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i hope i didn't fuck it edition

Previous thread: >>182726650

>Updated Season 2 Info: Character and Map details
https://pastebin.com/4qcpMRZK

>New players:
http://pastebin.com/55KZTiUK

>Multiple hero video guides
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLkiUfT_3_4AnTBKwzZQO7-fDgKDzwPRPr

>Wikis:
http://forhonor.wikia.com
http://forhonor.gamepedia.com/For_Honor_Wiki

>Character damage values
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wwr17AtTDFU3BZY_81axLVMKdHdNZuV0wGOb589VKgc/edit#gid=0

>Gear modifier values
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mPLuxn-bPMwxOotsIL8lM-x0jP101dIbUnMD1ten7ik/edit#gid=154396609

>Gear appearances
http://alfalis.de/For_Fashion/

>Friends list sign up Doc:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSe46v1-5y3m5IbPVaP1NRaEjU7tO3YWE_fZkR4dQ5C8nBwI5Q/viewform?c=0&w=1

>For those that have signed up:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1b8fuKwrDWqaprZE9mRhDtgDRqkZHIabBfum-jHumLKw/edit#gid=943442915

>War of Factions:
https://forhonor.ubisoft.com/game/en-us/war-of-factions/

>PVP Stat Tracker:
https://fhtracker.com/

>Story mode collectibles:
http://gameranx.com/features/id/93082/article/for-honor-all-knights-campaign-collectibles-breakables-observables/
http://gameranx.com/features/id/93191/article/for-honor-all-vikings-campaign-collectibles-breakables-observables/
http://gameranx.com/features/id/93397/article/for-honor-all-samurai-campaign-collectibles-breakables-observables/
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share and r8 your cute mains
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>>182941083
here's the backside
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>>182941083
i'm sorry i lied to you guys, i'm actually maining LB right now but i don't consider his fashion to be ready yet so i posted my previous main.
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>>182941297
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>one guy doing duels
>ragequits on me
>can't find a single match on dominion
is this how it ends?
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why does ubishit feel the need to keep this game as a steaming pile of dogshit when they could easily fix it?
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>>182941083
Here's my LAW
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i need a new main 5 decides
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>>182942008
Sensei kensei
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>>182942008
What's your actual main you dingus ?
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>>182942081
Lawbringer
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>>182942008
Kensei
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>>182942008
femsei
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>>182942008
kensei
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>>182942008
Shugoki
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>>182941083
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>>182942008
FUCKING KENSEI
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>>182942575
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>>182942575
>old jap of fundamentals
i'm ok with this
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What's warden's best oos punish? top heavy or are the 2 side heavies still possible? If so how do I do it?
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Why does Cent's pin go through revenge?
if his pin didn't the game would be playable in 4v4s
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>>182942575
HOLY CHRIST, EVERY FUCKING TIME
K E K
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>>182943317
I believe if you parry someone you can side heavy then top heavy. Other than that I think it's only a top heavy.
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If Gladiator doesn't get a Murmillo helmet, I'm fire-bombing Ubisoft's offices.
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>>182943778
Lawbringer has a Murmillo helmet. Gladiator will probably only get masks that say "I am a huge faggot" and an emote that is just him screeching and pulling on his nipples. Also, all his attacks will be unblockable and he will cost 60k steel at release.
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Do you guys have any ideas for game modes you wish they'd put in?
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>>182944247
duel mode where you dont get to choose what hero you play
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>>182944247
Some kind of wave defence mode where you can spend your excess salvage to decorate your fortress/keep would have been nice. A more fleshed out, RPG-like singleplayer story mode. Maybe just a flat out MOBA mode where you have to push lanes and stuff.

>>182944291
This too.
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>>182944247
An objective mode where 'Attacker/Defender' means more than just orange/blue guys.
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>>182944379
That mission in the knight campaign would have made a great gamemode, don't know why they havent just made that a gamemode
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>>182944247
> Free for all arena (Deathmatch, King of the Hill etc ...
> Siege mode where you attack or defend objectifs and map change based on that ALA Chivalry, with missions during the game (VIP escort, zone capture, CTF etc ...)
>Hold the line against serie of bots become more and more cunning
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>>182944247
animal fights, some really strong animals like wolfs and bears and maybe more exotic ones like tigers, elephants and gorillas. you can see an elephant in one of the for honor's trailers so they might add animals to the game.
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>>182945437
The elephant is in the campaign and is a really dull fight.
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>>182945502
aah, oh sorry bout that.
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Can I get one fucking team that doesn't go out of their way to hit me out of every single action the entire game?
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>Get into a teamfight, 3v3
>Enemy team all gets Revenge incredibly fast
>I don't get revenge once during the whole encounter despite being outnumbered at the end and having +revenge gear

What the fuck is this
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>>182944247
Maybe a chess mode.
LB as rook, nobu as queen, minions as pawns etc. Just some bullshit minigame that everyone would get mad at.
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trying a new zerker style, is it trash
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>>182947273
>Spikes
Salvage this shit
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>tfw just got raped by a team of 4 kenseis in skirmish

our shinobi just ran around collecting buffs the whole game but never used them to fucking fight anyone
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>>182947356
b-but everyone else has spikes
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>>182947567
If everyone else jumped off a bridge would you do the same, Jimmy? Run along now.
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>>182946548
King = Cross/Stigandr/Ayu
Queen = The Warden/The Raider/The Orochi
Knight = Mercy/Helvar/Momiji
Rook = Stone/Runa/Okuma
Bishop = Captain
Pawn = Soldier

Whaddya think?
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>>182948168
>king not DAUBENY
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>>182948275
>putting that much value on a pre-nerf Warden afraid of fighting a pre-buff Lawbringer
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Uh oh. I'm not sure but I think I found a bug. I was playing Nobushi against a Shugoki and I feinted a top heavy after doing a dashing top light against him. He tried to grab me but it didn't go through and he seemed to get hit by the heavy anyway.
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OH MY GOD WHAT THE FUCK DID THEY DO TO KENSEI????? still want the helmet tho
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>>182948461
It makes sense. He can't fight for shit, he's up to his eyeballs in gold armour so he's obviously rich and he's very valuable as he's at least lord of a Duchy if he's heading the command of a fort.
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>>182948538
>campaign
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>>182948539
Pretty sure his armor is bronze, not gold
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>>182948539
I'll admit, he's does fit the 'useless, but superficially important' theme of a King piece, but I like the idea of the faction leaders being the most important pieces, with the main player characters being the most powerful.
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>>182948590
Not him but I played it for the unlock.
It's really not that bad.
Nothing impressive, but it's not bad.
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>>182948590
gotta get them engravings and emblem parts.
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>>182948665
You get what I mean though. It's not so much for function as it is to show off his wealth and status.
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like even the waifubait characters looked really gritty and ugly, so why the fuck there is this weird fucking lolimoeshit character fighing shugokis?
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>>182948726
Bronze shows off his wealth and status?
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>>182948539
gold is practically worthless in that world, steel is the valuable metal.
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>>182948891
It looks flashier than steel
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>>182948813
How in the hell is Ayu "lolimoeshit"?

>>182948891
S'more expensive and shiny than steel, I guess
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>>182948934
those eyes look loli as fuck (in my image that is)
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>>182948590

It's a really pretty campaign.
Also not at least using engravings you only get through playing SP on realistic makes you look like a scrublord lmao.
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>>182949028
Do you even know what a loli is?
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>>182948934
Has anyone ever managed to hack into some model viewer or something that'd let them see all the characters faces behind their helmets and masks?
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>>182949237
Yes, what you can't see isn't modelled
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>>182949294
Dang.
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>you get a good team against 3 centurions and a raider on dom
>about to win
>one of the cents rq's
>disconnects you

I'm going to kill myself
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I CAN FEEL THE CONQ OVER TAKING ME
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>>182941083
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>"I-I-I'm one of the good raiders!"
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>>182941083
EDGEKREW ASSEMBLE. NOTHIN' PERSONNEL, KIDDO. Shoulda got hellfire instead of blowing 10k on darkness effects, but whatever. It's suitably edgy.
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>>182950029
Looks like a JoJo
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>>182950029
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>>182950229
Spikes on spikes under spikes next to spikes

Get studs at least for the love of God
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Why is this game so fucking shit? Is everyone at ubisoft retarded or something?

How the hell does it make any sense for the peacekeeper to lose all stamina after 2 heavys or 4 lights? That's just retarded especially considering how broken classes like warlord and centurion never run out of stamina.

How the hell does it make any sense for Raiders stampede charge to kill an enemies stamina? So are you telling me that if I grabbed a guy and started carrying him around he'd lose all stamina while I kept all of mine? That's fucking retarded. If it wasn't for me having no time to play story games I wouldn't bother with this shit.
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>>182950121

If you care about raider you should spam that shit nonstop to make people cry so much that Ubi gives it priority.
But the fact that this move made it in after what happened with the Shugoki charge took the last bit of hope out of me that Ubi ever understood what the problem is. It will just return in some other form later on.

But hey at least enemy sounds were altered because people wanted that since day 1 lol
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>>182950306
you are in on the jojoke
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>>182950563
They stated the day the patch came out they intend to fix it. Making people cry about it is pointless.
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>>182950614
Then why did they patch it in in the first place? People already complained about it before the patch was out.
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>>182950472
More spikes = more edge.
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>>182950565
I've never watched JoJo
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Just found out you can guard break and throw the pots in the campaign.
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>>182950915
amazing
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>fight cent warlord in brawl
>finish the match
>different cent warlord couple
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>>182950915
Huh. You really can.
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>>182950509
>pk
>calls centurion OP
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daily reminder that if you play warden peacekeeper or orochi you have no worth as a human being and would be better off with several large shards of glass in your throat
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>>182951461
what do you even play?
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>>182951513
>playing games
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>>182951513
>Not just going AFK as Nobushi
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Why are most gear stats of people not visible to me?
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>>182941083

Have some Kensei
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>>182952516
I like your look, though the spikes are a bit much on the armour.
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>>182952516
>ayus ugly ass brother
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>global order
>get X assists in brawl

would it defeat the honorfags?
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>>182954889
No, all they have to do is tap an enemy fighting an alley and they would still get the assist
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>>182954889
No, they'll say that the game devs are dishonorable
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>Persian clans
lol
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Goodnight /fhg/
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>open for honor video
>sabaton plays
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>>182955504
>Open For Honor video
>FOR HONOR IS A GONER GUYS
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Does the unlock """"tech"""" currently exist on console? Just fought this one Cent two games in a row and never once managed to parry his unblockable no matter what timing I used.
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>>182956004
Yeah, a raider unlocked his zone to me 15 times. Starts off with him stun tap away from me then immediately coming forward to me with a zone that's fast and even unparrayble
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>>182956236
Didn't they patch that shit already?

Feel like you guys are talking shit
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>>182956004
Same anon, but did he throw you to the wall?
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>>182956334
no, the devs have refused to fix the unlock exploit yet
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Anyone else feel like the game has "changed" since they removed the time skip/lag correction thing last patch? Parrying and blocking 500ms lights feels a lot fucking harder on PC. I'll do what I usually do to parry, but it'll often just straight up miss and I'll get hit without even starting a heavy animation?
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>>182956340
Only a few times, a lot of it was the usual 'whif heavy>unblockable' and no matter what kind of timing I used, he hit me with a total of like 12 fucking unblockables over the course of those two matches. Even if I just sucked, I still should've managed to parry at least fucking one of them. The guy was Rep10 if that matters.
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>>182956619
Those few times = not being able to block it, especially on console. (But it just may be confirmed) hopefully PC anons can give some insight
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>>182956463
No one I fight seems to have any difficulty parrying anything I do, maybe it's just you, anon

:^)
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>>182956793
No, I know that. Like I said, the majority of it was just him doing the usual combos and me getting fucked every time. I was parrying other people in the matches just fine too, but that faggot would just ignore my parry every single time without fail, no matter the context.
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>>182956842
I dunno, man. I played PK and Valk against a few people and I kept getting that weird thing where the enemy "blocks" your attack, but it goes through anyway. A few people I have seen say Warden's Crushing Counter is harder to get off, too. One of these guys was a Rep 27 Warden main, so I kinda trust what he was saying.
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how the fuck do i git gud with shugo
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>>182957794
Every time you see a red indicator of any kind, use a light or heavy at random. In 4v4, just Demon's Embrace people who seem distracted.
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>>182957794
light if you see them guardbreaking

guard break if you see them doing anything else

Shugoki is terribly designed
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>Reddit is bitching about Raider now

I hate these plebs so fucking much.
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>>182957794
Trade with lights, but realize that you have passive hyper armor that regenerates. Parry lights or heavys for a free GB, if near a wall? Demons embrace after a GB and push to it. Make use of the golf swing if your being pressured, also your zone is useless for damage but can get you near when you cancel after the first swing. Remember to head butt when you have more stamina then them.
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>>182958049
They are not wrong
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>>182958049
Raider main spotted

inb4 "dodge the charge"
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>>182958049
>literally just this general but weeks behind
how long before they start screaming about feet
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>>182958149
No but they were the ones lobbying hard for his buffs
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>>182958149
>>182958202
I am more annoyed that they collectively cryholed for months about Raider not being OP enough, and now they are collectively cryholing about him being too OP and all the Raider mains are protecting it. He was already too strong with the unblockable into Stunning Tap thing, the fuckers at Reddit were just too dumb to see it. Maybe Ubisoft should just start buffing everyone else instead of nerfing Raider.

>>182958223
This exactly.
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>>182958049
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>>182958223
>>182958330
>One of the biggest websites on the net is one person
Hm.....
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>>182958349
It's time boys
They found something new to circlejerk about
They'll stop crying about Centurion
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>>182958349
Gross
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>>182958409
>Reddit
>Not a near perfect hive of samethink lead by cocksucking retards who do exactly as they are told by the rest of the hivemind

>>182958520
Cent was always purely based around ganking and was absolutely hopeless at 1v1 against a lot of classes. I don't see nearly as many of them now that multiple Centurions can't pin one person.
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>>182958409
>hey guys I'm the mod!
>whatdaya mean you guys don't like unlock tech talk and a FAQ on how to do it?
>well get banned then you toxic person
Yeah sure may not be one person but that samethink through removing users and keeping the ones allowed sure does influence some things.
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>>182958409

>>182958579
>>182958728
Pretty much this. It might as well be one person when anyone with a dissenting opinion gets all their posts axed.
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>>182958898
I don't know anon, you sound like a toxic person who's not grateful.
Maybe I should talk to the mods about your behavior..
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Who should be my new main? Warlord or kensei
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>>182959124
Ken
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>>182959124
Warsei
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>>182959124
>Who should be my new main?
>The bringer of hellfire, destroyer of worlds, obliterator of hope and consumer of tears
>Or
>Kensei
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>>182959124
If you are even considering maining Kensei over Warlord its Kensei
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>>182959193
>Who should be my new main?
>Statistically the best hero in the game
>Or
>kensei
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>>182959124
do you want to actually play the game or not? If you don't, then you pick warlord
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Did you guys remember to help out your teammates in dominion today!?
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>>182959193
Yeah I guess you're right Anon.
I'll just pick kensei
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>>182959968
Everything about this image is terrible
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>>182959968
They didn't.
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>>182959968
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>>182959968
>Fighting on a point against 3 enemies
>Allies are nowhere to be seen
>Enemy team in control of two points
>Allies don't capture either of them somehow while I hold A alone for 2 minutes

It doesn't really annoy me in For Honor, but man I forgot how useless your average person in a multiplayer game is. 90% of people are just out to get kills, and premades are unstoppable slaughter machines.

>One (preferably the best player) player holds base point, boosting it to ensure a decent point income
>Other 3 players run around ganking and capturing, occasionally returning back to base point to defend it when it gets overwhelmed

It's nearly impossible to lose like this.
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>>182959968
NOOOOOOO FEMZERK IS A LESBO!!! SHE'S SUPPOSED TO BE WITH EITHER RAIDRESS OR FEMCONQ!!!! FUCKING DELET THIS NOOOOOOW!!!
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>>182960731
I used to wonder why the devs would listen to the subreddit but not even glance at us
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>>182960910
Could they give Orochi a banner
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>tfw there will never be a smol male knight to be raped by viking women as
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>>182960910
Because 4chin has a bad reputation
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>>182960910
Yeah, it's not like the big bold letters on the website were a signal before even attempting to search the catalog....
>yeah let's take our fucking tips and advice from a goddamn image board site >known for kooky and illegal shit back in the day.
> And still post shitty election memes and the supposed racist frog....
>that'll be great to hear on the next warriors den...
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>>182961089
>>182961115
Half the website is full of redditors anyway so it hardly makes a difference.
It's just typical Ubisoft not knowing a thing about anything. Easier to cater to the devil they know.
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>>182961085
I'm with you there man. Such a shame, who'd be first? The Raideress or Valk?
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>>182961187
>Half
anon you're aware 95% of real users of 4chan left by 2011 right
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Is it just me or does this game get worse with every update?

It seems like every patch only does three things;
>brutally nerf a mid-tier character (eg. Conqueror, Shugoki, Warden)
>fail to fix major issues (turtle meta, unlock exploits)
>introduce some new broken shit (raider stunning tap spam, raider charge, revenge popping in every duel)

More characters were viable and the game was more balanced at release than now.
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>>182961381

1v1 fags ruined the game to be honest
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>>182961373
Exactly what does it mean to be a "real user" of 4chan?

A-am I not real..?
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>>182961381
>More characters were viable and the game was more balanced at release than now.

No, you just thought more characters were viable. Valkyrie, lawbringer, Kensei and Berserker were even worse than they are now. Raider was actually low tier.

The top used to be Conqueror (who was even back then, just a worse version of Warlord), Warlord, Peacekeeper and Shugoki. You could argue that's one more character than now, but when it's because of Oni Charge and completely unpunishable shield bash, that's a pretty stupid argument to make.
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>>182961373
Yeah, either died or left to more darker pastures, us new fags keep this palace annoying and silly so there's that.
Reminds me of that picture floating around on /a/ with an anime girl growing up more depressed as the shit gets outta hand and the climax of the election bringing in more shit.
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>>182961578
considering you probably started going here after 2013 yes you're fake
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>>182961373
I was being extremely generous.
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>>182961578
Being here since the beggining when illegal shit was posted willy nilly. Right now you're in the patched version of the site....
(Only know this from stories told and old archive links or screenshots)
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>>182961373
>Started browsing in 2007 or so
>Pretty much only browse /vg/ for For Honor general now
>Can't stand the other boards and blatant newfags
>Can barely stand these generals sometimes

I have wasted my fucking love.
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The game was honestly balanced pretty well in 4v4
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>>182961639
>more characters were viable
>nuh-uh only one more character was viable that doesn't count
What did he mean by this?
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>>182959968

I conq'd their enemies from the side with a shield bash a few times.
Also GB'd someone the moment Zerker landed the top heavy finisher so the guy wasn't able to block it but that was unintentional.
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>kill cent
>he disconnects
Is this poetry?
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>>182962845
Jupiters cock?
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That anon who said they released Raiders charge knowing it was busted so they'd stop complaining about Cent for a week or two was correct.
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>>182963325
>implying that anon wasn't Roman..
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I started playing warlord and I'm trash. What am I even supposed to do apart from headbutts and ledging anons
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>>182963390
I legit think Romans a hack
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>>182963498
Think of anything from another hero's kit. Warlord can do that.
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>>182963759
Anon don't he's coming for you now
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>>182963759
He may be, but this meme of him really grew on me. Don't care if it's forced, just too fun in this silly general.
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>Roman will never lock you in his dungeon and scream french obscenities at you
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>>182963759
Memes aside he probably is
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>as a Law fighting another Law, if I attack I lose
>the other guy doesn't even have to parry, just use shove on block for safe damage or top light whenever I shove

Why is this allowed?
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>>182964415
Cuz shove looks cool
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>>182964415
playing a LB mirror or against a conq as law is the worst experience in this game
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>>182963759
now you've done it, not only will he have your head mounted on his wall for the next dev stream, he will also buff warlord just to spite you in the afterlife
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>>182965385
Bring it on maybe I'll show him what good cosemetic items look like
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So I'm trying to play Zerk and it seems to say that he can infinitely chain lights, yet I don't seem to be able to chain lights at all. What gives?
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>>182966371
Get back to king kais planet and train some more. Once you get the consistency down, it's all chained from there.
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>My team has two people who have 0 overall Rep
>Enemy team is an infamous 4 man premade from my region

Am I meant to quit matches like this?
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>>182967175
Yes
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>>182964415
Learn to tell when he going for gb or light after his shove, the light indicator gives you enough time to dodge if you just wait for it and don't react on reflex.
It's as hard as parrying or deflecting, probably harder but you can do it, his damage isn't free.
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>>182968031
What if they start throwing in heavies to catch you when you start dodging the lights on reaction?
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>>182968189
Like I said it's about resisting the urge to dodge on reflex and wait for the very last moment to act, I'm not gonna lie, I've been hit with heavies this way myself many times, but if you're very patient and ignore relflexes you can do it 100% it's just like I said, really fucking difficult.
Once you've seen it enough you'll know his heavy startup animation from his light instantly.
If you have a friend with patience get them to practise with you, just ask them to shove and mix up their follow ups.
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>>182964415
As a law main myself, the laws that only shove on block are really easy to fight, mostly because they're braindead and never parry.

I can just heavy attack them and hit them with a follow up light, they always shove after the heavy and the light always connects. For some reason this light staggers them, bypassing the super armor even though you still get shoved, so they can't follow up.
The vast majority never figure out that they should wait to shove on the light attack or better yet parry it, they just mindlessly shove while getting chipped to death.
It's not exactly what I'd call fun, but it's a solution to fighting the retarded ones.
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I like to think that warlord is Valk's older lazy but more successful brother
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>>182974651
i like to think that valk is either his wife or daughter.
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i think Purrf3ctKatz is in love with me.
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So I've mastered
>Warden
>Orochi
>Conquerer

Who is next my dudes?
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>>182975120
Looks like she has a beard
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>>182975626
Zerk
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>>182975120
Nah, softbabe and *shrug* are the top tier not waifus.
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>>182977783
Bot waifus*
Fuck my spelling man
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>>182967175
Smiley face squad?
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>>182974935
Why not both?
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Reminder that the objectively best Executions are the ones that have a from-behind animation.
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How shit is warden now after the nerfs.
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>>182980804
Can you choke from behind with Lb? Haven't got the chance to kill anyone from behind.
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>>182980840
Pretty Garbo all around, somewhat manageable on console due 30fps. On PC? Might as well go play Law, PK, Conq(you can win but it'll be a hassle) or Cent if your a knight guy
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This game is unfixable and will die after season 3. Prove me wrong.
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>>182980840
He's basically a shit Orochi now.
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>>182981618
Defensive meta will talked about to high heaven this Thursday, even then console still sticks around because another 30fps game doesn't hurt on their eyes. Even if this game fails to live on a PC it still floats do to Console. Season 3 is inevitable and it will still live after the season starts
Connections is still an issue but that have never driven away the main stay player base.
Now quit trying to argue with like 33 posters here and go open a new tab and make the mordhau general this world deserves!!
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>>182980840
Top lights get parried, zones get blocked, shoulder bash gets read and gb, hit out of or rolled out of.
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>>182981941
>fix defensive meta
>PK is now unstoppable
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>>182981941
They need to address unlock tech.
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>>182982269
We all know they fucking won't until "publeek"(I think that's how the accent goes) test #3 or 4 in like December anons......;_;
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>>182982123
I think all of the assassins will be stronger if they fix the defensive meta.
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>>182968189
dodge backwards

>>182970924
this
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>>182982123
More like everyone is viable but it just comes down to who's the fastest at attacking first.
>but muh PK?!
Still depends on who strikes and dodges which would be neat to see.
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>>182980804
The best of these is Valk the Impaler.
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>>182983112
>PK has the fastest attacks in the game
>even in a game with near perfect defense her offense is so fast it's still effective
>but no all characters will be viable after defense is nerfed
Uh huh. I hope you got some steel for a post that retarded.
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>>182983328
PKs only viable due to bugs
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>>182983649
kek
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>>182970924
This.
Honestly it's still a pretty dumb matchup for boiling down to this shit, but this anon's tips will help you out a bunch.
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>>182980804
Conq's new exec can do this too. It's pretty satisfying seeing them squirm when the flail hits them right in the chest instead of in the back.
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>>182981941
It amazes me how many people play on console version of this game. It's honestly utter garbage. It has all of the same UNREASONABLE issues that PC has, like connection, matchmaking, etc. but also even more; It's choppy as all fuck, you see less than half of the animation PC players do. On top of that you can't even text chat in-game. Who the fuck actually plays this garbage on console outside of the handful of degenerates that wasted their time on dark souls pvp.
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>>182984680
More then 4,000 people on PC that's for sure.
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>>182984885
Madness.
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>>182984680
People that play for one/two hours a day with friends.

>>182984885
Going by the duel event over 10k people still play on Pc. Unless Ubi was fucking with he numbers.
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>>182985315
I'll admit, that was a good and somewhat odd number for you guys. Still claiming that people only play for 1 or 2 hours is like claiming PC numbers were rigged or that everyone completed the order and just uninstalled again.
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Greetings /fhg/
Just got back from Mordhau's kickstarter page. This image might be old news, but as you can see GLOVE HAS BEEN THROWN DOWN.
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>>182985517
>everyone completed the order and just uninstalled again.
Bet it was a bunch of Ubisoft employee accounts.
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>>182985706
These guys are so obsessed with For Honor instead of being their own thing.
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>>182985706
>still hasn't made the game
>still hasn't posted the general
>still comes here for nothing of value
It's almost like you guys don't want the vg crowd...
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>>182986072
They should really "get obsessed" with putting some time into developing their game outside of gary's mod desu.
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>>182983142
So true.
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So how does a medieval knight know what a skateboard is?
How does a samurai know what golf is?
How does a japanese peasant woman know what pool is?
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>>182986448
>>182986072
why are you guys STILL so mad ?
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>>182987168
Nobushi is not a peasant
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>>182985706
Too bad it's a child-sized glove, buttoned to a sleeve. This is also one of their claims:
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>>182987356
>citation needed
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>>182987168
Basically in For Honor it's currently 2017
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>>182987486
Do all the civilians have tech at the current level, and all warfare is done through ritual medieval-era hand to hand combat on old historical grounds?

Sounds neat.
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>>182987416
...A "Mitten," if you will. It's pretty realistic-seeming if you're 12 and primarily play CS.
>fights look believable
>Ballerinas and circus performers are replaced by carefully designed combat mechanics
This is a snippy, underhanded way to cover up that your FPS models can't be made to have nice fluid animations so you didn't even try.
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>>182987231
Shoo shoo
Head back yo browsing Patrons anon
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>>182987473
Well Nobushi is based on noble samurai women
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>>182987231
Why do you still want us to notice your chivalry clone?
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>>182987956
more realistic than for honor atleast

fh looks good but its cinematic fighting and pretty goofy overall
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>>182988246
I thought it said she was a peasant trained to defend peasants in her intro video.
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>>182988395
>boredhau shill still too afraid to make a general...
>still fishing for (you)s
>>182988421
And yes in their lore she's a peasant guardian(niffty idea)
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>>182988717
But who guards the peasant guardians?
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Is there like a sale or a free weekend?
I feel like im fighting people who arent that good
or perhaps i got above average...

post your main and a pose, i might draw them in that pose.

also if you want, specify if you want it in pencil or brushpen
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>>182989215
Kensei
>>182989331
Warden holding shinobi or PK.
Which ever is easier, but I guess brushpen
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>>182970924

Thanks anon, I'll try it.
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>>182988358
>>182988717
you guys always complain about shilling but cant stop talking about mordhau, you guys are obsessed
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>>182990408
Knock it off.
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>>182990408
Oh (you)
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>>182988395
>fh looks good but its scripted fighting and pretty goofy overall
Fixd
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>>182990792
Subscribed. Where do I donate my Patron bucks
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>>182948934
>Ayu being cute is canon
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>>182984680
I'm stubborn enough that I'd rather deal with 30fps than deal with Ubisoft DRM or steam.
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>>182948934
Best faction leader, too cute.
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>>182990461
prove me wrong, sweetie
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>>182989915
can you post a fullbody of the female (or male idc) shinobi? cant find a good reference.
might as well add a reference to the kensei
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>>182992443
Who else thinks Mordhau looks pretty fun, aside from being a shitty fps? If it was strictly third-person and had nice fluid animations like FH I would think of it as more than just "Battlefield 1342"
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>>182992443

>>182993014
Learn to reply to someone shill
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>>182993014
Not samefag or mordshill, but I am of the same opinion. I might check it out, but so far it just kinda looks like a battlefield game, so meh. That is to say it might be fun, but probably won't satisfy whatever jones in me that FH does.
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>>182993832
t.mordshill
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>>182993014
agree i dont know why everyone is so against it
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>>182994167
Not sure if everyone's against it. It's just the incessant shilling and baiting made by a samefag that's brought annoyance for it. Still baffles me he hasn't made a general for it.
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>>182992443
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>>182994327
oh shit, where is this from?
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>>182994327
Hate to be the newfag but have they released cents and m/f shinboi versions of that? I couldn't search hard enough or knew the source so I gave the draw fag the fashion site one.
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>>182994327
>those turbo-slant eyes
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>>182994284
Well, most of us are definitely against this relentless shilling. FH has a ton of problems as-is without losers coming in here and trying to rub our faces in what they think is going to be a "better" FH, when in reality it's just some fps trying to cash in on a medieval combat renaissance that FH might help stimulate.
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>conq parries my top light
>he doesn't even get a top heavy out of it
how haven't they removed this garbage character yet
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>>182994530
>>182994636

They havent released every hero like this but there is alot of interesting shit floating around
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>>182994727
It's actually a good design. Remember that this armor mimics a 15th century Japanese, whose features more closely resembled what is considered a hurtful stereotype post WW2.
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>>182994327
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>>182995063

UBBBBBBBBBBBI SOFFFFFFFFFFT
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>>182995063

>actually non spiky armor exists
>not even in the game
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>>182948813
Ayu's helmet freaking when!?
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>>182995063
I would play Samurai more often if they had outfits as baller as this.
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>Play kensei and suddenly do better than with a vastly superior class
I wish I wouldn't have a consciousness making me play worse with strong classes. So yeah I kinda wish I was russian.
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>>182995063
SUPER KENSEI LOOKS SO GOOD IN HIS SOFT ARMOR
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>>182995063

>Fully modeled badass armor kensei
>with a modeled scabbard
>not even in the game

WHERE IS THIS SHIT YOU FRENCH FUCKS
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>>182995063

Rep 10 season 4 content
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>>182943778
>binge watch spartacus last night
>have intense boner for gladiator
fucking WHEN
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This new execution is a gift that keeps on giving. Giving reaction images. People with faces at least half open all have this "wtf bruh I thought we were cool?" look.
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>>182996135
What kind of fucked up logic is that?
t. Russian Ken main
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>>182995063
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>>182997198
Russians are scum. You might not be your parent's real son.
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>>182996840
shit i gotta get it and ansel it
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Hey guys I'll be posting my blog here, I'm warning you just in case you don't want to read it
>Eliminations, round 3
>I've been kicking this wardens ass since round 1
>He runs away from the fight to gank on a nearby friend
>I go after him and eventually catch him ganking
>He keeps running away and my team is full of honor fags so they won't intervene.
>Kill him
>"Message received: Loser"
>Next game I kick his ass again, even ganking on him on a round
>"Reported"
I love the consoles community
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>>182997479
This is a very bold and groundless statement. Please apologize.
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Will the defensive meta changes make the game to aggressive
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>Nobushi takes arrow to the leg in campaign
>screams "MY KNEE. I HOPE I CAN KEEP ADVENTURING."
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>>183001298
Momji is the best girl.
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>>182995063
>Kensei used to be kamishimo robed sword saint instead of just samurai-guy
I dont usually care about ubisoft downgrading but this pissed me off
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>>183001298
She had a nice Kitsune mask
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>RAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIDDDEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
What did she mean by this?
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holy fuck squads, conq's weapon isnt a flail.
it is the frustration of his enemies.
just stamina fuck them to death, "pavlov" them into dashing all the time to get free grabs and wall bangs, its amazing.
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>>183003635

she predicted the raider buffs
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>>183004019
Played Conq all day because I felt like being an ass.
He is not really good but fighting him is just a pain and driving them insane is part of the fun.
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>>183004019
that's why that old image that showcased the most dangerous part of each class didnt outline conq's flail
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>>183004227
I've never seen it.
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no ayu no laifu
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>>183004896
I hope the Samurai win this season. I want Ayu to be happy.
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>>183004896

She has a little shinobi boy toy
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>>183005539
Ayu is a pure celibate samurai warrior.
Slander is a vile act, anon.
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>>183005651

She probably does lewd things to Momji
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>>183006726
Momiji is too busy riding Okuda's kanabo cock to even notice what is going on with Ayu right now.
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>>183004019
>Pavlov them into dashing
I laughed because it's exactly like that
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>>183004227
can some one post that please?
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>>183003635
She was tsundere for Raider.
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Rep 1 pleb here, I was trying to main Lawbringer to be a big guy but I felt that I've been having much more fun with Warden's faster moves and tricks. Should I embrace it? Warden has pretty neat emotes and executes too.
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>>183008709
go with the flow.
practice your fundamentals with kensei
experiment.
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>try to play game
>disconnect
>try to play again
>get ganked by 2 centurions

I want to play this game so bad. I need it to die already so the suffering can end
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>>183008709
>tries to be a big guy
>crashes with no survivors
pottery
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>>183004019
honestly conq is way better than most people think. in a duel setting you basically have to sit there and take it from him until you're dead (however long that takes) unless you're playing a character with a dodge attack
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>>182987231
You're awful at this forced meme PR thing
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>>183007097
Momiji is pure anon...
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>raider on enemy team
>spams the charge constantly
>complains about "knight spam" whenever he's killed
>complains about being double teamed when he rushes into a 2v1
>bitches about how Warden wasn't really nerfed when I kill him as one
>any time someone replies to him he just goes "excuses"

I didn't think people like this really existed, jesus.
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>>182950509
None of what you said is true.
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>>182956463
I know what you mean actually. It's like some actions just don't register anymore instead of coming out after input. I didn't really think their "fix" was going to do anything useful.
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>>182984680
This is fucking true. Playing on console is a fucking nightmare. If you can even get a match to the end (which is pretty much 1 in 10), you can't block any lights from Nob, PK, Roach, or Zerk. You the game is so unresponsive that in gank situation you literally have no tools because you can't see what's happening. Also 90% of the player base is 10-15 year old shitters that don't know how to do anything. Console version makes PC seem well functioning and acceptable.
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>>182995063
this pains me as a kensei main
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where are the webms at?
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>>182956463
>>183015748
I've noticed this a fucking LOT with Shugouki. Demon's Embrace just doesn't come out sometimes, the input just drops altogether and you stand there like a moron.
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>>183016786
Why are you a Kensei main? Do you not get really frustrated?
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>>183017073
thinking posters are the worst
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>>183017073
https://track5.mixtape.moe/woqpab.webm
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>>183017442
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>>182956463
When the guy I'm fighting and I both try to gb at the same time sometimes one of us will just randomly win the gb even though we should bounce off of each other. Plus like you said some lights just don't get blocked even though my guard is in that direction.
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>>183017291
cause he's fun
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>>183015336
Worse for me are the people that aren't doing it because they are delusional like that, but the ones who type that shit to illicit a response. It just looks so desperate and thirsty for attention. Idiots who don't know they are autistic garbage are one thing, the people pretending to be autistic garbage for the lulzy dank screencaps of rage...no hope for those lost souls. They are past saving.
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>>183017286
>When you parry into wallbang, try to throw the embrace but instead you whiff a GB

>Later in that same round you just try to throw a GB but pulled back a micron and do an embrace instead, get dodged and killed

Playing Shugoki is suffering.
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>>183017442
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> rainbow is getting dedicated servers for a couple of game modes
peer to peer gone when
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>>183021851
Never, Roman scared off outside Ubi support.
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>>182996267
I can only hope this costume is going to be used for the Ronin.
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>use the choking execution with law
>"choke me harder daddy"
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>>182940960
If this game somehow manages a year 2, what type of warrior would you want to see?

Knights - Spanish Rapier user/ French Musketeer with a saber(musket only avaliable with lv. 4 feat)

Viking - Anglo-Saxon with a war hammer/Celtic warrior

Samurai - sohei monks with twin hook blades or tri-staff/Chinese dynasty warrior with a dao

then for year 3 just have renegade faction where you can put factions that wouldn't really fit any faction.

Egyptian Pharaoh with a Khopesh
Aztec eagle/jaguar warrior with a macuahuitl
Rajput with a Urumi
African Impi with a Iwisa/standard knobkierie
Persian immortal with a scimitar
Mongol with a Kilij

You can take a lot of creative liberties with armor on the African, Egyptian, and Mongol
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>>183025824
I want a real roman centurion with a fucking scutum.
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>>183017073
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>>183025806
>Lawbreaker has disconnected
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>>183026097
>warlord's leap is a better chase tool than Berserker's
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>>183025824
The Rapier and this...
>>183026025
Is all I need for this game to be perfect.
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When exactly do the fronts change? KnightsvSamurai has been duel for days
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>>183017073
>tfw didnt know webmconverter updated and is more efficient now
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>>182999760
Better than being turtled in my opinion, if equivalently toxic and problem gameplay arises, at least the matches will be faster paced.
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>>183027897
>webm maker is better
>shadowplay broke
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>>183025824
fucking
L A N D S K N E C H T
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>>183022891
Fuck that flashy shit. Maybe epic grade, but I'm going to stick with the grey tier cosmetic options for my Vagabond.
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>Playing Kensei
>Raider fucks up the parry on the unblockable
>feints their parry attempt
>my guard break bounces off of this, giving them an untechable gb
>Gbs are supposed to beat the startup of heavies AND feints
>But Raiders dont have to have brains so I guess they can just ignore the rules of the game
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>>183025824
What I'd really want in year 2 is a new faction replacing one of the current factions.

Preferably the Knights getting replaced by something else.
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>>183031085
>completely getting rid of the factions
Absolute madness.
Unless it worked out like some sort of timeline progression like in Battlefront 2, where you had the Republic vs. the CIS going into the Rebels vs. the Empire, and you could select what era you'd want to play in.
If it were like that then my interest would be piqued.
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>>182940960
does ubi still care about this game?
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>>183032904
Yes
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>>182995063
heads up lads, the guys from the dev stream are not familiar with this outfit
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>>183032954
where is the proof?
last i checked 'new gear' was just a new rarity and some spikes slapped on

have they added any NEW gear that's actually different from the other pieces?
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>connection to Ubisoft servers lost
>ok probably not too bad, let's try again
>Ubisoft servers cannons be reached at this time....
mfw
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>>183033036
It's very clearly just a fancy Nobushi coat on Kensei, it's probably from incredibly early in development before they had a ton of classes
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>>183031085
>Replace the Knights
Slant-Eye detected.
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>>183033782
considering the lighting and the fact that he doesnt have his nodachi this is probably from when there was just viking, knight and samurai and you picked their armor and weapons
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>>183033036
so will this actually go anywhere? It would be amazing for this to be added in, but didn't they say making the armor was too hard?
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What the fuck happened to my feather crest on centurion? It's gone and I can't find it now.
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>>183037221
it flew away
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>>183029262
this
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>>183029262
I want him to have a kamishimo option
I'd also love it if there was one of those monk basket helmets as an option but I know that would never happen in this game
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after viewing the data and seeing raiders were getting ledged just a bit too much ubisoft decided that when they buffed their charging grapple to also make them immune to stage hazards
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>>182960361
>best player holds "base" point
>The other 3 are fucking awful
>never take another people again
>watch them lose 1v3 while 2 people spam taunts

I cant
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>>183033093
Weapons yeah. The armor is all just variants of existing shit. Though I like the new Blackbeard mask shugoki got, and some of his other stuff was variants of my favorite look at least.
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>>182960361

>Hold my own against the 3 for a while, eventually die
>See that two of my teammates are slowly killing soldiers with lights
>Other one keeps trying to solo the enemy defender and dies
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https://www.artstation.com/artwork/lXlRk

And the For Honor community once again proves it is retarded
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>>183039324
Are you me at the moment?
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>Equip all black armour with as many skulls and spikes on it as possible
>Do slow RP walks into battle
>Say shit like "i am.... the darknes......" before fighting people and "look into.... the abyss......" when I execute them
>Make several people just fucking rage quit in both Dominion and Duels

I love this video game so fucking much, you guys. A Shugoki quit a few seconds after I threw him off a ledge and said something like;

>and i thought i was the only one..... who could fall that far.....
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>>183041460
>and i thought i was the only one..... who could fall that far.....
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>>183041460
you need to misspell some of the words to get deeper
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>>183042328
It helps to find somewhere on a point to stand with your back facing the entrance. That way you can turn around and face your enemy and slowly walk towards them, or say something like "ive been expecting u......." as they approach. You need a LOT of ellipsis, too. It shows how deep and mysterious you are.
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>>183026487
Oui oui ze wahlahd iz fine, hon hon
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>>183042517
how can one walk using m+kb?
if you're using a controller, do you just briefly switch to keyboard to type very fast?
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>>183043675
You can hold X to walk slowly on PC.
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>>183043785
its a toggle
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Lawfaggot here, I want to start maining Conq after I rep 3 Law for fashion.

What am in for? Do i just shield train into oblivion, or are there any other things (s)he can do?
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>>183045030
don't
only suffering awaits
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>fight an orochi
>rep 0 on anyone, level 16 orochi
>can't parry
>does nothing but top lights and zones
>carries the game
>mfw people play this character to rep 30
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>>183045293
the femConq booty game too strong. I don't plan of playing 1v1 with him (maybe just a little bit) and one of my friends said all he had going for him is the bash, how true is it?
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Hey it's me again. Got some heads-up for you guys cause why not. There's gonna be a new patch that's gonna alter a lot of Warlord's moves.

-Fullblock stance blocks unblockables now
-Headbutt can be chained into a grab
-Lights can now be chained into each other
-The entire duration of his heavies now have armour instead of the second half of the swing

It's not all buffs, though. His throw distance has been reduced. Same with his health. I've heard rumors that other characters have had similar buffs, freeing up movement and offering more counters and all that, but I've booted up the latest build accessible on our servers but I didn't see anything different. They might be rolling out the character changes for individual characters but at this point who knows.
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>>183045716
That's bullshit, but I'll believe it.
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what did he mean by this
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>>183046251
Either a 13 year old or /pol/. It's weird how many really young people play this game on PC.
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>>183046386
Have you ever heard of manchildren?
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>>183045716
There's no way this is happen but it's something to talk about so let's pretend that the changes are true
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>>183048645
I refuse
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The guy who made the "Kill x without dying" order needs to burn in hell
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>>183050156
*distant hon hon hon's*
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>>183046251
Are we posting these?
I kept imagining an angry Italian swearing in front of his computer. Damn did I laugh my ass off.
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>>183051082
Looks more like some eastern european.
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>>183051423
>>183051082
I just realised that he has ITA at the end of his name.
Damn I'm retarded
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BIG EXPERIENCE BABY. WE GRINDING NOW.
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>>183053618
>WL
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>>183045413
Conq a donk only has shieldbash. everything else is shit
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>>183053618

Boiiii
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>>183056134
How the fuck do I even play kensei Anon
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>>183056584
Kensei is all about fundamental and patience.
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>>183056584

I don't play duels anymore. Anything goes in 4v4 as long as you know how to bring your character in
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>Ubi's historical research for this game consisted of copypasting page 1 google results
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>>183056134
The path ahead is full of hardships, young padawan.
>>183056584
Just try him. If he clicks - you are in for a lot of fun. If he doesn't - stay away.
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>>183056869
Realism fags BTFO
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>warlord's lights are faster than zerk's
WHAT THE FUCK
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>>183058439
He's a lord of war anon. He's the master of the battlefield, of course his lights would be better then some smelly crazy guy wielding shitty tomahawks
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>>183056869
When the basic premise of your game involves Knights, Vikings, and Samurai fighting each other, and it isn't hilariously one-sided, I think most people who'd like to play it are past the point of wanting total realism.

Besides, if Ubisoft decided to turn heel and go for realism, every match would be populated with nothing but Lawbringers bashing and stabbing each other in the unarmored dick to do damage. Not exactly fun to play.
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>>183058871
>Not exactly fun to play.
But dude, don't you love maintaining a siege for years!?
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>>183058952
Ah yes, my favorite part is choosing my class, Archer, Guy in plate armor on horseback who shrugs 90% of attacks off, and
Assorted Fodder. Truly diverse and balanced.
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>>183059195
Don't care if it doesn't fit Warden, I would help Roman hide bodies to get that armor for Warden.
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>>183059195
>nine months into the march you get an infection and die
>eat spoiled food and die
>cop an arrow in the back of the head and die
>get knocked over in the scrum and drown in mud cause everyone's stepping on you
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>>183059309
Unfortunately Lawbringer seems to be their only go-to for substantial plate armor, and even then it's usually adorned with spikes and ye olde truck nuts. Hilariously there's a Lawbringer in the campaign that has a longsword in a cutscene.
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>>183059609
>"YOUR TEAM IS BREAKING"
>tfw can't even make a last stand because I'm dying of dysentery and starvation
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>>183059730
that cutscene has a conq and pk using longswords too, fucking ubisoft denying us mixing and matching armors and weapons
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Highlander when
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>>183061045
landsknecht when
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>>183061162
Scutum when
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>>183060419
>there will never be a sword and shield knight because warlord and conqueror exist

why even live
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>>183061456
Never
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>Buy game, play vs. bots for a few hours to get used to controls
>20 minute queue time for Dominion, which had highest pop at the time
>Get reamed in 4 minutes
Was playing on PC a mistake?
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>>183061918
>20 minute quee time for dominion
>on PC

Bullshit
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>>183060419
>>183061707
Funnily enough if they had went with their original vision for the game, we could have had all that and possibly more.

The rough draft for the game was simply picking a Knight, Viking, or Samurai, then you could choose your armor and weapon. I'd imagine that must've been a nightmare to balance so they scrapped it. Not to mention there are some weapons, like the flail, that wouldn't mesh well with the Viking or Samurai aesthetic, so that could've also introduced balancing issues.
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>>183062289
I dunno anon seems pretty accurate to me
I've forgotten about Elim timers I've left in the background because it just literally never finds a game
consistently
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>>183061860
fuck me
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>>183062585
I'm playing dom only because fuck 1v1 containment zones for honorfags, skirmish is shit and elim dead. Takes like 3 minutes to find a match
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>>183062683
Centurion is cool a scutum would be boring as balls
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>>183062852
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So after not playing for a very long time i've decided to come back to the game, now that i have a controller.
Which class is the scummiest now? Like, people will literally CRY at you for using it, like peace keeper some time ago.
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>>183063193
warlord
raider
peacekeeper
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>>183063193
Raider, PK (Still), and Warlord (Still).
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>>183063245
>>183063256
>Raider
wasn't he pisspoor? What has changed about him?
Also fuck me the game is hard to play on a controller after switching from kb+m
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Someone explain to me how the fuck dominion is supposed to be fun

Every single fucking game is just joining halfway through (the team you join is invariably losing) and being raped to death by death squads as you desperately try to capture anything
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>>183063319
he can cancel everything into his stunning tap which gives him insane mixups, and he just got buffed again so his charging grapple comes out instantly and tracks harder than anything else
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>>183061456
Barefoot shield huntress when
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>>183063719
get back in the gas chambers
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>>183063719
Hopefully season 4
>>183063813
Shut up grandpa. We all know your escapades from the good ole days, your no better even after visiting a certain board.
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Who else is hoarding a secret fully upgraded Max Block Damage weapon for each character in preparation for the chip damage apocalypse

is it just me
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>>183061707
I'd main Conq right the fuck now if I could just a goddamn mace and not a stupid fucking flail
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>>183064907
Yes. I have a feeling it is literally just you.
What the fuck is wrong with you?
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Who here is a Kensei main that is ready when he gets buffed to extreme levels
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>>183064907
No my shinobi and Warden have pocket 4v4 power ready to be used for incoming patch talk for Thursday.
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>>183063719
Gladiator can be female and wears sandals
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>>183065284
; ~ ;
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>>183065681
DONT YOU FUCK ME WITH ME ANON!!
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>>183065681
Do we know what gladiator's kit will be? I don't want to use a fucking trident and net but I want a roman warrior lady
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>>183065893
>footfag
>anime image
>autistic screeching

Everything checks out
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Do you guys think we will get info about the new chars in this dev stream?
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>>183065681
That's bullshit
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>>183066236
no
they'll have a 2-hour special on the faction war, though
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>>183066236
NO!
How many times have this been said already. Off season is when info will be talked about, like last time.
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So is join in progress in the game now or not? Because that shit won't happen, like ever. Once you are a man down, you stay a man down.
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>>183066236
Doubt it. Season still has what...7-8 days left. Won't make it in time. They will use this last one to tell the factions to rally up for the faction war, despite all the knights being /pol/ conspiracy fags who swear it's rigged, the Sammy are children who never drop assets, and the Kangs caught a ton of dead weight after their last win.

Warrior Den after this one I think they will tease the new guys but not show movesets yet, just intro videos. Then they will talk upcoming changes.

3rd den from now we'll probably get a real look at the new heroes and soon after they should be playable for season pass fags.
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>>183067416
>Wise viking, the post
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>>183067416
>Warrior Den after this one I think they will tease the new guys but not show movesets yet, just intro videos. Then they will talk upcoming changes.
>3rd den from now we'll probably get a real look at the new heroes and soon after they should be playable for season pass fags.

Delay both of these by a week and you're probably right.
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>>183061918
>20 min queue
What? Its 5mins at most.
>>
>Dominion
>We start breaking
>nbd, we can just cap and catch up
>Nobody caps
>they just stand there
>3 people
>one point
>they just stand there
>enemy team comes in
>somehow they fight off 4 people
>they keep just standing there
>they don't go to cap anything else
>despite 3 of 4 people being dead
>still losing points
>They keep gaining
>They just keep standing there
>enemy team respawns
>fight
>lose
>because dominion is a fun game mode
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>>183069067
Well it made perfect sense to stand there. If they left the zone to cap another one, the enemy team would just cap it.

If 1 left, he would be caught and killed when the enemy respawns and there would be only 2 of them left.

If 2 left, either the 2 would be caught and killed leaving the last one for a gang rape or they would lose a guy and a zone.
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>>183069536
Man, what an incredible game mode, sure am glad it's the only one that actually finds a game!
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Why isn't there a torrent of this game?

Is denuvo too strong?
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>>183070065
You know, any other general and I'd probably feel the need to berate you for being a pirate, and harming an industry I'm attached to. But honestly fuck Ubitwat. Instead I'd encourage you to pirate this game if you're able. I'd probably bitch less about this game if it was fun garbage I didn't pay for.
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>>183070291
>and harming an industry I'm attached to

I've never bought a game that I couldn't pirate just because I couldn't pirate it.

My money is always going to stay in my pocket, I'm just trying to see if I can kill a few hours one day on some hack n slash campaign.

The video game industry is doing enough to harm itself letting whoever has the tallest soap box make whatever ludicrous decision they want in the name of being politically correct, I sincerely doubt pirates are the reason its gotten this way.
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Jesus Christ guys doing real 2v2s is the funnest shit in this game it removes all the salt
>Revenge, revives, environmental kills and ganking are all okay
>Fighting two enemies while chained to your best bro Gladiator style
>1v2 when your partner falls and winning like a madman

Most fun I've had with this game yet
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>>183071454
Wait until you fight Warlord/Raider+Nobushi and you'll stop thinking this
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>>183071609
This. Brawl was fun until everyone started being unlockspamming nobs and warlords.
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>>182952141
Seriously, almost every afk fag is a Nobushi... but why?
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>switch from kb+m to controller
>game is literally unplayable, can't beat fucking anyone, mixing up inputs
shoot me
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>>183074564
>switch from controller to kb+m
>game is literally unplayable, can't beat fucking anyone, mixing up inputs
fuck me
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>>183074564
Welcome to console feel. You'll get used to it
>>
>fight a 1v1
>suddenly get carried by a raider because no start up
>he hits me with a zone
>another enemy raider comes and carries me because no start up of the charge
>they both spam me with stunning taps and zones

EPIC! We surely did it reddit! :DDDD
>>
>valk blocks one(1) light
>suddenly does an uncounterable free knockdown, can't dodge no matter what
now i remember why i quit
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>>183077072
She's ass on PC from what I heard?
She's annoying on 30fps, so if you're playing on console I sympathize
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>>183059730
They just need to go full joke-tier with customization now. I would spend steel for actual truck nuts for my LB.
And joke weapons would be sweet, like a Conq with a fuzzy dice flail, or a wok and spatula for WL.
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>Beat a guy who is playing Raider as Lawbringer
>He breaks out his Rep 10 Warlord and just headbutt spams to "prove a point"

Does every single faggot in this game have an OP/obnoxious as fuck backup class up their sleeve to bust out when they get creamed? It's like everyone but me has Raider, PK or Orochi at Rep 15+ or something.
>>
honestly if you still play conq just uninstall. you only exist to annoy other players
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>>183078262
Conq is the second most hard working char in the game after Ken.
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>>183078221
Yeah man, how slow are you?
I got a pocket rep 1 raider
Rep 17 Warlord
Rep 6 PK and Rep 12 Cent
You gotta have the backups man. Have that cheesy autist moment and say the kid gloves come off
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>>183077072
You mean her full block?
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>>183062939
>tfw fapped to this last night
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>>183078812
>dying to an exhausted Lawbringer
Sad.
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>still no leaks
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>>183062939
That's a boy isn't it......
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>>183078812
Nice job on those banners!
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>>183078812
Why didnt he counter the gb? He didn't dodge.
>>183079162
It's a girl(male).
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>>183079294
Fucking gross
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>>183079339
>Fucking gross
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>>183078812
I've become fond of the blue indicators in colorblind mode, but hate that all my color palettes are fucked up.
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>>183078552
yeah, he works hard at being the greatest scum in the game
>all conq players do is turtle and GB because of superior block
>half the cast can't really punish his bash
it's alright though, because conq is "bad", right?
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>>183079636
Hi, Reddit.
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>>183080035
you have yet to rebut anything I've said
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>Get hit by Raiders knee as berserker
>see second light come out and parry it while stunned for top heavy
>happens again but he goes for heavy
>parry into top heavy feint into gb throw into a tree into top heavy
>kill with a raw light while he is winding up zone
Felt good
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>Play with a Rep 30 Warden main who isn't a pretentious asshole and is a really good sport about winning AND losing

What kind of topsy turvy dimension is this?

>>183080470
You can parry Raider's follow up light as Assassins?
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>>183079636
>unpunishable bashes
That's a warlord, in conq's matter you can at least dodge them
>turtle and GB
and what else are they supposed to do? Sick mixups with feints when barely anyone knows about conq's feints and they take like a quarter of your stamina? Maybe that GREAT heavy bash heavy combo that no one falls for and is basically useless? Enlighten us mr. redditor.
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>>183080554
He said second light anon, as in light after a light.
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>183080703
>183079636
Reminder that reddit's opinions are reddit mods' opinions, which are mostly console-based, and actually get light-spammed by conqs so their opinions are laughable.
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>>183080842
What kind of retard goes for a second light as Raider after the kick and light? Raider's 600ms lights are the easiest shit in the world to parry. I assumed the Anon was referring to the knee as the "first" light in the sequence because I can't imagine anybody actually using raw Raider lights.
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>>183080703
>in conq's matter you can at least dodge them
I said unpunishable, not unreactable. even then, the shrewd conqueror player can condition his opponent to dodge the bashes and just start dodge > GBing instead.
>>183080703
>and what else are they supposed to do?
the point is they don't have to do anything else. you can sit there and turtle and slowly wear your opponent down and depending on what character they're playing, they can't do much about it. defensive meta still reigns, and conq is one of the most defensive characters in the game.
>>183081017
>if you have an opinion I don't like, you're reddit
sad as fuck. engage with my argument or fuck off
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>>183081017
What world do they live in? Even on ded box most Conqs are either idiots relying on bash too much or they just turtle. Even so, it's hard to punish him on 30fps but also beat him since he's still slow as balls.
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>>183081134
I have met players (quite a few) who can dodge Conqueror's bashes on reaction, and not on prediction. As in, the moment he actually starts to bash they dodge and punish it. It's actually not hard, especially if you dodge left rather than right. I can't do it consistently, but testing Conq in duels has shown me pretty much everybody else can.
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>>183081239
Also can beat him*
Fuck my spelling today, second time on this same board.
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>>183081134
Well all we can hope for is that they actually rework conq properly and they don't just take off his superior block because that would just make him completly useless.
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>>183081290
I can dodge it on reaction, the problem is unless I'm playing a character with a dodge attack I can't punish them. 90% of the time a dodge > GB will be teched out of because conq recovers quickly.
>>183081441
I hope they do rework him and make him both good and not a complete drag to play against. as it is now, I'd rather fight anyone else on the roster than conq.
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>>183081134
>>if you have an opinion I don't like, you're reddit
It's more like you have an opinion that is not only wrong, but currently "popular" on reddit, which can be read "correct" on reddit.
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>>183081691
>It's more like you have an opinion that is not only wrong
then go ahead and tell me what's wrong about my assessment of conqueror instead of screeching about reddit
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>>183081582
>90% of the time a dodge > GB will be teched out of because conq recovers quickly.

This is true. As for reworks, I feel like Conq needs something besides his bash to get around turtles, like his charged heavy being unblockable. An interesting idea to me would be to make it similar to a soft feint, where you can change the direction of the attack once the swing itself has started. It would kinda suit the flail concept. The whole point of a flail is that it can get "around" the enemy's defence, so it's weird Conqueror has no real way of doing that outside of his tedious shoulder bash.
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>>183081782
I really hope they do something with his charged heavy, it's one of the more fun parts of his kit but it's almost useless against decent opponents. conq is the only character in the game I consider in need of a full rework as opposed to simple rebalancing.
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>>183017442

what did he mean by this?
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>>183081121
I should add some context, I'm on ps4, so he was probably used to hitting any light he went for while stun was still in effect.
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>>183017442
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>>183082346
>>183082546
Absolute worst
That anon was correct
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>>183080554
This friendly non-toxic rep 30 warden who can take a loss politely and win without gloating fills me with hope
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>>183082678
What did you mean by this?
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>>183079112
Maybe the leakers don't care
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>>183082727
We discussed fashion and weapons. He had a very simple, "practical" look to his Warden with no effects or anything. The way he played (a lot of raw side lights and heavies) made it clear his main mode was actually Dominion or Skirmish and not duels, so that probably explains why he wasn't a cunt. Playing duels too much changes a man. He liked my dumb Raider with 10 skulls on it for how goofy it was. It's odd to meet a player who is polite, but not a role playing faggot about it, ESPECIALLY a Warden main.
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>>183081764
Not samefag, but an issue I see with your assessment of conq is that he's really not the best defensive character even. Don't swing unconfirmed heavies against him and he has nearly nothing to threaten you with desu. Warlord and valk can also just watch for an attack and instantly fullblock, so what's your point exactly? You can fake out a conq the same way you would any other turtling player. His guard doesn't change faster or anything, and it's not like conq players are just better at blocking.

The issue you guys have about conq's bash being "unpunishable" by half the cast is a shortcoming of half the cast, NOT conq being OP. You can easily make the same gripe about anyone without side-dash attacks VS anyone with a bash attack, and all of the characters you might mention that "can't punish" the bash are far more viable than conq vs the rest of the cast.
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>>183082727
Sounds like a bug that needs reporting to me.
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>2v2 with gear score and revenge on, but feats and ledges disabled should be the primary competitive mode, not duels or 4v4

Agree/disagree? It doesn't matter since the game will never be competitive-viable, but still.
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>>183083093
>The issue you guys have about conq's bash being "unpunishable" by half the cast is a shortcoming of half the cast, NOT conq being OP. You can easily make the same gripe about anyone without side-dash attacks VS anyone with a bash attack, and all of the characters you might mention that "can't punish" the bash are far more viable than conq vs the rest of the cast.
which is why I said conq should be fully reworked. make it so he's good all around instead of hell for half the cast and useless against the rest.
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>>183082967
Sounds like a bro, happy for you
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>>183083093
>You can fake out a conq the same way you would any other turtling player

How? Conq doesn't need to go for parries so he can't be baited into a parry fail. Many Conqs are so deadset on never parrying that they don't even to parry unblockables.
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>>183082967
>plays Raider
>ESPECIALLY a Warden main
Well I see now that one of you two were giant faggots, and it wasn't the Warden.
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>>183083365
I like the idea of removing superior block property when he blocks light attacks. Light attacks are in theory non-committed, and shouldn't stagger if they're unsuccessful.
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>>183082960
I'll find you....
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>>183083816
I started playing Raider back in the middle of Season 1, I ain't gonna stop playing him semi-regularly just because he is OP as shit now instead of bottom tier.
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>>183083475
The problem with this gripe is that you're imagining a scenario where your opponent perfectly blocks everything in the first place. You may in fact run into this, but that's an instance of an opponent competently defending himself and you could propose the exact same thing with every other character.
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>>183083960
The thinker just used the power of his wits to make you want to murder him. Thinkers are truly powerful
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>>183084170
>The problem with this gripe is that you're imagining a scenario where your opponent perfectly blocks everything in the first place.

Nobody lets attacks in unless they are going for a parry and fuck up the timing, on PC at least.
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>>183084225
I didn't even imply murder anon....
Murder is child's play, I've got something better, think of it as a thinking mans pain
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>>183084353
>a thinking man's pain

Like not being allowed to watch my favourite intellectual TV shows, Bill Nye and Rick and Morty, am I right my fellow Redditors?
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>>183084337
Exactly. Problem is with game, not with conq.
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>>183084467
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>>183084467
>Bill Nye
Is reddit into Bill Nye? That fucking figures desu. He's a fucking hack now. Honestly I don't know if he was ever legit in the first place since I watched his old show when I was pretty little, but nowadays he panders to whatever "science" he's being told to preach. He apparently thinks children should be allowed to decide their genders and sexually reassign during gradeschool, and asserts this during an episode of what's ironically called Bill Nye Saves the World.
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>>183085738
Bill Nye Saves the World was nominated for an Emmy.
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>>183085738
I will never understand this website's obsession with reddit, it can't be healthy
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>>183086053
You're not healthy anon
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>>183086924
Man don't remind me
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>>183087114
I'm glad keanu is happy now and is John Wick
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>>183085829
Also fucking figures.
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>>183078221
>tfw you only have Goki, Zerk, Ken-sama, and Shino repped at all

I just like losing I guess.
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>>183087851
I'd say you have good taste aside from the shinobi at least, I'm really enjoying berserker at the moment
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>>183088963
>Actually hates post nerf shino
Even at 60fps were all you can block every single light? You people are odd
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>>183088963
>muh low tier
Shino's pretty garbage too desu
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>>183088963
Shino is fun to play, I won't apologize for it. Just isn't a very good character really, doesn't do much damage, easy to punish, made out of wet tissue paper. That said when you feint a heavy+double tap some lights+backflip away+ see them wiff a GB or heavy in panic+throw a ranged GB for a heavy and sickle rain. Shit is pretty juicy, it's not like Centy where you just nail one light parry and they might as well stop playing, they have to make mistakes or panic for you to run a long chain but it's fun when it works.

Main problem is that your parry is pretty shit, so are and throws except forward, deflect is strongish but doesn't connect right with some attacks, and you know one mistake and you are beyond dead. Not like PK or Wahlard where you can make 4 mistakes and still take the fight.

I agree on Zerk for sure though, also not a hood hero tier wise, but sure is fun to play and satisfying when you hammer someone with a chain of blows.
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>the same team that made kensei also made warlord
it baffles me
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>>183090379
Not surprising in the least. Roman is the ringleader of the dev team and his vikinglust is unquenchable. I predict here and now that by season 4 Valk and Zerk will be buffed to raider-tier.
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>>183091131
Played Roman multiple times, both in person and online during tests. He played knights all the time. Either he was keeping his power level low and has only revealed it now or he is still a closet Conq player and just doesn't tell anyone.
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>>183090379
What gets me most about Wahlard is how obscene his feats are on top of his perfect move set. His passive feats make it so he is not gaining small tools like everyone else but flat out leveling up to his final form across the match.
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>>183092215
I agree with this. Feats really should be tools and add-ons to a character's kit, and not level-ups. We don't need this to be another MOBA where a match can be decided by who levels up first and who gets left behind.
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>>183091896
I'm reasonably skeptical of this possible non-truth, but if you did play with Roman was he any good? Does it seem like the devs actually play their own game?
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>>183094050
>Does it seem like the devs actually play their own game?
There has been much speckyulayshun on this topic with each and every coming balance change and patch.
I honestly can't say for sure, but I think if they spend a typical work day dealing with this game, talking about this game, surrounding themselves in this game, pandering to reddit, worrying about Mordhau, and also constantly hearing everyone bitching about the game and straight-up abusing the devs verbally, I can't imagine that they come home at night and play this shit-tier trashpile of a game inbetween fitful bouts of eating too much poutine and shitting on each other in french-canadan bathhouses.
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Watching a pair of good Assassin players duel is actually really fun and active. Every character should have reflex guard, but lasting different amounts of time. When players can't just keep their guard in one spot, they are forced to constantly be mixing things up.
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>>183090262
>>183090269
>>183090345
I don't like shinobis visual design and don't find playing them fun.
That's all friends.
Also to the guy playing him: I was paying you a complement not attacking your shinobi.
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>>183093858
Dominion should be more like a MOBA
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Capture the flag when?
Need that flag on a kenseis back for some cool looking fights
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>>183096245
Also free for all when? I want a 4v4 with duel colours and no teams.
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>>183094050
It's true, he's pretty good, not amazing. As is the case for most game developers out there. You spend so much of your time and life with the game that when you go home the last thing you probably want to do is play it.

That said some of the devtesters are pretty good but they are always hamstrung, by playing whatever the new test build is. You go up against a dev tester and they are so fucked because they are trying to deflect in a totally different manner, or punish OOS different, or parry followup or whatever. They play people like us and they get their ass hammered by some exploit that has been removed for them for starters and even if it wasn't why keep using it if you have identified it and need to focus on testing other things.


All together, no they aren't that great at the game for various reasons, yes they do play, but no I don't think Roman goes home and boots up For Honor...realistically he probably runs to they gym, then to the abandoned apartment where he has redditors chained up for a quick torture cooldown, and then home to be with his family and imagine he doesn't have one of the hardest jobs in game development (making Ubisoft likeable).
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>>183096819
>4v4
>no teams
Uhh
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>>183096926
Shit. Meant 4 versus each other.
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#1 way to shut up any "honor rper"
>stand atop a mountain of corpses and ask the ghosts about honor.
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>>183096914
>movie on Roman struggling as a dev with this game when
Fucking French-Canadian Psycho
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>>183095628
Yo no worries, hermano. Just explaining why I feel no shame for playing Shino.

I like a few of the gear options, the Ivy set is my favorite, though I'm mad they turned the ropes to chains the MGR one eye covered bandana is cool to me. Some of the other sets are good for 90's style grind house ninja look. Doesn't mean I don't want a Fubuki Kai costume anyways.

The weapons are actually pretty detailed and not all gaudy horrible bullshit at the upper levels, that said they are small and nobody can see what you are using anyways.

Much better fashion options than PK and Roach IMO, though you have to play Shino knowing you are playing a character who does what they do but worse in pretty much every way. Also you have to accept that you will be universally reviled by the majority of the in game community, either they think you are playing something overpowered and are therefore autistic retards that lash out when they lose or they are knight cucks that will defend ruined horse cock sleeve PK until death because hating weebs is a good outlet for the aggrese they build up getting so often reamed by Vikang femraider megaclits and Wahlard head banging.


I love you /fhg/ if we die, know it has been mostly fun.
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>>183097753
We ain't gonna die shino anon. We'all be fine. This ain't no battleborn or "MGO3". Hell dirty bomb still gets fucking updated despite being at like 3k players
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>>183097407
Might be sooner than you think, they have a documentary team in their office....like a fucking episode of the Office. No lie, these dudes have been following the team for years, start to finish on this project just capturing footage and filming interviews. They don't yet know if they are going to do anything with it, and if For Honor never turns things around and just dies out I bet they will just delete all the work these guys did for the last half decade+


If not though it would be interesting to watch. The early days of creative development and can we do this technical debate, when they settle on a system and have to redo a ton of shit, when they are testing some super early alpha builds with stickfigures, mocap stuff, all the public test phases, the launch, the backlash post launch about all the issues, the struggle to turn things around. Well I'd watch it anyways.
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>>183098198
I would definitely watch that. At the very least I would purchase and read an auto-bio that Roman writes from and American prison after a grizzly string of what would be called "The Ubisoft Murders."
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>>183098592
LOL. 5 or 10 years down the line they'll make a documentary with dramatized reenactments of Roman hunting down redditors like Terminator. It's really a shame the title "Making a Murderer" is already taken.
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>>183098198
Yo if you know all this shit

Can we get that season 3 info :D
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>>183097952
Oh I'm not worried about the game dying for me anytime soon. I always see those posts.

>kek you think we will even get a 4th season
>I reinstalled but the game is still shit never again ubicucks
>mordhau will blow so much water, for honor= ded game, please donate to my kickstarter t.mordshill dev

That shit I shrug off. Ubisoft has no choice but to finish their season plan for now. Even fucking Dark Lord EA didn't have the balls to clip Mass Effect: Assdromeda DLC despite it being enough of a trainwreck to shelf the IP for the foreseeable future.

No I mean the general, /fhg/ specifically, long as it is here I will hang out with you anons, but few hot new launches from now and who knows. Wouldn't really be fair considering some of the truly ded game bullshit generals on this board that still get made and take up space, but whatever.
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>>183097753

>though you have to play Shino knowing you are playing a character who does what they do but worse in pretty much every way.
Shinobi can be a very useful partner in 4v4 by using his ranged stuff on a guy who is too busy with others. Fighting someone while PK or Roach attack you from the side is not that bad. But fuck me when it's a Shinobi. You always have to keep the ranged GB in mind that may or may not come
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>>183098839
>zat is wan av ze surengths av de Wahlard, eee nevar stops!
>hasta LA vista, reddit!
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>>183056985
you have much to learn
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>>183098897
All I can say is that the first leak got it right. Gladiator, Highlander, Huntress, and Ronin.

Gladiator was Trident and net, but net might have been cut since it was retarded OP, like Centurion and prenerf shino kick combined type retarded.

The highlander stance thing is real, but this shit is always changing so who knows.

The other two are not really anywhere yet. Overall look and feel they want is settled I think, but the movesets are/were barely anywhere.

The devs vowed to never do obscene fan service outfits so foot fags just go back to writing fan fiction and killing hookers or whatever it is you do.

So if you see any leak talking about Raphael from Soul Caliber guest starring or some other fencer or whatever gay knight /pol/ totally thinks should be included despite them all being boring as sin, or Aztecs or Persians or mongols or Samoans or polish or animal human hybrid warriors from Batman Beyond, just feel free to ignore that shit.
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>>183099120
I suppose, but fighting two people them just throwing GBs close up is still fucking horrible. You can tech them all and still just be eating hits and accomplishing nothing. With Shino at least the ranged GB might take you out of range of the other guy, you'll eat the sickle rain and they might catch up during that animation but most often you bonk into someone or eat a light instead and aren't that bad off.
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>My team is superior
>Host is on enemy team
Guess the ending
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>>183100427
>lose badly
>blame it on imaginary host advantage
>post about it on reddit
>get banned by ego trip mods
>take same shit post to Cambodian mushroom fertilizer review website
>collect delicious (you)s
>beat off to foot fag porn
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>>183100947

The ending was that the host crashed the match during the last second.
The fuck is host advantage about?
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>>183100947
At least own up to it if you're gonna be this retarded, Anon.
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>>183101119
Are you new to multiplayer games and really not know or just memeing?
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>>183100947
Only time in my memory I wished I could upvote a 4chan post.
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>>183101965
Epic post, guy.
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>>183100427
>>183100947
>>183101560
In a typical p2p set up one player is the host, they essentially take the role of a server. Each player reports to that one host then waits to hear back from the host.

So every player is saying to the host I'm here, I did this much damage, I dodged that attack, I shot that guy in the face, I took this much damage. Or whatever the game is about. The host takes that in then sends out to everyone else He was there, he did that much damage, he dodged that attack, he shot that guy in the face, he took that much damage.

And so on and so on the cycle repeats. The problem is that A: It gives the host a time advantage, and B: it adds in a ton of travel time that slows shit down. You have to wait while the message is sent, received, and then responded to. Take note if you had a dedicated server the same would be true.

What For Honor does is actually more true to the p2p name in that there is no host and everyone is truly a peer. Rather than waiting to hear back on everything For Honor just moves, you constantly send out what you are doing and hear from everyone else, but you don't need to wait to hear from everyone to keep going. Instead what they do is if when the data from every player comes in and they realize ohhhh oops this guy was wrong he didn't dodge that attack, the game steps back some number of ms and redoes things, annoying but no multiplayer networking is perfect either you do these backsteps or you eat the delay of a host or server.

So those times you tried to block a Nobushi bleed poke and you swear you got it but you flash purple anyways, then right after that you see the block and the bleed is gone, that is one of those rollbacks. Ideally it should be pretty hard to even notice and is about as fair as it can get. Problem is Ubisoft clearly rushed this game to market so they didn't have stability down. So when it has to step further back it runs into issues putting everyone back in the right place and crashes.
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>>183100427
For Honor's p2p system is straight up retarded. There is no host machine that acts as a server for all clients.
All players machines are in direct communication with each other, and simulation synchronization is done between all machines.
There is a "session leader", whose machine is responsible for coordinating the group's connections.
This is why the game reaches unrecoverable states so often, especially with more players involved, since every machine is arguing over what is actually happening in the simulation, and none of them take automatic precedent.
Also you can see the IP address of whoever you are playing with so you can ddos their system or just tell them you know where they live.
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>>183103047
Now the funny part is that For Honor does have a "host" in the matchmaking lobby. One player's machine is collecting who joined, what they are playing, what their connection is like, what the team balance is, what map is going to be played, what map people voted for, and all that shit. Once the match starts that "host" no longer has anything over any other player, they aren't a true host they are just a peer, but the "host" designation stays.

So if something gets fucked and that former "host" gets dumped and the match crashes it will display a message that the host left and blah blah trying to synchronize then boom. Sometimes the "host" leaves and nothing happens, sometimes someone else crashes and the message is different. Not that it matters since keyword HOST is there on the screen so people with limited to zero networking experience are confused by what is quite frankly a pretty fucking confusing and misleading crash report...and then we are off to the races talking about hosts and shitty hosts and hosts crashing the match despite there not being anyway for anyone to even know if they are a host.

In addition to all of that, with the recent Raider changes some "top" player ego cucks like Sypher and Iskys have become convinced that there is a host advantage if two raiders rush eachother, probably isn't and they aren't equipped or educated enough to actually test that properly, but that doesn't stop the reddits from throwing a shit fit about host advantage anyways because lets face it blaming Ubi is a lot easier than accepting you suck or just had a bad match. Not that Ubi doesn't deserve a ton of blame for putting this out when it wasn't ready since it is a totally new method of running multiplayer of this type and they clearly hadn't worked out the kinks.

There, nobody cares but now you know.
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>>183056985
>>183099703

Do I at least look honorably cute now, s-sensei?
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>>183104276
What's that pattern?
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>>183104461

The Impressionist. It's 1500 (one thousand five hundred) steel and I liked it more on Kensei than any of the expensive outfits. Same with ornaments, the cheap ones (sub 7k) are the best.
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>>183100013
>Tfw leaks just might be anons making shit up again to appear on reddit or troll
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>>183100013
>Highlander getting any great changes less than 2 months before he comes out
kek
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>>183104225
nice pic anon.
not him but I appreciate your patience of writing this essay down
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>>183105731
That's the thing that gets me. These leak always sound cool, but then you realize the later sentences contradict later game development cycles and patterns.
Why the fuck would a DLC character be changed last minute? Following the patterns of these devs, it's so obvious they don't test shit in terms of fairness or character interactions with other heroes for DLC ones. They probably get the hero to a playable state, (bugs, clipping, movement, executions work?, animations and emotes) and then say well good enough!!! He/she is ready
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>>183105042
Fuck that noise, can't buy beer with upvotes. I couldn't give a flying fuck if anyone believes me or not. It's all anon so when someone asked me what I knew I told you. You'll see in time, or forget, but I promise you that any leaks talking about heroes this season pass cycle aside from those 4 are pulling your leg.

>>183105731
It's not really hard, remember how shugoki headbutt had a different animation, femzerkers run, zerker dodge attacks, warden crushing counter, and so on.

The stance thing I'm sure is locked in, but what is and isn't possible in those stances or what chains into what is easy to change and they probably have tested several iterations. Rumor was in attack stance all attacks were unblockable, but I bet that has changed and all you have to do is speed them up and remove orange flame effects, not exactly impossible to do in 2months.
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>>183098907
>mordhau will blow so much water, for honor= ded game, please donate to my kickstarter t.mordshill dev

mordhau will blow some serious water boy u better get ready, its poseidon in game form
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>>183106645
Again wish I could believe you. Alas we shall see
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>>183107237
Where is that general anon? You make it yet?!
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>>183104276
8/10
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>>183100013
>The devs vowed to never do obscene fan service outfits

So they're commited to killing the game, cool.

Also, fanservice =/= foot service. I wish the footfags would stop disgracing the fanservice bandwagon.

They should know that they're poison to everything they touch.
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>>183108462
>comparing 3 fucking posters to more worsh fetishes and homo shit...like that god awful shota posting...
>mfw
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>Load into elimination
>My team fucking sucks ass
>The entire game whether we win is completely dependent on me
>I have between 8-12 kills when the rest of my team has 1-2 at the most
SKILL BASED MATCHMAKING WHEN? I'M SO FUCKING SICK OF HAVING TO CARRY GAMES
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>>183107931
why would someone make a general for a game that is not playable yet?
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>>183108462
The only fanservice eye candy I want is practical, realistic, well designed and thought out armor and weapons, and tag team emotes.
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>it's another "chip damage is the one simple trick that would single handedly save For Honor" episode
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>>183109031
To gather anons for its launch and to talk about it. Surely alpha tests are playable since they are so in line with the customers way of thinking and want their input...
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>>183109040
Why would you want gay shit like that?

If you want practical and realistic, you have the real world for that.
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>>183109051
At least reply to a post claiming this before complaining about it to get attention.
We don't want this to become like reddit where we just post popular opinions for approval.
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So is this DEFENSIVE META change going to actually save the game and bring the 1v1 fags back
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>>183109153
alpha is supposed to come soon, its not playable yet. and release is many months off
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>>183109679
>bring the 1v1 fags back

That's never going to happen. They already shit on the game so much and they're the ones with too much pride. They'll never go back on their word even if the game is better balanced.

Chasing 1v1 and realism was a mistake. They should have pursued 4v4 and fanservice from the start and they'd have a better, more popular game.
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>>183109679

Dark souls youtubbers treat for honor as a meme now we dont need them
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>>183109679
do we know what the changes are, or when they'll be unveiled?
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>>183109679
Hell NO!!
Thank fuck they are gone! Like another already replied, they shat on this like Chinese would shit on a ded dog. Their pride won't allow them to come back and reinstall. The defensive meta fix is good an all but the tryhards can stay gone
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>>183109679
>wanting 1v1 fags to return

no, they can stay in tourney mode. I wanna have fun in 1v1, not go against mr.tryhard and bitch if he loses
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But weren't the defensive meta change suggestions FROM 1v1 fags
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Threadly reminder that if you're on console you can just bypass the quit penalty by closing the game and restarting it.
If you get honorfags on your team, or are stuck with the last man alive running just to run away, feel free to quit and crash the game by closing the app
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>>183111271

So 1v1 fags do get the last laugh
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>>183111423
you can bypass the penalty on PC by just going in task manager and killing the process, too. really if they don't want people to quit they should just focus on balancing the game and making some sort of ELO system to ensure that teams are fairly matched.
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>>183111423
>feel free to quit and crash the game
A sad, but hearty laugh was had.
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>>183112150
This. The only reasons I quit are when the teams are very fucking obviously unbalanced, I have honorfags on my team, or I'm stuck watching some faggot peacekeeper/roach/shinobi just run away trying to time out the clock rather than fighting.

Unfortunately the devs have made it clear they will never do anything to stop honorfags from destroying 4v4 modes though
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>>183113056
It's really sad. Balancing issues aside, this game could have still stayed popular if they fixed the goddamn connections. P2P was a fucking mistake considering the game can't even stay stable if the host leaves, which they always do if they're on the losing team
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>>183109943
>1v1 duel mode was most highly demanded mode after the first test
>it's fucking horrible and filled with try hards

I suppose I'm glad it exists, it at least keeps those spegs contained, but so long as they keep trying to make 1v1 the competitive mode over Dom it holds us all back.
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>>183109943
>>183113435

More like

>Majority of /fhg/ kept saying dominion is the meme mode and the real game is in 1v1
>3 weeks after launch
>suddenly everyone realized maybe 1v1 is not exactly the best mode
>balance issues out the ass but it was mostly for 1v1
>People begin to realize the game was truly made for 4v4 and at launch 4v4 was actually pretty balanced


It was to late we didnt listen but now the dark souls fags and comp fags are gone to youtube comments and reddit complaining every time for honor is mentioned
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>>183113821

and now we lost like half of /fhg/ and we dont even have drawfags
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>>183113821

Early /fhg/ was shit to be honest
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>>183113821
>>183114108
At least the "For Honor is a fighting game" meme died.
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>>183113821

So could we say that the horrible fighting game and 1v1 fag communities were the real downfall of For Honor?
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>>183114807
The downfall was the devs. We lost the majority of the playerbase within the first few weeks because launch connections were fucking awful. No one wanted to play the game where half of the matches crashed.
Connections are better than launch now, but still fucking trash
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>Fighting some dude in elimination
>Kicking the shit out of him
>Suddenly his friendly centurion shows up
>I'm trapped in stun lock until I'm dead
>Ubisoft thinks this is completely fine
I fucking hate this shit
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>>183114393
How bad was early /fhg/? I've been here since, Basically right at the start of season 2. Maybe a little before hand like a week but that was me more lurking.
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>>183115005
Downfall was mordhau bud
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>>183117092
Why are you still fucking here
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>>183117427
we're always here
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>>183117427
Cuz he got no friends to help him shill mordhau outside of this board.
/v/ laughed at his for showing "skyrim 2.0"
If he made a general then they wouldn't laugh.
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>>183117092
BLOW
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>>183117092
who wants to play some vaporware ripoff of chivalry, when chivalry wasn't really even that good?
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Shugoki definitely shrinks when Lawbringer chokes him out.
You can see it happen in his forward stumble after he rips the halberd out of him.
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>>183120003
jesus christ
I'm hype for the game too but fucking M&B is more similar to the game than For Honor
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>tfw you will never go back to when pictures of all the gear didn't exist yet
>tfw you will never be blown away when you find your first legendary item again
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>>183121549
>implying I even played one character enough to get a legendary in season 1
>implying it wasn't just a feeling of "whew fucking finally" instead of "oh wow amazing!"
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>>183121549
Wow, guess I better go whip up some cookies....
Thanks for the urge anon
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>>183121764
Make sure you don't burn them, anon.
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>>183063359
You just keep doing it until you go insane and then it seems completely normal.
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>>183121764
But that pepe isn't a cookie anon, it just looks like some puff pastry carved up.
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>>183063359
Console. The Chaos of actually getting to hit people who don't block everything.
No greater feeling
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>>183122013
Still gonna do it.
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Does anyone else use controller on PC?
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>>183122321
Yeah
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>>183122321
Yes, but it had rebindable buttons and paddles.
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>>183122504
>>183122492
How much of a disadvantage are we REALLY at?
>tfw can't easily do warlord's fullblock moveset
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>>183122623
I often accidentally do Nobushi's hidden stance after I stop locking onto someone. Other than that there's nothing I can't do that a keyboard warrior can't.
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Why aren't people talking about the real issue here? Need more gear space!
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>>183122862
Need another use for salvage
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>>183122829
I find it extremely difficult to parry valkyrie and berzerker lights if they aren't being stupid. If I even attempt to parry a cent double heavy I get punched and die.
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>>183122321
yeah I do
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>>183122623
non at all, I can parry lights easily, and find it much more comfy
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>playing as nobushi
>get 30 seconds into game
>kill raider
>fighting conq who keeps light spamming me
>parrys my light and kills me
>dc easy anti cheat

What the actual fuck?
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>still no pommel throw execution
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>>183122321
I did, but it just broke, so I guess I'll be learning how to use M+KB.

If anyone has tips for bindings let me know.
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>>183126731
Basically default, but put Guard Break and Feint on mouse thumb buttons.
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>tfw all that lifting finally paid off
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>>183129053
Still won't fix your autism
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>>183130335
>Implying such a steadfast character could be autistic.
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>>183130902
Nah, when you hear an enemy Lawbringer. That voice definitely sounds like a man on the spectrum, where as the voice you hear playing as a lawman sounds badass
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>>183131106
>this is spectrumvoice to you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhonsE3DKU8
???
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>>183130902
law mains are pretty autistic
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>Just want to play elimination
>Constantly thrown into in progress matches on the losing team
>Honorfags fucking everywhere jerking themselves off about playing by imaginary rules
>Somehow have brand new players on my team who are fucking worthless compared to rep 13s on the enemy team
I went from loving this game to hating it desu
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>>183131707
get back in the subreddit
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>>183131707
t. Assblasted redditor
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>>183132461
>>183133036
>T.Law mains
probably cancerous thinking posters too
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>>183131707
what did he mean by this?
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>>183133447
>can't even t. right
you really couldn't help but out yourself could you
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>>183133447
>Law mains
Indeed, peasant. Know your place.
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>>183133447
>T.
really makes me think
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Okay I must be going crazy here. There is a chest piece for Warden that has the cloth around the waist match your color right?
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how do you target swap with toggle lock on using controller? there is no L-Alt on controller.
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leeeeeeeeeeeeaks pleaaaaaaaaaaaase
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>>183109679
As long as parrying gives damage it will never be correct to attack
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>>183134998
Gladiator character is locked to be female only
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>>183135436
what should a parry do then
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>>183134976
You fucking don't. It works maybe 15% of the time. Changing targets is usually impossible.
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>>183135436
you ever played against a good zerker or PK player? you can't attempt every parry. a good player will have mindgames to discourage you from committing to parries
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>>183131547
>ignores my post
>post video of playing as law bro but ignores the part in my post specifically calling out enemy lawbros voice being bad....
Good try anon
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>>183132461
>>183133036
>>183133679
ITT: lawbringers who display their autism when some anon doesn't like them..
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>>183136227
Enemy law's voice is bad I'll give you that
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>>183136389
>ellipses
>calling anybody else autistic
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>>183136043
well that's fucked
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>>183136427
Only for attacking, their revive lines(if i could find the time to translate) sound pretty nice tho. The Latin sounds ok to me, which also begs the question of what the other faction heros say when they are on the enemy team being revived.
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>>183136427
Why is ally/enemy voices so inconsistent anyway? Why did they do this?
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>>183133447
Oh look
>>183136389 you know how to use the "ITT" correctly.

Ok ok, I don't want to segregate this general anymore so let's just call it quits here, how bout that fellow peasant?
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>>183136610
One of the many questions I hope they answer on the den. It won't be answered tho, since more pressing and urgent matters need to be addressed rather then voice lines.
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>>183136745
Can't really segregate if it's mostly anonymous, along with just 79 of us and Boredhau shill guy
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>tfw nobushi will never get a buff
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>>183136912
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>>183136927
Good, she's a chore to fight on 30fps.
Glad she gets blocked on PC like the worthless whore she is.
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>>183136927
she doesn't need one with the current tech for her just git gud
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>>183136745
people thinking law mains are cancer isn't new
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>>183136096
>he thinks feints work on good players
>he thinks good players can't tell if an attack is going to be feinted or not
>he thinks good players can't wait until the last second when an attack is parryable but unfeintable
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>>183137467
Or even just block. There's no downside what with chip damage being so low.
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>>183137467
It's almost like believes the defensive meta is a lie!
(Wonder what we're getting Thursday)
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>>183137643
>(Wonder what we're getting Thursday)
It's a whole load of nothing
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>>183137705
Don't tell the truth to my face anon.
Apologize right now and lie to me....
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>>183137774
I'm sorry for telling you the truth
I'll be sure to post thinkpost harder from now on
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>>183137882
That's better
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>>183137934
No worries.
Unlocked tech will not be fixed
Warlord et al will not be nerfed
There will be a two-hour faction war special
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>>183138015
Ok, imma be honest and say. I'm a little interested on how they can stretch out pressing X(Xbox controller) and landing a axe,sword, or katana on a map.
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>>183137705
>>183137774
>>183137882
>>183137934
>>183138015
>Flickering will not be fixed
>We will either see a very small change to the defense meta, or something fucking ridiculous that will further ruin the game
>Unlock tech will not be fixed
>Centurion will still be a fucking god in 4v4
>Raider instant charge will not be fixed
>Faction war rewards will be hyped up, even though most likely it will be the same exact ornaments the vikings won last season
>New heroes will be even more broken than Cent and Shinobi
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>the fronts finally change
>its the mode you literally can't play
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>>183138321
>>New heroes will be even more broken than Cent and Shinobi
How would this even be possible?
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>>183138605
Gotta sale season passes
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>>183138605

could be possible
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>>183138605

Gladiator's net acts like Shinobi's ranged GB but then gives him a Raider charge where he can carry you just slightly less far than Raider can.

The carry drains stamina too.

The net is unblockable and can be used as a mix-up.
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>>183139082
Even better; once you're stuck in the net you have to mash B to escape. Or play a Bop-It minigame to cut yourself out. It also has hyperarmour.
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>>183139210
And Gladiator can have 3 nets active at once.
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>>183138605
If the rumor about the one hero having two stances is true, then I fully expect him to either be awful, or unbelievably broken. There's no middle ground with this
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>Demons Embrace completely stops you from using Revenge
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>>183139691
AND THE NETS CAN STACK ON SOMEONE
EVEN IN DUEL
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>>183136557
Yea, that's usually what you are with multiple people around.
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>>183137161
Blessed comic. Those were a magical few days.
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>>183139082
>>183139210

Both of you are wrong, Gladiator lost the net and only has the Trident, he's like a tougher Nobushi with long range heavies and short range lights. He doesn't have a deflect but can cancel his lights into heavies and heavies into a GB.

The real twist is Highlander. The devs thought giving him a two handed sword would be too similar to Warden, so instead he just uses his fists and feet. Every attack does stamina damage but very little HP damage. To compensate he has a deflect into GB like Zerker. His GB can toss his opponent in four directions, but instead of actually pushing them or carrying them, he has four different wrestling moves that do stuns, stamina drain, or high damage. All of them pin.

Screencap this.
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>>183139898
>All of them pin
And if he gets a 3 count the person he pinned is kicked from the game?
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>>183140045

Only when he has revenge.
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The real lie is gladiator getting a female option with sandals
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>>183138605
Their top heavy will forcefully disconnect you from the game and replace you with an AI.
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Justify Lawbringer running faster than Conqueror

protip: you can't
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>>183140973
THE LAW WAITS FOR NO MAN
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>>183140973
conq is a criminal, lawbringer is a lawman, criminals cannot escape the law
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>>183140973
He's a big guy
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>>183141515
four jews
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>>183140973
The class roster clearly says the Conqueror is a heavy while the long arm of the Law is just a hybrid.
Also Lawman Dredd is jacked. He has the muscles to outrun a common criminal.
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>>183140973
Conqueror is a MANLET compared to Lawbringer, plus LB is wearing pants instead of armor.
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>>183142745
yeah but have you ever put a cuirass on? The limited mobility of the torso makes running a fucking pain in the ass
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>>183142925
Have you? A full plate harness has a higher range of mobility than the human body, and Lawbringer isn't even wearing a full one.
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>>183143290
not a non-segmented plate like he's wearing, a solid cuirass keeps you from bending the torso beyond a certain degree, you cant even touch your shins while wearing one
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>>183142317
Literally fucking nothing about Lawbringer justifies him being a Hybrid. He has the most cc in the game and is the tankiest character in the game, yet deals with absolutely 0 drawbacks you should have to deal with for those benefits.
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>>183143438
>the tankiest character in the game
conq warlord and shug all have more health than him
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>>183143584
Might wanna check your math on that because you're either ignorant, delusional or retarded
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>>183099703
>still got 8 Reps to go
Wait for me, senpai!
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>>183143438
>absolutely 0 drawbacks
1000ms heavies
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>>183145507
>fem
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>>183145583
More pleasing proportions; same goes for Warden.
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>>183145661
delete this and your stupid elf ears
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>>183145580
Faster than Kensei's, Raider's, Shugoki's, Conqueror's, etc
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>>183143584
Shug takes bonus damage after almost anything. Having more health doesn't matter when they are eating 1.5 times the damage after they tech a GB or eat a light, or even if an ally of theirs hits them.
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>>183145661
I really wish malewarden's head wasn't so fucking tiny
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>>183145757
>try playing kensei
>fight a centurion
>he throws a heavy
>I throw a side light at the same time
>his heavy hits first and he executes me

Fuuuuuuuck
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>>183145757
>Law's top heavies are 900ms
>Kensei's top heavies are 700ms
>Conq's top heavies are 800ms

Though Kensei's side heavies are slower, they also have far better reach and deal 33% more damage.
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Friendly reminder that if anyone on the team has non-passive abilities you should just disconnect.
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>>183146712
>crashing games
People like you should have their heads on spits
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>>183146691
and hyper armor, which destroys assassin fighters, especially pk
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>>183146894
I don't have time to play with people with no honor.
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>>183147236
Poor bait, try again
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>Play elimination
>Get matched against a 4 man premade group
>Every single round they just run away to gank, or just run around in circles waiting for backup to show up
>Literally no way to stop someone from running away by yourself because rolling dodges every single attack
This shit will never not piss me off
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>Playing a game of elimination
>Every single round I'm getting the shit ganked out of me
>Tie breaker round I check the score, and I'm literally the only one with any kills on my team
>Quit because I'm so fucking sick of carrying retards
>Enemies send me saltmail for quitting
I don't want to take a loss because the games "matchmaking" throws the worst possible people onto my team for me to carry almost every single fucking time I play. I just want to have fun but it honestly feels like I'm forced to just pick Warlord in case I need to carry the game
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The fact that you can get 1650 steel in one day when all the orders are reset is just great.
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NEW THREAD
>>183148190
NEW THREAD
>>183148190
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>>183146691
Law top heavy as fast as:
>Berserker top heavy
>Warden top heavy
>Shugoki Zone

Law top heavy faster than:
>Raider top heavy
>Shugoki uncharged heavy


Law top heavy slower than:
>Warlord top heavy
>Centurion uncharged heavies

Law side heavy as fast as:
>Berserker Side heavy
>Warden side heavy
>Peacekeeper's heavies
>Conqueror's dash recovery
>Conqueror top heavy
>Shugoki side dash recovery
>Orochi's side heavy
>Nobushi's backdash recovery

Law side heavy faster than:
>Raider side heavy
>Kensei side heavy
>warlord side heavy (same damage)
>Shugoki uncharged heavy

Law side heavy slower than:
>Conqueror side heavy
>Centurion uncharged heavies

Yes anon, as we can clearly see, Lawbringer pays dearly with his attack speed. He is incredibly slow, much slower than other characters.

Oh wait.
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>>182995063
VIP mode when
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>>183145929
Yeah; he's just a bit too bulky for his own good.
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