Ace Combat General #320 - aceg

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>letting it die

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Also first for XFA-27 best plane and I forgot to update the last thread link.

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>>182280909
Someone flooded the thread with pokephilia threads. We were on page 5.

Keep this thread above 5, another flooding might occur.

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>>182280734
if anyones wondering what happened some fag from /vp/ bot spammed the entire board with new threads and archived most of the generals including our own
was about to post a new thread myself but ty facedrag, have a gelb

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That wasn't very ace of us

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>>182281102
Now a hard question: which is the best livery: Yellow or Gelb?

what the fuck check /v/

something's definitely going on

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>>182281185
>>182280909
refer to >>182281076 and >>182281102

New thread theme coming through:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_avfMS48FY

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Wew that flood

>>182281185
>>182281102
>>182281297
Oh well nvm then what I said

>>182281271
>Go on /v/
You can't make me. Boil it down for me.

>>182281473
About 20 gorillion pokemon porn threads got spammed.

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Post things that would easily fit in an adventure game.
>>182281297
Isn't this wanker some sort of footfag too? I've heard this on /tg/, I think.
>>182281225
Yellow, even if Gelb is still top tier.

>>182281473
>>182281297
read, you doodlebug

>>182281473
/vg/ and /v/ were just hit by bot floods of pokemon and furry porn, more to probably occur soon
>>182281354
considering theres a high chance we're gonna have to fight to stay past page 5 and not get archived again by another bot flood i think this fits more
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6KResr1zfo

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INCOMING WAVE

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>>182281225
Yellow is still superior

>>182281684
I was about to balk at the idea that so much pokemon porn even existed, but then I remembered how long I've been on the internet, and I'm both ashamed at my naivety and a little relieved that I'm still capable of that much faith in humanity.

Bui has been doing this to /vp/ for over a week, and now he's spreading
wonder if that's going to get the mods to put more resources to figuring out how to stop him

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>>182281864
Tell me you're kidding

>>182281947
>the shitty of /vp/

>>182281773
Do we have to << Brace for impact >> ?>>182281864
Oh bollocks.

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>>182281864
<<Incoming from /vp/henge>>
<<CLIMB!>>

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>>182281864
<< INCOMING FROM STONEHENGE>>

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>the war 15 years ago

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>>182281947
consider all you have to do is turn off your router to get past a ban we're gonna have this quite often
>>182281905
Gelb > Yellow

I started an aviation thread on /wsg/ to link neat plane webms.
Starting with this.

http://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1499723521618.webm

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To keep conversation alive:
I'm planning on colouring a collection of drawn flankers in various schemes from the games.
This is my entire reference folder. Some paint schemes overlap in curious ways.
The "Su-35" in AC2, AC4 and AC5 are Su-27M, not actual Su-35, visually identical to Su-33 omitting the wing folding mechanisms.
What are some "must have" paint schemes for Su-27, Su-33, Su-35 and Su-37?

What's the most nimble plane?

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>>182282915

>>182282813
that pic alone is probably a months worth of porn material for Brady
anyway, Scarface, Yellow and Gelb are a few must haves i can name for the Su series

>>182283115
Put your name back on tom

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>>182283182
Actually I'm not him. Surprised he didn't show up, though.

>>182282089
Hold up is this OC?

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>>182283401
this too

some dude made posters for the holy trinity in the /vg/ general

>>182282813
Funnliy enough the Flanker with canards in Air Combat is called the Su-27, I suppose the Su-35 designation hadn't been thought up yet.

For Su-27, I think the Yuke paint scheme from 5 is bes.
For the Su-33 I'd suggest Strigon, and, of course, for Su-37 Yellow is a must-have.

Seeing as how the Su-35S didn't appear until AH, it hasn't really been in any really iconic squadrons, and I can't really think of a good livery for it.

>>182283182
Not me. Anon has a sharp taste for slavshit though.

>>182283517
...this is the /vg/ general, you are aware?

>>182283517
...this is the /vg/ general, you are aware?

>>182283527
It's likely a Su-27M, a prototype Su-35/37. The actual Su-35 don't have canards though, but before AC0 the designation was used for the Su-27M.

>>182283791
>>182283806
shit i thought i was in /v/, my bad

>>182283853
Right, Su-27M. Su-35S is the one in AH and onwards.

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>>182283939
That would be right.
What second paint scheme would you pick for each model?
Fun fact: Yuktobania, Leasath and Postler squadron all use the same livery.

>someone finally appears who knows more about flankers than brady

Top kek

>>182284450
I seriously doubt it. My knowledge is limited to visual elements. I'm avionically illiterate.

>>182284306
For the 27 I can't really think of any, and perhaps the Crimson Wing livery for the 33. And of course you have to have Gelb too.


>>182284450
>someone appears I can gush over Flankers with

In what universe is this a bad thing

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I kinda like the design of the Nosferatu. Out of all the superplanes, it's the one that looks the most believable. At least untill it brings out the railguns and the AADM.

>>182284790
most of us are
only a couple of anons and a few namefags are actually capable of holding their own when it comes to talking about planes

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>>182284887
I have a soft spot for the Su-27 osean/aurelian livery.

>gushing over flankers
I'd love to understand Flankers better, but specs are little more than numbers on paper to me, they don't feel tangible... A shame, really.

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>>182285453
Yeah, that is a shame, but you'll always be able to appreciate the superior aesthetics, and that's priceless.

As for liveries, now that I think about it, I always liked the livery on the Su-27PD, that'd be a good one to put on there.

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>>182285979
And here's the PD's livery, you've almost certainly seen it before.

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>>182285979
>Su-27PD
For some reason I love flashy test liveries but most Flanker prototype liveries aren't, with the exception of the PD. It's weird, really.
I believe this livery from AC2, enemy exclusive, is a Su-27PD one, but I never got a good enought view to see if the underbelly is red.

>>182286157
It's in AC4 (Neujmin), AC0, ACX and ACJA.

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>>182286157
i swear when it came to Zero they tried to get a bit of the Cipher skin on every plane they could
also i think this Cipher-esque S/MTD could also be a homage to the old Z.O.E skins, being a blue inversion of it

>>182286371
Why would a full midnight blue paintjob be Cipher related? It reminded me of Navy all-blue paintjobs, tbqh so maybe I'm just blinded by that.

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>>182286343
Although I rather like the subdued nature of most the the various Flankers' livery, I'm the same as you, I love good flashy liveries, which is why a Flanker decked out in Phoenix livery REALLY activates my almonds.

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>>182286590
quite a few of the schemes have at least a bit of the Cipher colours in them, with the S/MTD being dunked in it entirely over just accents of it

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>>182286735
Phoenix livery is just godly.

I'd love to see a Flanker in NASA livery, but I think I will have to do that myself.
>internal struggle over which flanker angle is superior intensifies
>don't know which test flanker is best
T-10 would be fitting, as it's an YF equivalent, but it looks fat.

>>182286371
>a homage to the old Z.O.E skins, being a blue inversion of it

Isn't it just the regular 04 version?

>>182287025
As I said in the last thread, Flanker is top tier planefu, but, IMO, the T-10 is fucking disgusting.

>>182287113
wouldnt be surprised if it was, never flew the S/MTD in 4 but i do remember the Eagle in 4 and Zero being the exact same afaik

>>182287252
It the same livery as the ACTIVE's in 4, but the 15C liveries in 0 and 4 are slightly different.

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>>182287126
I didn't agree at the time but I had only seen the schematics, which don't look that bad, but actual photos of it ruined my taste for it.
It's like a planefu manifestation of 3DPD.

>>182287345
That front angle looks almost exactly like an F-14.

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>>182287460
I have no idea which experimental Flanker would fit a NASA livery.
Have a trainer variant for the prototype of the Su-33, the Su-27KUB. The only flanker other than the Su-32/34 with side-to-side seating.

>>182287321
pretty sure when it came to the S/MTD in 4 they fucked up as they called it the ACTIVE despite having 2D thrusting and only having a single seat

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>>182287770
There was another Flanker testbed meant to break altitude records, known as the P-42, or T-10-5. It was stripped of all weapons and radar equipment to lighten it, and as such has a very barebones look to it. I think a NASA livery would fit perfectly.

>>182287798
The ACTIVE does have thrust vectoring IIRC, but it is single seat and thus SUPERIOR!

Posting my AC4 fanfic beginnings again to see if there's any interest. If not, I'll just move on to another project likely.

https://pastebin.com/NchyX6tk

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>>182288268
I heard claims that the F-15 Streak Eagle broke records, the P-42 took some away and holds them today but I have no idea what records those were.
Also, spoiler that exhibitionist flanker.

>>182288624
the active is literally the STOL/MTD with 3D thrusting shoved onto it, its still got the two seater
also its not superior it looks like its had a tube shoved up its arse and ruins its aesthetic

>>182288772
Yeah, I read it earlier and and liked it. Meant to say something earlier but I fell asleep.

Well written so far, looking forward to more.
I finished the AC0 story I was writing a bit ago, if any of you guys are interested.

>>182288772
i'll read it tomorrow and feedback
i need sleep

>>182288851
The funny thing is that there are records the F-4 still holds that neither the P-42 or streak eagle were able to break.

>>182289013

Definitely

>>182289013
Me giving the whole chapter such a short thought isn't really fair.

It's all very well written, the combat portions especially. The atmosphere is also very well developed. GG buddy.

>>182290331
>still don't know what the records are for the three of them
I need some more information on the matter.

>>182290475
I think time to altitude records were the ones that traded hands between eagle and flanker.

>>182290475
>>182288851
http://www.pw.utc.com/News/Story/20150218-0945/2015/All%20Categories

>>182290895
So it was just altitude. I thought speed was also involved. Well, it's still impressive.

>>182291062
Terrible wording. I thought that it was about cruising speed rather than climbing speed.

>>182290331
What are the F-4's unbroken records?

>>182291243
Off the top of my head the F-4 holds the absolute production record for twin jet engine military aircraft.

It also holds a production record for highest average speed around a course while flying below 40 meters AGL.

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From the twitter

>>182292387
Truly an impressive aircraft.

>>182292850
should have loved it even more if it was all the AC games instead of just 2

>>182293275
Would*

>>182293275
something like this? https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=J7w88yQVlVY

>>182294869
yep

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>>182296440

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>>182296663
>>182296816
Its by the artist who did the stealth F-104.

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>>182297037

>>182296440


What I wouldn't give to draw like this. Super jelly

>>182296440
The JSF program is getting out of hand.

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>>182297610
Just follow Scott Robertson (pbuh) on youtube.
That, and lots of practice.

What's everyone listening to right now? It's too quiet.

>>182300846
Zero on repeat 24/7

>>182300846
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVEkftO2J1s

>>182300846
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjx6GhYsAEpFlbHCvag5yJoDdoe9tJAKQ

>>182301013
You know the videos of jets flying through the canyons and valleys? Has anyone made a eurobeat version of them?

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>>182300846
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIRq94Dmjuw

>>182300846
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ag1aNHMz914

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Post planefu memorabilia.

what's this /aceg/ RPG? never heard of it

>>182303257
>All these Ph's
How many F-4's are there that still fly thunder?

>>182301415
fucking what even is that

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>>182303257
>>182304040
>flown isn't phlown

>>182280734
That PC AC knock-off is really fucking nice, shame AC7 will probably come out before it's finished

Some seriously lewd shit coming through

http://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1499723732580.webm

>>182305740
sir this is a blue board

>>182304040
That's a good question.

In the US there is a single F-4 under civilian ownership in Texas. The USAF has between 0 and 8 F-4s remaining in its inventory, despite them having been officially retired. These will mostly likely be scrapped, lent out to museums, or used for heritage flights if they haven't been scrapped already.

Iran 'operates' about 60 F-4s, but if the Toms are anything to go by only about half of those are flightworthy due to lack of parts.

Japan has about three squadrons of F-4s, ~70 aircraft total.
Turkey has about 50 F-4s.
South Korea has 70 F-4s.

Greece has maybe 1 or 2 squadrons of F-4s remaining, maybe 30-40 aircraft. Just recently they stood down a recce squadron but the ground attack ones may still be in service.

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>tfw it's more economical to scrap planes instead of selling them on the civilian market

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>>182306424
>tfw no more air races with milsurp aircraft hotrodded beyond belief
>ywn see race versions of F-16's and MiG-21's duke it out above Reno

>>182306206
That is actually a lot of planes. Are there more Phantoms than Flankers?

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>>182306206
>the Toms

cheeky sumbitch

>>182307295
Iran operates about 2 dozen F-14 Tomcats. Toms.

>>182307119
Flankers are dime a dozen, there's probably 800-1000 in the world currently, assuming they haven't been crashing faster than they usually do.

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>>182307503
>completely misinterpreted
Brb, necking myself

Why are there so many AFB's in Florida?
why is this trash peninsula so critical?

>>182308794
Gotta bomb Cuba from somewhere I guess.

>>182308794
NASA

Is there a recommended order of doing AC3 routes in? I did UPEO first and General-Ourobouros second and both felt unrewarding and while I can see what the game is trying to do with these, it's just not quite feeling right.

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>>182309371
Yes it goes Neucom>Neucom>Neucom.

>>182307594
Fun fact, they call Iranian Tomcats Ali Cats.

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>>182309676

>Replay AC5
>first mission on the Kestrel
>try to pick F-2A
>"you must pick a carrier based plane"

Fuck this game.

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rip

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Did someone order, a pixy with 50mm of fuck PJ?

>>182312882
Carriers... how do they work

>>182312882
Were the F-2s ever operated off of the japanese not-carriers?

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>>182318489
If they could, then they wouldn't be not-carriers now would they?

The japanese DDH aren't long enough for the F-2 to take off/land on. Hell, their decks aren't even heat treated to withstand the thrust from the F-35's VTOL. They're purely helicopter carriers, or guided missile destroyers with a really big helicopter deck.

>>182318489
Wikipedia doesn't mention anything about carriers on the F-2 page.

>>182318489
Considering the F-2 is literally a fatter F-16, I'd doubt the aircraft's carrier capability

>10

Hey /aceg/ should I buy a ps4?

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>>182325116
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>182325337
Is that a yes or no?

>>182303302
What is says on the tin pretty much: a RPG that takes place in Strangereal where you play as a pilot flying for one of the many nations.
Thunderceptor is the mastermind behind it all.

>>182327390
is it based on the old planes and mercs stuff, or was that just a different plane RPG

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>9

>>182288772
Bretty gud. I'm eager to see more

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Post superweapons.

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>>182331012

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Post cute planes doing cute stuff

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>>182333698

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>>182333698
>HEY GUYS INVERTED FLYING
>fantasma plz

Fresh OC! It's a little unpolished, but whatever.

https://youtu.be/imLc_E1TBs4

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Did we ever endeavor to spec up the Aigaion?
I was wondering if anyone determined it's dimensions, it's mass, the amount of thrust the engines would theorically need, the size of it's fighter contingent.
No need to actually contrive a way to make it "practical", just what we can estimate.

>>182335570
I would not want to be the guy in charge of coordinating all those tankers at once.

>>182335660
considering a large whale is probably smaller than its fuel tank, it's likely theres a dozen or so more tankers waiting to further fill it up
imagine how long that shit will take to organize and coordinate

>>182335570
>>182336082
oh yeah, forgot to add that there was some some specs for the Aigaion on the official AC6 website
Beam: 963.77m
Length: 433.3m
Height: 102.39m

>>182335102
Now do the other games. Don't though, you'll run out of ammo every mission

>>182336082
I wouldn't be much more complicated than the Falkland bombing's refuelling plan.

>>182336284
Now we need to calculate volume and get an estimate of it's density to calculate the mass.
Afterwards we need to get a ballpark value for the thrust-to-mass ratio of large aircraft, estimate the maximum load weight (airframe, fuel, max weight of a full aircraft compliment, transport helicopters, crew, misc cargo) and the thrust we need, divide that by the amount of engines (24) and we got some neat specs.

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>>182336771
>forgot pic

>>182336864
"There's has to be a better way!"

>>182336379
Well, 4 has the recovery line.

5 I can see being stupidly restrictive on ammo.

Zero is definitely doable.

Six has reloading in it too.

However, I can't record any of them because

>no magic recording box
>shitty laptop

>>182336771
if anyones actually got the game like val then im sure they could calculate its speed
after that we can figure out how much a KC-10 Extender holds to refuel other craft which would give us info on how much its take hold as it would just be that times 6

>>182337249
I in fact went to play the mission after I posted the refuelling plan for the Vulcan.
How would one go about calculating the speed? I remember matching speed with the Gleipnir to abuse FAEB, but getting to the Aigaion in an A-10 is painful. And I don't know which aircraft would be able to slow down enough and stay stable at those speeds.

>>182337580
I have never played 6, but if there's a Terminator that'd work. Those tend to not stall out very quickly.

>>182337580
terminator should work, just sit behind or below it and try to see what speed its flies at
high chance it'll be the normal auto pilot speed

>>182337650
>>182337774
Su-37 isn't in 6. Honestly I would think the Stealth Dorito would be the best one for going slow.

>>182337838
fug
invsaplane is miserably slow like the Aigaion so it should work better thinking about it

>>182337650
>>182337774
I'll try the Su-33 then, the only Flanker in the game. Also my planefu (actually all Flankers, can't pick a favourite).
At any rate, the KC-10 has a fuel capacity of 356,000 lb (161 480 kg), so we can estimate upwards of 2,136,000 lb (968 880 kb) of fuel.
Around what point do aircraft get their refueling? When they have only a fifth of their max fuel remaining? That would be important, as the capacity would become 2,563,200 lb (1 162 656 kg).

>>182337971
i meant as in how much fuel do they hold thats used in refueling, not the actual KC-10's tank itself unless its a shared tank

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>>182337971
>Also my planefu (actually all Flankers, can't pick a favourite).

<< I like you, man! >>
Best Flanker coming through

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>>182338045
I've been lead to believe it's shared. I won't be checking that for some time, I'm going to check the mission.
Also, for some reason the loaded weight of the KC-10 is superior to the maximum takeoff weight. Could anyone explain this to me? Mid air refueling tank refueling?

>>182338092
Did you like that spoiler screencap yesterday?
I seriously have no idea how to pic a best flanker. They're all so good.

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>>182338220
*that folder screencap
Lapsus. I know in my heart it's an aeromantic porn stash.

>>182338337
Upload that shit to a Mega my dude
I need it for scientific purposes

>>182338415
They're just screecaps of the hangar, quite a few taken from the wiki, unfortunately.

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I KEEP FAILING AT MISSION "BLIND SPOT" IN AC5

I'M NOT EVEN FALLING FOR THE "FAKE RADAR LOCK-ON" CRAP, I'M TAKING DOWN ENEMY PLANE AFTER PLANE YET BEFORE THE TIMER EVEN RUNS OUT THE GAME TELLS ME I FAILED ONE OR TWO FUCKING CARGO PLANES GET AWAY

I'VE REDONE FUCKING SHITMISSION AT LEAST 70 TIMES REEEEEE

"HEY DO YOU RIKE THIS GUITAR SONG?"
"HEY DO YOU RIKE THIS GUITAR SONG?"
"HEY DO YOU RIKE THIS GUITAR SONG?"

FUCK YOU CHOPPER GO DO WROK INSTEAD OF TALK

>>182338576
Literally fly to the e767, the source of the jamming, then kill it, then fly to sea goblin and babysit them.

>>182338576
get Chopper and Grimm to disperse, then go straight to the jammer to shoot it down and focus on getting to Nagase asap
after that, have Chopper and Grimm focus on attacking and fly straight to Sea Goblin to protect them from ground targets while your wingmen focus on diverting away aircraft

>>182338576
Stop being bad I guess, that mission isn't even hard. Just shoot the E-767's first.

>>182338725
You're thinking of a different mission.

>>182338725
That mission 15 you're thinking of, mission 10 is the one where the Yuke military is retreating and it's up to you to shoot down their cargo planes.

<< A Yuke technical college has been bombed near your location! You're sure you didn't this? >>

>>182338825
>>182338834
Oops, sorry 'bout the wrong mission.

>>182338834
<<No.>>

>>182338880
All good m80.

I'd also like to state for the record that White Noise is the shittiest mission in AC5, not Four Horsemen.

>>182338834
mission 10, right
then the best thing is to go straight upward to take out the jammer and then focus on the remaining aircraft over ignoring it
<< YES. >>

>pulling off a sweet move you just know is gonna look boss in the vector replay during debrief.

Aw yeah

>>182335102
>the fucking puns

Good playthrough though.

>>182337774
Ok, the Aigaion flies at 310 km/h and holds ten aircraft.

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Best livery coming through

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>>182342186
BETTER LIVERY RIGHT HERE

>>182342161
Also, an invisible barrier prevents you from shooting down Strigon members as they take off from the inside of the landing area. It only collides with missiles.

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>>182342229
<< No. >>

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>>182342186
>>182342229
You're both wrong.

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>>182342947

>>182342947
>posting mountains
Now you're just shitposting.

>>182343090
Yo brady, if you want to see alect done on ace with only guns, go to
>>182335102
at 23:12

>>182343472
>he actually did it

Absolute madman/10
Good video though, funny shit

>>182335102
Nice vid, actually laughed at those puns.

>>182344140
I was really fishing with some of those
>>182343737
Man, I wish I could emulate/record other AC games.

>>182344271
Very ZeroLenny-esque.

>>182344934
Yup! Especially the intro. Though I guess they're all ripped off from that old ass morrowind one

https://youtu.be/zyLFHqmUH_4

>>182325116
If you are interested at the exclusives, yeah, why not.
Uncharted 4 really made it worth for me.

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>>182345785
>Uncharted 4
>Not Bloodborne
>Gravity Rush
>Yakuza 0
>Yakuza Ishin
>Horizon Zero Dawn
>Ace Combat VR
>

Alright I'm confused now. Does the SU-35 have canards or not? On google images it shows both with and without canards.

>>182346074
Th version with canards is the Su-35s prototype, the Su-27M. The version that entered production has no canards, and is the Su-35S. That's the one from AH onwards.

The canards were eliminated because the introduction of TVC made them redundant.

>>182346074
The versions with canards are the prototypes (depicted in AC2, AC4 and AC5 under the designation Su-35) and the Su-37, which is a technology demonstrator for the Su-35S, which doesn't have canards either.

>>182346151
Very well Tom. Thanks
of course you know this

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>>182346242
>forget schematics
>>182346151
It's a shame, it's an good looking redundancy.

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>>182346151
thanks. have some porn for your folder

>>182346629
That's either a mainline Su-30 derivate or a Su-30MKI derivate. Can't tell due to out of frame details.
Can't say I recognize the livery either.

>>182346765
I meant a Su-30MKK. Still get Indian model derivates and Chinese model derivates mixed up.

>>182346765
>>182346860
It's an Su-30MKV of the Venezuelan Air Force.

>>182346917
Neat. How could you tell?

>>182346765
I'm pretty sure that it is an Su-27. Look at the 'sting' on the back end.

>>182346993
there is an Venezuelan flag on the vertical stabilizer lol

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>>182346993
Su-30MKV is the only Flanker that serves in that air force.

>>182347008
27 and 30 have the same tail stinger.

>>182347008
The high canopy indicates it's a double seater, so unless it's a Su-27UB, it has to be a Su-30. It lack canards, so it can't be a Su-30MKI derivate (MKA, MKM, SM and SME).

As Tom pointed out >>182346917, it's a Su-30MKV, a Su-30MKK derivate. They can be told apart from mainline Su-30 derivates by the straight, Su-37-like, upper edge of their vertical stabilizer.

>>182347118
>>182347189
>can't into non-european flags
I'm ashamed at my lack of nationality recognition skills.

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Here's my finished Flanker identification chart, as far as visual details are concerned. Hopefully it will be of use to any who have a taste for this peculiar flavour of slavshit.

Number of seats?
>Single Seater: Canards?
->Yes: Angle of the upper edge of the vertical fins?
-->Slanted: Wing hinges and/or landing hook?
--->Yes: Su-33
--->No: Su-27M
-->Straight: Su-37
->No: Position of IRST?
-->Centered: Su-27
-->Off-center: Su-35

>Two Seater: Seat configuration?
->Side by side: Radome shape? (Alt: Strakes?)
-->Flattened: Su-32/34 (Alt: No)
-->Normal: Su-27KUB (Alt: Yes)
->Standard: Trainer? (Training hood mount in canopy)
-->Yes: Su-27UB
-->No: Canards?
--->Yes: Su-30MKI
--->No: Angle of upper V-Stabilizer edge?
---->Angled: Su-30
---->Straight: Su-30MKK

>>182338576
How can someone be so bad as to not be able to pass ace combat missions?

>>182347913
Looks good m80

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>>182348275
For comparison's sake, the Eagle's is much shorter:

Number of seats?
>Single seater: Conformal fuel tanks?
->Yes: F-15C
->No: Symmetrical V-stabilizer antenas?
-->Yes: F-15A/C
-->No: F-15J
>Two seater: Conformal fuel tanks?
->Yes: F-15E
->No: Symmetrical V-stabilizer antenas?
-->Yes: F-15B/D
-->No: F-15DJ

As with the previous chart, any variants not listed are avionics variations of one of the listed models.
As far as I can tell, CFT weren't fitted on F-15A or trainers (B, D and DJ) except during testing, where they were fitted on an F-15B.

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>>182348709
Fuck, I messed up. Assymetrical antenas are exclusive to american models. Export variants of both the F-15A/C and F-15E have symmetrical ones.
I just noticed the difference in the japanese models and misremembered it while looking at export F-15Es. My bad.

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>>182348903
>streak eagle has symmetrical antenas to save weight
Fuck me sideways, it's blunder after blunder.
In this one we can see the antenas on both the F-15C and the F-15E.

>>182335102
Is warcrimes ok now?

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>>182335102
What the fuck did I just watch and why do I feel so shit at AC now?

>>182350613
Warcrimes went and did the concentrated autism thing again

>>182349060
F-15SA has two wing hardpoints, not just 1.

>>182335102
>Not calling it the Ace Combat eXperience

>>182352064
That's due to the fly-by-wire system integration, iirc.

>>182348709
Try doing one for the F-16 or F-4. Those two have enough variants to put the flanker to shame.

>>182354003
Note that I only listed visually differentiable variants and skipped quite a few prototypes. I didn't count paper-only models either.
From memory I'd say there aren't that many visually distinct variants for the F-16, but I'll look into that too.
For the F-4 Thunderceptor is your go-to ressource.

>>182354997
No thanks, there's a shitton of F-4 variants and a lot of them are distinguished externally by fiddly shit like antennae or the number of bolts on the landing gear wheel.

>>182352251
Missed opportunity. Maybe I'll change it later.
>>182350613
Hopefully making people hate me less, kek.

>>182356159
>Hopefully making people hate me less
I may be out of the loop on this one, why do people hate you?

>>182355654
I think we can reasonably group them with the variants that are identical outside of said fiddly shit, even if it's a simplification.
Overall, panelling, number of bolts and wheel cover shape (the main difference between F-15A and F-15C) aren't differences I take into account. I also ommit antenas unless they're noticeble like those on the export F-15 models.

>>182356590
Warcrimes had a bad habit of explicit homoposting back when he used to post with his name on.

>>182356590
What >>182356651 said.

>>182354997
From memory, based on external visual differences you have 2 versions F-16A, 1 F-16B, at least 2 versions of the F-16C, at least 1 version of the F-16D, 2 versions of the F-16E/F

>>182356794
Wait fuck

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There better not be any Belkans in AC7

Post your favorite boss mission track
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ChH1dpy-XI&list=PLLrug9JZTq63UuD5dVQii2SUgCqyjYDyv&index=17

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>>182357613
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80XAJKqRU9k

>>182335102
>super hornet
>planefu

Sorry, but the diagnosis came back; your shit taste is terminal.

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>>182358010
Performance wise, how does the Super Bug stack up to modern Flankers?

Have some BRRRRRT

http://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1499794043664.webm

>>182357790
The spanish guitar followed by the choir at 2:55 is wonderful. You'd think at first it would be jarring to hear but it flows together really well. I wonder if the same composer is working on AC7.

>>182360168
keiki kobayashi is working on AC7.

since the A-10 is confirmed for AC7 and we are getting some crazy new special weapons, what kind of loadouts could we see?
>4 tls at once

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>>182360392
>>4 tls at once
>they can all indepently lock on and target multiple different targets at the same time

>>182359203

Max speed at altitude:
>Su-35: 1490 mph
>F-18E: 1190 mph

Range:
>Su-35: 850 nmi
>F-18E: 1275 nmi

Service Ceiling:
>Su-35: 59,100 ft
>F-18E: 49.213 ft

Rate Of Climb:
>Su-35: 55,100 ft/min
>F-18E: 44,882 ft/min

Thrust-to-weight ratio with 3.505 tons of fuel and weapons
>Su-35: 1.30
>F-18E: 1.11

>>182360624
Do all flankers have ultra short legs?

>>182360624
And then you realize a single US carrier has as many superbugs as Su-35s exist.

>>182361196
Almost all russian fighters have short legs.
the basic bitch MiG-29 had a 600 square mile flight radius

>>182361310
shaddap

>>182360624
Are those ranges at maximum possible fuel load or no drop tanks or what?

>>182360624
Also that range seems wrong. There's no way the super hornet has a longer range than a flanker unless it's carrying 3 bags.

>>182361829
>>182362873
I believe I had the data wrong, the Su-35's range is 2,200 miles at %100 fuel and 2069

I'm posting from a plane flingor right now, how cool is that?

>>182363032
The fuck is a plane flingor

>>182363032
Flying*

>>182363032
Depends how cool the plane is.

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>>182363032
>plane flingor

>>182363013
Whoops, wrong name

>>182363013
You got the nametag wrong, Tom.

>>182363013
*And the Super Hornet's range is 2069 miles.

>>182335102
Yo thread, if I get an elgato or something, and record a version of this for 4, 5, and Zero, what planes should I fly in each?

>>182366180
box-art canon craft only.

>>182366180
The canon planes:
F-22 in 4
F-14A in 5
F-117 in Zero

>>182366519
Now hold on one second

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Why are soviet planes so goddamn astonishing and aesthetic?

>>182367319
I know right? Those loss ratios are really astonishing.

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>coffin.jpg

>>182357561
>story written by the guy who wrote AC5
belkans will be the true villains

>10

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Flying sex coming through

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>>182357790
no matter what anyone says, for me Zero will always be the pinnacle of Ace Combat as a whole and for me the soundtrack named after the game itself, Zero, will always be the perfect example why

>>182363032
I'm landing boys

>>182366397
>>182366519
Huh. I was expecting more shitplanes. You sure you want to make it that easy?

>>182374579
it's still guns only on the hardest difficulty, right?

>>182376145
Yeah, but Ace Combat is not a hard series. Even the shitplanes are competitive.

>>182377045
Some missions are barely possible in some aircraft. Try the launch site protection mission from AC5 in an A-6E. It's hell.

>>182377549

I did it in an F5.

>>182378601
If memory serves, the F-5 is an improvement compared to the A-6E.

I guess in the interim I'll attempt mission X with guns only in the A-6. But if it falls through I'll go back to the phabulous phlying phantom.

Can you get any more TRUE ACE than guns only, cockpit view, Mission X, ace, A-6? I really can't think of many tougher missions besides -maybe- The Gauntlet.

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>>182367462
D E L E T
E
L
E
T

>>182380112
The Russians are pretty similiar to the zeeks now that I think about it

>>182379697
trying to S rank the entirety of Zero on Ace in a single day to get that decorated hanger in F-15C only
thats proof youre the master of every ace style and thus a true ace

>>182380231
Except they didn't drop hijacked colonies on Washington DC or the Pentagon.
Nor, afaik, did they do flashy impractical aircraft for lulz.
>zakrello
I wonder what's the aircraft equivalent of the """""mightiest weapon of the one year war""""" t. Tomino.

>>182380591
So. From a fresh save file, 3 full runs

1st soldier, on Hard, and on all the alternate missions pick A

2nd knight, on Expert, mission B

3rd mercenary, on Ace, picking all mission C

Doesn't seem that bad.

>>182380981
you misread
>S rank the entirety of Zero on Ace in a single day in F-15C only
cockpit is optional

>>182380705
>Nor, afaik, did they do flashy impractical aircraft for lulz.
something something Su-37, Su-47, PAK FA

>>182380705
>there's not a blond Russian ace that flies a salmon pink Flanker that's 3x faster than a normal Flanker

Sucks big time.

>>182381509
Delet, ree, etc.

>>182381601
Isn't that a manga with a red MiG? It was mentioned a couple threads back, iirc.
This gets my creative juices flowing though.
What's the MS-05 Zaku and the MS-06 Zaku II of Ace Combat? The MS-14 Gelgoog is definitely the Su-37, I think.

Any of you buddies know how to speak Korean? I could use your help with something. There might be free patches in it for you.

>>182381601
is someone saying mean things about your flanker tom?

>>182381791
What countrys' planes are we talking about?

If America, then the MS-05 Is probably the F-4 and the 06 the F-15. If Russia, then MiG-21 for Zaku I and Su-27 for Zaku II.

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Remember to have a moment of silence for the KC-130 that went down in Mississipi today, guys.

15 marines and one Navy corpsman lost.

>>182382248
>Today
Er, Monday, that is.

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>>182382248

>>182382248
RIP
At least the thread edition is just right

>>182382138
I was following the line of thought of that other anon that compared the URSS to the Principality of Zeon.
It's like he doesn't see the NOBLE GOAL of the GLORIOUS SPACENOID LIBERATION.

>>182382248
they know what caused the crash yet?
heard it may of been due to incorrectly loaded equipment/guns

>>182382489
I haven't seen any confirmation yet but they're super thorough about this sort of thing. If it takes a while to hear back about it it's only because they want to be absolutely sure.

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>>182382481
Against the EVIL imperialist We-I mean Earth Federation.

>>182382576
considering they lost over half a dozen Special Forces i wouldnt be surprised if theyre somewhat hush about everything

>>182382737
marines aren't special forces
maybe sped forces though ;^)

>>182382887
the marines were MARSOC

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>>182382642
Are there more Gundam UC fans here than I thought?

>>182382138
Anyways, going back to the "no blonde russian ace", we've got a blonde erusean ace, that's something. You did compare him to Char in the past iirc.

>>182383067
I've been watching Gundam since I was little. Of all the fictional universes I know of, I only like Ace Combat's more. The Universal Century is one of the coolest settings ever conceived.

Also yeah, the parallels between 13 and Mobius 1 and Char and Amuro still stands out to me.

>>182383319
I dunno man Char was way more of a dick. 13 was just a soldier doing his job.

>>182383319
never watched Gundam but isnt Pixy supposedly a Char Clone?

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>>182383319
Amongst /m/ related (the actual definition of that) settings, I like Ace Combat the most. Followed by, in no particular order, Universal Century, After War (my favourite Gundam series, tbqh), Macross, Muv-Luv, Patlabor, Full Metal Panic, Seikai (Crest of the Stars, an awesome space opera) and Front Mission.
I really like Armored Core as a game, but the setting is really poor. I liked the third and fourth gens the most setting-wise, but there isn't much about it.
There's a lot of other series I love, but their setting isn't as developped as I'd like such as Nadesico, Outlaw Star

>>182383398
Char was a man with ambitions beyond obeying his superiors or being the best pilot he could be.

>>182383687
Pixy? A Char?
He could be compared to Master Asia in the "More experienced ally switches side to pursue an utopia by forceful means", but other than Char's change from "good guy" during his AEUG days to "must drop Axis on Earth because earthnoid souls are chained by gravity", I don't see a similitude.

>>182383687
Not really. I suppose AWWNB could be compared with Neo Zeon, in that they were both willing to use rediculously violent measures to force the world to change, but I think the similarities end there. A big part of Char's character is that for most of his life, he's driven by revenge and as such, is willing to resort to highly violent and immoral actions to see to that revenge. As cool as Char was, even I'll admit that on countless occasions, he could be a vindictive, manipulative bastard, lying and sabotaging i.e. Garma if it meant meeting his goals. Now, that isn't to say he's all bad, in Zeta he's pretty amiable. Basically if your views align with Char's, you're fine. I believe Pixy wasn't as violent as Char, Yes, i know he wanted to nuke the entire planet and he truly seemed to harbor no ill will toward Cipher, even though they fought.

>>182384303
>>182384356
i heard the similarities were more based on him being a blonde haired, blue eyed ace with a red styled vehicle that holds a reputation prior to the main protagonist getting one but is a close ally before defecting and attempting to perform total destruction of the world

>>182384356
When Pixy tells Cipher they're two sides of the same coin, it reveals he's basically set everything up to a coin toss; the winner being the side of the coin that lands facing up.

My point being that the possibility that Cipher could win was part of his plan; a possibility that would show that maybe his way wasn't the best after all. That's why when we meet him on the ground he's reconsidering everything, starting over from scratch.

I always found that an interesting insight.

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T-thanks

>>182384735
Sure, in a superficial way, they're similar characters.

>>182384735
>pixy has blue eyes
I'VE BEEN BLIND FOR YEARS
Char didn't start out as an ally outside of Zeta, and he doesn't betray his allies during the course of that series.

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>>182384816
>The exception Integer division by zero.
>by zero.
>zero

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>>182384816
>PS1 emulators that aren't mednafen's Beetle-PSX core

>>182384993
Not everyone can get that one working.

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>>182384303
Yeah, Macross is one of my favourites too.

>>182384993
>PS1 emulators

>>182384801
ive only heard it been spoken about once but i sorta think its implied Pixy was actually seeking to have Cipher shoot him down over wanting to take down Cipher
Pixy could of easily just turned around and continued the cat and mouse after activating his ECM which would completely ruin the players chance of stopping V2 but actually let Cipher be able to attack his weak point
He also mentions several times in somewhat taunting fashion for Cipher to shoot him down, with one that stands out to me being "It's the only way, you gotta fight for what you believe in." or something along those lines, which speaks to me that Pixy wanted to be proven wrong and taken down by Cipher
just some rambles and ideas, but speak of it as you wil

>>182384993
never tried mednafen, is it any good? ive been using Xebra as it runs everything fine

>>182385502
Mednafen is good, but can't say how it compares to Xebra as I never used that one.
It requires a bit of handling to set up the controls, but apart from that it worked perfectly for me.
As long as you don't have problems with Xebra there shouldn't be any reason to switch emulator, if not for the libretro core of Mednafen that supports better renderers or something like that iirc.

>>182385845
ive only got two gripes with Xebra, one is that theres no way to get a DirectX plugin for it as ive been wanting to stream AC2 and AC3 for a while and OBS needs it as a backend, but i think thats a problem with PSX emulators across the board as it wasnt designed to be able to use DirectX
my other is that trying to sort the controls out was horrific if it werent for getting a layout to set them and to this day ive never been able to get the sticks to work

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>>182384993
This is one of those apparently super amazing things where the dev was too lazy to include a GUI right?
No thanks

Anyway, got it working, time to experience the best AC again

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Which fictional Ace Combat Aircraft would like to see and pilot in real life?
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>>182387908
Fenrir, Shinden, Delphinus.