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Tree of Savior General - /tosg/

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Demon Titties

Previous titties >>181761626
>Upcoming changes
New Klaipeda: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-B_tfIVNl3k
Field bosses rework: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92RrTQUGbk8
Summon buffs: http://tos.nexon.com/testserver/notice/view.aspx?n4ArticleSN=69
Fishing system: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJPB7KbPk60
DPK no more: https://treeofsavior.com/page/news/view.php?n=1032
>A lot of info and details about re-balance stuff
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/ktest-ktos-class-rework-thread-important-info-in-1st-post/354628

>HG 315 Purple Weapons X Practonium Purple Weapons
https://pastebin.com/78mTQn1Y

>Latest "Patch Notes":
https://treeofsavior.com/page/news/?c=3&n=1
https://treeofsavior.com/page/news/view.php?n=1035

>Current events:
https://treeofsavior.com/page/news/?c=33&n=1
https://treeofsavior.com/page/news/view.php?n=1028
>Can I play the game now?
International version available on Steam RIGHT NOW. The Korean and Japanese servers are non-steam (Nexon)

TOS Info: http://pastebin.com/3YcrrJkd
This includes more detailed information, as well as tools, resources, patch notes and official links.

>Addon Manager (includes jTOS and iTOS addons)
https://github.com/JTosAddon/Tree-of-Savior-Addon-Manager/releases

>Database, skill planner and other stuff
DO NOT FOLLOW BUILDS FROM TOSBASE
https://tos.neet.tv/

>Extra Stat Points
http://pastebin.com/6Y3R7aYt

>Hunting Grounds locations and gear spreadsheet (all in RNG cubes now. drop from all)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1fP4G1JjL2pj6wMfpL_3o9pFWYIKpr3QnYgQ-XTfK21k/pubhtml#

>Servers
- iTOS: Klaipeda (NA) Fedimian(EU) Silute(SA) Telsiai(SEA)

>/tosg/ Guilds info:
There is no /tosg/ guild in Varena, if you want one, either wait for someone to make one or roll a Templar.
If Guild is recruiting, please post in the thread.

>Klaipeda
Futureproof (ApplyAFineHorse3)
cute (Merigolds and Majiene)

>Orsha
Kotatsu (Colyo)

>Telsiai
Comfy (neshoi)

>Fedimian
CoffeeHouse (Capyba)

>Silute
Lewd (Nanaumi)
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DICK > asses > thighs > tiddies > armpits > hands > LITERAL SHIT > feet
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>>181930932
only if it's a feminine dick
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Daily reminder that Wugushi is suffering!
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>>181931459
how about voxandra dick ?
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>>181930932
Girls raping cute boys!
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>>181930932
Even feet are better than dicks
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>>181931541
no, he's a gross tranny, not cute nor pure
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hmmmm
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What are some lewd twitter profiles for tos lewd art
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>>181932219
too FAT, lose weight tubby!!
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>>181932271
https://twitter.com/8888maggi8888?lang=en
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>>181932271
SPSRC and arsk
they often retweet other smaller profiles
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How many 290 runs does it take to hit 317? I have a 4x tome leftover, should I just use it and some dungeon reset vouchers since they're pretty cheap?
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Coffee is recruiting
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>>181933595
show capy lewds
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If I make an Astra bow for my Wugushi, will I be the strongest Wugushi?
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>>181934323
I know someone who has a +16 stage 10 astra bow who tried wugu during renewal and said it was trash, poison was only ticking for 20k with that kind of investment
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>>181934323
yes, you might even hit 3k ticks with your poisons instead of 2k like the pleb-wugus
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>Fucking 20 minutes queue for every automatch activity
DED GAYM
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>>181934489
>>181934501
I'll do it! I'll become the strongest Wugu! I don't do Saalus though, so I won't be able to transcend it.
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I was wondering who is the artist for all ToS characters ?

They all obviously fucking fappable as fuck.
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>>181934582
there's barely any point in making an orange if you're not gonna transcend it.
Stage 0 orange weapons trigger me so much.
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>>181934682
It's a crazy lesbodyke, she even signs her name on the loading screens.
>>181932464
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>>181934734
Are you dumb?
Orange still have the best base damage and anvil enhancement values.
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>>181934734
Group content makes me nervous though, I'd rather just farm silver and buy the shards than do Saalus myself. I'd only aim for stage 3-5 though.
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>>181934906
You can solo 2/4 pf saalus maps pretty easily.
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>>181934987
Yeah but I have 8 characters that are high enough to do Saalus, if I did it on one I'd feel like I have to do it on them all and that just makes me want to die instead.
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>>181934734
I have 2 stage0 orange
Farming for a third stage0 orange right now
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Is there a Physical/Magic defense number that I should be aiming for? I've been wearing the same armor since 120 since it has STR on it, but it's starting to get painful taking 1k+ damage from ranged.
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>>181934748

Does she draws porn ?

Item Merchant on Klapedia is hot as fuck
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i have it on my SR subhuman
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>>181935246
>stage 5 on a blue shit
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>>181934837
the difference isn't that big with purple weapons
+11 aufgowle bow has 2059 average patk counting the bonus minimum and maximum atk it has
+11 astra bow has 2231 average patk
which means that astra only has 8% more patk than aufgowle at stage 0
but, let's compare them at stage 5
aufgowle has 3333 patk
astra has 3679 patk
now the difference is 10%, and it keeps increasing at higher stages
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>>181935349
Hm, maybe I should just go for purple instead. Astra is really painful to farm, and the DEX and crit rate is pretty pointless for a Wugu.
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Poorfag SEA here.

Can i enjoy this game (with my friends) for free ?

What are game breaking limitations for being free ?
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>>181935349
WOW A WHOLE 2% MORE DIFFERENCE AT STAGE 5
Thanks for proving I was right
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>>181935462
the only issue will be having to buy tokens with ingame silver, but they're fairly cheap and you can acquire enough money to buy a one month taking in 2 or 3 days of very casual play. Paying players can get the p2w cube that gives you goodies but they can be acquired normally without having to pay, just putting in some extra effort. There are no items that can only be acquired with real money other than aesthetic stuff like costumes and hair styles
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>>181935667
stop spreading misinfo that 2m can be made in 2 days on a fresh character
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>>181936167
token dont cost 2m anymore bro
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>>181936216
yeah you're right, on my server there is only one at 4m
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>>181936306
They should add tokens to gacha.
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>>181936306
you can't sell token for more than 3,5m
do you even play this game ?
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>>181936409
>make token gacha only
>rank A 1% possiblity
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>>181936529
nigga u stupid
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>>181936635
take a SS of a 4m token and i give you 1000 blessed shards
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>>181936747
send me the money
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>>181936747
>SS
Fucking nazis get off my board
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>>181936849
what server?
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>>181936849
what the actual fuck, they can't be register in my serve for more than 3,5m
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>>181936938
Are you fucking retarded? You can list anything you want at whatever price you want if you have a token.
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>>181936938
send blessed shards now
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>>181937108
sent :)
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>>181937241
faggot
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>>181936938
>>181936927
klaipeda btw
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>been awake 4 hours
>been masturbating for 3 hours

someone help, I can't stop. I want to play the game but my character is so cute and lewd. I want to have sex!!
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>>181937625
send pics of your char so we can masturbate too
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>>181937978
No! She's mine!
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Is Swordman viable yet?
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>>181937625
send me ur nude, I want to masturbate too
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>>181938206
yes, it is
go either doppel or murm nobi, both are really strong and require considerable investment
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>tfw actually going to finish antennas before artilonium
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>>181938705
dumb rodent
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@181938705
@181938754
no one cares you insufferable attention whore redditor
stop replying to yourself
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>>181938705
I have more yellow caro kills than you
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>>181938906
Most likely, i have 6k Caro kills and i started farming the antennas for the bow from 1.5k
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>>181938876
Fuck off Klaicuck
Blogposts are allowed and WELCOME in this general
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How do you even distribute your points for str, int, etc? Is putting 300+ points in one stat depending on your class and kinda neglecting the rest really the way to go?
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>>181939164
if you're a caster you go full int
if you're a priest3 chap you go full spr
if you're a support you go full con
if you're a non-attack speed reliant phys class you go full str
if you do rely on attack speed you go 200 dex and rest into str
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>>181939297
>if you're a support you go full con
so, no one goes full con
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>>181939297
You can go full DEX if you are sub 10ms ping on AA builds or full physical whale stage 8+ weapon
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>>181939490
cryo chronos go full con
full support taoists go full con
PvP memers go full con, but who cares about them?
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>>181937625
Stream yourself masturbating to your character so I can masturbate to you masturbating to your character.
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>>181939602
>all CON full support taoists
who the fuck plays them?
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>>181939928
seen them in several solmiki groups
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>>181939928
sluts
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>>181939074
no they aren't you fucking fedicuck
no one cares about the disgusting attention whores you server hosts
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>>181940075
Klaipeda has worse desu
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>>181940301
Fucking pathetic.
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>>181939672
I've always wanted to stalk people that post here, and screenshot their character. Then print out the picture of their character and spray my seed all over it. Then take a picture of that and post it here.
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>>181940552
Just posted a fact, this general has more shit comming from NA server but if it's NA then it's fine i suppose
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Why is a dead game still being DDoS?
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lmao
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>>181941171
>/tosg/ killing other /tosg/
why can't we all be friends
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How to improve WolfB&B? Looking Glass helps Beast and Flower Princess, that's it really.
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>>181941381
looks like you should transcend your weapon further in order to win
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>>181941437
lmao wrong thread, my b
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>>181941171
dead game
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>Druid Master inexplicable sold all of her family's land JUUUUUUUST before the shit hit the fan and sent its value down the toilet

She caused all of this, didn't she?
She's on their side.
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>>181941171
triggered tranny spergs a tantrum.jpg
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>>181941171
wtf i hate transexuals now
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>>181941171
LOL
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>>181941171
Lotus is full of neckbeards or underages. Only possible explanation to the fact they play at 11am on a Froday morning.
Fucking weaboos parasites
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>>181941381
It's shit mate, Forest is still kill
Go play Blood or NeutralSword
B&B is just too much inconsistent
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>>181941862
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>>181941862
>froday

you mean frogday?
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Should i main Yugi Muto or Seto Kaiba?
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i killed the tower you retards

i'm the actual^tm leader of lotus for all you newfags

please quit the game

Atom out
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>>181941945
exactly. Friday is the day of the frog
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>>181942238
I'm the shadow leader of Lotus, and I planned all of this.
Well done, my servant.
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>>181942238
go suck a dick
well better not, you might like it too much you tranny :^)
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>>181941618
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Lotus | Banned Leadership | 90% of server population | TOP 9 guild | bullies | PvDepression | ALT GUILDs | DRK HEROS | ERP Tower | NO GIRLS | Autism | BOSS DENIALS | Jace's OG crew | SR Biker Gang | communism | ded gam | KIIIIIIIIIIM | 2 WEEKS OF DRAMA and Counting | imgay

also PM me for free reversi scrolls (moot during boss patch anyway)
Friend
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Wheres lotus tower btw? ;)
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>>181942509
the fuck's wrong with you?
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who the fuck is lotus and who the fuck is friend lol
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>>181942509
cringe
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Lotus guild/members are cringe as fuck
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>>181940075
>>181940552
This is what i was talking about :^)
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>>181943015
Keep up the good attentionwhoring work my dude.
Don't forget to lose your shit and spam your name in capslock when the thread talks about what's happening on klai too much.
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>>181942750
contracted mad cow disease after erping too much with lacow
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wasn't this thread supposed to be about lots of tiddies?
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The real question here is

why Futureproof didn't atacked first? lmao with you guys.

being btfo by a normie guild lol.
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>>181943324
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So this is what happens when neet manchildren start to build up too much estrogen from playing female characters all day and reading degenerate anime rape porn and being fat.
They're starting to have periods and need to shit up the game and thread for no explicable reason
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>>181943324
We can't show tiddies here.
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>>181943146
I am not even who you think i am
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>>181943324
I thought this thread was supposed to be about Wugushi.
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>>181942886
This.
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>>181943868
wugushit
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How rare is portium and how hard is crystal mines? I have a ton of level 317 alts that I could do it on if it's easy. Can you Pillage them with Corsair or double them with Swell?

I want to make a purple mace for my Priest3 Chap Inquisitor!
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>>181944131
You dumb retard you shouldve gone PD2
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>>181944131
Portium is rare like 1-4 per day of crystal mines but I'm pretty sure it drops in one of the hunting grounds from mirtislampa or whatever the big bats are called.
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>>181944226
I already have a PD2, and it'll use the mace as well. I'll also use it on my FF2.
>>181944260
Is it easier to farm mirtislampa than do Crystal Mines on a bunch of characters?
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>>181943324
Sure
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>>181943654
You sure do have an active imagination, don't you?
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>>181943804
>Bakarine will never service your dick

Why even live
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>>181944373
It's insanely low chance. The HG mobs are too far between to make this worth the time consumption.
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>>181944404
buttpirate?
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>>181944131
what server are you on
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Has Impetus killed Lotus tower?
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>>181944578
Klai
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I've got 15 TP to spend on an hairstyle, the current one is short ponytail, which doesn't fit my Inquisitor very much IMO.
Which hairstyle is best? I wanna give her the harsh sugoi sugoi look
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>>181944695
no lol
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>ohayo / porn posters are dead worried about the thread dying again
no matter what you post for how many weeks
this game is dying fast and in just a few weeks you will lose close to 500 to 1000 players again
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>>181944771
Pay up and get a REAL hairstyle, hobo-chan.
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>>181944416
Just had a burst of insight of why the community is as shit as it is
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>>181944854
R9 will save the game! I believe in Kim!
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>>181944695
yes in gvg, we lost to impetus before against their rogue3 strat

but right now our tower still stands
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>>181945051
>we
>reddit spacing

you need to go back
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>>181944895
no fucking way I'm gonna pay 10 dollars for a fucking hairstyle
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>>181944854
>this game is dying fast
You've been saying this for 2 fucking years
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>>181945128
If only it was that cheap, it's actually $20.
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>>181945128
but then you can buy the Noble Long hairstyle which is the best one in the game!
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>>181945193
yeah fug it. Have 15 tp anyway to spend, so why not on a hairstyle-
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>>181944716
come to fedi ch4
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>>181945051
>>>/r/treeofsavior
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>>181945334
>spending money on cosmetic-only
what are you, autistic?
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>>181945447
*farts In discord* BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP
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>>181945570
>she doesn't want her character to look as cute as possible
you're playing the game wrong
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>Cutting your own hair
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Which one is more future proof?
Wizard3 Elementalist3 Warlock2
Cryomancer3 Elementalist3 Rune Caster
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Finally got my inquisitor.
First skill to upgrade?
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>>181943474
>didn't atacked
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>>181945887
One is top tier now and will be top tier for a long time due to its scaling
The other one is just shit and will probably continue to be so forever
What do you think?
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>>181945696
>he's referring to anons as "she"
Kek, stop being an overweight basement-dweller weeb for fuck's sake
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hey mates give me picture PLAY THE GAME meme

please
thanks
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>>181946090
why should I
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>>181945923
Malleus 1 > God Smash 1 > Breaking Wheel 1 > God Smash 5 > Malleus 5 > Pears of Agony 1 > Breaking Wheel 4
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>>181945447
Thanks! You're the best!
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How much Crit Rate is too much for a Swordie?
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>>181946220
There's no point to taking any points in pears if you aren't getting 5 installations and no point to God smash if you're Chaplain.
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>>181945887
>Runecaster
>Not Wiz2

Your life without Surespell will be suffering.
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>>181946361
How bad can you be at math?
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>>181946361
Never too much unless you can get better other
stats in
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>>181946208
because i came here to tosg thread, nobody coming here for years

i need it for reasons
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>>181946010
I don't know, I'm new and these wizard builds caught my attention. Thanks anyway, I think I got it.
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>>181946402
Pears are 5 at any level now, but it's true, it's not worth taking them now
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>>181946361
Can you never have "too much" Crit Rate on Swordie
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>>181946402
>No point in using god smash if chap
kek what are you gonna do, Put % points into pears?
God smash is a good skill for chap builds too
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>>181946402

>no point to God Smash if you're Chaplain

Why not?
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>>181946605
*You'll* sorry, I'm fucking drunk right now
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It's about goddamn time
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>>181946437
I'll assume this is actually important since the other option doesn't seem to be very popular, I'll take the Wizard 3 option, thanks.
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>>181946804
weeb

What the fuck is wrong with Steam? Everything else on my computer is running fine, but steam is shitting itself.
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>>181946804
>normal non-TP pleb hair
>Fallen Angel Wings
you got some room for improvement there
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>>181946769
God smash takes longer to cast than basic attack, only gets blessing damage once as opposed to 5 on basic, and does roughly the same damage once defense etc is accounted for. Pears at least have some utility in minigame and can situationally be good boss damage.
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>>181947092

You'd need to have a really shitty weapon for a nearly 2000% scaling skill to end up doing less damage than your auto attack.
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>>181945887
There will most likely be rank resets again once a huge update arrives. Go for what is meta right now.
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>>181947092
>Pears at least can be situationally be good boss damage
Uhmm, try again sweetie?
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When are the Wugushi buffs, Kim?
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>>181949756
it aint coming, my dear friend.
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>>181950346
They were buffed before, they can be buffed again!
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>>181950501
they only got buffed because the devs knew they would turn to shit again shortly after with keknewal, bullying wugus gives IMC great satisfaction
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>>181950802
They'll need to buff us again if they want to bully us some more, I'm not sure we can get much lower than we already are.
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>Just kill some MVP with 8 million HP with some of my friends
>Get a cube
>Suddenly we get a debuff which cant get a cube from another MVP monsters in 8 hours (in game time, exiting game dont count)

Its like IMC is trying so hard to make this game less interesting & make people quitting this game.

Too bad, it had so much potential on this game.
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>>181951185
Whatever, foreigner
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>>181951185
it does tick down while logged out and will get removed with the bossupdate anyway
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>>181951185
the debuff is going to get removed soon
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>play the game less and less every day
....
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>>181952130
>play the game less and less every day
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>>181951450
This, though the monsters will have 200m+ hp so a lot of bosses will be ignored and not killed, while others will have enough parties attend that you will have no chance at a cube.
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dead game
dead thread
dead servers
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>50% attribute god smash hit over 4500% with a mace
>it's weak than a autoatk

wtf, are you guys still using five hammer
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>>181952840
Uhh, 5 hammer is the best weapon in the game.
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>>181952681

-4000 players
-1990 of them is full of necrobot
-another 1990 is full of buffbot

There are like only 20 30 active players everyday on every ToS servers
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>>181942238
>>181941171
>i got bored
Baka! Now you can not poke our tower anymore.. trying to force a fight.. but nobody will come to defend.
You'll be even more bored the next days, baka friendo!
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>>181937625

you are lucky, I got a double j stent removed last week and my dick is still sore due it
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>>181937625
post lewds
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>>181952840
How are you getting that? I'm seeing it does 1500 at level 6, then +50% for blunt weapon and +25% for 50% attribute.
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>>181954898
And the +50% from mace bonus applies after damage reduction from armor.
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>>181954898
>>181955007
He's probably counting lethargy too
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Whats the common normal attack without any buffs for level 170 ?

Does 1000 normal ??
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>>181953083
>There are like only 2030 active players everyday on every ToS servers
>6 servers
12k players isn't that bad
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>>181955410

EDIT : level 170 elementalist
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>>181955410
>Does 1000 normal ??
BUILD THE WALL
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Rebalance didn't save this game.
Give me one good reason why I should stay.
>ET Solmiki is hours of daily grind for months
>Orange weapons suck without lucky anvils / 2000 blessed shards
>No content updates since forever (R8)
>Guild raids are a joke and guilds greedy fucks
>No crafting or hunting for rare drops
>kTEST hasn't had an update for over a month
>We still are lagging badly behind kTOS
>More pay to win every week
>Boring gameplay
>Laggy servers
>Exploiters / cheaters / botters get no punishment
>/tosg/ is a shit hole
>Class balance still broken
>Skills that are useless, still remain useless
>Saalus = boring, no one wants to do it
>290 = boring and little gains
>ET = boring
>DPK farming = boring
>HG = 10,000 DPK drops? fuck you
>No gear variety
>World bosses don't matter and the patch won't change that
>Hethran badges pointless
>No orange tier top/bottom/gloves/boots in the game still
>Same rings (Sissel, Archmage, Phada, Gladiator) still end game for over 2 years (yeah, since fucking beta)
>Pets useless as fuck, just a waste of slot unless your class forces you to use one
>Weapon balance all over the place with retarded stats or negative in some orange weapons
Could add more, but this game is depressing me that I don't want to.
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>>181954898
>>181955007
>>181955286

sorry, I calculated it using the old attribute formula, it's 25% for the 50%. 50% would be lv 100 attribute, which is expensive as fuck and not worth
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>>181955964
Bye!
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If you don't enjoy killing mobs and chatting to people, go play something else and leave this general.
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>>181956172

Ok, This thread is closed now.

Move to this thread, anons :

>>181931268
>>181931268
>>181931268
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any experienced dragoon here? I know gae bolg debuff splits the damage but does it apply blessing and concentrate twice?
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>>181956538
No.
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>>181956538
>Dragoon
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>>181956172
Killing mobs is not enough. The killing needs to be fun.
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>>181955410
>>181955529
>>181955559

Need a serious answer here
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>>181956957
Go play dork souls or something.
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>>181957103
?
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>>181957493
Oh I see, they can't speak English.
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>>181957320
Nobody for does awareness of the attack power in those level.
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>>181957906
>Nobody for does awareness
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>>181957906
You got some brain issues man
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>>181946967
>gothic costume
>weeb
are you ok anon do you have brain damage?
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Haven't played since the closed beta, does the Electrocute+Joint Penalty combo still work?
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>>181955529
>>181957692

The reason why ToS community is shit and why that game should stay dead long time ago.
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>>181955964
>she really did believe the 'rebalance will save game' maymay
bye retardo
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>>181955410
>>181955529
does not matter at that lvl. get pardoner buffs in town, but only 3000+ buffs

and elem is not a autoattack class anyways
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la forehead
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>>181958606
probably, but linker is nerf'd
elect does a lot of hits, maybe not worth it now to combo them

Freeze+Elect is strong
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Actually A maxed god smash with reine hammer doeas 10k damage on my chaplain, while autoattacking does 3500x4 AA so 5k more.
how come?
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>>181959601
Because reine mace is a shit low damage weapon.
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>>181959692
well, any lvl 270 mace where I don't need to spend bilions of silver on par with reine mace performances?
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>>181959172

I choose wiz3>ele3>warlock route

Did i do the right thing or not ??
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>>181959795
No. Keep Reine until you get Vienarazi mace.
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>>181959601
>>181959692
go make a skull smasher, fucking pleb
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>>181956594

that's so sad
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>>181959814
Wiz3 Elem3 WL2 is best Wizard DPS and meta
Hail can freeze stuff

do something like
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#2111bbbff.3f657585.1e3f41516185.1828314a51
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>>181959919
nigga I don't have the whole day to farm dpk materials you no-life weeb
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>>181959814
you literally only do one thing in the game and that is ET
if you can't find an ET party, don't make a warlock
you don't use the character for anything else
it's useless everywhere else
can't even farm 290 effectively even with good gear
they nerfed WL2 farming
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>>181959814

literally the most overused meta build, just pump int and you'll be fine with warlock 2
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I miss pre-renewal pyro (agny) so much
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>>181960147
kek, get a load of this dude
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>>181959919
god smash will not outdamage a chaplain's autoattack, you'd have to go full strength or some garbage
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>>181960335
>playing aoe builds outside of ET
kek
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>>181959601
>His Aspergillum doesn't deals 10k+ damage per hit
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>>181960410
if you actually invest into a skull smasher, even at low points of investment (something like +11 stage 3/4) it will do outdamage a chaplain's autoattack
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>>181960019
>>181960147
>>181960181

Last question, what is good & cheap weapon for those ?
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>>181960468

>being boring than being fun

Multiple kek
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>>181960927
anything cheap with good magic attack while you are low lvl
save your cash

At 300+ just farm or buy a Blue Lv315 staff. they are good for starters (or alts)
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Yo i'm new to this games where can i find good builds
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>>181960031
>vienarazis
>dpk materials
?
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>>181960512
no aspergillium deals 10k a hit nigga
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>>181961156
Yo read this thread or ask your guild.
Or post builds here, but not the same bullshit each day, read the thread. But dont blindly believe everything here, use you'r brian
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>>181960272
Agny doesn't matter it was the multi hits and links. They don't have to nerf fucking everything.
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>>181961156
https://treeofsavior.com/page/class/ranking.php
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>>181960525
>investing time/money and wasting a skill slot for doing slightly less than an autoattack
It's like autism, but with pract weapons!
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>>181961354
you are right mine does 15k
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>>181961164

I was speaking of skull smasher. Viena Mace looks like shit

>>181961562
please stop sperging your autism with this bullshit
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>>181961680
how come all skull smasher's recipes are so fucking expensive on Klai? 9m on a recipe jesus christ
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>>181961680
Aspergers actually does hit that high on a lot of enemies due to being holy element, especially if you also are hitting a malleus'd target.
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>>181961857
It used to be like 30m and the mats 2x as expensive not too long ago, you should be glad it's that cheap.
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>>181961958
no fucking way. stop lying.
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>>181961354
>500% matk
>can't hit 10k
Try upgrading your mayor's iron club
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>>181961074
>there are maps with insane mob density to take advance of the AoE skills of a Elelock
LMFAO

>the elelock dies to damage while a PD2 does the same job better and has heals
DOUBLE LMFAO
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>>181961857
>fucking expensive
>9m
>BiS endgame weapon recipe
Negro please
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It's remarkable how this thread without fail becomes so much more retarded around 2 PM EST Friday every single week.
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>>181961394
my brian stopped working
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>>181962178

>Not playing with your 3 other best friends

INFINITY KEKKKKK
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>>181962178
Who are you quoting?
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>>181961680
Viena mace is pretty much the only good purple pract weapon.
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>>181962203
>"""""""""""""""endgame"""""""""""""""
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>>181962174
not that guy, but you mean god's smash attribute?
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Why does vendetta displays "attack = 0" in my tooltips?
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Is thre any reason at all (except apergillium's sinergy with it) to cast aspersion?
The 110 phys defence seems quite low and not worth the hassle
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>>181963037
aspersion with enhance
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I want to farm a boowook gem, any suggestions on how show I do it? I know in the 220 HG there are boowooks, however I think that the royal mausoleum spawn is much bigger, the only issue being the fact that there'll be more noobs around killing mobs (so they can end up getting the drop, but they can also make the counter increase). I have a SR to farm it which should be near optimal (probably cata would be better cause oneshotting the mobs should be easy and cata gets trot)
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>>181962453

There's only a few really shit ones. At this stage of the game if you still don't have an orange weapon you're probably not going to reach the level of investment they require to be better than purples.

The exceptions, I'd say, are Regard Horn Pike (purple 2h spear is absolute shit, easy mats) and Emengard Musket (mats are all RNG and easy, cheap recipe). The other purples are all more or less serviceable up to stage 4-5.
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>>181963252
m8, the attribute meas you enhance the damage dealt when casting aspersion, not when using aspergillium.
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>>181963283
Tell me what server so I can come and snipe it with my SR after you've been farming for a few hours.
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>>181963484
You do realize aspergillum just casts your aspersion whenever you auto attack, at whatever level and damage values it has at that moment, right...?
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>>181963521
fedi, come and get it if you can
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>>181963156
epends on your level, 110 defence might be high for starters
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>>181963687
I will in a few hours. I'll bring my Chrono friend too.
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>>181963658
I do realize I'm effectively an idiot
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>>181963283
>>181963521
GL to both of you, i just send a msg to my chinese bot net buddy, 20+ low chars per channel incoming
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>>181963283
Wait for the progressive dpk removal update, gems droprate will get doubled
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Fucking hell, do I really need to spend 10m on inquisitor's Burn attribute?
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Which skills should I get as a pyro? I'm only interested in pve.
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>>181964581
I'd put most of my points in fireball and flare, not sure how good flare is now but I think it's pretty good, spend 1 point in flame ground and flame pillar, and maybe consider maxing enchant fire
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>>181964378
10k+ Incineration without blessing is pretty neat
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>>181963156
Nope, not at all
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>>181964931
ok thanks
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>>181964378
*20m, that thing is pretty good senpai
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>>181964581
>Pyro
oh well,
Ball is shit. zero
Ground and pillar a few
Wall max if you want
enchant fire isnt bad but also not good. property dmg sucks
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>>181964378
You also need to spend 20m on the darkness resistance attribute, you never know when it'll be useful!
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>>181964581
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#21222..1c26354f516571
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>>181964997
oh so the single level price rises?
Jewisitor master
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>>181965457
It costs 20.4m to max it, but the rate for it is good
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JUST IMAGINE SOMEONE WANTS TO PLAY PYROMANCER 3.

ok, he's a retarded, but how we can make this at least decent?

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#21222..2f354f516571

Skill tree:

Fire Wall 15+gem:
firewall has one of the best scalling and the cooldown was buffed after the huge pyro nerf with the renewal, firewall 16 = 9 tiles, 25 seconds CD. Main concern is that the lv 16 is too big (even wit ha cube formation), maybe lv 10 could work for a guaranteed hit on shit and extra points could go into other skills

Hell Breath 5: okay scaling and it's kinda like your ultimate, hits at the same rate as incineration, still could work on lv 1 assuming something else deserves more points, not sure if level makes the debuff stronger/higher chance.


Flame ground LV 1: another gutted spell and didn't received the CD reduction like the others, solid 1 point at least since no more duration scaling, mod damage will come mostly from agny and the base skill itself.

Fire pillar: Cd is now shoter than before, always last the max duration of 10 seconds, great skill, but low scaling, 1 point wonder?

Fireball 15: we'll soon get the 5 overheat buff so, kinda no brainer to spam when the big shit are on cooldown


Enchant Fire 5: it works like a weak transmit prana and the extra line is okay, lv 5 = 100% uptime

Flare 3: leftovers. Has a decent lv 1 base (400%) but the scaling is not that good even at lv 15 (barely 730), basically dumping leftovers


in part 2 of the post I'll talk about class paths
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>>181965850
>https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#21222..2f354f516571
you posted the wrong one, I believe. It has flare 15 and no points in fireball
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>>181965850
nah class is shit, does not really matter where you put points, as long as you dont waste them on shitball
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>not putting points in a decent damage skill with no target limit and really low cooldown
Misinfo agents attacking again.
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>>181966471
Nah he's just a retarded attentionwhore
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>>181965961
>>181966001

oh and inverted just to check the values and sent the wrong build, but you got it, my plan is ball 15, flare 3.

Class paths:

Route 1: the dark thaumaturge.
T2 -> WL 2.
Basically boost your damage with thauma 2 buffs (that scales with your int) and pick warlock 2 at r8 for extra overall DPS. Relatively okay dps boost for your party, somewhat limited farming ability (no jp to burst so you're kinda limited by your own power in what you can kill before swell expires, but 15 seconds at lv 10 swell is fine to be honest).

The Chronomancer.
Classic build from the old times, it's simply, you pass that shitty spells of yours and also supports your party. Rank 8 used to be sage as a no brainer but now that you can't really do much with cloned fireballs, sage is not as interesting as it used to be, but missile hole is still good and now that two sage dps skills actually packs quite a punch with their huge damage mod (but horrible cooldown). Warlock 1 could 1 could work as an option but we al know that WL now shines at c2 with mastema attribute after the DT massive nerf.
Necro c1 was also kinda like WL 1 when Flesh cannon was VERY good, but it suffes from the most problems like DT, low ass scaling and base mod, even being multihit. soon to be buffed to 2 overheat so things might be more interesting for this path, also, there's decay. A chrono with decay would be amazing if archers were more...interesting (the best archer build deals melee damage, sapper 3 falcon 3, kek)

The summoner:
Sorc 2 is the basis of summoner build. The shitty part is giving up on INT for SPR. It's not the end of the world since there's enchant fire and thauma to scale with int so Sorc 2 into thauma 2 could be a thing. Options are also going necro 2 or wl 2 or even FF 2 (decay) if you're crazy enough to roll this without linker.

part 3 soon
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>>181966646
who is? in your crazy brain, who is that poster? tell us anon. I want to know exactly how sick you are.
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>there are still PDs without Sadhu3
baka
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>>181968391
>there are still PDs without Chaplain
baka desu senpai
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>>181968290
>giant paragraphs of text full of useless stuff and personal opinions
>not attention whore
You're just missing a trip, please use one so I can filter you
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>>181968036

PART 3

The Antipode: P3 Cryo 3.
Everyone knows how Cryo 3 works, iceblast deals okay damage, pillar is godly and the icewall combos. unfortunately you can't snow rolling + fireball like before but the build is still fine as a mix of dps and utility. Rank 8 could go either sage or PSYCHOKINO for PP combos, but I'm not sure if we can still place two fireballs (soon 5) on top of the icewall and PP it for shards. Does the new fireball still breaks with one hit with PP or when in contact with icewall?

The Elementalist: Pyro+ele3 is a old combo, but usually people go p2 ele 3 wl 2, but since we want pyro 3, there's the option to go pyro 3, ele 3 and wiz 2 for surespell (and sleep 10 is also okay).

Linker: Linker is not as dead as people tough, you can still combo a lot with it, specially when soloing. Linker 2 for 8 mobs into Warlock/FF? kinda similar to the FF, but honestly, linker is boring. And FF without surespell is tricky to play.

Necromancer: another summoner, spr build if routed to the c3 class, filler could be the c1 sorc for another autoatk bot. it's the safest choice since if your build goes into shit, you can still afk farm with it, kek

Jean Grey route: pyro 3, kino 3. CC and control while your fire dots burns people. Suffers a lot from the fireball nerf since kino mods, while decent, they lack burst and demands channeling. if you don't mind doing hellbreath, pp, gravity rotations... it definitely work. sage at r8 for pvp, cryo for boss burst with ice wall.

Alchemist: kek, another way to save the character slot by going something useful
Wiz3 linker 2: magic missile hangmen combo, links and well. not a big fan of magic missile but it's something that works. Unfortunately, there are better things to pick instead of pyro 3 on a linker centred build. (aka farming thaumaFF)

Did I missed any other relevant option? Please, share your toughs. We want to discuss how to make a decent pyro, we are not discussing true meta builds
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>>181969309
>Please, share your toughs. We want to discuss how to make a decent pyro, we are not discussing true meta builds
There is no decent Pyro builds.

have fun wasting your time on 3 or maybe more textwalls
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>>181969545

give me a reason to play anything that is not chrono, doppel and priest
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glad band x2 or sissel x2 for sap3falc3?

or 1 of each?
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>>181969613
fwee and elementalist
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>>181969641
consider the following:
you don't really need much AoE ratio because:
1. broom trap, your strongest AoE skill, is true AoE thus doesn't require AoE ratio
2. falconer has circling, which reduces AoE defense to 0
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>>181969056
how to fail a [email protected]
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>>181969613
Chrono
Elememe
FF2 farm
Alchejew (kinda shit tho)
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>>181969662

ele is shitty too. fwee is okay
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>>181969056
>chaplain
lul
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>>181969803
but broom trap usually crits because of the attribute, and glad band has crit attack as well as +str.

so both glad band and sissel provide stats that this build already exceeds in, this is where my confusion comes from.
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>>181970046
>best AoE in the game is shitty
lol
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>>181970024
SR>FF2 for farming
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>>181970115

>best aoe

LOL.
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>>181970046
but pd2 doctor or inq?
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>>181970094
Get Glad Band because it's cheap as fuck. I just traded two battle bracelets for glad bands, easiest trades of my life.
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>>181970094
then you can go for a cheap and secret alternative: hethran level 1 bracelets.
They have a lot of crit atk, better mdef than any other bracelet in the game other than solmiki, I believe, they also have some patk and the negative evasion modifier isn't a big deal
Don't try to make level 2 ones though, it's practically impossible
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>>181970268
sadhu PD2 or Chap Inq
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>>181970094

I would still go sissels because, it boosts everything else better, specially sonic strike and multishot and is also overall better for physical dps alts.

>>181970115

Lv 1 cyclone with deeds 15 > whole elele
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>>181970046
Wugushi
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>>postnumber
>something
lul
lol
LOL.
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>>181970363
how does one acquire these?
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>>181970421
if you said punish instead of cyclone maybe you would have had some reason, but post-renewal cyclone is so bad, I barely use it
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>>181970405
why sadman DPtwo and not Play the doctor 2 Doc
Inq?
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>>181970832
Play that doctor is just a meme, you loose out damage from sadman combowombos and you don't have the sinergy of chapman inq
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>>181970725

I'm just comparing. A bad cyclone lv 1 with deeds 15 deals more damage than frost cloud, has overheat, can crit and can be boosted with slash debuffs, while the rest of the doppel set shittys on hail, and even mastema PoA.
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c2 x sadhu 3 pd 2 is best cleric aoe dps, second only to elememe (not by much) and beats that in versatility
c2 priest 2 diev 2 miko tao is best ET support slut
cryo 3 chrono 3 sage is ideal for just about every party and will never be replaced
whatever doppel 3 with lv 10 credit card mastery best versatile phys dps
whatever rodel 3 shinobi murm is best bosser

everyone else is a meme, minigames, or a mistake
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>>181971126
Yeah but can your shitty doppel kill hordes of monsters?
No it cant
>cucked by aoe ratio
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>>181970725
Dont mind him. Shitposteranon didnt even log in this year.
see how he proves that here >>181971126
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>>181971283
I don't agree with him however I'd like to comment that AoE ratio is not that much of a problem with a fwee in your party. I wish circling had some more uptime though
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>>181971197
You forgot Fwee 3
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How much INT should I have on Wiz3 Ele3 Warlock2? I put 17 points into INT & 12 into CON.I read somewhere that I want 50 CON & the rest INT but I don't know if that's bad or not.
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>>181971831
full int, you're a dps
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>>181971831
Full INT.
All the points in CON are wasted
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>>181971937
>>181971942
Fuck. I'm level 35 should I delete my character?
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>>181971993
yes
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>>181971993
level 35 doesn't take much time, if you wanna bother minmaxing go for it, otherwise a few points into con aren't that bad, it won't make a really big difference
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>>181971831
>I read somewhere that I want 50 CON
Let me guess.

>>181971993
Yes, that's your first two hours of game. Go Full INT.
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>>181971993
Level 35 is like nothing, just delete it.
That said, it's not the end of the world if you have a few points in con. It just means you are slightly less dependent on equipment to survive.
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Looking for some suggestions in regards to this build I'm working on and if I'm missing anything huge on the cannoneer side of things or I may have overlooked something. My main goal is high crit auto attack build
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#3111899ff.3a4f5f75.253545.1a2a315475.75

According to my math which might be wrong. Accuracy may be a problem I have to work out, I'd have to do the math on that which I'll do later and invest what little STR I need to, to make sure I hit.
Also I'm consdering dropping the 1 capture to get 5 Evasion as those calculations are with Lv5 Evasion instead of 4.

Going to start on this today probably.
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>>181972026
>>181972064
>>181972104
>>181972125
Deleted. Thanks anons. I'm assuming a lot of info about the game on the net is wrong?
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>>181971542
If you have a fwee in your party then just aiming + hail > the entire doppel rotation
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>>181971831
Remake it. The CON is a total waste and it won't take you long at all.
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>>181972685
>I'm missing anything huge
Yes, Glass Moles.
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>>181971283

Any retard with sarkimis, vubbe, two phadas (no need for sissels with quicken), potion and barbecue have enough aoe ratio for this game. Plus, falconer is meta for a reason, not only it negates any aoe ratio trouble the doppel might have but also increases the dps.

AND BASICALLY NOTHING BOOSTS ELEMEME'S DAMAGE.

4 (base) + bbq (+3), sarkimis (+2) vubbe (lol, +2), 2x phada (+2), potion (+3) = 16 aoe ratio. cyclone, the now shitty spell also gives +8. so a whooping 24 aoe ratio. cyclone does 5 hits per second. FIVE! and I'm not even counting the other skills because well, elememe's other skills are even more capped than the others. Hail is rng and well, while aiming (falconer) helps, again...better gets a lot more from the birbmaster than the elememe. Electrocute is limited to 11 targets at the best possible scenario of gem+dm. meteor burst is okay but frankly, one punish deals triple the damage.

Pixel of agony is...just a pixel and mastema, while respectable,has a huge ass SD and still deal less damage in total than a fucking c3 doppel rotation that can be used in less than 10 seconds

doppel is just the best dps in the game, both aoe and single, accept it, wandcuck.
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>>181972926
Took rogue, going to be werewolf instead of glass moles, that said I could go glass mole but it would invalidate the point of going crit and taking rogue to hit that 90%~ crit, when it's really hard to hit even 66% without any rogue points
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>>181971197
you forgot best build cause, you know, you can hit a spinning wheel
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>>181972820
There are just many bad players with many bad opinions. This is normal when a single build can involve so many choices.
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>>181972820
If you get that info from tosbase then yes except it's Valkoria's build
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>>181972820
Do not blindly follow builds from tosbase.com and you're fine.
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>>181973003
Yeah but Glass Mole >> crits on burst builds.
Smoke Grenade cd is perfect for Mole since small sp potions had 30s cd.
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>>181973213
valkoria's builds are the new rugal builds
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>>181972946
>doppel is just the best dps in the game

not the best but its definitely second or third best without question. Also why that class deserves to be nerfed into the dirt along with the rest of the swordsman tree besides murm because that class is pretty cool.
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You'd think energy bolt would have a cast time/charge. Weird.
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nice thread lol
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>>181973552
Thanks Anonymous.
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>>181970623
Saalus, Jewelry Collector.
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>>181965850
Flare is probably the best skill. that 730 is before attributes and agny. It'll be doing 10x your magic attack per hit, so that's like 3k% of your attack. It's pretty good. Fireball kind of scales bad. It's range is nice but the only good thing about it left is stacking like 10 of them and hitting them all into enemies/luring enemies into them, and you won't be able to do that anymore with a cap of 5 balls out. Flame ground isn't that bad. It's duration is shit but after firewall it's doing decent damage with attributes and you can use flare on it without having fireball's randomness, pillar's small area, or flame grounds swiftness in going out. Enchant fire isn't really worth getting imo. Hell Breath, it was borderline before, but none of your skills do enough damage or last long enough to bother with the buff and the skill is limited in time now too so you can't just pump fire into things until they die.
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>>181973412
It was recently removed for whatever reason
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>>181973134
>anything inquisitor
>not minigames or meme
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>>181974737

But Agny just adds +50% to the skill mods (as in, 730% -> 780%,) but I got it, it's like 1035% at lv 70 attribute) but agny biggest impact is on the low mod multi-hit skills (like incineration, pillar, ground and hell breath). what bugs me about flare is the animation...it's cool but kinda slow and demands burning (flame ground/pillar usually). I'm favoring fireball more but I can see a flare build working better.

Again, the reason for enchant fire is leftovers and to boost the low mod high multihit skills (you get extra 5% per level in pillar/ground, while enchant fire adds damage to all your skills and scales with your matk/int) plus SR/chaplain bros love it

Hell breath debuff is nice when you combo pillar+ground+HB, lots of fire multihits being boosted at the same time, also, while you channel HB you're immune to melee attacks and most knockbacks.

Again, I'm literally theorycafting since I didn't played pyromancer 3 a lot, specialyl after the renewal.
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>>181975484
>what bugs me about flare is the animation
It's 3 times faster than ball's, you can easily fit all 3 in chapparition's buff.
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Can cubes in the 230 HG drop Pajeets dagger or is it strictly the 240?
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>>181972946
>AND BASICALLY NOTHING BOOSTS ELEMEME'S DAMAGE
>BASICALLY NOTHING
kek, you're obviously never done solmiki with an elememe and a falconer

circling makes magic missile obliterate hordes of monsters, aiming makes hail do the same

on top of that, aiming + hail fucking destroys bosses. whereas falconer does nothing to increase doppel single target damage other than allowing a doppel to attack from slightly further away

t. doppel who runs with an elememe buddy
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>>181975614
They drop the same cubes, 240 has a slightly better drop rate.
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>>181975746
>doppel .... elememe buddy
Nice try anon, but well all know that is literally impossible. Different meta classes hate each other and would never ever be buddys,
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>>181975970
fat
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>>181975484
>while enchant fire adds damage to all your skills and scales with your matk/int
Yeah but elemental damage is shitty now. It's good if you're auto attacking with lots of lines, yeah, but for yourself, it's probably better to have something that does significantly more damage than an auto attack (flame ground) However flare does most of the work with flame ground so 1 point is fine. It's just if you invest in it and add attributes and Agny, it'll do something like 300% per hit, which is like 15k if you have 5k magic attack.

>But Agny just adds +50%
It's still several ks more damage to anything. I've been looking for something better and adding another 50% of your magic attack to an attack is still just too good. They should buff animus to like 70-80% of your hp rec as mamp.
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>>181975350
>good support
>good dps
>good crowd control
Pls, don't speak bad of best build
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>>181976270

Oh I agree on using agny 24/7, never considered anything else, maybe in the thauma warlock build since you can transpose snapshot the animus for your warlock spells. What I was saying that... the base damage from ground and pillar + agny does all the lifting since even on a 80% attribute scenario, it's a 191% mod vs 300% mod (lv 1 vs 15) but it's unlikely that I would go lv 15 on ground, maybe 8... Also, there's pillar to consider extra points since FG is smaller and doesn't hit flying stuff (pillar 1 = 155% vs 219% at lv 10).

Assuming lv 15 flare/wall, lv 1 ball and 5 hb, 1 ground and 1 pillar and 0 enchant fire, that's 7 spare points (so flame ground 8 or fire pillar 8 or mix both...)
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>>181976776
>not PD2
bad dps
>not taoist
bad support slut
>crowd control
lol
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Why do groups set loot to Round Robing in ET? Am I being fucked over? Just got 1 fucking shard.
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>>181930815
Some time ago i fucked up and followed a build from tosbase, luckily i realised that it was shit pretty early, but not early enough to not fuck it up a little, so, can i still be able to make a cute dragoon with a build like this?
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1114449ff.3a4a5565.1f293f6571.153155.1a2a3555
or should i just reroll into something like this
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1134449ff.23334551.15243541.1f293f6571.153155.15253441
I have absolutely no idea of what i'm doing, so i will apreciate any advice.
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>>181978158
doppel sucks as a one circle dip now, pick something else
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>>181972946
>potion for AoE
lol
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>>181978297
Alright, so what classes should i take to make a dragoon?
I'm not asking for a full build, but i want to at least have hint of what to look for.
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>>181978567
you should probably go for something like swordsman 3 hoplite 3 goon 2
also, I hope you're not heavily invested in dex cause it kinda sucks for the build now since things changed
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>>181978567
You want hoplite3 for more crit and pierce damage increase
You want Swordman3 for more non getting knocked down

Lo and behold you're already maxed out on circles
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>>181972946
>AND BASICALLY NOTHING BOOSTS ELEMEME'S DAMAGE.

My Bokor PD2 does. Effigy makes Mastema, Pixel and Spirits all hit 30% more damage plus it reduces m.def of those monsters by 10% and we all know reducing defenses of mobs is an amazing damage boost. Too bad 10% is hardly anything though, but most mobs have like 4000 m.def+++
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>>181977953

Cahp PD2 has worse dps and sinergy
Sadhu PD2 is not good support as it has not priest 3
Taoist, Good support but non-existent dps
Crowd control: BREAKING WHEEL YOU HERETIC
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>>181978567
You shouldn't make a dragoon...
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>>181977953
>support PD2
>good dps
pick one
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>>181978658
>>181978767
Thanks a lot guys
>>181978874
But i want one
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>>181978795
speaking of it, mastema boosts holy damage a lot

hanaya is huge on mastema'd targets
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>>181977953
By dps PD2 you mean the sadhu variant right?
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>>181971197
Fencer is best bosser though
Its literally a better doppel
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>>181978795
>Too bad 10% is hardly anything though, but most mobs have like 4000 m.def+++
Not one has now.
Soon*tm a handful of bosses have 4.4
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>>181978158

It makes me a little sad that that Red Mage Joe guy is actively going out of his way to misinfo people. I refuse to believe he's actually that stupid. Dragoon is not in a great spot right now but it's made even worse because half of them have this retarded build with SPR and DEX.
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>>181977515
I'd probably do 15 flare, 10 wall, 1 ball/pillar/hb, 15 ground and just have 2 leftover. If you're going to take hellbreath, you should probably take wiz 2 because fucking everything knocks you out of it.

Firewall also doesn't gain any power other than how many tiles you can hit something with, so more than level 8(5 tiles) might be a waste, which lets you max hell breath, incidentally.

Of course in the pyros I do I have, I actually put fireball up higher because burns do damage based on your matk now and if I'm going to be spamming a low cooldown skill, it might as well have some power behind it. It's still shit though.
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Seriously, why do I see lots of Chap>PD2 online?
I thought it was a meme build and not really good
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>>181979642

dex is not that bad with 800 crit rate from finestra and concentrate lv 18 doing with over 2k concentrate damage. the build has a LOT of multi-hits and faster autoatks as fillers (s3 hop 3 d2 doesn't has enough skills to avoid autos) are better than low atk speed ones.
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>>181979953
it's just a memebuild
only good Plague doctor is Sadhu plague doctor
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>>181979953
blame the popularity rankings
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h-how do you make friends in this game
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>>181980430
if it's popular it should be good right? How come a bad build is 5th position?
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>>181980168

You're going to get more out of STR than you ever will a single point of DEX and you're not going to 800 crit rate anyway. A small amount of DEX is not enough to make a significant difference in attack speed and you're gimping yourself if you get anything more than a small amount.
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>>181980534
Post cute pics.
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>>181980553
Because it starts off very strong; last rites, sac, and blessing together add around 3k damage per tick of PD skills, so it takes less gear. It's not a bad build its just pointless because bokor and sadhu Doctor are both better.
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>>181981292
so chaplain Inquisitor is better :^)
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>>181980553
A good build can be popular but a popular build doesn't always equate good. Sort the tosbase builds by popularity, chances are they are bad builds but well-written with good grammar and pretty pictures. Casuals eat that without thinking.
As for why this one in particular, I think it's because pd1 used to be the choice for priest3 in r7 since kabba sucked dick out of pvp, as well as chap because why not, hidden classes are cool. They prob just took pd2 later because "oh nice I can do some damage" and didn't reset during event.
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>>181981793
see>>181981679
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>>181980606

Ever tried 2k concentrate, anon? Specially for low mod high multi-hit skills? Also, 800 cr is easy with finestra 15 and green gems. It's even overkill (since the new formula sux) so you do better with 700 + reds.

here are the builds differences. 1226 concentrate = 1839, you can reach 2k with durandal and dex gear

gung ho = 336 attack, a bit more with durandal too (but chops even more def)


now consider your skills, all low mods multi-hits with the exception of dethrone and maybe pierce/syncho thrust lol, and not enough skills to ensure full rotations without filler autoattks

I"m not arguing that one is definitely better than the another, but very high dex concentrate multi-hit builds ARE a thing. Both buidls aren't meta anyway since
>dragoon

lol, so no need to go full spear into it, because the only good choice would be...going doppel
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>>181979181
>Fencer is best bosser though
>Its literally a better doppel

>hitting things for a few hundred k at a time
>not just taking down 20m at once before getting passed
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>>181982198

>few hundred k at a time
>shorter cooldowns and faster rotation

lol
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V Mace or Pierene sword?

I'm using it on my murm. I'm leaning towards V Mace cause I can use it on other classes but Pierene would be just for 1 character.
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>>181982362
What's the point in cooldowns and rotations when you can just one shot the boss.
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>>181982106

I think you're confused. RMJ doesn't advocate an all dex build, his build is 92 con 26 spr 34 dex. Which is retarded.

>Full SPR for 26 levels to prepare for Dragoon's intense SP costs

This is unironically a line in his guide. Nobody sane writes that sentence unless they're misinfoing.
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>>181935462
come play with us! we can help you with the gameplay :D

plus there's a free dlc you can get from the steam tos dlc page
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>>181982595

fencer burst is higher
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>>181982636

oh I was just...arguing in favor of dex, didn't even considered this guide, lol
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>>181983307
So you can deal 20m+ damage in 6 seconds then? cause if you can't then it's not.
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>>181983494

post a vid of this 20m doppel
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>>181982636
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>>181982717
>318 of unused points

And I thought having 100 was too much.
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>>181982636
You'd be surprised to find out how many people recommend noobs to get some SPR to "save potion costs."
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>>181984263
I just carry around my Chaplain's SPR set and swap to it to pop SP pots or sit at bonfires.
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>>181983995

It just astounds me how dedicated he is to it. He writes paragraphs and paragraphs to make it look like he's saying something of value but just says nothing and his argument is always "you don't know the mechanics" or "play the game.

>>181984263

I'm not surprised how many retards there are out there, I'm surprised/sad how dedicated this guy is to ruining people's builds. The guide has thousands upon thousands of words to make it look legitimate.
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>>181984412
>not buying level 15 condense

AYLMAO
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>>181984525
>not getting even a litte bit of SPR in your build
Its like you are not familiar with the new mechanics. AYLMAO
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>>181984469
pls link me the guide of the guy, I'm curious
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>>181984843
>>181984525
>not playing a full SPR chap and never ever need a sp potion or hp potion
It's like you don't even try
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>>181984976

http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/5t2xhujvdi/
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1-4 buy a new watch for 1400 usd
5-9 buy silver for 1400 usd
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>>181985557
let me know if you want to buy a lolo weapon
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>>181985557
What if you rolled 0?
Shoulda donated to GDQ to get a 4000 dollar watch instead.
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bring back the inq discussion desu
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>>181983645
>rodel shinobi murm is best bosser
>no, fencer is better show me a doppel
????
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>12.3m to max Heal attribute
>12.3m for cure
>24.7m for Aspersion Enhance
jesus christ why must priest be that expensive?
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>>181986128
You don't need to "MAX" it
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>>181986128
retard
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>>181986182
why wouldn't you want to max it?
is there a sweet spot before the hyperbolic rise in attribute points?
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>>181984092
i just made this, and i havent decide what points should invest to
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>>181985141
I got a 150 spr elememe necro and having 9k SP is just amazing. All I have to worry about is the level 15 HP condense.
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>>181986048
post a video of a shinobi murm then
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>>181986128
OH WAIT DID I FORGET THE 95m TO MAX CHAPLAIN'S SP RECOVERY ATTRIBUTE?
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>>181986274
yes autismo, going from 90 to 100 costs as much as 0 -> 90
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>>181986819
maybe on rank 1 classes
on rank 2 the sweetspot is much lower
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http://steamcharts.com/app/372000#3m

how long till 2500?
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Greentext story about how a misinfo agent ruined my first character.

>Play tos on release
>misinfo agent told me to go full int on a sorc and to never level spr because summons drain your mana by a percentage, and you can stay at max mana with mana pots
>this worked great until level 200 and then the damage dropped off hard
>come back this week, missed the reset event, learn that I do shit for dps because I'm supposed to be full spr
>now patiently waiting the next reset so I can play the game again.

Death to all misinfo agents.
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>>181988007
>Play tos on release
>misinfo agent told me to go full int on a sorc and to never level spr because summons drain your mana by a percentage, and you can stay at max mana with mana pots
Not missinfo at all, that was how it was working before.
In over a year mechanic changes.
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>>181988236
These crystals need to be replaced with semen filled condoms

Not sure if there is an image like that out already or I dreamt about it
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>>181988007
They literally changed it to SPR in the past few months.
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>>181988236
teach me how to draw RIGHT NOW
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do you have to level up your cards that are used for summoning?
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>>181989418
>step 1: draw lines. sexy lines.
>step 2: color sexy lines with sexy colors
it's that easy, anon. Why aren't you drawing porn for us?
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>>181990169
Yes. Get a level 10 Temple Shooter, Netherbovine, and Rexipher.
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>>181990169
you only need to level one card if you learn the skill that swaps stats

basically just 1 level 10 card, and the 2nd card can be level 1 and it will gain lvl 10 stats
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>>181990691
I tried
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>>181991086
This is a blue board you SICK FUCK.
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>>181991086
tosg drawroom when?
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>>181991086
MODS
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>>181991340
>>181991651
calm down guys, shes 420 years old, only looks like 12
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>>181990691
anon, YOU teach me RIGHT NOW how to draw cute animu girls. it's the law
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38+ days, not counting Mithril. Average luck?
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>>181992034
But I JUST DID
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>>181988293
>>181988760

What, are you saying that my original build wasn't FUTUREPROOF?
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>>181992112
bad luck
it's usually under 2 weeks
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>>181993220
nuts
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>>181993134
>she is falling for 7+1 year old maymays
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What do I do with EXP cards? Do I save them for a certain level?
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>>181993835
Is that VN even worth reading? These gifs are so cute and silly.
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>>181993956
>VN ... worth reading?

its cute and lewd and ...
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>>181993912
Just eat them as soon as you get them it doesn't really matter anymore.
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>>181993956
If you like futas, then yes.
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NAIME
TIDDIES
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>>181994251
Oh nevermind, I'm not a fag.
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>>181992736
SERIOUSLY I'm sick tired of loomis
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>>181994789
It's all futa on female though.
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>>181995254
Who do I insert as then?
>>
So can I play whatever the fuck I want to with the classes and still be viable, or is this the kind of game where no one will want to be within 20ft of you if you don't follow a specific path?
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>>181995468
There's no endgame, so just do whatever you want bro.
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>>181993835
>>181993956
>>181994210
>>181994251

what vn
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Did Klaipeda just die again
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>>181995687
getting real tired of these exploiters downing the server
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>>181995824
Is that really what's happening? I'm new.
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>>181995468
Pretty much, even the shittiest of the special snowflake builds can do fine for most of the game's content now.
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>>181995891
You can enhance your weapon infinitely if you just crash the server every time you fail to upgrade.
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>>181996004
wrong
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>Commander already exist
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>>181996004
That's really fucked up. I hope they fix it. Somehow I'm still logged in.
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I killed a world boss and it crashed the server
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>>181996171
This almost made me miss the CommanderLoadFail days.
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just won a unranked game and it crashed tos server
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>>181995468
Yes, except very few exceptions (pyro, krivis, wugushi)
Your build bust make sense though, you can't just slap random classes together.
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>>181996004
>>181996195
They fixed it literally a year ago, channel doesn't rollback on crash anymore.
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>run saalus with sadhu pd
>miko pd2 always casts her spells after me
need to gas
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>>181996785
>Be Thaum3
>Thaum 1&2 party members feel the need to overwrite EVERYTHING
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>>181996557
>wugushi
uhmmmmmmm, can you not put me on the level of Krivis please?
>>181996785
they fixex that on kToS, we'll get it soon!
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>>181996969
>Be Thaum3
Im so sorry for you anon
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>>181995824
Misinfo agents hard at work here folks
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>>181930815
Is any of these builds good or did i fucked up?
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#112226999.23354552.233f4155657a8591.4595b5.1f5f768693

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#112226999.21344555.253f4351657a8195.95b5.1f315f65758191
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>>181996969
>be thaum3
swollen brain because ur brain damaged to go that deep into thaum
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>>181997219
t. exploiter
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>>181997317
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#112226999.23344355.3b435a657a8195.4595b5.1f41556a768691a1
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Bring my server up right now or I'll have to eat dinner!
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>>181997153
>>181997352
>Current year
>Still falling for the "Thaum 3 is a meme" meme
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Bring the server back up right now or I'll have to masturbate again
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thanks for the chicken tendies mom!. better eat them now while the server is down
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why haven't you quit yet, anon?
b-but that means only 8.61% stopped playing after the resets ended, in contrast to the 20.13% dropoff last time. In addition, before the combat rework, every month other than the initial release, f2p, and first reset event lost more than 5% of the population. These new numbers are ten times better than expected. R9 will save the game, please support this game and buy TP
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>>181930815
The MEME glows white on the mountain tonight
Not a NORMIE to be seen.
A kingdom of MEME-ation,
and it looks like I'm the Queen
The REEEEEEEEEE is howling like this swirling SHITSTORM inside
Couldn't keep it in;
Heaven knows I've tried
Don't let them in,
don't let them see
Be the good ANON you always have to be
Conceal, don't FEEL,
don't let them know
Well now they know
Let it FUNâ„¢, let it FUNâ„¢
Can't hold it back anymore
Let it FUNâ„¢, let it FUNâ„¢
Turn away and slam the door
I don't care
what they're going to say
Let the SHITSTORM rage on.
The DOOMPOSTERS never bothered me anyway
It's funny how some distance
Makes everything seem small
And the fears that once controlled me
Can't get to me at all
It's time to see what I can do
To test the limits and break through
No right, no wrong, no rules for me,
I'm TOSG!
Let it FUNâ„¢, let it FUNâ„¢
I am one with the TOPKEK and THE LOLZ
Let it FUNâ„¢, let it FUNâ„¢
You'll never see me cry
Here I stand
And here I'll stay
Let the SHITSTORM rage on
My power KEKS through the air into the ground
My soul is spiraling in LEWD ERPINGS all around
And one thought crystallizes like an icy blast
I'm never going back, the past is in the past
Let it FUNâ„¢, let it FUNâ„¢
And I'll rise like the break of dawn
Let it FUNâ„¢, let it FUNâ„¢
That perfect girl is gone
Here I stand
In the light of MEME
Let the SHITSTORM rage on
The DOOMPOSTERS never bothered me anyway!

Join Futureproof for FUNâ„¢ and even more FUNâ„¢ in our DISCORD!
PM ApplyAFineHorse3 today!
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>>181998221

Can you go back to your FF14 gimmick? This one sucks. I at least got a laugh out of someone saying ff14 has "GREAT COMBAT" and "AWESOME MECHANICS".
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>>181997634
Well, shit, it looks like i fucked up.
Thanks a lot my man.
Also, is bash really necessary or can i just max concentrate and gung ho with those points?
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>>181998221
Eh, doesn't it just mean that more people leveled alt necro accounts since it only took a day to go from 1 to 317?
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>>181998450
You need bash lv3 for its knockdown attribute, you're going to use it a lot to take down as much monsters as possible for your Punish nuke.
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>>181998363
>ff14
but anon, I don't even play it
I play wow :^)
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>>181998612

Somehow even worse.
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>>181998598
oh, that makes sense, thanks again.
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>>181998612
are you fat and also american/british?
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>>181998292
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>>181998363
>someone saying ff14 has "GREAT COMBAT" and "AWESOME MECHANICS"

This is what my friends who is still playing FF still tells me. Most of them forgot I was the one that told them to play it with me when I was bored one summer morning and was trying to find an mmo to play.
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>>181998221
A L I V E

>>181997973
OMANKO?
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Why is this level 92 farming level 40 mobs in Tenet Church?
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>>182000702
corpse hands
white hair achievement
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>>182000702
BOTS. Almost every person you see in Tenet is a bot, there might be 1 real person running around at turbo speed on a mount trying to farm an item used for late game, but otherwise assume everyone there is a bot.
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>>182000854
Oh okay thanks
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>>182000917
That would explain the level 15 gear...
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>>182000931
since you didn't specify which floor, it's true only for the 2F, the rest are straight up flooded by bots >>182000917
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>>182001186
Tenet Church B1
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I hit level 317 and got my pract weapon. Now what?
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>>182001702
reroll
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>>182001702
Join a guild
Run endgame grind daily
Make alts to farm more
AFK in town
ERP
Quit the game
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>>182002212
I'm just going to look at my character's butt and spray semen all over my screen.
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Good spots for farming items/money on a Thaumaturge?
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quests are so fucking boring please kill me I will go back to path of exile
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>>182002737
check the market and find high priced materials or recipes that are low on supply
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>>182003267
Just quit, there's no gold at the end of the rainbow.
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>>182003267
poe is so much better than this shitheap, the only reason I'm not there anymore is because that game is just not cute at all
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>>182003472
the same can be said about any game though
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>>182003761
the witch is pretty qt though
she has a lisp
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>>182003267
the only reason I'm playing tes is because unlike path there are class roles and playing with friends is actually a thing. the only problem with that is that I have no friends
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>>182003817
I'm saying the game is a themeparky race to the level cap, but there's nothing at the level cap. Literally, nothing.
>>182004056
The graphics are bad, and every time I've tried to get into PoE the guides always end with a class spamming a single skill. The sphere grid thing is also super fucking boring, +stat +% damage, just awful.
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>>182004347
stop reading guides and try out your own idea, no wonder you give up
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>>182005130
I would if the skill system wasn't so fucking stupid. Fucking gas the retard that decided skills should be gems you socket on the weapons.
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>>182005130
good luck doing maps like that though

>>182005321
if you want to cast shit nonstop just give up on cwdt, cast on hit, curse on hit, etc, but suffer the consequences of tendinitis. fucking hate having to cast shit on poe.
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wow look a gvgvg is going on alive game
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wow look I'm getting gibbed from offscreen
wow look I raise and roll my face over the keyboard
wow look I buff myself and immediately delete anyone who attacks me
wow look do I pass?
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>>182009253
r u ok
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>>181995331
>>181993956
This is the only part worth caring about
https://track5.mixtape.moe/eqklab.webm
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>>182009253
>STOP HAVING FUN REEEEEEEEEEE
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>>182009253

don't get 5man raised and use couterspell/detonatetrap/capture/reversi/joust/siege blast/fumigate
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>>182009682
They look so soft.
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>>181930815
Is anyone having problems with receptionist donnes or it's just me?
i want to do my daily quests but this motherfucker is not giving me anything.
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>>182009682
>https://track5.mixtape.moe/eqklab.webm
please give me a name, where can i download this vn
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>>182009990
>if you don't have one of these 7 out of 50 classes in your team you already lost
sounds balanced
when's the next world championship?
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>>182010549
https://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=list&tags=rondo_duo

>where can i download this vn
internet. Just look up the scenes on some porn site.
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>>182010549
https://vndb.org/p568
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>>182010549
rondo duo, sukebei
have a happy fap
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>>182010578

>he thinks all classes are meant for pvp

dude, you can play any base class at pvp, that's more than enough

it's not balanced but it's far from being a mess. r7 post renewal is the biggest issue
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>>182010578
>voluntarily participate in pvp
>get mad when lose
I bet I know how you can fix this problem
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Why is Tenet Church so popular with bots?
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>>182010917
>>182010578
If you want to win, be Corsair+Shinobi/Kino/Hunter/Godquisitor/CataLancer(Questionable)
Its literally that simple.
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I watched the most recent gvg stream from Lotus and it's absolutely ridiculous. It's a fucking mess, nothing changed witht the renewal.
Everyone just runs around at 5 fps like headless chickens, waiting for their OP spell/combo to come off cooldown. And when it's up, they just spam it from accross the screen and colect frags. Everyone constantly dies out of absolutely nowhere. Dying to x7 is perfectly fine AND fun apparently. They all keep giggling like retards whenever they get deleted by x7 from 3 screens away.
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>>182010921
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>>182010921
There's nothing else to do. And the fact that it's utter shit only makes you want to do it more out of rage.
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>>182011217
Small map, condensed spawns. Ashaq is pretty terrible in comparison.
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>>182011345
No wonder why it's dead tim.
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>>182011285

it's not just
>be

you need to play the game and build a proper character.

retards who shitpost (I'm talking about shitposter, not legit pvp complain or discussion) usually are those retard doppels with stage 10 sarkimis that thinks his whale money is also a free pass to pvp wins

anything else was already discusses a billion times and imc is aware and planning to do more pvp changes soon. renewal first part was focused on pve besides a few particular changes to some more pvp related class

and to finish this topic, pvp is not obligatory, literally anything that you could get from tbl like abrasives, cards or even the panda can be bought via uphill pvp points. you can even farm MORE pvp points by only playing uphill than actually joining tbl
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>>182011345
>>182011531
Why do you take this dead Korean kusoge so seriously? Are you okay?
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>>182011773
>reddit spacing

found the lotus whale.
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>>182011830
I don't have anything else in my life
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>>182011345
>>182010917
>>182010578
>>182009990

>>182011285
So obviously you make one of those as a PvP character while you have a separate PvE character.
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>>182011773
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>>182011217
Battle Bracelets notice nobody is telling you about it :^)
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>>182012045
Sad bro
>>
Top lel you can campwarp out of CC

gg no re
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>>182011217
Bleak Chapparition died at 11:51 on 1F. You are welcome
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Do I pass?
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>>182012398
Thanks? I'm new. It looks like it's some type of boss.
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>>182013916

blue
o
a
r
d
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>>182013916
Is she going to gender change some guy and give him to that Hogma?
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>>182014374
>reddit spacing
you have to go back
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>>182014374
hi lotus fatso :)
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>>182013916
>>182014739
nice omanko
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??
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Is it worth playing??? I heard that is flooded with microtransactions
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>>181941171
>>181942238
It was a FUNâ„¢ day.
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Whatever happened to this boss? I remember it was literally impossible to pass it because it kept crashing you with its danmaku. I don't think I've even ever done the whole kinds plateau questline since then. Does it still show up?
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>>182019848
>2017
>online game not flooded with microtransactions
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>>182020154
I've literally never had trouble with this boss even in the earlier days
And now with buff shops you should be able to oneshot it before it attacks
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>>182019848
Almost everything in the cash shop can be traded for in game silver. Character slots are the notable exception. The cash transactions are pretty macro, not micro, anyway.
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>>182020186
What's a macrotransaction or a non microtransaction? Buying patches and subbing?
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>>182020154
Boss still there. But all
>danmaku
are removed.

>>182019848
Game is free, try if you like it.
All optional and most you can buy in market for silver (normal ingame currency)
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>>182020261
>I've literally never had trouble with this boss even in the earlier days
Then you didn't play early enough for bosses to still have danmaku.

>>182020316
I know the danmaku are removed. I still play. I just haven't done the questline fully probably since the first character I made in live and I forgot it even existing.
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reminder
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>>182020562
#BoycottForJustice
#GiveItensPls
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How much is a Earth Wood Goblin Gem worth?
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>>182020292
Anything that isn't the purchase of virtual items or virtual currency to be used within the game.
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>>182021034
So just expansions and subs. Buying the same game over and over is foolish. This is why microtransactions will reign from now on.
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>>182020562
Reminder that with double the population, there were like 100k people playing. It's probably back to 50 or 60k now.
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>>182021140
Making the same game over and over is even more foolish, but who am I to say that when they release a "new" Call of Duty every year... and it always sells.
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>>182021034
>>182020316
>>182020262
Thanks guys, I will be taking a look then
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>>182021034
Then are you saying a microtransaction for a single item could cost more money than a macrotransaction? By definition, macrotransactions have to be more expensive than microtransactions.
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>>182020562
hue
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>>182021349
>By definition, macrotransactions
What definition? I have never seen that term being used in the industry.
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When will Kim fix the mouse mode?
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>>182022690
when there are no bugs
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I'm new and don't have a token. Can I still buy stuff off the auction house?
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Is the game still dead?
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>>182023340
Did you try? If it doesn't let you, it's because of the account being created recently instead of tokens.
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>>182023513
I'll try again. is there a limit to how many things I can purchase?
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>>182021762
I managed to find a case of the Gemstone IV developers using "macro-transaction" in an announcement to describe in game items which are unusually expensive, but I'm scraping the bottom of the barrel. so I'll admit it's almost exclusively used by media faggots and random guy commentators.
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>>182023141
is her dick cute?
link pls
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>>182023548
If you made it past all the anti-bot and anti-RMT faggotry, you can buy as much as you have the silver to buy on the market. The cash shop currency and trade window trades between two players are limited.
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>>182024146
we are on a blue board
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Catacomb or Venier for fencer?
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>>182024318
Email me that shit dude
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>>182024761
no you sound like a gay faggot from lotus
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>>182024585
Catacomb. Venier is shit now with the combat rework. You want high damage.

>>182020960
Bamp
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>>182023141
What's this image about? Something from FF14 general?
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>>182024585
You could also try for Red Karuna if you wanna bother with that rng.
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I got three pract from boxes in one week. How good am I at this game?
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Someone post the code to use right mouse button as off hand attack
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>>182025936
about this much
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>>182025995
More than I expected!
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Is it normal this bird flies all accros the map when you fight her? I started at the north, she kept flying away
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>>182026738
Jesus christ anon, repair your shit
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>>182027162
I will after I'm done with the adventure log kill count!
priest buffs still hit for 20k melee hits normal
>>
dead
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>>182029382
like my soul
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>god smash attribute needs 262m to max
Is there any class as pricey as inquisitor?
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since this thread was about tiddies can the next one be about asses
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>>182031603
why cant we have both
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>>182032047
ok, fine
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>>182029854
retard
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>>182032431
kek, u got rekt and mad
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>>182032490
Your autism physically hurt me, please stop
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>>182032830
niggam you need to max those attributes, or do you want to stay a mediocre faggot?
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is int chaplain viable?
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>>182033292
mediocre faggot reporting
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>>182033405
pd2
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>>182033405
INT chap has absolutely no sense.
if you take chap you go full SPR
>>
Is there a chat command to leave a party? Just trying to optimize stuff.

Also can someone red pill be Rune Caster?
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>>182034328
its shit
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>>182034328
>RC
meme class
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>>182034328
It's only "viable" in a single super shit ancient meme build. They've given it buffs pretty much every major patch, but never enough to actually make it viable outside of that meme build.
>>
What type of build is viable in party and solo play?
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>>182035289
anything cleric
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>>182035289
Chaplain PD2
Chaplain Inquisitor
Sadhu PD2
Monk Inquisitor
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>>182020562
SOPA
>>
>All the gear needed for a Blessing build is the same that pardoner need in order to sell the highest buffs and is pricy as fuck
Fucking shit of a game
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>>182036363
Same for SPR Thaumas. Yeah, TOS is garbage in builds and itemization, nothing new.
>>
http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/6t848puf1p/ opinions on this doppel build?
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>>182036762
>tosbase
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>>182036762
>tosbase
>going SW2 barb3 instead of highlander 3 barb 1
>not maxing zornhau, the heaviest hitting doppel skill
>3 points in cyclone
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>>182036897
>>not maxing zornhau, the heaviest hitting doppel skill
>>3 points in cyclone
Both correct, zornahau gets cucked buy damage cap easily, going above 6 points is a waste.
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>>182037002
what
it's a multihit, it's not affected by damage cap
r-right? I swear I've seen it hit for way more than 555555 often, I can test this easily
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>>182036363
clerics are getting the worst treatment for it.
INT and STR gear isnìt so pricy
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>>182037090
No, it's a fake multihit
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woops, looks like I was wrong
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If I wanted to farm Windrunners, how should I go about doing it?
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>>182038376
get an alt account to afk in that lodge area where canceril spawns
>>
Is the DPK of different kinds of cubes in HG shared? Ex: if I get a 220 weapon cube, is the armor cube DPK also reset?
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>>182038725
No
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>>182038725
Does this gen not have a discord?
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>>182039112
The guilds all have their own discords.
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>>182039112
we have a huge discord at reddit!!
with a very friendly mod!!
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>>182039152
oh i see
never seen that before in a vg gen but that makes sense too
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>>182039257
The guilds started out with too small of member cap and some mechanics are competitive so it just kinda happened that way.
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>>182039394
too bad there's no competition anymore
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>>182037134
it was changed due to a lot of complaints
the 4x modifier can do 555k x 4
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>>182039257
Nobody needs a general discord what the fuck. You have 4chan what's even the point of coming here.
For guilds it makes perfect sense, guilds/clans always had their own communities, be it forums or voice chats.
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>>182039452
No it can't
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>>182039484
I literally just tested it and I can't go above damage cap, I have 10k patk with gmoles so I should really be able to do it if it was possible
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>>182039619
That's what I'm saying, opposed to >>182039452
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>>182039619
meant to reply
>>182039452
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>>182039457
most generals do have a discord
it's just a way for the 4chan community to organize in the games better
threads are not really good for that i think :/
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>>182039728
This is the worst kind of newfaggotry, even though technically there's nothing wrong with being new.
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>>182039728
fuck off kiddo
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>>182039728
>emoticon
You're not fooling anyone. Kill yourself.
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>>182039698
It was changed. You're misinfoing. If you're going to disprove me, do it with screenshots next time.
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>>182039728
End yourself.

Also, you're underage - you shouldn't even be here.
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>>182039728
I agree they should remove /vg/ as a board thanks to Discord being superior to it in every way.
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>We're anonymous leejun we do not forgive we do not forget we do not use emoticons

Wow you sure showed him
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>>182040784
>reddit spacing
you have to le go back
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>>182040643
test it yourself
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>>182040827
t. Lotus forumshitter
Go upstairs your mom just finished making you your tendies fatso
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>>182041041
>tendies
>at 8 AM
I'm jelly.
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>>182040870
I know. I just wanted you to become a better poster.
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>>182040870
wow doppel is fucking shit then lol
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>>182041523
>hits for damage cap several times per rotation
the fuck did you just say about me, kid?
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>>182041603
*doubleslashes you with 5 clones for damage cap on each multihit*
Don't open your mouth in my presence, nothing personnel but you had to die
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>>182041603
>game turns into Maplestory of everyone can hit damage cap
>class who can do it the most times per second becomes the best
>wugushi rises from the ashes
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>>182041778
>wugushi
>>
>Physical dps thinking they're going to be relevant in the boss patch

Not if my 8 Nuaeles and https://tos.neet.tv/items/143101 have anything to say about it.
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>People think the boss patch will be relevant

It'll only become relevant once they add the succ card to the game
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>>182041956
>magic dps thinking they'll ever be viable outside of AoE spam in ET
kek
>>
>>182041686
>double slash
>damage cap
>on clones
HAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>182042210
poorfaggot detected
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>>182042257
show us your weapon
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Glass moles should be nerfed to be honest
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>>182042304
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>>182042361
>let's make ALL the card shit
What about making other viable instead?
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>>182042361
Yeah, it's why I'm scared of investing in them. They're literally the only viable card to use. Maybe a Chap Inquisi or Monk would use Elleganos or something, but even then I doubt it.
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>>182042304
not home right now
its a +26 black horn stage 10
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>>182042361
Glass moles are easy to get you dont even need to worry about not owning them so no really need to nerf them except for tbl...
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>>182042635
Right 8 level 10 glass moles are easy to get.

And it's not even about that. It's just that it's too imbalanced.
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>>182042595
>clones
>rapier
ummmm
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When do you go for +16?
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>>182043445
when you feel lucky
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>>182042705
I had 5 mole cards a while back and I had to sell most of them off and now I got 4 again and I already 10 one. I got so many trash cards and un openened cubes across my alts so yaeh its easy to 10 them. All you need is time and effort.
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>>182043690
It's still silver. Silver you could be spending elsewhere.
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>>182043445
when you reach +11 with a wide margin of potential left
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>>182043363
problem?
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1111226de.85.557585.114495b5.1325314155.2133455175
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>>182043896
I'm +11 with 8 potential left and the sockets open.
>>182043547
So never, got it!
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>>182044038
>Below +11: 33,84%
>Below +16: 67,31%
>Above +16: 32,69%
You have 1/3 chance to make it and 1/3 chance to ruin your weapon.
I hope you have lots of golden anvil in the worst case.
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>>182044025
garbage
no wonder you felt the need to whale it out with your pencil dick
fucking disgusting
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>>182044025
sw3high3barb1shinobi with sarkmis would be stronger...
but you know play whatever you want anon
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>>182044038
8 potential left should be enough, however, it's a risky gamble, bad things could happen. For example, when I made my sarkmis, I got to +13 losing only 1 potential, and I had the sockets open so I had 9 potential left. Then, I proceeded to fail for 9 times in a row and get to +4 with 0 potential left.
After that, it took 34 golden anvils to get back to +11.
Don't let it discourage you, I was really unlucky, but just keep in mind that the risk isn't small.
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>>182043881
Wat? I dont even reroll my cubes any more, thats how much cubes I have floating around.
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>transcending to stage 5 costs 53 blessed gems total
>530 blessed shards
>at 100k each that would be 53,000,000
>more than the cost of my weapon
>or 530 days of Saalus without token

what in the fug
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>>182044323
>saalus without token
nigga
also
>not doing saalus on 7 characters every day
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>>182044323
how new are you? this is why this game is dying
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>>182044194
You have no idea what you're talking about
>>182044271
Doubt it
rapier mastery + another slash debuff + pierce defense break for kunais
vs
higher weapon base damage + some little scaling on moulinet
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>>182044305
>>182044172
too spooky for me, I think I'll just keep it at +11
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>doing saalus chores instead of jewing silver and buying cheap shards directly
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>>182044456
>You have no idea what you're talking about
You're a retard and your build is retarded. It's no wonder you compensate heavily with gear. Any real Shinobi build shits all over that moronic build. Enjoy feeling superior in your Saalus runs.
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>>182044554
>blah blah blah I have no arguments or examples so I just rage like a baby
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>>182044323
Or you know make alts to farm saalus with or actually do something that makes a lot of money in game also
>100k shards

Must be nice to be in a dead server
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>>182044456
im a fencer3 and the armor break is pretty useless once you get enough patk
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>>182044417
even with 7 characters a day, which I don't have, and a token that'd be over a month of the same boring daily to transcend a single weapon. and now I have 7 characters that need weapons if I want to play them.
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>>182044712
not all characters need a transcended weapon, specially if you're not gonna do ET or minigames
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>>182044710
4K def bosses soon!!
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>>182044710
its not very useful now thats true but its going to be great with 4k def bosses
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>>182044712

Why aren't you counting token? You're not counting it just to make it seem longer. Also:

>hunt DPK
>500k an hour
>1m-1.5m payoff when you get the drop
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>>182044710
It won't be useless on 4k+ defense world bosses
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>>182044674
>Must be nice to be in a dead server
Are you retarded?
Shards are just like talt. Cheap shards means the server is alive.
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>>182044712
Or make a set of alts that will work with a v mace and just pass it around.
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>>182044856
>implying thats true
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>>182044964
learn how economies work you dumb eurofaggot
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>>182044964
who u quot
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>>182044821
I was counting token. 530 shards required divided by 14 shards a day is still 38 days.
>>182044782
>>182044879
I don't like alts, it makes it too hard for me to focus on one character.
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>>182044712
We know.
This is why this game is DYING HARD.
IMC does not care. They are out of ideas.
Or rather how this game died last year.
It went like this:
>Transcending soon!
>Everyone hyped for more % damage on all those fucking flat damage skills.
>Suddenly people realize how many shards you need.
>"IMC WTF ARE YOU THINKING!?"
>Saalus then was even harder, with longer runs and no convent / lake
>People see the reroll cost and fucking rage
>Realize you can't take gems out without breaking weapon
>How many shards you get out depended on fucking potential FOR SOMEFUCKING REASON
>no one even tries to gamble their transcending, despite IMC really wanting you to BREAK YOUR WEAPON at every step
>people quiet down
>tons of arming done
>whales buy every shard off the market
>rest of the playerbase just quits
>IMC completely ignores player stats / forums / opinions
>keeps this shitty system in the game for 11 months

Yeah, IMC is a shitty company and this game rightfully dead.
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>>182045146
Having a hard time to focus is a sign of autism you probably should get that checked.
>>
>playing tos
>not being mentally autismic
pick one
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>>182044794
>>182044812
>>182044823
good thing i still have 4 points in it
ill just get some green gems for my rapier
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>>182045262
It's also a sign of Schizophrenia, which I do have, and is why I play like 5 MMOs at a time. I mean, I can log on each day and do my Saalus and log off, but it'll be years before I actually get to use a weapon.
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>>182045040
>>182045041
So youre telling me Klaipeda is a dead server? Shards are 140k there and people use it in place of silver as money and there is a big demand for shards there.
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>>182045664
There is big demand for sharts any server
Klaipedia doesnt have enough poorfag plebs to keep supplying lots of shards unlike SA servers so you have higher prices
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>>182045664
Shards on klai constantly get as low as 110k.
I bought 21 at 110k just a couple of hours ago.
And there were 100+ shards at 90k 3 or so days ago, which I couldn't buy because too poor at that time.
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>start a 290 swell run
>get 2 double arti drops in 3 packs
Damn, that's a good start in the morning
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Skellies and other summons should attack whatever target the owner is attacking, like in PoE.
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>>182046058
You say that as if IMC is smart enough to code anything.
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>>182045789
Yeah because of idiots. But as soon as it drops under 140k it will get all bought ip by whales and will stable back up to 140k.
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>>182046243
>whales
I think you mean necroaccounts. I bought the 100 for 90k on my alt necro account. I buy them on that account any time I see them drop below 100k.
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>>182046243
You can buy 110k shards at almost any time because the supply is just too high, there's enough people to constantly undercut each other down to sub-100k prices.
Whales are whales and will buy absolutely anything at any price, this is why dead servers have high prices on low supply items, like talt and shards.
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>>182046402
I need to make a permanent necro to afk on my laptop.
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>>182046402
100 isn't even much at all sadly
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>>182046542
You missed out, I made a third account for a necro when the new player event and compensation shit came. It took a couple of hours to go from 1 to 317.
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>>182046717
Yep, I didn't even bother transferring them to my main account yet.
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>>182046808
I did, I didnt have the time to make an alt account back during the level up event.
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>>182047005
same boat here. Started playing 3 weeks ago just after the reset/new player event and goddamn you need a monstrous ammount of silver to be abledo to anything in this game.
Milions for weapons, even shitty ones
for armors too
attributes costs are too fucking high
gems are too pricey.
I'd undertsand in a game where doing 10m is easy for every character in every situation, but I can't farm 10 hours just to get a single recipe
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>>182047346
Brought to you by IMC and Necrofarmers united
Ruining the economy since March 2016
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>>182047346
It's not like there's any point in maxing out that stuff though, even the most "difficult" content in the game is a joke with a stage 3 weapon on a single character and the rest of the party just being Chronos.
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>>182047586
Yeah show me you clearing 40f with stage 3 lol
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Let's say IMC decides to actually be a decent company and not the utter shit it's right now and removes Necro AFK abilities.
Would the prices of everything drop?
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>>182047346
I was just focusing on my main account during that time. I came back at the beggining of may after playing or a few hours back in release after getting burned out in cbt
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>>182047669
There's no reason to go to 40F. Those weapons are marginally better than Orange ones and you only need to farm 25F to 35F for the set bonuses. Weapons aren't that good. +1 to skills is hardly fucking anything than 5% to 10% more damage for 1 or 2 good skills.

Pointless. Like a lot of stuff in this game.
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>>182047669
I'll show you me clearing 40f with no weapon or items at all on my Chrono
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>>182047696
No, bots are still around.
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>>182047696
You have to realize that people have been doing this since literally last year
Single necros have gotten over 400m and there are tons of them, multiple accounts for the same users too

You can't recover the damage thats been done
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>>182047696
Go to the oracle master and spend 2TP to see the top silver farmers, then realize that those players also have multiple accounts with similar silver amounts from AFK necro farming.
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>>182047969
>You can't recover the damage thats been done
What damage are you talking about?
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>>182047969
by the way, it's worth noting that sensate doesn't have a necro, he's an absolute madman that has spent countless hours farming orange mats on a fucking fencer
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>>182047969
every time i go to the oracle master i feel like dying of jealousy
if only my laptop wasn't so shit i'd afking there and afking in my toaster is another no-go
fuck
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>>182048029
The damage to the economy by flooding billions of silver into it
see
>>182047346
Everything is extremely expensive and unachievable by new players
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New!

>>182048160
>>182048160
>>182048160
>>182048160
>>182048160
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>>182048159
That's fucking retarded, prices are comparable to koreans' and they don't have necros.
If anything prices have been dropping a lot lately.
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Just checked the oracle master and it says that in the period of a day dina bee farm area was 240k. Does it mean per player, per channel, map? Seems rather low if it is the entire map.
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