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Peltasta butt

Previous butts >>181930815

>Upcoming changes
New Klaipeda: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-B_tfIVNl3k
Field bosses rework: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92RrTQUGbk8
Summon buffs: http://tos.nexon.com/testserver/notice/view.aspx?n4ArticleSN=69
Fishing system: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJPB7KbPk60
DPK no more: https://treeofsavior.com/page/news/view.php?n=1032

>A lot of info and details about re-balance stuff
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/ktest-ktos-class-rework-thread-important-info-in-1st-post/354628

>HG 315 Purple Weapons X Practonium Purple Weapons
https://pastebin.com/78mTQn1Y

>Latest "Patch Notes":
https://treeofsavior.com/page/news/?c=3&n=1
https://treeofsavior.com/page/news/view.php?n=1035

>Current events:
https://treeofsavior.com/page/news/?c=33&n=1
https://treeofsavior.com/page/news/view.php?n=1028
>Can I play the game now?
International version available on Steam RIGHT NOW. The Korean and Japanese servers are non-steam (Nexon)

TOS Info: http://pastebin.com/3YcrrJkd
This includes more detailed information, as well as tools, resources, patch notes and official links.

>Addon Manager (includes jTOS and iTOS addons)
https://github.com/JTosAddon/Tree-of-Savior-Addon-Manager/releases

>Database, skill planner and other stuff
DO NOT FOLLOW BUILDS FROM TOSBASE
https://tos.neet.tv/

>Extra Stat Points
http://pastebin.com/6Y3R7aYt

>Hunting Grounds locations and gear spreadsheet (all in RNG cubes now. drop from all)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1fP4G1JjL2pj6wMfpL_3o9pFWYIKpr3QnYgQ-XTfK21k/pubhtml#

>Servers
iTOS: Klaipeda (NA) Fedimian(EU) Silute(SA) Telsiai(SEA)

>/tosg/ Guilds info:
There is no /tosg/ guild in Varena, if you want one, either wait for someone to make one or roll a Templar.
If Guild is recruiting, please post in the thread.

>Klaipeda
Futureproof (ApplyAFineHorse3)
cute (Merigolds and Majiene)

>Orsha
Kotatsu (Colyo)

>Telsiai
Comfy (neshoi)

>Fedimian
CoffeeHouse (Capyba)

>Silute
Lewd (Nanaumi)
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kusoge
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dead game, dying more daily
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>>182048275
Doubting that claim, show me the prices of practos, diamond anvils and solmiki gears on ktos
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>>182048543
The only reason prices are low right now is because necrofarmers are ALREADY FUCKING FINISHED GEARING. The INSTANT something new that's worth getting comes out, it's going to cost in the hundreds of millions.
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>>182048674
You are never finished gearing in this game though
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>>182049360
Sure you are, there's multiple necronolifes with multiple stage10 orange weapons and solmiki gear. It's more like you never start gearing because the game is so fucking easy that it's pointless to even go all the way to stage10 orange.
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hmmmmm
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>>182049360
Actually you can finish gearing. Its whaling that comes after. ET is not necessary at all.
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This is by the way top necrobotters on Fedimian.
These are the people who buy every shard on the market, even on dead servers like Fedimian.
The third name also was top 1 in PvP for a long time. All weapons in full transcendence mode.
It's very easy to do and you can AFK with programs.
Maghi bots in Solitary Cells and he uses macros to stay alive.
I know this because I also necrofam there, for a while. He's always there.
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>>182049581
I thought the feather in her hat was the rope of a noose and she was hanging herself. Good thing my monthly psych visit is soon.
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>>182049773
I find it so fucking rediculous that a gaming company could not avoid such a toxic mechanic.
IMC is such a joke of a company
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>>182048160
Peltasta butt
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>>182049773
I always get the impression from these threads that Fedi has a low population but a high concentration of multiboxing autists, there's some on Klai but they're just shitters like Doggiedoo and a handful of people that are averse to actually transcending any weapons for whatever reason.
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Reminder that necro is literally /ourclass/
No other class causes so much butthurt amongst redditor/forum numales and BR shitters
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>>182049914
This is why most games have a "summons decay over time" mechanic or mechanics that force the summoner to make commands and why summoners trend toward being on the weaker side in many games, summoners of the "game plays for you" variety always end up exploited somehow.
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>>182050029
doppels are worse t.bh
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>>182049773
Unfunny thing is: That's just the raw silver.
They most likely have earned 2x that amount in Gem sales.
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>>182049975
>averse to actually transcending any weapons for whatever reason.
heh that's me
Just waiting for r9
Meanwhile I'm waiting for the necro changes to see if I maybe have to transcend a few staffs to make my necros be able to afk farm in higher level maps
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>>182047346
>>182048159
Do you actually believe you'd be on par with old players in just 3 weeks?

I don't know about your server, but the economy is much friendlier than last year for new players. Also, the game's a lot easier than last december you can't even imagine. New players had to do quests in Orsha and Klai route, because there were no HGs and the IDs used to give shit exp. R8 maps were hard as hell. Even R7 maps weren't that easy. People used to die to Red Truffles in Alemeth, grinding at Storage needed a meta party, you couldn't stay in a grinding party at Maven with shit gear unless you're a Cleric and you had to stop leveling up to prepare your anus for R8 maps. For instance, Didel Tower Shield was very expensive at that time because it was a must for many classes and Virtov was the memest meme'd meme (or you could use Grynas like me, being the poorfag I've always been).

If you're smart enough, you'll find items on high demand/low availability that are relatively easy to farm. You just got spoiled by how easy it is to reach max lvl now even with shitty gear. Now it's time to spend hours and hours to finish your main character. Be patient.

t. anon with more than 1600 hours with 10 characters (no Necros, no shops, 1 SR3)
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>>182049773
what option is that? it shows differently with me
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>>182051057
Relevator ranking not area ranking
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>>182050751
I got more hours than you from just icbt2 and kcbt3 you fucking peasant poor fag
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>>182051057
You chose wrong. That's a (time period) one. Just use your brain anon. The Inglish is shitty, but you can get it.
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>>182050751
Didel is still good right? Thinking of making one or just sticking to Aias till I can make a Lionhead shield.
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>>182051259
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Are Suurit plate pants and key arc leather gloves worth a ton or something? I can't find them on market at all.
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>>182051457
Yes, best in slot SPR gear. Have fun in the HG.
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>>182050751
well, you're actually right. I only needed 3 weeks of semi-cinsistent play to reach lvl 300.
I remeber When I wa splaying Angels Online and going from lvl 1 to 100 took something like 6 months. God i miss that game but going back after 5-6 years of hiatus seems like something impossible
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>>182051446
It costs 2 tp, I guess you don't have enough
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>>182051457
It gives spr and thus good for necro afk and shop priest.
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>>182051457
yes, it's the gear SPR builds need.
Sadly it's the same gear needed from Pardoners to jew, so you'll never ever find a decent priced one
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>>182051446
maybe play a superior ToS version
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>>182051583
eh i have more than 1tp, unless it only accepts free tp?
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>>182051345
Yes, still a great shield.
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>>182051765
next choice would be?
I now the pract shield is very good but I'm not at that type of endgame grinding yet
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>>182051837
Lionhead is extremely easy to make. All you need is pract. Ports and shit are just from crystal mines.
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>>182051837
Grinding crystal mines is not really endgame grinding.
https://tos.neet.tv/items?type=Shield&stats=ADD_MDEF&order=statd&f=1
There are the purine purple shields I guess, but they are probably very expensive.
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>>182050095
Maybe monsters shouldn't drop money then.
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>>182052036
Those pevor shields are crap though...
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>>182052227
There is lots of ways for IMC to fix it
And they know of the "problem"
Except for them its not a problem because they havent bothered fixing it
they believe its fine like that and are actually buffing necro summons even more
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>>182051974
>>182052036
I love how emengard and solmiki shields look, and of course they're the most difficult to get. Hell even sage wall looks nice but finding one seems impossible.
Lionhead looks retarded just like any endgame weapon
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>>182052036
>>182051974
no Aias? I thought it was best shield
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>>182052272
They have higher defense and magic defense than tower shield.
Still not worth over it though, unless you find a very cheap one.

>>182052437
>Lionhead looks retarded just like any endgame weapon
Equipped is not bad, you'll get used to it.
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>>182052437
It actually looks very oriental I kinda like it personally.
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>>182052559
Aias has no magic defense and lower physical compared to higher level ones, along with no CON.
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>>182052292
>and are actually buffing necro summons even more
Good. the solution isn't to nerf classes and gameplay styles, it should be to fix the game. Auto attacking classes encourage botting. For a long time bots were chaplains buffing and healing themselves while auto attacking, but no one cries to remove them or nerf auto attacks like necros. Hell, even making it so Dina farm and Demon Prison weren't the only good maps to kill things at would help. Money flooding into the economy is going to happen, quicker or slower, since you generate infinite money and money sinks aren't going to work forever. They should start by removing that silver chest from the medal shop since that's probably done more than any afking or botting in damage.
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>>182052559
>>182052732
Aias has the highest block though.
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With the upcoming summon buffs, how much can I sell Keyarc gloves for? I have a 2 slot pair.
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>>182052838
Chaplain bots still exist in the game and I have a feeling IMC is going to make Necrofarming bannable on the same patch they buff them on iTOS.

Reminder that on kTOS doing necrofarming earns you a life long ban. Their shards also cost less than 80k a piece.
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>>182053309
nice misinfo faggot
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>>182053309
Necrofarming has nothing to do with shard price, let alone lowering it. Why are you mentioning it?
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>>182053727
muh inflation
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>>182052585
why not worth over didel tower?
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>>182054235
Because purine stuff is very expensive.
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>>182053556
>>182053727
>necrobotting has nothing to do with it
>two images from two servers shown of top 3 having 600m
>there's literally 100's of necrobots
>no effect
LOL
>no effect at all
LMAO
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My lucky day, finding world bosses by luck today, dropped shit though
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>>182054291
there's been a purine shield on the klai market for 5m for like 3 weeks now
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>>182054382
Oh, that's a good price then.
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>>182054324
>Fire Lord
For real?
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>>182054324
Because you killed a shit boss that's always up and no one kills it.
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>>182054628
>she doesn't know
.... .... shake my head
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>>182054324
Saw him yesterday and I just kept walking. Why waste your time senpai
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>>182054660

If you're implying people are killing them in preparation for the update, it doesn't work that way.
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Do people buy phadas? I want to get rid of mine but no idea what they're worth nowadays.
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>Necroafking in Ktos is bannable
PLEASE BRING THAT PATCH TO US!!!
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>>182054772
uhm, I'm merely implying that ur a retard
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>>182054847
What server? Phada is only popular to min maxing whales. As for actual use Glass Bracelet, Glad Bands, and Sissel are still better.
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>>182054965
The reason it's impossible in the West is because iToS GM's log in for 10 minute per week, just after maint.
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>>182055026
But even when minmaxing glad bands are actually better.
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>>182054965
That's not a patch, it was always like that there.
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>>182054965
They wont do it to NA cause the same Afk farmers are the same whales that stick around and keeps the tp rolling in.
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>>182055158

Exactly. On my server the biggest whales openly macro their necromancer and don't give a single fuck. I've reported them several times and IMC has done nothing.
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>>182055073
Funny story, I know a few whales in game and they keep telling me glad band is shit and phada is better.
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>>182054965
Koreans aren't as impacted by botting alt accounts because they tie your Nexon account to your KSSN.

Considering we won't tie it to SSN and we handle multiple countries that way of stopping someone from getting back in after they've been banned (using the same SSN anyhow) is restricted.

That is solely what allows them to get away with this and make bans stick. Can you get fake KSSN? Hell yes, I used to use them to play kMMOs all the time, and right now I have a kNexon account hat I used for kToS cbt3 that's still active and fully mine.

Also you need the phone number, but there are ways to spoof that, but it's a lot more work and since it's actually illegal like big time illegal it's more of a risk for the person to take. I can take that risk cause I'm not in Korea, but a Korean taking that risk if you didn't do every step right is a big one.
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>>182055026
On Klai. I see two at 15 mill, they've been up a while though so might be overpriced.
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>>182055276
They're right.

If you're a whale too.
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>>182055403
Its pretty much actually the right price since dawn maidens are a pain to farm.
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>>182055438
Im far from a whale, I just know how to talk to people. My only pract item is a v mace and everything are lile regular gears
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>>182055710
I feel you dude, I ain't even got a pract weapon yet, my best weapon is Manamana+13
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>>182055879
V mace is such a solid weapon I doubt Ill get an orange any time soon.
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Redpill me on the Bokor sadhi PD build
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Does the carnival mask cover your chars face or does it sit on the head like tengu mask?
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>>182057019
Face. I think its hair 3.
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>>182056579
Don't do it, go diev1sadhu3pd2.
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>>182049581
>2/3
lewd
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Guys, I might need to build an afk farmer.
Someone that has a necro for afk could tell me how much you realisitcally make in an hour? In an area like demon prison district 2
>inb4 muh secretto spottu 20m/h
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>>182058291
Just go kill things
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>>182058049
Why
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>>182057485
it's slot 1
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>>182058387
I farm 315 orange mats on my main account while my necro farms on my laptop alt account.
>>182058291
I like demon prison 2 over bees because less people try to fuck with you there. I usually make ~100k an hour.
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>>182058291
Depends on the day and the number of people per spot but its like 1m per 6 hours on a really good day? On a spot with 2 people usually just like really low. 500k in 4 hours. Still passive income.
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>>182058431
>fade (optional)
>walk half room and put down laima, half room gets aggro'd by it
>casts prana with 20% less cooldown
>get out of fade, gas and spread aids to the other half of the room
>repeat
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>>182058431
Some extra damage from effigy is not worth losing the uptime on prana/PD skills. It's either bokor3pd2 or diev1sadhu3pd2 if you want an aoe dps build.
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>>182058049
>>182058846

yeah, not good, you loose out on hexxing/curse, it's alot of damage
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>>182058291
>how much you realisitcally make in an hour?
50k.

>>182058579
>1m per 6 hours
That's really fucking good
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>>182059243
>>182059132
>>182058846
I am confused

Is the hexing damage that big
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>>182058559
demon prison sucks though
the spaws are too scattered and if not all rooms + the passage between the rooms are being cleared there will be buildups of monsters in some shitty corner where no one goes and you'll have huge droughts
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>>182059640
bokor sadhu pd2
Hexing > Black Death Steam > Pandemic > Incineration > Effigy > Chapparition Proc > Posession as a rotation
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>>182059514
I made like 1.6m in 8 hours because demon was literally empty and I was alone for that long.
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>>182059514
>That's really fucking good
LOL
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>>182059965

That's every single map in the game. Dina Bee only works because every necro goes there.

>>182060043

You weren't alone. Someone was legitimately farming the rest of the map for you to make that kind of money.
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>>182058291
>inb4 muh secretto spottu 20m/h
I would've helped until you had to spout that retarded shit.
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>>182058579
>500k/h
That's really fucking low, not worth the effort of levelling a new char to r8
>>182060045
SECRURETTO SPOTTU
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1-5 farm mourning bird tails
6-9 play more witcher
0 shitpost endlessly while watching streams
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>>182059965
>>182060121
Solitary Cell spot works well even when alone.
Good luck finding it empty now though.
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Who do I find secret spots?
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>>182060467
Step1: go back to brazil
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>>182060372
Youre stuck in the game then.
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>>182060467
Step 2: get off my server you weeb
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>>182060038
Transmit Prana and Explosion > Hexing and Effigy
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>>182060695
Yeah fuck me
Some whale bought out all the tails and I'm stuck farming the worst dpk mat to exist
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>>182059132
>>182058846
>>182060038
What would work better in a solo-play situation?
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>>182060775
you can do TP> explosion even without diev you know?
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>>182060372
>streams
you have to be 18 or older to post here
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>>182060890
Nothing wrong with streams, I watch the all the time from my own office at work
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>>182061043
He means you're a faggot nufag who rather watches games than plays them. If you like games you play them, not watch others play them. Get out back to pleddit.
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>>182061186
I do whatever I want to do unlike you bitchboy who needs to adhere some imaginary guidelines
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>>182061186
This is not your safespace. If you feel triggered, you are free to leave.
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>>182061186
Haha what a bitch, I guess you play a lot games but most of them stay in beta like you.
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>>182061284
>>182061285
Oh look at the babbies being triggered. See it hurts to see the truth, doesn't it?
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>>182061626
This is not your safespace. If you feel triggered, you are free to leave.
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THE NEW BOG QUESTION AFTER PD2 or INQ

BOKOR SADHU3 PD2

or

DIEV SADHU3 PD2
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>>182061856
I have cleric3 for more heals and more divine might and the costume

I tried bokorSadhu and dievSadhu both in the reset event and I ended up never using any of their shit
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>>182061856

Solo 100% of the time: Bokor
ET but have a Diev in your static: Cleric3
ET but no Diev in static: Diev
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>>182060842
easily diev1sad3 because prana scaling is TOO GOOD to ignore and with diev1 you get a better uptime to it and cut cooldown to whatever you happen to use in laima's range (need to be careful because big swarms kills laima really fast)
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>>182062042
>>182062014
>>182061940
yes ok, but
bok sad dp2 or die sad dp2?
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So is this game basicly an online diablo clone? I played it to Lv. 21 so far with 1 class advancement

Also any tips on increasing performance on low-end PCs?
Right now in Miners Village Square I get 21-25fps, with a fullscreen reso of 720p
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>>182061940
costume is fine I guess. But c3 for healling is just overkill. C2 is perfectly fine
>>182062042
not worth the damage loss of Bokor1
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>>182062359
Its not for healing
its for burst on bosses
You're a dps after all
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Which Sadhu PD build variation is more popular in kToS?
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>>182062524
The bokor aka pleb one
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>>182062345
Get a better one.
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Dievdirbys 1 = Cleric 3 > Bokor 1
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>>182062345
>So is this game basicly an online diablo clone?
No

>Also any tips on increasing performance on low-end PCs?
in beta/EA we used to turn off vSync to get better average/min FPS but they kinda improved the game a bit. Not sure if that still does something, try it. and ofc all stuff off/low
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>>182062191
You can only take 1 rank so diev1Sadhu3PD2.

Like he said, better uptime on Prana, and you've also got free warps.
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>>182062824
>V sync

Of course that shit always supposed to be off because of how much it limits frames
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>>182062359
>damage loss of Bokor
dude i'd take even priest over bokor as a filler instead
in case later contents (LOL) takes too long to finish (LOL) and your 3k blessing is gone it's better to have 100% uptime double nuke heals than bokors shitty damage in case your party doesn't have a dedicated priest
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>>182063083
Diev is only good if you're soloing
In a party diev doesnt matter for you because you will have chrono
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>>182063089
retard
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>>182062359
>not worth the damage loss of Bokor1
>-20% global cd reduction
>damage loss
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>>182061856
Cleric3 is the best choice obviously, but Diev1 is second.

Bokor can't even contend fool.

Cleric3 is the comfiest playstyle of the 3, Diev is the most useful since it's a free rank you should take the utility.
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How much is a Earth Wood Goblin Gem worth?
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>>182063206
Tell me one good thing vsync does especially for me who has a $1000 144hz gsync monitor.
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>>182063186
Misinfo agents really hard at work here.
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>>182063512
vsync makes your gpu not work at 100% all the time. There's no need to render 1000 fps when you afk in town with 3 other people in it.
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>>182063524
what's the disinfo
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>>182063580
>she ERPs with 15 FPS
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>>182063580
And you dont limit it with nvidia inspector? Lmao now who's the retard.

You also forgot that I did mention gsync. If you know how gsync worked you wouldnt assume I dont limit my frames.
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>>182063715
That it doesn't matter if you are partying because you'll have a chrono 100% of the time. This might be true in ET but isn't true everywhere else, even then it's stlil useful, it's not like Pass is going to be always up, does Pass outclass it? Sure. Does it make it pointless? No.
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>>182063745
I get constant silky smooth 60 fps with vsync ( unless gvg or klai/fedi ch1), fans at 10%, no noise, no heat.
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>Advocating V-sync

God you guys are worse than I suspected.
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>>182063830
Even gsync monitors get tearing.

And the point is
>Of course that shit always supposed to be off because of how much it limits frames
Which is rarely true.
But yeah "b-b-b-but muh nvidia cucksync screen!"
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>>182063870
When talking about partying we're talking about ET
Everything else is irrelevant
There is no other party content for PD2

it's shit on worldbosses and it solofarms the rest of the game easily
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>>182063892
>he doesnt have a watercooled system

Stop my sides hurt.

>>182063992
So much salt like I said if you know how gsync worked you can make it not tear lmao.
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>scout could have been viable
https://tos.neet.tv/skills/30607
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>scout could have been viable
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>>182064248
>9 second CD CD reduction skill

Hahaha no.
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>>182064349
>wugushi could have been
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Thanks ohayou for bringing Lotus (LOL) to /tosg/
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>>182064786
>muh guildname boogieman
Thanks Cats
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Thanks beet, you were always TOSG's greatest ally (LOL).
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>>182064379
FOR THE EMPEROR!
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>>182064918
>muh namedrops
Thank you Zhwan
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>>182064032
>SadhuPD is bad at solofarm
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>>182064032
No shit, but there are parties outside fo ET and they are useful there. Considering ET is just a small portion of the content and there are tons of better people to take than you as a Sadhu3PD2, not to mention the difference between going C3 or C2 here isn't going to be huge vs going Diev1, it's a bit of a moot point.

It's optional, they do different things, and are better in different areas, but Diev provides a little more utility and more TP uptime.

Diev brings you from 60s Duration/80s CD to 60s Duration/64s CD. Almost 100% uptime. If they ever release a gem you can go 100% uptime.
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>>182065385
What part outside of ET for SadhuPD2?
You farm everything solo just as fast, and for worldbosses just bring some chrono alt instead
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>what I expected: poison immune to antidotes, ticking at 5000% of atk every 0.25s, bypassing def and spreading to nearby target infinitely
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>>182064953
Is that inquisitorial rosette chained to his massive balls?
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>>182065251
>he can't read
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What is THE inquisitor build
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>>182065695
Do you really need to ask?
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>>182065583
Its a chick, and no, its chained to her dick.
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>>182065583
>his
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>>182065695
c2 priest3 chap oracle is THE and the only one
or c2 whatever pally3 (b-buffs soon..!) whatever
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>>182065924
>>182065952
sorry, they all look like dudes in 40k anyway
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>>182066147
what server is this?
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>>182066147
*rubbing necrohands in the background*
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>>182066147
Klai
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>>182066275
Salute
5kk soon
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>>182066285
>price dropping
>necro having anything to do with it
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>>182066465
necros are very happy when prices drop
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>>182066384
>kk
fucking Swaaz, where is that wall?
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>>182066512
So is 90% of the playerbase
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>>182066703
cuz they all have necros
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>>182066703
>90%
implying we have that many players
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>>182066598
im not swaaz
and i mean silute not salute
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>>182066362
Damn and I traded 2 sissels and only got a pract, 5 shards, and 1 art for it. Should have waited.

Lost about 2m on that trade.
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>>182066847
>90% of the playerbase implies the game has a lot of players
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>>182066847
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Anyone tried the corsair3 meme?
Is it as good as it was promoted

Celfaggot need not answer this post
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>>182067161
Yes mam, 90% is really a lot and we dont even have close that much.
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>>182066847
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>>182066147
Here's Orsha
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>>182067161
And we found somebody who failed badic math in school.
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>>182067462
Wow, here's his friend who failed spelling.
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>playing a game that doesn't even have 90% of players
LOL
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>>182067462
Mis-Quoted you to link to this >>182066847

My bad
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>>182067356
>corsair3 meme
it was always good for field farming and boss drop stealing (not as reliable but there's still a chance)
might be on par with thaum meme after full dpk removal or even better
i don't even farm outisde dgs with my thaumff anymore, corsair3 and funded sr3 is where it is at
>>
Thanks for the (You)s
Im not even drunk yet
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>>182067583
Hard to do shit on a phone that is starting die.
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>>182067725
If I have to spend another hour without getting a drop at shitty mourningbirds I'm gonna seriously kill a korean
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>>182067725

I think thaum was a lot better before DPK changes and you didn't have to swell every single fucking monster. It's too much of a pain in the ass now.
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>>182067763
Quit phoneposting then, faggot.
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>mfw I find myself leaning towards Diev Sadhu PD

DO I DO IT
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What is the fastest way to level a new character to at least 120? I have 2 x8 tomes.
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>>182068727
>teenkasia
based

Yeah do it, I tested all the 3 builds and diev is nice
I took cleric3 for the costume tho
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>>182068696
I can't, I'm in a event do you think I would be wasting my time in this thread if I could actually waste my time in game instead?
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>>182068731
multiply tokens and instance clears
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>be online on time
>its 5 minutes over the ET start time
>whisper the dude 'cos he's in Solmiki
>"no room"
>starts making shit ton of excuses
>"you should talk in chat more"
>"first to PM gets in"
>"you already got your items"
fucking faggot so did 3 other people in the party
why can't people just fucking be honest and make up bullshit
fucking cliques I swear
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>>182070257
they just dont like you
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>>182070257
>is a frogposter
>expects people not to hate him and make fun of him behind his back
Amusing really
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>>182065695

Monk
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>>182070257
what the fuck are you guys even doing, don't you have a static of 5 people doing it regularly?
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>>182070257
And this is why Id rather save money and buy my lolo/miki than run it with people. No fuzz no muss. Unless you get into a clique youre really better of kirito-ing during these times. But its still better to be a nice-scumbag tjat steals peoples from cliques cause you're just that enjoyable to be with they will tend to prefer you more.
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I WANT TO PLAY AND INVEST ON MY SORC BUT THESE BUFFS ARE TAKING YEAAAAAAAARS
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>>182070894
That's until you join a party that doesn't even speak English so you have no way of actually getting to know people. Such a fucking shame the playerbase in this game is so tiny.
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>>182071021
Do it now before everything for them triples in price and you comeback and bitch here about not being able to get gears for your sorc.
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>>182071627
SPR gear already tripled in price.
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>>182071783
this is why im just waiting until the dpk patch to farm that junk
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>>182071627

I have everything already. Cards, decent windia rod, sage wall, 30 spr pants, 20 spr gloves, spr shoes, summoning gem and etc. I just need chapparitions.

but I want... THE POWER!
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>>182068727
If you don't you're a faggot unless you go Cleric3 for those SPINNING HEALS costume
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>>182055158
Funny, they're also the same fags who keep other people from bothering to play and possibly spend money on TP.
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>>182070257
What does talking in chat have to do with ET? It's fucking boring no matter what for everybody.
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>>182064349
I'll never understand why IMC got a sudden hateboner for 0CD & deployment skills, all while deciding that shit that lets you AFK is AOK.
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>>182072551
Only boring people say that. If you make it interesting for them through chatting they might bring you more because they will want to get to know you more.
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Is there a way to skip that long quest chain in Gate Route so I can have access to the lvl 80 dungeon?
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>>182073181
Just run there. You don't need to do the quest.
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>>182073181
Ask a sage to warp you.
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>>182073181
>missing 3 FREE stat points
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>>182073712
just do them at 330
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>>182074056
You know you'll never get back to that shit.
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>>182074135
there is almost nothing to do at cap. more then enough time for shit like that
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>>182074135
This is pretty much true.
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>>182074306
If there is nothing to do at cap why bother rushing to it
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>>182072863
I'll keep that in mind next time I wanna do Erp Tower.
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>>182075493
>Erp Tower
How do I enter this tower
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>>182075776
You have to get a pass from the gatekeeper or kill them
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>some retard shouts "dont come to my timerys channel!!!!" all ravaged
what's the real with timerys temple?
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>>182076067
Some faggots just think they own an entire channel.
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>>182076476
i recommend blocking that person, i only have 2 people blocked and that's one of them.
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>>182076731
that fag quit
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>2m for a tanu flower

worth it?
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>350s for weapon buff
worth it?
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Hi friends. I made the mistake a while ago of making a character on Orsha. Can I move that character to Klai?

>just make a new character
Not really to keen on starting over. Level 143 Chrono.
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>>182077615
Remake it my dude
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>2 TP to know things

worth it?
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>>182077615
You can't move it and you can't recreate the same team on a different NA server.
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>>182077615
you can't
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>>182077309
Unless you like 4k dpk instead.
https://tos.neet.tv/items/645461
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>>182077862

which collection should I do... 5 con or +1 str/int lol
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>>182077951
I'm not sure 5 con is even in the game.
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>>182078028

oh, still not implemented... well, that was the most interesting
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>>182077442
>258 is break even price
>350 is lowest you can find

am i going to have to do something about this
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>>182077309
pretty good. takes hours to farm them.
>>182077951
both
>>182078028
dont think it is
if it is.. 3 use these flowers
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>>182077309
For 3 damage?
Absolutely not
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>>182076476
No what I meant, what's so special about that map other than tons of mobs and shitty silver / gems?
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>>182078147
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dead game
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You are now remembering all the Keyarc gloves and Suurit plate pants you threw away before the HG update.
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>every hour one person quits
ALIVE
b-but that means only 9% stopped playing after the resets ended, in contrast to the 20.13% dropoff last time. In addition, before the combat rework, every month other than the initial release, f2p, and first reset event lost more than 5% of the population. These new numbers are ten times better than expected.
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>>182082537

As long as I have 1000~1500 people on my server (silute), I don't care. this is the population of a health RO server, there's no place for over 5k players in this game.
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Is this a bad build? http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/m1d1le2eum/
I just want a mobile class and Sage looked fun
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>>182083059
>tosbase
read OP, i can already say this is a bad build without checking it
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>>182083059
What's mobile about that?
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>>182083059
That build is bad yeah, not only is Runecaster a pretty meh class in general but it advises you to take Rune of Ice in spite of having zero skills that it even works with.
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>>182083356
I don't know >.> Any suggested builds for a mobile (preferably ranged) class? I just want to get started, I'm not picky
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>>182083059

wiz 3 ele 3 is a stable good build, but this one is really limited... it could work with some adjustment to better enjoy the strengths of the runecaster. Like, the only ice spell of the elementalist tree that works with ISA RUNE is the freezing sphere and he has 0 points in it, lol. the guy who made it has no clue. sage as a rank 8 filler works. not big deal, but it's more support oriented (now at c1 at least). ultimate dimension and micro dimension damage is okay at best, but really pale in comparison to warlock 2 or FF 2.

runecaster is on a league of his own in the fucked up tier idea of a class, but one thing that is surely enjoys is wiz 3, and as I said, wiz 3 and ele 3 can't go wrong together.

So the rank 8 pick is the were you need to be creative to make this work better. RC extra burst dps is okay now (rune of destruction and justice) and if you combo ISA with freezing sphere for bursts you'll do fine. So what can synergy with this build further? Sage still a okay choice and c2 might be good for dps, but one could try two new options:

1: cryomancer c1. cryo c1 brings ice pike and ice bolt, both two reliable sources of freeze and a special attribute that boosts thunder damage on frozen mobs that fully stacks with electrocute dmg attribute itself, so no more unreliable hail shit for this combo. Pike pike/bolt -> electrocute 2x (overheat buff soon). Icewall and iceblast deal okay damage even at lower levels and there's isa rune to boost it all from time to time, specially the ice blast for a higher boost.

2: warlock c1.
Warlock c1 is shitty in comparison to c2 thanks to mastema attribute but pole of agony, now with only 1 minute cd is a respectable spell and dark theurge., while gutted, still packs a punch on single target situations (which elememe kinda lack). invocation 5 is meh tier but is still something and the great synergy is in mastema.

yes, warlock c1 mastema is enough to boost holy damage so you combo it with rune of justice...
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>>182084302
> >.>
Please leave
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>>182083059
>Only 2 points in ice rune
>Fucking rune of justice
>Runecaster for a build where it poses no use
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>>182083059
pretty shitty
sage and RC are bad dps

>>182084392
wl1 is shit and worthless
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>>182084302
>Any suggested builds for a mobile (preferably ranged) class
Archers
something with Schwarzer Reiter 3
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I miss new music. They could at least add 1 new map that isn't a hunting ground.
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I just want one vienti oksinis robe to show up in the market pls.
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>>182084976
wait for the patch, there'll be tons
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https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#411222c8g.1a213a435561.12213f45516a719a.15213445.25314155617191.41657485
Find something wrong with this, but I know that you won't. It's perfect.
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>>182085223
Miko is a better support than Oracle
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>>182085223
>https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#411222c8g.1a213a435561.12213f45516a719a.15213445.25314155617191.41657485

>prophecy 1
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>>182085223
I'd 4/5 Last Rites and 5/5 Magnus, Last Rites already lasts a lot.
Prophecy MUST be maxed, drop Arcane Energy to 1.
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>>182085529
fuck off weeb
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>>182084392
>warlock c1 mastema is enough to boost holy damage so you combo it with rune of justice...
But all it does is change enemy to devil. And most mobs/bosses are already devil.
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>>182085132
That's one thing I worry about. Even if there'll be tons, people will still try to jew people for a few weeks.
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@182085223
you're that retard from before trying to argue that mass heal and revive are bad unless they're mandatorily maxed, aren't you?
fuck off misinfo RETARD
no (You) for (You)
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>>182085720
farm it then, with the 1/8 cubes it wont be hard
and if you get something you dont want, more than likely somebody will trade you
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>>182085558
>>182085607
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#411222c8g.1a213a435561.11213f45516a729a.14213545.21314155617195.41657485
I can see God.
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oracle 1 is a good pick for solmiki just because of counterspell.
But you're not a taoist so you don't get a free ride to solmiki. Inquis barely has a place in ET. Get out of here.
>>
So... Here is the best build imo were you can mix RC and elememe.

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#2111bbbh3.112f3c51667585.1f3f4151617785.15253144.13223545

It's kinda a meme build that works for dg farming, hg farming, et 35f and etc
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>when you find a blue mob with your x8 tome activated
Holy shit, I went from level 75 to 82 and from class lvl 10 to 15 in a blink of an eye.
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>>182086665
wall
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>>182086665
Sem titties
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>>182086779
>>182086793
No bully.
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>>182086665

Lindinha.
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anime tiddies
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>>182085863
>>182086520
*autistic screeching*
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Does anyone have an archer skill build I can follow? All the ones I find are supposedly shit
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>>182087206
i want to be in anime and have anime tiddies and play with anime tiddies
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>>182087684
well, anon, it's because all archers are shit
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>>182087684
A2Sap3Falc3 stockades, broom, detonate, aiming, circling pre-emptive
Now play the fucking game.
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>>182088010
I don't know what any of this means, anon
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>>182088164
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner
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>>182087814
>>182088010
chap pd2 or inquis?
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>>182088280
bokor 3 druid pd
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>>182088402
bookor is a poop, druid is a dog poop
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>>182088280
bok (for chickens) sadman (cuz life sux) DP2 (for double penetration)
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>>182088246
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#311555eee..1f4f6a.3fb5c5
Anything I should spend the extra points on?
Also thank you!
>>
Is there a reason any of you still play this game other than "IT'S KAWAII :333"?
>>
>people are falling for the chap, inquis and monk memes again
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>>182089262
yeah
when people who actually do ET realize that taoist allows you to take a break twice a day every day for the long period you need to do it to get the pieces, they'll regret going inquisitor
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>>182089179
so gawaii xDD
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What's up with these status effect pools? Is that something a wugushi does or is it just some thing IMC added only for elites?
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>>182089405

>actually do ET
>twice a day

I'm guessing you're not one of them?
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>>182089532
>or is it just some thing IMC added only for elites?
this
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>>182088995
Swift step, oblique, call, roost. Rest is pretty much whatever you want. Should probably ask someone who knows better than me if circling needs 15.
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>>182089405
>people who actually do ET
>"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""people""""""""""""""""""""""""""
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>>182089618
well yeah for solmiki floors beyond 25F is even better cause there's more afk floors and no checkpoints. I'm running solmiki on 2 characters atm, and in one of them, there isn't a taoist in the group, it's really annoying
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>>182089728
Will do, thank you so much!
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>>182089421
Is that a no then?
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>>182089405

It's a stupid comparison. You're not capping off a full support build with Inquisitor regardless. Chaplain/Inquisitor is supposed to complement a main physical melee DPS and, guess what? The most overpowered class in the game right now is a physical melee DPS.
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>>182084302
SR3
Anything with Scout that's not built like a piece of shit
Chrono

:^)
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>>182090062
I honestly think that a physical DPS cleric can't be the main DPS in an ET party, and I'm saying it for the higher floors cause in the lower floors anything works. I can't see a priest chaplain inquis carrying anything like 16F or harder
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>>182089872
Have fun.
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>>182089978
Maybe, sup?
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>>182084302
There is no "mobility" in this game. There's only 2 skills in the entire game that increase movement speed by a noticeable amount. Catapharact's Trot, and Chronomancer's Haste. All it means is that you move faster between groups of monsters where you will stand still and attack them.
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>>182090209

Where'd you get the idea they'd be carrying? The Doppel would be carrying and Chaplain's supplementary DPS is not shabby at all with Inquisitor's burn attribute and enough investment.

It's impossible to be a main DPS but you provide enough utility on top of supplementary DPS to not be a meme. My point only was that Chaplain Inquisitor and Taoist serve two different purposes in Solmiki.
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>>182090494
Blink and Teleport count as mobility too.
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>>182089405
You can 100% afk 24 and 29f if you place yourself in a good spot though.
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>>182090741
how?
>>
any swordsman is mobile

seriously, dashing is op as fuck
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>>182090590
You could literally walk the distance in the time it takes for those fucking animations.
>>
will kino's CC ever be relevant in PvE?
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>>182089405
>he needs a taoist
>he doesn't use the warp animation trick to stay out of range of mobs and afk all the afkable floors
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>>182091198
>24f
>stay at the bottom
>after 30s a poison plant will spawn
>kill it
>afk the remaining 3 minutes
>29f
>start at the bottom
>once mobs spawn aggro them and run north
>have the cleric fade
>run back to the bottom
>afk
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>>182091410
Why would it when Cryomancer's CC is infinitely better? Neither of them work on bosses anyway, so Dragoon is the only boss CC.
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>>182091498
>trick
it's technically cheating
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>>182091865
just like how using specific safe spots that break mob AI is technically exploiting bugs, but who cares
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>>182091584
what do you mean bottom, bottom of the stairs? I thought it didn't count there
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>>182091693
>Dragoon is the only boss CC
What CC does Dragoon have on bosses?
Dethrone? It roots them?
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>>182092024
No, bottom/south side of the circular area.
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>>182092037
Read the tooltip of it, my man.
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>>182092037

It lowers their movement speed and attack speed.
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So what will us, the thaumFF veyim, sell to the goyim to suck out their money when orange mats become trivial and cheap due to DPK removal?
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>>182092334
>>182092346
Meh, Chrono's slow does that too.
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>>182092361
Just save up your FF money and invest in a SR3 to farm raw silver or get a good weapon for your Necro and start transcending it so you can AFK higher level areas.
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You need 2 parchments to make a Dispeller.
You need 5 parchments to make a Omamori.

Why?
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>>182092607
I have considered it, in fact I already have a SR with +11 lolo pistol stage 0 which I made myself, but I'm not sure if SR will perform very well at stage 0. The place that is supposed to be the highest raw silver per hour is supposed to be timerys, right?
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>>182092724
get fucked weeb
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>>182092795
downside is that place has literally no worthwhile drop besides the silver
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>>182092724
>one prevents rank 1 debuffs
>the other prevents rank 1 and rank 2 debuffs
hmm I wonder why
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>>182093073
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm....

Thanks.
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>>182093056
well, level 3 gems ain't bad, even if the price of gems has lowered due to the abrasives from the events and p2w boxes
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>>182093131
why does her lower body just turn into a blob? is she half slime or something?
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>80% of my dps comes from jew buffs
>no attributes pd cucking all swordies with just with heal

He-help I can't live without big fatwhale blessing
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>>182093372
H I P S ARE OUT OF C O N T R O L
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>>182093525
>miko pd

fucking gas all retarded weebs
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>>182093525
>check costume
>check blessing
double fucking weebs i swear
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>>182093765
"I DID IT FOR THE COSTUME XD"
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>>182093525
cute!
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>>182093201
they drop gems there? not as bad as i thought then
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>>182092795

why stage 0 when subweapons are the chapest to trans...
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>>182091498
I'd like to know this trick. Would save us a lot of hassle and we could kick this worthless taoist kek.
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>>182094620
DON'T HELP HIM
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>>182094502
what else would you expect from a mentally ill who crafted 2 (two) of them
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>>182094656
found the taoist
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>>182094740

good question. nigga farms fucking 20f essences and doesn't build a rapier
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>mfw sadhu, PD2, int etc. meme
>weapon is a windia, no trans, chapsx8
>we get a 2nd PD2
>he's chaplain meme
>he has trans 5 skull smasher
>he overrides my debuffs constantly in ET25>30
>despite never even making it to DPS rank 3
<while I'm consistently rank 2, only losing to a fencer w/+16 black horn
>has the balls to tell me he's "helping me clear ET"
yeah it would be nice if you'd stop spraying those shitty poisons and shut the fuck up, mmmk? thanks
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>>182095132
don't worry, they'll make it so they overlap soon so entire ET parties can be full of PD2
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>>182095132
>Got 30 things open
>Lag cause Im uploading some shit to youtube that's hypercringe that I heard on another discord
>Choose Scout instead of Rogue somehow
>Just do the warp because I'm on autopilot after I clicked Rogue
>Can't undo

PLEASE.
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>>182095132
chaplain PD2 was a mistake.
why playing plague when you can be a GLORIOUS HERETICS ERADICATOR
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>>182095290
get fucked swaaz
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>>182095605
but I'm not Swaaz
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>>182095730
I'm not clicking that advertisement nigger.
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>>182095132
Did you at least say thanks to him for carrying your weak ass?
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https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#411222c1g.1f2f31586175.1f213f4351627296.14213545.41657485
or
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#411222c8g.1a2a345561.1f213f4351627296.14213545.21314155617195.41657485
I remember someone saying that it's hard to setup a low level exorcise into magnus because of monster limit or something, do I need more points into it?
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>>182095965
pd2
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>>182095965
Exorcise is shit.

Oracle is better if you like pvp.
Cleric is better for soloing and pve.
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>>182096130
Oracle has a niche use is some ET floors, Cleric does more damage.

Exorcise is fine. The debuff applies to 1 target per Exorcise level, so it's easier to use Magnus on groups the more points you have in Exorcise. I personally keep my Mass Heal at level 1, maxed out Resurrect and Exorcise. It's all preference outside of maxed blessing and aspersion anyway.
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>>182096365
I don't see how anyone can stand to bother with magnus exorcism, it's so clunky to use and the damage is just OK.
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>>182096521
How is it clunky? It takes like a second to do. I just like having something to do other than rebuffing and holding down Z.
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I'm going through toosneet items to make my gear wishlist. Is the database there up to date with the game?
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>>182096797
tos-kr.neet is the most up to date database, but it's in Korean.
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>>182096797
Yes. some of them are in gamefiles but dont drop/not-acquirable tho.
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>>182086665

BRs pls go
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>>182096645
>Like a second

Exorcism has cast time of 1 second, magnus exorcism 1.5 seconds. Taking ping into account it takes almost 3 seconds just to get the damn pillar out.
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>>182096797
Yeah, but some of the items in the files aren't in the game. There's a weapon that gives +2 to all Priest skills that isn't in the game, for example.
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>>182096965
Damn, that's like... a whole GCD in FFXIV.
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DEAD
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I can't wait for the 5 doctor strat 40f clears soon
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>>182100495
>Not 4 doc 1 cryo chrono
or 3doc 1 chrono 1 Single target DPS
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>>182100495
3 is over kill already
just 3 doctors a chrono and maybe some physdps cuck
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>>182100720
>1 cryo chrono
PD2 doesn't need chrono at all, especially if they are saddhu. Your haste doesn't help at all and neither does quicken. There would be zero reason to bring a chrono in that setup at all. Better support would be a thauma.
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Is Chrono needed often? They look interesting.
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>>182103118
In ET yes. Nice at other stuff too but not needed.
Its not interesting.
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>>182102831
Cryo for possession spam is great though.
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>>182103118
Its very needed
And also very abundant
Very unfun to play
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>>182103394
>abundant
That's unfortunate.
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>>182103394

>abundant

This is what people never mention about these classes. They always say "make a chrono lol" when people ask about ET viable classes and fail to realize every retard in the world already did the same thing. At one point my guild was trying to make a static and couldn't do it because there were 3 chronos and some clerics but no DPSes.
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>>182103634
>>182103479
>>182103394

Weird I always see people looking for chronos and clerics for their pickup ET groups
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M I K O
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>>182103685

Pickup groups are a little different because generally the people making them are DPS players confident they can carry with the proper support. It's different when you're trying to create a static.
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>>182103685
>>182103634
Chrono or Cleric is what I was thinking of playing too...
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>>182103771

You can gear some builds of Clerics and differentiate yourself from others. Chronomancer is so braindead and nonreliant on gear that there's almost nothing separating you from any other chronomancers.
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>tfw wanting to buy tp to make more characters
>tfw I'd need to buy even more tp to buy lenses for them

Are we ever going to have a special TP sale? Makes me miss the time when I played Dragon Nest EU. It used to have special sales every 2 weeks or every month.
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>>182102831
I'd take 3 PD2, Chronocryo and a DPS with a hard hitting skill anyway
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Reminder that with 3 PDs you can do infinite INT stacking through sadhu3
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>>182103224
Thauma makes Transmit Prana scale insanely high. Pass isn't needed when all PD2 and Saddhu skills are low CD.

Only thing Pass helps with is Transmit Prana being 100% uptime instead of having 10 seconds down time.
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>>182103691
ToS miko are shit at removing youkai though
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>>182103685
Pick up groups just need +1 person for like 1 run. Their one guy is missing for the day so they need you to fill in. They aren't recruiting you for a group that sticks.

Chrono players are often lazy fucks who get carried. They press a total of 4 buttons in every ET run. 5 if they aren't sleeping.
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>>182104261

well, you don't one lens per character, they are transferable via team storage. until you get all your favorite lens you'll be fine
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>>182104667
You don't get it. Each of my 9 characters has their own lens. This is a strict rule in my household.
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Cleric has so many build combinations. This is a bit overwhelming.
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>>182104934

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qKg37sohc4
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>>182105018
Go with what you like the most aesthetically.
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>>182105018

Cleric2BokorSadhu3PD2 - DPS cleric
Cleric2Priest2Diev3Taoist - Full Support Cleric
Cleric2Priest3ChaplainOracleInquisitor - halfway point between the two
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>>182105640
>Bokor
stop pushing this shit meme, you either take diev1 or cleric3
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>>182106148

Most full support clerics take at least a circle of diev and I reset out of Diev on my own Plague Doctor. Cleric3 is also good but Bokor is the safe option - ele3 is the most popular aoe dps in ET and they certainly appreciate Hexing.
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>>182106531
The appreciate -20% cd more.
t. elememe
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>>182107089

>most full support clerics take at least a circle of diev
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>>182107137
No they fucking don't, most take priest3 whatever.
The priest2diev2mikoTao is really uncommon.
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>>182107137
That's actually true, a typical full support cleric ET build has Taoist and 1 or 3 ranks of Diev.
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>>182107323

I think you're confused what a FS cleric is. What else are they going to get besides Diev?

>>182107371

I know, i was pointing out that FS clerics generally handle Lamia anyways.
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Hey guys, is this game worth playing at all, and be honest please. People have been telling me it's p2w, buggy, and unbalanced, but is it really that bad?
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>>182108664

>p2w
not really
>buggy
yes
>unbalanced
yes if you care about minigames
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>>182108852
Why you lieing to him like that?
>inb4 its not pay2win because theres nothing to win
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>>182108852
>>182109003
Can it be enjoyable enough without spending money, or are cash shop items way too convenient to pass on?

I'm also struggling picking a class. Do you end up focusing on one job from your class tree, or do you play each of them at a certain level, and then dump them for the new one?
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>>182109003

>lieing

I really shouldn't reply to you but I consider a game p2w when you can't enjoy the game at all without spending money - see: Maplestory, mobile games. If you don't care about minigames there is zero reason to ever feel forced into spending money in ToS.

>>182109162

The only real "must-have" is a token. I'm not going to say they're easy to acquire for new players but if you tough out your first month you can earn enough silver to buy your first token from market and you can get rolling from there.

It's about how every class you pick works together, and whether you depend on one class or not depends on the build. Generally builds incorporate synergy from all of their ranks. It isn't so much "I want to be a wizard" but "I want to be a support - do I pick the Cleric support or the Wizard support?"
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>>182109162
>Can it be enjoyable enough without spending money, or are cash shop items way too convenient to pass on?
yes but this game isn't enjoyable at all in its current state
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>>182109424
Cool, what's a token? Also if I end up fucking up my build because I'm a noob, can I respec and reroll my class, rank, and stat choices without a cash shop item?

Also, what's the edgiest class? Talking about demons, chains, pentagrams, purple fire, scythes.
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>>182109663

Token gives you an extra dungeon entry per day and 30% more exp from killing monsters. There's also some market stuff but that's not that important if you can't even earn enough for a Token.

Nope, no respecs without cash shop. It's hard to fuck up your stats though and if you get a good shell for a class build you won't need to worry about that.

Edgiest classes are prob sorc and necro but they're terrible right now. They're getting buffs soon but a sorcbro could add his opinion on that cause I have no idea.
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>>182109663
Either Warlock or Sorcerer, both on Wizard tree. Warlock summons evil spirits from the deaths of enemies which remain and do damage as well as specializing in dark damage, Sorcerer summons the shadow of a boss to fight with them and summons bats+a fire demon.
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>>182109663
Generally whatever class/build you want already has a well-synergized build that works with it, and because of which would be here.
https://treeofsavior.com/page/class/ranking.php

Look around, ask in here, use the skill planner in the OP and even your first build should turn out fine.
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>>182109874
>Nope, no respecs without cash shop

This close to dropping the game.

>if you get a good shell for a class build

What's that and where do I get it? The OP says not to follow builds from tosbase.

>>182109987
>Sorcerer summons the shadow of a boss to fight with them and summons bats+a fire demon.

Sounds boring, would I be able to make a good build with using only the warlock tree?
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>>182110245

You should probably drop it if that's what bothers you because you can't reset your class spec at all outside of very rare events. I'm the same guy who's been replying to you so I'm not doomposting, just being honest.
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>>182110245
The game forces you to take more than one class, Wizard 3 Elementalist 3 Warlock 2 is the strongest AoE magic dps build in the game so you're good there.
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>>182110383
Even if p2w shittyass BDO you get respec tokens all the time. It's so lame to spend a lot of time leveling, and then realize you're a noob and specced the wrong way.

Thanks for the advice though.

>>182110428
I don't understand these 3/2 star things. Is it how many points you've put into abilities from that class rank?

Also what's more fun and satisfying to play? A melee or a ranged class? I've been told the combat in this game is clunky.
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>>182110765
So you have 15 job levels for each "circle" of the class tree, and there's 8 circles total. At each new tier of the tree, you unlock two new classes and have to pick between upgrading one of your old classes or taking a new class. Upgrading your class gives you another star and unlocks the "circle 2" abilities, while taking a new class gives you the abilities of the new class on top of your old ones. You can't just start off as a Warlock because it's in the second to last section of the Wizard tree. Ranged is a lot easier to play but Swordsman probably have the most potential for growth overall out of the 4 class trees.
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Don't worry newguy. You have 2 options: play a cookie cutter that will surely be effective or enjoy the ride trying things by yourself.

currently we have no leveling events, but they pop from time to time. on a good leveling you can raise a character to lv 200 rank 6 in less than two days without trying to hard.
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>>182111041
Neat, so it only matters what classes I pick and upgrade, and if I get the good ones, I can't fuck up my build?

I'm looking at the class rankings, and I see a lot of support oriented builds. How are these dudes ranked so high, do they play in parties, or can you solo things as a support class?

>>182111307
Cool, I initially wanted to make a really edgy hipster build what all of these really weird class names that no other game has, but I'm scared of being useless in the end.
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>>182111479
The class rankings are by popularity; support builds are popular because many of them can solo "decently" without needing lots of gear to be effective. You'll notice that Priest is fucking everywhere; it's because the "blessing" skill adds damage that is very noticeable at lower equipment levels. This game is odd in that it's actually DPS characters that are rare and valuable, not healers.
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>>182111479
Just use your first character to learn about the game while enjoying the learning process. You'll need to play with more than one character anyway, so your main character will probably be your second or third one when you finally discover what you like playing with.
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>>182111684
>You'll need to play with more than one character anyway

Why's that? Dungeon limits or something?

Can anyone in here share a meme build they've tried? I don't have a lot of time to play, and I really don't wanna pick a shit class, not sure if I'll play more than one character, I usually don't like leveling more than once in games.

>>182111671
Would I want a support build if I'd like to join a guild (CoffeeHouse)

I'm also looking at a Wiz 1, Cryo 3, Sorc 1, Necro 3 build. Can I swap the Sorc for something else and still be strong?
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I'm currently following this build that some anon gave me, which has been really nice so far, but I realize don't care for traps too much.
What class/skills could I swap sapper out with? I would like to keep falconer
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#311555eee.4a5a.1f4f6a.213fb5c5
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Please tell me your favorite build for:

DPS
Support
"""Tank"""
for each starting class

Bonus:Call someone else's shit and explain why
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Hey guys, what's the most remove kebab build, that's also good for soloing? Something cleric inquisitor or something maybe?
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>>182112017
>Why's that? Dungeon limits or something?
This is one of the reasons. It's much easier to farm money with more than one character by doing many dungeons per day. Also, there are some builds that excel at farming something (high level crafting materials, raw money or rare items with low drop chance).

>Can anyone in here share a meme build they've tried? I don't have a lot of time to play, and I really don't wanna pick a shit class, not sure if I'll play more than one character, I usually don't like leveling more than once in games.
Cleric2Priest2Monk3Inquisitor is a well-rounded build. It provides some support, it's very easy to play solo and doesn't need too much investment to deal decent damage. You can also play with Cleric2Priest2Monk2Oracle1Inquisitor to be better at farming rare items (it'll be very useful to farm items when the classic drop rate system gets here). There's a disavantage in the build with Oracle1 though: TOO MANY skills.

>I'm also looking at a Wiz 1, Cryo 3, Sorc 1, Necro 3 build. Can I swap the Sorc for something else and still be strong?
This is an AFK farming build. If you wanna be a support, then it's better to roll a CryoChrono or one of the support builds in the Cleric tree.
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>>182113008
>it'll be very useful to farm items when the classic drop rate system gets here
Not him but what's that?
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>>182113008
>monk

I don't want to be a monk. And by AFK farming build, do you mean a braindead babymode snoozefest build, or actually AFK farming?

Also do my class picks affect my character outfit and weapon appearance? I'm really struggling here picking what to play, and the game is almost downloaded.
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>>182113370
Current system for high level materials uses a top-down DPK, in which you get progressively higher % chance of getting an item each time you kill a mob. That effect is shared between all players in the same map in any channel though, so if anyone get the desired item, the % drop chance goes back to its base value (a really low number) for everyone.

The upcoming classic system is just pure RNG. IMC announced it in the official website and there's a link in the OP for it.
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>>182112386
>killing newfags
>think it's cute being weird
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>>182113554
>And by AFK farming build
Yes, I really mean it. You just leave your character somewhere for your minions and summons to kill enemies around you.

>Also do my class picks affect my character outfit and weapon appearance?
Not your weapon appearance, but you get class costumes based on your choices and you can swap between them. You can also buy outfits in the Market from the players, in the TP shop or in the Exchange Shop (you sell specific premium items you can buy in the TP Shop or in the Market for medals, the currency used in the Exchange Shop).
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Umm guys, I saw a Runecaster class in the rankings page, but that class isn't in the list on the website. Is it a p2w class maybe? Or some super secret unlock?
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>>182114747
Its a "hidden class", totally not secret or hidden, everyone knows, and its weak and shit.
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>>182114747
There's 5 hidden classes, Runecaster is one.
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>>182114828
>weak
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_eo74qkVoI
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>token expire in less than a week
>0 tokens on market
FUCKING GMs YOU BETTER START SELLING TOKENS
IN EVERY MMO GMs SELL THIS KIND OF THINGS ON AH/MARKET SO THE SUPPLY NEVER IS 0 TO AVOID PEOPLE QUITTING OVER THIS
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>>182103691
I want a harem of Mikos.

Any volunteers?
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>>182114828
>>182114839
How do I unhide then?
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>>182115527
do some long and annoying shit quest to unlock them
search forum or whatever

check the classes+skills at https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner
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>>182112137
Would hunter be a viable replacement for Sapper in this build? I'm new to the game, so I'm not sure what skills are good/shit
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>>182115825
renewal gutted hunter, avoid
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>>182115986
Damn, I was hoping that'd work out. Any suggestions on what would work well with 2Archer 3? 3Falconer
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>>182115792
Fuck man this makes it even more complicated to pick what to play.
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>official character art looks like this, but in game models look like chibi loli faggots

I can literally never win.
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>>182116321
sapper3 is unmatchable the best option but if you really don't like it a2 ranger3 falc3 works
qs3 is good also but you really need to have sub 30ms ping
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>>182115117
>orsha
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>>182116890
No, it's Fedimian probably
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>>182116597
I definitely don't have anywhere near that ping. Ranger 3 looks good though, any suggested/needed skills I should get from it?
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Hey guys, can I somehow make Cleric, Sadhu, Plague Doctor, and Inquisitor work?
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>>182117141
Cleric sadhu pd2 is a very strong build, having all 4 of those classes would technically be possible but would basically be just a bad version of PD2 since Inquisitor is pretty dependent on your previous class picks and none of those classes support it.
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>>182116546
>game models look chibi and cute while character art looks like shit

There, fixed that for you
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>>182117438
How do I make Inquisotor without ranking up Monk?
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>>182117032
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#3444.1f21314f526575
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>>182117498
Basically the only real inquisitor bases are Chaplain, Paladin, and Monk. Paladin is a pretty weak class overall though.
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>>182117580
Thank you!
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>>182117750
use that last point in time bomb arrow, didn't notice it
you're welcome, have fun
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>Someone buys an amount of potions that doesn't end in 0
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Guys I'm going 3Cleric 3Sadhu 2Plague Doctor.

Ok?
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>>182118208
OK.
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>>182118265
How do I spend my points though?
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Wait, wait, what if I go 2Cleric 1Devidirbys 3Sadhu 2Plague Doctor?
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>>182118572
then you got a decent, kinda meta build.
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>>182118382
Max heal,safety block, divine might and a point of fade. Anything else is up to you.

Sadhu is oob, explosion, the teleport ability, possession and transmit prana

>>182118572
Also works
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>>182118714
>>182118769
Ok, I am ready. What about stats? Do you put points into str/dex/int/etc?
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>>182119009
one stat only

PD2 goes INT for magic attack
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>>182119107
Ok, what about levleing? Do I just jump in and follow quests, or check a leveling guide and grind and be more effiicient?
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>>182119009
ALL int, your main buff transmit prana scales of your minmatk so you want as much as possible on top of being a pure magic build
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>>182119159
do quests and dungeons, near your lvl
>/indun
in normal chat to see dungeon list

use exp cards when you get them

see for maps near your lvl
https://tos.neet.tv/zones/world-map

pretty much all 'guides' are old and/or fucking bullshit
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>>182117880
One more thing, I haven't been able to find any new/reliable info on what to put my status points into. Some say full dex, full str, half/half, keep your dex at half str, etc....
Any tips?
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>>182119301
It's time.
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>team name already exists

I quit.
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>>182119356
this build doesn't benefit much from dex, you can put like 42 (50 base dex total) to make barrage and oblique shot animation faster, rest str
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>>182119704
bye
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>>182119737
Awesome, at least I didn't screw my build over.
Thanks again anon! One day I'll repay you
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>it's one of those games that fuck up your display calibration once you turn them on

Fuck off stupid gook retards.
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>>182120041
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>>182119704
And nothing of value was lost
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>>182120104
Are you illiterate?
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>>182120215
it does not fuck my shit up. what you mean?
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>>182120285
I meant exactly what I said.
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>>182120349
no problems here
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>>182120437
>werks on my machine :)
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>>182120504
It does.
To bad you have issues.
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>>182120041
Wat.
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>>182120626
Learn to read.
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>>182120626
That retard meant exactly what that retard said.
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>>182120041
Are you sure it's just not FXAA messing with your eyes?
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>>182120041
Are you using a tv or something anon?
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>>182120750
No.

>>182120781
No.
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>>182120820
You sound like a nice and cool newguy. I really want to help you, did you try to just
__ FUCK OFF NIGGA __ ?
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>>182121060
Eat shit.
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>>182121271
Why are you so angry. Relax. Have cute snek.
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>>182121620
Because my shit is getting fucked up by the game for no reason.
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>>182121662
Well, we asked you what the problem is, to help you , but instead of explaining you been a jerk.
As you saw.. like nobody else has that issue.

If you dont want help, okay bye and goodluck. There are a lot of bugs and shit in/around this game
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Is this build good? Do I just max SPR?

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#41122777h.1a213a5564.1a243a4195.152a3f6a75.1355617581
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>>182122000
I literally explained what the problem is in the most literal matter possible. It LITERALLY fucks my display calibration once I start the game, is literally what I said.
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>>182121662
>>182121670
Wow, jeez, calm down. No hate, only love!
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>>182122161
And still, nobody knows whats happening. Goodluck with this buggy shit game, angry newfriendo.
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>>182122246
Well if you don't understand the issue, then don't reply. You clearly don't know the solution.
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>>182122374
We cant tell you any solution if you dont explain anything.
>it fucks up
can mean a lot. and nobody else has issues.
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>>182122453
No it can't mean a lot, it just changes my display calibration. That's it.
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>>182122374
Did you try this solution we suggested >>182121060 ?
If that does not work, did you try to turn it off and on again ?

As people said, this game is a fucking mess and bugged as fuck since launch. If you cant deal with that, go play another working proper game.
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>>182122827
Did you try not being a useless retard, and not replying to posts with your irrelevant shitposting?
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>>182122878
Naah, im fine and my game is fine, just a little bored while eating.

Actually i did try to help you some posts ago, but you keep being a fucking jerk.
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>>182122992
Are you mentally ill? Telling me to fuck off is helping me? Lmao.
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>>182123195
Instead of being a dick, why don't you post something useful like event log or something so I can help?
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>>182123195
Nope, i did in other posts. But you dont even want any help, get lost attentionwhore.
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>>182123291
Not posting shit for you, you've already shown you're unable to help, and only capable of shitposting.
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>>182123365
>and only capable of shitposting.
Welcome to tosg, enjoy.
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>>182123363
>keeps baiting replies with shitposting
>calls me an attentionwhore
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>>182123365
I'm not even that anon but okay then
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>>182117945
I always buy 33 or 44 or 55 etc
Just so I can double tap that number
ez pz typing
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>>182123291
>>182123637
Dont try dude, he does not want any help. Let him ragequit soon*tm
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>>182123785
I don't want help from useless knowitall shitposters. I already resolved my issue, and I'm also not telling you how. I hope you get it in the future and waste your time trying to fix it.
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>>182120041
>being so much of a faggot numale that you care about things like display callibration
I had to google that shit to find out what it was and my conclusion is its useless shit for faggots, on the same level as male handbags
Get the fuck outta here
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>>182124000
No problem, i got guild mates, friends and a thread to help me :^)

Enjoy this broken korean spaghetticode game
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>>182124137
>he doesn't care about display calibration

>>182124159
They wont help you, because they don't have the secret intelligence I discovered just now.

Good luck my dear dude.
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https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1111226de.3f5f7a85.354a557585.114495b5.1325314155.2133455175

Dont mind me just posting best shinobi bossing build
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>>182124000
Good for you NOW FUCK OFF
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>>182124270
They did in the past and i also helped a lot of people.
They/I are just not that autistic
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>>182124309
Make me.

>>182124369
Ok normalbro, enjoy your friends.
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>>182124491
>Ok normalbro,
Wrong.
>enjoy your friends.
I do.

now please >>182124309 new specialsnowflake guy
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>>182124597
No thanks.
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Plese ignore that fag and post your waifu
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>>182125006
>slutty waifu
But anime tiddies, better than that faggot's shit.
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>>182125006
Nice shit taste, actual fag.
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>>182116546
>loli

???????????????????

literally 0 loli in tos
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>>182125006
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>>182125006
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>>182125006
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>>182125006
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So I just got my Mergen to lvl315 and the first thing I did was buy an unappraised Pervodimas Bow since it was the cheapest. I appraised it and got 2 sockets but only 11 Potential.

Should I just sell it and buy a cheaper 1 socket Pevordimas Bow? I don't have money to transcend etc etc it yet.
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>>182126004
Dont think people care a lot about Potential, its all RNG updating anyways.

Keep and use that until you maybe a 315Purple?
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>>182122129
It seems like some spells or at least "Heal" scales off of HP but the others are SPR?
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How does a diev pd build spread aids without the bokor?
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>>182126990
You mean incinerate right? Laima has a debuff, tree is also a debuff. You spread aids by pandemic
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>>182126990
dumb
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post cute
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>>182129326
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>>182129326
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reminder that this thread is about butts
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Can someone tell me a fun archer build?
I tried making a QS3 some time ago and that was the most boring shit i've ever played.
Are all archers like that or it's just that i made a horrible decision with the class?
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>>182124298
>best bossing build
>doesn't include armor break
You fucked up.
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>>182130325
>she doesn't have a Lancer gf to provide armor break for her
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>>182129721
This picture always tempts me to make an alchemist. Well, and the alch outfit itself.
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>>182131245
Make one and then sit on my face.
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Any benefits to being in a guild? Also, I picked mouse movement, but the game told me it's not good for a cleric. Am I gimping myself?
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>>182132385
1. No, only if you're in the clique.
2. Just b urself.
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>>182124298
Crossguard can't be used in that build
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Equipment for a Cleric Circle 3. Use the item to wear it.
-Changes the effects of Heal.

What does that mean?
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>>182133591
Circle 3 costumes add some visual effects to certain skills or animations, purely aesthetic.
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>>182133591
It means it just changes the animation.
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>>182133706
>>182133673
ok k, so no real reason at all to choose c3 over diev1 before going sadhu PD
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>>182133870
I dunno man, Cleric C3 costume is pretty high tier in the looking cute endgame.
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>>182133445
>what is weapon swap
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How come this game is so dead, and isn't the next big thing, considering all the cool classes, the cool class system, the cute art style, the fun combat, and shit?

What am I missing here?
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>>182134239
>weapon swap this much
How to spot a shit build
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>>182133706
Are you cleric3-priest3?
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>>182134713
Cleric 3 Priest 3 Chap Inquisitor
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>by the time my guild reach lv14 Practonium will be around 5m
Fuck
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>>182134747
How is it?
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>>182134429
Launch was handled absolutely abysmally, probably a combination of IMC's ineptitude and there being way more players than they expected. But 90% of those players were lost forever.

Nowadays content updates aren't all that frequent, but people get fed up with unresolved issues, as all MMOs go.
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>>182134132
woth fucking jews candle all over and no other skill benefits from c2. NO THANKS
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>>182134796
>ineptitude and there being way more players than they expected.
>But 90% of those players were lost forever.
This seems to be a recurring theme with MMOs the last couple years
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this shit'll be done downloading in like 10 minutes
tell me what classes I need to go to become a debuff god please
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>mfw waiting for patches
think I'm gonna take a break from July until October. Let the servers dry out without me.

>>182123474
anon if you're somehow still in this general after all that retarded abuse let me tell you something about /tosg/

There's 1 or 2, maybe even 3 faggots in this general who argue over small petty shit for no reason. It's either passive aggressiveness or just mental retardation. I think it's mental instability, some newfag from plebbit who tries hard to fit in and who thinks 4chan is a place where you act like the biggest insufferable faggot imaginable and sugarcoat it with anime images. They'll act aggressive and then call you one. It's childish and retarded, don't waste your time replying. This individual has been shitting up this general for over a year. He's a sad, pathetic and lonely NEET faggot, and bored of this game so this is all he has left for him is shitting up this general daily.

About your settings issues, try looking into the folder where is installed. Should be a configuration file. Delete it and let Steam redownload it. If that doesn't work if you have Shadowplay installed it might have settings that fuck you over. If it's none of this, then your screen might be adjusting to the color balance of the game so look into your screens settings and turn off anythiing resembling "game mode" or whatever.
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Why do people choose c3 in their builds? For heal bombing or what? It's overkill, c2 will do the sameresult and leave a rank slot open
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>>182134906
I haven't seen a case as tragic and extreme as ToS though.
http://steamcharts.com/app/372000
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>>182134994
Some MMOs have non-steam clients and don't appear on the charts. Black Desert for example has the shittest servers I've ever seen and only got worse upon Steam release
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>>182134429
This game is pretty average. Being dead is a meme. Or rather most mmos are dead except the big few.
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>>182132385
There's no benefits being in a guild unless you're personal friends with leader.

Mouse mode is fine, but can get frustrating to use.

>>182134949
>forgot my image

>>182134429
The developers are very shitty and ruin their game constantly.
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>>182135085
>Black Desert for example has the shittest servers I've ever seen and only got worse upon Steam release

Fucking lmao that's not even possible. The game would be borderline unplayable in that case. No way the servers have gotten even worse than they were.
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>>182134780
It's ok, kind of boring to play
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>>182135612
What status did you max? CON?
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>>182134994
Get a load of Warhammer and Age of Conan. Rift also died in a hurry but it's hard to call that tragic since nobody cares about it. Everquest II had a slower decline, but it's still very disgraceful compared to the original game.
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>>182135838
Wow, jeez.
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>>182135838
The Warhammer and Conan drop is very saddening to look at
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>>182135612
you too have to cast buffs every 30 secs?
Only regret about going chap oracle inqui myself
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>>182135838
>Second Life
>it's not even a game, just a virtual porn game
So the best way to keep players in an MMO is make them not have any gameplay?
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>>182135838
>second life
what in the fuck
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>>182135392
It is unplayable, especially on weekends. I've had delays of 30 seconds to a minute, IN AN ACTION GAME.
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>>182136183
>weekend or node war
>Click warehouse storage
>game freezes for 60 seconds while everyone moves around you
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>>182136112
Yeah.
>>182135730
SPR.
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In the sub-150k class, it's a graveyard. Some of these put in data points at 0 players and some others stopped showing data but shut down later. The only one that launched into space was Star Trek Online:
>In January 2012, it relaunched with a tier of free-to-play access available.

>>182136135
>>182136143
>fuck
Fucking is an endgame people never get tired of. It's an underserved niche and there's not enough companies with the balls to do it. We'll probably see a major breakout sex game among the second generation of VR.
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tfw these pathetic stage 4's can't get me excited any more, someone show me a stage 10 spear please.
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welfare chrononigger sluts.......
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>>182137042
>porn
It's more about the social side of SL.

Social connections keep people in a game longer than anything else. You can add dungeons galore, but if a player makes no friends, no connections and has no social interactions with other players for prolonged times = they quit. It's just a fact. We're social animals and we yearn company from time to time. If you spend a huge chunk of your time in a game like this and it doesn't fulfill one's social need to interact, they leave. Same applies to everything. Even chat rooms / discords / forums etc. In TOS you hardly ever talk to anyone. You're too busy with your TOS "work" that you have no time to.
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>>182137779
It's weird because as the "need" for better gameplay/combat is implemented, the harder it is to communicate while actually fighting shit. At this point it'd almost be better to ship a game with a microphone and have voice chat in parties.
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>>182137779
You can get your social fix from real life or other places, like the clique. Then you act like every other player in the game is an NPC and give them the cold shoulder. That's what I do anyway and people I know. Get a real life social circle. Internet friends don't last very long.
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>>182139089
who hurt u bby?
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>>182136135
When will people finally realize sandbox is the superior mmorpg. Just look at Eve in that chart too.
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>>182139149
No one.
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>>182137710
sauce?
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>>182137042
>>182135838
are there any charts like these for non-western mmorpgs?

>>182139089
>Internet friends don't last very long.
>Forgot about real life friends after high school
>Known internet people for 14+ years
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>>182139417
>Forgot about real life friends after high school
>Known internet people for 14+ years
anon...
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So to get a guild invite, do I just whisper the designated dude from the OP?
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>>182139817
I'm the same way man, I've been playing MMOs and coop games with the same online friends that I started raiding with in vanilla WoW. I'm the only one that still plays this dumpheap, and everyone else has their own games, but when we're all on we'll go be assholes in BDO or do some M+ dungeons in WoW.
>>
Tajtanas Plate set vs Suurit Plate set
discuss
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>>182139975
You need at least 50 talt to join one of the guilds, and also make sure you keep up the talt donation quota or I'll have (((THE CLIQUE))) remove you for someone more productive.

Ignore that, it's to trigger CnL. Yeah you just whisper one of the people in the OP.
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What's the fastest solo leveling way?
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>>182140048
Discuss what? How retarded you are?
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>>182140478
The p2w way: reset and multipliers all day every day.
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Someone on Klai bought all the cards under 100k.
FUCKING WHALES WHY DO YOU HAVE TO RUIN THE GAME'S ECONOMY
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>>182140619
suurit is better, no need for 150 more phys defence when you can have 30+spr>>182140048
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>>182140645
Based Lotus.
Time to sell my shadowgalers
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>>182140854
why would someone do that?
I mean , I see no advantage in trying to raise cards cost
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>>182140645
Just have 10 characters and run 50 dungeon 30 times and voila, 30 cards for 30k a piece or 0 silver. Silver and gold bars you get pay for the rerolls most of the time anyway.
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>>182140636
Non p2w way? Currently grinding Tenet Garden and bored as shit.
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>>182140951
>raise cards cost
You need cards, you buy cards.
Why do people think it's always about manipulating the market.
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>>182141049
yeah I get the selling part, but why would someone buy all the cards for 50k or whatever under 100k?
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>>182141140
To level up their Glass Mole or Chapp or Templeshitter?
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anons I have a bunch of characters which I played before leaving for a long time, which ones can I save? and the one to max out?

archer1>qs3
swordsman1>highlander1>barb2
swordsman1>pelt1>hop2>corsair2
cleric2>diev2
wiz3>elementalist1
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>>182141140
Lazy. When you have 400m you don't care about wasting 1m or 2m to get one card to level 10 quick. If you ask me, he was leveling a Necro/Sorc/Wugu card to 10 for his alt.
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>>182141497
cleric2 diev2 into diev 3 miko taoist might be the only one worth saving sadly...
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>>182139975
come to sea! talt donation is optional <3
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>>182141497
That qs3 into a wugusgi 3 can work, but it's shit damage.
Wiz3-ele3-warlock2
Cleric2-diev3-miko-pd2 can work, but just know its not the optimal pd2 build

I got nothing for your swordmans, maybe barb2 into a fencer somehow
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How much silver does a token cost? I can't find any.
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>>182143861
4m on klai
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>>182143861
Fedi boiz represent
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>>182144243
Is it a 30 day thing?
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>>182144247
Don't joke about it
Fedimian didn't seen any token on market for 2 weeks already atleast
And mine expire soon
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Can anyone with a cannoneer give me the lowdown on where to put the points?
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>>182144517
SPR because spamming 300 SP skills sucks AIDS
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>>182120041
Are you using displaycal? Didnt you set it up to persist when a program is ran?

>>182124137
As somebody who has a $1000 1440p monitor, it's a stupid idea not to calibrate my monitor. Oh also I work with videos so I have to be in the industry's standard so I don't look like an amateur.

But if you have a cheap emachines monitor it's very understandable why you don't see why monitor calibration is important. Also the better color is noticable when watching porn.
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>>182144497
>didn't seen
typical fedicuckoïd
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Long shot, does anyone know how the percent damage reductions of guardian Saint and stone skin interact?
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ALIVE SERVERS!
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>>182144497
Nah I bought mine 5 days ago
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>>182144582
I meant more the skillpoint allocation
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>>182141083
Why tenet? If you're over 150 do demon prison district 2.
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>>182144843
>>182144582
Mostly I want to know if Bazooka is worth taking, due to replacing kneeling shot(circle 3) and having a minimum range.
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>>182145167
Sorry man, I don't know anyone that plays Cannon because of the SP costs for poop damage anyway. Archer life is not an easy one.
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>>182144290
yes
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>>182145036
I'm 68 and a noob. Some guy told me to do tenet, and I'm bored out of my mind currently.
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>>182145167
If only I was at home I can probably help you cause I got a friend who is a cannoneer and plays it alot and tells me that the class is pretty fun. He uses it for bossing and shit
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>>182141497
QS3 can go into SR3, its a little worse than R3 but honestly not by much
im guessing you were going doppel build with your swordie, you can still do that. Being barb3 over high3 isnt going to ruin your life
Elememe is doing just fine, keep going with that
Can try to make the diev Cleric2 Priest2 Diev2 Oracle Taoist as an ET support build
Corsair is probably most likely to struggle, you can still make it Corsair3 Shinobi, but Sword3 is ideal
If any of that sounds shitty, then reroll it
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>>182145547
Honestly if youre new I would just say to just do your story or should be running tje 50 dungeon. Don't rush yourself with your initial character and get used to how the system works so you can leverage it later. The 50 dungeon could have jumped you to 70 pretty easily since at 68 youre not really getting any real exp from pantos and mallardu.
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>>182145994
I don't want to do quests. I want to grind.
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Is going ranger3 instead of appraiser acceptable for SR builds? Appraiser quest seems like a huge pain in the ass
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>>182146357
Go to Royal Mausoleum Workers Lodge and the lower floor, the Contructors' Chapel. Is a good spot to grind until 100 or so. There are 2 mechanics, one in each floor, that you can activate to make a ton of monster spawn without having to move much.
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>>182146419
Yes, appraiser is mostly used for the +3 buff to offhand if you upgrade to +11 or +16 is mostly the same.
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>>182146576
How do I get to Feidiman from Klaipeda?
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>>182146357
Grinding in this game is retarded and some questbthat you are skipping give free 3 stat points and the exp cards give more exp per mission and 100% map exploration than actually grinding sub 100. I can honestly out level you in 1/3 of the time just from using cards that I got from spending time exploring the maps with my first character.
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>>182146942
You get a sage to warp you or you do the gate story or you walk from orsha.
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>>182146357
You think this is some sort of GAME? Get to your fucking chores fagmo.
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They should just make a fucking season league server. It's basically funnier to play like that compared to how the endgame is.
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>>182148165
As long as I start at 330 with all the gears and the only thing to worry about is pvp builds then sure.
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>>182148165
Fucking this. It's just like PoE. There's no end game. They need to make gimmick / race timed leagues.
The issue is that there's nothing to grind, there's no build variety and there's no itemisation.
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>>182148165
Seems kind of pointless since the only way to level effectively is dungeons and missions, and the amount of blessed gems required to do anything is literally impossible for a single character. What would we even race toward? Who can stop playing the fastest?
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>>182148487
>Who can stop playing the fastest?

Pretty much. It would stay the same, game bleeding out players because they reach max level and realize there is no game.
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There is an end game the problem is that Solmiki, ET, and Fantasy library give fuck all rewards compared to beating on trash mobs in the field so you can't really get people to do them.
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Why do SR builds choose Ranger as rank 3-4-5?
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>>182148618
>you level your pants so you can get better pants
>In the end, the true end game was ERP AFK in town like RO.

Wow, now I finally see. Truly a masterpiece by the creators of Ragnarok Online...
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>>182148618
B-but Solmiki gear is 2% stronger than 315 HG gear and the weapons are 5% stronger than 315 Orange weapons! If you have all the pieces for the set bonus
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>>182148705
Cause everything is a filler and that ranger skills work while mounted.
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>>182148618
The problem is that Solmiki, ET and FL are just boring, mindless daily grinds.

This game was never meant to be competitive or skill-based. Everything is just too clunky. Even the simplest of "don't stand in fire" mechanics can't work in ToS because of how sloppy, imprecise and approximate everything is (positions, desynchs, hitboxes, etc).
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>>182148815
>2% stronger
>Solmiki leather gives 800+ attack
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>>182148815
Is it really? Even though the 315's have almost no stats on them and their def and mdef values are like 100-150 points different?
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>>182148880
quarrel shooter would be a better choice imo
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>>182148815
>the difference between +11 stage 10 Solmiki Staff and +11 stage 10 Regard Horn Staff is 1k magic attack
>Solmiki also needs 50 extra blessed gems to transcend
>and is more expensive to enhance
>and you have to reroll those Solmiki cubes to get one

Doesn't seem worth the effort really. It's kind of sad because the Solmiki weapons look really cool, but I've never seen anyone wearing one.
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>>182149208
That's because you and all western shitters are massive casuals
These games are not made for poor and mentally weak cucks like you, they're made for the korean super gamer who spends his life working in his job, coming home and then working in the game until he sleeps, everyday 24/7
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>>182149962
Yeah because Solmiki is super difficult.
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>>182148815

For MATK classes I agree Solmiki gear isn't worth the time, as the pract accessories+4 piece lolo (which you can easily buy) is almost as good, but for physical DPS Solmiki blows any other option way out of the water.

The weapons are a meme though.
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>>182150061
It's not about difficulty you dumb fuck
Its about having the mental fortitude to grind daily for months the same shit over and over and over to get the best possible items in the game

For you its
>too much
>not worth the effort
>only 1k difference
>wah wah wah

For the koreans its normal, thats why people already have solmiki weapons there and we will never have any here until they release the next set of ET floors and give out symbols again so the north american casual will finally find the time to grind out the last boss like it happened with Lolopanther
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>>182150263
>waste hours every day doing some boring repetitive chore
>get that sweet sweet 1k damage
>now I can......
>uninstall
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>waste hours every day doing some boring repetitive chore
>get that sweet sweet 1k damage
>now the chrono in my static party will finally notice me...
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>>182150417
Most of you neets waste hours everyday anyways in this game and dont uninstall
lots of hours even, so many hours that people have like 4k+ hours in this game within a year
but you're all too lazy to actually put in some "effort", with the effort being to commit to this boring chore
Instead many just fuck around, idle around, be lazy, make another alt and complain there is no endgame
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>>182150612
Hee hee, what? Only your weapon is transcended? Baaaaaaka. Come back when you have at least your top and bottom armor transcended.
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>realise you are a worthless healcuck and no matter what weapon you have chronos will never show you dem tiddies
>uninstall...
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>>182150841
Stop teasing and give sauce.
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>>182150841
I'd rather fuck a healslut than a chronoslut
At least healsluts are comfy and have big tiddies
Chronos are flatchested and bitchy
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How can I make a krivis work?
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>>182151410
Krivis 1 > Pardoner
Make and sell daino scrolls.
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so where does one get a pre made build?
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Hey kid, wanna /ss/?
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So if I make a cyro chrono I can skimp out on a weapon and still be invited to et?
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>>182151623
yes but since there are so many others like you you need to at least look cuter than them to be picked so invest in hats and costumes
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>>182152354
>cute costumes

Say no more senpai. Thats what I'm all about
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Why do they only fucking make hair accessories for slot 1? It's almost impossible to have more than one hat showing without it looking stupid as shit because there aren't enough hair 2/3 to round out the outfit without crutching on "Sugoi kawaiiii glasses and aminal ears"
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>>182153185
What would you put there besides animal ears?
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>>182153334
That expensive flower branch :^)
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>>182151410
Sell Daino scrolls. That's it.
t. Someone who liked the costume too much and made every possible combination.

Int is dead due to how unreliable Zaibas is due to shitty devs. Doesn't help Blessing makes every multihit so much better. No point in arguing damage either since multihits got dethroned as best damage.
Spr is a meme that IMC uses to misinfo people. Zalciai is pathetic, investing 3 ranks for it is terrible. Tried Druid with all the crit stuff, tried Chaplain, both were shit.
Daino is better to buy scrolls. Aukuras is a fucking joke, heal is pathetic. -ticks is unnoticeable. AoE is meager. Cooldown is out of this world and same about it's duration. -debuff duration is a hidden smaller AoE around the fire that nobody will clump.
Stigma is deceitfully good (str/int scaling abilities, druid/chaplains), but lack of scaling hurts any chance it will be good. Keeping it up is annoying, several times it doesn't latch, latch on the wrong enemy, sometimes it's boss rush dungeon and sometimes they die before the projectile latch which just pops cooldown.
Melstis is a fucking joke after the nerf.
Doesn't help that cleric2 is such a top choice and Priest or Sadhu became so amazing. Right now the only people I see going Krivis are either newfags or Daino bots.
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>>182153185
Why does slot 2 overlap slot 1?
I hate how it usually looks better to just wear one hat because slot 2 retardedly floats over the first hat.
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>>182153704
It's sad, Krivis can't be useful because IMC is too afraid to make buffs without 100% uptime, and even if they did Krivis would STILL be useless because Chrono can take -25 seconds off the CD instead of adding 20 seconds max to the duration.
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>>182153512
>expensive
kek i got mine on first try
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>>182153904
I also know somebody who got it in the first try. I brought him to the place. Well at least I got mine now so Im happy now.
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>>182153704
You didn't try Krivis PD2!
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Whats a good class and build for a beginner who only played a bit during the beta?
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>>182154717
just b urself, everything is viable
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>>182154761
>everything is viable

This is such a lie
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>>182154940
Why? It's not like there's any endgame competition or content at all, and you can level as anything.
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>>182154940

The only completely unviable classes right now are Krivis, Pyromancer and Wugushi. If you pick any other class and synergize your build appropriately you can do well (with enough investment). Obviously a Doppel is gonna blow out other swordsmen with less investment but that doesn't make the other swordsmen unviable.
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>>182155001
>Hey guys I'm looking for an ET group can I join your last spot as DPS?
>Whats your class?
>A3Scout3Mergen
>LOL
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>>182155320
What about Kino? What does it even go with? Are you stick with cryo 3 memebuilds?
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>>182155365
>doing ET
LOL
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>>182155479
>playing the game
LOL
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>>182155435
kino isn't great for PvE, the biggest reason to play a kino right now is for PvP but the state of PvP isn't great since world PvP is non existent due to neutrality and GvG was removed so all you have is TBL which isn't great.
If you want something similar make a cryo 3 chrono 3 sage but keep in mind that it's a support that doesn't really deal damage and most people go full con with it
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>>182155435

Kino is broken in minigames. There's a couple other classes that suck in pve but are great in minigame that I didn't count. The 3 I listed are incredibly far behind the curve in any area of the game.
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>>182155583
oh, I forgot to mention, the issue with cryo chrono is that they can't play alone very well, beyond a certain point solo questing will be hard although right now it's not really much needed and most people just do dungeons, siaulai and HG grinding and that's enough to level, but basically it'll be hard to do anything alone later on so I hope you have friends or you can join a guild
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>>182155583
What if I want to be a psychic esper and not mr freeze? What has kino 3 and sage?
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Hey guys, where to grind at lvl 100?
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>>182155812
Wiz3Kino3LinkerSage
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>>182156023
Wiz3 isn't needed for Kino anymore, they have a built in surespell via attributes.
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>>182156376
I know but Magic missile is great especially with linker in it

Try offer something else in comparison with the criteria in mind
>esper build without cryo
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>>182155845
Quests and Dungeons near your lvl.
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>>182156601
No grind spots?
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Depends on your class
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>>182149962
>>182150618

>spending hours grinding in a videogame, calling it "dedication" instead of actually improving yourself.
You worthless subhumans should be eradicated from this world
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>>182156740
Nothing good+fast under Lv200.
Maybe try lower huntinggrounds if you really want, but Dung+Quest is faster before Alemeth (200-24x)
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>>182156862
>my hobby is better than yours
Tell me about it anon
What drives you in life? What are your hobbies and freetime activities?
Some people enjoy to play videogames, what do you do with your life?
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>>182156862
why are you here
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>>182155845
>>182156740
And if you dont know yet. Do mission in Klaipeda after lvl 100.
Que for Siauliai
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>>182156862
Why are you so upset? I work out 3 days a week, my job is online but pays pretty well without much input, and I grind on shitty MMOs while working. No need to be upset, friend.
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>>182156740
There are no good grind spots after 100
You do dungeon missions and quest, do you think this is RO or something? It's a straight line themepark,literally one possible questing path and you do Request Center Siauli mission 3x every day from 100 to 260/300
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>>182156862
>/Video Game Generals/
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>>182157118

>my job is online but pays pretty well without much input

IT with a remote workstation? Also stop giving the bad troll (Yous) you tards.
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>>182157226
I'm an online teacher/tutor for a local college.
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>>182156740
Don't listen to the shitters telling you its bad
They still live in the old patch where grinding was really shit and gave shit experience
Now its actually good and you can technically grind yourself faster than with quests

HOWEVER, you either need a party for grinding which no one does or you need to be a class with huge and fast AOE clearing
But that doesnt exist at this level so you're basically fucked
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>>182157334
A Math PhD?
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>>182157341
It's good 1-100 because the mobs had buffed exp
But after lv 100 no bonus and some good place like alemeth were turned into trash
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>>182157118
>Hi I'm le passive aggressive nu-male cuck of the 21st century
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>>182157341
>HOWEVER, you either need a party for grinding which no one does or you need to be a class with huge and fast AOE clearing
>But that doesnt exist at this level so you're basically fucked
And that is why we tell them to spam dungs+missions+quests like everyone does.
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>>182157417
Yep.
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>>182157494
What part of my post was aggressive? I'm pretty sure it was all passive.
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>>182157735
>all passive
like the faggot you are :^)
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>>182157735
cool post
here is your sticker
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>>182157946
Woah, rude.
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