit that limits your mobility
identify favorable areas on each map like pillboxes, connectors, and stairs(!!!!) that force people into close range and awkward angles
a lot of the common TIGHT ANGLES, BRUH can be either sprinted across safely or avoided altogether
learn to count rounds, if they're alone and run out you push
every tube fed shotgun can be shot instantly during the reload animation, you only lose leaning while topping off so do it constantly and consciously
if you think someone is in a room shoot a hole into the wall to get intel, then enter through the door and act on it
learn to creep up on people that are engaging you by moving closer one piece of cover at a time when they're not looking
git gud with the pistol if you're not Smoke/Sledge

>>183157241
Yeah, that's a good point. I see how having the operators each being given a unique personality is a big plus for some people, and if that means better sales for a game, it's clearly the better choice for the game's longevity.

What's the fastest renown farming method? Specifically T-Hunt.

>>183157693
Farming is boring, I'd rather just play the game and earn at a standard rate.

>>183157904
I know, but I really need the new operators.

>>183157994
buy them

>>183158247

Unfortunately, no money on me.

>>183157994
>>183157693
>go to filters, turn everything off except Extract Hostage and House. Pick Ash, spawn at Side Street. See where the flare is
>if it's at the docks ahead of you, hostage is in workshop
>if it's by the APC to your left they're in basement
>if you can't see it they're either in dining room or master bedroom, rappell up the wall with the garage doors and dining room window and you will see the ammo box through the wall in the right room.

Make sure you take just over a minute per run or you won't get any renown.

>>183158507

Thanks man. It's gonna take a while, but it's gonna be worth it.

>>183135507
>Joint Ex Competition Special Weekend Playlists
>Week 1
>No Drone Phase

Special playlist including all maps and modes - drone phase timer set to 1 second so round will start immediately upon loading in. Defenders will have to reinforce objectives while attackers are to locate the objective and formulate plans on the fly.

Best of 5 format, 5 minute round timer, randomize objective and spawn picks

>Added Event Challenges
Win 5 Joint Ex Matches
-Award, Joint Ex Week 1 Universal Weapon Skin (just a bland camo pattern)

Don't Touch the Walls - Win 20 Attack rounds without a Thermite or Hibana on your team
-Reward is a Special Uniform for Thermite and Hibana

Open Door Policy
-Win 20 Rounds without a Mute or Bandit on your team
Reward - Special uniform camo for Mute and Bandit

Is it just me or has casual match quality "improved" since you can gain packs? Fuck me, I've seen killholes I haven't seen since launch, Niggas I could run after and knife in the bag suddenly turn around when I break a window or run after them because it seems like I'm suddenly playing against people who actually own headphones.
FUCK in my last match, on def, the last two players ACTUALLY stayed in the room, both covering different entryways instead of running out to "hunt the fucker down"

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>>183160557
I guess people prefer to play casual since the matches are shorter and more efficient for pack farming.

anyone on the ps4 having the fucking issue of being connected to the wrong data center? is there a way to fix this shit?

Ah fuck my rank's gone :(((((

>>183161029
no because im not a console peasent

has there ever been any S.A.T challenges? ive noticed challenges for every CTU except for them

>>183162202
fuck off weeaboo

>>183162534
shut up nigger

>>183157309
Yeah but some secondaries are shitty like the D-50 and then I gotta choose if I want to hit nothing or barely hit it

>>183133513
>>183133886
>>183133698
honestly how are these people even that stupid? if i did that i'd maybe double or triple the normal situation reward but these people got too greedy and now they're getting their just desserts

>>183135507
>>183135615
>>183135735
sounds good. now start spamming their twatter feed with this

why does ubi hate this game so much
why wont they fix it

FIX THE FUCKING RANKING SYSTEM WHY AM I BEING RANKED DOWN FOR GAMES I COULDNT WIN CAUSE 2 PEOPLE LEFT FUCK OFF UBISOFT FIX YOUR FUCKING GAME

>>183163970
l2carry shitter

>>183163193
I don't know if you are memeing on me anon but thank you

>not autistic/shit enough to feel the need to play jager
>not enough of a faggot to play bandit
>too cool to play cav
feels bad

>>183162816
The only decent shotguns are british and german anyway for pumpactions.
As for semi, they are all relatively decent, with the SAT one being the bad exception.

>>183161029
>tfw cant refund on ps4 and now im stuck with this unplayable piece of shit game because of this error

thanks ubisoft

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>Haven't played Siege in months due to busted PC
>Finally get back to it today
>1vX clutches all day
It's like my skill at this game is inversely proportional to how often I play it. Spooky.

>>183164780
Isn't the Super Nova a pump action shotgun? Sure that it has that weird glitch when you can shoot twice without pumping it but it remains pump action

How to git gud with pistols?

I saw a Macie Jay video and he literally just massacred the team with long range headshot pistols.

requesting smokes face on this
https://youtu.be/gZrS5VOsc50?t=44

>>183164780
>>183165146
General shotgun tier list:

Good pumps:
SAS, GSG9
Meh pumps:
GIGN
Bad pumps:
SAT, GEO(The primary one is bad. Secondary is okay for what it is.)

Good semis:
JTF2, SEALS, BOPE
Meh semis:
Spetz
Bad semis:
FBI

>>183164554
I dont want to carry I want to play with people my own skill level but everyone is fucking retarded in this game

>>183165635
Either get really good at onetapping (since with most pistols, you completely lose your sight picture after you pull the trigger, and any follow-ups are gonna be blind spam or very slow to come), or get really fucking lucky.

>>183166193
>long range murder cannon that is the frog shotgun
>meh
the only reason nobody uses it is because of the famas on atk and 3 armor-only on def
as a weapon alone it's on par with sas and gsg shotgun, trading firerate for insane range

>>183147161
>getting mad about unboxing sunny D jager

>>183166193
I never used the GIGN shotgun, I'll try it next time. I found the M4 shotgun good for Pulse, but that probably matters on map and position

>>183165635
Bullet comes out just above irons
those are also compilation clips, macie gets dunked a fair bit as shield ops but he plays like 12hours a day.

Why the fuck is bank so god damn unplayable? Literally every match is some fagmaster in plat throwing a valk cam on the exploit spot turning every attack round into vietnam.

>people are actually trying in casual now
not sure if this is a good or bad thing

>>183166193
the frog shotgun is probably the best shotgun in the game, are you retarded anon?
it doesnt see use because twitch has the best AR in the game and the 3 fats have top SMGs with ACOGs
only reason you see the SAS shotty is because smoke already has a better smg as a secondary and theres no reason to use the FMG9 over it
870 doesnt see use outside meme recuit rushes in casual aswell

>>183165635
hipfire if you can. if you have to ads, pray it actually fucking kills them

>>183166193
>good semis
>seals
LOL fuck no.
especially not with the deagle as a secondary.

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>>183166193
I mostly agree, except the french and and fbi one. FBI is meh tier in my eyes and the french is unique in its range capacity given you a better chance to down someone in one shot.
Just make sure to ads for it.
Play Rook with it on Bank downstairs or Oregon. Very fun shotty.

>>183166193
>>183166612
>>183166347
Y'all get a reality check. The GIGN shotgun is basically just the SAS shotgun but it cycles slower. If you don't get that mythical oneshot with it, you're probably dead.

>>183166193
>shotgun tier list
throw them all in the garbage, except for the SAS one on smoke and the spas 15 on cav

>>183166747
Hey, you know how Frost's Super90 is actually pretty good at medium range if you ADS?
The Spas12 is the same way, except it has a better fire rate. Scope, pop pop, drop.

>>183166827
>If you don't get that mythical oneshot with it, you're probably dead.
engaging at excessive range with no cover to survive until the 2nd shot loads isn't the fault of the shotgun, anon

>starting to main crutchbeard
>rapidly increasing k/d

pee pee poo poo!!

>>183164713
jäger lately has become an operator i pick when i'm semi-tilted to pick myself up again and strangely enough it works ridiculously well.

>>183167496
>play crutchbeard
>activate crutch shield
>lock down an entire area of the objective the whole round and kill 3 people going through it
fucking hell this is easy

>>183166420
>bullet comes above the irons

So I am the sights at the neck?

>>183144234
My first 4 were shitty velvet shell and skull rain headgear

>>183169017
I got that eyepatch glaz headgear which I can safetly say is the luckiest thing that has ever happened to me

>>183144234
i got 2 headgears and 1 weapskin so far

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>get legendary
>it looks so bad it's not even worth equipping as an "im richr than u lol" skin.
back to tiger stripes I guess.

So how's the chance calculated? Is the percentage litterally your number, the servers rolls /random 100 and if it falls below "your" number you get something? that ain't bad desu.

>>183169387
you get 2% more chance per win 1.5% more per loss
server only rolls if you win, if you do win your chances go back down to 2%

>>183166809
whats the mechanism for the thing that brings up the shell into the chamber? it doesn't look like it's connected to anything and just seems to know when to raise up the shell

>play BB
>shield shatters from any single bullet
>enemy plays BB
>shield still intact after 2 magazine

>>183169092
So far my only glaz pull has been the stupid Kameha skin for his gun. Also got a cheap skin for Twitch's 417

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>survived the banwave this long
I'm surprised by this, I thought for sure I'd be banned now.
Am I in the clear? Personally, I think it's still likely I'll be banned in the next few days, at most.

>>183169524
Wait you only roll on a win? Bummer, but you get chance even if you lose right?

>>183135507
>Poland has expressed disasisfaction
>Nobody gives a fuck
ftfy

>>183170269
yes. 1.5%+ for a loss and 2.0%+ for a win.

>>183138997
Here's hoping for smug norwegians in Y3

>>183170370
Meh, but anyway if it's literally a /random 100 roll every time you win that's still breddy gud. I mean in fucking DotA 2 you play literally hundreds of hours and get god damn fucking nothing, with people reporting playing 70 games and not getting shit, (mind you dota games can last between 20min at the quickest to 60min at the higher end)

>>183170764
Eh, at least in Dota you can buy most of the stuff for pennies on the community market.

But then again, anything even remotely rare costs "black market organ" levels of money.

The fashionable cyberwarrior's life is truly suffering in this day and age.

>>183169628
its the half of the pump action where you start moving the slide back foward. It's not animated in that .gif

>>183172294
I should also point out, its very hard too see, theres a small protrusion underneath the bolt that moves down when everything slides back, then when it comes foward it hits the door which raises the shell. You can see it reset right as the bottom of the bolt is visible.

>>183169628
As the bolt travels forward, it engages the breech bolt latch, which is attached to the rear of the shell carrier. This causes the front of the shell carrier to move upwards, chambering he next round.
Note that this is the Benelli inertial system, used in the FBI's and Frost's shotguns. The source for that animation is this promotional video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UOSB8mwwlQ

20 dollars for all year 1 ops right?

>>183171897
It is true. I could probably buy a decent game if I sold all my DotA 2 stuff, but then again I dumped 201.26USD on DotA 2.

But it is a pain in the ass, because you do end up playing literally HUNDREDS of hours for 0-(MAYBE)1 Item and it's usually some Morphling "hey I can get 3cents for this" stuff.

>>183144486
fastest renown is speed running Terrorist hunt, if you can find a good group to replay hostage or classic over and over

really thought just save your sanity and play casual or ranked, the OPs will come with time

South americans got their own servers right?
Why do these awful human beings appear on US servers so fucking frequently?
I wouldn't be half as upset if they actually used reinforcements or gadgets before running off to instantly die while spawnpeeking.

>>183144234
I got the chainmail twitch hat
Too bad I already have it, so they just gave me 2.7k renown

>>183173885
Because ping is cheating and do you expect jungleniggers to do anything other than act like niggers?

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>decide to pull a hotline miami and go full on anal aggressive
>It actually works and I get 4 kills that round
That was the highlight of my solo q. experience

>>183173980
Yeah, honestly, the duplicate renown refund is borderline insulting.

Nothing like rolling up a duplicate legendary, then getting barely enough renown to buy even the shittiest uncommon.

At least in OW, you always get enough to get one item from the previous tier...

>>183174031
I expect ubisoft to fucking fix this shit already.
Fucks sake, keep ping abusers to casual if you want people cross continents to play together.

>tfw like 1000 people mustve been banned in the past 2 days

>>183176374
Over 3000 actually.
Might have hitted 4k since epi wrote on leddit

>>183177470
source for the over 3000?

I know this sounds dumb but why make the bans so public?
I get that it's probably to make an example of people but it gets a bit obnoxious after a while.

>>183178258
its probably just to remind people that if they hack they will get found and banned

>>183177721
The reddit thread talking about the banwave and why Macie got unbanned had Epi respond that around 100 of the banned people were false positives while the other 3k were proper bans where BE had properly worked.

>>183178581
kek, fucking retards

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Should I buy Rising Storm 2 or spend the money on DLC operators?

>>183178884
It was Schadenfreude of the most exquisite quality upon reading it.

>>183179003
rising storm 2 is a glitchy mess that really isnt worth it at the moment

>>183179250
look let's be honest, so is siege
I'm torn because RS2 is a mess, but giving ubijew more money for a full priced game after the absolute shitfest that was op health instead of just saving renown is even worse since at least RS2 is a full game

>>183179621
Dont buy RS2 or dlc then you nonce

>>183179003
Take the rainbow pill

>>183179772
the guy asked what to spend his money on and gave two choices, "not spending" wasn't an option presented

>>183180593
try and stop me faggot

>>183174441
you should try playing ash. shit works every time

>>183178884
>>183179046
as hilarious as it is, you have to keep in mind thats 3000 people out of our playerbase.
rip queue times

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>faggot on team spams ez after every round
>immediately tries to kick a new player that joined on 2-2 match point
>upon it failing he downs everyone on our team, him and last guy double down and the twitch drone gets a pregame ace. it was actually a 4k because I was shot first and it outright killed me but I'll count it, fuck it.

>>183136732
>>183137304

Simply take Recruit away after Level 20.

If people have not bought any operators by then, they can only do offline Thunt.

Instead of going for Recruit for afk players just pick some random operator that isn't yet picked. Maybe to make it interesting, even allow Ops that the player hasn't yet unlocked to incentivize them to grind more.

>>183181630
>Maybe to make it interesting, even allow Ops that the player hasn't yet unlocked to incentivize them to grind more.
>people intentionally afk'ing then leaving if they dont get something they want
>making match loading times even worse

>>183181508
>playing casual

>>183136645
>>183135615
>muh custom recruit
is dumb, but adding stuff like imact nades (or nade, as it were, since they have one less of everything) which are just normal gadgets and finally giving the defense recruit two reinforces so you don't invariably screw over your whole team instead of just yourself would be swell