/civ4xg/ - Stellaris, Endless, Civilization and 4X Games General

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>>182754182
First for Zelevas

>>182753290
Bump.

CiV question.

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Second for Cute-ists

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>>182754182

>>182754610
fug lads

play necrophages

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>vodyani are cordial to me
>they propose peace
>i agree
>they declare war on me in next 10 sec

>>182755351
play cultists

>>182755432
*destroys your one city*

>>182755524
*converts all of your minor factions*

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>>182755524
>Destroying a 1500 fortification points city

>>182755637
*sieges city*

fug
at least they are wiping out everyone else first, but I don't know if that is a good thing or not
I just Hope the Xenophobe AE on the other side of the galaxy from these guys gets off their ass to do something

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>>182756693

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>mfw assimilating the Tikaanan
holy fuck, now i never have to bother with armor or aircraft

>>182754330
Should I just check the "Avoid Growth" checkbox?

>>182755923
*200 turns later..*

>>182757451
Trade for luxuries

how the fuck do I turn these guys I conquered into cyborgs?
the option is gone

>>182757605
I know how to increase happiness, but there's a hard limit to it. The question is what to do once I'm close to it.

As a side note, another Civ has the control of the World Congress and is banning luxuries left and right, so I keep a bunch of happiness as a buffer just in case.

>>182757915
Mercantile City States and happiness boosting buildings, if you're running into issues with happiness you're either overexpanding or not putting enough effort into acquiring it

>>182757132
yeah the gnashast, hissho and tikanan get pretty mental if you're in a situation where ground combat is important; if you splice any of them as horatio, you're pretty much un-siegeable a la unfallen

>>182758159
A2g titanium modules make ground battles pointless

>>182758159
I'm actually playing Horatio and I've already assimilted the Gnashast but I haven't spliced them yet because I'm trying to get the Riftborn out of the way first. Haven't found the Hissho yet though, probably already been assimilated by someone else. I'll just have to nab some from a UE system to splice them.

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Please do not bully the Riftborn.

>>182758359
*bullies*

>>182758359
*put DNA in your locker*

>>182758425
*returns to cold war*

>>182758469
*closes borders*

>>182758671
*builds ships with a shittonne of weapon slots*

Good mods for stellaris guise?

>>182758771
LEX

>>182758771
Uninstall Wiz.

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>>182759019
>implying you can do that

>>182758921
Is AlphaMod any good?

>>182758771
I'm using the no black people mod, pretty good so far.

>>182759487
Every time I try to get into it, it drives me away with how bloated it looks.

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How is it possible for someone to lose before Turn 30? Barbarians I guess?

Jesus fuck almost all the Crisis's in stellaris are fucking horrible, I am starting again and turning them off
The AI will just sit on its ass 95 percent of the time, even when it is an empire that awakened as response to the crisis, and because of this if you are not in a situation where you can kill them quickly then they can quickly become impossible to fight

I managed to hold these fuckers off for almost 50 fucking years while only losing a single planet to them at the very start and have been useing hit and run tactics to slow them the fuck down and destroy their anchors, but unable to destroy the portal
and now they are coming for me in full force in a size that I can't fight off even with spending more time paused than actually going forward

>>182758031
Roger that.

>>182760948
city-state

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>>182762078
>Crisis's

>>182762078

All you need to do is being in good terms with others and give them military access.

>>182762756
How does an AI even end up going to war against a city-state within 30 turns? ?

>>182763058
its Civ 6, if you don't want a city states Suzerein bonus you conquer it in the first 30 turns.

>>182763025
I was in a federation of literally 4 AI Empires, all of them just did not fight it at all, all they did was roll over and die
and the Xenophile awoken empire was stuck on the other side of the galaxy to the unbidden behind Fanatic purifiers who they refused to declare war on them to make a path through
and if it wasn't for the fact that I had Ate a Spiritualist Fallen empire and then gone synth I would have never been able to hold off the unbidden as long as I did because I would not have had the resources to do so

>riftborn keeps bringing a gun to school
>so unreasonably handsome i can't fight back
>desperately lean for the beam meme
>decisive wins every battle, only a few shield ships lost here and there

Holy shit

Does anyone have the latest version of Playable Swarm mod for Stellaris?

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>tfw playing as UE and getting three collapsed stars within your home world's influence by turn 40

>>182763147
I assume that's if they don't have a decent military? how do you even get the units to do it? Or is that just something the AI tries to do?

>>182764740
You should have a decent military regardless of whether you're rushing a city state thanks to Barbarians. It doesn't take much to take a city in the ancient/classical era, especially when its a citystate.

>>182764010
>beam meme
enjoy literally never being able to hit anything at long and medium ranges

>>182764838
I usually focus on expansion, 2 slings->2 Archers usually seems to be enough to hold off barbarians with the +5 civic

>>182765309
What difficulty do you play on? From my experience 2 archers is nowhere near enough if you get unlucky with a demon horse camp.

>>182765375
I did just fight off a demon horse camp. like 6 fucking horsemen, they took out my first units of a warrior/sling, though that's because I didn't have them fortified in my borders.

Playing on King, or whatever 1 above prince is.

>>182765375
barb horsemen have lower combat strength than normal horsemen

they get wrecked by archers if you have a warrior or somethingto act as meatshield

>>182765561
Only until someone reaches classical era (or discovers stirrups, I can't remember which) then you get full strength

>>182763845
AI will only do anything if it has a larger fleet than whatever it wants to attack. It won't fight unbidden fleets unless it has a bigger fleet, it won't attack unbidden stations unless it has a fleet bigger than all of the stations in the system. If an AI does have large enough fleets it usually does good work, a fanatic purifier was eating all of their fleets in my last game while a smaller empire kept sending its fleets to snipe the dimensional anchors.

It definitely needs a rework though and supposedly they're revamping AI in regards to crises in 1.8 but I wouldn't hold my breath, that's the same exact shit they said they'd do a year ago.

>>182765667
What I'm looking forward to in 1.8 is more diplomacy options and a federation rework, where federations can meld together into one empire after enough time.

Dust is everything.

>>182767632
DUDE

>>182768821
Let's not do that today.

>>182769047
Lets.

>>182768821
DUST

>>182769569
Stop right there.

>>182769661
L

>>182769773
M

>>182770069
A

>>182770069
A

I love this dumb general.

>>182770317
Its the best general on /vg/! Unless theres no Stellaris content then its effectively a different general.

>>182758505
>What are the max command points? I've got 26 as Vodyanoi but want to know if bigger fleets are possible.
Cravers starts with 2 extra CP, don't remember if they get unique tech with even more CP.
>And how do you assign different ships to specific flotillas in battle?
When you engage there should be "advanced options" button in the lower part of the screen. Don't know how you've managed so far without it, as it shows all sorts of convenient stuff like overall fleet DMG type and preferred range comparisons. You then just drag and drop ships from flotilla to flotilla.

>>182770415
>You then just drag and drop ships from flotilla to flotilla.
Holy shit.

>>182770481
So were you just hitting "fight" like a madman without messing around with any combat options?

>>182771017
No, I was fiddling around with tactics.

>>182771078
You should be fiddling around with tactics anyway you madman.

>>182771345
But I didn't realise you could drag and drop, I was using the advanced options menu.

>>182771432
You can only drag and drop them in the advanced options menu though

>>182771504
I think you misunderstood my original response, I've been using the advanced options menu and not just been hitting fight, I just never realised you could re-arrange flotillas in it.

>>182771569
I wonder how many of your manpower losses could have been prevented. All those lives for nothing, what do you tell their families?

>>182771710
That they died for the glory of ZELEVAS

>>182771569
Your response didn't make any sense then.
>But I didn't realise you could drag and drop, I was using the advanced options menu.
You can't rearrange flotillas anywhere BUT the advanced menu, so you weren't missing anything other than a fucking brain you utter wasteman

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>>182754295

>>182772194
Yes it did, I was using the advanced options menu, I just wasn't re-arranging them. Nothing hard to understand about that.

If I pick short range tactics, and my opponent picks long range tactics, does that mean that the battle happens at medium range?

>>182773818
It'll go long range > medium range > short range in equal duration each

>>182773818
If there's range differences between the flotillas, the battle plays out with the flotilla that doesn't initially have its preferred range advancing every phase until it's at optimal. There's no "reversing". Every battle has 3 phases unless the opponent gets completely destroyed before.

F.ex.
>Long vs. Short = Long, Medium, Short
>Long vs. Medium = Long, Medium, Medium
>Long vs. Long = Long, Long, Long
>Medium vs. Short = Medium, Short, Short

Essentially the first phase always start at the longer range's preferred range and every turn it shifts closer to shorter range flotilla's preferred range dictated by the chosen card.

>>182774279
Is this indicated in any way during the battle?

Horatio Sauce better be a /civ4xg/ player in the VGLeague 9.

>>182776841
There's overhead mode or whatever it's called that gives you a top down view of the battle with firing trajectories and all. Each flotilla pair also has a symbol dictating which range they're currently firing from and it changes according to phases as per >>182776113 assuming the opposing flotilla has different preferred range set by their card.

As for flotillas without direct opponents (f.ex. you have two but enemy has one flotilla) I think their firing are all calculated as Long range battles no matter whatever your chosen range for that flotilla is. However the top and bottom flotillas can never fire at each other as they're too far away while the middle flotilla can fire to both top and bottom flotillas assuming your middle flotillas has already dealt with their opposite middle flotilla. You also get bonuses to overall fleet accuracy and DMG if you have more flotillas than the enemy.

>>182777562
So if I have 3 ships, I should split them up into 3 flotillas and have 2 of them be customized for long range?

>>182778510
You can't do flotilla split unless you have enough *used* CP in your current fleet, so you can't split a fleet composed of only three starter 1 CP ships but I think you can split three carrier class ships since they use much more CP. I don't remember the exact breaking points but the game tells you this at advanced battle options if you haven't got enough used CP in your current fleet for flotilla split. Top flotilla unlocks first, then the bottom flotilla.

Also if your opponent has more than one flotilla they can obviously engage your top and bottom flotillas as well so keep that in mind. Anyways you shouldn't worry too much about it since the weapon effectiveness is dictated by their type and while missiles and lasers are at their greatest at long range, kinetics don't get too big of a penalty from firing at long range either. Only beam weapons are *entirely* useless at Long and Medium whereas missiles are useless only at Short range. You should always focus more on weapons that counter enemy defenses and that can fire from your preferred card range.

If you happen to get an enemy that can't create more than one flotilla due to not enough used CP while you can, they're forced into using middle flotilla and you can just opt to put one ship into both top and bottom flotillas since you get the morale bonus that way and they're essentially forced into engaging their opposite middle flotilla first.

>>182770365
Stellaris has no content tho

>>182780361
Which is what makes all the dumb arguments about OIL that much stupider

>>182780423
OIL?

>>182780518
Were you here for the arguments about whether oil is the only good fuel source?

>>182780580
No, I wasn't. Enlighten me. Was it as dumb as /gsg/ is on a daily basis?

>>182777562
>>182779826
>>182776113
OK, thanks. It seems like a really interesting battle system, but somehow I couldn't figure out all this stuff on my own.

>>182780729
One guy kept trying to argue that we should give up and die as a species when we run out of oil without even trying to find alternative energy sources.

>>182755432
Sell me on the Cultists.

>>182781458
You don't need to worry about expansion.

>>182781370
b-but we have fusion right around the corner

>>182781661
Are you really agreeing with a guy that thinks we should all just commit suicide because Oil is perfect?

>>182781503
Taking over minor factions is kind of expansion though, isn't it? Except they're far harder to defend.

>>182781458
In midgame, you just walk through the map while recruiting FREE units everytime you go near a minor faction then throw everything at the enemy cities.

>>182781776
No, I'm just pointing out that we have fusion, ie what is possibly the best shit so far within the next 15-30 years, look up Tokamak energy

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>>182782327
Oh I thought you were being sarcastic, sorry anon you're right.

Even without Fusion theres enough other power sources to keep us going without oil.

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>>182781503
>You don't need to worry about expansion.
You do need to worry about it, since you still need to control villages and they're more vulnerable than cities, though losing one isn't as big of a hit either unless it's early game. I think the Cultists' strong point and fun part is the lack of empire level micro as converted villages produce free FIDSI that's all directed to their only city, free citizen, free strategic and luxury resources without having to build extractors (as long as you have the proper tech) and even free units that you can either use or sell to market for more Dust. Basically villages just give you more of everything as long as you defend them (or better yet just kill off all would be invaders from your continent) and you only need to manage one city.

Instead of blobbing like Necrophages you instantly raze all cities you come conquer (even capitals that are normally unrazeable) and in doing so get free Science and Industry stockpiles depending on the citizen count of the razed city. Just keep destroying everyone with a combination of free doomstacks of mixed units or your own racial units with the unique Order of Isiver accessory (from their quest) that gives them ridiculous stats. If you get the ball rolling and Influence output high you can just raze through enemy territory and convert every village you come across for convenient on-the-field reinforcement.

>>182782438
Even without Fusion there's always Nuclear available.

>>182782725
Expansion as in building settlers, expansion disapproval, keeping your cities relevant and all that. Sorry if I wasn't clear.

>>182782796
Exactly, it was a really stupid argument from a really stupid nihilist.

>>182781370
Oh, so it was straight-up Wiz-calling-people-sexist-for-not-liking-his-shitty-voice-pack retarded.

>>182785887
Yup.

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forgive me father, for i have sinned today

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>>182787221
Anon, NO!

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>>182787221

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>>182787221
STOP THIS AT ONCE

>>182787936
I just want to say you are the first person I've seen posting an image with the new 15x unixtime default filename.

Pillage or Empire Mint?

>>182754182

I just fired up Vox Populi Civ 5. Whats a medium powered Civ for me to try it out on?

>>182787221
I don't play Cities, what's the problem here?

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>>182788123
That's simply because I'm an exceptional being with an extraordinary destiny, anon

>>182788423
Do you have a drivers license? It should be horrific if you've driven a car too.

>>182788423

I don't either, but one of the Cities memes is that you only use one way streets to reduce traffic

>>182788461
Sire my children please anon.

So I got Galactic Civ III in the humble bundle, anyone able to tell me how it is? I literally hadn't heard of it until now.

>>182788380
Ottomans. Their ability is very very powerful for wonders and Progress/Piety if you learn how to optimize trade routes and religion, but otherwise they're pretty mid-tier. Especially if you're just starting out and want a casual pace since their ability doesn't lock you into any specific playstyle.

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>>182788750
No. Sex is disgusting

>>182789265
Fuck, at least I tried.

>>182788979

good idea. if I'm Suleiman i won't have to see his shit eating grin asking me for open borders every fucking turn

>>182789507
>that pic
Medium lel

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>>182789439
Make sure you do like me and rush Catapults. You build them in half the time so you can rush your neighbor early and have unrestricted access to the continent.

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>>182790531

my continent has Russia, America and Zulu on it

>>182790813
>get on the freeway
>die

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>>182790717
>and Zulu on it
Pay them off. If they're right next to you, kill them as early as possible.

>>182790813
>be american
>get lost

>>182789507
Yeah, especially if your enemy falls for the beams-only-on-every-ship meme since they're abhorrently destructive but their range orientation is whopping 0/0/100%, meaning they can only fire at Short so you can easily counter them by picking Long for your flotillas since the enemy will then take 2/3 phases to close in before being able to shoot at all. In general from longest to shortest range:

Missiles: 100/80/0%, High projectile DMG
Lasers: 100/100/80%, Normal energy DMG + higher crit rate than kinetics
Kinetics: 80/100/100%, Normal projectile DMG + shoots down missiles
Beams: 0/0/100%, Massive energy DMG and crit rate
crit = ignores all defenses

Basically lasers and kinetics work well at any orientation so they're all rounders but perform slightly worse at short or long, whereas missiles and beams do much higher damage but they have hard counters.

>>182789507
That only gets you one round of your preferred range. The first round would be long range, and the third would be short.

>>182791189

update: My immediate neighbors are Assyria and Russia. I always play Fractal maps so I don't know what land mass i start on, but as i'm playing standard and met 6 of the 7 opponents I'm guessing I'm on a Pangaea. America and Russia are already fighting over land between them, so I'm probably good for awhile

>>182791593
Is the AI actually smart enough to make beams useless?

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>>182788423
Have you ever had to exit and merge onto the freeway on the left lane?
I'm not talking about a split lane that merges onto another freeway. I'm talking about exiting onto regular roads using the LEFT LANE.

Some rural states have these to save on building costs and they're accident hotspots.

>>182791724
I don't know about that but it's, or used to be stupid enough to field nothing but beam ships itself. I don't know if it ever intentionally tries to nullify its opponent's beam outfitted ships but it does make choices depending on its own fleet setup so if the AI is fielding laser and missile ships it's bound to pick long range cards that make your beams useless as well.

>>182791189

How does rushing production work? Do I get a bonus to production or get hammers over time or what?

>>182793015
In VP buying out Production gives you 50% of the hammers required for the project and 25% for Wonders. There are some leader abilities that increase the percentage, along with some wonders and social policies in Industry.

[ends eternally]

>>182789803

can anyone else not find thomas du crest in this image?
its a tricky one

>>182797607
He's in control of the space station

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rate my intersection

Wiz is a Swede.

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>>182797854

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>>182799024
Do you ever sit there and wonder how evil you are?

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>>182799024
fuggin benis :DDD

>>182799024
these games always seem boring as fuck, no wonder your general died

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>>182799090
i am a very benevolent mayor

>>182798281
Why are the starfish's eyes on its back?

>>182799338
In the cuthroat world of the ~squalia starfish you need them to watch for the knife behind your back

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>>182799337

>>182799337
Please never consider going into city planning.

>>182799867
I actually live off of a freeway exit like this.
God bless America.

>>182799793
its mouth is on its back too

>>182802953
It gets very hungry.

>2017
>building roads with bike lanes
I seriously hope you guys don't do this

>>182803256
Natural Selection.

>>182803709
Is that an Anno game?

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>>182799867
>>182799337
>>182799024
>>182797854
>>182790813
>>182790682
>>182790531
>>182790024
>>182787221
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>182799338
It's actually a molluscoid, not a echinoderm. Common mistake

It's completely normal for a mollusk analog to have eyes there.

>>182791935
>Have you ever had to exit and merge onto the freeway on the left lane?
Yes, because I don't live in a 3rd world country.

>>182797854
uninstall the game

>>182797854
Jump into the lake. And never resurface.

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>civil engineers make $80k a year

>>182804204
Don't start shit with me

I just finished my first Endless Legend play through. Necrophages are obscene and I wish you actually got some form of ending cutscene when you win. Especially when you do it the way the species would do it. (I ate everyone and almost accidental the scientific victory). How does the diplomatic route go? Cause the drakken seem kind of cool in aesthetic but the diplomacy in this game just fealt like Compliment the AI to stall them as your eating someone else.

Also, is Age of Wonders 3 (or any in the series) any good that also had customization I like)?

>>182809315
you get diplomatic good boy points for every turn you spend at peace/alliance with someone else; get enough, and you win

it's a pretty dumb victory condition especially when shared victory conditions are a thing, so they removed it in ES2

>>182809747
passive victories are the worst

>>182810025
yeah, they really do suck; however, Drakken at least achieve diplomatic victory in a really fun manner
you essentially work as a bully and global enforcer, identifying who's getting too far ahead, forcing their neighbors into an alliance with you, and bashing them back into submission, at which point you force them into a truce and then peace

>>182809747
>>182810025

Okay so its just get as large as a kingdom I can then passively defend then I win? Is Research victory fun? Im worried this games replay value against the AI isnt that great. ES2 combat had some nice spectacle though I liked it more. Also the beginnings feel so slow it makes really want to only settle on at least 12+ industry starter.

Also, I keep getting scared that people ive never seen all game are going to win. Like id be doing my first war with someone then the AI is "5 turns away from winning as the sky goes red" and I get really nervous itll just end.

Does anyone here play ES2 multiplayer?

>>182806785
it shows

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>>182790813

>>182790813
reminds me of boston

>>182804204
it's an alien life form and not at all bound by terrestrial classifications.
It just looks like what we call a starfish.
>>182808454
He's not as clever as he thinks he is. But then again, neither are you for assuming that is it's back.

>>182816173
>it's
failed at the last hurdle

>>182816439
it's an alien spelling and not at all bound by terrestrial customs
it just looks like what we call a typo

>Got Stellaris during the steam sale for free
>Planned to use it as a space exploration game
>Can't set alien empires to 0
>Can't use Stellaris as the ultimate 'humanity fucks off and splits up amongst the stars' simulator I had hoped it would be

What's the best settings to start a game with if I want to have as little alien interaction as possible? I thought Fallen Empires meant civilizations that had fallen, but I was terribly wrong. Terribly.

>>182818053
There are mods that can further customize the starting situation a lot. I think there are some to get rid of all other living empires if that's what you want.

>>182818053
There's this: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=818107688&searchtext=fermi

>>182818410
>>182818290
thanks for the fast responses. I'm rather enjoying this game, I don't hate finding aliens that haven't began exploring space, but I do hate being cockblocked by ancient douchebags telling me my species is going to die soon and that I'm not allowed to inhabit this world outside of their claimed space. Mod should come in handy for what I want to use Stellaris for (Using it to plan out a D&D space adventure game) now that i've begun to understand the basics better.

>>182819189
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=904714968&searchtext=initializer

My last ES2 save was destoryed when I took over my first human colony as Riftborn. It had so many people and Horatios on it that it cause my game to lag and crash. So Im mad.

Do the other races have any interesting gameplay styles? The Vodyanni where a bit intimidating for me as I keep getting scared the draining would piss the AI off.

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>>182819597
>not playing as the most beautiful man in the galaxy

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>>182819880

>>182821745
>Horatio will never slip you the sneaky Declaration of war

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>>182798281
how do i get that portrait?

>>182821745
>not Real Horatio
>not sauceposting during Real Horatio hours

>>182821970
As far as the quest goes is the original Horatio even alive anymore?

>>182806785
Jesus christ the spaghetti on this one. Why not build a roller coaster at this point?

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>>182821970
It's always Real Horatio hours

Anyone have screenshots from Wiz's meltdown the other day? Wanna show it to a friend of mine.

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>>182823204
The posts he made in the development diary should still be there. I have this at least, and could try to dig up more.

>>182823204
Just check the last thread.

>>182823512
Man, being a forumposter is literally cuckold-tier.

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>>182823204

>>182823695
*respecfully disagrees*

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>>182823204
>>182823737
This is all from the dev Diary.

>>182824021
>How to "apologize" and still try to come out on top

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>>182756857
thats_adorable.png

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>>182762078
> game devs bother to put in an end-game event hard enough that there is a reasonable possibility for a good player to actually lose
> WAAH WAAH THIS IS BULLSHIT I DEMAND A DO-OVER
Given that most games are totally devoid of challenge for anyone who's not retarded and has played them more than twice, I find Stellaris crises very refreshing
When you don't start a game KNOWING you will win is when a game remains interesting
at least in theory. Stellaris is boring for many other reasons. But, critically, NOT because "Galactic crises" are actually minor inconveniences

>>182787221
My country is using the British road system which is driving left, so I don't see this as a problem.

>>182825404
I enjoy being the underdog in Stellaris, which is why I also enjoy spawning right next to a fallen empire.

My countless leaders are worth every moment I can scan even one piece of debris every 10 years.

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>>182818053
>I thought Fallen Empires meant civilizations that had fallen, but I was terribly wrong. Terribly.

Well, they kind of are. Fallen into philosophical and diplomatic stasis. And on a flavour basis they really are supposed to represent civilizations that once ruled half the galaxy but then let it all slip away.

Tbh I actually liked them more in 1.2 where they were Fallen and stayed Fallen. I appreciated them more from an RP perspective as aloof ancients who serve as a crack-able treasure trove of resources and technology if you choose to crack them, rather than what they are now they can awake post-1.3: geopolitical H-bombs on a short fuse.

>>182811836
the victory conditions aren't the fun part of endless games, the different factions are; pretty much the only faction intended to get diplomacy victory is the drakken, who actually do it kind of fun ( >>182811553 )

>>182819597
>vodyani are the mosr esoteric, but also really fun
>unfallen are maximum comfy and are completely capable of 1 turn supremacy victories
>lumeris can pull some really dirty jewish tricks with forward-settling outposts and selling them off to rivals a la the old xenophobic FE trick
>cravers roll over everyone and blob super hard, but actually manage to continue to be fun and engaging as the game progresses due to depletion, slaves, and waging wars on all fronts
>horatio is horatio, you shouldn't need any more explanations
>sophons are pretty vanilla, but you can use your stupid science leads as diplomatic leverage to manipulate everyone
>united empire is also pretty vanilla, but has some good flavor and can specialize

>>182825865
I would like them only respond to crises and nothing more. And since it ruled the galaxy ages ago, I would also like them adding event in the habitable world where we will have access to some of the old factories and residence they once lived.

>>182826109
is settling and selling outposts usually profitable for lumeris or is it just there for being a dick?

>>182826182
you have to be smart on who you will sell it to - selling outposts is a great money-maker early game before your trade companies get up and running properly, but you need to settle in places that they can't afford to leave in their rivals' hands, and make sure that they can afford it; of course, the AI in particular doesn't care about where it is, but in multiplayer it gains way more depth

of course, there's also the classic trick of selling off an outpost only to settle the system again, blockade the outpost you just sold, and pop all of the bonuses in order to steal the system back

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in stellaris, do i have to be a xenophobe to enslave aliens? or can i be a authoritarian too?

>>182826686
>selling off an outpost only to settle the system again, blockade the outpost you just sold, and pop all of the bonuses in order to steal the system back
Maximum over-jew

>>182827414
Seeing as authoritarians can enslave anyone, I don't see why not.

>>182827707
ok cool, im designing a race of lesbian femdoms that enslave aliens for sex, and i want them to work out mechanically.

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>>182827414
You have to be authoritarian and/or xenophile (and also not a signatory to the Xenophilic Awakened Empire's mega-treaty, which unfortunately I am in this screenshot but that's a very niche situation)

>>182828129
For FULL IMMERSION:
A) make your empire xenophilic / authoritarian (so you like aliens, but you like them on their knees in chains)
B) Give your people the "Decadant" trait (makes them really, really want slaves)
C) when you capture them, put the aliens on "Domestic servitude" which makes your pops even more happier when there's slaves around makes you
D) Go down the genetic engineering ascension path so you can gene-mod all captured aliens to be charismatic, fertile, and weak

>>182828502
i have the female only elf mod, using them as an NPC race:
>government
syncratic evolution
slaver guilds
>traits
decadent
deviants
rapid breeders
intelligent
natural physicists
>ethics
fanatic authoritarian
????? here idk ?????

>>182754182
when is the first civ 6 expansion

>>182829026
Oh shit, I made that mod.

>>182829531
never

>>182829026
>????? here idk ?????
Obviously xenophile.

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I don't like the Shroud any more.

>>182831062
That Shroud ghost sounds like a massive faggot.

>>182831062
Invite him to view the future of your fucking dick in his mouth.

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>haven't even filled the bay area yet
>game is already chugging
t-thanks paradox

>>182832643
>liberals allowing nuclear power even if the alternative is global warming
That broke my immersion.

What's the best route for the United Empire quest? Mezari, Sherydyn or stay UE?

>>182832892
>solar and wind being cheap and effective alternatives to coal

break my immersion

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>>182833114
>nuclear fusion power being discovered in a few years
really broke my immersion

>>182831585
>>182831631
You're missing the point of anon's image.

The pop working the PsiCorps, where this vision is taking place, is gtfo'ing the planet they just saw on fire.

>>182833074
Do you want science, military, or as you were normally playing?

Horatio is afraid of me because I built a lot of ships for an unrelated quest. Should I conquer him?

On a related note, how do I get manpower to go from my empire to my ships? It seems like I run out of dudes after invading a couple of planets, but I know I have a bunch in reserve somewhere.

>>182834706
>how do I get manpower to go from my empire to my ships
sit them in your territory for a couple of turns, it shows you how much manpower they're gaining when you hover over the fleet

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>>182834164
>anon's image
i read that as "mom's lingerie"
time for bed

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> high probability of success

>>182789803

Ok guys: here is how to win at endless space 2 war.

>Have your fleet have hunters and protectors. Hunters carry weapons and +weapon support, protectors carry fleet move, fleet repair, fleet shields.
>equip slug guns
>put all your ships in the middle flotillia.
>pick a tactic card where your middle flotillia will fight at long range.

Congrats. You win vs missiles, you win vs beams, you win vs kinetics due to your one-flotilla focus fire, and you win agains lasers due to your fleet shield modules.

Enjoy never losing another ship.

>>182836450
and when the ai goes full armor?

>>182836558
Then you still win because you have tons of guns and tons of +kinetic damage/crit supports on your hunters.

Seriously. Splitting your weapon type will lose you those +% supports, which are amazing.

>>182835578
>Channel the energies into an Avatar.
Looks like it succeeded to me :^)

Do I need to occupy all 9 systems for the academy quest ? I already regenerated 5, but the remaining ones are on the other side of the galaxy

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Fucking fedoras
Crusade soon

>>182824021
What a dumbass

dead

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> I have 150k
> AE has 570k
> I win the war in 1 year with losses of about 5k
I think I have become 2gud at this

>>182844245
How? I played a lot of 4x games but I am a scrub in all of them. I actually want to get good in one of them for once.

>>182843835
as Auriga

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>>182844559
You basically have to become Micro Hell.

I was helped by the fact that this is the xenophile FE and after Awakening he didn't go conquer anyone, he just sat there and built ships using his magic money pot and occasionally smacked people for slaving. So he only had 7 worlds.

So I split my fleet up into 7, lined up a 20-army-strong invasion force behind each one, and the day after the DoW, I warped one force into each of his systems. Fleet picks off the spaceport easily, then don't even bombard the planet at all - just run away before the doomstack turns up. 30 psychic armies will win going in dry against even a fully fortified planet with a moderate number of defensives / garrisons.

The tactic relies on the fact that the enemy doomstack can't be in 7 places at once. Which ever place the doomstack DOES go to, you either leave immediatly, or, if the alignments are right, let him chase you until he's over the star, THEN warp out, as it'll take him a month to get back to the edge of the system, buying your other forces time to snipe more space stations.

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I think... I think I'm gonna play tree niggers again...

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> Wiz rps Tzeentch in his own game

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Hey guys, I need some help.
From where can I download the improved space battles mod for stellaris?
steam downloader doesn't work and I can't seem to find it on any other site

also some mod recommendations?

thanks

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HAK HAK HAK

>>182822143
Not sure but that's one of the name options for an AI Horatio empire
>smash dat lek if yuou up at Real horatio hours

Should I update stellaris to the beta patch or is it unstable?

>>182846801
fug off space mexicans

>>182845294
autism?

>>182845294
only acceptable if you have tried every other faction once as well

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wtf I love the Warp now

>>182848343
Just finished the complete roster. I played UE twice because I didn't get the victory achievement the first time (I was in a alliance), and and I won't play vodyani again immediately because I can never finish their fucking quest

>>182845267
So you have to do this with the slowest speed right?

>>182846054
Read the OP, specifically the Stellaris pastebin.

>>182848252
He was one of us

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>>182848545
Slower than that, I spent 90% of my IRL time on pause.

>>182850067
You mentioned how to conquer their planets. How about actually killing the doomstack? Any specific build and ship composition?

>>182823204
>>182824021
Why can't Wiz understand that literally no one cares it's a woman reading those lines and people hate it because it sounds like something out of a shitty b-movie?

>>182851686
NO ITS CUZ U H8 WOMYN

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Good for you.

>>182850990
For me the AE had 4 stacks of 150k. So I made 1 stack of 200k and fortresses that reduced fire rate in a dozen systems. Since that AE was fighting an other empire at the time, eventually I was able to trap it's fleets one at a time at one of the stations and kill it with relatively low losses. Repeated several times until the fleets were gone.

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>>182850990
>How about actually killing the doomstack?
This is where you're getting it wrong.
Don't even try. If you engage the doomstack, the whole strategy is toast.
Basically, if you're doing a long war against an AE, their fleet should remain 10x your strength right up to the point where they cede you their last planet.

>>182851998
I hate this

>>182852338
Problem is you have to do something about their fleet after you secured all their planets though.

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>>182852704
> Problem is you have to do something about their fleet after you secured all their planets though.
No you don't.
We're talkin Sun Tzu shit here, m8. Don't engage the enemy on his strengths and all. If your fleet never is where the enemy's fleet is, all the tachyon weapons in the galaxy are literally of no use to them.
Just make sure that for every planet he takes, you take two, and then just grind, grind, grind his warscore down. When it gets to 100% 'cos you've taken 57 planets and he's only taken 30, a winner is you regardless of how much fleet power he has.

>>182821883
Its in the game by default.

>>182853006
It actually isn't, it came free after release with one of the patches.
So if you're some kind of pirate you may well not be able to get it.

>>182853050
Oh well.

This is unironically the best general on /vg/

>>182853198
I don't know. /bbg/ is super comfy as well

>>182853230
I've not used /bbg/ but out of the many generals I have used this place outside of certain release times is one of the friendliest and most fun places on /vg/.

>>182853198
Naa, too much /gsg/ crossover sometimes.

>>182853396
True, true

>>182853198
Eh, I'm more fond of /xcg/

>>182852976
So the FE or AE land forces are shit right?

>>182853967
It was good once, before all the furries, scalies and gay faggots.

>>182853198
I haven't played a 4x game in months, I just love the general

So warfare in Stellaris.
Once I finish occupying a planet do I have to leave any land armies there to hold it, or can I move them to the next planet?

>>182854440
You don't, unless you think the enemy is going to land armies as soon as you leave, though you may want to leave armies on planets you plan on annexing since those will have high unrest.

>>182854530
I hate the unrest mechanic. I hope I can chemical bliss xenos and purge them at the same time while not getting -300 opinion from all other empires. I mean come on, it is none of your business what I am doing on my planets.

>>182854530
Well I'm playing devouring swarm so they'll just get eaten anyway.

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>>182854030
They usually have big, good offensive armies. But defensive, not so much, and this is why the strategy works
> when the peacekeepers unleash 200 million genestealers into your cities
> "It's just for the greater good, bro :^)"

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>>182854530
>though you may want to leave armies on planets you plan on annexing since those will have high unrest
Don't bother. Unrest is weaksauce. Yes, these planets will need unrest armies after the peace treaty, but you'll have plenty of time to send the armies to them AFTER the peace treaty.

Is there any different in difficult between map size in Civ5? I'm still learning the game and not sure to choose small or standard map.

>>182855242
I usually just leave armies once I get enough planets or can make clones out of laziness, armies are cheap anyway.

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>>182855405
Smaller leads to you meeting people faster leading to (generally) harder,more intense games. While learning, remain on standard

>>182854902
I can see xenophiles getting upset but xenophobes? Authoritarians?

>>182855405
Bigger maps generally make domination victory more difficult and time consuming. Smaller maps can make it more intense as you're crammed together, especially if you've not reduced the number of civ spawns.

>>182855242
>+10 influence
But how? I feel like a total pleb.

So I downloaded the Stellaris Utopia from CODEX but I can't seem to get the DLC working.

Is there anything I need to be doing?

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>>182855723
That was an old save from before they nerfed it.
I think it's literally impossible to get more than +9 now, and that only if you're minmaxing it. Maybe you could still scrape 10 if you farm protectorates or something, but they develop so fast now I'm not even sure.

>>182855539
>>182855708
Standard then. What about barbarians, should I turn them off?

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>>182856294
No, it's probably harder if you turn them off, because killing the occasional barb camp is a great way to curry early-game influence with city states.

>>182856294
No, Barbarians are a key part of the game.

>>182856397
>>182856530
Ah, okay. Thanks.

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>>182823737
>People are upset over this VO.
>"Silly men being sexist pigs, really."
>There is nothing indicating people are upset about the voice being female.
>"There is actually. It is so predictable. Silly men on the internet."
>Uh, everyone keeps pointing out it has nothing to do with the voice being male or female.
>"It has everything to do with it because I said so."

>>182823737
>The only true virtues are courage and discipline, and channeled properly they can overcome any obstacle. Therein lies true strength; force withheld, a promise made.
>The ability to project force is of paramount importance. The only way to preserve our way of life is to make sure everyone shares it; willingly or not...
-stellaris tool tip on militarism

>CRY HAVOC, AND LET SLIP THE DOGS OF WARRRRR
What were they thinking?

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Eternal End was a mistake.

>>182859609
Kek

>>182859609
play necrophages

>England declares a surprise war
>Fend off the barbaric intruders
>Require reparations and take all English cities as compensation
>I'M THE WAR MONGER
>everyone hates me
???

>>182860467
>fight off an invasion
>ignore white peace requests
>launch your own invasion
>burn their fields
>bomb their cities
>ignore their pleas for peace
>conquer all of their territory
>somehow I'M the warmonger
If you really want to conquer a Civ without getting a warmonger malus push for cities in peace treaties instead of conquering them outright and if you do conquer a few cities just liberate a city state or two.

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Amplitude why.
Any way to scroll down? Is this what I get for trying the Anarchic winter setting?

>>182860763
Yeah well they started it :^)

>>182861351
amplified heh

>>182828502

Every time I see that symbol I automatically imagine Gordon Gecko and Rupert Murdock with several graphics in the background showing the current BitCoin value, the dollar-euro ratio and the value of ExxonMobil and Peabody En. stocks while a massive droid army descends into the atmosphere ready to enslave us all to low wages.

>Also kikes, Donald Trump and 1980's Robocop

I will to my lord be true and faithful, and love all which he loves and shun all which he shuns.

>>182863106
I like pigs.

You would make a ship sail against the winds and currents by lighting a bon-fire under her deck? I have no time for such nonsense.

>>182863286
No Wifi on Mt. Kilimanjaro.

True glory consists in doing what deserves to be written, in writing what deserves to be read.

Anyone else get a bug in ES2 where your pop bonus doesn't apply to the planet?

I'm playing Horatio and have this quest to take a shitty one-planet system that isn't part of any constellation then get its happiness up to 70. I took it no problem and now have 6 Horatio pops on it who all have +4 happiness but it just isn't applying at all, and upon closer inspection none of the other pop bonuses are applying to any of the FIDSI either.

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>>182863445
>>182863396
>>182863286
>>182863152
>>182863106
Where the fuck id it all go so wrong? V still had good quotes, iirc, right?

>>182863641
Most of the quotes in VI are fine, theres just a few awful meme ones because everything has a serious and a joke one and some of the joke ones are awful.

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Rough Riders are pointless. The +5 combat bonus for all units already ensures you own your entire continent early on therefore there is no reason to have a unit that specializes on your home continent.

The pointlessness of a fighter that specializes in anti-air is self evident as well.

Good thing America's other bonuses are good.

>>182863465
Is the planet hot though? Wouldn't be surprised if it's a bug anyway. ES2 is an unfinished, bug-ridden piece of early access shit after all.

>>182864000
America is a low tier civ in 6 because its UU's are just so bad and its bonus is pretty mediocre compared to the others.
nice digits

>>182864024
No the planet isn't hot, but the pop bonus has +4 happiness in addition to the +2 on hot planets because of some genes I spliced.

>Wouldn't be surprised if it's a bug anyway. ES2 is an unfinished, bug-ridden piece of early access shit after all.
Well, there is always that I guess.

>>182863891
>Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master
This was my favorite quote.

>>182864024
You misspelled Stellaris

>>182863891
>>182864170
Ironic how a sandnigger UN peacekeeper is the guy who acts like a Great Prophet for the situation 15 years later huh

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>>182864090
The bonuses are good, a lot more useful and victory oriented than other civ bonuses. The combat bonus is huge early game when combat makes the most sense. You can create the world's largest empire before anyone can hate you for it.

The national park bonuses can be very powerful if you have three or more strong holy districts and set aside plots of land before you even settle. Also use entertainment and culture districts to raise appeal where necessary. The Film Studio only compounds this cultural advantage.

America has perhaps the most reliable culture victory of any civ.

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>that time Firaxis tried making America's fittest president obese because "haha Americans are fat XD XD"

Are Jadwiga and her massive hips worth $5

>>182864928
Probably not, she's a fun civ to play and her scenarios nice but you're probably better waiting for a sale. If you really want a civ pack I prefer Australia, they have a neat scenario and their atomic era music is god tier, also their desert bonuses are a nice playstyle change.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNoy6AJ3-HY

>>182864801
Well I'd imagine the change was less because he looked fat and more because he looked like he had tumors in his cheeks