/dadg/ - Darkest Dungeon General

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>>182279474
What the fuck happened to the last thread?

>/dadg/ met their fate by a vile Pokemon Fucker

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Those were a lot of lewd pokemons in the catalog all of a sudden.

Also, shrieker is way beyond my league even if I upgrade my gear right now, right?

>>182279797
It's like that for other /vg/ threads

REELING
GASPING

>>182279474
MANY JANITORS KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING.
BUT NOT THIS ONE.
NOT TODAY.

Did we caught a glimpse of the crawling chaos under /vg/?

>>182279860
Yup, but all you have to do is survive the encounter

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>>182279797
spambot from /vp/ decided to fuck up /vg/

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>>182279704
Getting off my lawn.

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>>182279474
>Musketeer (Latest):
https://mega.nz/#!knwx0AwI!MbmPZaqrp_1Fn1AvhMqI5xQb8Lm51IMsHEqV_7mljQ4

>Independent Musketeer:
https://mega.nz/#!mQhEjBzJ!buCaSN21puWm5YriOo7EJaFdpIg32jTj6qyr1g8Qh5k

>Clean Steam dump of Musketeer:
https://mega.nz/#F!VgNAWbZL!pfRpfyjM0S_2hhOgZpjOXw

>/dadg/'s very own Anon-made fem-Abom
http://www.nexusmods.com/darkestdungeon/mods/405/?

What should my fourth skill on the Flagellant be? I'm figuring Punish, Exsanguinate and Redeem are the default, and I've been running Rain of Sorrows but basically never used it.

Are the extra trinket mods any good? Any specific recommendations?

>>182280371
Can you explain me the purpose and difference between each musketeer file? I'm retarded, thanks.

>>182280753
Suffer or Reclaim

>>182280753
You'll hardly use rain of sorrows due to being able to hit position 3, but then again, I can't recommend a better skill.

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>>182279474
>Continued from last thread:
How do we save the Crusader?

So whats the consensus on quality custom classes?

I've been using the Puglist, the Martyr, and the Cannoner and they seem pretty okay so far.
Martyr might need a nerf but its interesting at least

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Well he didnt wipe me but pretty close

My party set up was awful, lucky I survived

Crusader could do nothing except hit pews and I stupidly kept using duelist advance ibnstead of just shooting him, could have won alot easier

>>182280753
Suffer for free bleed/blight heal on party members and getting Flag's health down

>>182281069
Zealous Accusation - -30% damage, now gives bonus vs. cultists and unholy.
Inspiring Cry - same, but move +1

>>182281069
Like some anon said, he feel pretty bland because he's one of the first hero made.
So we need to make him be able to do more things like guard with the Bulwark

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reminder the only reason this game didn't drop dead a month after being released is the art style and narrator
gameplay is just a fucking grindfest, but the narrator makes it sound amazing.

Anybody got the sound effects for jester

I want a text alert battle ballard

>Glory and gold ? Count me in

Is Rallying Flare worth taking for anything other than Swine God? Seems like it has some utility in the Weald.

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>Houndmaster crits
>PRESS THIS ADVANTAGE, GIVE THEM NO QUARTERS
>Houndmaster: No quarter given!

>>182282201

CC monster and the Fanatic got some nasty bonus damage against market targets.

Still the rush shot speed could be handy to take the mosquitos first

>>182280371
If I make the OP again, I'll add those.

>>182281510
>Inspiring Cry - same, but move +1
That would be more annoying than helpful imo.

>>182281069
main issue is he is SLOW as fuck and he brings nothing another class could do better

only real unique thing is he can stress heal form the front lines

he also does nearly nothing to any of the new enemies in veteran or champion since he cant do shit vs prot or touch the backline

ive never had a situation where i think "damn if only i had a crusader for this" closest would be vs the necromancer, but thats it

leper is in a similar position

pros:
stress heals
tanky
can raise torch
stops nighttime ambush

cons:
shit speed
can't hit backline outside of holy lance
shitty heals
no way to tank besides self marking
cant do shit in the back besides holy lance and stress heal
worst stun?

>>182283169
Perhaps +/- 1? Or perhaps Guard has him move back 1, cry move forward 1?

do i have to fight a shambler for all the ancestor trinkets or can i just get them all from the long champ missions?

Would I be too much of a pussy if I installed that mod that expands the base numbers of the roster aviable?

All I have are some class mods but I ditched and stopped using them as I felt they were OP, but I kept my save till that point.

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>>182285506
There's three of them you only get from Shambler
...I don't actually know if he gives anything besides those three?

>>182285612
completing a mission inside the DD technically increases your roster by 4 since the heroes that complete a mission inside no longer count towards the max

>>182285817
which ones? wiki lists that he can drop 5 total, but does not mention if they only drop from shamblers

>>182285506
You can get one shambler trinket from beating DD1.

>>182284064
yeah but he's *fun*
i know that's a horrible arguement but he only exists to have a 4 man deus vult and just keep using holy lance battle heal smite and the stress heal if needed

especially against the prophet

How do I git gud vs the fanatic? Hes fucking killed 3 people already.

>>182281069
Bring back the old busted version of holy lance

>>182286450
destroy the pyre

>>182286450
Get MaA to defend your main damage dealer

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Post your autism /dadg/
>I take a screenshot everytime a hero become virtuous and put in a a folder for my collection
>If i have the money i send heroes to the tavern/church so they can enjoy themselves while waiting for their turn

>>182281069
I only use the crusader like this: vest/hwm/crs/leper
So he can help leper mowing down the front, then when I need to hit the back I use dualist advance and crusader's lance one after another. I find him very useful like that.

Could you run Crusader for stress heals instead of a Jester? Maybe stack Healing and Protection on him while still having a stun?

Occu > Grave Robber > Abom > Crusader

>Bolster stacking Man at arms with Corvid's Grace and Evasive locked in

LITERALLY unhittable

>>182287124
Print screen doesn't work in this game. How do you take screenshots?

>>182287663
Steams default screenshot button should be F12

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>>182287124
I mentally create relationships between my characters depending on how they crit, stress or deal with each other in camping skills, depending on what happened.

Like, if a plague doctor heals a character, she'll become closer to that character and will want to go with them more often.

It's less autist than it sounds, but it does create some good stories in my head like a Plague doctor that became in love with a Flagellant but he ignored woman due to several crits against those stresfull bitches in the ruins, or a MaA that married an antiquarian then she died during a shambler ambush, got drunk at the tavern and since then refuses to go with another antiquarian.

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>>182287649
>having both quirks
>spam Bolster during Garden Guardian
>still eat every single Plummeting Doom

>>182286450
Barb, MaA, arab, HM. HM and MaA need guard skills - they will guard the other two from rockfall. MaA also needs his dodge buff skills, both active one and camping. HM should have selfheal. Dodge and prot items and quirks would be welcome; you should probably focus on increasing HM's dodge and MaA's prot. Barb is the main damage dealer, she stands in front, so get a camp buff for that. Arab should heal and debuff prophet's damage (so said the wiki; I suspect it was changed recently, though, and damage debuff may not work on rocks). I killed him that way with ease - in a long way.

>>182287846
Sounds comfy tbqh

>>182287626
>Grave Robber > Abom
Nigga please, abom is best hero.

>>182287846
that sounds like some fucking actual autism

>>182288228
>>182288567

It's less autist than you think. I don't write down anything so I just try to remember everything, so I often make mistakes or do't remember things properly.

I always do this in games that let me create my party and customize them, and one with permadeath like DD is a perfect fit since characters can carry the pain of a friend/lover death over the game. Like it gives them a reason to keep going or leave.

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>>182288235
Reread that more carefully.

>>182287649
Only takes a couple bad rolls. Remind yourself lest you lose him and those nice quirks

>>182288949
What?

>>182288949
use hyphens or slashes to separate heroes when you're writing team compositions, not less-than symbols

>>182289392
You could try learning what context is.

>>182289495
you could try accepting that crusader is a shit class but I'm not the one calling people out when i fuck up

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>>182289974
SALTY KEK

>>182289974
How fucking stupid are you?

all CC boss trinkets suck

>>182290358
baron's lash is okay for the siren, but otherwise yeah, every trinket involving having the crimson curse is hot trash

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>>182289974
At least take this (you) as a comfort

>>182281069
Nothing, he is good as is. He is one of three characters that can do a targeted stress heal (other two being Jester and Flagellant) along with it being capable of taking someone off of death's door. He can get shuffled to the back and still not be useless due to holy lance and it is often better to just have him start in rank 3/4 so you can do holy lances on the back line in the first round. He has a decent stun and stuns are always useful along with good damage.

>>182289495
He is right, though not only that a Crusader cannot be in an Abomination party.

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>Wizened Hag
>reach the boss room
>everyone's full health, stress below 50
>torch at ~80 ish
>go in
>immediately throws a person into the pot
>hit pot to get person out
>practically all of HP gone, at death's door, what the fuck is going on
>meat tenderizer then another person into the pot
>barely get any actions, she's doing into the pot + meat tenderizer combo for days
>into the pot you go
>into the pot you go
>into the pot you go
>meat tenderizer's everyone for the final KO
>come back to town empty handed and broken
F-Fuck.

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So I went ahead and did some changes to the Jester based on the discussion on the previous thread. The changes (and issues because i am kinda scrub at this) in particular are

>Dirk stab gets a +10/15/20/25/30% bonus DMG vs bleeding. Tried to make it a raw damage bonus using damage_high_add instead of damage_high_multiply (and the same with damage_low) but it wouldn't show on the tooltip and it wouldn't actually have an effect (tried it vs bleeding and non-bleeding)
>Harvest DMG mod decreased from -50% to -33% (same as harvest, still targets 2+3), and can be used in pos 432 instead of only 32
>Slice Off targets pos 14, moves you back 1 space and can be used in pos 321 instead of only 32. The idea was that the skill would have a 100% chance to target an additional target (.extra_targets_count 1 .extra_targets_chance 1.0) so it would target 1+4 instead of only 1. However it doesn't work when I try it out, it only targets 1. Perhaps it is better this way, Harvest is pretty good with that simple dmg change
>Both Slice Off and Harvest add +20% DMG to Finale
>Adding to this: I couldn't for the life of me figure out how to change the duration of the finale buff to make it last the whole battle (I tried copying what was written in Bulwark of Fate but didn't work) nor how to increase the % amount increased (it doesn't appear in effects.darkest and I am clueless as to where it is)

I can upload the effects.darkest and jester_info.darkest if you want to try it out and see if he is still shit or not. I certainly find him more fun now. I tried that both builds (Static one and finale one) remained viable and good

>>182292456
>focusing the pot

They get out whenever they reach death's door, just get a couple of Occs to heal the damage and focus on the hag

>>182292456
the Hag is a DPS race, you need to kill her before your dudes get roasted

And don't bring a Leper to that fight, at most, you'll leave leprosy juices on the soup

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>>182292621
>Occ
>heal the damage

Hero corpses Y/N?

>>182280371
Need a quick rundown on the Independent Musketeer. Is she her own class? How balanced is it?

>>182292946
Sure. Keeping position-sensitive heroes in place and possibly distracting enemies with a corpse would take some of the sting out of a hero death.

That would take a fair amount of art, though. I'd rather be able to see armor/weapon upgrades on heroes.

New player here. How difficult are veteran missions? Most of my guys are level 2 now.

>>182292456
If you focus on freeing your guys from the pots eventually everyone will be at low HP rather than one person. I nuked her with my Abomination.

>>182292946
Yes. It'd help not having backliners dragged out of place because of dead heroes

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>>182293208
Don't bother taking underleveled heroes to a higher-tier mission. They'll start with around 33 stress, and they will be singled out by enemies.

Only do that if it's a necessity (ex: your roster is full, and you need to train up one newbie), and strongly consider bringing a Man-at-Arms/Houndmaster to protect the underleveled hero.

>>182293208
You want level 3s and 4s for veteran

>>182293208
Veteran are fine, avoid Long missions while you get used to them

Champion is where the difficulty spike will beat the shit out of you

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>first time playing
>ignore antiquarian for 18 weeks because her abilities looks like absolutely garbage
>one of the threads I learn about her looting abilities and campaign skills
>well I usually have just enough money to next week's dungeon because I tend to lock on nice quirks like +accuracy/speed/PROT so why not?
>mfw after my first medium dungeon
Fuck progression, boss fights and that faggy ancestor. I'm farming glittering gold, trinkets and baubles now.
Does bringing more than one antiquarian get me more blings too? Honestly only downside is inventory is too small for all these things.

>>182293851
Each Auntie multiplies how much gold you can stack

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>>182292796
>unbelieving infidels

>>182294450
I got my first 0+bleed today. Thankfully it was just a random battle in a hallway

>>182292586
neat, are there any class re-balance mods?

upload it once you feel its ready

>>182293851
odd the game doesn't make it clearer she increases gold found

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Hi, I just got the game. What is happening here?

>>182295149
try verifying game files, something happened to his spirtesheet

>>182293208
Is that the sound of over confidence? Try them.

>>182295149
he's just that fast

>>182295149
>Grievous injury, palpable fear...

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>>182295269
Okay it downloaded some new files and now it looks like this? Sorry my computer is not very good.

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>>182281069
All what crusader needs is to mark more enemies as unholy.
>if vampires arent unholy, what are they?

>>182281069

Smite: 50% damage vs Undead.
Zealous Accusation: Attack type changed to Melee, provides +8 Light.
Battle Heal: Affects entire party. Heals 4-5 HP, raises speed by 1.
Holy Lance: Can be used from Rank 2.

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>>182295735
Why is it always Dismas that this sort of thing happens to?

>>182295735
I think your Dismas has autism

>>182281651
I like it because it's pretty punishing and you get to be creative with your party and builds.

These days too many games hold your hand too much it's refreshing to see games like this.

>>182295934
he has no resolve.

>>182295149
Dismas had already seen cosmic horrors and trying to fade out from existence.

>>182295149
>my ancestors did this

>>182295149
2FAST

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>>182282201

Marks are all over Champion Weald, apply to multiple targets at once, and Virago and Scratchers will crush people that have them. Crones, Witches and Ghouls are also common and have moves that reduce torchlight.

Seeing as you need to run Marked for Death for an even remotely viable party, it's a very value slot. Kill the markets, use flae, and then you can use your remaining turns more efficiently.

>>182286450

2 Hellion + 2 Vestal was my thing.

Bleed Out, Breakthrough and If It Bleeds on Hellion. Spam Divine Comfort on the vestal.

He has lots of turns where he just sprinkles AoE damage to get deathblows on heroes burned by the pyre, relying on your positioning being all out of whack. So just bringing endless sustain and hellions who can attack from nearly any position is enough to survive.

>>182295914
I want this as an actual skin.

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>fighting necromancer lord
>vestel has 197/200 stress and machocistic
>leper is irrational
>arbalest is selfish
>houndmaster gets to 100 stress
>"I cannot - I WILL not - falter in the pursuit of evil!"
>get a crit on the necromancer
>and another crit
>bleeding stacks up to 10 damage per round
>Mercy is for the courts!
>saved vestel from a heart attack
>mfw

Have you guys had any clutch moments happen?

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>>182287846
>Like, if a plague doctor heals a character, she'll become closer to that character and will want to go with them more often.

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>>182297335

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>>182297473

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>found a secret room in the viscount map not on the wiki's map
>3 fundies rescuing an abom

>>182297587
neat

Should i try and beat Vvulf or just sacrifice some level one character and move on? How hard is he really?

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>>182297335

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>>182297559

>>182297778
Pretty easy, especially now after the nerf. Better to get it over with now, just bring a MaA along and you'll do fine.

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Who's the Goblin Slayer of Darkest Dungeon?

>>182297341
>those freckles
Oh fuck, source please.

>>182297778
he's a lot easier after he was nerfed a few patches ago, if you have a fully upgraded lvl 5/6 party, including a m@a, i'd go for it

>>182297992
Crusader obviously

>>182297992
Bounty Hunter.

>>182297559
Heartily keked.

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>>182297882

>>182297778
I just beat him. Here are some protips:
Don't attack the bombs, make your M@A protect the person who has the bomb, bring an occultist with healing and weakening curse,
Remind yourself that overconfidence is a slow and insidious killer.

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shrews are pretty cool dudes

New player here. Which healer does the most healing per turn on average between occultist and vestal?

>>182298414
W H A T

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>>182298414
>>182298897
scored again

>>182298670
Vestal if party healing, occ if single healing

>>182298670
Vestal is more consistent and can counteract AoE damage with her AoE heal. Occultist can dole out full health heals, even without a crit with the right trinkets. But there's always the chance of 0+Bleed.

>>182298670
you can get trinkets for the vestel that can increase healing, which also apply for the party heal.
But basically what >>182299063 said. Bring occultist if you have heros that can self heal like a leper. Also bring bandages if your heros are low-level, as they'll be more likely to get the bleed debuff from the heal.

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BEST

BOY

>>182292946
Would be sick. Haven't thought about hero corpses since I first started playing the game, but I think they'd make a good (optional?) addition in future dlc. Imagine your favorite hero, the one that carried your ass through all your champion expeditions, reduced to a twisted and broken heap of mangled flesh and bone, just another faceless token of carnage to be scourged and trampled as the battle continues. Simply having the hero sprite fade away to black gives the death too much dignity. Leaving a corpse would be far harsher, and thus far better.

plutomania can fuck up wine crates

>>182295149
Dismas has just been cavorting with the eldritch horrors.

>>182292946
Yes, they have thought about it, but the time it would take wouldn't be worth it or something

>>182300045
>Allowing your heroes to retain any curio-related manias
Foolish.

Is there a "time limit" to this game? I've just been leveling my guys and hording gold and I've noticed the numbers above the dungeons keeps going up, does that mean anything?

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I fucking hate having unsorted heaps of items, and this game just showers you with trinkets.

On principle I tend to always sell grey ones, and sometimes greens, but it's still a ton.

Can anyone help me sort out the bad trinkets so I have some better oversight?

>>182300708
that's your progress towards unlocking a boss mission, the game only has a time limit in new game+

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Guys this team should be able to beat veteran hag right?

>>182300708
hard mode has a 100 week limit to kill final boss

other modes do not have a time limit

once final boss dies in hardmode timer is removed

Uploaded my current crappy fix of the Hellion topless skin.

http://www.nexusmods.com/darkestdungeon/mods/408/?

>>182300729
i hoard 1 of each in case i ever need something specific

candle, legend bracer, martys seal, herb, HWM sheath, dog vest, are all pretty useless imo

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Can I pull this off? I'm tempted.

All are upgraded really well, ranging from levels 3-5 on a Veteran run. They have a lot of anti-Eldritch buffs too.

If it is a good idea what're anons' advice on taking the bastards down? I killed the Shambler before his minions last time and got absolutely trounced.

>>182301470
you have to strike a balance between both, stick to farming apprentice ones where you can kill them before the adds get out of hand

>>182301470
always kill the clapperclaws, the shambler is squishy and can die to collateral from your aoe abilities

>>182301470
I think you can manage, but unless you need the trinkets, I wouldn't bother. They all have pretty good reach, just make sure they can always hit the Shambler with something and keep the small ones blighted/bleeded. Retribution and Guard on MaA is obviously a must.
Also pre-shuffling your party, especially if it's a group that doesn't have great coverage, can be helpful since you will always be ambushed.

>>182300708
There's only a time limit on "Hard mode". The numbers above dungeons is just progress towards the next boss of that area.

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What's up /dadg/

I'm on my way to kill Veteran Swine Prince for Arbalest trinket.

>Crocodilian
>Lv. 3 enemy
BULLSHIT

>>182301932
>>182300878
>>182300803
Cool, thanks.

>>182301975
currently setting up a team for a champion STEAL THEIR FOOD mission, wondering if i can get away with Occ/BH/Hellion/Leper to take out the skivers

>>182302169
Is that the Bumber Crop mission? What does that event do again?

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Where MEGA ?

>>182302223
free provisions for your next mission, really helpful when clearing out the courtyard where 3 stacks of food goes a long way

>>182302223
free provisions during next quest

>>182302223
I think it reduces/removes prices for food in the next expedition

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>>182284064
I always thought it was really strange that this game has a stat listing for protection, but it's only there to be filled in by buffs or trinkets.

Like, nobody has a natural protection rating, which is odd because a guy in full plate armor, the crusader, is as vulnerable to attacks as a jester is.

I always thought it'd be kinda neat to give certain characters an innate protection rating, and reduce their health a bit to balance it out or make up for it.

Crusader could have a base 10% prot, or something, to make him a bit more of an actual tank like he is as a frontliner, and make him a bit stronger instead of a kind of mediocore but certainly usable character.

IT always struck me as strange that his zealous accusation doesn't do bonus damage to unholy.

>>182302075
I think the worst part is the huge debuff resist, makes mitigating all its self buffs troublesome.
I'm kind of interesting in how the Crimson Curse works though. It seems like being infected with it long enough degenerates the carrier into some kind of bloodsucking insect hybrid.

>>182302543
enemies have innate prot

not to mention every stat needs a listing, prot base is just 0% for the player characters

>>182302543
Dude are you me. I've been playing since early access before the Cove, and these were some of my first complaints.

>>182281087

Cannoneer is the only one that's balanced

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>you know what, giving the 12 pounder ONE turn to shoot should be fine
>mfw I am reminded
welp there goes my anti stress amulet for my abom and my occ cauldron

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>>182298994
>>182298897
>>182298414
guess i shouldn't have ignored the shrews in the baron mission

>>182303132
did the pounder wipe you with BOOM or did the minions get you?

>>182300851
xD

>>182303150
I gave every single Shrew blood and I never got green or higher quality trinkets. Fuck those jews.

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>>182303280
Well, they killed the bitch pretty handily
My plan was that it doesn't matter if an antiquarian goes in the pot, so I took two antiquarians, and it paid off

>>182303506
You and me both, man. It's also some grey dodge trink.

BAH, I SAY BAH!

>>182303632
>it doesn't matter if an antiquarian goes in the pot
You should've taken 4 in that case

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>>182297335

>>182303809
I might try that for the champion run but I dunno
The giant fights were already dicey enough

>>182303268
put everyone on DD or close, then got cleaned by blanket fire and slice and dice

>>182280994
All of these functions as Arbalest reskins
>Musketeer (Latest)
replaces some game files (might not work with future updates, no free bandage

>Independent Musketeer
free bandage, caretaker goal (get her to lvl 6), do not overwrite game files, should work with future updates (an attempt by some anon to make her work from older files before backer anon uploaded them, slight differences with below)

>Clean Steam dump of Musketeer
dump of the Musketeer dlc folder by a backer, adds the Musketeer as a variant of the Arbalest class, which is what the dev intended. This is best if you want the least work

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>>182303793
I saw what you did there

>>182303132
I did exactly that for the 8 pounder 'cause I was getting impatient and brought kind of a crappy comp for the boss, and it immediately did 40 damage to my Occultist.

He didn't die luckily, but I was reminded for sure.

>>182297587
Aren't CC maps static? Did you get the other secret room though?

>>182305140
Yeah I got the other one, and they are static. Secret rooms still only show up if you scout them though, so I guess the map creators didn't get a scout where I did.

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>>182281069
Give the poor man some fucking speed. God didn't make Reynauld to be a slothful bitch.

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>>182303903
YOU LUCKY MOTHERFUCKER

>>182302543
>IT always struck me as strange that his zealous accusation doesn't do bonus damage to unholy.
It used to. They patched it 1-2 years ago because it completely made Smite useless.

>>182305246
Oh yea... There's 2 of them now that I'm looking at the map layout excel... The one spawned for you is labelled hidden_room_1. I'll take a look at the other maps as well then.

you lose the firewood if you retreat from a CC mission right?

>>182305883
Correct.

>torches you buy, but don't use, don't carry over on the next adventure
Why is this? Too game-y?

HWM good for the viscount? i want to take one in there since riposte seems like it would be good, but with 4 fucking turns i don't want to risk losing Dismas

>>182306578
Because neither the descendant nor the heroes can be trusted with keeping track of supplies for that long.

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Maybe it does, Vestal. Maybe it does.

Does using backers' trinkets count as cheating?

>>182306781
Have you seen some of those things? And you get them all for free? Of course it counts. But it's a singleplayer game so it doesn't really matter.

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>>182306640
I have a simple solution for you and anyone else who's worried about losing Reynauld or Dismas.
Don't use them at all, or only send them on the lowest-tier mission they can go on with a team of heroes who are as high a level as possible for that mission.
Simple.
>>182306781
Modding doesn't prevent one from getting achievements, regardless of how ridiculously easy it can make the game. Backer trinkets/heroes are only illegitimate if you think they aren't. I think they're fine, but I always forget to use them.

>>182306969
I mean the normal trinkets stats balance is fucking horrible so i might aswell use it right?

Is focus ring better on leper or Arbalist?

Beat my first shambler today. Had Occ, Aunty, Hwm and Maa and just dodge buff and riposted it to death. Feels good man.

>>182307095
You don't need to justify it to 4chan, mate, doesn't affect me if you think stuff like Avalon or Ravenous Lion's Ring is on the same balance level of say, Ancestor's Pen. It's not like you'll get street cred for beating the game regularly anyway, so go ahead and tinker. I wouldn't bother pretending that it makes the game harder by any means.

>>182307830
What week are you on? I did the same thing today with vestal, hm, hwm, maa

>>182308012
Week 27. Its only the second altar I've come across. The first one I tried absolutely fucked me with the shuffling. I only got it to half health before I had 2 death's doors, everyone afflicted and had to run away.

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Since there were missing secret rooms for the maps previously, I made a quick fix

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>>182308494
Can you enter a secret room even if you don't scout it?

>>182308598
Nope.

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>>182308598
Nigga you scout automatically in crimson court dungeons are you high?

>>182308415
What level were you? I just found mine at week 10 at level 2. We barely survived but I had damage boost on hwm

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>>182308494
>Viscout.png
My bad, someone can just dump them into an imgur folder with the other 2 maps (Croc, Baron) and update the OP.

>>182308598
No

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Can I and should I?

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Oh boy that wolf pelt wearing, bombing throwing bandit guy is raiding the Hamlet again. The first time I tried it I went in blind and got my ass handed to me and had a party wipe. Anybody got some protips for me to deal with that bomb throwing FUCK and his shitty bandits?

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>>182308851
>Antiquarian vs. Shambler

>>182308731
Nigga, you still need to scout (not the auto scout) the secret rooms or they won't show at all.

>>182308914
man-at-arms, bleeding classes, vestal

>>182308851
Might depend on how many bandages/antivenom you have.

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>>182308851
Yes
Yes

>>182308742
All my bros were 2. it was a medium apprentice dungeon i was doing for lods of emone.

>>182308995
1 bandage 2 antivenom

>>182309067
lol

>>182309067
>Aunty
>1 bandage 2 antivenom
Call the suicide hotline

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>>182308914
MAA absolutely destroy Vvulf, just protect whoever he decideds to bomb and you should be good
BH is also good and Flag can stack bleeds on him like no tomorrow
>>182308960
aw shit my bad

convince me to turn this game on right now

>>182309067
My verdict: go for it if you enjoy emotional pain. Otherwise, pass on this one.

>>182308914
Abuse guard with any class you want, hell even the Antiquarian can do decent in the Vvulf mission

>>182308851
OVERCONFIDENCE

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>>182298008
You like freckles, so I like you.

https://rule34.paheal.net/post/view/1869120#search=darkest_dungeon

In the end, it's just ok.

not a fan of every CC boss having 3+ turns

>>182310073
bleed value lad

Holy shit using an item while in a battle doesn't use up your turn, why did no one tell me this.

>all those dog treats wasted

>>182310196
you just let your dudes bleed out on their turn?

>>182298670
You are looking at it the wrong way. Both have their uses. Though I am more fond of the Occultist due to his attack skills that also give additional damage toward Eldritch and his damage debuff which he can use from any rank against any rank.

>>182310196
Something I only learned on DD3:

You can set which attacks are active during an expedition, as long as you're not in combat.

>>182301470
You will wreck it with REND REND REND, none-the-less you have a Plague Doctor so you better be throwing down the stuns.

>>182299361
He's a bleed guy

>>182310647
I thought the only way to heal was either waste a turn using an item, or use a character's ability.

>>182310728
This I did know.

Though one thing I learned recently is you can attach trinkets that you earned to empty slots on characters while in the dungeon. You can also use items before you find without having to put them in your inventory first.

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>Fight shambler for the first time
>Everything is going super well, tentacle spawns die in one hit from Leper, PD stacking blight on boss
>Suddenly, 4 turns in, turn order gets fucked up
>Leper acts before two spawns are summoned
>Boss shuffles my shit up
>While I waste time re-positioning he stresses the shit out of my party
>Man at arms afflicted not even 2 rooms in

Is it worth to continue this?
Also I got the ancestor's bottle, how good is that?

Who are the tanks in this game and which are the best?

As best I can tell the tanks are maA, crusader, Leper(tankiest and self heal)

>>182311047
>level 5
I'd leave if I was you. Not worth the risk of more afflictions possible death.

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>>182311047
>doing shambler before you complete the quest

>>182311047
Heart attack city if you go on with it.

>>182311119
flagellant and MaA are the best, you take leper for bigdick frontline damage/intimidate, and crusader as an alternative to killing yourself

>>182311191
Not that guy, but I'll do Shambler pre-quest if I'm willing to ditch the quest entirely.

>>182311191
My fingers were all itchy and I grew overconfident, also I can't be asked to walk back to the start of the level after exploring all the rooms

No bully

>>182311282
I
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SLOW
I
D
I
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S

>>182311191
>doing shambler with no resources left
dumb frogposter

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>>182311191
Sometimes you don't get a choice.

>>182311248
Arent leper with crusader pretty good together?

>>182311382
You left the arbalist in rank 1?

>>182312019
No point when I got shuffled since she had blind fire, none-the-less he used another shuffle attack during the fight. Would be waste of a turn otherwise, especially since I was leap frogging the Highwayman and Grave Robber along with the Crusader.

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>missed two 90% shots

oh kay

>>182312993
This is no place for the weak or the foolhardy.

>>182312993
>get more l̶a̶m̶b̶s̶ ̶f̶o̶r̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶s̶l̶a̶u̶g̶h̶t̶e̶r̶ seekers

New player here. What determines if a character counts as religious or not?

Also does HWM out dps grave digger against bosses that perform multiple actions per turn due to bleed?

>>182313386
Leper, Vestal, Flagellant, and Crusader are all religious.

Bleed? You could be using other skills on both classes.

>>182313458
>Bleed? You could be using other skills on both classes

Dismas bleed attack does high damage and all 3 ticks would activate every turn against bosses like that. If that's how it works.

>>182313658
It just doesn't have the raw damage or crit chance like his Wicked Slice which I find much more useful. Not to say there aren't uses for his bleed attack, it is just that he has more appealing skills, like his duelists advance and point blank shot.

>>182313837
Even with all of the bleed damage activating all at once instead of spread over several turns?

>>182314097
Yeah, I'd rather pick up the kill faster. Though if there are other DoT characters with him to stack blights and bleeds then it can be interesting, but if there really aren't I'd prefer the straight damage.

>>182314418
I dont think you get what I'm saying.

I'm saying that bleeds and blights do not stack against bosses who have multiple actions per turn.

>>182314567
Yeah, I like the heightened crit chance.

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>pelagic tidemaster crit heals bloated thrall you were focusing
>pelagic champion guards it

>>182315221
[ Retreat ]

>on 3rd hag slay
>haven't gotten to boss
>encounter
>Unclean giant and support
>hound master gets CRITTED FOR FUCKING 60 DAMAGE
>PANIC
>get them off death's door
>CRITTED AGAIN FOR FUCKING 60 DAMAGE
I OUT SENPAI

>>182279474
How do I deal with all these crashes? It used to be only on loading a quest and I'd just restart the game and try a different quest but now I'm getting one on loading the Hamlet straight away and I can't clear it! It's usually a trio of errors and usually at least one of them is an error loading a sprite but they change from situation to situation.

Halp plz!

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>>182315638
>crusader critted and on death's door
>use occultist
>heal for 0
>bleeding

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>literally encounterd the Shambler during the last 3 missions i've had in a row
>Was able to kill him fine in the first 1 and finish the mission
>was able to kill him in the second one but took major stress and psychical damage then right after I fucking encountered the Collector and bolted from the mission because fuck that shit I wasn't losing anyone or their trinkets on that
>had to bolt from the third one because my dudes were already beat to hell and I didn't have a stress healer, ended up having to quit the whole mission because it was too dangerous
>oh yeah the rewards from the first two kills were eh as fuck
What the fuck

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Made it to week 62 without a single death, and then this FUCKING crocodile comes along.

I managed to kill him in return, but I'll never forget this humiliation

>>182316195
Perhaps you should try lighting a torch

>>182316396
No.

>>182316372
>he didn't remind himself that overconfidence is a slow and insidious killer

>>182316372
What was your party?

>>182316454
Enjoy shambler ruining your missions then

>>182316516
auntie - abom - abom - hwm

>>182316372
kys faggot. He aoe crit everyone down to death's door round 1 for me

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>>182316396

>>182316647
Not bad.
>>182316520
I'll roll with the punches.

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Viscount killed my Reynauld. How do I cope, /dadg/? What am I meant to tell Dismas?

>>182317783
Tell him to pack his bags and replace him with a higher level highwayman

>>182317783
Keep Dismas safely benched and pray to the dark gods that Reynauld pops up when the resurrection happens.

Remember, the ones you don't bring back to life during the resurrection cease to exist!

"Erased... from existence!"

What kind of trinkets am I supposed to use for MaA? The prot, health, and dodge?

Seems like I'm supposed to attack acc and crit on leper but no clue what to do for maa

>>182318396
Depends what you want to use him for. Guarding then make sure he has some durability. Stunning? Then stun trinkets. Damage? Well that is self explanatory.

>>182318452
But he doesn't seem to excel at damage.

>>182318559
I find him good at it. If you don't like it then you always have the tankier or support stun options that shuffle enemies.

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A HIDEOUS MUTATION

>>182318621
UNNATURAL

>>182318396
I love the Rampart Shield + Dazzling Charm.

Consecutive stuns, even on Champion.

>>182318621
Get FUCKED. Perhaps you should have fucking run from the fight?

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>>182281069
He works fine for me. I love Crusaders. As another anon said put him in the middle with a hwm and have him Lance dance while hwm uses duelist advance. Capable of destroying the backline since DA can hit all rows and activates your hwm's riposte. If you're complaining about his speed, give him the ancestral candle - it boosts his speed to a tolerable level, buffs his already great damage and the stress is a non factor since he can de-stress himself in battle or in camp. Bonus, his in-battle stress heal generates light which keeps the ancestral candle as a sustainable buff.

I'm biased though, as Crusader is my fave class since he is useful in one regard or another on any team (except ones with abom, I guess). Bulwark is pretty much his only useless skill. Bulwark ould be useful if it could guard someone though that might be of limited use in its current "once per battle" incarnation.

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Who here played actionjack's March of the Beasts mod? Pretty fun to get multiple boss/high level fights in sequence, every now and then. I've beaten it a few times before, but today failed all 3 attempts. I just beat a second siren and the swine prince with these three troopers. My ronin, Mishima, went down three fights ago to my own hellion (under the first siren's influence). Let's see how far these clowns get.

>>182318332

What? No they dont. They just go back to being dead in your graveyard.

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>>182292586
As I said before, I don't like all of those changes, but I'm proud you started modding. Darkest Dungeon is piss easy to mod and it's really fun.

Is it worth putting on Bulwark before a boss fight?

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>Dismas wears dismas' head

>>182320487
I am curious, what changes you don't like specifically? DD might be easy to mod, but learning how 2balance takes a while, at least for me.

Is there a way to set a new fucking default party order in a map?

>>182320446
I'd show you how Reynauld is neither in my graveyard nor my roster when I didn't fire him, but I can't be assed to boot the game right now.

>>182320737
So far as I know, once you're walking around in the expedition you're stuck. Enjoy manually adjusting.

>>182320735
Slice Off hitting ranks 1 and 4 seems a bit... pointless? Like there aren't many situations where you want to hit those two ranks specifically (although the same could be said about hitting ranks 2+3, but I think it's a hallmark of Jester at this point).

Adding damage to Finale on skills is still meh, because dropping Finale at later stages is pointless - you already dropped the important targets and are in mop-up stage.

Also, if you want to change the buff to last for the duration of battle, you need to change duration to -1 if I recall correctly.

Balancing is hilarious, because anything fan-made that's strong will be called OP. Bonus point if that effect/skill/whatever is added by the developers later on.

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>>182320309
Swinetaur+skiver; somehow my goons won and all survived. w/e.

>>182321297
>Bonus point if that effect/skill/whatever is added by the developers later on.

To be fair, considering the release-state of Houndmaster, MaA and Flagellant, red hook doesn't have a strong standing as a dev team that never releases OP things

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>fighting flesh
>thought i was prepared
>brought two lepers for damage, occ and vestal for healing
>failed to remind myself

>flesh outdamaging all of the healing I'm outputting
>fighting Death's door with vestal party heal and 0+bleed wyrds
>racing the clock to kill it as fast as possible

>turn 6
>vestal and occ go first, heal poorly
>all four flesh parts move before Lepers
>both heavily blighted and pushed back to Death's door

>back to back survival of blight into perfect chops on weak points

I did it!

>>182321760
The Flesh isn't a boss to be trifled with.

>>182321760
Nice. But God, that party sounds absolutely terrible for that boss. And taking lepers along with occultists in general is a serious gamble w/o bleed resist trinkets. Whatever works, though, I guess.

>>182321297
>
Slice Off hitting ranks 1 and 4 seems a bit... pointless? Like there aren't many situations where you want to hit those two ranks specifically (although the same could be said about hitting ranks 2+3, but I think it's a hallmark of Jester at this point).
I understand this point. To be honest i went for the "well, there is no other skill that does it" approach. as I said, the idea would be that it hit both ranks at the same time but i couldn't get it right, Rank 2+3 are not actually that pointless, considering 2 is usually a damage dealer and 3 a stress dealer so you are targeting both.
I should probably rework Slice off into something else entirely, or at least more than "single-target harvest"

>Adding damage to Finale on skills is still meh, because dropping Finale at later stages is pointless - you already dropped the important targets and are in mop-up stage.
Yes I know that, but I just like the concept, even though I am aware it is fully inferior to old finale.
Perhaps finale could deal increased damage depending on status effects on the enemy? like
+x% dmg if bleeding
+x% dmg if marked
+x% dmg if stunned
or even something like increased damage if HP below a certain treshold. I should toy around and see what happens

>>182321990
>level 5 wyrd bleed chance: 85%
>level 6 leper bleed resist: 70%
>serious gamble

Occultists can be a much better pair with lepers than vestals, since they have dodge reduction as well as the healing firepower that can top up their massive health pool, which is important if you're running the CC set for the accuracy bonus.

>>182322074
You could also consider adjusting finale into a tank-busting skill; you'd use it in the third round or so, after killing the softer targets, and you could still keep the %damage buildup to finale on the jester's other skills. Maybe finale could ignore enemy prot or something, or even deal % hp damage (might be tricky/op against bosses though).

>>182322134
Yeah at higher levels it isn't so bad; I hadn't checked the numbers on it but I did notice those bleeds from wyrd rec. happening less often. For some reason I assumed this was op's first time fighting the flesh, and at low levels the leper bleed resist is pretty painful. I agree that the occ accuracy debuff synergizes well though.

>>182322528
dodge debuff*

>>182321297
i see it as a skill you start and finish with since enemy rank 4 needs to die asap usually and the front line will be weak to bleed in most cases

>>182322074
finale will always be a bad finisher, good "finishers" already exist as mark skills and the BH "Finish Him"

solo will never combo well with finale since solo wants to aoe while finale just blows up 1 target

harvest sucks like most aoe skills and is never used outside of the flesh fight, slice off looks interesting, but could fuck up some team comps since the jester will constantly be moving around

>>182293101
I like her. She loses the heal but gets some other cool toys to compensate.

What light level applies in the Crimson Court dungeon? Does Blood Torch have any effect on artifacts such as sun/moon ring?

>>182323624
Permanent 75 (although it still goes to 0 if you get ambushed from camping), so get those Sun trinks ready.

>>182323675
Excellent. time to send all my light loving heroes in.

>>182323181
>solo will never combo well with finale since solo wants to aoe while finale just blows up 1 target

The fact that it brings you to the first line and gives you bonus speed is good enough. Problem is that it still doesn't give big enough buff to Finale to make it viable. The debuff it drops on enemies is not that bad though.

I changed Finale to have +100% damage mod and stun Jester instead of debuffing his dodge, and Solo to grant additional +100% mod to Finale. Worked pretty well in my opinion.

>go on gold run
>fanatic appears instantly
man fuck this nigger

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>bone bearer on 2 health with a 6 dmg blight on him
>his turn starts
>he immediately casts unholy rally
>blight doesnt tick
>he's still fucking there

hello?

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RIP MAA. I dunno if the loot makes up for his death.

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>>182324614

>>182320656
>Name MaA Barristan
>Never find Barristan's Head trinket
>MaA dies
>Pick up Barristan's Head trinket in the next mission after a fight with the Collector

Like pottery

What's best team comp for baron?

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anyone got some simple draw requests? i'm in love with the art style

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>>182326540
I JUST beat the motherfucker. I highly recommend Arby, Occ, Flag, Hellion. Figuring out the trick is pretty easy. If you don't find the baron,
focus down the enemy before popping another cocoon. Also be wary you cannot heal if cocoons are alive.

>>182326625
the sanitarium lady forcing dismas to apologize to the barkeep to remove his known cheat quirk

make dismas a qt3.14 pls

>>182326625
Grave Robber getting sad when you dig up a grave with Auntie to get extra stuff.

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anon here, whats wrong with the maps? should i reupload them, do they need any update?

>>182326804
Someone said that the CC maps were wrong or not fully inclusive.

>>182326625
Antiquarian sticking her hand down the Man-at-Arms' pants and saying "Oh, what kind of antique is this?"

How do you guys get enough money for the Bank?

>>182327178
Antiquarian

>>182326829
what does that mean? i see people complaining about secret rooms, well they werent on the maps i was working on and i didn't get the lucky scouts on my playthroughs either so that can't be helped

i could fix it but i hardly doubt that the curios are random
i might have messed up a few times because it was really tedious to do them in 2 days but i can fix them if they are pointed out

also one of the maps got removed from imgur for some reason

>>182327204
That makse sense. How about the portraits? They never drop but I've got a fuckton of Crests.

>>182327287
You know you can convert between them, right?

>>182327287
I forget which area drops the most portraits, but remember you always have the currency exchange thing.

>>182327365
>>182327379
Ah, I'm dumb, I didn't realize I could toggle.. I saw that I could exchange busts. But at 6 crests for 1 portrait, I'll be looking around a bit as well.

>>182323535
>loses the heal
are trinkets changed for this and the rest of the class changes?

>>182327230
I'm the anon who added the secret rooms.
Basically just missing the 2 rooms I added.
>Viscount, see bottom left
>Countess, see bottom in the middle

>i could fix it but i hardly doubt that the curios are random
What did you mean by this?

>>182293187
100 times this. On Stygian, you're only allowed 12 hero deaths; you wouldn't even be able to see all of the new corpse sprites. But a bit of visual overlay to show how tooled-up your dudes have got would be real satisfying

>>182326625
Dismas feeling great after completing a mission, only for him to get syphilis (again) from his post mission results.