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Felmyst (Or Gummy) is a TBC server coming out soon.

>Register and download client
https://www.felmyst.com/

>Talents
http://armory.twinstar.cz/talent-calc

>What is the appropriate faction to choose?
http://www.strawpoll.me/13376439

>If we do end up rerolling, what class are you going to play?
http://www.strawpoll.me/13376455

>What time is it going to come out???
Soon, they're going to release it quietly so that the server isn't flooded with players so that people can get a clean head start.

>I'm sick of leveling!
Don't stop until you drop.
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where will the server be located? north america, europe?
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Guild name poll results:

Top3
1. <BRRRRAAAAAAAAAAPPP> 23 votes
2. <Madti Fanclub> 13 votes
3. <runescape> 12 votes
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>>181933934
Create another poll, those suck ass.
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>>181933990
the Felmyst community has chosen
sorry
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http://www.strawpoll.me/13376509

http://www.strawpoll.me/13376509

http://www.strawpoll.me/13376509


VOTE NOW
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>>181934195
I kind of like pupper pals
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>>181765258


there is already a tbc thread
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>>181934561
Oh. Shit I checked and I didn't see one. Thank you.
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Okay bump>>181933765
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Reminder your best bet for a successful /vg/ guild is to join the /wpsg/ guild.
No trannies/attention whores
People who know tbc
Performance based raid slots

More info and official guild discord to come when a release date is announced.
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>>181933765
>What Should We All Roll On Gummy?
>all

kys
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>>181933862
read the FAQ you faggot
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>>181933934
We should steal <GRIZZLY>
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>>181937090
You just said it was a reddit guild. I would rather spend my entire time playing WoW having to listen to trannies circlejerk over each other than spend a second playing with a reddit guild. Let's make a new guild without either of those.
>>181934195
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>>181937242
>just said it was a reddit guild
What?
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>>181937242
>wpsg a reddit guild
???

If you don't want to play with MoH by far your best option is wpsg, splinter guilds by literal whos have a terrible track record
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>>181937242
no one said anything about reddit?
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>>181937395
>>181937513
>>181937526
The people in discord claimed they were from reddit and inhaler was in the discord.
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>>181937596
There isn't a discord yet, whatever one your in isn't for the /wpsg/ guild.
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>>181937596

Crusader you are literally the stupidest fucking retard i have ever met.
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>trannies are freaking out because they know they will get btfo by /wpsg/ again
Quite literally the best timeline
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just so you know wpsg is dead, any mention of a wpsg guild is a meme
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>/wpsg/ is freaking out because they know they will get btfo by trannies again
Quite literally the best timeline
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>>181937702
>>181937686
I thought I was linked to the /wpsg/ discord but then got trapped in a reddit discord. Or was it not a reddit discord and they were just yanking my chain?
I don't know anymore I just want to play WoW.
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>>181937943
Think and find out for yourself im not spoonfeeding you.
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>>181938156
That just raises even more questions.
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so before the falseflagging gets completely out of hand

There will be a wpsg guild. Anything else has not been decided and probably will not get decided until the release date. Just wait, the announcements probably in less than 2 weeks anyway
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>>181933765
>>181933765
>>181933765
>>181933765

why aren't you linking nor the past thread nor the discord of the other guilds, fuck off

<Hiroshima Heavy Hitters> https://discord.gg/PkPkZPr)
Alliance

<*No name yet*>
https://discord.gg/e3jEKAC)
Horde
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how would you guys feel about me starting a new guild
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>>181938753
As long as there's no trannies or mocky I'd be alright.
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>>181938626
Those are the two guilds then?
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>>181938285
Just wait until release and join whatever guilds are around then. It's not worth stressing over it yet.
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Have no fears, the Loeiz shall bring you the guild you all deserve
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>>181939097
FUCK OFF MOCKY
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>>181938830
the trannies have been slayed in the horde guild
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>>181939301
MOCKY FUCK OFF
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Zuriacore confirmed
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>>181939621
>Valiance

Why does this sound so familiar? Was this the scriptcraft guild?
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>>181939301
>nothing between Babymetal and Manlet
you forgot to ban Madti, Earwen, Indi
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Reminder that 1% hit is nowhere near as good as horde racials and horde racials are objectivly better
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>>181938349
>>181940051
>>181939424
>>181939659
>>181940006
>>181940401
>>181940454
>>181940725
>>181940915

Lurk more retarded vanilla babies
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>>181941279
Nobody wants to be a smelly horde.
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>>181941354
That's fine I am going alliance just stop trying to say how good alliance racials are ehen they're shit compared to horde.
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>>181941279
gosh you horde niggers sure seem defensive. don't worry I'm sure your raid groups filled to the brim with Legolas and xSephirothx will perform up to snuff
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>>181942603
>being this mad you got btfo
>b-but grizzly is going alliance the racials are better
Literally lol
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>>181942979
>all this projection
>grizzly, as if they won't get cucked out of server first again
based retard
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>>181937756
What is with this general and grannies? Why are they always discussed here?
t. Crossboard poster
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>>181933765
Will this server be clique-free? Please tell me the clique stays on Elysium.
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>Grizzly
>Relevant
???
I still think we should steal their guild name.
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>>181943979
Trannies*
Besides crossboard I'm also a phone poster. Suck my dick
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>>181944051
The Clique stays on Elysium. No more tranny drama, no more circlejerking, no more autists sending each other nudes.
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>>181944051
Just don't join a guild that allows attention whoring.
Aka avoid /elyg/ guilds
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>>181944051
"cliques" always happen if you're talking about the exclusion of non clique guild members. I guess only time will tell.
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>>181944581

Read the thread /wpsg/ clique is already in place.
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>>181942603
It's true though. Point for point Horde racials are superior. You don't really need them, but they do make it all easier.
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>>181945068
and I'm still saying you're undervaluing the groupwide draenei hit racial. pvp, yeah horde is superior no doubt barring the one off warrior gnome escape artist. pve on the other hand significantly less so.
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which names are you planning on grabbing as soon as the server goes up
heres my list
madti
mocky
terranaut
grimlic
lindsay
merove
toilet
think i'm missing some good ones
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>>181945569
implying any of these people will care and won't just take an awful name like madtii or maadti because attention whoring is all they have left in their lives
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>>181944841
>>181944051
of course cliques always happen, it's just human nature. But that sort of thing combined with anon generals and discord create a clusterfuck of shitposting (for whatever reason, including genuine malice and just to stir the shit).
A lot of that simply cannot be avoided in a /vg/ guild, at least in my opinion. However I feel like the key to it all is a guildleader and/or officers that will gkick anything that becomes cancerous. No exceptions.
"Cancerous" can be defined differently, so the definition I'm using would include things like rampant attention whoring, nonstop shitposting (some is ok, of course), or basically something that is creating drama for no real reason. And obviously a lot would have to be left to interpretation on a case by case basis rather than "3 memes per hour" rules.

Essentially "don't be a huge dick", which you'd think at least on the surface seems doable even for a /vg/ guild.
I think that's all you really need. The rest can take care of itself. The point should be to have fun, kill bosses, get loot, all with /vg/ bros. Not to bait for (you)s and act like cunty teenage girls to each other.
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>>181945750
Madti will use her Mocky personality on gummy

watch out for a tauren called Moocky
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>>181939860

Yes
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>>181945502
1% hit from Draenei racial is literally 15 rating points. That's like, 3 hit gems replaced by pure stat gems so literally 15 more <primary stat> or 30 AP or 18 spell damage. Or 15 crit/haste rating.
Compared to 300 sp from their racial with 12% uptime (15s duration and 120s cd).
And you can use this with blood lust, drums, any other cooldowns and buffs.

1% hit is best for your melee, but even then it's nothing compared to horde racials.
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>>181945932
>brings up children being annoying on gchat and shitting up a safe space discord nobody uses
>completely leave out the fact that the guild is openly corrupt and distributes loot based on clique popularity points

good show, wpsg shitter, you completely miss the point
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>people still discussing racial benefits of a 13 year old game
it can't get more autistic than this, can it
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>>181946440
>On 4chan
>wow stop talking about min maxing
Maybe reddit or facebook is more your kind of website?
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>>181946237
No, I left that out on purpose because arguing about that makes no difference at the moment.
MoH had several very bad loot council calls for sure, and re-evaluating how loot distribution works would be helpful - plus they could literally look up how LC should really be run to avoid the issues they've had in the past.
But all of that doesn't even come up if you can't get a guild that isn't full on live-action shitposting with cancerous people.

You're 100% correct that it's an important thing but my opinion was that making sure it has a guildleader with a spine would be the first concern, loot stuff further down the road. Maybe I'm wrong.
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>>181946520
nah i enjoyed talking about minmaxing
on elitistjerks
fifty years ago
where everything was thoroughly discussed
and set in stone
by people who didn't have severe autism
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>>181946520
doesn't r/wowservers do nothing but discuss "top guilds" like grizzly and how to minmax 15 year old content that's been theorycrafted and documented for over a decade.
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>tfw no discord action bars for 2.4.3
now what will i autistically configure for hours
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>>181946669
>>181946680
>normies telling 4chan to stop being autistic
You know where you are, right?
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>>181946858
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>>181946680
Not really.
They mostly circlejerk streamer stuff, shill/counter-shill various servers, and create pretty constant bait posts.
In general they don't really mention "top guilds" very often unless it fits some narrative they're currently arguing with someone else about, and any of the advice regarding gameplay is usually very very wrong. Even worse than here.
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>>181946210
Holy shit you ignored it again. Group wide. GROUP WIDE. Multiply the effect by 4 or 5. Don't be so fucking dishonest.
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>>181947006
Group wide it's still fucking worthless compared to horde racials and absolutely fucking wasted if you happen to have more than 1 draenei in a group because it doesn't stack with itself.
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>>181947113
I'm sorry you're a drooling retard, there is nothin to be gained if you can't understand simple math.
>if you have more than 1 draenei in the group
then multiply it by 4 instead, which I said. retard.
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>>181947006
Oh boy so an entire group gets +15 to a stat instead of a +300 sp on use effect with 12% uptime and can be used with other cds?

There's no comparison, it's still not nearly as good as bloodfury even if it was perfectly optimized.
These are the people who have 0 tbc experience yet try to tell you how to play xD
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>they are STILL arguing over racials
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>>181941279
yeah but really its 5% hit dude
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>>181947779
I don't remember if it was on original elysium or early salty dogs on nost, but two warlocks sperged out at each other arguing about warlock mechanics for literally 13 real life hours in guild chat.
I was questing in barrens for a few hours, took a break, came back and they were still at it. It was fucking impressive.
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>>181947996
it's sort of like
neets have super powers
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>>181947668
>+300 sp on use effect with 12% uptime and can be used with other cds
so 36 average - though stacking with other cds makes it more powerful definitely
>+15 to a stat
or +18 sp each, so multiplied by 4 that's 72sp at all times
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>>181947779
It's not even arguing it's one anon who is clinging to some retarded misconception about an expansion he has never played.
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>>181948226
HOLY FUCKING SHIT

GUYS
SEVENTY TWO SPELL POWER
wait
SEVENTY TWO SPELL POWER AT

ALL TIMES

HOW DID WE MISS THIS

no point in raiding now to be completely honest
with seventy two bonus spell power everything will be easymode
lets pack it up and move to another challenging game
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>>181948497
>hordenigger get btfo because bloo bloo blood fury isn't the end all be all
at least your trolls are regenerating hp at all times, and there's nothing I can do about it. chin up
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>>181948226
Except it's much more valuable to use it during blood lust than having just stats the whole fight.
By your own logic 36 *5 = 180 average SP (healers benefit from bloodfury too) for your group compared to 72 with +1 % hit when perfectly min maxed, which isn't always even possible.

So if you used bloodfury in the most unoptimal way it is still twice as good as the hit aura used in the most optimal way. Do you need me to draw you a picture?
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>>181933765
>/felyg/
>/elyg/
bravo
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Why are there so many elitist niggers doing math about stats in my thread? I thought the goal of WoW is to have fun.
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>>181948880
what the fuck do you mean fun we're going after all of the realm first achievements with our guild can you get the fuck out of this general go to leddit or wherever you came from you fucking retard
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>it's another /wpsg/ btfos /elyg/ episode
Getting tired of this same shit every day and there isn't even a release date.
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>>181948701
Well perfectly min maxed would be 90, but I assumed for draenei shaman healer and not the 1 ele that is permissible, or having 2 draenei in the group. Fortunately the +5% int gnome racial needs to be included too. I like how an entire group, granted without stacking, is only twice as effective as 1 draenei.
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>>181945569
terranaut has always been an account name for me and i already have that, character names are different
:1)
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>>181948880
>playing an rpg
>not theorycrafting
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>>181949115
>>181949532
Oh shit why didn't you say so.
In any case, are you guys going horde or alliance? I haven't quite been paying attention.
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>>181949453
It's still worse than using bloodfury randomly, even if you include an ele sham and 4 mages (if you don't understand why this is a retarded raid comp and use of your elesham then just don't reply for both our sake).

It really isn't as good as you think. It's probably the best racial alliance have and it's absolutely nothing compared to a single horde racial.
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Why aren't you playing arenas on Warmane Outland?
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>>181948701
>Do you need me to draw you a picture?
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>unironically playing on a jewshop funserver
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>>181949784
exams :-(
i'm coming to take rank 1 in 3v3 next week when my shits over
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ded thread
ded game
ded server


crestfall pls save us
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Is Shaman forced to be a healslut in BC or are either of the DPS roles actually viable?
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>>181949770
>ele sham and 4 mages
what, have you raided in BC? It'll be 2 (or 3) locks 1 (or 0) mages, shaman, spriest. melee group will be along the lines of warrior, rogue, 2 hunter, enhance
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>>181950502
>(if you don't understand why this is a retarded raid comp and use of your elesham then just don't reply for both our sake)
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>>181950495
The DPS roles can hit top with the right gear that's why I'm rolling a shammy.
>>181950502
>>181950585
WHAT FUCKING FACTION
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what's leveling a rouge like? I've never done it before.
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>>181950495
shaman are the most desired class because their group buffs are great. if you suck the gm's dick you might be the 1 potential enhance/ele and not any or the resto's. Resto sham is a phenomenal healer.
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>>181949784
But I am dudu!
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>everyone are super stressed out over what guild to join
>95% of these people are not even gonna make it to 70 withing the time frame most guilds expect them to
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>>181950495
1 enh for melee, 2 ele max probably
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GUMMY
WHEN
W H E N
H
E
N
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>>181950585
>muh ignite
how is adding crit for imp shadowbolt a bad idea?
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>>181951080
didn't you figure it out
gummy is a meme
noone is actually gonna play there lol
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>>181950502
>melee group
>2 hunter
are you retarded?
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>>181943979
>What is with this general and grannies?
They smell funny and always drive twenty below the speed limit.
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>>181951182
0.02 warmane credits have been deposited into your account

lol lol lol lol
lol lol lol lol
lol lol lol lol
lol lol lol lol
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>>181951534
they dont pay them with credits
they pay them by bumping them up the bot queue a little bit
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>>181950495
All 3 specs are pretty much required for a good raid
If you get to 70 ahead of the pack guilds will want to pick you up fast
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Anyone west coast and playing late at night here? I need friends.
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>>181951182
I'm on Warmane currently, but I really hope Gummy becomes the dominate server because the exp boost is really annoying. I like how I can just skip vanilla content, but there are a lot of players who NEED that content to learn their class so you have a lot of 70s that are trash. There would still be trash 70s, but I've had mages try sheeping demons and complain saying I broke their sheep with my consecrate.
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>>181952298
yeah but i dont wanna play with fags sorry
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>people putting kappa at the end of their sentences in general chat
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>>181952370
>yeah but i dont wanna play with fags sorry
only one time in college and it doesn't count, fuck you
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>>181949784
why don't arena niggers just play League instead
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>>181950726
easy
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>>181952918
>Hur why are you having fun pvping
>just play other game instead
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i'm new to the whole private server scene and have been on the fence about starting a character on elysium since i figured everyone will soon quit and go gummy, but after logging in and seeing chat, i have decided that it is the right place for me. any fellow magapedes here gonna stay on ely with me? AWOOO PRAISE KEK
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>>181947840
Back when I raided in BC I ended up over the hit cap, because I never knew if there will be a Draenei in my team or not, so many of those theoretical stat points are getting wasted.
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>>181953115
MMOs will never be balanced for competitive play, I don't know why this is surprising to anyone
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>>181953287
maga memers are just as obnoxious as trannies to be honest.
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>>181953332
You could always just keep an extra piece of gear or two with better non-hit stats if you get a Draenei in your group. It's a very elemental and basic thing that almost anyone raiding on a remotely successful level does.
Are you dumb?
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>>181953287
Stay on r/the_donald you mong
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>>181953535
He was clearly being sarcastic you dense motherfucker
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>>181953364
Nobody ever claimed this, it can still be fun to play regardless.
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>>181953532
Getting multiple top level sets of gear is only possible if your guild sucks and can't progress through content for months at a time or if all the gear gets funnelled to you. Stop being bad, cliqueshitter.
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>>181952623

>twitch memotes anywhere but on twitch
>green text anywhere but on 4chan

worst types of faggotry
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>>181953830
>guy with an anime avatar is greentexting in the youtube comments
every time
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>>181954063

>guy with an anime avatar

thats top cancer right there
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>>181952360
>players who NEED that content to learn their class

having a bar to entry for the types of people that normally never make it past level 20 without boosted rates is what makes MMOs worth playing.

even trying to do a regular 5man on a boosted server is an absolute nightmare, and it's not just because they don't know how to play their class.
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>>181954063
>>181953830
This post reminded me of this image I took a few years ago. Thank fuck for the not interested feature.
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>>181953830
>>181954063
>>181954282
Without exception, when you end up talking to someone like this on discord, they have the faggiest lisping voice imaginable, almost as if they're roleplaying as a weeb homo.
Snide, if anyone remembers him, would fit all of those descriptions.
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>>181954508
Unless they're chinese, cause they're shit even if they get to 70 without being boosted.
>restor main speced shaman wanted to be able to reserve the dps caster pants from H BM
>caster protests and the shaman cause them a asshole in broken english
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>>181953364
>MMOs will never be balanced for competitive play

And who the fuck cares?
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corecraft when?
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>>181955019
right around the corner
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>>181954728
>when you end up talking to someone like this on discord

redditscord cancer please leave
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>>181949784
I fucking knew you were a warmane kike nigger
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>>181953761
>>181954904
>I just play for fun
>comes to the thread to talk down to people for being "PvE noobs"

you get laughed out of every other game so you go to lol10 to play arena, I'm not surprised.
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>>181955572
yeah its cancer but there isnt any way to avoid it now so it doesn't fucking matter.
Have fun getting in guilds or raids if you refuse to use it. It's too easy compared to every other option.
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>>181955905
Yeah I play for fun but also top the ladder, try hards like you that fail at everything are pathetic desu senpai.
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>>181955905
>comes to the thread to talk down to people for being "PvE noobs"

Why are you just making things up that never happened?
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>>181954728
>Snide

hahahaha, isn't that some grizzly faggot?
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>>181956182
that's what you did last thread and you posted the same webms? fuck off to wowg, maybe there's a competitive arena scene there for you
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>>181955923
>I'm cancer but it can't be helped senpai
>>
I think it's time someone posts it again
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>>181956379
>don't post anything pvp related or you will trigger people
Lol this is pathetic.
You're still claiming things that never happened anywhere but in your head.
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>>181956539
>replying for no reason other than to be a faggot
Can you think of one raiding guild that doesn't use discord?
Even most pugs are going to require you login and listen at the very least.

I know that sucks but sometimes things suck and there isn't anything you can do about it. Go make a guild and require everyone to use teamspeak or vent instead, see how that goes.
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>>181956853
>redditscord shill this mad

are you going to go on a tangent about how reddit isn't so bad and is good for certain things next? nobody cares if your guild can't afford a real voice server
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>>181957305
The only one that keeps bringing up reddit is you, why is that?
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>Downloading client
>Wifi fucks over
>Lose the download 5.2 GB in
This is okay. I'm not mad.
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>>181958457
>wifi
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>>181958504
Yes. Wifi.
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>>181956853
>guild and require everyone to use teamspeak or vent instead, see how that goes

what's supposed to happen in this scenario, all the loyal discord users will have an uprising and leave the guild? vent is too inconvenient you'll have to use a separate client to trade child pictures.
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>wow discord sucks lol reddit!
>okay buy a vent server with at least 25 slots and we can use that
>uhhhh
Exactly
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>>181958457
Use a LAN cable you faggot
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>>181959097
Literally why
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>>181959042
what's the problem, is the meme about private servers being for literal retards on welfare that can't afford a sub true?
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>>181959241
So your Wifi literally doesn't fuck over?
It's superior in every possible way
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>>181959346
What's LAN?
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>>181956853
>Go make a guild and require everyone to use teamspeak or vent instead, see how that goes.

They just download the free client and get on it?
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>>181959291
The point is there's no reason to pay for vent when discord is free. If it's such a big deal for you then buy your guild a vent server and pay for less slots and less features than discord.
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>>181959529
The server isn't free you fucking mongoloid retard, Discord is unique in that regard
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>>181959584
>less features

what. also what fucking shit guilds do you play on that can't afford 5 dollars for a vent server
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>>181959684
>>181959584
>it's free

if you don't have to pay for the product, you are the product :v)
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>>181959694
Nobody dislikes discord enough to pay $5 for vent, and why should they? Vent doesn't offer anything discors doesn't in a way that's worth $5, not voice quality or slots.
Sorry vent can't keep up with the times, discord makes it look like a dinosaur.
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>>181959684
I didn't expect you to so retarded but apparently you are even below 80 of iq.
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fuck everyone on discord
im serious, if you are on discord you should kill yourself
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le aunt poisoner
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>>181960003
nice argument faggot, oh wait there isn't one!
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>>181959965
>one person pays $5 for a year of a server
>everyone in the guild uses the server
>discord is better so you can be a part of the new kids club and chinese botnet
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>>181960148
I don't another one because you clearly lack the intellect to understand a simple sentence.
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wait are you telling me I shouldn't have gotten the mageblade over people who deserved it more
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>>181960198
Don't forget you don't even need to pay if you have a spare pc you can host your server on.
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>>181960204
And you lack the intellect to construct a simple sentence you dumb faggot. The point is that nobody is going to bother renting a vent or ts if Discord is free, the client doesn't fucking matter you dumb shit.
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>>181960198
Nobody wants to pay $5 for no reason anon.
You can keep strawmanning all you want about being part of the discord circle jerk but in the end you can't give a single reason why someone should pay $5 for a vent server.

Really try without ad homs or greentext, I will wait
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discord helps a lot with forming your guild into an actual community when the raidlogging starts

the only people who hate it are the super antisocial faggots that are antisocial even by /r9k/ standards
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>>181960316
What kind of fucking toaster are you playing on that you couldn't just host a TS server on the computer you're playing on?
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>>181960513
Some people don't like chinese botnets.
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>>181960464
My guild master on Kronos refused to use Discord because of the drama it created and it didn't push anyone away, but as soon as we switched to Discord about a half a year in things went to shit with cliques
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>>181960558
>le botnet

see, only antisocial nerds hate it
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>>181960513
>super antisocial faggots that are antisocial even by /r9k/ standards

normies calling me a loser because I don't like to socialize on their steam group ... wow that's harsh
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>>181943514
grizzly have gotten guild first on pretty much every server recently
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>>181960513
hello normie
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>>181960624
I assumed you weren't dumb enough to just give me your personal antidotes but I was wrong, can you give me an actual reason?
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>>181960721
>pretty much every server

ahahahahahahaaha

they were like third to kill anything on elysium ahahaahahah
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>>181960872
b-but the other 3 guilds c-cheated...
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>>181960334
Stay mad retard, hope you enjoy the chinese mining bitcoins with your gpu.
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>discord creates cliques

literally everyone can use it
it's a guild chat for people who are offline
if you think discord is clique then so is the ingame guildchat
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>>181961098
here you go >>181960067
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>>181960513
>what is the guild chat

Social media fags need to hang themselves.
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http://www.strawpoll.me/13363380

NEW POLL FOR THE NEW GUILD
PLEASE VOTE
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>>181960828
just look at the MoH discord. it speaks for itself
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>i..it's discords fault im an antisocial retard!!
lmao, just lmao
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>>181962393
>i have no real argument I am just butthurt about shitposters
>/vg/ never had shitposters before this is all discords fault
Epic
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>>181962000
Kill yourself mocky.
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one day mocky is actually going to kill himself and you'll all regret having driven a young man to such an end
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>>181962589
who are you quoting?
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>>181962750
there are none so blind as those who will not see. good luck
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>>181962965
Tucker, is that you?
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>>181963053
So you're just giving up? I specifically asked for a reason to pay for a vent server and all you have are antidotes.
If you're having such a hard time justifying why someone should pay for vent in 2017 it's probably because there's no reason to do it.
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>>181962589
literally who are you quoting right now?
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i love mocky!!
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>>181963578
mocky FUCK OFF
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>>181963456
>all you have are antidotes

the absolute state of underage shitposter discords
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>>181960828
>personal antidotes
That's what you need, a personal antidote for that mental illness of yours.
But sure, buddy, I'll expand on my anecdote. Here's what happens.

Guild starts out using Vent. Everyone has their own people that they mesh well with, and they generally whisper each other individually and hang out in the same vent channel, but anyone can (and does) join that channel, participate in conversation, and feel welcomed. Private whispers between people are one-on-one conversations, and don't really facilitate the growth of cliques.
Move to Discord. Things start out mostly the same, but within a week, two different groups have created their own individual discords and mostly hang out in there. The guild discord is mostly composed of the guild leader, new members, people not part of any cliques, and clique members when their buddies aren't online. These clique members can frequently be seen leaving the discord as more people get online so that they can go off in their own discord. About a month later, behind-the-scenes shittalking is rampant, people are insulting one another, and several people split off to join other raiding guilds they perceive to be more hardcore.

All of this is very much possible without discord, but it's a very natural progression with it.
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>>181963787
Allow me to play doubles advocate here for a moment. For all intensive purposes I think you are wrong. In an age where false morals are a diamond dozen, true virtues are a blessing in the skies. We often put our false morality on a petal stool like a bunch of pre-Madonnas, but you all seem to be taking something very valuable for granite. So I ask of you to mustard up all the strength you can because it is a doggy dog world out there. Although there is some merit to what you are saying it seems like you have a huge ship on your shoulder. In your argument you seem to throw everything in but the kids Nsync, and even though you are having a feel day with this I am here to bring you back into reality. I have a sick sense when it comes to these types of things. It is almost spooky, because I cannot turn a blonde eye to these glaring flaws in your rhetoric. I have zero taller ants when it comes to people spouting out hate in the name of moral righteousness. You just need to remember what comes around is all around, and when supply and command fails you will be the first to go.

Make my words, when you get down to brass stacks it doesn't take rocket appliances to get two birds stoned at once. It's clear who makes the pants in this relationship, and sometimes you just have to swallow your prize and accept the facts. You might have to come to this conclusion through denial and error but I swear on my mother's mating name that when you put the petal to the medal you will pass with flying carpets like it’s a peach of cake.
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>>181963787
>>181963868
I didn't even read your post because all the people who don't like discord are tranasexuals from my own personal experience and therefore not worth reading posts by them.

See why personal antidotes aren't arguments yet?
Still waiting to know why anyone should pay $5 for no benefit. All the guilds I have been in that used discord were completely normal and fine.
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>>181964217
>he does it again
Oh my fuck I am laffin. Good show m8.
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>>18196443 6
>can't even respond but still gives me a (you).
P-please buy a v-vent server!
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>>181964436
Just imagine he's Ricky from Trailer Park Boys. It's hilariously accurate.
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>pay $5 for no reason
Let me guess, you donated $10 to skip the queue on molten didn't you
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Anyone have a link to a large TBC addon pack? I've checked OP links, and I have Detonate's addon pack but I can't find shit like Satrina Buff Frames. I'm sure there's plenty of others missing.
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>>181965039
>>181964217
>Julian, It’s Ricky here, look, I just wanted to call and thank you for that car again, because of you Lucy and I are back in love again and that’s fuckin awesome. And the other thing I wanted to talk to you about is this Discord bullshit, I try to tell them how useless their fuckin personal antidotes are and how from my own personal experience all the people who don’t like discord are tranasexuals, but I’m still waiting to know why anyone should pay $5 for no benefit when you could just smoke some weed or buy some pepperoni. Anyways, I’m kind of counting on you to help handle this, but it’s up to you and I just hope you don’t feel guilty when Lucy and I break up because I’m spending all my time on this bullshit and you know you could have prevented it.
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>>181949784
cuz we're not retarded
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>located in new york
so it'll be up for a day
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>>181969431
Hello fellow /elyg/ poster.
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So druids have a lot of arena comps. Priests have, what, 1? Do shaman and pallies have any, warrior maybe?
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>>181969980
Warrior + Healer is the 2 comp to go once you're geared.
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GUMMY FUCKING WHEN

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>181969980
Disc/rogue
Shadow/rogue
Disc/warrior
Disc/mage
Shadow/warlock
Shadow/mage
Disc/hunter

Might be missing a few, some are more visble in s1 than others.
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>tfw wow's font aliasing is hideous dogshit
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>tfw felmyst is still in beta
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>>181970776
Oh wow I didn't realize it was so varied. Then again I shouldn't be too shocked I guess even seemingly just for fun comps will probably end up doing very well in the hands of skilled players. Dang, gummy when, can't wait to get this shit going messing around with instant 70's got old after testing a bunch of classes and seeing what felt good.
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>tfw NO FUCKING RELEASE DATE
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Hey guys Babymetal here please unban me from your discord.
I'm not a tranny, I've never claimed to be a tranny. I am not breaking your no tranny rule

By keeping me out you reveal yourselves as an anti-MOH clique. Ironic isn't it?
Anyway, I just wanted to say sorry. Please give me a chance, I just want to play gummy with vg and make friends. I'm sure we can all get along. :)
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>>181973762
keep this 17 year old banned if you know whats good for you, /felyg/
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>find guild that is planning on raiding at perfect time for me
>join their discord, dude has me fill out application, whatever no big deal
>do so, then he asks me a lot of questions about where i live, if i work or am I married, and if i can commit 12+ hours a day at launch to race to 70 to start gearing since he wants server firsts
>say that i'm not into racing but i'll get there asap, leveling isn't rough but don't plan on poopsocking
>removed from discord

ok then. sheesh.
Thank you for reading my blog.
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>>181933765
HOLD THE FUCK UP

Is that a direct download to the TBC client?!
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>want to play TBC
>gummy is ded
>got no geared character on Warmane

delet this feel
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>>181974401
>warmane

he's back guys
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>>181973762
>you reveal yourselves as an anti-MOH clique
yeah, and?
>ironic isn't it?
No. Its not at all ironic that people respond to loathsome things with disdain and hatred. It's fully expected.
>:)
(You)
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>>181974105
That's how it is on retail too, guilds don't want to waste their time with someone who isn't willing to put in the work, they're not looking to carry.
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>>181974608
On retail you get randomly asked if you're interested in mythic raiding by top 5 guilds from your realm, because they are that starved for players.
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>>181974496

Who? I avoid these threads like the plague. Only when I am extremely bored do I come here.
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>>181974608
Nah, that's fine. I just wish he had been clear about that in his recruitment and he could have mentioned poopsocking to 70 FIRST instead of grilling me for 20 minutes about if I have a girlfriend or if I'm married.
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>>181974105
>since he wants server firsts
>on a private server
>that's not even out yet

you dodged a bullet senpai
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>>181974105
You can join my guild but you'll be expected to drop your entire life and move into a bunkhouse with the rest of your guildmates. We're really fun people. Also, I'd like to talk to you about our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
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>LoS is broken, for the most part
>various TBC dungeons have heroic elements in their normal versions, making them way more difficult than they should be
>pet pathfinding is horrendous
>enemies flee faster than you can run
>every other quest is broken
>devs lie about their population to get that sweet, sweet "donation" $$$
>literal cashshop on their x5 server
Warmane is such a shitfest. Felmyst CANNOT come soon enough.
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>>181974348
I'm not sure, I torrented mine originally

Is that a direct download?
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>>181975005
Yep, I agree that it shouldn't matter, seems pretty silly. But that was the only guild so far that had times I was into, so I felt like I had to give it a go.
Actually reading the forums now and the dude has been arguing with other guilds all day so you're probably right about dodging a bullet.
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>>181970776
can't wait to play disc/hunt again, always loved the comp

also drain comp in 3s
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any guilds that need to advertise are shit. all good guilds are going to be already established from previous servers not recruit from r/wowservers like Grizzly
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>>181975673
>grizzly
>good
lol
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>>181975130
I think so? It says 8 gigs when I try to download it, anyone know?
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>>181960067
Doesn't this get tiring to post every thread? You don't even get any (You)s.
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>>181976695
the sounds about right
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>>181975085
>pet pathing is horrendous
Nice b8
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>>181977543
>new IP

lol
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>>181933765
Is the client they offer safe? I know I sound stupid asking this, but I remember the original Nostalrius client had some crazy adware going for it

Don't want a repeat of that.
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>>181977762
It's fine.
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>>181939860
>>181939621

<autism> is the true scriptcraft guild
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>>181978818

Didn't it die in like 2 weeks having done nothing but UBRS?
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Isn't it amazing how a video game can create such a strong community?

Ah! I cant wait to play with you all.
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>>181979216

yea an angry ausfag ruined it all then everyone went to <wired> or rerolled to alliance to become part of the everlasting tranny squad that still exists to this day
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>gummy said that the open beta that running now will be half as short as the previous beta that ran last time
>its already almsot a month and still counting

felmyst never
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>>181980308
Closed beta was like forever.
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>>181980308
He said the last phase will be shorter, meaning the last testing phase that we're in right now after he enabled instant 70.
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>>181979951
>new IP
>>
CRESTFALL
FUCKING
WHEN
???
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>>181981128
Head dev assured us it won't be any later than winter 2016, so anytime now.
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>>181981128
>400msfall
>>
>you can sit on the chairs in the inn in Shatrath's lower city

IMMERSION
FUCKING
RUINED

gummy fix this shit
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Is there some sort of custom gem vendor on gummy beta or you have to cut the gems yourself/use white shitgems?
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>>181981312
>being a third world amerimongrel

embarrassing
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>>181981636
https://felmyst.com/database/?npc=19538
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>>181981226
I can feel it senpaitachi, CF is right around the corner!
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>>181981760
CF has an internal 400ms delay on spells
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>>181982034
>that warmane shill that has no idea what he's talking about
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>>181982146
Do you not know what the spell delay mechanic is? Retail has it as well, has nothing to do with internet connection, it is a built in 400ms delay on spells

http://forums.crestfall-gaming.com/index.php?/topic/2154-the-horde-being-better-in-pve-during-aq-and-naxx-rumor/&page=2#comment-32476
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>>181982262
>Retail has it as well
whats the problem then
>>
>>181982262
But it doesn't?
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>>181982571
You have no idea what I'm even talking about since you thought I was referring to player MS and not the delay mechanic

And no, retail hasn't had it since Vanilla and it was never 400ms

FYI, it is fucking awful and their reasoning for putting it in makes no sense
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>>181982571
Nostalrius is just like Vanilla and it didn't have a spell delay, how fucking retarded are you
>>
Does TBC have the same issue Vanilla has where you can't start casting a spell until your client receives word from the server that your previous spell finished casting? It effectively increases your GCD by your ping unless you have a modded client
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>>181982712
Wasn't it changed somewhere during vanilla.
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>>181982814
Yes, thats why I said it hasn't been a thing since Vanilla
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>>181982751
And neither did retail, just go watch some vanilla kill videos.
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>>181982882
>something is a certain way during Vanilla
>they put it in the server because it's Blizzlike
>stop it, it's not Bliz- ... Nostlike!
>>
How do you even level up Blacksmithing in this expansion holy shit

I've been trying to level it up on Outland to get Stormherald and I am honestly farming (had to level up mining too) 4-5 hours a day for 7 days now and I'm at 150 skill.
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>>181982882
I was just asking because I don't remember when it went away.
Stop yelling at me.
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>>181983128
why don't you go link your "kill videos" on the Crestfall forums, I'm sure they'll be impressed by your observation skills and change it back
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>>181983246
Blacksmithing is always a shitshow.
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>>181983246
by buying mats from the Auction house, oh wait there's nothing on the auction house because the server doesn't have an economy. well you can just buy one from the cash shop :v)
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>>181983203
400ms isn't remotely blizzlike, try and keep up
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>>181983358
Nigger there are 2006 videos of paladins, priests and shamans literally side stepping or backpedaling to cancel a heal and their heals popping instantly on targets.
So no, 400ms meme delay was never a fucking thing unless you played on fucking dial-up.
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>>181983575
>>181983513
why don't you fuck off back to wowservers, nobody cares retard. your imaginary server doesn't exist
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>>181983875
Not an argument
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Enough about vanilla gaming, this is a burning crusade general... you have yours! Play fair.
>>
there's a delay between what you see in-game and what's actually happening. you're always half a second behind on your screen, so how would you know there's no delay by "watching Vanilla kill videos"
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>>181984186
Because by reading just a few sentences of the dev post you'd know why he is bullshitting
>>
>wowservers forum warriors upset about a server that doesn't exist
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>>181984186
Because it actually goes more like this:
Tank takes damage
Information about taking damage is sent to the Tank player and other players nearby, so they see he lost hp.
Healer finishes casting a heal.
Information about the heal being finished is sent to the server. Server processes it and sends an update on the tank's status to the players nearby.
Tank hp bounces back.
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i want animeposters to be worked to death in sulfur mines
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>>181985886
brutal
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>>181984507
who are you quoting?
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how do you decide between rolling a warrior or a priest?
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>>181989949
warrior if you want fun

priest if you want to kill yourself
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>>181989949
JUST roll warrior
>>
gummy literally launching right now, get HYPE
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>>181990646
Won't be for at least another week.
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>>181991224
>neet since january
>gummy's is coming out right as I start a new job
>>
it's

fucking

up

holy

shit
>>
ITS HAPPENING
>>
>>181993662
LITERALLY UP
>>
Did Blizzard get him already?
>>
HOLY SHIT, THE ABSOLUTE MADMAN DID IT, HE ACTUALLY RELEASED THE SERVER
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>>181994712
He didn't. Unless I'm supposed to keep my beta characters.
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>>181994809
You can't even log into the game, they're doing site maintenance. Hopefully we get some release news, maybe it will come out tomorrow even since it will be saturday in the US.
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>>181995006
It's just going to be another round of bugfixes like every other time.
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>>181994712
BETA HAS BEEN WIPED

I REPEAT

THIS IS NOT A DRILL
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>>181995006
I managed to log in a minute or two ago, actually.
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>>181994809
the fuck would you know, you cant even login the server
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>>181995049
WE HAVE TO BELIEVEEEEE
>>
false alarm, the test is back on boys

gummy literally never ever
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>>181995664
Told you so.
>>
so, now that we all agree that Gummy will never launch, where do we move to while waiting for Crestfall?
Northcraft?
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>>181997337
I was thinking about that since I'm real casual when it comes to online games. A lot of design decision in Wrath really upset me though.
>>
>>181997337
>>181997745
Hello warmane kike.
>>
>>181997745
but anon, wrath is the best expansion
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>>181997829
Thematically and aesthetically yes. It also got the nice graphical upgrade.
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>>181997949
it had the best PvP which is what i mainly care for

it also had the best raid ingame(uld)so PvE was gucci too

the only bad thing about wotlk was rdf and it came at the end anyway
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>>181998469
>it had the best PvP which is what i mainly care for

hang the fuck on, s6 and s8 wizards, pve trinkets and legendaries were all fucking retarded, also the 2 shittiest arena maps ever seen in the game.
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>>181998469
achievements were rather cancerous, no?
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>>181998469
Ah see I don't care about mmo pvp, never have. Yes we got Ulduar but also Trial of the Crusader. Another reason is that there is quite literally no reason to not play a plate-wearing human. Its ridiculous and shit like this bugs me in video games, I know theres a term for it but I forget. And yes fuck RDF.
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>>181998689
Yeah that too, fuck cheevos and gearscore.
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>>181998689
They didn't seem so bad at first. I know I liked them in WAR but no one played that longer than a month or two anyhow.
>>181998625
not necessarily defending wrath arena seasons but I can't think of any seasons where there wasn't something glaringly broken.
100% agree that the new arena maps were fucking terrible.
My biggest complaint wrath onward was that it was so many humans and that so many people switched due to the racial. Lots of people felt like they had to, and as that went on it created a huge imbalance that lasted I think until WoD at least but I'd have to look it up.
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>>181998936
gearscore was actually a good thing tbqh
noone used it in guilds and it was really useful in pugs, people are cancer so i'll just jack up the gs requirement so they get carried by their items
i might start forcing gearscore on gummy, if there's a normal gs addon for tbc
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>>181998689
i dont think they did, i dont think they had any impact on the game?like, they were there, but do people really cared about them?just a neat addition to keep a track on some of the stuff you've done, i never really payed attention to them
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>>181999207
>i might start forcing gearscore on gummy, if there's a normal gs addon for tbc
Fucking kill yourself.
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>>181999381
Certain groups would require you to link your achievement if you wanted to group with them. Just more faggy elitism in an already casual mmo. They did the same shit with gearscore.
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>>181999187
The human racial was very strong because of the pve trinkets, iirc from pandaland on pve gear became completely useless in pvp, at that point the racial was just a meme for shitters.

>but I can't think of any seasons where there wasn't something glaringly broken.

S5 hunters,dks Hpala deep in ret for repentance, S6 prot-holy pala and wizards, S7 was actually good, S8 wizards and retarded comps like the african turtle cleave with the prot warrior running with exactly 47 resilience and full pve gear, TSG with double shadowmourne, double healer prot pally and I think there was more stupid shit like that.

I mean I played MM/surv hunter and affly lock to high level and I really really enjoyed the pvp but the homogenization and pvp balancing trend of 3v3s only (now that I remember in S7 they removed rewards from 2v2s) is what brought the game to the shitness that is today.
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what unit frames should i use bros
im using pitbull atm but the focus frame is constantly flashing for some reason
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>>181999786
you're a fucking degenerate, do you know that?
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>>181999765
yeah, that was cancer, but i never really did pugs and i had good guild so cancer like gs and achievements didnt really reach me
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>>181999765
i usually just spammed them with their own achievements, most of the time they don't even click to check
wotlk was a good expansion
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>>182000373
>tfw when you played on a small server where everyone knew each other

I miss the small communities.
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>well scripted pvp from warmane,possibly a tbc style arena tournament realm in the future
>gummy releasing a 1x tbc server with top notch pve

It's finally here, so many years of boring vanilla and rushing through wotlk...
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>>182000863
>well scripted pvp from warmane
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Why is there a general for a server that's going to shut down within a week... just play on Elysium - a server that's going to progress to TBC and won't shut down.
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>>182002301
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>>181934195
>elyg infecting another general
No thanks. Someone start up a different guild please.
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>>182002576
It looks like the guild is going to be named pupper pals, the people have spoken :v)
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>>182003185
>playing with a /vg/ guild
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>>182003416
>not joining based manlet's guild on gummy
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>>182002576
>>182002576
theres already a guild thats not with the filthy tranny degenerates
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>>182003643
/ourgirl/ madti is going to save us from the trannies!
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>>181999207
Have fun getting yourself blacklisted from every group.
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>>182001115
It unironically has better pvp mechanics than gummy.
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>>182003936
yes, because it's not out yet
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>>182003936
Which PvP mechanic works on Warmane's that doesn't on Gummy's?
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>>182004373
shut up gummy shill, you probably don't even have gladiator on warmane
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>FAQ
>no launch date or dates at all
uh, is this the quality we can expect from the server?
what kind of FAQ wouldn't have the most obvious FAQ
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i'm gonna violently cum in gummy's bum
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>>182005537
>>182004635
gummy will shut down in a month
enjoy it while it lasts
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>>182005616
tf is gummy
this is felyg
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>>182005801
shut up kid
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>>182005616
>x server will shut down within a month
Where have a heard this before?
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>>181999968
I haven't tried it so not sure if this helps, but there is an addon called "focus frame" that lets you customize your focus frame and supposedly fixes whatever issue pitbull has with it.
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>>182005885
Elysium was DoA
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>>182005616
COUGHS
UP
BLOOD
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>>182004373
>Deadly throw didn't silence the target with pvp gloves equipped
>Players casting first aid did not have their channeling interrupted if they took damage while under ice barrier or pws
>stealthed targets did not lose stealth instantly when a dot or non instant damafe spell was cast on them

There were some more like fel hunters spamming their dispel on targets with undispellable buffs and some inconsistencies but I can't remember them all. He could have easily fixed some of these but I know he doesn't prioritize pvp as much as pve so I stopped testing it.
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>>182005616
it prolly shut down in 4-5 months

which is fine with me, i just need a good server to mess around until Crestfall releases
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>>182006685
And cloak of shadows doesn't give you spell immunity on warmane lol.
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>>182006812
Yes it does, what are you talking about?
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>>182006685
>I know he doesn't prioritize pvp

source?
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>minigames
>in a tab target hotkey based MMO

ummmmmmmmmm

lol?
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>>182007095
It's something he said when people were asking him about deadly throw mechanics (when it should silence was changed in 2.4.3 to when the spell was cast, prior it was when the projectile landed). He said he wasn't going to spend the time fixing it because it was in his eyes minor/unnecessary and pvp related which he has never liked/focused on.

This was in closed beta discord but I don't think he has changed his mind in it. I think he just views it as a minigame and would rather focus on making pve as blizzlike as possible.
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okay, maybe im dumb, but can someone redpill me on this

>Although posts have touched on this topic we felt that an official statement was in order so that it is documented for new individuals to review.

This project will indefinitely remain non-profit, in every way. The costs for hosting are a non-issue and we will never accept donations, at all. There will never be a cash shop of any kind, not even for vanity items. We believe that even the appearance of profit can be counter productive to building and maintaining a fun, friendly and healthy community and we thank our followers for their continued support.

i mean, im glad that there isnt a donation item shop and similar cancer like on other servers, but why are they so dead set about the no donation whatsoever(even if its just a "real" donation, meaning you dont get shit in return for it)?Isnt running a (eventually)huge server requiring a butload of money?In any case, it seems to me like its gonna be pretty expensive, no?
Is that Gummy nerd some kind of altruistic millionaire who just does it for fun?Does he have some kind of sugar daddy?Maybe some rich arab, son of a oil-well owner who loves TBC decided to pay for everything?Shit seems weird to me
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>>182007346
?
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>>182007520
He has a job
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>slavs throw up a stock core BC server to get in on gummy hype that's been building up for 8 years
>warmane with no developers somehow now has better "PvP mechanics" than even gummycraft, making it the favoured server for arena faggots (even over Felmyst)
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>>182007520
that's how they avoid blizzard
much like how SWG is being ran in the US in spite of Disney
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>>182007873
>no developers
There are so many legitimate ways to shit on mol10,i don't understand why you chose to make things up

>>182007936
Blizzard doesn't care if you're non-profit they will still try just as hard to shut you down.
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>>182007520
did you actually believe Shenna needed thousands of dollars every week to pay for "server hosting" of Elysium, anon?
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>>182007662
even more of a reason to need money for that server
how can you spend most of your time at your job and then have to deal with expensive as fuck project thats really time consuming too?

>>182007936
okay, but that doesnt really answer the question.
how does he have the money to run this
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>>182008097
I agree, Felmyst will be shut down within a week and has no PvP scene, also most top end PvE guilds are staying on Elysium.
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>>182007873
>there are 5 or 6 bugs that are actively getting fixed because of how many people finally able to test arena's now
>this means warmane's is a better pvp server

it's almost as if this is a beta

better roll on warmane where you get banned for reporting bugs instead
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>>182008284
>expensive as fuck

based on what, all the developers and staff are volunteers.
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>>182008284
>expensive as fuck project thats really time consuming too?

LOL, guys, he thinks server hosting for a wow private server is expensive. I think he's being serious too.
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Can mods start banning warmane kikes please? Their shit-posting is getting old.
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>>182008289
>>182008337
Gummy doesn't have pvp bugs molten shill the server is perfect but if there's a bug it's still in beta shill
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>>182008284
>expensive as fuck project
I bet you actually believed the rebirth dev when he said it costs thousands of dollars a month.
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>>182008615
>Gummy doesn't have pvp bugs

Who are you quoting?
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>>182008609
Yeah they should just play gummy it's the perfect server already but it's still beta so you know but you cant find any bugs though because it's perfect already i though it was 2007 lol xD
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>>182008284
it's like 40K/year to host a simple MMO server for 5-10K people
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guys remember that time Elysium threatened to shut the servers down if they couldn't collect 10 thousand dollars in donations for "server hosting"
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>Hosting is quite inexpensive.The project wouldn't feel the same if we accepted donations.I want this to be a fun and friendly place.Best to keep things pure.

they actually fell for it, lmao
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>>182008772
>strawmen

Come back when you have a real argument warmane shill.
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>>182007520
Here's the redpill that is actually legit. It's the manner in which other long standing private server projects like P1999 Everquest are run legally.

1) The server core has to be scratch built or an open source project that has nothing to do with the game ceveloper's actual server code.
2) The players have to play the game using legally obtained copies of the client. A player CAN download a torrent of the game client if they can legally prove that at one time, they owned a legal copy and played it. Bank records of paying a monthly sub at some point is fine for this.
3) The server project is run under the "for educational purposes" clause and must be completely, absolutely, non profit for the server host and staff. Staff members cannot even take payment in any form regarding the project, from the admin or other players.
4) If donations are allowed, no virtual goods or services can ever be awarded to those gifting money. ever.
5) If donations are accepted, the server staff had BETTER be prepared to be financially investigated yearly or more to prove positive that any donations go strictly for server expenses. This can be tricky to prove in terms of hardware purchases and who owns them as new property.

(continued)
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>>182008820
that was rebirth, people actually paid it too
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>>182008791
>40K/year

and how is that a small sum?
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Omg i just got to level 10 on the felmyst beta and its seriously perfect you guys omg everything works all the rp events wow this is amazing the epic journey is so amazing am I in 2007 lol?
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>>182008856
It's hilarious how many faggots like alexcucksual donated to the slavs thinking they actually needed the money. Same kind of people who buy donor gear on warmane I suppose.

>>182008919
Elysium did the exact same only it was a slight less obvious threat.
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>>182008905
P1999 is actually considered a legit fan server now since daybreak struck a deal with them.
If only Blizzard was so kind.
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>>182008905
>The players have to play the game using legally obtained copies of the client.
>literally the first thing when you open gummy's website is a link to download the game

BRAVO, GUMMY
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>>182008953
>40k/year is a lot to europoors

No wonder they hate gummy for hosting in america. I'm convinced that this is where 90% of the warmane kikes shilling is stemming from. They are upset they won't have their ping crutch anymore.
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>>182008905
Wrong p99 is officially licensed. Even if they did all that they're still using blizzard characters, lore, and other trademarks and IP.
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>>182009062
Downloading the WoW client from anywhere is legal. You can download the entirety of the Legion client for free right now.
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>>182009119
however you look it, unless he his salary is like 200k+ yearly, 40k IS a big sum for a single person to pay, you dumb fuck

im almost sure you' dont make even 40k yearly anyway, you autistic NEET, you have no idea about the value of money
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WTF i never knew this quest had RP! That's it, I thought surly elysium was the pinnacle of private server quality once nostalrius shut down but boy was I wrong!
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>>182008905
(continued)

If a server project does all of the above, it can be run legally within the USA due to consumer protection laws involving media, pertaining to software media, and consumer ownership. Regardless of what is on a Terms of Use contract, in the USA a maker of media (software in this case) can not legally force a user to use a specific piece of hardware to play or run a piece of software that is owned (violates monopoly laws), nor can the maker of the software dictate terms as to how the owner can use the software within the confines of their own home.
This is important. The previous piece of law opens up doors for people to scratch write their own server code on their own and run it on any piece of hardware they feel like.
The second piece of law opens the doors for users within their own home to do whatever the hell they want with their purchased client of the software, as long as no money changes hands.

All of that said, this project will still fail. Gummy will have incredible amounts of pressure put onto him from Blizz's legal staff the moment this game has Twitch streamers. Pressure will be applied to whatever Internet host he is using for the server (If it's in the USA, Canada, France, or other similar Blizzard legal time friendly soil) to cancel the contract for hosting the server traffic.
He will be financially investigated. It will become a nightmare.

I see him doing this solely to create a finished product that garners up a player base, he quits because of pressure from Blizzard, and he sells off the core and account database to a Euro based project as a 'ready made profit machine' and uses his work on the code as a job resume.

It's already happened before, and it will happen again.
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>>182009347
what
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>>182009314
Gummy does make 200k+ yearly I'm pretty sure. Considering he works in coding and has made constant remarks at business trips I'm certain he's probably making quite a bit of money from his work.

But you're just a warmane shill so you'll find someway to dismiss that as well I'm sure. Keep pushing your narrative kike, and remember, the day of the rope is coming.
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>>182008905
>>182009427
Gummy shills are actually this retarded
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holy fuck the warmanefags are on turbo shit posting mode right now lmfao
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>>182009517
>But you're just a warmane shill
played on warmane back when it was still molten for literally a week, saw how fucking terrible it was, and literally never again bother with that dogshit server

good job chasing boogeymans tho
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>>182009314
>>182009517
you guys are retarded its like $200/m for a machine 10x as powerful as the ones blizzard used in 2004
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no one wants to play on your bot server warmemers
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>>182009643
>gummy thread
>gummy shills

That's not how it works. If you're not here for Gummy's than you're off-topic shilling. That's bannable.
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>say anything bad about gummy youre a warmane shill
>elyg doesn't even know gummy tripfagged in /wpsg/ and probably still shills here anonymously
Nu/vg/ was a mistake, fuck nostalrius
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>he's still trying to justify having to pay $10 to play on an unscripted server filled with slavs and huehues

i'm so sorry for that level of delusion warmane friends, we wish you the best
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Wow i just did shattered halls on felmyst and I broke down in tears afterward, the RP dialog was so amazingly beautiful
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>>182009427
>has Twitch streamers
legacy wow streaming is banned on twitch, and since a few weeks, banned on youtube too

that being said, i still dont see how can such a potenitally big server stay under the radar

which reminds me of another topic

how the fuck are those fuckers on warmane doing it?
they are objectively the biggest private server EVER and they are going for probably 8-9 years(i remember it existing while wotlk was the retail version)
How come Blizz havent flex on them yet
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>>182009786
>new IP

every time
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>>182009141
I'm not wrong. P1999 was being run as a legal project by the staff before Daybreak had their classic 'sit down' meeting with Rogean and Nilbog. When the meeting happened, the issue of Daybreak wanting to open their own Time Progression server came up and a problem for them being P1999 nearing the launch of Velious.

A deal was struck in that Daybreak was VERY curious as to the amount of Real Money Transactions that were going on, Nilbog and Rogean's legal responsibilities of trying to curb it, and what money had been made illegally by previous staff members. More than three of these were a part of the RMT and threatened to sink the ship.

The deal made was that no new P1999 servers could ever be opened, ever, by the staff, as long as Daybreak continued to turn a profit from new Progression servers. This is what killed the P1999 PvP Teams server that was announced just weeks before Velious was to be launched. The other part of the deal was that Velious launch by P1999 was to be delayed so that Daybreak's progression server opening wouldn't be stabbed in the back.

Gummy's project is brand new without the dark cloud of Real Money Transaction and corrupt staff members being a part of the start of its run. So he could dodge that bullet for a while. Maybe.
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R8 muh binds
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>>182010152
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Wow...just wow after nearly a decade of missing tbc i finally feel....whole. i want to thank gummy52 for this once in a lifetime opportunity, even if it got shut down today I can honestly say I am finally at peace....
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>>182010030
I'm calling bullshit on this. People stream from Kronos and Elysium / Anathema weekly, and are streaming as we speak. Blizzard might not care about it right now, or take an active hand to do something, but a hugely successful BC server launch would change that immediately.
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>>182010010
i just did heroic ramparts, it was scritped perfectly and it was pretty tough, but we managed to do it with just 1 wipe.
anyway, there was only this weird bug, for some reason after we killed the last boss and opened the chest for the loot, the loot roll bar disappeared really fast and people couldnt need/greed for what they wanted
never seen it happen so far in other dungeons
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>>182010152
i forgot paladins had so many auras
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daily reminder that european servers are shut down more often than american servers
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>>182010070
>daybreak is the reason we dont have a PvP teams server
What the HECK
DELET THIS
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>>182010152
jesus christ
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>>182010203
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>>182010070
That's completely irrelevant to blizzards/Activision they will continue to shut down illegal servers whenever possible
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>>182010152
Looks pretty normal to me.
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>>182010240
objectively wrong

holy shit, how i hate you newfags that came here with baby's first private server nostalrius

you know shit about the private server scene
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>>182010280
I can reach all the keys, not sure whats wrong with it. This will be my first time paladin tanking so if its amateurish thats why.
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>>182009643
Hey fag. I'm not shilling for his server. I'm the asshat claiming that he knows what he's doing.
All he has to do is open the server up, demonstrate that it's quality, and keep it running for 90 days. At that point he could give a fuck-all about what Blizzard thinks and shut it down himself.
In 90 days if he grabs 5-9k people who level and gear like frantic faggots because 1-55 content is non existent, and the plug is pulled, he can then sell off the core and database to a Slav project who then turns around and says
"All hope is not lost! we're opening up, and continuing the pride of the project and offer transfers of the hard work in your characters!"

It's a slick fucking deal.
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>>182010232
Shut the fuck up warmane shill kike, there are no bugs on gummy
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>>182010152
I play using a trackpad with a broken left-mouse button.
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>>182010513
what's the point of blacking everything out?
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>>182010240
>>182010473
Ironically you fell for newfag bait hard
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>>182010502
Shut the fuck up, I said shut the fuck up.
Why can't you just admit that you're chasing a hopeless server - a server that will shut down inevitably in a month or two. Why is it so hard to join the good side of private WoW servers like Warmane or Elysium?
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>>182010513
>macro button called "Macro"
jesus christ
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>>182010359
It was relevant to the dim-wit claiming I was wrong about my info regarding P1999. I know plenty about that RMT infested shithole and the dicks Rogean nad Nilbog gobbled to keep it running.

As for Blizz / Activision finding grounds to shut down servers - that is hugely depending on two things. Players and the server staff don't have money changing hands, and the Real Money Transactions the chink websites set up are actively squashed by Gummy. He has a very real legal responsibility to combat that angle of money making from the chinks if he's running this mess on USA soil.

As I stated, Gummy won't run this thing for long.
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>>182010513
Whats the number four spell? Also I need to set up my macros, dammit.
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>>182010696
>fake queue
>fake pop
>gear shop
>"good side"
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>>182010724
tell me about sirken, why does he wear the mask?
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>>182010758
Holy Shock, the true man's healing ability.
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Has mocky advanced into trying to splinter servers now or something? Or are we being raided by leddit warmane players?
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>>182010724
They have plenty of grounds to shut the server down because they are running an unauthorized version of blizzard's game, using blizzard's ip, lore, characters, and story.
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>>182010486
>because 1-55 content is non existent
what did he mean by this?
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>>182011043
not even reddit is stupid enough to play warmane
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>>182011043
Gummy is reddits server, they hate warmane
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>>182007448
I feel like this is something from awhile back he said just as an aside that people have taken a little out of context. He's never said he doesn't want to fix any pvp bugs, also never said he disliked pvp.
It IS probably true that he prioritizes pvp fixes under pve fixes but remember that he is autistic and anything broken period is going to buttravage him - that's my own reading on it however and I could be wrong.
Any "pvp will suck on gummy" stuff always seems to be from warmane people, for whatever that is worth.
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i want warmane to leave
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>>182010982
Cool, hows paladin healing in TBC? I'm sure I'll get suckered into it rather than tank or dps.
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>>182011519
if you want to play boring PvE minigames and 1x 1-60 unscripted Vanilla leveling go gummies.
If you're a PvP master and want to get to the real game as fast as possible play Warmane, also all PvP script and quest working 100% wwu
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Omg level 11 now on gummy and this is mind blowing quality guys.
Ive never seen a server so complete, everything just works so well.
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>>182008953
it isn't, but for a single man who's 5-10 years into the software industry they could easily write that off as entertainment
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doest grizzly autists browse /vg/, dont they
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>>182011683
They'll get bored eventually.
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>>182011845
I know, this guy asked if a quest was broken in general and i about screamed at him that there were NO bugs, and even if there were it's still a beta
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>>182011741
idk but I remember shadow priests being mana batteries
not sure if ret pallies had it in BC or if it came in WOTLK
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Why does Mocky do it?
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>>182011519
Go to bed gummy you already blew your cover with that picture
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>>182011969
Not hard to get into grizzly. I was in their guild for a while. I bet a few other people here were as well.
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>>182011226
>implying
Gummy raided with our guild on Scriptcraft several times, he's just not a memelord and he makes announcements on reddit for visibility and so he doesn't have to constantly repeat himself
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>>182010581
I think we all know why
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>>182012135
Psychosis
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why should I level on gummies ALL OVER AGAIN when I could just keep playing Warmane, I'm not even into gay PvE lol
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>>182012343
it's going to be interested to see your chain of deleted posts once the janitor shows up
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>>182012343
i really hate MoH shitposters
please stay on /elyg/
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>>182012343
You paid to skip their bot queue didn't you? Now you seek to justify the money you spent.
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Seriously gummy is a better coder than BLIZZARD! I mean it's like gummy said "don't worry guys, I'll take it from here".

That's not blizzlike, it's gummylike
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>he actually paid to play on warmane

damn..
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>>182012476
the core should be named gummycummy
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>>182012383
>m-m-mods this guy is talking about the WRONG SERVER
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>>182010724
I don't think gummy will shut down but not for any reasons involving donations/money/etc. Blizzard does not need a reason to get something shut down and they'll likely send a C&D to the host as they are basically forced to - if anything happens past that is up for debate.
I don't think they want to open up the "legacy question" can of worms after the nost thing, at least not right now when Legion has lost so many subs. It doesn't mean it can't/won't happen but would be terrible timing and generate a lot of poor PR.

But the main thing I'm saying is that RMT stuff really has nothing to do with it. Certainly not allowing RMT helps a little but legally it means nothing. Even donations that are "purely donations with nothing granted" are viewed as profit in a court anyhow - in the unlikely event it ever came to that. In which case anyone would be fucked because the legal cost is just too prohibitive anyhow, even if an armchair lawyer argued about potential "grey areas" (which even if there were, it's 100% irrelevant).
If blizz wanted to shut a server down, RMT does not factor into it legally.
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>join battleground on Gummy
>Horde is nothing but casters and hunters that zerg rush
>start farming honor off of them
>they create alts to whine and complain about how the Alliance MUST be using premades since Horde racials are SO MUCH BETTER for PvP
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>>182012716
>playing WoW for its PvP
why
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>fight two mobs as a prot pally
>at half mana
???
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>>182012776
autism
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>>182012205
thats not what i asked.
why the fuck would i want to join those fucking autists?

im wondering if they browse here so i can shit on them when i BTFO those PvE baddies in arenas and BGs
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what's the addon that shows the tooltip where your mouse cursor is
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>>182012850
Grizzly recruits mostly on wowservers and there's a lot of overlap between vg and reddit. so yes
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>>182013008
TipTac
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>>182012776
>wasting time getting attuned for something that hopefully gets wiped in the next few day
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>>182013008
TipTac
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>>182013028
ive seen them how they type
literally 90% of them sound like your average underage 4channer
im sure they browse here
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Anyone got a list of the bop stuff from professions?
Is tailoring and enchanted/a gathering prof best for priest pve
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>>182013134
>>182013143
thank you my friends
i hope you have a nice day
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>>182013218
you owe me one(1) handjob
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>>182013375
okay... i'll get the lotion...
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>>182013201
primal mooncloth set is pretty great. I'd recommend going tailor/herb because you need a bunch of primal life for it and going tailor/enchant is just asking to be permanently in the poorhouse
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>tfw wanna play mage
>tfw play mainly pvp so ill go frost
>tfw enjoy the occasional ride and dungeons now and then but cant be arsed to respec 239423423942 times a week
>tfw no one wants to raid with a frost mage

fuck, im gonna miss the dual spec from wotlk so much
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>>182013484
Yes I remember and the shadow one is great for off spec.
Can you make money crafting and DE'ing greens for dust?
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>>182013136
pvp gear ruined pvp t b h
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>>182013856
no, only resilience

i dont see why i should spend all my time with the PvE nerds doing shitty raids while i can just do fun PvP and get my itemization from there
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>>182013824
>Can you make money crafting and DE'ing greens for dust?
I don't see why not. The issue tho is that you are going to have to end up de'ing all sorts of stuff to level enchanting in the first place on a new server. You are going to wind up getting a mount late, getting an epic mount late and finally getting a flying mount late. I mean, you can do it, more power to you if you establish yourself as an enchanter you can make a bunch of money, but it will definitely be down the road.
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Is skyguard/ogri'la going to be in on launch?
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>>182014543
gummy is retard, he is putting literally everything on launch
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Any other oceanic players here?
What's the chances of a guild that raids in our tz?
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>>182014585
>implying Quel'Danas
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>>182014981
I'm not in that timezone, but this was on the first page of the recruitment forum:
>https://www.felmyst.com/forums/index.php?/topic/429-h-dropbears-oceanicoff-peak-euus-hours-guild/

I bet there are more and if not, there will be.
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why haven't you joined the ultimate guild yet
>https://www.felmyst.com/forums/index.php?/topic/807-a-hardcore-american-raiding-guild/
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>>182015830
>joining a """"hardcore"""" anything
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>>182015830
> Sacrifice personal gain for the glory of the guild
>Don't be a loot whore
Translation: Don't expect to get gear before the officer clique does.
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>>182015830
>hardcore
>playing Alliance in TBC

fuck these guys are retarded
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>>182016086
Hope this is bait.
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>>182016086
>these guys are retarded
Yes. not necessarily for going alliance tho, just in general.
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>>182016376
Anything but, GL getting glad on Alliance
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>Alliance gets one flag cap
>Horde quits

>Horde gets two flag caps and has the third flag no contest
>honor farms everyone

STRENGTH AND HONOR lmao right Hordebabbies??1 :DD
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>>182016534
>glad
>raiding guild

Lol
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>>182016753
>hardcore without all the bis racials

lol
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>>182016679
shut the fuck up allycuck, this is a beta test
we're not even trying
see you on the release
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>>182016679
deal with it nerd
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>>182016796
I hope you don't think horde has BIS pve racials anon.
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>>182016875
>he doesn't know

lol
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>>182016824
>>182016863
>be Hordecuck
>can't play on Gummy because of forced server ratio cap
>have to roll on Allybulls just to enter Azeroth
"b-but ill just go play on warmane1!"

Still proving your a cuck now aren't you not? ;)))
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>>182016972
shut up kid
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>>182016972
is there really a server ratio?
i only want to play draenei for roleplay
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>>182017081
There has been serious discussion on the Felmyst forums about what to do with the inevitable faction imbalance, thanks to Horde having the best racials outside of Diplomacy and +1% hit. There are a minority who say it's a non-issue, but GMs have stated that they know it's a problem and are open to solutions. The most basic one is to lockout the Horde as a playable faction to give the Allies a head-start. The most popular one is to maintain a 1:1.25 ratio and prevent Horde characters from entering the game if too many enter at once to prevent imbalance. Some are even calling for the queue to be made based on level brackets. For example, if there are about fifty Allies between 50-59 playing, then there can only be seventy-five Hordies between 50-59 playing.

So far, nothing has been confirmed, only speculated.
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>>182017346
what the fuck does faction balance matter
this isn't an RvR game
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>>182016913
Horde
>blood fury for hunters
>implying melee in tbc lol
>redundant HP for tanks
>0.01 less casting speed for casters

Alliance
>5% int for locks
>1% spell hit for every caster
>1% phys hit for every physical dmg dealer
>dodge for tanks
>spirit for healers
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>>182017504
>ignoring the best horde racials

desperate lol
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>>182017586
Which ones might that be for PvE?
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>>182017504
allycuck
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>>182017504
>5% HP is redundant
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What is the best race for shockadin?
Thank you.
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>>182013134
>>182013143
>check the various addon sites
>try a couple of 2.4.0 versions since i cant find ones specifically meant for 2.4.3
>the configuration menu is bugged to shit
>try cowtip, an addon specifically made for 2.4.3
>game microhitches every 4s with it enabled
ill suck your dick if you upload your TipTac
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>>182017623
>5% is redundant
>SoB

lol
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>>182017706
Human > Blood Elf > dorf
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>>182017741
I'm using TinyTip if that helps.
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>>182016534
played Nelf through all the TBC and was glad in literally every season

not my problem ur a baddie who cries about >muh racials
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>>182017913
lol sure you were bud
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>>182017741
Download one of the addon packs on the forums. There is probably one with TipTac somewhere.
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>>182017504
>5% int for locks
Wow a free major mana potion once per fight and .1% crit!
>>
https://streamable.com/ybhrl

IT'S NOT EVEN FUNNY GUYS
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>>182018159
I agree, please stop posting this shit.
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>>182018159
DELET THIS
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>>182018159
fucking deletet his RIGHT NOWWW
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>>182018159
>fade off CD

alex...
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>>182018159
this guy has issues
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>>182018380
NO HE DOESN'T
/ourguy/ patiently ran a group full of retards and simply reached his limit
they should be thankful that he even considered running the group with him and didn't leave after dying
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>>182018351
>died from taking aggro
>"FADE WOULDN'T HAVE DONE ANYTHING"

Is this guy a retard?
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Mocky here. I've killed all non-nihilum/moh guilds on Kronos and Elysium.

Don't think I won't do the same here.
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>>182018481
He is
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>>182018531
No one is going to let you into their guild Mocky, lets be honest.
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>>182018694
He kills them by making splinter guilds and spamming the thread with shit-posts for 7 hours straight
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Can't believe <literally whos> died so easily kek
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>>182018909
what happened, the server didn't even relase
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>>182018984
Alex is play Gummy's temporary funserver and is getting his shit kicked in because mobs are actually doing what they're scripted to do, instead of being healthsponges that anyone can meatfist their keyboard to get past. It all keeps tumbling down...
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>>182018159
do you have more of these
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>>182018909
it has to be a guild before it can die though
apparently they were just "testing the waters" with their discord channel and decided not to make a guild
it's a shame, I wanted to enjoy the inevitable guild drama between the alliance guilds
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>>182018984
the trannies entered the <literal whos> discord and started falseflagging
the autist that wanted to make the guild coulnt handle their cancer, got butthurt and left
good think imo, its better now than later, if he cant handle those autistic fucks now and just ban them away, he prolly wouldve been a dogshit guild leader anyway
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>>182019323
lol wtf is wrong with trannies
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>>182019374
they're mentally ill and emotionally unstable]
when a man takes large doses of estrogen it severely affects the state of his mind
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>rolling human pally on gummys
>will level as ret and tank at 70 for prot and ret gear
>gonna craft lionhearts executioner like i never got to back in the day
>get that lollypop mace from Gruuls thats perfect for Ret

Fuck i havent been this excited for a video game in a long time
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>>182019575
Anon... Make sure to look at what Crystalforge (Tier 5) armor looks like BEFORE you get too attached to paladin.
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so is it out now or what
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>>182019575
>human
>ret
Better leave that to BloodBulls.
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>>182019939
Yes the beta is out.
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>>182019939
Open beta testing raiding scripts and attunements for bugs. Playing Gummy will enable you to get to 70 instantly with all your spells learned and a free set of armor and weapons, but hunters still have to tame and train pets while warlocks need to farm soul shards and teach their pets their own spells.
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Can someone redpill me on shockadins?
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>>182020012
>>182020041
so... no
when is actual release expected to be if there is no release date?
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>>182019889
gays can be cool sometimes
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*wakes up*
*gasps for air*
i...is gummy finally out...
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>>182020114
*holds up spork*
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>>182020104
after crestfall
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>>182020069
http://db.excalibur-wow.com/?talent#sVxhMgzGestZVf0x

>>182020104
No date announced, because the GMs don't want guilds like G R I Z Z L Y to plan to take time off of work and get an unfair advantage over regular players.
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>>182020280
>gummy might release in an hour or two, or even RIGHT NOW as I submit this post
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>>182020280
>don't want normies to have an advantage but they're fine with neets having one
based gum
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>>182020280
advantage? what advantage?
there is no inherit advantage given to players advancing in a PVE raiding game
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>>182020280
No 40/0/21? Theres a buynch of different shockadin builds, do you have experience with them?
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>>182019889
I like the look of it. Helm kinda reminds me of robocop and the stats are sick
>>182019971
A couple of racials wont stop me from cleansing the horde in the name of the light
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>>182020528
It's not just for PvE. If a guild has a three-day headstart on regular people with PvP purposes, then they will dominate WPvP, BGs, and Arenas by virtue of PvP gear having resilience, which can only be earned by doing PvP content, and honor farming is easier at higher levels, and higher levels are easier to get when you poopsock it by being a NEET and/or fucking over your fellow minimum-wage coworkers by taking a week off. Not to mention that BC's attunements are literally bullshit, and a guild with a headstart can clear world firsts better.

>>182020632
I don't, but a shockadin works better as a healer that can deal some damage in PvP. Leave Sanctity Aura for a Retnoob and Concentration for a Holydin. A shockadin is designed to be a healer who suddenly drops a Divine Illumination / Avenging Wrath / Tricket Holy Shock crit bomb after loading them up with Crusader Judge.
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>>182019889
a lot of classes have a set that looks kinda shit
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What's best racial for priest?
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>>182020830
I see, thats kind of what I had in mind. Can I still heal in dungeons with that spec?
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>>182020962
Technically yes, but paladins shine for being able to switch to a tank position in case the tank dies because you're a shitty healer-- err, the rogue pulls.
http://db.excalibur-wow.com/?talent#sVxuMgzGestVMuh
This is a better PvE healer spec because you can quickly pop into Righteous Fury and start tanking thanks to having high threat from healing. The shockadin spec can still heal, but your heals are going to have such a high crit chance that you'll potentially over-threat and make your tank rage. Whereas a PvE paladin focuses on MP5 and Spirit, a PvP paladin will focus on crit and spellpower to get the most out of their (relatively) weak abilities.
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>>182020873
undead
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>>182021176
And if I don't want to queue and go ally?
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>>182021168
What a weird spec, thanks for the info.
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>>182021339
PORONAI KRISTAI
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>>182021339
>queue
why are you blindly repeating rumors, dont fall for this until its certain, just roll whatever you fell like it

aside for that, human for spirit and dwarf for the dank spells
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>>182020858
Not warlocks.

Who /master class/ here?
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>>182021797
t4 is so beautiful
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>>182021797
me
t. priest
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>>182021797
Pally lightforge is literally the best looking set in tbc. Tirion even wears it its that good!

Warrior t4 and t5 are acceptable too
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>>182022350
I think you mean Lightbringer friend.
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>>182022513
Yeah, that's what I meant. Still, the point still stands, paladins have the best armor in the game, both vanilla and tbc.
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>>182022884
>>182022513
Oh shit wrong pic my bad
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are fishing dailies in
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>>182022884

why do i see this star butterfly shit everywhere
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redpill me on valkyri

is he a tranny/ can he actually play the game
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Legion Final Patch:
>Magni Bronzebeard: The titans can sever that connection... but not here. They need ta bring the soul o' Argus ta their place o' power... the Seat o' the Pantheon.
>Illidan Stormrage: Our victories mean nothing. So long as Sargeras has the soul of Argus to fuel his infinite army, Azeroth remains in grave peril.
>Magni Bronzebeard: Their final act will harness the last o' Argus's power, to imprison Sargeras... once and for all.
>Magni Bronzebeard: Heroes, I can signal the titans ta begin. Once they start their ritual... there's no turnin' back!
>Magni Bronzebeard: The tortured soul of Argus has been put ta rest.
>Illidan Stormrage: It matters not. We have lost. Look to the skies!
>Prophet Velen: Sargeras will soon undo all we have fought for.
>Voice of Amanthul: No.
>Voice of Amanthul: We will use the last glimmer of Argus's power to bind him here. The Seat of the Pantheon shall become Sargeras's prison... and ours as well.
>Prophet Velen: You would condemn yourselves to stop him?
>Illidan Stormrage: Our world must survive... no matter the cost!
>Voice of Amanthul: A sacrifice must be made.
>Voice of Amanthul: Return home, children of Azeroth. Protect the final titan.
>High Exarch Turalyon: Prophet... what happened out there?
>Prophet Velen: Illidan serves as the Dark Titan's jailer. His sacrifice has ended the Legion. At long last, the Burning Crusade... is over.


I'm glad we have captured moments in time to prevent things from truly ending.
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WHICH FUCKING FACTION WILL HAVE THE LEAST TRANNIES?
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>>182025901
Vanilla to wrath, sub numbers sky rocket
>you see that faggot you remember from warcraft? you get to level up, enter a dungeon with a shit ton of your friends, and fucking murder him and steal his shit

Cata to Legion, sub numbers plummet
>watch some other guy kill the boss for you then watch a cutscene where the guy you previously murdered and was magically brought back to life as fanservice takes credit for the fact you sat there grinding m+ and all 4 raid difficulties for 12 hours a day every single day lol
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>>182026086
Mocky, please stop this.
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>>182026257
Doesnt tirion deal the final blow to arthas? Unless im mistaken
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>>182026382
I don't remember. Wrath was the beginning of that hole epic cutscene "your character doesn't matter lol now watch thrall cuck you and do important shit" cancer.
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>>182026257
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlVSJ0AvZe0
>see that dwarf hiking through Dun Morogh to get to Ironforge with his pet bear? YOU CAN DO THAT!
>see that night elf who found rare loot in the woods, hears conflict in the distance, and shapeshifts to go after it? YOU CAN DO THAT!
>see that undead summoning an Infernal? YOU CAN DO THAT!
>see that tauren looking at the beauty of Mulgore? YOU CAN DO THAT!
>see that orc challenging you to a duel outside of Orgrimmar? YOU CAN DO THAT!
>see that human throwing fireballs on a rooftop? YOU CAN DO THAT!
>see these races fighting each other? YOU CAN DO THAT!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBHL_-biMrQ
>HOLY FUCK THE DARK PORTAL OPENED WE'VE NEVER ACTUALLY HAD CONTENT DEALING WITH WHERE THE ORCS CAME FROM BEFORE THIS IS SO FUCKING HYPE
>HOLY FUCK IT'S ILLIDAN HE'S BACK
>"You are not prepared?" YOU'RE FUCKING RIGHT YOU'RE NOT OUTLAND GREENS MAKE YOUR BLUES LOOK LIKE SHIT!
>see that draenei putting a blessing on himsef? YOU CAN DO THAT!
>see that blood elf mana tapping a wyrm? THAT'S LITERALLY PART OF YOUR STARTING QUESTS!
>see that orc holding that one epic weapon? YOU EARNED THAT, REMEMBER?
>see that troll running around in Ghostlands? YOU CAN DO THAT!
>did you just see Nagrand? YOU CAN EXPLORE THAT!
>see that undead in full gear? YOU EARNED THAT TOO!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCr7y4SLhck
>wow, the detail is really good
>oh, okay, still looking at Arthas
>... still Arthas...
>where are the players?
>where are the heroes that we've had for two expansions?
>sure that dragon looks cool, but... how are we involved in this?
>what about the new death knight class?
>... we ARE going to kill the Ligh King, right?
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>tfw you watch tbc pvp videos

brings me back to the good old days when I liked shitty metal music. Blasting that shit playing destro in bgs was so much fun
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>>182026745
Yeah I remember noticing that as well a few years ago. Vanilla/TBC features players in their trailers for the majority of them. Every other expansion just focuses on the developers story and characters.

These people don't even understand what an MMORPG is.
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>>182026382
>>182026467
When you get the Lich King's health low enough, he instantly kills everyone, starts a sequence to bring back all the heroes as death knight champions, then Tirion invokes a final miracle to release himself from ice, attacks Arthas once with Ashbringer and shatters Frostmourne, releasing the spirits of everyone who ever was eaten by it, including King Terenas, you uses a resurrection spell to bring everyone back to life so they can kill the Lich King while angry souls bind him in place. Please note that this is not a TRUE resurrection, otherwise the undead and death knight players would be restored to living status, and that would break the game.
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>>182026763
>not watching Vanilla PvP videos for even OLDER kidmetal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOXrGmulbMk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SRiyXCZuws
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sj21TAmQ-M
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>>182023839
please respond
>>
MOCKYYY <3333
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>looking over how to get PvP gear in BC
>first have to farm reputation to get entry-level PvP gear
>then have to do PvE content to get tokens to get gladiator gear
Who the fuck thinks that this is acceptable?
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>>182027551
Kill yourself.
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>>182028469
>have to play the game to get items

fuck this I'm going to back to legion this shit is a fucking scam
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>>182028660
>complete group-content to do solo-content
>good game design
pick one
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>>182028469
Glad gear is pretty strong, especially the weapons. They can't just give them to you for each BG win like on retail.
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>>182028739
>oh no I have to do multiplayer things in a massively multiplayer online game
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>>182028739
>muh solo content
>MMO

lol
>>
are mages really that bad in tbc
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>>182028739
>MMO
>Solo content
Que?

Literally the only solo content you have is doing quests while levelling or grinding mobs.
All the interesting shit is obviously group-based.
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>>182029662
no
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>>182029662
There are three class ranks or Arena content in Burning Crusade:
S - Druid
D - Rogue
E - Everything else
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>tfw bullying gnomes
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>>182029662
They are fine. Will there be 5 raid spots dedicated to mages? Of course not. But if you're not a hardcore player than there will be plenty of space for a mage in any raid for the most part. Plus people love portals and food.
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>>182029874
tfw no bara orc master to enslave and bully me
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can anyone find a working dotimer for 2.4.3
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>>182029985
debuff filter?
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>>182029774
rogues and resto druids were kings, but shaodw priest, warlocks and resto shamans were top tier too

frost mages/enh shamans werent rare either iirc
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>>182030041
yeah that'll work perfectly; thanks
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>>182030201
Mages became the new warlocks of the Alliance thanks to belf pallies having not only BoF but also Torrent to permanently fuck their shit up. The best they could hope for was PoM/Pyro, and after shooting the wad they couldn't do anything for the rest of the fight.

Similarly, Enhancement shamans were completely eclipsed by Elementals, thanks to the better range, better talents, and better toolbox offered. There was no point in swinging melee with a specialization dependent on dual-wielding when you could just Lightning nuke with Shocks thrown in.
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>>182030234
y-you too
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>>182030325
im not sure in witch season, might be one of the earlier ones, but i do remember arenas at one point being flooded with enh shamies with fucking INSANE windfury procs that literally hit you for 80% of your hp

i think it was some fucked up synergy with that one weapon enchant(mongoose?not sure if that was the one)and it made them monster RNG burts machines
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>>182030482
*which season

A witch is like a tranny blood elf warlock.
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when is gummy?
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>>182030609
soon friend
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>>182030609
he demands more cummy before opening the server
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>>182030609
after corecraft
>>
cum4gummy
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>>182030671
https://streamable.com/dp9hf
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<Cummies for Gummy>
>>
wish i was a little bit taller
wish i was a baller
>>
dunno what class to play :(
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>>182026745
Yes, I too remember the BC cinematic narrated by and featuring Illidan that then led to an expansion where Illidan sat on the Black Temple roof staring at a skull the entire time until you showed up and killed him.
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>>182031476
What do you like to do anon?
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>>182031536
I would like to be a caster but leveling up is a cunt due to mana issues

Stealth would be nice for avoiding ganks but I feel like Rogue will be useless.
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>>182031581
Play druid.
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>>182031623
but with no dual spec aren't I just going to be forced to play as a tree?

I already did all that in Retail.
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>>182031581
Rogues are fine but you wont really be avoiding any ganks with stealth because most of the time people gank you when you're fighting something.

Warlock is the most mana efficient caster dps and is also top dps for much of the expansion. You also have 3 viable specs for PvE. Although affliction does the most damage in the lower tiers. Your voidwalker helps a lot while leveling and you're very scary to a lot of classes so they will avoid fighting you.
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>>182031536
ERP
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>>182031704
In Burning Crusade you are able to comfortably play as Balance and DPS / tank with Feral, not just heal. Min / maxing is just not worth worrying about because tiered gear no longer focuses exclusively on one single specialization. Not only that, PvP gear also lets you play all three specs, instead of just one. If you want to be a Boomkin, you can do dungeons and 10-mans as a Boomkin, get your tokens, and move on to PvP no problem, while still having access to your stealth ability.
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>>182031729
>Warlock is the most mana efficient caster dps
I phrased that pretty poorly. I meant warlocks have the least amount of mana problems while leveling.
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>Gummyfags are so desperate for attention that they have to try and trick people into visiting their thread by mimicking /Elyg/
>They then spend nearly 24 hours samefagging to keep it from 404ing after everyone figures out what happened and they go back to actual /Elyg/
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What addon do you rogue bros use for combat points?
The points that are on my unit frames don't really stand out enough.
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>>182032067
Do you have a single fact to back that up?
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>>182032067
gummy isn't out and it has 20 less posters than elyg tho
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>>182029774
>no lock
ok bye
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>>182032583
>Will of the Forsaken's (You)
gg no re ;^)
>>
>>182032067
>elyg

who?
>>
>>182032702
As a warlock, improved howl of terror to trigger WotF followed by a deathcoil usually means a deader undead.
>>
>>182033256
>improved howl of terror to trigger WotF followed by a deathcoil
You mean you can survive a rogue assraping you during those precious seconds of Fear immunity once they pop WotF?
>>
>>182033256
As a Warlock, improved howl of terror means you have no soul link which in turn means you get fucking bent.
>>
i need... gummycraft... now...
>>
>>182033863
mail gummy your cummies
>>
>>182033890
i already did...
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>>182034012
he isn't satisfied yet, keep doing it
>>
>>182033352
>soul link
>hardiness
>resilience
>dying to rogues
Did you play tbc?
>>
>>182035875
>Soul Link
>Improved Howl of Terror
Did you?
>>
>>182035896
I'm not the retard that suggested that.
>>
How do you set the game to save screenshots as png?
>>
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>all these people voting Alliance

I want to play as a Belf you fucks
>>
what level should i start dual wielding as fury? once i get some hit ?
>>
>>182036296
Then play belf, there will be people on both sides dumbo
>>
>>182036296
no one cares tranny
>>
Which class the most fun gimmicks?
>>
>>182036559
shaman
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>>182036482
I'm not a tranny
>>
>>182036815
let me guess, you're a real girl right?
>>
What's the definitive/most comprehensive CC watch/timer addon for TBC
>>
>>182036856
No.

I just like the Belf aesthetics.
>>
>>182036950
that's how it starts

first you roll a blood elf
then you start erping

a few weeks down the track and you'll be running so much estrogen and craving more cock you can handle
>>
So I don't get it is our new guild rolling Horde or Alliance?
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/elyg/
>398 replies
>109 posters

/felyg/
>679 replies
>61 posters

jesus christ m8s
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>>182038538
There will probably be one on each faction.
>>
>>182038538
Tranny guild is horde. Everyone else is alliance.
>>
>>182038789
>>182038871
Yeah but I want to get server first. Are we going to roll ally and try to get server first?? I want to roll Shaman.
>>
holy christ like 90% of the people in shat are alliance
i thought the alliance majority shit was just a meme
>>
>>182038951
lol
>>
>>182038951
>/vg/ guilds
>server first
you will be lucky to clear karazhan
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>>182039124

Yeah, so let's not get excited for ANYTHING. Let's just feel SOOOOO intellectually superior by realizing that we're unlikely to accomplish anything significant or fun.

Gosh you are so clever and insightful for pointing it out, anon. Just imagine what this thread would be like without INTELLIGENT people like you to keep us fools grounded!
>>
>>182039550
This. Fuck that guy we should be reaching for the top.
>>
>>182039550
you're welcome anon
>>
>>182038568
>elyg is live
>felyg is not
Soon
>>
>>182039550
>want to push for server firsts
>decide to join a bunch of random shitposters that won't even hit max level by the time other guilds are actually clearing content
>when they finally catch up they bench you because you aren't part of the clique
>cry about it on 4chan despite being warned you were a retard
>>
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GUMMY WHEN

WHEN

FUCKING
WHEN
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>
>>182039901
Soonâ„¢
>>
>>182039962
but i want to play NOOOOOWWW
NOW NOW NOW NOOWWWWW
I WANT TO PLAY NOOOOOOWWWWWWWWW
>>
>>182040037
Why? So you can roleplay as a dumb belf tranny?
>>
>>182040202
I want to play as a motherly cow warrior and protect all friends in my group or raid :3c
>>
Felmyst will go live next weekend.
>>
>>182041950
KILL
YOUR
SELF
>>
>>182042935
Rude
>>
[quote]@182042935[/quote]
took the words right out of my mouth
>>
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>>182042823
Please provide evidence of this statement.
>>
>>182043212
:thinking:
>>
>i pvp on gummy because I'm too scared to play against top teams on warmane
Lmao pathetic
>>
@182043813

(You)
>>
>heh time to have some fun on the superior warmane...
>*cracks knuckles*
>*opens dad's wallet*
>*takes his debit card*
>heh... heh heh heh....
>>
>I play on warmane because I'm a retarded slav
rofl disgusting
>>
Only newfags don't play warmane, if you unironically want to play gummy youre from reddit
>>
>>182044234
ook merci pour la contribution
>>
>Elysium
>have all preraid bis
>have 1k+ gold
>have consumables stacked for BWL
>raid is only 1.5h once a week
>cant join premade pvp cause r10+ is required and I cba to farm rank in pugs
The fuck am I supposed to do for six and a half days in this fucking game?
This is why legacy is never happening. Vanilla has no content what so ever.
>>
>>182045013
WoW has always been a casual MMO
It has plenty of content if you're not a neet that plays it 10 hours a day
most people back then didn't even reach max level or even know what raiding was
>>
>1x blizzlike TBC server
Finally
For the first time in 7 years I may play on a private server again. What quality in terms of dungeons/raids and overall bugs do you expect?
>>
>>182045792
Dungeons are top notch (so good that it's hard to pug them), don't know about raids
>>
>>182045792
1-60 5man content is poorly scripted. lvl60 raids are non existant.
TBC content is very well scripted.
>>
>>182045792
Dungeons and raids are already the best in terms of pre nerf values and scripting quality.
Pvp and class mechanics will probably lag behind warmane, especially if they go the arena tournament route like they did with the wotlk realm blackrock
>>
>>182046182
>1-60 5man content is poorly scripted
Shame, I dont mind vanilla raids as they are useless but dungeons should be working for leveling reasons at least
By the way, I know some classes had really special hard quests for legedanry weapons in vanilla (such as that priest staff that changes depending on spec I think) Is anything like that in TBC too?
>>
>>182046387
Nope.
TBC legos drop from bosses and dont require any effort on the player side.
>>
Gummy is comfortable with the amount of testing that has been done and feels the server is as ready as its going to get. He will make an announcement soon as to the release date, which will be this coming weekend.

-Felmyst Staff Discord
>>
>>182048083
>gummy releasing on my birthday
Anon...
>>
>>182048083
Screenshot or fake nigger.
>>
What dps classes have the most involved rotations?
Thinking arms warrior or feral druid
>>
>tfw going alliance eleshaman
>literally the best support class/race ever
Dps cucks will beg for my bulltotems
>>
>>182049490
Feral isn't really 'involved'. It's more of a cluster fuck of priorities. You'll be in bear form more than cat in raids and dungeons.

Shadow Priest, Affliction Warlock, Enhancement Shaman are all pretty involved and desired for end game.

Arms Warrior takes a bit of skill to maximize potential but you won't get many spots as 'DPS Warrior LFG'.
>>
>>182049490
>Arms Warrior
Don't
>>
>>182050198
Shut the fuck thats not me you literal fucking retard. I'm going resto you fucking absolute fucking moron.
>>
>>182049490
Feral > Arms > Fury > Rogues > Balance > Enhance > Shadow > Retribution > Elemental > Mage > Warlock = Hunters
>>
>>182050194
Isn't Affliction pretty shit in the later tiers?
>>
Which class/specs were nonviable in TBC?
>>
>>182050791
sub rogue
demo warlock
>>
>>182051024
What were most undersupplied in raids?
>>
>>182050507
Affliction does start to fall off once you get mostly T5 gear (though not sure if its still true with the itemization here) but it's not massive.

It's not unheard of to keep one lock as Affliction through all content for blood pact/malediction.
>>
>>182051158
Why does it matter what was most undersupplied?
Back then it was impossible to find a good tank but people know this now and are planning to create a ton of tanks so you're actually hard pressed to find specific DPS classes/specs or specific kinds of healers.
>>
>>182050270
I don't really give a shit if slots are in demand, I MTed all the way through C'thun and I can do it again, but I always just wanted to swing my god damn ashkandi around and I only ever got to do it in dungeons
>>
>>182051158
Alliance needed shamans, horde needed paladins.
>>
>>181974105
Lol which guild was this? Grizzly?
>>
>>182045013
why aren't you farming AQ and prepping for Naxx, oh wait Elysium has content gating out the ass even worse than retail. unlike based gummy that lets you do Sunwell on day 1
>>
>>182052075
Horde had more than enough Paladins... if any class were to be under supplied on the Horde side it would be Druid.
>>
>>182052165
grizzly uses (((skype))) for interviews
they did last time I played with them anyway
>>
>>182052569
>last time I played with them anyway

hahaHAHAHAHA
>>
>>182052696
at least they clear content, you can't blame me
>>
Did they remove the sub-70 PvP trinkets when TBC hit? On Felmyst only the level 70 version seems to be available.
>>
paladin or druid?
>>
>>182053063
Paladins
>great healers
>okay tanks (the kings of aoe threat though)
>mediocre dps

Druids
>great tanks
>great healers
>mediocre dps
>>
>>182052179
Wait, Sunwell will be open from day 1? Fucking dropped.
>>
>>182046182
>1-60 5man content is poorly scripted.
but that's wrong. I leveled in the gummy beta and 1-60 5man content up until SM/RFD seems undertuned, not poorly scripted. but yeah, no BRD, Scholo Strat DM and no 60 raids
>>
Reminder this should be /felmg/ in all future t b threads
>>
>>182055001
So are locks and pallies just unable to get their epic class mounts?
>>
>>182055325
bought from trainer
>>
>>182055253
but felyg sounds cuter
>>
GUMMY NOW REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>
>>182055375
Wow, so it's a fucking funserver. And here I was getting excited. Back to Total War it is.
>>
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>>182056794
>>
>>182056794
Yeah it's a really big shame we don't have to sit around for hours trying to get a scholo group going just so we can get our epic mounts.
>>
>>182057908
>>182057908
>>182057908

new thread
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>>182056794

Fuck off Merove
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