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I will show you a monster edition

What's new?

>Stukov confirmed; Starcraft Support; Now LIVE
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20886131/
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/heroes/stukov/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBBUVUmzxKk&feature=youtu.be [Embed]

>Sun's Out, Guns Out Summer Event and Sweepstakes; Now LIVE
>New summer themed skins, mounts, and sprays
>Event ends the week of July 24th
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20838724/
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20852963/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAolE6W_l9I&feature=youtu.be [Embed]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RNtPcvCf8Q&feature=youtu.be [Embed]

>Heroes of the Storm 2.0
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20695700/
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/heroes20/

>For New Players
>Welcome to Heroes of the Storm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPk004vsjuE&feature=youtu.be [Embed]
>Official Community Resources, Guides, and Tips
>Talent Calculators, Statistics, Youtubers, and more
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/guides-resources/
>Tier lists are effective guidance tools, but should never be blindly followed
http://www.heroescounters.com/map
http://www.robogrub.com/tierlist
http://www.tentonhammer.com/articles/heroes-of-the-storm-tier-list

>Current Weekly Sale
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20881852/weekly-collection-update-july-11-18-2017-7-11-2017
>Current Weekly Brawl
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20888404/
>Current Patch Notes
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20888403/

>Where can I find GM players stuck in plat?
"/join /vg/" in game chat

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Who is the Vi of Heroes?
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What heroes did nothing wrong?
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>>182681647
Doomfist
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>>182681647
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>>182681709
You know it
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>day 773
>still no qt alexstraza
>still no qt draenei waifu
>still no qt battleguard sartura
>still no qt onyxia
>still no qt dreadlord jaina
>still no qt naga waifu (vashj or azshara, not picky)
>still no qt illidari wifu
>still no qt cydaea
>still no qt andariel
>still no qt sombra
>still no qt 4 armed bitch from burning crusade
>still no qt inquisitor whitmane
>still no qt blood raven
>still no qt maevshadowsong
>still no qt ysera

zagara and kerrigan are the hottest characters in the game
why even life?
screw this, i'm going back to monster grill quest
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>That wonderful moment when enemy just gives up chasing you and let you destroy their forts\keeps for free as murky\zagara\azmo
some people just want to see the structures burn
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Stukov goddammit will you stop pushing the enemy to safety
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>>182681647
I'd say it depends on what you like about Vi, but The Butcher has her ult on a basic ability.

>>182681891
>no snek
>no goat
>no rat
>no spider
nice game eh
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>>182681891
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPC9yAM9OEo
>not going back to anime
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he is always watching
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>>182682004
>enemy on the on backline
>nobody in position to kill him
>autist gets triggered because you shoved him while he was half health
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What's a good Xul build now?
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>>182682370
>xul
pick a good spec instead
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>>182682764
I thought he was supposed to be half decent since his rework?

Either way I'm like 2 games off level 5 with him
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>murky literally impossible to kill solo with healing bubble and big tuna kahuna

why
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Did you pick Nova?

Did you use your basic attack?

If you said YES to both...

Congratulations! You're not a brain-dead Nova.
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>>182683106
>1v1 relevant post level 20+
Are you retarded?
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FEEL
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>>182683186
>Murky is solo pushing
>I'm the only one that wants to deal with it
>Team feels I should be able to deal with it solo

kinda? yeah?
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>>182683251
Most heroes can handle Murky 1v1, unless they're retarded or incredibly not suited for the task, they just can't trade efficiently, but depushing a lane is trivial
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>>182682967
Time your scythes with root armor reduction.
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post lewds
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>>182683460
I was Zera and didn't have rewind yet, although I'm not sure even with rewind I could burst him fast enough to make sure he didn't bubble. If I had fast as hell clicks maybe
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>>182683607
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>>182683250
THE
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>go on Netflix
>theyre making anime with Varian
What did they mean by this
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>>182683963
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>>182684116
castlevania is not warcraft but i have to agree, i had to double check
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>>182683753
>heart pupil
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>>182683494
>taking the scythe talents
B U N G A
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>>182684952
>taking skeletons that will break apart in a single aoe in case you teamfight in a lane
Scythe talents are amazing zone control and a good nuke.
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>>182682967
He's better, but not like he's godly now.

Pick W build if you want to be useful out of lane, other builds are for being a lane bully/pusher.
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>>182683607
I remember this ass being bigger, did they nerf it?
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>>182685186
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQzp6ge610c
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>>182683963
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guess who got thrown under the bus a lot
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>>182681558
oh hey someone saved my fucking awful shop
neat
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>>182685581
>Lowest XP contribution by far as Dehaka
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>>182685581
UNGA
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>no email about epic lottery prizes

s-surely theyre just delayed and ill have it tomorrow haha

>>182685581
which map? also you need to stop dying and start soaking
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>>182684952
The new scythe talents are pretty cool. You can use the scythe, mount, and then the others two will follow you a long path
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>>182685581
Looks like you were usually first in, first out.
Don't pick a tank next time.
Also, LOL at Nova leeching off of team fights.
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>>182683607
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>stukov is out
>he's not a summoner

reeee I wanted to spread my infestation
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>another fucking aram brawl

all random is shit and always will be shit, stop tying my fucking loot chests to it blizzard
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>>182686654
They should have more all one hero brawls.
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>>182686813
10 Alaraks arena pls.
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>>182686861
Rite of Rakshir always active
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>No event rewards for the second week in a row
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What's to stop people from creating hundreds of accounts for the sweepstakes?
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>>182683797
BONER
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Valla is a hero that fits in any comp and is never a bad pick right? Any other heroes like this?
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>>182687518
nova
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so how did Stukov turn out? Fun healer?
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>>182687518
Uther.
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A lesson in never giving up
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>>182687291
OF
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>>182687637
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>>182686813
that sgt hammer brawl on ToD a few weeks ago owned, yeah
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Go big or go home
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Stukov's w sure is wonky. I don't know how it released like this but the projectile seems to be a lot smaller than the indicator would have you think.
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>>182687887
Good stuff. Looks like I have to buy him and show these fucks how it's done.

sorry to everyone who ends up in games with me
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>>182687637
Unwieldy. His Q has travel time and no instant healing, he has to immediately follow up with his D to get a rapid single-target heal, and that's non ideal because he wants the healing toxin to spread a bit, so he needs to preheal and hope he prehealed in time.
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Question to all the 'muh statistic winrates'-babbies, I pose a question:

Do you think Butcher is a great hero?
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>>182687761
TYRANDE
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>>182687654
>F
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>>182688432
I think Butcher is a fantastic hero who is, sadly, easily countered. However, when his counters are not on the field, he riots and feasts like a rampaging demon.
Thus, he is an absolutely trash first pick hero and an absolutely godlike last pick hero.
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>Genji
>99% pick+ban rate
>60% winrate in HGC
>Too weak, we shall buff him

Nice blizz logic
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>>182688450
TY RAN DUH
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>>182688587
>he
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>>182688450
how big is her dick?
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>>182688403
He's actually pretty fun. He just isn't that good if the other team knows how to focus people.
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>>182688494
You cant launch nukes on that map
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>two games in a row where one teammate spergs out super early for seemingly no reason and intentionally feeds the entire game
Boy this is fun.
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>>182689178
then what is your W bound to then?
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>>182688494

What about it?
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I swear I did not understand Gul'Dan at all and thought he was boring as shit when I first tried him

now that he's on rotation again I fucking love him, I'm going to spend my last 10 gold on him. You just rain hell from behind your tanks and he counters almost all pushes from characters like Zag and Azmo with two Q's
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>>182688950
Bigger that tychus
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>>182689404
>rain hell
surely you dont mean rain of destruction
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>>182689404
>a wild Genji appears
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>>182689719
no I mean just spamming your fart flames at people

>>182689723
>genji
nerfs when
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>>182689820
>nerfs when
never, they need a baby sitter for the over watch shitters
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COMPETITIVE GAME
WITH
FUCKING
LOCUSTS
AND
BLOODLUST
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Hi everyone! Just posting a few cute facts about my waifu, Diablo!
>she's wide!
>the WIDEST!!!!!
>she's extra fertile!
>she can breathe fire!!!
>she's the lord of terror!
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>people complying for Genji
>Watch Genji
>Wait until use Swift Strike
>Stun
>Genji is dead
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>>182682004

>close 2v2 with me and stukov
>enemy comes out ahead
>i manage to run to safety
>another enemy shows up to attack stukov
>stukov panic pushes one of them just to get them off him
>pushes them straight into me

this has happened like 3 times
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>>182687654
You best not be using WASD camera controls, anon.
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>>182690523
>Genji isn't a moron and doesn't swift strike into uther
>Or he only uses it to get a reset and immediately dashes out
>or he's wiping your team with dragonblade+invuln

now what
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>>182689991
>na
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>>182689991
>Anub being picked or ban literally every game
Surely they cant ignore him right? Coccoon is so strong because theyre probably balancing it off of "It COULD be countered really easily" but its still just too strong. 5 or 6 second duration and a shorter range is probably what it needs.
Also, is this the first instance of Locust Anub in pro games? I havent kept watching but I would assume so.
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Reminder of reddit karma-whoring sell-out rats: https://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/comments/4mh256/theres_a_guy_on_4chan_who_has_accurately_leaked/

https://www.reddit.com/user/SSJ5Gogetenks
>ponyfucker

They are in this thread RIGHT NOW!
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>>182690941
You do know Cocoon's been nerfed, right?
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>>182690880

?
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>>182690941
He literally just got nerfed.
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>>182690941
Anub got some heavy nerfs recently, especially to his health. Still a stun god but characters like Zul'Jin absolutely tear him a new one
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It finally happened.

>Cocoon enemy healer
>All 5 of us are around it ready to kill
>Stukov massive shoves him towards our destroyed fort
>He just mounts up and walks away
>"Lol you're a bunch of bads for not being able to follow up"
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if they don't reveal my bro kelthuzad during blizzcon, I'll quit this shitty game.
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>>182691043
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>>182691243
they don't play on current patch dummy
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>>182691243
>Abathur 90% winrate at midseason brawl

NERFS WHEN
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>>182691356
Patch didnt change much silly, coocoon needs longer cooldown and/or less health
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>want to play a little unranked to warm up
>get a 5 man team 600 levels ahead of my team
>get roflstomped despite our team not feeding and doing fairly okay
hmm. maybe match 5 mans against 5 mans? ive played against shit ones before but this is annoying
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>>182692431
If you got matched against a 5man it means you had higher MMR than them, and you still lost.
Also
>Level
>Representation of skill
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>>182692431
Player levels mean nothing
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>>182692681
only low level players say that

it's like guys with small penises saying that size don't matter
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>>182692681
means familiarity with the game but ill admit im the bunga here sorry 4chan i let you down
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>>182688587
What are his counters?
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>>182689991
bloodlust is a slightly different way to control engages. just walk away from them, as they say.

>>182692669
slightly higher
also
>mmr
>representation of skill on the character drafted
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>>182692942
not really. could just be a try hard group and you got at least a few on the "it's like qm but better!" train picking random shit. doesn't take much to swing games badly with this design.
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>>182692431
5 mans are either operator tier coordination and execution, or they're complete retards.

There is no inbetween.
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>>182681892
>that feel when they 3+ man group chases you as your minions destroy their keep.
>that feel when they have that sudden pause to hearing "keep destroyed"
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>>182692965
Proper spacing and application of CC/disengage after he brands. Usually melts without externals if he's peeled, which isn't that difficult.

also; weak early game. Like, a walking stun that can soak experience.

>counters
Tyreal
Jojo
Cassia
Uther
Xul
Brightwang

Or any sort of cc, disengage or "save". Auriel, for instance, can just doot him away, or prism his e/r target. Especially blinds.
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>>182692965
>>182693723

Tracer
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>>182693541
I really want a drawfag combining these two.
NSFW because fat and degenerate.
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>>182693903
What should he say?

>"Assassin. Assassin. I am an assassin."
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>>182694206
Not really sure,maybe some other anon has a stroke of genius.
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which one has been the best summer tracer skin?
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>>182694675
Left one obviously has a better model, please.
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>>182694675
>no bare feet
neither.
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xth for delet hanamura

>>182694675
they're both awful
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>>182694764
yeah, tracer's left
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>>182694675
left
+better model
+hair is cute
+pose is cute
-stupid cape
right
+more skin shown
-model is shit
-pose is lame
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>>182694890
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>>182694675
I like the hots one if only cause the water pistols is the perfect fucking anachronism, and makes her cute as fuck.
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>>182695134
Water pistols are obsolete in first world countries?
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>>182694973
this
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>>182692965
Any hero with reliable blind makes him useless. Lili, Artanis with AoE ult, Cassia etc.
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>>182695906
Any hero with a reliable CC of ANY KIND fucks him up.
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>>182695315
Its obsolete in a combat environment. Is there a more appropriate word than anachronism for using a fun or kids item in a supposedly combat oriented arena?
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>>182694675
>actually decent model of cute tomboy girl
>lesbian ET with squirtguns

I dunno, you tell me.
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>>182696516
I would use substitution.
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>>182696516
Its not obsolete per say, seeing it was never a combat thing in the first place.
How about its very "thematic/fitting" for summer event? Refreshing
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>>182696606
>lesbian with squirtguns
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>>182696965
>FEEEET
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0G8znfy_hs
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>>182694675
OW has better models with more polygons and resolution, so it's rather unfair to compare them directly. In terms of sheerest design, HotS has a much more interesting skin. (reserve water tanks replacing nonsensical armguards, swim goggles, Overwatch-logo trunks)
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>>182697276
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>>182696516
anachronism means something that is inconsistent with the time period it is represented in.

like if tracer were to go into combat with two muskets or slingshots instead of high-tech pistols.
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>>182683641

>Burst him so fast he can't bubble

This is where you fucked up. You force the bubble just with regular ability usage and then re-engage. Even with 2 healthpools Murky is about as durable as wet paper.
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>>182697525
Yeah but, water pistols are now high-tech?
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Cheers love! The ____ is here!
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>>182697525
To add on this anon, Mcree is anachronistic for instance. Maybe cowboy Valla in some weird sense? Amazon Nova? Starcraft characters on horses?
>>182697736
Theyre not weapons. Also you could put futuristic super aids into super soakers with additives that makes skin absorb stuff and go murderhobo in Shadowrun.
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>>182697978
Dyke.
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>>182697978
Meme pick
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>>182697978
Promotions!
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>>182698205
>Shitman
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>>182697978
arse
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>>182698205

>having this
>saving this
>posting this
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>>182698205
solid 4 inches
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>>182698006
fair enough i suppose. I still feel is slightly anachronistic, but i can fully understand your point of view. I should have used a different word I guess.

Regardless, the water pistols are more fun, hence, the hots costume is better.
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If I'm new does it matter if I actually have friends or not to play with. That XP bonus seems pretty good.
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>>182698703
Well left one was for summer games so no watery goodness there.
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>>182698714
Lots of people just invite randoms for the party bonuses. I solo queue because I hate myself.
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>>182694313
>>182693903
He should have "Prime evil" scrawled all over him.
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>tfw will never get to go down on Tracer
that loading screen at startup really isn't helping
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>>182699076
She's a carpet muncher. She wouldn't let your creepy ass touch her nerd.
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>>182699064
>He should have "Prime evil" scrawled all over him
10/10
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>>182699250
>implying her consent was ever relevant
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Damage from towers, keeps, forts, and minions is physical damage right?
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>>182699567
Yeah they count as auto attacks for all abilities/armor.
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>>182699076
just find a cosplay slut
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>>182699567
Yes. Block effects typically only function against heroic sources, though. Conversely, dodge functions will make you evade them entirely.
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>>182699707
>Forces you to play Overwatch with her

No thanks.
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>that bonk sound when you hit someone with your bucket as bikini stitches
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why does quickmeme match you against a 5 stack? Come on. It's just a waste of 20 minutes.
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>>182700286
>He hasn't beaten 5-man premades before
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>>182700286
Yeah for the 5 stack
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>>182700286
I've beaten more 5 mans than lost to. Usually it's just 5 idiots grouped together for the xp boost.
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>>182700579
Yup,just like us in /vg/ chat.
Meeting proper group vs pub group is fucking brutal.
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>>182700452
>>182700516
>>182700579
How it's just a bunch of uncoordinated clowns vs a bunch of kids on discord playing as a team?
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>>182700703
Your first mistake is assuming 5-mans aren't also a bunch of uncoordinated clowns.
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>>182700703
>queue 5-stack with bunch of silver-gold wow friends
>everybody on the other team is diamond
>at least two people won't get in voice
>shitty meme picks they can't play

the grass is always greener etc etc
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>>182700743
>>182701041
Fair enough. I'll try to keep my head up.
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>>182700703
Dude 99.9999% of the time I'm in a 5-man I am not in any sort of communication with the other dudes, we're only here for party EXP or for an event quest.
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Who is good on Mines? Just anyone with bribe?
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>>182700265
Feel accurate to the damage output.
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>>182701673
elf slut sylvanas
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>>182701673
>mines
>bribe
no you jackass
you need heroes who can clear skull camps quick or solo take camps

Bribe sucks dick on this map because every single camp is 2-3 units and there's only 2 lanes, takes forever to get stacks.
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>tfw you want to take Flailing Swipe just to hear "I WILL SHOW YOU A MONSTER!" instead of "[normies] get out [reeee]"
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>>182701673
Pick Nova, enter the mines by yourself, take 15 seconds to kill one camp of skeletons then die to 5 enemies and say "wtf team why no help".
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>hop into qm
>nobody soaking
>nobody getting obj
>flame me and report me when I ask them if they can try to soak all the lanes
fuck this, i swear i'm just gonna start playing autistic splitpush heroes to get back at these fags.
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>>182701961
So do it? It's fine if you don't take the 20 """upgrade""".
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I love it how in quickmeme people expect everyone to be 100% ranked tryhard and point out slightest mistake and when they fuck up and you tell it to them they say "hey it's just quickmatch".
And even worse, when they start you to blame for their own mistakes. Right now I was playing Stukov on that John Cena map and we had 3 dead and 1 Tychus alive while enemy team were 5. So Tychus wen't to contest (!) it and blamed me after he died (of course) because I went to push other lane instead of dying with him
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>>182702420
so basically every single bunga team poster?
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Wtf happened to Warcraft's lore
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why are QM shitters so bad at dealing with smash Varian?
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>>182702589
I'm pretty bad at dealing with smash Varian when he's on my team.
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>>182702589
they are so confused and bamboozled that its not twinblades
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>>182702705
well you suck then buddy
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>>182683494
Don't go poison nova, it is the worse ultimate. Its damage per second is lower, it has a big windup that can make it miss and it doesn't fucking slow people.
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>>182683607
love her ... lover her
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>Gold
>Draft
>Ask Tyreal to change to different tank
>"I don't have any more tanks, I main Asassins"
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>>182698205
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>Last pick
>"Please get a tank and Healer before it gets to me so I can counter pick well"
>"lol you just don't want to heal"
>Last pick, the potentially most countering pick available is always relegated to picking the healer

Such is life in gold bronze
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>>182703872
>>182704137
If these two posts aren't just the same unga whining about stupid bullshit you two should start dating and queue for TL instead and totally carry people there.
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>>182703320
>tyrande will never make you her pusy slave
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>>182704262
>Unga
What is this forced meme I've been seeing the last 3 days?
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>>182704561
A few lol shitposters are forcing it.
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>>182704561
So far I have inferred it to be caveman speak for saying you're not on beat with your team, you performed an action (which seemed logical to you) and they performed a different, incompatible option (which seemed logical to them) and thus all were foiled.
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Cheers anon!
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>>182701673
Gaz can solo two skely spawns at once faster than many can capture one spawn, capture camps, solo boss, or push lanes.
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>>182705287
Wheres the cock version
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>>182705287
If I shot jizz into her chest time thing, what do you think would happen?
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>>182706214
it splatters all over past tracers face
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>>182684952
>>182685087

Looking at winrates I was surprised to see that triple scythes is a big winner on it's tier, but that the one at four is a big loser. Since you'd think you'd want talents that synergize and all.
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>>182687654
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>>182706651
It's probably fucked and mixing new winrates with the old talents'.
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>>182700265

It's kinda cool and all, but it does play a part in me not using the skin.

That and the poor dog
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>gilly today
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>>182707043
Chef Stitches is the only real Stitches.
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>>182707036

I'd filtered by current patch. It probably is that jailors is just that important.
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Lunara: I Poison you for 300 damage!
Varian: I parry the Poison.
Lunara: W-what? You can't it's already inside your vein-
Varian: I. PARRY. THE. POISSON.
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>>182707190
Psycho is the only one with pants, I don't know if any other skin contests.
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>>182706925

What?
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>>182707356

>Varian flexes and the poison shoots back out of the wound.
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>>182707190
The real question is do you use Piggie or Green cloud, so you can fly around on Stitches farts?
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>>182707507
I use Butcher's Beast while saving up a couple more hundred shards for sad cloud.
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>>182707598
>Shadshit
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>>182707279
You mean on Hotslogs? Because his talents are all messed up there still. Wait a few days.
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>>182707482
"You will be known as the king who died for Nothin-"
PROTECTED
Guldan: "Urrrghh..... YOU WILL BE REMEMBERED as the King who died for NOTHI-"
PROTECTED
"rrrrRRRAAAARRRGHHHH- REEEEEEE"
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>>182707598
>futa
>shad
>referring to a penis as feminine
Have you considered suicide?
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>>182707356
>DM's face when Varian rolls a 20 on the poison parry
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>>182708456
no, but you should for not appreciating shadgod and the glorious feminine penis, the single greatest thing to ever exist.
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Is it advisable to go twin blade or perhaps smash if Malth and Thcus and the main enemy damge dealers and you are the only tank?
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>>182709973
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>>182709973
Taunt you bunga
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>>182702504
Exactly. If they cry about their team they shall shut the fuck up, what do they expect from quickmeme, 1000 apm players?
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Cool.
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>>182709973
>twin blades
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>>182710526
I expect them to understand the basics at least. Experience has shown that is rarely the case though. I cant count the number of times people didn't even realize an objective was up.
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>>182710652
>tfw no sweepstakes on any of my 4 smurf account
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>>182710652
>tfw still not feeling the heat
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>>182710858
Yeah, neither. They probably have something in place to prevent vulture accounts from shitting the contest up. Got 5 chests on main account last week and nothing since.

>>182707598
delet
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>>182710652
Do you need to check your mail for chests? Or will they just appear in game?
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>>182711243
I got my chests on Thursday, before I even got the email. Came out of a game and they were just there. Didn't have to relog or anything.
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>>182707356
>>182708276

>reaper's mark
>no one escapes from dea-
>PROTECTED
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Protected was a mistake.
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>>182708276
>>182711412

>PROTECTED
Mada mada!
>PROTECTED
>PROTECTED
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>>182711617
AGAIN!
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I roll to deal 210 damage to your hero and crush your PROTECTED
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>>182702420
it's just quickmatch is alright to a point but i've seen THE dumbest fucking human beans ever in it like how do people not understand the extreme basics or even TRY to win the game to any degree. why play to get steamrolled for 20 minutes because you're high or an idiot? just go to AI at that point
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>>182711736
I agree with you, I often meet people with level 1000+ who play like absolute retards. They even have the nerve to blame you for their incompetence in QUICKMATCH while you are like level 100 and still doing better than them.

How did those fuckers even get to level 1000, did they really only play vs bots the whole time before?
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>Enemy core gets bought down to 4 fucking percent as we all in the enemy
>Thrall is beating his dick against their one fort instead of being with us
>"okay whatever we'll just regroup and all in it again"
>on the way to core with 2 enemies dead
>Thrall: "We should enlist the aid of these mercenaries! :D"
>By the time he's fucking done with it they've respawned and we're retreating from a 4v5
>lose

IT DOESN'T FUCKING MATTER IF YOU GET THE MERCENARY CAMP IF YOU CAN LITERALLY END THE GAME
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ME

UNGA

TEAM

BUUUUUUUUUUUUUUNGGGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>182712105
I honestly don't know if they're just playing to not care or if they're actually that bad.

Though as a reminder, you could, theoretically get to level 1000 with a 0% winrate. Winning isn't needed.
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>>182712736
Someone explain me please this unga bunga meme I'm new
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>>182709973
>twin blade against Malthael
What? He's going to out damage and sustain you.
Okay I'm gonna be honest I don't know what anyone is supposed to do about Malthael in a duel. (Except Butcher, because nobody duels the Butcher.) The only actual answer to Malth seems to be "get a buddy because he can only outperform one dude at a time".
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>>182713130
Mortal strike.

>>182713096
It's basically comparing your teammates to cavemen while you, yourself are a caveman not realizing that you're part of the problem.
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Reminder to filter cancer.

/unga/i;boards:vg;stub:no
/bunga/i;boards:vg;stub:no
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>>182713096
Forced lol meme, when someone post how a team mate did something stupid the retarded kids jump with "me unga team le bunga bros xd"
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>>182713494
Someone's butthurt they weren't allowed to blog about their epic QM loss.
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>>182713412
>>182713096
it's a /lolg/ meme that has become an overused response to anyone complaining about their teammates
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>>182713589
This

ass-cratered qm kids bitching about their dunning-kruger and shitting their insides out when called out on their niggery
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>>182713096

the general template is
>i do normal thing
>team does retarded thing
>wow my teammates are so bad guys

hence
>me unga
>team bunga

90% of said posts are lacking in anything worthwhile to say and most of the time the poster is equally retarded, hence the ungabunga. it's also referred to as blogposting. they say it a lot in /lolg/ but i don't know if that's where it originated.

this meme rundown was brought to you by anon, feel free to rate and subscribe for more quality (you)s.
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>>182713776
Back when I went to /lolg/ we just replied to those with the Warwick pasta but I guess this works too.
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>>182713412
>>182713563
>>182713687

Ah thanks, now I understand. So it's just implying after someone said that he carried and others fucked up that both sides were shit including the poster
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>>182713861
>So it's just implying after someone said that he carried and others fucked up that both sides were shit including the poster

No, lets said someone in your team went and feed 5v1 before a tribute and you make a post about it, they lol shitposters will spam me unga team bunga because they are too stupid to read the post.
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>>182713990
>Buttblasted blogposter is also a Mexican with broken English

Surprise.
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>>182714117
u mad?
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>>182713589
literally all unga bunga posting does is shit up the thread even more so now we have blogposts and "me unga team bunga am i fitting in yet"
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>>182714149
still doesn't shit up the thread as much as the blogging itself though
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>>182713130
Do things that cut his healing, or take heroes that ourange him, or thinks that kill him faster than he can kill him.

Malthael thrives on unforced errors and long fights. Shit that 'literally cannot be fucked up' like using tychus trait and rightclicking on malthael absolutely ruins him.

Valla is also reasonably strong against malthael.
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>>182714361
no actually I prefer the slight variance in blogposts than literally the exact same phrase repeated every time

I have no idea what the fuck unga bunga posting is supposed to accomplish, it's like someone shitting on your doorstep so to get back at them you take a shit on your door step on top of their shit
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>>182714370
I remember last time I faced a Malthael as Tychus he couldn't do anything.
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>>182714558
>I have no idea what the fuck unga bunga posting is supposed to accomplish

making the person they're replying to really angry that their fascinating story about a brazilian sonya engaging 1v5 isn't actually interesting or worthy of discussion

and apparently it's really successful

if you prefer people could just start replying with "what do you want me to do about it" instead
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this faggot is on your team

what do you do?
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>>182714881
bunga unga
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>>182714881
I realize comp doesn't matter at all in quickmatch and I win the game.
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>>182715109
why are you trying to force this meme
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>>182714881
>instigates team fights
>doesn't participate until a teammate dies
>only goes after players at 50% health
Yeah, I usually stay away from whatever lane he's currently at.
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>>182714881
continue playing the game like a normal person
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May I present, the average Hammer player.
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Since starcraft thread is dead I post it here
Why the fuck did they call that guy with nickname "Scarlett" a she? It's obviously a male organism with a penis. Or were the commentators trolling the whole time? (at this SC2 championship)
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>>182716102
LE ME UNGA LE TEMA BUNGA XD
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>>182716102
>attempting to facilitate communications with silver bunga

He's too far gone.
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>>182716102
>all heroes have counters
True, but most have fewer counters or are considerably less worth countering. When I see someone firstpick artanis on battlefield of eternity I don't start screaming about how we immediately need a tychus, I just go "Oh that's annoying, watch out for swaps and don't try to duel him in lane".

With a hammer(or tassadar or tyrande or various other heroes) you lock your team into a specific style of play that they *need* to build around otherwise your team gets completely dismantled. Hammer comps do not chase, they do not do a lot of things very quickly, they zone and slow-push your team into oblivion.
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>>182716102
>i will win this argument every time
this guy is probably one of those people that wears "I'm an atheist, debate me" shirts

also how the fuck do you play hammer and not realize she's just a worse raynor in 90% of situations. You never ever want to self root yourself unless you are 100% certain is near you, and then maybe you can take a fort or wall
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>>182716102
>I win this argument every time
>muh logic
>false

Somewhat fucking tilting.
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>>182716741
tl;dr by picking hammer early you've hinged a large portion of your success on a hero that's very counterable *and* given your opponents a lot of time to counter them.

It's like why butcher/cho'galls are such monsters in QM / as a lastpick in hl/tl, but when picked early they just fall apart.
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>>182716741
>>182716913
I am reminded of the people who go "WHY IS NOVA A BAD PICK IN HERO LEAGUE, SHE IS MY WAIFU I JUST WANT TO PLAY HER (and have a team that builds around supporting me and compensating for my weaknesses)". The answer is because you have to assume that your opponents aren't retards who will do stupid shit / not punish you for doing stupid shit.

Picking nova is bad because it's making a poor decision and hoping that you don't get punished, similarly to doing splitpush sylv/gaz/hammer/azmo, It doesn't work against smart players. It'll work all the time against stupid players because they simply won't deal with it, but against good people you have to make good decisions.
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>>182717176
>tfw have lost literally every game with an azmo on my team in TL because they think their fat no mobility ass is a good splitpusher

at least zagara with minimap awareness can nydus out when she sees people disappear off the minimap, azmo is just fucked while he holds his E on a fort
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>>182717342
Azmodan *is* technically stronger right now, but he's also much worse in a fight (especially when built for splitpush). His generals are very powerful and globals (like dehaka) are frequently banned, Ragnaros is also out of the meta which improves azmo power.

With azmo the major thing is that he's almost always going to be trading his life for a structure. Zagara won't die for structures and she's much stronger with archers present (cause infest) but she doesn't have the global trait or the ability to attack structures without retaliation like lazer azmo.

Sieging wrath + black pool + generals is the 'good' azmo build (now that hanamura is 'fixed') because you can still poke a bit and 'contribute' while generating pressure via generals.
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about to buy stukov, what am I in for?
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>>182718113
A fun but not very good healer.
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>>182718354
>A fun but not very good healer.
lmao how stupid are you?
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>>182718546
I guess you know better than the people in master league.
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>>182718683
>using hotdogs as argument

HAHAHAHAHAHA! Medivh is such a bad hero right bro?
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>>182718818
Not really.
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>>182718908
both chromie and medivh had around 39% win rating before you're too stupid to understand heroes and you just go to hotslogs for le meta picks. I'm sure you will learn to think eventually.
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Reminder that the only people who get mad about ungaposting are actually bunga____
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>>182719020
The fuck you talkin bout m8? You know you can filter by league right?
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>>182719193
>had
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>>182718683
he's much more nuanced than a lot of the other healers and I expect high skill players will be able to make extreme use of him

malthael was known to be day 1 busted because he had 1 build that did 1 thing, put a shitload of mark on ppl and press all the buttons

stukov has to manage timing, positioning, difficult skillshot, even detonating his heal midair to make full use of the heal over time. He's also a lot more dependent on his teammates to peel for him, uther and malf can at least root whoevers coming for them, if he misses his arm cause tracer or genji are running circles around him he's fucked

in the weeks to come I expect some dedicated stukovs to have a consistently high winrate with him, and see some good performance at HGC
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>>182690396
w-what is this anon... what is this boner?!?!
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>>182719239
Back in april it was 53%. How many times do you want to be proven wrong?
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>>182719464
>release may 2016
you can pretend to be retarded as much as you want I don't care.
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>>182719628
Alright. Show me the proof it was 38%.
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>>182719740
What happened with the word of god hotslogs?
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>>182719807
Doesn't go back that far.
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>>182719807
>>182719850
Actually found the old page on wayback machine and it was 34% at release. Of course filters didn't work though. But what you failed to mention is that she was buffed twice in june. By july she had a 45% winrate which is where she has stayed when you include all leagues. Seems like hotslogs is pretty accurate to me.
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>>182718546

He should trend upwards, but people clearly overreacted to his kit.
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NImK4R5wEfg

There is a comment
>Every Nova player should have the text "YOU ARE IN DANGER" and "ESCAPE" flashed screen-wide regularly during a match.

So true
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>>182721597
The patch notes if you are curious.

http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20131418/heroes-of-the-storm-balance-update-june-2-2016-6-2-2016

http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20157260/balance-patch-notes-june-21-2016-6-21-2016
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reminder: it's your duty to report faggots who poison the community
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>>182722693
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubLBTZw5AZw
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>>182722693
Report Grubby so he'll get banned again
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>>182722693
>don't even get a notification

meh
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>>182716102
You'll throw harder by arguing than he will by picking Hammer. Silver means it's a perfectly good reason to pick whatever you're good with and rape face because nobody knows what they're actually doing. Fuck pro meta, it's irrelevant there because not everybody's playing at peak performance or whatever the fuck.
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>>182714881
>Kill Nova as Leah Diablo
>"NO ONE NUKES THE PRIME EVIL AND GETS AWAY WITH IT"

ah its the little things
>>
>want to play azmo without draft restraints
>get the worst maps for him consecutively
thanks qm
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>>182725000
>play qm
>complain about random shit
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>>182722693
>implying i dont throw games when shitters feed

Still not banned or silenced. Fuck you bronze faggots, you 100% deserve to lose games and I'm doing the community a favor by deranking your ass so the rest of them don't have to carry your shitty ass.
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>>182723036
This is why you are in silver you pick whatever no matter how much it fucks your team comp all in hopes the enemy is brain dead as you. Its even more amusing when you first pick or last pick heroes despite knowing very well it will go badly. Hammer isn't hard to counter any mage fucks her without much effort. The solo mentality won't get you far in a team based game.
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>>182725519
good compositions do not somehow make people suck less

getting assblasted buttmad over some rando picking someone you don't like in a video game is proof you are the true bunga in your games and deserve to lose
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>>182707356
underrated post
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>>182725632
You don't have to be mad to know someone is being stupid. Of course pick whatever I am sure you will carry hard despite probably having no tank, heals, or any real damage. Meme all you want, but don't think will improve more with it. This isn't League as much as you think it is.
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>>182716741
He also said "The only hammer counters are Chromie and Ming"
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>>182726190
>muh meta
>make someone play some meta hero they are only level 5 with
>they do shit
>lose
what difference does it make
being a tryhard in low rank is pathetic
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>>182708276
We are sorry son, your Mother Johanna, she doesn't have much time left, the cancer inside her will cause her to die

Is there anything we can do?

Soak 20 fagget
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>>182726615
This is why ranked shouldn't unlock until have a lvl 5 of each role. If you can't learn to be more open to picks you will always be stuck in your ways. I think QM fits you better so please stay there for the sake of everyone.
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>>182726841
>only people who main 27 heroes should be allowed to play ranked
forever silver m8
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>>182726615
"Nova here"

>>182726720
You need at least two of each class. Just played a game with a guy who's only warrior was Tyreal.
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>>182726958
Yes how unfortunate for you.
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>>182726958
"main"

>>>>fgg/

hell not even
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>>182726963
>second warrior is Sonya
great fix
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If you think Stukov in his current form is even remotely balanced, then you're a fucking retard.

He gets a stun, a silence, AOE damage, tankiness, a braindead heal that requires zero effort to use, AND he can buff damage.

He's easily the most bloated kit in the game right now, is abused in every single match and yet you fucking morons try and claim that he's balanced because he has no escape.

You people are what is wrong with modern gaming.
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>>182727447
t.QM only player
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>>182727505
>muh ranked play

You got an actual argument to why he's not bloated as fuck, or are you going to keep acting like the mouthbreather you are?
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>>182727618
>expecting arguments or real discussion in 4chan

lol
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Don't let your memes be dreams.

Stukov made it, KT confirmed by 3 different russians in 3 leaks since november

Maiev Zeratul skin
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>>182727447
>52% WR in Diamond+
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>>182727673
Then why are you here?
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You can remove ONE hero from the game but the downside is you can only play one hero. Who do you remove and who do you play?
I'd get rid of lucio and only play medivh.
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>>182728014
Genji
Lunara
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>>182727765
I want Maiev to be a warrior. There I said it.
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>>182727447
>zero potential for solo plays
>punishes team who don't know how to focus targets
>TWO self roots
>massive mana issues
>long as fuck CDs
>shit ults
>all the CC cried about requires comboing several long ass CDs together to get what one support could do with one spell and half the CD AND taking talents for said CC that competes with actual good output talents
>only hero in the game that gets worse after 20
>zero escape
>no cleanse
>sub 45% winrate
>b-but he's OP in qm!
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>>182727618
Are you the buttmad Hammer I played with?
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>>182728246
Beg for Mercy?
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>>182728336
the only problem is his fuckhuge heal IMO, they just need to tweak some talents a bit and he'll be fine
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>>182727765
>KT is already in dota has been for years
you have to move your lich files from dota allstairs and then put them in your hots screemshots folder and label it matzinger.jpeg.
My dad works at nintendo trust me.
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>>182728496
Heh, not quite.

What rank is that fellow?
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>>182728541
It's a fuckhuge heal on a 15 second CD.

The only issue is the talent that makes the CD 5 seconds. Too easy to do. If you nerf his output before nerfing that talent you will dumpster him unnecessarily. Not that QM heroes would understand that or anything.
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>>182728690
its one of the best heals in the game and higher levels is better than LiLi's ult
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>>182728690
that's why i said tweak talents, move some of his D power into them and he'll be in a better spot
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>>182728957
lili's ult is shit though
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>>182728686
I think masters at the moment, though I'm pretty sure GM at some point in the past.
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>>182728316
Don't be ashamed anon, I want that too.

With her WC3 kit being obviously covered by Zera, I think a "hunter" fantasy can still be applied through warrior kit. Also, night elves need a warrior for a full team (Johanna skin doesn't count) and Maiev is plenty armored.

I imagine her as a cross between Anub and Chen; a highly mobile warrior, with maybe some evasion/invulnerability frames, maybe a shield. She'd play like pre-buffs Anub: jump in, CC chain someone so he explodes from your team, mobility out, repeat.
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How are there people with like 800+ rank? How is that fucking possible?
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>>182729381
they play a lot. probably buy a lot stimpacks too.
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>>182729287
Q is blink, can be cast on an area or on enemy hero. If cast on enemy hero, Maiev jumps behind him and gains unrevealable cloak for 1 second.
W and E would be some combination of Shadow Strike and Fan of Knives.
There needs to be some synergy to give her heavy CC, like FoK stunning enemies affected by SS, or a root and Blink resets FoK cooldown
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>>182729381
By playing a lot. Stim/party helps a lot, too.

>>182729281
'Gotcha. Curious as to why reddit didn't dump all over him for being an otp.
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>>182729708
eh, beg for mercy is something of a novelty at this point.
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>be me
>queue for QM
>our team memes on their for the first 8-10 minutes
>enemy malthael goes full tilt and starts feeding
>ends the match with 0/0/13 or something
>report him anyway because even though he gave me a free win cancerous players like that deserve to be punished
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>>182730280
>implying reports do anything

the only time reports matter are if you report for abusive language. And even then, its only a silence. If they don't play HL, silence probably doesn't do anything against them.
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>Nazeebo picks Ravenous Spirit
>enemy has Stukov
>every single cast is interrupted 0.1 second after cast because of Lurking Arm
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>>182681558
>not posting angriest Alarak

KRYZAL FAK ARAM

does anyone know what the hell that actually means
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>>182730783
SC wiki says it's an affirmation of some sorts but it doesn't have a direction translation or meaning
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idea for Cho'Gall

>you can now play Cho'Gall as a single person, but only in Quickmatch
>the skillbars of both Cho and Gall appear on your screen, with Cho's bar on the bottom and Gall's bar right above Cho's
>you can also level both of their talent trees at the same time
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>>182731008
I always assumed it was a taunt or something since it's a kill line, right? God I hate stupid fantasy languages.
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>>182731301
'no'
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>>182731301
I'd just like to be able to solo queue as a head for Quick Match or Vs. AI.
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>>182731349
what's the matter, little babby can't play two heroes at once?
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>>182730783
How high can Sadism actually get? I forget if Rite of Rak'shir has a limit or not
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On a scale of 1 to trash, how much they are going to nerf Stukov next patch?
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>>182731616
731 is the limit due to rakshir..
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>>182729287
Q - Skillshot root Uninterruptible channel
W - Maivs cape hardens around her, she gains a shield, burst into fan of knives based on damage done to shield (cast-able during root channel)
E - Attacks become ranged dagger and apply stack slow

Trait - Warden's Focus, gain armor and move speed per enemy currently dead

Ult 1 - Blink Strike - Target an area, after two seconds Maiev blinks there and silences in an aoe, she can continue to act before she blinks. Long Range, can hold 2 charges

Ult 2 - Summon Avatar, Similar to Naz's ult, but , it poops out little avatar babies, hitting R again while targeting the Avatar or it's babies blinks you to them
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>>182731949
Not much, probably. His winrate is sub-50, although that might be because the average QM shitter doesn't know how to use him. If he gets buffs, I'd like a shorter CD (or possibly no CD?) on Bio-Kill Switch.
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>>182731949
I actaully feel like Stukov is pretty reasonable for a new release hero. For once.

When he's on my team I don't feel short of heals, but I don't find the enemy team invincible when he's on their's. He seems competent if played well, but I've not had that much problems with him.
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>>182732645
bad trait, better off as a talent
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>>182733396
Target an enemy - 40 second cooldown, Maeiv and Maeiv only takes 30% less damage from said enemy, but also does 30% less to said enemy

Essentially lets brush off one enemy while you hunt down your target
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how do you make a come back when the other team is 3 levels ahead and death balling You can't soak cause you die, you can't split up because you get picked. What options do you have other than hoping they fuck up and feed you.
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>>182733550
soak if safe
look for picks
hope they fuck up
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>>182733550
Have good as fuck ults and pull your team together for a final stand

If you have pusher with good escape push down a lane if you are waiting on ally respawns, hope it draws a few of them off the fuck ball

Stall stall stall and saok soak soak
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>>182729221
You better be trolling.

What's the next stupid fucking thing that's gonna come flying out of your ignorant mouth?

Raynor is bad at dmg?
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how is lili's ult even real
just stun her
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>Stukov isn't OP
>Alarak is anything but a fucking joke
>LiLi is a bad healer
>Hammer is a bad siege
>'muh Maeve'
>'muh Tyrande'
>Valeera is OP
>Kael is OP
>and a bunch of other retarded shit

You retards aren't just stupid.

You're full on fucktarded.
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>>182735349
TY
RAN
DE
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>>182735349
>Valeera is OP

I've never seen anyone here claim this, ever
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>>182726397
Tyrande does a decent job too, especially if you can follow it up with other stuns/repositions like ETC's slide, muradin or artanis swap (purifier also stops her from retard sieging frequently too).

Azmodan globes threaten her and he outpushes her anyways. Any combination of heroes that can dive hammer also do well (genji is probably the most recent go-to because of dodges and swift strikes absurd distance).

The guy was completely retarded.
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>>182735635
valeera is OP
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>build almost full heals focused LiLi
>end a garden of terror match with 89k in heals and 60k in hero damage after spamming globes and ults like they were DESU's
>Stukov on the enemy team who didn't do shit except dump his heals and run like a pussy ends the match with 110k healing, 80k hero damage
>"Stukov isn't op you fags, just stun him."

I wish I could hate most of you to death.
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>>182726963
I just had a conversation with someone who wanted to play ai xp farm games... because he wanted to get heroes to 5 for ranked. I tried to explain to him the inherent absurdity of playing 'afk draw them out AI games in order to be ready for playing against actual players" but merely got retarded shit in return. This would-be ranked player didn't seem to recognize the cognitive dissonance between being required to 'learn a variety' heroes in order to play ranked and not actually learning them in training wheel mode.
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>>182733198
Lurking arm is honestly probably one of the most powerful abilities in recent memory, and it has counterplay too. It feels strong when you're playing against it and it's used even passably well.
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>>182733057
>no cooldown on Bio-Switch
That would be beyond ridiculous. I wouldn't mind a shorter cooldown on Q itself.
His worst area is his W. It needs faster projectile speed at least, maybe a tiny increase in width, but that may be just me being a shitter. But it's so slow. It's a Dehaka tounge that doesn't even stun.
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>>182686641
Blizz likes to have each role out there and zerg was lacking a support. Stukov's the last zerg character of any real importance aside from the overmind and cerebrates of course, but nu blizz hates using old franchises so he had to take the fall.
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>>182737938
>redditors wanted "no-personality-at-all" izsha for zerg support
This. Stukov was the only zerg character left to be added into HotS, without having to go OC. And I like him as a support. He always seemed like the most backline guy from Kerrigan's crew (aside from Abathur obviously) and another spam summoner would've been redundant with Zagara and Xul in game already, not to mention just boring.
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>>182738221
worthless garbage as always
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wtf do you build on xul now, do you run the skeleton build or the W build?
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>Don't find QM fun because nobody tries
>Do ranked thinking it might be better
>Get a bunch of people who want to play it like QM
>They all scream about being only there to have fun

I don't see why people who want the QM style while playing ranked? Why is one side forced to suffer when they literally made games modes to resolve this? Both sides have their own definition of fun so why ruin it for others?
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>>182738619
Because people are bad and its an excuse for keeping up the bad habits.
Leave yer name here and il play QM with you.
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>>182703872
At least he was willing to tank.
I'm also in gold and consistently get Gul'dan's and Nova's who 'can't heal' and 'can't tank'.
This shit seriously grinds my gears to the point where I actually consider becoming a serial killer to off people this retarded and selfish. Did you just fucking think you'd ignore everyone else and play one goddam character all the way to the top? Lol who needs communication and teamwork, we have a fucking ASSASSIN MAIN here! Surely he'll fucking autolock first-pick and CARRY THE GODDAM GAME.
I'm not an average unga bunga fag, I know I can improve and do better, but some games really are lost at the loading screen due to one massive retard.
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>>182737524
Why? Traits should almost always have no or short CDs, they're a fundamental part of a hero's identity. Just cut his healing/slow to adjust for it. As Stukov is now, he's bland as hell and boring to play.

>put Q on yourself and smear it all over your idiot team
>maybe toss out a pustule
>press D while everyone's still covered
>get to a safe spot and Lurking Arm for about 16 seconds
>your retarded trait is now off CD, patch your team up and repeat the process

Literally the only part of Stukov I enjoy is shoving Genji or some other dumbass diver as far across the map as I can.
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>>182738561
shackler at 1 (unless you intend to be fighting a lot particularly against a lot of melee / tanks then you go with the giantkiller one) because its easiest to get the cooldown on it.

W cooldown reduction at 4 - most consistent and helps you most in your primary role.

Skeletons restore life/mana, It's not 'great' but it still provides a decent amount of sustain.

Skeleton mages at 10. It does more DPS and it provides a pretty nasty slow, it also doesn't have a ridiculous windup nor can it super-miss completely.

Attack speed on w at 13, Also enables your primary function of waveclearing / pushing, but enables you to rip through camps stupidly fucking quick too. God help anyone who tries to fight you in a minion wave too.

Corpse explosion at 16. Once again not great but helps out with your primary function. Cant remember what else is on this tier but none of it is that great.

Whatever the fuck you want at 20. Upgrading skeletons so you can drop ult more often is probably the best choice as your ult is *amazing*.
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>>182738861
God, people trying to ride Gul'dan/some other make out of Gold are the worst. It's ridiculous that they fear him as much as Morales just because they can't dodge his E or stun him.
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>>182738864
Someone finds Russian man unfun, but somehow thinks Lucio/Medic/BW/Li li are fun.
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>>182738864
Of course trait shouldbe a fundemental part of a hero. But why the hell would that mean low/no CD? Tyrande's Hunter's mark is her main ability, it has a regular cooldown. Heck, Ragnaros' trait is basically an ulti, balance-wise.
Stukov's heal has to be big to be interesting to use (do I use it instantly after casting Q on low ally, or do I greed and wait till Q is spread). If his heal was lower with lower CD, he'd be basically LiLi
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>>182738864
>Traits should almost always have no or short CDs, they're a fundamental part of a hero's identity.

Suddenly dehaka, falstad and abathur all over the map and locusts being shit out every 4 seconds.
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>>182681558
Malthael is the strongest off lane. Prove me wrong
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>>182739330
He gets the shit beaten out of him by other offlaners. Notably artanis and thrall.

Zul'jin also molests the fag.
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>>182739330
>best offlane
>no global
>melee
>has to win a game of tag to do anything
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>>182739056
I don't find any supports fun, it's a job for women and retards. And especially not Stukov, I don't see how you have fun doing the exact same set of actions every teamfight, with the only highlight of your miserable healbot life being shoving divers or Dva's mech away.

>>182739078
I said ALMOST everyone. Yes, Rag's is an ult, essentially, and Tyrande's is more of a spell and less of an integral part of her kit (and quite honestly would probably fit better on Maiev)

>>182739143
Want to know how I know you're an idiot? All of those are mount abilities, not traits. (And they already are too long, adding 10 seconds to Dehaka's and Fal's a couple patches ago was completely uncalled for.) Dehaka has already been harmed by having a 5 sec CD added to his previously nonexistent/1 sec trait. You'd be surprised how often you need to burn 2 piles of Essence in less than 5 seconds, and sometimes it can cost your life. Abathur's locusts already have a decently short CD in my opinion, considering they're designed to spawn along with minion waves and push the lane ever so slightly. I would like to see memeslug get a passive that's a bit more interesting, though.
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maiev is next, boys. she's going to be a bruiser with a focus on disabling enemies to help punish the influx of recent high mobility heroes.

shes coming with another wow event, this time focusing around the legion. kil'jaeden will be released right after her as part of the event as well.
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>>182739613
>>182739673
As long as you know how to use shroud and on creeps , he got pretty good sustain and can give a good trade.
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Here you go /hotsg/, one Samuro x Thrall fic coming right up
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>>182739613
>Thrall and Artanis beating Malthael ever
I've destroyed both of them
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>>182739983
but that's wrong you fucking retard, Junkrat is the next hero followed by Kel'Thuzad.
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>>182739892
>rehgar not fun
>locusts a mount ability
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>>182740194
>play Rehgar
>use like 3 abilities
>"oh shit, I'm almost out of mana, guess I gotta hearth or sit in dog form for 5 minutes"
>he still doesn't have self-cast Ancestral back
The only thing I enjoy about Rehgar is his voice design and how ridiculously hard and fast his AAs hit for some fucking reason.

>locusts a mount ability
I specified Dehaka and Falstad, although I know Abathur has a global mount. Read, nigga.
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>>182740175
thrall kicks his ass but it's a hefty tradeoff in health if both players are equally skilled
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>>182740745
>dehaka, falstad, and abathur
>all of those are mount abilities
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Abathur buffs when?
Still can't win games when my team is retarded
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>>182741114
New level 1 Abathur talent: Gigaslap

If the collective IQ of Abathur's team is less than 300 (excluding Abathur), Abathur gains 2,000 base health and 400 attack damage and Symbiote abilities are disabled.
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>>182741114
you can't improve what has no potential
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>>182741114
Stukov buffs when
>not playing with a team
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>>182741386
What the fuck is that thing?
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>>182734886
Lili's ult is bad though, you need literally one interrupt
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>>182741487
A big sea barnacle?
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>>182735349
>Healer that literally cannot target who to heal
>not bad

yeah
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>>182741487
First time seeing a vagina?
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>slowing auto attacks
>tassadar ult in base kit
>ring of frost but better

NO
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>>182741914
this kills the proudmoore
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>>182741914
don't forget
>AA while moving
>build in ice-block that is a self heal
>literally jainas Q
>manaless
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How good is stukov as a healer on a scale from 1 to 10 where 1 is tyrande and 10 is lili?
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>>182742223
12
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>lvl 90 abathur
>teams are constantly filled with idiots
Does the matchmaking just give me worse players because I'm playing a high level hero?
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>>182742069
She is literally screwing an adult dragon,nothing she cannot handle there.
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That new sonya hook update is op as fuck, she can hook niggers from across the map
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>>182742223
7
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>when you pulsebomb just right
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>leaping strike genji
>dashes across the map and puts me ass first in his team

okay
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zagara is the best waifu because she understands her sole purpose is to procreate, and she procreates very well
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>>182743227
sauce?
why is googol so bad at reverse searching cropped lewds?
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>>182743559
Its on /aco/ thread right now
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>play 8 games quest
>win 3 games quest
>5 games in, all losses thanks to horrible matchmaking
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>>182741386
what's that thing's clamping power? can you fuck it?
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>>182743845
Don't talk to me about shitty matchmaking, I just lost a match even though we had the best valeera in EU on our team

Everyone was feeding so bad that i am now morbidly obese
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So shouldn't Stukov counter both sustain and burst damage? Especially with Pox Populi at 16 you could basically ignore Lunara it seems
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>>182743492
>silenced
why so toxic m8?
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>>182735778
Thing is that LiLi is the most mana-inefficient, lowest sustain and worst burst healer there is.
She's a beginner character and because of that just fucking bad in comparison to other healers.
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>>182744434
Stukov has issues to handle burst on him per say because heal has a travel time. Smart people will dive you after the trait or just after your Q ends.
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>>182744570
>mana-inefficient
Wrong? After completing her quest she can basically stay in a fight almost indefinitely AND toss 1000 jugs on a reduced cooldown at level 20
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>>182742223
Are you asking us to place him on a bell curve where 1 is awful and 10 is also awful? but 5 is amazing?
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YOU
FIGHT ME
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>>182744669
Someone went through all the math when Stukov was released.
There are worse healers than her in Morales, who puts out like twice the healing in comparison, and Uther, who is not a sustained healer which is why I disregarded him.
I'm not sure if he factored in talents at all, but baseline and just spamming off cooldown, she's pretty bad.

https://heroeshearth.com/b/chaosos/read/math-of-the-storm-stukov/
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1SWkKyuIScyNGDfjKyxW5a6Zry9WaH_FCvl_Va117_fk/edit#gid=0
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>>182744734
Oh i see you are new to the game, basically tyrande is the worst healer in the game and lili is by far the best
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>>182744669
>>182744806
You pick Lili because
1.Heals are good
2.She is good at running and can survive alot of bullshit
3.She has an aoe clutch heal ult
4.Blinding physical teams
>>182744829
Auriel is best imo, followed by Uther.
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Tyrande is an assassin who just happens to have a small self sustain, stop labeling her as a "healer"
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>>182744915
Sure, but in comparison to other supports healing numbers, she's bad because her healing output is lacking in exchange for being easy to play. Like, this is quantifiable. And I only said that, not that she's bad in general or anything, but expecting LiLi to outheal anyone but Tyrande is stupid.

>>182745002
But I'd never want a Tyrande picked instead of another Assassin like Valla or Raynor or a mage or fucking anything else.
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>>182745002
Tyrande is a female who just happens to have a feminine dick, stop labeling her as a "trap"
>>182745064
Blind also counts as preventing damage and you cannot really measure that.
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>>182744829
>Lili the best

Fucking lol. That's why almost anyone good places her at bottom of tier 3 if not in tier 4, right? She's useful as a counterpick and she's *okay* as a second support, but so many things flat out outheal her or are just outright better.

Lucio does more than lili and can speed his entire team up and provide big shields, his 'big heal' also isn't interruptable.

Auriel with a decent battery outheals lili. Rehgar has a better clutch heal and generally consistent sustained heals. Uther has vastly better single target heals and better CC, worse mana costs though.
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>>182705287
enough with cancerwatch
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>never allowed to make actual counterpicks as last pick cause people always go "rofl sweet I'm in the first 3 time for triple dps" so I gotta be support or tank

then there's always the 2nd to last dude you know isn't happy because he doesn't even hover if he's going to support or tank when your team needs both and you don't know which to pick
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>>182746939
>Triple assassin
So you take the fourth or a specialist.
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Stukov need a Druid skin where it's trees that get off his arm.
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>>182746236
Are you ready for the next Hero?
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>>182739983
Do they actually... happy together?
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>>182749232
>Do they actually... happy together?
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>>182728014
Genji
Rehgar.
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>>182751820
Why do you not like Genji?
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>>182728014

Genji
Tyrande
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>>182741487

barnacle
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>>182751864

He is literally Mobility Creep + Training Wheels: The PROTECTED Character.

He offers no redeeming value whatsoever.
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Why are Azmodan's generals so fucking broken? Buffing the whole wave by 15% health AND damage on a fucking global skill. It seems like he's the perfect hero to abuse in soloqueue because most of the times people don't really care about picking a counter pusher or just can't coordinate enough to really shut him down.
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>>182749232


>He can't recognize the two biggest hateboners in the history of human storytelling

The hatesex between Illidan and Maiev would be enough to create Slaanesh on it's own.
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>>182752807
Wait till you take the 75 armor (which heals a minion) and the smite and the double general.

So much fucking push. You will always have every lane going in your favor.
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>>182752807
I would be fine if he had to actually be in the lane to push, but he literally just picks one from a distance and push its shit in because the enemy doesn't get alerted by it. Lets ignore the fact he still is able to melt and poke the shit out of others. I really don't see a lot of down sides to him like other specialist.
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>literally impossible to go back to LoL or DotA because both seem a million times more boring to me now after spending so much time with HotS
I really should have stuck with one.
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>>182692965
anything that can reliably disable his basic attacks immediately after his charge hits
>brightwing polymoph
>lili and cassia blind
>varian taunt
>pretty much any other stun or blind in the game

anyhing that can reliably save his charge target from getting bursted down
>uther ult
>tyrael ult
>auriel ult
>medivh shield
>any other [PROTECTED] in the game

butcher is completely reliant on killing a single target after charging it and throwing down his ult. if he is prevented from killing his target, he is easily kited to death since he has absolutely no mobility or defense.
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>>182753628
LoL I try to play but almost all my games someone tries to meme hard while screaming they will throw if they don't get their way while the devs keep buffing champs that don't need it. Dota's games are way too long and overly complex for no reason.
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>>182752807
>>182753209
His downside is that this teamfight presence before he completes sieging wrath (or gets loads of tfb stacks) is pretty shit, and even with a miraculously early completion he's still not great until 10. An azmodan on your team is similar to having a butcher or abathur in that you have to take the game nice and slow and play a safe early game. Unlike butcher though, Azmo never becomes the "I'm going to enable destroying the entire enemy team" character.
You could also compare him to vikings, but there he has worse soak and since he can't flawlessly soak all the lanes (can't even flawlessly soak two without some really good timing), he doesn't enable your team to endlessly roam for ganks.

So in short, Azmo like all other specialists is great at pushing if the enemy team never interferes with shit shit, but unlike other specialists, the only thing he excels at is being far enough from the action that even if the enemy comes for him he can just slowly walk away and be fine.
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>>182754113
Well, that's the thing. In my current unranked games people have 0 sense for objectives, they either ignore them or die / get chunked right before they come up and then you're shit out of luck because Azmo pushes your shit in while you can't even fight for the objective.
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>tfw no tyrande gf to sit on my face
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>>182733550
>other team is death balling
splitpush / soak 3 lanes
when they rotate to kill one of you, go back and be safe

>You can't soak cause you die, you can't split up because you get picked
dont play reckless and retarded
play safe
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>>182752821
They're so full of hate that it's become pure.
and it's cute
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>play support
>teammate at low health runs away from you
>dies
>starts spamming pings on you
>"HEALS????"
>proceeds be salty the rest of the game and throws
I'd probably be mad if it wasn't so funny.
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>>182754871
>Teammates low hp
>Peel and heal them up a bit
>Teammate runs back into to engage
>Dies
>WTF HEALER

I can only do so much to save you from your own stupidity.
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>>182755286

>they release Mei
>She's literally a better Jaina in every concievable way
>Jaina still gets no rework
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>>182755286
Ah yeah, more cancerwatch heroes that have auto attack while moving is exactly what hots needs.
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advices for uther?
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>>182755508
Don't have a shit team that doesn't know how to utilize divine shield.
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>blizzard bows to Grubby
>In contact with orcs
>Possesses psychic-like abilities
>Control the netherlands with an iron but fair fist
>Own castles & banks globally
>Direct descendants of the ancient royal blood line
>Will bankroll the first earth cities on azeroth (Grubengrad will be be the first city)
>Own 99% of DNA editing research facilities on Earth
>First designer babies will in all likelihood be grub babies
>215+ IQ, such intelligence on Earth has only existed deep in Tibetan monasteries & Area 51
>Ancient Indian scriptures tell of an angel who will descend upon Earth and will bring an era of enlightenment and unprecedented technological progress with him
>own Nanobot R&D labs around the world
>You likely have grubbots inside you right now
>Grubby is in regular communication with the Archangels Michael and Gabriel, forwarding the word of God to the Orthodox Church
>learned fluent Orc in under a week
>Nation states entrust their gold pieces with the Grub. There’s no gold in Ft. Knox, only Ft. Grub
>Is 7 decades old, from the space-time reference point of the base human currently accepted by our society
>In reality, he is a being existing in all points of time and space from the big bang to the end of the universe. We don’t know his ultimate plans yet.
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>>182755508
use your abilities.
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We grand master tomorrow, boys.
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>>182755601
>someone took the time to write this
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>>182755508
How can you fuck up with Uther
LITERALLY every time I play him I get MVP
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>>182742827
t. (You)
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>>182755508

Holy Radiance should be used when it can hit 2 or more heroes, whether they be ally or enemy.

Holy Light should be used at the start of burst attempts so that your allies get the benefit from Devotion. Take Holy Shock if you think your team is going to have issues finishing low health enemies OR if you want to make Valeera's life a living hell (Uther can consistently beat Valeera 1v1 even if she gets the jump).

Hammer of Justice should be used to punish dive attempts OR if they have a Butcher, exclusively used right after he charges someone and it connects. Take Well Met against dive comps or against teams that are using a Zul'jin or Valla as their primary AAs.

99% of the time Divine Shield is a better Ult than Divine Storm. The 1% where DStorm is better, you'll know.
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>>182755578
>bunga team
He sucks at Uther. Looks like he's trying to play at a tank or something.
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>>182754871
>warhead junction
>play brightwing
>genji keeps chasing and diving only to die
>gets salty I'm not healing him
>start just hugging zul'jins dick
>genji gets saltier after every death
>me and zul'jin keep killing people as they go for nukes
>win
Probably the most entertaining match I've ever had.
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>>182749035
Oh, burning hell, no!
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How to make this game better:

>remove haunted mines, hanamura, garden of terror and blackhearts bay from ranked map rotation
>nerf malthaels healing
>nerf genjins dragonblade ultimate and dash range a bit
>give something back to outclassed heroes like raynor and jaina
>force players to play good amount of qm/unranked games to determinate their mmr, before allowing them to play HL (No more gold/plat-tier diamond players)
>tyrael talent rework

regards top memer
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>>182756614
>Take Holy Shock if you think your team is going to have issues finishing low health enemies OR if you want to make Valeera's life a living hell (Uther can consistently beat Valeera 1v1 even if she gets the jump).
well i guess that makes him more interesting than rehgar
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>>182757250
>stukov healing
what
how can you do less than 100k
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>>182757250

Rehgar can't handle stunners but he can solo most immobile bruisers/assassins on his own with a stick-and-move strategy. Plus Rehgar has infinitely better setup potential with Lunge + movable Earthbind.

Checks & Balances, m8. I find Rehgar more fun but that's because I enjoy playing aggressively while having healing available to me.
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friendly reminder that if you arent masters (NA doesnt count) or +3k mmr you cannot say team bunga
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>>182757731
biting people and dropping totems on them is basically the best
it's a shame i can't justify taking bloodlust more often
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>>182748925
More like a cyborg skin with a crane arm
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genji's deflect should only work for physical attacks

and if you think that would make him too squishy, the guy has fucking thrall hp
it would simply mean he cant go full retard without punishment all the time
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>>182758058
>>182757731
while its fun to bite people and ancestral some full retard diver
reghar character is rubbing me the wrong way, arena champ bloodthirsty OC orc? nah imma pass
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>whole day of unga bunga
I really am enjoying hots.
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>>182759180
Stop caring about it
99.9999999% of fucking ME BUNGA TEAM posts are Tales from Quick Match, and the motherfucker crying is usually some shit like Abathur or Nova. No one fucking cares, just stop posting ME RETARD BUNGA TEAM MAKE ME LOSE stories and the meme goes away.
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I feel like Flailing Swipe is the go-to Ult most of the time

Shove is a meme and is only good like 1 in every 10 casts
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Does /hotsg/ want axe?
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>>182760052
>ancestral healing post-dingo
feels good
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>>182760052
My go to hero if im tilted.
Nothing beats the axe.
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>>182760123
>not bloodlust berseker dingo with post taz heal talent

It's like you hate damage.
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>watching grubby vods to find out what happened with the whole toxic silenced thing
>see this

ah, so this is the power of EU GMs
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>>182760318
That only kicks in at 20 though
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>>182760326
Yeah, like every other game is a troll draft.

I guess they can afford to do that at the top because they can just win three for every one meme they lose.
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I can'tbelieve they took battlefield of Eternity out of rotation for hero league. Literally the best map.

Fuck Haunted Mines.
Fuck Warhead Junction.
Fuck your pleb tier maps.
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>>182759374
>lolbabbies cant control the tism long enough to not respond to posts they don't like
Not surprising.
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>>182760464
I too miss it dearly

>fucking mines and 4head junction instead
reeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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>>182760464

>warhead junction and Hanamura in the same rotation

end me now these maps are dogshit
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>>182760464
People actually like that shitty ass map? Half my games on it people don't know how to kill the immortal or defend so one part always gets ignored. It doesn't help if have no real damage to burst the boss down you are screwed.
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>>182760464
>>182760630
>>182760732
leave it to blizz to actually go out of their way to make the game less fun for literally no reason
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>>182760851
1. pick malt/valla/lunara
2. get good damage on both immortal phase and immortal defence
3. win game
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>enemy team basically has no cc other than Muradin
>go MAXIMUM LASER
>don't even need to dive or dunk the enemy team to kill them
>guaranteed 4v5 the moment Nova shows up
It is criminal that he is worth only 2k gold despite being so much fun.
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Does anyone know how the coloured borders work?

Is there some tier list of them? They make no sense to me.
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The more i play this the less i care about winning.
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>play xul
>me and li ming bump into enemy varian
>she launches her shit
>he protecc them all
>do what I can to slow his attack speed, root him and shit
>he's rooted next to li-ming
>she just stands there
>hasn't used her blink
>big fucking surprise she dies
>she pings me
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>>182762323
OOM anon
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>>182760996
Yes thank you for telling me all the things I am aware of. Despite that most people do not follow what should be simple. I have had games where the enemy or my team will just defend a point despite spawning over and over. Only for the immoral being slowly brought down until the inevitable happens. Half the time I end up as tank/support that ends up with the most damage on the immortal. Granted I will take Battle of Eternity over Hanamura any day.
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>>182761914
That's fine, but if you are not even trying to play the game I suggest stopping. I find it more fun to have a game where both sides try to play despite the game being an obvious loss. So if you just afk at the start why even bother?
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>>182762674
Because its obviously a millennial with no goal or purpose in life.
At least he didnt go SJW and/or cut his dick off
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>>182761805
lazer build is criminally underrated
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>>182762474
Azmo is a good middle to all this. I've used my minions alt and beamed the immortal with surpassingly good results in gold rank.
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>be unga
>ENEMY team is bunga
>win game
>feelsgoodman.mp4
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>>182762847
Laser build is better in most maps but DUDE LE DUNK LMAO
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>>182763113

t. wood league player
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>>182761805

>push 1 button
>counter all melee that lack a stun
>call it skill
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>>182762798
Why is millennial used as an insult when we are quite literally all millennials. If you're gen x or a boomer on here regularly you have fucked up your life choices more than any millennial.
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>>182760123
>Activating Touch of Death on Malthael just before Ancestral heal kicks in

FeelsGoodMan.jpg
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>>182763197
drafting is a skill, anon

maybe next time draft some stuns
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>>182763205
Because 20 year olds think it refers only to teenagers and want to feel like they're grownups.
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>>182763197
Where in my post did I say it was skill?

I said he was *FUN*
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>>182762969
Again I am usually stuck as tank/support is no better then pro players just "LOL JUST GO DPS" despite every drooling retard having the same fucking goal. At least if I get tanks like Muradin I can do a good amount of damage, but I still find the map to be pretty shitty unless you have a specific comp. Half the time Azmodan is banned so even your suggestion won't help.
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>fnatic opens draft with Tracer and Tass
>dig doesnt pick Varian
Sometimes these professional teams make such complicated decisions my simple mind can't comprehend
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>>182763452
Who gives a fuck about Varian when you have Anub, Medivh and Uther?
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>>182763542
cause he can do a trillion damage and remain near unkillable.
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>>182763542
I feel like not many people get how good Varian is against fast auto attackers.
>infinite PROTECTED
>infinite heroic strike resets
>infinite taunt
Plus the W + taunt on these targets will drop them to really low health because of the heroic strike resets
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>>182763452

Uther counters her, Greymane counters her, medivh can protect from her ult.
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>>182764384
They count on them using CC on her, so they can throw the unstoppable on her
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>>182764716

And if Dignitas picked Varian they would have lost the early game much harder considering the hero is basically dogshit before level 10. No lineup is perfect.
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>>182764821
Neither team has the followup for varian, or anything to compensate his bruiser early game
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>>182764973

Should note that I don't really understand the Arthas pick here either. It accomplishes nothing.
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>>182764384
Why bother picking 3 heroes that counter Tracer if you can pick 1 hero that can counter both Tracer and Tassadar?
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how should i play anubarak ?
first in with E and then W ?
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Is there anyone I can watch if I wanna get really good at Zeratul?
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>>182765076
Roots for falstad and rehgar, anti aa on tracer if she dives, self-healing army of the dead to easy Uther's healing, letting him focus on the rest of the team instead. you can see this in his talent choices
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>>182765190
Never use E to initiate unless you can guarantee to isolate and kill someone. Despite being a tank Anubarak is really squishy, so you want to stun key targets or peel for your squishies while cocooning important heroes.
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>>182765226

He can't anti-aa tracer considering she can just blink away/rewind from him any time he gets close. I would have much rather seen something like Alarak or Stitches.

>>182765130

Because picking Varian forces you to play defensively early game, on top of shit waveclear on a map like Tomb of the Spider Queen.
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>>182765453
That's exactly why he picked Arthas, the moment she tries to go in, his E shuts her damage down, slows her and she has to bail. It's a retardant for tracer, making her less agressive
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/outeam/ is winning
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should have picked Varian
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Can we all agree that Tracer is cancer?
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>>182765652
Tracer and falstad would've just deleted dignitas before they got to mid game
>>182765692
all OW heroes are cancer, except Zarya, she's bae
>>
Anyone in the EU want to play QMs and such? I need fucking friends.

Kekmate#2741
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>>182765692
Overwatch is cancer that has spilled into hots.
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>>182765559

She can attack while staying out of range from it easily. It might make her more hesitant to dive in but that doesn't mean it stops her in any way. You'll just get encounters where the tass/tracer pokes at you from afar until your team is worn down and you're forced to retreat. It's exactly what happened this game.
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>>182765797
Not with that fucking username I don't.
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>>182765851
what's wrong with the username you fucking faggot?
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Varians block shouldn't work vs DoTs, you agree with me guys?
And Genjis W shouldn't work vs spells at all
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>our team 3 supports
>their team uther and 2 assassin 2 specialist
>kill them twice as much but lose because no map pressure
why does this happen
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>when your game is lost due to an obvious misplay like engage outnumbered/talent down or individuals getting picked off/staggered deaths and people start to blame picks

I want to punch those faggots in the fucking face
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>>182765837
Again, Arthas role is to protect the team while anub dives, if anyone is out of position arthas can capitalize, he's there to make sure tracer doesn't reach the backline to poke, tracer had to play really passively considering what she can do
Dignitas loss isn't as easy as "oh they just didn't have a proper tank" Arthas was a perfect pick in conjunction with Medivh and uther. But thier weakest pick was, on my money, Medivh, they already had the sustain for days, Medivh's was kinda useless, where it promoted aggressive plays, but had no followup
Gul'dan would've been great
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>>182766056
Immunity shouldn't be such a widespread ability.
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>>182766056
>And Genjis W shouldn't work vs spells at all
So Illidan?
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>>182766091
>Hanamura
>Ours team 4 supports
>Their is standard teamcomp
>lose early game
>down to 2 shots
>win every teamfight after that because heroics and we can stall forever at the payloads
>win
lol hanamura
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>>182766448
With reflecting the damage, yes (the same damage he is supposed to take, no constant damage per hit). His dodge passive could aswell be removed and replaced by something else (like reflecting 5 autoattacks will reduce his W CD or something)
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>>182766604
well considering it was hanamura that's fine
my game was garden terror and we were flooded with minions and camps we couldn't clear fast enough and murky was making us split
despite killing them 36+ times and they only killing us 11, we still lost due to the amount of hard push them had over us
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>>182766312

I never said it was as easy as "pick a proper tank". Simply don't think that Arthas fit the remainder of the lineup for what they were trying to do. If anything it forced Dignitas to play passively because they never had an opportunity to engage all game. Fnatic just kept them at a distance and wore them down.

Changing out the medivh pick would have been fine as well. Gul'dan is a bit of a greedy pic but could have worked out if they managed to hold out fairly well until level 10 when Horrify comes into play. Still think Stitches combined with the Medivh would have worked really well though.

This is all assuming these heroes weren't banned which I don't know since I only started watching after the drafting phase.
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Why do i feel like i'm contributing nothing as Chen. Even if i land all my abilities. I like his playstyle but man he needs buffs or something.
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>>182766864
Arthas was just simply there to defend, his kit to defend his backline is as good as it gets, self heal, roots, army of the dead. Biggest problem was simply them not having a proper backline to defend, Medivh's portal for escapes are nice, but it just delays the inevitable. Stitches wouldn't be able to defend properly and his hooks would be hard to land vs three high mobility and an ETC+unstoppable
Most likely when landing a hook, ETC would dash in and mosh to stop the burst, and stitches kit would fall short when defending the backline
Gul'dan would enable dig to clear lanes easily, horrify and poke hard vs tracer when she went in, only way to save her would be to cleanse the horrify, putting the reghar out of position since it would make her run deeper into the enemy lines, with her recall putting her back into the backline
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>>182766746
wave clear is king
i just cant imagine playing heroes who cant at least take solo camps fast or clear huge waves under 20 seconds
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>>182767030
You are a fat useless drunk who can't provide for his team and is a disappointment and an embarrassment to his niece lili.
Just like if YOU became a dad in real life, i think the realism is pretty neat.
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>>182767030
He's good at bodyblocking and pushing lanes with assistance, since he can soak all shots
Problem is that the game is very focused on burst, and his trait doesn't do enough to counter it. He is good vs sustain damage, but there are better heroes for that, like muradin or johanna, both play similarly
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>>182767030
Because Chen is a death-by-thousand-barfs hero so in a bursty game like HotS, you don't contribute as much. And there's the fact that you are useless if the enemy team has any cc.
>>
Should i get Tyrael's charger for the gems or save them up for Halloween/Christmas?
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>>182767776
You'll have enough shards to buy it soon enough
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>team picks tyrande and tassadar
>combined healing 40k, half of enemy solo healing
>but muh 29k damage
Does this still occur in diamond or is it just play who think they are clever doing this?
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>>182767961
They're not healers anon, they enable their team to play aggro
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Will the event emotes go away?
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HOLY CRAP
W U B B Y
U
B
B
Y
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Why.
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Should I be bodysoaking as Azmo during objectives and just stay within range of them to throw a Q every 10 seconds?
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>tfw been picking nothing but random
>tfw bullying mirror matches
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>>182768573
As long as your trait is on a lane you'll be fine
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/ourteam/ win once again
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>>182769002
Fuck off reddit
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*bakery and mene screams in the distance*
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>>182769038
no

>>182769065
I want to see if mene goes full shitposting like he did when Liquid raped his ass..
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Why do people take Anub's Epicenter? I feel like I'm just going to take Rewind at 20 most of the time. Is the aoe enlargement that good?

If feel like just pooping in and fucking up spell power is much better. I mean fuck 50% of of Ming or Kaels Damage for 4 seconds, that's amazing, that's a life saver.
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How many of you have fucking stupid friends that actually bought Rise of the Necromancer and played it for 2 days and quit just like literally everyone knew was going to fucking happen?
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>>182769130
The hilarious part is that Fnatic could throw and lose nothing, instead they're just denying Dignitas from getting to the clash
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>guys we've lost 2 games, if we lose the next one we're out

>lets pick our opponents strongest map
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>>182769332
its almost like talent choice is dependent on the enemy comp woah
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>>182768067
So why the fuck do I have 2 of them on my team with no healers.
Next game there was a Lili into my uther who just disconnected, and still I got blamed by MADA MADA when he died by dashing into the enemy fort.
How did it turn out like this? I had a 7 win streak yesterday. I thought forced 50 is just a meme?
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>>182769748
what better way to tilt the enemy team at the start of your reverse sweep?
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>>182769606
They don't deserve to be there.

>>182770017
They didn't tilt after throwing 3 game sin the msb.
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>>182769970
Your fault for playing on the weekends in the summer.
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>>182769970
Because matchmaking is retarded

>>182770017
Tilting the enemy by throwing?

>>182770202
They do, Dignitas are very capable and have been neck and neck to fnatic for a long while, since the new reworks and nerfs/buffs, it seems like fnatichas better understanding of each hero than dignitas does

>dignitas picks bw and falstad
>w-we can global too guiz!
They're trying to play the enemy's strats on the enemy's turf, this is hilarious!
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>literally 55% of the time I play a specialist my team is comprised of 2-3 specialists while the other team has none

I just want to play fucking azmodan
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What's the glowy rainbow helmet supposed to be? GM?

I'm fucked, aren't I?
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>>182770436
Platinum
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>>182770386
>They do
They are in 4th place right now after throwing a series vs one of the open division teams.

>Dignitas are very capable and have been neck and neck to fnatic for a long while
Until now, both Tricked and Liquid are better right now.
>>
>Annonce hyped Warchest in SC2
>Is actually a ripoff of dota 2 compendium for 10 (or 25) bucks

SHOO SHOO BLIZZ JEW
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>>182768408
whats the problem? are you not prepared?
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>>182770436
That's Platinum.

Master is purple border with a crown icon, Grandmaster is lightning border with a number and pointy crown icon.
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>>182681558
so what did you spend your free gems on, anons?
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Based fnatic!
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>everyone hyping up fnatic-dignitas
>its a 3-0 stomp fest
wooow
>>
BASED
OURGUYS
OURTEAM
BASED REDDIT
LOL LE OURBOYS
>>
RIP dig

2nd place at world wide brawl can't even get 4th place eu
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>>182771668
>doesn't know the history between fnatic and dignitas
Sad!
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>>182769576
I got D3 for Christmas, played through once and then never again.

Right clicking on monsters and picking up after them... wooooo

Although I admit I loved D2 and it was basically the same shit, but it just felt good somehow.
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>>182768408
Achievement Unlocked: League of Cucks
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>tfw enemy is completely ignoring us attacking their core

this game man
the only problem is that short game = shit exp ;_;
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>>182771426
Haven't.

Probably a 10,000 hero or 1600 shard skin/mount/tint, or whatever.

>>182772012
>they're defending against a wave 1-2 webweaver while their core crumbles
blizbabs i swear
>>
>you queue up for a QM and you get this guy on your team
>first thing he says when the match starts is I'm going colossus smash
what do you do?
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>>182772012
>kael and auriel decides to get a bruiser camp and push the core with it for some reason
>enemy team is already on our last keeps walls with a bruiser camp
>they are still dicking around next to the enemy core when ours falls
It's worse when it's a long game you could have won and someone goes full retard costing you a lot of xp.
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>>182772330

What are the comps? Fucking idiot.
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>>182772330
continue playing as normal because I don't talk to people and also it's QM, c smash is fine in qm
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can i stop getting faggots skin from shit characters
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I'm starting to think I should be taking judgement more than sanct just for how hard it is to get a good sanct in TL even with multiple melee teammates
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>>182772926
im jealous, all the even skins I've gotten are fucking bikini stitches variants
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>>182773670
think i got 1 stictches and 2 tracer
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>>182773093
good sanc is easy
just use it as a divine shield if you problems and go from there
>>
li li buff when
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>>182766746
Was just in a game on Dragon Shrine where this happen. They had 40+ kills on our 10+ but no Dragon knight happen and our Azmo and Zag just power pushed top to the core.
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>Infernal shrines
>Bad early enemy is ahead 2 levels on 1st shrine
>Team starts to whine why are we not suicide into them
>Communicate with my team to give it up and just trade forts
>They actually listen
>They follow with the calls
>Catch up on exp and win
Remember kids, at least try to type what are you doing and not just blame, whine, telling how they should play.
Also as long as you have your keeps and not 2 talent down its a winnable position
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>>182770495
>>182771405
Man, that was such a relief to know it was only plat. Gave me the confidence to win.
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Why am i not getting any recognition when i trigger the master taunt? I have max lvl taunt and nobody even caers
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>>182772926
we have bikini tychus and bikini stitches but not a single bikini grill, how is this fair? This is also sexist as fuck but because it is against men then nobody cares
And no tracer doesn't count, her burkini is a joke
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>>182774068
is this bait?
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>>182773946
Don't be intimidated by anything up to and including Diamond when looking at portrait. Season 1 Master/Grandmaster, either.

>>182774068
>master taunts
>still self-stun
Yeah, I'm pretty sure people forgot they were even implemented.
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>>182761805
>Not playing him back when he was 15k and nobody knew how to deal with being laser'd
I'd say "truly that was the golden age of azmo" but this actually is it, right now.
>>
Taunt tier list

God Tier:
Leoric
Chromie
Greymane

Kill yourself Tier:
the rest
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>>182773946
>gazillion heroes released
>still get regularly 2-4 mirror heroes in Quick meme
kinda sad desu
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>>182770393
From my experience that leads to more wins because that can't stop all that lane pushing. I was just in a game that was Azmo, Xul and murky vs 2 tanks and 3 assassins where we just crush their forts and won.
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>>182774512
Rag's on free week so I'm guessing mirror matches happen more with f2p heroes than not.
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>>182774562
Obviously depends on the map. If it's a 2 lane map or bhb you most likely will lose.
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>>182774738
it was cursed hollow, so while outside the fights we were knocking down a bunch of structures, we just couldn't get any tributes unless someone was way out of position. We got their core down to 60% with me and Xul pushing like mad before they were able to all in us during curse
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>>182756763
I want A Roadhog skin for Stitches.
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>that 3rd fnatic vs dig game
My point still stands, fucking pick Varian if enemy goes Tassadar + Tracer
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>>182775737
just fucking ban tassadar
his life steal enables too much
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>blizzard finally made xul great again
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>>182776318
buff probe
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>>182774303
>Season 1 Master/Grandmaster, either.
Season 2 was easy too.
Season 3 wasnt too hard either if you ranked high in Season 1/2
Now in Season 5 looking at all the mediocre streamers not managing GM and some even Master shows that Blizzard finally started to separate the chaff from the wheat.
Or Diamond is finally so full of shitters that some get drowned in them.
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>cho gall pick
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>>182733550
>3-4 levels behind on mines
>one of our team dies
>they get 100 golem
>"alright team we can't defend this let's just zerg their core"
>out race them and win
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GUYS
GUYS
THE STREAM
THEY GOT THE ANGLE
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Cho'Gall seeing tournament play is the best thing to happen to Heroes
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>>182777787
I dont see how Cho can win such a stacked match on him.
They literally got 3 counters and anub on him.
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>>182777232
Well, at last check it's still possible to place Diamond III on fresh accounts. Figured they'd have changed it down to Gold-Platinum at this point. Oh, and all the points that keep them floating around in Diamond and not dropping immediately.

>>182777787
How do you figure?

also qm/ai solo queue cho'gall when
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>>182777232
>Or Diamond is finally so full of shitters that some get drowned in them.
So is there truth to unga bunga?
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>>182778021
I want to qm chogall but i dont have a buddy for him.
Also Auriel looks like amazing synergy with him.
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>>182777638
>anub, greyman, tychus, leoric
cho'gall is fucked
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>>182777928
I'm not saying he's going to win, it's a rough matchup for him here. But I still like seeing it, it's fun how it changes the game dynamic pretty severely.

>>182778021
>also qm/ai solo queue cho'gall when
Literally never. At least not this year. Internally Blizzard is still totally opposed to the idea. We'd probably see a 3 or 5 man "hero" before that.
>>
I think that Gold is actually worse than Silver. It's full of people who have latched onto one gimmicky champion, catapulted out of bronze with EBIC ILLIDAN/VALEERA/HAMMER?SAMURA/NOVA SKILLZZZZZZxXx, and then continued to baclly grind and be carried past silver.

Fuck I'm new to Mobas, but Bronze people are at least open to suggestion, like "guys we need this objective" or "lets wait for he team". They make bad comps and bad picks, but at least they are learning.

"Lol I'm good with Valeera, don't worry"
>Chooses Valeera vs Malf, Arthas, and Butcher
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>>182778314
>5 man hero
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>>182778474
>Samuro
>nova
>illidan
>valeera
>catapulting picks
Genji pls
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>>182778557
It would probably be a "team" not like a single hero controlled by 5 people.
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>>182778684
Woah, just imagine a 5 man hero that splits into 5 different heroes each controlled by one player.
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>didn't win shit this time in the raffle either
thanks blizz bots, that make the player numbers bloat
I bet there aren't even 100k unique people playing this game every day
done with this game
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>>182778684
>Not wanting V-07-TR-0N in the game
>Not wanting to get to shout AND I'LL FORM THE HEAD
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>>182779040
>play for chance to win free shit
>don't get free shit
>i bet the jews did this
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>>182779136
isn't pretty much "buy boxes or you wont get shit" 99% of the time? number pulled out of my ass clearly
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>>182779037
5 man hero, you can choose any RTS base from Blizzard, but all must pick a builder

Your units can't take objectives, you have to win through raw siege and overwhelming force
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>>182779325
it's luck
so naturally someone will get every item in the game and some people will get nothing but dupes and sprays
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>>182779040
Only good goys are allowed to win prizes. When you criticize them slightly even once, they add you to the bad goy list.
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>>182779325
Someone said that you are gauretedd a Legendary every 16 boxes or so. So basically always reroll shitty boxes or boxes that have nothing you like in them as it will push you to the 16th box faster.
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>>182778068
No. It's literally impossible for you to not be the reason you lost. Like the time I told the team to "just defend" when it was clear would would not be able to get the zerg wave. Clearly I should have been more specific so kael'thas didn't think I meant "go to the other lane and ignore the zerg wave the enemy team is pushing with".
>>
>lose to fucking splitpushing nonsense on haunted mines from probius and sylvanas

what fucking do lads. I really hate this map, it feels like if I fuck up the exact amount of heroes that need to go stop their splitpush while also still doing the objective/camps it's just easy loss. Like oh we sent too many to stop their push, now the people doing the objective get fucking killed. Or the other way around where too many people go to stop the push and we give up the objective
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>>182780339
I just realized I essentially said the same thing twice, but what I meant was we don't send enough/the right hero to stop the push and they can't kill them fast enough and they get away
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>>182780339
It's a shitty map where camps are more important than the boss obj half the time.

Honestly it is only marginally better than Hanamura.

Two lane maps are generally bad. BOE is at least tolerable once you get used to just bashing your teams together every 3 minutes.
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This was ranked
Wonderful, is it not?
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>Haven't played Thrall in like a year
>Checking most used talents
>Most people seem to take Follow Through at 7 instead of the Windfury quest but then also take the extra Windfury hits at 16

I thought the whole point of the 16 Windfury talent was to make the level 7 quest easier. Maybe I'm just overanalyzing a shit hero that nobody plays.
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>>182782096
If you were good at thrall a year ago you'd know why people pick followthrough
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>>182782042
The infamous platinum 1 division where salty diamond 5s come to meet deranged Valeeras.
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>>182782187
My point is why not just take the extra root length at 16 then?
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Tyrande pickers need to be removed from this existence
>>
this zealot liquid series is awesome
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>>182782291
Because with Bolt you're dishing out 9.8 AAs rather than 6 in both windfury rotations, excluding other abilities from triggering Follow Through.

It's the most burst you can build. Root is really good, but triple hit is just better for murdering squish
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>its a liquid spaghetti episode
thats why they dont deserve to play outside league games.
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>>182782458
But she can win a 1v1 duel though if they stand around for 20+ seconds and have zero burst and bad sustained!
>>
is there anything more satisfying as infinite archon?
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>tribute spawns on the opposite side of the map we are on
>no way we will make it there in time, at mos dehaka and bw could zip there but they're literally all 5 there
>"give trib get boss instead"
>leo goes and feeds at trib anyway
>get there as bw to try and save him, dies anway
>flames the team the rest of the game
>lose, probably would've anyway but him stopping to type every two minutes didn't help

so this is the power of team bunga
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>>182783108
full duration Seven-Sided Strike on Diablo felt pretty good earlier
>>
>>182783274
>play cursed
>we're behind in lanes and have to clean up lest risk core
>trib spawns
>dehaka goes there, entire enemy team missing
>arrives as trib is enabled
>entire enemy team there
>dies in seconds
>team????
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>>182783274
>we're 8, enemy team is 10
>oh and we have an abathur
>say to give tribute (it wont' grant them the curse)
>two people just walk in and die
>wow nobody came to objective
>go back to league or dota pls ty

like what the
>>
>>182783743
>>go back to league or dota pls ty
Both of those games are more complex than HotS
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>>182783807
lol and dota don't have map objectives.
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>>182783807
>ask why we're forcing fights when at a talent disadvantage
>go back to doto
>tfw too dumb to understand what they meant by that
>>
>hanamura still not deleted
uh blizzdrones?
>>
>>182778557
> tfw you will never shin shine spark with four other people as the ultimate.
>>
>>182784217
Map objectives arent that hard a concept to grasp
Also
>Runes
>Roshan
>Void Herald
>Dragon
>Baron Nashor
They kinda do. If they were as crucial or pointed out as HotS map objectives they'd basically be the same thing.
>>
>>182740745
I love Rehgar for one reason. He's the only hero in the game who can make allies big.
>>
>>182784337
>hanamura, blackheart's bay and garden continue to exist
>for some reason

I can't defend it.

>>182778557
WE HAVEN'T MUCH TIME, FRIENDS
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>>182784419
When someone is just laning and ignoring objectives "go back to lol" is understandable salt. Those "objectives" in lol and dota are pretty much the equivalent to fighting over bosses in hots.
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>>182778557
>mfw 5 people piloting the Spear of Adun
>1 pilot, 2 gunners, 2 people that can fly out in Scouts to skirmish the other team
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>>182784217
>herald
>baron
>dragon
>elder
>buffs
>vision
>scuttle
>towers
>inhibitors

I haven't played Dota.
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>ally anub dies 6 times to li ming
>ask why
>"stfu noob tired of your QQ im afk"
>>
>>182784763
>anub uses his e to dive 1v5 after they killed a seed terror.
>dies instantly
>i say why
>he says why not
>game ends with him having 8 more deaths than the next highest

who are these people

who are these people
>>
>>182785072
>Sonya spears under their keep and dies at 20 minutes
>a simultaneous "what the fuck" from three people
>lol idgaf this isn't even my main

??
>>
>>182784763
>>182785072
bronze anubs are really funny to watch
>>
>>182784692
Yeah, but don't be that guy who enters the mines to get 6 skulls and then dies while one lane is empty.
>>
BASED ZEALOTS

what a surprise that a uther genji malthael team would be strong in teamfights
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>liquid
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>>182785632
>>182785634
And I thought Dignitas was bad lmao
>>
>>182785376
wtf team y u no go in???
>>
>liquid just sits and stares at boss until they get initiated on

That was some pretty impressive strategy on their part.
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>liquid 0-3 when fighting malthael
>better not ban him
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>>182785816
they didnt expect the uther flank
to be fair they were so far ahead in structures, they didnt want to fight because fighting (and losing) was the only way for them to lose
>>
>>182785962
They should have just left the boss, they would have had an easier time killing it, and at worst they would have lost a keep and evened up the lane.
>>
>>182773786
i hate how half of his skins look like he rolled in dirt
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>Zarmony from Slovenia
>webcam shows him living in a dark, cold & wet garage
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>>182783510
That is pretty awesome. I landed that on a chogall once and then finished him with a dash. I came.
>>
Did Zealot win that match with Cho'gall?
>>
>>182786584
no it was the only game they threw hard.
>>
>>182786382
thats just how it is
>>
>>182785730
BUNGA HEALER LET ME DIE
>>
gilly looks so much better without her crappy pink highlights it's ridiculous
>>
why is my boy tychus win rate so low?
>>
>>182787834
Valla exists
>>
>>182787834
they took the instant heal from his trait
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>>182787834
Meant to be tank-buster. Worked too well into non-tanks.

Valla is completely fine being the #1 generalist damage-dealer, though, for some reason.
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>>182787834
Because niche counterpick.
>>
>>182788163
valla dies to pyroblast so its ok
>>
>>182787834
odin doesn't syngergize with his taletns and his double life was cut short, but they let shit like dva off the hook and amp it up to 11
>>
>>182787825
This
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>>182788243
>Gloom

Isn't she also able to Vault out of the blast or is that blinks only?
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>teammates draft squishy immobile characters versus Nova, then proceed to stand in lane a mile away from everyone else and die to her

I fucking hate warhead junction, the map is so huge you can't do anything to punish stealthies ganking your teammates
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>>182785376
TEAM?!?!!
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>>182788543
only blinks
also it's nigh impossible
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>>182788631
what are you saying warhead junction is a perfect map that's why it's never played in hgc :^)
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>>182789036
It's the best map layout and the worst snowbally gimmick
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>>182789036
how are you actually supposed to play it, I feel like it's just a fucking clown fiesta of teammates dying randomly far as hell away. I understand BHB better than warhead
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>>182789229
how is it a good layout? it is far too big, lanes are too wide and too long
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>teammates repeatedly get assfucked by diablo

I'm not even trying to me unga team bunga, literally every fucking time there's a diablo on the other team they feel the need to go hug him and get flipped and charged into their towers. How do I stop this
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I don't think Greymane, Valla, or Genji need nerfs. If other assassins were brought up to their level it would be more balanced of a game.
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>>182789804
>how to invoke power creep
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>Theres a jaja on my team
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>>182789606
>>182789606
NEW THREAD
>>182789606
>>182789606
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>>182788464
D.va is fine because she fucking tickles in comparison to Tychus.
>oh you dove me and brought my HP down while I rammed my minigun up your tanks arse? Fuck you, have an even bigger nuke in your face
>oh you dove me and wasted all your damage on my ticklebot? Teehee bigshot ;)))
See what I mean? You can't ignore Tychus outside of Odin, but you sure as fuck can ignore D.va.

Also, his biggest downfall was the range reduction. That shit hurts. That's The Stuff being nerfed so hard killed In The Rhythm too because of counter synergy. He's still servicable, but much more confined to his role as tankbuster, not general ranged AA.
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>>182789804
Greymane/Valla and Genji shouldn't even be in the same sentence when it comes to balancing or talking about how overpowered someone is. Genji has consistently been the top pick/ban since his release and is ridiculously unpunishable and mobile.
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>>182742210
1) Genji has mana
2) Zarya can't attack while moving
The rest are probably right, though, which is why Mei will never be in HotS. Her kit is too strong in a moba format. It's kinda too strong in a shooter. She can 1v1 just about anyone.
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>>182789804
Valla isn't in the same league as those two. Greymane is dive hyperburst damage balanced by an inability to self sustain or escape. Valla is just good ranged DPS who can get out of dodge when she positions intelligently.

Genji can teleport a screen away and why the team with resets, and is nearly impossible to deal with when enabled by his team, considering his E and his W. D-shield dragonblade is cancer, as is any form of burst heals or armor on him. Genji's way too mobile.
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>>182775321
Replace vile gas with exhaust?

What about gorge?

RoadHog would have to shit himself and eat people, might be out of character, but I'd rather that than anoth OverPiss charter.
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>>182796692
Genji is basically Tracer: Better Than Tracer Edition
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