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hi guys EVE > everything

>>182666331
>CIG does Fallout better than Bethesda.webm

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>Congrats for surviving.
HOWEVER OP YOU DIDN'T ADD THE VERSION NUMBER. PLEASE DELETE THE THREAD AND MAKE A NEW ONE. THE LATEST THREAD SHOULD BE #181 IF I'M CORRECT.

>>182666761
The one before that one was 179, so this one 180 and the correct new one will be 181

>>182666502
Not saying much.

>>182666891
DJELET THIS AND MAKE NEW

>>182667082
delete yourself and make no.

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>>182666502
Knowing CIG you can be sure that even FO4 fully randomized shit loot is more rewarding that what you'll find in those wrecks.

reminder that the cutlass black is the best shipfu and if you haven't bought one yet you're a fuckin idiot and you're gonna be sorry when it gets a $100 price hike.

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>>182666331
>all windmills look in different direction
>each and every one spins with the same speed as others

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>>182667632

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Reminder that 3.0 never ever.

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>>182668238
But anon, FIDELITY >>> useful UI that provides the player with all information he might need!
Have you seen trading UI, for example? Do you think anyone but Chris finds this clusterfuck superior to good old 2D window? Chris doesn't even realize that a LOT of people who backed his game have shit PCs and interacting with such screens when your game is a laggy mess is far from being an enjoyable experience.

>>182668701
To be fair this would actually be perfectly fine if the camera snapped to the display's edges and stopped moving while you're interacting with it.
It's probably an easy fix and they'll do it if enough people complain.

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GAS THE THARGOIDS SPACEWAR NOW

>>182668701
>a LOT of people who backed his game have shit PCs
just buy a new PC then

>>182668919
>>182668701
The way Prey (2017) handled screens is an example of the concept done well.

It still blows my mind, though, howE:D has the worst fucking UI in existence. It's all flash over function and provides you with very little useful information.

>>182668238
>>182668701
>hmm, i wonder if i should go to the forums and present my opinion that the UI for Item 2.0 is obtrusive in places?
>nope, better just bitch about it on 4chan where nobody who is in a position to actually say anything will admit they've been browsing
Then again I'm sure you'd get about ten thousand "ITS WORK IN PROGRESS" replies anyway.

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>>182668701
>Chris doesn't even realize that a LOT of people who backed his game have shit PCs

>ei guise check out this flamin cool JAY-PEGG it was only 15k USD +tip :)
>i-i hope the game will run on my second hand $300 HP laptop....

>With LTI don't ever have to pay for the plan itself, but you still have to pay a percentage of the value of the ship as a premium when you lose your ship and want to get it replaced
solo capital ship fags eat fucking shit lmao

>>182670240
if you don't have any insurance you could lose your ship permanently right?

>>182670575
Yep. The way timed insurance will work is that with, say 6-month insurance, you'll have to pay a fee every 6 months for the insurance plan. They've said you'll be notified before you leave your hangar in a ship that "hey you don't have any insurance dude", but you'll be able to ignore it at your own peril.

>>182670840
i've never paid any insurance in eve and tend to keep it that way.usury is haram inshallah

Are free CCUs being deleted? I want to see how the aurora/mustang reworks go before I choose one or the other.

>>182671064
insurance isn't usury.

>>182671205
you're right but some consider it a form of gambling

>>182671461
go away stupid mudslime

>fifteen hours doing missions
>not one navy rank up mission

There has to be some kind of a trick to finding this shit.

>>182671527
first i'll steal your ingame waifu then i'll rape your irl women

>>182671635
I am my in-game waifu what kind of fag would play as a dude?

>>182671153
please reply

>>182666331
holy shit fdev is going to nerf quince soon this shit is way too lucrative

>happy hour
>these fucking designers
>AU
>it's uuuuuh, like uuuuuh, the distance from the earth to uuuuuuh, the moon?
>no it's the sun
>it's the time it takes light so we're 8 AU away because it takes light 8 minutes to reach us

>>182672208
>1 AU = 1 light-minute
lol that'd be such a retarded unit

>>182667390
>Knowing CIG
do you know something the rest of us don't about how CIG, who has never made a game before this one, prefers to structure their loot scaling, given there's basically no loot in the game thus far, but you can find pretty much anything that is in the game for free if you know where to look?

>This is a question we get all the time, so let's put it to bed. Will mining be in 3.0?
>No.
>No?
>No.

>>182667632
I'd say get the miles eckhart cup team on this pronto, but really they're only pointing in two directions so it makes sense they'd spin at the same rate, especially how slow they are going; they could easily have been stirred up by a short gust and are now see-sawing back and forth due to their uneven weight distribution. also, the one in the back seems to be moving slower than the rest, and also appears to be slightly slanted to the rest. fidelity uncompromised.

>>182672659
What will be in the famous 3.0 then ? A new kind of press button ?

>>182672895
only pretending, right?

>>182672895
cargo
moons
ship interaction
new ships and items

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Eh?

>>182673009
You will need THE Press Button Starter Pack at 15 bucks

>>182673080
What's new ? 5 years and no cargo or ship interaction ?

>>182673108
>The Cyclone
???

>>182673108
OY VEY

Reminder to ignore shitposts.

>>182673108
GIVE US MORE FUND$ GOY

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>>182673108
>The Cyclone ?

I think I'm doing shit with my reputations in Elite, any good guides to explain quickly how it works ?

>>182673108
>$45 to $70
is it a ground vehicle?

>>182674267
It's probably that "tumbril" thing they tried to generate completely artificial hype about. Some ground-based cargo hauler, like a scifi forklift.

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>>182666331
>caterpillar can have two cargo modules, or it can have fifteen of them
is this just a misinformed artist or have they changed their stance on this once again? I would love to be able to overburden my cat and turn it into a ghetto hull-D or do pic related with it, with all the weight/thrust ratio consequences that would imply.

>>182676972
>asymetrical spaceship
Come on guys, come on

>>182676972
They touched on this in Happy Hour. The artist was incorrect. The Caterpillar's max module count is not 15.

>>182676972
>full server room for Herald+ capabilities
>tractor beam, dragonfly bay, 2 turrets for Cutlass+ tier raiding
>hull habitation unit for troop transport
>breakaway command unit
>still at least as nimble as a freelancer
I want this ship so bad now. it would be such a comfy household style ship like a bebop or firefly with none of the fat slow drawbacks that reality would impose on those ships outside a TV show.

>>182677306
super gay. did they go into any detail about it, like saying 'it's locked at 4 units', or were they intentionally vague about it as usual saying 'the artist was wrong' and giving no further clarification as usual? I bet it was the latter. why the fuck is ben so bad at explaining shit.

>>182677653
They didn't say what the maximum module count is, no. Just that it's less than 15.

>>182676972
That thing rides the border of hideous and beautiful.

>>182678596
it looks like an eve ship to my untrained eye

>>182678938
Asymmetry bullshit

>>182676972
I really do like the look of the Cat, if only it was a little smaller.

>>182679878
i want a big black caterpillar

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>>182666437
How is your job as a unpaid human NPC?

>>182681150
>unpaid

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>>182667390
At best you can look at Freelancer (game), the loot wasn't particularly good but then again, the game was a fraction of what it was meant to be, extremely linear and with no dynamics economy. Once you knew what to do you could make money like most game

>>182681425
Man i enjoyed trading jump gate parts to the Tau-31 construction site.

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>>182670240
>>182670840
>>182670575
1st: the insurance time was said to be TIME SPENT INGAME, so 2 month of insurances would be already ridiculously long
2nd: LTI have been nerfed, it don't concern the equipment like engine, it will be funny to see wave of Whales with bare hull trying to make money to buy back their engines and guns
and third there's the timer on the replacement

>>182676972
Also caught that, I do hope they come back to the original concept of completely modular ship
I would love to try transforming the ship into a cheapass capital ship with turret module

>>182682759
LTI queens will cry all day long to CIG about muh early backer exclusives.

>>182681347
of course unpaid, those PLEX addict serve as npc for free, liking your job don't mean it's not a job.

>>182683021
>unpaid
You need to think harder anon

>>182682759
>LTI have been nerfed, it don't concern the equipment like engine, it will be funny to see wave of Whales with bare hull trying to make money to buy back their engines and guns
They literally said that LTI gives you the ship with stock parts. You don't need to buy new engines unless you upgraded your engine with aftermarket parts.

I see 2016 threads talking about Sothis as a good system for long range hauling with nice payout, is it still viable ?

>>182684625
You only do Fed rep Boom Delivery between there and Ceos, and those aren't available all the time.

>>182684854
So it's not really interessing

just how p2w will this game be? this is the first time i even noticed it since i dont normally pay attention to mmos.

>>182685241
Which game fagwad

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>3.0 one year late and with 50% of the features originally announced
>still not gonna get our hands on it for another month
>lap it up like a good cuck and go crazy everytime they show some scripted footage of this and that
What causes this? Is this a coping mechanism or just retardation?

>>182685164
It's a quick way to get Fed rep if you are close to rank. It's pretty far out though. I did use it to get my last rank for my Sexual Assault ship, so it's good for what it is.

>>182685416
I'm gonna give it a try then, I have enough money to re-buy my ship if I lost it anyway

>>182685378
Short term backer who hasn't seen the shit leading up to this. All the criticism is silenced by calling you a goon, so there is not much point in bringing it up outside here.

>>182685314
>not the game with ships costing over 100 USD

>>182685582
It's no risk. Boom delivery is just non cargo delivery runs. You may get interdicted, but just submit and high wake out if you can't beat the computer.

>>182685241
If you're talking about Star Citizen, hardly at all. Everything will be earnable in-game with a reasonable amount of effort. The combat is largely skill-based, as well.

The expensive ships you see in the store are there primarily to give people who want to invest a lot into the game a way to do so. Some of them are more expensive than they should be for the sake of limiting the number of that type of ship in the game. For example, you wouldn't want a thousand capital ships flying around day one on launch.

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ayy lmao

>>182685590
I mean obviously people are going to dismiss you when you start calling then retarded cucks.

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>>182685241
E:D is completely P2W since the addons required for boosting your ships

Star Citizen will technically stop once the game release, whales with LTI ship will have a good start and cheaper & timed replacement but once you got above that, the only P2W feature will be to buy a capped amount of ingame money to avoid grind.

It help that SC is not shaping to be very competitive, no matter what org believe, they'll still be outnumbered by npc whom will comprise 80% of all ships

>>182686420
It's pretty extreme hyperbole on both sides. The NMS fanboys have grieved long enough and a lot of them are on spectrum. Their extreme theorycrafting circlejerk is as annoying as the fucks who still think croberto is running with the money, 5 years later.

>>182686224
topkek
Why they just can't give correct date ? It's like a girl blue balling by teasing you

>>182687287
Because they don't know what it is? Release date drama is why they stopped giving us release dates at all, and just give us the raw dev schedule with internal targets.

>>182687372
Weird since they are the puppy of a bank now

>>182687584
>muh loan
Fuck off, retard.

>>182687584
You're retarded.

>>182687792
>>182688686
I know

>>182688686
*your retard

So, SC is going to use the current rebuy mechanic, but if you can't afford it you have to wait a day for the price to decay, or be a crew on another ship to get paid in the mean time.

How many beggars with no rebuy do you think will stack up?

>Doing the Navy grind
>making a surprising amount of cash.

Ten mil. in. I'll easily be able to buy my ship the moment I get rank.

>>182690473
The best part is, the mechanic won't prevent people from suicide rushing an objective until they're out of money.

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>>182682759
>use the ingame money I saved from getting LTI to also buy equipment insurance
real hard

>>182679553
>>182677274
>bitch about space planes
>also bitch about asymmetry
the fuck do you want? wingless tubes?

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>>182692734
what about nature's perfect shape?

Are there any plans for how many systems SC will ultimately have? 100 is pretty scant.

>>182692956
Everything is tool created. It wouldn't surprise me if CIG made the first 100, then turned the tools over to the community for further expansion

>>182693279
>After all that time and money
"Here take that and that" now build your game!

>>182693373
Don't get it wrong. It wouldn't surprise me if they got 5-10 systems or less out and the "rewarded the community" by releasing the tools so they can crowdsource the completion. It's exactly the type of jewery that CIG is capable of.
>Thanks for the couple g's you retard, now finish the game yourself if you want to play it. Don't forget to pledge for episode 2.

>>182692956
>100 is pretty scant
Fuck off retard.

>>182692956
>100
at this point you should be happy you're getting one

>>182693902
>getting one
um...

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>>182692893
you mean this?

>>182694040
Use a spoiler on lewd shit like that goddamit.

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>>182694065
>projected release is exactly the week of Gamescom

>>182694065
Evocati is still a week away.
RIP thred.

>>182693759
>>182693902
https://asd.gsfc.nasa.gov/blueshift/index.php/2015/07/22/how-many-stars-in-the-milky-way/

>>182694065
>On the plus side, the delayed proposed release date has allowed some of the ship and weapon refactors that were intended for a future release to be added to the 3.0.0.
They are literally dragging their feet.

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>>182694065
>all those UI tasks that got delayed by another week

>>182692956
100 total
50 of them inhabited (human and alien)
a third of them maybe with handcrafted landing zone
Then there will be a lot of procedurally generated stuff

>>182693279
>he think they would give extremely costly tools for free so they can be retro-engineered by anybody
Please, it's stupid even among the 'SC is a scam' crowd of retard.

>>182694357
this game does not span the entire galaxy. it takes place in one tiny sector of a single spiral arm of the milky way local to Earth.

>>182694065
Man did i call it on ui shit and render to texture being the things that would push back the date on 3.0 a few months ago. render to texture because it's going to be fucking finicky and annoying to set up and ui because the guys they have doing UI are total fucking goobers. Like people are way too hard on CIG sometimes but their UI guys are either consistently retarded or consistently given terrible direction.

>>182695360
Not free. You have to rent the Amazon server from them obviously. You will probably have to pay for some developer pack also.

>>182695721
>still haven't built the preacher arms ship gun that was unlocked for all backers pre-100 million

what's with all the newfags today? piss off

>>182694357
Good idea, they should just make a 400-billion star procedural fucking wasteland like E:D or NMS. That'll work real well.

Hey, I'm new to these new fangled space sims. I used to play TIE Fighter when I was really young and now I'm beginning to feel nostalgic. I already have E:D (after I heard you could smuggle slaves for fun) Star Citizen looks cool but I'm not sure if that game is going to be a huge money sink and I don't know if I want to build a super PC on my pitiful budget. Should I bother buying it?

>>182698447
You don't have to spend any money on SC beyond the $45 base game package. Everything is earnable in-game. You also don't need a super jacked rig to play it. Right now, performance is mostly limited due to network issues, but I've played single player with acceptable framerates on a GTX 760. And obviously as development goes on, the game will be optimized further.

Just be aware that it's going to be years until Star Citizen is "finished". Don't buy a game package thinking you're buying a game. You're investing in a project.

>>182698193
if they can justify it by building gameplay mechanics around it, sure why not
but who are we kidding

>>182699069
>people constantly shit on games with huge procedural worlds because it's impossible to develop truly good content for a system like that
>idiots should have just made locations by hand
>Star Citizen does the smart thing and uses procedural generation to supplement hand-made locations
>fucking idiots why don't they just make a good procedural system
Fuck off, retard.

>>182699198
>people constantly shit on games with huge procedural worlds because it's impossible to develop truly good content for a system like that
but this is exactly what I said

Schedule got updated
https://www.diffchecker.com/91Bl6TQY

>>182699432
>Inventory System
>Progress has been affected due to the work on the Search Feature.
>they're having trouble searching through a fucking list
Anon was right, the UI team really is braindead, holy shit.

>>182698009
>piss off

>>182699198
>Fuck off, retard.

Why are SCultist always so jumpy?
You fags are not making any friends with that attitude.

>>182700007
It's 4chan. I don't want to make friends. I want you to fuck off.

>>182700007
It's the drought. We will have been playing basically the same content for just short of 2 years, and CIG's fucking us out of 3.0 now to get more sales at gamescom.

>>182700253
Well, Star Marine added a lot of gameplay. I like it a lot, I just personally have no interest in competitive shooters, so the game mode itself isn't very interesting to me.

>>182700246

Well too bad, because I'm not going anywhere.

;-)

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>>182699753
idgaf as long as they continue to deliver stuff like pic related

>>182700403
>Star Marine added a lot
That shit was busted out of the gate, and they never did get the huge movement lag out of it.

>super special derelict that there's only one of
>http://starcitizen.wikia.com/wiki/Artemis
>A piece of hull plating was found in the Stanton system by Shubin Interstellar.[4] It is believed that the Artemis sustained damage, and that Janus, the ship's AI, woke some of the engineering crew in order to touch down for repairs.[2][5] However, according to a simulation, Janus was unable to put the crew back into cryostasis.[5]
:thinking:

Why do so many people like scam citizen? You really expecet something from them? How many years have passed and all we got is a shitty demo, guess where all those millions of bucks went?

And they are still able to milk the nonexisting cow even further, wow, I'm impressed.

>>182698193
>implying they couldnt just do it for a few hundred more stars

>>182702132
>Why do so many people like scam citizen
Let's get one thing straight. We don't like star citizen. We like immersive as fuck space games. Why do you think edg is even still a thing? It's all we got atm.

If a few years, Hellion or some other game will surpass SC, and we will move onto that. For now, ED is all that is playable and SC is a meme that might be something this fall.

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>>182703110
>this fall

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>>182667082
it's at least 20 counts off in either direction, there were dozens and dozens of threads in a row with copypasted numbers, and people either continuing from there or adding 30 more than necessary to compensate

we're really at 220ish if you count all the threads that died inside 50 posts the past 2 months

ill elite dangerous worth getting into or should i just wait for SC

>>182694216
Yeah it wont be out at gamescom, they will rush and crunch and it wont work out Chris will stutter a bit on stage saying he would love to release it but can't then they will show a video of the final moment where they decided that they can't release it and the community will praise them for being so honest and not rushing things. I'm done. 3.0 maybe christmas

>>182705146
That really depends mate. The full experience is kinda really only appreciate-able in VR, which'll require a hefty investment. Starting off, there'll be a shitload of information and stuff to take in. And at the higher tiers, there'll be a days on days of grinding to get the best shit. There's also not that much content diversity. Wide as ocean, shallow as a puddle.

That said, the combat is actually pretty enjoyable and the ship bridge atmosphere is really well done.

>>182705146
ED is boring unless you really, really like the sound design.

>>182705385
they'll just drop another gameplay demo

it'll be the amazing and we'll all forget about actually playing 3.0 for another couple weeks til they drop more cinematic tool videos on an ATV or show off a flight ready reclaimer with a functioning salvage arm

it's not even worth playing without netcode overhaul so thats fine by me, rather wait for that than pretend i'm excited to play 3.0 at a spasming 5-30 FPS on a server full of people ensuring the persistence gets abused with as many ships as possible left floating around

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>>182666761
>>182667082

>>182676972
https://youtu.be/yGqZE-bTdYg?t=3040
50:40

wouldnt expect it to be modular any time soon

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"Shee-Ahn"
"knocks Koo-ayy"
>this triggers the illiterate

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AAAAAAH! fUCKING SHIT ASS DICKSSSSSSSSSSSSS GIVE ME FUCKIUNG 3.0 YOU STALLING SHIT PISSS FUUUUUUUUCCCCKKKKKKKKKKK

>>182708665
we todd did name

>>182708759
no

>>182701335
it's gotta be the javelin. he's said they've done 4 derelicts, and among them we've seen the starfarer, caterpillar, I think constellation, and the jav.

>>182714998
The Javelin isn't big enough to see from space, even if it would only be 3-4 pixels big.

They mentioned one important thing: that derelict is now part of the ship pipeline. I only mentioned the Artemis because it's a neat bit of lore. Realistically? It's probably a Bengal. It's *the* Squadron 42 ship, so it's probably been getting constant work. I wouldn't be surprised if it's finished with the ship pipeline and they're putting a single wreck in the PU as a fun teaser for S42.

>>182708759
I don't even really give a shit about cargo or missions or whatever.

I just wanna ride spess bikes :^(

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>>182715847
I have a Black Dfly and a Kue and they both are going to fit in my Cutlass and look bad af, but fat fuck Disco gets his greasy kfc fingers on that shit and is all casual about it like he could have done without it. I hate his smug fuck ass and I hope beards go out out of fashion so he looks like a pedo again.

>>182716525
your mom does things between basketball players legs

>>182715523
Yeah, but we just saw the JAV wreck at the end of ATV, and these are moons, not full sized planets, so we could feasibly see the JAV from space.

Would love a Bengal wreck, and I'm not saying it is the Javelin

But it is the Javelin.

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>>182667390
I'm sure we can expect the
>LE EPIC BIG BENNY SO QUIRKY xD
meme

>>182721614
Hi dad

barely 20 fps in promotional vids on their 4x+ 1080ti rigs, lmao
can't wait for the launch disaster

>>182721968
Not that I am disagreeing with the fps point, but if the rigs that the promotional videos are recorded on do indeed have 4 way SLI, it is making no contribution to performance that a single card would not have. SLI is dog shit or even decreases performance for many games now a days, particularity unoptimized ones. If they shelled out for 4 way 1080ti's they it was because the computer was part of a render or work node that is being give work over the network.

>>>/vp/

Been a while since i played Elite what's the current meme way to make money? iirc robigo and sothis were nerfed to shit right?

>>182722779
pokemon confirmed for 3.0?

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>wonder what the "power play" stuff is on the galaxy map
>accidentally open galactic powers thing when trying to open my system map
>look around
>see this cutie

Oh my...
I think I've just joined the Empire.

>>182726468
I dunno about the "meme way" but I've been getting a nice chunk of money doing bounty hunting for the community missions. As far as I can tell in general you just can't go wrong with bounty hunting, and turning those in for the community mission will net you a hefty bonus when the mission is over.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgnJ8GpsBG8

>>182729143
You really just like her stonking massive shields

>>182731508
That just makes me want to pierce her with my beams even more.

I wish the Anaconda was Python sized. I love the look of it, but not the huge fucking size.

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probably old as shit news but I just realized they moved the wing guns on the gladius more towards the center of the ship in ATV

did they change anything else?

>>182731508
If 5k of shielding is wrong, I don't want to be right.

>>182695360
Also when they say procedural generation, it's just the technology they're using to store an entire planetary surface. All of the planets are handcrafted, but in a Sim City terrain editor kind of way.

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>Kastak Arms

>>182673156
Like what your parents think, all these years and still useless

How jewy is The Cyclone going to be?
$45 - $70 is already a kick in the nuts because you can't swap a dragonfly for whatever the 'basic' one is.

>>182733228
I didnt know that, nice one

>>182701335 >>182715523
We will all be disappointed if there isn't more unique stuff to explore
They've shown a Vanduul wreck somewhere, if that's a Kingship, it could be unique

I wonder if procedural generation would allow a DYSON SPHERE
You discover a funny Jump point, on the other side you wonder where the star is
You get in and wake up the Kardashev civilization type 2, ass probing happen to you, you are sent back to your base with no way to prove what happened or find the jump hole again

more funny would be a technology so ridiculously advanced it's TARDIS within a TARDIS where you can fly Endeavor around

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>>182737370
shit makes zero mechanical sense but fuck it, long as it's just another beat weapon in a massive pool of available weapons

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>>182741993
I like that one, reminds me of the Voss from BF2142.

>>182733228
gladius has gotten some form of visual change for just about every patch ever

it's kinda the flagship for SQ42 so they seem to be focusing heavily on making it look and feel like a ship thats visually pleasing enough to do most of the space missions in

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>>182741993
*click* *pwwshhhhhhhhhhh* *click*

can't wait for the railgun and other weapons that seem to have overheating mechanics

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>>182742681
stop giving me feels

>>182746015
>We've got company!
>We've got company!
>Hostile walker spotted!
>We've got company!
>MEEEEDDDDDIIIIICCCCC
>MEEEEDDDDDIIIIICCCCC
>Nice, Thanks!

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>>182746190
>you'll never again drop pod onto an airship with your best friends from high school
>you'll never again fight your way through the cargo bay while Jason flanks through the air ducts
>you'll never again fire rockets down the corridor with your gunfu voss during the final push
>you'll never again jump off the airship as it explodes hot micing the dankest memes of the day

>>182747704
Yes you will
https://bl2142.co

>>182747704
Remember that time where if you cranked your vehicle sensitivity up, when you were in a drop pod you could get some serious lateral movement going and 'surf' across the map (than they patched it).
or in Fall of Berlin if squad beacons were placed right you could pod on top of the buildings.

Good shit, modern games just don't have that 'jankyness' that older titles had which made them fun.

>>182747813
huh, need to check this out.

>>182739132
Unfortunately, I doubt we'll see anything like a dyson swarm in Star Citizen. CIG seems to be taking a very conservative approach to technology.

>>182749697
>CIG seems to be taking a very conservative approach to technology.

>>182750000
SC takes place almost 1000 years from now. We'd have a dyson swam by then. Any other civilizations we meet would, statistically, be either terribly primitive compared to us, or so incredibly advanced that they could swat us like flies.

Star Citizen is not hard scifi, and their technology is extremely conservative and weak.

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Gamestar article is out where they got to playtest 3.0
http://www.gamestar.de/artikel/star-citizen-geburt-eines-universums,3316828.html
it's shit, 5-10 systems for "release" they can't seem to solve big networking issues, internal testing gets about 70 people per instance

>>182750119
you never know maybe chris pulls off a freelancer and reveals that some ancient alien civilization had that tech

>>182750361
For those who don't speak Aryan.
Demo, with some in-depth look at systems (AI, Planets...)

Gamestar visited Foundry 42 Frankfurt to play a preview of Alpha 3.0. In the beginning text, the author asks the question, why F42 my have delayed Squadron 42. More about that later.
The Demo starts at GrimHex. The Player wakes up and uses the new mobi-glass to equip himself with some clothes.
They walk outside to the landing pads where a Gladius waits
They get introduced to the new use-System and item 2.0, where they can control many things more detailed (entering the ship, HUDS...)
With item 2.0 CIG can make every object in the world interactive by giving it properties.
With the new Star Map via the mobi-glass, they now can fly to POIs instead of the old marker on the hud.
Todd Pappy on the answer after the Strechtgoal Levski: "When C.R. makes a stretch goal, that means it has to be in the game in the given time. Often it depends on how important it is for C.R. Let's say, it's very important for him. The NPC Miles Eckhart, too."
Via the Star Map they jump to the edge of the atmosphere of Delamar and are then flying down manual. During the atmospheric entry, flames start appearing around the hull. This depends on your speed and the size of your ship.
A new flight control system shows the way to a landing pad on the highly detailed Levski landing zone, where are now also garages, where you can get your ground vehicles.
It is planned, that the ship will despawn after landing and some time has passed, to make space for other players.
Normally you would now go to a kiosk to let the ship repair and refuel because this would take some time.
In the Demo they have problems with the elevators and the physics grid, so they had to use console commands to go down.
The Details in Levski are really impressive.

>>182750721
As they approach Miles, they noticed a change in his behaviour. Miles notices us, checks us with a short look and looks down again on his mobi-glass. This seemed very natural.
This behaviour got they already to see when they visited Bob Reininger who is in Frankfurt for final implementations of the NPC's for 3.0. In General, all features from other studios come to Frankfurt to get implemented in the 3.0 build.
Gamestar got a deeper look at NPC behaviour and got shown the new features. In comparison to last years Gamescom demo, they made a huge jump in the details of movement. Everything seems very natural and the facial expression is incredible and in combination with the voice over nearly real. They are not done yet with NPC's, all the time are coming new features and bugs get eliminated. They want to make NPCs in 3.0 as perfect as they can.
The quest-givers and subsumption in 3.0 are test objects because, in the future, every NPC will use this technology in Star Citizen and Squadron 42.
Subsumption is more a system than a script.
Between 7 and 14 missions will be in the game. How many it will be, depend on how many problems they have to face until 3.0 But they will add them via updates.
[Spoiler] The mission from Miles is finding a missing person. Last known place is Yela. A signal is coming from a possible crash site. The job is obvious: Fly to the position and find out what happened.
They go back to the landing pad and fly up out of the atmosphere, where they choose the new signal as a destination and start quantum travel.
Everything they do is seamless. There is nowhere a Loading screen.
Now they fly down to a caterpillar, a wreck.
this kind of wrecks will be partially be procedurally generated.
Some of them will be taken over by NPCs, but not in 3.0 yet. Some of them will fight you, some of them are friendly and want to trade.

>>182750797
They leave the Gladius and go on foot explore the caterpillars interior.
In one room they find the corpse of the missing person. (Sadly the interaction system in the demo fails) But now 2 enemies are coming from behind and start to fire at you.
To kill the enemies they use an anti-vehicle weapon. A lot of power, a lot of help.
Pascal Müller (Senior Environment Artist) and Michel Kooper (Lead Environment Artist) show them the Leveleditor (PlanEd) in detail. They confess that it sometimes might be a little boring to edit for such a long time a moon, that consists only out of rocks and dust. But Gamestar admits that they achieve with the tool some really interesting locations. Objects groups are automatically changed and look each time different.
They try to make each moon recognisable by their surface, geographic details and lightning.
Now the people from Gamestar are allowed to play 3.0 by themselves.
Shortly after they used the new nox bike, the game crashed.
After a restart, they try it again and everything works fine and they cruise around. The controls aren't perfect yet, at least for the gamepad.
Driving one round around a moon with a Dragonfly will cost you >3 hours.
The dimensions of a solar system becomes very clear when they looked at SolEd (The solar system Editor). Seeing the proportions to each other is stunning. That became clear when Sascha shows the Stanton system in SolEd and kept scrolling out and out and out. These dimensions alone are fascinating.
Even people who closely follow the development might not imagine how big this universe is.
In 3.0 will be a interesting cross-play-system. 2 Players will get different quests and sometimes the same job, maybe even with different goals and this might bring 2 players to the same location where both of them don't know what the other player want. It might be very interesting to see how the people react.

>>182750867
But this might also be a problem because the reputation system is coming with 3.1
With a console command, they teleport to an outpost, which might be part of a mission in 3.0
Currently everything in them is not useable, but this will change, because item 2.0 makes it possible (don't know if already in 3.0).
Not everything that will be in 3.0 could they test. (trading, insurance and stamina).
Many apps and improvements on systems are missing in the demo.
Question for Todd Parry: Can you fill this huge space with interesting stuff? Todd: "I don't know. But it is my goal. I am as long pessimistic until I see results".
He is very optimistic with planets and outposts, but the next challenge is to make it a living environment.
They work piece by piece and systems are coming together which will help them to make the next step. Most of the time it takes longer than C.R. and the developers want, but they need this time to have a foundation to build on.
Many people think, that C.R. should have forced some parts a bit more and don't be the perfectionist. But with 3.0 the editor thinks, that they may not have done something huge (content wise), but something that will be the base for a game that can be played for years.

>>182750947
Where is Squadron 42?

The displeasure after the cancelled demo for SQ42 was huge, but everyone who knows CIG for a bit longer knows why it wasn't shown. At first, there was the new planet tech. SQ42 is C.R.'s baby. And everything has to be perfect. Gamestar speculates, that C.R. want to have the planet tech also in SQ42 (!speculation!). An additional reason was the work on the AI. Until last year, they worked on Kythera and CryAI, but C.R. didn't want two systems. Brian Chambers: the foundation has to be perfect for such an important part of the game. They had to make half a step backwards and build it right. Both systems got merged together into the subsumption AI. Todd about SQ42: "It's going". Brian: "I would like to show and say so much more". He sees every week all these cinematics and epic space-fights and then he always thinks: "what are procedural planets?! Look at this!". But they can't they anything about that. All the animations and their quality are the same in SQ42 and SC. Brian: "It needs more time, but they think it was the right decision. We make good progress, but the core elements they develop for 3.0 are also needed for SQ42. So the work at the NPCs are necessary for SQ42 to achieve such high-level animations, facial expressions and behaviour. They really want a high quality for the characters. Everything must be better or at the same quality as everything in other comparable games. And I am not happy until we reached this goal. For Star Citizen, I show features when they are not ready and polished, but for SQ42, I don't want to do this. If I show it, it has to be like Activision or Bethesda is unveiling a new game at E3, only with the difference that everything we show is ingame."

>>182750361
That article doesn't say any of that. Stop making shit up.

>>182751034
According to C.R., no work got wasted from last years Vertical Slice of SQ42. The team decided to not show any work in progress last year. He wants to show the finished system without any compromise solution and workarounds. With the current status is C.R. very happy:"When the people see it, they will understand and they will be very happy about it". It's done when it's done. When we can see SQ42 didn't want C.R. us to tell.

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In front of the studio are loud noises to hear. The city is building a Subway in front of the building, which has to be on the surface because the urban planners missed some how that they can't go under a bridge nearby. With organisation problems is Brian Chambers (Development Director) familiar. Brian worked on Effects for Star Trek Voyager, was animation director for Red Dead Redemption and some GTA's are influenced by him. Then he worked at the WWE brand and then joined Crytek as a Senior Producer at Ryse: Son of Rome. It is relatively quiet although it is a plan office. The atmosphere is relaxed and concentrated. In front of 2 or 3 monitors, the developers are writing code, thinking about problems or making skype calls. They get every day many applications, but they are very careful in hiring people because they have to fit. The mentality is very important, you can't just have good knowledge. Star Citizen wouldn't be possible without this outstanding team.

>>182751118
An often asked question to C.R.: "Do you believe, that you can do it?" On the one hand because of the sheer size and on the other hand because of the technological challenge.
Chris and the team are confident, that they can achieve this.
The passion and the know-how is really impressive
Every goal is with current technology achievable, says C.R.
But not every goal or idea will be implemented in the way it is planned because they realise, that it isn't fun or a good way to do it this way. But they have no problem to go back and start new to make a better implementation.
A huge amount of time was invested in building up this team and the foundation (making changes to the engine etc.)
Marco Corbetta and Carsten Wenzel (ex-Crytek members, now for 2 years at CIG) make clear, that there is no CryEngine anymore. If you compare the engines 1:1 you have around 50% of CryEngine code and 50% of new engine code. But if you look at the actually used code by SC, you have around 10% CryEngine code and 90% new engine code.
2 things resulted in a huge refactor: The sheer size of the universe and the interaction possibilities.
To make a hole solar system with huge planets possible, you need to make it possible, that the engine can handle these coordinates. Such precision in such a huge world is only possible with 64Bit precision.
This change took them about a year.
The huge amount of interaction possibilities with NPCs and objects required a re-write of the Job-Managements-System, so that the code is not blocking the main thread. The logic now makes full use of all cores, because they need many refreshes for the many entities they will have in the game.

>>182751218
A weakness of the CryEngine was, that not everything can be an entity. They changed that and now every entity can have different components. A ship has the flight-control-system as a component. Then it has a life-support component in form of different rooms with oxygen. There was no component-system in the CryEngine.
This is called the item 2.0 system. This lets the team develop and test each component independently.
According to Chris, this is a very modern principle in programming that is expandable-friendly, performance-friendly and makes it easier to synchronise the game world over the network.
The first plan was to make SC like in other MMO's with capsuled instances with not many players.
Currently there are 24 players on one server, which will probably not change in 3.0)
The rework of the engine also affects the network. There will be many servers that can communicate with each other that will enable instances with thousands of players.
A physical server contains currently 32 cores that make 8 virtual machines possible for dealing with data. This is because currently, the CryEngine can't do much with more than 4 cores.
And another problem is, that more cores don't mean more players in a linear equation. This will change in the future.
When they get 24 players with 4 cores and the scaling with CPU relatively linear to the player count, they can get far more than 100 players on one server.
And when they have the server network and the seamless transition between them, every player practically plays in the same instance of the world.
A huge step towards this is the Batch-updating. With this technology, one batch is processed from all core together. This makes Synchronising much easier. Especially physic is with this method much better scalable.
Because this technology still needs some time, it is important to continue to rework the CryEngine to allow for much more, like a huge amount of NPCs.
The plan is, to have 90% of the population to be NPCs.

>>182751371
All these demands from the game (huge universe, planets, ships physics, physics grids, effects, etc.) are not easy to satisfy.
The Demo they played run on an i7 5930K, Nvidia GTX 980 and 32GB RAM with about 30 Frames.
They have still problems with elevators, the ragdoll-system and server crashes.
What Hardware will we need? Corbetta and Wenzel: It should run on modern hardware but it will scale very good with much better hardware. They really want to use all the power of your machine.
To be aware of performance issues, they don't want to have the best hardware in their PCs and they have a huge variety of components in the developer PCs to notice problems fast.
Optimisations for the new Ryzen processors are scheduled to be worked on.
They don't want the same reputation like Crysis (running gag: "Can it run Crysis?").
The minimum specs for the PC are these: 4 core CPU, 2GB GPU, 8GB RAM. Recommended is an SSD.
Graphic settings will give you many controls over the performance demand.
Currently there is only one quality setting for the overall quality
There probably won't be more than 20 options for the graphic settings because it would need too much testing.
But there will be enough options to control the performance.
Will there be a downgrade? No, because they don't have to develop for consoles. They can develop for future hardware and people can turn back settings by themselves. And current High-end hardware will be in 2 years only upper middle-class hardware and SC will hopefully be played for many years.
It is also important, that this is a crowdfunding game and they have every few month a new public and working build and get feedback.
C.R. is very happy, that so many people understand that they take the time to do it the right way.
Internal tests are done with up to 70 people.

>>182751463
After that come 2 waves of community testing before the release. (Evocati with around 1000 player and the public test Universe (PTU) with up to 20.000 players.
Only a version that got through all tests comes online for everyone.
The multiplayer part is the biggest challenge for them according to C.R. It is one thing to test everything alone in the editor and testing it over the internet from all over the world with people in different locations in the game world.
It is a challenge to keep track of so many things in the game world and being smart by knowing what to keep track of or to sync over the internet with the clients.
Huge problem was to synchronize physic over the internet because they have different gravitations and gravitation-directions.
They are not done with many things for 3.0, so more delays can be expected.
They have huge ambitions for everything although it is only in an alpha state.
Question after technical highlights: planets and sheer size of the game, but the answer to this question will always change as they try to add new things and improve the game.
Wenzel says: Don't quote me on that, but we try to achieve Crysis-Niveau for our planets and moons.

Duel of the interfaces: DirectX vs. Vulkan

The game makes use of a Low-Level Interface like Direct X 11. Because Direct X 12 is Windows 10 only, they will switch to Vulkan for newer API features. This will be done in time for the commercial release. They maybe even plan to completely drop Direct X 11 support.
Vulkan will make a way better core utilisation possible, which leads to more drawcalls.
CryEngine already plans in the near feature to support Vulkan 5.4, but CIG can't take these updates because the code is too different. But they have a similar plan like Crytek, but they first have to complete the underlying re-write of many components to work on this.
The current problems are more in the game code than on the graphics API.

>>182751463
>Optimisations for the new Ryzen processors are scheduled to be worked on.
Fuck.

>>182751558
Big, bigger, 64 Bit

The biggest challenge was the 64 Bit implementation.
This is something that hasn't the CryEngine neither the Lumberyard engine.
64 Bit makes it possible to work with much bigger numbers (264 = 18.446.744.073.709.551.616 Bit instead of 232 = 4.294.967.296 Bit)
With 32 Bit, it wouldn't be possible to make such huge solar systems.
For many years CPUs support 64 Bit and even Windows XP got an update for 64 Bit, but today's games are mostly running on 32 Bit.
For comparison: The game world of The Witcher 3 can be placed in one crater of a moon.

Everything procedural, or what?

Someday, Star Citizen should contain around 100 star systems with over 300 planets and moons.
Every planet and moon should be able to walk on.
For release C.R. is aiming for 5 to 10 star systems.
To accomplish that, they made the procedural planet tech.
This is just a tool for the developers to get a foundation to work on
The planets don't get procedurally generated as you fly by.
This works by overdrawing the planet with many biomes and layers. Like with a specific type of forest, stone or in the future also with water (maybe lakes and rivers? We already saw ocean).
C.R. calls it "painting with a bigger brush".
But every planet and moon will be revisited from developers to make POIs (Point of interests) and landing zones.

>>182751638
Where with all the data

when travelling through the game world, your PC has to have the correct data ready to get displayed.
Having a whole star system with real planets is a technical challenge. They have to stream the data very efficient.
To solve this problem, CIG developed the "Object Container Streaming".
An object container contains all data necessary for displaying this container. This could be a whole planet, a space station or just a room in a space station.
SC will now identify which object may be needed and loads this data in time. A hierarchy ensures, that the most important data is at first available.
More cores will support a better streaming because the main thread will be relieved.
To support the technique hardware wise, it is recommended to have an SSD and a huge amount of RAM.
Currently are 4-5 special areas on planets and moons.
As soon as Object Container Streaming is implemented it will be much more.
According to C.R., the implementation will be done until the end of 2017.

Messer did nothing wrong.

>rewatch AtV
>We've done 4 [derelict ships] so far, and one of those 4 is massive
Fuck, the special derelict is just a javelin, ain't it? But at the same time, they said they haven't talked about it? Theyve definitely talked about derelict javelins.

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>>182751960
this.

>>182752502
If true this means that the javelin is nearly flight ready.

>>182753434
>>182752502
Surely its the Idris, which was supposedly close to finish end of last year, due to being main focus of SQ42 early game?

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Newfag here, just got ED for PS4 and just started playing. How the hell do I dock without getting fined? I requested and received permissions but every time I get close to the glowing dock area a fine timer counts. Over 1k in fines now and don't know what to do.

>>182754021
Wrong pad. Does it say loitering? Look at the number and try landing on the correct pad.

>>182751581
There are 2 more Ryzen lines coming out this year, 1950x for Threadripper and 1300 for the low end line.
AMD isn't even done with the microcode for the currently released processors, much less the generational optimizations from future releases.
I don't blame CIG for waiting, most of these mobos have new bios every 2 weeks. How the hell would they test it now?

>>182753520
The Bengal is the star of S42, not the Idris.

Was there a delay this week?

>>182755552
he's talking early game.In the first episode you start out in an Idris.

>>182755685
ui delayed by one week again also added og weapons and aurora reworks

>>182755685
UI got delayed, but all the target release dates are the same.

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>>182747813
Fuck both of these games, I'm going back to contest some titans

>>182684854
>>182685416
>>182685760
It was a good advice, thank you

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>>182756712
Fed's where it's at. First time you fly a Dropshit with more armor and shields than all the ships you owned before it combined, Feelsgoodman.
Then there are 2 ships above that which made people dead even better.

>>182757262
Do you have same the kind of tips but for imperial this time ?

>>182757819
Quince. Much slower than Sothis outright for Empire, but you will make a fortune and you can buy your way further in Empire than Fed, in my experience.
I'm not trying to rank Empire, but you should look on the edge of the bubble for a pair of systems more than 10ly apart with nothing in between them, like how Sothis and Ceos are.
If you can find a Empire version of the Boom missions, you would be the first here.

>>182758154
I'll check that, ty

>>182758274
If you go to Quince, take a stripped out Hauler with an A rated drive. You will only need a hangar and vehicle, and you can buy both at Millerport, so don't take the range penalty transporting them there.

Btw, a taxi Hauler is pretty much required for most of the annoying running around until you can afford a high range DBX to replace it. Trust me, you will find it very worth the money to travel in your taxi and pay to have your combat ship transported. The difference in jumps over 500ly can't be overstated.

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>>182758630
>tfw you fly your 12Ly Corvette out to Quince

>>182758630
I'm in a T6 atm but I can switch for a Hauler/DBX, got the credits

>>182758836
Kek. I made a 500ly trip in my FAS once at 15ly range. That was it, I never questioned the money for transport ever again.
In my Hauler, I use a 3B fuel scoop and a 1t fuel tank for an extra 2ly a jump. I only travel fuelable stars and it refills completely before the cooldown. It is so fucking nice crossing the bubble in 10 minutes and doing something else waiting on my ship to get ferried.

>>182759085
If you are trying to make money, Quince still outpaces everything by a lot. You can make career money here and not have to worry about it again. Build this Hauler
https://eddp.co/u/LAyw7ZFg
Make sure you set your route to only show the fuelable stars.
O
B
A
F
G
K
M
Check "Apply to route" and make sure your course is on the right stars. You will figure it out after a few tries, but you will be able to go into scoop range after each jump and refuel completely before the cooldown. Protip: don't engage your FSD while the fuel scoop is engaged. If you heat damage your thrusters, you are fucked.

>>182759751
Well, Quince will be my destination for tonight
>Protip: don't engage your FSD while the fuel scoop is engaged. If you heat damage your thrusters, you are fucked.
I know.. on my trip to Sothis, I inadvertently heat at 209%, glad I did not blowup my thrusters

>>182760180
This is what to do when you are there.
https://youtu.be/EDFol4SELq8

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>>182760180
You sweet summer lad...

>>182760391
That's a lot of informations, thank you again

>>182749697>>182750119
CIG is not conservative and that's precisely why it wouldn't feel out of place. The UEE can terraform many planet and they are foolishly trying to "build a planet".

If they added one to the game a civilization capable of building a Dyson sphere would be able to open/close Jump Point on a whim and erase their existence from lesser civilization.
Tying up any loose end.

And I suggested that precisely because like >>182750390 said, that's the plot of Freelancer

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>>182750721
>>182750797
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Thank you anon,
Whoever make the OP should remember to add this in a pastebin
If someone is already making it please post, it will save a step

>>182677653

It offers everything except firepower lol.

>>182668701
this game isnt intended for shit pc's. optimized yes but intended for teamfortress players, no.

Same number of players per instance for 3.0, but from the article:
>When they get 24 players with 4 cores and the scaling with CPU relatively linear to the player count, they can get far more than 100 players on one server.
And when they have the server network and the seamless transition between them, every player practically plays in the same instance of the world.

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Will armors mean shit in 3.0? OR will they still be just aesthetical?

>>182763270
You aren't supposed to be able to pilot a ship in armor, so presumably yes, but that hasn't been mentioned for a while afaik.

>>182763509

If even not the light is allowed to get in the pilots chair, both light and medium are pretty much obsolete.

>>182763741
The stamina and breathing are supposed to balance that out.
If you want to run and gun, you will still need light armor.

>>182763879

Light has more autonomy in the vacuum (oxygen)?

>>182763741

They should allow light in the cockpit. Some players will play solo. It makes no sense just to leave them in pajamas.

>>182764432
Most ships that aren't short-range fighters have equipment lockers in them

>>182764312
I'm not sure what other distinction they would make for eva other than thrust to mass, maybe? Maybe the heavy armor doesn't thrust as fast or change direction as easy.
>>182764432
I think the bikes will allow armor for sure. There will probably be a armored flight suit eventually, but I think CR said specifically flight suits would be needed. Ships would have to have lockers in that case though.

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will i be able to play if i only have a dual core cpu (i5 4200h) but have 3 gigs of vram surplus?

>>182764686
*for star citizen

>>182764686
No.

>>182764686
>i5 4200h
>2013 notebook
Lol, sorry. Most likely no.

>>182763741
>both light and medium are pretty much obsolete.
Inside tight corridor yes.Heavy armor is going to be shit in open fields though.

>>182765016
Pretty much this. CIG is very focused on each ship and piece of equipment having specific things their good at, while being mediocre or shit at everything else.

A heavy-armor shotgunner will be fucking terrifying in tight corridors, but out in the open world they're going to get picked off from mile away.

Light armor would be the opposite, and medium armor would fall somewhere in between. I expect medium armor to be the adventurer's armor of choice solely for the flexibility.

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>>182763270

They should allow light at least while medium and heavy remain as the agile/slow dedicated ground combat versions.

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>>182765317
Cutlass
Freelancer
Constellation

Which one has a locker?

>>182765432

>*allow light in cockpits

>>182765432
For single-seat fighters, i'd expect to only see flightsuits allowed. Maybe light armor. For larger ships with multi-seat cockpits or proper bridges, I wouldn't be surprised to see medium armor allowed. For land vehicles, they'll probably allow medium armor, but heavy armor would be reasonable too.

>>182765542
All three of those have lockers nigger. You can even open the ones in the constellation in 2.6.3

>>182757819
I've been doing boom data delivery between Qu Guinami and HIP 10791 (I believe, the HIP system just 11or so lys away) made several million just traveling to the three stations in on system, and dropping everything off at the one system in the other, and repeating, go up to squire in no time.

>>182765432

Defense wise, I saw some tests on youtube where medium only took a shot more to the chest compared to light and also allowed one more weapon to be carried if Im not mistaken.

Thats it. Headshot wise they die with the same damage.

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>>182765786
Why wouldn't you just have all three armors in your locker and use the flight suit to fly?

>mfw Hornetfags and Sabrefags in pajamas forever.

>>182766050
I imagine the capacity of lockers will be limited. Besides, who cares if you could? I'm not even sure what youre trying to say.

>>182766181
Cutlass is cheaper than a base model Hornet, carries 2 space bikes, and has a locker.
Hornet has been the ship to have up until 3.0, and the balance will change with 3.0. Hornets will still be strong for combat, but there is quite a bit more things to do, so they are marginalized a bit.

>>182766581
It's not even balance changes. Fighters have been the ships to have for a while because fighting is all there is to do.

Except now there's going to be other things to do that single-seat fighters are shit at because they're single-seat fighters

>>182766050

Single seat pilots dont need land gear. The fuck will they be doing on the ground? They cant loot shit anyway. What they need is some kind of specialized anti G-force suit for combat and racing (like real life ones that squeeze the pilot to maintain the blood in the brain).

Marauders/salvagers however, with their penguins, cutlasses and lancers need something.

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>>182766050
Not pajamas per se.There is the pilot suite that's gonna debut in Squadron 42.No words on what sort of advantages its gonna offer.
>>182766814
pic related

>>182766774
Even the 300 series is relevant now because they have a bed and you can hide and log out with them.

>>182766814
I'm all for dedicated flight suits. The black and gold one is pimp af. I'm just glad that CIG is making it pretty clear that ships aren't being left out.
>>182766984
I'm calling flight suits pajamas from now on. It's my bet that fighters will require them and I would rather that be a thing now so it's established.
Black and gold pajamas ftw.

>>182767195
>I'm just glad that CIG is making it pretty clear that ships aren't being left out.
It's always been the plan to have single-seat fighters have extremely limited range due to the lack of an interior and low fuel capacity. They need to have a parent ship to be effective, or stop to refuel often.

>>182766050

It a shit pajamas with a golden fish bowl on the head. Anyway, the explorer armor (the white one) also has a fish bowl but it seems to have some degree of armor too. It doesnt differ much from light.

>>182768031

Yeah. At 18.26.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmfrEek2eq8

>>182768206

All he gets is camwhore equipment in the shoulders. He has nothing on the gut faggot!

>>182768206

Do they sell fedoras at grim hex?

>Have a bunch of shit I can do
>rank grind for navy ships I don't know if I really want, but would kind of like to have any way
>shopping for shit for the community mission
>bounty hunt
>Even some kind of hot tip mission that I don't even know if I can do, since it talks about going to a planet's Log and Lat co-ords and I don't have Horizons.

I kind of feel like maybe I should look into some community stuff. Give me a direction beyond "Money for next ship"

>>182772656
>Give me a direction beyond "Money for next ship"
There isn't one. Once you have the money and rank for a good ship, you are hundreds of hours from fully engineering it.

You haven't even started.

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>>182772656
Well there's always SIRA

>>182772946
What kind of sick man makes painting your ship, the best way to express any kind of individuality, into a fucking pay option?

I mean some shit like gold sure, but I can't paint my ship any kind of fucking color without spending real money in ED?

>>182759751
I'm in Quince atm but no courrier/boom/scans mission, only fight vs AI, did they change it ?

>>182774212
You need to board flip for a while. The video above didn't have any scan missions at first either.

Stop being ded, fags

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Defend this, shitizens.

Pro-tip: You can't

>>182774352
Well almost one hour of trying, nothing

>>182778135
*defends this*
:3

>>182778135
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>182778135
It's gonna be 4.

>b-but the systems will be huge

>>182779403
Yeah, it's even better, they'll be able to make more detailed systems!

>>182779403
This is literally what all the backers are saying right now, rather than being rightly outraged and demanding that CIG give them what they originally promised.

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*lies to you constantly*

>>182779767
T-thats fine

>>182778135
>no source
nice b8. I wont even download it if they have less than 100, if it's true though.

>>182766984
Except for maybe heavy armor, all armor types should be able to fly a ship

Flight suits should offer little protection from fire but should offer the pilot wearing them far more resistance to gforces and more responsive handling of controls

>>182780910
Why? Implementing flight HUD in combat helmets is retarded from a lore perspective.

>>182780734
From the Gamestar article

>>182781228
But it's convenient from a GAME perspective ;)

I don't care that the developers aren't fulfilling their promises! What they're giving me is more than enough anyway!

>>182781704
The cultists are literally worse than No Man's Sky fanboys at this point. At least they turned on Sean once they found out he was lying to them.

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>when you realize that Operation Pitchfork is now pointless because there won't be any Vanduul systems in the game to attack at the end of the beta

>>182781553
That's just like, your opinion, man.CIG is making sure that there's going to be a good trade off between air and on foot combat to justify team play.

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I find it quite interesting how Star Citizen is getting advertised by the peoples who seem to despise it the most.

>seamless planet are impossible
CIG show they already did it
>they'll never manage to make 100 of them
CIG show they can generate them by the dozen with better quality than other game
>it will never reach the quality they promised
No one is reading this, they are amazed at what was done already

I'm nearly waiting for 3.0 more to see the samefaging hater cling on network than the tech demo itself

>>182783148
So then why are they only aiming for 5-10 at launch? They just felt like breaking their promise?

>>182783906
broofs?
>inb4 unofficial link

>at launch
The launch, as far as the retail launch, is so many years away, it's not even worth talking about.
A beta launch of 5-10 systems makes sense, the retail launch is too far away for even CIG to call.

>>182784020
http://www.gamestar.de/artikel/star-citizen-geburt-eines-universums,3316828.html

>>182783906
>>182784130 meant to quote you on that

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>>182782346
>when you realize the end of beta is 3 years away so they have plenty of time to add vanduul systems

>>182784798
>3

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>>182784140
>http://www.gamestar.de/artikel/star-citizen-geburt-eines-universums,3316828.html

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>>182783906
It only look strange for someone who still don't understand game design process despite being show all the steps better than any other making-of did before.
You need to spend 70% of your time preparing the tools to crank out everything in the 30% that come after

>played all week
>never ran into a single player
>see first person in a long time today
>interdicts me
>no scans, no text
>opens fire immediately

>>182789620
Welcome to open mode.

Weird. There's seems to be quite a few more ED players this weekend. Anyone in the HIP 20277 system up for some bounty hunting in the Empire's biggest shithole?

>>182789912
Yeah, I guess so; guess I'll stick to Solo or Group for now. To be honest, I'm not even really upset, I'm just kind of confused as to why he'd bother. There was literally no benefit in killing me; I didn't have a bounty, I had no cargo and I don't do PowerPlay.

>>182789620
>Never see a single other person for thirty hours
>finally find two other people
>in a line waiting for a fourth guy to get off the medium pad at an outpost almost 500ly away from the bubble.

In a sci-fi game with worlds to explore and space to fly through, I end up in a queue in the ass end of the galaxy.

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>>182784130
I've been telling people for years that there will beta of 5-10 systems around 2018 with a soft launch around 20 systems. Maybe I'm right maybe I'm wrong but I always thought that was being realistic about the situation. There are 3 big existential problems facing Star Citizen.

1) How are they going to get it to run without melting people's computers
2) How the fuck are they going to make the multiplayer work
3) The sheer amount of assets that need to be made is absurd

People underestimate number 3 bigtime. The solution is simple but that doesn't make the mountain any shorter. There's a reason why they are begging for artists to apply. The Sol system alone is in all likelihood at least 10 months of work. If I'm CIG I avoid making the Sol and Hades (if they are going to do Hades properly it's going to require shitload of assets that basically can't be re-purposed or reused elsewhere) systems for as long as possible. Notice I haven't even mentioned the potential clusterfuck of the alien races yet.

When a CIG developer occasionally says they hope to be working on star citizen for the next decade they aren't just blowing feelgood smoke up your ass.

>>182793295
They're super purpose built weapons that do great burst damage. You'll need to engineer the shit out of them to get them to really shine, and then apply special engineer effects like shield overload or heat generation. But as assassination tools or synthesis supplemented weapons, they can tear ass, provided you keep close enough to your enemy to avoid minimize the chances of anti-missile systems blasting your babies out of space.

>>182794275
So what I'm hearing is, since I don't have horizon's they're not worth it.

Can someone post a rip of the Gamestar article? I can read kraut and I don't want to trust some random translation

>>182794578
Newpo

Freelancer MIS + Dragonfly or Hull C?
Hull C should make more money but MIS + DF sounds more fun

Which game from the X series would you guys recommend playing? I see X4 has bad reviews for some reason, and I also see a shit load of X3 variants.
They're all compatible with HOTAS aren't they.

>>182796475
Max with either the dragonfly or the new cyclone thing.

>>182796591
The X3 variants mostly build upon each other. Albion Prelude is the latest one. Only the previous games' campaigns aren't available.
X4 is shitty because it was unfinished (and still is), buggy as fuck, broke a trillion promises, and was originally made for Xbox (which was a pipedream since MS never would have let an Egosoft bugfest release on their console), and most importantly, they made the game from scratch, whereas the previous X games iterated upon each other, so the devs pretty much forgot how to make a game all-new without just ripping off mods. It's amazing how bad it is.

>>182794754
How much does it cost?

>>182797435
>>182796591
Rebirth isn't X4, X4 was announced earlier this year and is in production.

>>182796475

Hull C is for traders.

>>182797729
like 3 Bucks I think

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>>182802240
Sometimes it's so advanced that they don't appear at all.

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>>182750361
>this retard
>5-10 systems

>>182793958
They could release S42 in the meantime and get a shit-ton of mainstream coverage.