/pso2g/ - Phantasy Star Online 2 General #1295

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splurt splurt

What the hell was that

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>>182279853

Remove elves

>>182280106
Some shitposter making mass threads with pokemon porn as the op image, apparently it has happened a bunch over on /vp/.

>>182280629
nintenbabbys are truly the root of all evil

>>182280629
Pokemon autism is the worst kinda autism.

>>182280106
Bui is a HUGE autist/ spammer on /vp/ who decided to flood /vg/ for some reason
He'll leave soon

Reminder that Hero is going to be shit.

>>182279853
Where are the new pics?

>>182281287
t. mad fi main who can't accept a new fun class is coming

>>182281951
Enjoy getting outparsed.

What if Hero ends up having some kind of skill that requires it to have a rainbow suite of swords, TMGs and talises

>>182282031
>Using parse
That tells me all I need to know about you

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>>182280887
oh shit Bui was here!? damn its been ages since ive interacted with that nig

How is hero supposed to keep up with other melees without all the hu tree multipliers?

>>182282779
By the game adjusting PA power. Braver doesn't really have trouble keeping with Hunter even though Hunter operates on bigger modifiers, Katana just has more PA power innately

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>outparsed by a girl again
What the fuck

>>182282779
it's literally 1/3 melee what the fuck

>>182283841
I want to lick A2's sweaty android feet

any tips for fighting solo PD as a ranger?

>>182284465
I'm sorry.

>>182284819
Hi jump ring is usefull for avoiding some things and slow dive roll can save you from that triple slash move

If parsing and balance doesn't matter, that means I don't have to grind or affix any of my gear and I can just spam Sonic arrow for every dps situation right?

Can someone remind me what I'm even unlocking hero for, this game has no content

two more weeks of this shit posting

>>182286715
Do you actually think it's going to end in ep5? People are shitposting because they know it pisses people off and this is the easiest way to do it right now. It's going to be just as bad in ep5 because only around 10% of people in this general actually care about the game and the rest just want to mock and laugh at everyone else.

>>182286864
it ended with ep4 for a while, it'll end with ep5

>>182285310
>and slow dive roll can save you from that triple slash move
You can do that without slow dive

Which T-ATK class should I level up for hero?

>>182287197
Techer is being murdered, Summoner will be ok without Maron if the nerfs are bad, Force is probably going back to early ep3 status.

>>182287197
depends on what you want to prioritize, because of the 75 stat boost

>>182287197
Techer is easier and you'll be contributing more than an undergeared Force/Summoner with buffs, zanverse & zondeel

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>>182283841
>girl

>>182286715
>>182286864
>>182286992
would you rather have shitposting about a literally who avatarfag and discord drama instead? if i was forced to choose i would rather deal with class shitposting than anything about people sperging at Lilith or whatever other avatarfags

Why don't they just keep LQs around as a permanent thing? Having something to actually do is nice.

>>182287589
i'd rather have us discuss the FUCKING GAME

>>182287719
thats never gonna happen because one of the two things i mentioned in my post ALWAYS FUCKNG HAPPENS. sometimes both of these things happen at the same time

>>182287589
>people are discussing game
>you come over here and shitpost about shitposting
Incredible.

>>182287719
>criticizing class balance isn't discussing the game

what kind of stat bonus do you get when you upgrade a ray to a union?

>>182288093
Check swiki and stop being a noob

>>182287589
I would actually. At least I could pretend the people here actually care about the game more than they do trolling people over class changes.

>>182287528
How painful would it be to level from 1 to 75, and about how long would it take? LQs are going to be gone again soon, so.

>>182285310
https://youtu.be/1tyxqdkAuDw

>>182288489
Actually Force with cheap fire setup/Summoner with popple would be best because exit bursting VHAQ is the only good way to level atm and those are what you will need for it

>>182287969
Do you even read this general? Most of the posts aren't discussing game mechanics. For every one person genuinely talking about the changes there's 4 people who just want to shitpost along the lines of saying classes should be deleted, fighter is underpowered, balance is "irrelevant" because you can just get carried, classes I don't like don't deserve to be viable, etc.
A lot of the takes on the changes are bad don't get me wrong. I would much rather have people think Gu is getting nerfed in ep5 for some reason than people gloating over bow dying or saying Fighter needed the buffs just to get a rise out of people.

When is the next AC scratch coming? The ones we have right now are complete shit.

>complaining that there's no gameplay discussion on this thread
Ignore, stop complaining and be about it faggot

>>182290230
fuck off lilith

>>182290230
You can't have a discussion by yourself. Every time I try nothing but shitposts or no responses.

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>>182290308
>>182290370
Then post cool gameplay videos

Alright pussyflaps post your solo pd videos

>>182290868
why would I post a mediocre Sword s rank

>>182290868
>posting a video where i barely scraped by since my units aren't affixed
no?

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http://pso2.jp/players/event/5th_anniversary/online/webevent/01/
http://pso2.jp/players/event/5th_anniversary/online/webevent/02/

Someone explain how the hell these work? I thought it was like the old Maximum Attack things they used to do on PSO and PSU, where everyone works towards a kill goal, then everybody gets free shit, but apparently we cleared everything on the first one, and I don't remember ever getting shit.

>>182292221
Actually click the panels and look at the dates you musty snot rag

>>182292269
fuck off lillith

>>182292269
Wow, rude!

Still, thanks, I guess.

>The episode quests go all the way into august
>Hero comes out right as the episode 2 LQ comes back
easy 80 boys

>>182293501
i'm a girl

>>182293608
not unless I say you are

>>182293608
Ok but can you outparse all the tryhards on your teaMPA and blow the flute with your vagina?

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>>182293608
We're all girls here, anon! No stinky boys allowed!

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My wife Xiera is super cute!

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>>182296982
literally in episode 5

>>182297157
I'm okay with that
Yui a cute

What are the ways to get SG outside of casino/pvp?

>>182299752
pay us 4 dollars USD per sg scratch!
-sega

>>182299752
Buy cheap costumes and have them equipped on alts for 24 hours (online or offline) for 10sg, per character
Titles, if you haven't done all of them yet (ie. beat Phaleg as every class, S-rank solo PD, etc) give a good amount
Complete bingo on all characters
Log in to es for 1sg/day

When are level up quests coming back?

>>182300125
You have the best level up quest by far with the episode 2 lq

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i have my doubts about the usefulness of chain trigger on gunner and feel like those points could've been used elsewhere, since it's always like this
>get a few seconds of stunned boss(if a boss is stunable at all, most of them are fast fuckers)
>during those few seconds you have to position yourself, activate CT and hope that you use a PA before the boss gets up or it was just wasted damage where you could've just spammed PA instead of building the chain
and don't get me started on a weak bullet combo with CT where you also need a few seconds for that setup with switching weapons, positioning etc.
how are you even supposed to use CT on a boss like dual banshees?
the 3 seconds that the banshee is stunned isn't nearly enough or worth it, just spam PAs and you'll get more out of it.
what am i doing wrong, i feel like those points would've better been used in that skill that increases PP recovery with normal attacks since i can spam PAs more efficiently?
yeah, bal rodos gets raped with CT and WB but all those slow bosses really aren't a problem even without it...

>>182300719
You're half right from my experience. I only ever really use CT during a LONG down phase like Deus' DPS check, Double's knockdown, or something like that. Any other time I find satellite aim spam to be infinitely more effective.
Maybe I'm a shitter I don't know but I'm pretty strong so it's fine for the most part.

>>182297157
Will she call me daddy when I rail her?

>>182300719
Dumb frogposter, just go to 20 - 30 and don't bother trying ridiculous chains on most bosses.

How can you guys be so bad at this game when you talk about it the whole day for years?

>>182301591
i find satellite aim to be ridiculously good against anything even without CT, just get close to the weak point and start spamming, close range from gunner and weak hit advance from ranger and boom everything's dead or taking ridiculous damage.

>>182301782
but the time that took me to activate CT, position myself and get the chain would've been more useful if i just spammed PAs.
a 20 or 30 chain is like 2x or 2.5x damage, and that really isn't that much better than just using PAs, that goes if everything goes perfectly and you don't get fucked while building the chain.

>>182302990
>Using Gu/Ra
Switch to Gu/Hu and have some real fun

>>182302786
I just started a week ago though

>>182303641
guhu doesn't have nice damage multipliers as gura has. yes, gura is about weak points and guhu is about constant damage but like i said, get close and spam satellite aim and get ridicules damage numbers.
why do you think guhu is more fun?
this is my first time playing as a ranged damage character so i really am still experimenting.

>>182304043
Gu/Hu can hit 100% crit which I don't believe Gu/Ra can do and on top of that like you said it's far more consistent. Fury stance, automate, etc. are beautiful things to have.

>>182302786
it's in moonrunes and i now about like 30% of the mechanics in the game, especially after a 2 year break and now i see some type-0 skills and i'm getting summoner eggs that are 7 and 8 stars and don't know what to do with them really except throwing them away, i also don't know how rare those are since i have a lot of them.

>>182304179
do you know how crits work in this game?
they aren't like a damage bonus but they just make you do the maximum damage your weapon is currently able to, and the differences range from 95% to 100%, so i consider that wasted skill points.

>>182304571
Have you even looked at gunner's skill tree or do you just not know gunners have a passive 8% damage boost total from TMG mastery and the crit ring you need to hit 100%? You should look into stuff before being an ass to people trying to help you.

>>182304757
it's 5% and that still doesn't add up to the damage a gura can do.
what do you think about high time and how does it work exactly, and what do you think about s roll up and that skill tree?
also, i wasn't trying to be mean anon i appreciate the help...

>>182305234
>5%
the ring you need is 3% totaling to 8% crit damage

Let's make it simple. There's a reason anybody who plays gunner now runs Gu/Hu.
High time is something that needs to be maxed out as it's a big part of your damage during showtime.

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uuurgh

>>182304571
It's you who doesn't understand crits
Normal hits vary between 70 and 90% of damage, not 95 to 100%

>>182305234
Anon I'm not trying to be mean but you really do suck at GU. Listen to what>>182304757 say. S-roll is complete trash after the nerf by the way.

>>182305447
To add to this you also need the stance up ring for GuHu. That gives pretty good multipliers.

>>182305507
You can do it anon.

It's material storage going to be rental only?

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Reminder that sluts should be deletd. Elves too.

Lolis can stay.

>>182306570
pay up :^)

>>182305624
i just started gunner and am like level 26, so yeah i know i suck at it.

>>182305514
>70 and 90%
normal attacks aren't your main damage dealers, also source on that 70-90% since i only read stuff from 90something to 100%.

>>182305447
>There's a reason anybody who plays gunner now runs Gu/Hu.
that''s because it's more constant damage while gura being high risk high reward since hitting weak spots isn't the easiest thing to do, and for normal enemies i'don't really need the biggest damage numbers to get along.

>>182306650
That one on the left is super lewd.

>>182306650
What is the point of screenshots at the end of boss fights anyway?

>>182306674
Anon you can do whatever you want but Gu/Hu really is the best way to go. Leave the ranger shit to the rangers it's not for gunner.

>>182306674
You just (re)started and you're already trying to argue builds?
Maybe you misunderstood as well when I said normal hits; I meant "non-critical hits"
And what are you gonna do when an enemy doesn't have a weakspot?

>>182306876
To give me an excuse to post my character.

I fucked up

1 fuse per run

REEEEEEEEEEEE

>>182307820
>Have spent over 80 fuses so far
What's it like to be fuseless

>>182307820
weren't you whining how you don't even use your fuses at all?

>>182307062
>enemy doesn't have a weakspot?
what major enemy doesn't have one?

>>182306905
b-but what about weak bullet on weak spot and start hitting like a truck?
i want to take all things in consideration because i really like being a gunner and just want the maximum potential out of it.

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>hero has no PA's and instead has set a set amount of PA's per weapon
I can already tell this class is going to become boring as fucking shit after level 40. I also feel that talises are going to be garbage and completely outclassed by sword and machinguns, making it so you have even less variety when fighting.

>>182307926
>b-but what about weak bullet on weak spot and start hitting like a truck?
Consistently high damage trumps out short bursts that Gu/Ra can do

>>182308026
>hero has no PA's and instead has set a set amount of PA's per weapon
>Hero has no PAs but it does
Why are you acting like this is any different from any of the other classes in the game

>>182304043
shhh just let him use gu/ra and struggle at every XH mode content :^) even a rappy knows gu/hu is far better than gu/ra..leave the WB job to Rangers

>>182308091
ok good point.
and what about the fact that hitting non weak points is just a fracture of the damage on bosses?
i feel like if i'm not hitting some weak spot i'm not doing any real damage at all, and the ranger skill amplifies it like crazy.
i take it that you are a guhu so how badly can you fuck up a boss without being concerned if you'll hit a weak spot or not?

>>182308674
I CAN'T UNDERSTAND THE MATH IN GUHU AND WHY SOMEONE WOULD CHOOSE IT OVER GURA REEE

>>182308857
Anon just switch to Gu/Hu like literally everybody is telling you to do

>>182304043
>get close and spam satellite aim and
then you die because gura doesnt have the tank capabilities of a hu sub

>>182308026
Don't worry, you won't be using it anyway because it's weak as fuck.

>>182307926
In Zephyros, neither Hunar forms have one, the centaur mobs have hardly accessible ones and his core isn't a weakspot for the entirety of phase 3
None of mum's arms have weakspots either

>>182309070
that's why gu has i frames out the ass.

>>182309024
FUCK YOU GUHU IT IS
i'm off to leveling a hunter now

>>182309326
you cant do good damage while those iframes are in effect

those iframes move you too which forces you to waste time trying to position yourself to hit that weakspot

the time wasted trying to reposition yourself means you just lost 3-4 sat aim spam and guess what. RA's multipliers isnt enough to cover those.

You literally lost dps because of your iframes

>>182309570
fair enough>>182309506

>in sees group mpa
>literally shit dps

top kek pso2g is so bad

>>182309947
ok sofa

>>182310040
t. cuck

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>>182308197
because those classes have more then 3 PA's. Not a Deadly Circle Type-0 memer like you and enjoy using diffirent PA's.

>>182310328
Hero has roughly 15 PAs total the fuck are you talking about

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>20k hours
>played every class fully
>only excited for shunka speed buff and hopefully damage unnerf
I will show everyone darkness.

>>182310932
Ok, darkgeeston. Gib kasami.

>>182310932
If they make shunka into the highest DPS PA for katana again I'm going to be an automate shitter.

>>182312229
Bring automate only to ult amd-like quests if you're going to be launching yourself into dangerous packs of mobs otherwise go full SATK mode

>only 20k files left

Arrrgh

>>182313132
>5mbps
Mate...

>>182313287
>>182313287
Straya

Pls kill me, I just wanna be a giant robot

>>182313132
chill cunt it took me 2 days

>deus unga is next
fuck this gorilla boss

>>182314639
how did you get "gorilla" from something that has multiple dragon heads

>>182306876
>he never played Sakura Taisen

>>182314971
He bashes his hands and body on the platform

Does GU/HU use fury critical?

pi pi

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>>182315782
>>182315809
Thanks Captain Obvious.

>>182315185
yes

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we have to go back

>>182319893
It isn't worth it unless we can go back to the AotI days when the series was at its peak.

>>182244085
Mothership isn't actually unpopular, is it? Thing is shitload of EXP

If anything they'd put that one up for SG

>>182319991
>AotI days when the series was at its peak
That was one of the series' lowest points

>>182320137
thems fighting words

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>ultra-hyped about new fantasy planet
>it has tokyo/vegas spawn system

>>182320257
There's nothing to fight about. AOTI was an improvement over the base but PSU 1.0 was so hugely disappointing it wasn't exactly able to win back anyone either

It wasn't until they adapted the engine for PSP that they actually pulled themselves out of that slump

>>182320596
It's not a "planet"
It doesn't appear to have a free field exploration or ARKS quests
Enemies just seem to spawn wherever the action demands it in Buster Quests so I guess where you need to be is dictated by that

>>182320762
we bout to tussle

>>182320596
you mean the better spawn system

>>182320257
>>182321105
>there were people that unironically enjoyed psu

I don't understand how. What did you like about it?

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>Saw this in the voting for weapons
Why are we not discussing this?

>>182321876
I honestly feel like everything about PSO2 is a step down from PSU.
>Rare drops mean shit on PSO2 while when you saw that red on PSU you actually got excited
>Actually having different planets to visit and multiple lobbies between missions on each planet
>Gameplay wasn't a massive fuckfest
>Classes were tailored more and you could do pretty much anything you wanted within the game without worry
>Had far more of a sense of community
>Could do meaningful content outside of 30 minute periods specified by the devs
>Dual sabers weren't some gimmicky ass weapon with photon blades
>Fucking axes, whips, and single daggers
>The market wasn't the trash heap PSO2's is
There's so much more but this post was getting big enough.

>>182322369
Well it ended up not being very big at all. It seemed bigger on my phone anyways.

>>182322105
because the odds of it actually winning are pretty low

>TECHER IS GETTING NERFED IT'S RUINED NOW
>minor decrease to Zanverse potential damage which isn't even a Techer nerf, necessarily, it's a nerf to
>Wand Lovers
>Adjusted the effect values per level
>Reduced the level cap to five.
>Wand Reactor
>Changed the level cap to 1.
>Adjusted the effect values in response.
>Wand Gear Element
>Changed the level cap to 1.
>Adjusted the effect values in response.
13 more skill points available while Wand remains viable. Fuck you, you gay babies, stop crying about inconsequential bullshit. Content is so laughably easy now, I welcome the nerfs.

>>182322369
It's funny how I used to see people say shit exactly like this about how PSU was a step down from everything about PSO

Spoilers: it was mostly bullshit

>>182323149
Zanverse nerf is overblown
But I don't know if the extra skill points will actually change much of anything about the class really
Where are they going to go? Some other element mastery? Resta Advance?

>>182322369
>Gameplay wasn't a massive fuckfest
It was a massive fuckfest
PP bars were on weapons and they didn't regen at any appreciable rate
The entire game was facetank every attack and spam your most powerful PA until the thing was empty, then switch to the next copy of it and repeat until it was dead

There's an entire dimension of combat in PSO2 centered around dodging and countering that's completely absent in PSU

In comparison to that, PSU's combat is pretty literally "every class is subbing Automate HU"

I fuck, imagine if there was only one small platform in Deus Esca and every single one of its attacks hit everyone every time with no chance of avoiding it, and all you had to do was just hit any body part that happened to be in front of you until it died

That is what PSU is.

I loved that game and I spent five years on it but seriously fuck you.

>>182323784
Do you prefer complete RNG for drops or a combination of RNG plus guaranteed grinding like we have now?

>>182322918
That sucks immensely.

>>182323950
That's a pretty easy answer, isn't it? The latter.

Of course it's still not a perfect system, but saying "everything is a step back" is just fucking wrong

That reminds me, actually, in PSU drops on the ground were shared between everyone in the party, and you had to deal with that atrocious random rare distribution system too.

>>182322105
The game regularly goes off-the-rails with weapon designs, but that one has the opposite problem? It's honestly pretty boring.

>>182310932
Same except I'm not even looking forward to any changes. I'm just looking forward to the price of t-atk affixes to either plateau or go down while they keep trying to get people to play melee. Then again, astral soul is getting more and more expensive to do so I'm fucked the moment I upgrade off Union.

>>182322105
>voting
no voting is involved
sega nominates designs so that sega can "vote" on their favorites

>>182323149
You're forgetting that every source of Techer damage got nerfed. Compounds, banish, Maron, etc. Where the hell are those extra skill points going to go? There's nothing that will actually benefit a Techer main. The bigger problem is: was Techer really that fucking strong it needed to be nerfed worse than most of the other classes? I wasn't aware Techer was destroying EQs and had to be stopped. Having more than one techer in the mpa just got so much worse. By your logic it would be ok if we nerfed Bouncer.

>>182312229
The good ol' times of EP2, miss those times.

Why doesn't fighter need a rainbow set while other classes supposedly "need" them?

I play Fi with 3 active twin daggers, 3 double saber, 2 knuckles including orbutt, shifta boots, a partisan and two sets of units
AMA

>>182325592
How about you stop baiting

>>182324243
I mean you would think that it's an easy answer but it's not like people here haven't argued that CFs are trash and RNG is objectively better. I fucking hated having to completely rely on rng for something to drop even if it means I can farm it whenever I want instead of this EQ system bullshit.

>>182326896
Ares was the worst. We went from having 5-6 different viable things you could do, most of which during your own time, to only one thing in the game being worth running as ares eclipsed everything. It doesn't help they screwed up Ult Nab and didn't think to stop anga farming parties from existing which sucked all the fun out of the game.

>minimized the PSO2Launcher and can't bring it back up but can see the process running

I DON'T WANNA RISK THE DOWNLOAD

>>182328320
minimise all other background tabs, and it'll be visible.

>>182328320
>not using botnet tweaker that can save dl progress

>>182328515
>this is the kind of person that uses the botnet enabler
The download doesn't reset simply because you close the launcher, it picks up where it left off.

>>182329219
You were right, I took a chance and it worked.

>8.8k files to go

>>182329374
Of course I'm right, would I lie to you anon?

>>182329417
What do you have to gain?

Those 2D cut scenes in EP5 with 3D character models are a little weird. I can't say I hate them or anything but they're strange considering how different they are from the game's presentation before this.

The omnibus quests for EP1~3 are interesting in that Alma might provide some additional insight into some of the things that happened then but can't really ignore that it seems to be mostly recycling.

>>182330026
>mostly recycling
I'm pretty sure it's just for new players who weren't around back then. Going back to do the old story is fucking miserable, you have to clear all of ep1 to move to ep2 and then do the same for ep3 using the god awful matterboard system.

>>182330267
New players can already just go into their rooms and use the event chronicle if they want to know what happened

>NaCI


You fucks will never be relevant, just because you feel high and mighty because you left the official /vg/ team and created your own circle jerk doesn't make you any better at this game than the rest of us. I honestly don't know why you miserable pieces of shit are allowed in redrum. I'm going to talk to Kirsch and see if we can settle of banishing you shitheads from OUR hideout because I'm sick of tired of the 'hurr EDF can't triple dip' bullshit you constantly spout.

>>182330026
>Alma
Is that the new fox lady?

>>182330026
>The new cutscenes
They reek of lazy. I hope Ep5 is the shit show that kills PSO2.

>>182330831
>They reek of lazy
It's not like they couldn't just do it like they always have with the same canned animations

I mean it's basically just as lazy, just a different kind of lazy. It looks like they'll still be using regular style cut scenes for the important things.

>>182330831
>Is that the new fox lady
Yeah. Arma or Alma or whatever. She was the first generation Klariskrays, Regius first mentioned her by name all the way back in Episode 2.

>>182331059
What the fuck? Why is she a fox lady?

>>182331081
She's not literally a fox lady, that's just the way her weird hair makes her look.

>>182331176
I thought she was dead by the way Robo guy talked about her.

FUCKING TEAMSPEAK

>>182331208
She's supposed to be, yeah. But now she's back for some mysterious reason.

>>182331318
Ep5 really is going to be a total shitshow.

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>>182331382

>>182331521
Maybe we were better off just doing sidestory stuff on other planets like earth.

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>>182330753

what is the latest redrum drama?

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24 hours is faster than anticipated

>>182332124
who gets custody of the corpses

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>In EP5 Xiao steals Xiera's seat and makes her stand behind him
all will know my pain

So while I'm still downloading this and spamming the thread with that fact, what class do you guys play mostly and what do you/don't you like about it?

I was thinking of going Gunner

>>182333083
I really like TE because it just makes all the "have to do" stuff so much easier
>spamming kuron for ta co
>use zondeel then whack it once
>everything is dead
>doing xq co
>use zondeel then whack it once
>everything is dead
>doing dailies for a shot at keys
>use zondeel then whack it once
>everything is dead

It kinda sucks that zanverse is getting gutted in the future but I guess playing Hero would soften up that blow

>>182333246
>Play Te because you can do several year old content with tiny health pools easy (but still slower than good classes)

>>182333721
>slower
I dont know about you but pulling everything towards me feels faster than walking up to every single one of them

>>182333083
This general has a lot of shitposting and class balance has been a hot topic lately since half the classes are getting nerfed and people are either going crazy about it or mocking others over it. Take everything with a grain of salt. Every class is playable but the classes aren't exactly balanced. Just play whatever you want for now and only care about what's good/what other people play when you're experienced with the game already.

>>182333959
Why walk when you can guren?

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>>182333083
I like Gunner too, but mostly play Fighter and Summoner. Been Gunner since EP1 since it's easy and strong, but it got gutted too much in the past. I give up on it, and only using it as a sub for Summoner (rip Su/Gu)

>>182334625
Guren wont clear the entire area around you

>>182334660
Is it fun for solos though? I probably won't be social much for the first experiences through the game

>>182334713
In terms of fun the only class of rank above gunner would be fighter, in solo and group play. Only few reasons I rank fighter above it is because while gunner does sort of play like a melee, the weapons are still guns and also the fact that messing up a chain makes me feel like shit.

>>182334883
I'll absolutely fuck up combos, but that's because I'm shit and australian.

I play a fighter or swordsman and shit in almost every other game, so I figure I"m up for a change of pace

>>182334368
It's just a prank bro

>>182334941
Latency has nothing to do with it if that's what you're worried about, Gunner is just hard to play well and sega still wont fix bugs with their main mechanics. If you like good solo classes than Fighter is god and will continue to be god in ep5 in both solo and party content.

>>182334941
To be fair though I am decently shit at the game so you'd probably do better if you tried. Also, sword is pretty fun for raid bosses once you get the hang of parrying. It just feels so satisfying.

>>182334713
Gunner is fun in solo mode. As for Fighter not much. Less fun chasing target coz Fighter's attack range is shorter than Hunter weapons.

Ranger and Force are the most challenging at start. Ranger has Weak Bullet that complements with Gunner (as sub), while Force has Compound Tech

Still recommend Gunner coz ez mode

post underboob

>>182333083
i mostly play techer because i like support classes and enabling the fight cloud is fun to me

i play a little bit of everything other than fi and su, i used to play gu a lot but i got frustrated with basic game mechanics just not working so i'm waiting to see if hero's just reload is going to be affected by orbit latent. if orbit boosts it then i'm just going to be a tmg hero shitter that dumps entire pp bars into things

>>182335558
Uh, what? Fighter's attack range is just fine, force is one of the easiest classes to actually play (less easy to set up with all the crafted techs you need), and gunner is very very far from easy mode.

>>182335821
>very very far from easymode

Excuse me while I handle my erection

>>182335558
>Gunner is fun in solo mode. As for Fighter not much
>Literally the best solo class in the game
If you don't like playing Fighter fine but don't give him the idea that Fighter isn't actually good.

>>182335558
ITT: shitters who give advice

>>182335821
Gunner is easy class to play. Just shoot things and it's dead. Bossing w/ Gu/Ra is ez as long as you can instakil it with chain+wb. Gu/Hu for mobbing and tougher quest (Hu w/ Automate Skill).

playing gu/ra for 3 years btw. only bad at mid-range focused ppl will say it's hard

>>182333083
Gunner (with a Hunter sub) is solid and will continue to be solid in ep5, so it's not a bad choice and if you think it's cool then go for it.

>>182336521
Have you been playing for 3 years in H mode or something?

>>182336729
>not one-shotting bosses at Extra Hard Mode
Gu/Hu won't know how satisfying it is

>>182336521
Wow you have no idea what you're talking about

>>182336891
ok gu shitter. maybe watch gu/ra solo vids next time. being closed minded won't make you better at certain things.

>>182336521
I thought you were shitposting at first but you're the real deal huh

>>182337381
Rockbear solo means nothing for most people though.

>>182336521
can you tell me what the weak bullet multiplier is?

>>182324396
Funny, I have the opposite problem. Everything feels too overdesigned and it looks awfully stupid and unconventional to use for any kind of fighting. For example Kohris Sword looks more prone to stabbing the user than whatever you're trying to cut.

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Why doesn't Yamato just break out of the ice by hitting it with its giant laser guns?

>fighter shitposting
>guhu vs gura
>"lol you dont have a 14* yet?"
>hero requires all atk units !!
The same shit literally every day

AHM

I have a problem, ausfag who started the class argument here.

Trying to sign up, and I don't have the option for a hiragana keyboard to type the captcha

>>182338308
Use google for one.

>>182338183
You forgot the people complaining about being nerfed. We had a solid 20-30 posts last thread complaining about bow and techer alone

>Day1 newfag starting shit, completely disregarding the OP and it's information and repeatedly identifying himself on an anonymous imageboard
If only better places had non-cancerous game discussion sometimes

>>182338073
Reading comprehension

Just because the game has overdesigned shit (it does) does not excuse boring ass shit like that

>>182338520
I'll concede the repeatedly identifying part,

I didn't completely disregard the OP, I was asking for personal opinion

And blogposting, admittedly

>>182338520
It's sad how this garbage general is still better than psow and reddit.

>>182338183
>points out shitty topic instead of giving out fresh topic to discuss with

I guess I'll start:

If nerfs/balances didn't happen, would you stay or change your current main class? also, viable playstyle for Hero class, with regards to lack of Automate/MH/NGU/KC skills

What evolutionary advantage do feminine male elves have?

>>182339064
>if shunka didnt get nerfed
>if sroll JA didnt get nerfed
>if ilmegid didnt get nerfed

Unnerfed sroll is broken. I'd probably play GU

>>182339064
i've been playing the same class since the open beta

>>182339064
>If nerfs/balances didn't happen, would you stay or change your current main class?
I would stay, now I'm not so sure.
>viable playstyle for Hero class, with regards to lack of Automate/MH/NGU/KC skills
You do what fighter used to have to do and not get hit, they have plenty of tools to avoid damage.

>>182339064
If you're talking about only the ep5 changes then I probably stick to maining katana br and fi. Would definitely pick up hero though. I honestly don't care much for balance as long as most things can clear shit reasonably. It's not like the game locks you into a class anyways and you have 3 fucking free character slots to work with.

>>182339497
>plays Fi
>doesn't care about balance
gee i wonder why

>>182339346
sroll JA sure is broken. I would love to spam sroll -> Infinite Fire Type-0 on everything and soloing every XH quests.

Shunka and Ilmegid is just plain repetitive. Atleast those 2 deserves nerf/balance than sroll skill

>>182339558
I've been playing fi and br since EP2. Fi was pretty bad back then weren't they?

Alright, is there a recommended ship to join?

>>182340058
4

>>182340058
6

>>182340058
Read the fucking OP
I mean come on I know Abbott cancelled Gonski but surely elementary school wasn't affected right?

>>182340149
I might be blind as fuck dude, I actually cannot see it

Spoonfeed me like the retard I am and also tell me where I'm supposed to look so I can find it next time

>>182340058
ship 1

>>182340245
>http://bumped.org/psublog
>http://bumped.org/psublog/pso2-guide-list/
please do us all a favor and live in here + google translate + pso2.swiki.jp for the next few weeks

>>182340058
4 if you want to play with a faggot Newman male, 2 for memes. You really can't go wrong.

>>182339474
>>viable playstyle for Hero class, with regards to lack of Automate/MH/NGU/KC skills
>You do what fighter used to have to do and not get hit, they have plenty of tools to avoid damage.

The problem I have with this is that unless it's a 1v1 fight, if there are other players or enemies around, I can't fucking see shit. My screen just ends up being a clusterfuck of blinding explosions and effects. I can't dodge what I can't see.

Not sure if playing on toaster settings would help with this or not.

Are the limited quests going away after the maintenance today?

Alright, here's one not covered in a guide, you salty fuck

Anyone wanna give me their ID for a friend invite?

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>>182322105
Probably not going to happen because of what >>182324396 (who in my opinion has a shit opinion though personally I'd scrap that design in your picture for the classic sabers.) and >>182324575 who point out Sega seems to prefer using mostly ridiculous anime-tier weapons. I think about their target audience during the catastrophe that was episode 4 and I'm not particularly hopeful at all for anything new.

This is regrettable because these were (and still are) my favorites of PSOs weapon designs and you wind up barely using them before they're replaced by the mostly gaudy looking 7*s or better. Early game passed by so fast, and it seems Phantasy Star Online the 2nd suffers the same problem.

>>182322105
>>182324396
Honestly boring isn't bad. It's not more boring than *龍鳴剣ヴァンデルホーン for example. It has the advantage of nice sheathing not triggering clipping and perfect synergy with Sac Bite 0 that honestly does look kinda strange when you swing around a huge piece of metal but you hit people with the extending light saber anyway.

>>182340563
been thinking of that too. A class w/o Automate would look like Fighter/Gunner w/o sub. Sword Counter/TMG Just Reload/Talis Warp would be the main dodge/counter/parry for Hero class.
that or use all-class TD to evade/block attacks from all direction

Hahaha I can put hats on my cast

Holy shit this is excellent

>>182340090
>>182340127
>>182340328
Fuck off all of you losers holy shit
>>182340058
The english ship is ship 2. There's a small pocket on ship 4 but they're more closed communities.

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Holy fuck this looks stupid, I can't stop giggling every time I see myself in a cutscene

>>182341520
I can't remember which ship I joined

>>182340863
That actually seems like some effort was put into it instead of just being a wholesale lawsuit-worthy rip-off of a Star Wars lightsaber

>>182340705
I don't dislike those, but they're pretty obviously not going to be high level gear.

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Quna-chan is my wife

I'm trying to finish the ep1-3 matterboard but it feels tedious. How many star gems does this give and is it worth doing?

Hero would've been better off as a Gunslash class with all the skills same as the current one.

>>182344062
I'm trying to do it for the titles because I'm farming everything possible to get Whitel units.

>>182343921
I want to drink her sweat.

>>182344265
You are a fucking loser.

>>182343921
Casra please.

>>182344062
It doesn't give star gems, no it isn't worth doing if you don't actually want to see the story.

>>182295420
>stinky
Fucking die

Newfag from earlier here

I just decided to try the level 20 training thing solo

That is something else. I got to the dragon brothers and timed out before I could kill them, that was ABSOLUTELY INSANE FUN HOLY SHIT

>>182347778
t. stinker

>>182333083
I play Bouncer. I hate my shitty DPS in it.

>>182348136
good work, keep it up

>>182338153
It's photon ice

>>182348343
I'm only a 13 ranger with some awful skill levels, but holy shit it was fun trying to find the weak points of the boss monsters. I accidentally switched myself to what I think is thirdperson free aim mode and it made everything more intense, holy shit

>>182340570
Yes
>>182340570
No
>>182340648
Maybe

>>182348208
Fucking die

>>182348647
Y-you too.

>>182348136
>>182348440
You should quit PSO2 while it's still fun. If you keep playing it will devolve into a boring grind where you slave away to get the next OP weapon of the season and min-max your rare drop boosters for a chance of rare drops in emergency quests.

>>182348714
Anyone have the Tokyo battle and train lyrics? Allisterations' version is totally and completely wrong

>>182348773
>min-max your rare drop boosters
Fucking die

>>182348773
I played PSO:BB for something like 4 years, I know what the grind can devolve into

I'm gonna get my MAG tomorrow and see what I can do with it nowadays

bloo yunyun

>>182348773
PSO2 is way too casual to be called a boring grind.

>>182350368
I don't see how those things are supposed to be mutually exclusive

>>182350650
Grind usually implies work

>>182348832
there appear to be verses missing from the ost version

>>182350935
It's a grind when you have a taste for expensive affixes.

Wish they'd replace the Phantasy Star Zero DS synthesizer Rappy Fever song with the chance game part of the Rappy Slots track

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>Here, the ARKS are regarded as fabled saviors from another world.

WELL WELL WELL

WHAT DO WE HAVE HERE? A MALE HOLDING A ROD SYMBOLIZED WITH THE SIX-POINTED EQUILIBRIUM

FORCES = SAVIO(U)RS

>>182352671
NOT KNIFE EARS = NOT NEWMAN

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>>182352671
>rod

>>182352671
It's a wand, retard

>>182353050
this planet is full of nothing but Newmans and they're illustrated without showing ears in that carved mural

IT"S A NEWMAN

>>182353495
If you look closer he has ball joints.

CAST MALE

Good L rings to inject into units for FO and RA?
i know stuff like tech parry/weak hit launcher are staple for them but not sure i want to just bind it into a unit

>>182353572
>robots in my elven fantasy world

Leave.

>>182354534
Watch your elven gals discover the joys of super strong hair gel.

SOLUS BTFO

>>182353647
For my RA and GU units, I put Point Weak Bullet, Front S Roll, and Air Reversal, while using the L-ring slot for Launcher Non Weak and TMG Stance Up.

>>182352671
I hope force is the worst class in ep5

>>182352671
>six pointed star looks like the star of david
I wonder who could be behind this carving

>>182356630
Newmans?

>>182354534
Robots, or MAGICAL STEEL GOLEMS

>>182351376
allisterations version is based on a poorly done game rip made by mashing the game files together in no particular order. So all the lines are out of order. So they're totally wrong.

>>182356776
i don't want this to turn into a Disney movie where some dude from modern age America was sent back to King Arthur's time period with a machinegun

SO LEAVE YOU FILTHY TOASTER

>>182356994
That may very well be the case

But regardless there still appears to be missing verses from the OST

like I know there's a realization for "truth" bit, but it's nowhere to be found on either of the tracks

>>182357257
Then kick out Force with techno magic and Ranger. Melee only

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>>182352671

>>182357436
then you can't use photons either, since that's the techno magic you speak of

i'll be like the wise monk, you'll be the shouting club-wielding cavemen

>>182357656
There is no TECHno in photon arts idiot. Enjoy clashing with the setting as you cast your shitty explosion magic and 2 minute cooldown laser.

>>182357910
HOW AM I CLASHING WITH THE SETTING BY CASTING THE HIGHEST TIER OF DARKER-SMITING MAGIC IN THE MULTIVERSE? YOU HAVE A LITERAL FUCKING FAIRY AS A SIDEKICK

>>182358078
>ZELSIUS WEARING FUCKBOY IN THE ERA OF KNIGHTS AND WISE OLD MAGICIANS OBSERVING BATTLES FROM THE TOWERS USING A SCI FICTION ROD TO CAST TECHNIQUES HE IS TOO HIP TO EVEN CALL MAGIC
>NOT CLASHING WITH THE SETTING COMPARED TO A GUY WITH A SWORD WHICH IS A VERY GOOD CHARACTER CLICHE AND FITS HAVING A MORE MAGICAL UTILITY SIDE KICK (FAIRY)

>>182358383
IM NOT WEARING [ZAMLORD] IN THAT WORLD

>>182358506
Even if I pay you to?

>>182358560
I'm pretty sure he's the one who should be paying.

>>182358506
That's right, they're wearing [RAID SFIDA] in that world.

>>182358823
>RAID SFIDA
NO, THE PRIEST OUTFIT

>>182358693
yeah, it's only right that I have to pay to see you zoo animals

>No Atelier scratch date
AHH- this joke is getting old but seriously what the fuck sega

>>182360439
The Atelier scratch was weeks ago, you totally missed out on it

>>182360756
My hand wont miss your cheek if you don't quit lying

>>182344818
Kasura is too sneaky and shifty to be making declarations like that even if he did actually feel that way

>>182348985
The best thing for mags in pso2 is just to dump into whatever attack stat your class uses. Defense is pointless because everything at endgame kills you in 2-3 hit regadless and dex is useless. Dont put points into any other stat by mistake because it cost 50 excubes to reduce 1 level.

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>>182344265
I'd chug her bath water

>>182362423
I wouldn't say defense as a whole was worthless, but there is definitely not worth putting any defense points into your Mag when your skills/gear have it taken care of on their own pretty easily

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There are anons that dont know if this is a boss or not,are you one of them?

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>>182348773
>min-max your rare drop boosters for a chance of rare drops in emergency quests.
>only worth it for cfile %
>mfw 250 is all you need for a 14star

>>182365014
It drops a red crystal but I would hardly call something that dies faster than rockbear a "boss"

>>182365014
I think it's one of the coolest ideas for a boss in the game, even though it's underwhelming in action.

>>182366115
Rockbear has like 100k less HP and a weak point that's exposed 100% of the time, it wouldn't die faster than a type 15 tank under most circumstances

>>182356250
That's literally impossible as long as bouncer exists.

>>182370057
Bouncer isn't going to be the worst, that's what they're introducing hero for.

>>182370512
t. bouncer

>>182370057
Bouncer doesnt have JPs jokingly throwing "x" infront of its abbreviation like FO and TE atm

>>182372352
*after

>>182372352
Because BO is beyond dead it's not even worth joking about anymore

>>182375781
Bouncer is like 3rd class in popularity and does fairly okay damage on everything. Look at fucking solo PD times and you will see that it isn't that far from other classes.

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How do I solo with launchers?
Sphere destroyer takes too long to set up and the enemys always knock me out of it. Everything else seems to do jack shit for damage despite flame shot which bolts me to the ground.

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I'm sorry to bother you with my woes.

>>182377021
pop massive before using sphere eraser, or just be at a safe distance, positioning is key

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>>182377639
Let's happy rappy

>>182378179
>this is the absolute peak of japanese intellectual pursuits

Witht the compound, subclass chain trigger and marron nerf they should've nerf limit break down to 10% and make it not trigger crazy skills.
https://twitter.com/pso2_madcat/status/884714590570926080

Are the ep1 - 4 Limited Quests going away with the maintenance?

Should I even continue playing if I don't want to play fighter?

>>182380504
no

>>182380469
Yes.

>>182380469
Yes. The episode quests are now going to start rotating daily instead of weekly.
>>182380504
find a new meme

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>>182380469
No.

>>182379918
That would make LB pretty much useless. You would get better mileage with normal satk ups and putting points into chase unless you're doing bossing only build. 10% damage without crazy skills is nothing if it drops you down to 25% hp as normal.

What's going to be the best summoner subclass post ep 5?

>>182382021
the same it's always been