Dead game edition.
Previous failed heist: >>182481748
>Extremely Autistic Guide on the Mechanics of PAYDAY 2:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=267214370
>Workshop Manual
http://www.overkillsoftware.com/workshopmanual/
>Upcoming Payday 2 Tournaments:
http://www.overkillsoftware.com/payday2-tournament/
>Skill/Weapon Stat Calculator:
http://pd2weapons.com/
>Breakpoint calculator
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ucnX2Hm4QlkyKiQkSJzdC_PS9Pc8dBJt3cxYyI3Pkgk/
>Old Skilltree Guide:
http://i.imgur.com/nUXjB3J.png
>Perk Deck Guide (slightly out of date):
http://i.imgur.com/hFYr1Io.jpg
>Stat Ranking and Breakpoints (extremely fucking out of date we only keep this here for console plebs):
http://i.imgur.com/TY14uav.png
>Weapon/Armor/Damage/Pickup Spreadsheets (not up to date):
http://pastebin.com/dSyuTzdt
>Weapon Skin Checklist (totally up to date):
http://pastebin.com/jivyLi3A
>Big Oil Engine Calculators:
http://payday2skills.ru/bigoil.html
http://albertkung.com/bigoil/
>PAYDAY Wiki:
http://payday.wikia.com/wiki/PAYDAY_2
>Latest Updates Here:
http://steamcommunity.com/app/218620
>Steam Group full of shitters:
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/itfeelslikesomethingsintheair
>Mods and Lua:
https://pastebin.com/tygApnyc
>Weapon Skin Previews
http://pd2stash.com/
>Daily Dose
http://fuldans.se/?v=bawawkvbhb
>>182536579
This game is dead
>>182536695
lmao ok
Does maniac even work?
I guess this is it guys, seven failed threads in a row. We have finally lost steam and the game is dead even if official Starbreeze support is up to Oct. 2018.
It's been a good run. 4 years is a pretty long time. Lots of shilling, crashes, memes, shitposting, and most importantly, fun. Even though we managed to outlast some of our sister generals like /kfg/, /hmg/, /vmg/, etc. all good things must come to an end, including this general. Since we can't keep this general alive anymore, this is going to be the last time I make this thread. I'll drop by if there happens to be another /pdg/ made but I'm out of medic bags and my throat's burned out from all the GTFUs.
Maybe we'll see each other again when PD3 comes out. Maybe it won't suck. Haha, who am I kidding, it's going to suck because the Swedes think they're doing fine. I vowed to never give Starbreeze another dollar anyway. Maybe I'll try out PD3 on a free weekend. Doubt it.
Pic related, it's time for me to cash out my Crime Spree cuz I'm all out of Continental Fucks. It's been an honour heisting with you gentlemen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5zGkqAWsWE
Keep those helmets flying! ;)
>>182537389
Define "work". It reduces damage like it says it does.
>>182483682
>>182514319
What's good, heisters? New side jobs are out!
Today's Daily Side Jobs are:
- Short Fuse (short_fuse)
- Target Practice: Submachingun (smg_100_kills)
And today's Safehouse Daily is:
- Total Shogun (daily_heirloom)
Brought to you by Clover.
Keep those helmets flying! ;)
>>182537479
Hey, you, get on your feet!
Since thread is dying, post all you got.
>>182540702
>>182541056
>>182536579
the end is nigh
What we need to waifubait so the fanart will keep this general alive.
>>182542431
Fucking kek, this one got me.
ded
>>182545931
I haven't played much with the AI crew setup, is there any good setups with the bonuses or does it not matter in which order you put them on AI heisters?
k I'm out.
Rest in my folder are /pdg/-tan shit but I'm falling asleep.
Good night.
>never ever
>>182550896
This one is so depressing to me. Do dragon's breath kill count towards it? Someone was saying kills don't count with fire.
>>182550896
Reminder that retarded did this
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/robbedacop
>>182551489
Most fire types don't count. Definitely not Dragan's Breath.
I know incendiary nades count.
I know molotovs don't.
Don't know about flamethrowers.
>>182552630
That sucks. Any tips then? I've got 800+ hours at the moment and it's not looking good. The hydra mutator doesn't seem to work either.
>>182552892
>The hydra mutator doesn't seem to work either.
It was supposed to work with the mutators (because it was a mutator trophy) but Steam forums were crying about how mutators were "unfair" and "cheating" and OVK devs disabled them so quickly.
Solutions are to cheat or just give up.
Because how many cops do you think you can kill per heist? 200? 300 if you try? How long is that? Maybe 30 mins? So about 600 cops/hr. 600,000 cops is 1,000 hours of endless killfarming and that'll only count if you don't crash. Fire doesn't count, sentries don't count, jokers/bots don't count. You'll have to do an average of 2-3 hours of straight killfarming a day for a year to get that number.
>>182553238
There were people who complained about a ''shortcut'' to an astronomically high killcount achievement?
What do I have to draw so this thread doesn't die
>>182553550
Steam forums are the pinnacle of stupidity.
When others bitched about them disabling mutators, OVK devs backpedaled so hard saying shit like "It wasn't actually a mutator trophy" and "We don't mind having impossible achievements".
The few fags who have Robbedacop either cheated it by checking the box or using mods, or disabled updates by going in offline mode and farming for like 24 hours straight on Hydra or something. In hindsight, I wish I did that but I was too lazy. Now it's going to burn my autism for years.
>>182553865
Why would they not mind having impossible achievements? Also the game is so prone to crashing that farming for a longer bit of time is unsecure. Why don't they just bring back the mutator or something? ASHLEY DO SOMETHING
>>182553553
You have to drawcodes.
>>182537854
I don't feel it on mayhem.
>>182554726
Did Ashley leave or something?
>>182555078
Ashley's still here but codes are pretty much gone because the ultimate bundle removed the need for DLC codes that aren't party hats and shit.
Anyone having problems since the last update? Might be something on my side but suddenly payday keeps draining a lot more of my cpu and stutters.
HEY YOU GET ON YOUR FEET
New to modding and shit, are HUD mods seen as cheating or not ?
Convince me not to buy the dlc bullshit please.
I have played every mission, I don't give a flying shit about the characters, I give even less of a shit about completionism or achievements, I only care about one or two masks max from the dlcs, but my weapon boner keeps screaming.
>>182559863
They're not, they're pretty good actually.
>>182559921
dlc unlocker
>>182560146
If I buy shit with the unlocker then stop using it can I still equip the shit I bought?
Don't need to pay cleaner costs if there's nothing to clean.
>>182562209
>tfw no viscera cleanup detail payday edition
>>182562073
No. They stay in your inventory, locked.
Does anyone else have to tie female hostages if there's a male hostage?
When I was a kid I always made my mother take off her socks before I did when I went to take a bath because I refused to perform a submissive action in front of a woman unless she did the same as well
I also liked seeing women get arrested in front of men on tv because it looked like they were humilated desu senpai
>>182563942
You seem like the kinda person who likes hands.
AAAAA I NEED A MEME BAG
>knock knock
>who's there?
>police assault in 30 seconds
>lines won't be this good again
>>182568815
>he doesn't remember the exact line
i can't believe memes saved this general
post masks
>>182541783
can't believe people actually saved that
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzblQUMBVo0
>mfw this is actually happening
>>182572486
it's a straight up inferior version of pocohud
>>182572486
HOXHUD INITIALISED
Someone redo this with 6 skulls
>>182573192
Will do tomorrow.
haven't played this in so long
does anyone use the ICTV anymore?
is the locomotive still stupidly good?
>>182573420
Both are good, playable on everything, just not sure about OD. Loco is fun but I like it with dodge more for the sanic sprint.
>>182573192
why does it have 1 skull in the first place
>>182573192
>>182573839
>>182574048
How is this even possible.
Same name, different sizes. Even the skulls have different alignment.
>>182574860
Nevermind, I'm retarded.
>page 9
Page 9 again.
Seems like overkill started their holidays at the wrong time.
What's everyone's favorite heist to run and why?
>>182579550
your mom
she deepthroats
>>182579550
UKRAINIAN JOB
C4
Yakuza + Berserker
>see a "how to make X weapon good" video on youtube,
>it always end up with silencer skills slapped on it
Does the devs hate the compensators this much or just really think the bigger is better ?
If thrashley the slut post a code in ten minutes or less I post my uncutdick
post it anyway
>>182585492
>>182585492
What should I do with my hand to prove it aint fake
Mod to pull out anything other than the saw first?
why is this so dead anyways
>>182586896
ded gaem
>>182586896
because you're here
nobody likes you, lots of people are here when you fuck off
>>182586896
cause no content for 3 months and there won't be for next 2 weeks
post your dick already
>>182588189
>>182588268
no you didn't
>>182576529
>Bain has one or two straight up wrong lines for meth cooking pre lab rats update
>And it was client side
>>182542067
>>182593326
cute
>>182593326
Nice
>>182537296
The game was in the 3rd place, go down to 8th place in few time it just strengthens my comment.
>>182593326
Thanks Ashley
>>182590593
What will that cloaker do to her?
>>182594170
i am not ashley dude
>>182593326
You didn't cut it?
>give away 5 million free copies
>game still ded
Has there ever been more definitive proof that a game is shit than this?
>>182593562
>>182593591
stop you will make me blush
>>182595114
the picture yes from 5 megs to 3.5
>>182593326
it's alrightslut
>>182598861
nigga i aint no slut i was just bored and keeping the thread alive
>>182593326
why are you sitting in an empty bathtub dood
>>182599081
posting your dick for 40 people to see is pretty slutty
>>182599081
post more real fanart and less memes
>>182600968
>>182600968
>>182599558
Might be but atleast it aint using a trip like trashley
>>182600968
>>182550896
diamond on hard. nearest i cna tell it has probably the most cop spawn of any heist+difficulty combination
how is your mask collection going, pdg?
>>182600968
Goodnight, sweet Ulf.
>>182603225
did u buy it for $200?
>>182585640
have a dark skinned hand and let the general go on autopilot for 700 posts
>>182603578
I got it from agiveaway
>>182600968
>>182602912
whatever helps you sleep, slut
>>182600968
Criminal Intent
>>182606929
dude music lmao
I wonder if overkill will ever make a heist where you steal a gigantic medic bag. I wouldn't put it past them at this point.
>>182603225
Great, thanks!
>>182611105
where do I get one
>>182610983
Maybe as a haloween thing, it'd fit in with lab rats
>"giant" heisters holed up in a closet
>have to cause a rube goldbergian chain reaction to damage one of them
>after they deploy the giant medic bag you have to attach straps on it for 6 mini helicopters to fly it away
>>182611834
>Objectives completed
>AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA in the distance
>Guys! The medic bag! Go get it!
Hope they fix hostage pathing for clients before this.
BUMPO
Is there any akimbo that isn't fucking garbage.
If you are 1 fucking meter away from the target then you shoot one bullet to the center, and one bullet over the center (because recoil lol).
>>182616601
Either use submachine guns akimbo for fun or use pistols with that single fire mod
>>182617579
Any recommendations for high concealment shit?
Or anything that goes up to 25?
>>182616601
There isn't anything in this game that isn't garbage because it's a garbage game.
I am an active member of the /pdg/ steam group chat
Mod to change green and tan's appearance to their gensec counterpart when ?
Is there a mod that adds a contour to Gage packages?
Is there a mod that spoonfeeds me answers?
>mfw never have to play Election day stealth ever again
>>182621487
It's called meth helper, and it's super usefull
Meth batch complete
>>182623164
i put sode
>waiting for drills
>page 9
Do suppressed barrels count towards silencer skills, or do they have to be barrel extensions?
ded gam
>>182626201
Supressed barrels that decrease thread and remove noise counts a silencers for the skills, such is the case with clarion and Lions roar
>>182626201
They count.
>>182626292
post more hoxton
>>182627558
bonus Woof
Reminder that western pack once had good weapons
>>182628925
>Strictly Worse Bronco
>Love it or hate it sniper rifle
>The pretty okay bow
>231 concealment knife
Yeah it was okay
get the fuck up
>>182629582
The peacemaker should have the special ability to instantly kill anything that gets hit with it 6 times.
>>182554994
mechanically it is functioning as intended but the damage dealt by cops on mayhem is so much higher than the reduction granted by maniac that the deck is effectively uselessthe problem is the "as intended" part
thx Jules
Why don't they just remove every difficulty except overkill, then use crime spree modifiers for difficulty?
>>182536579
Donacdum~
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJUMfkSun-o
>>182630383
I got the game for free, what's wrong with difficulties above overkill? I noticed a drastic jump between overkill and mayhem in my ability to not suck.
>>182630383
Because normal's too hard as it is
>>182630532
cop's deal more damage, are more accurate, and more act more aggressive on Mayhem compared to Overkill
on Mayhem, cop's HP is increased by 200% but your headshot damage is reduced by 50%. effectively, this gives cop's at least 400% increased health compared to Overkill
as an added bonus, the devs fucked up the spawn mechanics for Mayhem causing extra cop's to spawn compared to Death Wish which is intended to be harder than Mayhem by increasing cop's' damage and accuracy even more (HP and headshots are same between Mayhem and Death Wish)
>>182630962
>the devs fucked up the spawn mechanics for Mayhem causing extra cop's to spawn compared to Death Wish
So why haven't the devs fixed this yet?
>>182632256
>So why haven't the devs fixed this yet?
For the same reason they haven't fixed the weapon balance.
>>182632256
it's difficult to prove that Mayhem has higher spawn rate than Death Wish. player analysis of the parameters for Mayhem compared to Death Wish indicate that Mayhem gets 2-3 more "weak" enemies when Death Wish would get 1 "strong" enemy. the extra enemies that Mayhem could get don't overflow the max number of spawns so there can be many spawngroups with extra enemies. both the code to trace these numbers in datatables and the function that interprets them to create spawngroups are very convoluted. the actual execution is random
probably at this point, the dev in charge of fixing it (or at least in charge of publicly talking about it) has spent so much time saying he's not wrong that it's too much of an ego hit to reverse his decision anyway.
my guess is that the code to manage spawns was written by someone who's left the company but they keep using it because it's too complicated to re-engineer from scratch.
>>182633124
he just buffed the guns he liked when mayhem came out. remember 4000 damage crossbows? yeh? The guy who does the balance loves crossbows.
Thermal scopes in payday 2 when ?
I feel like Mayhem is easier than Death Wish because I go down more in Death Wish. But I don't think Mayhem is a good step between Overkill and Death Wish desu. There's just too many viable builds in Overkill that just get destroyed going to Mayhem.
>>182586896
It's kind of weird, before the free download the general wasn't getting archived every 10 minutes. After it went ''free'' and the intial burst of posters, it's completely dead.
>>182634630
Really? I have the opposite feeling, like there's a decent gap between DW and mayhem, DW being easier that is. However, I agree that it's a bad step from OVK to mayhem, you just feel overwhelmed.
>>182552427
>you must have 100% achievement completion
Then why don't they call this group "Payday 2: 100%"
>>182552427
>>182638194
You're shitting me, right? I didn't even bother watching his ''evidence''. Fucking A mate.
>>182638302
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZP0U6OSicck
GET THE FUCK UP!
>yfw Bodhiposting will never be a thing
>>182639936
Who ?
>HOXHUD IS BACK
>>182640724
Is there any advantage of using it instead of other huds? Looks really barebones to me.
>>182640851
Cheats.
Any tips for the Go Bank stealth + no civ kills achievement? The civs there spawn infinitely, right?
>>182641170
>Go Bank stealth
>>182641476
Yes. Also, done it first try. I remember it being way harder before. Oh well.
>>182641170
There is no possibility doing in solo and very hard without friends, basically many bridles, ECMs, organization and patience.
Someone inside in the vault opening the reforced boxes, other one responding the phone and the others two idiots threatening the civilians. When you party fulfill with the necessary objectives of the mission just escape.
>>182642182
What are you even going on about? It's effortless with stockholm syndrome.
>>182642182
I just did it solo, why do you think it's not possible?
>>182642182
Or simply have one guy on the boxes, one on the phone, and two retards running around sawing the air.
>>182642703
Two retards sawing the air is redundant, you need to have them to kill cops/guards that arrive while the box guy saws in the air (with a saw)
/PDG/ BIG LOBBY WHEN
>>182642936
I doubt the box guy has enough coverage with his loud saw
>you need to have them to kill cops/guards
Secondaries ya cunt.
>>182536695
Kind of is, so many incompetent shitter hosts kicking makes attempting to join pointless.
Most recently got kicked for "hacking" because 3 incompetent retards couldn't survive the difficulty they picked.
>>182643178
>join a random pub
>3 faggots with cs:go gamble/sloppy second advertising
>host goes in options
>...
>he's been dragging it for minutes
>suddenly insult me in my native language
>finally get kicked
I wish i knew how to use the blacklist thing in the main menu.
>>182643178
>>182643826
>Stories of hosts kicking
I saw a freshly infamoused person do pretty much half of a loud heist on their own as the 2 shitters died (I was the other half). Unfortunately one of the shitters was the host and kicked him afterwards for "low level leeching", I called him a faggot shitter then left afterwards.
The default ban system is ass and won't let you add said shitter hosts to your list after they kick you. You kind of have to keep a list of these retards manually to avoid if you're not using mods.
Strobe mode for flashlights?
>>182643178
There's a solution waving itself right in your face, and if you're too retarded to see it, uninstalling would be for everyones benefit
COLD HEART PUMPING
>>182571085
>>182583667
Unbalance 2015 destroyed ARs permanently.
Now Silent Shitter is the only way to make mediocre guns barely hit breakpoints.The Val was always shit though.
>>182632256
>So why haven't the devs fixed this yet?
Multiple people pointed out the exact lines of code where this is happening.
Devs insist it's not a bug / it's not the problem code.
So it doesn't get fixed.
>>182641170
Get all the civ control skills and saw skills.
Even if there are 20 alerted civs on the map, you can control them just by grinding the saw on the ground once every few seconds (like 10-15?).
Has to be in the bank though because it's the middle of the map, the radius is huge but not big enough to cover the whole map from one side.
Then pray that you don't get GenSec guards showing up because of fucking Hilary from GenSec and after 4 minutes, get in the vault, grab one bag, get out.
This is the plan if you're going to try solo.
If you have friends, you can bring extra ties to wrangle civs with out of sight but it's still the same general solution with grinding the saw to keep the civs on the ground.
>>182648990
It's ok. I've done it without a saw or loud weapons and with gensec showing. Forgot I put a silencer on my weapon so I couldn't noise control them and that I should probably take a saw but oh well. Got it on the first try luckily, never doing it again.
>>182649134
Answer for GO Bank is to just do it loud anyway, or bring body bags.
>>182649215
You realize you can't get the achievement to complete it in stealth if you go loud? Also you're not allowed to kill civs.
>>182649516
I know we were talking about the professionals achievement.
Just saying, this is why nobody stealths GO Bank unless they're forced to.Or they're a shitter who needs the OD achievement
>Page 9
>>182571085
>Page 9
Will weapon balance ever get unfucked?
>>182653215
Not until Jules hangs from a tree
>page 9
>page 9
>>182657756
I can tell how old this is by the gun he's holding
>>182658425
>he
>page
>>182539309
What's good, heisters? New side jobs are out!
Today's Daily Side Jobs are:
- For The Pension Fund (earn_2000k_offshore_cash)
- Target Practice: Pistol (pistol_100_kills)
And today's Safehouse Daily is:
- Just Like The Old Days (daily_sewers)
Brought to you by Chains.
Keep those helmets flying! ;)
Anyone have any achievements or safehouse trophies they want help with?
>>182661463
Robbedacop please.
>>182661463
I wouldn't say no to doing Scrap Metal during the weekend.
>>182621757
>Election day
>Not Framing Frame
You should never play framing frame to begin with but you know.
1. Getting closer to first infamy
2. Is it me or do cops use shotguns now and didn't before?
3. If yes, what else is in the update
>>182662585
Cops always had shotguns. It's RNG.
Normal cops, blues, yellows, greens, tans, dozers, and even greys.
The only ones without shotgun variants are like, the hostage rescue towelheads and the non-Dozer Specials.
What are the best patterns for the Kawaii mask ?
>>182661723
I'd be down to help with that, just post whenever and I'll keep an eye out.
>>182661608
Here's a tip to help,kill cops.
i'm new to this game
i did the basic tutorials and the jewelry store heist, now what
>>182665042
Rob banks while spending everything on masks that represent the hole left by depression.
>>182665042
Make up a meme build that barely holds up on overkill, and take it into One down.
>>182662815
I feel like grey SWAT from the old DW never used shotguns before Biker Heist
>>182663401
Masked villain is pretty much the best option you have for it apart from vanilla.
>>182666370
They didn't for some reason, but the shotgun they use is identical to the normal reinbeck so it's pretty worthless
>>182665042
this is a hoard-shooter type game. it doesn't matter what map you play next. its all the same.
>>182667606
what about stealtH?
>>182665042
Do some simpler loud heists like Slaughterhouse and bank heists until you get some decent skills. Stick to Very Hard as well, as Overkill might overwhelm you until you can get a proper build/decently built weapons.Get the M308. Best gun in the game.
https://youtu.be/mqVOmoWn9Jc
>>182667835
Stealth sucks ass. Never do it unless you're actually autistic.
>>182667835
You don't get the sick music on stealth.
Literally unplayable.
>>182667835
Stealth is pretty comfy and fun, give it a try solo and don't rush anything.
>>182667835
boring as fuck
>restart until you get good RNG
>AI pathing sucks ass
>waits several minutes for guards to move
>guards have 360 degree vision, including above them, can see shit from hundreds of feet away
>detection is host based, good luck stealthing as a client
>guard position is host based
>corpse and bag position is also host based
>restarting in 3...
>>182668803
>i'm bad and i suck at stealth
>>182667835
Stealth can befun
Public games will suck the fun out of it though, do it solo or with friends.
>>182669389
>t. someone who doesn't play stealth
>>182669501
It's only fun with friends once in awhile for a change of pace, suicide is a preferable alternative to solo stelt.
>>182669892
t. ictv shitter
>>182669892
Clearly you don't if you think it's hard. Unless we're talking about pubs but that's a different thing.
>>182670503
>Person literally states huge issues that effect not just pubs, but solo. Issues that make for an unfun, tedious, and overall terrible stealth system.
>"You seriously have never played have you?"
Play Framing Frame Solo without resetting.
>>182671112
Never heard of me or any of my friends restarting for better RNG, AI pathing sucks but what's the deal, hold up a sec until the AI moves away. There are some guards that hold up a bit longer but you can usually avoid them. 360 degree vision? Haven't experienced that solo. Detection, guard position, corpse and bag position are also non-existant solo. Not sure what your problem is, but alright.
hello
>About to get cloaker'd
>Deck it in the face with EBK as it's jumping at me
>I didn't get downed
Holy shit that's cool.
>>182674323
post your dick
>>182572486
How much more DRM has this faggot loaded onto his mod?
>>182640851
It has some sickDRM
>>182667859
Dumb hamsterposter kys
>M308The judge
>>182678621
Is a secondaryand I personally prefer the Loco.
>This host is running the following mod
>Silent Assassin
I leave even if it's a loud heist.
>>182680819
It's just too easy having silent assassin, how can shitters even use it?
>>182667869
>unseen strike aced
Can anyone recommend it?
>>182681693
It really is too easy, what's the point of even playing at that point?
>>182666370
Greys and Tans never used shotguns in old OVK/DW, all the shotgun cops were the weak ass greens
>>182681880
It's mostly shadow raid pubs that have it from my experience and it becomes
>run in and shoot everyone without them getting detected
>fuck around while they get all the loot on the map
It's a snorefest
>>182540702
>>182674520
The buzzer is better for decloakering but it's shittier if you have to stun multiple people at once.
Is muscle dodge legit?
>>182680819
>>182681693
>>182681880
>>182682136i use it for a solo dockyard challenge where you have to kill the entire map with no pagers allowed and no bots
I was always wondering, how are the consoles versions compared to the PC payday 2 ?
>>182682136
Now that you mention it, my friend got it for shadow raid too. I have no idea what the charm is.
Does concealment affect how quickly a weapon can be drawn and holstered?
>>182685723
There's a challenge where you have to kill the entire map with no pagers? What?
>>182685980
Not no pagers, but the challenge is for murky dock to kill everyone on the map and still escape, normally you need people to do it since the pagers will make the countdown start
I've spent some time thinking about the dodge vs armour dilemma.
The higher the difficulty and enemy damage rises the stronger dodge becomes in comparison to armour.
The reason is that an armour value's strength depends on what amount of damage it's up against while dodge always works well regardless of damage.
What solutions would you suggest in order to fix it's viability regardless of difficulty?
So that it's not extremely good on low ones and relatively poor on higher ones.
I thought of the idea of reducing armour "health" itself and adding a new percentage-based damage reduction that depends on the armour.
So for example the ICTV could have something like 60% damage resistance, meaning that all armour damage you take is reduced by that percentage.
This would pretty much add a percentage-based mechanic similar to dodge that would stay viable throughout different difficulty levels.
What do you think?
new game content (heist or heister) when ?
>>182687445
>What solutions would you suggest in order to fix it's viability regardless of difficulty?
Heavily reduce the damage increase from difficulty levels, and instead make difficulty spawn more and more cops as it goes up.
What fuck over dodge is RNG, make them roll a lot more and their viability get a hit.
>>182687838
Tomorrow
>>182685665
Not really, it was better whne suit gave more dodge and so did some skills i think, long time ago
>>182687445
What you are suggesting is pretty much infiltrator, damage resistance won't help you either way if the damage valeus for cops are too big
>>182688195
Infiltrator's resistance values are situational and only go up to 32%.
The 60% I pulled out of my ass are about double that.
>>182687445
>I thought of the idea of reducing armour "health" itself and adding a new percentage-based damage reduction that depends on the armour.
>So for example the ICTV could have something like 60% damage resistance, meaning that all armour damage you take is reduced by that percentage.
>This would pretty much add a percentage-based mechanic similar to dodge that would stay viable throughout different difficulty levels.
this would literally do nothing except make anarchist ictv better
100 armor with 60% damage reduction is the exact same thing as 250, there is 0 difference
i would tell you to use your brain but your image lets me know it doesn't exist
>>182687987
>>182688195
This. I hate when game difficulties just tack on more HP and damage to things. Going from normal to overkill was more fun for me than going beyond overkill.
>>182688712
>100 armor with 60% damage reduction is the exact same thing as 250, there is 0 difference
0.6 * 250 = 150
100 ~= 150
????
The fundamental difference between dodge and armor is that armor stops doing anything once it reaches 0. Dodge gets more use out of healing than armor does because dodge increases effective HP.
>>182688712
Rude.
Well, reading over the shit I wrote makes me question myself too, it's pretty late right now.
How about changing armor into counting hits instead of damage?
So that the ICTV can tank so and so many hits before breaking.
>>182689628
You fucked up your math there lad.
250 * (1 - 0.6) = 100
>>182687445
>The reason is that an armour value's strength depends on what amount of damage it's up against while dodge always works well regardless of damage.
Only partially right. The strength of armor depends on the ability to find cover. When dozers are isolated I shamelessly walk up and start blasting them in the face because I know my armor can soak a hit and I'll be able to recover it after the dozer is dead. On the other hand, the number one reason I die is because enemies are firing from all sides and I can't find a safe spot to hide. Dodge is just always on.
>the card you pick at the end of a heist is purely cosmetic and your prize is already pre determined
steam told me i had a safe long before i even picked a card
>>182690296
>The strength of armor depends on the ability to find cover.
Unless you use one of the perk decks that make it so it isn't.
>>182688712
>100 armor with 60% damage reduction is the exact same thing as 250, there is 0 difference
It makes that 25 armor recovery perk grant over 60 armor instead.
Just keep the damage the same across difficulties and spawn more enemies. Or at least the same damage on overkill and above. In order to not die you will have to kill more or no cover will be enough to avoid getting overwhelmed, therefore it requires more skill. Also add the crime spree modifiers, like medic bulldozers.
>>182691325
Won't that just make the issue of DLC being absolutely needed to play the game worse?
Base game players get NO aoe weapons.
>>182691325
I agree that the ridiculous damage and health scaling is arse, but spawning a shitton of enemies would strain the already worn-out engine even further, and excessive enemy numbers would pretty much amount to the same result as having fewer high-damage enemies.
Having them meet in the middle seems to be more appropriate, as well as adding more difficulty-defining shit similar to crime spree modifiers.
>>182691592
Base game players get grenades, but that's pretty much it.
FL Aced would give them a refilling pseudo-GL.
>>182691592
They get shotguns.
>>182691592
Get an assault rifle and start shooting.
I also remember a dev saying that they wanted to include a free grenade launcher down the road.
>>182691858
Not necessarily. I can deal with 100 blue normal cops with any weapon, but I can't deal with 20 OD grey normal with the average weapon. Or maybe I can't at all if the cover sucks and I have to spend one Swan Song to clear them. One Down guys just tear through you mercilessly, even Death Wish is more flexible.
Is it possible to use a stealth bonus xp boost on claiming the crime spree rewards?
Does the stealth bonus apply to safe house raids?
>>182692689
Anyone got accurate gameplay of how One Down fighting traditionally goes? Looking for videos and I find things heavily cherry picked with 1/10th the amount of enemies there usually are.
>>182694521
You hide like a fucking pussy and do objectives and let jokers and AI crew tank everything
>>182693931
yes
playing a safe house raid while you have a stealth bonus accumulated will spend the bonus on the shitty exp you get from the raid
>>182694637
And then you run to the escape zone only to get sniped and have to finish during swan song duration.
HEY YOU GET ON YOUR FEETS
post your feet
Do the boiling point heists have a russian medic?
>>182663401
mega kawaii
>>182700547
ayy lmao
>>182700582
I believe the medics that spawn in them have russian lines, but their model is unchanged.
Unseen strike is garbage.
Akimbo krinkovs suck.
revolver ocelot mod when
>>182706714
april fools
>>182707693
>a good april fools joke
ha
>>182694637
>jokers
Makes sense to fight bloated stats with aimbots with bloated stats with aimbots.
>silenced guns deal a third more damage than unsilenced
wtf, why won't army just put a silencer on every M4
>airport lost my bag
well, anyone wanna play?
>>182688712
Except giving armor regen 60% more value retard.
It would be way stronger then doge.
>>182710615
>implying that's a bad thing with artificial difficulties
>>182710615
>>182707912
i e-stalked jwilko's youtube channel like a week after the spring break event and saw the video of his unreleased shalashaska perk deck from 2015
/pdg/ said there were richocheting bullets as part of april fools this year and considering jwilko was hired by starbreeze since june of last year it's safe to say it's the same mod
speaking of e-stalking https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuNgGQtdJ3Y
Since this skill is useless, how about this for a replacement:
Endless Assault
Basic: Your weapons reload themselves one bullet at a time when holstered. The time it takes to fully reload an empty weapon is equal to 300% of its reload time.
Aced: The time is now 100% of reload time.
>>182713259
Nerf it to be 500% reload time normally and only 200% otherwise. Some reload speeds are stupid fast after all.
>>182714182
Is being able to reload a gun with your dick while firing another gun really that powerful?
>>182713259
that sounds worse than what we have
how do you even come up with ideas this bad
>>182713259
>buff the % headshot multiplier for basic to 60%
>change Aced to double your headshot multiplier with automatic weapons, but keeps the bodyshot mutiplier bonus at 60% instead of boosting it to 90%
>>182715216
that's more powerful than the version it was nerfed from
>>182715326
I thought the point of the nerf was keeping crossbows from using it and it affecting bulldozers.
>>182715367
Which is the only thing it was good for. 18 points to compensate for lack of aiming is not a good deal.
>>182715367
if that was the real reason they could have simply removed "special" from the weapon groups
>>182715613
>not wanting to set up a tripod with the Buzzsaw and mow down hallways of cops
Hello, I'm a massive newfag to this game, give me some tips please.also how do I stop the massive framedrops when killing an enemy midair?
>get Tough Act to Follow
>never did shit like murky station
It only take into account heist that can be completed loud ?
>>182544757
what's going on here?
>>182717267
always aim for headshots, no exceptions
try and remember what alternative icons a heist has (what doors can be sawed, what safes can be c4'd, etc) so you can bring usefull stuff of you have it
hoxton breakout has massive xp and cash payout in relation to it's dificulty/length although there are other ways to grind faster
>>182718457
why saw a door when you can shoot the lock?
>>182718760
Because it only work on weak ass doors, anything that has a metallic cover cannot be shot out.
>>182718760
not all door locks can be shot
the metal doors on the back/side of Bank Heist can only be sawed or lockpicked
>>182718421
Dumbass didn't reset the down counter.
>>182717779
quite a few heists are dlc and don't count for that or the very hard/etc skulls
Page 10stealing weapons from a police station when?
>>182722283the hotline maimi heist should have been breaking jacket out of prison
the one in the game has nothing to do with HM besides russian killing
>>182723442
How did he join the payday gang? Did he just show up randomly for no reason because cameo/crossovers?
>>182723818
his trailer just has wolf call him up to torture some guy
that's literally all that happens
NO MERCY WHEN
REAL DIAMOND HEIST WHENactually hard difficulty whennerfed perk decks when
>play big oil with pubs,
>everything goes normal as usual with pubs,
>mfw one of the computer screen is already broken when getting in the lab and it had to be of course the one with the last intel
what is this shit ?
>>182723961
Kind of hard to imagine there's an actual story involved when they pull shit like that, how disappointing. Though I do like the idea thatJacket survived the russian faggotry to join forces with the payday gang to exact vengeance.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRGHH
What's your favoritestealthheist?
>>182728768
Yacht
>>182727756
I NEED
payday movie when
Why do people insist on doing stealth overkill, mayhem, death wish instead of going straight to one down?
No, destroying cameras is a stupid idea, guards will notice them.
>>182728825
>world goes slow and gray
aaaaaaa MEEeeeeddddkKkiiiiiittttt
GET THE FUCK UP
>>182724268
explosions can break it through the walls/floor
I thought Scarface was going to be tolerable since the exterior guards don't have pagers, but all of those cameras ruined it.
>>182694797
thanks
comee.
>>182732209
>shoot needed screen
>place body bags on top of Clipboard/page
>>182740074
Also
>hide right engine
>>182713259
Nah, gay. I want to be able to spray my LMG down a street and cull a squad or two, don't take that away from me.
ONE
>>182741889
NOTHING'S WRONG WITH ME
TWO
Fucking breakout day 2 FBIs are MVPs, always manage to pleasantly surprise me. Is there any reason why they're so durable?
ONE! ONE! ONE! ONE! ONE! ONE! ONE! ONE! ONE!
>>182712930
>tfw you will never fight communist scum after a hostile takeover with loads of money
Thoughts on giving DMR rifles shield pen similiar to snipers?
>>182713259
That's the most useless thing in existence, not to mention we already have speed reload and multiple skills to reduce reload time
>>182723818
G-Man takes him away and tells him to work with the Payday gang
>>182744652
DMRs are already OP enough, fuck off gay
>>182742605
they have as much hp as a murkywater cunt.
+ aced partner in crime (lol99%damageresist) and their bugged weapons which do more damage than their special force counterparts on higher difficulties.
>>182745092
The weapons aren't bugged, it's just Overkillâ„¢ quality.
>>182744652
Just use the Contractor faggot
>People still play this garbage
What's you're excuse?
>>182748137
The excuse is that AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH
>>182748716
need a medic bag?
>>182748813
This thread needs a medic bag.
>>182748926
>>182748926
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH
>>182748971
>>182748716
Is crook viable in mayhem?
>>182680819
>>182681693
>>182681880
>>182682136
>guards carrying pagers you have to answer
>the guard on watch doesn't notice the guy answering said pagers isn't the same voice
is somehow more realistic than
>0 pagers allowed
>(melee) killing all guards in the map
>>182749393
What ''realism''? We're talking about difficulty you autist.
>>182749279
Anything is viable below OD if you're good enough.
>>182749279
>>182749552
Agree with that anon, also crook is decent in general so go for it if it looks fun.
>>182749537
and you only play stealth for the difficulty aspect of it?
being subjected to random guard pathing is both fun and challenging
>>182749779
No one is saying anything about realism or only playing for the difficulty. Making the difficulty non-existant is not fun for me or the other anons that commented on it. Considering you can't into reading comprehention this'll be my last (you) for (you).
>>182750017
>Making the difficulty non-existent is not fun
have you tried the mod?
>tfw can't make the car-4 look good and be accurate for stealth
>>182749279
for a dodge build crook is always viable
AAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>182751520
I require medical supplies stored in a portable case.
>>182748716
>>182748813
>>182748926
>>182748971
Omg! Le medic bag xD!
SUK MAH DICK CLOAKA
>>182685732
They suck and are a few dozen updates behind.
PS4 version still has no voice chat.
UPDATE IN THREE HOURS GUYS
>>182754692
It better fix the lagspiking desync shit.
>>182757394
835HF...
Danke Ashley
>>182757394
6POGJ here
You rock m8
>>182757394
284pg used
>>182757394
FHLZL
Thanks Ashley <3
>>182757609
>>182757674
>>182757724
>>182757804
Wonder if any of you fags are Australians who actually needed it.
>>182759238
>said thanks
too polite to be aussies
post dragan
Reminder that there's a new cheat mod staling silent assassin crowd
https://modworkshop.net/mydownloads.php?action=view_down&did=20375
Reminder that PD:TH Hud contains os.execute()
The other fundamental upside of dodge is that it doesn't eat up all your points because it doesn't require an aced tier 4 skill. The heavy lifting is regulated to your perk deck. But this doesn't mean armor builds have more options regarding perk decks, because Payday 2 is a shitty unbalanced game. Armor builds STILL need to use a perk deck to increase their defense, it's just nowhere near as good as what dodge gets. They have to spend more points AND use worse decks.
>>182766210
Sociopath is pretty good now but yeh all the good decks dont use armor. The higher the difficulty the worse it gets.
whats the point of armor bags
>>182769813
We just don't know
>armorer is good
>hitman is good
>ex president is good
>>182760860
>People actually use silent assassin
So how exactly do you learn the maps?
>drop into game
>know jack-shit about where anything is or what the fuck I should do right now
>host game myself online
>get people who permanently bitch about how I should just stay back and do nothing
>host game offline
>still don't know what any of the mechanics of the map are
>fail for a couple hours without learning anything of note
Is this where friends to play with come in? Because playing the same 5 maps I know gets old with time.
>>182771927
Stop trying to stelf faggot.
>>182769813
Theorically, it's here so that if the heist stealth segment fail, you can still complete it loud.
However it only change armors, and stealth oriented skills have no use in loud and vice versa
>>182771927
>host game offline
>still don't know what any of the mechanics of the map are
This is pretty much what you do.
You listen to Bain.
Then do things Bain tells you to do.
>fail for a couple hours without learning anything of note
You know what? You should do all the stealth-optional maps on loud first because objectives are pretty much the same. That way, you get to run around the map a lot and get to know the area and then try stelf again later.
>>182769813
The point was to let us do achievements that required HBVs with Rogue and just dodge shit all day before putting the vests on at the escape. ;)
>Steam forums bitched so much about how dodge users using suits all day was "unfair" that OVK changed the achievements to using suits
>>182760860
>can knock out guards
>can't drag them away
>>182776569
I-It's for balancing purposes!
I just just managed to solo The Turtle Always Wins.
After this, I really need a Medic Bag.
>>182777164
Any tips?
>>182777265
The biggest tip I can give you is reroll, all the time.
Lockpick the door and clean out E without alerting any guards, get at least 2 or 3 paintings and throw them through the windows to the roof, then move those to the far end of the building.
Then, jump through the window into A, hope there are 3-4 paintings there, throw those up to the windows, then rush out the front door, get on the roof, and toss them all into the van ASAP.
You should try not to get caught until you have all 6 paintings on the roof, after that you can transport all within a minute with your ECMs, but it's REALLY close.
anarchist still op or nah
I'm going with... Caustic Soda.NO WAIT
>>182777715
Thanks Anon.
hey lads, my game keeps crashing, i need help. here's stuff i've already done:
>verified game integrity, nothing missing
>running payday.exe as administrator
>pretty sure its not driver related, since my friend also getting frequent crashes and he has AMD; i got nvidia GPUs.
>running it while browser is closed, its a solution according to some retards so i gave it a shot
in the crash log every reason for crash is this: Application has crashed: access violation
yesterday it was after i complete the heist it would crash so no money and exp would be awarded to me, today its crashing in the middle of the heist. today my first heist was a guys cook off and i was kicked within 30 seconds of joining, apparently everyone else who tried joining were also getting crashes because some guy keep trying to join with me, i was trying to join so i could get the exp since guy had 21 bags already. but after that game was crashing non stop mid heist so im thinking i got infected somehow? anyways any help will be appreciated.
>>182777265
use steam achievement manager lmao
>>182778930
i also use no mods
why they overhype captain winters
all he does is stand still and shout
>>182780492
The problem is that they had to add something that wouldn't fuck up the current difficulties, so he ends up having little impact.
>>182780492
CONTACT HAS BEEN MADE
TACTICAL SPACING
FALL BACK FALL BACK
page 10
>>182780492
Winters is also a bugged piece of shit.
If you destroy him before he sets up camp and the shield appears next to the assault bar, he will stay and never leave.
He doesn't even give the slaughterhouse achievement either.
Why are SWAT Vans so awful?
>>182785878
Because they're designed to make the game impossible unless you pay for weapons.
>>182785878
Get some shit with high rate of fire (not shotgun).
>mfw friends use anarchist with the ICTV unironically
>>182783392
>If you destroy him before he sets up camp and the shield appears next to the assault bar, he will stay and never leave.
They fixed this months ago.
I haven't had a glitched Winters in months.
>>182787394
Happens all the time on Hoxout
>>182787471
I'm always aggressively blowing up Winters while playing Hallway Hero in pubs. I seriously haven't had a problem in months. I'm honestly amazed it's still happening.
>>182787394
>They fixed this months ago.
Bullshit, happened to me in Big Oil day 2 yesterday.
>>182660275
What's good, heisters? New side jobs are out!
Today's Daily Side Jobs are:
- Dentist Appointment! (dentist_4_jobs)
- Diamonds Are Forever (diamonds_are_forever)
And today's Safehouse Daily is:
- New Taste (daily_tasty)
Brought to you by Jimmy.
Keep those helmets flying! ;)
>when you enter swan song while gray
>>182792828
you are not long for this world
>>182778313
hell yah.
kinda breaks down past mayhem tho.
POst payday chan.
Which akimbo pistols fire one at a time instead of double?
give me the three most patrician heisters, /pdg/
>>182797798
Wolf, Houston, Dallas.
>>182797798
>>182797998
How can others even compete?
>>182797798
medic bag man, one man, dude materiel bullshit lmao man
>>182798727
>dude materiel bullshit lmao man
literally who
>>182797998
pretty patrician 8/10, wolf is shit tho
>>182797798
jacket VA1, jacket VA2, jacket VA3
>>182798924
surf man
>>182797798
Houtson, Jimmy, Microsoft Jacket
>>182800726
>Microsoft Jacket
don't cut yourself with that edge
>>182797798
bonnie, bonnie, bonnie
>>182797798
Wolf, Jimmy,Sangres
AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>play overkill -> deathwish get decent players, only few retards
>play one down
>get retards and cheaters XXV who have played game for 60 hours and wonder how the cops never show up when you do bank in stealth
>>182797798
Jiro, Sydney, Bodhi
>>182797798
Dragan, Bonnie, August
My medic bags bring all the heisters to the yAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHrd
Congrats anon, you've just been added to the game as a dlc character
What is the heist/gun/melee/perk deck for you like?
>>182611105
Welcome to the good goy club, faggot.
>>182809256
Golden grin, but loud only.
Akimbo judge, pancor jackhammer, and golden loco 12g
Thermal drill melle
Perk deck is something that does armor, but in a way that's viable on OD without being fucktardedly OP on lower dificulties. And shotgun bonuses.
>>182809256
>heist
the morrisons heist: go to the shop and steal pot noddles
>gun
>guns in bongland
>melee
plastic butter knife
>perk deck
the failure perk deck
>perks
failure: all weapons have a 50% chance to jam
undesirable: automatically kicked from all online lobbies
disgrace: bots target you like a normal enemy
useless: can't carry deployables
retarded: bain never speaks to you and hud is always disabled
>>182809256
Depressed /k/ommando Autist Character pack
>Problem Solver Pistol
>Kraut Space Rifle
>Nugget Javelin Throwable
>Heist where you steal the /k/ube and a shitload of antique and import-banned guns
>masks are just STALKER-tier gas masks
>trying to use a sniper on console
>>182810907
>console
AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH
>>182810972
I'm sorry, I'm playing with my little cousin and he has it on ps4. I always use a sniper on PC but trying to on console was a retarded idea.
>>182812385
>my little cousin
Cute.
To be fair, he probably didn't know better or lacked a good PC.
He should have fun no matter what version he plays.
>>182812874
Made a sentry joker meme build. Surprisingly viable.
>Crime Spree 242
>Do Birth of sky to get past 250 and that achievement
>game crashes at the boat
>mfw
>>182816630
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DFqAJ75rAk
So how are you supposed to do One Down? Is a heavy exploding crossbow the only way?
>there are no skills that favor grenade launchers
>>182820004
Pretty much abuse game mechanics, so dodge or perk decks that have invincibility such as anarchist and armorer are the best options, get jokers to tank shots for you, heavy weapons so snipers or bows, unless you are using weapons with buttload of ammo that can do crits, and hold in a room doing the objective as fast as you can
>>182820004
Get three bots with breaker shotgun
>>182820004
Buying DLC and fighting exclusively during swan song.
who is the cutest heister in this game
>>182802983
>>182808481
Ayy lads.
>>182825342
Hoxton.
anyone else hates when players dont move to the exit when the heist is done?
>>182826296
pls no bully, i'm listening to a podcast and i don't pay super close attention to the objective reminder
>>182797798
sydney clover bonnie
in that order.
What's a good pattern for Mega Kawaii?
>>182826296
What heists does this happen the most on? Election Day day 1 is the one that immediately comes to mind.
>>182826447
>having reminders turned on
HONEY I'M DOWN
NOT THAT I NEED YOU
>>182825696
I said cutest not the one that looked most like a slab of beef that got run over
>>182834691
Fok u
>page 9
>>182834978
delete your account hoxton
DOWN ON THE GROUND
>>182834691
WANKER
>>182834454
LOOK AT ME NOW
YOU'VE MADE A BELIEVER
When are you able to put on the c4 on the ticket machine in the alesso heist? Trying to get the achievement but I can't seem to get the interaction point.
GET UP AND I KILL YOU
Is Lab Rats what Jimmy dreams about when he's dying from drug overdose?
>>182844109
>dying
>>182844207
He dies all the time since he can just get another body out of his closet.
>>182844313
But is that really dying though? Did Jimmy cease being Jimmy?
>>182632256
Rule number one in payday 2: If it's a balance issue, you can stick it up your ass, the guy in charge of the balance will refuse to recognize something is wrong.
You would have a better chance getting a sydney legendary skin than having the valkyria fixed.
Post your best.
>>182845650
Texas, please follow.
How many chopper accidents yearly do sparrows cause?
Still no mods to replace green and tans with gensecs
>>182845650
Oh Dollos. Where's Walf and Hiccston?
HEY YOU
>>182855214
Omg! Le dead thread maymay xD!
>>182855857
/pdg/ spend a fortune on dying.
ahhh I NEED A MEDIC BAG XDDD
Edeit: tanks 4 teh golld!!!!!!11111
>>182845650
K
>>182858002
>no tank heist
>being so much of a redditor that you ironically redditpost
>Soundtrack: same as host
>Storm Fuel Overload
Best build coming in
http://pd2tools.com/l/96b2a4ba29ad269485f2f33f7713bed3
>>182844963
Jimmy died all the time in the movies, he just shuffles his consciousness around
>>182863392
>using saw on enemies
>wasting points in fire tripmines
>>182863392
Gee Wolf! How Come Bain Lets You Get Two Saws?
>>182843520
Are you trying the moment you get the C4?
It's probably either when you start putting the C4 on the ceilings or after you blow up the ceiling.
>>182863934
A team mechanic operates mysterious ways.
>page 10
>>182867015
I wish it was Wick
>>182788478
What's good, heisters? New side jobs are out!
Today's Daily Side Jobs are:
- Situation Normal (slakt_3)
- Target Practice: Submachine Gun (smg_100_kills)
And today's Safehouse Daily is:
- No More Debts (daily_mortage)
Brought to you by Houston.
Keep those helmets flying! ;)
>>182867434
why would anyone do side jobs when crime spree exists?
Is rushing jewerly store still the best way to farm mods? Haven't played in two years. Also do boosts drop as well?
>>182867434
>new side jobs
>not a single new one
>>182867993
If you have shitloads of offshore money you can gamble for mods. Or pay 6 coins for the exact one you want.
A long crime spree also gets you shitton of drops, including boosts.
>>182867993
Crime Sprees
Basically doing even one heist in Crime Spree gives you several cards. And bots make it stupidly easy to get high levels of Crime Sprees so you can do one, cash out, repeat, or just cash out at like 500.
>>182867957
Coins from the dailies are still nice.
>>182867993
Doing crime sprees. Get continental coins.
You can use coins to buy any mod you want now.
http://pd2tools.com/l/f2daf3421596730cb542a2a4e348e935
On a scale of what the fuck nigger, how high am i ?
How do people keep joining my lobbies when I put them on friends-only and private? Did a patch screw something up or is my game bugged? Everyone is called [unkown].
>>182870730
[unknown] shows up when there are connection issues. Did you set it to private AFTER you created the lobby? Because the 5-10 seconds of space is enough to have Crime.net send people your way.
Also Friends-only can be bypassed if somebody clicks the [Join Game] options via Steam Chat or your Profile.
Private games, no idea. [Join Game] goes away when you make it private.
>>182872871
Weird, made it private from the start, created it that way. And people still kept joining. Restarted the game and it still doesn't work.
>>182797798
Scarface, Wolf, Wick and also Jacket
>>182873079
I got nothing then.
>>182874725
Alright, thanks anyway. I've meanwhile made the lobby on my other PC, guess it's a problem with my main one.
>>182875343
Most likely some weird connection shenanigans
Just played around with and noticed that the Falcon Rifle is pretty good as far as accuracy and stability is concerned.
That thing is pretty much a laser pointer in recoil and precision if you mod it right.
>>182877340
Most 80 damage rifles are like that, they are pretty fun but kinda hard to manage sometimes
So what exactly is the secret to gitting gud in the combat?
Because Mayhem and above enemies feel like a stone wall that I run into without leaving a damn dent
>>182883962
Try headshotting them? Even 40 damage rifles work on mayhem.
>>182884060
Been trying to but I don't know if I keep missing or something but they take what feels like an assload of headshots to take down. And until then they already shot me into mouth-sized pieces.
>>182884345
What weapons are you using? Are they modded properly?
>>182884493
UAR with 44dmg and Judge with 166.
It gives me hit indicators as well so I know I must at least with hitting some of the shots.
>Golden Grin casino
>that one guy who just runs around killing everything above while everyone else is in the vault
why do these people exist
>>182885551
I bet he'shaving fun.
>>182884743
Well, I'm guessing you're new to the game so I would suggest you move away from the 40 damage rifles and move onto something that hits harder, at least the 80 damage ones. Body expertise helps with damage if you have bad aim but you should really try to go for headshots all the time and save yourself the poitns. Judge is a solid weapon, especially if you get shotgun skills, might want to get a primary shotgun then (maybe with dragan's breath).
Whenever I see Lion's Den offered on crime spree, I just die a little inside. It's such a shit level.
>>182885551
>why does someone hold off the cops before they overwhelm us in a cramped space
Hmmm, we might never know
>>182886289
New-ish.
Played till ~60, stopped when Shadow Raid was the new hotness, now I'm trying to pick it up again
>>182888208
>implying you can get overwhelmed in a cramped space
Anon pls. The best place to be is inside a small cramped space. It's the wide open ones that kill you.
>>182889605
the wide open ones with fucking snipers that reck your armor no matter how broken your build.
>>182889363
I'd suggest you just pick up higher damaging weapons until you feel comfortable playing higher difficulties.
>>182890501
>fucking snipers
Every cop is a sniper. They all just have a flat dice roll to smack you with their bullets.
>>182891585
are you out of everything but jackets
>>182891585
>tfw you go take out the trash and then miss Trashly's codes
>>182891585
Fuck you Trashly. All your dumb mask posting made me gave up on the codes and now you post actual content.
>>182892261
I don't have dlc, but have mask packs ect. I'm not going to be posting UE copies of Payday 2.
>>182892642
Jacket Character is not DLC? What is it then?
>>182892739
It is a DLC but it's a DLC attached to the Hotline Miami 2 special edition, not PD2 Ultimate Edition.
>>182892642
give convention masks
>putting a new scope on the Platypus and then switching back to the old scope locks the weapon as DLC and you have to sell and rebuy to continue using
Why is this a thing, it's absolutely retarded.
>>182892642
Trashly fix this shit
>>182892642
Can you post some mega clovers please?
>>182892642
Have you actually read all those doujins you post crops from?
>>182894523
Post on the bug reporting forum and it'll get looked at, BBK is trained well.
>>182894749
Mostly no.
>>182895576
>Mostly no.
Fucking casual. Get out of my face.
>>182895576
Hey Ashley, I made a few threads about missing tracks from the Soundtrack DLC but nobody ever replied.
Are there any plans to ever fix these bugs?
>>182897621
They aren't missing from a bug, overkill hasn't updated soundtrack in years for unknow reasons, probably some legal stuff
>>182897798
>overkill hasn't updated soundtrack in years for unknow reasons
Missing feature/content = Bug
>probably some legal stuff
Given that Simon is the one making the tracks and we got plenty of tracks way after Simon left, can't be legal.
>>182863392You know you don't get the bonus armor from Die Hard Aced unless it's a Ballistic Vest right?
Why are the rewards for Car Shop so shit? Literally gives NO stealth bonus.
>>182863392
Fuck off chickenshit
>>182899130
You dont stealth it, retard
>>182899130
Because the alarm goes off, it's not a real stealth heist. That's why there's no stealth bonus. In Crime.net, you can see that there's no Stealth is optional message or the Pacman ghost icon.
Also if you didn't notice, it's designed to be ECM rushed by 4 people.
>>182825696
So close but still so far away...
What's the shittiest stealth heist?
>>182793316
d-depends on if aced or not...
>>182792828
>when you use a medic bag while gray
>>182902389
All of them.
...I don't know, GO Bank is pretty garbage for both loud and stealth.
>>182902389
Probably Golden Grin.
I enjoy the process of stealthing it, but you are literally incapable of killing any guards other than the three in the back rooms and the one guard that patrols the entire map or you eventually just get fucked over because they immediately get pissed off at the security room being open. It's also terribly designed for anything more than solo play so it generally boils down to one person doing anything and the other three players just dicking around with the slots are doing the most minimum objectives
>>182902389
Big Bank is pretty high up there if you don't buy a separate escape.
Then there's GO Bank and Alesso.
Framing Frame Day 3 is also pretty bad.
>>182889363
>>182890763
Just tried out some DW with the UAR and no damage skills and it really eats up ammo trying to gun enemies down. It's managable but not fun at all for me, so I stay with my suggestion of some higher damage rifles
>>182904251
How is GO Bank bad? That worst that can happen is bad phone call RNG.
>>182905979
Infinite civs can fuck a lot of people
>>182904251
Framing Frame isn't that bad since they fixed the cameras making one or two situations unwinnable
>>182905979
The design is stupidly annoying with how many things can go wrong at any time and the alarm/failure is guaranteed once you take too long. If the whole game was always about 4-man stealth teams, sure it might not be bad but PD2 is not like that at all, so it is shit design. Making the game so dependent on RNG for the wrong reasons is just bad design in general.
>worst that can happen is the alarm going off to force you to restart yet fucking again
FTFY
>>182906851
Having to open and close that stupid bookcase 8 to 16 times is just tedious and retarded.
>>182906175
>infinite civs
are you from the past?
civs stop spawning when vault opens
>>182906851
But did they fix the vault being able to spawn in an unwinnable spot?
>>182907453
What spot?
>>182907453
You mean the first floor atrium? It's not great. Though you can eventually whittle the map down to two guards if you're patient.
>>182907280
If you get Bedroom vault you can safely hide all the coke and gold bags behind the bed, speeds things up *considerably*. There's also the stairwell near atrium vault but guards do go back there very rarely.
>>182905979
>low payout
>100 civs inside bank
>10 cameras and 4 guards inside one room so gotta clutch with that ecm
>bank entirely made out of windows
>even if you manage to control the mob, there's random civs spawning on the street
>have to kill those civs and leave the bodies on the street because you ran out of handcuffs and body bags 10 mins ago
>random phone calls that can happen one after another
>"special event" where you start with truck and 2 extra guards outside the bank
>gotta wait for that timelock
>lol lasers in vault, have fun rushing out to that phone
>pain in the ass to solo and too much effort to make a group for it
>csgo map
>even doing it loud is just plain cancer due to lack of cover, cramped corridor and 1 way to secure the loot - surrounded by snipers
Might as well just do regular bank faster, with 1-10th the effort and probably even better payout.
>>182907975
Stockholm syndrome.
How to become completely invincible?
>>182908354
On what difficulty
You can go full retard and do a shotgun build with frenzy and anarchist and be basically 100% invincible on overkill
>>182908354
Hitman + Hostage Taker is basically invincible on overkill.
>>182583667
all weapons are good with compensators as long as you can aim good and you don't spray like a retard
is it possible to do a melee build?
>>182909319
It's not even difficult to do a melle build on normal and hard.
>>182902389
car shop. if you are playing dw and the fucking idiots don't know how to drive then you are going to fail every time
>>182909319
You missed the bus for a melee build, that perfect moment of pre skill tree update but post weapon rework where there were actually good melee skills and you could use the minigun to move triple speed
>>182908565
What about One Down?
>>182910134
The only way to be invincible on OD is to just get jokers and AI teammates and let them do everything while you be a pussy and do objectives
>>182908354
pick muscle and stay in cover
>>182909319
ace shock and awe and most of the brawler three in the fugitive skillset, you can make a melee build, but you are better off keeping your distance
>>182910226
That doesn't sound like a fun way to play OD.
>>182910694
I have the one down mask and wasn't aware there was a fun way to play OD
>>182910770
But video games are supposed to be fun!
>>182910694
You just found out why people don't like OD
>>182910830
And men are supposed to like women unlike you
>>182910830
I find it more enjoyable to auto pilot with retarded builds than actually be challenged and have a viable pool of like 12 guns but that's me, maybe that ain't you
>>182910694
>OD
>fun
OVK made OD to spite the players who complained DW was too easy (which is true).
I wanna run with a shotgun type weapon and be super fast, any recommendations on how I would build this?
>>182911523
Suppressed izhma with all battleghost meme skills.
>>182911523
Light ballistic vest fast or suit fast?
>>182911684
>>182911676
As fast and durable as possible, dodge preferred over armor.
>>182910694
There is no fun way to play OD
see>>182910942
On top of that, there's no fun way to be invincible, either.
What if Tooth and Claw also made you immune to suppression?
>>182912205
doesn't already make your armor recover after 5 seconds no matter what and in 1.5s if you lose it completely?
>>182907689
>newfag pretends to know the game
cam used to spawn on the 2nd floor facing the hallway vault
>>182907453
>Asking a question that was answered in the post you responded to and I just assumed you were talking about the worst vault spot which sucks ass and isn't fun
>This is my fault
How about you learn to read, you fucking mong?
>>182797798
Chains, Bonnie, Jimmy.
New safe when
Where did my thick skin went?
>>182920467
bonnie safe when
French heister when?
Can basegame players get safes other than Sangres'?
I got like five of those now, and have seen buyfags get other safes.
>>182928457
should be able to get Armor, Sangres, and Community 3 safes if I'm correct.
Could just be unlucky.
>>182928457
Every PD2 player (even free weekend ones) can get a weekly safe from any safe in the rotation. The newest one usually has a higher drop rate than the older ones.
How does anyone stand using a pistol build unless they've got litterally no other choice?
>>182933132
They don't, not anymore.
Unbalance 2015 fucked up pistol builds forever. Then the skill tree rework shat on them some more.
>>182933132
>>182935032
I could maybe take my retarded 3 revolver build into DW but it wouldn't be worth the hassle
What's wrong with pistols?
The bronco is alright without skills and with the castigos and trigger happy and low blow you just tear through everything. You don't need low blow either.
muh unbalance
>>182897798
They're aware of it but legally i genuinely cannot say more i'm afraid. D:
>>182943292
you forgot the codes slut
>>182943292
Post codes or stop shitting up the general with your lack of penis
REBALANCE WHEN
>>182943931
>Trashly
>lack of penis
I sent in an email to overkill trying to get a jacket code because I'm Australian months ago
I'm never getting him am I?
>>182948306
rip
>>182948306
http://steamcommunity.com/app/218620/discussions/8/1457328392109175122/
I feel like I've gone through every option menu and I still can't find out which mod binds the B key to some voice line menu. Just want to change the key to something else so inspect weapon stays on B. Any ideas?
Haven't played since they fucked all the gun balance up before they changed the skill trees, what's the meta now?
>>182952618
Whatever you find fun to play with up until OD.
>>182951723
Uninstall mods one by one until it's unbound.
>>182952618
DW and below: Anything goes, just git gud
OD: Crossbows, nade launchers, suit dodge, 180 damage DMRs, crutch song, fire DoTs, mandatory Inspire, and Jokers.
>>182952669
Yeah that's the last resort, thought someone knows what the mod that does it is.
Has anyone been able to figure out a way to mod the screen filters? Most of the given ones are pretty boring.
How the fuck boat is a possible escape during stealth train heist. This shit is fucking stupid.
>>182953279
Well, you could also go through the list of mods you installed and see which ones provide a voice line menu.
Long time ago, there was only one mod (a HUD) that did that so it was pretty obvious but now, there are several so it's hard to say what the likely culprits are now.
>>182951723
It's probably pocohud/pocorose standalone.
>>182956538
Ziplines.
>>182907371
>playing stealth ever
>>182797798
Dallas, Hoxton, Dragan
>all those safe house raid pubs
Option to filter those when ?
>page 10
>page 9
>>182964992
Y_Y
Is jacket going to be in payday 3
>>182967343
probably none of the crossover characters will be due to legal reasons
So how do you find people to play with?
Because pubs and soloing everything is getting pretty boring.
>>182969425
I wouldn't be surprised if wick appeared in pd3 since overkill loves making more and more stuff for him
>>182969838
you have /pdg/-group for that
>accidentally fuck up the stealth
>host instantly kicks someone else blaming them for it acting really nasty about it
>Blow up the host on purpose with tripmines next round
Who else naughty to shitheads?
>play deathwish for the first time
>still see tan and green/black dozers
Why bother.
>>182972571
What's the problem? Why do you think there's no point in bothering?
>>182967343
I hope not
>>182809256
eastern eu slav fuck
underground bunker filled with prototype stalker exoskeleton in slavtown get to fight ruskies again
OC14 Groza, MP133 and AN94
melee is boot kick, always wearing trackpants even if the character is not
perk deck is +dodge for sprinting/crouching and final best deal is sprinting while crouching
>>182809256
>a Heist taking place in an Armory, I like guns, so why not steal a bunch of them. The real prize, however, is really a working panchor jackhammer prototype
>Weapon would be said prototype, has the damage of the pump actions and the highest ROF than all shotguns, but only holds 10 rounds and only has enough ammo for 2 reloads
>Perk deck would give minor stat boosts to weapons, but the main effect would be firing a gun would have a chance to not spend a round when fired, which increases with the guns ROF and the less ammo you have in reserve and the final effect would be a low chance to not use ammo when reloading, or in payday's ammo system, give back one mag worth of ammo.
Still my favourite mask.
Knock knock
>>182982809
Who's there?
>>182982843
Another police assault, its here in 20 seconds
why doesnt bain countdown to next assault and announce special arrivals anymore
>>182983339
He does
>>182983430
just snipers though
>>182983901
fucking hate snipers
page 10 stop it anon
give me a good build to carry pubtards in DW difficulty. im doing a ICTV anarchist with thatanos and gsps 12g with overkill and silencer skills but ammo is a big issue. thatanos is for bulldozers after proccing overkill and shields and shotgun is for everything else. tried loco but it wasnt 1 shotting normal units mid range.
>>182986845
I SNOIPED THE SNOIPA
>>182991492
>needing a Thanatos to make it on DW
>when you can already proc overkill
Use a sniper rifle with more ammo. Bring Inspire.
>>182992034
already got inspire. killing a dozer takes too long with other sniper rifles. thanatos got like 3.5k dmg on menu with silencer, closest is like what close to 400 with silencer skill. and those "more ammo" snipers 3 shots dozers with overkill in ovk difficulty.
>>182992458
M308 with silencer skills, then. You need a better rate of fire.
>>182993131
i got amr-16 with dmr too. which one got better ammo pick up tho? i always run out of ammo without ammo refund on headshot skill.
>>182993874
CAR-4 with DMR got better ammo pickup, also muh singleshot
>>182993916
No it doesn't. It's 2 per box. M308 is 2-3 or 2-4 cant remember.
>>182971318
>someone else
It was me
>>182994001
Pretty sure Car-4 DMR has better pickup than M308 since they buffed regular Car-4 pickup
What if, instead of making the game worse, they made the game better?
>>183001667
ifyouplaysydneyorcloveryouhaveliterallynorighttocomplainaboutjimmy
Does the Arbiter start sucking dick at DW or am I missing something?
It's fantastic at lower difficulties and still shreds normal enemies en masse on DW, though I'm having survivability troubles.
>>183004161
Arbiter was always shit, China or bust
>>183004262
>China "range shorter than my dick" Puff
>>183004262
I'm used to the China anyway but having long-range bombs and a more efficient ammo reload is extremely appealing. The difference between 1400 and 700 damage doesn't seem to be relevant for non-Specials, too.
>>183004161
No it's pretty good. Good range and high mag size and nice reload. Don't expect to kill anything with it but it's nice for bombing large groups
>>183004598
Only people with shit computers have bad range with GL’s
>>183005227
>Overkill can't even program a fucking parabola correctly
How do you feel about the Judge shotgun?
>>183009250
best gun in the game
>>183009250
Good conceal and damage, great shotgun
>>183009250
fuck brazil
Taking bets that OyVeyShill will go full kike for the Jewtubers and pretty much force you to buy them by including a perk deck better than Burglar.
SAFE WHEN
So converts are the way to go to survive higher difficulties in PD2?
>>183013949
Converts are pretty much essential on OD
grinder or rogue?
>>183014247
rogue unless you want to die instantly in od
Rogue or Anarchist?
>>183014495
>anarchist
>>183014495
anarchist suit w/ sneaky bastard
Ex-President or Maniac?
>>182995978
At least you were avenged.
>>183015359
You may as well use crew chief if you're considering either of those
Rogue or Crook?
Gambler or Hitman?
Crew Chief or Biker?
>>182952724
>crutch song
?
>game uses Continental Coins as currency
So what the fuck, is this just a John Wick game then?
>>183020198
That's overkill long game, get as much john wick stuff as possible into their game so they can use later whenever they want it claiming it's part of the main experience or some shit
>>183020543
Are there any games with hand-to-hand combat as satisfying as it is in John Wick?
>>183020138
swan song, part of the infiltrator sub-tree Revenant
how do they convert cops to turn on their squad
>>182536579
>Payday: Crime War
But nobody plays this here.
>>183025395
they would strap a bomb to them but ovk took that out for obvious reasons
>>183025658
that came out?
I picked up payday 2 when Overkill was handing out free copies or whatever they were doing, havent bothered with it until now. Wanted to see if I have the DLC but I can't tell. The store page says I already own Ultimate Edition but my library only shows the soundtracks are available to download
Are all of those DLC packs just already bundled in as updates or did I miss something?
>>183026527
You own the shitters edition
You need to BUY Payday 2 to get all the DLC
>>183025395
Sydney promises them a kiss. ;3
>>183026794
So I just can't buy any of it individually any more? Should I just bother with a DLC unlocker?
>>183026527
tl;dr you have "Payday 2 Ultimate Edition" without owning all the content that makes your edition Ultimate
they made a poor decision in renaming the game's main entry to "Payday 2 Ultimate Edition"
if you got the base game (free or paid) in the past you now own "Payday 2 Ultimate Edition"
if you bought any paid DLC in the past you can still access them
but if you want to get any paid DLC you don't already own at this point, you have to get the "Payday 2 Ultimate Edition" Bundle. the price of the bundle varies depending on how much paid DLC you already own.
>>183027884
considering you took over a month to get around to playing a game you got for FREE* you probably won't be hurting for ingame options with what you have right now
i wouldn't really advise using DLC unlocker because if /pdg/ still links to one in the OP/pastebin it's old or still has outdated instructions. the top search engine results will point you to a bloated cheatmod that happens to include a DLC unlocker as one of the features and going that route will permanently render you a shitter for all eternity
just play the base game for a bit and see if you actually like the game. there's plenty of FREE* content available and the game used to go on sale often enough that there's a very good chance you'll be able to upgrade to the real Ultimate Edition with a discount
holy shit i wasn't wrong about /pdg/'s guide to >cheating being outdated as fuck
the only important lines for DLC unlocker are #4 and #110 the rest of that pastebin needs to get thrown out
>>183029330
Because people here barely cheat anymore
>sokol safe
>only has kalashnikovs
>>183029330
The OP hasn't been updated in over a year.
Is Jiro shit or really shit?
>>183031807
SHIRONAKEEE DAISUKI DESU
Is this the end of /pdg/?
>>183035327
Maybe the real /pdg/ was the coke we stole along the way.
>>183035528
Too bad Jimmy got rid of it.