/civ4xg/ - Endless, Stellaris, Civilization, and 4X Games General

>>183001865
First for ZELEVAS

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Second for a peculiar technology

>>183002116
Lewd.

third for cravers of peace

Riftborn were literally made for bullying

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>>183002391
>play Horatio
>spawn beside Riftborn
>don't want to bully them
>have no choice

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>>183002391
Please do not bully the Riftborn.

>>183002590
*bullies*

UE were literally made for conquest

>>183002782
Yes they were made to engage in the glorious act of conquest of their foes!

So are all the riftborn tricks really useless except the +25% FIDSI one or am I missing some game-changing tactic?

>>183002858
Ghjallafire or whatever the laser you get from their quest if you pick military option is ridiculously good. Uses no strategic resources and IIRC it's as powerful as second tier strategic resource weapons.

in the midgame stage of stellaris at the moment, nothing is happening, should i just start attacking ppl now?

and how do i compelte the quests like look for X but u have no idea where X is? like im suppose to look in every star system til i find it?

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13th for zombie-horatio

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>>183004039

>>183004039
I dont know why but i have Phoenix Wright soundtrack playing in my head when i look at this screenshot
It's hilarious
God I need some sleep

>>183003601
Probably yeah. Stellaris mid-game is extremely dry of content so start doing something like expansion or aiming towards ascension paths. Megastructures aside from basic Voidborne perk are too expensive and take way too long to build to actually be fun so I wouldn't suggest wasting your time on those. The game only kicks into gear again at the end when FEs start awakening and one of the possible crises triggers.

>and how do i compelte the quests like look for X but u have no idea where X is?
Haven't played for a while, but if you're talking about tracking down dead civilization sites or whatever quest you get assigned at the beginning and there's no actual objective marker it just means to play and explore until the game decides to tell you there's new site for you to scan.

>>183003601
Idk, I'm pretty new. I'm stuck because rng keeps killing my scientists before they get to of 5 needed to research the involved projects

>>183003601
>nothing is happening
welcome to stalearis

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>>183003601

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>think you found that difficulty that's just right for you
>Play Sophons and get bullied out of existence super hard
>No anomalies in your system or the surrounding systems
>No cold planets that aren't tiny
>The one planet you find with anomalies is High Gravity/Irradiated

True suffering. Might go back to the Riftborn or Lumeris.

>>183005223
Already gimped by the new balance mod.
They got well and truly raped by the new planet happiness mechanic.

Endgame ES2 is so much more satisfying than endgame Stellaris.

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>siege a jewing clan city
>they sally out
>realize by the end of the fight that their militia has 500 health
I mean, it was still pretty easy, but what the hell.

Also, the stockpiles are beyond busted, holy shit.

>>183003601
>and how do i compelte the quests like look for X but u have no idea where X is? like im suppose to look in every star system til i find it?
Screenshot?

>>undefined
Wot

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Thanks, Gook.

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what the fuck

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>>183006238
Glad I'm not the only one who saw that.

>tomorrow
Knew /4xg/ had good taste.

>>183006238
>>183006293
>>183006139
I didn't have the window open and don't see it

>>183006349
4chan just itself for a bit.

Agrarian Idyll is completely overpowered and I feel bad for using it.

Also, just how bad is it to get 3 low level ethics instead of one high and one low? Pacifist/materialist/egalitarian is great.

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4chan water you doing

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>>183006104
both the hycanith and the irassians mission give no clue how to locate

>>183007258
The Hunt for the Hycinth bugs out if you explore all the nearby systems before it triggers.

Precursor, click on that tab to expand it to show any outstanding precursor missions you have and "track on map". You'll eventually find 6 of them.

>>183008264
>bugs out
the hell, hasnt the game been out for over a year?

>Precursor
when it expands, it only shows the one ive already completed, and i only found that by randomly going to that star system, which was already explored. maybe its another case of a bug where ive already explored the system

>>183009057
Yeah. I play Commonwealth of Man a lot because I like the whole "lost colony" angle. Quest bugs out if you explore too many planets in the early game, still not fixed in 1.7.2.

1 in 20 anomalies are precursor anomalies, just need to keep exploring, also never trade starcharts because that robs you of anomaly finding chances. Also the game throws precursor anomalies at you if you haven't found one in 20+ years, something like "While doing training exercises on planet X we found precursor artifacts" or "We raided a smuggler base and one of them told us of a precursor base on planet X"

>>183009057
>the hell, hasnt the game been out for over a year?
That's one of the more harmless bugs. The game is still riddled with them and each patch introduces more.

In this patch for me the unbidden portals always become neutral aliens after they build the first dimensional anchor, and they always sit all of their fleets right on top of it with a subspace snare in the middle. It's literally impossible for me to dislodge them because any ships I send to the system are dumped right in the center of ~2 million unbidden fleet power. I've even sent in all 6 million of my own at once and they got instantly vaporized.

Similarly the precursor event is super bugged out, I got the first 5 perfectly fine but for the last 400 years it gives me an event every few decades that places a new artifact on planet _. which doesn't actually spawn anything you can research, or a situation log entry. Every time they fix something they break something even worse.

>>183010081
interstellar artillery when

>>183010081
What a good videogame.

>>183010647
Hey, at least we're getting more portraits each patch... And combat that gets more and more gutted and anything even remotely nearing "powerful" or "meaningful choice" gets nerfed into the ground.
But at least there's portraits

>>183011613
Could be worse.
Could be getting paid portraits. :^)

>>183010081
>>183010647
>>183011613
>>183011942
*respectfully disagrees*

>>183012197
tone down that misogyny

>>183005912
What's up with stockpiles?
I bought EL in the sale but haven't played it yet because I've been hooked on ES2.

>>183012339
Stockpiles aren't anything special normally, but, as long as you raze shit left and right as Cultists, you'll get enough to keep them going indefinitely, at least on normal /fast speed.
Going from 250-400 industry and science straight to 1800-2000 feels pretty damn good.

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>Spawn next to fanatical purifiers
>they declare war
>wipe them out and enslave the few survivors
>somehow I'M the bad guy

>>183011613
wait what, what changes have they done to ruin combat. That shit is bare bones as it is.

>>183010081
>6 million
Screencaps please. I want to see that mess.

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>>183013641

I've barely played 5 but does 6 have the stupidest AI in the entire series? India and China have declared joint war on me and then begged for peace three times in this session. And what are the AI even trying to do with diplomacy? One turn we are best friends and then I change governments or I build a wonder and they fucking hate me.

>>183010081
>Similarly the precursor event is super bugged out, I got the first 5 perfectly fine but for the last 400 years it gives me an event every few decades that places a new artifact on planet _. which doesn't actually spawn anything you can research, or a situation log entry. Every time they fix something they break something even worse.
I've had this bug every time I even got remotely close to finishing a precursor chain.

Only once have I actually got all the things required.

And then went to the planet indicated and nothing happened.

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haven't played in a while, is slavery still shit?
to be more specific, do sector governors still enslave/free populations repeatedly until nobody's happy anymore?

Why aren't there any dank /civ4xg/ memes

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>>183015335
A bunch of good ideas that were just tossed into the mix with absolutely no thought for balance.

>>183015421
That one's been fixed.

>>183015495
DUDE

>>183015589
ETERNAL END

>>183015589
SCIENCE

>>183015335
The diplomatic AI is probably the worst in the series. NPCs routinely declare wars they cannot win (as expected in a Civ game), and then after losing a few units they'll surrender all of their art and money.

Worse yet is that even if you go through the significant effort of keeping NPC civs happy, they'll still attack you. If you do anything to them at all they'll hate you, which I think is to some extent intended in order to give the game more of a grand strategy feel and to penalize domination victories, but it doesn't actually seem to make them more likely to declare war on you so it doesn't matter.

>>183015589
DUST

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>>183015672
>>183015782
LMAO
LMAO
LMAO

>>183015754

Yes. It's like they designed a game with nothing but Alexanders and Didos.

terraforming doesnt increase habitability? wtf (stellaris)

>>183016791
Depends on what you're terraforming it to.

>>183015386
>And then went to the planet indicated and nothing happened
That used to be because the AI's science ships kept sniping the special anomaly.
Fortunately this has now been fixed

>>183016791
It does if you terraform it to one of your pop's preferences

>>183004039
perfection is immortal

>>183005164
don't give up on the meme scientists, you just got fucked over by RNG
as long as you can get those cold planets early you should be fine for pretty much the whole game, if AIs start getting frisky you just pay them off with shitty token sciences or some strategics you aren't using and push for your goddamn ridiculous science buffs

eventually, once you have enough of a science lead, you just pick one of your neighbors, pay them in technologies to enter an alliance with you, and then sic them on whoever you might be worried about

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Holy fuck.

>>183019593
we unfallen now

Stellaris Weaponization mod.
>Ship drive techs along with weapon techs open up weaponized uses of various forms of travel.
>Warp bubble technology to improve shields and missiles
>Hyperdrive technology to improve armor and energy weapons
>Wormhole technology improves kinetics, and (evasion?)
>Only buffs ships that have that drive

>Ethos technology paths
>Egalatarians get riot/unhappiness bombard stances, and possibly warscore generation depending how much of pop in target civ is affected. Gotta research and be egalitarian to use.
>Authoritarians get slave corvette and strike craft techs, which are cheaper than usual. Hilariously expensive if you aren't authoritarian.
>Xenophiles research species diversity bonuses for their fleets.
>Xenophobes get ???
>Spiritualists get some cheap unity techs?
>Materialists get specialization upgrades for spaceports, such as improved cruiser assembly yards -- maybe also a strike craft count upgrade with robot/droid techs and good enough computer tech?
>Militarists probably don't need much if anything.
>Pacifists get defensive station augmentation techs, like improved frontier outposts defenses, reduction of military station 'blockout' range for multilayering of stations, maybe also an eventual 'frontier outpost' military station aura for maximum fuckery.

Can someone tell me where in the Bible it says that robots are forbidden?

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So what's the best way to integrate fanatic purifiers into an empire?

Liberate, vassalize then annex?

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is this a glitch or did earf just get cucked? happened to in Civ 5 as well one time where the ruler of babylon switched to the native guy

>>183020687
Well considering they have a federation going its safe to assume that they have aliens living on their worlds. And they probably have the alien leaders thing on so that dude got voted in as the president.

>>183020687
the jew reached its final form

>>183020665
yes

>>183021013
the spider dudes (neoborite) were part of a different federation tho (Star Pact) that was at war with the Beneficial Concord. Star Pact lost hard, so why is a neoborite the leader of the winning side?

did i miss an alert or does the game not tell u these developments?

>>183021365
If they lost a war then they probably had planets liberated away. The new empire would have a migration treaty.

Can anyone tell me if food is global or local and if local, system or planet?

>>183022114
For what game?

If Stellaris it's global.

>>183021365
You should be purging them anyway, what do you care about the kings they install in their folly?

>>183021365
Migration treaty, UN of Earth of is fanatic egalitarian so xeno can become leaders. 100 years into the game UN of Earth always seems to have been culturally enriched to the point where they always have xeno leaders.

>>183022384
Yeah, Stellaris. I read somewhere that building spaceports with an orbital farm was a good idea to increase the birth rate, but if it's global it doesn't matter where the food comes from.

>>183023569
Originally it was planet based. They changed it so it's global. Orbital arms+solars on every space port isn't a bad idea though.

>>183023569
The main upsides of building an orbital hydroponics in spaceports are two fold:
1 - it doesn't take a pop or planet space to work, and massive food surpluses are mostly unimpressive
2 - it isn't tied to the planet so any food anywhere helps prevent starvation equally.

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>>183024174
I see, kinda figured it would be important to have the population in that planet grow faster towards 5 so you can finally make the upgrades. So while I still will do it, I won't give it such a high priority anymore.

>>183020302
>"Thou shalt not build a machine in the likeness of the human mind"
t. Orange Catholic Bible

>>183004494
You are now manually imagining an Ace Attorney kind of game with Endless characters

>Horatio Prime OBJECTIONs because the opponent is not Horatio, and even if they are, their facts are not as Prime as Horatio Prime

>>183023569
> . I read somewhere that building spaceports with an orbital farm was a good idea
It is a good idea. Slightly less good since the 1.5 patch, but still a good idea.
Solar collectors too, +3 energy a month on every planet is a godsend early / early-mid game when you're scrubbing for pocket change.

>>183025798
+50% growth when food production surplus=pop
+100% growth when food surplus=2x pop
+200% growth when food surplus=4x pop

>>183027379
I thought it was a continuum.
Is it really the case that, if I have 150 pops, having 149 food surplus is no different to having 1 food surplus?

>>183025798
As growth rates are MOSTLY a by species thing for the empire the only actual ways to hit 5 pops faster on a specific planet are:

Build Robots (independent growth at fixed rate regardless of pop or food)

Migrate pops around (use influence to micromanage pops for upgrading the shelter sooner)

Build/use planet specific growth/habitability boosters (frontier clinics, terraforming, Visitor's Centers, Consecrate Planet if utopia)

Global food surplus according to: +50% per 1 food surplus per 1 pop.
Having 150 pops and 149 surplus will get 49.66% growth speed.

Can you purge integrated ayylmaos?

>>183028551
Yes.

Is it possible to see the rate at which population is decreasing for planets the Vodyani are harvesting? I'm trying to suck Horatio out of existence.

>>183017680
It hasn't, it literally happened to me an hour ago with the cybrex.

>>183030774
you'll probably need a couple fleets of leechers to get a food negative on horatio if you're going after horatio prime

>>183030963
Cybrex is differen to all the others with regards to snipe-ability. Post 1.5 the ringworld isnt scannable any more (because it's a destroyed megastructure rather than a bunch of pseudo-planets) and so the Cybrex quest completion is supposed to trigger the moment you warp into the system.
However, this should make it *less* snipe-able, not more, so idk what the fuck went wrong in your case.

>>183030589
I really really really like this image

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literally what the fuck

>>183038735
blame wiz.

>>183038735
>>183039259
that's enough, less of the misoginy or prepare to get *respectfully disagreed* with

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>>183013641
Soviet Union in a nutshell

>>183039685
*respectfully disagree*

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>>183039790
*disrespectfully disagree*

>>183039940
*disrespectfully agree*

>>183041312
That's a weird 4X

>>183041312
[X] Declare war

>>183038735
What's their AI personality and what's your settings for galactic planet density?

I naïvely assume that border friction increases as planet occurance decreases, because "the closest planet to our borders" is 20 times further away at x0.25 than at x5, but then on the other hand Wiz is definately too intellectually lazy to realise this and too practically lazy to implement it. Also planet distances are misogynist.

Stellaris's soundtrack is great
its so easy on the ears and relaxing that you could listen to it for 8 hours straight and not even realise it is there

Why every other empires hate me even the furthest ones? Stop hating me I just want some research agreement Reeeee

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>only updated torrents for Endless Space 2 are Russian botnets that don't even install the English version properly

Guess I'll wait for a Steam sale instead of gambling with my harddrive

>>183044545
Are you Horatio?

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>tfw your Archeologist gets Carefree

>>183044330
>you could listen to it for 8 hours straight and not even realise it is there
I'm not sure how you can have "I forget about it even while it's playing" as a criteron of GOOD music.
I always turn it off and listen to synthwave instead, that's how you feel like you're living in the future

>>183044545
The only way you can get other empires to like you in Stellaris is to rival the people they rival. Gifts, no. Unilateral guarantees of military support, no. Nothing else works but shared hatred of third parties.
You basically have to pick a side in every dispute in the galaxy and denounce the other guy.

>>183046983
Its nice calm background music
Usually I 'forget' that it is there because I end up focused too much on the game
The games music is Calming, gentle on the ears and doesn't try to get your attention or distract you
thats why its perfect for the game, you can listen to it loud as fuck yet you don't end up putting too much attention into it

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I dont even know why i did this

Blump

DEAD

>>183048739
fucking kek

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4gDWYS8pfU

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>>183048739
That's a decent meme.

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>>183051314
Well he reached the limit of fun in 1 hour rather than 2 playthroughs, but he has at least diagnosed the problem: that Stellaris is only good for RP and everything else is repetitive mine-building.

10

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Any love for AoW3?

Civ5, I'm thinking about playing on Prince(normal), is it much harder than Warlord(easy)?

>>183057652
No. Everything below Immortal is really easy.

>>183055179
I liked it, though I remember AoW1 more fondly.

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>>183048739

>>183048739
True art.

Are cultists limited at all as far as ocean and fortress control?

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> this is your brain on Wiz AI

>>183062021
They obviously can't build or buy ships if their capital doesn't happen to be on the coast.

>>183055179
Bought the game on last sale and I'm playing the Elven Court campaign on Hard. Currently on Bormac Orcbane's level.

What is the equivalent difficulty for random maps and scenarios anyways? Story campaign has Easy / Normal / Hard, but the non-campaign game modes have Squire / Knight / Lord / King / Emperor for AI difficulty.

what civ are they gonna add next

>>183063794
canada led by justin trudeau

>>183063881
geared towards cultural victory obviously

>>183064027
if your enemy takes your capital, you win

So, 1.8 will let you genetically alter and change the name of a species, right?

So, I could conceivably start out as a species that believes in their self-divinity, then genetically 'uplift' other species so that they have the same traits my species does, and rename them so that they have my species' name?

I can spread our genetic perfection like a gospel?

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>>183064408
> Kill first enemy unit
> "Arabia has won the game!"

>>183064694
You can be Horatio.

>>183064694
You can certainly change the name of the species under some circumstances, although whether it's at will / every GM is not obvious.

>>183064694
I really, really hope they let you change the species portrait
It would be fucking Great to be able to technically purge species by making them identical to mine in every single way, especially if the game then recognises them as being mine instead of their own separate species

>>183065248
Technically, you can do that as a Synthetic Empire, because we can finally assimilate.

In Stellaris (without Utopia) how to genocide a race without the entire galaxy hating your guts?

>>183065492
Genocide every race but the ones that don't complain.

I've triggered the Reckoning in Stellaris hoping I could see the Galaxy burn and so far I'm disappointed. I don't know if it somehow despawned or if the AI empires somehow killed it despite no one having anything near 300k let alone 1M, but I can't find it anywhere. The shroud fragments/creatures don't even swarm around the galaxy reeking havok they just sit on top of my former planets waiting to get picked off when I eventually rebuild. AI rebellion at least had more flavor this is just ominous build up to a nothing "crisis"

Is the game bugging out or is the Reckoning actually this gay?

>>183065426
How? I went synth checked everywhere and can't find squat on how the fuck to do it.
like I even lost the ability to turn pop into cyborgs though genemod which I could do before going synth

>>183065621
There seems to be something wrong with enemy aggression all over the game at the moment. In my current one half the third-party wars go to White Peace because the AI never moves its ships.
My expectation is that the Reckoning will be somewhere in the galaxy but it'll just be sat over a planet doing nothing.

>>183065492
Go Authoritarian and displace. It's actually my preferred method of cleansing as in the time it takes for them to fuck off I can terraform and fix the AI's shitty building placement in time to resettle some ubermensch on it, without needing to do it all from scratch.

>>183065936
Not yet, but in 1.8 patch. Synth empires will have a purge option to turn meatbags into synths.

>>183066454
will those empire get a permanent modifier towards you?
>-100, "We didn't ask for this."

>>183066132
Wouldn't it appear as a hostile ship on the galaxy view somewhere? I swear I've looked everywhere and its nowhere to be found.

>>183066454
I really, really wish they would stop teasing the fucking patch
I hate it when Devs do this shit
It like "oh look at all this awesome stuff we are adding, see you in maybe eight months when it might be done"
especially since I play on and off because I get burnt out of games like these and whenever I hear that there is new shit coming 'soon' I end up not wanting to play the game until it comes out because I don't want to be tired of the game when the new shit comes out

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>>183066809
I would think so.
If you've got a full Sentry Array and can't see it, then fair play, I guess it's gone.
Maybe the AI did take it out. In my games the AEs usually smash the Unbidden despite being up shit creek with regards to fleet power in the engagement.

>>183066973
And then when the patch finally comes with all the shiny shit, all your favourite mods are out of date.

>>183066973
This. If they were teasing a hot new game mode and cool new things to do I wouldn't mind, but Stellaris updates are categorically "check out all this shit we are finally fixing!"

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>>183063881
>Not William Lyon Mackenzie King aka. Billyboy "The Kingslayer"
Get this casual shit outta here

>>183067138
I only use cosmetic mods anyway
worst case I would temporarily lose a bunch of emblems, ship/city appearance, races and other shit like that

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>>183067539
I lost my Beautiful Backgrounds when I opted in to the 1.7.2 beta for the shrimp portrait, and I'm still stuck looking at the shitty default backdrop to this day.

https://www.games2gether.com/endless-space-2/forums/66-game-design/threads/27427-g2g-balance-mod-feedback?page=1#post-244268

Vodyani getting more law changes
>* Change the vodyani version of Species Stability to something that actually helps rough starts, instead of helping already snowbally starts. +20 tribute on systems would be good, since that would guarantee the first extra population in about the same time as other races get their first colony finished (at the cost of some influence).
>You’re right! I added a flat value of +15 on systems, and kept the +2 per pop.

>With the mod active, Vodyani no longer has access to the tier 4 religous law Peace and Prayer Act. Not that it is any useful anyway, but something probably went wrong there
>We replaced the law by an Vodyani variant but it cannot work without gameplay code; that's why it's not in the mod. The law will immune Ark to pacific conversion and provide Essence per systems under Vodyani influence..

Horatio as well
>The ecologist laws still don't make much sense for Horatio (the only ecologist empire) since they encourage racial diversity and ultimately Horatio wants to be a one race (person) empire.
>I get your point! I’ll look into providing alternate laws for Horatio for the last 2 laws.

>>183067880
>Horatio
>Not perfect
What did they mean by this?

>>183067880
>Meedoc: *Respectfully Agrees!*
>wiz: No, that is misogynist. This thread is now closed.

>>183067745
speaking of that does the beta add or change anything significant?
I cant find any info about what it does
also fuck you 4chan this post is not fucking Spam

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>>183067880
diversity is (not) strength

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>>183068341
My understanding is that it's a technical patch for multiplayer.
And I've never played multiplayer once, so if it does anything, I'm not in a position to notice.
I just wanted muh shrimpy d00d

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Is civ6 still stupidly broken? Should I update my pirated copy?

>>183068609
Wait for the patch that is rumored to hit this month.

>>183068609
Get the uninstall update.

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>>183068962
Geuss I will wait for that I can't wait to try to take on Poland ai on an Earth map as the Eternal krauts.

>>183001865
How can you tell that dismantling your outpost has become useless due to other outposts and colonies covering the relevant systems?

>>183071338
Try it then load a save if you don't like it.

>>183071515
Would be nice if there was a mapmode that showed you all the overlapping borders.

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How do I deal with unhappiness generate by population?

>>183071715
It's a little trickier than that since the borders push out and up against other borders to determine how far they go. Outposts in the middle of your territory also have a contributing effect to pushing your borders outwards as well. If you're still in the early game it may well be that deleting even what seems like a useless outpost may lose you a swath of lucrative systems on the edge of your border. Then again, you could just rebuild the outpost on the border to reclaim them, or build it then immediately delete the old one, if you can spare the minerals.

Otherwise testing it then reloading the save is the quickest way to check.

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I finally did it, you guys.

>>183072553
by keeping them happy anon

>>183073034
What was your strategy?

>>183073337
dont suck

>>183072553
Get more luxuries. Build more happiness buildings like coliseums, stone works and circuses.

>>183073337
nukes

>>183066425
How to change purge type? It seems like it auto set to extermination when I make them undesirable unless I set my purge policy to displacement only. I actually wanna try neutering them and see if the galaxy still hate me or if that is ok.

>>183074398
Set species rights, either from the species list or click on one of the pops on a planet and set rights.

>>183074398
Neutering is Utopia-only iirc, never tried it since it seemed like it'd take longer while displacement is relatively quick and has zero opinion penalty anyway.

>>183074589
Yeah that is where I set them to undesirable. However there is no option on how undesirable they should be.

>>183074821
Last item on the list, purge type.

>>183075002
I guess that is utopia only. Oh well then I'll just change the policy.

>>183074768
I recently tried neutering, and it takes fucking forever. Displacement is absolutely faster.

Thanks guys for the info. But seriously though why the fuck would the other empire care what I did to my citizens. It is absolutely none of their business.

>>183075238
Would be neat if Displacement worked like they they described it in the dev blogs, where the displaced would either go to an other empire or colonize a planet somewhere on their own.

>>183075361
When some nearby space aliens brutally murder billions of other space aliens it's understandably natural to fear that they'd do the same to you.

The way they've chosen to represent it ingame is completely illogical and disproportionate to the point of making it an unplayable feature, though. Fanatic purifiers shouldn't be just as horrified of you as xenophiles are when you're basically doing their job for them, and since the malus is massive and applied to every single regular empire in the galaxy it always makes them band together against you without exception regardless of any other concerns, effectively rendering all other diplomatic opinions pointless as a feature when Genocidal simply overrides them all.

>>183076410
>imthebadguy.jpg

>>183073034
I got that achievement by playing rome on a 1 turn map.

Is there any justifiable reason why Special Projects can't be done like Anomalies where you can prioritize them without removing all previous commands? Because this is dumb.

>>183080417
Paradox.

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>>183075361
>But seriously though why the fuck would the other empire care what I did to my citizens. It is absolutely none of their business.
t. Xi Jinping

>>183066973
>whenever I hear that there is new shit coming 'soon' I end up not wanting to play the game until it comes out because I don't want to be tired of the game when the new shit comes out
Same, but for ES2 in my case. I can wait fighters and bombers, but there's also lots of critical balance related stuff that the devs have confirmed to be working on, even outright told how exactly they're going to change things, and now I spend more time refreshing the official forums for more dev messages instead of actually playing the game.

>>183080417
ctrl+shift allows you to issue commands to be done before other queued orders

>>183075238
Does neutering kill everyone off on the same day 40 years from now, or does it whittle down the populatuon gradually?
I ask because I want a purge method that lets me kill most but not quite all of an enemy species.
I like to do the xenophile FE thing and set up my own The Preserve

>>183082926
It's cheating, but when I want to get rid of all but one pop, I use a mod that lets you sell slave-pops to a slaver enclave.

Otherwise, I'm pretty sure displacement is a bit gradual.

>>183082521
That's what you get for buying unfinished games.

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What combination of weapons and armor is best against xenophobic FE? They bullied me for 200 years it's time to enslave them.

>>183082521
>. I can wait fighters and bombers
oh is that just a NYI thing? I saw that one of my ship classes was carrier but it just had regular gun slots.

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>>183085506
Yeah, strike craft were supposed to be in the game by "full" release but were cut due to time constraints. If you were there for initial launch the game was in a very rough state in general and still kind of is, hence the number of negative reviews. Definitely a rushed release from early access.

They're supposedly adding them in a free update at later point. I can't find the exact dev post but I think they said by the end of summer.

>>183082926
>Does neutering kill everyone off on the same day 40 years from now, or does it whittle down the populatuon gradually?
Gradually.

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>>183055179
I'm trying to make a mod giving most units (specially the ones in small regiments) multiple unique appearances, but I can't figure out how to make some shit work in the unit editor and it's

Right now I'm specifically trying to give the Frost Giants weapons from the Skyrim Stalhrim weapons mod, but they are invisible when I test them in-game, which is pretty frustrarting.

>>183085338
http://www.stellariswiki.com/Fallen_empire#Militant_Isolationists_2
Think of some counters based on this info here, or else just stack kinetic artillery and blast them with a bigger fleet.

>bombard a pre-FTL planet to evict the aliens
>it turns into an unterraformable toxic world
What the fug

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>>183088448
Thank you anon, upgrading all my shit based on that.

Anyone here successfully defeated the End of the Cycle before?

>>183090513
Back when utopia launched it would normally die to the first AE/Crisis it found thanks to having glitched shield regen.

Would ringworlds be worth building if they had twice the number of sections for the same cost?

>>183087674
Hate to say it but you should really ask on the official forum's modding section, the devs are pretty responsive and the only people really knowledgable about AoW3 modding are only active there.

>>183089537
The idea of a proud and ancient race who once commanded mastery of science and ruled the galaxy for tens of thousands of years meeting their ignoble ends toiling in the mines, as livestock and/or sex slaves brings me no end of schadenfreude.

Kinda like with elves but on a galactic scale.

Stellaris newfag here
So since rockets are garbage, do I go for energy or kinetic? Also, what's the best way to counter enemies with only kinetic weaponry? Shields or armor? A mix of both?

>>183092910
A mix of uninstalling the game and forgetting about it forever.

>>183093732
To play what instead?

Thanks to agrarian idyll, my unity output is ridiculous. I've just got my third ascension perk before I've researched battleships, but I'm not sure what tree to go for next. I've finished discovery, harmony, and prosperity. I'm a pacifist materialist xenophobe.

I've opened supremacy as vassalising is my only way to expand. I'm probably going to finish domination, though. Thoughts?

>>183094062
nothing

>>183092910
Armor

>>183092507
I have a mod that allows you to use turn more races that join you after you go full synth into synths themselves
I love doing it to Spiritualist Fallen empires after they become horrified after what I did, to them it would be a fate worse than death

I just wish there was other ways to properly RP being a megadick to the other Fallen empires
Like If I go genetic engineering I can turn the Militarists into the weakest most physically pathetic Race in the universe and with Xenophiles I can just neuter them
Only way I could think of for Xenophobes is if I were to find a mod or something that let you somehow change a species portrait into others, then I could turn them into physically my species

>>183092910
I always do kinetic just because gigacanons are effective as fuck in massive numbers especially with increased fire rate bonuses.

In terms of fighting enemies with only kinetic armor is the best way to go.

So whats up with that voiceover pack they're doing for Stellaris? Is it going to be DLC or included in an update?

>>183095193
Part of the next Utopia style DLC, you'll need to buy your throatcancer woman.

>>183095272
At least the addition of VO stuff now opens a new area for modders to dick around in.

>>183095193
>free
hahaha oh wow

>>183095490
>X stuff now opens a new area for modders to dick around in.
That's basically the only thing the past few dev diaries have managed to excite me with.

>>183092507
>not wanting to BE the elves

>Spiritualist, xenophobe and pacifist
>Agrarian idyll and inward perfection
I don't think there is much more I can do to maximise unity production for a race.
I don't know what the fuck I could want with so much unity but fuck it

>>183096768
Sadly that just means a game-over here.

>>183096951
This is Wiz' fault.

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>Gandhi
>guard

Oh,fuck. He was friendly a while ago.

>>183094484
>>183096883
In my game I maxed out unity completely in 200 years. As in, finished every tree and just let it bloat up until it hit the integer limit and stopped being produced.

It all feels like a waste once you get there but I can't be assed to clear out over a hundred planets' worth of temples and hypercomms.

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Reminder:

>>183097082
wtf I hate women now

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>>183097478

>>183097319
NUKESNUKESNUKES

>>183097478
>that first one
Seriously, eat shit Wiz.
Aggressive women give me a boner, they dont upset me

>>183097631
>65 people agree compared to 93 who disagree
What the fuck is wrong with people supporting Wiz after that?

>>183097875
The underage, the redditors and the retarded.

>>183097875
>Implying that's not the full Paradox studio jumping to the rescue

>>183098083
You just said the same thing 3 times anon.

>>183084910
>I use a mod that lets you sell slave-pops to a slaver enclave.

Wasn't that mod sadly abandoned?

>>183097478
The eternal swede

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>>183097875
It's probably due to this:

>>183097478
>>183097631

I don't even understand how preferring male voices would be misogynistic.

>>183098201
Yes, but it's not like Paradox has changed anything about Enclaves since they were introduced, so it still works fine.

Should I annex or puppet city in Civ5?

Or puppet first and annex later?

>>183100036
If you can take the happiness hit, puppet it first, then annex it. If you can afford to annex it, just annex it.

>>183100706
If you can't* take the happiness hit.

>>183100036
Usually puppet first unless you have something like Order's Iron Curtain tenet which gives you a free Courthouse on capture and only works if you annex instantly, or have Civs that have bonuses for razing cities and can do it quickly. When waging war, captured cities are hit with two happiness penalties: first for being conquered that goes away after a while (it's faster if your tourism is influential with the conquered enemy) and the second penalty for having an *annexed* city without a Courthouse. Not to mention you'll also be hit with regular happiness penalties from simply owning more cities and population. In the end it's a matter of whether you can take the big happiness penalty.

Also to note is that annexed and all other cities you own increase the cost of social policies, but puppeted cities don't.

>>183097478
>be wiz
>know your audience are mostly men
>call them all misogynists for no good reason
>get into a pointless shitfight on the forums

Why is he so fucking retarded and unprofessional? Why do they let him get away with being so retarded and unprofessional?

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>>183102627
This is why:

>>183097478
>we actually are not a fan of militarists sounding like rabies infested space barbarians
>you just hate aggressive women
What did Wiz mean by this?

why is Es2 so boring

>>183104269
Because it's early access.

>>183104269
Because the choices you should make are too obvious after you know the tech tree well enough and there's no superficial feature like hex grid maneuvering to distract you from the monotony. Watching your empire grow is only satisfying if you have large influence, and even then they're just number on a screen so you don't have a real sense of building a thriving empire. You kind of have to make it fun by really challenging yourself to to hard things.

>>183104269
because space 4x is inherently inferior to ground-based 4x

>>183107000
Theres just something so disconnected about the experience, you're looking at dots at the ends of lines on a map and occasional clicking a bit of concept art to build something. The techs always end up hard to associate with too, with a ground based RTS its easy to go "ahh gunpowder, I can imagine this" its harder to go "ahh neural quantum realignment reactors, I can imagine this"

What are some really fucking old 4X games
I am bored and feel like playing something potentially completely shit

>>183107415
Some of the best 4x's are the old ones though anon

>>183100036
You should only ever annex cities that have a large production base. Not just to get a courthouse quickly, but because income/science/culture is already given to you so the only thing you get out of annexing is control over what it's building. There are some exceptions to this; if you're going the 'multiple religious buildings + order' route, cities can end up being happiness neutral regardless. But other than that there's little reason not to keep them puppeted.

>>183063782
I played my first game on Knight and it was easy as fuck. The AI couldn't have been more passive. I hope it gets better on higher difficulty.

>>183107515
Well, recommend me some then.

>>183109926
My favorite Civ is Civ2.

>>183110536
I want space though.

>>183110856
SMAC is pretty great.

>>183110856
Master of Orion 1 and 2

>>183107269
Amplitude is bad at tech trees. Endless Legends techs are hard to relate to as well, whereas tech trees in other space-based 4X games (SotS, Stellaris, various Civ 4 mods) make sense.

>>183111156
Guess that's the price of going with spess magick

how do i make es2 enjoyable? the combat i still dont understand how the phases and ranges work all that well. Like i cant get my plasma cutter niggers to be point blank on warp in sometimes, while other times they are.

The trading companies are neat concept, but how close should they be to their subsidiary? so many questions!

Is system trading in Stellaris broken? Nobody wants to take my systems even if I offer them up for free.

>>183003341
100 percent to hero xp is insane on heroes assigned to systems with the singularity active. Also being able to settle lava planets early on is pretty good as well.

>>183112239
>phases
Every battle has 3 phases that are equally long, unless the opposite force gets completely annihilated in earlier phases in which case the battle concludes there.

>ranges
The tactic card you choose is your flotillas' range *intention*, and the actual ranges are also modified by your opponent's choices. You can see your opponent's chosen card for each battle as well, right? Flotillas always try to advance to their range intention set by the tactic card: first phase of the battle always starts from the longer range flotilla's position and advances to shorter range each phase until the shorter range flotilla's range *intention* is met.

F.ex. one flotilla vs. one flotilla's ranges in each phase dictated by chosen cards
Long vs. Long = Long, Long, Long (because both sides have long range *intention* for the flotilla)
Long vs. Medium = Long, Medium, Medium (advances to shorter range in second phase and stays there because it's the opponent's range *intention*)
Long vs. Short = Long, Medium, Short (advances each phase)
Medium vs. Medium = Medium, Medium, Medium (same range intention)
Medium vs. Short = Medium, Short, Short (starts at medium because it's longer range intention and advances to short in next phase)
etc.

Flotillas *always* fire to their opposite enemy flotillas first until they're destroyed, then they shift to firing other surviving enemy flotillas. Attacks made this way always count as Long range no matter the flotilla's actual range intention.


>Like i cant get my plasma cutter niggers to be point blank
If you're talking about beams, they're extremely situational. Despite their massive firepower they can only fire from Short range and as such they're easily countered by the enemy simply picking Long range intentions because then your ships to have spend 2/3 of the entire fight advancing before being able to fire, as per the Long vs. Short example above. Would suggest sticking to basic weapons first.

>>183114364
No I mean the other singularities like fold and rip. They seem entirely useless.

>>183112239
>Making it enjoyable
On making it enjoyable play on fast for your turn settings. It improves the pacing of the game considerably especially since you won't be fighting small space battles for too long.

>>18311527
Beam weapons are such a trap- especially since ships can't support other flanks using them- they need to at least give them a small chance to hit at med.

>>183113936
It's not trading that's broken, it's diplo in grneral. Mostly because the reason AIs fon't like you (and thus refuse to deal with you) is left so opaque.

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bump
I'm purging the galaxy with massive clusters of RGB corvettes and every single space fight lights up my room like a gay disco bar.

>>183111156
I thought ES1's was fantastic desu.

Endless Legend's should never have seen the light of day though.

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about to start my first ever deity game
wish me luck

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>>183122510
fuck

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>>183045695
Sequel or Remaster WHEN?

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>>183122701
>continents
>small

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>>183064694
DEMU

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>>183122137

should i just play civ 5 complete pack instead of civ 6

>>183125674
yeah

>>183098369
Doubtful. That's just pdox saying don't clutter the forum with "Wiz is a faggot " or "im gonna boycott the dlc" threads

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IT IS TIME TO DISCUSS LATE GAME CORVETTE BUILDS AND HOW NEUTRON TORPEDOES ARE THE GREATEST CORVETTE WEAPON OF ALL TIME
>70 range
>Large weapon damage in a small weapon slot
>point defense useless
>shits on shields
>75%+ evasion nigga
>90% accuracy
>stupid fast
hot damn, my erection is powerful right now. my only question now is: plasma cannons or mining lasers?

>Fanatic Egalatarian for superior 20% world energy production edict
>Corporate Dominion, 10%
>Thrifty, 15%
>Cosmic Ray Catalysis, 5%
>Synthetic ascendancy, 20%

>20 and 15 % pop energy production
>5 and 10% empire energy production

Literal solar panel race.

>>183126697
> using a delayed time of flight weapon
Enjoy wasting 80% of your firings, faggot

>decide to come back to civ vi
>Scythia still hasn't been nerfed

what the fuck is wrong with firaxis

>>183126697
I feel like that's gonna have a bad time against a regular ol missile corvette.

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>>183127146
>not knowing that neutron torpedos have the same flight speed as energy cannons
hows it feel to be a scrub?

>>183126767
Thrifty and synthetic ascension don't stack because you lose all your gene traits when you have sex with a robot and replace your species with robot babies.

Also edicts are massively UP and you should never ever use them.

Other than that, OK/10

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>>183127332
Huh. I admit I did not know that.
OK, *I'm* the faggot, I'll give it a try

New to stellaris, started as devouring swarm and ran over a bunch of bird people. Now i've got 4 planets full of them and it says it's going to take 10 years to eat them all.
Do i just need to send a colony ship full of my guys to each planet so they eat them faster or what?
And it appears i'm forced into letting some of my planets govern themselves. How badly are they going to get mismanaged by the computer? Do i just choose some that i've been able to fill out with buildings and add them to a sector?

>>183127190
Claiming that female civs are too powerful is misogyny.

So how do you go peaceful route in endless space 2?

>we're refugees trying to survive
>time slows your system

>we're peaceful trees
>root annex your system, nothing personnel hummie

They won't accept peace when I'm weak and not threat. They won't accept peace when I can wipe the floor with them. They won't accept peace even when I cuck half of my treasure to them?!!

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>>183130467
>Do i just need to send a colony ship full of my guys to each planet so they eat them faster or what?
your guys should naturally migrate to the planet. the conquered people just count as farms, untill they die AFAIK.
>And it appears i'm forced into letting some of my planets govern themselves. How badly are they going to get mismanaged by the computer?
very badly, make sure you check all the boxes in sector settings except "build military bases"
>Do i just choose some that i've been able to fill out with buildings and add them to a sector?
thats what i do. get a good base down then add it to the sector. then move to the new planets and manage them to a decent spot to add to the secotr in turn.

>>183130467
> Do i just need to send a colony ship full of my guys to each planet so they eat them faster or what?
The presence of your pops will do nothing to hasten the processing, no. The 10 years thing is a hard limit.
However, you SHOULD send some of your pops to the bird planets for a different reason: once all the birds are kill, if there's no pops on the planet at all it won't be considered "yours" and will just become an uncolonized planet again. So put at least one of your doods there using the "Resettle Pops" function.

As for sectors - yes, sectors will fuck your planets up, the AI has been broken since launch a d Paradox shows no sign of having the capability to fix it. Here's how you minimize the damage:
On sector settings, tick Balanced economy, Respect Tile Resources ON, Space Construction ON, Redevelop Tiles OFF.
Then, before placing any planet in a sector, put the appropriate Lv1 buildings you want on every tile. Don't leave the AI with any decisions to make, because it will usually make it wrong.

>>183127190

They already removed the horse economy exploit. What more do you want?

>>183130916
>peaceful route
>4x

>>183130916
You don't. Why would you even want to?

>>183130916
Usually they will accept peace on first contact. The Diplo in the game is kind of weird to say the least. The other important thing is you want to sweeten the deal with luxuries and strategic resources rather simply a large sum of dust as the ai responds better for some reason to a diverse basket of goods.

Is it worth it to repair broken ringworlds?

Why is it called 4x games not 4e games?

>>183133328
because you touch yourself at night

>>183131172
>>183131530
I think i may have fucked up.
I tried to move some of my people to the planets so they can use the stuff there, but i can't. None of the birds' planets are habitable enough for me.
Now there's a bunch of empty buildings draining my energy shekels and 10 years worth of unhappy bird people that i can't genocide because they look tasty.
Do i just start over?

I'm fucking sick of the vanilla Stellaris sector AI

>enable redevelopment and watch max level labs replaced with farms
>enable respect tile resources and watch them never build betharian plants
>enable military stations and watch your energy income dry up overnight
>enable robots and watch power plants being run by fucking tin cans

There's literally no sector preference that the AI can handle without shitting the bed. NOTHING. A fucking AI mod made by a basement dweller is leagues ahead of the basic logic baked-in by a bunch of Swedish frauds. A FUCKING MOD.

>>183133328
The X Makes It Sound Cool

>>183133328
The term was coined in the 90s when xtreme cool letterz was all the rage.

>>183133328
4E doesn't sound as cool.

>Hey what games do you play?
>I play 4E games
>That sounds lame

>Hey what games do you play?
>I play 4X games
>That's interesting

>>183133430
You can turn buildings you control off or outright dismantle them if you think you're going to lose the entire planet regardless. Select the building and click the disable button do that for all the empty buildings. As for getting your pops there before you eat them idk fampai you might be out of luck put a military station around the planet so you can eventually colonize it or teraform it later.

>>183133542
Just colonize more planets LMAO

>>183112239
>Trading companies
From my understanding trade company dust generation is largely dictated by their level; subsidaries seem to only produce more luxury resources that are on their system when buying trade convoys for your companies and increase dust generation by creating another trade route for your companies

>>183133542
Daily reminder that it took Paradox multiple patches (>1) to finally stop sector AI from repeatedly enslaving and freeing entire populations until everyone's happiness hit the red.

>>183133556
This sentence reminds me of an animal which is black and white in colour.

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>>183133542
I was using a mod for sectors by my second playthrough, AI is braindead in this game.

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>>183133430
you can demmolish the buildings, also, convert any farms you have in your home systems into something else.

>>183132813
No.
Stellaris unfortunately has many, many mechanics (army modules, megastructures, species rights, different species as a whole, happiness, edicts, government reform - ones just off the top of my head) which are just a waste of time and money, existing only as RP fluff. And sadly for new players they serve as confusing red herrings because only practice really teaches you which mechanics are actually of any practical use.
Megastructures are exclusively prestige meme projects for when you get to the endgame and your economy explodes to the extent you literally have no other way to spend your money.

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>>183133430
>None of the birds' planets are habitable enough for me.
hives get like... +20 to habitability tho....

>>183133430
Welcome to devouring swarm, enjoy your stay.
Recommended to:
A: Check the delicious world type of delicious puny foes before conquering -- a habitable world is a much more delicious world.
B: Increase habitability bonus from +15% to 20 or 25% ASAP so all non-tomb worlds are habitable (atmospheric filtering, strategic resource.
C: Probably swap to the largest surplus as soon as you conquer any world with more than 3 delicious pops.
D: Force cedes on worlds with LESS pops // still some open spaces so you can shuffle the energy eating bastards to an unbuilt spot where they'll still give food.

>>183132642
>>183132701
Because at some point I prefer making them my vassal cuckbois over blobing and adding more shit to micro

>>183133430
If there's no pop on them, the buildings auto-deactivate and don't cost you any money, so don't worry about that.

As for starting over, you're still doing breddy gud. Exterminating an early neighbour isn't quite as good as capturing the planets of an early neighbour, but it's still a breddy gud start.

>>183134290
ignore this poster.
literally everything he said is just fucking flat wrong.
except edicts, those are kinda useless. i've used them in emergencies

>>183134290
>army modules
I keep forgetting these exist even though they force you to research them every game. Maybe if they could let you autoequip them to armies I'd remember to use them, but planets get wiped easily just by massing armies anyway so I've never needed them.

>>183133675
>Hey what games do you play?
>I play 4X games...
>So what are you like a pervert or something? XXXX

>>183134514
Not him, but I've never used army modules to any effect ever when building another army is just cheaper and less micro-managment and while mega structures are really cool and I'd like to see more of them by the time you've built one fully you've already won the game or have more then enough resources/time to end the game with a fleet.

>>183134774
4X is for other losers if a normie ask you what games you play just say "strategy"

>>183134882
i really like modules, they make armies more efficient and therefore less upkeep. also a moduel army is faster to build than a larger army. also makes defenders stronger.
youre right about most of the mega structures tho. they suck except for habitats, those are good

>civ vi
>scout area
>no barb camp
>5 turns later
>barb camp in that area
>5 turns later
>move my starting units back to that area
>2 horsemen and 2 scouts have already spawned

what the actual fuck

>>183136081
and now it's 3 horsemen

will it be 112415419874567129356412 motherfucking horsemen next turn?

>>183135564
>also a moduel army is faster to build than a larger army. also makes defenders stronger.
Technically true, but largely irrelevant, because the actual strength of armies is irrelevant (a sick kitten can take a planet when it's been bombarded to 0), time to build armies doesn't matter (because Stellaris is a boring game of waiting of permanently waiting for truce timers to end so time is a resource you have in abundance), and the most important one: the UI is atrocious to the point that moduling lots of armies is practically impossible, and the very slight gain that modules provide is nowhere near worth the clickspam shittery you have to employ to equip them.

Is there new Stellaris content coming?

>>183136304
1.8 includes robot traits for free, and robot FEs as paid DLC.
However it's not coming out any time soon.

>>183136304
Yes.

>>183136261
true.