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>Tried to kill NG+7 Twin Princes at SL1
>>182608149

>App 1.14, Regulation 1.35 patch notes
http://store.steampowered.com/news/externalpost/steam_community_announcements/3044845282383816896

>READ ME BEFORE POSTING, IF YOU'RE NEW
https://pastebin.com/wgfcUqaM

>Character Planner
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/

>DARK SOULS 3
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u8Mak1goSv4g73g16XsWV4sJelDQUatWkP2kcO6GVAA/pub
>Full Soundtrack
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B66vvDQ_rAMyS29wdTR6ajZsczQ

>DARK SOULS 2
http://pastebin.com/CAx8Yc8v

>DARK SOULS
http://pastebin.com/eNY3su63

>DEMON'S SOULS
http://pastebin.com/RjpF5s7a
http://imgur.com/a/eSXdv/layout/grid

>BLOODBORNE
http://pastebin.com/WdLBWD8n

>KING'S FIELD
http://pastebin.com/G8zw0sc3

>Community & Fanart
http://pastebin.com/vVWz9pJm
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Hi
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>>182682369
Hiya!
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first for losing when cheating
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>>182682175
Stop linking to the Discord with that shitty pastebin. Use the original instead.

https://pastebin.com/Txe190aw
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>>182682369
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>>182682854
Are you autistic?
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Return from whence thou cam'st
For that is thy place of belonging.
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>>182682854
What happened to that last warning, tough guy?
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>>182682854

heh.....
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Ds2 is a tolerable game.

Lucy is a shit head.

Gwyn did nothing wrong.
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>>182683095
Hate to be pedantic but technically it should be 26 for the last two builds there since that is what rounds to 40 STR in 3.
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>>182682175
Fuck off alex
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*ninja flips*
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>>182682854
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>>182683181
I agree.
But I haven't bothered to retype and repost it yet.
It's only a small difference.

Here's more info graphics.
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>>182683354
Fair enough, it's only a point difference but for the autistic among us like me it does matter when building.

While we're posting info graphics here's this one for catalysts that someone should update for the DLC ones.
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poise
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>>182683181
>>182683095
>other anons quoting my posts, errors and all

feels good man
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*survives 3 boss fights in a row*
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>that one invader that keeps invading that you make short work of every time
i feel like shit, am i supposed to let him win on the 5th attempt or what?
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>>182683354
Dark Sword has A/A scaling with Dark Infusion
Shit list
Kys
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>>182683645
Thanks for making them in the first place.
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>>182683691
>let him win
>uses point down over your corpse
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>>182683798
That was made before the elemental scaling buffs to be fair. I don't care for that list anyway since it doesn't take into account that despite scaling the best weapons to infuse are ones with high base damage and ideally scaling like Lothric Knight Sword.
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DaS3 was a pretty shitty note to go out on
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Do you consider aldia to be a boss?
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>>182684007
I want a souls type game thats not depressing ane has a happy end.

Every souls game is "world sucks now kill these guys then kill yourself"
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>>182683881
Then don't spread that bullshit
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>>182683691
no, just let him practice
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>>182684163
I didn't post that picture anon.
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>>182683683
Bradley is no joke, probably one of the best summons across all the games. He's also very polite and joyous, and was smart enough to wear one of the most fashionable sets.
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>>182682854
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>>182682369
SEEK SEEK LEST!
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>>182683820
no problem.

it's the only way I can justify posting on 4chan since otherwise every time you solve a problem/give advice the solution is deleted a few days later
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So for a Bow centric run in DaS1, which bow for which build puts out the most consistent damage and speed? Composite seems best for a quality build and has the highest base damage but its also the shortest range? Any merits to Black Bow, Shortbow or Longbow?
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>>182684221
beckoning before great heal
damn........
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>>182684018
He's more of a boss than Pinwheel, Bed of Chaos, Covetous Demon, Royal Rat Vanguard, Prowling Magus and Congregation, Shadows of Yharnam, Micolash, Rom, The One Reborn, Celestial Emissary, Living Failures, Deacons of the Deep, Wolnir, Oceiros and Ancient Wyvern ever were.
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Did anyone invade ENB?
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>>182684529
Black bow has the longest range and gets S scaling in dex.
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>>182684529
Black bow should give you the highest damage long-term and it can be obtained very early on (all you need is the master key and to kill the hydra) S dex scaling is pretty great.

Long term, dragonslayer greatbow is probably what you want to use, on 27/40.
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>>182684018
yeah he is a pretty fun fight shame he doesnt have a second phase or something
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Is there a CE table or something for DaS1 that lets me check the slider data for a character I've created?
I want to make a new one with the same face as a previous character, but can't get it right.
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>>182684161
You could play Zelda Breath of the Wild.
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>>182684828
Aldia is the 3rd phase, but it saves progress after each phase.
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Is ceaseless discharge supposed to get smarter in NG+? He won't come and put his hand near the fogdoor and just keeps spamming his fire wave.
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>>182684914
You're supposed to get him to spawn his hand first, and he only does that if he sees you taking the clothes off of his sister's corpse.
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>15 Petrified Dragon Bones to fully upgrade one weapon
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>>182684690
but how much does an S in DEX scaling mean in DaS1?

>>182684764
I don't know if I want to use greatbows, they're kinda slow
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>>182685065
>15 twinkling/titanite scale AND slab to upgrade one
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>>182684687
ENB was burning human effigies to prevent ebin hackers from breaking his gear / crashing his game.

One of the reason ENB stopped playing DS3 altogether was because a CE retard crashed his game when he was hosting FCs at the High Wall.

I have an axe to grind ENB's work ethics when it comes to DS3 but he was kinda being a bro by taking time to host FCs in a game he did not feel like playing so his audience could participate and have fun.
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>>182685112
You will have enough time to stop, lock on, and fire a greatbow with most bosses between their attacks. Only Artorias or O&S are aggressive enough that they will hit you before you can aim.

Being at a long range means you can ignore most of the boss's attacks. Most of their ranged attacks or lunges tend to be slow enough that you can hit with a greatarrow
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>>182684376
>Lower = Harder
I can imagine that many people dropped 2 because it was so shit, it's definetly not harder than BB.
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>>182682959
Thou must getteth your own lines, copycat bitch
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>>182682959
Only if you show me your pale long legs....
The memory of seeing them would be enough my lady.
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>>182682175
If you don't understand how bumps and bump limits work, you should not make threads. Especially if you're going to post such bland and uninspired OPs
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>>182685346
>be a "popular" streamer
>be surprised that some asshole decides to crash it
His own damn fault. You prepare for that shit ahead of time, either back up your save beforehand and don't summon the asshole when you restart the FC, or host on PS4 instead.
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>>182684540
Bradley cares more about my well-being than nearly every other phantom, and more than hosts care.
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Is this thing any good?
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>>182686856
It's one of the worst katanas in the game, so it's pretty decent.
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>>182686856
NOTHING
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>can beat fume knight and sir alonne in just a few tries
>can't kill more than one of the belfry gargoyles in ng+
Should I cave and upgrade a hammer?
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>>182687075
Only when fighting Alonne recently did I discover how he can move so quickly. Look at the floor, it's polished so well he can slide around like it's an ice rink, or he's wearing socks on a clean hardwood floor.
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I was bitching a lot in the last thread about getting raped by OaS all the time, just wanted to apologize for being whiny. I got them after a couple of more tries (after several tries where I nearly got them) so I'm all good now. Looking for forward to the next boss that will rape me for a couple of 20 tries not really
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Is there any way to configure the game to be in a language other than english if I got that version? I know the audio probably can't be changed, but can the subs/legends etc
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>>182687331
The only boss that's actually good bosses left are the DLC ones, the base game after O&S is basically easy/gimmick/plain fucking shit
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>>182687331
Nobody cares
Fuck off
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>>182685589
DS2's achievements are harder to obtain because of all the covenant specific miracles and sorceries, so yes, it is harder. Not necessarily harder combat, but harder completion.

I should re-make this for boss achievements only, though.

Hardest bosses in each game:
>DeS: Doran (13.1%)
>DS1: Gwyndolin, 28.1%
>DS2: Vendrick: 42% (no achievement for ancient dragon)
>SOTFS: Vendrick: 23% (no achievement for aldia or ancient dragon)
>DS3: Nameless king, 40%
>BB: Yharnam, 8.7%
>ACV: 3.1% (LLL) or 2.5% (Zodiac secret bosses)
>ACVD: 4.3% (LiV) or 4% (hard mode story)

weight that by completion percentage:

>DeS: 45.2%
>DS1: 65%
>DS2:: 84%
>SOTFS: 51.1%
>DS3: 74.1%
>BB: 21%
>ACV: 11.1%
>ACVD: 15.9%

For bosses-only, DS3 comes out the easiest, followed by DS2 if you average SOTFS with DS2 (I imagine some of the reason why DS2's vendrick completion is low is because of players just doing the DLC) with ACV, VD, and BB being the hardest in that order.
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trying to think of a regular enemy type that's fun to fight in dark souls 3 and i'm drawing a blank
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>>182687631
Giant crystal lizards.
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>>182687631
grave wardens
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>>182687631
lothric knight, knights of londor, cathedral knights.
i like knights.
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>watch a BB stream
>there's no such thing as summon signs, only passworded matchmaking that brings in up to two buttbuddies with no way of summoning a specific player
>the only way to invade is in one of two areas with pre-existing bell-ringing women, or when someone already has at least one allied phantom present, ensuring that outside of the nightmare areas the only way to invade is into gank squads
>and if they're smart they can just kill the bell-ringing woman to put a stop to invasions
>even duelfaggotry is needlessly convoluted since you have to be in opposing covenants for the small resonant bell to let you hurt each other
This is supposed to be Miyazaki's "masterpiece?" It looks like it's meant to be a PvE-only game from what I see.
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>>182687593
The boss achievement stats don't really surprise me. I'd imagine a chunk of people didn't even find Gwyndolin or the Darkmoons. Some might not have known to use the Giant Souls or even that Vendrick was a fight. Others might not have found Archdragon Peak between needing to clear out the Garden, find the gesture on the Drakeblood, and go back to Irithyll Dungeon. As for Queen Yharnam, not many people did dungeons extensively and probably gave up at Defiled Pthumeru, or couldn't get all the materials they needed; the Living String is a bit of a secret item, and can be an outright pain to get.
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>>182687920
You are 100% immune to invasions under a certain BL even.
The PvP always sucked anyway anon, go play a game with better PvP.
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>>182687920
Isnt DS1 Miyazaki's masterpiece?
A remake of ds1 would probably make it at least.
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>>182687036
CAN STOP
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>>182687593
>DS2's achievements are harder to obtain because of all the covenant specific miracles and sorceries, so yes, it is harder. Not necessarily harder combat, but harder completion.
Iunno man 1 has covenant specific miracles/pyromancies and you need to constantly abandon/join covenants in a system that actually punishes that to get all of them.
Miracles have Warrios of sunlight, Blades of the Darkmoon and Gravelords
Pyromancies have just chaos servants.
The upgrade path ones are also something that's mostly completionist bait, no real reason for a normal playthrough to get a max upgrade of any given upgrade tree, and it would arguably take like 4 playthroughs (1 int, 1 faith, 1 pyro, 1 normal) to get them on other builds, this isn't even getting into Knights Honor, which requires NG++
2 had it's share of covenant specific shit but its up to debate if it was worse than 1 in that regard
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>>182688137
>stop
It's NOTHING CAN DEFEND you ultra nigger
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>>182687920
who the fuck calls BB a "masterpiece"
it had the worst weapon improvement system and the worst pvp multiplayer out of any iteration of the formula
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>>182688137
The mountain?
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>>182687819
I really wanted to be able to use their pyromancy trick where they start breathing fire.
While we're at it, why can we throw little urns of Affinity/Pursuers like some of the skeletons in the Catacombs can?
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>>182686459
>or host on the ps4
Most of his viewers and regulars probably played on the pc.
Also muh 60 fps.

>>182684161
Demon's Souls and Bloodborne kinda have "happy endings". In DeS you can save the world and become a demigod and in BB you can stay as the master of the Dream and cuddle with the Doll forever.

>>182684687
I would've liked to invade legit and no hacker shit but alas, I only got Scholar on the PS4.
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>>182687920
I really don't get people bitching over invading into worlds with phantoms
>DeS- Host gets HP + phantoms for body form
>DaS- Host gets phantoms for being human
>DaS 2- Host gets HP and phantoms for being human, but its still possible to get invaded while hollow at a much much lower frequency
>DaS3 - Host gets HP and phantoms
>BB- Host gets phantoms

Let's be real here, the only reason you ever got solo invasions in 1 was because of some poor sucker who burned humanity to kindle and was therefore probably pretty shit at the game in the first place
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>>182687843
>knights of londor
??
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>>182687920
> It looks like it's meant to be a PvE-only game from what I see.

that's the point.

Miyazaki is dogshit at making pvp games and DS1's popularity for the invasions was completely unintentional.
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>>182687920
Hell fucking no!
For all it does in its glory of introducing a new setting/aesthetic for a souls gameplay formula. It takes so many steps backwards in terms of the gimmick online ever so present since demons souls, that's why for alll it's glorification of it being a damn good console game. It's the shittiest of the bunch in terms of longlevity and friendly combat (duels). Really killed my hype for it, realizing I have to rely on the fucking bbg or the mongols at the fucking subreddit to enjoy online.
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>>182688137
THE ROCK
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>>182688170
Most of DS1's achievements can be obtained without any online activity (I think only sunbros actually requires going online to get all covenant items unless you go deep into NG+) since humanity is offered for most of the items.

In DS1 though you have the red and blue arenas, which require having a huge number of arena wins and you can't get the items in other ways, or farm them. Plus sunlight medals are much harder to farm and you need 30 of them, not 10.
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>>182682175
Why are these Lazy Japs not including all that Gear into the Game that it's actually in the files?
You can acces them easily through CE so it can't be hard to include them to game through a Patch.
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>>182688584
BB is trying to be Shadow of the Collosus but won't stand on its own enough to be a purely pve game that people still play 5 years after its release.
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>>182688668
3rd nuke fucking when
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>>182688447
In BB invaders also deal with a penalty to their health.

>>182687920
Yeah, BB is the best for PvE in my opinion which is perfectly fine. I played many months of BB without even getting online because no PS+ and the prices for PS+ are really jewish.
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>>182688604
You can get Sunbro medals by farming Sunlight Maggots in the Lost Izalith shortcut, there's no need to go online at all.

And you need to enter at least NG+2 anyways to get three Sif souls for the all weapons achievement.
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>>182688252
nevereverposters
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>>182688668
Haven't you realized that only interns at Bandai Namco are running the game now? From already moved on to make their remake, new souls, new phantasy shit. Expect some random shit at the Tokyo game show
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>>182688252
I couldn't tell you who calls it that, I've never heard anyone call it that.
/bbg/ readily points out its faults, which is more than can be said for some here in regard to DaS 1
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Should I stick with my Dex/Luck/Bleed build or go hard Dex with Crow Quills?
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>>182688584
>it's the shittiest of the bunch for friendly combat(duels)
This post kind of highlights the differences in player mindsets. As a PvE centric player I never missed the lack of "duels" or "balanced pvp" in BB.
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>>182687920
>It looks like it's meant to be a PvE-only game from what I see.
the only well designed part of any of these games has been the PvE, so focusing on that portion is a good thing
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>>182688604
DS1 covenant items for achievements are'
>humanity for Chaos Servants
Easy as shit to farm
>Souvenirs or Reprisal
You literally get 1 per NG cycle, you need 10 for Darkmoon blade, you can grind them at a really low droprate from crows
>Sunlight medals
You need 25 faith to get in/online coop, you need 10 medals and Gwyns Soul to get all of it, 2 NG cycles if you get all of them per cycle
>10 eyes of death
Semi easy to farm and you get 9 per NG cycle from exploring around

DS2 has
>sunlight medals
Which you can grind off of PvE enemies at a fairly low droprate
>Bellkeeper level 2
Which you can grind in offline mode via Mad Warrior

Basically the only real issue with 2 is Hidden Weapon as without online that takes around 1-3 hours to get depending on how the mad warrior feels about spawning.
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>>182689168
Nah most of /dsg/ over the course of this year has shat on 1 heavily. Whenever you see that Havel chainmail poster come in here to show off more backstabs and great club baiting, he's immeddiately ridiculed. Same for other posts regarding bosses or movement speed, along with hating on after lordvseel areas being trash. Only Luci defends fucking 1 to high heaven, everyone has shat on 2 and everyone continues to enjoy 3 but readily shit on and or point out 3s massive disappointments
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>>182689513
He defends it because it houses his waifu. Priscilla is entry-level, fight me.
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>>182686213
Who are you?
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>>182689513
>pvp is all there is to ds1
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>>182689785
It doesn't matter who I am, what matters is my plan.
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>>182689413
There's also Brotherhood of Blood for GCFO in DaS2, which is required for the pyromancy achievement. That and grinding for Sunbro medals for Sunlight Spear are the hardest to obtain achievements.
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>>182688914
getting all covenant items in DS1 requires:
>60 humanity
>21 covenant items that must be farmed or can be obtained by beating invaders/bosses


In DS2:
>30 sunlight medals (ABSURDLY low drop rate offline)
>115 items that need to be farmed or can be obtained by beating invaders/bosses (50 awestones, 30 medals, 35 rat tails)
>beat NG++ (or 500 arena wins in both arenas)
>defeat 100 hosts (or the Mad Warrior 100 times) in bell keeper covenant
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who would even fuck a dragon honestly

this lore makes no sense
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>ENB starts playing a Souls game finally
>it's not BB or DS3 DLC2
>it's fucking Scholar of the First Sin
>he plays in 2 hour segments and took 4 hours in total to kill The Last Giant and Dragonrider
>Scholar is like 150 hours easily as he has forgotten everything and Scholar mixes a lot of shit around
>it's probably going to be roughly 75 streams until he finishes Scholar

At least he's not doing yet another DS1 playthrough I guess. And I guess I shouldn't complain since if he does 2's DLCs that will be brand new shit for him.
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>>182689798
>let me ignore the bottom part of the post mentioning lordvessel areas heavily criticized,
>movement being bad, shitty bosses in the base game
You get the point anyway, I could go on with others opinions on farming being bad and or the weapon variety in the long run being ok at best.
But I'm not goin to sit here and sift through archives to show more, I'm just to tired
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>>182689943
If I made a new thread, would you die?
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>>182689413
Grinding 30 medals in DS2 takes 100+ hours

you're also forgetting rat tails and awestones, which also have be farmed.
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>>182690000
Don't forget about Pilgrims, needing to go through those three shitholes for a few hexes and a lackluster Xanthous Set.
And nice quads
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>>182690075

kys enbfag
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>>182690075
Couldn't he be faster jeez. 75 streams for one go on Scholar? Is that how twitch people make money?
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>>182690075
You should really get your shit together and finally kill yourself
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>>182690075
I tried watching him and oh my god is he boring, he took like 15 minutes just stopping in Majula to debate the concept of Soul Memory with chat and responding to every idiot there. Do people find this guy entertaining?
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>>182689994
Nah, both the miracles and pyromancies can be bought from Welliger, you need NG++, but no online needed.
Again you only NEED sunlight medals, which you can grind off of PvE enemies and bellkeepers have invader red phantoms that have increased spawns in offline mode.

>>182690162
Hyperbole serves nobody, we are not discussing which game is better or worse, we are discussing how you get covenant items.

>>182690251
Pilgrims is a mostly PvE covenant, I hardly see the point here.
Awestones are needed for exactly 0 achievements
Rat tails are needed for exactly 0 achievements
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>>182686213
Get off your high horse. It's better that the new thread is made a few posts early than everybody either forgetting to make the thread before the old one 404s or Luci makes it and people will protest bevause boohoo a tripfag did it.
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>>182690075
fuck off
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>>182690572
People "protest" lucis threads because they literally don't see them as his filtered by most sane people
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>>182690572
>It's better that the new thread is made a few posts early than everybody either forgetting to make the thread before the old one 404s or Luci makes it and people will protest bevause boohoo a tripfag did it.
fucking wrong, we've had our threads deleted in the past because some fucko like yourself made the new thread too early
also, for all the shit we give luci he STILL doesn't make new threads early
learn the fucking rules, newfag
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>>182690662
The thread isn't filtered if it's created by him. The problem is more that he uses Priscilla images and spams his shitty WebMs every time.

I'd honestly rather take a Luci-created thread than one that fucks with the OP to promote the Discord.
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>>182690146
It would be extremely painful
>>182690140
I ignored the rest because the rest was baseless.
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>>182690662
I don't like them because it's Priscilla in the OP every single time. A little originality never hurt anyone.
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>>182690572
>implying a discordfag making a new one is any better
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>>182690328
>>182690331

Unfortunately I am unable to fulfill that request.

>>182690330
>is this how Twitch people make money?
I would not be the least bit surprised if he decided to do Scholar stream for the money while not "selling out" in regards to Ringed City. He's been mentioning on Twitter that his ex-wife racked up a lot of debt for him so he might be forced to play Souls to increase the money flow while he works on his own game. He effectively doubled his viewer count from his usual non-Souls stuff with the exception of P5.

>>182690442
His pre-recorded shit is muuuuuuchhhh better but stream enb can be very chill as well when he forgets the chat and just does his own thing.
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>>182691124
You're a big fag.
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>>182691053
>newfag
Been here since 2013 but whatever. And the thread being deleted by it being made 5 posts early was the hotpockets' wrongdoing.
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>>182691330
For the threads on the last page
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>>182691217
>No, this can't be happening, I'm in charge here!-said the autist
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>>182691245
I start to believe you are actually this piece of shit.
How can someone suck the dick of a other person so hard while you dont even know him.
Pathetic sub human
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>>182690000
Go ahead and try farming some Souvenirs off of crows, it's unironically faster to just rush the game, beat NG+5 and get 10 by killing lautrec + trading the pendant than it is trying to farm those things, the droprates are so fucking bad. Or you can do what a sane person does and just CE them in, that's a major advantage 1 has over 2, CEing shit is 100% safe.

2 has no Knights Honor/All Rings/All Armors, awestones aren't needed for any achievements and you can farm them off of Rhoy in the rat area for 12 per ascetic used. Rat tails are also not needed for any achievements and you get 1 for beating both of the rat bosses. Sure it takes fucking 33 ascetic to get that far, but again you don't need them for anything
Sunlight medals are a right ass but very much farmable, a lot of the issues with that comes down to item drop calculations being retarded as fuck and all the wikis disagreeing on what to wear if you want to farm.
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>>182691245
get the "enbs child" treatment
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>tfw
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Any cool weapons to use at 25 dex 50 faith in SotFS? Been using lightening infused Heide's spear, but I want to try out some more stuff.
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>>182691620
Don't be angry.

>>182691778
I don't follow.
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I miss the tracking on the RKPGS. I'd gladly take the lowered damage like how it was when they first nerfed it and then reverted bit for no reason.
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Which game has the best looking Xanthous headpiece?
>DeS Old Monk Tornado
>DS1 Super Tumor
>DS2 AIDS Beehive
>DS3 Rotten Mushroom

I unironically like both the Xanthous Crown and Overcoat in DS3
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>>182692183
>just 2 phantoms
>in the place with the highest twinking potential
he'll be fine
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>>182692367
Giant Warrior Club smash shit for free one hit kills, Sanctum Shield/Chime Shield are hilariously strong on PvP, or literally anything off of this list
http://darksouls.wikia.com/wiki/Lightning_(Dark_Souls_II)
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>>182692743
Bloodborne's Mensis miniature cuckcage
But out of the ones mentioned I think DS3's looked the most convincing
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>>182692743
The beehive is the most elegant, but completely misses the point of it: being fucking retarded looking. des>das>ds3>ds2 in that aspect
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is the anon who was trying to make a skeleton still around? I wanna see the outcome of it
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>>182693078
I have a character which looks like a perfect Skelton and even recieved some messages from people who liked it
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>>182693347
please post pics
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>>182693347
can you post it? I wanna do a skellinton pyromancer
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>>182692819
Even though I didn't engage, he wasn't.
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>>182692743
>super tumor

You mean the bloated heads from the DLC?
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>>182692743
DS3 looks the best imo
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How much invisible are you under hidden body to another player?
Everytime I use it In PvP I'm spotted right away
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>>182692743
The Set without the Crown looks best in 3, but I need to agree with >>182692974 that it needs to look as absurd as possible.
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>>182693869
it doesn't last long enough now, however if you pair it with untrue white ring, you'll look like one of those random phantoms that spawn through the area
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>>182693869
As much as you can see yourself. Maybe if you're in a dark place, wear all black and don't move someone might not spot you, but don't expect it to work like in pvp
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>>182693869
Honestly, you are probably off better just using the untrue dark ring and curling up in a corner
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>>182693869
Do >>182694085 this.
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Where the hell is Benhart? He completely disappeared after we killed Nashandra. I NEED HIS FUCKING ARMOR WHY IS THE GAME KEKING ME NOW
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>>182694549
lmao it should have kept going, you fell for it didn't ya?
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>>182694806
He isn't in Memory of Orro?
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>>182695018
Yeah honestly if he hadn't turned when he did I don't think I'd have noticed.
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>>182695031
Yeah, found him. Thanks.

Anybody able to drop a pure non-murderous 8.8k SM anon Targray's head gear on PC?
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>>182694806
enter the giant after persuer
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am i sugoi, /dsg/?

what are some legit armour combos to get that high medieval look going?
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>>182695729
>that stat spread
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>>182695806
gotta cast em all senpai
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>kinda want to get the loyce knight armor set
>realize its 2017
see me in a few decades guys
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>>182695729
Only dark sorceries cap at 45/45 and all you have is black flame which is a pyro, also get witch ring if you're gonna use only one pyro ring.
What's knight ring for? Why 2 heals?
I am deeply confused and concerned and definetly too sleepy for this shit
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>>182696356
eh
laziness
meming in duel arena
its not a real build, its just my dick about with magic and a little melee char
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>>182696226
Collectors edition, all you need is 2 souls, then just move those between your inventory and the item box while scanning for 2/1 until you just get 2 results, then edit the correct one to 50, 100% safe
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this blue ear shit is making me so mad. i just need a damage type buff other than lightning. i didnt get yuria this playthrough so i guess im just going to wait till ng+? considering deleting my character desu
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>>182697265
just resin it desu
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i dont think ill ever beat dancer. theres no way to get out of reach and if you try to roll you're getting hit anyways.
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>do no-lvl-restriction, get-evrything character
>after quality, start lvling int and faith
>end up casting down niggas rather than meeleing them even at 30/30 with crystal chime, 2rings and crown

i'm still ~3shotting the more troublesome enemies, can kill BS traps from range, can heal 4xtimes the normal estus from an ashen estus, and still have leftovers to plink at anything more tough or even magic resisting from the comfort of an another continent while they try to get to me. And still have the option to just bash their shit in if they get close.

The scary thing is, all you really only need 40/40 int/faith to do this since theres good weapons for that, and the rest is luxury.
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>>182698374
Hug that ass, that's how you win
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>>182698374
https://youtu.be/8ZQZMB_OHAM
Mute or ignore the commentary, and observe how he rolls anon. Nothing is impossible anon, you'll get her
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>enemies with unique armor sets and weapons have their drop tables polluted with stupid shit like embers, titanite shards and firebombs
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>>182698374
Have you tried hitting it with a sword rather than trying to dance around it?
That bitch attacks so rarely and so widely that you can pitch camp, have a stew, maybe read a book or two between the times you might have to actually dodge.
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>>182698374
Circle around her, roll towards her ass.
You can also use the pillars for cover, since she's not good at maneuvering around them. She can still hit through them though.
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Just made a low-level pyro build. SL30 with 20/20, 14 attunement plus darkmoon ring for 4 slots and the rest in vigor plus prisoner's chain for about 900 health. Other two rings are Witch Ring and Sage Ring for obvious reasons.

For gear I use the parting flame for that BF-BF true combo, not meeting the strength requirement doesn't seem to actually matter unless I hit my opponent's shield during the casting animation. Dragonhead shield plus chaos longsword for the nice combo.

Now I'm wondering what I should be doing with my remaining 3 slots. GCFO is good of course, and I need to get better at free-aiming it anyway. I'd like to use Seething Chaos but Road of Sacrifice and Farron Keep aren't very good areas to use it in, too open. So, what spells would be good to choose?
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>If you enter yhorms arena with a gold phantom with you, siegward doesnt show up, despite having freed him from his cell
There goes my spare onion armor
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>>182698875
Vestiges.
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>>182698374
Whiny piece of shit, get your attention elsewhere.

>>182698630
*Cringe*
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>>182698924
what did miyazaki mean by this
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>>182698661
It is a bad feel man.
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>>182699056
Vestiges and GCFO both take two slots. He doesn't have room for both.
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>>182699056
Won't it benefit me more to git gud with GCFO free-aiming though? I know that Vestiges is good, I've used it before, but I thought that the consensus was that GCFO is superior if you know how to use it.
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>>182698374
got her. i just needed to believe.
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just deleted my character cuz of that ear shit. such bad design holy shit im mad
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>>182699520
Wow what a faggot you are.
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>just lost over a hundred thousand souls in DaS2
And deleted
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>>182699520
Haha git gud shitter and fuck you
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>>182699663
In the garbage where it belongs,
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>>182699263
>>182699303
Vestiges is better for PVP because of how good it is for groups and fleeing/healing targets. Also does more than GCFO if you exclude the secondary lava damage, which is easily avoided.
Pretty sure the projectile is faster and flies straighter too.

GCFO has better range when free aimed though, I think. And lower FP cost.
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Black Knight Greatsword
Yea or Nay?
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>>182699520
im not gay
>>182699691
im not grinding the same enemies for hours on end just for a microscopic chance to get 1 out of 30 ears. not even MMOs are this bad.
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What
there was a bonfire like 20 seconds ago
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>>182700118
THAT'S WHAT YOU GET FOR PLAYING ROLL SOULS 3
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>>182700276
>get Bonfire at Dragonslayer Armor
>walk for a few seconds
>get the Grand Archives Bonfire
Has anyone ever warped between the two on purpose? I'm sure someone has.
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>>182700118
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>>182700679
Fuck off discordfag
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>>182700276
But he is playing Shit Souls 2
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>>182690442
>Do people find this guy entertaining?
He is pretty entertaining and insightful when he doesn't get super whiny and instantly jump into baseless assumptions about a game he's playing for the first time. I would recommend him him a watch.

I would be careful about talking about the Ringed City in his streams though because he warned on twitter that he might start banning people who ask about that too much.
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>>182700276
Did you even look at his screenshot retard?
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>>182700825
Are the tits an illusion? Some kind of sorcery?
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>>182699923
Thank you, I'll try that then and see how it goes. What'd be good for my final slot?
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>>182700808
>>182700982
>Implying Dark Souls 2 isn't a perfect game completely devoid of any flaws, especially the flaws most commonly leveled against the other games in the series
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>>182690075
enb can't even finished playthroughs of games he loves he has no chance of finishing scholar
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>>182701146
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>>182701112
It actually wouldn't surprise me if they were, just to lure more victims
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>actually got invaded in DaS2
>as I was sliding off a cliff
Ain't life some shit
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>>182700679
?
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what's a good, balanced weapon in das3? preferrably buffable
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>>182701131
Black flame.
I'm not sure if Flame Fan applies the kick effect to shields, but it might be worth using if it does. Lots of people at low levels tend to use Medium/Small shields without great stability and no endurance.
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>>182701570
Splitleaf Greatsword
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>>182701319
If they were designed recently they would have to be THICC
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>>182701619
War Banner Straight Sword.
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>>182701839
Oh, that's a good one
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>>182701227
Claims to love.
He's finished DS1 a million times.
He never finished DeS on cam which he claims was his favorite Souls.
He never did Old Hunters DLC of BB on cam and he claims he loves that game too.
He finished DS2 on cam and that was his least favorite game.
He finished DS3 on cam and that is his second least favorite Souls game.

I think he will finish Scholar, at least the base game and one DLC. It will take him the rest of the year in streams but by god he will do it. It will also be a financial boost to him since even DS2 got him over 1000 viewers when usually he struggles to get like 500 viewers.
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>>182702116
I wonder why he aborted all those BB runs.
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knight chest armor + lothrics leg armor what do we think boys
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>>182702116
>there are people who actually give a shit about the opinion of these pathetic people
ABORT THE THREAD
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>>182702634
*lorian's leg armor
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>>182702679
There's a whole community that does. I'll never fucking understand it. I'll never understand why people get so fucking obsessed with the "lore" of these games, either.
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Played a lot of DS1, but never beat it.
I was going for a faith build but I don't wanna get 50 fucking faith just to throw good lighting.

Anything. Strength, Int, specific weapons. I wanna have a go. Though I am feeling kind of halberd-y. Thanks, OneyPlays.
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>>182682175
Do you guys like Ed Sheeran?
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>>182684161
That's the point you blithering retard
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>>182702909
It's because some people are originally used to the lore of a game being handed to them, explained, annotated, all in one package. When you get something like this series that's vague in the lore sense, people can become desperate to find out the truth in that sense. This is why people like Vaati became so popular, because they could sprout their own opinions, or the opinions of others, twist them to fit into the game, and have people accept it as plausible theories, while some accept it as hard fact.
The lore, or rather "lore" is like a strangely written piece of literature, Vaati is just a guy who gave his own interpretation and people latched onto him like remora on a shark.
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If From doesnt realease a new game with the exact invasion mechanics and combat like in 3 in the next 3 years I will be VERY MAD
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>>182702568
The answer is within you.
Yeah, he can't play BB due to "personal issues". A terrible shame, it makes my head shake uncontrollably. I would've loved to get his take on the Old Hunters lore byt I guess his personal traumas will prevent him from enjoying a great game.
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>>182703459
Kys
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>>182703397
>like in 3
>wanting the worst invasions in another game
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>>182703534
>Ds1: Unlimited Invasions levelwise
>Dark "Souls" 2: Crime against Humanity Memory and no proper Red Eye
Fuck off
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>>182703807
>infinite rolls, unpunishable estus, gank priority, weapon memory
DaS3 is shit you fuck off
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>crystal/sharp flamberge
God damn this thing is ribbed for my pleasure. One handing a weapon never felt so good.
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>>182703397
How could you have such shit taste that you actually dark souls 3 invasions?
demon's souls with estus flask would be the perfect souls game for invasions.
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anyone tried farron flashsword + man-grub staff with their luck build? the range for stunning opponents, then following up with strikes from anri's straight sword isn't the only thing that's so good about it because it seems to add to a different jump-sequence rather than rolling when you dash and swing the staff. sometimes, opponents can't even tough me due to the range of the flashsword coming out of the tip of the staff
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>>182703983
>Rolls
Git gud
>Unpunishable Estus
It's a fast paced game, learn how to pressure and git gud
>Gank priority
You only really encounter Ganks at Aldrich
Otherwise use the level and git gud
>Weapon Memory
Literally what?
Best mechanic in all games

Diagnosis: Didnt play the game, buttblasted DS2 babby

Solution: Suicide
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Any suggestions for rings on a stealthy dex/int character? I'm currently using
>Life Ring
>Slumbering Dragoncrest
>Lingering Dragoncrest
>Sage's Ring
Of the four, I'm only really set on the dragoncrests- not sure how useful the sage's ring is when I'm only using magic weapon and hidden body (which are working for me right now since I'm more focused on pve than pvp), and life ring is useful but I'm sure I can part with it if there's something better.
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>>182704283
>that you actually Ds3 invasions
Hmmmm yes nice sentence
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>>182704435
Try using Spook frequently, that would let you switch the Slumbering Dragoncrest, and would essentially add the Cat Ring
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>>182704426
Most reddit post to ever have been posted in /dsg/ holy shit.
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>>182703534
As shit as watching some coordinated gank chew through a level can be, at least the invasion system provides a bit of challenge. In 2 I could just invade and kill the host 99% of the time in less than a minute, providing they didn't Alt f4 straight away.
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>>182704426
>>>r/gaming
>>>/out/
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>>182704686
I've got the spell and it's something to consider, but at the moment I don't have a lot of FP and GMW and Hidden Body already eat up a fair share of focus on their own. Maybe if I decide to boost my ATT or I decide I'm good enough to reallocate more estus.
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>>182704697
>Muh Reddit
Nice argument
Seek help you deluded manchildren
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>>182704913
>calling people manchildren
Yep, it's reddit.
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>>182704871
If you have Hidden Body, you can't go wrong with the White Ring trick. I'd say you portray yourself as a ghost like that enough that no one really notices you, or pays much attention. When you're in a good position to hit the host, switch to the Hornet Ring or whatever, and ruin their day.
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>>182703807
DS1 invading infinitely upwards was fine because nobody actually competent at PvP levels much past meta level. If you invade someone 400+ they're going to be shit.
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>SL 25
>invaded in crux woods
>wave and curl up
>invader is a bro and doesn't attack immediately
>point to Hodrick sign location
>lead invader there
>we both start fighting Hodrick

Worth it.
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>>182705023
It's really funny and sad at the same time how you losers see this page as your little secret outcast club
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>>182704321
I like how you said that but didn't even hit with the spell
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>>182704426
>>182704913
>>182705249
Shitposting is against the rules, fuck off you underaged faggot
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Is the Frayed Blade better on 40/40 or 80 DEX?
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how did siegmeyer and sieglinde reach ash lake if the illusory walls were still up when I got to the great hollow
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>>182705428
80 dex you nigger
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>>182704426
>weapon memory prevents people from being too strong
>but only if you're invading
>otherwise you just get """"""downscaled""""""
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>>182705615
Maybe when you take down an illusory wall, it's only down for you and still up for others.
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>>182705428
It's like a couple points of AR better on 80 Dex, it doesn't really matter one or the other.
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>>182704435
I used something like this on my INT/DEX build in PVE before I changed to a Heysel Pick build for PVP.
Basically use the rapier for ripostes/backstabs and use the Estoc with CMW for DPS or when crit damage isn't an option.
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>>182705912
Probably if there is an illusionary enchantment on that area, it affects everyone. When you tear down the illusion, it's simply your character overcoming the effects of the spell, and when someone else comes along they still get affected by the illusion
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Today, I will remind them.
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>>182702568
I see what you did there
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>>182706549
/v/ is so fucking awful
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>>182706549
What a sad thing it is, to see hope crushed in such a manner
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hope enb actually gets really into das2 and we get some comfy dark days 2 playthroughs
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>>182705353
yeah, true
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>>182707164
I might actually watch his streams now because I've never seen SoTFS and I probably will never play that version of the game myself. I'm kind of curious about what they changed even though I'm not a fan of ds2
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What is better for the executioner sword, 60/40 str/dex or 80/20?
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>>182706549
I remember that. Good times.
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>>182707792
2 hand with 66/13+
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>>182705615
Does nobody remember anything Solaire says besides the memes? All of the NPC's have their own worlds that only overlap with yours sometimes.
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>>182708552
You mean to say that TIME IS CONVOLUTED IN LORDRAN
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For me, DSP has the superior SoFTS playthrough
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>fighting sinh
>fume ultra memesword at risk!
>fume ultra danksword broken!
>blue knight halberd at risk!
>blue knight halberd breaks just as I kill him
???????
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>>182709036
For me it is the McChicken
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I got invaded by an invisible player, was it a hacker or just a glitch?
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>>182709263
His skin is corrosive. You'll want to use a broken Santier's Spear for the fight.
>having the Blue Knight Halberd
Why did you have to go kill Targray like that? Are you the anon asking for his helm?
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>>182709408
Probably a chinaman using dialup. I've had it happen before, an invisible blue with a chinese name who somehow managed to get killed anyway.
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>>182709263

Stop playing at 60 fps.
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>>182699663
>hundred thousand

You can make 5x that by killing giant lord in 2-3 minutes
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>you can stagger burnt ivory knights trivializing the whole first phase
I never knew this
Do you need stone ring to do it?
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>Invade
>It's another invincible hacker host with WoB equipped
I wish I could take comfort in knowing these fuckers would be banned, but they won't.
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I just discovered that a Refined Corvian Greatknife on 40/40 has more AR than both Heavy on 66 STR and Sharp on 80 DEX. I still can't get over it.

Are there more weapons like this? I thought Refined was just straight inferior on everything.
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>>182701112
They are in 3.
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>>182710553
You sure they're invincible and it's not just the netcode? When i'm hosting apparently i'm spazzing out every once awhile.
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>>182711304
Sup newfag
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What was Priscilla's prototype role in Dark Souls?
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>>182705428
You get around 1 AR per level of Dex, which is shit. But I'm pretty sure you get equal to or less than that with the Str scaling too.
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I'm loving the youtuber circle jerk. Keep it up, fellas
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>>182711807
Originally a firekeepr. She was meant to be at either the shrine or painted world would be the nexus/Hunters dream(demon souls, thing). She would let you touch her soul to level up, but Miyazaki and the team scrapped it for the level up at bonfires idea. That was last minute obviously since every other iteration of Souls ignores it in favor of a fair lady giving you strength.
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>>182711807
Priscilla was the original fire keeper concept. They abandoned it, along with Andre being Gwyn's son and Tarkus being a firelink NPC.
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>>182711672
Nope. Usuaully people doing it aren't very subtle and will just stay still, gesturing or dropping stuff while you try to hit them.
In one instance there was a guy doing it with Chameleon. I rolled through every object around it, slashed at him a dozen or so times and my weapon just passed straight through.
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>>182712065
Honestly, I kind of wish that SotFS had added some sort of dead baby thing just to see the resulting hilarity.

Seriously though, fuck e-celebs and fuck the people who care what they think.
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Was the DS2 new enemy placement a good change or bad change?
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>>182712454
Mostly good. One or two bad, but overall much better.
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>>182712454
It's only really bad in the Iron Keep, everywhere else seems good or at least okay
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>>182712181
Was she always supposed to be lord sized?
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Rate h8 my dex hexer.
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>>182712647
Considering she has a siting animation even in her lord size. I'd assume yeah
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>>182712674
>133
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>>182712674
Ignoring the SL

>Flamberge

For what purpose?
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>>182705428
2H:
>40 dex first
>Then 27 strength
>Then 99 dex
>Then 99 strength

1H:
>80 dex
>then 40 strength
>then 99 dex
>then 99 strength
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>>182712454
Wonder why they didn't apply that to the original DS2.. maybe fans would be pissed at the sudden changes?
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>>182712792
>>182712734
No idea why you guys are always so pissy about soul level. As for the Flamberge, why not? It's one of the best dex scaling greatswords.
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>>182712195
What are other prototype concepts that didn't make it into the Souls games?
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>>182712674
>all that wasted Vit
>no FaP+3
>45 Int caster
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>Drakeblood set weighs less than drangelic set
Jesus christ whats drangelic made out of?
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>>182712792
Not him, but flamberge has extremely good AR for a dex greatsword, since the sharp infusion buffs.

It's got the highest infusable greatsword AR at 26/40 AND native bleed, which can be buffed with rouge.

The only reason people don't use it is because it's largely outclassed by non-buffable greatswords like Black Knight or Hollowslayer for damage.
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>>182712792
flamberge looks dope
what other reason do you need
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>>182713103
There's also the matter of getting it to drop from the Thralls
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>>182713086
>a heavy armor set with more overall defenses and poise weighs more than a medium armor set
Gee, who'd have fucking thunk?
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>>182713084
You're right, there is a total of one point wasted in Vit. I could easily switch to the FAP+3 from the Obscuring ring when I'm not invading.

>45 int
The Murky Longstaff is designed to be used at 45 Int. It's perfectly viable.
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>>182713407
Have you tested it? Try testing to see what the damage difference is between 40/40 Izalith, 45 Int Murky and 60 Int Murky, and post results.
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>>182713502
Sure thing. Here you go senpai.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Dp7ewkzIsQv8p-zaE33fxyeTc0DJoXaOFmBdCVbbkDM/edit#gid=0
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>>182713407
>The Murky Longstaff is designed to be used at 45 Int. It's perfectly viable.
Not as much as you think. It having diminishing returns after 45 doesn't mean that at 45 it's doing damage comparable to, say, Izalith at 40/40 or Court Sorcerer at 60.

If you want to use the Longstaff with 45 Int you're better off using it a a lower-ish level.
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Why are all of the Ds3 Ultragreatswords so shitbad?
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>>182712603
Whoever was over Iron Keep's design must have had a bad day.
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>>182713665
According to this
>>182713646
The difference in damage on a GSD using the Murky Longstaff between 45 and 60 INT is a whopping 20 damage. On a spell that does 1000 damage. And that's WITH all the damage boosting items.
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>>182713646
Being that reliant on the weapon art is a bit of a hindrance. Why do you think people go for the Court Sorcerer's instead of the Crystal staff?
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>>182713761
1v1 me, I use one, let me show u how shitbad it is.
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>>182706549
poor guys
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>>182713761
They're literally just "Attack me and I will stun you for all your health: the weapon"
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>>182713761
t.dex user or sale kiddie
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>>182713761
Is there something wrong with outdamaging, outranging and outhyperarmoring everything else? They only lose to daggers and more poise
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Im sl60 +6 trying to get some invades as a darkmoon, I've been sitting at the water reserve bonfire for about 15 minutes now with nothing to show for it. I was thinking sl60 +6 might let me get in on some aldrich invades, but it seems I was wrong.

If I level to 120 +9 will it be faster or slower? Id like to at least get SOME invades to cut down on the amount of time I have to spend farming silver knights. Im thinking at PvP meta I might be able to invade into some pontiff FCs, but I dont know.
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>>182711807
She was the original level up waifu

>>182712195
I thought Andre was originally the 'Unnamed blacksmith god' mentioned in the Demon Titanite description?
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>gwyndolin will never sit on your face
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>>182714353
Can't be since he died long ago. Maybe it was Vamos.
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>>182714371
>dsg will never be free of you and the others like you
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>>182713875
Maybe, but I'll take that penalty since it gives me 25 points to spend elsewhere. Since I have 50 DEX I dont need the sages ring, which is good because apparently according to this guy >>182713084 my build is shit without the FAP ring.
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>>182714371
does he even have an ass or is it just more snakes
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>>182713074
There's an entire questline associated with Beatrice the Witch where you were supposed to help her, including as a kid.

Velka was originally going to have her own covenant.

The Curse status and it's relation to new londo was going to be a more integrated mechanic. There's a few unused rings that apply new londo related effects. I think those were supposed to be used instead of transient curse. New londo was also not supposed to be accessible at the start of the game and supposed to require a late game key to unlock. There's also a hidden boss in new londo (Jar Eel) that would be part of the New Londo storyline. 4 Kings were supposed to drop a soul for weapon conversion.

There were originally 5 lord souls, not 4. Possibly the hidden boss of new londo would be the fifth, I dunno.

Bed of Chaos was originally a full, giant moving boss, probably turned into a weakpoint boss due to the animations looking dumb.

There was supposed to be more to Quelaag and the chaos servant covenant, involving infecting other players. Quelaag was supposed to have dialogue (unused in the game) that implies she would have a similar covenant like the darkmoons as an optional boss behind the chaos servant covenant.

There was supposed to be a second bridge dragon, in anor londo, blue like in demon souls.

There was a character arc regarding Shiva of the East where he was seeking the Chaos Blade, and was supposed to betray the player and abandon the forest covenant in the painted world to obtain it. This is actually still in-game but the black eye orb doesn't work for it.

Gwynevere was originally supposed to have some relation to the dragons.

Blacksmiths were supposed to play a much more important role, with Andre being gwyn's son and the guy who helps you to the kiln of the first flame, and Vamos being a character that fights alongside the player.

Alongside new londo, Lost Izalith was supposed to be completely different, as was
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>>182714304
You're at least 30 levels and 4 upgrade levels too high for Dorkmoon activity, friend. Should have done your Blue Sentinels shit before beating Abyss Watchers.
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>>182690052
Me! Let's post dragon sisters to celebrate! I could really blow off some steam.., if you know what I mean.
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>>182714304
stay at that level. And just hang out where ever the most activity is. You can get summoned down all the way to farron. Although I would have stayed at 50

Dark moon summoning is just really slow. Expect no more than 4 an hour tops.
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>>182714640
Is that true though? Because I was at sl30 +3 for a while farming the wolf covenant, and Id periodically put on darkmoon to try for some blue invades and I got nothing.

I think Im just stuck on the dead server or whatever the deal is. I would just family share but I want all achievements on my actual steam account.
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WHERE IS THAT GUY WITH THE SKELETON
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>>182714371
>>182714532
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>>182682175
Redpill me on bloodborn
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>>182715231
its pretty good. different, but good. not as much replayability as the souls games.
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>>182715181
>ywn feel his smooth, pale ladyboy legs wrap around your head
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>>182715231
Very good. God tier atmosphere and visual style. Poor enemy variety. Horrible pvp mechanics. Worth playing at least once.
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>>182714596
>as was

anon, are you okay? I'm worried about you.
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>>182714596
>>182713074
Ingward had a questline surrounding new londo's optional boss.

Petrus was supposed to be an optional NPC brought to firelink, instead of automatically showing up.

Crestfallen's transitioning into hollowing was supposed to be much slower, more like Lucatiel, with dialogue where he rambles away.

Altar of Sunlight was originally supposed to be an anor londo covenant, and Solaire had a questline

There was originally some luck stat (or related) like in DeS.

Oscar and Frampt were buddies and he was supposed to guide you along with Andre, all being from Astora. He was supposed to take over what became Solaire's role a bit, and will betray you by taking the opposite serpent that you do.

Frampt originally sold humanity.

Tarkus was a firelink NPC, implying some questline that went missing.

Painting World was the original hub world, Priscilla was the original fire keeper, with firelink serving a role closer to the Kiln of the First Flame
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>>182715231
Demon Souls 2015 using DS3's game engine.
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>>182714990
I'm not giving my perfect sliders to you guys, took 1 hour to figure that shit out
But its really fucking good
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>>182706549
>too western design
>when the jap devs were trying to imitate europe design.
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How many points in adaptability do I need to make DS2 not feel like shit?
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Doing a Louis Armstrong cosplay in DS2.

What would be better assuming I'm at 99 dex and str, caestus or bone fist? Never used either before.
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>>182705424
Deliver arguments DS2 babby

>>182705907
Still better than the mechanic in 1 and 2
If you can't beat a downscaled Phantom then git gud kiddo
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>>182715994
Both, son. Powerstance those motherjammers
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>>182716036
Fuck off lucifer
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Who dis.
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>>182715831
then show us how it looks, you nerd
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>>182716170
thats a tree
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>>182715895
Well the stat you actually want to be looking at is agility, which is also effected by attunement.
I give myself at least 99, there's a chart somewhere that compares roll iframes.
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>>182716218
Suck my Dick :)
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Is the "official" DaS3 level cap at 120 or 125?
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>>182715994
Mundane bone fist with 40 in all stats.

Or Vanquisher's Seal.

Both require RobFlynn and maybe even sacred oath.

Mundane caestus isn't bad if you want to spread your stats out more.
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>>182716348
120
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>>182716348
Either is official depending on how many points you need on your build.
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>>182715895
70% equip load and 10 ADP is equal to DS1 fatrolls
50% equip load and 20 ADP is equal to DS1 midrolls.
<30% equip load and 32 ADP is equal to DS1 fast rolls

DS2 feels bad because people pump ADP but they stay at 70% equip load like idiots, so they have super short rolls that still get roll caught.
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>>182716348
120-133. The higher your level is in this range the more people will make fun of you.
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Do you think Castlevania, especially II: Simon's Quest, was the original Souls game?

Basically interconnected open world, direction is very sparse given to you in small blurbs of conversation from NPCs. Weapon upgrades, limited item uses, spacing is very import in combat, Jumps have recovery, attacks have start-up.
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>>182716127
>Everyone disliking Dark Souls 2 is Lucifer
Hmmm yes very good reasoning you have there, I bet you are a very succesful person
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>>182716348
120 is perfectly fine for melee builds, 125 helps for casters so you have a bit more room for attunement without neglecting survival stats.
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>>182714871
I got my 28 Ears in 3 and a half days of Dorkmooning at SL25+2. You have to keep in mind that since there's a 15 level downsearch range, you'll likely be matching with people who have upgraded their weapon only to +1.

The lower soul level you are, the less competition you have from other prospective blueberries.
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Whats the attributepoints for a vordt hammer twink?
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Have poise values changed at all since 1.08? If so, can someone please point me towards an up to date calculator?
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I'm currently playing DS2 unpatched. Should be fun. Any recommended builds? Was thinking of going cleric and just destroying everything with lightning. I just remembered how ridiculously broken this game was on release where you could walk on top of the world and skip all the way to Nashandra.
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>>182716640
He's the only one who uses the term "DS2 babby," but I doubt he'd post as an anon if it meant an opportunity to shit on the game.
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>>182716606
Don't know, I've never played Castlevania.
Without nostalgiafaggotry, where's the best starting point?
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>>182716761
Depends on where you want to twink, you need at least 20 STR to 2H wield it so if you do high wall just start Warrior and get 20 END so you can swing two-three times consistently with Chain.
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>>182716606
>Do you think Castlevania, especially II: Simon's Quest, was the original Souls game?
No.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aW61DAQqA0U

Game Mechanics for Demon's Souls were based mostly on Evergrace and Armored Core (particularly drawing inspiration from AC in the story concepts and character design). Miyazaki cites Ocarina of Time and Everquest as inspiration for his revision of DeS. The aesthetics for Demon's Souls was also heavily inspired by Eternal Ring and Shadow Tower, sharing a lot of the same employees.

Castlevania might have had some influence in how DS1's world was put together (particularly Sympthony of the Night, regarding New Londo and Anor Londo) but those concepts were never fleshed out.
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>>182716920
High wall/undead, alright
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>>182716891
Symphony of the Night.
>What is a man?
>A miserable pile of Secrets!

Elevator pitch for castlevania: When people say "Metroidvania" they mean games where you slowly unlock an interconnected world by using spacial awareness. One-way doors that require you to circle around to another area and then come back to where that room logically was, this time from the other side, to open up a shortcut is a classic Metroid/Castlevania thing, and DS1/DS3 are full of it. That's the series's main gimmick.

Symphony of the Night is famous because the entire game, once you beat it, flips upside down and you play the entire game backwards and upside down again, as an ingenious way to add an entirely new gameplay element and lots of content without adding more disc space or development time.
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>>182717265
SotN is shit and is what ruined Castlevania.
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>>182716606
dark souls is very, very castlevania
different goals obviously but castlevania was one of the first games to really do the whole "bloody violent horrible undeath and eldritch horrors everywhere in this fucking castle" thing right without any real gimmicks, it's just a game about moving through a really shitty medieval nightmare castle and or the places connected to it
>>182716891
harmony of dissonance is one of the longest games by far, and one of the last ones before it started getting a little too anime.

aria of sorrow was i think the first one where you could equip different weapons and collect spells in the form of monsters' souls, literally the last game in the series that involved good artwork and wasnt super anime
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>>182717396
Why?
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>>182716170
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>>182716170
It's an infinite, free supply of repair powder.

The enemy was added in the DLC to make a no-bonfire no-death no-merchant playthrough feasible, since otherwise you will run out of repair powder very fast.
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It'll happen this TGS, right bros? RIGHT?
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Why do people get so mad when I use a dagger?
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>>182716348
Will bringing my 120 characters to 125 get me cyberbullied if I ever post my builds?
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>>182717725
He probably likes the hard, old-school platformer type Castlevania games
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>>182718786
Only if you're doing it to get a meaningless level advantage or gouging stats like a perfectly softcapped quality build at 120 putting 5 points in Faith for regen memes.
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i cant find sirrus anywhere in firelink. I already progressed far and killed alrich and the other 3 lords.
did i fuck up?
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>>182716696
This makes me think I might just want to make a new character for the miracle achievement. Thats what I ended up doing for DaS2 and it ended up being WAY quicker than grinding the falconers for sunlight medals.

Yeah ok, thats probably what I'll do. Thanks anon.
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>>182718952
Did you hand in the Dreamchaser's Ashes?
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>>182719013
i think so yeah
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>>182719171
Then she should be there, did you level up with Rosaria? That locks out her questline.
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>>182719232
yeah nevermind I didnt.
thanks
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>>182716891
The original. Symphony of the Night has nice graphics and soundtrack, but it isn't anything like a Souls game. The enemy placement feels random and there is no challenge.
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>>182716696
Sl25 here, never got the weapon thingy, if I carry a +3 offhand, I will miss some summons?
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>>182719708
Weapon matchmaking is determined by the highest weapon level youve ever held on that character. So if you make a +3 weapon, that character is now permanently at +3 until you make a weapon higher than +3. But you cant ever go lower than +3 on that character again. Even if you unequip, or store, or destroy that weapon. Its a bit like soul memory from DaS2.

The specific formula for what weapons can match with what are on the wiki.
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>>182720061
>tfw already +3
I've fugged up
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What are the best spears for pure dex builds?
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>>182720241
Plow and Long Spear.
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>>182720241
My penis
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>>182718715
Armored Core 6? Yeah.
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>>182720390
He said spear not short sword.
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>>182720294
Real talk, how is the plow good? Is it just long?
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>>182718786
125 without prisoner's chain has more street cred than 120 with prisoner's chain.
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Is any great sword better than the Zweihander for just hacking through PvE? Seems like it has a good move set and does plenty of damage. Retarded looking weapons are off limits.
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>Lothric Long Spear grants 15 poise
>only move with HA is the shitty easily parryable WA.
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>>182720548
It's the longest pure physical damage spear and one of the highest ARs in the class, it's simple but amazing.
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>>182720743
It's an offhand item
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>>182720495
Amun definite proof of them saying this? Like AC was uttered out of their mouths in a interview?
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Talk me out of a bow and sword build in DaS1
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>>182720741
Astora Greatsword

>Retarded looking weapons

subjective
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>>182720741
First part of the post got cutoff. Talking 3.
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>>182715994
>Doing a Louis Armstrong cosplay in DS2.
Sweet dude my friend did that too
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>>182720926
Firsthand source from IGN: http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/09/21/from-software-working-on-3-games-one-of-which-is-armored-core

and also from Kotaku, who had journalists there http://kotaku.com/miyazaki-gives-clear-answers-on-the-future-of-dark-soul-1786887531

Straight from the Miyazaki's mouth. He was trying to be vague but he spilled the beans and admitted one of their next games is going to be Armored Core and that it's already in early production. He has still said nothing regarding the other two titles.
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>>182718662
>The enemy was added in the DLC to make a no-bonfire no-death no-merchant playthrough feasible
>have to run all the way back to the Gutter
>all the way down the Gulch again
>through Sunken King
>just because your weapon barely has enough durability to kill Watcher / Defender
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Is the Harald Curved Greatsword worth bumping my DEX up 2 points for?

How does it compare to the Exile GS?
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>>182720741
Zwei in DS3 is kind of shit. It's outclassed by pretty much every ultra greatsword. It's niche is being a "light" greatsword without thrusting attacks, since Astora is better in every way but has a thrust if you don't like that. Both are obtained fairly early too.

Lothric Knight Greatsword outclasses them both however, so does Profaned and the regular Greatsword, though they all require more stats to make use of.

Best weapon for PvE in DS3 has always been the longsword or sellsword twinblades with the appropriate resin.
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>>182721440
If you're going to use it on a pure STR build I'd say not really. It's the longest curved greatsword and has a great WA for trading and fucking up Quickstep users but it does have a decent AR gap with Exile on STR. Also compared to Exile's 16 Dex requirement which also lets you use other great STR weapons like Splitleaf and the Greatlance the 18 Dex of Harald doesn't get you access to anything else so it would be exclusively for that. If you got the points to spare on your build go ahead but it's not worth it imo, I only use Harald on my quality or dark build personally.
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>>182721368
Cool, hope it isn't trash
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>>182721662
It has a thrust on the roll though. That's kind of why I've been using it over Astora.
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*hits u*
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>>182721712
As long as Miyazaki doesn't direct, it should be good. Let him handle character design and general plot, but keep his hands far away from the gameplay.
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>>182721886
Since he's president I doubt he'll be directing stuff anymore. Maybe a couple a titles but I doubt this year.
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>>182721850
deli meats
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>>182722079
>Since he's president I doubt he'll be directing stuff anymore.

He was president during DS3 despite directing it, and when Naotoshi Jin was president he directed games still, at least until the mid-2000s.

But you're right, he probably won't direct much solely because now they have a much larger staff (280 vs <150 before BB) and are doing more projects simultaneously.
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Who /comfy/ here?
what SL is good for +3?
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>>182722568
I did +3 at about 150, but most of my points where in vit. If you don't care about vit then I'm sure you could make it work at 120.
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/dsg/ must be a bunch of chads because there is very little traffic for a Friday night.
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>>182683645
Holy shit, this is so fucking wrong
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>>182723489
make your own
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>>182723306
Busy dumping on scrubs and their shitter phantoms
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>>182723562
dump the original text file and I will, it needs some editing
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>>182723306
There's been very little traffic in general lately because /dsg/ is decomposing.
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>>182723668
list the fixes you would make and I'll make a new one if they make sense

not sure I have the original text file anymore
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>>182722951
Are you talking about NG+?
I meant weapon level anon
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>>182723489
Welcome to /dsg/. It'll take you a while to realize that we aren't good at the game.
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>>182722568
You can comfortably play with a +3 weapon anywhere from SL25 to 35. Most people will graduate to +4 by the time they hit Abyss Watchers though, and have a +6 weapon by the time they get out of Smouldering Lake at around SL40-45.
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>>182724283
Is it worth sticking at +4 for SL45, though? Should I just take the plunge to +5?
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>>182723874
Okay from the top

>sotfs doesn't include any extra bosses
>both games run at 60fps
>it's a bit arguable to say whether the DLC are integrated with the story of the base game in scholar, I think what this is trying to say is that the DLC is accessed through items you pick up in the world instead of items dropped into your inventory
>it might be worth mentioning the considerable rebalancing of the game that sotfs represents as well
>would strongly advise playing dark souls 1 first so you properly understand both a) the criticism of dark souls 2 and b) the criticism of dark souls 1
>they sorta share plot/setting details in the background if you're paying attention but I guess for noobs this isn't that relevant
>das2 doesn't have good dungeon crawling or exploration
>I wouldn't say das2 improves on das1 except peripherally, many of the problems that plagued das1 plague das2 as well
>if they're playing scholar the "set lighting low" isn't that necessary
>"only as strong as the weakest stat" thing is gibberish that hinders new players more than helps, needs to either be clarified or removed
>might be worth going more in depth in the starting classes, it depends what the goal is, in reality they don't matter all that much because starting weapons are ~easy to find early on iirc
>life ring is completely useless as a starting gift I'm pretty sure
>adaptability needs to be emphasised way more as the most fundamental stat to level at the beginning for a newer player
>should explain the concept of agility
>dex description is accidentally about str
>doesn't really explain hexes or pyromancies, just miracles and sorceries

probably other stuff as well
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>>182724978
You also forget that sotfs is cheaper than base + dlc and base is ded compared to sotfs

But both of you are forgetting the fact that das2 has the
BEST DRAGON ARMOR
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Are you cucked if you didn't farm loyce souls before ivory king?
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>>182725530
Don't know if cucked, but boy you sure are fucked.
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>>182725530
kinda my dude
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>>182724978
Looks like these are less "this is wrong" and more "this is just not explained right"

>sotfs doesn't include any extra bosses
Aldia

>it's a bit arguable to say whether the DLC are integrated with the story of the base game in scholar, I think what this is trying to say is that the DLC is accessed through items you pick up in the world instead of items dropped into your inventory
I think they changed item descriptions around a bit, and things like the eye of the priestess will let you see invisible enemies in the base game now too.

>would strongly advise playing dark souls 1 first so you properly understand both a) the criticism of dark souls 2 and b) the criticism of dark souls 1
I don't see it as necessary at all. I don't think newbies even need to understand the criticism of both games, this is just a guide on how to have fun with Dark Souls 2, regardless of your prior experience.

>das2 doesn't have good dungeon crawling or exploration
Nah. DS2 has the most freedom in being able to pick an area, go fight a boss, then come back and reap your spoils. Every other game restricts you to fewer areas and doesn't even let you respawn bosses. Best dungeon crawling.

>I wouldn't say das2 improves on das1 except peripherally, many of the problems that plagued das1 plague das2 as well
The basic game mechanics, bugs, hardware optimization, gameplay variety, and balance is vastly improved. It's just the graphics, story, creativity, enemy variety and overall level design that shits the bed with DS2, which are big things, but it DOES improve over DS1 in many ways.

>if they're playing scholar the "set lighting low" isn't that necessary
Scholar base lighting is higher than DS2

>"only as strong as the weakest stat" thing is gibberish that hinders new players more than helps, needs to either be clarified or removed
It's literally true though. The gains from 0 to 15 in most levels are -huge- and a lot of stats give you benefits and defenses that no other stat gives.
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How come in DS1 I'm hearing a "THOOOONG!" and it looks like yellow souls fly at my head every so often?

I just started and I'm hollow. Just walking around the undead burg.
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>>182724978
>might be worth going more in depth in the starting classes, it depends what the goal is, in reality they don't matter all that much because starting weapons are ~easy to find early on iirc
Yeah, I agree. I kinda ran out of space though and I didn't want to spend another hour on it

>life ring is completely useless as a starting gift I'm pretty sure
All the gifts are useless, but life ring is the only one with a use in early game. Ascetic and petrified something (which, at best, gives you a titanite chunk or a weapon you can't use) doesn't matter until mid-game at least.

>adaptability needs to be emphasised way more as the most fundamental stat to level at the beginning for a newer player
15 ADP gives you rolls on-par with DS1. It's more important to keep your equip weight low -and- have more than 90 agility than it is to do one or the other. Pumping 20+ ADP in early game is mostly a waste and bad advice for a new player that will end up locking them out of being able to try other things. ADP is just one of those stats you should level to 10 or 15 early on to cover your basis, but isn't worth emphasizing further.

>should explain the concept of agility
Agreed.

>dex description is accidentally about str
typo, thanks

>doesn't really explain hexes or pyromancies, just miracles and sorceries
yeah, that should be added or at least emphasized more in the archetypes
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>>182725951
Found mixed signals, does covenant of champions make them infinitely respawn?
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>>182726275
You just got an extra estus use. When a player kindles a bonfire while online, it gives 1 extra estus to other players in their node pool (the 18-20 players you're connected to on the serer).
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>>182726304
It does, but drop rates are a lot lower once ivory king is dead, and covenant of champions does not prevent the drop rate decrease from killing enemies multiple times, it just prevents despawning.

Best way to farm lloyce souls after he dies is to use a bonfire ascetic and go to NG+, or to put your sign down and pick them up when summoned. If you are a white or goal phantom, they drop in your world as well instead of lifegems.
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>>182726392
Oh, cool.
Must be active right now.
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>>182726610
Are you using DSCM?

All that matters is that there are 20 other players, one of which is in your area and kindling a bonfire. For bonfires before difficult bosses, most people kindle at least once so if you hang out in an area you'll see 3-4 estus gains as long as your node pool is populated.
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>>182724475
If you're at SL45, other people in your matchmaking bracket will be anywhere from +4 to +7 (if they got the Chunks out of the Smouldering Lake Crystal Lizard and trading with Pickle Pee).

A +4 weapon will match with anyone from +2 to +6, whereas a +5 weapon will match between +3 and +7. There are very few people who will still have an upgrade level of +2 at SL45 (they would have to have missed the Dreamchaser's Ashes and be deliberately not spending their upgrade materials), so staying at +4 doesn't gain you much if anything.

>>182725530
>>182726304
Company of Champions does make them infinitely respawn. It's possible to farm Loyce Souls after beating Burnt Ivory King, but you're also majorly fucked in terms of speed and difficulty.

Farming them during the boss fight, you have four Loyce Knights plus up to two NPC summons to back you up, and the Charred Loyce Knights are at regular difficulty. But farming them after the fight, you're by yourself the entire time and the Charred Loyce Knights will eventually stop spawning, necessitating using Company of Champions to spawn them again only now they're a lot harder to kill.

Armed with this knowledge, the only reason to farm them after the boss fight is if you want to listen to Alsanna's dialogue, since she says new stuff after reaching each milestone. Give her all 50 souls at once, and she skips right to the end.
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The Memelight greatsword has very underwhelming damage
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>>182726392
>getting other players kindle
>way of white circlets boosting miracles
>vagrants
>tail weapons
It's the little details that make DS1 so much better than its sequels.
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>Comming off of Bloodborne
>Decide to name my character Freida, and play her like a female version of Alfred
>MFW AoA
>MFW she's a nun as well
I feel like I precognitivly ripped this character off and now I need to find a way of wearing her sweet nun outfit while not coming off as a Chinese knockoff cosplay
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>>182726723
No idea what DSCM is.
Uhh, I'm on PC if that says anything.
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>>182726751
Neat, I've been staying at +4 for all this time, but that makes a lot of sense.

It's annoying that twinkling and scale weapons have to stay at +2 regardless, though.
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>>182726751
Didn't they alter the weapon memory range so that it was only +-1?
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>>182727081
Dark Souls Connectivity Mod

It helps fix the garbage netcode. Use it.
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>>182727081
DSCM is the dark souls connectivity mod. It's a program that fixes the game's relatively broken node-seeking by matching players up based on their level and area, rather than just download region like DS1 vanilla did. DS1's PC port was really poorly done and the online matchmaking is a mess since they can't rely on XBL / PSN. It was their first attempt at making an online PC game basically.

>>182726803
world tendency and bonfire ascetics were both better ideas overall though. Shame we couldn't have a game with all of those things, even if it would have been a clusterfuck.
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>>182726751
The pyrofag is the only problem since the other 2 can be stunlocked to death.
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>>182727195
netcode is still garbage, but it allows for reasonable matchmaking.
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>>182726803
You act as if the other games didn't have their own little details.

>the Rotten losing attacks if you hack off his arms
>candles lighting in the King's Passage each time a player dies to Looking Glass Knight
>the Dragon Knights at Dragon Shrine allowing you to pass if you beat the Drakekeepers in honorabru duel
>Raime going straight into rage mode if you walk into his arena with Velstadt's helm
>Alonne committing sepukku if you beat him without healing

>literally every extra feature when you have enough Insight
>Gasciogne chuckling if you summon him and then use the Tiny Music Box
>Make Contact giving you a rune if you actually wait it out at Brain of Mensis

>Fire Keeper responding to your gestures
>Lion K***ht Albert BCing out if you murder Emma
>Wolnir having a different death animation if you somehow land the killing blow on him that isn't from breaking a bracelet
>
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>>182726751
>>182725530
also, drop rates are actually a lot higher if you have summoned phantoms with you during the boss fight.
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>>182726757
Your stats? What game?
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>Die 10+ times to Gank Squad and Sinh with Pursuer UG
>Kill them both first try with Grand Lance

Are UGs shit compared to lances or did I just git gud?
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>>182727842
Ds3, 60 int
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>>182727162
It's +-1 only up to +3 I believe. It really depends on how you interpret "compared both ways" in that table on Wikidot.

>>182727310
You have to be stupid fast with how you beat them though, and the one that isn't stunlocked by your weapon can still come at you so you have to stack them up so that you can line them up properly.

I've done Loyce Soul farming both ways, and it's much less stressful when you have your own Loyce Knights to back you up. I kind of want to listen to Alsanna's dialogue again since I don't completely remember it, but I'll probably look it up somewhere should I ever reinstall SotFS again (and it'll be on a playthrough that goes into NG+2 for the last two achievements I still need).
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>>182727883
UGSes are kind of shit against crowds, the lance is faster for taking down single targets so it makes sense that you'd have it easier against the Gank Squad. Fuck that "boss" though, I just brought my two white phantoms in and chain-backstabbed the Alva and Havel while they were distracted.

As for Sinh, who knows, I don't know of any reason why he would be stronger/weaker against one or the other. He tends to fly around a lot, so maybe the faster attacks from the lance just let you get damage in on him more reliably.
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>>182727898
You have unrealistic expectations. Its about on par with crystal weapons in the same class and the chip damage is even better.
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>playing DS1 for the first time, no googling
>abandon Blighttown for too hard
>find Darkroot Garden, buy Crest of Artorias, wtf why not
>area hard too
>refuse to abandon
>git gud
>completely clear area
>mfw I have trained on men and beast and mushroom and fear not
>mfw I get back to Blighttown and breeze through

feels good man.

Not sure if focusing Darkroot Garden first took anything away from my game; everyone cuts their teeth on Blgihttown so I sort of feel I missed out.
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>>182727898
>using the moonlight greatsword in ds3
alright
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>>182727883
>>182728095
Sin is noticably weaker against thrust damage. It's probably something to do with that spear shoved through his chest, I dunno.
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>>182728457
You missed nothing. I felt really satisfied first time I managed to get out of Blighttown after 3 days of much suffering (I rushed to the bonfire when I saw it and noticed I got stuck in there and had to march through that storm of shit, mosquitoes, abhorrent creatures and unending death), but then I breezed through the Garden. The way I see it, you just felt the same satisfaction, just in a way many didn't.
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>>182712674
>SL 133
>Even using prisoner chain with such a high SL
Anon do you just suck at tight stat investments?
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>>182728463
There's absolutely nothing wrong with it.
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>>182729025
There's nothing wrong with it, but there are still quite a few better options. Especially since it is no longer the exclusive melee weapon of sorcerors like in DS1, or as versatile with physical vs elemental damage (and the best melee nuke) like in DS2.
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>>182729003
No, I just see no reason to stop before 133. Can you give me one?
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>>182728457
Blighttown isn't all that hard if you find the shield in the Depths via proper exploration. I never found any of the enemies to be much of a problem, it was always the blowdart shitters.

Darkroot is filled with much tougher enemies by comparison, from the TWoP giants to the Black Knight to those golems in the Basin, not to mention that you're technically not "supposed" to face the forest fuckers until much later when you need to reach another part of the game. And the Titanite Demon that you use as a gauge of your strength to even enter the area in the first place.
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>>182729123
You trade matchmaking with people in the SL110-115 range (still active) for matchmaking with people in the SL135-140 (practically dead) range.

It's fine to go over 120 but you trade overall activity for points.
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>>182729243
>SL110-115 range (still active) for matchmaking with people in the SL135-140 (practically dead) range.

No idea what game you're playing. If anything the game gets MORE active after 120.
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>>182729113
That doesn't mean it's not great, it's one of the few weapons to reach optimal damage scaling at just 40 in a stat (INT) making it great for both pure mages and people wanting to poise stack a greatsword. The damage is great and magic is the second best elemental type in pvp after dark, it's standard greatsword length and the WA is very strong as a rollcatch and trading tool due to its fast speed and high poise health. The only comparable options in usefulness for a pure sorcerer are a Crystal Longsword/Lothric Knight Sword or Heysel Pick.
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>>182729123
Let's see.

1. The Reddit glitch is a thing
2. Going up to SL100 and higher already kills PvP for anything outside of duelfaggotry, going beyond SL120 just restricts your matchmaking pool even more
3. You already hit at least two of the major soft caps by SL80, and much more so at SL120 on almost any possible build
4. You look like a retard who thinks that extra levels will give him an advantage or something
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>>182729637
You have absolutely no fucking idea what you're talking about. Literally everything you just said is complete nonsense and I seriously suggest you try actually playing the game you're talking about.
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>>182729637
The hell is the Reddit glitch?
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>>182729842
That are actually calculations that supports what he's saying, man, math's on his side.120 and beyond will restrict you to either duels or Pontiff's gankfests. Not sure if it has changed with the new DLC, though.
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>>182729504
Below 120 you still catch players that are doing the DLC or took a very slow progression through the game.

Above 120 you only get NG+2 or above players or pvp exclusive.

SL120: 108 to 132
SL133: 120 to 146

I do agree that higher levels make more sense for pvp though.
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>>182729986
>>182729997
I don't much care about fighting people still playing through the game who are unprepared for pvp.
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>>182714596
The black eye orb works, but there is no legitimate way to get it. You can cheat it in though
>>182715569
Tarkus also invaded you at some point
>>182714990
I was making a skeleton, don't know if anyone else did. It didn't go particularly well as far as the face go, will try to make the proportions better with CE
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>>182728959
Yeah I suppose so. And I find beating the mushroom guys and humans in the garden more challanging and fun anyway I think. Dodging that mushroom punch at the last minute and hearing it just miss was awesome every time. And the fucking fight with the "knight" at the grave in the garden was an amazing end to the area.

The blighttown cave trolls are the closest to that style of fighting I think, and they're so big and clunky you can dance around them easy.

>>182729240
The spider shield? Got it and the shadow armor, to help with the poison but I still left the area for a while.

I think I found blighttown so difficult because of the blowdarts too, plus the confusing levels plus the enemies coming outta nowhere and just everything together made me annoyed and take stupid chances.

Meanwhile the garden is just nice and green and leafy... And the enemies have the honor to try stabbing you in the face, not in the back in the dark.
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>>182730191
Oh, well if you're not interest in pvp then fuck him for picking on you.
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>>182730191
This is why the SL meta in Japan is so much higher and more vague. They level up high enough to get out of the way of players that aren't doing dedicated pvp.
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>>182730196
how does it look like anon
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>>182730202
Yeah, the Garden is really challenging if you go far deep into it, but Blighttown will be forever It Ain't Me inducing for me.
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Is the onyx blade the only dedicated dark weapon?
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>>182730191
If you don't care about the PvP, then why bother asking for advice on your build? You may as well just level up to SL351 and cap everything.
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What's the appropriate level for vordts hammer? I know it can be done at 20+2 tier, but maybe it shines more later?
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>>182730349
How do they level up to make things not boring up there?

>>182730561
There's a kind of shotel in The Ringed City, IIRC
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>>182730559
It's because the garden is two levels in one, and you're supposed to return there after beating the moonlight butterfly (and getting the watchtower basement key) or clearing blight town and buying the master key.

Crest of Artorias is a way to access the harder area without doing either.
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>>182730597
I dont care about ganking lower level players. Thats not the same as not caring about PvP.
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>>182730691
Murky Hand Scythe and Mad King's Crucifix.
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>>182730561
Izalith Staff
Sunless Talisman
Caitha's Chime
Murky Hand Scythe
Murky Longstaff
Crux of the Mad King

But yeah, Hex builds are either not worth doing or just another flavor of Sorcery with less variety. Stick to DaS2 if you want good Hexes.
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>>182730705
Man, this game is so good. I miss playing it for the first time.
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>>182730370
Like a very hungry albino man with extreme hair loss. Can't post pics now, maybe tomorrow
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>>182730746
>ganking lower level players
You know literally nothing about the game, do you? You're just tossing out words that you think fit into whatever conversation is relevant.
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>>182730691
Remember when they patched the game to make matchmaking over SL350 or so all in the same matchmaking group? That's why. JP players don't do dedicated pvp until you're past SL140 or so (high enough you never encounter base game players) and they keep leveling up infinitely. The theory is that pvp should be more about skill, not your soul level, so everyone might as well be able to equip all weapons and miracles and creatively use them.

Its part of the armored core mentality where the main game is just tutorial for the pvp, and all players are on an equal playing field after they beat the main game, rather than having some players only with access to some parts/miracles/weapons.
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>>182730819
I keep the game fresh by using the master key to make Sif the first boss I fight, followed by Four Kings.
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>>182730894
>people point out you can fight people still playing through the game at SL120
>I say I'm not interested in that
>"LOL YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOURE TALKING ABOUT"

Okay guy. Whatever you say.
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>>182730746
>ganking
>as an invader

Invasions are the true souls pvp anyway, you complete pleb
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>>182730934
I see now. Still, it must be very weird and fights surely take forever.
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>>182731131
Define 'gank' then. I can guarantee that it does not mean whatever you think it means. And at SL120 and higher you are clearly not going to encounter the type of PvP you think you are going to encounter.
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>>182730561
Define dark. There are some dark weapons mostly in the DLC, but in terms of dark scaling it's the only innate one that scales off great INT/FAI, though since dark and fire scaling are the exact same in 3 practically speaking things like Demon's Scar and other fire weapons can be added to that. Also things this anon mentioned>>182730806 are either pointless since things like Sunless Talisman and Caitha's only work for Lifehunt Scythe and Dead Again (both shit) or work better as STR/FAI like Murky Hand Scythe or Crucifix since they can be buffed by Dark Blade and Dark Blade scales only off Faith.
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>>182731334
Alright, I used the word "gank" incorrectly. My mistake. And I expect to find pvp at the pvp meta soul level.
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>>182731236
Why? It's only 20% more HP and you get 20% more damage. The only other difference is that you get to use different types of spells too.

DS3 is built around that kind of pvp because it punishes multiclassing the most, and the infusions favor single weapons. The game is by far the best balanced when it comes to late game pvp, even though DS2 had better main game balance.
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>>182731450
At SL120 and higher, there are going to be only two types of PvP:

1. Duelfaggotry. Virtually everybody stops at SL120 or SL125, so they'll find partners equivalent to their SL much more easily than you will. Only chance you'll really have is if you match upwards to the smaller pool of players who go up to SL140 or SL150.

2. Gank squads. If you think invading into a world where there are no mobs and it's just you versus the host and his two passworded friends is going to be fun, then all the better for you. All the more so when the host has his double Estus and 30% more HP advantage, and can re-summon his buddies faster than you can kill both at the same time.

You're also under the false illusion that only new players exist at SL100 and below, and that experienced people who make new characters and new builds don't exist. Gank squads and twinks (and twinked out gank squads) are common encounters at all soul levels, and newbies making their first PvP builds at SL120 also exist. You're deluding yourself if you think that there's any correlation between a player's soul level and their experience at PvP.
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>>182731519
Yeah, I watched some videos on YT and saw that the only difference was the bizarre amount of weapons and spells they carry per fight. Cool stuff.
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>>182731972
It's always important to remember that anywhere outside of Japan is an 'import market' to From and not their main concern. They have no one at that company who speaks english.
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>>182731920
There are fewer ganksquads than you think, but yes, thats what I want. Also, SL133 can duel with people even below 120.
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>>182732036
What the fuck man, the west gave them a shitton of money. Why would they consider us just "import market"?
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>http://vgmdb.net/album/20402

lmao, i absolutely fucking refuse to believe this. they are guaranteed lying. you had better sample capability way back in 2005, so they somehow mixed and produced something that sounds worse than what a capable composer using sample libraries could do in 2010?

this must only apply to literally one or two tracks. can you imagine the money spent on music to be higher for demons souls than than any other game in the dark souls series? because that's what this implies

dark souls 1 credits look sketchy as fuck too
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>tfw no black sorcerer set
I fucking love the silly DaS1 sorcerer's hat, but it's clashing with the rest of my armor.
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>>182732341
You do realize that 5 years ago, the west was only ~10% of their market, right?

They're slow to adapt to a new world where they suddenly find their games being bought 2:1 by a country that no one in the company knows anything about and doesn't speak to. From has NO marketing or localization work outside of Japan, they rely entirely on bandai namco or sony for all of that.
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>>182732667
Makes one wonder how they made Metal Wolf Chaos then.
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>>182731450
Except pvp at that level is basically just two people circlestrafing each other until one person gets frustrated and attacks, at which point they either instantly lose, or merely get punished for 75% of their HP bar.

Duelfaggotry is a disease. Become a red.
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>>182732370
DeS music was composed via sound libraries, so yeah, these credits are clearly not correct. I actually wonder if it was a series of psuedonyms or fake names behind the OST, because none of the names listed have credits in any other video games. The only credits associated with the OST are from the art book release soundtrack, and NONE of the names listed appear to be employees of either From, Studio Japan, or any of the outsourced companies.

DeS OST definition isn't From's work though. Neither is Bloodborne's.
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>>182733000
Dont worry. Im all for invasions.
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>>182732939
Really? As a joke based on stereotypes. They don't even get the US map right in the game and the cities look wrong except for major landmarks that you could see pictures of in a book. The story itself has nothing to do with the US and it's only the names and look of some of the characters that were based on George Bush and "generic action movie bad guy".

In an interview a while back, I think with Naotoshi Jin, they were asked why they wouldn't release MWC to the west, and they said they were ashamed of it because it was making fun of another country and thought that americans would hate it for being nationalist / stereotypical / fake.

From does know about western aesthetics (most of their games are considered "Westaboo" in that they use western aesthetics in Japanese stories) but they know little/nothing about western culture, video games, or marketing.
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>>182683691
No, keep beating him until he beats you on his own.
He's either new and trying to get better, or he's just super shit at PvP
IF you want to give him a chance, you can try to take it a bit easier on him
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>>182733010
spooky
also i can't find any track that would make use of any of the credited instrument players in demon souls
all other fromsoft games appear credited correctly though, they are all made with sample libs with additional real voices or instruments layered over for things you can't do with samples or just because the budget allowed it
what do you mean about bloodborne though? half or more of it was outsourced to a real orchestra but they worked together remotely with some legitimate japanese composers

i'm sad fromsoft doesn't make any behind the scenes videos or interviews for their music
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Could anyone help me out w/ Soul of Cinder? I just wanna play the DLC, but I'm having a hard time.

Ser Muriel
password: dicks
PS4
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>>182733806
go finish the entire game before killing soul of cinder, then go dlc1>dlc2 then afterwards you go kill cinder

you fucking donut
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>>182733904
I've done everything already.
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>>182733934
then you should easily overpower cinder?? and you don't need to kill cinder to enter dlc
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>>182733934
Not him, but even the DLCs? By the way, how's DS3 on PS4? I'm considering to buy it.
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>>182733610
>what do you mean about bloodborne though? half or more of it was outsourced to a real orchestra but they worked together remotely with some legitimate japanese composers

Bloodborne's music was handled by Sony Computer Entertainment (SIE) and Studio Japan, the co-developer on Bloodborne (and DeS, to a lesser extent though) not From.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnUAGdBwcCg

this is one of the few translated videos that exist from dark soul's special edition releases and such. At 3:50 you can see their in-house sound team, FreQuency/FROMSOUND, which is basically just a small electronic sampling team that can play guitars. Fromsound is their label, I believe.
http://www.fromsoundrecords.com
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>>182733967
I'm bad at the game though
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>>182733934
Obviously not, if you claim that you still haven't played the DLCs.

You already have access to both DLCs already. Go back to Cathedral of the Deep, or look around the bonfire before SoC.
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>>182734017
>>182733610
also if you want more insider stuff, check out their band's blog

http://www.fromsoundrecords.com/blog/contents/contents_00058.html
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>>182684529
Did a bow only run once, swapping between black bow and dragonslayer is the way to go.
Have fun with Biggie Smalls
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>>182734324
cool thanks
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Is Darkmoonblade + Sellsword any fun? Or is it just a shitty cheesing build to delete people.
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>>182734673
The latter
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>>182734049
you can do it.

I'm re-starting myself or I'd give a hand
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>guy alt f4's twice in a row as I invade him
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>>182734552
O&S isn't that hard bow-only if you're willing to kill ornstein first and miss out on the leo ring. You can kite them across the area and fire from behind the pillars.
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Fuck me, Midir is probably the only boss I've fought where it would be easier to kill him irl.
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>>182734858
attack the head

he's weak to wolf knight weapons

don't summon friends.
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>>182734717
What's a fun weapon that can be used together with Darkmoonblade? I've been grinding Covenant items this past week just for that Miracle and Letos Greathammer is getting boring.
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what does Bone of Order even DO?
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>>182734763
It's been a few years since I fought them, DS 1 is probably not that hard at all anymore.
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>>182734552
I feel like that wouldn't be too bad if you took out Smough first. I know it's a lot slower than sorc, but ornstein is pretty easy to space out while he's alone and can get stuck behind a pillar.
Should try it some time.
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>>182734917
Saint Bident.
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>>182734917
any small/light weapon that hits multiple times.

The problem is that unlike dark and lightning, there are few to no weapons that have native magic damage but also allow buffing.
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>>182734917
Estoc.
Bident.
Drang Hammers.
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>>182734917
Brigand Twindaggers + quickstepping

>>182734940
Same as Way of White Circlet.

>>182735228
Drakeblood is about the only one I can think of. And it's kind of shit otherwise except for riposting.
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can someone post the dark souls 2 weapon tier list? I looked one up and it had bs katana as mid tier so I knew it was full of shit
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>>182735472
Here's the most up to date 2 one that I know of.
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>invade Lolita
>Instant boner
>want to go give her 99 embers, she's obviously new from her playstyle
>kill her by accident

:(
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>>182735651
message her, apologize, and tell her you'll give her free items if she sends you audio files/ASMR
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>guardbreak dude multiple times
>riposte is extremely inconsistent, sometimes just a swing even if I'm right on top of him

What is this shit?
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>>182735739
Good idea mate thanks
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Please let the next "souls" game be killing aliens and robots with laser blades.
Exactly like that one fanart I saw.
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>>182736224
I want the next souls game focus on exploration in the sense that you spend the game going deeper and deeper into more dangerous zones while coming back to a hub to upgrade with shortcuts that let skip early parts of the levels.
No fast travel, leveling up could be done at checkpoints but gear upgrades only at the main hub
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how do I get better at PvP?
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>>182736224
that'd be cool. with really subtle 2001 a space odyssey style storytelling.
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>>182738068

1) get Fallen Knight Set, LKSS and Shield of Want
2) R1 roll, R1 roll, R1 roll, , R1 roll , R1 roll, , R1 roll
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I really love the wolf knights greatsword so far but is it memery at SL120?
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>>182735745
It's how animation chaining works. If you just r1 spam on someone, after the guardbreak you'll only get another r1. There is a small "grace" period where the next r1 will just continue the animation chain, about half a second. If you just very briefly pause after the guardbreaking r1, you'll always get the riposte. In laggy situations, the guardbreak animation many appear on your screen just before or even after the enemy recovers. In those cases just r1 spam because you'll never get a riposte, unless you absolutely know which r1 will guardbreak, like after the enemy gets a partial or is otherwise low on stamina
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>>182738968
What do you mean memery? It's one of the best greatswords in the game.
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>>182736224
berserk souls would be much better
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does anyone have a hard time playing demon's souls? Not skill-wise, but graphics, feel, etc. It feels slow and looks pretty brown everywhere I've been.

I dunno. I love dark souls and bloodborne.
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>tfw trying to fight Midir with moonlight sword build on NG+6
This must be what hell feels like.
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>>182736224
Please no let it be american old west
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>>182739428
It's 8 years old and a product of its time. Look at other games from the PS3 generation, 2006-2009, "Brown" was the aesthetic, mostly because of how the PS3's hardware handled bloom and dust/dirt effects so well. Demon's Souls is probably one of the brighter games of that era. It wasn't until 2011-2013 that games started getting brighter and less grimdark gritty.
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>human
>online
>no phantoms/invaders/spirits at all
>can't use cracked red eye orb
help
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Is there any weapon in 3 that allows you to jump 10 feet over your opponent or was this pontif faggot using some CE bull shit.
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>>182739576
which game?
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>>182736224
>>182739442
both are good, but I want just want more overt fantasy. Maybe a central hub in an otherspace where you search through multiple worlds, taking their strongest Souls/Blood to rebuild your own world to kindle its flame. Then you could get Arabic \ Persian palaces, arctic fortresses, highland valleys strongholds, etc etc
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>>182739621
Depends, might be Gael's WA. What'd the weapon look like?
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>>182739621
maybe the twin katanas or wolf knight greatsword? They have a pretty large jump as part of their respective WAs.
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>>182739640
Dark Souls 2
Was just invading and it wouldn't work anymore
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>>182739441
just use the cum cloud spell
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>>182739185
I was thinking moveset wise it would be bad in pvp but honestly im starting to learn how to use the weapon arts a lot more better.
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>>182739556
I suppose so. Didn't get a ps3 until ps4 was well out, so that generation mostly passed me by and I've only gotten some PS3 games to compare against.
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>>182739756
Can you quit out? Someone with a really shit connection might be trying to invade you
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>>182739839
Nah it has the basic Greatsword R1s so it can't have a bad moveset. That's your bread and butter moves since it's the tied for the second longest greatsword behind Onyx Blade and has great AR on 40/40 Quality. The R2s are shit save for the 1HR2 if you're a spacing and prediction god. The WAR1 is great because it has strong hyperarmor and catches rolls around you easily with its long range. The WAR2 is a very risky trading move you should use against things like ultra weapons because the recovery is long enough that most players will just backstab you if you use it and whiff it.
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>>182739756
Could be online disabled due to framerate, or softban. Check to see if you can lay down player messages. If not, use the bone of order. Sometimes there's a penalty if you quick the game without going to the menu. Or you could be trying to be invaded by someone and it's just taking forever for them to join.
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>>182739902
I can fast travel and even use the herald's feather, just not the broken red eye
I was invading just fine with repeat hosts/invaders that didn't have THAT much of a shit connection
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>>182739756
You reached your invasion limit for the day. You can wait 24 hours or pay $2.99 to reset your invasion count
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>>182739818
Oh, right.
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>>182739974
Make sure you don't have the burnt human effigy effect
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>>182739874
Look at metal gear solid 4, resident evil 4, Heavy Rain, and red dead redemption. They're all bland grey gritty color palettes, it's just the style that was popular.
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>>182739932
I usually get a message if there was a framerate issue, and I haven't done anything to get softbanned.
I can't write a message, but using a bone of order tells me "Can't use this at this time"
I already traveled to Majula/FOFG so it can't be that I'm being invaded
>>182740075
I just checked and there's no burnt effigy. Again, I was invading/being invaded just fine, but now everything's gone.
I looked at fast travel and every location's bars were white, even though I'm 100% I'm online
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>>182740003
Jesus, just imagine if something like that happened. Seriously, let's try and make business rules for a hypothetical F2P filled with microtransaction shit soulslike game by From Software.
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>>182740198
Just restart the game then
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>>182739925
Thanks for the insight but what shield best compliments the WGS, im thinking shield of want to catch people off guard using the weapon arts.
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>>182740385
Probably Black Knight Shield, Shield of Want, or fittingly the Wolf Knight Greatshield since it's a WA shield.
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>tfw no chalice dungeon equivalency

god what i would give to have a reason to play again
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>>182740679
anytime i go into detail about this i just get bullied and told to go play an MMO

fuck off autoattacking in between ability pushes isnt the same as hack-and-slash
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>>182740679
They even had the perfect lore excuse to do it with all that lands converging and multiple dimensions shit. The randomly generated stuff could be other dimensions with different aspects of world fuckery.
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>Get Game on PS4 because friends want me to play.
>Start the game do usual shit.
>Buy Dark Hand and stuff.
>Get summoned at sl10 at High Wall by friends.
>Get Invaded by "ShitLord"
>Uses Great Club buffed with human resins.
>Somehow 1v1 him with a +2 Mace
>Keep taking him down to low health and he keep fucking estusing for 700+ health
>Nigger also has thorns set going
>Finally decides to just spam roll when he gets out of estus
>He accidentally does rolling attack
>He sends me salt mail for using "Dark Hand" after he gets parried during roll attack.
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>>182740778
You could always try Vindictus or TERA, although I wouldn't recommend the latter, I have experience in it and it's shit.
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>>182740254
Or you could add microtransactions to a game that people already shelled out $60 for. Like what Ubi did with For Honor.
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Someone open up a Darkmoon Club at Pontiffs. I need some fucking Concords (10)
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Anyone want to help me kill twin pursuers for the Ring of Blades +2?
SoTFS, PC, SM is 6.1mil
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>>182741112
armored core verdict day was already a full priced game with $100+ of DLC, so it wouldn't be a first for From either.
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>>182721662
>best weapon for PvE in DS3 has always been the Longsword

The Longsword is mediocre. It's the bread and butter weapon for new players who lack the foreknowledge and don't understand infusions / leveling up and can just hack away at the PvE.

However, the Longsword lacks AR and I honestly think that a Heavy Battle Axe (and with AoA Millwood Battle Axe) are much better weapon choices for PvE than the Longsword is.

I played my first playthrough of DS3 as a Knight with a Longsword and it was fine but then I built an all-STR warrior with the Battle Axe and absolutely melted most of the enemies and bosses.
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>>182741041
they're both very awful and extraordinarily clunky

dark souls is fucking garbage online if you have the tiniest inkling of latency, but holy fuck it's smooth as butter otherwise
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>>182740679
Nioh is the only Souls-like that would work really well with the chalice system because it has the loot system to back it up.
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>>182741145
Sure, God of Struggle I'll drop my sign at the bottom of the ladders leading to the kings gate bonfire
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>>182741353
lucifer nobody really cares about the loot

the only shit that needs to drop from das3 dungeons are slabs, chunks, large, small, twinkling, scales, infusion gems, and souls

renewable sources of limited consumables would be cool too, like blessings, siegbrau, and super grass
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>>182741472
ah, sorry anon, I just finished it with another summon.
sanae, if you're reading this, thanks a ton!
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>>182703336
>>182702909

I don't even care about the lore that much but ENB's Souls Let's Plays are comfy as fuck. Well his pre-DS3 burnout material is. His Twitch streams are otherwise alright but him doing stream of consciousness style of commenting takes a toll on the quality of the streams.
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>>182741734
>nobody cares about the loot
>everything he describes in his post is loot
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>>182741774
what's your build? i'm about to kill Sir Alonne with Bone Fist. Only him and Ivory king DLC left
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>>182741904
LOL, this.
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>>182741904
>>182741978

in nioh, enemies drop upgrades via randomized itemization. you will never find a better heavy greatsword +10 or a better dancer's enchanted swords +5

upgrade materials are more like twinkies and milkshakes that are gimmick weaponslot items alongside the steak and potatoes of souls gameplay

you could literally not even gain souls and people would still do these dungeons
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>>182742262
Not gaining souls in a dungeon could be seen as a good thing, since as long as you spend all your souls before going in it means you no longer have to worry about doing a corpse run if you die.
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>>182742656
dying inside instantly breaks all of your equipment

you also gain no souls
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>>182741734
>das3 dungeons are slabs, chunks, large, small, twinkling, scales, infusion gems, and souls
This is all I need.
I fucking dislike game based on "Loot" where weapon drops are part of them. Where shit like one weapon will have 110 damage while other have 102 but lower fp cost or someshit.

Even Bloodborne's Gem Farming was atrocious due to farming those 25/27% gems.
Yes, I fucking hate Borderlands, and disliked Darksiders 2.
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>>182741970
just sun sword and alva armor
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Is it scummy to glitch a carthus rouge buff on my avelyn when I invade?
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>>182742860
post a youtube video of what it does and then ill let you know
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>>182742824
you're the armor dude from yesterday? cool man. and fuck getting cornerfucked by alonne. camera screwed me
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>>182742892
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKYFb9fDdN0

I believe this is the same glitch used in the sgdq DaS3 run
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>>182742860
>>182742892
>>182742938

looks pretty cool. go for it
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>>182742773
you never need to farm titanite, you can buy them from the shrine handmaiden after you get the correct ashes. And how many infusion gems do you really need? The game gives you plenty
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>enemy has an attack that comes out near instantly and has to be instantly rolled to be avoided but also has an attack that's designed to roll catch you if you rolled instantly
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>>182739756
Nobody plays that garabage and it has a worse invasion system than Bloodborne.
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>>182743386
This got old really fast on 3.
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>>182743386
Pontiff is probably the best example of this
>captcha:required mariachi
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>>182742860
>Is it scummy to glitch
Yes. But are you really going to let that stop you?
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>>182742262
>>you could literally not even gain souls and people would still do these dungeons

For about a week or two until the novelty wore off. People want a motivation carrot.
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Is SL33 and +4 still good for co-op/invading or is it shit?
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>>182743386
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>>182742262
>in nioh, enemies drop upgrades via randomized itemization
>>182744606


I think DS3 should've had Bloodborne's gem system to make the loot drops worthwhile because it provided the long-term motivation needed for Chalice Grinding (fucking nobody would be doing FRC Dungeons if it weren't for the top gems) but the problem with THAT is that the game was held back by the expectation of it being DARK SOULS and just replacing the infusion system that's been 3 games up to that point with Bloodborne's gem system would've disappointed fans of Dark Souls.

Thankfully From is free from the shackles of Dark Souls and can do something legitimately new and interesting.
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Do i go quality or 80 dex with the farron meme sword?
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>>182746005
Quality
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>>182746005
40 dex at a lower level. Iirc str returns are minimal and the 80 dex meme only works for sharp infusion
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>>182746005
26/40 or 40/40

>>182746342
80 dex works if you have little/no strength scaling and nothing else to put your stats into.
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>beat demon souls
>mfw True King Allant
What the fuck

Between Old Monk, Astrea and the King, it felt like I am bullying disabled old people
Why are most archdemons so anticlimactic?
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>>182746648
Which is why I said lower level. Those 20-40 points aren't going to do you as good as someone else. Also, dual weapons don't get 2handing bonuses, 26/40 makes no sense for FaGS
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>>182746715
A torch carried on by DS2 : "Hit old men to sad music" edition
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>>182746715
Because atmosphere is important.
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>>182746715
something something all life in Souls games is pitiful and those who seek power end up horribly disfigured and/or cheated out of said power, something something people still play DeS? something something, post feet
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>>182746865
>post feet
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>>182746715
You don't fight the Old Monk in the Old Monk boss fight. The demon you fight is actually the yellow cloth robe, the old monk was just a vessel. And the Old Monk seemed to have died when the golden garb left him in the cutscene prior to the boss.

Old Monk was supposed to be the player summon.

>>182746857
And Bloodborne too kinda.
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>>182746857
>DS2
>not bloodborne
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Return to Lothric event when?
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>>182746715
>Why are most archdemons so anticlimactic?
Because Miyazaki was creating shadow of the collosus 2.0 and wanted you to feel like the bad guy for killing the demons

>"Hey guys wouldn't it be cool if the big hyped up arch demons were actually kinda pathetic?"
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Real PvP, anyone?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ctxtanohp7I
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>>182746857
>quelaag (woman but still)
>ceaseless
>pinwheel
>nito
>artorias
>manus

>sage
>deacons
>any LoC
>pontiff
>ariandel
>motherfucking Gael

Haven't played bb, but I think logarius, lawrence and ludwig fit the bill. It's a staple
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>>182747119
should do a DS1 through DS3 "use the same character" event.
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>>182747253
how can people possibly enjoy this?
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>>182747352

It's the ultimate test of DaS PvP skill.
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>>182747263
>logarius, lawrence and ludwig

And Gascoigne and arguably Micolash.
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>>182747263
And Gehrman
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AAAAAAAAH THAT GODDAMN PAINTING GUARDIAN IN THE HALFLIGHT FIGHT IS PISSING ME THE FUCK OFF
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>>182747437
>the ultimate test of frame-perfect abuse of shitty netcode in a game not built for pvp

Oh my god, it's like smash bros. melee, you're right this is amazing pvp
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>>182747761

That's called metagame, nothing wrong with that.
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>>182718959
sauce/full?
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>>182747917
that's not metagame, that's the actual game. It's just abusing the bad design. And even if it was "skillful" it's still extremely shallow by trivializing all other strategies.

Metagame would be if you watched pvp videos of your opponent to predict what strategy he was using and made a counter (but otherwise sub-optimal) build on that prediction, getting a competitive edge by using information outside of what is available from just playing the game.

DS1 pvp is extremely shallow and unrewarding as a form of entertainment, and people only do it because they already invested way too much effort into it already and they might as well capitalize on the attention it gets them.
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>>182748406

Yes it is, an unintended minigame inside the game, a metagame. It's fine if you don't like it but don't dismiss the skill of these players. The PS3 forest still has a high concentration of good players.
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>>182748560
>Yes it is, an unintended minigame inside the game, a metagame.

That is literally the opposite of what a metagame is.

>Metagaming is any strategy, action or method used in a game which transcends a prescribed ruleset, uses external factors to affect the game, or goes beyond the supposed limits or environment set by the game

The netcode, bugs, exploits, glitches, etc. are within the environment of the game, like you said, they're a "minigame inside the game". Metagaming uses information that only exists OUTSIDE the game to inform your choices, like what you know about the other player. Slapping your brother's controller when playing a splitscreen game is metagaming. Picking oddjob every time in goldeneye or tumblebuffing your sword is not.

>It's fine if you don't like it but don't dismiss the skill of these players. The PS3 forest still has a high concentration of good players.
I'm not saying they aren't skilled. They are definitely skilled at those few tasks, they practiced them a lot and they can pull them off flawlessly. But that effort is completely wasted and should not be held in high esteem or followed as an example.

It's like someone who put 30 years of practice into mastering E.T. the game. Value their skill at a distance, don't go pretending that's an ideal, good, sane or rational way to play video games. The only reason that stream exists is for easy clickbait and ego stroking, it adds nothing to the game and there's no additional depth, challenge, or entertainment that wasn't figured out and recorded 5 years ago.
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>>182748909
>Metagaming is any strategy, action or method used in a game which transcends a prescribed ruleset, uses external factors to affect the game, or goes beyond the supposed limits or environment set by the game

Yeah, you're not allowed to use cheats. We wouldn't get anywhere if everyone just used CE would we? The game, Dark Souls, gives us the rules, no matter if they're intended or not. You're arguing against yourself here. The information about builds and pvp tech exists outside the game, and creates a new way to play the actual game against each other.
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Are you supposed to do anything after giving that girl the blood of the dark soul?
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>>182749890
kill her
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>>182749890
no that was literally the ending of the franchise lol
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>>182749987
Wow thats kinda disappointing. Gael was a pretty good fight but it felt a bit too easy to be the final boss, especially compred to Freide
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Looking to buy Dark Souls, or Dark Souls 2 for PC/Steam, looking to pay equivalent to sale price/trade
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>>182750659
>he missed a month and a half of sales
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>that durability drain on Old Whip
Ahh I just wanted to have fun
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>>182750336
>Gael was a pretty good fight but it felt a bit too easy to be the final boss, especially compred to Freide

Friede was just bullshit honestly
>haha let me shit out a new health bar xD after two phases so all damage you did to me prior doesn't matter
>haha let's hide Friede in the second phase behind Ariandel so she can hit you through Ariandel xD
>haha let's make Ariandel cause the fps to plummet so your performance goes to shit xD
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>>182750863
>haha let's make Ariandel cause the fps to plummet so your performance goes to shit xD
>playing on a toaster/console
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>>182750807

It will last longer if you limit your framerate to 30.
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>>182750863
>>182750929
Ariandel ran better than 80% of DS3 for me, what's wrong with your PC? I think the only place that had better framerates for me than AoA was Grand Archives.
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>press L1 with parrying dagger
>block
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>>182751028

That's dumb, at least the rapier can parry.
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>>182750807
>he can't reach 15 int for Repair sorcery or just buy a lot of repair powder, meaning he has
absolute dogshit elemental defenses
>he can't use the bracing knuckle ring

Did you forget which game you are playing for some reason? It's your own fault for not dealing with the low durability.
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>>182750863
That painting guardian in the halflight fight is the biggest piece of bullshit in the whole goddamn game. Worse than friede.
>lmao I have poise and you don't
>unzips hyperarmor spin attack for 3/4ths of your health bar
>hyperarmor heal the boss's entire health bar back
>hyperarmor heals health bar back
>spawns twice
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>>182750806
Dark Souls wasn't on sale, and I was too stingy to buy 2 at the time.

honestly regret not picking up 2 on the sale.
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>>182751015
>>182750929

I play on the PS4 because muh Bloodborne.
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>>182747253
So this is DaS1 PvP taken to it's logical conclusion.

People have unironically defended this.
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>challenge Yhorm with Siegward
>run around him to get the memeruler and equip it
>turn around and Siegward ist fucking dead

Holy fuck I have never had this before, usually he is almost invincible.
The fight was more fun though.
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>>182747253
>Muh backstab tech guys XD
>muh true PVP
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>>182747253
The best thing about DS1's pvp were jblackmel's videos
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>greatswords should only be used 2 handed, they said
>the 1 handed moveset is shit, they said

muh poise
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>>182752765
https://youtu.be/5T198rMCG18
What's goin on guys, this is Martyrs Brigade 99. Comin to you with another session of Darksouls PVP
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>>182751357
It's definitely worth $12, let alone bundled with Hyper Light Drifter like it was for all of June.

The narrative is also largely self-contained (unlike the direct progression from 1 to 3), so it's not a bad start-off point for the franchise.
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>>182752793

Just look at this fucking bullshit how is this allowed? Why even bother using a fucking mace?
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>>182753002
I'm new to PC gaming, but I didn't see it on the Steam sale.

I shouldn't say new, just been on console since 2010~, but PC gamed before that.
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>>182753115
Because this game's shitty netcode makes everything a trade, meaning having poise lets you follow up with another hit.
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>>182753620

It's really not bad unless you connect to china or russia or australia, shit like that. On PC at least, can't speak for PS4 but I've heard it's way worse for those guys.

If I see the host is laggy as fuck I often just crystal out, see that their steam profile says china, and block them. No big deal.
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>>182753851
Wait, blocking people on Steam stops people from connecting in DaS3?
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>>182752793
the problem with greatswords is that every fucking greatsword is outclassed completely by the black knights sword, because it has the best balance of length and moveset of any weapon with the perseverence weapon art. the mace would legit be good if it had any range whatsoever, but its barely better than a dagger.
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While we're talking about shitty netcode
>july 2017
>fog gate phantom bug still not fixed
>still no massive announcent in the notes that pop up when you start up the game to wait at least 20 seconds if you summon a phantom in front of a fog
>people still don't black crystal out if they can't get into the boss fog
Why is this a problem in this game but not in 1, 2, BB or DeS? What exactly is preventing them from fixing it?
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>>182754059
Yes. It works on PS4 too. It's the best way to prevent gank squad shitters from re-summoning their phantom buttbuddies.
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>>182687631
>Darkwraiths
>Lothric Knights
>Ringed Knights
>Anything near Pontiff
Just off the top of my head. I mean, there are as many "fun" mobs in DS3 as any other Souls game
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>>182753501
it was on humble bundle, not steam sale.

Humble, Gog, and Steam trade sales of the souls games all the time every 3-4 months.
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>>182699939
I played the entire game with it after first obtaining it on my initial playthrough (including both DLCs). If you're into Greatswords it's a lot of fun and definitely a hipster-tier sword (if you're into that)
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>>182754298
Back in my day, I bought Counter-Strike at the store, and put in my CD-Key on Steam from the box.
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>>182754846
>he didn't download Counter-Strike for free to use with his copy of Half-Life
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>>182755038
>Half-Life
sorry, I actually had friends, and we just wanted to LAN counter-strike.
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>Doing the Ashes of Ariandel DLC for the first time.
>DUDE, CRABS THAT TAKE OFF OUTRAGEOUS CHUNKS OF YOUR HP BAR, LMAO.
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>>182754152
You realize that it's not a "bug"?
Some bossfights don't start until the host initiates the combat with the boss or aggros them. If the host goes to Wolnir for example, the boss fight doesn't start until they get succed into the abyss thing AND wake Wolnir up.

It was the same in Bloodborne with some bosses like Rom, you can't enter the bossfog until the host goes to hit Rom and makes him hostile.
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>>182755158
>sorry I actually had friends
Lmao xd epic comeback, faggot.

Counterstrike was a free mod for years before you could buy CS from the store without having to get Half-Life first you retard.
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>>182755314
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>>182755335
lmao you're wrong, the fog gate bug is when the host "press X/A to enter fog" steps through and the phantoms in the world can't. in DS3 if you are stepping through the fog, the boss instantly aggros with the only exception being the curse rotted greatwood.
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>>182755335
That's not at all what I mean and I'm a little bit offended you thought I was that much of a retard. My fault for not explaining properly though.

When you load into worlds belonging to people on the other side of the world/with bad connections etc there is a period of time where nothing in their world animates properly. They slide around without walking, and so do their enemies. If they enter the boss fog in such a state it won't trigger the "Critical battle can now be accessed" prompt and you won't be able to enter the fog.

The period of time people T pose for seems to be linked to their connection, but it always seems to happen. My friend and I start to animate properly after about 2 - 3 seconds, but it can take significantly longer when I connect to ruskiis etc.
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>>182755314
Those crabs are completely optional though, the only reason to kill them is if you want the guaranteed Simple Gem drop from the third one.
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>>182755449
ahhh those were the days of 1.2
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>>182755540

This.
Pontiff also doesn't aggro until you get a little closer, but the Phantoms can go immediately after the host anyway
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>>182755550
I killed them by going full aggro retard on the first, then doing them 1 on 1 was easy.
That gravetender boss was shit.
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Since DaS1 pvp is dead everyone basically goes over 100 SL, or even over 120 SL?
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>>182756181
I still stick to the 100 or 125 meta when I play because leveling beyond that just makes the game feel too easy, makes your character too unfocused, and is generally just less fun.
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>>182755541
Oh, I see now what you meant.
Thanks for taking the time to explain this,
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>>182756302
Even on NG+7?
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>>182682175
How do I respaw bosses in dks, online is kill so i cant murder bosses again the old way
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>>182755449
>playing pre 1.5

Sorry, I don't like broken shit.
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>>182756365
Yes, imo. The way scaling works in DaS1 means you'll start spreading your points out more and more. You'll get 58 str, then move on to get 45 dex, then move on to . . .

Etc. Having max stats isn't fun either. People try to say it will give you the most variety, but really it just leaves you with one weapon that is better than any other.
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>>182756626
Collector's Edition.
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Desert Pyromancer cosplay character, realizing that whips are kind of terrible. How do I whip better, and why pyromancies aside from Flame Fan should I be using?
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What's the point of having a Darkmoon hav his duty fulfilled by killing a Dark Spirit but not by killing Aldritch Faithfuls? Found it kinda jarring how I got removed of the game for killing a Dark Spirit while 2 Aldritch were beating up the Host.
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>>182756365
Iirc ng nexts aren't particularly brutal in 3 so it doesn't really matter, unless you were already struggling to begin with
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>>182757286
Witch locks
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>>182757286
Witch's Locks, and Vestiges. Zoning spells like Floating Chaos and Seething Chaos if you want to be a dick.

>>182757374
U rike?

>>182757483
It's a good thing that he was asking about DaS1 then, and not DaS3.
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>>182757583
My point still stands :^)
I noticed right after, fug
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>>182757530
>>182757583
Thanks. Now for the real question: How tanned should a Desert Pyromancer be? And should muscle be a thing?
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>>182757895
Tanning is completely up to you, but it might end up looking unnatural since the face will also be tanned despite being under a veil. And the base model already has a decent six-pack, any more than that just ends up looking like a bit too much, especially on a squishy caster.
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For a poison twink build, do I infuse with poison or raw with resin? Is spotted whip any good or fun?
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>>182758116
Yeah good point. I'll save the Musclemancer for another day.
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>>182757895
A desert Pyro should be extremely pale.
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>master is censored in DaS2
Dumb censors and 14 character limit come on damn it
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>>182758381
Why? You live in the desert?! You should be as tan as a guy from Aladdin
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>>182758734
>>182758734
>>182758734
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What is the comfiest Souls game?
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