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/sthg/ -Sonic The Hedgehog General

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Welcome to the Sonic the Hedgehog General. Here we talk about all things Sonic! Share art and music, talk about new developments, discuss ROM hacks, speedrunning, and more.

/sthg/ #820 - Sonic and Pokémon X Edition

>Link Compilation<
http://pastebin.com/J6hTXkhK

>Sonic News<
Sonic Mania vids:
6 Minutes of Gameplay: http://youtu.be/uB9RP2SV8HY
Green Hill Boss : http://youtu.be/X1GZbQgtGLY
Chemical Plant : http://youtu.be/4TX2I3iUORQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52UGIIIp9WE
Pre-order Trailer: http://youtu.be/wvD8NZN9Zsg

Sonic Forces vids:
Sonic Forces Main Theme Lyrics Rvealed - Fist Bump: https://youtu.be/XI97jY3FZ9Q
Sonic Forces E3 trailer: https://youtu.be/dprxYd_16Ck
7 minutes of Gameplay: http://youtu.be/fyTzm8WgtlE
Full level Gameplay: http://youtu.be/6g6_rRqjlCI
Avatar Gameplay: http://youtu.be/TJZfptketUc

>Drawfag/Writefag Idea Walls<
http://pastebin.com/j8KkPQ4n
http://pastebin.com/jNKKMk5b

>General Interest Links<
/sthg/ - Level Development Kit:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bw9wQojS0lxpbXpxRWZiOFNWSHM/view

Birthday Bash Zone
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bw9wQojS0lxpamZnSzItcURDUFE/view?usp=sharing

Sonic Time Twisted
https://overboundstudio.com/index.php?action=game_page&id=1

Bump in Sonic 1 v0.1 + Source Code
http://www55.zippyshare.com/v/x5kpc8IZ/file.html
http://www10.zippyshare.com/v/Vh05gC9s/file.html

Green Hill Paradise Act 2
https://mega.nz/#!bdtByBRB!QENQpUU2fzjYSs79s0Y0lR5Zx1Tt5CI6v3f-buPsUo4

Sonic Boom Seasons 1 & 2 can be watched here:
http://www.toonova.com/sonic-boom
http://www.toonova.com/sonic-boom-season-2

Previous thread: >>182279314
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Second for Sticks!
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>>182371418
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/11518009/1/Sonic-The-Pokemon-Trainer
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Why do so many fangames use the super peel out yet Sega never touched the thing again?
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Have some Beta Perci on me.

whoa
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>>182372284
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Concept art for the weapons in the game.

Wait there were weapons in the final game?
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>>182372346
What a cutie pie from the get-go.

I like B and D better because C and current reminds me of a more Echidna look and A reminds me of another character outside the Sonic series.

Where are you getting these, anon?
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In what order did the teams arrive at the Egg Fleet and defeat the Egg Emperor?
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>>182372606
>big red button
that kind of stuff isn't cute when you're reputation is in the shitter

>>182372346
final outcome is the best. it is funny how perci ended up as generic background character in the tv show, they even established a twin so they could ctr v her model.
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>>182372774
I've been trying to find the source but so far I've found these on twitter.

Also here's an Amy Art.
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>>182372828
Rose, Sonic, Dark, then Chaotix.
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>>182372958
>Eyelids

???????????
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>>182372958
>tan legs
It's just a human with a big head
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Now for some Sticks art with some Development Notes.
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>>182372978
I always imagined Team Dark ended up everywhere last because there's probably a TRAIL of destruction following behind everything Omega did.

He'd probably destroy every part of rail canyon on their way through it.
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>>182373437
Metal Sonic, I'm surprised to say had some very small but visible "redesigns" during development.
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>>182373437
Sticks has a really fucking solid design, I must say.
It's time consuming to draw but pretty rewarding. I do hope she sticks around after boom's gone.
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>>182372332
I guess because the animation for it looks cool. That's literally the only thing going for when compared to the spindash.
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>>182371418
I'm glad someone else baked. All my OPs are cursed.
The last one hit the archive at 400.
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>>182372346
>thought her name and look was a clever pun
>nope, she'd a bandicoot instead
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Now the Knuckles design from last thread.

But I also found the source for these concepts.
A BRB style guide composed of artwork from RoL's development.

https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0BzzNv4U8hz0fa3U4d3JjSzQ1Yzg&export=download

Can also be found here:
http://www.sonicparadise.net/2017/07/de-project-apollo-sonic-boom-su.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
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>>182362908
Well, I prefer the randomized change, normally because I was always worn out over seeing the same victory poses on Unleashed and (especially) Generations, since I'm able to get S ranks most of the times. I think it will be atleast refreshing to see both Sonics reacting differently while not needing to restrict yourself to try getting a lower rank.

>>182374056
Don't worry about it. The thread you're talking about only got archived early because some kind of furry gay guy named Bui came in on /vg/ (and on /v/ and /vr/) and used its botnet to create various threads on the catalog in order to make the others legit generals get archived faster. I heard the reason of this was because on /vp/, he got mad when some drawfag recused to draw his lewd request.
Your threads are not "cursed". It's just we're struggling to find things to discuss thanks to the lack of news and lack of new comics. It's not your fault, so stay calm, buddy.
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>>182375539
Each of the 4 characters also has a small section too.

Just posting this one because the example they used just made me crack up for some reason.
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>>182357565
Time for a bump. Who's up for more Fleetway Sonic and Knuckles?

You know, I think it was always intuitie that the Master Emerald provided some kind of energy Rootnik used to launch the Death Egg, but this is never really elaborated on is it?
We have entirely expected obvious foreshadowing here and of course Kitching is roping Lava Reef to lie beneath the Launch Base Zone since the Death Egg hasn't launched from there and fallen into a volcano in this storyline.
No-one ever said writing franchises was easy.
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>>182375852
>/vr/ too
God damn, that's dedicating.
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>>182374056
This OP was in memory of yesterday's incident. Fuck Pokemon.
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>>182375874
Just for the hell of it, Sonic's designs seen in the style guide.

3A is giving me DIC Sonic vibes for some reason tho
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>>182375539
Why did they remove the clothing at the waist? It looks kind of cool.
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>>182375874
No wonder, it reminded me of something familiar.
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>>182376281
Sonic 2.0 is the best in my opinion.
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>>182376305
I liked that too. I don't know why they did that though.

>>182376281
On an unrelated note, Cliff was at one point going to be more of an Inventor character.
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>>182376610
I can't believe Sonic Boom makes Iizuka and Sonic Team look sane.
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>>182376610
Oh, I remember when there was this theory in which he was supposed to be Tails' dad. As stupid as it sounds, it's still better than Random NPC #7.
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>>182376610
I don't like the feedback Iizuka gave. Why not have a wildcard inventor to spice up the rivalry between Tails and Eggman?
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>>182372606
Yea there were weapons in the final game, completely out of place though.

>>182372958
I'm glad that was shot down, could you imagine having both Sonic's tan arms & Amy's tan legs?

>>182373437
I find it hilarious that they were aware of how much Sticks doesn't mesh well with the rest of the cast design wise and redesigned accordingly but ultimately still sticks out like a sore thumb against the rest of the cast even with their boom alterations. All they had to do was simplify her clothing, lesson / flat out remove her secondary colours and remove whatever moronic thing she has going on with her ears and it would of been fine.

>>182373710
Any attempt to have thin upper limbs / thick lower limbs that flow into the hands / feet on a robot will always read as MegaMan, no exceptions. All that effort to basically have his mainline design with a few barely noticeable changes seems like a massive waste.

>>182375874
That was absolutely the wrong way to go about it and I'm glad they were stopped early on, this is exactly why those beta trailers look so wrong.

>>182376281
>Separate eyes on Sonic the Hedgehog
>AVGN_What_were_they_thinking.gif

>>182376610
A extremely rare time I actually agree with Izuka on something.
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>>182376809
No clue. My guess is...."status quo"?

But now, just for you guys, artwork of one of the random female villagers that never showed up in the final game.

Oh come on, you KNOW somebody here is going to draw her at some point
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>>182376281
Boom Sonic's design is such trash.
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>>182377061
>spoiler
I can only hope. She's cute.
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>>182372958
She looks like a hooker. A hedgehooker.
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>>182377061
Come to think of it, each hub, (all 2 of them) was supposed to have their own set of NPCs aside from the ones seen in-game
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>>182376610

>Iizuka-san feedback: The only inventors in this world should be Tails and Eggman.

what about the other world tho, iizuka
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REMOVE ROGER CRAIG SMITH
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>>182376281
Legacy Sonic is so good.
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>>182373437
That purse is cute, just like Sticks. Stupid designers don't know about fashion
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>>182377378
What is this "two worlds" stuff? It's some bullshit Izuka said, right?
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>>182377361
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>>182377378
Sonic Boom is only one world.
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>>182376281
Modern Sonic's design is so perfect. There's absolutely no reason to change it the way they did.
Boom Sonic is down there with the Michael Bay TMNT designs.
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>>182373787
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>>182377534
Yup. There was an interview.
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>>182377590
Oh god. What did he say exactly?
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>>182377548
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>>182375539
It's like they basicall ignored Sonic Team here.
>>182376281
The arm sickness became progressively worse.
>>182375915
This issue begins the five part Fleetway take on the S&K storyline. One clear difference here as a consequence of Fleetway's take on Super sonic is that the ending is obviously going to be fairly different here. Nevertheless, there will be awesome. And Chaotix for afters.
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>>182377757
So, do you guys remember those big ass "sentinels" seen at the end of the game during Lyric's boss fight?

You were originally going to have to fight one (or possibly more) of them.
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>>182377672
There are two worlds, more like planets: the human world of Sonic Adventure 1 & 2, Sonic Battle, Shadow the Hedgehog, Sonic 06, and Sonic Unleashed; and Sonic's world, featured in every other game. I've heard it's like Stargate, but don't quote me on that. This was presumably done to explain why the 'weirder' settings of most Sonic games aren't featured in the "human" games. Perhaps because Sega doesn't feel that humans mix with futuristic cities and other stuff.
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what happened that removed all these unique NPC's.
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>>182377946
A Shadow of the Colossus-style boss would have been awesome.
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>>182377946
that makes sense
and now get it in forces with the death egg robots
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>>182378104
Sounds like he binge-watched Sonic X on crack and thought "hey, that's a good idea for the lore!".
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>>182378242
Well, we don't know when the two worlds idea came about. It could have been during/before Sonic X was conceptualized.
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>>182378242
>>182378296
Two worlds was a thing in the OVA too.
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>>182378296
If it was shown properly in the games, I wouldn't be as irked as I am right now. But I expected far worse to be honest.
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>>182377826
Fleetway's take on the Eggrobos succeeded far more in emphasising the egg shape than the original game sprites. What a pity the entire "egg" meme blew right past me at the time and I thought making them look like eggs was silly.
Knowing stuff was hard before the internet guys.
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New RPG when?
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http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sq16cr

>"There are no good sonic games"

>Now you fucked up. Go play Sonic 3 right now and realize the error of your ways.

Based Dunkey
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>>182378564
Not really. The Land of the Sky and the Land of Darkness are two layers of the planet, with the Land of the Sky being the surface layer. It was only mistranslated as "dimensions" in the dub.
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>>182378645
same, if it was in the early games or even introduced in adventure I'll probably be fine. now it's 20 years in.

it's going to raise more questions.
Which game is set in which world? what events are carried over?

It sounds like we'll have to use sonic X as reference, which doesn't sit right with me.
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>>182378785
The Land of the Sky isn't really the "surface", but what I meant is that it's the higher layer compared to the Land of the Darkness, which seems to be the actual surface of the planet.
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>>182377946
The rest of the RoL style guide is dedicated to props, environments and level designs.

Though I figured I'd show off the Biplane Redesign just for the fucking faces Sonic and Tails are making in the art
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>>182378981
Human world:

Sonic Adventure
Sonic Adventure 2
Sonic Battle
Shadow the Hedgehog
Sonic the Hedgehog (2006)
Sonic Unleashed

Sonic's world:

Sonic the Hedgehog (1991)
Sonic the Hedgehog 2
Sonic the Hedgehog CD
Sonic the Hedgehog 3 & Knuckles
Sonic Advance
Sonic Advance 2
Sonic Heroes
Sonic Advance 3
Sonic Rush
Sonic Riders
Sonic Rivals
Sonic Rivals 2
Sonic Riders: Zero Gravity
Sonic Free Riders
Sonic Colors
Sonic Lost World
Sonic Mania

What do you mean by carried over?
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>>182379003
"Unlike Sonic I don't chuckle"
Knuckles was right after all.
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>>182378664
Knuckles actually using his noggin was another character element/potentiality which got lost sometime around 13 or so years ago.
He's just a totally different kind of character, in early headcanon, here in Fleetway, and in the Sonic Adventures especially. God damn it I want my Knuckles back.
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>>182379227
The human book it's actually the Storybook world.
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>>182379369
If you're talking about the Storybook games, then I didn't include those, since Sonic's in a completely different dimension for most of those games. Same thing with Shuffle, Rush Adventure, and Generations.
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>>182379227
for example I was thinking about eggmans backstory but sonic x does provide an explanation.

not to mention characters like shadow the heghehog, does that mean he crosses over the worlds in between games? does that mean that Big, Rouge and Cream do as well, they must.

GUN was in sonic rush and SA2, so each world as a GUN?

there are probably more examples I can't think of without going through a wiki.
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>>182379506
Yeah, I'm actually on the phone right now because I'm a lazy fuck, so the corrector did his work without me noticing.
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>>182379775
It's not like Sonic X where the two worlds don't know each other. It's common travel. G.U.N. has bases in both worlds, just as characters like Shadow and Eggman can go between them. Eggman wasn't shoved into Sonic's world inexplicably at a young age like in Sonic X; he's just a dick who wants to conquer shit.
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All this concept art for Boom asides the main cast is pretty decent, it's a shame just how badly BRB fucked up in execution.
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>>182379978
Wait, I'm Sonic X they actually told that Eggman came into Sonic's world as a child? Also, how do we explain the presence of the Chaos Emeralds and the Master Emerald in both worlds?
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>>182379978
>common travel
>bases in both worlds
>characters can go between them
This seems like a solution to a problem that only exisits because you didn't go with the solution from the get go. Why separate the worlds, and then try to connect them anyways? For what purpose does Iizuka not commit to what he's saying.
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>>182380210
Yeah, Sonic X kind of asspulled why Eggman was in Sonic's world. You can even see his confusion in that one comic picture where he's confused about dollars. As for the Chaos Emeralds and the Master Emerald, you got me. It's probably something to do with the Emeralds' energy. It's not a stellar explanation, but it'll do.
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>>182379978
ok, angel island. is their two? does that travel too?

I'm just thinking this two worlds thing isn't a good idea.I was fine with most games taking place on the same planet. it was like a comic book world where there are realistic places like new york and more fantastical places like a prehistoric jungle in the arctic.
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>>182379265
egg robos must have a low melting point
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>>182380527
It travels between the two. I don't know how (probably energy from the Master Emerald), but it does.
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>>182380527
There's literally no in-game evidence for this two-worlds bullshit, so until Iizuka doubles down on it, its easy to ignore his nonsense.
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>>182380623
That is to say that there are two worlds, not two Angel Islands.
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>>182380717
Voodoo shark at its finest. You can smell its purity.
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>>182381636

what a silly edit
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>>182381636
It's Coldsteel
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>>182381636
>Silver is still wearing a dress

kek
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>>182381636
I like Silver
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>>182379978
This. It's not that hard of an idea to grasp. Plus it helps reconcile the idea of the crazier unrealistic places like Green Hill and Marble Garden with the realism of Station Square, as well as the Sonic's Worldians and people. It makes the most sense
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>>182382109
What about the Chaos Emeralds?
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>>182382342
What about them?
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>>182382418
Are they one set in each world? Or just one set scattered in both worlds? And the same can be asked about the M.E.
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>>182382537
One set scattered in both worlds. There is only one Master Emerald.
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>>182382554
Go away, AnimatedJames.
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>>182382554
I have seen the face of god.
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>>182382616
If you aren't Izuka, how can I take this phrase as fact?
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>>182378121
The WiiU.
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>>182382554
Oh, so this will be in my feed now. Great.
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>>182382837
Then why did you ask?
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>>182382554
Just...why?
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>>182383000
You said that Izuka's statement was valid, so it was logical that you must had some sort of solid explanation behind your approval of the two worlds theory. Which you don't have.
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>>182382554

Meh. I've seen worse.
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>>182383149
It's just common sense.
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>>182383275
If you say so, Izuka.
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>>182380534
Or they... hard-boil!
>>182379265
Royal Family uh-oh. I'm going to put this down to Britism rather than SatAM rip-offery
Compared to the actual games plot, Hidden Palace is coming off as a bit anti-climactic here, probably as a consequence of the incongruities between the existing Fleetway canon and the various setups required. I'm curious as to how Archie covered/characterised its Sonic 3K plotlines. Anyone give a quick rundown?

You can see they were paying attention though. The in game Hidden Palace mural is partially obscured here in the second panel.

It kind of surprises me in retrospect that Kitching didn't capitalise more on his original Temple of Chaos/ 12 Emeralds combining storyline here. Instead the Master Emerald is introduced without exploration in this very issue, the Temple of Chaos is switched to the Emerald Chamber/Hidden Palace without clarification, and the super emeralds are drawn as, admittedly with some explanation, but aren't called as such, and the role of the grey emerald is just replaced with the (green) Master Emerald begging all kinds of questions. You can actually just make out that Elson has drawn the grey Super emerald in the third panel.

It feels like Kitching regarded his previous storyline as a failure and is quickly brushing it aside, a great pity as there was a lot of potential to explain things like the Super Emeralds and explore the Master emerald more. Things seem pretty rushed here in retrospect now that I reread it. Maybe Elson's adding of these visual elements represents an editorial ambivalence around all this.

Any other Fleetway readers care to jump in here? I'm lonely.
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>>182383468
KUNAI WITH CHAIN!
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>>182383468
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>>182383681
Why hasn't Sega ever done business with Sonic? They make chili dogs. It's perfect.
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>>182383581
kek
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>>182383681
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>>182383379
Elson actually starts experimenting with AoStH Robotnik's expressions a lot more in this series.
Actually character expressions in general come to think of it.
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>>182383468
>>182383642
because FUCK backgrounds
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>>182371202
How exactly does Elise look alien-like? Elaborate
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>>182383379
since the island was now public knowledge, i guess knux wanted to pop the emeralds someplace a little more secure underground rather than out in the open?
Later stories make the emerald chamber a very cool-looking place.
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>>182384370
Long neck and a balloon head.
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>>182384320
his overconfidence was his weakness
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>>182384320
Can't wait to see how badly he's going to be defeated.
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>play Bump in Sonic 1
>get stuck in Scrap Brain
h-help
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>>182384361
With that lack of artistic competence she has going on she could've been an artist for the comic
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>>182384839
haven't played the Bump mod, so I dunno how she controls exactly, but where ya getting stuck?
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>>182383468
Who the fuck is that grandma?
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>>182377404
I support your cause.
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>>182384982
Mama Robotnik
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>>182384970
When I first entered Scrap Brain, I started off at the third act for whatever reason. Then afterward, I go through the first and then the second acts, complete them, go back to the third act, complete it, and go back to the first act instead of the Final Zone.

Bump is like Sonic, but can bump. Basically the Fire Shield from 3&K.
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>>182384839
>>182384970
Where can I see this bump mod?
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>>182385362
It's in the OP.
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He found it, that damn fourth chaos emerald.
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>>182381636
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>>182386285
God, Yardley's early art has not aged well at all.
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>>182386285
*teleports behind you*
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>>182381636
You can tell this is fan-edited.
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>>182386285
>"Fine! I'll take you on with or without my--!"
bra
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>>182385980
Now throw it away.
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Alright boys, this poll has probably been done a million times, but I never see it, what is your personal favourite Sonic game that was on the Genesis/Mega Drive?

http://www.strawpoll.me/13412613

If your favourtie is mean bean machine just say so here, but I'm not expecting any many
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Shadow is cool! I wish he was the main character.
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>>182387210
Not sure whether to vote for 2 or 3 so I voted for Knuckles Chaotix
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Good night, /sthg/.
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>>182387654
Night, anon.
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>>182387447
Knuckles chaotix is a little rough around the edges, but there worse old Sonic games out there
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>>182386285
Who could Amy canonically win against?
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>>182387210
>These results
Why even make the poll? To see who takes second place?
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>>182388018
Cream (no Cheese)
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>>182388040
Yes
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>>182384425
It just seems a bit rushed. The earlier Death Egg launch simulation now feels like some attempt to reference the Death Egg's actual failed launch at the end of Sonic 3. It just feels like there are missed opportunities here.
At the time this all blew right by me. I just thought the artwork was awesome.
>>182384596 >>182384737
You wouldn't believe about how this resolves me if I told you.
>>182384320
If only they'd gotten here a moment sooner!
Believe it or not (and correct me if I'm wrong), this is the very first appearance of the Master Emerald proper in StC. Again, I think the comic is relying heavily on familiarity with the game here.

This is also the first (complete) appearance of Mecha Sonic, who is called Metallix in Fleetway canon for reasons that will become awesome.
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>>182388018
Omochao?
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>>182387654
wait don't go yet. I need to tell you something
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>>182388173
>Super Metal
oh shit son!
Sonic & Knux are really fucked now!
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>>182388018
>We will never get a Sonic Battle Successor
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>>182384882
>she
could you not
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>>182388498
>Literally all of Dan's complaints are solved by the HD version
>He will never know this because of Arin's decision to play the shitty, boring Wii version.
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>>182387210
Amy is in Sonic Mania. Just look how well she fits in with the rest of the Classic cast.
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>>182388772
Not what? The artist is a girl, and not one of those freaks who dresses in women's clothing and calls themselves women
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>>182388803
>Arin is a fun-ruining retard who places his massive personal bias against games that aren't Mega Man X over rational thought
Oh shit, I need to go check if water's still wet!
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>>182388835
I hope she is, but I do doubt it, maybe in a PC Mod or an eventual sequel.
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>>182388835
She wants to be, even if it's a cameo.
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>>182388018
ZERO
Cream
Eggman
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>>182388498
Why do keep posting these?
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>>182388962
Just don't ask Sonic to do it. He's scared.
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>>182388569
>>182388803
I want to beat Arin with a bat covered in rusty nails.
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>>182389168
*you
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>>182388018
In Sonic's world eh I don't know.

In anyone other gameworld I pretty sure she beat Princess Peach in a fight.
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>>182389379
I'd pay good cash to see an Amy x Peach fight.
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>>182387824
Is there a Sonic game more soulless than Sonic Blast?
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>>182388369
erm actually... never mind...
Here, have a fresh reaction image
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>>182389018
PROOF that Shadow and Silver are just RECOLORS of Sonic.
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>>182389760
Shut up, Amy.
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>>182381636
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>>182389379
Think she could take on Rogue? Any of the Chaotix? Tails? Metal Sonic?
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>>182381636
>>182389927
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>>182387654
See you tomorrow.
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>>182390130
best edit
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>>182384839
Bump your way out of it.
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>>182371476
That's actual Shadow right?
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>>182390016
>Rouge
No

>Chaotix
Maybe

>Tails
No

>Metal Sonic
No
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>>182377361
>>182377548
They look so same-y. Plus it looks like it was the same trope for every set (medium height fat, thin and tall, etc.)
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>>182387210
I voted for Sonic CD.

If not CD:
Best: Sonic 3 & Knuckles
Favorite: Sonic Spinball

Feels terrible to realize that you love the Sonic Pinball mechanics and that you'll never experience it ever again because it's a Sonic concept and a discarded concept. Even if a Sonic Spinball 2 would be announced, it wouldn't have that way past cool 90s feeling.
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>>182376281
This only makes me like Modern more.

Also it seems like BRB originated the term "legacy" sonic. It only makes me hate them more.
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>>182373437
They didn't really like the metal thing in her shoe.

What does "lemonade" feedback mean?
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>>182390436
I have tried.
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>>182371418
>>Sonic News<
We need new news.
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>>182391360
Probably means Sonic Team's feedback was considered a pain in the ass, so they did the best they could with what Sonic Team wanted. When Iizuka gives you lemons, make lemonade.
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>>182391643
Friendly reminder that Forces literally only has ONE modern level in the entire game.
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>>182391792
I need a list of levels
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>>182391930
>Classic
Green Hill

>Modern
City Heights

>Avatar
Green Hill
Park Avenue
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>>182392068
Short game m8. Do we have to replay the levels 4 times?
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>>182388498
>First two minutes of the video are them talking about some random thing that has nothing to do with the game
If they don't give a shit, why should we?
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>>182392232
Don't worry m8, you'll unlock Chemical Plant for classic after you beat the game once.
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>>182390016
Everyone could beat up Tails, even Cream.
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>>182389168
Cause /sthg/'s favorite youtubers are playing the best sonic game ever.
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Sonic's eye color permanently changed to green because of the intensity of Super/Hyper form in the Doomsday Zone.

The Chaos Emeralds permanently changed shape into the ones we know today because of their metamorphosis into Super Emeralds.

This is my headcanon don't argue against it.
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>>182393358
>The Chaos Emeralds permanently changed shape into the ones we know today because of their metamorphosis into Super Emeralds.
Thank god I'm not the only one with this headcanon.
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>>182393358
Or maybe it's because the series went in a new artistic direction with a new artist and a new interpretation of the characters.

Christ, they should never have "explained" Sonic getting green eyes in the comics. It should've just been a change like it was like that all along. It's almost as bad as explaining the difference between Mega Man X and Mega Man Zero as "Oh, they redesigned their bodies to look more humanoid."
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>>182393637
What was the explanation in the comics?
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>>182393637
it's because he spent too long in Green Hill duh
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>>182393358
>headcanon
Why is this a thing? Aren't we a little old to be making shit up? It's just lazy fanfic.
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>>182393808
In StC it's because of Sonic's exposure to Chaos in the SA1 adaptation.

In Archie it was because of something so convoluted and stupid I couldn't summarize it if I tried.
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>>182393808
Pre-reboot, Robotnik has orbiting satellites that are somehow fucking up time, so Sonic grabs a Super Emerald and runs around the world, turning into like three or four elemental super forms that are never seen again, in order to stop it. This turns his eyes green. And gives his shoes buckles for some reason.
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>>182394050
>Elemental Super Forms
I want to see this. Got pics?
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>>182393637
Aren't characters in Legends suppose to be a fusion between man and machine?
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is /sthg/ the only thing on 4chan you browse? everything else is fucking cancer tbqh
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>>182394174
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>>182394350
That's ZX. In Legends man is extinct.
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>>182394352
I also post on /pol/ and /int/ and /v/.
Sometimes [s4s] if im extremely bored.
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>>182394352
I go to /v/ on occasion and, when the time is right, I'll be heading to /ink/ pretty soon.
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>>182394174
>>182394373
Not gonna lie, the idea of elemental forms isn't by itself stupid, but the execution was half-assed and aside from Super and Ultra they never showed up again.
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>>182394464
I mean man becoming extinct because they fused with machines.
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>>182388803
Dan doesn't give a shit about video games. Stop giving them views.

>>182389281
See a therapist
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>>182394524
Now I must ask. Which writer wrote this one?
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>>182393927
Headcanon is merely assumptions. Why is that a childish thing?
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>>182393927
This. Having headcanons and fanfics is a sign of complete unoriginality and immaturity. If you want to write about something, make something that's truly your own instead of mooching off of something pre-established.
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>>182394352
On /vg/ I go to vitagen, eagg, pso2g, and other boards I go to are /pol/, /an/, /o/, /ck/, /fit/, /r9k/. Once in a blue moon I'll go to /tv/ or /sci/.
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>>182394352
Sometimes I go on /vr/ and occasionally forget that I hate /co/ and look at a few threads there, which proceed to remind me why I hate /co/.
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>>182394352
Yes. I used to go to /a/ all the time but I'm so out of touch with all the popular shows and their shitty sense of humor that I don't even care anymore.
Everywhere else just makes me instantly angry, at least /sthg/ appreciates art and has some drawfags so you guys make me practice and do something constructive.
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>>182394709
Because you're projecting your shit onto something you don't own and calling it your own
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>>182394709
It's just fancier way to say fanfiction.
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>>182394508
/pol/ is the only other place I go on occasion.
Shitpost about hedgehogs and get angry about politics is all 4chan offers me anymore.
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>>182394352
Yes. I used to go on /fit/ but it never was good and I have no patience left. Most places are infected by the /pol/ cancer.
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>>182394352
I mostly stick to here, /co/, and /vp/ when I want to remind myself that though I may be bad at comp, there's people that are far, far worse. I also go to /v/ solely for RoR threads, then get salty because I get fucked every run
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>>182394352
Pretty much, I used to browse a much worse general a few years ago and sometimes I'm tempted to go back but I already know it's far fucking worse. I occasionally look at other boards but nothing too extensive.
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>>182394529
They're not fused with machines, they're synthesized humans.
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>>182394956
Original fiction.
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>>182395085
>Worse general
Which one. I used to browse /dng/, /jrpgg/ or whatever the JRPG gen was, /fpg/, and /ksg/'
>>182395096
Making shit up about pre-established characters isn't original.
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>>182394885
>>182394956
>having a idea about how or why something occurs in a series is fanfiction
I don't think you know what headcanon is. You would be right if it was something stupid like, "Tails is totally gay for Sonic!", but saying that the Chaos Emeralds look like they do now might be because of their transformation in S3&K is fanfiction is ridiculous.
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>>182394735
The same concept applies to OCs.
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Good game or best game?
http://www.strawpoll.me/13413255
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>>182394352
I go on /skg/, /pg/, /co/, and sometimes /v/. Rarely I go on /vp/ for new Pokemon news.
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>>182394352
Not really. I'm usually also browsing /dlg/ and /trash/, sometimes browsing /v/ for /ctt/ and /a/ for new reading material. On rare occasions I'll hop in /co/ to remind myself how terrible things have gotten.
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>>182394693
I'll give you one guess.
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>>182394693
Bollers.

I mean, as someone who actually got this comic and read it when it first came out when I was like 10 years old, it was kinda cool. It's just looking back in hindsight it was an obvious "shit, we actually have to make this stupid continuity line up with the games somehow" thrown-together thing with missed potential.

Random trivia while I'm scanning this issue: the Iron Queen was originally supposed to be a badger, not a human.
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>>182395203
Worse, not one of the worst but nepgen.
I even contributed a lot there I'd think before shit happened irl. Used to browse /skg/ but that got annoying quick.
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>>182395018
As if there was a time when 4chan wasn't racist.
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>>182395387
2 was better
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>>182395328
It is. It's making shit up and claiming that it has some degree of merit. It's as cancerous as fanfiction. The ONLY word or canon that anyone should care about is from the people in charge of the franchise.
>>182395352
OCs are even worse. In fact OCs are the embodiment of unoriginality. If you wanna make "Original characters", make your own franchise and do it there
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>>182395461
There was a time where it was just edgy and didn't fuse with the leejun and redpilling spam
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>>182395203
>/dng/
I keep meaning to go back and see how bad the bitching over Links has been.
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>>182394352
/sthg/ is my main general but I lurk others.
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>>182394595
>See a therapist
No. Some people just deserve to die in horrific, painful ways. Arin is one of those people.
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>>182395328
That's extrapolation and postulation based on things we already know, which I would not classify as head canon unless you for some reason demand it's true without confirmation.
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I have an uncontrollable lust for Blaze the Cat
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>>182395461
There was a time when calling everyone nigger and blaming things on the jews was done mostly out of facetiousness. Now it's preached like the gospel by the world's most obnoxious evangelists.
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>>182395507
>It's making shit up and claiming that it has some degree of merit.
It's just something that I believe in, and no one else has to. I never claimed it was real, I don't know about the original poster of that though.

>The ONLY word or canon that anyone should care about is from the people in charge of the franchise.
Ok, so NO ONE can interpret anything differently from what the developers say. You sound like a spoon-feed drone.
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>>182395941
>Ok, so NO ONE can interpret anything differently from what the developers say
Correct, because otherwise we get Sonar the Hedgefox, do not steal in fic where Shadow does drugs or some shit
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>>182395941
You haven't recognized this by now?
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>>182395507
The people in charge fucking suck. Mania wouldn't exist if we didn't have free thinkers.
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>>182395892
Same
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>>182395995
>>182396014
>>>/pol/
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>>182396053
And you can do better? No you can't, so piss off
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>>182394352
Yes, I only come here.
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>>182395995
Good lord, you sound like a 2nd grader. Interpretation is different than fan fiction, as it takes information from the actual canon, and uses it to fill in gaps, such as Sonic's green eyes, or something else. Fan fiction usually keeps itself from the actual canon itself. I've never actually heard of someone making fan fiction and claim it was canon, as that would be against the point of fan fiction to begin with.

>>182396128
>le /pol/ boogyman
Way to ruin a point.
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>>182396128
I was referring to the bait. This shit pops up often, just like the 'artists need a real job' shit.
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>>182396345
>Interpretation is different than fan fiction, as it takes information from the actual canon, and uses it to fill in gaps, such as Sonic's green eyes, or something else.
And it's always shitty and unneeded. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. Not everthing needs to be explained. You're the kind of motherfucker who thought midichlorians were a good idea
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>>182396186
>you can't critique people without being an expert on what they do
Heh, hate your government? Why don't you become a politician?
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>>182396485
I can't hate my government, because I know I can't do better than they can, and I don't understand the intricacies of it
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>>182396438
>And it's always shitty and unneeded.
>Interpretation is always shitty and unneeded
Apparently you live in a world where everything is taken by face value. Of course Sonic isn't "lol so deep", but, to you, saying little things like the Emeralds look different MIGHT be because S3&K is a crime.
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>>182396053
And it stars canon characters not some bullshit OC.
>>182395941
Interpretation stops where you leave the realm of possibility for the series. Wondering about a possible scenario based on information we're given is different than coming up with some made up childish fanfic tier scenario that you know you'll be laughed at for so you brush it off as head canon.
>I'm too lazy to write a fanfic about this silly thing I made up.
In my head canon Sonic browses retarded forums and laughs at how autistic his fans are, oh wait that's actual canon in Sonic Boom.
OCs, fanfic, head canon, furry porn, this is the kind of retarded shit that gives Sonic a bad name.
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>>182396972
if i take his gloves off, will he die?
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>>182396438
>>182396838
>Not everthing needs to be explained.
Never said that they did. I don't expect the developers to fill in some convoluted explanation about Sonic's eye color. People can have ideas. YOU are the one making it a big deal.

>You're the kind of motherfucker who thought midichlorians were a good idea
>he watches star wars
Fucking plebeian.
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>>182396345
>Interpretation is different than fan fiction, as it takes information from the actual canon, and uses it to fill in gaps
You thinking it's semi-believable doesn't change the fact that it's made up.
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>>182396972
I fucking love Sonic Heroes.
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guys stop being autistic
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>>182397185
BLAST AWAAAAY
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>>182397173
And that makes it bad. Basically see >>182396885 except even trying to make shit up about scenarios is cancerous and a sign of laziness. The fanbase would be so much better if A: people adhered to what was present in the games. No OCs, no headcanons, none of that. Everything is at face value
B: No fanfics. The only people that should write for Sonic are the creators
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>>182397260
but i dont like change!
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>>182377404
As long this will bring back Jason, I support it too.

>>182372332
I think it's always included on fangames to not make Sonic look useless compared to Tails and Knuckles, where the Super Peel-Out is regarded as main ability for Sonic, like how Tails and Knuckles has their flying and gliding abilites too, respectively.
Even if Super Peel-Out and Spindash have the same mechanics, it's just something mandatory most creators of fangames have to follow for various reasons.

>>182394352
No. I also browse around 3 to 4 boards, and on /vg/, a little quantity of generals I visit where I only lurk there save for 1 or 2 generals.

>>182397593
It's alright here. I never thought how fun it is to time attack Rush, even if I suck on it. Meanwhile, I still keep in the mind to read the comics, but I need to get over my laziness first.
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>>182397905
Oh yeah. I used to practice the first level pretty intensely back when it first came out. Looking back on my time I have no idea how I did it and can come nowhere close to it now.
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>>182397593
I'm depressed but I'm also playing FFI for /ffg/, so I got that going for me, which is nice.
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>>182397905
>Sonic look useless compared to Tails and Knuckles
The insta-shield fills that spot nicely. Unfortunately it isn't used much. But I guess we have the drop dash now.
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>>182397376
Anon that's literally autistic.
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>>182397376
Ok but you have to tell that to every fandom ever too. This brand of autism isn't exclusive to Sonic's fandom.
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>>182398275
Oh that goes without saying. It's ruining fiction. Why can't people just appreciate what they're given and leave it at that? Just say "Oh I liked this" or "I didn't like this" and leave it at that
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>>182397376
heh
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>>182396885
>Interpretation stops where you leave the realm of possibility for the series.
How is the Emeralds changing shape somehow out of the realm of possibility? They already did in S3&K, I'm merely suggesting they stayed that way for the rest of the series. How is Sonic's eyes changing to green out of the realm of possibility? He's a fucking blue hedgehog who can turn super saiyan. You are mashing relatively small assumptions with faggot porno because it's a strawman that helps your "argument".

>In my head canon Sonic browses retarded forums and laughs at how autistic his fans are
Pretty fucking ironic, because you are a prime example of autism. Someone gives an idea about how something as insignificant as Sonic's eye color change happened and you have a temper tantrum. Evaluate yourself.
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>>182398087
I'm sorry you're feeling down. How about you give me something to do in the engine with this Spline track and I'll make a webm of me running it for you? Just draw a line in Paint, or something and I'll make it. Or you could just give it a try yourself. Putting my brain to work always cheers me up when I'm down, but that's me. You're you.
Given how frustrating FF1 can be, I'm surprised that that of all things is cheering you up. Good for you.
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>>182397593
Watching the fish play and going through some tutorials soon.
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Classic Sonic and Modern Sonic are two completely different Sonics.
Modern Sonic has always looked the way he has, green eyes and all. He did however, have the same adventures Classic Sonic did in his world.
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>>182398501
>Given how frustrating FF1 can be, I'm surprised that that of all things is cheering you up. Good for you.
It's more of an escape than anything. Mindless grinding takes the edge off.

See if you can lock Sonic to the center of the loops/corkscrews/sideways parts but keep him free for the whole thing.
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>>182398650
>Watching the fish play
I have no context of this, but it sounds cute as hell. Let me know if you need any additional guidance while you're going through tutorials.

>Lock Sonic, but keep him free
Care to elaborate?
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>>182398501
Can you just make like a giant downward slope? I want to see just how fucking fast Sonic can go in that engine.
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>>182398967
What's currently going on in the thread, but nah it's not for the Sonic engine thing, it's Ren'py. On that note though, Sonic's the only thing that can run around your engine, right?
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>>182398439
Throwing around insults doesn't make your fanfic true.
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>>182396885
>Interpretation stops where you leave the realm of possibility for the series. Wondering about a possible scenario based on information we're given is different than coming up with some made up childish fanfic tier scenario that you know you'll be laughed at for so you brush it off as head canon.

Sonic Team does this though. Fuck them.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkmMCjYKvaQ
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>>182398967
Ok look. The part in >>182398501 where the road turns sideways? Make it so Sonic is locked to the center of that portion so he can't fall off (unless he loses speed) but once it ends, unlock him.
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>>182399165
>Throwing around insults doesn't make your fanfic true.
>literally implyed I or anyone else with headcanon was autistic in his post
Also I never claimed it was true in the first place, you sack of shit.
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>>182399275
That first comment from Mike.
That man is a gem.
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>>182399275
>that fucking comment from the official Sonic youtube
Oh shit, it's on.
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>>182399161
Just as I replaced their Classic Sonic model with Lost World Sonic, you could make new characters as well assuming you've learned how Unity handles imported models and animations. Then, if you wanted to make them entirely new characters you'd have to do some coding to give them new skills. For simplicity, you could stop at the model-swapping and just edit the character's physics to change how they play, such as making a Shadow that has a slightly higher jump and faster homing attack, but slower acceleration. Something like that.
>>182399352
I see. Have an extra safety-net for crazier moments in the track. That's what you're getting at? I suppose that's a plausible feature. If there's enough demand for it I'll look into it.
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SONIC THIS ISN'T WEED
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>>182399275
This panel is the epitome of what RedLetter Media was making fun of with The Nerd Crew.
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Amy is a superpowerful magical sorceress wizard witch embodiment of magic and the mystic arts sorcerer supreme. But nobody knows, cause it never really comes up. They just know Amy can do weird stuff, and they don't question it.
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>>182401363
Nice fanfic.
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>>182400832
tails you're my realest friend
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>>182399275
fuck, dude
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Spooky up in here.
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>>182402374
Good, fuck those retards. Youtube's feedback is a much needed reality check for a lot of people.
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>>182402450
Oh silly, the only muscles Knuckles has are in his hands.
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>>182399275
>green hill zone from sonic 2
Is it safe to assume that every faggot that spews the "le sonic was never good" knows nothing about sonic, let alone ever played it?
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>>182399275
>not wanting to have sex with Big the Cat
Faggots.
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>>182399275
Are these people relatives of Arin Hanson?
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>>182402871
just people who suck his dick along with whoever else is popular with teenagers these days
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I hope this works out the way I want it to.
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>>182403130
It should, yeah. Sometimes that tube has collision issues, so be mindful of that.
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>>182400832
>>182376281
>>182375539
>people genuinely believe that Sonic Boom/Synergy would have ever been good
wew
>>182375874
these are kind of nice though
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>>182377404
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>>182403130
>dash panels
Those better be for testing purposes only.
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>>182402556
What ten warriors would Sonic and friends send to fight?
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>>182377404
>>182385152
>>182397905
>>182403663
AND RETURN RYAN DRUMMOND
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>>182403821
Sonic, Classic Sonic and whatever other variants. Oh, and Buddy but he dies trying to save the day.
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>>182403701
The whole point of this kit is for people to make levels in the way they see fit. I hate them too, but if the man wants dash panels he can have dash panels if he thinks it's best.
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>>182404035
My nig of fine taste

Griffithfags can go suck four big Knuckles cocks.
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I like Roger's Sonic voice.
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>>182404538
You're wrong to enjoy these things.
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>>182403701
I want to make something like Sonic Heroes' special stages. I don't understand much about this kit yet, but it seems to me like Sonic can't run fast enough to run on the upper side of the pipe without dash panels, so I might need to use a lot of them.
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>>182404538
I don't.
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>>182404538
He and Mike have good chemistry.
But we all know Junichi is the best Sonic.
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>>182403701
>>182404252
>hating on dash panels
But why?
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>>182405018
They're lazy in every conceivable way. They exist solely because Sonic Team is too lazy to implement scripted events, but they still want to make something spectacular and "cinematic".
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>>182405018
Dash Panels can be good when done right, such as redirecting the player quickly without having to take away their current speed. The problem is that Sonic Team does not. They use them as a substitute for level design rather than a piece of it. See the loop in Forces' Green Hill Zone.
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>>182405486
Does this thing have a conventional undo button somewhere? Because I can't find one and I'm scared to do anything without one.
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>>182405925
Sure. Just hit CTRL+Z.
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>there are people RIGHT NOW who think Sonic 1 is a bad game
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>>182406087
I think it's a great start to the franchise with some really sucky parts like Marble Zone. I don't hate it because it's difficult because it really isn't. I hate it because it goes against everything that Sonic establishes itself to be in Green Hill with all of its slopes and dynamic terrain.
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>>182397593
I still don't have internet connection at home, fuck everything.
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>>182406228
I just went back and played Sonic 1 recently, and I gotta say: Marble Zone isn't that bad.
My only problems with it are the waiting and blockiness of the level, but I can look past the latter. Everything else though is perfectly fine.

Or maybe I'm just used to playing the bad Sonic games...
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>>182406228
>Marble Zone
Plen. That zone had slopes and platforming. The real problem was Labryinth.
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>>182406360
Then how are you posting right now?
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>>182378242
>>182378104
>>182378296
>>182378645
>>182378981
Does no one realize that's just his half-assed way to try and explain the writing inconsistencies

Different games, different writers, and not many of them care about canon or consistency, and they all aren't totally sure what direction Sonic's story should take. This is Iizuka's 'canon' reasoning for why everything changes each game.
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>>182406719
Phone.
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>>182399014
>I want to see just how fucking fast Sonic can go in that engine.
See, there's that word "can" again. I can't emphasize enough that Sonic "can" be as fast as you want him to be in this engine. By default in the build I released, Sonic's top speed is 270 m/s. For this particular Webm, however, I cranked it up to 340.29 m/s: the Speed of Sound at sea-level. This is what Mach 1 looking like in the engine. I have complete control, I can perform jumps off of terrain and I can keep the speed going by landing back on another slope at the correct angle.
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>>182404851
i forgot how much i wanted to kiss nicole
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>>182406228
Marble Zone isn't that bad. I mean, it's definitely the second worst level in the game after Labyrinth Zone, but it's more bland than flat out unfun.

I used to rank Sonic 1 pretty low, but Spring Yard Zone, Star Light Zone, and Scrap Brain Zone are all so fucking good.
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>>182406502
Now Labyrinth Zone on the other hand is a real piece of shit. It's got the blockiness of Marble, except it's EVERYWHERE. AND in spots where you're underwater. So whenever Sonic jumps to get over the blocks, it takes like 5 years to get to the next part, where you have to jump AGAIN.
It's not that it's even that hard. It's just so slow and boring ALL THE TIME.
At least with Marble Zone, the only time where you're extremely slow is pushing like two blocks and waiting on three to cross the lava lake, except two of them you can skip over if you want to.
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>>182406807
The only people that actually care about the story have literal autism, so no, they probably don't understand bazooka's motivation to bullshit on the subject.
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How do i git gud at Sonic?
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>>182407289
Run uphill, roll downhill, practice. Unless you're playing a Modern game, in which case hold X and practice.
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>>182406947
FUAAAAARK
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>>182407289
Depends on which game you're playing.
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Friendly reminder that if you didn't get all the emeralds in the Genesis games without cheats or save states, you are SHIT at sonic.

I'm shit btw
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>>182407116
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>>182407831
Don't worry anon, me too
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>>182407831
I got them in 1 and 3&K, but not 2 because I just don't like the special stages in that game.
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>>182394352
>everything else
We are the fucking cancer my man.
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>>182407572
The classic ones.
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>>182407831
I'm trying to get gud. But I'm too lazy.
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>>182408241
The classic Sonic games were platformers with an arcade design mentality. That means it's expected for you to replay them often to get better times and higher scores. Don't go super fast your first few times. Replay the games, learn the levels, and gradually get better through repetition and memorization.

Yes, I know that kind of design mentality might seem outdated, but this was the early 90s when arcades were still popular as fuck, even in the US, and Sega was king of the arcades before even considering entering the console market, so the design philosophies had a lot of overlap.
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>>182408241
For Sonic 2 in particular, spend a LOT of time in Emerald Hill. Strategize a way to get as many Emeralds as you can during these two zones as there are many checkpoints and Rings replenish after each run of the Special Stage. This is a great way to not only stock up on Emeralds, but lives as well.
Then, blast through the game as Super Sonic with lots of lives in stock. However, when you get to Wing Fortress, AVOID turning into Super Sonic. His enhanced acceleration messes with the precision platforming needed in order to get through it.
After that, it's final boss time. No Super Sonic here, so you'll have to actually git gud to finish the game but, if you do, you will have 100%ed it.

>>182408847
Speaking of 100%, what the hell, man. Why?
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>>182406947
imagine, a open world sonic game that is 10x bigger than breath of the wild and with loads of singled out areas to travel to. i think i'm having a heart attack thinking about it.
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>>182408847
Congrats on completing the best Sonic game ever made.
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>>182408967
>Then, blast through the game as Super Sonic with lots of lives in stock.
That's boring as fuck.
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>>182408967
I figured no one else ever would, I know more than most people will know about this game.
I still think its funny when people say if they ported to this PS4/Xbox it would be better for some reason.
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>>182406947
>This is what Mach 1 looking like in the engine. I have complete control, I can perform jumps off of terrain and I can keep the speed going by landing back on another slope at the correct angle.
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>>182408847
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>>182407834
Did you draw this?
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>>182408986
It could be done with this engine, in theory. The main thing would be looking up how to do dynamic terrain loading and culling in order to maintain steady load-times. Then it's a matter of, you know, actually populating that world with things to do and hundreds of thousands of rings to get.
>>182409156
Pretty slick in't it? Now it's up to you slow-mo's to actually do something with it.
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>>182409435
That would be pretty cool if it wasn't a little sissy eurofag car.
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>>182408847
Long time no see, anon.
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I find it funny that with the whole comics situation going on that Tomy still sells those Sonic action figures that come with an Archie Sonic comic.
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>>182409616
I never left, just stopped posting as much since nothing interesting has been happening with Sonic lately.
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>>182409435
That's kinda cool, but I wish it was a kick ass picture instead of one with bedroom eyes.
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>>182409408
Nah. I don't really draw.
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>There are people in this thread right now who didn't own a Genesis and both addons as a kid.
Sad!
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>>182410120
I was born 3 months after the Genesis was discontinued
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>>182410465
Get out.
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>>182410596
I'm 19 grandpa, I don't need to
:^)
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>>182410120
I played the Genesis games on PC.
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>>182410120
This motherfucker is the reason why my parents refused to get a Saturn and told me to play PC games instead. I didn't get another console again until I got a used PS2 in college.
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>tfw Forces Switch could be cool if they fixed the framerate
>they probably wont
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>>182411691
Supporting Nintendo was a mistake.
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>>182411764
>not supporting Nintendo
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>>182411903
How is that Switch floating in the air?
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>>182394352
/biz/, /pol/, /mu/ & /sp/
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>>182409531
Yep, it looks great. I sadly won't be able to do anything tomorrow, but I do want to try & work on my stage over the weekend.

>>182394352
Nah, I go on /co/, /ck/ & /toy/. Sometimes I go on /asp/ if I'm bored, but that's about it. Boards like /tv/, /v/, /pol/ & what have you are too shitty for me to even bother with.
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>>182409703
Clearly this means that the comic rights should go over to Tomy.
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>>182394352
/co/, /ck/, /v/, sometimes /bant/, /a/ when there's a new episode of DB Super, and I used to go on /vp/ but don't really anymore.

Also /mlp/.
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So /sthg/, if you were to make another Sonic fighting game, what would the roster be?

>>182408847
Damn, good job anon.
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>>182411903
>photoshopping a Switch in the middle of a room
Wow you sure showed me, anon.
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Drifting is gone in Forces.
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>>182412617
Depends, are comic characters allowed?
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guys you need to see this.

Rafa Knight did a lupe model. sadly he was going to use it for some unreleased issue.

boy, ken penders SURE does suck.
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I'm having a lot of trouble, but I'm learning bit by bit. This is all I have time for today though.
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>>182412617
Sonic
Tails
Amy
Knuckles
Eggman
Shadow
Rouge
Omega
Blaze
Silver
Cream
Metal Sonic
Vector
Espio
Charmy
Tikal
Chaos 0
Jet
Wave
Storm
Buddy
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>>182410120
You know, I saw someone point out that SEGA started making their equivalent of a virtual boy, but were smart enough to realize it wouldn't work with the tech available at the time. Yet, they were dumb enough to make these addons.
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I want honest answers. What do you think about Nintendo these days? What did you think about them when the Wii U was still new? How about the Wii? The Gamecube?

To tie this into Sonic, how would you feel if Nintendo gained the rights to Sonic and Sega was relegated to pachinko machines and Atlus?
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>>182394352
The Board I use to mainly go to was /co/ but since i'm a Marvel Fan and enjoy their new characters and hate Captain Hydra, yeah you can tell i'm SJW Tumblr trash so you can stop reading this post if you want.

I got to /gif/ and /d/ for my porn needs and sometimes /trash/, and if you're gonna ask, i'm in to fat girls.

/ck/ is fun sometimes when I want to read stories about food related stuff, /m/ for super sentai and Power Ranger stuff.

/a/ is ok but their taste in anime is pretty shit.

/vp/ for Pokemon news and /mlp/ for My Small Horse stuff and that's about it.

And if you're still reading this, then yes I do go to Tumblr and I am pinked haired woman who is trans and likes to ruin video games for other people who I don't agree with.

I also saw Spider-man Homecoming and loved it.

That's really it for now, bye my little shitlords, i'm good to sleep, have non racist dreams everyone.
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>>182412617
And also, what style, 2D or 3D? Sorry for the inefficient posting, take this Bunnie as a token of apology.
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>>182412989
I don't them.

>>182412617
What's my limit?
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>>182413136
Mind them, fuck I hate working mornings.
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>>182412918
To answer this, >>182413105 & >>182413136 it'll be 3D. And you can use any characters from the games, comics & tv shows. Cute Bunnie, btw.

>>182412932
Nice. It takes some time to learn, but you'll get the hang of it eventually.
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>>182412951
This anon pretty much nailed it.
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>>182412927
I hope that goon got what he wanted. There's nothing else for him to ruin, right?
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>>182412617
>>182413105
A Sonic Battle sequel with Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, Amy, Metal Sonic, Eggman, Chaos, Tikal, Shadow, Rouge, Espio, Charmy, Vector, Omega, Cream, Silver, Blaze, Sticks, a Zeti, Big, Buddy, Mephiles, Gemerel, Honey, Nicole, Bunnie, an Egg Boss and Mega Man.

>>182412704
And that's terrible, I liked the drift. On the plus side, Sonic Team might not make long turning sections anymore.

>>182412989
Mania would be impossible under Nintendo. No thanks.
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>>182412932
Looking pretty neat so far except:
>At least 4 tubes each with 10 markers
Why not just make a single tube with more markers, Anon?
First, add markers to the marker array in the Spline Bend component.
Next, duplicate the markers in the actual tube object to make more of them (Ctrl+D).
Finally, put the Markers you just created into the new slots in the array by simply clicking and dragging them into their respective slots.
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>>182412617
Sonic
Tails
Knuckles
Amy
Eggman
Metal Sonic
Big
Tikal
Shadow
Rouge
Cream
Gemerl
Vector
Espio
Blaze
Jet
Wave
Storm
Silver
Mephiles
Erazor Djinn
Marine
Merlina
Zavok
Zazz
Zeena
Zomom
Infinite
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>>182413262
Team Sonic, Dark, Amy, Vector with Espio and Charmy assists, Metal, Mecha, Eggman in a mech, Blaze, a Zeti, Chaos, and maybe a comic character or two. Oh, and I guess one of those birds.
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>>182404339
Whatever you say, kiddo.
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>>182413716
Oh, and Omega.
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>>182390536
Yeah, it's straight out of Heroes.
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>>182410120
I only had the genesis. I didn't even know the 32X existed and my only exposure to the CD was playing Sonic CD in the waiting room at the dentist.
I had a model 2 but broke it ages ago, unfortunately all I have left is a model 3.
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Everyone from Battle except replace Gamma with Omega
Emerl also has a G-Emerl skin
Vector
Espio
Big
Eggman in a scaled-down Death Egg robot
Chip in a scaled-down Gaia Colossus
Alternate Tails in his SA2 mech
Metal Sonic
King Boom Boo
Sally
Bunny
Rotor in a mech
Honey
Clove

The gameplay would be like the Naruto Ultimate Ninja Storm games. Over the shoulder with very simple combo strings, making it about navigating the map and trapping your opponent.
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>>182411691
>>182411764
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7nsBoqJ6s8
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>>182412704
What the fuck are they doing with Forces? What are they thinking?
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>>182414842
>The gameplay would be like the Naruto Ultimate Ninja Storm games
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>>182413875
Those are some very cute rats.
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>>182414842
>Rotor in a mech
>Not going full Tager and embracing the magnetism
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>>182412989
I used to love Nintendo when I was younger and was one of those obnoxious fanboys that would defend every awful decision they made. Nintendo could do nothing wrong. I was part of the cancer that would eventually ruin Gamefaqs. It didn't help that I was a teenager and not a small child. I looked back at some of things I posted and god I can't stop cringing.

They make fantastic games of course, but they're still a horrible company. They're out of touch. They have backwards policies. They treat their fans like shit to be honest. I have no idea how they get away with what they do. You see Western gaming companies letting people make mods for their games. They embrace their fan communities and their creations. Look at our fanbase and our romhacks. Sega doesn't go around shutting them down anymore. Hell they hired fans to develop Sonic Mania. Nintendo just shuts everything down. There's nothing wrong with protecting your IP but other gaming companies seem to be doing just fine while not shitting on their fans.

If Sonic was sold off to Nintendo, I would be horrified. Every Sonic game would be the same from here on out. It would either get the NSMB treatment or just left to rot. There would be no games like Forces or Mania. There would be no more fanmade romhacks because Nintendo would shut everything down so they can put their own romhacks out and charge $50 for each and pass them off as brand new games.
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>>182414842
It's been a long time since I've played the Ultimate Ninja Storm games so I don't know much about the gameplay, but I do like your roster.
Also, night /sthg/.
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>>182412927
pls do bump rafa
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>>182414842
>Chip
>King Boom Boo
>another tails
>Big
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>>182415205
Chip (in his vs. Dark Gaia thing), & Big aren't bad choices, desu. Boom Boo I would rather see as a boss than a playable character, tho.
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What if I feed Sonic bone hurting juice?
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>>182406947
That's some Sonic CD opening shit right there. Why won't my mouth stop watering?
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>>182412927
One potential upside to the comics situation: Rafa may make public all the Archie models.
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OKAY FAGGOTS YOU KNOW WHAT ITS TIME FOR

A FUCKING SA3 SCRIPT

NAZO WILL BE IN THAT SHIT.
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>>182415205
I wanted to balance out the roster with more heavy-class fighters to avoid another Smash 4 situation where it's almost all the same body-type for every character.

>>182415567
Funnily-enough, there's a specific variable in Sonic's character controller that gives Sonic a boost when he does a rolling landing. In Layman's terms: you can control how effective that specific maneuver is, thus allowing you to emphasize the use of the move in your level design.
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>>182415860
And Mephiles the Dark.
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>>182415860
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>>182415860
Will Ashura and Sanic also appear?
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>they announce a Sega Nintendo cross over project
>its just Atlus co-developing Pokemon
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>>182416441
Don't forget our dank motherfucker, Chronic.
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>>182413262
OK, here we go. Roster first:
>All the obvious game characters out of the way (Sonic through Big in terms of overall relevance) plus the Werehog and Buddy
>Mighty, Fang, Bean, Bark, Tails Doll, and Honey
>Sticks
>Post-reboot Freedom Fighters, Naugus, Clove, Thunderbolt, Razor, and Captain Metal
>Lupe, Scourge, don't know who else from preboot cause I've never read it (maybe Mina, so we can have a token idol character?)
>Manic and Sonia
>Scratch, Grounder, and Coconuts
>Fleetwamy and Johnny Lightfoot
>Sonic Man from '06 as a Dan-like joke character
Now for some notes:
>Game itself takes the mechanics from SEGA's 3D fighters like Virtua Fighter and Fighting Vipers but simplifies the inputs, uses StF's block system, and is overall a lot bouncier and open for aerial attacks. Think of it as an intermediary between Super Smash Bros/Power Stone-likes and a 'real' fighting game that's accessible for kids and normalfags
>Chaotix, SSSaSS, and the Underground duo are one character each with a tag-team gimmick, think Pokemon Trainer or Zelda in Smash Bros.
>Sonia and Manic's special attacks involve playing their instruments, like Big Band in Skullgirls
>Tails Doll is a fast rushdown character that morphs into variants on his 'fleshy abomination' form from the comic for attacks, kind of like Double from Skullgirls
>Eggman and TB fight in their mechs, Eggman's being a variant on his SA2 walker that has arms
>Buddy is still a customizable character, but this time they have different body types that affect speed, weight, etc.
>Characters have Classic and/or Boom skins where applicable that change voices and victory quotes
>Werehog has a Ristar skin (main reason why I even included the Werehog)
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>>182416563
WHEELZ DA HEDGEGOD confirmed
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What did you think about the Sonic Riders series?
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>>182417968
Shitty af.
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>>182417968
first was okay second was meh, and third was 06 levels of bad.
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>>182417968
Couldn't really get into it.
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>>182417968
I like the first one, but that may be due to nostalgia bias. If they fixed up the quirks in the controls and hit detection, made the handling better, had your character absorb rings that were near them, made it so drifting didn't require air, removed turbulence, and had the shortcuts change after each lap or otherwise made them more interesting, then the game would be great. There's a very solid set of core mechanics here and I resent how they were never properly improved. I also like the Babylon Rogues, despite how they're just generic bad guy archetypes.

Also WHY THE FUCK WAS ULALA THE UNLOCKABLE GUEST CHARACTER FOR THE SPEED CLASS AND NOT BEAT FROM JET SET RADIO JESUS DICK HE COMES FROM A GAME ABOUT GOING FAST AND YOU ALREADY HAVE ROLLERBLADE-STYLE EXTREME GEAR ALSO JSR WASN'T EXACTLY RELEVANT BUT IT WAS MORE RELEVANT AT THE TIME THAN SPACE CHANNEL FUCKING FIVE HOLY COCK SONIC TEAM CAN'T DO ANYTHING RIGHT
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>>182412989
>What did you think about them when the Wii U was still new?
I remember thinking over what the hell was going on, basically, over the console itself and some games they made during. The further I looked through Nintendo's marketing in that time, the more I was confused and even worried (even if brand loyaltism is not my thing) with the company. Even so, I had fun with titles such as Splatoon.

>How about the Wii? The Gamecube?
My mind was more simple back in this time, so I didn't care anything, as long I has fun games to play.

>how would you feel if Nintendo gained the rights to Sonic
Although we would lose Mania, greater connection between the company and its fans, some Dimps games and comics, I believe Sonic would be in a much better state if it was handled by Nintendo, with having estabilished 3D and 2D games, much less bad games and a better fanbase. I think I would get sad, but also be relieved and glad that the franchise is now in better hands.

>>182398216
That's true. I almost forgot the Insta-shield exist, even if I had no idea what it did in my first sight and had no success over trying to use it on any possible case. I think drop-dash suits better for Sonic, as this can go well for speeding purposes.
Nevertheless, I don't know then. Maybe it has to do with how many people who make fangames love SCD, and this can be noticed if you see how many Sonic fangames use the CD's jump sound. I heard Retro holds a great quantity of people who consider CD as the best Sonic game ever made.

>>182404035
Well, It's not something I would pick, but he's better than Roger, so I would still not mind it. Ryan's old age would affect the voice we all know from Adventure and Heroes, though.

>>182404339
Good thing I prefer Jason, then.
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>>182417968
I only ever played the first, but while it took some getting used to, I thoroughly enjoyed it. This was a long time ago, though--maybe I'd change my mind if I played it today.

>>182418245
>Vanilla in casual
What saints were we in our past lives to deserve such a treasure?
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>>182415689
Couldn't do that anyway. They belong to Archie and/or Sega.
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>>182412989
I used to be all about Nintendo. Got all the handhelds and consoles from the N64 to Wii U but I'm burned out now. I can't justify to myself buying another console for only a few games.
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>>182400832
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ma7cSrg7h8
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>>182417968
I liked the outfits and 2D artstyle
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>>182412617
>>182413105
3D Fighting game styled after Sonic Battle and Pokken.

Roster:
Sonic
Tails
Knuckles
Metal Sonic
Amy Rose
Big The Cat
Shadow
Rouge
E-123
Silver
Blaze
Sticks
Espio
Vector
Cream
Chaos 0
Emerl
Zavok
Several other characters would be assists
Charmy
Vanilla
Buddy
Marine
Maria
Tikal
Chao
Chip
Yacker
Iblis
Mephiles
All the Zeti
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>>182402556
Goku finally decides to destroy this rip-off universe.
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im playing sadx (better sadx) and am not having any fun
what do
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>>182421024
Play SA2.
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>>182420313
Same here. This is the first generation where I may just skip the main Nintendo console and instead get a PS4
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>>182420170
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>>182416243
>funnily-enough
This is bad grammar.
You should instead say
"Humorously,"
We elite Sonic fans need to conduct ourselves in the most professional manner possible.
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>>182421779
"Funnily enough" only SOUNDS bad, but it is acceptable according to Oxford.
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>>182416903
It is factually provable that wheels are superior to paws, toes, and blobs. Example: SEGA All-Stars Racing Transformed.
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>>182422351
>Funnily enough
>sounds bad

Do people not say that where you live? It's a standard turn of phrase in some places.
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>>182422561
It sounds perfectly fine in most, if not all, parts of America, but >>182421779 said the grammar was bad.
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>>182416903
Coldsteel as narrator?
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>>182372021
Source? I really like this art style
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Buddy is sad cause he has no bf.
Cheer him up /sthg/.
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>>182425512
KEEP CRYING FAGGOT
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>>182425512
Cheer up Buddy, no need to show the others how weak you truly are.
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Still the best zone 1973
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>>182427000
Oh yeah forgot to Enable my CRT Filter.
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>>182425512
>gay
#notmybuddy
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CAUSE EVERY NIGHT I WILL SAVE YOUR LIFE
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>>182394352
/sthg/ and /emugen/ are the only tabs constantly open in my browser. Occasionaly stopping by /v/ and /vp/, but nothing too interesting there.
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i fucking hate buddyfags
like i can understand wanting to fuck sonic or shadow but buddy isnt attractive in the fucking slightest
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Something I did for fun. Hopefully I can add more to this later.
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>>182427000
SICK GOJIRA REFERENCE
>>182426131
dat pencil brush
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>>182425512
NERD

>>182428361
That's a really nice Sonic
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>>182428338
It's the glasses. Really it was a genius move marketing him to the Roy Orbison Rayban wearing hipsters.
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>>182407831
I only got all the emeralds in Sonic Megamix. Does that count?
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>>182425512
Don't worry buddy
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>>182428361
Adorable
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>>182428338
Why wouldn't people want to fuck Buddy?
He's cute as fuck.
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>>182425512
I'm gonna give you a hug, Buddy!
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>>182430275
So cute, who's the artist?
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>>182430641
Aoki.
http://aoki6311.tumblr.com/sonic
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>>182428361
Nice
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>>182431295
Thank you
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About to play the PC version of this for the first time.

What are some essential mods? Any good Chao ones?
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>>182432663
Apart some character mods and retextures, I can't seem to find anything worth mentioning.
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>>182425512
Buddy was a robot all along
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>>182427000
Add the US soundtrack and we agree
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Do not post in this thread anymore.
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>>182439074
Oh anon, why are you upset?
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>>182437201
He'd be the worst waiter ever. Slow customers with their picky, long requests.

And he'd spill coffee with ever step considering he'd move over hundreds of miles per hour.
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Daily reminder Shadow and his low-rate fans should never be allowed on Mobius.
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>>182410120
In my country Motherland nobody knew about these addons. We have only Genesis console itself.
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bumb
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>>182412989
>Nintendo gained the rights to Sonic

And there real Dark Age for Sonic begins...
No ROMhacks, no fangames, and all famous romhackers going behind bars.
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>>182412617
I just want Sonic wrestling game with sonic waifus.
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>>182407831
I know.

>>182437201
I'm curious to go there and the art is cute.

>>182417968

>>182420583 's along with the boards, etc and their animations.
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>>182439292
Shadow thought he was kidding when he said he'd make him eat those words.
Sonic doesn't fuck around.
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>>182432663
>SA2 Battle
> Battle

What the point?
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>>182417968
Loved the alt costumes and artstyle. Couldn't get into the gameplay.
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>>182393358
I don't care if I'm late to all the shitty mess that came from this argument but wouldn't this be flawed considering there were games after 3&K and before Adventure? I don't know why so many people had a big fit and a long conversation over an obviously flawed idea.
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>>182424706
Wish I knew
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>>182439292
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>>182439717
And then, Nintendo would sell a ROMhack collection reaping all the profits while every drone, on the orders of Kotaku, buys it generating tremendous profit, never touches it and claim once again that Sonic was never good as Sonic becomes nothing but a shit-tier character for Smash.
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>>182439931
Yeah, you like having sexual harassment to little foxes, slutty bat.
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>>182412989
I fucking despise them and their fans.
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>>182440458
DA: http://themonstersbride.deviantart.com/art/Sticks-Compilation-691109428
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>>182373437
Fucking Ty the Tasmanian Tiger ripoff
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>>182440535
They were two different people, it's made by TheMonstersBride
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>>182440458
goth Amy a cute
I think its the white shirt, and the possibility of making it wet and seeing the goods beneath.
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>>182440684
>>182441285
Isn't it about time some crazy, wild-eyed scientists got together and created genetically-engineered Amy's for us to have and hold and other lewd stuff? That or pop them into some sort of theme park and call it "Sonic Land" or whatever
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>>182441465
Forget Amy.
I'd create tons of copies of Sonic and Shadow and other male Sonic characters and sell them to furfags for hundreds of thousands of dollars a piece.
And k-keep a few for myself.
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>>182441647
it would be a bit like the scene from Alien 4, with all the clone Ripleys, except they'd be deformed sonics, each getting closer to the correct proportions and colour.
>"......kill.........me............"
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Do not actively create fakers.
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>>182442186
Here's one.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faker_(video_gamer)
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How does Penders's art keep getting worse?
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>>182443814
Literally getting nauseous looking at that
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>>182443814
When is this ever going to be released?
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>>182443814
He's really refined his craft to that magical point where it looks like a parody of itself.
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>>182443814
Does he have actual brain problems? Chris-chan's art hasn't gotten any better, but it also hasn't gotten worse. This faggot has literally gotten worse over time.
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>>182443814
How could a company accept to publish and sponsor this DeviantArt crap?
How does Penders make money with this?
How was Mobius obliterated by this guy?
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>>182444762
He claims he has a publisher but dodges questions on who it is?
Sells random crap at conventions
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>>182443814
The Great Plan was stretching back decades. Penders is the ultimate ruseman, sooner or later you will give up to Lara-Su.
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>>182444762
Sega are retards for not counter-suing this autist and leaving his butthole a smoking crater.
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>>182445108
I think his twitter says a lot about how many fans he has. Dude is lucky if he gets three likes on a post.
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>>182445264
>600 followers
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Why is this allowed?
What the hell was SEGA thinking?
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Penders

>all those typos

Why does this look like Penders himself wrote everything?
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>>182446109
>Following this and a court settlement,[10][11] many characters created by Penders abruptly ceased to appear in the comics.

So what amazing donutsteel characters did he create for the comic, anyways?
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>>182445885
Same reason as Sonic 4, a quick buck.
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>>182446109
Because he probably did

>>182446221
Every Echidna that isn't Knuckles or Tikal, for one. That includes other non-Penders Echidna too, thanks to the whole Bioware lawsuit.
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Is it just me, or is the UF President corrupt as hell?
>deploys killer robots in populated areas in his own country all to catch a blue rat
>gets yanked around by a general with a 50-year old grudge against a black rat
>literally clinks glasses with a greedy corporate exec that manipulates the fuck out of everyone she meets
>uses Russian hardware in SA2
How the hell did he get elected?
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>>182446718
Generic Donald Trump joke.
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>>182446221
http://archiesonic.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Characters_introduced_by_Ken_Penders

There were also some that were removed because of technicalities, like Matilda due the mere mention of Mighty having a sister or Shard due to Penders giving the original Metal Sonic a power gem.

A lot of characters that people miss either weren't made by him at all (all other writers' characters were erased too) or were only salvaged by another writer.
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>>182446525
Knuckles confirmed for being the last of his kind forever
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>>182444762
>>182445108
I seriously doubt he has a publisher behind his work unless he's attempting to start one himself.

Having any potential employer google his name is enough for them to find out how horrible of an idea working with him would be.
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>>182446525
I thought SEGA legally owned all the Bioware Echidnas. Wasn't there some statement/interview with Ian somewhere saying SEGA gave the OK for Chronicles to be used, but chose not to for fear of another lawsuit? Or am I going crazy and this never happened?
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>>182446956
>Scourge is the first thing I see when opening that link
This will never not be bullshit. He was literally "EVIL SONIC" before Ian came in.
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>>182446718
Putin probably helped him get elected.
He should be impeached.
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>>182446718
>literally clinks glasses with a greedy corporate exec that manipulates the fuck out of everyone she meets
Her corporation is basically its own nation. He has precedence to meet with her for diplomatic reasons.
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>>182447110
Sega does still legally own them, but I am pretty sure Sega said the Bioware characters are still banned from being used or referenced, both in the games and comics now, to avoid stirring Penders up again.

As such they have never been seen again, not in Generations nor the comics nor anything else.
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>>182447357
How is it that you can legally own something, but can't use it in any way? How does that even work?
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>>182447189
And he is still literally "EVIL SONIC", any form of an anti-Sonic would be at risk at Penders throwing a shit fit. The same shit goes for Sonic's parents, because Penders will think they're based on the characters he made to be Sonic parents. Because Penders TOTALLY invented the concept of Sonic having been born from 2 hedgehogs FUCKING amirite?
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>>182447301
Don't you mean Ivo Robotnik
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>>182447484
SEGA doesn't care enough to spend money and fight it.
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If Penders was to have an "accident" rendering him unable to form understandable sentences, or possibly suffering the loss of ability to breath... Can we get the comics back, free of his tyranny and restrictions?
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>>182447484
This is done by the people who shot themselves in the foot by not using their hardware at its full potential only to piss off Americans.
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All that effort to be in good legal standing and someone still sued Archie and SEGA anyway.
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>>182447668
Unfortunately the damage has already been done, not to mention it isn't Penders who called for legal action, it was Bollers on recommendation from Penders. Nothing would change if this man were to die tomorrow. The most I would hope is for Sega to not be afraid of using Echidnas again or a follow up to Chronicles but they were probably not going to do that regardless.
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>>182447920
Bollers hasn't sued anyone.
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I'm pretty sure Chronicles isn't well liked or cared about from any branch of SEGA anyway.
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>>182447696
Did that actually happen? If so, for what game(s)?
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>>182447985
Just looked it up again, it was Fulop. Excuse me, couldn't remember it off the top of my head.
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>>182447920
To be honest Sega was probably looking for ways to kill off every non-Japanese character and subplot with the comic. The interdiction to call the planet Mobius has nothing to do with Edchi'nyaz.
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>>182424706
>8 hours later
Don't care
http://themonstersbride.deviantart.com/art/Sticks-Compilation-691109428
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>>182448159
SEGA can easily kill the book at the drop of a hat if they wanted to. They don't need to look for ways, if they want it gone or a reboot with only their stuff, it's their license and choice.

>>182448197
You were already beaten to the punch, pal. >>182440535
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Fuck Ken Penders, this is his fault we will never have another echidnas except Knuckles and Tikal.
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>>182448316
It's good that they helped though, anon. I struggled with it.
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>>182448316
Let's say
>Sega forgot about Mobius
>Penders reminds them
>Not only it survived the Adventure Purge but it cost us a trial
>Nuke.jpg
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>>182448438
Honestly, you probably weren't going to get them anyway. Chronicles isn't canon and SEGA likely would've still doubled down on Knuckles being the last one of his kind.
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Fuck, I just want the comics back just to conclude everything. At least reach #300, after that they can do what they like.
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>>182448589
>Chronicles isn't canon

Here we go... This song and dance again.
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>>182448589
>would've still doubled down on Knuckles being the last one of his kind.

I wish Sol dimension has at least one female echidna counterpart.
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>>182448832
I know, I know, but it reinforces the point that SEGA/Sonic Team have little care for it. The brand manager back in early 2011,(before Penders filed suits against SEGA and EA) straight up said it is not canon.
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Now what if Emerl was playable in a Sonic Warriors game and you could customise his moveset just like in Battle?
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>>182449453
Call it Battle 2
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>>182449380
What a messy hog.
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>>182449360
>The brand manager back in early 2011,(before Penders filed suits against SEGA and EA) straight up said it is not canon.

Yeah, I know. That's the problem. Brand managers don't dictate canon, the creators do. He also implied Generations isn't canon either. And it doesn't help that like a year ago, Ian supposedly asked SEGA for a list of canon Sonic stuff. And SEGA replied that there's really nothing that's non canon, but stressed that Sonic R is. It only makes things more confusing.
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New game with Super Knuckles/Tails when?
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>>182450679
Ideally Mania. But with Iizuka in charge, that's not gonna happen.
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Who's abandoning /sthg/ once Mania drops and not returning until completing it?
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>>182450570
I think Sega is just one of those companies where everything is canon, and nothing is canon.

As in all the characters and games and locations you experienced really happened, unless the current plot of the current game you are playing says otherwise.

That way they can keep their "rich history" of games and characters loosely connected by offhand references, without feeling restricted by continuity.

Basically, they don't care about the continuity. That's why Iizuka will try and claim that Lost World and Adventure are set in different continuities, but Sonic is going to probably remember both Chaos and Zavok in Forces.

As fans of the franchise, the only real solution is to just enjoy the games as they come, and not worry too much. Just treat everything as canon where applicable, much like the Comics did.
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>>182450772
You never know man. I can guarantee you a month from now, we're all going to be furiously shitposting like excited little children about all the neat stuff we're finding in the game.
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>>182450951
Oh me 100%
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>>182450951
I was going to do that for Forces, seeing as that game actually is somewhat story-focused, and I don't want it spoiled. Who knows, something major could happen like SA2.
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>>182450951
Me for sure.
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https://youtu.be/Zv0BEGy_f30
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>>182450951
No I want to hang around here during maximum HOOYP time and share our experiences with the game. I'll also be watching any videos or streams Johnny is going to do.
[spoilers]And pose my figma's playing with the Sonic statue.[/spoilers]
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>>182451013
I hope you're right. But even if you're not, I know they'll be modded in anyway. I'm predicting Hyper Form mods too. So It's not that big of a deal for me.
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>>182450951
Why on earth would I do that?
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>>182451205
I'd love to see some pictures, anon!
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>>182451640
To avoid being spoiled.
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>>182451510
Who is Sonic's waifu? Who is Knuckles' waifu?
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>>182451510
>these joints
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>>182451659
I'd understand that for Forces but not Mania. Also Mania will probably be "completed" in like 2 hours anyways.
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>>182451724
>Who is Sonic's waifu?
His next chili dog.
>Who is Knuckles's waifu?
Master Emerald
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>>182451510
There's a doujinishi just waiting to happen.
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>>182451642
I'll post pictures of the statue if there aren't already a ton from other people.
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>>182451751
In the off chance you don't end up with the game right away (likely if you bought the Collector's Edition) or don't beat it in a sitting or find special stuff that's probably hidden in some fashion, you may not want to be spoiled.
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>>182449010
I always thought Blaze was more of Knuckle's Sol counterpart than a Sonic counterpart.
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>>182452084
Three buddies!
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>>182452026
Blaze is pretty much Sonic an Knuckles combined.
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>>182451962
I just keep worrying that something stupid will happen with my Amazon preorder.
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>>182452186
I just want Street Date delivery.

Imagine if SEGA fucks up hard and all the Collector's Editions don't ship right away.
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>>182451510
I honestly would have thought there'd be a lot more Super Sonico x Sonic crossover art or even Super Sonico as Super Sonic for the puns, but I haven't found a lot.
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>>182452489
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>>182452702
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>>182452789
Sonic doesn't like being cuddled with filthy cows.
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Kek.
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>>182425512
He can have this tiger. He switches.
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>>182453382
"Tommy" there ain't got shit on Hunter.
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>>182453380
We all know Sonic selling himself to dirty old men for hotdogs.
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>>182453576
You.

I like you.
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>>182453576
Now I'm craving some Subway.
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>>182454762
Quick, eat a cake instead!
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>>182454896
Sonic's a BIG guy!
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>>182450951
>tfw peer pressure is going to force me to complete Mania with the emeralds
Actually, do we know if there are emeralds in Mania?
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>>182456056
No confirmation, but then again why wouldn't they be in?
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>>182452026
It's being a Sonic counterpart that makes her similar to Knuckles. Don't you know how these things work? Blaze, as Sonic's counterpart, has to have traits that make her like an opposite or anti- Sonic. Having responsibilities and themes of order and stuff, are the traits that oppose Sonic's free spirit.

She is a Sonic counterpart because she is tied to the Sol Emeralds where Sonic is tied to the Chaos Emeralds. The two sets of Emeralds are like two sides of a magnet. That polarity would logically exist between Sonic and Blaze themselves. So Blaze, as the reverse polarity, has traits that are opposite of Sonic's along with traits that are similar to Sonic's. Knuckles, as the Guardian of the MASTER Emerald, is completely made up of traits that directly oppose Sonic's, because the Master Emerald exist to stop the Chaos Emeralds.
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>>182456056
We haven't seen much of anything about the special stages. I think there was a brief shot of Sonic running inside some kind of powerball machine.
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Has anyone ever played 3D Blast with the analog controller? I'm watching footage of the Saturn version and it actually looks really good. Wondering how it plays with the analog.
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>>182456598
The theme of order is even present in Shadow, the dark-incarnation of Sonic.

His signature move is Chaos CONTROL, he wears Limiters to hold back and control his power output, he has been used as a weapon used by a higher power multiple times, he's always focused on "the mission", he even works directly under the President/Government/Military. For Shadow, as literally another version of Sonic himself, the theme of order is wrapped around his own inherent chaos. Chaos tamed and controlled by Order. He's like the rebellious teenager that was sent to Military School.
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>>182456716
That lottery machine was from Studiopolis Act 2.
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>>182446718
Well, he didn't write his own speeches.
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>>182456056
Well we seem to be getting Giant Rings so it's quite likely there will be Special Stages
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>>182456735
I didn't know 3D Blast used the Saturn's analog controller. I'll be honest, I've never played the Saturn version because I just like the Genesis versions OST so much better.
Rusty Ruin is my favorite stage in any Sonic game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfG09iLCKsM
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>>182457667
They're Time Stones
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>>182458326
What if it was Chaos Emeralds, Time Stones and Chaos Rings.
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>>182458816
>Chaos Rings
The fuck are those?
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>>182458939
Knuckles' Chaotix collectibles
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>>182458939
You need to go play Chaotix right now.
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>>182458816
If you're shoving all three in there you might as well add the Super Emeralds, Sol Emeralds and World Rings.
Wait, what if the Super Emeralds (called Chaos Emeralds), Sol Emeralds and World Rings are the modern equivalent to the Chaos Emeralds, Time Stones and Chaos Rings?
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So I just finished the Sonic Advance Trilogy.

3 >>> 1 >>>>>>>> 2

I don't really know what happened with 2. Everyone says it's the best, but it honestly felt the most boring to me. They switched out hard mode (Amy) for easy mode (Cream), and while I love the rabbit, it felt like there was much less interesting gameplay options for me. I liked gitting gud with Amy.

On top of that, so much of Sonic Advance 2 was just rehashing Sonic 2/3, and not even doing a very good job if you ask me. Very bland overall.

Sonic Advance 1 on the other hand was a very impressive first entry in the series that appropriately translated the faster-paced Adventure style games to 2D.

Sonic Advance 3 is one of my favorite Sonic games ever now. I was worried because I had heard some questionable things about the level design, and I was worried about the team-up gimmick. On the contrary, it had some of the most enjoyable level design of the series. Yes, there are more bottomless pits, but they are very clearly coordinated by platforming iconography, so if you fuck up and lose a life, it's almost always your fault.

The team-up system was incredibly fun to bring side-characters into the game, offering tweaked gameplay that didn't detract from the gameplay as a whole. You could have a really fun time teaming up with Cream for some silly and laid-back fun with the Chao's, or you could work with Amy who makes gameplay a little more challenging and skill-based like the first Advance game.

Also the level themes and visuals, and the music, is some of the most enjoyable of the entire series. Chaos Angel intimidated me going in, but holy fuck it might be my favorite Zone ever, bottomless pits be damned. Plus seeing Angel Island like that is just cool.

All in all, the Trilogy are some of the most enjoyable Sonic games I have ever played. No idea why people think 2 is better than 3 though.

Anybody have any thoughts on the games?
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>>182460481
>Anybody have any thoughts on the games?

Yeah, they're all shit.
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>>182460689
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>>182460481
Amy is still in 2 although you had to unlock her so I understand if you never played as her.
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>>182456128
Maybe Iizuka woke up with the wrong foot one day and decreed it.
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>>182461305
Wait, what? How do you unlock her?
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S3&K special stages > S2 special stages (without Tails) > S1 special stages >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> S2 special stages (with Tails)
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>>182412989
Only console I'll be buying from now on, Nintendo PC is all I need.
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>>182462075
Get all the emeralds
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>>182462114
Heroes special stages > all
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>>182462161
Oh fuck that
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>>182462230
kys
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>>182462161
>>182462237
Getting all the emeralds in 2 was the most retarded mechanic ever designed in Sonic, even worse than Labyrinth's trapped shoes plot
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>>182462306
>he's bad at heroes
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>>182462924
>he's bad at not being a shit-eating faggot
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>>182459070
Literally my mom's donuts.
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>>182463102
I would like a green donut desu.
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What's going on here?
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>>182450951
The minute it unlocks I'm starting it and not taking any breaks until I do a perfect run with all 3 characters plus beating the records if the game includes time trials.
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>>182463328
Sonic did a drug.
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>>182463328
ring ride 3 sonic gets heavier with every ring,and distorts the world when he hits the ground from a height.
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>>182463328
Amy laced his chili dog.
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>>182462161
This is how it should have been:
>Get all Emeralds to unlock Amy
>Get all Emeralds with all characters to unlock Shadow
>Make actually attempting the Special Stages not a pile of ass to do.
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>>182463328
>rings counter

Maybe is it a glitch?
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>>182463805
Just doing away with the fucking 7 medals/emblems/whatever the fuck per act would already be a monumental improvement.
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>>182463669
Holy fuck that would be awesome.
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>>182464602
if you want to play it , look up markey jester's ring ride series.
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Sonic 2 had the best way of getting to the special stages. Sonic 1 takes second place. Sonic 3 was a nice idea for encouraging exploration but in execution it leads to new players doing a lot of backtracking and jumping against random walls and experienced players can exploit the absurd number of giant rings per act and get all the emeralds by the first act of the second zone.

I still say that the ideal way of getting to a special stage should be S-ranking a level, but I haven't seen any games do that. Still wish that there was a classic-style game with a ranking system that functioned like the modern games. The idea seems like prime romhack material.
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>>182464832
>experienced players can exploit the absurd number of giant rings per act and get all the emeralds by the first act of the second zone.
>implying you couldn't do this in Sonic 2
Sonic 1 had the best way to get to special stages.
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>>182464832
>>182464023
I actually think the idea of having to collect things in order to unlock a special stage would be the best idea, but obviously the execution in Advance 2 was horrendous. What they should do is have 3 medals/emblems/red rings/whatever in each act, but they're placed only in the optimal routes and impossible to miss when you're on those routes, so unlocking the special stage means you've mastered the level layout.
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>>182465090
That I can agree with. I don't mind the collecting, but how fucking horrible the things were placed. If they're "given" to me for staying in the best path, that's a lot simpler and more rewarding.
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>>182465029
Well, it's a bit harder in Sonic 2 due to the ring requirement.
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>>182465029
Sonic 1 and Sonic CD, two of the three best Sonic, had the best way to get to the special stages.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XwZQlFaF1c
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>>182464832
To be honest I don't like that way because it's more of a bonus trick. Giant rings in the other Sonic games had that serious, kind of mystical vibe a simple event caused by a checkpoint can't produce.
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>>182465523
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=i3RQpdm4MOU
I prefer this one
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>>182465374
All rings and monitors reset themselves after you leave the special stage, so not really.
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>>182460481
The Advance games are really good, but they just never kept me coming back like the Genesis titles did. Still a must play for anyone who considers themselves a Sonic fan.
I would still play Advance over the Master System titles though.
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>>182462114
Chaotix Special Stages > 3&K Special Stages > everything else > CD Special Stages
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>>182465775
thank you gram grams
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>>182462924
Heroes' special stages are actually pretty easy when you figure out to hold the button not mash it. But the way the ceiling sucks you upward makes them absolute beans.

How to beat Heroes special stages.
>stay in speed formation all the time
>fill boost bar as fast as possible
>hold boost
Even if you haven't gotten the emerald towards the end, they shit the red star links on you just before the goal.
I was tearing my hair out watching Johnny's pals whine about it when they didn't even know to HOLD the boost button.
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>there are probably people in this thread who think you have to mash the button to dash properly in heroes special stages
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>>182465765
Yes.
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>sonic twitter posting Yasuhara-style gimmick drawings for Mania

what does it mean
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>>182467887
Those bar stools in Mirage Saloon are totally the spinner things from Sonic CD.
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>>182468267
Considering Mirage Saloon is pretty much an updated Desert Dazzle, that doesn't shock me in the slightest.
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>>182467887
>>182468267
Doesn't look like a fun gimmick tbqh
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One thing I love about Sonic fans is that we seem to love -- or at the very least -- appreciate many characters that belong to the franchise even if they're irrelevant (like Mighty) or haven't been used in a long time (Fang). Other fanbases like Mario seem to hate on certain characters just because they're barely used or irrelevant to the storyline and that's just unnecessary and borderline retarded to me tbqh. Is it because Sonic is more character-centric?
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>>182469176
No, it's because Waluigi is a stupid meme character that people shouldn't be allowed to like
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>>182469336
Wah!!
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>>182469176
Fuck off Memoryman
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>>182425512
nope
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>>182469176
People always go on about how Sonic characters are just recolours of the same base model, but a lot of Mario characters are just "tall Wario" or "Orange Peach" or "Space Peach".
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>>182469176
Other characters at least had spotlights in games like 3&K, Adventure, Heroes, and the Advance games that offered different gameplay styles. Plus you have the comic, and more defined character traits and lore.

IE; Someone might love Knuckles because he punches and glides, and then starts to enjoy his personality, and his connection to Angel Island and the lore there.

Then you have the comics, and they were popular enough that they even had Sonic Universe focus entirely on those fan-favorite side-characters.

With Mario, the side characters have almost indistinguishable personalities. The bad guys are all greedy and dumb, the heroes are all lighthearted and brave (except for Luigi who is not so brave)

Even Peach and Mario are hardly distinguishable in gameplay and character, beyond appearance.

Mario also never had any character focused, story/lore-heavy games like Adventure, which was a big reason why Sonic fans accepted and wanted more variety in gameplay and characters
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>>182469176
Isn't then entire Waluigi fanbase built on the fact that he's the only "hatted" Mario character who never gets to do anything?
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>>182469616
Fuck off, retard. I've been a Sonic fan nearly all my life. I only got into Mario 2 years ago.

>>182469792
While it's true Mario characters have far less diversity in personality and design than Sonic characters it still annoys me when someone mentions they like a character like Pauline some asshole always decides to sperg about it because they're "irrelevant". It's gotten better with Odyssey but yeah, I think Nintendo fans are generally annoying and groupthink-y though.
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>>182446956
I thought they would have removed Matilda anyway on account on Sega not allowing game characters to have relatives in the reboot. Mighty at least had two appearances.
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>>182470630
That only applies to game characters Sega cares about, like how Witchcart was reinvented as Naugus' sister.
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>>182470119
There's a reason why I'm a bigger fan of the Wario Land series than the main super Mario games and its spinoffs. Too bad Nintendo's been treating it like a redheaded stepchild and nintenautists prefer the shitty WarioWare.
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>>182447668
Would depend if his family would care enough to carry on his behalf.
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Sonic art masterpiece.
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>>182466387
Found the UFO
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>>182460481
Advanced 3's hubworlds are boring and unneeded, they ruin the pacing so hard that I can't put it at the top.
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>>182469792
Mario
Green Mario
Yellow Mario
Purple Mario
Baby Mario
Baby Green Mario

Peach
Yellow Peach
Ghost Peach

Yoshi
Pink Yoshi

Bowser
Baby Bowser

>Oh look they all have totally different backstories so these totally aren't OCs!!!!!!1111!1!!1
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>>182465765
Agreed.
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>>182462114
S3&K special stages are lame, you are mapped to one direction, one path. At least the half pipes allow you to have fun by defying gravity itself. Always found myself having meaningless fun just going in circles while sonic and tails run on air.
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>>182465775
Thanks grandma

>>182466849
A-Anon, don't tease me.
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>>182470880
I would kill for another actual Wario Land, or a game with Bowser as the main character again.
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>>182463328
Sonic has decided to camouflage himself.
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>>182469176
Wait what? I thought tons of Mario fans care about the most insignificant characters and consider random enemies as a character?

And I don't really think that everyone cares about every single irrelevant or formerly used characters. Or at least I can safely say that I don't.
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Okay. So the comic writers, having just lost all of their jobs are miraculously picked up by SEGA to write on the games. Even more miraculously, they allow the use of the Freedom Fighters to be incorporated into the main-series games.

My question is: how would you handle things? What elements would you incorporate from the comics and what would you do to make the transition not jarring for players who are not familiar with the Freedom Fighters? You wouldn't have to do it all in one game. You can spread things out over a few games. I'm just asking how you'd personally handle this merger.
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>>182473406
Drop the Freedom Fighters entirely and just focus on the game characters. Maybe include a few characters from Boom.
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Friendly reminder that Sonic R is literally the greatest game ever created and if you disagree you are a fucking cuckold.
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>>182473350
>I thought tons of Mario fans care about the most insignificant characters and consider random enemies as a character?

Goombas, Koopas, Toads, ect aren't irrelevant since they play a role in the series and have been appearing in the games for a few decades now. Also, many of the creatures have been used as characters for the RPGs with some as sidekicks to the main character.

>And I don't really think that everyone cares about every single irrelevant or formerly used characters. Or at least I can safely say that I don't.

I didn't say everyone nor did I say every single character.
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>>182473406
I don't know maybe have them be an extra set of characters that get called in for more far away stuff that the other characters don't have the time to get to. And you get to play as them each.
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>>182473571
i disagree
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>>182470119
>Mario also never had any character focused, story/lore-heavy games
RPG and Paper Mario were. And maybe a couple of those DS titles.
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>>182473982
I am aware of everything you said, anon. It still doesn't change that you generalized Sonic fans by saying "One thing I love about Sonic fans is that we seem to love -- or at the very least -- appreciate many characters that belong to the franchise" and I felt the need to state that I don't care.

If you want to be nitpicky, I didn't say the word irrelevant, I said insignificant. And I was comparing how insignificant that they are as a "character" compared to characters like Luigi, Peach, etc.

When you look up "favorite characters in the Mario franchise" people tend to put them up there, and I do not mean their RPG counterpart e.g: Goomba to Goombario/Goombella. If they wanted to specify that, then they'd just say the latter and not the former.

Next time, stop trying to be so hostile & defensive and consider what you're trying to say.
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>Had no connection to the internet all day
>Finally get it back
>Only thing I've missed today is Cute Amyposting & Penders talk
Feels good.
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I'm going to say a word, and I want you to respond with the first word that comes to your mind. Ready?

>green hill zone
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>>182475273
NOSTALGIA
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>>182475273
Emerald Hill Zone
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>>182475273
please no
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>>182475273
Next
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>>182475087
Here's what I meant with the Mario characters, and yes I'm aware that some had bigger roles in the RPGs/Spin offs.
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>>182475273
Not again
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>>182475273
Fast
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>>182475273
Why does Sega keep beating around the bush? They might as well just come out with a new Sonic game that's just 20 acts of Green Hill Zone. That's clearly what they want.
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>>182475273
desert
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>>182475273
Ugh.
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>>182475273
Well, since we now apparently live in some crazy tripleverse where one word now equals 3 words, I'd say:
>Izuka must retire
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>>182475273
Iizuka
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>>182475273
triggered
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>>182475795
But Green Hill was spammed way before Iizuka became head of Sonic Team.
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>>182475690
"Why"
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>>182475690
Sega confirmed that Sonic's green eyes represent Green Hill Zone. So every Modern Sonic game has been about Green Hill Zone.
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>>182475889
True, but he's the one perpetuating it. Of course, GHPAnon and the Utopia team are just as guilty, so what do I know?
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>>182475273
YAMEROOO
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>>182475273
Someone post that quote where Iizuka says Sonic's eyes turned green from trauma after looking at GHZ for too long.
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New thread WHEN?
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>>182475273
Disgust
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>>182475273
badnik
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>>182476308
A tad early, but fuck it.
>>182476578
>>182476578
>>182476578
>>182476578
>>182476578
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>>182473406
>What elements would you incorporate from the comics

The Egg Bosses, though they would probably have to cut any morally gray ones like Cassia/Clove and Nephthys. And if I would bring in the Freedom Fighters it would have to be in a RPG spinoff. Nicole could easily be a replacement for Omochao in the main games though as a creation of Tails.
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>>182475273
Sonic
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>>182475087
Let's be clear, I was acting "hostile" nor "defensive" up until this point. What you're saying has no value or relevance to me and I honestly don't care about anything you have to say.

No offense
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>>182476995
*I wasn't
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>>182476995
If you don't have any response to the actual discussion, you shouldn't have bothered saying anything since "you don't care" because you clearly cared enough to make your pathetic response and correct it.

And I don't need your shitty ass "no offense" because it was all intended.
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>>182477379
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