/svg/ - Shadowverse General

>>182747094
discord

>>182746929
>Is this more retard friendly
>need 2 cards to do one thing
Yeah no. You're going to brick horribly.

>>182747129
What is the most budget retard friendly yet good deck?

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>>182747141
u mad?

>>182747173
Spawnless neutral blood I guess. You only need 3 Alice.

>>182747185
FUCK YOU RETARDED WHALE I DON'T EVEN HAVE A SINGLE ANIMATED EACHTAR

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my dad works at cygames and you guys are gonna LOVE the new changes

Is Calamitous Curse worth using?

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I miss /svg/, the meta is just too terrible to play right now.

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>>182747094
I want an /svg/poster to wear a blonde wig while I spit in his mouth and tell him Forestcraft sucks!

>>182747213
Anything blood isn't safe same with neutral packages
Best option for someone who doesn't already have them is waiting the nerfs

>>182747457
Rose queen leader pls

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>>182747457
fucking ugly hag
i want aerin

>>182747173
The neutral package on any craft of your choice really. Blood is the most budget one, followed by rune. Yes, the T0 of this expansion costs almost nothing. But there's no way the nerfs won't chop it down.

>go 2nd
>lose

>>182748410

>have no turn 2 play
>lose

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140 IQ game

>>182748928
just conflagration bro

>>182748928
Get fucked ramp cancer.

>>182748928
>2 wyrm gods
your deck is retarded, you went first and this STILL happened to you, what are you doing

>>182749058
>he hates a meme variant of storm ramp more than neutral cancer
kill yourself retard

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>>182748928
>builds a greedy deck with a lot of high cost cards
>loses to low cost aggro
:thinking:

>>182749220
AGGROverse
You are literally not allowed to play control at this game for good winrate. Fuck this shit.

>>182749296
Good, you controlniggers need to go fuck yourselves. Especially if you're so greedy that you can't readjust your deck to fight the current meta.

>>182749405
kys ungabunga

>>182749439
kys by playing your own lousy control decks lmfao

>>182749524
Man you must be genius to vomit goblins on board.

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>>182749640
Man you must be a genius to play T2 Oracle into T3 Rahab

>>182749640
don't reply to retards

>>182749707
that does literally nothing

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Rats is a fun card, transform is a very strong ability.

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>>182747173
arguably CaraBurn Aggro
Replace Carabosse with imp lancers if you don't have her

>>182750412
>Replace Carabosse with imp lancers if you don't have her
or Cat I guess

>>182750825
>Cat in a pure blood deck
Neutral Alice-less cat could also work

>bloodnigger used Emerelda on Officer Timmy
READ NIGGA READ

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If anyone wants to watch Wallet Rune feat. Ginger.
https://www.openrec.tv/live/Ru5GwaqBSSv

>>182750937
>drawing 2 cards in an aggro deck is bad

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>>182751083
>Illusionist into Taboo
This meme is so spicy

Someone please concede 63182

>>182751530
All I'm really saying is that you could build towards neutral better if you go for the cat route. It's arguably less efficient to mix it up, but I agree that it could also work.

when will they announce which leaders won?

>>182752018
Thanks Ginger!

>>182752043
Yes I agree too, I was just memeing :)

>Phantom Cat
>Phantom Cat
>Grimnir
>Grimnir
>Grimnir

Dealing damage with followers with 2017. All about how many cancerous cards can deal direct damage to the leader.

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>15 turns
Fucking hell, still better than some retarded spawn bullshit
Shadow still hard to play

>>182752349
I said it in ToG multiple times and I want to say it again. Grimnir needs a nerf. Remove his enhance just like lightning blast.

>>182752683
>still whining about a balanced card
Just stop. I get that you're mad because dragon could use it on turn 6 last expansion. He's pretty balanced for a 10pp card.

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well outskilled i guess

>>182752683
Remove damage to face.

>>182752683

Either make the enhanced just hit face, or just hit followers. It should not do both

>>182752683
>t10 in 2017
He's nothing more than a 2/3 with ward in this meta.

>>182751083
This looks fun as fuck, do you have his decklist? Pretty sure I have everything for it.

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Why do the nips get a better looking win/lose screen?
And is there a way to mod that in like isabelle's tits?

>>182751083
Nerf Yurias.

>>182753268
i actually finish games with grimnir more than often though. If you go first you have the grimnir advantage by default. You can't pull 123alice every single game.

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>>182753345
This is the list he was running yesterday, not sure if he made any changes.

So what was with the leader poll results last thread.
Is there a source?

>>182747838
>aerin
>not tia
shit taste just like the voting nips

>>182753615
I don't think they have released any official results. Closest thing is probably the gamewith poll the nips were voting on.

>>182753608
>costs less than 40k vials
not wallet enough

SORE DE WA KONKAI SHADOBASU

YATE KIMASU

>>182753809
I want to fuck satancat.

>>182753787
There was another version with Israfil, Bahamut and Falise but he only played it a couple games with it.

>>182753608
Nice brick house.

>>182753809
>he streamed clash royale instead of sv

shadowverse is really dead huh

>>182754156
Can't really play memes anymore.
I blame Alice and her goblins.

>>182753809
>>182754156
He's streaing sv now though?
>tfw he almost got raped by face dragon but she didn't draw any storm/burn to finish him off

>>182754263
I can't imagine alice not getting nerfed. She just has too much synergy in neutral based decks. There's no way to fix neutrals except to nerf alice.

>people complain about BKB but not halo golem

>>182754430
>requires dirt

>>182754486
>implying you can ever run out of sigils

>>182754394
You aren't very imaginative then. :^)

>>182754284
ざわ‥. ざわ‥.

>>182754430
That one point of health actually makes a huge difference.

>>182754568
>implying you going to draw any in the first place
You definitely haven't even tried playing the deck yourself.

Haunted house is hidden gold card.
1pp can summon 3 storm 1-1.

>>182751083
>watch it a bit
>just endless losing to neutral blood
Why do cards that cost 6+ pp even exist anymore

>>182754681
>dirt bricks every game!
I literally don't know how you people manage to fuck up. My dirt deck almost never bricks, but then again I go full burn and ignore retarded control tools that makes no sense in this meta like muh taboos

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So yeah, it seems like we are going to have censorship for the yet-to-be-available sleeve. Nips get left while everyone else gets right.

>>182755393
Just play the game in nip bro. It's not that hard to figure out.

>>182755209
>don't draw any sigils on first turns and fuck up you entire curve
>don't draw any sigils at all
>only draw spells like Brick's death and PR/D.Strike
>only draw activators but no sigils
>don't draw enough sigils before illusionist cunt eats them all
It's easy really. Sometimes I don't want to play illusionist because I have much more important plays to make later with that one single sigils which results in do nothing turns.

>>182755393
No one wants to look at a pair of saggy boobs anyway.

>>182755393

Right is better anyway

>>182755209
Taboo completely shuts down spawn AKA the most played deck in the meta, and he swings the board big times with evo, how can you say he makes no sense?

>>182755393
Something about Isabelle always gives me the idea she's really bushy down there. The volume on her clothes doesn't feel right.

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>>182755629
Nice I found a gay anon, I have some questions for you.

How you decide who is the guy and the girl in the relantionships?

How you deal with you and your partner being horny 24/7 since both are men after all?

Do you even use condoms?

Do you let guys cum inside you?

>>182755842

Your fetishes are not appropriate for a children's card game

>>182755913
You sound like tha gay one tho.

>>182755814
He makes sense on paper. Chances are that by turn 6 you are either dead, don't have a sigil on board, they have a full board or Master levi is a better turn 6 play in general.

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>>182753615
I think it will be released at the end of the month

>>182756263
>mid-july

>>182755994
Having another turn 6 play doesn't negate another one's usefulness.

It's like saying Storm Haven should only run Garuda or Dark Jeanne

>>182756315
Then you're moving into brick city territory. You need to give up on Mutagenic bolts or levies then and then you're moving away from burn dirt entirely.

>>182755994
That only happens if you are playing magic illusionist. Simply remove that fucking leech if you plan on using taboo and suddenly he is incredibly good.

>>182753615
There wasn't an official poll, it was just some 2nd rate fansite doing it. Spoilers: The winners will be whatever Cygames intended, they vote was just a placebo

92832
Need a win
Thanks

What was the worst card of the set?
What was the best card of the set?

>satancat doesn't know how to ctrl alt delete when pubg hangs
>he's restarting his pc instead
Why are nips so baka?

>>182756621
Nice sleeves vampy chan

>>182756430
The one with Taboos runs 3 Oz and runs Witchbolt instead of Mage of Nightfall in order to turn into a more midrange thing with a better late game (so you don't get lamed out by Dragons getting out of lethal range) in exchange of the quick lethal of Burn Rune.

They both have their pros and cons, it's a matter of preference.

>>182756723
>ctrl alt delete
>not just ctrl shift Esc

>>182756881
Oh yea that's what I mean. I'm a baka too.

>>182755592
>don't draw any sigils on first turns and fuck up you entire curve
I have at least 17 sigil makers. It only happened once
>only draw spells like Brick's death and PR/D.Strike
How many spells are you people playing? Even then you can at least hold the fort a little. But yeah, if they get perfect curve you fucked
>only draw activators but no sigils
Just drop them down. Who cares if the illusionist or the golem die?
>illusionist eating all sigils
>that means that idiots are trading with them
Good for me.
>>182755814
Taboo doesn't do shit against spawn and he costs too much. Instead of taboo you could have a mutagenic, for the same cost it does the same while being useful in other cases.

>>182756723
kys e-celeb faggot

>>182756828
That's not burn then mate.
I also think that running three Oz is way overkill but whatever.

How can anyone honestly defend healing.

>>182756430
I'm running 3 demonic strike, 3 piercing rune, 2 taboos, 2 mutagenic bolts, 3 levis, 3Ozs, 3 dods and 3 golems and ALL my losses are because I kept drawing my low pp shitters in late game. Can't remember the last time I "bricked". I have no clue on how people can fish for lethal with less than this.
>Just put 3 mutagenics bro
Mutagenic bolt is strong but it literally backfires, it's not a panic button like themis, I don't get why they put 3 of them.

>>182757247
>complaining about healing of all things

>>182757247
xD

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>>182757304
These are my draws a lot of the times.
I had to take out Demonic brick but that only resulted in me not having enough burn.
I can't play this deck with my shit luck.
I constantly draw 20+ cards without a single Oz or Levi too and I run 3 each.

>>182757304
That's way too late. How do you manage to survive against Alice and pals?

>>182757521
I don't know if you'll believe me but I use two creation. It works a lot of times when I get bad hands.
Dunno why people don't run it. I thibk that it's as good as 2 damage to followers

>>182757341
just because worse stuff exists doesn't mean other stuff isn't aids.

>>182757718
yeah you should complain about albert too then :^)

>>182757715
Do you run Mage of Nightfall too?

>>182757767
Albert isn't aids anymore retard. Turn 9 doesn't happen unless you spam heals.

>>182757060
>Taboo doesn't do shit against spawn and he costs too much. Instead of taboo you could have a mutagenic, for the same cost it does the same while being useful in other cases.
What the fuck are you even saying.
>It costs too much!
>But this card that costs the same doesn't :^)
>It doesn't do shit against spawn!
>Oh but mutagenic pretty much does the same thing, except leaving bodies behind that deal damage
Stop fucking comparing mutagenic with professor, they work in completely different ways, shine in completely different situation and give you completely different advantage. And most importantly, you can put them in your deck TOGHETER, what is this thing that if you put taboo you MUST remove mutagenic? What's the logic behind that?

>>182757935
I do.
She's not exactly amazing but she's solid and from time to time the stealth is useful. In dirt mirrors for example they can't DoD at all. A 3/2 is not that bad in curve if no sigilis are down. And 4 damage are 4 damage.

@182758132
(You)

>>182758181
What about kaleido or exorcism, how do you even deal with Tove without them?

>>182758132
The logic is that I ain't throwing out levi. He's an Auto x3.
If you run muta then you should run at least 2 for consistency. That puts you at 5 six drops. With taboos that's way more fucking high drops which may work if you go full control but it's too much otherwise.
Between muta and profesor, nuta doest need sigils, can be reduced with oz, deals with byb and spawn without damaging me and also adds face damage
Taboo is a control guy. He clears targets and needs sigils. I don't find him useful in my list.

>>182757524
I always focus on clearing up board, since I can get late game and don't have to worry about spawn since I literally counter him. Golem and ol levi are great for that. The neutral menace loses gas and completely stops from turn 6 onwards, where my shit starts getting real dangerous and the burn is real.
Also I run apprentice alchemist. Everyone and their mothers call her shit simply because they never tried her.

>>182758681
So you're running a more control dirt rune and that's fine.

>>182756710
Alice
Witch's Cauldron

LEADER RESULTS
W H E N
H
E
N

>>182758314
Now I know you just have no clue on what you are talking about, thanks pal, I love being right.

>>182758823
Are you dissing on witch's cauldron?

>>182758378
It varies. Sometimes I hold till levi. Sometimes I just go face. The golems can buy me some tme usually.
It's not like I can win agaibst a perfect curve blood though. No one can.

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>>182758951
No, I'm saying Alice ruined the game and Cauldron is my favorite card from WLD.

>>182759113
You're ok then.

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Just need a quick concede for the quest.

20759

Has anyone managed to make Nep work in this meta?

Need a concede for shekels
33858

>>182759272
>Turn 8
lol

>>182759429
TY vampy chan!

>play against sword
>turn 4 slacker
>turn 5 CoCK
>turn 6 CoCK
>turn 7 CoCk
FUCK this game.

>>182759237
A bit late to reply, but thanks smugfu!

>>182759272
Yes.
It works ok against blood and Elena haven.
Rune and Forest rapes you tough.
B&b fucks over Khawy so hard its not even funny.

>>182760204
out fucking skilled

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Tenko is love

This thread is so dead.

>>182760791
MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM

>>182760791
This is your new tier 0 if neutrals and blood get nerfed.

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>evolved Neet to keep herself from dying to totally predicted young levi's board clear
>ended up being the one to deal lethal
Reminder that Neet is neat.

>>182762128
lol

>>182762128
>having a board in removalverse
This is not DE anymore.

>>182760791
>No Tenko sleeves.
Why would you pick an useless crab or a fairy slut that loses her gimmick in 1 attack Cygames?

>>182760204
>>182762134
I would stuff my CoCK in that NEET if you know what I mean.

>>182760204
>complaining about a 4PP do nothing
Beginner rank?

>>182762128
t. A rank

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>Drop from 6k master points to 5k master points and start hating myself and vow to never care about laddering in card games again.
>Decide to give it another chance and earn 1000 points in less than an hour with a 9 game win streak
I hate this rollercoaster of emotions. I just want that grandmaster flair.

>>182763970
Just wait until nerfs and see if they nerf neutral in any significant way.
Shit is way to luck dependant right now that its just horrible.

>>182762776
It's not a turn 4 do nothing if they have a board full of goblins going 1st, retard.

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>he still plays shadowverse

>>182762259
>complain about not having board
>then complain about getting swarmed by Alice buffed neutrals
So which one is it?

Reminder that the win rate for neutral blood is not really as high as people think anymore because the entire ladder basically just consists of neutral blood mirrors so it's converging towards 50% slowly.

>>182764318
>if everyone plays the same deck the winrate is going to be a perfect 50%
You should go work for Cygames.

>>182764313
>having a board after turn 6
That's what he meant

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this is the most disgusting take two draft i've ever had. every game was ridiculously easy. surprisingly, the mvp's were Rapunzel and matriarch. i did have a cheeky win with an evo'd spawn against a khawy on board by pinging face with an angel of the word. that luna must have been pissed.

>>182764318
How can neutral blood lose against neutral blood of its neutral blood? Does the win rate go up? Go down?

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I want Oz to turn me into a snowman and melt me with Crimson Sorcery

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>go second against blood
>the opponent didn't redraw
>still win without taking damage
THERE IS HOPE

>>182764715
Where did her magic wand go?

>>182764579
Good thing that shit can come out as soon as turn 5 then.

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>play 15 games in ranked
>only fought Blood four times
Where did they all go?

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What a healthy meta.

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I just want to fucking meme!
Anger and Sadness overload at maximum.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0PzFUoQH9U

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I want my Daria leader NOW

>>182765240
fuckin one deck meta.
only people that like it are xd memers that don't care about winrate, but they'll literally (literally) like any expansion so they don't fucking count.

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M U H
U
H

>>182765240
>DE
4 viable top decks decks: Elana Seraph, Tempo elf, Midrange Sword, ptp elf
>RoB
3 decks: Roach, Dorothy, Albert
>ToG
2 decks: Shadow and Dragon
>WD
1 deck: neutral blood
>next expansion
0 decks, game is dead.

>>182747838
>liking flat boards.

>>182765240
B-but spawn and BKB are bad

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>>182765503
If you're going to be a degenerate, be a degenerate with tastes.

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>>182765240
>blood at top with haven and rune just behind
Sounds fitting.

>>182765503
that cat looks stupid

>>182764687
There would be 1 win and 1 loss so the overall win rate for those 2 players is 50% so the more mirrors the more the win rare tends towards 50%

Aren't the results for the leader poll supposed to come out today?

>>182764687
>>182766384
It just widens the gap between going first and second

>>182765619
Albert was only viable after RoB nerfs.
2 months: 2 decks. 1 month: 3 decks. I don't think that counts

>>182766530
For sure, and it can provide an illusion that the meta is healthier than it is if all you look at is the win rate of the highest tier deck. Shadow had a higher win rate than neutral blood has now but that's only because there weren't as many mirrors due to dragon also being pretty decent, and few would agree that the last expansion's meta was worse than it currently is now.

>suddenly ptp out of neutral forest
Okay, that sure caught me out off guard.

>>182765168
Already in grandmasters playing meme decks.

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I want to get off Shadowcurve's wild ride

>>182765240
>self reported data

>>182767179
>actually got fanart
Disgusting.

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>9 games
>went 2nd eight times
help me family

>>182760791
Get fucked Elena tumor.

>>182767179
I always feel so outskilled when nblood plays tove on turn 2 going first and I have no 3 dmg removal.

>>182765619
DE had plenty of viable decks.

Elana seraph, pure seraph, tempo forest, ptp forest, aggro forest, midrange sword, banner sword, csword, dshift, face dragon, aggro shadow, aggro blood.

Then we had more or less viable decks that didn't see much play like cblood, ramp dragon, cshadow, satan dirt rune or control satan haven.

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>>182767179
Sad state of the meta aside, that's a cute picture.

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>>182767545
I hope I was joking, but consider having these in your deck. It's usually a safe keep when going second.

>>182767314
>200k samples is not enough
Woah.

>>182767314
>play a couple of games of ranked

>>182767747
Just play fucking 3 damage removal.

>>182767314
>le cyjews shill is at it again

>>182767747
I was actually thinking of putting them in since they also work great with cyclone blade, but then again, I'll have to remove some of the 2 drops, and I really love maids and hedgehogs.

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Why does it get Rush?

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>>182767941
You are supposed to play those along with the duck, boke. At least until they do something about that stupid ant eater.

>>182767314
It was debatable to who was more cancerous when there were two decks dominating, but now there is literally only one deck in ranked and EVERYONE sees that.

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>nerf blood and neutral engine
>we go back to this and midshadow

Oh boy I can't wait for the nerfs!

>>182768035
Because they live on cheese.

>>182768030
Maid is a low tempo play these days. I go with Lyrial, Veteran Lancer and Sanic for 2PP.

>>182768035
Why does it exist?

>>182765168
They introduced emergency brick hand code to blood so people are climbing with other stuff. Basically reduced the likelihood of drawing X card on tempo significantly to create the illusion of diversity by making people feel like blood is not as strong and try other shit.

It's quite the despicable business practice. I hope someone sues cygames over it.

>>182768226
Because it makes blood better than all other crafts.

>>182768151
But if dragon becomes more popular so will kys blood and nepu nepu since they pretty much rape dragon.

>>182768151
>Ramp does well against a meme CBlood deck that does nothing for 5 turns and lets them Ramp
Woah.

>>182768151
Buff Queen Vampire to give every bat +1 and rush.

>>182765168
Everyone that cared already reached GM.

Now only memesters and autists remain in ranked.

>>182768316
>turn 7 Goddess
>turn 8 Nep
>turn 9 18/22 Genesis dragon to face
Nice "counter", if you even get to live to turn 8.

>>182768151
>ramp does well against control decks

no shit

>>182768368
and let her have normal stats

How can you keep playing this shitty game outside of dailies? What kind of broken human being would subject itself to this?

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>>182768476
>18/22 Genesis Dragon to face
You mean 18 heal to Luna's face.
Also
>thinks Goddess is anything but a meme
Stop talking about a deck you've never played.

>>182768556
Who says anyone plays it outside of dailies?

>>182768368
>Queen Vampire brings two bats and give it ward
>Eachtar bring at least 4 zombies, give it +2/+0 and rush

The people behind this game have legit autism.

>>182768556
I play meme decks on unranked.

>>182768642
It's a meme now because you die before getting her off for now.
Remember when Poly roar was just a "meme", just a turn 9 do nothing?

>>182768769
I used to do that too.

But then I got tired of conceding to 123alice.

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>lost 2000 MP in a single day
>tilted off the face of the earth
>back to 4700
>feel like shit, considering uninstalling
I should have climbed the first week before the meta was 100% figured out. This game is pure suffering right now.

>>182768556
I play meme decks in ranked since I'm not worrying about score until the nerfs hit and am low enough Master. Best part is beating tryhard people who have no idea what is going to hit them.

>>182768807
Poly Roar only worked because it was a single card that did everything by itself, and you could play it on Saha Ramp, the build that was defensive enough to have the tempo or health to play a 9pp do nothing. Goddess not only needs to be combo'd with a Storm follower, but you also can only play her on Storm Ramp.

>win 4 ranked games quest
>go second 3 times in a row in a forest mirror
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>182769168
>forest mirror
Where the fuck did you find 3 forest players?

>>182769168
>complaining about avoid blood for 3 games

>>182769265
>>182769220
My forest deck is just B&B memes that autoloses to forest bolt control.

>>182768968
Yeah please uninstall and fuck off.

>>182769451
You're right. I'm subhuman garbage anyway. I couldn't make it to GM even if I switched to blood.

>>182768151
>do nothing for 5 turns against ramping dragon
>have zero hard removal in your "control" deck
Kill yourself bloodnigger

Finally a Grand Master, enough of this bs coin flip simulator.
what meme should i play now?

>>182769856
Duckmill

>>182769856
Forest Anything.

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>Luminious Mage on board
>Elana plays Odette
>get an Odile
>Haven chooses to target Luminious Mage over Odile
>Exact lethal with Albert + Odile
Haven playing the new kys Elana deck I see.

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>>182769856
The spiciest meme.
Does shit against neutral blood tough.

>>182768151
Aren't you tired of making wrong predictions yet?

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Ramp up to that motherfucking concede button.

>>182768151
They aren't nerfing neutrals, they are nerfing class specific neutral support.
Neutral is balanced because everyone can use it :^)

>>182770509
Dragon needs a Salamandier Breath that deals 4 then 3 damage

>>182770702
just JO crystal bro

Need a concede please

93748

>>182771251

thanks vampy-chan !

>>182770509

Is hector that good in neut blood ? I always find it shittier than sabreur most of time.

>neet into phantom howl is hilariously op
>nobody acknowledges this because there's so much more bullshit in this game
Thank you

>>182771539
It cucks your opponent's spawn.

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51706
Hosting reverse take two if anyone wants to play a couple.

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>>182771798

Not really since they can ram alucard or use emeralda effect.

>>182771723
>die next turn because you have no board
Just 123Alice, bro.

>>182771723
It's basically the same damage as cerbhowl but requires a t4 do nothing in a meta where you have to keep board presence up or you get immediately overrun by goblins and alice

>>182772104
On turn 10 it can do 14 damage unevolved and 16 evolved
Literally just play neet into phantom howl with coco and mimi

>>182771804
What are the goblin-hunter siblings' lore? Are Lucius and Teena the two normal siblings who hunt goblins and Feena is the rebellious one that does whatever she wants or something?

>>182771909

Dont worry man, there are plenty of decks easy to play for you.

>>182773106
Lucius and Teena are siblings, I think their father is a legendary swordsman? Feena as far as I know isn't connected to them by blood but she seems to be friends with Teena and Gobu.

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Summarize WD as an expansion(not the meta but as a whole) in 10 words or less.

>>182771723
>>182772494
>just play a turn 4 do nothing
>just play a super weak turn 5 follower
I guess if your opponent does literally nothing for 2 turns in a row and plays zero wards.

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>>182773421
Goblin tove goblin leader alice concede

>>182773328
Don't worry man, even meme decks win once every 20 games, I'm sure your "combo" will too.

>>182773421
I hate neutral craft kill kimura for destroying class indendity

>>182773518

>I dont know how to play without a 1-2-3-4 Curve deck therefore it's shit.

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>cygames was fine with this shit

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>>182773518

Didn't know memedecks could reach GM with consistent wins and winstreaks.

There are plenty of netdecks easy to play on curve for you m8

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>>182773845
You literally cannot play without a proper 2-3-4 curve or you die because this meta is hot garbage

There are safer and less passive ways of dealing lethal bursts of face damage

>>182774195 Meant to quote him>>182773754

>>182774119
>1/8
>8
I didn't even know that number can go that high :^)

>>182774195
Post your epic wins on your way to GM then :^)

>>182773845
>>182774195
How retarded do you have to be to suggest that weak turns 4 and 5 means that you're playing some curve deck? Do you dumb shadowniggers think control decks just sit around twiddling their thumbs on turn 4 and 5?

What happens if you opponent plays a single ward or amasses a giant buffed board because you played a literal turn 4 do nothing? Is this the power of shadownigger intellect?

Question:
How were they ever moronic enough to print Spawn of the Abyss?

Next Question:
How were they ever moronic enough to print Spawn of the Abyss when Baphomet exists?

Additional Question:
How were they ever moronic enough to print Spawn of the Abyss and Bandersnatch at the same time in addition to the above?

This feels almost as moronic as the printing of Skullclamp in MtG.

The thing about this general is that, there is no more story to tell. All games end by turn 7 and all of them start out with the same curves. Same followers in every deck. Remember they say they don't want this game to be too long or too short? They made sure of it. Eachtar Grimnir lightning blast Aegis. Those are from ToG. In WD we've got the GOD curve with Alice and neutral. All the blood games are the same. When you see that a couple of times, they become boring. And if you see them all the time in ladder, you would rather do something else than playing shadowverse. No stories, no enthusiasm, which is why /svg/ is so slow.

Remember back when we have good matches? Back in DE and standard, and also RoB. Every matches were interesting, all classes had their fair share of playrate, and all of them had decent winrate. Tier2 decks were viable to climb the ladder, while tier 3 decks had their shots too. Nothing like right now where it is impossible to win against t1 blood or neutral deck with a t2 deck. Forest was strong back then, but not everyone can play it, at least perfectly. You have to actually think about your turn instead of dropping stuff on curve. I believe a healthy meta is a meta where a tier 1 deck is a deck that requires skill to play, like we had during Standard, DE and RoB.

Cygames didn't like skill decks, because shadowverse is a mobile game and they don't want players fry their brains over a match, which is why the shafted forestcraft, for 3 expansions in a row. They are making a mistake. Look at how players are turning away even with those free packs. Now if the game wants to have the traffic it has before, cygames should print viable forestcraft cards to make the class tier1 again. If the class is tier 1, sword will soon follow as the counter class and with a skill deck on top that not everyone and their retarded dogs can pilot, tier2 and 3 decks will have a chance, and then we will have stories about them to tell. And /svg/ will move fast again.

I..is it safe to come back to playing with other people in ranked than playing solo missions and hoarding gold??

>>182774650
Don't talk about a deck that you have obviously never played.

>>182774802
>skullclamp was in a precon

>Cinderella
>lego
>4/4 cost 3
>go back to the hand when a swordcraft follower comes to play

>Tove
>bronze
>3/3 cost 2
>rush
>can't attack unless a neutral card comes to play

Why isn't this swapped?

Tove should be a lego and cinderella should be a bronze to be honest.

>>182774802
>How were they ever moronic enough to print Spawn of the Abyss?
The game is designed to be played by Salarymen on their way to work. A (supposedly) turn 8 win condition is nothing really new.

>How were they ever moronic enough to print Spawn of the Abyss when Baphomet exists?
Literal incompetence and poor testing.

>How were they ever moronic enough to print Spawn of the Abyss and Bandersnatch at the same time in addition to the above?
Bandersnatch was 100% intended to be a fallguy for Spawn when they eventually roll out "nerfs." Obviously no one plays it over Baphomet, so that failed miserably as well.

>>182774820
>all classes had their fair share of playrate
No stop with this delusion

>>182773518
You don't have to play neet on turn 4 you idiot. You play it on turn 10. Neet is only 4 mana howl is only 4 mana and coco and mimi are only 2 mana. 4+4+2=????

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>>182775261
>you play it on turn 10
>turn 10

>>182775261
>turn 10

>>182775118
>tfw cinderella was made for cannon memes but playing a turn 5 do nothing amulet is too costly in this meta

>>182775118
Are you out of your mind? Do you want this game to be a more p2w game that it is now? Fucking retard.

Also the real reason is that they know Tove is going to be broken. They just want blood to be on top to please the pedos after Luna lost her edge for a bit. They were anticipated to nerf Tove. Making a confirm nerf target as a bronze will give players the least amount of vials when the bat hits.

>>182775423
You're giving Cygames too much credit.

She was definitely created for the Neutral Engine, and Cannon Memes was only a fun idea that players who didn't expect the Neutral Engine to be so potent had.

>>182775638
>She was definitely created for the Neutral Engine
How do you even come to this conclusion though? She has 0 neutral synergy. How can she be made for the neutral engine if she has no neutral synergy?

>>182775423
a turn 5 do nothing amulet has been too slow going back to RoB. even now, three cost amulets are unplayable. amazing how a third subtype of cards (amulets) are completely garbage in this game. except for haven of course.

>>182775848
They're garbage for haven too unless they're extremely cheap like Plea/beastcall, or do something immediately when you play them (tribunal/teatime)

Everything else is hot garbage

>>182775797
She's made for Neutralcraft the same way Tove is: She has over-the-curve stats, but gets penalized if you play other sword cards. Play her in Neutral and she's a safe, overstatted follower with no drawbacks.

>>182775797
>she has zero neutral synergy
>having her downside become completely negated when playing neutral followers is not synergistic
That's as retarded as saying Dark Alice wasn't made for neutrals because she has no text that explicitly refers to them.

>>182774820
>try to make a deck with funny combos worthy of stories being told.
>to hard to survive past t5 to even pull of said combo.
Fuck this meta.

>>182775797
Her not getting bounced is the synergy

>>182773724

sacred plea black scripture grimnir that goblin slayer dude's sister

>>182776062
>>182776073
>downside
But being able to bounce her is what makes her good though, you can use her, a 3pp, to trade with other 3/# 3pps then bounce her and play her again for restored stats. It also fixes the problem with swords lack of good card draw since you can reuse her.

>>182776062
Tove a bronze card is better than Cinderalla a legendary card though. Tove is overstatted and he has rush which is why he is bonkers in neutral decks.

>>182775994
Even Beastcall is risky in this meta. If the opponent plays a turn 1 Goblin or you get outskilled and go second, not dropping Snow or Bible Black on turn 2 could spell doom for you right there.

The game is so ridiculous right now, that sometimes at turn 3 it's already over. I've had Beastcalls sit in my hand all duel because unless I was dropping followers or removing them, I was being threatened with a lethal board next turn.

>>182774802
>>182775028
Umezawa's Jitte was too, as if they hadn't learned from Skullclamp.

>>182774802
>>182775217
As far as turn 8 wincons go, this is a bit extreme. Compare to say, the Forest Anamoly which has to remain in play with no protection, and cannot be tutored before like 9 mana, yet alone cheated into play directly for 7 mana... AND still chunks 1/3 of your health if it dies.

So really, comparing it to other single-card wincons of a similar mana cost... Spawn is one of the most ridiculous cards I've ever seen.

>>182776075
>The top meta deck is too simple that even a 5-year-old can pilot it
>And the matches end too quickly

Which is why we need forestcraft to be on top once again so that retards cannot just netdeck it and pilot it through GM.

>>182776243
>repaying 3pp for a follower that does nothing immediately when played is an "upside"
Yeah dude totally. When my opponent kaleidoscopes my 2-drop back to my hand I go "Jokes on you, I get to play that card again!"

>>182776243
>doesn't have rush
>doesn't have storm
>doesn't have a fanfare
>can't heal
>can't destroy more than one follower a turn

All she has are big stats when played on curve. Bouncing her or even just dropping her late game doesn't do shit.

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>play against forest
>spam ACCEPT YOUR FATE
>drop tove
>roach fucker concedes

>>182776258
Yeah, Tove is obviously a better Cinderella, and I don't think anyone will deny that. You simply have Cygames's incompetence to thank for him. At the very least he can be nerfed since he's a bronze.

>>182776462
>Bricked and forced to play a 2 drop
>Get's Kaleido'd
>Get to do something instead of skipping my turn
Sometimes it's exactly what I say

>>182776514
>don't own Spawns
>queue Blood vs Blood (hey, Emeralda is good... right???)
>just play efficiently on-curve against his weak ass turn 5 Baphoshit
>his Spawn can't do shit because his life total is too low
>tried to flood on 6 with Tove, Unica, and Faria evolve
>doesn't matter because I have lethal from hand
Feels good punishing weak ass turns like Baphomet.

>>182776514
>play t0 deck against a class with the lowest winrate
>plays the most braindead craft against the only thinking craft in the entire game
>BM the opponent
I am not surprise by the thinking capacity of blood players.

>>182776462
But those 2 drops don't have overstated stats. Don't mention tove, he's obviously broken.
>>182776483
Well yea since they gave her bounce and overstated stats instead.

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>>182776514
>t2 Tove
>t3 Feria + Merman
>t4 Alice
>Waiting for a Response

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Magisa!!

Buff Yurius

>>182776810
Cinderella is weaker than cards you can play on turns 4/5/6 etc. The only reason you play her is to drop her on turn 3 and threaten to kill your opponents 3 drop for free or do 4 face damage.

Bouncing her back means your opponent doesn't even have to worry about removing her. It's like you have zero concept of board pressure.

>t1 sacred plea
>t2 beastcall aria
>t3 elana
>t4 bunny
this is not any better than neutral start

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>>182777219
>t4 bunny

Teach me your ways, Grandmaster.

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>>182776807
>tfw too intelligent to win

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>>182777158
That one long ass doujin she has is literally godsend. +50 pages of pure fucking sex.

>>182777219
>t1-3 do nothing
>die turn 4
yeah sounds great

>>182777039
>opponent played 1 follower turns 1-3 and didn't remove a single one of your followers

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>>182776807
>its my fault someone played a low winrate deck

>getting tempted to build an elana deck even though I have no elana
Is it worth the 2400 vials? I think I've got everything else I'd need.

>>182777193
Cinderella has to be the most boring legendary in the game. It's just 3pp 4/4. Blood has a silver card with the same statline.
She may not be as bad as other legos, but they could have done something else besides being a beatstick.
Hero is a beatstick too, but at least he has Rush and themis/khawy/Bahamut immunity.

>>182777471
Link

>tfw wanted to start making videos about card games I play but one of them is moving to a new client so it's in alpha/beta stage and shit's buggy as fuck while SV meta is so oppressive it makes it hard to even get footage and the damn game crashes my OBS every time a match is over.

>>182777897
It's worth it in that it's fun to play.

Get ready for frustration when you go 5 games without drawing it though, and have no way to search it though.

>>182777993
The meta is fine if you are playing spawn blood

>>182778124
Yeah, but I wanted to make informative videos on how to play these games and such but it's hard to make tutorials of all aspects of the game right now. Even deck guides seem like they'd be useless since 50% of all previous expansion decks become irrelevant every 3 months.

>>182778024
M8, my most played sword deck is rogues creed. I am quite used to being cucked by amulets.
Fuck sakes cygames make all swordcraft amulets commanders, nearly all of them are memes anyway.

>>182777909
That's because Cygames decided to double the number of legendaries but they can't come up with anything special so they just tag shit like Snow White and Cinderella, that should've been golds at most, as legendaries just to fill that gap and continue to dillute good legendary pulls.

>>182778282
>That's because Cygames decided to double the number of legendaries
Why is that, anyway?

>>182778384
So you have to buy more packs.

>>182778263
Then you'll like it. If built right (and with a little luck), it can do well against everything in the current meta. I just went on an 8 game winstreak in Masters with mine yesterday. Killing Spawn then healing out of lethal is always enjoyable.

>>182778282
>snow white
>gold
Congrats, you just made a 2 drop thats more cancerous then even tove into easy x3 in every haven deck.

>>182778260
You can just give the basics like evos, card effect (bane, enhance, rush, storm etc), different craft gimmicks. You shouldn't bother making a video on what deck to make right now because that is just neutral spawn blood then something gets nerfed at the end of the month so it might change. You shouldn't make a video on the current meta, that isn't great for any game and gets outdated quickly.

>>182777960
Just search for her in the obvious places, there isn't much anyway. Source is tagged as GBF

>>182778527
Are you fucking retarded? People will play the card regardless of how much vials it costs if it is good.

So is Rune a good way of dealing with Bloodcancer and Dragon Ramp (who I lose to often)?

I don't mean Spellboost shenanigans, but specifically the mass transform effects, a deck specifically tailored to give the middle finger to Spawn in particular.

>>182778659
Not everyone has 10k vials to make 3 snow whites
But I think a lot of people have 2400 vials, or 2 trash legendaries for vials

>>182778527
Snow White is already a 3-of in every Haven deck. Having low cost non-deck-defining staples as legendaries like that is just meant to make decks two times more expensive, you jew supporting retard.

>>182778791
Rune has ways to deal with Spawn but neutral engine and shit like Saber are still there.

>>182778540
Hm, I see. I guess I could make a video on the basics of gameplay and maybe a separate video for all keywords then.

>>182778791
Rune can sometimes win against blood but it absolutely cannot win against dragon. One Sybil and bahamut and you're done.

>>182778527
Wow, that might just be the stupidest thing I've ever read in this read. You can tell a lot of you come from gatcha games with that "it's ok if it's OP because it's legendary" mindset.

>>182778791
Because having a card that can deal with a single turn 6 follower doesn't help you during the first 4 turns of neutral onslaught.

>>182778659
>>182778867
>haven and blood are the only 2 crafts that have a 2 drop worth using in this meta that isn't neutral
Feels bad man.

>>182779020
Levi isn't playable anymore?

>>182779017
Spawn

>>182779017
Alice because I use her in every deck.

>>182778921
You should also make a video on how new players can get a lot of card packs, by doing the story, missions, and achievements like the play 20 private matches, or beat the elite 1 and 2 AI for gold. Like helpful tip things to start then maybe make videos later about more up to date stuff.

>>182779017
Did they give out some animated orb things?

>>182778791
Neutral Rune decks can run mutagenic bolt for Spawn and can deal with Dragon because it runs the neutral engine.

Earth rite decks are definitely not great against Dragon unless you manage a super-agressive curve.