Etrian Odyssey General

Ricky sucks

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>>182618413

Friendly reminder that salads are for chopping up and eating

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>>182618536
No bully pls.

>>182618339
Cute racoon.
Where can I find racoons like this in the wild?

>>182618989
You can't

>>182619046
Guess I'll make due with a red panda, close enough.

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The Ninjas are pretty cute...

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STOP and tell me RIGHT NOW about how you found EO, the first EO game you played and your first thoughts.

>>182621343
I already told you.
Ask an original question, dumb bunny poster.

>>182618413
>>182618534
Ricky a best

>>182622465
at sucking dicky

>Teach's tongue will never be in your anus

tell me right now why I should live

>>182622686
You answered it already.

>>182622686
so you can tongue teach's anus instead

>>182621343
i showed the first one to my friend at eb games when when it came out on because the front/back case looked cool

he was obsessed with it but my DS was broken so i missed out on EO until 4

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>don't know much about EOV
>look up trailer
>BRAVE THE YGGDRASIL

jesus christ how many times are we climbing up a down a tree at this point holy fucking shit

>>182623714
you do realize that Etrian Odyssey's actual name is "Labyrinth of the World Tree"?

>>182623714
We wuz monkeys

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What is she winking at?

>>182625291
Your tiny dick anon.

>>182622881
What is she saying?

>>182623714
SEKAIJU NO MEIKYUU

>>182625291
What artbook is this from?

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>>182627228
>What artbook is this from?

>>182627343
It's a book which has art in it

>>182626858
>just a little further down to my stinker
>be careful <3

>>182625291
What the fuck

I'm getting rid of all of my EO merch now

>>182628221
wtf i love teach now

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>>182628221
Teach's slut levels are far too high, she must be replaced with Peach.

>>182628975
cute scrap

>>182628975
She is naked the entire second half of the game?
L-lewd!

>>182628975
I want to fuck Olympia

>>182629395
But... how?

>>182629530
Insert dongle into USB port

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Somebody told me these games are Wizardry with lolis. Is this true?

>>182622881
sniff

>>182629585
It's anime girls with a hint of dungeon crawling instead.

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>>182629585
no flat chests allowed

SomeBODY once told me yggdrasil's gonna roll me

Ravioli ravioli gonna make my explorer a lolioli

>>182629585
Wizardry with lolis, skills tress and overwold enemies that have to be avoided until you are strong enough to take them on (random encounters are still a thing).

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Stupid sexy ronin.

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>>182631104
At least her outfit fits with her theme of being strong and quick but very vulnerable.

Medico a slut

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>>182632261
Yes she is.

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>>182632261
no she isn't you fucking heathen

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This party doesn't look balanced...

>>182633128
Stigmata Hexer, Ecstasy Dark Hunter and Troub buffs are all you need. The rest is just fluff.

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Don't die yet...

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>>182635152
i don't think im gonna make it doc

>>182635152
Not dying, just sleeping.

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>>182635220
yes you will, now hold still for your medicine.

>>182635328
Is she giving me a shot?

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>>182635152
Angie is cute. CUTE

>>182635410
Yes. With a bullet.

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>>182636221

>>182635752
This is wrong. Cease what you are doing at once.

>>182635752
No more blondes.

>>182637831
Just because Medico smears period blood in her hair doesn't mean she is not actually a blonde.

Wulfgar is the best tutorial NPC.
His explanations are always the best.

>>182640569
But can this mutt fight?

>>182640825
Better than Hrothgar but that is admittedly not a very high bar...

>>182641668
Hello, annoying.

>>182641797
rude

What if all the remixes of The End of The Raging Waves have simply been practice for the ultimate remix in Etrian Odyssey 3 Untold? At the very least I'm curious to see how they'll be able to possibly go beyond adding chanting in EOVs version.

>>182642584
The chanting reminded me of strange journey.

>>182642584
EO3U is a meme and will never get made.

>>182621343
Saw a preview of The Dark Spire in Nintendo Power and found a copy at a local gamestop for $20 at the time. Bought it and after finishing it developed a taste for first person dungeon crawlers.

Then saw a preview for Etrian Odyssey somewhere and once they told me that the gimmick of that game was drawing your own map I jumped in and played all the NDS titles. Also got into Strange Journey and Persona 1 PSP.

On End of Raging. are these all the versions?

Raging Waves EO3
Raging Waves EO3 SA
Raging Winds EO4
Raging Winds EO4 SA
Raging Winds EMD
Raging Waves EO5
Raging Waves EO5 FM

>>182644830
If we count the super arrange versions then we also have here the L&S version
https://youtu.be/MTe__08SoDY
And the Ayahuasca version as well
https://youtu.be/yHM_fIkbn34

>>182621343
My favorite article site said that EO was the Dark Souls of RPGs.

>>182621343
Persona Q.

Afterwards I played till the third stratum of EO3 but lost my save cause of emulator fuckup. After that I played till the third stratum of Untold on classic, but restarted on story mode when I really started struggling after fucking up my classic party, eventually managed to finish it, but I took a break for like a year around the fourth stratum.

Now I'm in the postgame of EO4, breaking into this series has been hard cause I'm an SMTfag and keep playing the games wrong by trying to muscle my way through everything, but I'm finally getting the hang of it and really enjoying myself, it's finally starting to "click" I guess.

If it wasn't for the music and the lolis I would've given up a long time ago.

>>182646056
>SMTfag
>trying to muscle my way through everything
>Not trying to abuse buffs/debuffs to make your opponents hit less
>Not abusing elemental weaknesses and restructuring your party each Stratum so that you can always stay ahead of that curve
Is this the power of new Atlus fans?

>>182646332
I mean muscle my way through as in punching FOE's out of my way instead trying to walk around, and only using buffs/debuffs and ignoring ailments/binds.

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>>182635152
>>182635749
I need some service doc

>>182646332
>new
Mole like every SMTfag ever

>>182646626
>who should we take as crossover?
>a blonde slut of course
Remove himukai

>>182646482
But that's the problem. If you started SMT games on the PS2 or ealier they hammered home the idea that the best way to fight is to restrict your opponent and maximize your turn economy (Press Turn had just been introduced). Really maximize your movesets which in those games meant swapping out demons frequently and in EO means resting or grinding up a new class to meet the new challenges.

EO games give you the tools to stop FOEs in their track, as well as just stop any enemies ability to use certain moves by sealing body parts. And for the FOE map skills (or any out of combat skill) 1 point is all you need to reap some strong benefits so you don't need to dump into them if you don't want too.

Plus party synergy allows for ailments to do more than just DOTs or debuff once you get two people going. There are a number of classes who set up for a great 1, 2 Punch for inflicting a Status and getting a free bind. It's the kind of game that wants you to optimize and break it.

Granted this has become almost non-existant in later SMT/Persona/Spinoff games because they remove the systems that allowed for that mentality to work like Status Effects working on bosses being removed. Now SMT games are more fond of bosses that act specific ways and you just need a strategy guide to know their move order and enough health to last through them. Fucking disgrace if you ask me.

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>>182621343
>how you found EO
I bought an R4 flashcart for the DS almost a decade ago and was just cramming whatever decent-looking JRPGs I could find onto it. EO1+2 were just two of them. I also discovered SMT this way since I grabbed Devil Survivor as well.
>the first EO game you played
EO1 of course.
>your first thoughts
"Wow this game is bullshit" I was a total shitter back then and beat the game using exp cheats to overlevel, which i'm still ashamed of to this day.
I actually never finished the original EO2 since I cheated there too but wound up burning myself out because cheats obviously don't make these games fun. EO3 then came out, I decided to play it properly, and was hooked for good ever since then. I did go back and beat EO1 properly a few years later, though 2 remains incomplete and unfortunately probably will since U2 is out now.

>>182647087
I mean, in SMT you can pretty much just apply the same basic strategy to every boss, buff/debuff, damage and sprinkle in a heal when needed, the only thing that really changes is what element you're bringing a demon in to null. It's also much easier and less time consuming to restructure your party than in EO.

In EO, you actually have to think about and adjust your strategy for each boss (and you have a lot more options for strategy too), you also have to queue up all your actions at the turns start, so there's more of a need to plan ahead and turn order has to be taken into account, buffs and debuffs need to be reapplied regularly, and there's both party wide and self buffs with limited buff slots, and TP management has to be considered too.

I think coming off of SMT leaves you with a lot of bad habits, in EO you can't just throw your strongest skills at every random encounter (even in Nocturne, it's easy enough to fuse Mana Refill onto everything) and you need to actually be wary of your supplies, and make slow steady progress through the dungeon rather than storming through it in one go. There's also building your party, like I said before restructuring in SMT is much easier and you're never locked into anything, but in EO you actually have to think about your party formation, and how each class synergizes with each other, because you can fuck up your party and fixing mistakes requires a lot more grinding.

I thought being able to moonwalk through every SMT game with little to no problems on the highest difficulty meant I wasn't a filthy casual, but EO made me realize I was wrong.

>>182648083
Perfectly good bunny ears wasted on ageing sluts...

>>182648732
>It's also much easier and less time consuming to restructure your party than in EO.
For sure that is the case. Demons are far more disposable than characters in EO. Partly owing to the Fusion system and partially because in the original games they weren't even able to level up so you were always encouraged to re-acquire an entire new roster once your current team was out-scaled in the next dungeon. And fuse to keep the useful abilities.

>you also have to queue up all your actions at the turns start
This is certainly true for the Press-Turn era and onward. Games where people go in order makes it easier to plan around turn order and initiative.

>Buffs
Correct me if this changed in the 3DS entries, but from EO 2 and 3 buffs either have unlimited durations if they are party wide, and 4-5 turn durations if they are single target. SMT is either a fixed turn limit before status reverts (Usually 3-4 turns) or they last all round but have a stack limit. I think they tie up in this regard, but TP economy is important because both martials and casters use it as opposed to HP/SP costs in SMT.

>I think coming off of SMT leaves you with a lot of bad habits
I won't disagree with most of thie paragraph except this sentence. I don't think it's bad habits that you learn per-se because a lot of other RPGs can be broken the say you would Nocturne. Generally speaking I would agree that SMT game allow you to snowball a lot easier than what I've experienced in EO games.

>EO made me realize I was wrong.
I experienced the same thing when I started trying Roguelikes after playing Atlus RPGs for years. I don't think I lost skills, but different sub-genres of RPG require different thought patterns. Dungeon Crawlers are no exception and that genre is more willing to punish you with the environment+monsters. And I don't think that SMT games are still easy to moonwalk through but I'm not sure how differently we play.

Remove SMTposters.
SMT was shit, is shit and will be shit.

>>182650702
Remove people demanding to remove things that aren't trees or deer.
And then remove trees and deer.

>>182650516
>teach, medico and fluffymaster
>male landsknecht
Is that about EMD? What is Fluffymaster so scared of? Threads are lying around everywhere and you can always just built a fort and teleport out that way...

>>182650516
>male landshark
>two melee units
This party deserves to die

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>>182651372
What's wrong with Chimaera?
Aside from having too much HP for that point in the game, I didn't have many problems with him.

>>182652670
He killed Wulfgar.

>>182652670

remove boss puzzles

>>182652670
>What's wrong with Chimaera?
Pitfalls are a great counter to flying bats

>>182650201
I'm pretty sure infinite buffs don't exist in any EO game, ever.

>>182655002
In the original Troubadour buffs would never run out.
Which was especially nice for the TP restoring buff - cast it once, turtle up against a weak enemy and let your TP tick up.

Fuck 15 floor boss so hard in untold 2, after 20 tries, i finally did it, had to cheat and look online her attack pattern. Way too much hp, not enough TP and summoning 2 tentacles at once is literally cheating.

EOV is the final game

EO is dead

I'm sorry guys

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>>182657290
emd2

>>182657121
She is the worst boss, the next one is far easier and even the 5th Stratum boss has less bullshit to deal with.
Post-game is when it gets horrible again.

>>182657121
I always would just switch to Picnic and then switch back

>>182657290
Don't be - it has been obvious since forever.

>>182657290
We still have EMD2, EO3U, EO4U, and EO5U.

>>182657290
>final
You mean the end of a long myth?

>>182657703
What does that title mean anyway? You can spoil me it's ok

>>182657791
>he doesn't know

>>182657360
Eh, i almost did that, but i didn't want to cheat that badly, picnic is practically a one hit kill on enemies. I almost retired my characters too but didn't want to arse to it.

If i was playing on classic, i could probably deal with her better with all the customization, the issue is that fafnir tends to be the main source of damage in story and if he goes down, it is pretty much over. I have flavio on support damage too, but he runs out of tp too fast on his strong hits. I changed my chloe to a hexer, so i was just spamming debuffs. Shield smite with brend does a LOT of damage, even at level 1, so maybe i should level that skill. Then Arianna was the heal/buff bitch. I managed to get order link barely on her to help weed out the tentacles, but she summons them too much and they have speed priority on that shitty leg immob.

I had to take the bite and equip my entire party with leg resists(thus less defense) and after a few unlucky runs i finally did it. Fucking cry killing me with the low no ailment odds. Thank god i saved the amritas from the previous quests too, i guess being a hoarder finally paid off.

>>182657343
I don't mind postgame being bullshit desu, you are given a million choices to deal with the bosses. With this one, there is no choices, the only thing you can do is retire the party to specifically hardcounter her(no way i'm doing this just to have to retire again and lose 4 levels).

>>182658948
>changing an actually strong character to hexer while leaving useless Flavio alone

>>182657360
>he plays on ez mode

>>182658948
Ailing Slash is one of the strongest damage skills in the game - War Magus is a great source of damage.
If you want to change anyone to Hexer use Flavio.

>>182659224
I know about chloe and her ailment slashes, but i'm trying to not have a perfected min max guide run.

Flavio is fine as archer, he is fucking great against trash because his drop shot pretty much one shot any backrow and the ailment shots disrupt the frontline while doing good damage, his break skill is literally the best panic button too against a hopeless fight or surprise attacks. After i get more damage on him, i'm going to try doing a evade setup tank as well.

I just didn't find a warmagus fun, felt too redundant with Arianna being there, so i changed her to a class i really wanted.

>>182658221
Wow thanks!

>>182659924
>is fine as archer
>dealing half the tentacle HP of damage for like 10% of his TP is fine
no
>fucking great against trash
As is Arianna with aoe order
>evade setup tank
Are you a neneposter?
>too redundant with Arianna being there
You mean Arianna feels redundant because Chloe does all her work better?

>>182659924
For trash I found Fafnir Saber + Arianna Link Order II surprisingly potent.
Also works wonders against tentacles.

>>182661128
That's the min max strategy people are supposed to do...but i just wanted to have some fun playing blindly and using whatever i fancy.

>>182660398
>Nene

Who? I just think it seems fun to do the evade setup and maybe have the protector spam shield bashes.

I have Arianna with veil and she literally heals everyone for free. Buff+healing at same time seemed better than what Chloe did, even if she had a double heal.

Tbh, like i said, i just didn't like warmagus, and Flavio can one shot the tentacles with multishot, the only real issue is his TP. And if wasn't for the boss summoning 2 tentacles at once when low.

This party has never gave me trouble on expert with exception of Scylla despite my non optimized party. Been breezing through everything. Grimoires does help a ton where characters lack.

>>182663707
Well, ok then.
Have fun, anon.

Talking about veil, why the fuck a level 10 veil is healing my protector for 10 hp instead of 50 whatever like everyone else?

>>182666408
It... shouldn't.
Are there any other passive healing effects and it was a 100 instead?

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How do you guys settle on names for your party members?
Everytime I start EOU, I spend more time thinking about names then I do actually playing.

>>182667378
Name them after whatever anime I'm watching at the time. I don't get into the whole fantasy name with lots of apostrophes generator bullshit

>>182667649
I was considering names based off a game I like, but that's 4/5 guys. What kinda guy plays EO with a party of dudes?

>>182668123
Watch Love Live, there are no males

Plenty of names to choose from. I've never had a male explorer

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>>182668250
But I don't really watch anime.

>>182667378
I either name them after my friends or make them default

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>fighting Fallen One
>have him at about a quarter health
>Landshark somehow didn't get hit by 3 Supernovas in a row
>barely surviving off of Auto-revives + Revives and Nectars

Just fucking die you cunt.

>>182669683
Have fun missing your formaldehyde
Also i sure love how this cunt can go directly to last stage if you take 40-50+% damage in a single cycle, fuck this boss, saviour is easier, unpreventable full party binds must be outlawed

>>182671239
I just instakilled him with a Nightseeker.

Get fukkin rekt, fuck this boss indeed.

fuck deer and eat trees

>>182667378
I use Latin
o nombres en español

>>182635752
Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated

>>182668123
>protector is a dude
>war magus is a dude
>medic is a dude
>troubadour is a dude

>only my dark hunter is a chick

I can't help it anon. There are only so many portraits that look good to me.

>>182629585
It has some, usually enough to make a party of nothing but them, but you're going to be disappointed if you expect all the class options to be lolis.

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>>182676163

>>182677369
What's happening here?

How do you lads settle on your party? Do you go for O P T I M A L setups or just classes you like? Do you pick entirely based on character appearance?

>>182677603
The sweet blood, oh, it sings to her

>>182677369
teach farted

>>182677610
I look what skills look the most interesting and if that hasn't narrowed it down enough I look for synergies.

>>182667378
Decide on portraits and then use name lists to pick out names before the game comes out. That way, I don't have to waste time at the character creation screen. Once we have a release date for V, I'm going to work on portrait color schemes, too. The only fear with V is that I can do all that, and it won't matter, because there won't be any decent voices that'll match the portraits I want.

>>182677369
Zombie Dancer will reap your soul.

>>182621343
>how you found EO
le millenom girl
>the first EO game you played
EO III because I didn't have a 3ds at the time
>your first thoughts.
It was my first dungeon crawler, but somehow managed to beat it without looking at guides. My party was fucking terrible I still don't know how I completed the game. Still, it was an amazing experience

>>182682282
I want to wrap my tongue around Fang's tongue.

How good/bad is the synergy between Troubadour+Ronin in EOU? I'm debating just using a plain old Medic instead because of how the Ronin stance takes up a buff slot.

>>182682756
Yes Ronin stance takes a buff slot - and Troubadour can prolong buffs!
That means you only need to activate the stance once and it will run for the rest of the fight.
That is a great synergy, the best they ever had.

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>>182682756
peerless + taboo rondo = ded enemies

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Best blonde couple right here.

>>182683056
>>182682917
Great news, thanks lads.

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Start posting now.

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>>182685210

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I did it guys, finally I'm free

thanks for the anons who gave me tips and are always helpful

>>182686489
Coming generations will sing of the great adventure of ddegf and some other, less important people.

>>182686712
He was originally named "FINALLY" but I had to retire him for the strat to work and was too tired to name him anything

Ddgef is truly the best etrian

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>>182686489
I like that party composition. Very unique.
Also, ddegf is best explorer.

>>182686891
why does edie face make everything better?

>>182687426
She is the best so infusing something with parts of her is bound to make it better.

Off with their heads!

>>182624587
They could pull a Strange Journey and try something drastically new

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Why is Fang best blonde?

>>182691680
I wouldn't be opposed to some sort of soft reboot.

>same mechanics/general idea, but maybe without the map making and the yggdrasil setting
I just don't want EO to die...even if it's for the cost of the comfy cartography

>>182692023
I rather see EO dying with dignity than a see a shit similar to Fire Emblem's Persona.

After EO3U of course.

>>182692520
What do you even mean? It would just be the same thing, except without the tree, maybe, and sacrificing the whole cartography thing because no more dual screens. The other mechanics and concept would be the same.

>>182692023
They already made 7th dragon and it didn't work

>>182692690
EO without dual screen it just pointless

>>182699609
Best medic

>>182628975
EOu3 fucking when

>>182700515
3v3ntually

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who going with /goodtaste/ fencer?

>>182700954
>Fencer
>good taste
Pick one.

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>>182702421

Reminder that Nene is shit.

So who's watching Made in Abyss, the Etrian Odyssey of anime?

>>182706539
I like it, the OP is great and the setting is interesting, it really feels like EO, it even has FOEs and shit. But why do I have this feeling of inevitable suffering?

Nene is bene.

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what do you call this meme?

>>182708928
dumb

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>>182692023
>without the map making
Why would you take out one of the biggest assets of the game? Have the 3DS titles watered down the map making so much that people would rather it not be there?

Give me a new setting for sure. But I'd rather draw my maps of some derelict mega-structure floating through space then have some Nifty program do it for me.

Actually that's the kind of idea I would pitch to Atlus. Take the idea of a precursor race leaving behind a planet-sized death star of sorts with scavengers being asked to explore it in order to haul out ancient technology and discern if anything of greater value is hidden inside. I might actually try and write up some classes for that now.

>>182708928
That show was funny
>tfw no pink gunner to name her Momoka

>>182709151
>Why would you take out one of the biggest assets of the game?

I think he means cause of the Switch. I can't imagine trying to draw a map on a touchscreen with my fingers, but if the Switch does phase out the 3DS then the series is in a bind.

>>182709636
What if Switch Odyssey isn't grid based? That way you wouldn't need to draw straight lines, it's fine to fudge things a bit in a 3d environment.

>>182709636
>I think he means cause of the Switch.
I really hope so. Honestly though I would not mind if Etrian Odyssey passed on after Nintendo transitions away from the 3DS because I'd rather have the series end on whatever high note it's got going for it, then dragging itself on for another two console Generations lacking the things that made the original spark so appealing.

Better for a good series to end, then get horde out like Fire Emblem did.

>>182667378
I go to those baby naming sites and pick out a name from a language that seems fitting for the portrait

>>182667378
EOU/EOII/EOU2 I went with northern/eastern europe mostly
EOIII anything bordering the Mediterranean sea felt appropriate
EOIV felt best for English leaning names
not sure what Imma do with EOV

>>182709636
> I can't imagine trying to draw a map on a touchscreen with my fingers
Wait hold up, does the Switch not have a stylus?

>>182712135
Nope, and its touch screen is like a phone; you can only use it with your fingers.

>>182712342
Well that's retarded, fuckin' Nintendo taking two steps back here.
I would say that you could just press Select to bring the map up over whatever else you might be doing but now I dunno if that could work.

>>182712118
EOV is lating based for some reason.

>>182712118
>>182712676
actually looking at portraits again, I assume I'll be going with more Celtic/Slavic names

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Fang a best.

>>182667378
http://www.behindthename.com/random/

>>182710586
a new era of map elitism begins

>>182715512
The tutorial would still require pixel-perfect cartography, naturally.

>>182715817
>people quitting at the tutorial and calling EOVI the Dark Souls of Cartography

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>>182716648
Isn't that what already happens?

>>182717337
>>182718179
post lewd fluff

>>182718179
Her eyes scare me.

>>182621343
Millenium Girl was on sale for $10 and I was bored.
I thought it was fun.
Now I can't go back to it because I'm too sentimental to delete my save but I was so retarded with mapping that I'd have to either have the 6th Stratum maps clash with the other maps or continue doing things like using the locked door icon as the normal door icon.
The end.

>>182708928
Slutness.

>>182621343
Played every single rpg known in the DS until i bumped into this

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>>182719931
>every single rpg known in the DS

Even Dragon Song?

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Fluffmaster is best girl, end of discussion.

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Why is she so giant?

>>182723571
She's a big girl.

>>182723672
Etrian Odyssey 4 Untold

>>182726310
me on 2nd from the left

>>182726310
Me second from the right.

>>182726310
Me at the far right.

Okay two years. It's been two years since I last asked so please. Please just post the translated version of Anko no Erohon 3. I know one of you has it. Please. I need it.

>>182728296
I'm sorry anon.

>>182728296
Can you not wank if it's in a different language? What's stopping you?

>>182728296
<2 years
<he still doesn't know moonrunes

>>182728934
>>182729148
The kanji are too hard. It's just easier in my native.

Please

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Maybe related?

Is there an Anko no Erohon 1 and 2?

>>182730492
Looks like only 1 and 3 are listed, but this is the only doujinshi database I know.

https://www.doujinshi.org/search/simple/?T=objects&sn=%E3%81%82%E3%82%93%E3%81%93%E3%81%AE%E3%81%88%E3%82%8D%E3%81%BB%E3%82%93

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i'm in tatters

shattered

pile it up pile it up pile up high on the platter

>>182731564
source?

>>182732069
https://twitter.com/nistick3/status/860364471230906368

If EO VI featured the same art but ZERO lolis would you still buy it?

>>182732483
whoa baby

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>>182732558
I'd buy two my dude three if it was exclusively loli

Why isn't this general called /eog/? Fuck EVE.

>>182733523
who is eog?

>>182734689
Happy lolis are a bliss.

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>>182736421

>>182737409
pew?

>>182737312
You wont be smirking so much in 9 months.
And this is only the beginning.

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>>182737504
pew pew

>>182737312
I accept responsibility.

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>>182621343
>Found
Some shitty "recommended game" list in 2008 while searching for games for my R4
>first game
EO1
>first thoughts.
This fucking sucks, next game

I love them now and own all of them but EO2, I had horrible tastes back in 2008.

>>182740150
Looks like she took some ancient medicine with special effects.

>>182636221
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bB9lhfJeu2U
it's been 9 years

Alright, thought it's better to post this here then on /v/.
I ripped the music from EO1-3 ROMs a couple of years ago.
These are not mp3 or fuckhuge FLAC but the original data. Kinda like a midi and a soundfont.
Nice thing is that you can loop these endlessly like in the games and they are pretty small, only 16MB for all 3 OSTs.
You will need fb2k and a plugin, which I included, to play these files. Please add this to the OP, saves a lot of space and can be properly looped.
https://anonfile.com/Yal2Wab6b8/EO1-3_music_rip.zip

>>182748753
Do you think monsters learn to fear such an adorable sight?

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Fuck it spent a long night on and off brainstorming an alternate Etrian Odyssey setting. I took a lot of visual cues from Blame! since the mega-city in that series is ideal for any sort of dungeon crawling. Map making must remain I won't see an EO game without it. As for the basic fluff of the setting

It's the far distant future a number of space faring races have established a Galactic Federation. FTL travel is possible at this stage. A discovery is made on a relatively minor moon of an uninhabited planet in the form of a derelict structure of unknown origin. The discovery was purely by chance as a surveying team was merely looking for mineral deposits and the newly discovered facility didn't register to any form of detection systems. Even while standing inside of it exterior probes could simply not "see" it. This led to a large scale investigation by the GF to figure out the origins of that place. Eventually they were able to find what appeared to be remnants of a language written much in the way as a rosetta stone with multiple languages present underneath what was presumed to be the one of written language of the creators of this place. After a long period of sifting through older dialects and dead languages they were able to translate the text and find out that they were both Coordinates and warnings.

The coordinates pointed towards a corner of the galaxy thought to be empty; existing well beyond the frontier of inhabited space. The warnings were that those who should find what this precursor race has left behind should be ready to bear the responsibility of their sins. But also that their legacy is contained within.

Intrigued by these words a expedition was organized and upon arriving at the coordinates listed they were amazed to find a structure that was beyond imagination. A giant spherical structure, the exterior of which was made of the same material as the derelict facility and equally invisible to all forms of detection.

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>Tfw overly autismo about character creation in any game.
>Having to make 5 characters in EOU.
>Having to distribute their skill points.
Send help.
How should I build my Protector, I know front guard is good and the elemental walls are great later on, but where should I focus my early game points?
Is Peerless Stance worth the point investment on the Ronin? I have a troubadour, so I could extend it if that makes a difference.
Should my Hexer also be going for binds even though I already have a whip Dork Hunter? I'm assuming yes, because it'll speed things up.

Kill me lads.

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>>182750605
Initially thought to be impenetrable they were able to find multiple ports that would open up automatically when a ship approached. The structure proved to be impenetrable to weaponry and mining tools otherwise. Upon entering they found that the structure was a massive sprawling complex that extended inward. Rooms and corridors honeycombed together and arranged on a floor by floor basis.

On the first few levels they were surprised to see that there was a livable atmosphere contained within suitable for the carbon based members of the GF races. This discovery unfortunately coincided with the discovery of the fact that this mega-structure was not devoid of life. One of the initial teams was assaulted by a group of creatures of unknown origin. While small in size there were a number of ferocious organisms contained within, and even signs of larger predators deeper within. Autopsies of the creatures killed by security teams revealed hints of heavy genetic modification but little else as they bore no similarity to known species across multiple planets.

There is a bizarre mix of metal and unknown materials, with small patches of overgrowth of strange pulsing vegetation almost like fungus, and skittering insect-like creatures that serve as the bottom of the food chain for the ecosystem. And along this is the still active technologies of this facility that push the limits of what was thought possible.

After assessing the situation, the GF put out a call for those willing to aid in the exploration of this mega-structure as a sufficient amount of manpower was deemed necessary. Since there is no way to map the planet from the outside with scanning, map logs must be done manually and then updated to a database for future use. As the megastructure dwarfs even some planets and the number of ports that exist are still being discovered, multiple bases of operations were established The game starts on one of the newer bases established.

>>182751054
Front Guard can be rushed to 10 in EOU since it is dirt cheap TP wise.
Build the Walls afterwards but getting them to negate elemental damage is enough - making them cheaper is barely worth it since Protector has a lot of TP once the Walls start getting relevent.
Built towards Bravery's Gift and defensive passives afterwards.

Peerless Stance is late-game.
You can pick whichever Stance you want but most people go with Upper to get as much damage as possible out of their Ronin.
If you pick upper you probably want Flame Grater for some area and elemental damage. Horse Slash is more reliable and TP efficient but Swallow Strike deals more damage especially if you are leg binding enemies anyways. You can pick either or just go for both.
Then you can go for Peerless and passives to get more damage out of your skills.

The best thing Hexer can do is Evil Eye + Muting Word. Fear is pretty damn accurate in EOU and getting completely free turns is amazing.
Once that is done you can either pick Madness Curse or max out the binds first.

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>>182752134
Thanks for the reply, my friendo.

>>182751437
As for classes, that is the one I have been stuck on the longest since I am trying to find a good range of skillsets and a theme to put them under. I also want to tinker with an idea from SMT and give each character a secondary weapon and making guns far more splashable. So now you have a primary, secondary, and three defense slots. Primary slot firearms will have multiple classes (Light, medium, heavy) secondary slot firearms are always pistols.

I have not played it but I would like to take the idea of Races from V and put it into this game. While more alien races will be present than the playable ones, the playable races will constitute only those that are adapted to the atmosphere contained within the megastructure so I don't have to handwave why ruptured space suits don't result in instant death.

Psychokinesis is a thing and is the explanation for some of the powers shown.

Classes I have already come up with a clear concept for are:

>Bounty Hunter
Essentially the Dark Hunters of this game, they are lawmakers that are all about physical damage and ability suppression specializing in bindings. May also have the ability to follow up on allied attacks or enter a stance to attack enemies that have targeted the back line as a form of Overwatch mode. Will possibly give them the options for a melee and gun skill tree. Secondary weapon in order to use bindings will be tether based weapons.

>Psions
Individuals that have dedicated themselves to the mental arts. Capable of Pyrokinesis, Cryokinesis, and Electrokinesis. They are you're mages primarily structured around elemental damage. May give them a psy-amp as a primary weapon option.

>Riot Officer
Specializing in using the shield slot (forcefields in this game) as a means to tank more damage than other classes. Also unlock skills related towards setting up defense matrixes to block incoming damage. Probably will make them able to use med/heavy firearms and possibly beam sabres.

>>182745565
Thank you. Getting these later when I get home.

>>182753630
>Healer (needs a better name)
Members of some sort of medical corps. Primary healers of the game. Might give some options for light weapons specializations. Able to buff teammates with stim packs and adrenal boosts. Also able to apply debuffs to enemies but focused on sleep and either paralysis or blind.

>Netrunner
Technology based class that specializes in creating and manipulating nanomachine created drones in the midst of battle. Also able to create hard light constructs of other party members to act as decoys, but these decoys cannot attack and have a limited durability rating as opposed to HP/TP.

>Zealot (needs a better name)
Members of a religious order that utilize Psychokinesis to strengthen their bodies and shroud their bodies in a psychic barrier. Can also put these barriers on allies which can increase attack, defense, speed, etc. They also utilize PK to suppress enemy actions and inflict a empathic pain transferal status (basically curse) so that enemies can feel the pain they cause others. A mix of monk and whatever dedicated support class is out there. Specializes in keeping the buffs flowing.

>>182753630
I have one problem with your setting: Words. Lots and lots of words.

One thing I love about EO is after some opening naration all you get is "town here, labyrinth there, let's go" and are able to play.

With your setting there would be a massive info dump at the beginning and if you are working for a sci-fi federation you have to follow a ton of quidelines and be kept on a short leash - kind of like the beginning of Strange Journey.

The good thing about EOs world is no centralized government - if the Radha decides to endanger adventurers by letting them roam the labyrinth than that's that since no one is above them.

Your setting probably needs a ton of text and roadblocks that hinder the gameplay in favor of properly conveying the setting.
If you work for the government that is.

My suggestion: You are not working for the government.
You said that thing was huge and had many ports? Well, unless your GF is a military one (in which case races are likely not equal) but instead a mercentile union researching a massive structure that offers no immediate profit would not get the funding it needs.
So there can easily be a port under the control of outlaws that explore the structure in order to find riches.

Opening naration is just that this new den of outlaws has been established on a formerly unknown structure and then adventurers flock there in hopes of riches (or just to stay undetected for a while).
Then the guild creation can start and the rest of your setting can get scattered in some bar patron dialogue.

This way you don't have to deal with a ton of regulations and your theming can be sci-fi outlaws.
Bounty Hunters clearly fall in this category and depending on how tightly psychokineses is restricted Psions can easily become criminals just by not wanting to give up all their freedom.
Medic is of course a Quack, willing to hand out performance enhancing drugs freely.
The name for the tank can be along the lines of Henchman, Bouncer or Muscle.

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>>182757514
>I have one problem with your setting: Words. Lots and lots of words.
I front loaded all the words since it's just an idea conception. An opening crawl would be about what you described.
>"A Ruin was found which pointed to a hither unknown Megastructure. People set up shop and want it explored"
and the rest would be picked up from incidental dialogue. I don't plan to change that aspect of how EO narratives work.

>no centralized government
This is true across the whole series, but you wind up working for whatever local government is in place. They just happen to not be picky as to who shows up and the game lets you fluff out your own characters anyways. So if not a GF there still is local law enforcement. I also don't want to restrict the gameplay wise with the idea of a GF outside of the first stratum newbie test and regulating missions.

>sci-fi outlaws
Thought of this as well and this would still make for an interesting theme to go with. Gives some good Firefly, Outlaw Star, Lexx vibes. I was going for more DS9 where the good guys need to accept help from all sides of the morality line to keep things going.

Really I just wanted to maintain the sort of regal feel I get whenever I start up a game. You may have freedom of imagination but the majority of the character portraits present idealistic and heroic presentations of the class. Maybe that would be a good change after all. Let you play as the guys who aren't expected to want to save the colony when things escalate.

>psychokineses
It's pretty much a common thing but still requires extensive training. Not anything that you wouldn't expect criminals to use.

>Quack
I like this name a lot more, I can see some good portraits to go with it

>Henchman, Bouncer or Muscle
Not sure on these though they are still close to the concept of protector. Still thinking up classes as well. Trying not to rip off old ones too badly although the netrunner is an unsubtle Yggdroid expy.

>>182745565
Aren't the sequences and their library ripped already in Zophar?

>>182761456
just checked, only the 3rd one, it seems

>>182759773
>Trying not to rip off old ones too badly although the netrunner is an unsubtle Yggdroid expy.
You could improve upon ideas that fell flat.
Like a Farmer with high strength and luck, middling defences at best and bad speed.
They get Take, Chop, Mine to increase gathering chances (which is still handled like in the 3DS games so having these skills is not necessary to gather but still helps out) but they can also use them in battle - Chop can inflict arm bind, Take is a multi-strike skill can critically hit (you are brandishing a laser-sickle) and Mine can inflict instant death.
Some more supportish skills like being able to use items better and you have a class that is not dead weight but also not so good everyone would want to run it.

Name is a bit of a problem - with some nice ingame justification Forty-Niner might be possible.

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So far I've got
>Zealot (might need new name) [Offense/Support]
>Quack [Healing/Support]
>Bounty Hunter [Offense]
>Psion [Offense]
>Riot Officer (Needs better name) [Defense/Tank]
>Netrunner (Might change to Technician) [Offense/Support]

Will try more neutral names for classes and go for a more lawless, frontier colony feel.


>>182763346
Was just working on that actually. To cover the resource farming niche although I don't know yet how I will treat gathering spots just yet.

>Scavenger or 49er. [Support]
Same as the name, can increase loot drop rates better than most, has access to all types of gathering spots. Low combat skills but makes up for it with strong evasion buffs and paralysis status ailment.

Will take your suggestions for re-purposing gathering skills because that actually sounds awesome. Maybe give the class a proper steal option with the Take command to remove drops from enemies regardless of whether you flee or not afterwards.
But again, need to figure out how I want to treat gathering since we're out of the forest for the most part. Taking scrap parts from broken machinery and harvesting what strange things grow are a given. Mining might be ditched alltogether in favor of a different component idea.

Unlockable Class
>Mutant or Lab Rat [Tank/Defense]
Results of precursor technology within the megastructure. Creatures that either have hulking physiques or illogical anatomies. Able to take hits and gain passive health regen. May also grow further mutations in the form of offensive tentacles or armored exteriors. Give it an ability to draw aggro in place of allies.

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page 10 survive!

>>182766485
Thank you, Ricky.

>>182763346
>You could improve upon ideas that fell flat.
Actually this is a good topic of discussion. What classes or class ideas do people think fell short of expectations, and for those who have played the 3DS remakes of I and II how did they improve class balance?

>>182768346
Farmer and Yggdroid are the two big ones of course - one doesn't bring enough to the table when it comes to actually fighting, the other is a bundle of mechanics that synergize badly at best and work against each other at worst.

Bushi also fell short, although that might be because HP/TP costs of Blood Surge where implemented the wrong way around.
Since higher levels of the skill are so bad the main class loses much of its advantage over a sub class.
But I do like the idea of a class that instead of slowly depleating it TP pool and fighting off starvation burns through their resources fast but can also "reload" quickly. (The quick refreshing also fell kind of flat with Bushi.)

Ronin only truely works when they remove (EOII) or lessen (EOU) their main gimmick.
To this day I don't understand why their stances need to fall off that quickly - or at all.
The buffs are tiny and they can do nothing without them. Their damage isn't even taht much higher than other options (in EO2U even lower than so many other classes) that they would be unbalanced. They die to a stiff breeze often even with Front Guard up.

EOII Beast was also useless because of a bug but even beyond that their fix on the defensive side in EO2U was great - a shame they completely ruined all their offensive tools.
Why even implement skills that bad?

>>182771986
Who's this harlot?

>>182773042
looks like hoplite

>>182774430
I want her in my bed

>>182773042
Don't talk about Hoplite-chan like that!

>>182773042
Some artists waifu.
I wish he never stopped drawing her - there is something beautiful in his desperation.

>>182751437
I like this a lot, but I think this setting sacrifices a little bit of the mystery that's there is EO's illogical labyrinth and Blame's impossible city. That feeling when you go down and find yourself under the sea, or when there's a planet sized room. What'd enhance the sense of insanity is if you had a Tardis like structure - i.e. the inside is obviously bigger than the outside.

>>182768346
I feel like Medic has mostly gone wrong. EOI's Immunise broke the balance and Caduceus was a little too good too - you ended up barely using them as Medics since their denial was so strong. Come EOII they'd lost both and had their front row healer thing transferred to WM, but they no longer had any novelty, and the weapon speed mods made them kinda shitty. Phoenix was an interesting Panic button for lategame, but the next 2 games dropped it. In III the passives were another good addition, but the martial arts skills were all just traps and part of a wider design failure in dividing the status effects across all the classes, LUC stats irrespective.

Come IV they'd kept some passives and found Star Drop which was neat. Unfortunately their actual healing ability scaled so much faster than HP growth that everyone just used Arcanists instead. EOU recapped the original but with the two broken skills nerfed so hard nobody used them - just, a generic medic. EOU2's Force Break gave you the panic megaheal back, and they got some neat synergy with the Beast too, and a form of debuff hit. So, the best the series has managed the class yet.

>>182764136
Best thing in EO is how classes switch shit up on traditional RPGs. Alchemists are boring. Battle Medics, linking Fighters, ailment punishers, variations on buffers in EO3+4 Summoners etc are awesome. If you want to design stuff yourself, make your own twists on classes, don't just rename the Etrian ones.

>>182780886
Oh my harem is here.

>>182780886
good taste in classes and portraits

>>182780886
That is a lot of lockdown.
I want to run this party.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mpPKbiVsa8

>>182784730
My money could not exit my wallet fast enough

>>182784473
twintails hoplite a shit

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>>182785810
Wrong.

>>182785810
>amine gril
>shit
pssh, i bet u're not even a weeb

>>182785810
kys faggot

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How do you fight something like this?

Dicky

Full housewife parties when?

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>>182793419
Soon. Maybe. possibly.

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Posting improved housewife

>if I draw her enough she will become real

>>182797038
Firebomb

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This is Housewife general now.

>>182799757
i wanna stick my phallic member into this phalanx

/bpg/ blonde posting general

>>182621343
>looking on eshop for demos to play
>see etrian odyssey 4 and download it
>do all the content possible in the demo and end up buying the game right after
it's been 2 years since i finished it, and i've played and gotten near the end of Untold 1 and 2 but quit.

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>>182801638
Good.

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Bandanashark time?

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>>182802403
It should always be time.

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>>182779590
Well if there is one thing I would do differently is lean more into a mechanic the Hoplite (Seriously the best class in the franchise imo) and some enemies had in EO3. Being able to change the row of a character after an action. I would later see this implemented in The Darkest Dungeon and it would really make positions more important, especially if I'm going to also make ranged weapons splashed across the whole class so you would never be hurting for consistent damage. To my knowledge this is not a mechanic EO ever revisited which is a shame and would definitely want to bring this back and apply it to more classes. I would also increase the number enemies that can do this as well

As for the classes that were being worked out I would probably only keep the Bounty Hunter and Mutant as is. I would Imagine the BH to be a class that is still centered around single target damage, taking the initiative as soon as possible, and focusing on Binds and status effects like Paralysis. The overwatch idea is to allow them to also punish enemies that attack the back line instead of mitigating damage like a protector It might also just become a generic passive that is better suited for front line classes since it would only trigger if enemies attack "past" them into the back row

The Mutant follows with the idea that with sufficiently advanced technology comes engineered lifeforms. I want to make a slightly versatile class that lacks any elemental damage, but makes up for it with strong resistances and options for melee builds. Tentacles may lead to binds, armored chitin may give stronger buffs, or maybe mutating for speed and nullification. Hell maybe even growing a second brain and dipping into the non-elemental psionic abilities. Even minor healing in the form of injecting their unique psyiology into party members. Pic very related

I still also would want to give a second crack at the Yggdroid concept of summoning drones through the netrunner

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>>182803163
Bandanashark time.

>>182804430
>2 fangs
MASAKA!