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Old Thread: >>181881123
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Thats my cute mom.
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>win 7 in a row
>lose 7 in a row
I JUST WANNA CLIMB FUCK
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>>181911308
hey atleast your not losing any points that's a start
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>>181911125
Titty's monster husband is a shit. I bet he has a little cock too.
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https://twitter.com/earman178/status/882997943388651521

solve it shadowbabs
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>>181911150
Would rather have a functioning game so I didn't have to compare relative shit sandwiches desu kohai
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>>181911381
unga bunga shadowbab.
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>>181911381
Pass turn.
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>>181911381
>https://twitter.com/earman178/status/882997943388651521
Is this supposed to be hard? If you can't figure this out you're fucking retarded
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I understand the hate on blood and haven but why are you guys complaining about the neutral package? It is viable in every class and can use the cards in every class even the legendary Alice, so you don't have to spend a lot of vials to make all the class working in one expansion. It is the ultimate non Jew expansion. Are you not entertained? Is this not what you are asking for?
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>>181911381
>https://twitter.com/earman178/status/882997943388651521
>Profile image reminds me that stratos is STILL banned
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This shit feels good
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>>181911629
Kills class identity. It would be like if every deck in MTG was an affinity deck.
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>>181911380
much hotter than isabelle herself

she doesn't deserve him
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>>181911629
It's a retarded stable for forever meta.
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>>181911629
I pick dragon so I can play dragons, not fucking goblins
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>>181911629
No, it's the ultimate jew expansion because you need new cards you don't have to even compete.
At least in TotG and RoB meta you could get by with cards from past sets. Do you think neutral won't be nerfed or power creeped in the next set or two? Are you retarded?
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>>181911662
Fuck off, herobab.
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>>181911629
It is beyond viable. It is the best option most classes have, so it ends up killing class identity. It also makes a year of cards feel meaningless too. Plus, I'm not sure on it being all that inexpensive.

>Three Grimnir
>Three Alice

Almost every class has a legendary right now based around neutrals, or at elast are running a bunch of golds like hecter too. Decks being stupid expensive used to be a really unusual thing in this game. It wasn't until Bahamut that they started adding a bunch of legendaries that had to be auto triple includes or you would never win with that deck. Before then it was mostly Control Blood that was expensive
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>>181911872
>Before then it was mostly Control Blood that was expensive
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>>181911835
>current neutral power creeped instead of nerfed
scary thought
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>>181911617
Suicide skele, demon, owl, that 4/4 then Andras?
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>>181911617
The ching chong is telling you the khawys has a poison apple of rebirth on it
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friendly reminder that lion is bullshit
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>>181911978
>tfw 3 Otohime, 3 Aurelia and a Tsubaki or two used to be an expensive deck
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>>181911978
Oh shoot I forgot about Control Sword. Classic Control Sword was super expensive too.

>Olivia
>Lucifer
>Alexander

Just to name a few. That being said, it was rare to triple include legendaries outside of a few core ones like Forte and Mary
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>>181911701
>Vampy boobs
False image.
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>>181911872
>Alice go first
>you manage to survive
>Grimmir because she went first
>anyone playing Alice isn't allowed to lose because they are saved by a fucking miracle every match
>Albert
>Council
> 8/9 Spawn
>Tin Soldier
>Oz: Broken
You get to avoid every cancer to be unfortunate enough to get matched against Oz.
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>>181912109
>>181912119
still super easy. just pass.
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>>181911381
I like how that guy made up a trivia even though the easiest solution is to pass
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>switch from Spawn to a control deck
>it takes something like 3 to 4 times longer to finish each match
>this means the same win rate will have me climb nowhere near as much as Spawn would

This has always been the issue with strong aggro. People will always pick it on ladder because it is way faster. I just want to make it to Master rank so I can stop caring about any of that stuff and just playing fun decks
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>>181912176
>soccer mom being 3x auto-included since standard
but why Mary?
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>>181912157
>tfw started 2 months into DE and wanted to eventually craft a midsword deck
>pre-builts come out and buy 3x of sword
>finally about to move up from banner sword
>otohime instantly reduced to meme status
still hurts
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come on, i just want to complete my dragon mission
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>play against blood
>go 2nd
>they tove into goblin leader
>turn 5 Baphomet
EVERY.SINGLE.FUCKING.TIME.
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>>181912458
Spell, 2p conditional activation

Add Ultimate Reaper to your hand and rescue 10 cards from the Shadow realm.
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>Wood of Brambles countdown is 2

So close.
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>>181912212
she stuffs bloodkin there
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>>181912491
>stop caring about any of that stuff and just playing fun decks
>10k min to reach Great Master
>stop caring and have fun
Hahaha
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>>181911629
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>>181911629
Games being decided by 2 drop, into Goblin Leader, into Alice going first is not interesting, and it outclasses all other aggro decks. When that is the best option for every class, they're essentially all the same with the exception of whatever class you picked to have option to your few tech cards. Tove, BKB, and Baphomet/Spawn are obviously better than what other classes have to offer.
If the Vampire cards are nerfed, people will still play Neutral with whatever class fits them the best. Due to such little variation in deck building, games heavily come down to who goes first. Goblin, Feria, Lyrial, Grimnir, Goblin Leader, Alice all being run at 3 of is common in most neutral engines. That's already more than half the deck. Cards like Unica, Khaiza, Teena, Feena, AotW, and Merman then come in depending on if your class needs Neutral cards in hand, you want to be more aggressive, need more 2 drops, etc. At this point you're just including the absolute best cards a class can offer and/or the Neutral support class cards.
It takes the viability of almost all other decks out of the game, adds an uphill battle for the player going second, and closes games out by turn 4 with the best possible curves. Missing your 2 or 3 drop will probably decide the game as well.
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>>181912529
mom who. Stop this shit reddit autist.
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>>181911381
>>181911617
>>181912309
>>181912458
I haven't been playing the new expansion much yet but the tweets say you only have 1 turn, and why pass? Dark alice doesn't banish followers in play unless she dies right? Her start of next turn banish only banishes her hand and deck no?
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>>181912960
He's going to deck out
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>>181912727
Yeah the consistency to which I see that is insane. Goblin Leader on Turn 3 in general is ridiculously consistent
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>>181913001
Man am I blind.
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>>181912854
But I couldn't care less about that shit. I just want to get to Master so I no longer have to care about demoting, and will feel accomplished too
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>>181913168
>not wanting the exclusive sleeves and free packs
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>>181911125
ISABELLE CONFIRMED NOT A VIRGIN!

ISABELLE CONFIRMED NOT A VIRGIN!

ISABELLE CONFIRMED NOT A VIRGIIIIIIINNNN!!!!!!!
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>>181913168
Well, if you don't mind rewards or sticking as an Master 0.
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Remember when everyone said it should be piss easy to reach GM? Well, I definitely don't.
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>>181913228
But still... That's not Kelly, he's that other nigger I last fucked, isn't he. How gross, IT get let me alone?
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>>181913463
I'm just gonna take it easy and not try to rush it. 500 points a day should be enough time without driving myself crazy.
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>See Shadowverse is on the Twitch front page
>Check it out
>It's kripp
>Playing the expansion for the first time
>As spawn blood
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>>181913463
im probably going to meme with dragon and dirt when I hit master
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>>181913575
I just dropped from 1.2k to 0 last night. Granted, I tried to play something non-neutral and got slapped because of it.
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>>181913586
He's playing Control Blood you goddamned retard
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>>181913586
Those shit things plays whatever X EN tells their to.
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>>181913670
Yeah, save your urges to play non-meta decks in Unranked. Went from 2.9k down to sub 1k trying to make Elana work before going back up to 1.5k now.
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>>181913735
*them
fuk me
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Literally bad Alucard.
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>>181913586
>Playing the expansion for the first time
More like third time.
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>>181913937
>play cancer deck
>complaining when losing in topdecks
Haha, fuck you. Better luck next time.
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All these talks about losing class identity, forest is the only one that hasn't lose class identity, even with neutral forest. Hand size is super important so you can't just vomit everything like other classes. There is still hope for shadowverse, they have to make forest the top class again and all the playrate and winrate will go back to normal.
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>Solo missions
>Could be something cool like Win X games without using a legos or Golds
>is just 10 Gold beat a plot mission or practice
fucking you Cy!!1
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>>181914036
I'm not complaining. It's just a statement of fact.
Sorry for trying to win the video game with cards I pulled from packs.
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>>181914041
>forest is the only one that hasn't lose class identity
Forest's "class identity" has revolved around a single card (roach) since day fucking one.
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>>181913586
It's Control Blood.
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>>181914041
>Forest
>Class identity
this shit has not had that ever, forest is the one craft with the less used cards of its own craft other than prep board and fairies to drop roach
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>>181914135
Yeah, about that, Dragon has to deal with their Orb Dragon doesn't have Storm, or Shadow having no Vampire Kiss fanfare for their Soul Glutton.
Eat shit, you bandwagoning shitter.
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>>181913937
>>181914135
She's meant for board control. If you wanted to play aggro you should've used alucard over her.
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>>181914092
it's made for people who don't actively play for some time so they could still keep with the game
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>>181913937
Emeralda is already being dropped from most of the top Grand Master lists in exchange for more early game cards. You already have roughly a 59% chance of having Alucard in your hand by turn 7 if you run 3, not even factoring in thinning your deck or going second.
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One of the rare times I got three of them on the field.
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>>181914230
You're an idiot.
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>>181914135
>pulled
You created them the moment you saw it on Game Ai.
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Man I cant wait for Alice and Bapho nerf and the sweet sweet 2K vial per card apology from cy
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>>181914329
Yeah, you are a frothing asshole who cannot win without a T0 deck.
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>>181914230
orb dragon and soul glutton were never actively used for a reason

orb dragon was "powercreeped" by bahamut
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>>181912157
It was a midrange though. Control in DE used 3 Otohimes, 3 Aurelias, 2-3 Tsubakis, 2 Alexanders, at least one Olivia (sometimes even 2 or 3), and some people, me included, teched in one or two Odins versus seraph. And a whole bunch of golds. In RoB it became even more expensive, since people played top-heavy control with multiple Bahas, 2 or 3 Odins to dead with Nep and seraph. Obviously, 3 Alberts as well. And more golds like Fangblade and Amelia.
It's really sad that control sword is a pure meme right now and probably won't return ever. It might've been decent now with Roland versus spawn, but Emeralda happened.
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Has anyone actually seen any dragons use that evolved 10/10 follower yet?
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>tfw illusionist single-handedly wins you the game
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>>181914364
I pulled both spawns on the first day. I had 6k gold and like 30 freebies.
Suck a dick. It would've taken a lot more dust to play haven or forest, especially since I don't even have any of forest's previous staple leggos.
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>>181914419
Soul Gluttong is not used because she doesn't havve anything other than Bane and Orb Dragon is superceded by Odin. Tell me next time when Soul Glutton has that fanfare, even with Necromancy (4) attached to it.
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>>181914463
The fuck that mordecai bro
I swear for the God i gonna bahamut it
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>>181912157
tfw a deck with 3 leggos and maybe about 6 golds (daria, midrange sword, otk elf) was considered a not cheap deck and an average price for a meta deck
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>>181914441
I've used it a few times. It's fun.
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This is actually the worst expansion of the game yet
At least before you had to deal with runetumors/dragoncucks/shadowniggers only every other game but now every game is full on netdecking cancer

I cant believe I'm happy that I get to face a roachnigger for once and not have to see alice
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>>181914725
Don't forget every viable deck has at least 6 legos and a multitude of golds. Now every deck is as expensive as a control deck 2 expansions ago.
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>make a deck teching against spawn
>haven't fought a blood deck in 10+ games
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>>181914725
I'm playing Spawn but without Alice/Neutral. Guess how good I am doing?
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>>181914830
>>181914830
>>181914830

new thread
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>>181914958
People are figuring out if you go full ham against spawn, they can't drop a turn 5 baphomet into turn 6 do nothing when they got lethal on their ass.
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>>181915015
Wait, let him guess fag zero cancer
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>>181915015
What the fuck?
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>>181914725
Burn rune is almost everywhere too, and it's not using the neutral engine. I kind of understand them though, most of the time they have a good chance vs spawn. Would've joined them, but I haven't pulled any Oz, and don't want to craft three of them.
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>>181914958
>>haven't fought a blood deck in 10+ games
japs think it's shamefuru to play it?
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>>181915095
Dirtrune is "draw mutagenic or lose" anyway.
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>>181914041
>play a bunch of neutral followers
>use one forest related spell as removal
>play Beauty and the Beast, which is tied to neutral

Forest completely lost its class identity.
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https://twitter.com/waffle_sv_/status/882893711155142657
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>>181915094
Fate/go collab confirmed. Fuck
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>>181914725
I like it better than TotG. Losing to the heals from dragon ramp was the worst cancer.
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>>181915347
>play cancer
>complain about mirror
Why is this allowed?
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>>181915347
kek
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>>181914725
>cuck cries about the game changing from uncounterable combos to curvestone
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>>181915923
The real annoyance is how favored going first is.

Literally coinflip simulator
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>>181915923
dumb frogposter
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Abyssfaggot assblasted
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concede pls 47283
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>>181915095
Oz promises to be the new Daria. We should have a Daria vs Oz fanbase fighting each other right now, I don't know why there's not yet though.
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>>181916089
>Cinderella
Post list.
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>>181916026
Face it, you'll never be happy with this game no matter what because your life is also shit.
I mean, you wouldn't be playing this game at all if you had a great life.
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>>181916097
thank you
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>>181916243
Thats some prime projecting, and I actually enjoyed the DE and post nerf RoB meta a shitton.
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>>181916336
post-nerf RoB was great, cheap tier decks and most Crafts viable.
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>>181916194
Missing 3x veteran lancers
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>>181916243
what if my great life was profiting off of this game because i was a producer of this game? would i still be happy?
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>>181916454
You're the only one who can answer that question
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>>181916243
t. newfag that joined when Tempest hit
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>>181916194
Swordfags still don't fail to amaze me.
>had lethal if he attacked with Cinderella first
>played a sword follower and bounced her away
>conceded in shame
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Play "control" sword
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So how are they going to nerf Spawn?
The game would be so much better without him.
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>Go first
>Drop Tove into Goblin Leader
>Lose
How do Spawnfags do it?
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>>181916453
How is that list working for you?
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>>181916584
7pp enhance on baphomet
demon key is 5pp 5countdown

legos will never get nerfed
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>>181916628
based Ta-G
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>>181916714
>Wasn't playing during the event period
Fuck, I hope this comes back.
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>>181916584
They don't nerf legendaries and Spawn doesn't need to be nerfed. All they need to do is weaken the Neutral engine a bit and nerf Baphomet so that you can't just use Spawn as a Midrange finisher.
Spawn is completely fine in CBlood where it belongs.
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>>181916628
Spawn isn't that good due to all the board spamming + neutral boost. And people never put your at vengeance before having enough lethal on hard.
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>>181916640
I'm considering switching the old people for Grimnirs. I like Cinderella though stays alive after killing those Toves.
Having Roland slows down blood though. They normally have to waste a turn dropping Esmeralda to kill Durandal.
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>>181916243
what are you talking about, i like anime artstyles and card games and my life is great. i've liked this game a majority of its metas, doesn't mean it isn't dogshit now
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>>181911662
free my nigga stratos
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>>181916714
>Ta-G will never step on your dick

https://twitter.com/shadohagi/status/856507019875950593
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Okay, guys. I need a deck.
inb4 kys shadownigger
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>>181911629
>it is viable in every class
that's the problem, there's absolutely zero reason to use class cards and mechanics when strictly better cards are available to everybody. It kills class identity and homogenizes the game. 2drop into gobbo leader into alice is way too good and any deck not running that engine is instantly inferior.
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>>181916243
Are you really going to post this every day?
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>>181917235
>5 gold
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>>181917146
I wish my dick were like that.
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>>181917235
reroll
shadow is t3
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>>181911872
You're forgetting CSword and Ramp Dragon, although Face Dragon was better than Ramp until RoB and Face only needed 3 Fortes. I miss being able to use my vampy deck
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>be Cygames
>don't know how to Balance the game
>I know, let's push neutral so all the classes play the same, because when everyone is OP, no one is
>turns out blood works best with neutral
>everyone just plays neutral blood
>achieve nothing
>be back where I started
I called this shit weeks before the expansion
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>>181912649
Great is unironically great and at lhe very least Tilting is a little better in T2 than it would've been before since you get way more neutrals now. Khaiza and Windmills is pure kino
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>blood gets guaranteed spawn pulls
>omegacancer
>dragon gets guaranteed forte pulls
>completely fine haha dragon is balanced bro just play around it

Really roars my bahamuts.
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How do I Nep in this expansion? She literally got 0 support.
Is it even possible or just a death wish?
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>>181917434
One day aggrobats will be t1 and they wont be laughing anymore fellow bloodkin.
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>>181917565
>guaranteed Forte pull
where? since DE?
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Can dragon summoner pull herself?
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>>181917736
HEAR THE DRAGONS ROAR
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>>181917565
Forte is actually a balanced card from standard, so having enablers and tutors do not make her broken.
While Spawn is overpowered piece of shit that baphomet makes even more retarded.
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>>181917725
It already is retarded. Aggro bats will always be viable and tier 1 against crafts that doesn't heal absurds amount. Blood has always been cancer since aggro shit happened.
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>>181917797
Yes.
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>>181913586
>got memed by jabberwock
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>>181917852
It is a fucking meme
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>>181917810
>>181917565
>guaranteed
>can pull itself
>Emissary has existed since fucking Standard
>7 damage vs 16
Kill yourself.
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Why is nobody playing neutral dragon with forte as finisher? Is it that outclassed by blood?
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>Curve out like a god damn mad man in take two as sword going 5-0
>Buy 2 wonderland packs with my winnings
>Get a corpselord
I..I've been cheated.
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>>181917830
>"hit face and win if the opponent doesnt draw removal" card is balanced
Oh wait did I just describe spawn or forte :^)?
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>>181917871
>â–¶
All is right in the world
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>>181917983
Just play Sword
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>>181917987
Any removal kills Forte, autistic bloodnigger. Spawn has fucking Ambush.
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>>181916789
obviously it's not the same, but there's a mod someone posted on reddit that you can use to replace the art (but not voice) for quickblader if you're interested
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>>181917987
Forte does not have ambush and does not punish you for removing her, she also dies instantly to pretty much any ping while Spawn has an enormous body
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>>181917987
>unironically comparing Forte to Spawn
Kill yourself, bloodnigger.
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>>181918073
Or ward. Forte is only good with that new leggo+ramping.
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>tea time amulet
>havencraft card
>Tin soldier that it summons
>neutral follower

Why is this allowed? Even the mice from mutagenic bolt is specifically tagged as runecraft followers. Haven needs a nerf.
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>>181918284
It's the theme of the expansion, retard. CoCK also summons Neutrals. Also, Tin Soldier is not exclusive to Haven as Shadow can also summon it.
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>>181917914
she's at least marginally useful if you just run 1x of her
i have just 1 in my ramp deck and she can fetch a sybil, or aiela 1/2 the time
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>>181918284
>daria shitting out followers is fine
>oh but haven actually playing followers for a single expansion? God-fucking-forbid
kys runetumor
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>>181917521
meh i went left and was only offered garbage all draft. still went 4-1 though.
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I fucking love this sleeve
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SAA
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Why people stop playing sword? It is still super good and can storm face for lethal most of the time.
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>>181918743
Too bad you retards still haven't noticed you can't really see your own sleeve when you're playing except on your deck that's partially obscured.
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>>181918743
same. it's the first reward sleeve i've actually used. normally i just use the boring ass class sleeves because i don't like the reward sleeves' gold borders much
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>>181918876
Because
>legendary devil of vengeance.
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>>181918921
sounds like you didnt even get to that score reward yet
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>>181917459
>turns out blood works best with neutral
More like Blood also gets a few core cards like BKB and Saberuer.
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>>181918743
What noises does an angry grab make?
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>>181919221
Angry crab noises
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>>181918743
>still cannot worship
When do you think they will start releasing these prebuilts?
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>>181919382
>Like original Nephthys art better
>Want sleeves for Nephthys deck
It feels wrong not to match them up, and I've already got Mordecai and Khawy but eeeeeeh
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Kripp literally kept entering and exiting A1 during today's stream.
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>>181919596
How much salt did he get from dealing with neutral decks in general?
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I literally can't win a single game anymore. Can somebody please fucking tell me what to do? Lost 3k points so far.
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>>181919382
Hopefully never. You retarded bandwagoning netdeckers ruin every single deck you touch.
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>>181919670
You need to get better luck, literally. Skill is irrelevant anymore.
I've been stuck for a week at 1k points and only today I've finally managed to get to 2k with burnr une because I stopped getting shit draws all of a sudden.
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>>181919674
>has been a shadow player since DE
>being called a bandwagoner
How do you do it?
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Finally got there
>666 wins
Is Spawn Blood (no Bapho) literally the antichrist?
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>>181919813
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>>181919657
Amazingly, none at all. I think he understood that the deck he was using wasn't really meta and was kinda pleased he at least got to the border of A0/A1
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>>181919382
I spent my orb to make animated Nep
Is she playable in this expansion?
Early game is so fucking fast now I don't know how you can deal with it anymore.
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>>181917983
Yes. I tried it out and you usually spend the whole game catching up to your opponent's tempo. Salamander's Breath doesn't do shit anymore either.
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>>181919813
1. You're not subtle at all
2. Real shadow players arent whaling morons like you
3. You can worship nep right now
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>>181919979
>Real shadow players arent whaling morons like you
Dude what
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>>181850707
>fall in love with a literal beast
>hope for some real lustful love
>turns out he is a cuck who is into pure love

poor beauty

>>181919843
grats!
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>>181919895
I suppose it hasn't set it yet. Like, you need to be going second against every neutral players to start to get the sting.

>>181919905
She's not really that good right now since games can end as early as turn 5.

>>181919979
>i decide what players can buy
I like collectibles, so kindly fuck off.
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nep never was good vs aggro
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>>181920134
Why not? In RoB I just spammed wards shit like Spartoi Soldier, Feathered Patroller and even Shield Angel and destroyed aggro, granted I lost my edge against other control decks, which were luckily not that popular. Nep is a very flexible deck, you build it to counter specific decks.
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>>181919670
i saw some korean today who was stuck at the same score around ~8k for 3-4 hours
he played very solid neutral sword deck, just got unlucky
>>181919789 this is true so much, i think they made whole GM thing only because of that
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>>181920134
She is actually good with the exception of getting a brick hand. The problem is haven and rune are prevalent in the meta.
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>>181918876
Because it came back to being honest, and bandwagoners gonna bandwagon
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>>181916628
Frankly speaking, despite all the popularity for Neutral spawn I never really go for that build. I still use Spawn but Neutral at this point is too much of a liability for me.

Neutral in general relies heavily on a good curve and being able to do damage early game fast. But with the current meta, everyone is carrying heavy removals. Now I go for Control Blood. It doesn't work against Haven, it works from time to time against Rune and Shadow, but everything else it's a guaranteed win.
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What's a good proportion between number of sigils and earth rite users in a deck? Half and half?
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>heal for 22 health
>still lose because LOL 3SPAWN
Fuck that fucking trash card holy shit.
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have they disclosed the leaders poll results?

>>181920224
in rob i farmed 2378 nep with its maximum wards easily with aggro blood

but leaving aside anecdotic experiences, she had a poor winrate vs aggro on shadowlog

>>181919382
have to nerf neutral to make the old leggos sale again
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>>181920349
About 9-12 sigils is enough.
Burn decks run:
Smelter
Cauldron
Red hot
Dwarf
If you go more control you can maybe add ginger instead
You can add crafty warlocks if you REALLY want too.
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>>181920267
deck list?
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41672
Need a concede please
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>>181920374
heal slut
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>>181920436
You can't do that anymore desu.
All your wards have such low stats you'll get traded into by fucking goblins.
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>>181920436
Funny thing is that it's the other way round. The only craft that posed a problem was Rune and Haven as I stated earlier.
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>>181920374
stop pretending Elana came out of meme land
she will never will
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>>181920575
Seraph, actually.
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12610
need a concede
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>>181920496
Thank you forte
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>>181920653
done thanks
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12491

Need a concede
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>20 ranked games
>18 of them were against blood
why do you faggots play this game again
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>>181920849
Thank you!
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>>181920864
Thats a lie.
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>>181920374
>As Sword
>Dude playing Elana heals for 6 gorillion health, themises every other turn
>Still win
God bless Rabbit Ear Attendant
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>they always have the Tove
>they always have the Grimnir
>they always have the second/third Spawn
>they always have the fucking Mask
>they always have Sabreur
Blood needs to be fucking deleted altogether. There is no salvaging this class
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>>181920864
Blood Abyss is so fucking stupid. It's just a way earlier and way safer Seraph. I've hardly used half of my deck because the Baph into Abyss just seals the game everytime. At worst it deals 8 damage.
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>>181920462
Credit to where credit is due. One anon in the previous threads recommended building a control deck that is pretty much but nothing but removals. Kiss, Horde, Australian Fist, Saber, etc. The beauty of Control Blood is that even if you did go T2 first, you have a pretty decent chance of making a play unlike Neutral.

The key here is just Spawn + Urd because if the opponent let T6 Spawn just sit there with a follower(s) of their own, that is essentially a OTK. My deck is still a mess but that should give you an idea of how it's suppose to work. Right now I'm just throwing in and out of Blood Moon to see if it is really needed. Plus my deck currently have no drawing so I am seeing if addding in some cards that can draw will help.

But regardless this deck have carried me hard more so than Neutral Spawn, IMO. I don't know what else awaits for me at AA2 but so far so good.

tl;dr: Throw in ALL the removals, gobus, baphs, Spawns, and Urds.
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>>181921173
>win 10 times with spawn in fucking a
>mompost about his spawn wins
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>>181912952
ancient elf. for the longest time, literally every forest deck in existence started with 3x AE and 3x Roach, no questions asked.
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>tfw Lilac is singlehandedly facefucking you
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>It's okay when Forest, Sword, Dragon, Shadow, Rune, Haven dominate the meta
>It's not okay when Blood does it
Explain this.
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>>181921173
Don't bully CSword pls
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What neutral haven list are you using guys?
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>>181921381
Nobody likes this game
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>>181921173
>A3
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>>181921381
You weren't here last expansion were you?
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>>181921381
Nigga it's never okay
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>>181921381
Blood is tier 0. Even it's supposed counters have a negative win rate against it. Just like Shadow did except blood is worse.
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>faggot taunting me in fucking unranked while I play a meme deck and he netdecks.
Where the fuck is the "go fuck yourself, scum" emote?
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>get punished for killing your opponent

Who thought blood was a good idea?
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>>181914852
>tfw 20k vials and 8+ garbage legendaries i could dust if I needed to, and I can barely make one deck

At least Standard packs are such fucking shit now I can just liquefy everything I get from them
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>>181921173
>A3
>not even a level 100, hence a bandwagoner
Is this how the game has become? Everyone posting about them winning with T0 decks?
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>tfw roping every turn has an 80% win chance against blood
It's faster for the Japanese salary man to quit and find a new game so they don't waste their train ride.
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>>181921173
Yeah, I doubt that works in real ranks.
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>>181921381
It's not okay when ANY class dominates the meta. Diversity is key.
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>>181921381
There will alway be retards who complain about the meta. Just do what I did during the last meta. Boast and rub it in as much as possible.
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>>181921525
You mean the "waiting for result" screen? You do it automatically when you get lethal anyway because the other guy is a mouthbreathing retard
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Haven't played dragon since RoB, does it still use lucifer or should I get rid of it? I don't feel like playing storm ramp in this meta.
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>>181921381
>it's okay for a craft to be able to tutor out their 16 damage wincon
Tell yourself that.
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>>181921381
I yearn for the good old days when Forest and Sword players would bitch about each other's decks being OP.
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>>181921882
Elf does this.
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>>181921882
>complaining about a meme-y leggo
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>>181921728
Well of course not. I haven't even reached any where yet. The guy just wanted to know my shoddy deck, thats all.
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I'm having a lot of sucess with this sword deck against blood. Just place hedgehog down, spam removal/rush followers and laugh as blood cannot deal with a 7/5 Hedgehog on turn 5.
Even if Emerelda removes durandal, they still have to remove Roland and without evos Spawn is just sitting there doing nothing while Albert awaits his time.
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>>181921865
Play duckmill
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>>181921990
I want to strangle the cunt who revealed Spawn for saying that
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>>181922027
only 11 leggos
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>tfw you finally pull off a meme
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>>181922027
>Timmy
Is he really worth it over Fangblade or something like Leonidas?
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>>181922134
Gawain is honestly the weakest card in the deck. You can replace him with Teena or something. I like him because his has rush at 6 pp and I can save my evos only for Albert and White Ridge.
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>>181922218
Those meme screenshots are always against CSword. It hurts
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>>181922273
If you evolve him, he survives a Revelation if trade into something less than 4 attack. Just in case you don't have Durandal.
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It's nice when missions align and you get them done in few minutes because people in unranked give up if they fall behind in first few turns.
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>>181922273
How'd he get the name Timmy anyways?
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>>181922324
i don't know if i agree. by himself, yeah gawain is a little mediocre. but without him, you're going to get ass fucked without 6pp roland against blood going 2nd
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>>181922698
MTG archetype players, "Timmy" refers to a person whose playstyle favours playing big fat creatures.
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>>181922850
You're kind of fucked if you go second against blood either way. Just to have to pray they don't play Tove if you didn't draw your flame shield.
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DE needs to leave T2. Too much Olivia.
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What is the best haven deck rigth now, control aegis? someone has a list?
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>>181920864
you should mark the time where blood niggers are in full swing and mark the times that memers are playing maybe it'll help you a little bit
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>>181922027
Been having much succes against Blood with this as well, but it loses ridiculously hard to pretty much anything else.
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>>181922218
imagine pulling 3 servants 2 riders. i swear satan should let you fucking pick which card you draw with how hard it is to play him and live
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>tfw topdecked lethal to beat Spawn Blood even after they BKB'd twice.
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>>181923570
It loses pretty goddamn hard to Haven, specially the return of Elana. Holy shit, sword's worst nightmare is constant themis followed by 6/5 bunnies and 5/8 angels.
This reason I have it hard to believe midsword was tier 1 in DE when Elana was at its peak.
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>>181923712
Like this?
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>>181923818
Midsword, not Control Sword. Themis is an answer to Otohime but Otohime also lets you recover from a wipe, and the deck tried to end on 7 before the healing got out of control.

When it comes down to it both decks have the right tools for the other, but Midsword was just a heck of a lot more consistent. Most Elana decks were Elana-Seraph which just made the matter worse for them.
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>>181922027
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_i6uQNOmg0
these guys are playing this deck currently
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>>181924162
Is that where the deck came from? Someone linked me to a twitter for the deck since I have too many sword legendary cards.
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>>181911308
Admit you're not good enough to climb
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Nerfing cards won't be nearly enough. I'm gonna honestly quit if they don't give us some fucking apology packs for this fucking atrocity.
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Me at the beach with my girl Isabelle.
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>>181924436
Oh and also permaban any account that crafted Spawn.
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>>181924436
they'll give us roost apology packs at the end of the month when the nerfs happen and it'll just be implicit they're really for baphomet
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>>181924436
>he thinks that shadowverse will ever be fixed
lmao
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>>181913937
Shes for vengeance or control, if you want inconditional storm just use soul dominator you retarded netdecker
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Uninstalled. Fuck this game. Devs are hilariously incompetent.
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>>181924484
She's everyone's girl.
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>>181924526
giving the roost back will make rowen a threat again HIP HIP
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>>181916703
Demon key doesn't deserve a nerf desu
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>>181924484
i want to sniff isabelle's armpits
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>>181921865
SahaLuci will always be there to grind out and stabilize against aggro decks, so think of it as a tech
Also you really want a 2 drop, having an instant answer to Goblin Leader does loads
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>>181924670
You are free now, brother.
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>>181923818
Durandal is supposedly made to tip the scales in our favour
Are 3x Roland absolutely necessary? I only have 2.
>tfw THIS close to crafting 2 Timmies
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>tfw it's literally impossible for games to last until turn 10 anymore.
I fucking hate Cygames for ruining this game.
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>>181925250
get fucked controlcuck
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>>181925272
Keep sucking their dick, brainless ungashitter.
Why don't you go buy some vials for that latest netdeck, scum.
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Thoughts on potential improvements to this Forte Summoner decklist? I've never pulled Forte into Urd off but Urd into evo has done work against evolved BKB and Rehab so I'm hesitant to remove it.
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>>181924162
>Open video
>See this
Why would you ever trade? The worst sword could do is 11 damage next turn.
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Anyone who can concede a match?
38133
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>>181925346
Just themis bro
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>>181924526
They better not touch Baph and leave it at that. I want an actual acknowledgement how royally they fucked up this time. A big gesture. Nerf Spawn and Alice into the fucking ground and leave Baph intact. Bow their fucking heads in shame.
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>>181925445
If you dont ramp, by the time you'll be able to do the forte+urd combo you or your enemy will be fucking dead already
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Forest will shine after the nerfs!
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>>181925492
Who are these guys? And what's with the backdrop?
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>>181925886
if they leave Baph untouched, whatever bullshit they create next expansion will be able to tutor as long as it has 5 or more attack.
Like cut weed but leave root alone, another will grow.
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1 card, 16 face damage
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>>181926204
Alright, nerf Baph too. I don't care as long as Spawn and Alice get hit, too.
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>>181924484
where is you?
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>>181925886
>W-we didnt expect people to use bapho to pull abyss to make him broken.
Expect the Roach + goblin mage apology again.
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>>181926251
Stop.
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>>181926310
>Expect the Roach + goblin mage apology again.
What was that?
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>>181924162
>Win twice because enemies are retards who can't read
>Proceed to lose 5 times in a row
Nice video
>>
WHO did they even think Kiss of the frog was remotely balanced?
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>>181926405
They didnt think about forest to use Goblin mage + and feena to concistenly draw roaches to rape your face.
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>Officer Timmy is bad
>Forte is retarded
pick both
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>sick of this meta
>just solo missions for me then
>3x 10 rupees rewards
Getting ready to have your pack bought in 4 days, you motherhecker!
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>>181925445
Forget urd, add hippogryph rider and aina
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I think if Cygames incorporated this into the combat gameplay of Shadowverse, the game would be improved immensely.
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>>181926637
LEAVE DORK ALONE
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>>181926571
That would mess up Dragon Summoners pull to the point of uselessness.
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>>181926681
Why are you using that trash anyway? Just replace that and emissary with neutrals
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pretty bafflng how people are so stupid and sheepish, they always complain about the wrong cards - tove, yurius, levy, sybil, rahab, orthus etc etc ignoring the actual problematic ones
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>>181926637
source?
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>>181926768
>don't bother playing dragoncraft, just play neutralcraft + Forte

If I was gonna do that, I'd swap to spawn blood.
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>>181924526
>>181926204
Baph isn't the problem though. Yea you can build your deck for a confirmed tutor but he's a 5pp 2/1 do nothing if you want the -3pp. If you go aggressive, they can't spend 5pp to drop a 2/1. Spawn is the one that needs nerfs. It's a guaranteed 12 damage if you don't have wards or a way to random removal because of ambush.
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>>181926637
game name? (´・ω・`)
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>>181926802
we should buff yurius
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>>181926476
Also a lesson to dragoncucks to stop using salamander breath on a single attack follower.
That maid and hedgehog isn't that threatening.
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>>181926802
>implying Sybil was acceptable
Go fuck your brother Vampy, that bitch was overstatted and you know it.

>>181926867
Spawn is fine at 8pp.
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>>181926637
>using whip
>no whip marks
Why?
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>>181926860
enjoy your garbage deck and dont ask for advice then
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>>181924162
>that guy who emeralda's timmy
Are all blood players this fucking retarded?
>>
Thinking about just giving in and crafting the fucking 3x spawn. should i give in to the dark side?
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>>181926990
AWAKEN MY MASTERS!
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>>181926860
also I told you to replace urd and summoner with hippogryph and aina, the deck I suggested is literally more dragon than yours retard
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>>181926565
the minimal reward for ordinary missions is 3x 20 i.e. 60 rupees, for solo ones it's 3x 10, i.e. they bring about twice as less, but solo missions don't have standard pack rewards so overall they are like maybe 1.5-1.8 i dunno less or so. you also get about 24 gold on average with daily rewards, so i guess with solo missions you can have a pack in maybe 1.5-2 days
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>>181926867
Seraph auto win turn 7 should be fine.
16 face damage is nothing :^)
>>181927167
7 solo matches win gives you 40 gold
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>>181927150
>Missing the point of the entire deck which is to get Forte out
Also are you seriously that analpained at about it that you had to make two separate posts, that's just sad.
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>>181926992
Bandwagoning dragoncucks, shadowniggers, and bloodfucks are all retarded.
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>>181927256
why ask for advice if you just want your deck to be bad?
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>>181927220
funnily there was a daily for 3 evolve for 30 rupees, it always was possible to do in practice, i dunno if it's still a daily in pvp, but it's now a possible solo mission for the same reward

dunno about hat 5 evolves daily

>>181927043
2x spawn, it's tutored for a reason
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>>181926637
I hope you get hit by a bus tomorrow
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>>181927043
wait till the 1st batch of nerfs hit
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>>181927426
*raped by an anthropomorphic bus
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>>181927426
Are you okay reddit?
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>People who play neutralspawn in unranked
Prepare to get roped every turn you fucking faggots. You aren't getting those fast dailies.
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>>181927554
Nice boogeyman.
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>>181927624
Are you okay SJW?
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>against blood as mostly old style Storm haven.
>bms me when she drops her 3rd abyss expecting my running out tribunal to kill it making me lose.
>hits her unstealthed one instead.
Never take out victories to early Bloodfag.
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>>181927681
Do you ever stop?
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why are people so obsessed about reddit
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>>181927573
Why is it always fucking vampy leaders that are spawnniggers?
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>go first
>win
Decks literally do not even matter anymore, as long as you've deprived your opponent from going first, you've basically already won. Even when you're not playing aggro.
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>>181927835
I don't have Vampy leader because I spent my coins on Forte, but I've never gotten to play Dragon outside of T2.
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>>181927835
he is so big and strong!
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>>181927852
>going second
>2 evo points on turn 7
Yeah, it's because the game is a coinflip and not because he played his cards incorrectly. Sure.
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>>181927835
I've seen mostly Urias playing Blood down in AA, dunno if its different up in Masters.
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>>181927894
If he evolved both his Abyss on 6 and Emeralda at 7 I still would've lived.
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>>181927918
It's worse, spawniggers in unranked.
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>>181927835
>Why is it always fucking vampy leaders that are spawnniggers?

Vampy likes tentacles
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Just play aggro until the spawn fade dies out or gets nerfed. They can't drop spawn if you're going to kill them.
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>>181927953
I dont get why people play Meta or near meta decks in unranked,
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>>181928042
Fast dailies. That wasn't so hard, was it?
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>>181928005
There is no aggro strong enough to beat Tove in the game.
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>>181928060
how much of a hard try you have to be for that??
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>>181927948
You going first implies that you should have board advantage on turn 4, unless he turn did T2 Tove -> T3 neutral and removed your 2 or 3 drop. Unless playing against a control deck, I would usually allow for 2 evos by turn 7, then use Spawn as a fangblade on turn 8 if you still have a board. Allowing shadow to have sticky creatures past turn 6 is risky.
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>>181928070
I'm confused with Tove, was it suppose to be like Rapunzel and can only attack followers since wording can't attack, gains rush when neutral follower comes into play.
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>>181928097
Very tryhard, but what's the point of handicapping yourself? People just want fast gold and do not enjoy losing, therefore they resort to a deck that finishes the game fast and efficiently. Caring about what other people enjoy or do not enjoy playing against is foolish when your only goal is to win.
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>>181928070
what prevents you from playing tove? in what way playing tove requires you to play spawn instead of neutral aggro?

not that guy btw
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>People think Sword got the most Neutral support
>Meanwhile Tove and Phantom Cat exist
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Which Shadowverse has the largest ass?
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>>181927256
If you just want to draw forte you go neutral with forte, Urd is just a brick most of the time, and summoner is a bad tutor
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>>181928360
Mordecai!
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>>181928360
surprisngly it's tove

look at the art attentively

>>181928334
without spawn neutral blood is already worse than neutral sword, without ridic nerfs for tove, bkb, scarlet etc that you propose
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>>181928206
This, that's why you rope while doing something else. Comfy af
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>Try out that CSword deck that's floating around
>Lose bitterly, a lot
>Alright business as usual, back to neutral
>Get matched up with the only other faggot trying the same CSword deck, he even had the Timmies
>Lose, but it was a pretty tight match
>Well shit maybe I should try it one more time
>Nut draw against on curve Neutral Blood, win in turn 12 after cucking both of his Spawns
Sorry I ever doubted you CSword, I'm changing my emblem back to Roland
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This bear is cute as fuck
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will people hate me if i play spawn deck without baphomet?
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>>181928687
Dunno, maybe they'll just think you bricked
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>>181928647

I wish I was that bear.
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>>181928687
nah
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>>181928687
They already hate you for playing a spawn deck.
It can't get any worse.
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Reminder that this is a card that exists in this game RIGHT now
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>>181929108
They already hate you for playing blood, doesn't matter what deck.
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>>181929171
have you found it useful?
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>>181929449
not him but I once won a take 2 match back in DE by buffing a lion twice with that spell
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>>181929449
Good heavens, no. I was ridiculing the fact that this card is in the same game that has Kiss of the Princess in it.
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When are the nerfs? the 28th? or end of the month?
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>Shadowbabs honestly believe this game is salvagable

There's too many things to fix, and cygames is notorious for being fucking stupid when it comes to nerfing.

WD is going to kill this game.
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>>181929591
Kiss of the princess is excuses because only neutral. Remember? lol
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they're laughing again
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>>181929737
I remember thinking, let's see if WD can save the game. And then the game became worse than I could have possibly ever imagined.
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18071
Need a concede.
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>We routinely review match data in the Shadowverse Team. When it's necessary to create a great game environment, we change the card costs and effects and boost the number of vials that are available from liquefying cards. Any future changes to cards' costs and abilities will be announced on a prespecified date, and then changes will generally be made the next day.

>July 29 (Announcement) July 30 (Change)
>August 28 (Announcement) August 29 (Change)
>September 26 (Announcement) September 27 (Change)

gonna be a while
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>>181929913
Most of the Steam playerbase seemed to think the same time
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>>181929916
Thanks.
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>>181930184
>tiny peak and then it goes back into obscurity again for another 3 months
This game is dead
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>>181930028
RIP this game.
Neutral is fucking boring to play, everything is the same. Worst expansion ever.
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>>181930250
It's a massive spike actually, then it dips below the number of players before release in less than a week. That's pretty bad for a digital card that's pumping out new content every what? 3 months or so?
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>>181930028
they'll just turn neutrals into their own class with a ding dong leader to fix it :^)
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>>181930250
>>181930184
its clear they dont give a fuck anymore for balance in any regard

>balance is locked out of monthly reviews instead of being done whenever needed
>just releasing big flashy card for the sake of it, not to improve the game

Its impossible they saw cards like Spawn, Frog kiss, CoCk, BKB, etc and no body question it
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>>181930579
I wouldn't be surprised if SV dev team has layers of Japanese bureaucracy that prevents any kind of common sense action from happening
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>>181930579
Spawn was revieled on the big stage. They knew that card was completely insane but chose to keep it as is.
The first thing we saw was 16 unavoidable damage to the face by a bunch of people who don't even play the game. Literal retards can pilot that deck.
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>>181930723
>the two kids who announced spawn called it ''memey''
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>>181930662
thats not an excuse when Pokemon and Yu Gi OH games exist and are not this ass backwards

>>181930723
yeah, they are going for flash vs substance, which is good for like on release, but those cards aport nothing to the game overall or out right kill it

>>181930840
there will always people that have not foresight, remember that Sybil was called shit once revealed
>HAVE TO WAIT TILL TURN 5!!, THAT WONT HELP RAMP!!
>NEED OVERFLOW FOR A HEAL??!!! WHAT A WASTE OF 5PP!!!!
etc
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>>181930723
By "they" I mean Cygames.
As someone who's fucking tired of dealing with INTERACTIVE cards, I called Spawn very overpowered day one once the nips find a deck that works with it. And surprise, the neutral package w/ Bapho is exactly what it needed.
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This game is fucking finished. Just end the general. It's time to move on to greener pastures. HS's new expansion is looking promising already.
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>supposed to be good versus neutral blood
>lost to the Alice package
Anyone ever try this deck?
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>>181930992
>see card
>see its OP
>see you can not fucking prevent its effect out of a few niche cards
>realize can be fetched
>Realize can be made cheaper to play
>realize can fucking survive your our craft board clear
itt took like 10 minutes, and you are telling me the faggots at Cy could not see this with 3 months??
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>>181931116
>lost once
>"mom, the deck doesn't work!"
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>>181930948
>Yu Gi OH
Yugioh is much worse.
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>>181931116
i tried that other one that seems to be better than this one
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>>181931472
>that other one
Thanks
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>>181931552
its been posted 3 times per thread the last 3 threads anon
its just as well know as that aggro shadow deck from RoB
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>>181928892
baka, that bear is balding, see that crescent on his forehead
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>tfw I really liked this game and now it's just degenerated into garbage that I couldn't recommend to anyone
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>>181931058
You are free to leave.
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>>181931552
search for "cancer" in older threads
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>>181931686
What does Vampy's used swimsuit smell like.
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MEZAMENASAI
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>>181931804
2 years of unwashed baboon's butt.
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>>181931804
chlorinated water most likely
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>>181931784
This one? >>181870194
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>>181931914
don't ever keep lurching unless you have demon eater or soul conversion
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>vs. Haven
>clearly it's Aegis with all their control tools
>playing Csword
>turn 8 play Hero of Antiquity and evolve him
>doesn't die to themis, tribunal, evolved Aegis
>have Albert lethal next turn
>acolyte's light
WHY DOES HAVEN HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS TO EVERYTHING? Can just counter every single deck with their bullshit 37 removal spells and Aegis.
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Need a concede /svg/fags

67492
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>>181932228
Thanks grandmaster.
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>>181932073
haven is the designated anti-meta class friend, its called chemocraft for a reason
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>>181931058
>HS
lol
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>>181932334
You mean cancercraft.
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Is this game still shit? Haven't played since the first expansion.
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Someone got a good haven list to cuck bloodfags with?
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>>181933037
oh man you don't even KNOW
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>>181933070
stall, stall, heal heal, Drop aegis
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>MOOOOOOM, I beat blood going second that did Tove, Goblin Leader, BKB opening!
White Ridge is so fucking good at revenge killing.
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>>181933215

I got the general gameplan thanks, I just want to be spoonfed a deck so i dont need to think for myself
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Just go first they said
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>>181933138
What? Don't tell me it somehow got worse.
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What's the best dragon deck right now?
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>>181933369
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What if there was a follower that got Rush when you evolved it?
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>>181933491
Fucking hell, I'm not even gonna ask how. Thanks for saving me the download.
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>>181933216
Going second is actually better since you need those evos to keep something on board after trades.
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>>181933291
>diabolic brick
You deserve every loss and more for running that shit you stupid netdecker
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>>181933453
The exact same deck is was in ToG
Only change you should make is replace rahab with teena or dragon warrior
I recommend running the saha ramp version
3*saha
2*luci 2*israfil
3*baha
1/2*ouro
2*Zeus

>how to defeat abyss
Since your only answer to abyss is bahamut you need to somehow outheal the abyss damage
Possible, but requires a non perfect blood curve a and a perfect curve on your side
My recommendation is to concede until you run into something that's not blood instead
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Why do so many bloodfags have to use bapho on t5 no matter what the board state is?
He even didnt evolve his Tove last turn to put even more pressure on me. So I could easily kill his shit since he left them unevolved.
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>4 blood win mission
>get done in 15 min

What a shitshow.
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>>181934254
Spawnfags are apparently incapable of predicting the board state even one turn in advance
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>>181933291
You're just unlucky.
Happens to me a lot lately.
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nice spawn counter shadowbabs
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>>181934254
The same reason why every sword player dropped otohime turn 6 regardless of the board, every rune player dropped Daria asap regardless of the board, every dragon player dropped sybil turn 5 regardless of the board, every shadow player dropped eachtar turn 7 regardless of the board.
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>>181934393
>MOOOOOOOOM I DEFEATED A TIER 4 NEPTITS DECK WITH MY TIER 0 DECKKKK!!!
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>>181934365
Sometimes it boggles my mind how rarely I see Tove in my hand on turn 2 despite trying to redraw agressively for it
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Don't let my wins fool you, I am stuck in A2 due to excessive meme-ing and match ups against Spawn.

Fk that card.
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>>181934462
get fucked shadownigger
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>>181933453
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>>181934478
It boggles my mind how every Blood I play seems to have Tove into Goblin Leader.
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>>181934695
Ehem
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>>181933815
I didn't need that evo at the end for Albert. I only used it for bragging rights.
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>>181934478
That's SV's shitty shuffling algorithm in work.
>have 12 2 drop follower
>didn't see them for 2 whole turn while going second
It's even worse for dragons, like the majority of my losses isn't because I got outskilled, but because I bricked so fucking hard.
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concede plz 63747
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>>181934823
Back in Tempest I had a series of dragon games where I threw back everything that wasn't Dragon Oracle and still have not seen any before turn 5 in like the span of 6 or 7 games
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>>181934759
He asked for the best deck, not the most fun one
And even then sea queen windmills is still cooler
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>>181934873
thanks urias
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ded tred
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>>181935042
Good
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>>181921761
I personaly hate diversity it kills deck teching ability and is just a fest of retard decks
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>>181935042
Let it die
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>>181935042
Good.
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Still have to meet another grandmaster beside me
Seems like everyone who achieves it just stops playing
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>>181935042
>Thread move in the same pace with /hsg/

Wtf happened???
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>>181935850
Back to back bad expansions happened
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>>181935850
People got tried of the whining of scrubs and left.
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>>181935850
Games are too short
The difference in power between cards of same cost is too huge
Some 2pp followers can't be compared to the power of other 2 pp followers etc.
Winconditions are too powerful and have few counters, most of them only being accessible to certain crafts
Recovery is too hard, making going first and curving well too much of an advantage
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Is the wolfbolt beauty hybrid worth crafting or should I just stick with 3x beauties
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>>181936326
It's the same thing almost. Not worth crafting the wolfs or bolts.
I play both and have similar winrates, so just stick to what you have.
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>>181935850
we /hsg/ now
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>>181936426
I see. Well the thing is I have neither but I feel like crafting and playing Forest cards I could go ahead and make Neutral spawn but it's Forest seems more future proof depending on how they handle it
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>>181936239
Making neutral synergy loads better then actual class synergy was a big mistake.
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>>181936326
There's no such thing as worth forest cards. They're all worthless and you play with what you got from packs.
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Control mirrors are pretty fun when Grimnir isn't there to finish the games. I just had fun_____ against an Elana Haven.
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>>181936540
Then start with the B&B. That one is going to last the whole expansion since forest's only other option is roach.
If you want a deck I can share the ones I'm using.
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>>181936709
The only fun I have against elana is when I play ramp dragon and drop a baha on his shit.
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>>181936720
Not him but post the deck anyways.
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>>181936720
I got a couple decks in my netdeck repository, but I don't mind you posting some if you have any "successful" ones.
I'll start with this one and a couple other good legos, then
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>>181936892
>almost no elf cards in deck
>run into looking glass for random reason
??
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>>181936709
Non-Aegis, Wallet Haven vs Non-Aegis Wallet Blood is probably the funnest matchup.
Lucifers are flying around, a bunch of golds and legendaries flying around that neither class would normally use but it's just so fucking fun.
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>>181936892
>no Arriet

This deck sucks dude.
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>>181936962
*meant non-spawn wallet blood
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>>181936953
>>181936976
It was posted really early into the expansion, so I can see why it wasn't "optimized" later on with Arriets and such. Additionally, I wasn't the poster with forest decks, I was the one asking for help regarding crafting BnB. I got the Arriet Bolt one but it's a bit too expensive for the success it may gain me
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>>181936565
I will understand this, since we were already halfway there with most 2 and 3 drops run in many decks being neutral. They needed to push class cards, not neutrals.
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>think they have lethal
>emote "Good job!"
>turns out they can't do that last 1 damage
>Now it looks like I BM'd
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>Otohime is bad
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start second 3 games in a row loose 3 games start first 4 games in a row win 4 games. is there even any point left to keep playing after coin toss?
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>>181937278
*never
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>>181937345
You better thighten up your game, then.
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>>181937317
that's ronove saving your ass not otomeme
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J-just themis bro?!
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>>181937345
Nope. Going first is pretty paramount to winning now.

I'm masters and I've no interest in suffering this shit meta for grand master, I just concede any games I go second in to finish dailies and build score to get the monthly emblem/sleeves, but once I get those I'll probably be avoiding ranked entirely.
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You guys helped me with my custom Blood deck before and I ended up making lots of changes since then. How is the current deck?

Any recommended changes?
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>>181936841
>>181936892
This one is the cheaper version with just 3 B&B and 2 Arriet.
Obviously you can swap the Treants out for Grimnir, Goblin Princess for Feena and Strix for Pixie Mischief, but the base package is there.
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It's me, Claudia!
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need a concede for shekels
94267
also how the fk should i win as forest for 20 shekels?
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>>181937778
Fst summoner is pretty desu try to get more control tools so you can pull more sneks
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Say what you want about this card, but if you have to hard mull for it, you know this meta is fucked up.
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So are there any good dshift lists out yet, or is everyone still experimenting?
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>>181937778
how do you deal with spawn?
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>>181937860
>Not c'est moi! Claudia!
I don't atually know french
>>181937823
Thanks friend. Gonna work my way up to wolfbolt eventually then
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>4th swordcraft animated lego
>have never touched swordcraft
>still 0 shadow animated legos
I just want to end it all.
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>>181938031
Hm, I like most of the cards I have, maybe get rid of Temptress since she's so expensive. Any suggested swaps?

>>181938186
I'm a casual B-ranker so I actually haven't seen Spawn
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>>181938310
Vial them and shut the fuck up.
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>>181938310
>I main sword and rune
>keeps getting animated shadow leggos (3 pluto, 1atomy, 1nepthys)

why is fate such a cruel thing?
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>>181938310
I got an animated dark alice and she's only good for memes. I wish I had pulled 2 corpselords instead.
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>bat hasn't seen support for 2 expansions now
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>>181938651
Spawn :)
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>>181938310
>animated cindy
I jelly.
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>could have been a demon eater or ghost mansion
I hate this game.
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>>181938651
Soul Dominator was ok for bats.
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"the meta won't change"
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>>181923818
You could work Bahamut into the build if you're seeing Elana a lot. Rowen went back to being the meme king, so I guess it's up to Sword to kick the Elana hags back into the pits.
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Any good decks for this guy?
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I did it, I won.
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>>181939167
inb4 spawndick
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>>181939167
You got carried by the best deck in the game. Kill yourself, bandwagoner.
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>>181939274
Nah.
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>>181939008
Correct, it will change, for the worse.
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>>181939447
Good job then!
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>>181939092
I'd like to know as well, since I pulled 3 Lion. Lion Haven went from day 0 cancer to literally who.
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>>181938119
There's that weird mashup with winter's caprice and golem assault, just faced it on ranked.
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>>181939550
Thanks.
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>>181938119
And apparently someone got to GM spamming DShift.
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>>181939625
OG Vampy-anon was cute
Wonder where he is now, and how he feels about being misrepresented
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>>181939447
>censoring flag
From what third world shithole are you from?
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>>181939749
Not the same as you for sure.
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Urias' voice is so awesome, so why did they get a 15 year old boy with a cold to voice his rival?
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End my life family
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Just keep healing and themis bro.
The fuck can haven do against Officer Timmy aside from the 5 pp banish spell?
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Is garuda the most patrician leader?
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>>181940016
did you go second anon, it looks like you went second
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>>181940058
No, that's Claudia.
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>>181939447
>854
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>>181940036
Just Kaguya it bro.
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>>181940145
>Reddit princess
>patrician
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>>181940181
Sorry, I don't bandwagon.
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>>181938031
>Fst summoner is pretty desu
What did he mean by this?
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>the most competitive sword deck at the moment runs tsubakis, ariets, and ephmeras
>with all 3 combined they can do "almost" the same job as a single spawn
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>>181940221
But Forte is reddit princess.
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>>181940236
Then you should be experienced enough with blood not to have taken so long to get to masters. Kys blood was also the 3rd best deck in ToG
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>>181940334
No she's not. Fuck off
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>>181940334
They are both Reddit. Go lurk the subreddit and its discord server. They are full of Claudia and Forte posts and fanart.
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>Going second in coin flip meta
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>>181940492
You have to go back.
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>>181940438
Sorry, I have a live to attend to, so my playing time is limited.
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>>181940623
>854
>having a life
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>>181940545
>not scouting enemy territory to know who you are dealing with
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>>181940623
>muh i have a life argument
Holy shit are you 14?
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>>181940728
I was playing from DE.
>>181940749
I'm just busy with my job and study.
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>>181938031
I revised the dick.

How's this?

I have 3 snek but I don't see the point
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>>181940216
No evo for Aegis then? Yeah I'll take that.
Pretty funny that I can play Haven's game of masturbating for 7 turns, drop Timmy, evolve him, then drop Albert for 18 damage. They can't remove both Albert and Timmy so it's a pretty easy win.
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Have people stop playing Alice-decks and Spawn-decks yet?

I really hate the Neutralcraft thingie, it's making the game feel like Hearthstone - especially when different crafts are using the same cards...
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>>181940746
Sure man whatever you say.
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>>181941132
You're either playing those decks or you're playing a counter to those decks.
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>>181941273
Kikegames does it again
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>>181941132
Why would they
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>>181940962
You have no wincon outside of praying they have no answer to snakes

I'd say you lose to:
Neutral Engine
Most, if not all forms of haven
Spawn
Several forest decks
Most rune decks
Dragon
Aggro/board flood of any kind
Any deck with a decent amount of healing

So you've made a deck that can beat non-neutral engine shadow and maybe non-neutral engine sword
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>>181941132
People are still whining about spawn for sure. I don't see it as much as I hear the salt.
It certainly isn't head and shoulders the best deck.
Hell, I find haven much scarier since you don't know what you have to mull for with 3 decent variants being played.
Blood you know precisely what you're getting.
That said, I do want neutral craft utterly gutted. It doesn't belong in Shadowverse and was an awful idea.
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>>181911629
No, I never wanted that. Neutral cards is one the things that made Hearthstone boring. You never ever got to feel like you were playing your class in that game - it was more like you were trying to fit your class with the strongest neutral cards you had instead.

I really liked that every craft in Shadowverse had its own solid identity, just like in Magic The Gathering. I honestly feel like that this expansion is kind of killing the entire concept of Shadowverse. I hope they nerf the shit out of Alice.
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>>181940746
Don't blame me if you go native.
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How to improve Wolf B&B?
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>>181941646
Yes totally overrated I'm sure cygames won't nerf it like they nerfed ramp dragon and midshadow
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>>181941659

>nerfing legendaries
>nerfing anything more than two cards at a time

Neutral needs to be gutted, but Cygames will just slap a bronze and silver on the wrist and leave the state of the game in a burning trash heap
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>>181941631
I have a decent winrate with similar decks so I guess I fucked up somewhere.
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>>181941646
...I started to play Haven just so I can counter those decks... How else would you get rid of ridicously buffed followers swarming the board or spawn for that sake if not by using Themis's decree etc

Yup. I feel like they managed to fuck up big time this time and had no idea why people like their game.
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>>181941779
By realizing you don't make it to turn 8 and removing wolf and bolt and just make neutral BnB with EGA so you have at least a narrow chance of surviving early game.
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>>181941779
>bnb deck
>no neutral cards other than grimnir

lol
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>>181911629
Alice needs to get cunt punched to either only buff board or hand, or to only give a bonus to attack or defense, she's the single most disgusting card in game. People crying about spawn are drooling retards who don't like losing to something enabled by Alice and to a far lesser degree bapho. If spawn were the problem you'd see reasonable numbers of blood control players. Alice clocks kill control. We'd need 4 mana themis to have even the hope of stabilising.
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>>181942056
>looking glass
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>>181941779
>>181937115
Looking Glass is inconsistant af
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>>181942062
>Alice kills control
That's the point. Cygames doesn't want control to be viable.
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>>181942108
>3 looking glass at the bottom of your deck
Hey look, your deck is useless.
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>>181939092
EAGLE KICK
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I have seen better decks in D0 than Kripp's homebrew control blood.
I swear he does on purpose for the salt. I don't normally watch him play HS other than Salty highlight videos.
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Why all the new Control Sword deck don't run Tsubaki anymore? ;_;
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>>181941998
EGA?
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>tfw I'm so skilled that I just went first 8 games in a row
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>>181926845
>>181926871
Sorry guys, I don't know what game it's from
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>try to finish my daily with a fun deck in unranked
>all meta decks
>just switch to neutral unga bunga aggro shit
Now all you have to do is guess when I switched :^)

Of course the bloodfaggot was playing a neutral spawn deck in unranked
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>>181942368
ETA
My bad
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>>181942359
No valid 5+ attack to target?
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>>181942359
Maybe if she targeted ambushed followers.
I bet should would have if she was a ToG/WD legendary than standard.
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>>181942629
The only way to make ambush more balanced would be to make more randomized destruction effects.
But thats a dangerous road to be walking down for a card game.
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>>181942629
>5 pp 4/3 Ambush
>Fanfare: Destroy all enemy followers with at least 5 attack.
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>>181942359
What does she even counter anymore? Spawn is ambushed. Aegis, B&B, and Timmy are invulnerable to removal. Aggro overruns you with 2-4 power followers. She's basically only run as a 4/3 ambush to hit face, that sometimes creates good tempo.
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>>181942359
>Tsubaki
>6pp 4/3 ambush conditional removal of single enemy follower
>Spawn
>6pp 6/7 ambush 12-16 damage to the enemy face next turn
Uhhh shadowbabs?
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>>181935850
/hsg/ is only up to our speed because a new expansion just got annouced for them. I honestly thought there threads would be much faster but it looks like they don't give a shit anymore.
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>>181941780
>self reported'
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>>181943280
Spawn is never 6pp, it's either 8pp on its own or 5pp from Baphomet
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>>181943280
b-but you need bapho first which is a turn 5 do nothing :^)
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>>181943304
cam't believe that for being the #1 online card game, their thread is fucking dead
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>>181943351
Lies, every time I play against blood it always comes out on turn 6
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>>181943264
I kinda wish cygames would go back and buff a few old legendaries.

Make an expansion just for anti-powercreep and try and fix some of your old standard cards.
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>>181943304
HS is played by normalfags, it has a huge following on facecuck, reddit, discord, and the official blizzard forums.
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>>181943563
Meant to reply to >>181943416
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>>181943563
In Japan this is the normie game and HS is played by westaboos
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>>181942568
Play ramp dragon dipshit.

Ramp, drop baha turn 10. The opponent has no response to that, drop genesis and win. That' how I win my dragon dailies.
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>>181943351
let's say it's a 6PP but you also get a free goblin if you run it
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>>181942568
Unranked is pointless in this game.
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Playing CBlood now...is there seriously no reliable counter to Spawn?

I didnt get any leggoes so far except for one Snow White, it feels depressing in Ranked so far
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>>181943873
R-revelation?
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>>181935850
Hearthstone is the better game now desu, but it's pretty ridiculous how much you have to spend to get into it as a new player.
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>>181943930
Stays at 1 hp if you evolve it beforehand.
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>>181943974
Just realized that, Cygames is filled with retards.
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>>181943930
if they don't evolve it
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>>181943873
>playing anything control

Stopped reading there.

You're stupid and need to suffer.
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I dunno why everyone complains so much, spawn is a memey legendary :^)
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Anyone tried playing that daria\oz deck from game-ai? Is it fun\good?
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>>181944067
I do use Revelation but if you stay in your 10s, then it basically opens you up to lethal from another spawn of the abyss or a storm card

Damned if you do, damned if you dont and thats the depressing part unless you happen to have a ton of wards on the board

>>181944169
Its not like I decide what cards I get from packs you know

Besides, lets say you play aggro or a faster deck against Spawn Neutral deck, they might still pull it out by turn 6 and their early game curve with those neutrals are good enough to not lose against fast decks
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>>181944303
All Rune decks are meme.

Anything with Oz is a bad meme.

Aggro earth/neutral witch are the only viable ones. Neither utilizes Oz or Daria.
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Nerf spawn to 4 atk. Then he'll be more balanced
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>>181944546
you'll have to nerf it's damage effect too
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>>181944471
Aggro dirtrune runs oz tho
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>>181944427
You don't choose but you craft cards you need. There's no "control" when neutral has a stronger board presence and better removal power. There's literal no point in playing c'anything' decks unless you're a hipster.
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>>181944634
He just did?
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>>181942568
>all meta decks
>single Blood
>no Haven
B rank?
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>>181944652
Only the meme variants.

If you remove her it makes literal 0 difference only if you want to use mutagen for 1 cost. I don't think you want to waste 3.5k vials just for that.
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>Made a Vengeance-y Bloodcraft for fun and have been sticking with it for months
>Now associated with bandwagoning Spawn shitters
Fug
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>>181944173
This desu. Just craft spawn and play with it and you will see that it isn't as strong as you thought.

Edit: Thank you.
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>>181944756
>Rank
>Unranked
:thinking:
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>>181944693
no he didn't. the damage effect isn't tied to it's attack
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>>181944793
You're retarded, dirtrune was always known for running out of steam quick, she not only allows you to refill your hand efficientlly but also let's you play all your burn spells for 1 mana
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>>181943707
>durr just play ramp
The point is trying to play fun new cards while doing dailies, not play the same boring old shit from previous expansions. Too bad you lose to hyper aggro garbage trying to have fun ever.

>>181944756
>if it's not the strongest decks in the game it's not meta
t. a retard
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>>181945008
Oh shit, you're right.
>>
Why is this game so fucked right now? I mean I was here because I wanted to get away from the unholy rng and never ending game of obnoxious reno dropping here and there right before lethal. I never expect that a short game will be as boring as a long ass game until I met this wonderful creature named Alice (and her subordinate goblin leader and Feria). That said, hearthstone improved a lot and steal some of shadowverse's idea like giving double gold for completing quest for a limited time. However it is not enough to get me back into that game which contain rng. There is a chance, however small but is getting bigger recently, that I will finally give up this game and fall into the Jewish claws of Blizzard once again.

So I asked you, my friends without names, what can cygames do at the end of this month and more importantly, down the road in their designs to prevent horrible things happening not only to me, but also other hearthfugee here?
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>>181945010
>refill your hand
>can't add more than 5 cards
>if she dies it dispels your spells
>if she doesn't bring spells she's useless

lol

Just use fucking melvile instead dumbass
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>>181945083
>The point is trying to play fun new cards while doing dailies

Which is why I'm telling to play ramp retard.

The new dragon cards are ass. All of them.
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>>181945219
Fuck Spawn and the more shittarded neutral cards in the butthole, give incentive to actually use craft card based decks and not neutral shit next expansion
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>>181945219
Bite the bullet any nerf legendaries

They had to nerf shadow TWICE because Eachtar was too powerful. The only reason he isn't seen anymore is because Spawn and Alice are too powerful.

Nerf all three of them to be honest and then we see how the meta plays out.
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So, anybody is saying nuts to all of this and just not playing? I thought about grinding to Grand Masters but after seeing the meta and my refusal to join the Abyss bandwagon where games are simply decided on who puts down Spawn first in a Neutral Blood meta? (Meaning you will see alot of mirrors) I think I am going to resume my waiting, I was never much for e-peen anyway

>>181944687
My bad I guess, control blood looked interesting so I made it for my dailies, only then to realize it is suffering in match ups against Neutral Blood(which is likely the majority of my games) even if it does fare well against other neutral decks I have seen so far
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>>181945219
Even with rng I would rather play Hearthstone at this point, because at least there games are not decided by who goes first and there is a much bigger possibility of making an actual comeback.
I'm sad to say this, but this game right now is literally worse than cuckstone.

> what can cygames do at the end of this month and more importantly, down the road in their designs to prevent horrible things
The game is unfixable at this point, it has been falling down since RoB due to increasingly retarded decisions and blatant powercreep.
To fix this game, you would literally need to roll this game back to DE.
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>>181945219
>now

heh
>>
DUDE BUFF 12 FOLLOWERS LMAO
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>>181945219
>Why is this game so fucked right now?
No it isn't. It's just tryhard faggots who powerleveled to Masters that are complaining
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Say cygames notices that there are too many OP legendarys and nerfs multiple ones in a attempt to balance the game. Which ones would be nerfed?
Obviously Spawn, Eachtar and Alice
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>>181945776
>you're enjoying the game wrong
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>>181945731
It only buffs neutrals, so its balanced

Not like there's a perfect curve for neutrals nowadays with all the new cards and its not like there's a card that turns all cards into your hand into neutrals.

Its balanced.
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>>181945219
In SV you get cancer for free, but in HS you have to pay for it. If SV gets too unbearable it's good bye to online CCGs for me.

As for the bottom question, I think they have to touch legos, and quite a few neutral cards to "fix" the game as it is right now. Or they could just straight up rotate the last two expansions away. :^)
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> only took me two hours to finish my win 1 rune daily

wew
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>>181945776
>t. monthly bandwagonner who is currently playing spawn
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Does this Control Sword craze even count as Control Sword
It plays more like midrange
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>>181945862
Snow White certainly toes the line of being OP
I think if the card had a "can only attack the enemy leader and followers with ward" it'd be perfectly balanced.
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>>181945267
>stupid opinion
>reddit spacing
Nothing left to argue with (you).
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>>181945967
Neutral engine? Burn rune?

Don't tell me you were D-shitting
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Spawn + Baphomet nerf when??
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>>181945862
>Spawn and Alice have perfect stats for their cost
What were they thinking?
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>>181945967
>playing ranked instead of fishing high roll in unranked
>>
>that feel when the nerfs for this expansion are ridiculously simple
>cygames still wont be able to do them correctly, or at all because of their don't nerf leggos mantra

Make tavo a 3/2 without rush or a 3/1 with rush
Make Ferra and Alice give +1/+0.
Make Goblin Leader a 4 PP.
Make BKB a 5 PP card (this impacts sabruer as well)
Remove Spawns damage on death.
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>>181946178

I was switching between burn and d-shift and finally won with d-shift against some neutral spawn who bricked pretty hard
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>>181946271
But Spawn has -1/-1 from a on-curve 8 drop so its "balanced"
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Is it possible that Rune might come out as the chemo to this meta?

They have Winter's Caprice and Mutagenic Bolt, but right now people havent been able to put together a truly refined Rune deck to deal with decks other than Abyss Blood
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>>181946604
Nope. Drown yourself, tumor.
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>>181946604
Rune teching against spawn killed NepNep

You can't win if your morde's are rats.
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>>181945083
do you know what "meta" means?
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>>181911629
>everyone now runs Samecraft
why even bother playing anymore. Neutral is as
disgusting as Spawn especially Alice, Goblin Leader and Grimnir(10) need to fuck off
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will knightspam will ever be viable again?
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>>181946907
because fuck you that's why

t. KMR
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>>181944471
This guy got GM on DShift https://twitter.com/MA69668606/status/883190924263563264
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>>181946604

those won't do shit when you're getting swarmed by goblin cock at the same time
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>>181946697
DShift is barely playable, Dirt Rune is never meta and Dorothy is unable to keep up with the meta

I personally always hated Rune actually but shouldnt everything be given a break once in a while? Abyss Blood + Neutral manages to be even more oppresive and thats astonishing
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>>181946907
Because she's understatted :^)
Oh what's that? She has bane? Please don't pay attention to that.
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>>181946946

automatically loses to spawn on turn 7
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>>181946802
>meta means tier 1 decks only
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>>181945219

NERF
LEGENDARIES
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>>181946946
He played a fair bit of blood, you can see it in his timeline
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>>181947123
Pretty sure that Winter's Caprice and Erasmus are meant for Spawn
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>>181947187
apparently you don't
>>
If they had just nerfed Otohime all that time ago, we wouldn't be in this mess
>>
>Shadowverse has nearly lost all of the new players that picked up the game on steam in just over a week

o

i am laffin'
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>>181947419
We'd still be stuck with Roach, Dshift, and Themis
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>>181947357
>all the people who reached grandmasters with Rune and Sword aren't playing meta decks because Spawn is the strongest deck in the game
This is how retarded you sound. Just stop posting you idiot.
>>
Let me ask you something. You said that nerfing legendary like spawn alice eachtar is the way to fix this game. But if you think about it carefully, isn't that just gonna make more bandwagoners every new expansion since they know that they can just unvial the legendary once the nerf bat hit? The meta will only consist of one class if they go down that road.
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>>181947419
Explain?

>>181947480
Surely Cygames knows this? Or is SV still strong in JP?
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>>181947553
nice strawman my dude, really epic
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>>181947559
Probably thinking the AoE damage would have remained lower and buffs too if Otohime's board flood had only 1 hp or made less followers.
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>>181947558
>The meta will only consist of one class if they go down that road.
lol
Fuck off Cygames employee
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Who wins, Ridge Soldier or Lilac?
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>>181933070
T6 Tribunal/Themis
T7 Monastic x3
T8 Seraph

Maybe don't leave follower on board T6 onward when you predict that he's gonna drop Spawn. Anyway you're pretty much done if you don't have Snow White, Scripture and Tribunal early game.
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>turn 3 lurching + conversion his mage of nightfall
>turn 4 lurching + conversion his mage of nightfall
>starts roping and then disconnects
Never change, Runebabs.
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>>181947559
>Explain?
They fucked themselves in the ass with that never nerf legendaries policy.
>Otohime is oppressive
>print millions of counters to her in RoB
>kill every single Zoo deck in the game
>the only decks that play on board that can survive are decks that spam fat followers like Daria
>add more board clear
>the only decks that play on board that can survive are decks with infinite board spam like Mid Shadow
>add more board clear
>make Neutrals that buff their board so that they can kill you before board clears that can deal with their followers can even be played
I wonder what will be the next step.
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>>181946946
There's also a guy who to GM with csword.

Nips are autistic and will play this day and night until they get to GM, period. Statistically wise decks don't have 0% winrate so if you keep playing like a madman you can actually achieve granted enemies can brick, do stupid decisions, go second etc. The point is are you autsitic enough to be like those guys or do you want to make it easier and less stressful and simply play neutral blood?
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How many crystals do I have to buy to stop bricking
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Wow, reading this thread is depressing. I quit at ROB due to school but still gained enjoyment from playing against Daria
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>>181948015
If you are attacking as the turn player, White Ridge should activate first.
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>>181948015
The one who's attacking.
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>>181941631
Okay fampais, changed my dick up a bit.

How's this?

I swear I didn't craft the Spawn, only included it because I don't know what else to have as a wincon.

Not shown: Revelation x2
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>>181948148
>gained enjoyment from playing against Daria
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>>181948061
They also added followers that are immune to destroy effects but can be traded into to avoid single card answers like DoD and Themis.
>I wonder what will be the next step.
That's a reason why I'm sticking with this for at least another expansion.
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>>181948061
cards that negate buffed stats obviously that can be played fairly early.
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>Emeralda is a straight up better Falise
defend this bloodwagoners
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>>181946037
>Bronze Princess Snow White
lol
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>>181947638
Trying to tell me that neutral aggro is not "meta" because it isn't in Blood just means you're a fucking idiot.
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>>181948370
Good luck with your sub 40% winrate.
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>>181948410
I knew it was broken, but then again I was playing Aggro Blood/Sword and Ramp Dragon
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>>181948370
Put Sabreur in there somewhere. Wouldn't really advise Moriana x3 or Squall Lancer
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>>181935847
Most probably burn themselves out on the grind. Top Master score people are pretty nuts though.
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>>181948516
So next expansion is silence haven/rune, huh.
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>>181948645
>or Squall Lancer
Is she a bad card?
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LANDS OF WONDERS LMAO
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>tfw 14 damage lethal with Arriet on turn 7
>against spawn
This feels so good.
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>>181949035
he should've Draconic Fervor'd before conceding
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How can I fix this deck?
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>>181949035
I would've conceded on turn 4 after that Alice. Jesus fuck Cygames.
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>>181948993
She's not bad but I think Sabreur would be better in the 5PP slot. You lack heals like Righteous Devil or Diabolic Drain so the 2HP from her could be a big deal.
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>>181949035
>not clearing anything from the alise board
>letting it reach turn 5
>not even using evos
mom
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>>181949213
do you want storm or lion? don't run both or you'll gimp yourself
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>>181949213
Remove Ancient lions, they're useless
Honestly I'd remove cudgel, his time has finally passed
Your deck looks like its aiming to end the game earlier, so I'd remove GRIM- and replace with goblin leader for lion synergy. Or maybe just angel of the word, maybe even kaiza
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>>181949213
>lion with only 6 actually 9 but irrelevant by the time you want lion to go down neutrals
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>>181949035
Step up senpai
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>>181949557
Gosh Feria is disgusting.
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>>181949410
He killed my first and second drop but he didn't have an answer for my gobin leader so he instantly loses. Isn't this game great?
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>>181949213
If you're not full netural then don't use lions. They won't do shit. Use moon bunnies instead.

Also remove ancient lion and add 2 themis. Because of Alice 2 damage because useless. Remove priest + Urd and add 3 tribunals. Same reason.

Replace Mainyu for Rino. I'd also replace Unica for Lirial.
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>>181949557
What in the name of dicks is this
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>>181949509
The fact that Cudgel can't work is really sign of how things have become.
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>>181948061
>what will be the next step
More board clears obviously. Ones that can deal with Alice and Feria.
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>>181949410
Its dragon, do you honestly think he has any followers below 4pp to use those evolves on?
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>>181949796
yeah man I also like winning against bricking opponents with a perfect curve haha
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Get rekt spawnnigger. He even baphomet on t5.

Why do they all just sit on their evolves. He was facing 10 (12) damage in board alone.
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just tech against it bro
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>>181949947
All thanks to Alice.

3 damage clears will become the new default next expac.
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>>181950060
Khawy is a shit tech unless you can trigger him straight away or you have more than 8hp.
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>>181949557
>turn 4 lethal
At last I truly see
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>>181950164
I was at 10hp.
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>>181949296
Hm, noted, here's what I have now. Ended up crafting Belphegor since I wanted her for a while and I needed a 4 drop or similar to replace the Moriana.

Any better?

Spawn x1 Revelation x2
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>>181950072
>yfw forest is the only class without 2PP 3 damage clear
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>>181950265
just elf twin assault/pixie mischief bro
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>>181949557
Poor frog cuck.

Nah fuck him
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>>181950265
b-but muh play 2 cards this turn mechanics!!1!!444
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>>181950336
>random followers
Lmao
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>>181950246
>crafting belphegor against the goblin menace

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
>>
>>181950237
Oh shit I didn't notice the Grimnir. Tough luck pal.
>>
>>181949509
>>181949931

Yeah, I seem to never be able to use the ancient lions since I use my evo points on the tin man a lot. Also, the Lion of the Golden city has actually helped me out a lot, so I might keep him for a while longer and see how that runs. I guess I will remove the priests and ancient lions though for sure as they do seem to brick me a lot. I'll replace the Unica for Lyria and mainyu for Rino those do sound like better cards. Will probably replace the grims for the angels and check that out. I do need to craft more themis and tribunals though.
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>>181949097
>against spawn
>turn 6
I don't see spawn
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>>181950265
>4pp Forestcraft Spell
>Deal damage to all enemy followers equal to the number of cards in your hand.
I'm waiting for this to be on the next expansion. Do it KMR, I need to play PtP again.
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>>181950410
fug
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>>181950170
One off
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>>181950461
If you still think you'll need turn 4 double removal Teena can replace Cudgel and it supports lion of the golden city.
You might be able to get away without themis but it'd be tough.
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>>181950246
>crafting belph when kys is dead
>>
We should have a card to neutralize ambush... seriously
>>
>>181950072
Eggplosion already exist.
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>>181950831
>just Lightning Bla-
Oh..
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>>181950831
>they release one
>its blood only
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>>181950790
Well I guess I can just use something else, lotta decent cards I think.
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>>181950565
>massively better WotF for 1pp less
Nothing in the game has even come close to that much powercreep, it'd have to hit your board too at the bare minimum. It's fine though, at this rate they'll print exactly what you said anyway but only for each neutral in hand
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>>181950565
Come on, you know that won't happen. Next expansion would be haven or rune. Probably both, since they got good stuff this time, but not enough to be tier 0.
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>>181950736
Hmm I see. Yeah I noticed I have 0 Themis and 0 Tribunals, sadness. Guess I'll put in Teena and see how else I can manage. Maybe I can craft 1 or 2 cards but I am beginning to go low on vials.
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>>181951004
>haven not tier 0 this expansion
In my opinion haven needs a nerf more than blood does.
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>>181950995
Sure, make it hit allied followers too. Fuck it, make it deal 2 damage to my face too and call it a day. But give forest a fucking board clear that isn't complete shit when compared to every other one.
>>
89545 need concece
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>>181950831
5pp neutral destroy random creature. There, fixed the meta.
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>>181951213
t. bloodnigger
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>>181951213
t. bloodnigger
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>>181951380
>>181951391
heh
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>neutral spawn gets nerfed
>control blood will become a thing and just run spawns as a second wincon
Fuck this game
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>>181951137
Since it looks like you plan on having a board, using themis could be counter productive. Though in the event where you've been shut down and have no board themis could possibly save you.
Iron maiden can be a budget card to use in place of tribunal but its not perfect. Its decent against spawn and weaker board flood but with all the buffs going around it may not kill. Also can't clear wards for lethal since its end of turn.
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>>181951469
Does Cblood have a first wincon?
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>>181951469
>control blood
>2nd wincon
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>>181950060
>turn 10
You have done a good job surviving that far.
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>>181951469
>control blood will remain mediocre
FTFY
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>>181951372
>neutral
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>181951469
Control Blood is still shit.
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>>181951213
Haven isn't tier 0 exactly because neutral blood exists. If blood would be nerfed, then for the rest of the expansion it would be only aegis haven, neutral haven, and storm haven. And may be some elana. Either way, rune would get something ridiculous for sure, since this time they only got one garbage legendary and one decent/good.
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>>181951517
hm then would you say it's worth crafting at least some tribunals? Should I go for at least 2 for now until I can acquire more vials?
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>>181951721
>Daria was not enough
Never underestimate the greed from runecancer.
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>>181951574
Yeah making your opponent run out of cards and conceding
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>>181951736
If you're dedicated to the deck and have the vials yeah
I'd say tribunal is the better crafting choice then themis either way
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>>181951469
>cblood
>2nd wincon
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>>181951907
Really spellboosts my d shifts
Really assembles my skyknights
Really heavenly my aegisi
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>>181951950
yeah that's the thing I am not sure where I wanna go for now as I am still new to haven, I have some other decks I need to fix up/work on some more too like my Dirt Burn Rune and my Shadow deck. But, I think I can afford at least 1600 vials.
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>>181952090
Really rites my earth.
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>ran into a blood deck that ran spawns and bahamuts

haha

oh wow

this is happening huh
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>>181952090
>>181952142
Really *unintelligible bug noises*
Really roars my dragons
Really Urd's my Morde's
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>>181952090
really shifts my dimensions
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>>181952123
Tribunal is a fairly safe crafting choice if anything.
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>>181952287
Kek, I'm stealing this one
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>>181952532
>>181952532
>>181952532

NEW THREAD
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>>181952381
yea thanks! I crafted 2 and it's already putting in work!
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>>181951853
>Kys blood was not enough
I mean, seriously, can you believe that forest would get something after that expansion? They clearly showed that they don't care about forest anymore. So, logically, it should be either rune or haven next expansion. Haven already got 2 good legendaries, awesome amulet that would probably be played for at least one more expansion, and they still have aegis. So, probably rune would get something as a compensation for the generic legendaries this time.
Well, there's still a chance of some new turn 5 seraph or something, since 7 turns is way too long now.
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