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Tier 0 Edition

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Old: >>182197408
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What the fuck just happened to vg
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>>182279684
Some mod went rogue.
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what the fuck happened with all these pokemon porn breads
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What the hell just happened? We didn't even hit 750 replies last thread and instantly went from page 3 to archived.
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Nuke the pokemonfag with roaches.
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>Gwent was active enough to survive the spam
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>>182279684
wasn't on page 3? fucking hell
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>>182279583 (Cross-thread)
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>>182279786
Some furry faggot decided to "raid" vg, it's like pissing in the sea. So a lot of threads got archived.
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>>182279756
Nah
Some pokemon furfag spammed the board with threads
Somehow managed to bypass the spam detection
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Man I love this new infinite removal deck shadow players are playing! So fun!
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https://twitter.com/shadowversegame/status/884525149210513409
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>>182279974
>Nep
>New
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can I get a concede?

48075
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>>182280042
The same everyone else did intern-kun
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>>182280042
Poor intern-kun, being forced to shill neutralverse. I hope he can get a new job after cygames closes down sv.
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JUST HIT THE JACK POT LADS!
Can't wait until it's usable again. The water effects look really good.
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This weeks tournament's strawpolls.
http://www.strawpoll.me/13403520
http://www.strawpoll.me/13403533
Tournament will be run through Challonge this time.
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>>182279974
Can't remove Aegis :^)
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40737
Passing to finish achievement
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>>182280352
They'll just remove Eris before that's ever an issue
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Praise Tenko.
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So why there's no external page to keep track of your shit?
Or an official one so we can have real data and not self reported data like others games do
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>>182279521
Cute, CUTE!
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>>182280042
kek
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If blood is so good now then why am I still losing to Eacter and Cerb?
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>>182280594
Kill yourself, shadownigger.
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Anybody have a neutral rune deck for dailies?
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>>182280304
Its decently usable now.
Wards are out of favor thanks to "OH MY 8 FACE DAMAGE REGARDLESS"
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>>182280308
>tfw can't participate on either of the times
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How much draw power a deck need?
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>>182280578
she looks kinda squished there
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98257
Playing a kys blood for achievement. Come and kick me in the balls
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>>182280042
You guys are such meanies
Intern-kun did nothing wrong
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>>182280819
SLUT
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>>182280706
>Alice and the neutral crew
>maybe witch of sweets for draw
>Falise for free removal, free evos and storm damage
>mutagenic for spawn

Not that hard.
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>>182280706
>Its decently usable now
If you like getting shit on because you didn't draw ETA in time, yeah.
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>>182280723
Depends
Post your deck and the "strategy" behind it, if you want advice on how to improve it
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>>182281095
You could argue that about any deck running something outside of Alice, neutrals, and spawn though.
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>>182280716
Sorry. Seems to be impossible to get one size fits all. Maybe next time
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HALFWAY TO GM BOYS
N-Blood with Phantom Cat and Spawn is the best.
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>>182280770
It was a lucky screenshot.
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>>182280578
How did you beat the worst craft in the game?
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>was on /v/
>same spam shit happened
a good night to be a Mod uh?
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>>182281336
Can you share your deck with a A3 shitter? I don't want to play spawn.
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>>182280578
Oh you beat forest, what an amazing deck you must have.
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>Play baphomet
>Enemy readies for spawn, phantom cat, MAYBE carbosse
>Instead it's fucking mastema
>Nobody has any clue on how to deal with her
>I have only 9 neutrals in my deck
>Yet I'm playing 3 toves anyway because people just go full fucking tunnel vision on them
>Only have dark general as vengeance user
>People avoid putting me on vengeance anyway
>Most of my lethals are thanks to flowerbed
Holy shit memeing this hard is so fun
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>>182280578
Tenko's manko!
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>>182281756
Puffy vulva
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>>182281756
Good fucking lord anon
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>>182281756
Source?
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>>182280308
>tfw gonna be at evo
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>>182281731
https://twitter.com/re_ne_kuroi/status/884498559638351874

If you don't want to play Spawn, then use another Hector and Gruff.
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>>182281756
did someone server her ass and flip it over?
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>>182281731
>goblins/feria/lyrial/alice
>tove because LMAO 3/3 with 'drawback'
>phantomcat
>spawn
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>>182281756
Why is there steam coming out of her anus?
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>>182280819
Thnak you cinderella. You check? I swear I saw that flag before.
1/10
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>>182281756

it almost looks like her upper and lower body are detached, like those legs and puffy vulva belong to Eris instead
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>>182281756
good sniff
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>>182282143
fuck off hagfag
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>>182281972
https://twitter.com/gizieizan/status/882946469321420800
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>>182280819
Were you the one from the other thread?
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>>182280042
>card spotlight: this kills the game
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>>182282195
No, I think there's more anons doing the same.
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>>182281756
>deleted
>can only appreciate the thumbnail
there is only suffering in this world
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>>182282023
Sorry man. I didn't know it was on. Seems there's alot of events happening around this time.
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>>182280042
I just picture the person who posts with that SV account as an oblivious rowen who just tweets random things when he thinks of them.
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>>182282306
Just grab it from the archives, summerfriend.
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Why is every sword player such a monkey?
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>>182282524
>going to the archives just for some lewd pic
nah
just let me whine about it
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>>182282394
I miss his fanfics about leaders fighting.
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Spawn maintenance when?
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>>182282305
Thank you Oz of smugness
2/10, gonna call it a night because fuck my eyes hurt.
Sleep tight you anons, balance will come.
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>>182282663
>needing to go to the archive
>not having 4chanx or some other userscript installed
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>>182282780
Should have let him whine.
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>>182282780
OH GOD MY DICK
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Wow, this meta is actually worse than it looks. Its badness can't even be put into words. D rank players are identical to grandmasters.
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>>182282781
>please understand
>the card "spawn of the abyss" had a mistrranslation
>now added the line" Vengeance: Gain storm"
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>>182281765
>Nobody has any clue on how to deal with her
>A turn 5 literal do nothing that can't even evo and trade into something that turn
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>>182282780

is that bottom half Eris' while held against her will while top half Luna laughs her ass off? Is this an optical illusion?
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>>182282976
>installing shit for a prehistoric chinese cartoon board
lmao
>>182282780
thanks I guess
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>>182283128
That's the funny thing.
They can't deal with a turn 5 literal do nothing that can't even evo trade into something that turn.
Masters are so dumb it's so fun bullying them!
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>>182283168
You ruined it.
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>realize ive ate raw blood before (duck)
>and in a porridge soup has pig blood
>Urias looks like my father

I may be a vampire...
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>>182283072
I-I have way more experience than D rank shitters!
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How to buff forest without giving them too much:
either of these options would be nice
1.Give them the ability to decide between enhance abilities. So if you have the required PP for the enhanced ability you can choose to not use it but rather the lesser effect so you can continue your combo.
2.Returned enemy followers lose their fanfare ability.Might be too strong so an option here would be buffed hp/attack or both on the returned follower.
3.Forest cards that can destroy amulets banish them instead.
4.Forest cards that can destroy followers banish them instead.
5.Forest has a +1 board space exclusively for amulets and/or followers who get banished at the end of the turn.
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>>182283006
>announcing reports
enjoy your warning anon
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>>182283605
>Implying he actually reported him
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>>182283393
discord?
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>>182283557
are most of those blood games spawn or did you climb with dragon?
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>>182283557
>i climbed with neutral blood
haha nice job
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>>182283767
I bet he climbed with Dragon last expansion and then climbed with Blood to GM.
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>>182283767
Some are, most aren't
>did you climb with dragon
I fucking wish anon
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>be me
>spent 30000 vials to build an shit dragon deck
>could have spend way less to build a fun earthrite deck
I deserve what's happening to me right?
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>>182283816
>10k MP with 108 blood wins
Over 90% winrate
Not bad
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Holy bowman of face damage is not balanced, but the meta doesn't even notice him.
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Why does my losing streak always start when I'm about to rank up? I hate this fucking game so much.
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>>182283569
Forest just need ways to utilize fairies, bounce and play cards mechaic much better.

For fairies, they should be resources. Thorn burst and fencer were right direction. Fairy trait should be added to cards so cards like fairy driver will be more useful instead of just praying for epm to vomit 0 pp fairies.
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Did every GM climb up there with neutral Blood?
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What would you want more,

a Granblue Fantasy-themed expansion

or an iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls expansion?
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>>182285371
We already share characters with GBF. Give us idols.
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>>182285371
Baha anime expansion.
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>>182285371
CG if Ranko tells me to kill myself.
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>>182285371
A RoB the anime themed expansion
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>>182285557
NEVER EVER
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>>182283767
I believe it's easier to climb to grand master with dshift than dragon.
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>>182285557
Sofiel when?
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>>182285371
Do you even need to ask
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>>182285371
>Sachikocraft becomes the next cancer
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Can somebody give me an Elana list?
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>>182285371
Idolcraft.
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>>182285736
No kill yourself
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>>182284747
Yes that would be the ideal but i don't think cygames will do that.
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>>182285371
GBF as long as we get leaders.
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>>182285814
That's a cute boy
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>>182285371
An Love live one
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98013

I need a concede.
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>>182285814
The mushroom girl
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Why do people defend spawn anyway? It doesn't utilize class gimmick, unlike Aegis, it comes so early for an equivalent 6 or 8 storm damage while stomping anything it front of it. It can't be removed safely other than 2 class.
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>>182285819
No I want to heal myself.
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>>182285369
91% of them.
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>>182285983
Thanks!
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>go second
>concede
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>play shadowverse
>concede
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>People complained about removalverse
>Cygames released cards that are a pain in the ass to remove
>People cry about not being able to remove everything
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>>182285371
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Eris is cute, CUTE!
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>>182285371
Cinderella Girls is fucking gay give me the og squad
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>>182286352
>deviantart tier picture
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>>182286438
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>BeGOOOONE
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>>182286339
I'll never understand "Removalverse". Removal has never been very strong in this game.
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>>182286438
Did you just insult 4chan's mascot?
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>>182286871
this guy's an idiot
>>182286339
people aren't crying about not being able to remove everything, they're crying about not being able to remove anything
the neutral crew has too many must-kill targets that get themselves pushed out of multi-target removal range by Alice
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I have two Dragonsong Flutes and three Lord of Flies, are they any good? I've won once or twice with flute, and like once with lof
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>>182286871
If you want something to die it will die in this game not only because of the removals but also because of the evolve and that's why cards that do nothing the turn they are played if played on curve, like Minthe or the likes will never be strong because if the opponent has a brain will kill it. Now Blood going first and always playing his shit on curve is worse than Catacomb prenerf and his infinite skelly because it kills you before you can do shit
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What's the pick here?
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>>182287471
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Luna is the official mascot of /svg/.
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>>182286871
every class that matters runs at least x3 2PP Removal and evolves exist.
something that needs to live a turn to be good will never be good unless it some bullshit like 2PP 4 health.
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>>182287636
Yes
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>>182286339
I'm crying about losing on t4 because the adversary goes first and alice his board.
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>>182287636
the one with the cute girl
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>>182287636
Either one is good but I'd go right because Alex is board clear while Zeus is a wincon, Paladin is also kind of unfair during evo stages if you opponent doesn't have removal.
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What are the most useful legendaries to craft this expansion?
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>>182287913
Alice and Spawn by far
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>>182287913
Spawn and Alice.
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>>182286871
They are just retards that get mad because they can't just vomit their hand and go face
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>>182287913
alice and spawn, but i think baphomet will be nerfed so spawn wont work at this level for all the expansion
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I want to cum on Eris's holy pantyhose
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>>182281765
Post dick, I want to bait them with Cutestema
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>>182287913
Alice is 3x in the good decks right now so it's a 100% safe craft
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>>182287913
Havens snow girl 2pp legendary is pretty good aswell and I consider her a safe craft
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>>182287913
yuruis
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>>182287637
smug animes are not helpful, I'm getting into the game
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>>182287913

Alice, Spawn, Snow White. B&B is a huge maybe if you still play Forest.
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>>182285371
Granblue

Every craft gets Gran and Djeeta leader. Dragon gets Lucha
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>>182287913
As everyone said, Alice and Spawn.
But Snow White and Wizardess of Oz are very safe crafts, as well. They've already become core in their classes.
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>>182288665
>>182288528
>>182288261
What's so good about Snow White?
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>>182286060
>mushroom girl
tove?

>>182286068
i don't defend spawn but aggro neutral blood is fine when the neutral package is a bit nerfed, i always liked aggro decks
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>>182288725
it forces the opponent to play around her or misplay if played early
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>>182288725
She can kill any 2/2 and survive, making her one of the best early board contesters.
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>>182285371
we already share characters with granblue and had a granblue collab too

cagliostro when though

>>182288725
she really touches your doggos correctly
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>>182286068
All it really needs is Fanfare: ambush if player is in vengance
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>>182288725
2 drop that beats basically every other two drop and lives
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I need a blood player to do me a favor. I'm making an edit of pic related for spawn blood but I actually have spawns myself and it's annoying trying to find screenshots that work.

Feel free to play vs beginner AI or a dummy account, I'll probably edit the enemy portrait. I just need a screenshot that meets the following requirements:
-Deck is neutral/spawn blood (i.e. hand has toves, BKBs, baphos, the more cancer cards the better)
-stealthed spawn on the board on turn 6
-you were 1st player (i.e. 2 evo points)
-preferably vampy leader but if you don't have her don't worry
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Is there a new nep deck running around that i haven't seen yet
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>>182289007
would make it completely useless
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>>182288725
Sticky two-drop that trades with every single 2-drop but Tove and lives, also has great synergy with doggo
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>>182289040
>-preferably vampy leader but if you don't have her don't worry

implying most of spawn players don't use urias
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>>182289040
Just craft a copy you nerd
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>>182289126
Really now? It would require actually using blood's gimmick and still poses more threat than snek
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>>182289290
I would use Vampy because I play blood so much pre-WLD but I spent my coins on Forte
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post bloodkins pls
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Can I get a concede please?
43789
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>>182289547
snake without vengeance is way more threating than unambushed spawn and nobody plays snek anyway

why do i even bother to answer to all this ridiculous shit in this thread...
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>>182289626
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>>182289626
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concede pls

10708
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>>182289626
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Dragonsong Flute and Lord of Flies, these vial bait?
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ARISU
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>>182289715
thanks vampy-chan
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>>182289626
discord?
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>>182289623
that's a part of the reason - a lot of spawn players are bandwagonners as you
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>>182289947
fuck discord
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>thread is nothing but reddit posting now
damn
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>doing forest dailies in unraked
>don't even have B&B
>made a simple neutral deck and just trying my luck
>opponent is neutral blood
>bming me because he's getting a kill with spawn
>bm some more before dealing the last blow

Is there some sort of unwritten rule that says people below the age of 15 are to play blood and blood only?
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>>182289853
>ywn be tucked in by vampy
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>>182289956
Nice falseflag but blood is my main class
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>>182289805

thx vampy

but why did i have to beat you up

it hurts
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>>182289889
FUSHIGI NO MANKO
SUTEKI NO MANKO
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>>182290162
I want Vampy to beat me up and rip my stomach open!
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>>182289870
>>182290094
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>>182286068
maybe because turn 8 do nothing into a follow up 12/16 dmg on turn 9 isn't exactly that bonkers compared to over win cons that exist in this game? After all if baphospawn or spawn itself would be as broken as people say then cblood would be just as t0 deck as neutral blood is, but cblood is t2.5 at best and the reason for that is that it can't get away with turn 5,6 do nothing, and turn 8 spawn with most likely all evos spent isn't that big of a deal. Neutral blood on the over hand gets such a huge board lead with tove goblin leader alice turns, that it can afford to waste 2 turns and still be in ok shape
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So sempai-tachis, how would you fix current Shadowverse? Which cards are the most responsible for the neutral aggro mirrors we have going on right now? How would you fix them exactly? Alice and Spawn are expected answers, but try to come up with a fix that nerfs as few cards as possible.

Thank you.

>>182283569
I think Forestcraft either needs the majority of it's 5+ PP cards dropped by one PP or needs a card that does exactly that. It needs a Emperor Tharssen card.
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>>182290209
I want Vampy to use me to take care of her sexual urges
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17799

Please concede all over my face, senpai!!
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>>182290097
Nope. They were shadowniggers last season.
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>>182290123
>wants to use vampy over urias but bought forte over vampy
>"blood is my main class"

sure m8

>>182290209
vampy is a kind girl though
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concede please
72382
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>>182290097
Everyone is playing blood, so the chances that you'll run into a jackass playing it are pretty high, since jackasses are part of the demographic that includes "everybody".
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Is the Sibyl of the Waterwyrm the best dragon legendary and if yes how would you make the other as useful.
I'd personnaly love for the Wyrm God of the Skies to have rush
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>>182289040
Here, though I don't have vampy
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>>182287639
Not anymore.
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>>182290615
thanks cara
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So I'm not a "true" Blood player if I didn't pay 5 packs to play as an annoying little shit stain instead of a suave man's man?
You guys need help.
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>>182290385
Goblin Leader needs the adjustment more than anything. If you can't answer him as soon as he comes out the game is usually over. I don't really care much about hitting the rest of the kit.

Baphomet needs to be adjusted. Even if neutral being hit fixed Spawn issues, Baphomet is just going to break open the game again in a future expansion.

I think I might be okay just leaving it at those two.
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>>182290103
>ywn have your dick tucked back into your pants after Vampy sucks blood from it
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>>182290785
>goblin leader
>3pp lastwords put a goblin into your hand
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>>182290385
Alice needs to have her cost increased.

Otherwise the go first winrate won't be ever adjusted.
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>>182290424
Thank you vampy-chan! Even if you did drag it out!
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>>182290776
no, of course not, but that guy said literally
>I would use Vampy because I play blood so much pre-WLD but I spent my coins on Forte

i.e. he
- would use vampy over urias
- bought forte over vampy anyway

therefore he either likes dragoncraft over bloodcraft or heavily bandwagonned dragoncraft in totg and so his claim that
>blood is my main class
is obviously false

if you like urias over vampy it's your business and isn't related here
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>Spawn comes out
>Drop Tribunal
>Proceed to BM them before finishing them off

I love bullying Vampy
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I'll spend all 3k gold I've saved on Standard packs and post it in a webm if Alice doesn't get nerfed.
That's how confident I am.
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>played against either elana or neutral blood the whole day
>opened 5 packs
>4 Legendary
There is a god somewhere guys
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>>182289126
Surely this is a pressing problem given all of the weak cards that blood got this expansion?
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>>182291401
kys luckshitter
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>>182291306
>he doesn't know there will be no nerfs this month
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>>182291306
You mean this month or within the 3 months?
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>>182291306
the last guy who promised to do literally the very same didn't do it when his claim turned out to be false (something about then revealed wd cards) so who cares
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>>182291401
Screenshot or it didn't happen.
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>>182290094
What about Bloodhungry Matriarch, Pluto?

Also will Bloody Mary control ever be good, it reminds me of a MTG deck concept
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>>182291306
My tinfoil might be a bit on too tight, but I kinda feel like that last tweet is them feeling out if people are just mad at Spawn or hate the whole neutral package that comes along with it.
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>>182291601
never forget
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>>182291419
it wouldn't kill blood if you mean it but it would kill the card making it on par with soul dealer if not worse
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I've been getting quite a few Legendaries recently.

I wonder if they upped the rates in order to keep people from bailing before the nerfs.
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>>182285736
You really only need 3 cards and you can build the rest yourself:

3x kill
3x yourself
3x healnigger
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>>182290951
What if Alice just buffed followers in your hand instead of also on the board? That's what really struck me the first time I saw Alice. I thought, wouldn't this card just enable Aggro curve decks if it buffed shit already in play?

>>182290785
I read a suggestion one time here that Goblin Leader's effect procs at the beginning of your turn

I'd be okay with a Baphomet nerf as well. Probably just remove his enhance.
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>>182291771
>update the rates
>still only have 1 B&B after 80 something packs
sure bud
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>>182291750
Not really? Are you one of the people who thought belphegor was bad?
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>>182291771
fuck you nigga I've gotten literally nothing the past 20 fricking pax
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>>182291771
>got 0 legendaries since release
Yeah they surely did
Kys luckshitter
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>>182291771
it's you are having your lucky streak
i used to get a lot of leggos back then in rob, like ~2 times more than i should have been getting statistically, but then the streak ended and right now i get about 1 leggo per maybe 10-15 packs i.e. as it should be and slightly worse
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>>182291992
>1 leggo per maybe 10-15 packs i.e. as it should be
Official rate is one every 8.3 packs.
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>>182286339
The problem with that card is you simply rewarded when you just play him, no drawback and no restriction and as the opponent there's no way to interact with it.
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>>182291645
You're better off posting a screenshot of all your legendaries, that way anons can tell you if you should reroll or not
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>>182291878
the point is that soul dealer has a limited use only in some very aggressive kys lists, spawn with ambush linked to vengeance would get the same limited use in kys blood lists if it even got any
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>>182292202
I've already invested levels in stuff, so I'm just trying to get a feel for what I should just vial in general.
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>>182292072
>and slightly worse

>>182292139
looks as a raccoon, not as a doggo
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>>182292235
Hence it being-- surprise surprise, not useless? I mean, gee anon, why can't your legendary of free 16 damage have a drawback or a class centric mechanic?
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So Spawn's only counters are Rune and Forest?
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>>182292363
That's what her voice actress says in the JP voiceover.
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>>182292363
One every 10-15 packs isn't slightly worse. That's pretty significant.
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>>182291809
she would be ok if she buffed them +1/+0

>>182292389
because it's a way too high drawback
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>>182292418
It has positive winrates against its counters. Which is another way of saying it has no counters.
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>>182292418

or just go first with any kind of neutral deck and get the usual 2 drop, 3 drop, alice curve to put too much pressure on them to be able to spawn
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>>182292418
Haven also
But all of this is moot as every single one of its supposed "counters" still can't beat it when its curving out decently while going first.
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>>182292581
That doesn't work because blood's neutral curve is stronger. Tove, BKB, etc will tear apart your Alice board and you'll never get anything done.
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>>182290637
Not true. Some autists are sticking to their craft still without giving into the temptation that is to play t0 decks.
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>>182292139
https://twitter.com/shadohagi/status/846357287992123393

It's a shame this card will never see play unless Cygames prints an amulet that adds 2 to the number of cards played for X turns.
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>>182292682

oh yeah i forgot

hope they brick and don't draw tove or bodyguard

e-easy
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>>182292418
The card Spawn of the Abyss has counters in those classes, yes. But the deck has none. And Alice has none.
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>deal 2 damage to an enemy gain 1 play orb
good idea?
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>>182290424
I want Vampy to cum on my face!
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Ah yes, my one weakness.
Playing literally nothing for 5 turns straight.
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>>182292871
>can't even kill tove
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>>182292871
Only if it costs 2
and heals for 2
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>>182292554
It's almost as if enlisting the help of otherworldly creatures necessitates a high risk high reward style of gameplay
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>>182292969
nothing can kill tove
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>>182292930
Jokes on you, now you don't have space for Eachtar.
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>>182291809
People already said it before but all they needed to do was make Alice cost 5. The reason is that the player that goes second could get a chance to remove board and the one that goes first would have to rely on hand buff and play smarter. The simple fact a person can drop 1-2-3 and buff before evolve is just dumb and retarded. How the fuck did those "testers" from cygames did not noticed that Alice would make going first irremediably broken? The stupidity from people behind this game is beyond words.
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Alice now only buffs the cards in your hand as an evolve effect to bridge the gap between going 1st and 2nd

Spawn only gets his last words when vengeance is active

Baphomet only get his enhance when vengeance is active

Tove is 3/2

BKB is 3/3

Scarlet can't hit face with her ability

Actress get partial evo stats

Maisy is 3pp to ease how quickly neut sword fills the vacuum once blood is nerfed

How many of these actually happen?
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>>182293247
Tove and Baph
They're gonna nerf as little as possible and they're never fucking ever going to nerf a legendary. Especially not the poster child of the expansion.
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Why does Vampy talk in 3rd person like a baka?
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>>182292741
They should just update forest's trait to be if you have 2 or more cards in the hand. Then maybe old cards get to see some play.
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>>182293247
I'm betting my collection they'll nerf tove and gob leader
If I'm wrong I'll vial it live
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>>182293545
kids are supposed to do that
same with autistic 5k years old vampires
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>>182293545
Claudia*
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are any girls browsing
is it fun to jiggle your breasts around the way isabelle does when she says thank you
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>>182293247
you are bad at balancing

>>182293545
doesn't trump speak of himself in the third person too?

>>182293583
the new life of roach forest...
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>>182293247
If they hit sword I hope they hit the rabbit. I know that it's not actually that strong of a card, but it bothers me that an aggro deck should be able to refuel like that without losing any tempo at all.
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>>182293494
Please translate
I want the ones where she's bullying me
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>>182293648
there is a very high chance they don't touch tove so prepare to vial your collection live
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>Cthulhu - When this follower attack, deal the same amount of damage to your leader.
This will fix this dumb card right?
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>>182294157
It's never, ever getting nerfed.
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>>182294184
It's a buff to get tin to vengeance though
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>>182293905
Rabbit is already a conditional card, it's useless outside of neutral sword.
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>>182293545
It's a thing young women do in japan to look cute.
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>>182294536
Just like Tove :^)
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>>182294536
so is tove

>>182294537
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illeism

>One common usage is to impart humility, a common practice in feudal societies and other societies where honorifics are important to observe ("Your servant awaits your orders"), as well as in master–slave relationships ("This slave needs to be punished"). Recruits in the military, mostly United States Marine Corps recruits, are also often made to refer to themselves in the third-person, such as "the recruit," in order to reduce the sense of individuality and enforce the idea of the group being more important than the self.
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>>182290687
Sorry for the late reply.

Much appreciated anon.
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>>182294157
It should be the user receive damage when it's destroyed during stealth mode. But since this card has no drawbacks you can just play like a chimpanzee and win.
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>>182293748
nice meme
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>>182294727
>Young children in Japan commonly refer to themselves by their own name (a habit probably picked from their elders who would normally refer to them by name. This is due to the normal Japanese way of speaking, where referring to another in the third person is considered more polite than using the Japanese words for "you", like Omae) though as the children grow older they normally switch over to using first person references. Japanese idols also may refer to themselves in the third person so to give off the feeling of childlike cuteness.
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Pulled a Cinderella and a Corpselord out of two packs. Shame that both sword and shadow are garbage.
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>>182293905
Phantom Cat can do the same thing along with random face damage. A lot of aggressive decks now have a lot of resources or Storm so I don't see a reason to nerf it especially since Sword isn't really dominating.
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whats his deck?
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>>182293905
It's a real crime that Neutral Aggro Sword got a sweet card draw right when it was made and Aggro Officer/Comm Sword is still eating dicks for cards.
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>>182294157
>puts you into vengeance so you can immediately use Emeralda
:^)
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>>182295483
Oh yeah, fuck that guy. 5/5 with fanfare draw 2 is already well above curve. I haven't actually been too bothered by him in my match ups but I want him nerfed on principle.
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>>182295581
You mean control sword with Leonidas and no Albertos?
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>>182295632
I was using an anon's deck here, its fun but boy does it need card draw
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>>182293247
Maisy is fine as is. Go complain about loli squisher if you cannot into a 2-drop that needs an EP to destroy something. And I'm a shadow player.
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>>182295807
thankfully you are not in charge
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will you niggas keep playing after 12k monthly score?
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Why do Beauty and the Beast feel the need to keep reassuring us that it's not lust, it's love?
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>>182296342
Probably will still try to go for GM, even with the cancerous meta as it is. Not with neutral blood obviously. I'm just a sucker for challenge.
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>>182296342
I need to get GM so I can shitpost here and trick netdeckers with garbage decks.
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>>182296342
why would you ever.
cap out my 12k for the month and this game can fucking die for all I care.
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>>182293953
submisse
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>>182296342
I'm not touching this fucking multiplayer again until we have more than one meta deck that 60%+ of the playerbase is using
get fuuuuuuuuuuuuuucked
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>>182294947
nips are weird
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need a concede, 47453
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>>182296418
they are highly spiritual
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>>182296513
I barely can force myself to play till 12k. And here I was thinking about getting GM in new and fun meta that is not ToG.
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Will deepwood anomaly ever be good again

Also, how would you feel if summon effects triggered fanfare

Also if Gawain triggered his effect on Clash, he'd be better
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>>182296873
Thanks Bellringer Angel!
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Was implementing Grandmaster really worth it?
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>>182297153
>again
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>>182297153
>again
He was never good.
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It's honestly incredible that each expansion has just made the game worse.
Are the SV devs more incompetent than the HS devs after all?
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>>182297228
They gave autists and nip salarymen something to look forward despite the shitfest meta, so yes
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>>182297256
>>182297270
he was good in early totg when you could catch people not expecting it
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>>182297228
In a way. It haphazardly shows all the tryhards who will build/netdeck the most problematic deck to grind for it.
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>>182297318
It's a mix of incompetence and greed.
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>>182297228
Not really when everyone is running mostly 1 deck to grind for it
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>>182295647
Atleast it have draw back rather than play this card and be rewarded.
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Anyone got the prebuilt list?
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>>182297270
>>182297256
It was a joke, also is Bloodhungry Matriarch like, secretly techable, or is it just too weak
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>>182297785
Matriarch is too slow now.
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>>182297318
I still understand how WD happened.
>we focused only on neutrals! We swear!
>blood having busted cards like BKB and Scarlet Sabreur
>even cards tied to neutral are good (Tove and Phantom Cat)
>while Forest gets a Fairy Dragon
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>>182297785
It's a 2 damage AoE board clear. It fills a niche. It might be useful in the future, but not right now.
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So why does anyone still play this game?
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>>182298039
i'm a sad person
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>>182298039
whyfoos
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>>182297785
She's not a bad card but she's never been in a meta that's good for her. Turn 7 is too slow right now and the most common aggro dodges her at X/3 boards.

It's a shame, she might've made Blood tier 1 if we had her instead of Mary in DE. Blood support was garbage in RoB and she didn't play well with vengeance in ToG.
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>>182297913
>>182297860
I'll hang onto mine then. Still, it would be nice if Bandersnatch cheated her into play and she triggered

>>182298039
MTG has too many years and cards

>>182298181
I love Mary, i just wish she came in amulet form
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Does the storm ramp even work right now? I keep losing even to second-rate decks.
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>>182297775
I have been using her recently. Definitely a lovable goblin. Playing her back to back is actually great to refill your hand. Hopefully I can get an animated playset soon.
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>>182297775
> She was at work on what they said was her greatest picture when she took sick, and every day and every night it was her prayer to be allowed to live till she got it done, but she never got the chance. It was a picture of a young woman in a long white gown, standing on the rail of a bridge all ready to jump off, with her hair all down her back, and looking up to the moon, with the tears running down her face, and she had two arms folded across her breast, and two arms stretched out in front, and two more reaching up towards the moon—and the idea was to see which pair would look best, and then scratch out all the other arms; but, as I was saying, she died before she got her mind made up, and now they kept this picture over the head of the bed in her room, and every time her birthday come they hung flowers on it. Other times it was hid with a little curtain. The young woman in the picture had a kind of a nice sweet face, but there was so many arms it made her look too spidery, seemed to me.
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>>182298261
I really like Mary too but putting aside any original issues she had, they abandoned her on support. Blood has a huge problem with that in general, there're three or four styles of aggro and two different directions of control in the craft? Before getting into wincons.
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>>182298039
There's no better animu card game
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>>182294757
nice aliasing
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>>182298039
I don't have friends to play paper tcgs and I don't have any other games to play.
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>>182298039
i like it
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>>182297228
all it did was show who was willing to sell their dignity for an animated recolor of the basic sleeve
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>>182298039
It's a good time waster when I don't have anything better to do. Right now I'm reading mango so I won't be playing tonight.
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need a concede for dailies 41469
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>>182297860
matriarch never seen much of play

>>182297896
forest also got eta and "no lust swear just pure hot sweaty love"
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>>182297756
Might come out compressed as fuck, but here you go.
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Guys, for those that are having trouble understading or making good decks with the new cards, here's the first official strategy article for WLD

https://shadowverse.com/articles/detail.php?id=column-051
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>>182298795
ETA and B&B requires you to lock yourself up to neutral to at least be decent. I can see Phantom Cat being played in a non-neutral just for a 6PP 5/5 draw 2 cards.
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Does anyone have the best blood deck to grind to grand master?

>>182298039
Anime tities.
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>>182298851
Thanks. I needed to figure out whether or not I was crafting some shit.
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>WWD comes out
>funnel my gold into 50-55 packs
>sink every additional gold into more WWD packs (including 10 t2 tix)
>0 Levi, 0 Oz

Fucking hell. Should I just bite the bullet and go deep with my shekels? I was hoping to open an Oz for qt avatar, too.

On a completely unrelated note, is this Ozless dirt list at all salvageable?

https://shadowverse.gamepress.gg/deck/866/wonderland-dreams-release-event-top-8-korolo-earth-rite-runecraft
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>>182298404
If you highroll nothing can stop you. Problem is that the game is too unforgiving if you skip a turn or do nothing a turn to the opponents board specially with all the neutrals being able to have higher than 3 defense thanks to alice.
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>>182297756
>>182298851
I got you guys covered.
>mfw nip got a hand of that list of mine
>everyone yelling at that anomaly list
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>>182299001
Why can't you just craft Levi and Oz?
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>>182298915
so is tove

also unlike tove they are usable with into the looking glass
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>>182298908
Interesting...
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>>182299125
Sorry, by shekels I meant vials. Ambiguous, I know.
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>>182298541
>here's a new way to play blood
>no support down the line
>here's a new way to play blood
>no support down the line

fucking

fuck I would love to kill people with my own vengance pain
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>>182298404
I'm still playing mostly the same dragon list that carried me trough the past expansion.
Just replaced Dragon Warrior with Teena and added Conflagration (can't remember what I swapped them with).

But yes, sometimes you just lose to early aggression, like >>182299049
said
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>>182299276
>here's a new way to whale for your favorite class!
>here's a new way to whale for your favorite class!
>they can't keep getting away with it!
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>>182299264
If you really, really want to play with the deck, just craft 2 of her in the off-chance you get an Oz later.
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>>182299001
looks bretty gud
oz is not a must at all, levi on the other hand is a beast everywhere
craft at least 2 levis
thing is why falise? he works great with neutralcance only, do you want it as some sort of 7pp storm finisher? you should also try using melvie and put some mutagenic somewhere to counter spawn
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>>182299416
Are you suggesting that the new way to play blood works? You're retarded. The point of support is to continue to making that playable. However, if you introduce a card concept like Bloody Mary, and then you drop any idea of support, it becomes a failed way to play and just becomes a useless card. Wait this is bait
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>>182299084
Yeah... mine is a little hard on the eyes. Elf Queen should've been White Wolf
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>>182298908
Jesus Christ that's so bad and plain. Do that guy play this game or he just got real spoonfed? I wonder how's that even an employee.
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>>182298039
Still trying to nab a Snow White emblem and getting my way to GM. Once those two goals are met, I'm saving up on gold.
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>>182298039
I'm still playing because shadow still has a deck filled with waifus.
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>some nerd tries to tech in Ardent Nun to beat Tove
>got her ass Angel of the Worded after trading with a goblin
l o l
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>>182299664
He's the chubby glasses guy you see commentating during Jap tournaments
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>>182298424
That part of the book honestly made me laugh out loud. Twain has a way with words.
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>>182299276
I HOPE YOU'RE EXCITED FOR DRAIN AGGRO NEXT SET.

>>182299416
The thing is that Blood is actually the only craft that has this issue on the regular. The common support for all the other crafts in a set is basically that we get a new legendary tied to a new playstyle, some relevant cards to support that, support for one or two older playstyles and then a couple value cards.

The only time Blood has ever kept a common deck going forward is DE into RoB, and that was just adding two or three playsets to Bats. Even then they pushed for some janky midrange with too high of a curve on the cards they brought in.

This set is particularly bad with how none of the legends or golds supported any of the last half dozen playstyles.
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>>182299875
>tryhard being full of himself from piloting a deck where a 2PP is 3.5PP in stats
How horrifying.
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>>182299084
>that forest list
Why do they think people will actually pay for that
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>>182299875
the war of nuns and angels already looks weird especially when angles side with some weird anteater-like things that also grow mushrooms
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>>182300059
Cygames fucked up by not including alt Elf Queen art instead. People would have shelled out like crazy for those sleeves.
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>>182299664
>be a journalist
>just copy-paste anything locals already knows
>it's not even their own research just a sum up of some popular facts and naive commentaries
Fox Newsâ„¢
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>>182299939
But isn't that article in ego?
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>>182300059
Honestly I might buy three. I didn't pull any copies of either legend and I missed most of the golds.

I know there're only like, three good cards and Teena is situational but I got more cash than I do vials.
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>>182300059
I'm betting it's the Forest Timmy designer who got buttblasted that his card didn't leave a big impact on the scene so they went with making the alt art for that set to be Anomaly so that they could shut him up for a bit.
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>>182300368
you don't need more than one elf queen though
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>>182300368
Why not take that money and spend it on a good game
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>>182300190
Hm wait up, if I buy the blood one does that mean I get that cool Belph art?
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Why does Anomaly look completely different in his alt-art anyways?

Also which one looks best.
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>>182300659
og anomaly looks better
this looks like crap
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Concede please?
16673
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>>182300561
*Belph art as a sleeve
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>>182300659
look at it's smile. I'd say none
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>>182300659
>a tree with a skull
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>>182300561
>Not worshipping Nep's sleeve
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>>182300659
Also posting this for comparison.
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>>182296342
I still haven't reached and probably won't. I'm tired of games being decided by coin flip who goes first.
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>>182300885
Why he has lock on his crotch?
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>>182300561
Yeah, you get this toilet devil.
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>>182300659
>Rose head and surrounded by butterflies, some kind of fucked up flamboyant forest king

>>182300885
>Cosmic horror that holds galaxies in his wings, more likely came from hell than from the forest
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>>182301042
I want to make out with those hips.
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>>182301010
anti-rape device
why do you check out his crotch anyway?
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>>182301128
I want to admire his majestic dick.
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>>182300659
i fucking love this, it really feels like an anomaly to me, like something gone wrong
also it reminds me of nemesis
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>Post nerf metas are always the best
>Only have a week of post nerf metas until new expansion hits
Sasuke kikegames
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>>182300769
Thank you, cute Vampi!
>>
Amidst all the unwarranted hate, doom and gloom, people are missing that this expansion got so much right.

-Thematically it is by far the strongest, almost all the cards go with it. Beyond just fitting, each card represents its character brilliantly. Cinderella can only stay a short while, snow white awakens, beauty and the beast's true love can not easily be overcome, don quixote charged right at the windmills, etc etc. Just amazing.

-Earth rune which was one of the starting archetypes of rune is finally no longer a joke, in fact there are multiple dirt rune types that are good. My god is arch witch oz fun, all the 1pp possibilities.

-Elana Haven is back, and much more interesting than before. Tenko math, calculating kos...almost like roach in forest.

-Again some of the neutral class interactions are brilliant. I already know explained those, but they allow the shadow and forest for example to be played like never before.

-Control blood is sorta actually good. They finally got a decent finisher.

-Every class was given amazing interesting cards to let their imaginations go wild. The amount of different decks I've already seen blows all previous expansions out of the water. If you care about having fun, creating things, new experiences wonderland is your ticket.

So thank you Cygames, I love this expansion more than any other and there are many who feel the same.
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>>182301716
We're getting monthly nerfs now so hopefully after they hit Blood we'll get a decent meta.

Or maybe we'll just discover that some broken deck only kept in check by t6 Spawn is waiting for us.
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>>182301847
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>>182301976
https://forums.shadowverse.com/index.php?/topic/5956-wonderland-dreams-is-the-best-expansion-yet/

Forums are truly awful, awful places.
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>>182301847
(you)
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>>182301847
Nice reddit
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>>182301847
>forest and shadow
>craft interaction
You mean Siren's Tear and Ded Moron? ETA and B&B? Ain't got shit against Tove and Phantom Meow.
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>>182301847
>Tenko math, calculating kos...almost like roach in forest.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
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>>182285371
G R A N B L U E
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>>182301909
*haven rumbling in distance*
Blood is the only thing keep haven from being the cancer. Just because blood is cheap and easy.
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>>182301847
I actually agree, though I don't think the hate is unwarranted. Neutral Blood is serious bullshit but when you set it aside there's a lot of interesting shit.

I'm willing to hope that this is a misstep on the way to a decent future.
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>>182302215
If this is about elana shit again, yamenasai. Teatime and lion are not as problematic as blood as a whole.
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>>182285371
A touhou expansion
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>>182302215
*knife-ears and solitaire players giggling in the distance*
if there are two crafts that rustle my jimmies as a hagplayer, it's those two classes.
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Not pictured here: Animated Alice
I think I spent all my luck on these last 10 packs
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>>182302215
If they nerf blood hard ranked will be filled with sword again. Which is great because I'll be playing dragon without a second thought.
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>crafted 2 more brick lions on day 1 not realizing how unreliable it was
>everybody hurtttts
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>>182302395
That megatron tier face though.
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>>182302395
Kys luckshitter
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>>182302395
kys
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>>182302487
If it makes you feel any better, I crafted 2 Dark Alice
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>>182302487
I have decent winrates with this card + neutral synergy, what went wrong?
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>>182301010
Around elves, watch yourselves.
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>>182302656
No draw power in the deck.
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>>182302656
>>182302487
Because you need to have 4 of these out of 7 cards starting turn 2.
>an amulet
>lion
>a neutral follower
>goblin leader
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>>182302550
This game's art looks like a primary schooler's finger-paintings
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>>182302698
Why are elves so slutty? What is in their DNA that makes them act in such way?
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>>182302792
>what is sacred plea
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>>182301042
>evolved art still has the boots on

0/10
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>>182301847
I agree that it'll be a very fun expansion once they tone down the 1 core meta.
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>>182302848
To keep their race alive
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Are we at >50% blood playrate yet?
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>>182302865
>play plea
>your opponent now has a 1pp follower on the board
>your lion is bricking your hand, earliest it'll get out now is turn 5 and thats only if you play 2pp drop and goblin leader turn 3
>at this point your opponent has 1-2-3-Alice
>draw 2 cards from your pleas, the deck doesn't have space for countdown reduction
>concede
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>>182303239
atleast you got your draw power :^)
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>>182303239
>be any craft
>opponent drop 2 Feria on turn 4 instead of Alice and evolve
>concede
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>>182302848
When you live in the forest for too long you start to get naughty.
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>>182303239
>7PP
>turn 2 6PP
>turn 3 4PP
>cannot play on turn 4
Dude what did you smoke?
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>>182303239
>Strumming my pain with his fingers
>Singing my life with his words
>Killing me softly with his song
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>>182302698
Are the elves raping the orcs? Damn I knew that elves being raped by orcs was elvish propaganda.
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pls concede 26540
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>>182301042
>fishnets

i don't even fucking play blood
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>>182303418
But anon, Feria is actually a fair and balanced card, it's name even says so
https://www.google.com/search?q=feria+translate
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>>182303530
Wasn't this from that one doujin? Was it ever scanned?
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>>182301847
Elana should've been dead and buried forever, also none of that shit you said matters when everyone is playing the same neutral engine that makes up 80% of a deck and over half of everyone is playing one craft
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>>182303587
>make an inbalanced card
>call it fair
>never nerf it
The deepest lore.
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>>182303239
>>182303476
And don't forget, if you're stuck wasting turns trying to crowd control, you're still not getting lion out AND your opponent is simply hitting your face.
And since you're running more neutrals trying to get lion out early you don't have haven's regular healing cards to try and combat the face damage.
And if you're not getting lion out turn 5-7 you may as well not even be using neutrals and just drop vanilla lion for a free amulet burst and then go into aegis or something.
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>>182303587
You missed the part that it's an Actress, she's only acting.
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>>182303530
hmm bloodbab i only need the concede
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>>182303854
If she's acting fair, then she's a terrible actress
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>>182303829
DUDE.
>turn 2 2-drop, Lion is now 6PP
>turn 3 Goblin Leader, it is now 5PP. The summoned Goblin further reduces it to 4PP
>turn 4 4PP Lion
The fuck is wrong with you?
>b-but only if you have lead-
You cited Leader as an example.
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>>182303530
thanks
>>182303649
yeah, maybe someday
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>>182304000
this situation only happens if and only if you have
>lion in your hand from turn 2 or before
>an amulet for lion
>the neutrals to lower the cost of the lion
if any of these aren't there, you've basically just cucked yourself again
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>>182304259
Yeah, but I'm only pointing out on you saying it only works as early as turn 5, which is fake and clearly as misinformation formed from not understanding the game mechanics.
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nerfs when
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>>182304000
>>182304259
Also you need to have played plea turn 1 to keep up with the hand demands or else you're topdecking with a deck thats got a lot of goblins.
You need plea turn 1 for draw, you need a 2 drop, you need goblin leader turn 3 and then you need a decent amulet for lion to pull turn 4.
There is no wiggle room whatsoever. And note, you can't run any removal doing this, so your face is just taking a pounding unless you played T2 unica.
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>>182303239
I don't know if this count.
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>>182304486
Never, everything is fine.
Didn't you read >>182301847
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>>182304682
fuck you neutral blood cuck nigger
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>>182304000
>>182304259
>>182304575
Nice plea you got there
No room in the deck for amulet reduction?
Reeeeally need that draw?
Would be a shame if someone bounced it back into your hand :^)
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>>182303895
This post made my day. Feria slut deservers it.
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Can we buff him? Maybe with a fanfare of +1/+1 to himself when you have either a skeleton or Hamsa in play (+2/+2 if both)?
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>>182304682
>everything is fine
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>7 loses in a row
>5 of which were spawn
This game makes me want to drink again.
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>>182305276
Cygames will just print Youthful Fighter next expac
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>>182305347
Either play spawn or have anti-spawn tech.
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>>182305347
Just play KYB shadow and enjoy dragging that tentacle in with a nurse.
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>>182305539
How much do you rely on Cerb? Don't you think something like Death's Breath or Khawy would be a little more useful?
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>>182305276
Next expansion we'll get the "no skills" buff amulet, don't you worry.
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>>182305630
Death's Breath dies to Hungering Horde and Khawy is slower to come into play if you go second against spawn. Granted, that list is going to attract roaches, but I rarely see them these days.
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I want to cum on Jeanne's disgusting, stinky armpits.
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>>182305276
fighter is so sad
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>>182305772
filthy hairy french armpits
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>>182305820
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>>182305759
Yeah, that's true, Forest is nearly unseen here in Masters.

I've been running a deck similar, switching out Cerb/Death's Breath/Khawy constantly. I can't tell which one is the best, but I am leaning towards Cerb for how many options she gives.
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>>182305630
>>182306064
Cerb is great because she can either be a 5PP or 6PP on demand. Giving an attendant or lurching a Coco usually annoys the opponent.
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>>182306258
I want Cerb to have my puppies.
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Any deck with Test of Strength + Mordecai?

>>182305539

Why Skullcradle Widow over Unica or Lyrial?
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>>182306258
>acting like Cerb is some underated shit
Shadowniggers pls
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>>182299084
The Rune one still kills me.
>Hulk and Professor
>3 sigils in the entire deck
>Daria not the featured legend when it's a Daria deck with the random earthrite cards tossed in
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Is B&B forestcraft just about getting B&B out?
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>>182306682
Yes, and roaching. And bouncing spawn (never happens).
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>>182300659
Regular art looks cooler, but the alt actually looks like something twisted from the forest rather than a cosmic horror.
>>
rune strim
https://www.openrec.tv/live/M88JqVg_MC1
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>>182306431
Use Dark Alice instead.
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>>182306827
I'll take the cosmic horror art anyday thanks, it alone makes me want to use the card despite being terrible. I can't believe they expect people to actually buy that fucking Forest premade, what a joke.
>>
NEW PREMADES WHEN
I WANT TO SPEND MY CRYSTALS ON DUST AND SHINIES CYJEWS
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>>182306967
The Rune one is almost in the same boat. Hulk is trash, and it too is the featured legend you can't vial. Daria was great, 2 meta ago.
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>>182307051
Why, powercreep is so bad in SV that most of those cards are now vials.
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>>182307457
Really want the shiny bert and nep to be honest family
at least they didn't load half the decks with basics this time kek
how jewish can you get
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>>182285371
Type-Moon colab with leaders
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>>182307906
But there will be, the new ones are still only 30 cards listed.
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>>182306431
Widow is good because they will be less inclined to use their 2PP removal her, allowing you to have a target for Necroassassin. She also is also safe play against Snow White. That said, that is definitely a flex slot, since everyone has their own success with either of the three.
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WD>TOG>ROB>DE
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>>182308045
t.Urias
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>>182308003
this shit better still be 500 on first purchase like the first ones, if they pull some upmark shit on top of the weak ass lists I'm out
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Can someone link me a good deck to counter the bloodcancer?
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>>182308332
There's legitimately no such thing. Nothing has a positive WR against it.
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>>182308332
NOBAODTY CAN AHAA-.: U CAKT
Litteraly improbl
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If Joan of Arc was still alive, what would she think about being a character in this game?
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will control sword ever be viable?
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>>182308417
>>182308489
>Everyone is running blood in Masters
>The WR will eventually get close to 50-50 because it will just be blood vs blood
>Cygames will think this balanced and nothing needs to be changed
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>>182308332
The only way to counter bloodcancer is hoping they brick.
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>>182308332
There's really anything that you can say counters it if they get all their cards, but this deck gives me a decent chance. Just replace baldy with teenas if you have them. At least in AA where I am people often get greedy and don't evo their Spawn right away, and so you can remove it fairly easily and not take too much of a hit, especially if you can get down Curate.
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Accept your fate
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I played 20 games with this Cat Spawn list and I went 14W - 6L.
Phantom Cat is the best! Spawn is the best! Neutral Blood is the strongest!!

https://twitter.com/re_ne_kuroi/status/884498559638351874
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>>182307918
Arc System Works colab and Guilty Gear leaders

>Sol Badguy - Dragon
>Ky Kiske - Royal
>Slayer - Vampire
>Bridget - Bishop
>Zappa/Zato-1 - Necromancer
>I-No - Witch
>Dizzy? - Elf
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>>182308798
dumb sataniaposter
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>>182308798
I want to sniff this cartoon's butt.
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>>182308798
>>
>replying to discord reposting something from hours ago
why
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>>182308798
>blood decks are running 1-drops again

I guess this is a result of all the teching rune, forest, and haven have been doing against it. Just play full aggro and deal 8 with Spawn to close it out, probably way more consistent than trying to T7 otk
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>>182306849
>Runs into GameAI account
>He plays two Hamzas and a Ragewyrm, then concedes
Truly your number 1 source for netdecks.
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>>182302487
Works fine for me. You need to put in Garuda so you can win without Lion too. I saw one person with Uriel for extra draw power in one deck if you need it that badly, not a huge tempo loss since if you have Lion in hand you can try and swing it back on turn 5 with Tin Soldier. Playing off turn 4 is the ideal but even a turn 5 play is strong. Turn 6+ depends on whether or not opponent has board clear.
>>
Vampy-chan wa sugoi dakara
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>>182309441
>I'm here now, so everything will be okay! 'Cause I'm the best there is!
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>>182302487
I keep wondering if he'd be better in a midrangey kit than the current imitation Storm people're running him with.
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Remember when everyone thought Sword was gonna be the strongest?
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>>182308332
Just straight up don't play. That's what I'm doing. Neutral Spawn cancer has sucked the fun out of this game somehow quicker than LB+Eachtar during TotG.
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>>182309792
If you think you're stupid, know that I bet on Forest.
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>>182309973
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>>182309792
The only people that that Sword would be the strongest are the people that never played Sword, I knew Cinderella would be overrated as fuck as soon as she was revealed
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>>182310106
I didn't craft her either, it was obvious she wasn't worth the trouble.
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>>182310106
>tfw fell for the Cinderella meme
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>>182310106
that thought*
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>>182310106
Why would sword need cinderella anyway, just have the alice package and add storm finishers.
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>>182302487
I've tried really hard to make Lion work since I pulled 2 (one animated) day 1. Crafting the third one to go full greed mode for t4 Lion was a mistake, as it's almost Atomy tier unreliable. I'm currently testing a Storm-ish list with 2 Lions and a few neutrals (but no Alice) instead of Snow White and Doggos, but I think it's pretty obvious that regular Storm Haven is better, so you might as well drop anything neutral not called Grimnir and play him on curve as a win more card
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>>182309792
No, but I remember dumb people thinking Shadow and Dragon would still be strong along with the Shadow Reaper nerf not mattering.
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Need a concede
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>>182310486
Forgot match id: 10153
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>>182310362
I'm still annoyed that I pulled 3 of those fuckers and 0 Snow White.
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>>182306849
>mfw was playing with only 2 levis because thats what i had
>mfw i copied the code he shared
>mfw i was only missing the 2dmg sigil
>mfw i had a 3rd levi somehow
>mfw nf
im gonna try this version next
did anyone from here ask him the code or was it a random nip?
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>>182310362
He is basically daria v2, when you get the perfect draw, even going second him + march hare on turn 4 is disgusting.
>>
what's the difference between a vampire and a bloodkin?
>>
91610 concede pls
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>>182310907
claudia calls her bats bloodkin
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Yes!
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>>182310401
Dragon still shits on sword and haven for free bro
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>>182309792
Sword can never be tier 1 if forest is not tier 0.
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>>182310924
done ty
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>>182310980
1000+ vials nice
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>>182310980
>opening RoB packs

Grats though
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>>182310362
If you're making the deck to only win off Lion it's gonna suck. If you look at Lion netdecks most of them run neutral package including Alice and Garuda. The big differences you'll see is whether or not they have Goblins and Divine Birdsong. Regular Storm decks are still good but they don't work with neutral drops as well while Lion decks ideally have multiple ways to win since you can actually put out followers while 'counting down' amulets in your hand.
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>>182311159
>not opening RoB packs for animated cards like Lyrial while cashing in on reapers
Also Necroassassin and Lurching Corpse.
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>>182310907
Bloodkins are bat familiars, maybe?
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>>182310907
vampires are boss status, bloodkin are just regular ass enemies
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>>182300659
When are these coming out?
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does anyone have a dirt list?
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>>182310907
Better question would be why does Vampy and her family have silly bat wings on their heads but Urias doesn't?
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>>182311679
I wish I knew, I've been waiting.

I'm happy to get alt arts of non-waifus, but while Albert is great, I have some questions about the decision to redraw all these featureless constructs.
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>>182311159
I need the most stuff from them that isn't wonderland, and I'm getting some free wonderlands from the log in bonus.
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Come on CG, all you have to do is remove the Ambush from spawn and make it only does damage when attacking 1st time

Ambush does not ficking fit in Blood in any bloody matter
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>>182311865
He does.
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>>182311897
It's just recycled ROB art. They used Anomaly because the alt actually looks different, while Elf Queen is a bunch of recolours.
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>>182311897
I am retarded and that is the wrong art.
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>>182311897
>I wish I knew, I've been waiting.
If you had to guess, what would you say?
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>>182312050
some stuff is new, nep for example, not sure about anomaly tho
they could have made a summer elf queen premade, im pretty sure there was a sprite out there
they really fucked up
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>>182311978
>oh hey, remember those bats? yeah me neither
>remember that damage reflect lady? what was her name again? Martha?
>vengeance, what's that?
>here, take the best ambush, bane, and storm/banish cards we've ever printed
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>>182311978
Honestly the only reason I haven't crafted spawn is cause I figure its getting nerfed soon.
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>>182312041
They must be very tiny because I don't see them.
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>>182311865
see, that's given:
- bats have bat wings, fur, muzzle etc
- bats obey vampy, veight, queen vamp
- vampy, veight and queen vamp have symbolic bat wings but no fur or muzzle

one of the possible answers they have some bat wings to outline their special connection with bats (which urias doesn't have)

another possible answer that it's a kind of aristotelian ladder - bats < vampires with some bat traits (i.e. de facto partially animals) < vampires with human traits only

<--- partially animal vampy
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>>182312050
All alternate art but Albert's one is new. Or at least they can't be found in the Japanese wiki.
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>>182312141
End of the month in the patch accompanying the first round of nerfs.
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>>182312251
The only reason im playing it is cause i got 2 and i still feel disgusted whenever i use it, that shit is plain unfair
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A reminder that Nephthys is beautiful.
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>>182311187
I actually got fed up with Lion+full Alice package because Alice is anti-synergistic with anything Haven, and you still need quite a bit of Haven in a Lion deck. Trying to win with the Alice curve means you're bricking your hand drawing amulets, and if you get Lion early, Alice is pointless. Only Blood gets away with having two anti-synergistic wincons because the Spawn package is only 5 fucking cards, while you need to combo with Lion.
Nutdraws and momposting aside, Neutral Haven is garbage compared to the competition.
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>>182312443
I like her original art more but man, I really want Nephthys sleeves for the deck.
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just heal past 8 bro
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>>182312220
>here, take the best ambush, bane, and storm/banish cards we've ever printed
Abyss aside blood as a craft got way too many good cards this expansion
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>>182311978
>xx does not ficking fit in yy
this is a retarded argument and you know it
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>>182312443
It's gonna be hard to not blow money on her prebuilt.
I love Nepnep.
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>>182312561
Go fuck yourself
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>vs sword
>t3 cinderella
>t4 cinderella
>pops back the other cinderella
>he didn't even attack with it
>awkward pause
>he concedes
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>>182312502
>Will never get to see evo Nephthys in game
boo
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>>182312053
Aegis looks badass though.
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>https://twitter.com/mushimaro8/status/884000806613114880
/svg/s favourite boi
higher res than ingame rips but still a >jpg from twitter
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>>182312690
Ambush is in sword cause it works works overall with other cards amd creed
Shadow reaper has it for 1 turn to fits its own ability to buff on dead people
Heaven has ambush in that 1 card that gets buffed on amulets
Abyss has no fucking need for ambush, mhis ability needs no tiem to build up, nor ambush fits blood
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Wasn't very strong wasn't very useable

"Why did you have to change it?"

It left a big impact

And now it is here
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Why are these smelly demons always taking their shoes off?
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>>182312892
It's usable too. Too bad Rune gets magical big guy. I can just hear those treefuckers laughing with their B&B.
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Don't even need to put/have spawn
just play baph on turn 5 and they concede
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>>182313126
I don't drink and I want to drink that wine.
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>>182313034
i still dont get the whole exchange there
did they change it because it left a "meh" impact somehow?
>wasnt strong and useable
>left a big (????) impact
>ok lets kill it (?????????)
wtf???
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>>182311897
>>182312053
Strangely the normal(?) evolved art looks better than the evolved alt art. It's more detailed and more menacing, I guess.
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>>182312823
The hag deserves it. Did nothing until turn 4 to tribunal a goblin I bet. Taking 13 damage by the start of turn 6 is pathetic. That's howl range. Even a couple Alberts/Alvida would do the same thing.
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>>182308332
I don't think there is such thing. Tove, Scarlet, Emeralda and Spawn outvalue and out-damage everything else super hard.
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>>182313143
>Cygames chose this over Daria

Giant is cool and all but do they not want money anymore?
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>>182313573
Didn't want to spend money on new art. They already used her alternate art for dimensional shift.
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>>182313342
Try to imagine they change anomaly to spawn. Anomaly can actually otk if they pulled it off while spawn only deal 16 damage. In comparison spawn is very boring. They want to see a huge 20 damage character because they think that is cool and left an impact in the player's mind. The playtesters never care about how the card will do in a meta, they just like cards that is cool and strong in a vacuum.
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>>182313689
How much does it cost Cygames to produce 1 card?
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I think Daria and Oz should beat the shit outta each other. There can be only one ultimate witch, manipulator of the Rune craft.
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>>182313713
>The playtesters never care about how the card will do in a meta

That's literally their job though
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>>182313834
yeah that's the point
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>>182313834
It's obvious by now their testers don't test shit.
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>>182313573
>>182313689
>>182313803
cykagames is all about reusing old stuff(aka rob)
more than half of sv/gbfs design is pure rob dna
>>182313713
so dealing otk is not cool but spawn(16) and phantom cat(4) is? uh
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>open 30 WLD packs
>get 0 legendaries
>open 4 standard packs
>get this
T-thanks cygames. It's not like I only have 2 emblems out of 16.
Fuck you KMR and your rigged gacha games
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>>182309441
*Claudia
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WHY ARE THESE CHANNERU SLEEVES AND EMBLEMS ONLY FOR THE NIPS???? REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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How's everyone /GM grind/?
Started today from 2200 MP and made it this far. I'm gonna get those goddamn sleeves.
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>>182314592
>play Blood for 2 days: the rank
I don't even give a fuck about it anymore.
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>>182314274
what's the french analogue of -chan?

>>182314332
how do they get them?
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>>182285672
I want to make Sofiel a mother
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>>182309973
>tfw when crafted 2 B&B.
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>>182314724
Chattel
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>>182314698
Easier to grind for it now before the month end nerfs. Who knows what'll get changed.
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>>182314592
got it 3 days ago and haven't done anything besides single player missions since
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>>182314724
>how do they get them?
By signing a mobile data plan in japan. It also gives you 3 seer orbs and another 3 after 6 months, plus some vials depending on which plan you choose.
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>>182314797
>chattel (plural chattels)

>Tangible, movable property.
>A slave.

n-nani?
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/chattel
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>>182309675
I want to sniff Vampy's panties!
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why do you fags aways have alucard in hand? fuck you
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>>182314816
I don't care about taking 5 times longer to grind if I can play a deck I like to play.
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>>182315035
that's certainly shopped
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>>182315042
>opponent always has the perfect answer to whatever I do

>all the shit I need is always at the bottom of the deck

Fuck you KMR, I'm not going to buy crystals
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>>182314592
Every time I try playing blood I lose 500 points and just go back to other shit. GM just isn't worth it.
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>>182315191
No shit sherlock. That's the whole point of lewd edits.
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holy shit, spawn really has done a number on thread activity
I understand that it's a long shot, but I hope that this death grip that Neutral/Spawn has on the game at the moment pushes Cygames to finally nerf a legendary card
but we know that gobbo leader and baphomet are going to die for the sins of Alice/Spawn anyway
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>>182315919

>Opponent plays Baphomet on turn 5
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>>182315919
Honestly, the game's just not fun right now.

No matter what craft you go up against, 90% of their deck is the exact same as every other deck. It's really boring. Even more so than ToG's Shadow curve every game.
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>>182315919
>>182316014
>>182316031
forget about netrualcancer, forget about spawnshit
going second is literally auto concede now, every craft can abuse going 1st
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>>182315919
fuck gobbo leader desu
>>
>I initially wanted to quit Shadowverse because of this subreddit. I still remember that moment when WD was teased and I literally slapped my roommate in utter excitement and told her this expansion's going to be great (we both play SV). Finally, a thematic expansion! I was utterly disappointed with TotG because I thought it was going to be super thematic Anyhow, here I was waiting like a gassy seal clapping my hands at every card teaser Cygames released for WD. Oh how I loved every single one of them And that fateful moment two weeks ago when WD was released and I wasn't even disheartened by my lack of luck, having opened 70+ packs and just getting 2 dark alice and 10 golds, I immediately crafted 3 Beauty and the Beasts because duh, Belle, and I'm a forest main and I just really wanted to play every single card there is in this expansion. I was really surprised when me and my friend dueled and he flooded the board with spicy goblins and seasoned with an on curve Alice. My army of dingdongs and roaches and furry couples couldn't handle it and I ended up losing every single duel we had. I was really frustrated, not because of how 'unfair' Alice is, but how I couldn't answer everything happening on the board. I ended up crafting 3 more Elf twins' assault coz they're cuties and just ends up killing that dreadful bitch Alice and that whore goblin leader for 2pp which is really cost effective. So here I am actually improving myself instead of bitching about every other things because I had the mind to put in 3 copies of Lilac, 3 copies of into the looking glass, 3 copies of sylvan justice, and a fuck ton of neutral cards as fuel for the cutie pair twins' assault and for my favorite furry addicted waifu, and hector which is arguably the best waifu in game. And oh the satisfaction it brought me when I finally, finally defeated my friend consistently at around 50% winrate. God I love Alice but she's just really a bitch on curve.
Moving on to why I wanted to quit...
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>>182316413
Burnrune prefers to go second because it benefits so much from evolves and, when it's not a tove, playing a RHR on their 2 drop.
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>>182316506
thats only because levi exists but it doesnt work most of the time, i literally won 4 games in a row without doing much, guess who went 1st
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>>182281336

"h-halfway to getting straight Bs in remedial lessons, are my parents finally proud of me?"
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>>182316506
I'm willing to bet it has a better WR going first
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>>182316486
Why are you blogging on an anonymous board?
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>>182316486
this is the most autistic thing i've ever read relating to children's card games
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>>182316735
>>182316793
sounds like /svg/ desu
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>>182316793
Pretty sure there is that dude who bites his own arm to ease the frustration in previous thread.
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>>182316486
https://www.reddit.com/r/Shadowverse/comments/6mebi1/i_wanted_to_quit_shadowverse_because_of_this_sub/

tldr
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>>182316907
>of_this_sub
reminds me of that anon that said he only has time for sv, /svg/ and sleep
whats the difference
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>went second for the last 5 matches

oh wow, sure got outplayed
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>>182316486
>>182316907
Reddit pls go. And stop stealing our original content.
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>>182317092
>4 1st games on a row
>win them all
>go 2nd one game
>lose
>go 1st again
>win
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>>182317092
>played 30 games today
>went second 16 times
>of those games, I won 14 times and lost twice
You just need to get good.
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>>182317272
Not him, but there is no playing around Tove going second so you can only hope for them not to curve into it. That, or you play neutral blood yourself.
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>>182317272
t. b0
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This is so fucking homo.
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>>182317376
just rite bro
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>>182317376
wat
there's no playing around tove going second if you don't draw one of your 3x 2pp 3dmg removal spells
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>>182316735
>>182316793
>>182316869
>>182316907
>>182317117

Hey 4chan I saw your little thread was dying so I thought I would repost my commentary from the largest english-speaking shadowverse community to help spark discussion and just generally cheer you guys up.
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>>182317092
>go first or second
>win
a mini accomplishment that won't last long
>>
>dog about to go 0-5 in take two

still some enjoyment from this game
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>>182317707
who
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>>182317575
And if you use that 2PP on Tove, they can just play Goblin Leader unchallenged next turn. If it was a 2/2, at least you could force them to trade with your 2-drop and then you kill that leader with the 2PP removal.
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>>182317376
Just don't let him draw Tove, bro.
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>>182317481
is this the manwho, a dj or the anthology?
also isnt she a fake dyke? muh hime-sama muh redemption, i fucking hate erika
>>
>Have two accounts
>always (and I mean ALWAYS) only get sets of meme legendaries on my main account so I always end up having to go with meme decks to save vials
>my alt account gets the meta legendaries
Why you do this to me Cygames?
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>>182318116
Just switch to your alternate account then.
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>>182318328
My main account is the one with my steam games
I mean look at this shit

3x Eidolon
4x Minthe
3x Roland
3x White Wolf
3x Neph
2x Atomy
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>>182317585
>I photoshopped someone's face on spawn of the abyss pls upvote xD

Fuck off reddit nigger
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>>182318509
>4 desert rider
S-s-support soon, so stay tune!
Roland is good in the control sword variant along with Timmy
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>>182306047

>Thought the neutral expansion was going to help neutrals with amazing hail merry combos and strategies
>It only just adds crazy over powered fucked cards and calls them neutrals instead

Not what I was expecting.
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>>182318647
Why would you expect anything less after what RoB and ToG gave us?
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>>182318647
>mfw matusokas figher will never be playable
>mfw nf
fuck them
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>>182318608
I also had a 4th Wolf until I vialed it. I just cannot explain why my pull luck in this game is so black and white.
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>>182318608
I had a lot of fun last set playing CShadow with Minthe as a combo piece for cards like Squasher/DB/Mummy/Tyrant
I think that set's a bit a lot too slow for the Spawn meta, unfortunately
I can't even say "the current meta", the words that come out first are "the spawn meta"
I'm disgusted
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>>182317481
>being a bigot in the year of 2017
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>>182318509
C'mon anon, don't you like meems
there's no hope for this card r-right?
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>>182319076
There's hope for any card if they purposely design something to combo with it.
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>>182319076
we need something thtat can buff xxx dragons on evolve, bam dragonflute is t0
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>>182310486
>play this
>tove simply kills it so the goblins can come out without any issue
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>>182317707
>he actually had fun going 2-3
I wish I was new again
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>Opponent is beating me all game.
>I play Baphomet and win on turn 7 anyways
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>>182318829
Now that I think about it, Minthe is one of the few cards that forces a defensive response from Spawn blood. Assume blood goes first. If Baphomet gets played on turn 5 and suicides into your followers, leaving an empty board, turn 5 Minthe makes the blood player worry about turn 6 Tyrant and 13+3+2 face damage. So he can't safely play turn 6 spawn without evolving spawn to kill Minthe.

Of course, there's still the neutral package to worry about.
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>>182319374

Story of my fucking life. I stopped playing AA and only do my dailies in unranked. I can't get any consistent wins cause of Blood. It's worse when you notice they take pity on you for their 16face damage turn. My losses are only attributed to only having one "good" meta deck.

The power creep has fucked up this game so much you can't even get meme wins anymore.
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>>182319424
and the 8 damage you take to face leaving a body on the board, with 2 more of those guaranteed damage drops left in his deck
in my experience, control vs. spawn leads to you getting grinded down with all the guaranteed damage that dropping a spawn provides
spawn simply does way too many things for it to be meaningfully countered with the cards that we have, with the sole exception of Mutagenic Bolt (bouncing him only delays the damage, not remove it)
>>
Do we have any info from Cygames on the prebuilts yet?

I need like 3 dragon, 2 shadow, and 1 haven.
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>>182299084
>>182319585
read the thraed next time
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>Phantom Cat draws 2, deal 4 damage
>Also gain enough neutral cards for Hector's effect to proc.
This sure is dirty as hell, but it is fun.
>>
>Dog already got 5 legos in 10 packs
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>recieving 2 CoCKs
Whew
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Spellboost bros, tell me what the wonderful stuff from wonderland is.

That night on bald mountain guy seems okay but he's not actually a spell.
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>>182319648
I meant when they were coming out. Obviously I know what's in the lists if I know how many I need of each. Or do you think I was giving random numbers?
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>>182319726
slut
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>>182319773

>Implying spellboost got any good cards this expac
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>>182319705
>8 legends in 30 packs
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>>182319773
Daria. You need to kill Oz.
You already know, right?
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>>182319856
and good riddance, the spellboost keyword is broken on a fundamental level and always will be, unless they errata minimum costs in.
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>>182319726
tfw not a single cock and no dust to craft them

i pity that i spent dust crafting 2x spawn, i thought it would be a fun deck but i rather play phantom cat instead, more fair and i like aggro more than midrange with a wincon
>>
Alice likes goblin dick!
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>>182319076
What about Fafnir ?
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>>182319959
Theoretically it can just keep getting better every expansion as it gets more options.

That's probably why Neutral and Rune got shitty spells in Wonderland.
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>>182319585
>>182319805
They are too busy dealing with the chaos that is neutralblood at the moment to try to shill us some prebuilts.
>trying to sell anomeme and magical big guy
They mad.
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>>182319773
>night on bald mountain guy
nani
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>>182320116
i think they are having a timing issue, im pretty sure they should have come out by now but can you imagine
>hey guyz heres the new premades to help everyone get into the gaem
>btw nerf next month, probably :^))))))))
not even cykagaems could be this shameless
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>>182319895
>daria is dorothy in Japanese
Yo what the fuck. I guess Dorothy became a wicked witch?
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Haven't touched the game in awhile. What should I liquefy to craft new stuff?

I'll probably keep Belphegor no matter what, though.
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>>182319895
that's only if you are french, otherwise daria needs to ask wizardess of oz to return her to kansas
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So what makes wincons are there in forest?
Also what makes a card,combo a wincon?The amount of damage it does,stickyness?
As while i have some fun decks there is simply no wincon in them so in the end i'll lose.
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>>182319726
Way too lewd
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>>182301042
most of those are good outside ginger and anomeme, but tehy could get support next exp
maybe fairy princess?
>bepfag
>>182301042
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>>182320390
>Also what makes a card,combo a wincon?The amount of damage it does,stickyness?
easiness to end the game if you pull it
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>>182320003
I have only one of those, but they're pretty bad. Wrath drake does a better job at clearing the board and is more flexible (can play at 5 to clear small tokens or damaged followers; or at 8 for massive damage) and it's a silver.

The only advantage Fafnir has is the beefy body, but if you're playing ramp dragon (where this card should go) you have better stuff to play late game, like Bahamut, Ouroboros, PoD (I wish) or even Genesis Dragon
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>>182320240
Archfiend Awakened?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLCuL-K39eQ

Yo dawg I heard you liked Disney
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>>182320249
>not even cykagaems could be this shameless
Where do you think we are?

>>182320483
Wasn't this exp supposed to be ginger's exp or something?
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>>182320483
>>182320273
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Does anyone have any experience with the last words midrange necro on gameai? The one that uses haunted house and demon eater?
If so, when and why do you use haunted house? Do you ever drop it on turn 1?
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>>182320003
he was powercreeped by baha and then again by wraith drake

>>182320526
what;s pod?
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>>182319856
I actually use Mr Heinlein in my Daria deck
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>>182320560
>Wasn't this exp supposed to be ginger's exp or something?
They said in the future, not the next expansion.
We assumed it was going to be the next because you know, the right thing to do. But Cygames doesn't give a fuck and will only make her viable 3 expansions from now.
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>>182320256
That's type-moon tier lore.
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>>182320617
Prince of Darkness
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>>182320273
Tsubaki, Anomaly, Israfil, Fairy Princess, Lucifer, Olivia, and Ginger are all bad.

Queen Vampire is also trash but you cant liquefy the alt art ones.
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>forest dailies
I should just rope, right?
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>>182320920
D0?
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>>182320920
>>182320273
Tsubaki is a strictly worse version of a Blood goldseriously what the fuck cygames, but she's still a staple card for slow sword, Luci and Olivia are wallet staples that will always come back into favor
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>>182320390
Just do the roach or Arriet B&B.
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>>182321084
how the fuck is olivia going to come back into favor
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>>182320697

>Disaster...my only desire.
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>>182320256
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dorothy_Gale
>Dorothy's best friend Princess Ozma officially makes her a princess of Oz later in the book series.
Well
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>>182320920
>Tsubaki
>Lucifer
>Israfil
E rank?
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>>182321178
How is Soul Dealer going to be used?
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>>182321241
answer the question
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>>182320920
t. Beginner 1
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>>182320920
>Tsubaki
>Israfil
>Lucifer
>Olivia

>bad

>>182321050
make pure neutral tempo
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>>182320920
F0?
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>>182321327
I did. I'm said you're retarded for thinking that a card that is bad now will be bad later. Everyone thought SD would never see play ever. Then ToG happened. There's no reason that those other legos won't come back into relevance later down the line.
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>>182321178
any time the meta slows down to a point where control becomes a reasonably common decktype, Olivia sees play, since she's a pretty easy way to swing control v. control
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>>182321053
>>182321238
>>182321358
>>182321361

>Standard legendaries
>ever
>Anything above 5pp that doesn't win the game on the spot
>in Wonderland Dreams

Your cryogenic sleep must have been comfy, welcome back.

>B-but muh potential! They're really good in games that last 25 turns, those totally exist!
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>>182321241
Damn dude, really got me there. A blood deck that used him for some weeks and then people took him out because he wasn't necessary really proves your point.
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>>182321524
>control
Not a chance, jp celerymen hate slow game and cycuck listen to them.
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>>182321594
>standard legendaries
Cerberus would like to have a word with you about these past 4 card sets
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>>182321524
doesn't even need control, can be simply used in ramp
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>>182321594
(You)
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>>182321524
This. Olivia breaks late boards wide open. Late evos are stronger than early evos, you just rarely have the luxury of being able to put them on your Mordecai or Aegis.
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>>182321594
These people think that the next expansions aren't just going to have another Spawn and Alice, thus you need to keep relics of the first expansion.
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>>182321627
>people took him out
No, they made a version without him because people vialed his ass like idiots or didn't want to craft him. The deck that ran him was superior to the SD-less version. That still doesn't refute the central point that vialling legos that aren't straight up power-creeped like Fafnir is a terrible idea.
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>>182321594
truly a D0
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I finally managed to quit guys, I'm free
It was fun while it lasted
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>>182321594
(You)
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>>182321897
autismo fucker
look at that dong
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>>182321594
Yeah, bro, just liquify everything that isn't Alice and Spawn. That'll do very good for you.
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>unpacked 2 spawns and an animated alice
fuck
guess i'm joining the neutralcancer
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>>182321754
I've been playing since Standard so I still get that sudden feeling of "oh shit that's a strong card" when I see shit like Olivia, Daria, etc.

But times change and we have to move on. The fact of the matter is, pretty much all legendaries before RoB are now worthless with a tiny handful of exceptions
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What's it missing?
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>>182321897
See you tomorrow anon!
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>>182322323
Spawn.
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>>182322323
Spawn
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>>182322323
Spawn, Alice, Tove, neutrals
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>>182322323
2 cards
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>>182322359
>>182322386
You guys can't just put a bullshit card into a deck with a completely unrelated wincon and have it work, guys....oh, wait.
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>>182322062
>implying the game isnt power creeped to fuck already
>implying next expansion isn't going to power creep WD

Either that or we have a set rotation, either way there's no point in holding on to your hopes of ever playing those cards.

You had your chance to play decks in ranked that are slower than modern T2 decks, but those days are over. It's time to move on, to the golden age of the nippon businessman.
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>>182321594
>reddit spacing
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>>182322431
Oh and Baph of course
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>>182322323
emeralda and/or possibly alucard
you need vengeance-related storm followers
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>>182322323
the concede button?
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>>182322494
>the golden age of the nippon businessman
Thank you.
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I'm pretty sure that Control Forest and Control Haven are going to be reasonably strong once neutral and blood get nerfed. Too bad Aegis is overpowered.
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60454

I need a private concede, please.
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>>182322779
Rune is the strongest. Don't kid yourself.
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>>182322779
>control forest
What the hell is that?
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>>182322779
>Control Forest
That shit isn't even a deck.
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>>182322915
>>182322915
>>182322915
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>>182322779
>Aegis is overpowered.
C rank?
>Control Forest
D rank?
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>>182322779
I actually expect Haven to get weaker. Right now any aggro that isn't Shadow is destroyed by Neutral due to body trading being easy for Neutral. Haven has great tools to deal with Shadow and Neutral, but it's always been weaker to low and fast aggro decks and nothing has really changed that this expansion. Aggro Sword and Aggro Blood are being kept out by neutral but they might be back once their counters are in check.

I definitely see some version of Forest rising though. Not sure what.
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>>182322779
>control forest
nani?
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>>182309973
>tfw crafted Spaw in first day and then I only playing rune and shadow to prey on bloodniggers
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>>182322494
>set rotation
I will quit if they pull that shit.
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