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Both Eyes Open edition

What's new?

>Stukov confirmed; Starcraft Support; Now LIVE
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20886131/
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/heroes/stukov/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBBUVUmzxKk&feature=youtu.be

>Sun's Out, Guns Out Summer Event and Sweepstakes; Now LIVE
>New summer themed skins, mounts, and sprays
>Event ends the week of July 24th
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20838724/
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20852963/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAolE6W_l9I&feature=youtu.be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RNtPcvCf8Q&feature=youtu.be

>Heroes of the Storm 2.0
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20695700/
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/heroes20/

>For New Players
>Welcome to Heroes of the Storm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPk004vsjuE&feature=youtu.be
>Official Community Resources, Guides, and Tips
>Talent Calculators, Statistics, Youtubers, and more
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/guides-resources/
>Tier lists are effective guidance tools, but should never be blindly followed
http://www.heroescounters.com/map
http://www.robogrub.com/tierlist
http://www.tentonhammer.com/articles/heroes-of-the-storm-tier-list

>Current Weekly Sale
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20881852/weekly-collection-update-july-11-18-2017-7-11-2017
>Current Weekly Brawl
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20888404/
>Current Patch Notes
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20888403/

>Where can I find GM players stuck in plat?
"/join /vg/" in game chat
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Where the FUCK is Maiev????
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I will continue using the same brood war cinematic until someone else makes the thread
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Why is Nova fucking cancer?
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>>182568009
Because you're level 53.
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>Stukov in every game
>200k healing per game
>instant aoe silence on a little cooldown
>cant kill anything if you dont play a nuke hero

guess i'll just wait for the 50% reduce healing nerf incoming
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>>182568009
She's shit and only shits on shitters.
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>my team absolutely shitstomps theirs within the first 5 minutes
>team then gets extremely overconfident, ignores my requests to retreat, and proceeds to try to 1v5 cause lol talent advantage and then loses the game

remind yourself overconfidence is a slow and insidious killer. Especially if you're a fucking moron effectively trying to spawn camp the enemy on hanamura instead of turning in a payload with 3 shots
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>>182568107
how do i counter stukov ? which hero ?
no i will not play stukov
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>>182568107
>healing is heavily dependent on the team staying close together
How is that any different from BW or Auriel? use KT's living bomb and watch them scatter like rats
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>>182568368
zeratul
chronosphere stukov
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>>182568368
just pick zuljin and hard focus stukov and ult when necessary
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>>182568510
>TAAAAAAZ-
>BEGONE
>shoves you across the entire map
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>>182568107
>instant silence
>literally has a delay
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Triple Tap is literally the highest damage ult in the game.
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>>182568009
>never participating in team fights
>only good at finishing off players at 50% health or less
>continues to walk around cloaked for 95% of the time
>always complaining about team
nova isn't that bad
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>>182568009
>>182569197
>nova
>anything but useless
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>>182568009
She hasn't been relevant for years.

>>182569197
And The Butcher has some of the highest sustained damage.
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>>182567790
>https://pastebin.com/sNQ3GgGb

Next OP use this Pasta.
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>>182569197
false
last rites can do more
shadowbolt volley does more
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>>182569197
[PROTECTED]
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>>182569197
Despite the fact that it doesn't, It also roots you while you use it making it one of the most useless ults.
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>>182568625
get out
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>every ranked match someone starts to insult we lose
i'm sure its a coincidence!
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>>182569925
it can also be blocked, body blocked, protected, parried, reflected, or nullified via stasis. And it tells everyone where you are while you channel the slow ass move.
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>play any mage
>never run out of mana
>play jaina
>have to tap after two spells
why?
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>>182570341
>be a moron
>make moronic posts
????????????
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>>182570341
Jaina's kit is outdated and they haven't updated her mana costs.
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Is Auriel black under her hood like Tyrael?
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>>182570908
pls no
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>>182570908
No, angels literally don't have anything under their armor. They're beings of pure energy that move around by controlling their armor through willpower

Tyrael is black cause he choose to be, he could've equally chosen to appear as a white guy or a wolf or someone's pet gerbil
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>>182570908
we was angels and shiet
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>>182571134
What do they need armor for then? why not just be "beings of pure energy" instead of dressing up?
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>>182571329
fight demons, I guess it's hard for beings of energy to hold a spear
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>>182570908
You just randomize a human appearance when you give up your angelic form
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>>182570908

I hope she's asian, so weebs kill themselves
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That's the most votes I ever got in HL
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this is your shit-talking varian tonight
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>>182570341
She has multiple talents for mana recovery. Her kit and trait are also too strong without something to counterbalance them.
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>kael damages you for 2.500 damage in 2 seconds
perfectly balance i guess
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>>182571905

pardon my bronze, but is there any valid circumstance in which you take Warbringer over Shield Wall?
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Why is Biotic Armor so underrated? You can combine it with the level 16 talent for 9 seconds of 50% physical damage reduction to your tank or whoever is getting focused
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>>182571329
>>182570908
>>182571134
Angels are beings of spirit and willpower, as opposed to demons flesh and blood. Their 'physical forms' are literally just light (or bending light so there is an absence) and sound, they use armor as a means representing a physical form.

It's *usually* pretty hard to damage an angel because you're literally trying to hurt an intangible soul, but well, demons are special and their polar opposite thus the armor.
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>>182572340

Malthael and Auriel should explode on death then.
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>>182572190
Jaina's kit isn't even good in the current meta, I don't know where you get this "her kit and trait are too strong" from. If she didn't have mana issues she still wouldn't be good.
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>>182570908
Nah. The skin color depends of what the persons lack what angels represent

>Tyrael: First justince then wisdom
black people lack that

>Auriel: Hope
I assume germans are in a hopeless situation now so she is true aryan then
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flMK8sNzjYg
Blackthorne cucking Thrall when
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guess silver is average non-retarded player?
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>>182572704
>Looks like diamond

no wonder people in diamond are so trash,they are actually silvers
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>>182572704
if you just finished placements for the first time it's way more dependent on qm than how you actually perform

I was playing with bronze 5 players at the start of them cause my qm winrate was ass, placed like silver 2 by the end of it
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>>182572704
>guess silver is average non-retarded player?
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>>182572704
Hahaha. No. You're so retarded you don't even know the mistakes you're making.
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>>182572823
yea first time placements
>>182572962
you right,i dont even like the genre
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>>182572704
Ahaha, no.
Average, mostly not retarded players are Plat. Diamond for actual average people
It's only Masters+ wherer people get good

Anything below Gold is just various levels of "fucking kill yourself" tier.
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>>182572324
>underrated
>lowest winrate

I only take it against Butcher so I slap it on whoever's getting charged.
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>>182572704
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>Ally picks abba
>Weak ass push
>Doesn't body soak
>Monstro

Gee, I'm so glad to have a marginally better experience gain and 3 little stingyies and a paper shield in every team fight.
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>>182573787
abas who dont understand bodysoaking should be banned
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>>182572324
If your tank is really a tank you shouldn't need to hardly do anything to him regarding survivability.
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>deflecting a Li-Ming's disintegrate
is there anything more satisfying?
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>>182573342
>Lowest winrate
It's like saying Genji is shit because his winrate is low. This guy requires some skill to play you know
Slapping 50 armor for 4,5 seconds on a target with pretty low CD can do amazing things
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>>182573941
Why not? Sgt. Hammer is pretty squishy
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>>182572704
Silver/Gold is the hell gulch.

Slightly less retarded, but infinetly more bad habits.

Filled with Illidans and novas that have gotten out of bronze thinking they are hot shit with garbage heros and shitty drafting.
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>>182574169
I can't get out of gold 1
w l w l w l w l w l
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>>182574002
>I don't have to consider positioning, the hero
>Press button to invincible
>Literally no excuse for dieing
>skill
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>>182574269
Platinum is a clusterfuck this season. Wait until sappers are fixed too because both mines and towers are in rotation.
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>>182574002
genji is ez mode, the hero
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>>182574591
just like ming right my dude
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>>182574732
You can master Ming in five minutes
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>>182574732
maybe a year and a half ago, yeah
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>When you find the EXP cap
AYYYY
If only I had my first win of the day bonus
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>it's on full display

l-lewd!
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>>182575010
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OFFICIAL MAINS POWER RANKINGS

1. bruiser
2. specialist
3. tank
.........
90001. assassin
9000001. support
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>>182574169
so far haven't gotten any illidian or nova , only 1 tracer
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>Be Azmo on cursed hollow
>Soak in line while spamming my Q on tribute, kill Tracer a couple times and weaken them overall, send general of hell down an unoccupied lane to push it
>Teammate gets mad at me and tells me I need to be joining fights

isn't this how you're supposed to play azmo? I don't know what else he can really offer in a fight other than Q spam, laser and minions are kinda weak
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>>182575240
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>losing 7 to 30
>johanna runs away from every fight before she can even take damage
>nazeebo spawncamping camps
>xul just sits in his lane and pushes
>enemy always in a deathball doing objectives
>me as falstaad with stukov trying to defend our keep 2v5
>the motherfucking xul leads a huge wave of mobs + camps from nazeebo
>he destroys their fort but they ignore him
>same with keep
>their core is down to 40% and they must have realized what the fuck is happening because they stratred hearthing
>victory
What the fuck is this game? The 20 minutes of autism from my team must have killed their braincells because it sure did kill mine.
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>>182575859
Your enemy team was real bad at the game, sounds like bronze mmr
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Why are Azmodan players so retarded?
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WHERE do i find decent players to play with? im real tired of shit players ruining my GAME experience! Please HELP
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>>182576269
Not here
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>>182576239
I don't understand how to play azmo, like other than black pool I don't see how a Q every 10 seconds adds up in siege damage. Unless you're going laser but really azmodan should not be able to get away with lasering down buildings solo even during curse
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>>182576239
>quickmatch
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>>182576239
There's two kinds of Azmodan players.

The first kind picks him for maximum autismo splitpushing and does literally nothing else all game but also always insists on the same lane, never leaves, and always gets caught. He's also usually Russian and doesn't talk or ping.

The second kind tries to teamfight in melee range with the laser and dies and spergs out at everyone.
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>>182576269
>someone please carry me
No
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>Now arriving at Hanamura
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>Open chest right as game started
>Come back, suddenly have 6 chests

Did I out jew Blizzard?
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>>182576615
you're legitimately retarded
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>>182576868
>HANAMURA IS FINE. I DONT CARE THAT THEY REMOVED SAPPER SPAWNS AND BECAUSE OF THAT U CAN BE CAMPED FOR ETERNITY WITHOUT THE GAME ENDING.
>THIS LITERALLY ONLY HAPPENS TO "SHITTERS" (AND MAYBE THE OCCASIONAL TEAM OF GRANDMASTERS AND PROFESSIONAL/EX-PRO PLAYERS)
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>>182575240
>Mains
Kill yourself and make this world a better place
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>Hanamura hasn't been disabled
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>>182577894
What a good fix, people loved hanamura so much they get to play on that map for even longer!
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>>182575172
>Vaginal grasping claws designed specifically to hold a human male at the waist and milk him of all his protein DNA material
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Why did they think making hanamura longer would make it better? Ever before the dumbass idea of taking out the sapper for the infinite games.
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>>182578189
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>>182578157
>[hatred intensifies]
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>>182577894
>Quick Match retardation
you're desperate
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Lord of the Clans characters when
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>>182577894
I hope people keep griefing like this so blizzard deletes hanamura
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>>182578252
They didn't want to make it better. Hanamura is literally designed as a punishment for players.

>Objectively the worst map, absolutely nobody likes it
>Based on Overshit to remind you of all its cancer heroes
>Annoying layout with no bushes anywhere
>In every single map rotation so far
>Gets changed and becomes worse
>Can potentially be turned into an endless limbo for people who are unfortunate enough
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>>182578771
Is that an ogre or a dwarf lady?
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>>182578678
That image was apparently from teamleague, where it also happened to the team of grandmasters/pro's.
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>>182578979
Thats Thrall shapeshifted into a dwarf and a female dwarf that he seduces
Deathwing smokes a hookah
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>>182579138
>Two Stukovs
It's quickmatch.
I'm not saying it doesnt happen in team league, but that picture is 100% from quickmatch.
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>>182577894
>taken from leddit
Laffin
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>>182579261
Fuck. I didnt notice that. I *have* heard about TL examples though.
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>>182575725
See if you can get in close and draw some fire from the range. Azmo has more health then some tanks.
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Most people who play Nova are literally retarded, they don't understand how roaming works, how to position themselves and how much stupid burst they can do.
She is obviously still not a very good hero, but braindead playerbase makes it look much worse. I still haven't seen Nova who played better than I do on her, and I know what I play far from perfect.
I am sad my waifu have such a terrible fucking representation in the game.
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if you type slut in the hero search filter only li ming and nova show up
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Welp I did it boys, I found the EXP cap for an AI game
I can finally die without accomplishing anything of any merit and very little of note.
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>>182582134
you can't die yet, you still have many more stimpacks to buy goyim
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>it's a bronze rites malthael on your team episode
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Just a few quick facts about Diablo!
>she's wide
>the w i d e s t !
>extra fertile!
>can breathe fire!
>is the lord of terror!
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>>182582350
>playing against bronze rites malth
>drops it on me after autoing me once
>heal it all back with 2 autos because I'm illidan
at least it looks cool, right team xD
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>>182582134
tell us how pls
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>>182582134
How long are these premade bot games, anyways?
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>>182582134
details?
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what's good against strong backline mages? I never seem to be able to safely get close to them
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>>182583674
Illidan, Genji, Tyrael, Chen, Anub, Zeratul/Valeera to an extent
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>tell dude don't first pick li ming
>he does
>tell him don't go orb build
>he does
>ends up with less damage than lili and 4 times more deaths
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>>182583779
we don't really care
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>>182584126
haha nice post fellow redditor
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>>182582512
>She
Assuming Diablo's gender in 2017, I see
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>>182583485
>>182583497
>>182583654

Around 60 minutes if done properly
Make 5 man for max exp bonus from group size
Add a friend for EXP bonus
Have a stim if you want
First win is not essential unless you want max EXP from 1 game of course.

Find a 3 lane map, leave and requeue with your 5 man if it's 2 lane.
Warhead junction I have found is the easiest to manage the objective.
Beginning of AI game (set on Beginner) allow bots to push all three of your lanes so all structures are down. Soak EXP from minion waves but dont push back at all.
Have 1 person in each lane for max soak, have the other 2 feeding.
Now all 3 lanes structures on your side are fragged push the waves back to mid lane and hold here, don't push their structures just keep things at a stalemate. Still have 2 people feeding.
Objective tactics are map dependant but Obviously you don't want to let the AI frag your core so adjust accordingly.
Get to level 30, let the bots get to level 30, letting them frag your structures is to give them an EXP lead.
Once you hit 30 kill forts but not keeps. Hunt the AI until you have around 450k 460k EXP gained, find this number by mousing over the levels at top of screen next to game timer.
once you have 450k-460k kill keeps and farm more AI kills. you want 500k EXP any more will not yield further EXP on game ending. Surpassing 600k apparently gives you ZERO exp for the game so I never chanced testing that. Frag core once you have around 500-510k EXP
Boom there you go.
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>>182583779
>bad plays badly
>you blame build
Off yourself desu.
If you think some shitter would've died less playing low range risky build than long range poke build you are completely retarded and deserve whatever shitter rank you have,
Off yourself please.
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>>182578963
You forgot that it also is a forced rubber band map.
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>>182575172
>But I- I creep tumors come frome there
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>>182568186
it kills me how many players do noy understand the meta of getting hero kills.
Early game before lvl 7 they are nearly worthless and wave clearing all lanes is the much better choice, getting pressure on forts early is a much needed game starter, hero kills could just be helping the enemy team learn their mistakes and make you pay for the lesson late game when those kills do matter. But regardless the main goal is getting that core destroyed. Sometimes hero kills can help but what helps the most is pressure on forts and keeping track of when to prioritize objectives because it doesn't matter if you have 35 hero kills to there 10, if you ignored that Murky/Azmodan that just pushed all the way to your core you are going to lose that fight.
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>>182584392
>no caring about your shitty story makes me a redditor
wew
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>>182571134
we have a paradox issue then because all the lore tells of how angels and demons had human babies. Also there is lore stating they do have bodies because Azmodan has a file talking about how soft and juicily angel meat is and understood why his armies were growing restless for more. There is -Something- biological under the hood, where it look like a black human or some kind of demon it is there.
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how is stukov's healing fucking fair? unless you can nuke a hero from 100% to 0, you're just wasting your skills
fucking hell
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>Draft UI doesn't tell if pick will be single or double

Why is draft UI so bad?
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>Get 5 free sun's out chests from the random drawing thing.
>Out of 20 items, one (1) is an event item, and it's just a spray that I will never use.
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>>182572634
Brtty gud post
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>>182585592
But is it actual meat or is it a substance that demons can devour?
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>>182584660
>check the hots website
>description says diablo's gender is malleable
she can be whatever he wants to be
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>>182584820
playing orb build on a 3 lane map is guaranteed low damage, yes

>>182585341
no but feeling the need to write it does
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>>182570341
What is Conjurer's Pursuit for 200, Alex?
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>>182585676
>2 weeks in a row without getting anything

Pretty ebin if you ask me.
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>>182585983
Why do you take conjurer's on jaina? are you stupid?
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>>182585731
He calls it meat and another time flesh. Diablo calls it flesh. Hell the Angels claim they have blood. Also I think there is a voice note that states the demons were offended the nephilim look like the angels and not the demons.
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>>182570341
Orc semen is a surprisingly bad resource
just kidding I love cute mages, but she's just so outdated I can't even play her. Raynor 2.0
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>>182585649
I say that about lucio too
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>>182586506
I would assume regardless how angels work when walking around, we know they grow (?) flesh when their wings are removed. So the demons can easily eat angel flesh by just having the extra fun part of tearing off angel wings.
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>sgt hammer keeps saying "hiroshima" whenever someone drops a nuke on warhead junction
Can I report him for racism?
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>>182586858
you'd have to report the owner of 4chan, Hiroshima Nagasaki
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>>182586858
You should report him when he's heading back for a tuna
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>>182586797
Actually the accounts in cut scenes show they have blood and something that is flesh, When Diablo cut into Dick bags it had a very fleshy sound to it and then he started pouring out glowbright blood. There is something living under all that armor.
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>>182584723
too autist of a method to even try
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man i just had my very first ranked game and already feel like shit

i asked everyone who to pick and what do and they still ended up blaming and reporting me (they wanted me to pick li li).
one guy even sent me a friend request and continued harassing me.
i dont know guys this doesnt seem like fun
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>>182587292
>asking people what you should pick
Yeah, don't do this.

Try to have a small pool of heroes that you prefer, ideally with the ability to fill (support, frontline, etc)

Also; you don't have to enable chat. Or play ranked. At the end of the day it's just a game. and nobody cares about rank.
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>>182571134
>>182585592
>>182585731
>>182586506
>>182587164
Until D3 angels were flesh and blood and look like humans under there robes it was just the radiance of looking at one would melt you. D2 Tyrael's appearance was suppose to be unique among angels but that was obviously thrown out the door come D3.
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>>182587547
Nope. d2 angels were supposed to be similar to tyrael as well (based on how izual appeared after you killed him).

However none of this should be new because blizzard aggressively retcons in every fucking game they make.
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>>182587547
>make shitty story in 1992
>20 years laters
>now a lot of new shitty justifications for old shitty story
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>>182587914
Metez stated that they recycled that due to cost and if he ever did a remake he want to use the pic in >>182587547 because he saw Izual as a very traditional looking Lucifer in visuals.
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>>182587292
If you don't have a good number of meta/good enough heroes in your pocket yet, you may wanna stick to unranked for now, at least until you learn who's good when in a draft.
It might also help to watch some people stream their drafts to learn what you should do
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>Hanamura
>My team 27 kills
>Enemy team 8 kills
>Had two forts down on enemy side and none of ours down entire match
>Total fucking steam role entire game
>almost 2 minutes between each cart spawn
>Only win by 2 points
>Comes down to a fight over boss
>Enemy team only down 1 level

Why is this map so awful? Is it like this on purpose? You push your cart in, then wait TEN THOUSAND YEARS INTO THE FUTURE WHERE MY OVER WATCH IS LAW NOW THE FUOL SEEKS TO RETURN TO THE PAST AND UNDO THE FUTURE THAT IS OVER WATCH

This is basically Mario Kart. Every game I play is just waiting for the fucking map to be over and they made it longer. NOBODY FUCKING LIKES THIS SHIT MAP!

I hated Braxis when it first came out, but then it grew on me, I thought "gee maybe Hanmura will grow on me once I understand it", well no I do understand it, and my hatred for this map has only become more detailed in nature. I now just know MORE reasons I hate it.

Fuck it's not even fun to win on this map. Nothing is rewarding.

The camps except the healing one are shit. Make a camp that decreasing your fucking cart spawn time or something, jesus, I don't need a scouting merc camp because I WATCH THE GODDAMN MINIMAP.
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>tfw team can fight but can't play map worth shit

illidan spent like a year trying to solo boss while zag took literally every camp
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>>>182585673
it follows the same pattern every time retard
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>>182588660
>second worst player in the match
>me team bunga
Like pottery
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>>182588992
team includes me dude, I just included the scoreboard to show the kills. Didn't really know how to organize vs them, but it was annoying I was the only one who could really clear creep

Tass does stuff that doesn't directly translate in numbers anyway
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Why the only things I keep getting from summer event are Bikini Stitches skins? Got now almost whole collection of them
And no buldge Tychus, feelsbadman
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>>182589323
>That dull empty cheap plastic thud sound of Bikini stitches attacks

Accurately portray his attack damage.
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new hero when
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more cute elves soon!
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Taste for blood or Sieging Wrath?

Sieging Wrath is quicker and easier to complete but I feel that even with a full Q build, it "only" does 1k damage every 10s which is too easily outhealed by most supports?
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>its a team wants to push instead of get gold on bhb episode
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stukov made playing alarak impossible, that silence and stupid arm move just completely invalidates him
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christ, I hate varian
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>>182588660
>worst xp contribution
>only one kil
>nerfed anubarak got more hero damage
>dont even use the nuke

The problem is you, Crabcakes
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>>182590785
Sieging Wrath.

Taste for Blood takes too long to become relevant, especially without a Leoric, Xul, Jaina, Johanna or whatever to help you stack, ideally from two lanes.

desu his E talents also feel a bit underrated at low mmr
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>>182590785
Taste for blood might be better if you have a stukov to work with you.
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>>182591587
I'll make sure to include myself in the bunga next time to make it more clear
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>>182591587
>referring to people with their bnet id

pervert
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whats a rather fail-safe hero for first time ranked games
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>>182592390
If you feel the need to ask that you shouldn't be playing ranked.
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>>182592524
thanks for the advice
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Why the fuck is Genji still in the game?
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>>182592390
Raynor, Valeera, Butcher
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>>182593143
same reason why d.va is in
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>>182593143
>mada mada
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Just played a game where our illidan literally only took camps and ignored everything and everyone. Why do people do this?
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>>182593934
they miss farming from lol and dota
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>>182593934
Pushing PvE to the limit
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>>182593934
you would be pretty mad if tyrande cucked you for 10000 years too
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>arthas walks through literally the entire enemy team to try and kill genji
>li ming and valla are always out of position and get focused
>"first time playing stukov?"
Sometimes I don't know about QM, man.
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Is that a typical Nova?
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>>182594543
>Only delete his nick
>Not the others
r u d e
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>queuing on weekend is stupid, it's nothing but shitters
"OK, I'll queue weekday evenings"
>teammates are even fucking worse than weekends
Why do I even try? There is literally nothing I can do that changes the result.
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>>182594543
>2 deaths
No, they're usually worse, also Jesus you guys got Molly whooped, wtf happened in that game?
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>>182594838
have to wait until summer is over and the kids go away
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>>182594838
What rank are you friends? Also if you're just playing QM it should be all about learning not only from your mistakes, but the mistakes of others, I bet if you take the time, you'll notice enemies doing what your team was doing and you'll learn to capitalize on it
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>>182594838
Why do you think there's a magical special secret time where only good people queue? Are you brain damaged?
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>>182595394
is grubby a secret bogdanoff descendant?
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>>182595368
Because literally everyone says don't queue on weekends?
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>>182595065
talking about hero league
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why does it say varian was 33% of team fight damage on the mvp screen when I had more hero damage?

does swapping to molten core mess up the stats or something?
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>>182595527
take the grubb pill
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>>182595710
key word being team fight
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>>182588452
scouting mercs are absolutely retarded on a 2 lane map where theres nothing to do but push forts or a payload you can clearly see WITH the amount of people pushing it as well
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>keep spamming fall back pings at team
>they walk back for a bit and then engage again
>repeat all the way from enemy core trough our keep and fort
>constantly someone dying so it's 3v5 all the time
>literally lose to one 5 minute push from enemy core all the way to ours
>kill two enemy keeps as Abathur while these faggots are throwing the game
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rexxar is fun
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>>182596171
You mean Misha?
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>>182595939
does it make a difference between team fight damage and skirmish/poke damage?
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just found out you can't play heroes that you don't have at level 5 in ranked
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>>182595691
Well,
What rank are you friend
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>>182596262
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>>182594964
oh, awesome "don't play for four months, it'll be fine."
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>>182596519
relax buddy
that was just my 4th placement match
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>>182596234
not entirely sure but I believe it has to do with having a certain number of team mates within proximity of each other. 1v1s and 2v2s probably don't count towards "team fight damage"
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Why do the sharkbite variant surfboards exist. My past 3 pity legendaries have been those eyesores.
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>>182596861
truly a mystery
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I like to imagine that d.va is in to femdom and is open about it to her stream
>if we reach today's donation goal, I'll add another week to Anon's chastity sentence!
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should I get d.va or varian.

note that whichever one I don't get will be the next one I get, so its really a question on who I should get first.
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>>182597259
d.va if you are a cuck like
>>182597125
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>>182597259
Varian is the much safer pick
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>>182597259
Varian, that way you'll forget about D-va
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>have universal carrier on with quest'd bio kill switch for more healing
>enemy xul poison nova's team
>press D
>entire poison damage gone from every team member
>press q and immediately start heals over time again
loving stukov, he's going to get nerfed into the fucking ground but i'm going to enjoy playing him while it lasts
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>>182597382
>universal carrier
But this talent is shit, anon-kun
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post your stukov nerf predictions:
>significantly decreased D healing
>the level 4 bio killswitch quest removed or reworked
>mana per second added to e

one or more of the above 100%, what else?
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>>182597382
>universal carrier
>he didnt finish the quest around lvl 13 or so
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>>182597382
>universal carrier
>not timing D's when the pathogen is traveling to not have to recast Q
your brain isn't big enough for that build anon
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Why cant playing diablo heroes feel more like this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEyk63UaBI4
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>>182597573
If anything he will see buffs to broken/shit talents before his numbers get tuned back.

D healing is fine, the 5 second CD talent is the issue.
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Tracer or Zul'Jin /hotsg/?
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>>182597779
Neither lol
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>have cho'gall both at level 1

>no one to play with and get them to 5 for some easy gold and boxes.
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>>182598012
>spend 10k gold
>to get them both to 5
that's quite the return on your investment, you're gonna net a whole 1k gold from that
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>>182598012
EU or NA?
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>>182597779
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>>182597573
>decreased D healing
>E having a lock in channel time to reduce mobility
>huge autoattack damage nerf even though it's the only self defense he has, just because tracer/genji mains are going to whine about it
>shove cooldown increase
>shove armor reduction
>detonating Q will detonate projectiles in progress of travelling so universal carrier isn't irrelevant because blizzard really loves that talent
he's going to get dumpstered because blizzard is retarded and think that the average support should be around tyrande's level and not around where uther/rehgar is at

he's overpowered right now but he needs minor retuning, that isn't going to happen though because reddit is whining hardcore about him ATM
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>>182598208
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0G8znfy_hs
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>>182598320
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>>182597779
tracer is absolute fucking garbage and zuljin is the homeless person who sits around the trashheap

so zuljin
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Abathur buffs when?
Playing him in in QM is complete RNG if you win or lose
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>>182598320
>tracer feet
!!!
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>>182598320
tracer is a lesbian
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>>182598696
there's nothing wrong with licking lesbian feet and you know it.
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>>182598604
>>182598382
Tarantino pls
>>182598696
Not when lifeguarding she isnt.
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>>182598696
thats just blizz jew lies for publicity
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>>182597779
tracer is good and cute and not a lesbian
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>>182576438
>reach level 10
>pick demonic invasion
>walk up to fort
>press R
repeat until you have at least gorillion siege damage
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>3 specialists and 2 healer on my team
>2 assassins, 2 healer, and a tank on the other

just your average qm experience of trying to play a specialist
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>>182598104
Can you not get Cho'gall for free anymore?
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>>182598104
>not opening cho'gall from boxes

rofl
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IRzpGj3bD4

:(
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>>182599732
You could get him at the beginning of the last year or something for playing 10 games with a friend with Chogall (he was free to play) as far I remember, now you have to buy him.

Althought when you buy him you will get both Cho and Gall together for 10K g
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>>182599827
>not having luck
laffin @ noobs rn git gud scrubs
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>>182587045
Is sashimi patrician?
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>>182594221
Tyrande is CUTE!
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>>182598696
Only for Widowmaker
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>>182599893
The chance of getting a hero drop has to be below 1% right. Sure seems like it.
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How do you even deal damage to heroes as Samuro? You have to literally be right next to them and the stealth has long enough cooldown that it can't be used as escape and initiate.
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>>182602421
You pop out of a bush and bodyblock them with your mirror images, hopefully with the assistance of an ally.

More often though, you don't, because as Samuro your job is to be the eternal jungler because he was hit so badly with the nerf bat that's literally all he's good for.
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Is Murky the most anti tilting hero ever?
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>>182602421
You stealth, wait until it has around 5 seconds left and do images plus two crits
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>mastery taunt effects top at level 75
Where's my level 100 taunt effect?
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>>182602421
>samuro
>pvp
Go invade their mercs and/or take a structure.

>>182602583
Yeah, along with Abathur, Nunu and Singed.
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>>182602583
What does that even mean?
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>>182602421
He's an ambusher, not a teamfighter. You jump niggers that can't fight you and you win.
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>tfw lurking arm bugs out and just makes you walk to the location you tried to cast at
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>>182603121
sweepstakes emails are going out for the last week, check your emails my dudes

>get 50 chests
>6 legends
>all dupes
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>>182597679
dumbass kid, they cant hurt you!
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>everyone said stukov would be op as fuck
>he has the lowest win rate of all healers
?
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>>182604189
>bronzies vs nova
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>>182603957
>Nothing for the second week in a row
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>>182598270
>huge autoattack damage nerf even though it's the only self defense he has, just because tracer/genji mains are going to whine about it
nah
maybe slower, but I don't think the whole BIG MEATY ATTACK gimmick will get nerfed
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>>182604189
THATS WHAT YOU THINK SHITHEAD.
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>>182604401
I like him even more because of that. All those faggots who picked him because they thought he was supposed to be OP will be gone and I will play my Vice Admiral UED be hailed in peace

Also his W is so damn hard to land compared to his (and not only his other spells) and the sole purpose of his W is the slow, the damage is almost nonexistant, they should make it better, doesn't sounds like virus, it should be something like Living bomb
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>tfw your team of shitters compare your stats to the enemy abathurs stats
>they don't understand you can't do shit as abathur if your team is literal shitters
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I fucking swear, each time you play TLV in Quickmeme, you're guaranteed to get a nova on the enemy team that is relentelss at chasing you, or an illidan
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>>182604401
P-people just haven't figured him out yet! Although I think malth started out around 50% and just kept climbing.
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>>182605057
Malth was pretty bad and he just went up, even after they gave him a small nerf he just kept climbing up.
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I'll wait for buffs before levelling him to five, screw it.

>>182602627
Something special about five seconds?

>>182603121
With these QM comps, I can't even think of someone who can't fight me. I say that despite having been bullied by loads of samuros in QM because I'm trash.

But yeah, any AOE or silence or blind or root. I don't know.
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>just got my 4th bikini stitches
>0 other summer skins

reeeeeeeeeeee
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>>182605215
>tfw have 2-3 tints of each skin including the legendary one but don't play any of the heroes and have better skins for each of them anyway

They really should let us trade shit we don't want for shards.
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>lose a game
>send a message to someone telling him only shitbag nerds play nova
>he can't message me cause i turned it off
>he invites me to a party
uh oh, wut do i do?
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>>182605928
>actually messaging people post game to be a salty ballsack
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>>182606002
i am a salty ballsack, so what.
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>>182606002
Not only that but being butthurt about fucking Nova.
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>>182605928
I've gotten salty and talked a lot of shit in chat but how salty do you have to be to go through the effort of whispering someone after a game?
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>>182606291
not much, tbqh.
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>>182606243
I usually pick someone out and shit talk them regardless if they beat me or not, which isn't often, actually, I just do it because I'm insecure and an asshole.
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when the blizzjew is merciful
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What's up with some people sending friend requests after lost games?
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>>182606647
where do you check this
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What is the best surfboard mount? I decided to craft one.
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>>182604490
didnt shoo the blizz jew hard enough
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>>182587547
>Metzen is a shit artist as much as he's a shit writer
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>>182599272
cor blimey what artist is that
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>>182607187
Who didn't know this?
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>YFW Hybrid gets a proper character AND Skins for Diablo and Angels
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>>182604676
Abathur is literally the least team dependant hero ingame, at least stat wise.
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>play 8 games
>win one
Abathur buffs in QM when? Can I have an ulti that spawns a hero of my choosing instead of a murky?
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>>182605928
>whispering people
>being too much of a pussy to let them whisper back
Get out
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>>182608254
lol, no. it pisses off nerds like you. i enjoy rattling you and you can't do shit about it. do i really have to listen to your unoriginal "u mad" faggoty bullshit when I want to talk shit to you?
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>>182608207
Go shield build 1 and 4. You do far more healing than anything you get matched up against.
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>literal bots playing QM
When will Blizzard ban these botters?
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>>182608441
You don't accept whispers back because you know your argument skills are pathetic and everyone will call you out for sucking.
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>>182608565
I never suck, even when I lose, it's really just my team. I'm an asshole and can't stand losing, so I put it on someone that did well on the other team. Sue me.
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>>182608492
Not when the shitters in your team keep going in 1v3 and dying instantly
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>>182608541
that would require spending their shekels to hire gms so never
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>>182608629
You sound like a huge faggot.
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>>182608565
>>182608629
And tbqh, most people I talk shit to can't come up with anything other than "u mad lol", or something equivalent. Honestly, you fucking newfags suck at talking shit, and it bores me. This generation, I swear, has no fucking stomach for throwing it back and forth. They lower themselves to memes and that's it.
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The first legendary I get since the start of sun's out with constant playing is a shitty non-event mount that i'll never use

A nice way to compliment the qm I just had with level 30's who never went to the objective on ToD
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>>182608815
Thanks. I'm quite proud of it. I'm actually kind of surprised I haven't been banned yet. Riot Games may be gay as fuck, but they caught be early. Blizzard must only care about the money, which I fork over quite a bit because I'm white, have a job, and make all kinds of dosh.
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>Play QM with friends
>Teams are heavily unbalanced
>Friends screams about not being able to carry
>Tell them it would help to not go twin blade
>They say its op while constantly dying

I mean it doesn't help we get an aba while they get stukov/medic, but there are definitely a lot of things that could have been improved.
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>>182608629
>>182608819
Let's see your rank, shitter.
>calling people newfags when you came here two years ago

t. Grandmaster oldfag
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>>182609549
Maybe you shouldn't be friends with 15 year olds.
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>>182609594
They are 30 years old with kids. Still age doesn't really matter to act like a child.
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>>182609586
hold on, lemme find a pic of grandmaster on the internet.
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So on Zeratul, every guide recommends Seeker in the Dark or Wormhole on level 7, but I've found far more success with a second charge of Blink than either of those. Wormhole seems like it can be useful, but you only have 2 seconds. And I've never really had trouble sticking to someone so what do I need Seeker for?
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>Stukov complains that we aren't pinging around the map, and instead of looking at the mini map, runs off and dies
>We are winning an almost landslide and he bitches and complains and just pushes a lane for the rest of the match and provides nothing but feeding.
I can understand a losing game, but why throw a perfectly good one?
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>>182610045
>not even attempting to lie
I applaud your honor, if not your bronze 5 skill.
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>>182610189
Both provide you a second teleport without making your primary teleport have double the cooldown.
Seeker is preferred due to also giving you movement speed, letting you jump forward twice, synergy with 16, and letting you use it independently. Wormhole is notable for not caring about minions or heroes between you and your target, and being easier to use, but it's strictly inferior, since if you're playing Zeratul you should be slightly competent at least.
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>>182610197
I'm gold, actually. I should be Platinum, but I refused to play a good hero for a dozen games to make a point and it dropped me a fuck ton during placement.
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>>182610468
>good
>throwing ranked games on purpose
Pick one
Not to mention
>any hero bad in this game below diamond
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>>182610532
Why just one?
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>>182610624
Since to be good means wanting to win above all else. You obviously don't.
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when does this piece of shit event end?
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>>182610468
>I refused to play a good hero for a dozen games to make a point
Okay.

>Gold
>hero viability
hm
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>>182610748
In like two weeks.
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>>182610680
lol, how does it feel to be a autistic virgin?
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>>182610748
"""""event"""""

>some cosmetics and one summer-themed brawl that lasted a week
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>>182610792
thanks
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>>182610794
>dude these fucking newfags can't insult for shit
>autistic virgin

Settle down cucklord, you played yourself.
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>>182610760
>>182611206
All you niggers are the same, it's not even amusing anymore. I wonder how many of you talk to yourselves over and over in this general like you're a bunch of fucking badasses and everyone else in this game is shit. I bet there are some srs pros here.
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>>182611446
Global Rules
2. You will immediately cease and not continue to access the site if you are under the age of 18.
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>>182611206
>gets called out for being memelords
>responds by being a memelord
Holy shit.
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>>182610794
>autistic virgin

>>182611446
I do believe that you have lost your "cool", friend.
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>>182611912
Nah. I only come here to knot your panties. You pussies are too easy.
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>>182610851
Hey, the free lootboxes aren't bad.

>>182612016
>merely
>pretending
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>>182612141
Too bad you can't prove otherwise.
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>>182612202
>get called out for being gold
>fuck you autistic virgin niggers
>wtf im not mad I was just baiting

Like, there's nothing wrong with being Gold.
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>>182612359
Never said there was, tbqh. I'm there because I did it to myself.
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>>182612141
>free lootboxes
>implying

I ain't got shit.
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>>182605215

i have 1 barabulge tychus but also 4 bikini stiches. i swear they're doing it on purpose.
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>Want stukov bad.
>Have 45k gold.
>But still waiting for Kel' Thuzad.

Should I do it /hotsg/?
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>>182612609
You've got enough gold to buy both, and you'll be making gold along the way, why not?
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>>182612609
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>>182612609
>have 200k
>still haven't bought dva
I suffered through one game of her during free week. Literally murky except boring.
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>hey remember back when Odin gave Tychus a second health bar?
>everyone hated it and we nerfed it
>yeah yeah, but what if we made a character that was like that, but instead of an ult they just had that ALL THE TIME?
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someone explain what sapper spawns are?
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>>182613702
The pumpkins in tower of doom and the balls that they revmoed from hanamura.
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>>182594543
>vikings with the top dmg
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>>182594543
>>182615143
>Tracer with only 24k damage
>Li-ming with 23k.

How is it even possible to be out damaged by Vikings?
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several games in a row with throwing retards. who the hell tries to solo a boss with d.va as objective spawns? christ
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>>182616464
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Kel'thuzad next right?
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>>182617259
where are my warcraft heroes anyways? all these other universes are just guest stars
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Where the fuck is grommash?
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>>182618230
>garrosh is a skin for grommash
I can't wait for all the edgelord tears
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Is there a way to practice Medivh without playing QM and getting a team that Medivh is useless on?
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>>182618683
You will be useless as Medihv unless you are in HGC
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>>182618683
firstpick in HL

remember that the game uses skill-based matchmaking, so even if you throw 10 games in a row and drop down to a lower league you will be able to climb back up to your previous rank just by playing normally and not picking medivh
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>>182618683
By spamming him in Ranked/Unranked until the realization that comp isn't the issue sets in.
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>>182617259
Ladies and gentlemen, start your engines!
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>>182620030
This is fine.

>>182618683
>getting a team that Medivh is useless on?
Medivh is always useless.
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Do people in ranked constantly drop and rejoin every match while also being completely unaware of the map? Because if not it might be time to start playing ranked instead of QM.
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What're some strong "junglers". Like people that can take camps and push/depush lanes mostly on their own?
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>>182620030
I want the autoattack while moving cancer to stop.
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>>182620556
Sonya
Samuro
Misha
Zagara (Nydus)
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>>182620556
Gazlowe
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>>182620556
>>182620835
A few slipped my mind.

Illidan
Gazlowe
Arthas
Sylvanas
Rehgar(?)
Artanis (Amateur Opponent)

Just a few heroes capable of clearing merc camps in a somewhat timely/healthy fashion. Not sure about new Thrall. Various others become better at taking them as the game progresses, though, like The Butcher after midgame.
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Welcome to QM, where anything goes and the comp doesn't matter.
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>>182621428
Rehgar can safely push/camp but he's not very fast at it.
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>>182621883
Ye, I was hesitent to put him in there, thus the little "?".

>>182621748
I've seen weirder comps in ranked.
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>>182621748
QM is filled with really, really bad bots.
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>>182622104
>I was hesitent to put him in there,
He does have the niche of being the only support that can so there you go.
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>enjoy muradin a ton
>feel useless when play him
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Is it me of does Valla, Tyrande, Kerrigan and almost all other female characters have huge curvy asses?
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>>182622575
stop using leap to initiate
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>>182622679
Just play Zagara then.
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>DIE, INSECTS
>Stand to the side of the lane and ping retreat
>Allies run in to dunk their heads on the wave and lose half their health, and are easily finished off by gmane
>"dude wtf you bailed on us"

they literally could not be more obvious telling you where the fuck the ult is coming from
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>>182622679

Yeah, Valla's got a nice fat ass
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>>182623867
>be genji
>jump into lava wave
>activate deflect
haha, that was fun
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>>182624675
HA HA AGAIN
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>Ley Line Seal at 80% pick rate in Masters/Diamond
Are they just better at taking advantage of the stasis?
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I feel like a lot of my losses in HL are getting outpushed by the other team, even if our teamfight is better, especially on larger maps

what heroes do I pick to try and remedy this
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>>182625921
To push better yourself? Sylv, heavy dps heroes, competent teammates that know when to take a fort while people are distracted
To defend against a team push? Sylv helps quite a bit, DVA specifcaly on braxis (Nerf this does normal damage to zerg), Gul'Dan, though with all of these you still need others to respond, too
To stop splitpush? Globals of any kind really
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>>182626147
Sylv is shit. Her escape is not even a good escape. Xul or Azmodan, even Murky, is a better pick for pushing.
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>>182627207
those three are better for splitpushing
sylv is better for letting your team stroll up to any random building and wreck it, aka pushing
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>>182627207

You probably aren't using it right.

Protip: Toss phantom, run in another direction not along with it
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>every supported twitch streamer is a chick or tranny
Fucking Blizzard, I swear.
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>>182627415
Oddish is the only tranny the rest are girsl and that fuccboi marche.
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>>182627495
There was one yesterday that was a tranny and it wasn't whoever Oddish is.
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>>182627536
It was oddish he changed his stream name unless you're talking about that yunaleska girl who is so ugly that people think she is a tranny.
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>>182627415
>>182627495
>>182627536
Honestly, if it wasn't for hots, I would have written Blizzard off ever since they hired this dopey faggot to write shit for them;
http://wowwiki.wikia.com/wiki/Alex_Afrasiabi
Some piece of shit whines about Everquest raids and that somehow makes him qualified to write quests for your shitty game? Fuck off, cunts.
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>being chased as Greymane
>Super low, no darkflight
>but there is a retchling right behind me
>throw cocktail at it and kill the guy

thank you wretchling
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>>182606291
Most that whisper post game have messages block for themseves so it's like a weird passive aggressive salt.
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I've gotten whispered once, but it was to compliment me.
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Did you guys here the rumor? I heard that there is treasure on the docks. At least that is the word going around.

Hey after these goys beat each other up, lets turn our cannon on both of them, whaddya say?
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>Win 2 games? Sure, I can knock that out in a half-hour!
Is this matchmaking 2.0 or just summer vacation?
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>>182629327
reminder that if all you care about is completing a win x games quest, playing bot games is much more definite
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Gul'Dan has exactly 0 good skins what the fuck
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>>182629560
It's boring, though. I like a bit of a challenge, but not "You + lv 30 nova + 2 supports + illidan vs. 5 lv 900s w/ perfect comp" x fucking 7 challenging.
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>>182623867
Bet you anything they didn't even know the damage came from the wave itself. I know so many idiots that just think it hurts minions and not heroes.
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>enemy team is always moving, getting camps and going for objetives
>your team is full of lol players that pick assassins and keeps farming lanes all game

I've been playing for maybe only 2 months and i can't take this salt anymore.
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>>182625396
They're also unretarded enough to avoid spreading polybomb to their teammates.
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>>182627207
Protip if you think sylvanas is a splitpush hero you are literally retarded.

She is an extremely strong PUSH hero, as long as she has 3-4 teammates and a boss or punisher or something hitting the fort she is stunning.
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>>182627842
does retchling even do anything
why do people pick that talent
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>>182630525
desu I only really take it if they enemy doesn't have enough stuns for flea bag, the extra range on slam isn't really relevant
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>haunted mines
>play malf
>everyone goes in to the mines
>sylv keeps pushing lanes
>try to stop her because nobody else is
>lose a fort each time it happens
>valla says "you should always be with the team even if they are doing something wrong"
>she spends the rest of the game clearing waves
>lose
Grubby faggots should be banned.
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>>182627415
70% of there active users identify as female.
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Why is pox populi by far the most picked? Especially considering vigorous reuptake is by far the most picked level 4 talent. There is zero synergy there. Seems like it would be way better to get universal carrier so the team is always prepped for the D.
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You need far more training!
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it's always the worst player in the team doing this

some amazing plays by him earlier was trying to medivac to the enemies core and then raging we didn't 5 man it, when we had 2 people dead.

This game they suicided 1v5 versus the enemy team at the turn in point when they didn't even have enough coins, then raged at the team for not defending turn in when all he did was feed them coins so they could pay
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>>182631009
She was right for the class you were playing.
Go global if you want to be able to give them the bird and do your own thing
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>>182631009
>play a heal support
>solo a lane and leave the team fighting an enemy team with heal support
Shit man what did you think would happen? I hate it when I'm a healer and my team won't do what is needed but bailing on them to try and do what I can't is just ensuring a full loss.
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>>182632330
The only thing me being with the team would have accomplished would have been losing sooner. Which in hindsight would probably have been for the best.
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need a new name for a smurf account, give me your worst
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Why does Xul do so much fucking baka now
And the heal at 20 is retarded
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>>182632423
If the team is ignoring sylv on a 2 lane map you will lose anyways. She could easily get a fort and the keep walls. Probably even do some keep damage before everyone was done in the mines.
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>>182632720
I'll also note this happened not once, not twice but three times.
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>>182630525
enemy team has no stuns
slam is shit
can eat a skillshot for papa stitches
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>>182572236

Some times, you take warbringer if you're a man. Manlets can take shield wall when they want to avoid HITTING ENEMIES CONTINUOUSLY, getting MVP for having LOTS OF KILLS and winning the game.
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>>182630525
If Tracer is on the map and you hit her with it as she close the gap it will always stick the bomb to the retchling rather Stitches, actually anyone in melee distance will auto target the retchling if going after stitches.
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>>182632720
>>182632720

Then either stop playing supports that need a team to work or find some friends. I have no sympathy for your failings, you went in with a hero that needs a team to work then grumble that the team didn't work out right. Get good with hero that can micromanage the map better or stop being a pussy bitch hiding behind your bunga team for your losses
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>>182633961
I want lolg cancer to leave.
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>>182630525
It works as a faster wave clear/counterpush, where you devour a late game wave and send retchlings down the lane with your minions.
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>>182634059
You're the cancer playing with randoms with a hero that needs a team to even work right on QM then bitching about it here.
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>>182634170
>just carry the team :^)
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>>182634225
That's what you are basically asking for playing a support role.
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>>182634341
Supports enable carries. They don't carry. When the team is doing something wrong that WILL lose the game I have every right to complain. If you don't like it and cant keep your tism in check long enough to not reply then just hide the post.
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>>182634524
And I have ever right to point out what a huge faggot you are setting yourself up for failing then crying over it. I would tell you again to get friends but I'm starting to see why you haven't yet. You even admitted that 3 for 3 you play a role that has little control over the map then cry strangers won't do as you ask.
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>>182597382
>have universal carrier.
>have to wait 15 seconds to heal anyone because his Q becomes negligable at 40%.
>realize I just fucking nerfed myself mid-game.
It literally makes you weaker than not taking a talent at all.
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>>182634710
I'm not even the guy you're arguing with but you genuinely need to go back to lol
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>>182634524
>Supports enable carries.
Pretty sure that hasn't been the case for almost a year now. Our new boy, Infected Russian, certainly can do that but Malf, Morals, and others can't if the team even has a drop of cc in their builds. Now good tanks that know when to initiate, they have the power to enable carries.
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>>182634858
>>182634524
>I'm not even the guy you're arguing with
>When the team is doing something wrong that WILL lose the game I have every right to complain.
do you even look over your own posts?

>>182634864
Even with Stukov it's more thanks to his powerful silence abilities and not his healing.
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>>182634976
>he's still going
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>>182634976
Have one last (You).
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>>182634225
That's called split pushers.
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>>182575172
JACKPOT!
Where can I find rule 34 of her?
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>>182635097
Playing only zagara and azmodan gets boring after a while.
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>>182578189
>>182578304
Come to mama~
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>>182634524
I'm not sure supports are as strong in this meta as you think they are. They have their uses but in a game where pushing to the core is a win, split pushers, globals, and wave clearing wins the game. In fact that was what lead to >>182631009 defeat was a strong push with a wave clearer.
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>>182631603
universal carrier is shit tier except with targeted excision

otherwise your Q cooldown is shorter than D anyways
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>>182635181
I never get board with Azmodan myself, that fat bastard just has so much you can do to bring grief to the enemy team that it's always a treat.
>win rate of 81%
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I still don't understand how Uther is considered a solo support and best healer, like both of his heals are one 12 second cooldowns until he completes some quests/late game talents, it doesn't seem like enough if there's someone like Gul'Dan just raining shit on your whole team
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>>182635464
Gul'Dan gets a hammer anytime he tries to pull shit. Like Stukov, Uther shines because he not only heals but helps control the fight in your favor.
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>>182635356
It's more about already having the Q on everyone so if anyone gets focused you aren't using your D on just 1 person.

>>182635464
Congrats you discovered uther is bad against poke.
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>>182634806
fun fact: the healing-over-time from univeral carrier is actually LOWER than just spamming untalented Q on cooldown for 30 mana every 10 seconds
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>>182635181
Murky and Abathur can do it as well if you are not stupid with them.
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To be honest, fuck hots. Way too many retards playing this game without a basic understanding of soaking and when / how to fight for objectives. In league at least every retard is bound to a role and even if he sucks at it he can't do too much wrong strategy wise.
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>>182635464
the W talent at 1 improves his solohealing a ton and you don't need to complete the quest to benefit from it
the quest just increases the duration of his armor passive
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>>182634524
>Supports enable carries
>this is what Bronze players actually believe
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>>182635705
>play a game with skill-based matchmaking
>complain about low skill players on you're team
hmmmmmmmmmm
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>>182635836
Say that to my face and not online you little bitch.
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>>182631603
Because it has the most beneficial effect.
Superstrain is situationally dependent on if the enemy has stuns, can be good on high stun comps.
Eye infection is pretty useless unless you're going for a meme damage build since you'd have to sacrifice your D's on blinds instead of heals.
Healing pathogen looks neat on paper, but it reduces your healing to a point that's pretty detrimental in poke-wars, leaving your main healing source to be exclusively your D. I've tried this talent a few times and it feels more of a burden than a bonus.
Pox Populi is the best one here because it's just a straight upgrade to healing numbers.
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>>182635836
>ywn live to see illidan+tassadar+abathur hypercarry comps become good again again
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>>182635931
I meant Universal Carrier instead of Healing Pathogen there.
It's 2am, I'm tired.
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>>182635849
I don't even care about losing or winning at this point, the retards are just too infuriating to keep playing hots even while winning they just run around like headless chickens.
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>>182635904
Why isnt Tass a Support/Specialist multiclass? He can fit the bill with how many reworks and touch ups he gets
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>>182635931
>>182635995
universal carrier's niche is with targeted excision
hit someone with a W and then time the D for right when the pathogen is mid-air spreading from one hero to another. you'll heal your whole team and the pathogen will keep going so you'll be able to give them the D again in 5 seconds
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>>182635931
Expect you have to use your D to get anything out of pox populi. If you use your D while getting poked and then get dived you're fucked.
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>>182636035
That would open the floodgates of every person crying that X needs to be changed to this.
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>>182635950
swap tracer with illidan and you have that reality right now
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>>182636108
Sounds more like you have control issues.
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>>182635631
It's really not that difficult to have your Q pre-spread during a fight.
As soon as you seen your tank or whoever your front line is start taking damage, just pop it on him and position yourself strategically to spread it to the rest of your teammates.
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>>182636108
honestly I find it better even as just putting it on people as we walk to a fight and then popping my D as needed so I don't have to wait for it to spread if everyone takes a crapload of burst
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>supports can't carrier
>stukov LITERALLY has universal carrier
uhhh lolbabs?
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>Enemy has Azmodan lazer build
>Have no stuns/silence to counter
>Watch him push our shit in while having no way to peel off the lazer no matter how far you run

The range on it was too insane they made it even more crazy being able to move with it.
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>>182636145
univeral carrier nerfs your Q but leaves D the same, so your healing is worse than before EXCEPT when you use D
pox populi keeps your heal the same and buffs your D, so your healing is just as good as it was before and your D is even better
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>>182636239
You're leaving yourself a pretty narrow window do deal with any damage the tank gets if you wait for it to spread to everyone.

According to hotslogs stukov has a 46.5% winrate so either the current popular build is sub-optimal or he needs buffed.
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>>182636108
Theoretically that would work, but that's acting under the assumption that you can consistently land one E in the middle of combat while keeping track of your carrier spread between teammates and timing your D's perfectly to occur during a middair transfer. It's literally too much to track during combat variables where literally anything can happen.
That's like saying Tracer is the best hero in the game because if you just use her mobility to never ever get hit, then you'll always win.
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>>182636325
I won many games carrying as Rehgar/Tass/Khara/Tyrande/Uther so its very possible to do it. People who play full on supports that have no real damage that are forced to rely on their team usually can't carry for shit no matter how much they think they can.
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>>182636145
You're literally just reinforcing my original point.
If I'm getting poked, I won't NEED to D because my Q can actually heal me.
If I was using Universal Carrier, I'd need to D early because my Q would be crap and wouldn't heal me, thus enacting your model.
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>>182636528
I'm just saying that's the only situation where Universal Carrier outperforms the other options.

It's not as impossible as it sounds though, hitting D during the transfer is pretty easy and you have a 3 second window to detonate after you land a W.
And even if you don't do the timing thing, Universal Carrier + Excision still lets you D in a fight and then Q+D again 5 seconds later.
The timing thing is only necessary to do it more than two times.
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>>182636514
Since I'm not taking universal carrier, the heal from my Q is healing the damage he's getting.
Opposed to if I had universal carrier, I'd have to pop D early and wait for the 15 second CD to do any more healing to anyone on my team.
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>>182636850
I think you greatly overestimate the healing Q does without D. Your basically getting a tyrande heal over 4.5 seconds.
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So are Diablo hero's main theme creating/abusing terrain? Like how Overwatch's is moving and shooting and starcrafts is pushing

>Auriel/Diablo: slam into walls
>Naz/Leoric/Sonya/Tyrael: Create walls
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>>182636712
But it's basically pointless anyway, because in order to constantly land E's, you have to cast E, which has a 10 sec CD, which is the same as your Q.
You're only saving yourself about 5 seconds from detonating your Q's in the long run assuming you land everything, while losing 60% of your Q healing in the first place.
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>>182636514
According to hotslogs in HL, in QM he has above 50% but it says he is the least popular fella around...which is wrong since i meet him in 80% of games.
HL meta didnt find a spot for him yet.
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>>182636974
That's what he's saying anon.
Universal Carrier reduces Q's healing by 60% in exchange for increasing its uptime from 4.5 out of every 10 seconds to 10 out of every 10 seconds.

Q is good, UNLESS you take universal carriert, in which case it becomes 60% less good.
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>>182637168
>Q is good
Because tyrande is such a popular solo support, right? By not taking universal carrier you are basically trading better sustain against poke for a much harder time dealing with a dive.
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>>182637286
In the long run Pox Populi will heal alot more than your shitty 40% hot
Universal carrier is bad and you should feel bad
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>>182637395
Uther is the #1 support because he is great against dive. Not because of his amazing numbers on the board.
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>>182637472
We aint discussing Uther and Stukov is designed on purpose to get screwed by diving into him
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>>182636974
it's not about overestimating or underestimating, it's about having it at all. if you take UC, you won't have any healing to deal with poke damage any more. Sure, you'll have situationally more burst healing at specific opportune moments, but if the enemy has a nova, chromie, ming, etc.(not the cow) then you won't have any way to patch up teammates that get hit by stray projectiles.
Nothing stops you from taking Targeted Excision with pox populi anyway, so you're sacrificing your heal over time just so you have to keep less track on landing your Q's properly.
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>>182636343
it also ignores line of sight, so when Samuro or Vale try to go invisible it won't break the laser so when Tracer bolts or teleports it won't break if it's still in the circle. Basically it's either you stun him or have a seriously good peel ability.
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>>182637542
The one who designed him said he was meant to be a solo healer. You cannot be a solo healer and be bad against dive.
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>>182637620
Sure you can, Stukov can top off his whole team for 40 to 80 mana.
Please stop projecting your incompetence on Stukov and stick with Uther if you want 1# support.
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>>182637286
You can't compare Tyrande in this situation. Yes, both heals do about 250ish, but Tyrande's doesn't spread across teammates. Tyrande's sucks because it's single target, while Stukov's is basically a guaranteed teamwide heal.
And no, you can still take targeted excision with Pox Populi, which still allows you to double D. There's functionally no difference other than that you're sacrificng your Q heal just so you don't have to cast it again mid combat.
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>>182637775
>everyone is bad but me
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>tfw Illidan will never be good again
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>>182637875
>look ma, im HL pro
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>>182635157
rampage0118
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>>182637976
>QM
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>>182635443

same. i can play azmo for autistic amounts of time and he's my go-to hero for breaking a losing streak (well, him or zeratul, depends how i'm feeling).

laser build is unironically one of the most fun builds in the game.
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>>182638091
>implying you play HL worth a damn
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>>182638171
Murky OP pls nerf :(
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>>182637976
The only thing that matters in QM is wave clear. Stukov has the best wave clear of all the supports and thus his numbers will be inflated.
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>>182638360
And things that matter in HL is clutch healing,cc and utility talents. Uther has best utility and this his numbers will be inflated.
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>>182638517
I don't know. Uther is still #4 out of all heroes in QM.
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>qm game
>end up fighting your mirror in lane
>decisively beat them there
>go on to win the game
>but they had literally higher stats than you in basically everything
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>>182638647
Whole discussion was about universal carrier on Stukov and now we are talking about Uther.
Meanwhile original guy didnt even post his Stukov win %
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>>182638734
>Meanwhile original guy didnt even post his Stukov win %
What would the point of that even be?
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>>182638715
>teammate calls you out on it when they just walk into every one of their skillshots
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>>182638916
Complaining that Stukov is bad and that universal carrier is best means he either has terrible % or that he is an average player stuck in trench
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>>182639016
This is only master and diamond league. He seems to be objectively the worst support right now. Time will tell if it's a build problem or him just being weak.
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>>182639214
>malth released
>/hotsg/ swears up and down he's balanced and you just need to ward his jungle
>near 60% winrate, 90+% pick/ban rate
>gets nerfed

>stukov released
>/hotsg/ swears up and down he's broken because of a FREE mekanism
>46% winrate in diamond+, like maybe 52% in quickmeme

But will he get buffed, or nerfed?
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So, since we just had a DPS and a Healer, next hero will be a Tank or a specialist, right?

What about Junkrat as a specialist? Or Reinhard as a tank?
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>tfw the opposing team's average QM MMR is 575+ points higher
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>>182639558
If hotslogs is accurate, which it seems to be pretty accurate at showing relative balance at least, I don't see how he could get nerfed. Maybe we'll see a meta shift and he becomes OP as fuck. His weakness against dive could be mitigated by zarya who isn't that popular in the meta right now. I doubt that would be enough to make him OP though.
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>>182639696
junkrat with trap & bomb (that launches him and enemies) would be cool

not sure tire ult would be easy to balance
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still no draenei hero
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>>182640497
Right after raynor rework.
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>>182640317
>>182639696
Junk would probably be more of an assassin than specialist. He might work as a Specialist if they just made him all about waveclear and less hero damage.

I'm more interested in what Kel'thuzad will be.
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>>182640710
Well they did Overwatch/Diablo and now Starcraft. So Kael might be the next. But with Legion, I suppose they might want to push for something more topical.
Maybe something BC or Legion related like Maiev?
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>must be universal carrier Stukov
>nope, he has Pox Populi
Oh god pls no
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>friendly azmo body blocks and kills me
>spam potato emote at him
>he gets all self conscious
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>second wave of Blizz rewards emailed
>you get nothing,good day sir
>buddy got 50 chests both times
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>Save teammates from dying several times
>They don't say anything
>Support heals someone with full hp while having low healing done
>They get praised the whole game

At this point if ever get praised for doing nothing should I be insulted?
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>>182641554
Depends if youre black or not
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>>182641802
They don't play games so bringing up the topic is pointless.
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>>182625921
>what heroes do I pick to try and remedy this

to push by yourself? any hero with good waveclear and high damage. sylv, KT, valla, whatever.
for dedicated splitpush? specialist meme heroes like azmodan, zagara, gazlowe.
to defend against enemy push? long range aoe heroes like KT, jaina, maybe even hammer if you know what you are doing.
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>Val in kr hgc
Really makes me think
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>>182642436
Val is a major pain to Vikings since she can go around and kill em with impunity
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>>182641554
>people should thank me for doing what my heroe should be doing
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This week's brawl is truly ass.
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somebody always fucking quits and they are always on my fucking team

fuck this game
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>>182642925
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>>182642925
Any of them that need 3 games to get the chest usually are
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>>182643267
Nice
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>>182633824
This image makes me feel uncomfortable
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>>182642835
No I just find it stupid people thank others for nothing but when it actually might mean something they get nothing. Commend system should be removed because is no reason for it.
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skeleton abathur skin released when?
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>>182644416
You sound insufferable as a person to be around.
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>>182644838
It's now a halloween theme skin, so mid to late October.
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>>182644416
>i dont even know the point of the commend system or how it works
but i agree people are retards
>lets try rehgar
fucking ariel or whatever its called its expensive
>heal 15k
>shitty new heroe 50k
seems no worth trying to heal unless i'm playing the op heroe healer
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I am a bronzie shitter who only started at 2.0. Not good, but improving and learning.

Will I ever be able to climb out of this hell of people who afk for the first 10 minutes, people who first pick nova, or double stealth, or refuse to play anything but ranged dps, but don't know how to stay behind their tank if they're squishy, or choose characters they legitimately do not know how to play in ranked?

I just don't understand these people who take butcher and die within the first 30 seconds of the game, and rack up double digit deaths, or novas who do nothing but run around in stealth with <20k hero dmg all game, and every time I eke out a small string of wins, I get a subsequent series of games where we get utterly shitstomped because people absolutely display a staggering level of ignorance, be it wrt map mechanics, core game mechanics, or their own character/role.

Getting discouraged here. Am I well and truly fucked because I ruined my MMR while learning how to play in QM?
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>>182645114
What the fuck are you talking about? Do you have Tourette's?
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>>182645117
I just don't understand. Win a curse, people immediately go off to boss or mercy. What the fuck? Structures disabled, minions can be one shot, either push together to take a keep or soak all lanes to get an XP lead. I've been playing two months and it's super obvious to me, yet these level 500-800+ people who've been playing two years make these staggeringly stupid calls
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>>182645139
can't find any talent called like that so i'm gonna assume no
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>>182645117
>>182645483
You have to understand that Blizzard groomed their player base to be button clickers.
Hearthstone: click cards, funny cards with funny effects happen
WoW: Log in daily, press a lot of buttons, a lot of shiny effects happen
Diablo 3: Same as WoW
Overwatch: Press buttons and funny things happen
They truly don't care about the game play or becoming any better at it, as long as they can click a button to make effects pop up they're content on top of some tangible reward system of course. Why do they play ranked? Because it's the "only mode that matters".
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how do I lose my QM habits? There it's every man for himself, and I'm so used to that that I don't trust my team to save me so I don't even try any risky plays
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>>182646058
Do QM with a buddy.
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>>182645139
I'll try to translate >>182645114
>I do not understand how the commend system works
>but I would like to express my opinion that people are mentally deficient
>I shall segue into a discussion on healers for no reason
>I tried Rehgar because Auriel was too expensive
>as an impressively incapable halfwit I could only heal 15k in a game with him
>I hear that Stukov can heal over triple that amount
>he must be overpowered
>if I had Stukov I would be able to heal as much
>there is no point playing any healer but Stukov
>I can't find the talent called Tourettes
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>>182644841
Yeah and I am sure you such bowl full of sunshine.
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>>182645958
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzkCmidjeHc
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>>182646298
actually it was half-match when i saw 15k/50k thingy
>i hear
nice projection i dont watch your celebrities to know what can do what
>he must be overpowered
i'm the retard at mobas and you are the faggot who doesn't know
>>there is no point playing any healer but Stukov
i didn't say that but nice projection again
>new heroe = overpowered heroe to get more money from retards
enjoy your game shill
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>>182646737
Okay shit this is above my paygrade I actually can't translate this mb
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>>182646737
I've seen Mexican 10 year olds with better English than you.
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>>182646737
>heroe
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>travelling to hanamura


which blizzard now astonishingly managed to make EVEN WORSE
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>>182629709

A lot of heroes have nothing but shit for skins. The skin team or whoever the fuck, needs to step it up.
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>>182647820
Please for the love of god remove the shitty map from rotation.
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>>182644416
>the system don't matter but I still mad at it.
You sound like a little bitch
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garden of terror, 2 lane maps except braxis, blackhearts bay and dragon shire ruin this game prove me wrong

garden of terror is ruining this game
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>>182648570
That's blizzards audience
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>>182648396
>>182647820
After seeing everyone's positive reaction to our great map. We are now introducing another brand new map Eichenwald with even more payloads/camps that we are sure will make a great impact on the game. Please look forward to it.
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>>182648605
whats your problem with garden of terror?
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>>182648860
Oh forgot to mention once it goes lives you will now get to enjoy a full month of only playing Hanamura and Eichenwald. Don't worry though once the month is up we will be sure to keep these great maps in rotation for years to come.
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>>182648605
You don't like BoE?
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>>182648605
Shire is the best map, suck my dick faggot.
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>>182649282
dragon shire is not actually that bad but
>infernal shrines is not the best map
LMFAOing @ your "opinion"
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>>182649205
>>182648860
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>>182568009
>tfw yesterday on hanamura I actually advised our lastpick to go Nova because it was a perfect enemy team for her to go wild

we won so hard
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>>182617259
what a cute crusader
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is it true that hammer cannot leave tank form if stukes drops his e on her?
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>>182651945
No. She can, however she can't use her z ability
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>>182634806
They should instead give universal carrier an ok instant heal besides the HoT which will heal for a decent amount each time it spreads on someone, so the HoT nerf will be justified. Like half of that heal while being stunned talent
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>3 games for the brawl chest
>when it could take up to 3 rounds per game

ree
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If Tyrande is so bad, explain this
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>>182652798
Some people just feed to get it over with. I had a Morales just medivacing into the enemy team on cooldown.
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>>182653248
Easy bot games
and you even managed to lose one where your bots actually win this when you just stand afk
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>redownloading HotS
>decide to launch the game when it reaches the "playable" mark
>heroes are all missing their textures
>get stuck on a textureless loading screen
>forced to alt-f4
>"Are you sure you want to exit StarCraft II?"
>>>playable
maybe I'll wait a while instead
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>>182653248
>4 games
also how do you lose to bots?
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>>182652798
just pick the most mobile hero available and feed

nobody cares in the fucking brawl
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how can not take growing infection as a lvl 1 talent?
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can anyone tell me what he meant by this?
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>>182654908
calling you a bitch and telling you to fuck off I THINK

i'm rusty with my russian
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>>182654530
Yeah, his other talents just aren't as helpful. Expanding the zone makes it a lot more assured that you'll keep them silenced for another half-second or second and makes it a respectable area denial.

There's some case for Spine Launcher in a poke-heavy comp where Stukov doesn't wanna be alone in the frontline and add a little CC for backing off, but it's a rare thing.
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>>182654908
Something along the lines of "Fucker, will you ever help"
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>>182654908
Bitch deers are you going to halp (grammar mistakes included)
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>get first pick xul on my team
>never rotates, just pushes forever and we lose
>next game get matched against him
>first pick xul again
>this will be easy
>teammate dodges draft
>next game found after one eon
>same xul on my team again
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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Why is Isolation never taken on Dehaka? 3s silence + slow + "blind" basically guarantees a kill a support?
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>>182656617
it's a really slow skillshot with low range and a funky hitbox
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>>182656610
It was after 4 consequent wins too.
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>>182656610
Add him as a friend.

Queue when it says he's in a game.
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I didn't even know about this sweepstakes shit and i've been playing every goddamn day since the event.

Lame.
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>>182656617
pretty hard to hit to be honest
you either take easy and retard-proof regeneration
or you pick isolation and miss half the time because its a slow projectile with some cast time and tiny hitbox
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>>182651945
Silences cancel tank form, it's treated as an unchanneled ability
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>>182653449
You be surprised. I get games with serious try hards that bitch at losses.
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>>182656954
You can just start a whisper and cancel it and his profile shows up in the chat box.
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>>182656617
Difficult/unreliable, as opposed to Adaptation which allows you to just walk into the middle of their team and come out healthier.

>>182656959
Same. Oh, well.
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>team full of autoattackers
>don't know how to right-click
why is this
why play an autoattacker if you're not even gonna attack
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EU didnt get this weeks rewards yet, r-right?
the emails arent out yet, r-right?
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>>182658216
>>182646548
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>>182658216
I don't know. Why do people lock Nova, Tracer or Valeera, fail to make picks/assassinations and whine about their team?

also Raynor buffs/rework when
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5 cute facts about Abathur
- He's a slug
- He's not useless
- I love him!!!!
- Abathur!!!!!!!!!
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>garden back in rotation
>need to gamble on nobody on enemy team playing vikings again or freelose
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>>182643059
you can't see enemy team leavers
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>>182658769
whats a ban, precious?
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>play the brawl
>state that I plan to feed in order to get the chest faster
>reap the salt
>repeat until next friday
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God damn Muradin is NOT a viable hero stop pretending he is a FUCKING alt-pick for main tank
GIANT DWARF IS FUCKING USELESS, NEWS AT 11
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>>182658675
>he's not useless

>>182658921
That thing one person is in charge of.
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>>182658970
He's a regular sized dwarf.
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this brawl fucking stinks.

bring back the stitches one.
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>>182659018
his hitbox disagrees
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>>182658007
That's just for that night though. You don't want to be matched with them again tomorrow night, and so on.
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>>182659024
>not the azmodunk one
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>got a surfboard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKUuA4B7qQw
How often you get legendary hero anyway?
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>>182658394
what rewards?
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>>182658769
>play in absolute shit league (gold)
>everybody having a good time making the usual shitty picks
>enemy last picks vikings
no matter how shitty the vikings are you just cant win against them on this fucking map.
collecting seeds?
they soak all lanes
doing camps? heh already stolen.
getting terror? enemy defends as 4 while soaking all lanes
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>>182659024
while i love pudge wars the more it stays the more stale it will become
but bring back the music
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>>182659257
free loot boxes
got 5 last week, hoped for 50 got nada
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>2.0 was released last year
feel old yet?
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>>182659640
>check email
>got nothing
BLIIIIZ
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You see a player with a meme-ridden name on the enemy team

Are you scared or relieved?
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>>182660508
relieved most of the time because they usually play awful heroes like Nova, Hammer or Gaz.
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>>182659640
>>182660136
I want to get free boxes too, how do I get them?
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>>182660508
Scared because my team will play like dumb shits because they think its a free win giving the meme lord the win. I am even more scared if they are on my team.
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>qm match making
god help me
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Reminder of reddit karma-whoring sell-out rats: https://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/comments/4mh256/theres_a_guy_on_4chan_who_has_accurately_leaked/

https://www.reddit.com/user/SSJ5Gogetenks
>ponyfucker

They are in this thread RIGHT NOW!
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>>182660772

>Hammer
>awful

In draft if you actually have heroes to support her properly Hammer is a fucking monster. The only reason she looks terrible is idiots try to solo lane and push towers nonstop while their idiot teammates don't put on enough pressure to keep enemy heroes from rotating down to gank.
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>>182661108
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztVMib1T4T4
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>>182661339
Aren't those league symbols from SC2?
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>>182656867
>>182657082
>>182658181

What the fuck? Just use it on someone stunned, or after a drag.
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>>182658504

When I whine with Valeera, I'm whining about myself cause she fucking sucks and I shouldn't pick her.
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>>182661917
Overkill. Things that you manage to Q generally shortly after.

>>182662045
Yeah, they were pretty quick to Nova her after all the complaints.
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>tfw 6-1 in HL today

going UP boys
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>>182661917
>>182662148
Things you manage to Q generally die shortly after, rather.

>can't delete a post this old
God damn it.
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>>182662278
Hue
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>stukov rocking that 46% winrate
>still firstpicking this clown

to be fair though I dont quite understand how a hero with so much fucking healing throughput loses games
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my dudes
im new to this blizz jewery
why is shadow auriel recolor costs 2,400 shards
while other 3 colors need only 1,600 shards?
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>>182662647
because that tint is new, they do this with everything new, the emote cloud mounts for example were 2400 and now theyre 1600
>>
>>182662647
Because its new, wait a patch
>>
>tfw you get MVP and 5 updoots as abathur on the shittest abathur map

also Zeratul is a really fuckin good ultimate evolution target
>>
>no one soaks
>wonders why we're 2 talents behind
:thinking:
>>
>>182660772
>>182661180
>Gaz
>Awful

same issue as Hammer. If you have the right draft, Gazlowe is excellent. He works as an excellent jungler, as well as being able to contribute a fuck ton to team fights post 13 with his huge area stuns and even better at 16 with two of them on the field.

Nova though, is complete trash 9999 times out of 10000 matches
>>
>>182662892
zera was the go to pick with aba back in the day
>>
>Want to play Vikings in QM because I've played these fags before
>EVERY GAME has Salami man and fucking Nova

WE JUST WANT TO GO HOME
>>
>>182664258
>salami, ash all of norway
>vikings come from norway
coincidence?????????????????
>>
>>182664258
>genji
>valeera
>zera
>chef ramsey
You forgot some
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>>182663246
Gaz is indeed a great jungler, he also can gank like a Xerath and then finishes or lets his team clean up pretty well.
>>
I love stukovs AA damage, beating the shit out of Tracers and Limings who think they can just go yolo in. I even managed to 1v1 a Leoric, felt so good hitting him with 600 dmg per autoattack
Especially wonderful in teamfights where nobody expect that a support will hurt them so hard with autoattacks
>>
>Objective spawns
>Fight trying to get it
>Half of team tries to push
>They do nothing
>Enemy now has the objective camps and plenty of time to push
>Ask team to help with objective
>LOL I HAVE EXP SO I AM USEFUL
>Proceed to lose while being several levels behind


Soaking is nice but its gets heavily negated if you ignore every objective.
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>>182664647
>posting Shaco
You will never truly understand how many times they nerfed the poor guy
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>>182664647
>being a shacos slut
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>>182664647
>i played shaco during his glory days
nothing comes close bois
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>>182661047
how?!
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>>182665394
>ignite/exhaust + lvl 1 flask glory days
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Is Xul face reference to this?
Can anyone draw Xul with this face?
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>on a pretty decent winning streak
>suddenly get the same shitty nova 5 games in a row
>can't even break 10k damage in 4 of the 5 games
forced 50 isn't real dudes
>>
>level up rank match
>forced to take a healer
>say i suck healing
>team doesn't say anything
this will be fun
>>
ME UNGA
TEAM BUNGA
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>>182664647
>Shaco
Poor fellow has been through a lot. Wonder how long until he gets an update.

>>182666305
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>>182666601
>update
Just like Gangplank hmmm?
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>>182665990
well how about just picking a healer and not sucking
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>>182666885
that would imply being fun to play for me or that i know to play him
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>>182667619
>Samura
>Nashitbo, dying to gengu+liming on cd looks like
>Xul
Looks like it wasn't your fault tbf
>>
>play every day since they announced the giveaway
>don't win shit
>stop playing
>win 5 chests
blizzshits will defend this
>>
>>182667619
>letting them get both Genji and Li-ming
>not picking Uther or Auriel or even Stukov
>>
>>182662578

Because he's brand new so every retard is playing him. I'm going to guess it'll be a situation like lost Vikings almost, where the general win rate was lower then average but for the people that were good with the character had absurdly high win rates. Stukov is a bit more high skill ceiling then other supports but he is both a monster of a healer and the aoe silence is fucking brutal in certain situations.
>>
>>182668549
could try uther again but i dont buy expensive shit just because
>>
I got an overwatch legendary chest from twitch prime, anyone got something for hots and wanna trade?
>>
>>182668671
>trade
Nigga do you think this is steam or something?
>>
>>182668671
I can slap you,thats the limit of what Blizz gave out for HOTS.
>>
>>182668814
I give you a code for OW stuff, you give me a code for HotS stuff.
That kind of trade.
>>
>>182664225

>Release of murky
>Friend goes Abathur
>He UE's me
>This is back when you could use the targets ultimate instantly after you did it
>And before Murky ever got nerfs
>Quadra puffer fish plus double March of the murlocs would instant kill keeps and absolutely chunk the core
>There was nothing the enemy could do except leave 1 or 2 people as dedicated murky watchers to make sure he didn't back door

I think the puffer fish dealt bonus damage to buildings back then instead of having a damage penalty and you had double puffer talent, March of the murlocs didn't have a damage penalty either. You could straight up back door anything without any effort, it was amazing.
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>>182669037
Murky is still good with Abathur though if you use slime builds
>>
>QM matches 1 healer and 4 specialists which my my team against 1 healer and 4 assassins
Fun. Video games are fun.
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>>182669525
I mostly win those when i play on specialist side, you just push their shit in way too early and hard
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>>182669525
>he still thinks specialist means anything
unless it's vikings it's literally an assassin with another name
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>>182669898
>Zagara
>Azmo
>Abathur
>Assassin

wew
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>>182670207
yes?
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>>182670207
Zagara is a fucking monster

>dunk azmo
>not biggest ass on the field
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you know, this would make both image samuro and the lost vikings not a pain in the ass to play.
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>>182670207
>Zagara isn't basically Raynor

mk
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>>182670378
>>
>>182670572

>raynor can be at every place on the map on a moment's notice
>>
>Raynor has less health than Chromer

revert nerfs

buff jimmy pls
>>
I thought dignitas was supposed to be good.
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>>182567790

how do i rehgar?

he seems like prime support and husbando material. should i ever take bloodlust? ancestral seems too good to pass up.
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>>182672005
>should i ever take bloodlust?
Only if you team is comprised of Greymane, Illidan and Valla
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>>182672005
ancestral is dogshit
>>
Why do people like Khaldor? Is accent is unbearable and I say this as a german.
>>
>>182672185
>One of the only people that gave enough of a shit about the hots pro scene to cast/stream tournaments that otherwise weren't being cast
>Why do people like him?
>>
>>182672185
Believe it or not: pretty much all other hots casters are even worse.
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>>182661180
>The only reason she looks terrible is
she fucking pointless and a dozen heroes do it better? I mean look at your defense, she needs heroes to support her, guess what? Anything not Bronze will rip that team up because you are dependent as a group to get your subpar siege specialist working.
>>182663246
once again saying that if positioning is right and weather is good, doesn't make a good hero. Much like Nova the issues are the fact that it never comes together, so many heroes destroy him post lvl 13 and all of them crush him out before lvl 13 so he's this punching bag that needs the right -enemy- team to fight. I get you like these heroes but they are not good and can only work in QM and that's if the stars are right but you have so many better options that are not tied to that so why even defend the point?
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>>182670378
you can click and drag
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>>182672005
bloodlust is best with high burst or dps and it still requires everything to come together with it. If the enemy team has a lot of stun or root that bloodlust just makes you look really cool as you all die.
>>
>stukovs winrate just keeps dropping
So what are they going to buff? Making top off and the armor talent affect everyone would be nice but I doubt it would be enough.
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>>182673983
up his dot, lower his burst
>>
>play brawl
>people are tryharding
>raging
>discussing strategies
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>>182673983
His level 20 talents need to be completely redesigned.
>>
>>182673983
>>182674376
stukov is fine
he's a very powerful character, but he's hard to play
his central mechanic is all about timing which frankly goes over the head for most people, especially when adding the positional requirements for it to spread properly

so of course he has a somewhat low winrate
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today is a good day
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>>182673983
The poor dude is tragically immobile. He needs a little more beef if he wants to make use of his calamitous autoattacks (for a support).
Also his W needs to either move faster or have a larger hitbox because it's fucking unusable.
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>>182674807
his W is fine, l2p
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>>182674721
>lvl 100
Qt
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>>182673983
Everyone is new to Stukov. Therefore, everyone sucks with Stukov. Gee, I wonder why the win rate is dropping.
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>>182674698
He has a 44% winrate in master league. The lowest winrate of all supports. If anyone is going to be able to play him right it's people in master league.
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>>182675000
It's not fine. It's not fine at all. I've been practicing with him all week and even now I can only hit people reliably if they're in my face. The projectile is absurdly slow and its threat reach is pathetic. Getting more than one person is out of the question unless your enemies politely line up.
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>>182675130
masters didn't get to play him longer than anyone else
in fact you could argue masters are more likely to exploit someone not being used to a hero, so of course his winrate is lower there

give it another week or two and if he's still that low we'll talk
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>>182675096
You were one of the people going about about how massively OP he would be and his 60% winrate weren't you?
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>tomb of the spider queen
>ally gul'dan hogs 31 gems, more than enough give us webweavers
>runs into the enemy and gets ganked
>lose
>>
>Specialist
>Assassins who can push harder
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>>182675327
>TEAM?
>>
>>182675302
not that guy but yes, why wouldn't you?
If you can stomp games with a hero you're not used to, that hero is probably OP
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>>182595710
>Crabcakes
>The Tassadar complying guy
You again?
I'm jk
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when will they implement lvl 1 talent for D.va and lvl 4 for Lunara?
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>tfw you notice the enemy Illidan is silenced at the start of the game so you try your best to tilt him as Arthas by existing in his general vicinity with E toggled on and halfway through he stops showing up to teamfights and just AFK-clears lanes for the rest of the game while his base gets its shit kicked in
>>
>>182674224
that's going to happen a lot with turbo matchmaking. in the very least the really bad shit like running around from top to bottom mindlessly on dragonshire is not going to be tolerated by everyone.

>>182673983
removing the shove would help. so many fucking stupid plays.

>>182675295
>things newfags think
that shit thinking has been proven wrong repeatedly. it goes both ways with people playing against him. hardly anything changes from the first week without buffs or nerfs.
>>
>>182620030
release this with a Roadhog skin for Stitches
>>
>>182675543
Before he was released people were saying he would be OP as fuck and have a 60% winrate. Turns out he has a 46% winrate and it's slowly dropping. I can only assume people are now desperate to not be wrong and hope in vain it's just a lack of experience with him.
>>
>>182624023
>Valla tight pussy when she cross her legs
>>
Did the creator of this page dieded?
http://rpboyer15.github.io/sounds-of-the-storm/
>>
>first 3 games of the day
>all losses
>1 game from demotion

Is weekend hots here already? Time to stop queuing NA?
>>
>>182631009
Valla was right, as a support you should always stick to your team, you don't do enough to counter siege to gain any value, whatever happens, you will lose if a team member doesn't go cleaning for you.
If it ends in a loss, you're not to blame, isnce you couldn't do shit against it. Just like in a Xul game I duo soaked lanes, pushed hard and always came in time for the objective, but it was all for nothing because out hammer would do stupid shit like diving 1v3 to try and steal coins. She ended up with 15 deaths.
That's just how it is, as xul I couldn't save her shitty ass from making mistakes, and as a support, you can't save your team from a siege
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>>182676208
>NA
>>
>tfw 6-0 in brawl
>>
>>182675327

Post the scoreboard so anon can conjure up a bullshit story about how it was actually your fault.
>>
>>182643267
got the same but with novas. 1 hour 10 minutes play
>>
>>182672005
2 or more AA assassins = Bloodlust. Otherwise, Ancestral.

Your job as Rehgar is to setup with Earthbind for your melee, and then back out. I'll usually Dog Lunge -> Earthbind -> Back out -> Dogform. Move Earthbind if I think it'll secure a kill.

Gitting Gud on Rehgar requires the right balance of knowing when to be offensive and when to keep your ass buried in your back lines. It takes practice.
>>
>>182643267
SO GOES THE CHAIN OF ASCENSION
>>
>>182659640
You can only win one prize, excluding the blizzcon trip

t. won 50 chests
>>
>>182665559
you just play the fucking game and it automatically adds you to the raffel
>>
I'm almost so fucking upset at hanamura I'm at the verge of creating a twitter bot that tweets "REMOVE HANAMURA" to every blizzdev as often as it can, if it detects a block it creates a new account
>>
>>182675028
where sauce
>>
>>182677515
>their attempt to fix it only made it worse
wew
>>
>>182677795
>Everyone hates it!
>What should we do?
>Make it longer.
>>
>>182678010
>average game is 16m long boss, and everyone hates the map
>probably just the game time spent, surely they'd love to play it for longer!

Why don't they just remove the map?

Seriously

Like

Why

WHY
>>
OW specialist hero when
>>
>>182676016
I didn't make any predictions but I just cant believe a hero that shits healing like stukov could be bad
>>
>>182678406
Junkrat
>>
>>182677795
>map is too snowbally
>delay the carts so laning phase is longer and the team that won the lane gets to push even more
>give cars XP so the team that won the lanes gets even more of an advantage

BLIZZAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARD
>>
>>182678547
>hanamura isn't part of HGC
>bhb isn't part of HGC
>haunted mines isn't part of HGC
>all three of which are considered to be the worst maps in the game
HMMMMMMMMMM
>>
>Be Zeratul trying to kill genji
>Even if I stay on his ass across the map it literally does not fucking matter because he can dodge every combo strike and then deflect for even more invuln
>this is assuming you get him to blow both his jump and his dash before you vorpal blade, he really only needs to use to get away from you once

This is just fucking frustrating to play against, I literally feel like I cannot do anything unless I have Varian+Uther to stun chain him
>>
>>182678419
Unlike other healers his heals are spread across the team. Which is why his healing on the board is always so high. His ability to deal with dive or just someone getting focused is pretty bad.
>>
Arthas and >Varian are the only tanks I have at or above 5
I'm thinking of levelling Johanna, but a friend told me Muradin is good too
Which should I do first?
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>>182678947
>be zeratul
ill pass
>>
>>182678839
oy vey you will play it anyway goy we do not make mistakes
>>
>>182678947
That's called being countered
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>>182679183
>not anub
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>>182679339
I didn't really want to level ban-bait
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>>182679183
between just those 2? Muradin

But learn stitches, ETC, and of course Anub before either i would say.
>>
>Be Auriel
>Enemy Zeratul dedicates his wack ass crystal prison to stopping me from saving my team


AAAAAAHHHH
>>
>>182679183
johanna is shit and boring
>>
>>182679547
isn't that just your opinion?
>>
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>>182624023
is that a bad thing ?
>>
>>182679495
>ETC

haHAA
>>
>>182679334
what the fuck doesn't genji counter. He is literally the highest picked/banned hero, especially at higher level. This isn't even like Medivh where he's dogshit across the all ranks but pros make him look OP, genji needs the barest amount of effort from the player to be unkillable

It's like they took illidan but instead of having to actually be good you just let the character carry you. You literally just dodge shit by fucking existing
>>
>>182679183
Jojo is great because she can't die

Muradin is great because stuns galore

Anub is great because fuck mages
>>
>>182679921
ETC is more useful than Muradin and Johanna. That said, I wouldn't take any of them if Stitches, Arthas, Anub, or Varian is available, and the dude already said he has Arthas and varian at 5
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>>182680082
Muradin has no stun except a weak skillshot on a relatively long cd

Anub is the stun king, Muradin just kinda exists and is worse than ETC
>>
New thread time?
>>
>>182680116
>ETC is more useful than Muradin and Johanna
Factually wrong. He's awful. And Muradin is top tier, Johanna is A+ tier. ETC is just F-
>>
>>182680213
>Muradin has no stun except a weak skillshot on a relatively long cd
>Muradin just kinda exist

This is how you spot bronzies
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>>182622679

>having a problem with thick, firm asses
>>
>>182679730

Only...no even faggots like big asses.

Who the fuck would think it's bad
>>
>>182680343
>taking skullcracker

wew
>>
>>182680348
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrRYDzuwa-Q

Khadgar when
>>
>allied stukov runs into the enemy team and dies three fucking times trying to get off an #epic shove
>lose

TRULY KNEW THE MEANING

OF SACRIFICE
>>
>>182680116
Muradin, sure. Johanna, no.
>>182680217
>And Muradin is top tier
Muradin is fucking junk tier at all levels of play. Have you quit the game or something? Muradin has been garbage for months.
>>
>>182680981
There's a bug where if you try to cast lurking arm outside of its range he'll just walk to where you tried to cast it.
>>
>>182680618
we already have medivh
>>
>>182681179
>page 9
>no new thread
monkaS
>>
>>182569498
>>182569498
>>182569498
>>182567790
someone make new with this
>>
>>182680998
I'd put ETC in the same tier as Johanna, and would pick one over the other only due to the rest of the team. They kind of do the same thing but in different directions; pull vs push. Due to ETC slide though, I would put him ever so slightly above Johanna, even if Jo is quite a bit tankier.
>>
>>182681558
>>182681558
>>182681558
>>182681558
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>>182681534
Was already making it when I saw that, sorry.
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>>182679189
There are more?
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