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NEW GRAND MASTER RANK
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>>182808337
neph sure is cute
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>>182808337
I want an /svg/poster to wear a blonde wig while I spit in his mouth and tell him Forestcraft sucks!
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>>182808536
That's kinda gay.
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>>182807670
>>182807926
Ignore them. No matter how many times you try to explain how inconsistent and easy to counter Elana is, /svg/ ungashitters will keep crying about it regardless of the fact it also has 42% winrate.
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What do I do guys?
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>>182808645
I just don't get it. When was /svg/ flooded with D rank players? Those are literally the only people who should struggle with Elana. The deck and how to counter it has been figured out for expansion sets.
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>>182808645
Just die healcancer.

Nobody fucking likes playing against a jackass that keeps healing itself over and over again. The same reason why nobody likes playing against dshift crap or ramp dragon. It's the exact same solitaire crap and drop a board the opponent can't deal with. Fuck you and everyone that thinks this sort of crap is even remotely fun. It's literally the shit that kills this game.
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>Remember rowen's campaign updated
>tfw lightning blasting durandal and savaging his board and face
>tfw holocausting boards of hellflames with 3 dmg dragon wings
The dragonclaw pendant truly is too fine for an ordinary person

>>182808791
Zeus
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Daily reminder to go first
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haha kill yourselfs shadowniggers xd haha xd
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>>182808968
No one is defending it. We're saying it ISN'T GOOD. There's a fucking difference.
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>>182808816
Are you same pretentious pedo who called everyone around him "D rank" before WD release?
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>>182809094
I don't get why people still spam that even after ToG.
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>>182808816
Pure Elana has never been good, not even in DE. Elana only beats heavy aggro consistently because the heals make them run out of steam. Every time I see Elana I am happy because it's such an easy win unless they nutdraw insanely hard.
Those retards saying that "Elana will be next tier 0 after the nerfs" can only be A ranks or ungashitters.
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>>182808645
Fuck off. Everyone hates Elana cancer except Elanafags.
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>>182808816
Because nobody is carrying bahamuts anymore other than dragon? Because we have to deal with neutral fucking blood and must sacrifice half our decks with low cost shit for survival? And then comes some constant healing asshole that makes a board that I can't completely remove because I had to remove the cards to deal with it. Nobody cares if it isn't good enough you jackasses end up making causalities of people trying to counter blood with this fucking retardation of deck.
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>>182809307
Shitter ranks have bakamuts and grimnir in every deck that isn't winning on turn 6. It's fucking miserable
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>>182809178
>it's a episode of "you used the same word as someone else"
>this must mean everyone on an anonymous image board with thousands of users is the same person
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>>182809286
>D rank nigger trying hard
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Could I get a concede pls?

54210
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>>182809529
Thanks!
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>>182809529
>Get fortress, killer devil, and vania
O-Okay....
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>>182809426
>circle jerk general
>discord
>writing patterns
>avatars
Yeah
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Just finished my Win 4 Haven Games daily by going 4/5 with Elana. Feels nice to get it over quickly.
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>>182809307
You don't need Bahamut to counter Elana. No deck that aims to counter Blood loses to Elana besides Burn Dirt. Elana has almost no good match ups. It's the same inconsistent shit deck from DE, it just highrolls harder now because of Tenko.
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>>182809307
The worst part is that the healing hag doesn't even have a high winrate because that shit supposedly bricks a lot. But it doesn't matter because it does work at some given time specially against slower decks. They take a shit from 123alice then proceed to be a pain the ass against decks like midsword or earth rite because it had to remove petrification. And then niggers come here "uh lulz wy u kids no like elaners" take a wild fucking guess.
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>>182809859
Yes, now which of those posts is "pedo"?
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>>182809274
Shadow ruined this game. ToG was the great turning point.
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>>182810139
I miss when dragon was firmly the home of the hardcore memer and we'd get all excited about disco or JO tweaks.
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>>182810029
>it's bad I know it
>but it beats my meme decks so it must be cancer!
This is why /svg/ is such a fucking joke in terms of meta discussion.
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>>182810139
After seeing what Cygames did with Dragon and Blood, do you unironically think this has anything to do with Shadow? They just randomly make crafts too powerful. It has nothing to do with Shadowcraft and everything with powercreep.
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>>182810173
>we could just report you
>we
Good luck
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>>182808597
Only if they moan when they swallow it!
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>>182809951
Tenko, the swan slut that heals 2 at the end of the turn, the monk that gives 2 holy waters. If you remove it all there's always Aegis to finish the work. I play csword and even with Roland Elana got fucking painful. Of course they save all the themises for Aegis so they can just go face without having to worry about anything. And you can always drop Naoise on turn 9 in case they have one evolve left.
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Hey /svg/, let's play a game!

I'll terribly draw a card and you guys guess what it is. It'll start easy and get more difficult as we go on.

You get absolutely nothing for winning! good luck~
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Leader poll results......TODAY!
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>>182810509
Entangling Vines
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>>182810339
I don't remember it being this bad back in DE and RoB. The constant spam of "<deckname>nigger" seems to have really reached its apex and taken over the threads entirely in Tempest.
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>>182810527
source?
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>>182810354
Shadow was by far the worst offender, they were left to reign the longest any deck ever had and will.
>>182810173
Please go ahead, shadownigger.
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>>182810339
Just like ramp dragon is garbage this expac but it consistently fucks up dirt rune and sword decks dumbass. Those decks are efficient against other decks. So you're basically taking a shit a from neutral vamp but beating the few idiots that don't feel like playing this crap. Congrats.
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>>182810552
maybe this is too easy...
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Here's the next card
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>>182810605
This is what happens when you let them spam like that. Now they're entitled to their spam response and will continue to pollute threads until you take action.
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>>182810656
>replying to it
Dumb shadownigger.
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>>182810605
Because in DE several decks were played. And no in RoB we did complain about Daria and forest shit a lot.
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>>182810339
>meta discussion.
Yeah. SV is serious competitive game. For real meta discussion I recommend you special competitive forums.
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>>182810856
>And no in RoB we did complain about Daria and forest shit a lot.
Yeah but it was jokes about roach maths and stuff at least. For all the shit roach got, it had a relatively low playrate since it could be executed wrong. Daria got more flak.
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>>182810752
Crimson Sorcery?
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>>182810440
>Tenko, the swan slut that heals 2 at the end of the turn, the monk that gives 2 holy waters
So? Those are not consistency tools, they just allow the Elana player to make bigger numbers IF they draw their amulet and IF they manage to keep a board up for it. It doesn't fucking matter that they have more heals if the deck is still inconsistent as fuck.
>CSword
How about you kill their fucking board? I have 0 issues dealing with Elana as CSword. The only issue is when they tech Aegis, but at that point it has nothing to do with Elana, since pure Aegis would've done the same. In fact, Elana Aegis is just a shittier version of Aegis.
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>>182810981
I'm very positive we had plenty of vicious forest hate and remove elf around. Your memory is flawed.
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>>182811071
Nope, sorry
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Where the fuck are you faggots even seeing Elana being played? The only shit I see in masters more than once every 100 matches is Neutral Xcraft, Aegis, Dirt and the eventual Mid or Control Sword.
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>>182811156
It was bantz, rarely dismissive shitposting of this scale. Also, our OC production has significantly slowed down so all that's left is angry anons yelling at each other.
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>>182811282
Jap time
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>>182810752
Fairy Princess!
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>>182810752
>3 damage to all enemies from hand
>3 damage to all enemies when you play the card
>put one sigil on the enemy side for every foe killed
holy shit young levi will save rune
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>>182810751
Deadmoon Disciple?
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Does anyone have an album of photoshopped cards?
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>>182810752
Spawn
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>>182811423
Rune's okay

Kind of slow unless you run neutralcraft and there's better crafts to do that in.
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>>182811081
>How about you kill their fucking board?

Because you can't do it at all times? Gimme themis for sword and I will. Also sword doesn't have the same draw power as haven. Every haven match I have in masters is a colossal pain in the anus for the most part.
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>>182808337
Reminder that Nep is beautiful
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>>182811434
Hey you got it! I was worried it was too crap to tell
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>>182810713
What's your point? "Decks have good match ups against others"? For real?
You are fucking retarded.
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>Get a skullfane like the week before WD
>WD completely blows count haven out of the water by just giving everyone straight up better cards
It hurts so much....

>>182811595
Summon pegasus, not even that obscure since you use it a lot in early haven
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>>182811595
Summon pegasus?
I like your art style if you did more than just these quick silly sketches
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>>182810631
His ass
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>>182811545
Just old man bro
Just white mountain swordsman bro
Just blitz/jeno bro
Just luckshitter double gaywine and Alexander
Just get fucked because kikes will never give sword decent amulet removal
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>>182810713
So people are not allowed to play shit that they like or want to play because you'll get annoyed if it beats your sekrit anti-Blood deck?
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>>182811673
The fuck this post. Newshits shouldn't be allowed to post.
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>>182811621
No you're retarded. You're using a deck that doesn't even consistently wins against neutral blood just to fuck people that doesn't want to be part of the cancer. And I bet you're climbing like a tortoise with that shit. Just to come here in svg and cry you lost to blood going first 123alice five time in a row.
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>>182811967
Nice projection, bro. You sure showed me.
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>>182811673
this one will be harder :c
>>182811852
I can only make silly sketches
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>>182811941
Fite me faggot. Eido-skullfam count haven is deader than fairy princess

>>182812157
AHHH, IT'S MINTHE! Desert Rider
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>>182811967
>WAAAHHHHH WHY ISN'T HE ONLY PLAYING BLOOD? WHY DO I HAVE TO DEAL WITH BAD MATCH UPS? WAAHH WAAAAHHH
Kill yourself.
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>>182812201
how do people know these cards...
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>>182812157
Minthe.
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>hagfags shitposting again
They're real cancer of /svg/
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>>182812530
Snowfield Warrior
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>>182812530
Snowfield Warrior

Your style's very cute.
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>>182812530
You shouldn't be using basic cards that everyone used when they started
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>>182812654
>ad hominem
>I can't come up with an argument so I will just be a passive aggressive bitch
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Guys, guys, guess what card.
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>>182812818
Snowfield Warrior is from WD.

>>182812898
KMR
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>>182812898
Otohime
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>>182812961
Stop
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What is this shit and how does it work? Is it for every rank now or will it only be from B to A and so on?
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>>182812669
>>182812698
thank you, that's very nice :)
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>>182812961
Delete this
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>>182813125
Malicious ghost.

You should draw some lewds. Or maybe for your next card, draw it without their clothes.
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>>182813059
Every rank. Win x to pass. Lose you justh ave to start the trial again until you pass
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>spent hours grinding only to gain 900 points
>still need another 1000 to get GM
kill me
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>2 threads gone by
>steal no leader poll results
You lied to me.
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>>182813302
Okay, thanks.
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>>182813125
4pp usless in arena
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>>182811423
>>182811515
>>182811389
>>182811071
It was actually Quickblader. He already left the pic by the time you looked at it. :D
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>>182812828
>argument
I don't argue with you, hagfag. There is a lot evidence of hagfags being cancerous falseflaggers.
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>>182813381
They're coming today, I promise.
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I actually envy haven players they are so cool
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>>182813410
>Go to make a ghost meme deck
>See: Countdown (3)
But why?
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>>182813528
t.haven player
how pathetic
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>>182813127
>>182813050
I just liquified 2 otohime for an Alice
one was an animated otohime
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>>182813253
I don't want to! >:(
>>182813401
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>>182813528
They're like SJWs that try to make themselves look victimized in every way possible.
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>>182813875
This is so accurate it's sad
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>>182813862
Noble Fairy
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Do people here actually unironically identify themself with the craft they are playing?
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>>182814068
Maybe those autists with all their wins in one class.
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>>182808337
Have they done an interview with those fucks at Cygames yet? I'd love to see what they were fucking thinking in this expansion.
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>>182814068
Muh loyalty
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>play midsanic
>never draw sanic in mulligan or turn 2
>always go 2nd
>losing streak
Fucking kikegames
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>4 wins in t2
>haha fuck you
I WILL NEVER GET THIS FUCKING FLAIR
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>>182814547
My condolences.
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>>182814065
here's the last one
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>>182814853
Pinion Prince
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>>182814853
Pinion Prince.
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>>182815004
>>182815009
Congratulations to all you smart people who played the game, here's a minthe because (I don't get the joke)
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>>182814138
Can I be a dragonbro then?
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>first free weekend in months
>ready to grind grandmasters today
>got everything ready BUT
>some idiotic normalfag got drunk, had the idea to drive his car anyway and rammed it into the house of my neighboors killing a young couple
>also in the way he took down an electric pole so the whole block was without electricity for the whole day

Why destiny goes out of it's wat to spite me?
Probably my next free weekend will be after the nerfs, fuck this, fuck normalfags
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>>182814853
Pinion prince is my countfu
Don't stop, I'm so close

>>182815113
Minthe has the stats of a goliath. People call her a desert rider to meme her uselessness
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>>182815113
Oooh, I know, it's a desert rider
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>>182814157
One latest interview someone posted about on reddit they were talking about how this expansion was designed around balancing take two because they want to have take two tournaments, and they pushed the power level of going first harder so it was not so favorable in take two. I'm not even joking.
https://www.gamer.ne.jp/news/201707070008/

If they suddenly give a fuck about take two it means you better prepare for overpowered as fuck Rune and Forest tempo cards next expansion
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>>182815140
That's cute, anon.
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>>182815140
lil dragon bro
>>182815173
>electric pole so the whole block was without electricity for the whole day
fucking monster
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>>182815173
Because someone said ECKSPLODU REAJUUU REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>182815113
>I don't get the joke
When Minthe was first revealed some anon called her a Desert Rider because her effect is useless most of the times. She actually has the same stats than Goliath but people call her Desert Rider as a meme now.
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>tfw aggro shadow of all fucking decks decides to rage d/c against aggressive plays
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>>182815173
Could have played on your phone??
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>>182815397
Fuck off, Tove.
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>>182815414
>not rage DCing when the 2nd card pops up
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need concede 29315
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>>182815190
>>182815352
ah thanks for telling me, I guess I missed it :(
I'll come again another time, please play again when I'm back~
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>>182815414
To be fair, that is an incredibly sickening board to anyone who played before wd
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>>182815414
>MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM I WENT FIRST WITH NEUTRALCANCER
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>>182815513
thanks snow white!
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>>182815463
Only 50% battery, no way to charge it back and power just go back till now, 15 hours later, basically spent my whole day doing fucking nothing.
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>>182815414
Shadowniggers are babies. Good job.
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>>182815698
Couldn't you hit up a coffee shop or some fast food place, find a seat with a charger and play your anime cards there lol
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WD was a mistake.
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>>182815968
Aggro bats would've done that.
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*concede noises intensifies*
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>>182815826
In the end I went to do extra hours on my workplace for the whole day, then came back and still shit was fucking dark.

Like I said I spent my day doing nothing (that I would have like to do), was just like a regular work day but extra shitty.
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>>182816037
Not vs haven.
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swordbb/svg/thread
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Post your best Haven decks or Eris gets it.
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>>182816078
Sometimes they have a non-optimal 123 or 234 curve, but it's safer to hang on to it for the sake of the curve.
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>>182816162
Remember when sword was tier1 for a day
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>>182816263
I stole this deck from some website and I don't feel bad about it at all.
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>>182816263
Here's the Storm deck I've used in Masters once.
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>I think that it is incredible to introduce about 100 new cards every three months, but how far is the new set complete after delivery?

>Mr. Miyashita: For example, the fifth expansion will be delivered at the end of June, but at about this time the content of the sixth expansion is almost complete. After the fifth release, we will make final adjustments for the 6th one by watching the game environment data on which decks were supported and which cards are popular.

Rejoice fellow Forest and Dragon players, next expansion you guys are getting the broken cards.
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>>182816751
Not bad. But you were too late. Give me a GM worthy deck or she'll be a goner.
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>>182816857
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>>182816751
>1 (one) whole tribunal
>sisters at all
>valhallan general
>no scriptures

This can't be good pal.
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>>182816818
But Forest is fucking strong right now. Take out Neutral and Spawn and you will see what more can be cancerous.
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post discord link. i need a new place to shitpost.
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>>182815209
>after this shit neutral meta we have the original cancer
What kind of drugs do you even have to be on?
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>>182816421
It was just alicecraft though.
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I am so fucking mad right now
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>>182817248
Do you want the reddit one or the """""/svg/""""" one?
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>>182817540
svg
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>>182817471
out fucking played
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>>182817471
What are the odds?
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>>182815173
The couple who died were your neighbors or passengers in the car? I'd honestly kill any survivors riding in the car if I could.
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Super cute and smelly sweaty lewd armpits!
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>when your tech finally works
Duck vs anteater. Just a normal game in shadowverse.
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>>182817716
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>>182817471
>that one guy calling you trash
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>>182816938
There's a reason why I only used it once.
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>>182817785
>plays hungering horde + goblin
Nothing personnel... Kid
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>>182817639
What am I supposed to be seeing here?
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>>182815968
How?
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>>182818121
Unga bunga
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>>182817716
Stop posting these. These pictures made me develop a degenerate fetish for armpits. I even shaved my armpit and jacked off to it in the mirror.
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>>182818160
Yeah but how? I can't think of a combination that in 4 turns it rapes someone that badly unless that is a pic from the turn 5 before it was turn of the heaven player.
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>>182818235
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>>182818254
<replying to it
Go away, shitposter.
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>>182817716
I want to drink Jeanne's holy water.
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>>182817639
>odds
HAHahHahHa. I didn't know rigged worked as synonym of odd.
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>>182818235
Guess we'll just have to censor them.
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>>182817672
>my neighbors

I rarely talked to any of them except for the first day thought.
But yeah the drunk guy survived an ambulance carried him, to an hospital I guess.
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>>182818254
It helps when the Haven player did nothing but drop 2 amulets turn 1-3 in ungaverse.
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>>182818319
>it
Huh?
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>>182818404
Guys like that never feel bad that their stupidity and irresponsibility took the lives of innocents. I want him to suffer.
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I love my cute fiancé Isabelle!
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>>182818587
He'll end up in jail, with a massive medical bill if that was the US, and might get sued by other family members for good measure. He may not be dead, but his life is over.
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>>182817929
First person's name is Fire, second person is Emblem.
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>>182818764
go home kyle youre dead
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>>182818587
Nor does your dad
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>>182818813
I really hope he ends up in jail and doesn't manage to settle or weasel out of it with some rehab shit.
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>>182818764
kyle's nothing but a deserter and deserves to be hanged
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>>182818764
Fuck off, Kyle. Your wife prefer Rowen's dragon cock.
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>>182818587
In a town my aunt lives in, some tourists tried to pass a car in thick fog. They had a head on collision at 100km/hr with another car, killing its driver, a 20 year old guy.
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>>182816131

Aggrobat was one of the best decks on DE versus Haven.

It still is versus non snow white.
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>>182818235
>TFW rub and smell my shaved pits and imagine they belong to a flustered anime girl
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Post cards you want to see in the next expansion.
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>>182819259
Did the town lynch the tourists? That's honestly the only acceptable reaction. Innocent life must be avenged with Guilty life.
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What's the best neutral blood deck currently? Need something to mindlessly grind to masters
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>>182819517
>Innocent life
Huh? Maybe it's the world doing its thing. Two birds and such.
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>>182819581
https://twitter.com/waffle_sv_/status/884775876914577408
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>>182819683
Minding your own business and something suddenly kills you is one of the worst ways to go.
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>>182819517
>2017
>anyone anywhere ever being innocent

Naive anon
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>>182819801
sounds pretty good to me as long as it's instant
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>>182819734
What the fuck is that? Why Fighter and Maiden?
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>>182819948
Where have you been? Neutral blood's destroying this game's cunny.
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>>182819948
That's the current best build of Neutral Blood.
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>>182819801
>Minding your own business
Well, what if that someone was about to dispose of a young girl's body or murdered I don't know a young girl's cat just the day after?
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>get 2 WD packs per day
>Not a single leggo
Great game. I have only gotten 4 leggos and I'm already 80 packs into this shit expansion.
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>>182820131
Stop making stupid-ass arguments like that. You know what I meant
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>>182820080
>>182820015
I played WD for a little bit and stopped to wait for the meta to settle. Seemed like Abyss blood was going to be at the top but is that really the best build of neutral blood right now?
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>>182820161
I've had pretty bad luck with daily deals and the event packs as well. 4 spawns and 5 woes is all I've stacked.
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>>182820247
Maybe you should play Spawn too.
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>>182820334
Yes
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New leaders when?
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>>182820587
IN 30 MINUTES!
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>>182820587
Check your crate.
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>>182820587
5 minutes
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>>182819346
New mel/a cards never ever
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>>182820725
Im an idiot and should have checked first thanks
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>>182816818
>Dragon players, next expansion you guys are getting the broken cards.
NO I DON'T WANT MY CRAFT TO STOP BEING A MEME FUCK OFF
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Haven is so fun to play being chemo is really good.
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Cygames better get a clue.
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>>182821672
>chemo
exactly why nobody likes you
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>>182821672
Well I guess it's nice to play a braindead curve craft every once in a while
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>>182821743
But everyone loves anti-meta-chemo decks
>>182821782
Sorry bb i'm not playing with sword or florest
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M U H
U
H
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WINTER'S CAPRICE IS AMAZING
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>>182821913
Kill yourself, shadownigger.
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182822006
>he's still spreading his autism
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>>182821913
fuck off
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Corruption is ________
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>>182821889
Yeah even worse you're playing haven, the most collectively auto-pilot craft in the history game's existence. All answers make themselves, all decks consist solely of playing removal and healing until an uninteractable win condition pops up
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>>182821913
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>>182821913
Good taste
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>>182822212
Chemo is the unique craft with true control tools everyone need to be glad.
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>>182822103
Wrong
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lol esports
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>>182821707
>those nicknames
Oh yeah, the clues Cygames will get...
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>>182821707
>1.4k hours
>AA3
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>>182821707
>AA3
fucking shitter
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I would be interested in seeing T2 stats. Is Blood also the most dominant craft there? Not sure about success but I swear 3/5 matches are vs Blood.
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>>182822914
No, because neutral engine can't be used in T2.
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I AM A FLOWER
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>>182822914
Shadowlogs pulls in take two stats but on a monthly basis. Obviously last month Shadow was by far the best.

Shadows still a safe bet right now in take two. Blood is good as well, but only if you get offered the Wonderland cards.
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>>182823024
But they still have bapho, tove, BKB, spawn, sabreur and phantom cat. Going first or second, they have a steady supply of tempo swingers and T2 is all about board control.
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>>182823110
AND I AM A DUBKEK
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>>182823301
>and phantom cat
Are you serious?
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>>182823356
>6pp 5/5 draw 2 cards
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>>182823356
I think he meant Esmeralda.
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Chemo is the best
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>16 days until nerfs
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>>182823537
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>>182823537
Yeah, TotG Urias was based.
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>>182823580
>implying there will be nerfs
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>>182823421
Emeralda too.

>>182823356
Cat is great. It has decent enough stats to be worth the evo since few things will out trade a 7/7, has reach and is a +2
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>>182823110
LIKE A BIRD
I SIIIIIIIIIING
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>>182823580
The other card that's being changed this time, Bandersnatch, is a part of some Bloodcraft decks that include Spawn of the Abyss. Match data from high-ranked users reveals that these Spawn Blood decks have a 49.9% win rate and an 8.0% use rate. This presents no issue in itself, but the deck's win rate is higher in lower ranks: in B rank the win rate is 54.0%, and in C rank the win rate is 56.5%. (The win rate of most other decks doesn't vary greatly by rank.)
Thank you.
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>>182823643
If Cygames tries to bullshit us by not nerfing the neutral cards and spawn. Most of us here will quit this fucking game, Only reason why we are still playing is because of these promised nerfs.
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>>182823356
B rank?
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>>182823970
THE ABSOLUTE APE
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>>182824037
They didn't promise anything, though. They said they would do monthly updates which might mean nothing if they think something is okay. There have been many times in the past when they gave the, "We have evaluated the game environment and everything looks fine :^)" line.
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>>182823356
>6pp 5/5 that draws 2 that is all-over constructed is bad in take two
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>>182824198
Yeah Cygame devs may be stupid but they aren't oblivious. Like I said if we don't get nerfs expect this general to start really dying like heartcuck did with the gadgetzan expansion.
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>>182815209
>overpowered as fuck Rune
Delicious.
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Anyone has a good control / vengeance blood deck? I don't want to play neutral.
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>>182823580
>man held hostage by cygames balance team.jpg
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>>182824694
I hope you like losing.
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>The only way to deal with turn 2 snow white into doggo is haven itself
>And that is the last thing we have to worry about coming from haven
I would rather blood takes another 2 months than enduring 1 month of haven shits.
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>>182824767
I'm ok with that. If you have one that still roughly works I'd appreciate it.
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>>182824694
actually does well against anything that isn't neutral spawn, then again, nothing does well against that
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>>182823301
tove sounds bad if you don't draft lots of neutral.
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>>182825114
Danke.
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>>182825047
>complaining about based Khemocraft
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>>182825237
I would really appreciate it if you shot yourself in the head with some form of firearm, thanks
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>watching some chink streams
>they still have the old metallic looking gold "You Win" font.

Is there a mod for this?
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>>182825441
That's just Cyjews being lazy. The "You Win/Lose" screen was already different in the English and Nip version before WD (not sure about now).
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>>182825441
Are you sure that you never won after the expansion release?
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>>182823970
Wait, other card? They actually killing Cthulu or baph?
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>>182825572
No, just demon key and bandersnatch.
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>>182821932
I, Mr Referee, will be your referee. Fighters ready? SNOWBATTLE!
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>>182792186
serious bro?
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>>182825571
This is how mine looks after WD
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>>182825793
The original post was already talking about Dragoon.
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Should I keep buying Wonderland packs, start dumping my coins on T2 or just save?
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>>182825842
>>182825571
and this is said streamer's
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>>182826008
IS easy to mode but i don't care and i'm doing the Ritual of the Mahjarrat
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Where are the leader results CYGAMEEEEEEEEEEEES?
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>>182826154
>not playing OSRS
>>
>tove into goblin leader into BKB
>in take 2
FUCK YOU
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>>182825920
If you have all the emblems you want from WLD, the only reason to keep buying the packs is to get vials from when the nerfs arrive.
You can either save or play T2. good luck winning though
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>>182826434
At any moment and Jeanne is the new haven leader
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>>182825858
i just woke up desu
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>>182826806
Uso da
>>
95091
Please concede
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>>182826991
It's saying your connection timed out.
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>>182826675
I would prefer Aegis over vanilla Jeanne.
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>>182822103
This is actually in reverse order
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>>182820161
>64 packs into the xpak
>1 oz, 2 jabber, 2 woe, 2 snow white, 1 dark alice
It's been a massive kick in the dick. At least when you're under rate there's still hope somehow someway that it'll swing back around and you'll get something. Over rate is just waiting to die.
>>
>spawn

LW deals 8 damage to both leaders

BOOM, fixed motherfucker

even makes bloody mary relevant
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>>182827754
Thats too intelligent for Cygames, can't you just give them your shekels gaijin-san?
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>300 mp in 2 hours
I want off this ride.
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>pull 1 spawn
>pull 1 Alice
It's calling, telling me to be the cancer
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>>182827754
Why doesn't it even have the LW. You're punishing the opponent for having extremely specific removal.
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>>182828029
It is fated.
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>>182828082
Thank you
>>
Reminder to BM every bloodshitter before lethal
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>>182827936
>>182828082
it's a good question, the "hurt yourself" part of it would ACTUALLY MAKE IT FOR CONTROL ONLY like the card is obviously made for

have bandersnatch LW, put bloody mary -> revelation for kill on t8

would be counterable with Odin or very strong t4s/t5s where they can't afford to not play something strong
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>>182828506
Well I doubt they considered that and very much doubt they take Western feedback so where would you send this good idea?
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>>182828663
They actually do take Western feedback into account.

Remember when they removed SaveDataDeleter.exe? I sent them a polite message using the in-game feedback form to bring it back. And they brought it back. Never think they don't listen
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>>182828932
Did they respond to you saying they would bring it back or do you just think they did?
>>
I wonder if Ambush is the 'powercreep' mechanic that will get an increasingly stronger card every new set. We got frog last time which, while not overpowered, shows the potential of the ability, and now we have Spawn.
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>>182829106
You must have forgotten that savedatadeleter was gone for -weeks- with no sign at all they would ever bring it back.
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>>182829190
Well what are you waiting for, you have their ear. Go fix this mess.
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>Alice now buffs the boards and hands of both players
Wouldn't that be a hilariously escalating situation?
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>>182827754
or just make spawn 7pp, enhance 8 pp gain ambush. rest of effect the same.
you can bapho to get early big beatstick but that's all, you can't cheat the rest of effect.
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>>182829126
don't forget funemployment angel
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>>182829330
Oh right. I want to sniff her butt.
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>>182829126
>Blood gets spawn
>Sword gets Kunoichi master
It's not fair
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>>182829230
>go second
>lose
hilarious
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>>182829506
Just you wait. We'll get all sorts of non neutral cards to protect hime! Ninjas and maids and knights out the ass and only 60% will be anime girls.
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>>182829621
>only 60% will be anime girls.
As if that's a good thing.
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>>182829284
it really depends on what you want, but spawn with a self harm LW would still make it what it's supposed to be, a control finisher


they can still do t5 baph - t6 spawn, but if against aggro/storm, they may not be in a position where they can take 8 face damage and not get burst to death

it also means they may have to take 2x Mask of the black death just in case, which would make their slots more defensive (aka, more controlly)
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if Magic exclusively had cute anime girl artwork there would literally be no reason to play shadowverse anymore lads
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>even eris and isabelle play goblins on turn 1
YEAH
FUCK CLASS IDENTITY
GREAT EXPANSION CYGAMES
REALLY ENJOYING IT
PLAYING AGAINST THE SAME FUCKING DECK OVER AND OVER
JUST A FEW DIFFERENT CARDS IT'S TOTALLY A DIFFERENT DECK
GO FIRST AND WIN
GO SECOND AND CONCEDE
WE'LL TOTALLY ENJOY THIS GAME EVEN AFTER THE NERFS
WE'LL TOTALLY ENJOY PLAYING AGAINST NEUTRALSHIT FOR 3 MONTHS
PLEASE GIVE US MORE FREE PACKS OF COURSE WE'LL KEEP PLAYING JUST FOR THAT
I WANT TO FUCKING CRY END THIS SHIT ALREADY
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Is Floral good in csanic?
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Can a dirtpeasent post their deck that they're having success with? I'm getting bored of bloodcancering.
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>>182830135
You have to spend money to play MtG.
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>>182830135
i'd still have to pay to play mtg tho
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>>182830232
Floral isn't good in this meta because she doesn't help fighting back aggression when going second. Play Teena.
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>>182830135
But MtG's online platform sucks. Also priority is ass on digital platforms.
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>>182830135
desu honest i just wish that devs stopped the curveshit in cardgames and do something like YGO but without powercreep and 20 years staple cards;.
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>>182830363
>>182830232
Remember how people used to complain about Floral in DE?
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>>182830760
I refuse to believe anyone was that brain damaged, sword always felt like the kid who you KNEW was getting beaten at home and was overly aggressive because of it.
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Can I get a concede?
21028
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>>182831269
Thanks Ginger
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You told me there would be leader poll results.
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>>182814547
>>182814707
>4 wins again
>final fucking round
>let's do this shit
>ok abysshitter, I have a Kiwi right here for you
>wait
>why is he spamming emotes?
>Odins my Khawhy
>This motherfucker right here had Alice, Spawn and Odin in his deck in T2
Ok, I'm done. See you guys after the patch. I tried to burn through my 40 tickets in T2 but even here it's nothing but suffering.
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>>182831571
whoever thought "middle of the month" meant exactly the middle of the month
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>>182831571
In Mid-June. That could mean up to June 21st.
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>>182830135
You can always make your own.
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>Can't escape the cancer
>Even when memeing
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>>182832009
>goblin gangbanger
>pot meet kettle, you may want to sit down for what you're about to hear
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>>182832009
MAMA, PAPA, CAMERA DESU
>>
Who we watching?
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Can't believe that worked.
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>>182832494
Baka.
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>>182831918
>June
I meant July, sorry. It's late and I need to sleep.
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>>182832598
Those Lou sleeves are pretty cute.
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>>182832746
I know.
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>>182823643
People will quit in droves if it's going to be another month of this shit. It's no longer a game in the current state, it's just coin flip with anime tiddies.
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>>182832598
I would rather lose to spawn.
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>>182832615
Last time I tried to watch him he was as salty and miserable as soulkek.
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>The game puts you against forest after drawing all your soul dealers and no belphs in your last 3 games
Elfs are for bully
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>>182833097
He's better now that he's GM. But yeah, even Railgun's not happy. I don't think it can be helped.
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>leave thread for a while
>come back
>there are 3 new replies

Thanks for a lot for killing Shadowverse, KMR-kun
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>>182833476
Most generals are slower during this time of day.. Its nothing new.
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>>182833476
Will /svg/ ever stop crying about the thread being "dead"? There are way more slower generals.
>>
>>182832858

Pretty much, only reason i log in at the moment is the WD packs. If there are no appropriate balance changes come the end of the month I'm out. No reason to continue playing something I don't enjoy, particularly when Cygames' pattern of card design demonstrate that the next expansion after this will likely introduce even more bullshit.
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https://manasurge.team/wonderland-dreams-tier-list/

>pure neutral blood with no abyss at top ?? that still runs baph to pull phantom cat
>followed by neutral abyss blood
>followed by some incredibly retarded neutral abyss blood running phantom cat to fuck over their baph pulls
>three flavors of haven below it, one being seraph because lolwhynot
>storm ramp is above any form of burn rune
>the highest most rune is a x3 taboo variant, since that totally doesn't lopside your curve
>the "aggro dirt" variant stuck down in tier 4 below daria is still running illusionist and red-hot ritual

I'm fucking baffled.
These guys not only have no idea how the fuck a "tier list" works in either variant and they're also just plainly retarded.
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Dead game dead general.
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>>182834123
Fuck off.
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>>182834071
>an entire tier of blood variants
This shit is no longer even sad, it's gone to being hysterically funny
If I worked for Cygames, I'd be writing my suicide note right about now
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luna
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>>182834568
I miss luna meta ToG was the best expansion of this game where everyone could have fun decks and fair duels.
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>>182834071
it's manasurge dude, what can you expect from them?
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>>182834657
>people actually thought it couldn't get worse than ToG
>there are people who pine for Tempest as a pinnacle of balance nowadays

I'm not sure which is more amusing
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>>182834657
I didn't enjoy the first two months, anon.
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>>182834568
Is for bullying the fuck out of.
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>>182834832
MOOOOOOOOOOOM I WON WITH NEUTRALSHIT
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>>182834071
>western teams
>shadowverse
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>>182834875
Would you rather I start Roach posting?
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>>182834071
>Storm Haven
>aggro
Not this shit again.
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>>182835029

at least roaches are from your own fucking class
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>>182835229
I'm not sure what you think BnB or Pixie Mischief are then, but okay.
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>>182834071
>Seraph
>Combo

So funny
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I want to fuck Alice.
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tell me /vg/ are you enjoying Bloodverse?
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>>182836126
its control-combo, theres this one chart with all mtg terms and their respective sv deck anyone still have it?
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The only way to save this game is to bring forest back to top once again.
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reminder that without haven blood would have a 75% playrate
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>>182836279
after thye nerf blood and neutral, Heaven and Sword will be the new cancer
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>>182836135
she's too busy raping Goblins
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>>182836195
Yes
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>>182836201
The only thing taking forest off of life support will do is take us back to the hell that Roachverse.
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>>182836201
>>182836495
just add Ambush or Storm to make Anomeme plausible
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>>182834071
>ramp dragon is still good
Are these guys serious?
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>doing 12 damage Storm with 1 roach
Im disgusted for having to do that
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TotG was a bit better, at least dragon craft was fun to play.
It was fun when you have ability to control the board, and both player going back and forth trying to find the chance they need.
compare to WD everything just snowball out of control and game end mostly because player go first curve out before second player even get to turn 4 to evolve.

not saying TotG was a perfect expansion it surely wasn't so fun either, but WD is a lot worse that is for sure.
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>>182836495

You call that hell? Compare to now? Roach was not even so bad back in the days. I was amused that people are scared of the roach back in the days when they are so many ways to deal with it, even more so now that there are still people scared of it.
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>>182836195
The topless Vampy mod makes it a lot more bearable
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>>182836930
>both player going back and forth trying to find the chance they need
When did that ever happen against dragon unless it was a mirror?
A good hand Dragon was the same instant concede as neutral blood vomit now.
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I don't understand why they didn't at very least make the class specific Neutral support have something to do with the each class's theme.
What the fuck does Falise's effect have to do with Rune? How is Tove a Blood card? Why does every single one of those cards (besides Dragon's) support the same Midrange/Aggro Alice buff playstyle?
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>Blood gets nerfed in 2 weeks
>Dirt and Elana take over
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>>182837174
against shadow too not just mirror.
it had tool to deal with shadow undying board and infinite board flood.
It was at least more interactive than now.
like i said TotG wasn't enjoyable due to those 2 deck type killing everything, but at least it wasn't this blood craft only bullshit that kill everything.
TotG at least feel a lot less like a coin flip compare to WD.
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>>182837589
Blood is the chemo that we need
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>>182837589
>Elana
t. A rank
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>>182837589
>elana
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Just Spawn bro
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what counters Earthcraft?
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>>182837589
>dirt
All you need is some dragon and they are completely dead.
Also they can't win against Elana and most haven decks.
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How do you get better at going first?
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>>182837972
Rowen
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Nerfs when? This shit is even worse than the Shadragon meta.
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>>182837972
control haven, control blood, saha ramp dragon
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>>182838049
15 days or so, my man. Just horde rupees for new leaders in the meantime or something and pray you don't run into more neutral cancer.
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>>182838015
Through practice at coin flipping.
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>>182838160
They're not nerfing anything this month.
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>>182838160
>new leaders
>rupees
Anon...
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Expect specific blood cards to get nerfed but no way will they nerf the postergirl of WD.

Neutralverse will stay until next expansion, which will mostly likely reach insane levels of powercreep to the point where they might increase leader health.
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>>182838229
retard
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>>182838229
They are though.
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In all seriousness, why do you guys bitch so much about neutral spawn, or neutral in general? Like does no one carries removals or something?
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>>182838389
Kill yourself, bloodnigger.
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>>182838160
>hoard
>for fucking cosmetics

I'll need every last drop of liquid for making decks.
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>>182838268
If they'll nerf spawn, shit would be the best.
Knowing kikegames, they'll just hit bapho and goblin leader.
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>>182838389
The problem is that those followers are overstated, way out of range of usual removals. You will hate the meta even more when they nerf blood in 2 weeks' time and Elana gets on top. Just think about those bulky followers every match gives me nightmare. The meta will become even more boring than neutral spawn.
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>>182838507
They'll hit Bapho and Tove and leave the rest. They will absolutely not nerf neutrals because everyone can use them so it's balanced :^)
It's not like Gobbu where goblin leader enables some kind of crazy deck. It's the same wherever it's played because of Alice.
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>>182838589
Elana being the top meta deck would be GREAT because almost everyone has hard counter silver bullets they can tech in. But that's precisely why Elana will never be a top meta deck, because the moment it is a significant % of players, people tech in silver bullets and it withers.
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>>182834071
How did they mark spawn blood as mid range and cat as aggro?
How is a turn 6 8 damage to the face not aggro.
usually that is enough to finish off anyone if you play with aggro play style.
not to mention they run almost the same early package.
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>>182838432
>main decks specifically for countering neutral and spawn
>ask a question regarding countering against neutral and spawn
>"you are a blood main"
How does that even make sense you cockgobbler?
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>>182838389
kys bloodnigger
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>>182837853
I don't even
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Nice. The mod still works. This game though.
>neutral rune that keeps hand to proc Abomination Awakened and Hector
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>>182838389
The problem is a fucking 2pp bronze card with a overpower ability and 3 defense.
Yes fucking Yurius is killing the game withe the overstarness cygames let this bronze get through 3 expansions oppresing everything
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>tfw winning with Elana's prayer again

Knowing that Blood and Shadowniggers get triggered over it makes victory all the more delicious.
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Need a concede @ 46892
Thanks.
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>>182838589
I never really understood the whole point behind people having this much problem against neutral. It just seem so heavily reliant on having THE perfect curve into T4 Alice to establish a win. Even then I generally have a decent time dealing with neutrals by just removing whatever they play before Alice drops.

Then again the only neutral i know is just goblin and 2 drop spam till Alice with occasional ward neutrals at t3 or Tove. Is there like a hot new neutral deck going around that doesn't use goblins or something?
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Envybaer here AMA
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>>182839060
The problem isn't really the neutral alice package, it's the stuff that complements it like Tove, or them being able to slam your face for 8/16 damage with Spawn after you deal with the neutral spam.

There's a reason that the mediocre alice packages for other crafts are way down in the tier rankings, and that goes even moreso for crafts without much synergy there.
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>>182838679
>tfw Neutral Blood is cancer, but keeps the Bahamuts and Dshitters away from your Elana's Prayer
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>>182838389
You can't ward it for the most part
Even less can hit it in ambush
Even if you do, it's STILL a free fucking forte of damage if you do anything but pixie's mischief, homecoming, bolt, caprice, an urd+evo forte if it sits a turn, and ONE damage under double urd+evo forte. All from 1 card which is trivially tutored which the tutor can also be tutored without losing speed.

8 damage without losing any tempo is a gigantic setback that is wildly out of the range of the majority of the game's healing/drain capacity. Spawn is just a dumb cancerous piece of aids. Nobody likes go second lose and they don't like didn't play X class? Lose. All classes should have a basic control curve so they at least have halfway decent cards they could take and spawn shouldn't be a 0 tempo loss super 6pp win con
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>>182839050
Thanks Ding Dong.
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>>182839060
Once you are done with Tove and gang, you have to deal with BKB and Scarlet Sabreur.
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>>182839060
I think it's neutral heavy player goes first is what makes it hard to deal with especially if you have few removal. Shit just snowballs.

Now especially with blood, even if you managed to deal with neutral package and they drop you to spawn range, it's ogre.
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>>182838951
which card is that again? Disagreeable Demon?
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>>182839310
>2pp
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>>182838808
They never saw it coming.
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>>182839060
The perfect curve isn't a problem for them with most of their deck is low cost follower.
It is up to the player going second to have perfect answer to everything til they can finally evolve and swing the board.
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>>182839418
Its astonishing how well thats working for you.
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>>182839371
Went full retard there for a minute.

Yeah I'll give you that. Even with full removals that card is just pure dildos for having all that stat unlocked for a piss easy condition. I think they should AT LEAST remove its rush.
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>>182839418
Post deck. how's that even work? I didn't think you could control hard enough with such tempo losses
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>>182837589
>Dirt
they will die against dragon if rowen doesnt brick hard enough
>>182837972
any big heals
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I can see they will remove Baphomet 5pp enhance and replace it with 2pp vengeance.
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>>182839418
You know this reminds me of something. Why did Dragoncraft mains stopped carrying Baha? Even if it is not lightning blast pre-nerf, even if it really can't do much against shadow, I still think it's a really good board wipe against most nonsense.

Half the time I fight against them, I am just 80% expecting them to drop Baha, which would have really fucked me over, but then all I see is Saha or Ouro.
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>>182838389
>just use removal bro
The best argument to bring to a balance issue.
No, you don't fucking make a 2PP with stats that are worth 3.5PP.
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>>182839804
They haven't. I see it all the time in dragon decks in masters. It's really an anti-aggro/anti-amulet tech, though. And another reason you might not be seeing it is that they have a hard win-con at 10 like Dread Sea lady, Tilting, etc. There's no reason to play Bahamut if you can just win.
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I bet the people arguing that neutral vomit is balanced used their Globe on Alice and now don't want to get cucked by nerfs.
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>>182839920
Is there an OTK with Queen? The most I can think of is 18 damage.
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>>182840149
windmill + queen + lucifer evo
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>>182839578
It's a very RNG infested deck and inconsistent as fuck, but it made some fun stories to tell my friends.
>>182839678
Most of the time I have Dire Bond by turn 3. Even then Mask + Dire Bond is a 5pp draw 3 cards heal 6. BKB and Drain is god tier in board controlling. But most of the time you just use Altered Fate to gather shadow, with some token creators to help.
Then again, I mostly play in unranked with this deck, so it's meme at best.
>>182839804
Because most games these days don't last very long.
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>>182840149
18 without stuff on board/tilting. But 18 is plenty in most games. It's not hard to get 2 ping at some point before 10 pp.
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>>182839875
AND has a goddamn rush, along with the 2pp humpty dumpty stats
How did this ever get past testing without being insanely obviously overpowered?
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>>182839120
What game are you playing right now, EnvyBAE
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>>182838389
>go second
>win
I'm going to miss the Blood meta once the nerfs are over.
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Looking for a concede

48575
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>>182839875
>No, you don't fucking make a 2PP with stats that are worth 3.5PP.
I agree, snow white is totally broken
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>>182832746
hot glou
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>>182817597
https://discord.gg/XmZwTkr
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>>182808337
Does anyone have the memey conjure guardian dshift list?
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>>182840510
thank you, Luna!
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>>182840543
>Snow White, one of the most busted and overstatted legendaries in the game is worse than Tove, a bronze

You're right to bring them up and compare, but for all the wrong reasons
Tove is a better Snow White
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Concede pls 51794 to this old fella
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Question about Jabberwocky:
What happens if I only have followers with same cost/lower ok than in my deck, on board?
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>>182840680
Snow white has 3/4 stats for 2pp
Tove only has 3/3
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>>182840830
thanks anon hope you get a catgirl and fuck right on the pussy
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>>182840916
you mean like having a 10pp follower on board? it won't summon anything
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>>182840506
I'll be impressed if someone actually posts a webm showing them beating a bloodcancer that went 1st with a decent curve.

The one you faced didn't draw gobbo leader or Alice.
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>>182834657
The pick was post nerf RoB
DE was the golden age
ToTG is when everything started going downhill
WD is life support for next to week and depending on what they will or not nerf it can go in "It's dead, Jim" or keeping the life support
Baphomet and Neutral package have to die
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Apologize.
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>>182838229
Ahahaha they better nerf Goblin leader, Feria, Alice, Baphomet and Spawn or this game is fucked
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>>182840938
>Snow white has 3/4 stats
It doesn't quite translate like that, because she still doesn't survive against a 3 attack minion, which is worse, and her "3" attack can be spread across multiple followers, which is better.
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>>182841146
I honestly think Spawn will be cancer for the next 3 months even if they nerf Baphomet. He's just way too swingy.
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>>182841146
>DE was the golden age

Yeah, no.
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>>182841084
player going second need can do
turn 1 1drop with 1/2
turn 2 spell to remove
turn 3 spell or rush to remove
turn 4 teena evolve to clear the goblin and alice

but making your deck to pull this off consistently is really hard.
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>>182841146
>DE was the golden age
Fuck no
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>>182841273
I still use him.
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>>182841392
The biggest problem is even if you go "equal" by turn 5, they play Baphomet and then Spawn and you've lost. You can't just "fight back" and "get control" to win against Neutral Blood, you have to completely blow them out. And almost no one can do that, which is why the only real counter is playing the same deck.
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>>182841391
>>182841421

t. shadowniggers
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>>182841356
Spawn would balance himself with a neutered baphomet so the shit would comeout late game like it's should be and Tove gangbang party nerfed
The main problem of spawn is it comes too fast and you can''t stop it because you had to deal with a fucking ant eater and company
The best counter to that bullshit is mirroing going first and better curve, it's ridicolous
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>>182841564
The thing is, there are already people who sit around and play Spawn on 8 once they've butchered you. All nerfing Baphomet would do is lead to way more Phantom Cat + Spawn decks that get you to 8, then Spawn + Evo on 8 to kill you from hand.
And no, Spawn is not a standard turn 8 play. If he was, Fangblade Slayer would be an 8/8.
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>>182841564
Spawn is broken regardless how hard bapho is neutered.

At best only 2 crafts can counter it safely. The combination of last word and ambush is what it makes it retardedly strong. At least one of those things should be conditional like needing vengeance, 3 neutrals/5cards/etc or removing one of them completely.
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Post-RoB was the best meta. By far. Grinder decks like Wall Dirt and CBlood could actually do well, because Aegis didn't exist yet and wards actually were able to stabilize you because no Grimnir. Saha Ramp was fine and not cancer yet. Albert was the only rage-worthy card and he could simply be cucked by wards as well. It's been going downhill exceedingly fast since Tempest.
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>>182841768
>Ambushed
>have nothing in had with "Remove a random enemy follower"
>concede
Ambush has to fuck off atleast
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>>182841878
Post-nerf RoB I obviously meant.
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>>182841878
>Grinder decks like Wall Dirt and CBlood could actually do well, because Aegis didn't exist yet

You do realize that D-shift exists and completely rapes all Control and Grinder decks, right? Aegis is just D-shift lite, except it comes out a turn later and actually has some counters.
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>>182841989
>actually has some counters
uh
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>>182841989
Except Dshift got fucked hard by Midsword, which was the most popular deck at that time. I mean, sure maybe it was different in Masters, but I got some of my longest winstreaks going from AA0 up to Master with Wall Dirt during RoB.
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>>182841989
>counters
>stall in HAVEN until you have your follower who ignores your enemy's attempts at stopping it
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>>182842164
Although I believe post-RoB was the second best meta, the one thing it has in common with DE is that you could certainly play Control decks and stand a chance against the meta.

D-shift is there primarily as a safety device to ensure that duels don't last long. If control decks ever become meta, D-shift exists as the paper to their rock. Much like a deck focused on Aegis, it won't ever be THE meta deck because heavy aggro can easily destroy it, but it exists to keep the R/P/S nature of the game in tact and has done so throughout the game's life.
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>>182810438
That is actually very hot.
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>>182841878
>albertcraft and d-shit hell
>best meta
no
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>>182841472
Then you should be glad lots of player switching to cat and less spawn on ladder.
I find that retarded and couldn't understand the reasoning behind it.
when is turn 6 spawn a tempo lose? when u could evolve and trade while threaten lethal all in 1 turn. He also get 9 health which mean it will survive any trade while out of range for those 3 damage effect.
It also offer the potential for OTK if opponent didn't pressure enough, that you could afford the turn 6 do nothing tempo loss.
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>get fucked in T2
>35 coins after 2 wins
>FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF-
>fuck me in my OCD, this won't stand
>start a new T2
>go 2-0 and quit
>40 coins
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF-
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>>182820875
oh god no, enough of that shitty artist
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>This month neutral blood
>Next month Elana cancer and burn rune
STOP
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>>182842396
>with DE is that you could certainly play Control decks and stand a chance against the meta.

Not true at all.

The only decks that could play control were Haven and D-shift as a counter of Haven, outside of it was really bad and inconsistent.

Control Shadow had 0 wincon cards to play, the only wincon control shadow card was Mordecai on a meta were Odin and Havens were everywhere. Cerberus + Howl as a wincon was already on midrange and Belzebub was just not consistent based that hard on RNG for control. And control shadow facing D-shift was a 100% lose. Only consistent deck was Aggroshadow.

Anything not face for Dragon was utter shit, period.

Forest was toptier already with Tempo, why would u play control on Forest.

Haven Elana-Seraph cancer and Storm for easy climbing

''Control'' Blood was consistent until people realized the potential of Elana-Seraph, it was a good deck versus Elana but with the mix of Seraph not anymore.

Midrange Sword nothing more to say.
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>>182818997
But he only deserted in Nexus.
In reality is stayed with based Rowen.
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>>182843049
>complaining about decks with obvious counters
A rank?
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>>182843262
What's the counter for burn rune?
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>>182843262
t. D0
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>>182843335
>>182838126
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>>182830192
delet this shit you fucking cuck-minded subhuman
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>>182843335
anything with decent healing. cblood, haven, dragon, csword with lucifer.
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>>182843612
Oh, so a haven meta? I so love to see infinite healing and infinite scaling followers. It is like Alice is not enough and we bring in something even more busted.
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Elana is inconsistent garbage and won't be good ever again. Kill yourselves AA rank shitters.
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>>182841330
I hope also cock
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>>182843770
the infinite healing is just the midgame anon (on top of their 2 better dragon warriors for the price of 1). early game they still have the second most broken 2 drop in the game + the best removal in the game, and lategame they have the most broken insta-win bullshit imaginable.

the haven meta will be levels of cancer no CCG has seen for decades.
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Can't they just announce the nerfs already so i know what fucking DW legendary craft?
Still 0 after like 20 packs
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>>182843770
>>182843898
gets hard countered by csword. white ridge and roland do a lot against them.
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>>182838229
The English twitter account retweeted some post about how Neutral Spawn is an unprecedented disaster. They know. Nerfs will come.
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>>182844059
link?
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>>182843996
Just craft any legendary that's still playable even after like two or three bronzes enabling them get nerfed. I'd say Snow White, Alice and Oz are all safe crafts.
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Meta so stupid boring let's play some reverse take 2
86042
make deck you feel like fighting against
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>>182844187
I guess I falsely remembered it being more scathing than it actually is, but it definitely shines a light on the problem, so they are aware.
http://www.theshadownexus.com/ayas-insight-breaking-down-the-titan-spawn-of-the-abyss/#sthash.vmFTdFMG.uxfs
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>>182808337
Is there a full version of this image?
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>>182844396
>shadownexus
>>>/discord/
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>>182844471
I'm posting a link the official Shadowverse twitter retweeted after someone specifically asked for it. How the fuck does that make me discord you paranoid fucking shit eater?
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>>182844528
because i'm a fucking human trash
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>>182844373
room still open for reverse take 2
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>>182844528
Link to that tweet?
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>>182844772
https://twitter.com/shadownexuscast/status/884926378709327872
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>>182844856
>shadownexuscast/status/884926378709327872
You said it was tweeted by official Shadowverse twitter.
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>>182844893
REtweeted
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Get ducked, isaboob.
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>>182845173
>mutagenic
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>>182845223
Either that or young levi. Good thing I didn't get that salt.
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>>182844373
that deck was kind of fun to play.
almost won with it too.

anyway room still open for more reverse take two
same room
86042
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>60% to go
Guess I need to work harder in the next 2 weeks.
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Why the fuck is Tove a card? Every class has the going 1st 2-3-4 curve of 2/2->Leader->Alice (2/2 clearing if opponent plays 2/2 on 2 going 2nd). Blood's the only class that gets to beat it by playing Tove on 2, making it so the player going 1st can threaten Leader while still developing their board.

Not that every class shouldn't have tools to be able to deal with Leader->Alice shenanigans, but Blood being the only class being able to do so means you have to play it if you want to deal with it in a way that doesn't rely on your opponent turning on your Snow White.

I'm just sick of the class with the best offensive tools ALSO having the best defensive tools.
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>>182846064
just shield of flame/kaleidoscopic glow/breath of the salamander/zombie party/hungering horde/blackened scripture bro
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>>182845871
what deck are you playing?
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>>182846064
>>182846215
Don't forget Hamsa.

>>182846218
NEET Shadow.
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>>182846218
Tyrant Shadow
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>>182846215
Yeah, but then you can't develop your Leader on 3. Which is the whole problem of the Alice curve. If my opponent chooses to give up playing any unit on 3, I'm perfectly fine going second because I'm more likely able to make up tempo with my evolves.
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>>182845508
new room 22298
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>>182846270
I love that deck it feel a lot more consistent in pulling the combo now due to tons of card draw.
too bad people start running a little bit more ward now.
harder to do turn 6 13 damage without getting stop by ward.
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>>182845871
What formula do you use to count the estimated matches left?
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>>182846215
>>182846240
Perhaps I wasn't able to explain myself well enough. Let's assume this starting play sequence
P1T1: Pass
P2T1: Pass
P1T2: 2/2 for 2

What cards can you play as P2T2 to stop your opponent from developing Leader->Alice on P3T1->P4T1? Your normal goto would be to play a P2T2 2/2 for 2 to passively threaten your opponent from playing Leader on 3. However, if you do your opponent just elects to trade 2/2s and plays Leader on an empty board.

...P2T2: Tove! makes it so you can't go P1T3: Leader?, or you're going to get your lunch eaten when your opponent goes P2T3: 3-drop, Tove eats Leader. Even if you develop P1T3: Alice, your board is now

P1: Alice + 2/3 Gobbo + 3/3 dork vs
P2: 3/2 Tove + 3-drop
What do you do here? If you trade Gobbo into Tove and dork into their 3-drop, they get to immediately take advantage when they T4 evo eat Alice, leaving you with a weakened 3-drop. If their 3-drop was their own Leader, eating the Leader + Tove leaves you with Alice + 3/2 vs Gobbo. P2T4 Alice + evo trades Gobbo into 3/2 and has P2 Alice eat P1 Alice, leaving you with board vs no board.

Tove is the only 2-drop in Shadowverse right now that allows any of these lines. There are no other 3-drops with a minimum 2-power (threaten leader) and 3-defense (prevent P1T3 trade).
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>>182846501
1/(Average winrate - Lossrate)
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>>182846625
General way to play around it is
Just 2pp removal bro
But seriously, no other way around that fucking ant eater because that's how it is.
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So I came back to Shadowverse after almost two months break and could someone please explain to me what in the FUCK is Spawn of the Abyss?
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>>182846669
>>182846501
Correction. It's Remaining MP/(Average winrate - lossrate)
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Concede onegai!
66086
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>>182846741
It's exactly what you think it is.
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>>182846736
But 2pp removal doesn't change the fact that you weren't able to develop Leader on 3. Not playing Leader on 3 means that you're now conceding the kind of broken start that is allowed vs. every other class.

I'm not arguing that Tove doesn't die to every 2pp removal on the sun. It's just that 2pp removal vs. Tove either doesn't allow you to develop your Leader (going first), or doesn't allow you to develop your board to threaten your opponent's Leader w/o an additional piece of 2pp removal.

Given that the second situation's a problem universal to all classes, I skipped over it. The unique problem about Tove is that it actually requires a reactive answer as opposed to just smashing your T2 2/2 into it. This means that Tove proactively prevents your opponent from developing T3 Leader, meaning blood get to T4 going second without being swallowed up by Leader -> Alice and gets to actually make use of their evolve points w/o struggling to stay afloat.
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>>182846741
It is a big fuck you to who ever is at the receiving end.
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>>182846909
Thanks Eaglebro
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This is not okay.
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>>182828932
where did you send your message?
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>>182847108
wtf I love spaghetti now
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>>182847174
Howso? Lyrial -> Evo leaves you with a 4/3 and a 3/1 vs a 1/1.
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>>182847174
>alice instead of teena
Mate
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>no alucard, or cat that draw 2 neutrals to fuck me over.
Im surpriced.
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What are some good swordcraft decks that arent neutral alice?

Started recently and i like the class
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New thread
>>182847123
>>182847123
>>182847123
>>182847123
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>>182846945
>>182847020
This card is just evil
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>>182847479
Rowan stop posting on wrong thread.
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>>182843864
they are not gonna touch sword, they will like prioritize Blood and neutral core
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>>182847578
It's just a meme, Cygames reps said so. Thank you.
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>>182843864
can't nerf honestcraft
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>>182847861
>It's just a meme
What does it even mean? How is it supposed to comfort me?
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>>182846840
Thanks. I am currently an A rank shitter trying to get to AA.
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Why do you do this to me, game? I don't want to play that much.
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63576
Need a win for dailies
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>>182848336

>he hasnt switched to solo missions yet

So much less stress anon, get on average 60 gold daily in 5-10 minutes
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>>182849085
>60gold
lol
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>>182849139

I'm not trying to spend over an hour struggling to win 3 matches with Forest every other day. Yes, solo gives you less gold overall, but topped up with the daily login bonus and on most occasions you've got yourself a pack. But each to their own.
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>>182848336
>>182849085
Wait, I haven't been playing much, what are these new solo player missions? Is there a list somewhere?
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There is nothing good in this game in this expansion. It's just not worth playing.
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>>182849464
Alice clocks is fun
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>>182842823
>its another episode of anon pretending mel/a's art is bad
I want this rerun taken off the air
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>>182849528
>sameface garbage
no thanks
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>>182849528
It's not bad, but its pretty undetailed in contrast to pretty much every other art used in the game so it just doesnt fit in
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>>182845871
>5 hours to get ~700 master score
Is it just the deck he's playing or is it actually this hard?
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>>182849528
>pretending
>bad anatomy
>bad render
>sameface
>bland poses
???
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>>182849807
+ he doesn't know how to draw pantyhose
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>>182849443

Same missions as normal dailies except they give less gold, but can be completed in story/practice mode with any CPU difficulty. You activate them by going to the missions page and selecting 'solo missions' in the right hand corner. It will replace the usual dailies once the 21 hour cycle resets.
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>>182849528
>pretending
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>>182849937
What is the point of that dark band anyway? I heard it's for reinforcement but why would that particular area need reinforcing?
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>>182849528
Why does she have two pairs of ears?>>182849635
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The devs are incompetent.
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>>182850482
because kemonomimi always have human and animal ears
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Me on the right.
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HOW TO FIX BKB
>returns hand to card instead of destroying
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>>182848336
Well that went well. Thank you game.
The game only gave me 1 blood opponent,
the rest being 2 shadow and 4 rune, 2 of which were Dshitters
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Soo, my 20 packs I just opened gave me a whole (1) Dark Alice! Now I have two of those.
Does that DA/Satan deck actually work? Is it worth the 3500 vial investment? Do you think it's good enough to climb in AA?
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Alice and Actress should not buff defense
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>>182850737
put 2x dark alice, 3x ToS and 1x satan in a midshadow deck, then it'll work
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>>182849635
>demon girls look like other demon girls
Shocking revelation, more news at 11

>>182849660
There are so many artists in this game that you can hold up to each other that don't blend together, that doesn't make any of the art bad, it just means there's variety. Variety isn't a bad thing, y'know.

>>182849807
>bad anatomy
This just means you hate big boobs, doesn't it
>bad render
What do you even mean by this?
>sameface
Already addressed
>bland poses
That's an opinion, and a bad one at that

>>182849937
In fairness, most of the pantyhose in his art is added in afterwards for censorship reasons, so that's not really the artist's fault when they're not supposed to be there in the first place. In this piece it was actually supposed to be there, and there's notably more detail put into it as a result.
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>it's the melfag shitposter again
oh god get a trip you fucking autist
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>>182850793
>in a midshadow deck
So with 3x balanced man?
I only have one of those :(
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>>182850793
What if the opponent makes you draw cards
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>>182850908
>I only have one of those
just craft it, it's shadow's best card
>>182850912
what did he mean by this
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>>182850870
>everyone who disagrees with me is one person
Contrary to what you might be trying to convince yourself of, I'm not the only one that likes his art. Hell, I barely even post here these days, so I can almost guarantee you that the last time there was a "melfag shitposter" it wasn't me.
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>>182851027
>defending this
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ok, give how shit is this meta, post some fun meme decks
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>>182851138
Poorfags stay away.
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>Make shitload of 2 def removals in previous expansions
>Make plenty of followers giving +1/+1 in Wonderland
These dense motherfuckers
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>>182851239
i could actually play this
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>>182851239
Wallet decks are not meme anon (last time I checked)
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>>182851276
you think they did not this on purpose ??
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>>182851292
It's a Ginger deck with Abomination. Sounds pretty memey to me.
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>>182851352
you are not wrong but I fell like using the wallet neutral core kills some of the "fun" of memeing decks imo
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>>182851085
>implying it's bad
What exactly do you dislike about it? The anatomy's fine, her back is straight and normal, nothing about the pose in unrealistic other than the fact that she's flying. Again, do you just not like big boobs? That's fine as a preference, but it doesn't make art with big boobs objectively bad.

The only real complaint here is the compression artifacts, which is valid, but that wasn't in the original art so fuck knows why it's in the SV art. I'd like that cleaned up just as much as you would, but I'm guessing Cygames lost the uncompressed art somewhere along the way and just hasn't bothered to ask for it back, since there's no other viable explanation for the fuckening going on there, especially near her chin.
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>>182851239
sammy over witch of sweets random dirt cards instead of full neutral package rly.
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>>182849690
I think he's stupid for delaying the grind until now
I got GM with 20k month score, because I did it on the first days where people still ran fucking neutral sword on ladder, thinking it was hot shit
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This expansion makes no sense. Where's the fun in every deck being the same? I just got killed turn 5 by Haven playing only neutral cards.
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>>182851437
Well there is this version without the Saha package that uses Illusionist and Taboo.
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>>182851239
>almost half your deck costing 5 and over
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So the game is shit now, right?
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>>182852023
It has been shit since after the first week of WD
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>>182849690
it is actually pretty easy if you play spawn and understand how to play it.
took me 2 day to get to GM, but feel so numb after tho.
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>>182852023
You are the one who shit, feggit.

Git gud LMAO
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>>182852023
The game hasn't been good since RoB
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>>182852105
How many hours a day? I may make masters with spawn before the end of the month so I was wondering if I had enough time left for GM before they nerf the deck.
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>>182852023
Better than TotG.
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36181
Concede please.
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>>182852473
lol
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well, this was hell
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>>182852597
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>>182852570
Thank you Eris.
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>>182852701
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>>182852668
Doesn't look too bad if your next couple of draws are combo pieces since you already have Feena and some damage on. Just hope to roach em.
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>>182808337
What the fuck is this I was browsing the catalogue and instantly popped a boner

Goddamn how do I get into this game and get her
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>>182852802
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>>182852868
>how do I get into this game
don't
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>>182852868
>read about re roll
>probaly roll for alice or spawn
Fap to Vampy and good lucky
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>>182852868
1. Download the game on Steam or on your phone.
2. Reroll your account until you get her
3. ???
4. Thighs
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>>182852868
Literally just download the game and open the free packs it gives.
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I AM STUCK IN A0 WITH BUDGET AEGIS

PLEASE SEND HELP
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>everoyne complains about blood and storm haven
>meanwhile i run into nothing but elana and dshift
WHY
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>>182853161
>complaining
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>>182852868
The game isn't going to be _fun again until they nerf the current tier 0 deck that's only unfavored against itself when going second, and nerfs aren't coming until the end of the month. If you're really determined to pick up best girl though, you can start rolling accounts now to try and pull her. Her deck has pretty much always been solid, and it'll be great once the reign of spawn cancer comes to an end.

There's a lot of opinions on what her deck should be, but here's what I run personally so you at least know what cards you should probably aim for. The idea is to only run 4 follower costs so Nep always pulls the same things, which is a really good combo. The rest of the deck just focuses on living to turn 8 so you can play Nep.

Other than all that, just go through the links in the OP to get a handle on things and you should be alright. Best of luck to ya anon, and remember you're now stuck here until the servers die just like the rest of us
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>>182853234
>bellringer
>sexton without attendant
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>>182853301
>not running an early game ward with a last words effect in a last words control deck
>running both 3-drops and 4-drops in Nep
Sexton is just a tech I'm using to screw with all the Haven players trying to counter Spawn, you could replace him with pretty much any 2pp 2/2 and be fine. Bellringer is a must though, you need early wards against aggro before Death's Breath on turn 6, and you're not getting anything better than her in the 2pp slot. You also need her card draw since not drawing exactly what you need by the turn you need to play it gets you killed with this deck. Like, you can't afford to miss Khawy on 7 or Nep on 8, and a lot of the time you'll need Breath on 6, which means you need to also draw into enough early game to hit 6 shadows. Card draw is really important, hence why I'm running 3 Conversion, 3 Bellringer, and 3 Demon Eater on top of that.
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>>182853046
Just elana bro
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>>182853708
NO ELANA, ONLY SUFFERING HERE
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>>182853234
Oh thanks I will try rolling for her I already took a screenshot of your post thanks.
Just a question is it p2w or require you to pay ?because I am playing fire emblem heroes since launch and never paid anything and game is generous with it's currency.
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>>182852868

Just fap to it and move on, you'll be happier
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>>182853891
no, you get a shit ton of packs and this is probably the most generous ccg out there
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>>182853891
This is like FEH in that you get a tonne of free currency and it's usually not worth it to spend real money because the currency is overpriced as hell (just like orbs in FEH).
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>>182853784
2400 vials. You have that. Use it.
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>>182853891
It's super not P2W, if anything buying packs with real money tends to not be worth it. You'll earn enough from promotions/missions/achievements to be fine, the only things you might want to put money in for are purely cosmetic. Prebuilt decks can be nice if you want to just get certain cards guaranteed, but you can craft/pull everything in them aside from the exclusive alternate artwork versions of legendary cards, but again they're purely cosmetic so they don't actually affect gameplay in any way. There will be a Nep prebuilt sometime within the next 3 months, but the prebuilt decklist is pretty bad so it'd only be worth it if you really like this alternate artwork for Nep, or if you just don't want to craft/pull 3 of her before then.
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suncatan is on

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYJxnfiwtnQ
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Requesting a concede.
44852
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>>182854674
SORE DE WA
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>>182854674
>he got memed on by Pamela
I tuned in just in time to see that.
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>>182854714
Thank you, Bird of Freedom.
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29741

Please concede
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>>182855343
thanks vampy!
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Damn, the duck is no longer a meme to me. He's rarely a 0/2
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>>182855573
Don't fuck with the duck.
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>>182855501
Silly vampire, you don't need those
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>>182853891
https://imgur.com/a/aP9Rz
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>>182854674
>open link
>first thing i see is urias buffing his full goblin board with feria
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>>182822507
>coin flip tournament
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>>182854674
Why he keep saying "Mentaru Breakku" ?
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>>182856589
This should be added to the OP.
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>>182856810
it's the name of his sun satan deck
cute
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>>182854674
SAAAAAA
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lol unga bunga retard
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>>182854674
>bricks, shit draws and mulligans

I swear, draw system is rigged for neutral shit. After WD patch control decks bricks all day for unknown reason
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Why can't we get a mission to kill the goblins and free us from their menace? Turn SV into a temporary MMOCCG YGO; duels never ends.
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>>182854674
He's pretty cute, I'd fuck him.
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>>182857529
he probably is older than your dad
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>>182857947
That's fine, I'd let him fuck me too.
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Play against 3 elana-aegis the same day.

Ok my anti-aggro deck is not adapted, decided to tech versus elana.

during 3 days, no elana player encountered in ranked.
Just why.
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>>182858134
>tech versus elana
You are fucking retarded.
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>>182858134
>Play against 3 elana-aegis the same day.
This was probably the same guy. There is like 5 elana players in total.
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>>182858320
elana is all over the ladder
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>go 2nd
>lose on turn 4
fun and interactive
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>>182858258
>suncatan
>offtopic
get the fuck out newfag shitter
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>>182858560
The little penis e-celeb of yours is not even streaming SV, liars fuckers. He's just playing some underage game worse than SV.
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>>182858685
>The little penis e-celeb of yours is not even streaming SV, liars fuckers.
he was streaming sv when that anon linked it
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>>182858982
kill yourself discord
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>>182854674
>Playing pubg instead
>With the bowgun
MENTALLY BROKEN
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>>182851239
wallet decks a best, especially on craft where your opponent thinks you are early game aggro only and then starve and die against the late game
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>>182859161
literal autism
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>>182858365
A rank?
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Cygames will try and nerf 3-8 cards to balance Alice and Spawn instead of balancing Alice and Spawn themselves.

Note, it's gonna start with only 3 cards and then when nothing changes they're gonna nerf more.
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>>182859596
A rank is harder than low Master and AA.
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>>182859725
Its not harder, its just more unpredictable.
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>>182852868
http://imgur.com/a/aP9Rz
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>>182859725
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>>182859646
Only 2 cards will be nerfed.
>it's key and bandershit
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>>182859785
It's true. Make new account and test yourself. Japanese sandbaggers likes A rank
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>>182859845
That was obviously their plan. Nearly all other cards that blood has that can be pulled by bander and key are all fanfare abilities
They literally forgot that baphomet existed. Its so obvious
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Here are the nerfs
>Goblin leader is now a fenare
>Feria only gets +1/+1 on evo
>Tove 3/2 stats
thats all you get
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>>182859845
You're joking now, but that's what will actually happen. We're gonna have a lot of fun times together with tove, bkb, sabreur, and spawn.
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>>182860037
>>Feria only gets +1/+1 on evo
this fix nothing
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>>182851550
Mate, I got busy in the first week. Not to mention I am adamant against neutral blood.
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Why do I always get upset when I get BM-ed?

How do I stop being a little bitch and stop caring?
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>>182860037
That changes literally nothing
Goblin leader is still getting 4 followers on field by turn 3, which is nigh impossible to clear for T4 Alice
Feria is honestly 5th or 6th in line for nerfs in the first place.
I don't even care if tove stays 3/3, it just needs to only be able to attack when a neutral follower is summoned every turn. Not the "lol heres a single goblin, it can now attack for the rest of the game

>goblin leader to 4pp (unfortunately dumpsters the card but its necessary for neutral nerfs)
>Baph enhance removed (another unfortunate nerf but can't be helped thanks to spawn)
>Tove needs a neutral card summoned EVERY TURN to be able to attack
>BKB fanfare destruction threshold from 3 to 2

These nerfs are way more important to anything Feria does. The goblin leader nerf alone weakens Feria since there are less followers on field early game.
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>>182860563
The only reason you lost was because your enemy got luckier with their hand.

I started thinking like that and game became more enjoyable.
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>>182860574
Goblin Leader is a non-issue by itself. What breaks him is the Alice follow up. Ideally, Alice would be butchered, but Kikegames would never do that.
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>>182860563
Disable opponent emotes, you sissy faggot.
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>>182860731
Hence why goblin leader to 4pp prevents the 1 drop-2 drop-gob leader-alice curve which is near impossible to come back from when the opponent is going first.
We both know they'll never touch Alice
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>>182860574
You arent getting any of those
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>>182860879
I know
It sucks that goblins is how shadowverse ends.
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Why do I have to wait for an opponent who's already dead?
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Ready for some hearthstone-tier balancing?

>actress feria is now a 2/1
>tove is now a 2/3 and no longer has rush
>BKB is now a 3/3 (evo 5/5)
>scarlet saboteur is now a 1/4
>goblin leader has added effect: "counts as a 1 mana card" (becomes vulnerable to kaleidoscope glow and Lucius)
>alice now has stunted evo (3/4 that evolves to 4/5)
>baphomet's enhance now only reduces minions cost by 2 instead of 3
>spawn of the abyss; ambush changed to Fanfare: ambush (now must play it from hand to gain ambush instead of tutoring it out with demon key or bandersnatch)
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>>182860879
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>>182861025
Change spawn to:
>Fanfare: Vengeance: gain ambush
I'd almost agrree with you.

But none of those will happen.
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>>182861025
>scarlet saboteur is now a 1/4
>nerfing the attack of a Bane follower
>>
>have better success with Cblood instead of neutral shit
Neutral cancer is literally RNG based shittery
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>>182861025
>ruin baphomet but also ruin the card he pulls
yep thats blizzard
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>>182860574
You know, it occurs to me, is dragon the only craft that can clear 4 followers by turn 3 when going second?
>t1 dragon breath
>t2 salamander
>t3 x2 dragons breath/dragon breath + sala
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>>182861025
>legendary
>nerf
Never
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>>182861148
I think the joke went over your head. enhanced baphomet could still tutor out spawn on turn 6 for 6pp and spawn would functionally still be the same even with fanfare ambush
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>>182861216
forest can just use 2 elf twin assaults
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>>182861512
>forest can just use 2 elf twin assaults
>forest can just use the card that requires you using the Neutral Core
cancer with cancer
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When will we get Teena and Lucius father to save us from the goblins
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>>182861512
I want to be assaulted by elf twins.
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>>182861619
Why are elves so rapeable?
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>>182861025
>nerf alice on evolve but give her nothing in return
Just make it so that it buffs your board on fanfare and buffs your hand on evolve
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>>182861613
>"Goblinslayer"
>can't kill Goblin Leader, King or Mage
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>>182861025
>(now must play it from hand to gain ambush instead of tutoring it out with demon key or bandersnatch)
literally no body gets Spawn out this way nigger
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>>182861927
That's the joke
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Why do people always run out of cards?
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>>182861025
>>spawn of the abyss; ambush changed to Fanfare: ambush (now must play it from hand to gain ambush instead of tutoring it out with demon key or bandersnatch)
Honestly, just nerfing Bapho would be more effective. I'm surprised you gutted everything else but gave spawn such a light nerf.
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>>182862110
>play one of the crafts with the most foolproof drawing cards against the craft with literally the worst drawing cards
>wonder why you have the better hand sustainability
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>>182862314
>rabbit
>spring cleaning
>maid
>conscription
>hurr sword cant draw
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>>182862314
Forest has the worst drawing in the game by far
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>>182861719
Even Teena is better at his job than him.
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>>182862432
>rabbit
Neutral cancer
>maid/consciption
Fetch, not draw
>spring cleaning
Suicide

Is you're gonna troll, at least mention swords only good draw card, mentors teaching.
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>>182862432
>rabbit
only good in a neutralshit deck
>maid
literally their only good draw
>spring cleaning
>conscription
i'm surprised that you didn't include stratagem at this point
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>>182862432
>>182862110
That's why /svg/ havenfags are cancer
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>>182862432
>typical havenshiter response
If those were haven cards they wouldn't see play either.
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>>182862604
Every single haven deck would use maid to tutor aegis and seraph
Shows how retarded ungas are, not even able to think outside the box
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Feels bad man. This is the first expansion that things go this bad.
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NANI?
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>>182862971
You can play Forest of Blood with that.
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>>182862447
Forest has one usable draw card. They also used to have Harvest Festival.
Sword has absolutely 0 usable draw outside of Rabbit, that is restricted to Neutralshit.
inb4
>Maid
That's not draw. She is a tutor that's even being dropped for being such a week tempo play, which is suicide in this meta.
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>>182862641
Next you're going to say that sword has healing because they can use angel and lucifer.
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>>182863050
I do. But perfect neutral curve just completely destroys me most of the time.
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>>182862971
>Feels bad man
what
>>
>>182863141
That's odd. Doesn't standard forest run TEA and SJ for removal now to save cards for B&B?
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>>182863141
Don't reply to him.
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>>182863047
It's not that uncommon.
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>>182863098
Maid is being dropped because sword can no longer afford to only run albert
Cinderella/Mage are too important and make maid useless
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>>182863237
Don't derail this thread with your nonsense.
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>>182863141
Don't reply to the namefag attention whore.
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>>182862587
But only one of those posts is mine. I'm new to the game and whatever I play against they usually run out of steam so quick that I end up with a bunch of dead cards in my hand. The only ones that usually keep up with me are runecraft and dragoncraft.
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>>182863437
That's because your average card cost is higher than average. Less average PP cost = more cards played per turn which is why they run out of cards.
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>>182863437
That's because you are playing a Control deck with THE Control class. That's just what is supposed to happen.
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>>182862971
>13 leggos, most meta or playable
>feels bad man
how many packs have you even opened for those?
you should have seen my tog pulls...
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>>182863531
But shouldn't aggro decks usually pressure you at least a bit? What's the point of playing lots of low cost stuff when you don't do anything with them?
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>>182863437
Control decks play draw and high value cards. Most Midrange and Aggro decks run out of steam if they can't kill you early, while your deck is built to last and keep card advantage.
>>
Any decent Elana deck? Or ANY decent deck? Please, I'm desperate.
>>
when should one trade with spawn on turn 6?
>>
>Cblood
>draw only removals until T9
stop this
>>
>>182863818
Elana is inconsistent trash. Play Aegis or Blood.
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>>182862432
>rabbit (reliant on neutral and having a board)
>spring cleaning (not really draw, its a trade, cannot control what you lose)
>maid (fetch, very small body, does nothing if you have no commanders)
>conscription (fetch, no body, only pulls officers, pulls nothing if you have no officers )
>strategem (reliant on board, 4pp do nothing spell)
>mentors teaching (1 draw plus +1 attack)
VS
>plea (2 draw)
>radiance (1 draw +heal + respectable body)
>judge (1 draw +banish + respectable body)
>hallowed (1 draw +amulet reduction)

Honestly I'm probably forgetting some of havens draw.
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>>182863207
>TEA and SJ
I can't tell if you're serious. You can't even remove tove or sleeping beauty with that, its the same as assuming Sword's Swing do shit against aggro flood.
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>>182863830
Against Rune or Haven, since it's getting mutagenic'd /caprice'd / themis'd the next turn
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>>182863957
Stop replying to him
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>>182863818
The big thing about elana decks is that they're only decent with turn 3 elana
If you don't get elana out until turn 6-7 you've probably lost all control of the game at that point
>>
Elana thrives in this meta. We have to fill our decks with low cost garbage to survive the early neutral barf. No one plays Bahamut other than Dragon and Dragon folds if Elana techs in even one Aegis.
Elana was laughed at last expansions because it got no support. Tenko makes a turn 2 Aria a complete nightmare. Not even Conflag can clear it. It's only Themis, mutagentic or winter's caprice. Guess what that's only restricted to two classes.

Only Blood's balanced Tove and turn 7 20 damage combo is keeping Haven, not just Elana in check. Haven decks are getting faster where you can't just farm them with Dshift anymore.
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>>182863898
Aegis has a spot in Elana
Alternative wincon
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>>182863957
You can remove Tove situationally with it depending on your opening. It's obviously not as easy as blackened scripture or hungering horde drag and drop but possible. Against everything but those, it can be consistently useful desu.
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>>182863898
But I am playing Aegis and can't get out of A0. Am I a retard? Is it the case?
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>>182864082
Don't forget snow white who is a 2 and 3 drop in one.
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>>182864207
>>182864207
>>182864207
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>>182864040
[shitposting intesifies]
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>>182862110
Because of dumb hag with boardclearers.
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>>182864165
delete all the decks
then netdeck something
A0 is where you have to play something at least half-optimal
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>>182863675
About 60~70 packs, I think. But I'm used to get at least 2 copies of all legendaries within 3 weeks.
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>>182864287
>at least half-optimal
You play against other netdecks since B rank
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>>182864442
>I'm used
Well, I suggest you get rid of that mindset, anon. Clearly you have been too lucky for your own good.
That is an INSANE pull for 60-70 packs. Just missing 3 Alices and you are all set.
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>>182864442
kys luckshitter.
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