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Old Thread: >>181911125
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First for Elf freedom.
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Shadownigger
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>>181952532
cute boy
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>>181952620
is this for real
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Can I get a non concede please

26092
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Do you rike it?
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>>181952749
I rike it
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>>181952664
fuck off discord
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>>181952749
I hope you get used to your job at burger king with how badly you're driving this game into the ground.
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>>181952901
i didn't post vampy :^)
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>>181952971
you mean Claudia
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Anyone else have dreams of beating the shit out of Alice then hatefucking her afterwards?
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The top deck in the game that is collectively considered tier 0 cancer has a sub-50 winrate when going second
Defend this
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KMR asks you which craft should be tier 0 and which craft should get meme garbage in the next expansion, what do you tell him?
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Streams do show nice shit sometimes...
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>>181952743
arigatou arisa sama
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>>181953259
>homosexuality is copyrighted by discord
you're going too far anon
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>>181953198
we've been memeing with hamsamill for a week already
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APOLOGIZE
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>>181953174
>most played deck
>goes against itself
>loses if second
don't need to defend anything.
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>>181953174
Well, it's going second in the mirror so...
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>>181953360
>want to duckmill
>no sibyls for ramp
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>>181953198
Duckmill is way too unreliable.
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>>181953441
No. It all went downhill with you. Then came eachtar, now spawn.
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>>181953358
>/svg/ discord is mostly made up of homosexual furfaggots and astolfo worshippers
>/svg/ discord is known for crossposting and shitting up the general
>b-b-but don't suspect the homo posters
>i-it's just a coincidence bro
Nice try
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tfw
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>>181953008
Who is Claudia? I keep seeing this name. Is she a twin of Vania from GBF or something?
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>>181953626
literal autism
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>>181953638
cygames should burn
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>>181953175
I don't care about tier 0 anymore after those two expansions, but all the memes are for Rowen. He's the only one who actually can make them work. I still can't forgive shadow for all that ToG stuff, but I already love Rowen again with his duckmills.
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>>181953625
Dariashitter fuck off, it wall went downhill from Daria, stop trying to change the history of the game to fit your narrative
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>>181953664
>t. discord
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>>181953742
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>>181953664
then stop replying you faggot
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>>181953759
RoB was completely fine.
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>>181953881
t. Roachshitter
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>>181953641
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>>181953759
>>181953625
It won't was roach that fucked everything up you idiots. Why do you think they had to nerf Roach for?
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>>181953759
Daria got nerfed, compared to Eachtar
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Good old days are standard, DE and RoB before the nerf.
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>>181953963
they only nerfed piercing rune
>>181953978
>before the nerf
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>>181953946
Daria deck was nerfed too you idiot
>>181953963
No you baboon other than Skullfane a lego has never been nerfed, Piercing Rune was nerfed
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>>181953978
>before the nerf.
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>>181953978
Yes, good ol' days.
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>>181953978
>RoB before the nerf
Fuck off forestcuck.
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>>181953759
Wrong idiot. Albert is the best leggo from RoB, he can fit into any sword deck because he's that good, he needs no deck built around him like Daria.
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If you are bored and want to fuck around in T2:

easy mode: you are allowed to freely choose the first and last pair,but after the first pair you have to choose the other side's pair,
1st pair: right, 2nd pair:left, 3rd pair: right ,etc..., last pair:whatever
1st pair: left, 2nd pair: right, 3rd pair: left,etc...
last pair:whatever

hard mode:the same thing but you cannot choose freely the last pair either

have fun
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>>181953963
Daria was not nerfed but piercing rune was. Piercing rune is still the nut. They need to nerf crimson sorcery. No way it is 1PP when thorn burst is 2PP.

>>181953943
But why?
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>>181954167
take two is a mess right now
3 drops everywhere, rarely get 2s
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I want to fuck Arisa.
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>>181954258
>But why?
Ask the french translation staff.
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>>181954154
Was Sword ever nerfed? No? Then fuck off, fucking Diarrhoea shitter.
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>>181954320
i'm actually sure that everyone wanted to fuck her when i was new to this general
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>>181954347
They don't need to nerf sword, ever. As long as forest is in the dumpster so is sword. If you want to nerf sword you touch forest.
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>>181952749
Thank you.
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>>181954347
it was nerfed in a sense that printing mass removals left and right is a nerf
can't wait for the next expansion
>themis and tribunals for everyone
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All right what are some old,new forest decks that are recommended for a beginner?
I hope i don't have to go full neutral engine to have a chance,right?
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>>181954320
Well she's been fucked for at least 3 expansions now.
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>>181954735
>3 expansions
>RoB
>Fucked
Dumb forestfag can't count, maybe that's why you think Roach is so hard.
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>>181954347
Yes it was called ToG midshadow. Love how you keep calling me a dariashitter when I actually main sword and rune is my least played craft. It's easy to see how Albert was the first great finisher in the game and was OP so they came up with more OP leggos to make him seem normal now.
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>>181954725
in beginner almost no one is running optimized decks. if you want to have a chance ranking up to masters you'll have to go neutral wolfbolt
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>>181954320
>fapping to none dark elves
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>>181954889
You need THREE (3) conditions to have Albert lethal. Now you tell me how the fuck is that not balanced? You could argue perhaps that him having the (9) enhance as well as being normally 5PP makes him too versatile, but that's the problem of enhance cards, not Albert.
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>>181954806
>he believes Cygames intentionally printed Gobu + Feena to support Roach
ayy
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>>181954806
>thinking they gave forest good card in RoB
No gobu and Feena are neutral cards plus they were never intended for forest anyway according to the devs.
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>>181954975
Well i have already seen spawn and eagis decks in C0.While i have fuckall cards.
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>>181955050
So which is it
Is cygames incompetent or evil?
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>>181955150
Those are sandbaggers. Just leave them be. They will never achieve anything in live.
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spoonfeed me aggro spawn so that I may bandwagon my way to masters
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>>181955028
In RoB those conditions are easily achieved because swords plethora of rush and storm cards
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is this a VA or something
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>>181955297
>x3 spawn
>x3 baphomet
>hit dat muddahfuckin auto fill
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>>181955329
So list the three conditions that I am talking about, let's see if you even know what the three conditions are.
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>>181955179
Both. This game is doomed unless they give forest 55% winrate and equal playrate among all classes across the board next expansion.
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>>181955297
Just watch what 80% of the ladder plays, it's not difficult to figure out what the deck needs.
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>>181955297
>getting masters in a dead game
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>>181954347
They nerfed Albert by deleting turn 9 from the game.
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>>181953638
>this could be literally any class in the game
What a wonderful expansion
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>>181955532
They actually deleted turns 10, 9 and even 8 from the game with Eachtar, so why even introduce Aegis then?
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>>181955395
>no gobbu
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>>181954571
>Thanking this motherfucker for making the game essentially have 2 viable decks
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Why do you continue to play this kuso game, /svg/? It is only going to get worse from here.
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They nerfed roach and AE by printing Grimnir.

Also Crystalia Tia disappear from all the lists now. Hard to imagine she was an auto include leggo just some time ago.
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>>181955625
and now they deleted T7 with spawn
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>>181955847
>>181955625
Takeshi really has to get to work on time.
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>>181955847
A good curve into Alice already deletes turn 5 from the game altogether.
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>>181955960
Just close the game then wtf
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>>181952532
Why is she such a meme card.
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>Finish Luna's story
>"Should Luna kill herself?"
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>>181955785
>implying I still play shadowverse
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>>181956113
She should really go join her mother and father. Asap.
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>>181954645
>powercreeping is considered nerfing now
Why don't you just stop?
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Funny how control is fucking dead, because of how overtuned the new aggro/midrange decks are

Finally the japanese salaryman can finish their missions on their way to work without any worries to face a control deck ever, who might take the game to *gasp* turn 8
Imagine the horror
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>>181956250
an indirect nerf is still a nerf, and it's not exactly powercreep
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>>181956252
>control
There are no control decks in this game. Only aggro and midrange.
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defend this
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Need a Concede: 91917
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>>181956674
It's okay because running a neutral deck is having it's downsides :^)
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>>181956674
>he still plays vampireverse
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>>181954987
Dark elves best fap elves
>>181956674
Garuda is crying
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>>181956674
b-b-but it's our turn to be cancer!!!
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>>181956674
Thank you
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>>181956674
Vengence Blood was never meant to be tier 1.
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>>181955403
You're too vague. You can have Albert lethal on t5 if they did nothing. I'll assume you're talking about a t9 Albert lethal.
>enemy have 6 hp and no ward
>enemy have 10 hp, no ward and you have an evo
Alberts stat spread is also great, if you kept the enemy board clear and managed to do a t5 evo Albert to face, if they didn't have hard removal they might as well quit because few cards can trade into 7hp on t5.
Stop being such a Albert fanboy, he's was op, still is but it doesn't seem that way because you got turn 4-5 wins with Alice engine, Eachtar doing everything, and t6 18 damage to face man. If the game slows down everyone will be bitching about him again
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>>181956674
>haven not in tier 1 with blood
This list is garbage. They need to nerf spawn and haven.
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>>181956674
It's okay because blood does it, but fuck shadow!!
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>>181956772
>our turn
It's like you dumb vampy posters forget vengenace was tier 1 last expansion.
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>>181956821
>he thinks haven is bloods counter

o i am laffin
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>>181956829
Where does M. Bison fit into this picture?
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>>181956906
you're right
my post was ironic, in case you didn't notice
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>>181956703
Thank you Mama Forte!
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>>181956674
doesn't matter what the meta is everyone will complain, last meta people cried about shadowniggers, now people crying about bloodniggers, next meta people are gonna cry about forestniggers.
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>>181956968
He doesn't. SFX leaders were a mistake and I try my best to pretend they're not real.
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>>181956829
Eat your vegetables, Luna.
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Let's be honest with each other here.

Can this kusoge be salvaged?
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>>181956772
>craft becomes t1
>their posters get cocky as fuck
happens without fail
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>>181956910
Haven is not a direct counter, doesn't make it less cancerous. I would rather have spawnverse for 3 months than having a haven meta because they nerf blood.
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>>181957046
everyone will complain because all the metas tend to be shit
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>>181956821
>crying about Haven
Aegis loses to D-Shift and Ramp Dragon.
Storm can be defeated by control and faster aggro.
Neutral Lion is a more inconsistent Daria.
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>>181957128
this is bait right
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>>181957128
>he thinks haven doesn't lose to neutral blood as well

the laughs do not stop my bros
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>>181957175
Exactly, and that's not just for this game. That's for every game ever.
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>>181957120
also yes I know you're being sarcastic
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ALICE TOOK MUSHROOM AND HAD ORGIES WITH GOBLINS
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>>181957271
>what is MtG
>what is YGO before it got cuhrayzee
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>>181956816
Of course I am talking about T9 Albert.
The three conditions are
>no wards on the opponent's board
>opponent has 10HP or less
>evo point
Now, how is this not balanced compared to Eachtar and Spawn? If you are going to complain about the enhance, you are not complaining about Albert, but about the enhance mechanic itself instead.
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>scripture
>scripture
>tribunal
>scripture
fuck you too
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>>181957364
You just proved my case.
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>>181957364
mtg is a mess
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>>181957402
muh chemo
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Does storm haven still use jeanne?
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>>181957397
why did you feel the need to reiterate all of this when the post you're replying to already stated most of it
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>>181957475
jeanne no longer kills anything
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>>181957475
>boosting goblins even more
no
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>>181957475
Nope.

Ferra and Alice made cards like Dark Jeanne and Ancient Lion Spirit obsolete.
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72128

concede pls!
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>>181957364
>what is MtG
>what is Felidar Guardian
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I want to go to an onsen with Jeanne!
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>>181957549
To confirm that Albert is balanced.
>>181957596
>tfw crafted 3x Dark Jeannes in Tempest
Storm Haven is dead. Garuda is crying.
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>>181957629
thanks friendo!
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>>181957397
Albert is weaker than Eachtar and Spawn but he is still not a balanced card. Those two are even more imbalanced but don't think you can get Albert off the hook because he's been powercreeped on.
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>>181957694
Neutral storm Haven with Lion is bretty good
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>>181957845
>neutral
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>>181957694
I'll say that D.Jeanne has situational uses even in this meta of buffed followers. Sometimes, you just want to get rid of some unbuffed goblins with an surprise RKO Jeanne.
She's no longer an Auto x3 include like Snow White is now, but I tech at least one of her in my Aegis list.
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>>181957845
Now if only I pulled Lion or any other lego instead of 5x Woes... Really makes you think.
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>>181957962
Something the matter?
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>>181958231
Neutral storm haven is inconsistent garbo
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>all forms of board clear kill fairies
>meanwhile all other cards has adapt and getting stronger to avoid a wipe from 1 board clear

Any suggestions to make fairies more beefy? Preferably so that all the fairies won't die to just one voard clear like thermis or salamander. Can't make it too OP though.
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>>181958434
Liza
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>>181958503
I hope they upped Liza's buff and make it Lecia's buff. Then make the buff permanent.
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>>181958434
A BLESSING
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>>181958669
Did you perhaps mean to post Cybele
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DEAD
GENERAL
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>start playing around with forest again
>pull BnB from daily pack

I think it's trying to tell me something.
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>>181958725
If only cybele gives +1/+1 to your hand and board.
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>>181958774
>faster than 90% of the generals
>dead
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>>181958780
You know what to do friend.
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>go first and curve verse

there's literally no thinking left in this shithouse game man

don't think just play cards on curve
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>>181959054
>dont think just play cards on curve
so post-nerf ROB sword?
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>>181955785
I still enjoy it in small doses. But then I pretty much meme in unranked and completely disregard ranked.
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>>181959310
fuck off forestcuck
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>he still plays shadowverse
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>>181959054
>don't think just play cards on curve
I don't understand this complaint
>people spend their mana and play cards
So?
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>Used to have plenty of fun, enough to even grind ranked to 10k during TotG
>can barely play two or three games before I just get bored or frustrated
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Need a concede

14318
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>>181953943
I can get Vania because you know Transilvania, but Claudia?

Explain it to me frenchfags.
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>>181955785
If you don't care much about winning it's a great time to play meme decks. There's only one top tier you need to tech for and a lot of meme cards to play around with.
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>>181959405
guess again
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>>181957475
Nope, like most people said when she originally got revealed she's too situational. She became good because Shadow was spamming 1/1s and 2/2s, but along with ancient lion she's ded in this meta.
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>>181959520
>fun in ToG
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>>181959545
Thanks mom
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>>181959520
End your life runecancer/ungasword
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>>181959770
>rune
>sword
>totg

uh
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>>181954258
>But why?
Vania is the name of a brand of menstrual pads in France. Why didn't they use the original nip name instead? I don't know.
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I like this deck
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>>181959909
I like this loli
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>>181959909
You know what you have to do about your own life, right?
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>>181959909
Low to mid Master is such a meme land, I fought some weird Dshift wannabe, Carbosse Blood and Fairy Driver Forest earlier.
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>>181959520

just uninstall, you'll feel much better
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>>181959909
>that skeleton token
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>>181960202
Rejoice in it and have fun because you only live once?
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>>181959909
nice coinflip deck anon, I hope you enjoy 10 losses in a row tomorrow
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>>181960232
Bullshit. I'm playing blood mirrors 24/7 to the point I don't want to touch this game.
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>>181961329
>mirrors
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ded game
ded general
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>>181962138
good riddance to both
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POST LUNA
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>>181962649
Post Luna and Mordecai together
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Cerberus pleases ningen for money.
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>>181962649
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>>181962908
>luna's face
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Where are the retards crying over dragon? the only craft besides haven that can deal with aggro is now a joke
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OH BOY
TIME TO SMASH THAT MOTHERFUCKING CONCEDE BUTTON
OUTSKILLED
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Ded game
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>>181963591
Happened to me as soon as you posted that. Thanks fag.
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>>181957659
>Playing standard
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>>181963718
There's still 5k people playing on Steam, which seems like way too many for the current state this game is in.
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>>181963591
Funny how quickly everyone concedes in this meta, because the game is literally decided after 3 to 4 turns
I sometimes concede on mulligan and I had people concede on their mulligan aswell
It started being like this in ToG, although not as extreme as it is right now
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>>181964005
>one week after the xpac release
That's a fairly generous number, to be honest. It's going to keep plummeting even lower in the next month.
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looks good / looks like shit?
>don't want to craft snow white
>only have 1 themis
help me out
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>>181964005
1 of 5k is me playing solo daily 2 mins a match :^)
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>>181964468
craft themis poteau clover
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>>181964468
Either go with the full Lion package or don't run him at all. Run more Themis.
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>>181964792
duly noted
>>181964834
so 3x themis?
what do you mean full lion package? I've got plenty of neutrals in there. Eaguru man?

Also I was thinking to remove disciple, too many 4 drops. What do you think?
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>>181964468
>all those haven cards
>3 hector
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>>181963591
>blood goes first
>didn't redraw
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>>181965210
uhm yeah I think you are right only half of the deck is neutral I think it should be at least 70%
I'll swap it with eaguru man
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>>181965060
>what do you mean full lion package?
From what I've seen every Haven runs 3x Aria, Tribunal and Tea Party, consider cutting Death Sentence and maybe Iron Maiden, depending on how much trouble you're having with Spawn after you've acquired 3x Themis. Consider investing into the the Snow White and Hound package
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27322
Let's fight till the end.
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>>181964005
People doing solo missions and turning it off 5 minutes later isn't really alive.
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>>181964468
Why no EAGLE EAGLE!!!
He fits in your horrible neutral deck.
Screw you for running neutral stuff when Haven can actually get awaywithout using it
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>/svg/ is slower as /hsg/ now

it's over isn't it?
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Can I get a concede please?
31220
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>>181966469
You only get to release so many bad expansions before people walk away. The 46 apology packs don't matter when you can't use any of the cards in them.
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>>181966469
No. /svg/ has never 404'd before the bump limit like /hsg/ has
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>>181966496
Thanks runetits
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>>181966136
>tfw no one answers the call
Just concede then please? I just need to win a private match, but I just wanted to have fun.
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>>181965668
I can't afford big investments now but I'll keep it in mind, thanks
>>181966351
I'm missing all the good haven cards senpai :(
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Thank ya mama forte
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New idea for forest to save it:
Now they can also choose between echance abilities.So even if you have the PP you can choose to use the lesser ability for less PP.
alternatively give them 1 more space on the board
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Isn't White Wolf Neutral Forest good now?
Like one of the few decks that can compete?
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>>181966631
We'll probably get there soon if they don't fix this game by the end of the month.
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>>181967416
I don't know about the wolf version, but B&B builds have been tuned to the point where they seem playable now.
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>>181966136
>another player
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>>181967416
Good as in above 40% winrate.
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>Finally get both emblems and sleeves for ranked playing a combination of Jeb!, Forest, and Seraph.
>Decide to do Take 2 and use the tickets from the anniversary event.
>Haven with an Elana deck on the perfect curve and an absolutely disgusting hand.
>Blood 4 times in a row. Every one of them has spawn. Two of them tutor it with Bapho.

See you next month /svg/
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>>181967416
>White Wolf
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>memeing with PtP Dark Alice

Ho man this is fun
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>>181967649
there won't be an /svg/ in a month
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Wp Forte, jesus christ that was a wiping.
I fucking hate sybil.
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>>181967767
Are you running the 13 shadows amulet meme?
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Why is cloud chorus 3PP?fuck
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>>181967767
I wanted to try this if I pulled any Dark Alices, but since I didn't I never bothered to make a list, how is yours working? I assume the combo is using Alice to banish Midnight Haunts to get PtP by 8/9 consistently? If it can even begin to handle neutral spawn I might just craft it
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Does this looks like a 5-0 deck? Hot damn. It was my first one, too.
>Aegis
Showed up exactly once and did jack shit, never used Grial either. Damus was the real MVP, him + Snake Priestess is fucking great, how come he doesn't see play in constructed?
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>>181967964
>complaining about a T3 deck
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>>181967964
I just got lucky you didn't draw mutagenic. I was just happy to pull off the jabbermeme
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>>181968128
nothing too much good job chemo sister
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Wanna choose for me? Will pick whatever the first answer tell me to.
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>>181968128
he dies to every 2-drop
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>>181968228
forest
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>>181968228
shadow
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>>181968128
Because he has 2 defence and dies immediately. I tried him when he came out and got him to work exactly once in conjunction with Thicc Maiden and wards.
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>>181957119
No, as soon as KMR took over the game was doomed. The magicfags who were running it beforehand probably don't even have any say now.
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Could I get a concede?
51698
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>>181968317
Done. Next.
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I haven't played this game in a while have they nerfed the one called yurius yet?
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>>181968453
see
>>181954167
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>>181968445
Thanks Forte
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>>181968453
easy right
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fuck, i love the fucking QUEEN

i played all of this on just turn 10
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>>181968636
>no windmills
Step it up my friend
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>>181968636
Turn 9 and 2 evo points left
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>>181968801
This is the power of bandwagoning spawn players.
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fair and balanced
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>>181968636
*casts revelation and plays scarlet on the genesis*
Nothing personal kid
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>>181968801
Probably a Neutral Blood shitter fishing for 16 face.
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>>181968898
Yeah Khawy is bullshit.
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>mfw looking through old forest cards
holy shit some of them are absolutely useless,buffs when?
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>>181969076
you get to be broken next expansion with sword again.
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>>181967982
>>181968097
Yeah using Midnight Haunt plus some other more consistent generation.

fmdq is the code. I'm probably going to find a way to tech in Necroassassin without ruining the relative consistency of the deck. Probably only 2 Dark Alice, but I worry about not pulling her as well.
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>>181968998
He was the scapegoat in case Nep ever got off the ground, luckily it didn't
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>>181969129
But i don't want forest to be broken i want fun combo decks with old cards.
fuck KMR
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Why don't Cygames make more crystals only sleeves? Seems like it's a good way to print money while just reusing existing assets
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>>181969076
Forest has probably had the worst in-class balance since Standard. Their good cards and their bad cards are so far apart.
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>>181967416
I don't know how well it compares to Roach or plain Neutral Forest but all of them are playable.
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>>181969076
They got maybe 2 playable in-class cards from the last 3 expansions. It's really sad, but also funny when you see the upcoming pre-built list they had to resort to since there was literally nothing playable.
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>>181922218
post dick, i need an example of this
is this some sort of satan/queen rune deck?
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>get 3 emeralda and 1 spawn from packs
>have 3 animated bahpomet
Sorry guys but I'm going to at least craft 1 more spawn and try it out
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>>181969476
You work with what you pull sometimes. I'll be here enjoying my 7 Alice's Adventure.
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>>181969476
>3 animated meme mask
>3 animated bapho
>3 animated imps
come on anon
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STOP BRINGING BLOOD AND NEUTRAL CANCER TO UNRANKED, I JUST WANT TO GET MY DAILIES DONE
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>>181968545
Ok, let's go then
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>>181969724
So do they, and they're doing it faster and more efficient than you are.
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>>181969594
I'm genuinely surprised I wasn't the only one.
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>>181968779
>ramped 4 times and played tilting
>still alive
>had all combo cards in hand exactly at 10pp
Only good if your opponent bricks as hard as yours
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>>181969910
>ranked
>game ends on turn 6-8
>unranked
>game ends on turn 6-8
>faster
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>>181970092
I also went first or I would've lost aswell
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>>181969724
Someone Cygames will realize making dailies win only is actually what's killing this game and making it a frustrating chore. Unranked would be infinitely better if people could relax and not care about the outcome.
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>>181969269
>>181969293
Like look at fucking Mana Elk.Absolutely fucking shit card from the start.What was even the point?
Or the fucking Treant,Tam Lin,etc.
fuck
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>>181970091
I see we got the same pack RNG, I also pulled 5 Lethal Blades plus an animated one.
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>>181970091
>Animated Maisy and Ragewyrm
Count your blessings nigga
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>>181968779
The disco way for turbo draws is the way to go.
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>playing elana in WLD
What's wrong with people?
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>>181970395
post dick, i have 30k vials sitting there and i wanna have fun
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>>181970347
Eh, most old Standard card are shit and should just be vialed at this point. I don't even open tickets anymore because I don't want leggo and gold pulls wasted on complete garbage.
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>spawn is so good, people are unironically picking blood in arena
svg told me cthulhu was going to be a meme like sneks though so what happened?
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>>181970395
>discarding your entire hand twice in the same turn while switching decks in between
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>>181970347
It really feels like CyGames doesn't know what to do with Forest. Holding cards just isn't very good with the game mechanics that encourage active play and evos being such a great tempo tool.

I mean every craft has bad cards, but for most of them it's a matter of "there's a better option" or "this doesn't suit the meta". Like practically every card in Shadow has seen some play at some point, even if it's just for meme lists.

Forest just has a lot of plain shit cards.
>>
79623

concede pls
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These aren't getting nerfed, right?
I can just take the 3000 vials?
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>>181960378
you can't know how many times you live though
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>>181970718
>Legendary getting nerfed
No chance in hell
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>>181970529
It made sense day 0 when everyone was running retarded unga shit.
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>>181970638

nice duel, morde
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>>181970718
there's nothing overpowered about alice and even if there was, they wouldn't nerf her directly
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>>181969765
>drafted fairy dragon
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>>181970825
>there's nothing overpowered about alice
Thank you
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>>181970718
0% chance of Cygames nerfing legends, let alone the poster girl of the set.
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>>181970825
>there's nothing overpowered about alice
Hehehe...
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>>181970825
> there's nothing overpowered about alice
a good joke
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>>181970393
Not complaining about my gold RNG. If I were to complain about anything it'd be about my legendary pulls and getting 11 in 140 packs now. Most of which were memes but I've been trying to make Carabosse work.
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>>181970545
Its just something slapped together so you can fix up most however you want.
You still get eaten alive by turn 6 abyss if they arent sutpid and curve well.
Got lucky that match that he decided to smack him into my pyroxene to make me burn cards.
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>>181971009
>>181971004
>>181970952
the jewing is strong with shitposing
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I did it, Reddit
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>>181970347
Mana Elk is like a 4PP Wind God if the stars align. It could theoretically be good, unlike a lot of other forest cards.
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>>181969228
I don't think most people want their classes to be broken, they just want them to be viable. I was having fun with Spawn the first day or 2 but now as a bloodfag I don't want to touch the class until it's nerfed and everyone fucks off to the next cancer.
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>>181971116
>siegfried
fuck you
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>up against storm ramp dragon
>He's going ahead, not good
>He's about to hit 10pp
>drop pic related
>drop it 3 turns back to back to back
>manage to survive evo forte into genesis into zues into zues
Really liking this card. Also cucks Spawnshitters.
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>>181971207
And how does Mana Elk remain on the board exactly?Because i don't see any way with that hp.
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>>181970395
pretty likely you are done the next turn
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>>181971254
>hating on Sieg.
Where did he cut you down?
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>>181971396
He would only be there to facilitate an extra couple points of damage, and it's not like Wind God or Cynthia ever live more than a turn, either.
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>>181970557
Blood got retarded bronze and silver cards for T2
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Alice should have been a Sword card that only buffs Officers
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>>181971617
I had to check what board I was on as there's a namefag who goes by that on another board I visit.
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>>181972168
hmmmmm i wonder whos behind this post
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>>181972168
alice pleases officers for free!
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>>181971340
once neutral engine, BKB, tove and baphomet gets nerfed, this card will become the true cancer
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>>181972168
cygames forgot your class exists, sorry
>>
jabberwock is so fucking fun holy shit
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>>181972428
why would they nerf tove and bkb on top of nerfing neutral engine and baphomet, i hope they have some sense to avoid overnerfs
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>>181972438
They got forest and sword mixed up. Look at what we got because of you swordbros.
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>>181972679
Yeah, at least nerf Scarlet instead so she can't hit face.
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>>181972679
not him but the neutral engine would be >>>>>>>>>>>>fine if everything didnt get so tanky, like why the fuck does everyone and everything gets +x/+x instead of +x/0? literally retarded
>just 7pp eggplosion lmao
>everyone survives at 1 or 2 hp
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>>181972748
>tfw no council into sylvan commander
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Why does spawn have 7hp instead 6hp?
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>>181972894
discord
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>>181973040
So it can survive the t6 Humpty followed by t7 Eggsplosion
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>>181971340
>havencuck plays that shit along with fuckton of heals themises tribunals banishes and whatever boring bullshit his autistic mind decided to put into the deck
>still loses but wastes 15 minutes of my time, and his for what its worth (nothing)
I just hope all aegisniggers just die in accident simultaneously and stop wasting people's time with their inadequate """""""control""""""" bullshit
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>>181972763
Scarlet isn't going to get nerfed.
They like nerfing things that fuel the engine (baphomet) or are in literally every deck (shadow reaper for example).
I expect tove and baphomet nerfs. Actress Feria and Goblin Leader are probably going to get nerfed too.
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>>181973206
and revelation when evolved
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When baphomet gets nerfed in place of spawn, he'll literally be a scape-goat
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>>181973461
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>>181972397
BUBBLE BATH WITH VAMPY!
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>>181973610
Kill yourself, bloodnigger.
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You have 10 seconds to name a card with worse art.
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>>181973461
fuck you
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>>181973803
hector
>>
Can someone give me a Storm Dragon list. I just need it for my dailies.
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>>181973254
>I need to end this game quick because I need to spend my time doing more useful things so I'll just ignore everything and go face without a thought
Fucking retard killing the game while commuting in train or some stupid shit like that.

Why is everyone so afraid to make an online card game in which matches take a lot of time? Long matches with tons of room for errors are the most fun by fucking far unless you are literally animal level intelligence.
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>>181973610
be careful, she bites!
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>>181969765
Anon,are you okay?Surely you won at least one match,right?
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>>181973803
grandmother used to be more scary than hairy... or more hairy than scary, i don't recall
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>>181973875
Ramp + everything that says Storm
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>tfw Soul Collector single-handedly carries you to your first 5-0 in Take Two

I didn't expect him to be so good. Good thing they placed him with other good shit so I got to pick him.
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POSTING EPIC OC
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>>181974307
I don't fucking care about your ramp. Just give me a Storm list now.
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>>181973610
Bloodbath with Vampy
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>>181974308
>him
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>>181974169
First match victory.
Second match lost because lolkhawy + bahamut
Currently eating chicken and watching animu. Will play more soon
/Blogpost end
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>>181974308
>him
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>>181974364
Exact same as in ToG
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>>181974332
>cthulhu
top kek
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>>181974450
>>181974471
how can you be sure what gender they identify with
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>>181974471
>>181974450
Turns out I'm fucking blind.
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>>181972438
It's okay, everyone else did too
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>>181974034
>literally animal level intelligence

MFW I read anime level intelligence.
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>>181974332
>didn't get any replies last time
>p-please like it!
go away reddit
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>>181973286
Feria needs to be 3 drop 3/3 evolved.

Tove becomes 3/2. Playing it and a neutral doesn't give it rush anymore. Possibly make Rush a turn 3 enhance (but still can't attack without a neutral, making it a turn 4 rush at earliest, and you can't play it and a goblin turn 3 to remove the attack restriction by playing it T3)

Goblin Leader stays as is, except he only spawn a goblin at the end of the turn if one isn't in play.

Baphomet enhance is still there, but it's T6 and pulls 4+ attack instead of 5+

This one won't happen but
Spawn: Exactly the same except the ambush effect also hits your leader if vengeance is active. If you are at 8 HP because you were on the ropes all match, you don't get to just evolve a Spawn and win.
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>>181974092
My daughterwives
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>>181974769
>>>/jp/
>>
>cygames printed a 2PP 1/4 with an effect
>it doesn't even get played

how did this happen
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>>181974667
same thing, really
>>
what's with all these pure neutral bloodfags today tutoring cat and cara?
>>
>start to queue up
>immediately get a sinking feeling in my stomach
>realize that the chance of going up against spawn blood is making me not want to play the game
Even with a heavily tech'd deck for dealing with spawn, I still lose.
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>>181974481
Goddamn you're lazy. Can't even post the list.
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>>181974364
But you need the ramp mang, otherwise you can't play the big stormers.
That and Forte, Genesis Dragon, Dragoon Scyther, maybe Aina given the amount of little shits other classes play
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>>181974754
dude they dont want to kill blood i hope by gutting their only neutral interaction card on top of nerfing baphomet and neutral engine

just out of curiosity, check what kind of neutral interaction cards sword has
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>>181975082
just hippogryph bro
>>
Thoughts on the decks posted on reddit?

The Chesire Neutral and Neutral Elf is fucking cancer holy shit

I've been getting higher winrates than Abyss with this
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>>181974754
>Feria needs to be 3 drop 3/3 evolved
nah, she's honestly fine. She only buffs the board after all. not like Alice the broken queen.
>Tove becomes 3/2. Playing it and a neutral doesn't give it rush anymore. Possibly make Rush a turn 3 enhance (but still can't attack without a neutral, making it a turn 4 rush at earliest, and you can't play it and a goblin turn 3 to remove the attack restriction by playing it T3)
3/2 is fine, rush is fine too, but he locks every single turn unless you play a neutral. I don't understand why Rapunzel locks herself every turn and tove goes scott free. Did they ever look at it? It's so fucking obvious that it's retarded.
>Goblin Leader stays as is, except he only spawn a goblin at the end of the turn if one isn't in play.
not like he gets to spawn more than one goblin anyways.
Just make him like Unica, activates at the biginning of the turn. His stats are fucking subpar after all.
>Baphomet enhance is still there, but it's T6 and pulls 4+ attack instead of 5+
keep it at five but the idea of 4pp is on point
>Spawn
just delete the last words and he's balanced. Or make it so he requires vengance to enter in ambush.
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>>181975028
Maybe you should just learn how to go first more often?
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>>181975140
The new pure neutral blood deck is still fucking retardedly strong and it doesn't even run Spawn.
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>>181974928
>Play a turn 2 1/4 without Ward
>The opponent's shitgoblins just flatout ignore it

I wonder why such cards aren't used.
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>>181974976
it's a fair deck unlike spawn
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>>181974928
Can't kill the goblin menace or stop it from hitting your face
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>bloodcraft card
>2pp 2/1
>fanfare: draw a specific card that your deck and game plan absolutely depend on
>if you pay 3pp more, reduce the cost of that drawn card by 3pp
a perfect 1 to 1 trade in value and no need for any other card to get synergy from for it to work

>forestcraft card
>2pp 2/1
>fanfare: do literally fucking nothing
>if you pay AT LEAST 2pp more AND have multiple other cards that have good synergy with it, you may draw a completely random card that may very well be useless to you at this point in the game
an absolutely terrible trade off. requires you to first pay play points to generate synergy and then use all of those cards to get a single draw for 2pp or even more
has poor 2/1 stats if played on curve with no upside
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>>181974034
Fuck you havennigger. I'm all up for long games if these games are not due to nigger playing removal after removal for 20 turns straight and then dying cause he run out of removal to play.
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Hi, hi, ファティナ nano desu.
I see many peoples whining about Blood being (by far) the most powerful and unfair deck to play against but I am quite enjoying mess around this deck.
Actually, I found the deck more interesting that most of powerful decks that appeared in past meta. Daria, Ramp dragon and Eacthar Shadow are mainly tempo deck that just shit the board out of nowhere to destroy you.
The main difference of Spawn blood actually is named Baphomet. Actually, even if the set up to place Spawn and face you arrive turn 6-7, it take 2 turns where your opponent do (almost) nothing. And these 2 turns are actually the main difference I quite enjoy to mess around to destroy this deck (almost never work ...).
Using this timing and forcing the possible play of my opponent to make him play both Baphomet and Spawn when I want is the most interesting aspect I can look at in a card game (actually think about all your possible play). With all my test, I manage to achieve a better win rate vs Spawn going 2nd (both positive with dshift and Otk roach, around 49% with otk dragon).
I can understand that many peoples are pissed to face again and again the same deck ( even worst with the neutral package everywhere) but this what happen a lot in card game anyways. But I think everyone should try to look at what they like in the game in the first place. Spawn is not more horrible than Daria or Eachtar (even if win rate say so). Each player enjoy to play and face different type of decks (I personally want to burn every tempo player) but Cygame had shown they can push different styles to the top. If you didn't enjoy this meta (this was my case in the last expansion), keep in mind this won't probably be the same in the next expansion.
Anyways, I can only support you to still enjoy the game. I am still looking at new idea and strategy to deceive my opponents and prepare my mischief for ExG grand final.
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>>181974928
because they printed a 2pp 3/3 in the same set
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>>181975243
You have to go back my friend
Or I'll turn you into a snowman!
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>>181975417
svg doesnt work in my work so I have to scum on rebbit
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I pulled a golden city lion

Those decks usually only run x2 lions don't they? For reference, I already have x3 Alice
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>>181975243
cat neutral was the first version of blood neutral on gamewith and played by some youtuber before spawn was even discovered, i personally like some imp lancers in it

neutral elf, if you mean otk it was posted multiple times in this very general
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>>181975493
I told you to go back not to make excuses
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44108
Can I get a concede friendos.
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>>181975248
why should it be weaker than neutral sword/shadow/haven?

nerf of neutral engine already hits it
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>t2 tove
>t3 tove and goblin

just when I thought cancer couldn`t be any worse
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>>181975386
>tfw most forest's cards have been upgraded into better cards and put on other crafts
Spawn was supposed to be ours, but instead we got shitty Anomaly.
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>>181975386
>wtf why did they powercreep a useless card??
idiot treefucker.
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>>181975403
>ESL-kun has gone from hating Yurius to supporting Neutral Blood
What a time to be alive.
I don't fully disagree with this post, but I still hate Blood regardless because I am sick of oppressive tier 1 decks after going through ToG.
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>>181975628
Why does the same Grandmaster show up whenever I ask for a concede on 4chan.
Who are you man add me love me.
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>>181975538
That version doesn't even have Scarlets or Hectors though, it seems too meme

Have you seen the Midrange Shadow deck on the post? I've went from 3k to 8k 60 wins 11 loss
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>>181975890
He's trying to atone for his sins.
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>>181975864
it's a pasta from reddit
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>>181975814
It used to be played in old school PtP.
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>>181975243
I don't think Spawn's abilities should be tied to vengeance just because control blood needs a wincon. Hell even its last words are fine. The problem is mostly from its ability to come from WAY behind with a win. A turn 5 do nothing turn 6 do nothing followed by a damn near guaranteed lethal should not be possible. That's what makes neutral blood so damn unfun. Even if you perfectly handled the early aggro game, it's super easy to get hit with an OTK after two completely dead turns and that's far more unfair.
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>>181975957
Well tell him to fuck off 'cause I get no gold from him I fought him like five times in two days.
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>>181976054
imo even without tutoring 8 pp is probably too cheap
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>>181975403
Hello nano desu! ^_^
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>>181975903
DONT
KEEP LUNA AWAY FROM THE METALIST
I don't want goyims running Eachhhtarrrrs again
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What do the animated sleeves look like?
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>>181976174
You need a full match without conceding for that 100 gold achievement. As for 30 gold dailies, concede works fine regardless of who it is.
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>>181976220
Spawn only performs well in the neutral kit with Baphomet. 8pp is fine, he might not even be top 3 wincons at that cost.
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>>181976174
when you are doing your 20 private games you are supposed to say your ign and to specify clearly you want a full game

also some people post a list of names of those who helped them so they don't play with them again
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>>181976174
Post private. I'll go kick you in the nuts for insulting mama
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>>181975403
>Fatina
LITERALLY WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU
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>>181976621
Nah, I'm not Mama Forte, just another karma whore atoning for spamming ladder with Spawn Blood. And I'm not GM, just halfway there.
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When are they going to start giving packs from the newest expansion in take two?
Holy fucking shit, I want to play take two, but it's a complete waste of gold right now.
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>>181976247
Propagate with Lily
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>>181975998
and then what happened? It became irrelevant and useless.
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>>181976768
>I want to play take two
Nigga why. It's a complete shitfest
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>>181976768
>complete waste of gold right now.
>wasting gold on t2
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>>181976461
No you don't.
I have 11 matches done already, all by concede and I'm still getting the gold.
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>>181976768
Never? It's literally only happened once and it was back in DE.
Just give up and forget about that shitty mode.
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>>181975243
Grand Master 16k here
I'll give you a rundown

>Baga (20k GM) swaps to super aggro version of Chesire Cat
>17 motherfucking cards under 2 mana
>Kills every Abyss/Aegis
>Everyone follows his deck
>Some jap streamer starts playing it
>Get popular on Twitter
>Everyone Jap is using that deck despite being SHIT

It's running 3 copies of Goblin Mountainguard? or that shitty card nobody uses, it's better just going all out
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>>181976875
>all but two crafts are viable and they each have pools that are wildly different from one another.
>versus spawn mirror every fucking game
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>>181976978
So that's why I'm facing these retards using cat.
Anyways, thanks for the free wins stupid nips.
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>>181976759
I wish I knew what is going on.
I'm clearly pretty damn off when it comes to the Shadowverse community but I like it so far.
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Does Will of the Forest start to damage another random enemy follower if it kills one?
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>the meta is hyper aggro, aggro and """midrange"""
>but I have GM already so I can just play discard dragon in unranked and not give a fuck
Honestly enjoying the game again, since I've gotten that rank

Dragonslayer price is amazing for murdering all alice momentum
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>>181976978
i recall when i posted my aggro neutral blood deck some days ago /svg/ said it lacked "identity" because it had neither spawn nor carabosse

also
>17 motherfucking cards under 2 mana
certainly you mean 2 and under because it can't run 17 1pp cards and be viable can it?
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>>181977262
Yes.
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>all the spawns have moved to ranked for FREE WINS
>unranked is daily friendly again
FINALLY
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>>181977262
yes, otherwise it would have been completely useless instead of being mostly useless and lord KMR-sama would never print useless golds or legos for us elves
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>>181977262
Yes.
The only time it will stop is if it hits Aegis.
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>>181977318
yeah I mean 2 and under

you need the other 1 drop (the merman shit) because in mirror matchups a 1 drop is the only thing that wins you games
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playing with spawn for the first time.
the deck is not that strong is nothing like Daria or Shadow meta
>inb4 self reported data
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>>181977557
>The only time it will stop is if it hits Aegis.
what?
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>tfw you get meme'd on
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>>181977728
I don't know if it's intended or just a bug, but it has happened to me whenever I tried to kill something with WotF while Aegis was on board.
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>>181977703
Everyone is already trying to counter it, that's why people are playing that cat deck now instead.

It's proof that the issue is with neutrals bloods new bronze/silvers more than anything else. Spawn is still bullshit obviously but more cards than that need to be hit to bring blood in line.
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>>181976978
also i am pretty glad that japs begin to distinguish between aggro-ish neutral blood and spawn neutral blood, maybe we will even get different stats data for those on shadowlog

>>181977557
what
i.e. if there are aegis and, say, rabbit healer and you use wotf and it hits aegis it stops and won't hit again at all instead of proceeding to randomly disperse some hits to aegis (those do nothing) and some to rabbit healer? it's a pretty weird interaction
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>>181977916
>people try to counter a bs card
>"it's a proof that the problem is with the cards they use to counter the bs card"

lol
that cat deck is only a novelty too, it's most likely has a much worse winrate than spawn
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I swear my dailies are bugged over something. I got the same exact dailies I got yesterday and when I rerolled my win 1 dragon match it gave me the same exact win 1 dragon match not fucking once but twice. I didn't even think that was possible.
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>>181977939
>i.e. if there are aegis and, say, rabbit healer and you use wotf and it hits aegis it stops and won't hit again at all instead of proceeding to randomly disperse some hits to aegis (those do nothing) and some to rabbit healer? it's a pretty weird interaction
Yep. Say you have a 2/4 follower and aegis. If I WotF with 9 cards in hand and it hits the 2/4 3 times but switches to Aegis, it will stop dealing damage and cancel the spell.
It should also happen to Fire Chain too if anyone is interested in testing.
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What's the cheapest deck right now? Is the captacha taking 5 minutes for anyone else?
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>>181978286
Neutral Blood only needs 3 Alice.
Enable legacy captcha in the settings.
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>>181978578
Is there any cheaper stuff? Also thanks for the captcha tip, it's so much better
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>>181978286
You can probably make a budget spawn with just 2 Spawn
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>>181977125
It's actually really good for ranking since it's fastest deck in the game (Kinda) and it counters every neutral deck.
It probably does shit against any deck with control, but anything with Neutral it outpaces due to having every card in low cost range

Also why the fuck arent people playing more Shadow? Shadow is literally tier 1 material in terms of winrate (The Midrange Shadow posted on reddit or that Japanese GM account has blantant 72% winrate and it literally has no new cards (2 new cards in deck lmao)
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>people stop playing abyss ad instead carabosse and cat
>win with all kinds of decks again
Based nips gimping their decks again because some random nerd told them it's better
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>>181978785
I thought two spawn is what most people ran anyway.
Three seems like overkill.
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>>181978908
post it here lad
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>>181978928
Carabosse is shit
>6pp magic missile
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>Khawy eats both of my spawns because I misplay like a retard leaving the opponent at 15
>Still win
I love this game.
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>>181978997
he likely meant 2 spawns and no alice - either a budget neutral or midrange blood
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>>181978997
Wallet players gotta wallet
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>>181978997
He means no Alices.
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>>181978928
I'm actually just gimping my deck because I want to seed this fairy.

HERE'S a fucking idea though.
>Instead of deal 1 damage and draw 1. Carabosse stops pp growth for both players.
Haven hags and spawn shitters both blown the fuck out.
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>>181978286
Storm haven
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>>181978997
>>181979193
>>181979243
Yeah, I mean just like 2 spawns as the only required legendaries in the deck.
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>>181978928
people dislike to be forced to one deck and try stuff

non spawn neutral blood isn't much worse than neutral sword after all, of course it is viable, why shouldn't it be
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Hi guys, I'm a newshitter. Should I reroll ? I don't really what to do desu, there's so many cards (and the artworks are beautiful my god)
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>>181979259
>let's buff blood out the fucking ass
kill yourself.
>haha I already am lol!!
kill yourself.
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>>181979259
>go first
>drop her
>opponent is forever 1pp behind you
Too strong. Watch dragon get that effect but on a 10pp card
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>>181979441
Mean I don't know*
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>>181979441
definitely reroll only 1 or 2 of those is worth keeping
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>>181979441
>2 anomemes
yes
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>>181979441
>2 anomalies
great pull, I'd keep it
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>>181979259
Do you work at Riot Games?
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>>181979468
>I'm incapable of understanding that crafts have more than one deck and that Caboose is almost entirely incompatible with spawn.
Discord fag pls go.
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>>181979441
yES WHAT CRAFT YOU WOULD LIKE TO PLAY?
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>>181979259
too strong for aggro decks imo

anyway there is 0 chance they change a leggo

>>181979441
reroll unless you want to play aegis haven and willing to dust leggos
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>>181979684
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>181979065
It's funny because there's literlly no new cards except 1 lol

>>181978928
here's why it works out
70% of the enemies are Abyss
which means if you are also playing Abyss, you only have 60% winrate against 30% of the remaining decks, and 50/50 against Abyss.
Which is still slightly above average winrate, but it takes a fucking while

But if you play Chesire, you have 77% winrate against the 70% of the playerbase.
Maybe you are bad against Elf/Witch, but they don't even make up 10% of the playerbase atm
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>>181979259
>get to 6
>opponent is forever locked at 5 pp
Yea man, just remove the ability to play half the cards in the game.
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>>181979682
>no mention or even hinting of Spawn anywhere
>IT ISN'T SPAWN STUPID DISCORD
classic bloodfag.
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>>181978908
post deck
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Forte needs to get laid
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>>181979854
this deck is fucking good
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>>181978928
>carabosse and cat
What deck is this? >>181977318 this one?
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>>181979854
thanks m8
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>>181979594
>>181979601
>>181979645
>>181979745

I see, thanks. I noticed they using characters from GranBlue Fantasy, are they special cards or ?
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>>181980032
>>181979958
>>181979971
>>181979854
wait fuck, wrong image
this is the necro deck

>>181979971
This deck is ok, but Bloodfags found out how to counter Rhino, so it's not very viable for ranked
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>Turn 2 tove
>Turn 3 gobu
>Turn 4 BKB
>Turn 5 Bapho Evo
>Turn 6 Spawn
>Turn 7 Razory Claw

HAHAHA SO FAIR SO BALANCED SUCH GOOD GAME DESIGN

I remember a time when Shadowverse rewarded skillful play and wasn't just dropping overstatted quality cards on curve into broken game ending legendaries. I remember a time when Shadowverse actually took more skill than Hearthstone instead of pandering to casuals and japanese salarymen. I remember a time when the game was ever anything more than a two deck meta. But I've realized those times are long gone.

For those of you still playing for whatever reason, I wish you happiness from the bottom of my heart. I'll miss you fuckers even if you're nothing but shadowniggers and hags. /rant
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>>181979658
>implying riot would ever make something that insane
That's more of a Valve thing. Riot nerfs anything with utility, Valve takes what's weak and makes it retarded, unless there's something that's just off the wall imbalanced.
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>>181979854
I know that already anon
That's how I got to GM with neutral rune after dropping abyss myself and win 50% of my games on going first alone, because alice and another bunch of games on the fact that my opponent is abyss and I run mutagenic
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>>181978908
Shadow is fucking garbage simply because it has to deal with neutral blood. Once neutral blood gets nerfed I guarantee Midrange Shadow goes back to T1 and all Shadow decks that came with this expansion become a lot more viable. Even memey shit like Siren's Tears or Dark Alice PtP will be somewhat serious contenders
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undeniable proof that Snowman PtP is better than the """viable""" Dirt Meme.
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>>181979961
She only wants a man that's stronger than her to dominate her
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>>181980104
adios crybb
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https://twitter.com/ktktro
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>>181980198
t. spawn
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>>181979942
>muh class tribalism
You have autism.
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>>181980064
They're not special really. There are some that are really good and some that aren't, they're not any more or less rare than other cards in the same tier though
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>>181979961
I'm her husbando so I take care of that
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>>181980104
i fuck u mom
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>>181979854
for some reason i think that the numbers about cheshire wins vs abyss are taken out of your ass
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explain this forestbabs
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>>181978908
Probably because spawn blood still feasts on shadow? Once spawn gets nerfed midshadow will just go back to being T0.

Screencap this.
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>>181980091
Thanks!
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>>181980241
delicious mompits
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>>181980409
>shadow will just go back to being T0.
never?
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>>181980145
Toast deck
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>>181980241
I want to sniff Isabelle's stinky armpits
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whew lad
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>>181980615
I changed it a lot since then
Don't have it anymore
Check archives if you want the list that got GM
Got GM 2 days ago around this time
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>run into elana seraph
FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU
>I HEAL AND REMOVE AND WIN INSTANTLY
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>>181980751
>Elana
>Win instantly
dumb lunapedo
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>>181980826
>elana seraph
>seraph
>SERAPH

Read nigga! REEEEEEEEEEEEAD
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>>181980091
thanks anon, ill try it
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>>181980148
Midrange Shadow is T1 if you look purely at the winrates right now, >>181980091
this deck has 57% winrate, between Aegis and Abyss.

>>181980335
I closed all my shit so I can't find the stats again, but here's the stats for Korean player hitting GM with cat
77% winrate total 61 games 47 wins
92% winrate 1st 63% winrate 2nd
vs vampire 65% winrate (counting mirrors)
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>>181980615
This was his deck.
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>>181980910
>seraph
>win instantly

??? D0?
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https://shadowverse-portal.com/deck/1.7.640Ho.640Hy.640Hy.6JNhI.6JNhI.6JNhI.60COa.60COa.67st2.67st2.67st2.6CsCi.6CsCi.6923i.6923i.60E5y.60E5y.6FSDi.6FSDi.6BjSI.6BjSI.6BjSI.67sO6.67sO6.6BgWy.6BgWy.6BgWy.6JIoo.6JIoo.6JJI2.6JJI2.67uqM.6FX6M.6FX6M.6FZYI.6FZYI.645Pw.645Pw.6FZYS.6FZYS


How would you guys improve this deck im relatively new to the game.
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>>181980910
>seraph
>literally T8 do nothing
>win instantly
maybe u just bad
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>>181980409
It's sad. So much people want yet another 3 months of shadowshit, and will probably get it.
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>>181981007
>>181980698
Thanks
Also how do we know you didnt just play the last game as Rune?
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>>181980241
>body literally made for pregnancy
>one single doujin

shadowbbs?
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>>181981115
i mean its just neutralcancer with mutagenic
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>>181980962
>>181980439
you have to have a lot of experience with that deck or it bricks a shitton
some basic stuff (vs Blood)
1. Don't keep corpse unless Soul Conver/Demon Eater
2. Zombie Party is always keep, if Zombie Party doesn't come out, cycle everything
3. Save Zombie Party turn 2 unless enemy played Tove (You can put a 2 mana minion and go even on board, then remove his 3 mana minion with Zombie)
4. Try to get a huge swing on turn 3/4/5 through evol/corpse/necroassasin, early game is everything

there's a lot of tips but they are the only ones on top of my head
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>>181981056
>>181981093
>lets make a deck with lots of sustain potential called Elana
>now lets take a card that wins the game for free that only countered by 3-4 cards
>now lets put them TOGETHER against someone who isn't on the neutral blood train
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>>181981137
jap nerds don't like those who already were tapped
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>>181981115
if you're not retarded you should be able to figure out that falise is a stupidly strong card
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>>181981115
>how do we know
I have undeniable proof in the fact that I literally never lied on an anonymous imageboard ever

Up to you if you wanna believe it, but I did in fact grind 7k to 10k with that shitty deck

I did 0 to 1k with jeb rune 1k to 7k with abyss and the last 3k with neutral rune
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>>181981345
Am I back to DE?
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>>181981090
What is this mess supposed to be?

Storm-elana-aegis haven?
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>>181981345
yea but it doesn't win instantly like you claimed idiot, keep moving those goalposts
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>>181980387
now you can bounce your fairies until they cum, then concede
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>>181980690
through the looking glass
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>ranked now has a permanent yurius effect for both players
>yurius himself is banned
Is the game saved?
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>>181981310
>if Zombie Party doesn't come out, cycle everything
Wow, I never thought of the card being this important. Would it make sense to run undying resent or some other cheap removal as well? Thanks for the tips!
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>>181981548
needless to say that faggot had tove then alice
in C0
what a joke
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>run into a sirens tears shadow
>turn 1 skip
>turn 2 tears
>turn 3 attendant
>turn 4 urd into lich evo into 9/9 urd

Well that was interesting.
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>>181981663
>lets punish players for playing anything
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>>181981090
You can remove tenko, ancient lion & jean, add 1 blackened & sacred plea. If you want to go for storm-aegis hybrid add more pinion, garuda & march. Either pick cudgel or teena, cudgel if you're on budget.
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>Take 2
>enemy blood goes first
>turn 2 tove
>turn 3 goblin leader
>turn 5 baphometh
>turn 6 spawn

What the actual fuck
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>>181981669
Resent is ok, but not as good and I won't use it DESU (Post-nerf Shadow is actually really low on Shadow, and you need Shadow in this deck)

The main strength of Zombie Party is that you can kill Tove, which stirahgt up wins Vampire games
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>>181981663
I hope you like DShift.
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>>181981663
a cunning idea to buff burn rune
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>>181981705
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>>181953664
You rang?
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>>181981692
don't get mad at sandbaggers. they won't ever get anywhere in life
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>>181977318
GM Bloodfag here
The real real reason you need 5~6 1drop is because you can drop Tove + 1drop at turn 3 going 2nd, which removes enemy's goblin leader (Used to be impossible if you were going 2nd)
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>>181982030
it might be some new player who netdecked a possibly incomplete neutral blood of some kind
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>>181982147
>GM Bloodfag
kys
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>>181970395
I love seeing people play Satan.
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>>181981310
Question, can I somehow substitute cerberus for something else? It's the only thing that I'm lacking and I'm currently out of vials
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>>181981692
The cancer has grown pervasive in this game. I have an account in D0 and climbing the ladder I see nothing but spawn and haven. Even in unranked people still play spawn.

Everything is fucked.
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Even: I do
Odds: I don't
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>goblin leader turn 3
>you can't remove it
>alice turn 4

Is there a way of coming back from this or is it just a concede country
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>>181982441
I wouldn't if I were you.
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>>181981109
Last poll we had showed the majority of this general are shadowniggers, which explains why they always want to be at the top.

Even last expansion when Haven barely had a positive winrate against shadow (after nerfs mind you) they were already calling for the hag to get nerfed again.
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Team time is ridiculous
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>>181982441
You don't need 3 B&B. I'd recommend 2.
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>>181982408
It really can't compare with the amount of shadows it gives (3) and kill potential with 4 burst damage, however if you had to, Wind God maybe? Odile is also a very good choice
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>>181982493
In firstverse, if you don't have a perfect curve to answer the neutral engine just concede. The game is a coinflip now.
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>>181982658
No you need 3. This shit never comes when you need the most.

But the problem is neutral forest itself not being strong enough to make all this vials worth and the fact B&B will probably be obsolete next expansion.
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>spawn it tier 0
>literally every other blood deck is in the dumpster
Bats is dead, KYS is dead, aggro is all but dead. Once spawn is nerfed blood winrate is going to plummet.
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>>181983158
>KYS dead
quite literally I miss that fucking deck already
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>>181983158
Regular neutral blood is actually pretty fucking strong. Without the spawn masturbation.
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>>181983158
neutral blood is still the best neutral deck
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>>181982414
i was there back in rob and it was full of then cheap t1 aggro blood and a bit later lots and lots of daria rune with some fancy people playing shadow (i have just looked in my shadowverse folder and found an old webm which i made when i met double necroassassin lurching combo for the first time and it fascinated me)

aggro blood i played used to be cancer
eh, i wish it was viable again, it was so much fun

>>181982147
yes, i have heard it from another anon earlier too, thanks, i am considering what i am omitting for 3x merman. most likely 1 bodyguard, 1 angel of the word and 1 phantom cat
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>play csword
>people actually pass the turn to let me kill them
It's a nice change of pace from everyone conceding.
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>>181983410
>>181983442
Blood is stuck running alice and the neutral engine
Literally every other blood card is useless now
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>>181983442
i strongly doubt it
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Please concede. 71119
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>>181983592
You mean like sword and forest?
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>>181983502
Yeah, budget decks used to mean something. Nowadays even the cheapest budget deck generally runs at least 3 legos, which makes it difficult to keep up between expansions if you don't get lucky.

>mfw did 50 packs and only 2 legendaries
>mfw this directly translated me to barely playing anymore
F/GO is taking too much of my time.
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>>181983592
most crafts got cucked this expansion and are forced to run neutral engine if they want to do shit. the most clear example is sword
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>>181977318
I'd drop 1x Grimnir 1x Imp Lancer for 2x Merman, seems the best

You rarely get 10 mana games as this deck
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>playing cblood storm without spawn because poor as fuck
>t5 baph to get my queen out on t6
>they concede every other game because they think I run spawn
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>>181983634
grr, forgot the pic
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>>181983592
Eh, BkB, Scarlett, Tove, and Emeralda are still broken.

>yfw Cygames pushes decks harder than Brode ever could hope to
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>>181983738
CSword is decent right now and only uses Grimnir.
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>>181983694
Thanks Erika.
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Is it just me or is orge hunter really good?
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So I honestly don't think that Forest is the worst class of the expansion anymore. OTK Forest with Into the Looking Glass is a very consistent and fairly strong deck. The worst class of the format is currently Dragon. Prove me wrong.
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>>181983869
the last time i saw a csword deck it was laughably bad and it got outpaced hard by neutrals
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>>181984007
But i don fine with grinder dragon
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>>181980690
>using cool dragon as your avatar
>they're using a cute girl as their avatar
what if your opponent was the female version of you and that quick match was the only interaction you'll ever have with your true other half and you never meet in person, but you know she's out there somewhere
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>>181984007
you are right, dragon is the worst craft right now
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>>181979259
What if she simply dealt 2 damage per turn and drew 2 cards per turn?
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>>181983781
everybody is sick of that fucking abyss anon
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>>181984350
>Catalog
i think you're making a lot of shit up m8
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>>181984416
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buff girls
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>>181984350
it reminds me modal reality stuff and also some gender-bender doujinshi
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>>181983781
>opponent plays t5 baph
>i ready my mutabolts
>its just carabosse
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>>181984687
what deck are you using?
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How do you beat Cthulhu as havencraft?
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>>181984874
just themis bro
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>>181983992
the deal 3 damage on fanfare and 3 on evolve? hes bretty gud but it became too slow for the current exp
he was a nice pick in t2
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>>181984874
Be faster than them with turn 4 Lion or somehow stall and soften all their big dick damage with Naoise and Iron Maiden then use Seraph or Aegis.
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>>181984687
>hiding rank
Everytime
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>>181985114
that's ogre, ogre hunter is this

and also old man and old woman (i wonder if momo is their [grand]daughter)
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>cinderella on board ready to attack
>hasn't attack yet
>plays albert
>mou ikenai to
>concede
great game shadowbab
>>181984874
you can atleast delay it's attack or soften the damage by using the iron maiden or Naoise red branch night + tribunal. most importantly pack heals in your deck
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Regular storm Haven really destroys blood
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>>181985114
No I mean the 3pp 2/2 that has clash and bane if the enemy has 5 attack
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>>181985426
yeah just like how Dirt Rune is the sleeper tier one that prefers going second.
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>>181984841
>>181985248
I don't play much, just do dailies every day plus I lost about 1400 score playing Haven the other day.
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>just play against a hag with hare if illusions and altered fate
What the fuck was that? PtP haven? This was in ranked too.
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>>181983992
It's good in arena. In constructed there's better stuff to use although it would've been really helpful last expansion against Dragon.
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>>181985426
tfw storm haven mandatory needs 3x snowwhite nowadays
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>>181984984
>>181985143
>>181985389
Thanks
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>>181985337
That actually seems pretty likely. Momo being a gender reverse stand-in for Momotarou who got picked up by an old man and old woman.
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It's me again, thoughts ?
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>>181985862
her flavor says she wants to be a great ogre hunter like papa and mama
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>>181984097
He might have just bricked or wasn't running a lot of the early game removals or Tsukomes. This card right here is completely broken since you can save most of your evo points by playing cards with rush or ward.
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>>181985868
Alice/10
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>>181985765
It works without but Id say 3 snow white over hounsd gives you like 3-4% more win rate
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>>181985868
>only 3 usable ones
>less than 7 legends overall

Sorry my man, try again
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>>181985426
Im struggling to find a nice, cohesive build for the deck. What have you found success with?
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>>181985868
It's not terrible. Keep this one to see if you get something better.
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>>181986026
>>181986175

Ok, I'll be back
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>>181985862
>>181985963
DEEPEST LORE
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>>181985682
PtP Haven is an oldschool meme
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>>181985579
How important is Saha+Isra for your games? I have sahaquiel but no israfil or lucifer.
And what so crucial to banish to run Odin?

t.low rank
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>>181985868
keep this one but try againg
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>>181986362
There's also a voice line on Old Man and Old Woman that mentions Momo, I'm assuming it's an interaction line if Momo is on the opponent's board when you play it
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How come Cygames never buff cards? Who in the right mind would still run shit like Fafnir in there deck?
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>try neutral engine
>just continue to get fucking nothing early game and draw goblins turn 8-9-10
>enemy gets 1pp-2pp-goblin leader-alice every other game
Yes, how do I download the good draws function.
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>>181986983
buy 7500 crystals
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>>181986832
Because it's not fair for people who vialed their cards.
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>>181986587
I'm still tuning it. I'll probably cut Saha to 2 because she works against TW sometimes. Occasionally comes in clutch vs big boards and helps drop opponent to the magic number (18) for the big 18 damage swing with Arriet and Dread Queen. Israfill for sure is staying though, she can otk from 20 with Arriet without evolve.

Odin is helpful vs Roland, B&B and the occasional Seraph. His banish outright won me some games before.
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>>181987196
Fuck em
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>>181986072
I use this
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>>181987196
so buff some silvers, no big loss there
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>>181987196
>people would rather cards remain unused forever instead of getting buffed after they vialed them

Are salarymen really that retarded?
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>>181984837
>playing t2
>some lucker dog drafted 2 of those and a shitton of removal
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>>181986832
it's more profitable to print a new card instead
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>>181986832
Because they want people to pay for new packs.
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>try to netdeck
>lose
>play homebrew memes
>win
I don't understand it.
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>>181987356
>jeanne and cudgel in the neutral era

yeah nah
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>>181987548
>They start buffing old cards but rerelease them in new packs instead of printing new cards
>Content rate is halved, playerbase argues forever on whether or not it was a good idea
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>won with Dshift against neutral blood
W E B A C K B O I S
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>>181987714
As long as players keep paying cygames won't give a damn.
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Currently trying out this Carabosse deck: http://shadowverse-matome.com/otakun-carabosse-vampire-1210

Balanced boy Yurius is still capable of doing work, he doesn't forgive a turn 5 Baphomet tempo loss.
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>>181987196
That's what you get for treating your cards like shit.
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>opponent leaves the turn 1 drop on the field for 6 turns
>he alone does 12 face damage
Go little skull beast
You a champion
You the real MVP
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Amazing how they always implement the constructed win-conditions in T2.
Last expansion is was Aegis, Eachtar and Ourobros.
At least it's only spawn now, I don't know why they make those cards so common. It just shits over any grindy game ended by: btw, I got this card, it cost 7+ mana and says O wins the game. AAA
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>>181988254
>2 vampire queens

Really?
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>>181988254
>Went second
Okay, I may be convinced to give this a try.
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>>181988568
Kill yourself shadownigger
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>>181988621
She's the best anti-spawn card that Blood has, when you think about it.
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>>181987731
Kill yourself, subhuman.
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>>181988254
>1 Rapunzel

Is she even any useful in this deck? I tried her out before and most of the time she's kinda shit. Having to attack each turn to get anything out of her sucks when Tove can attack the same turn along with having 3 ATK.
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>>181988254
I'm not familiar with Shadowverse-Matome. How do they operate?
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why does scarlet sabreur have bane?
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>never played rune outside of a few dailies that I couldn't replace
>unpacked everything needed to try anons neutral rune
>why the fuck not
>first 7 games
I have seen the light. Replaced snow with oz, she's good sometimes but harmful towards neutral synergy often. Might go back to snow
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Anyone know why Dragon didn't get any cards that work with Neutrals?
I was wanting to make Neutral Dragon but was surprised that they didn't get any at all.
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>>181988915
Thank you.
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I've gotten 8 normal Jeannes and I've always kept a play set of her but vialed the rest.
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We need to decide for once and for all which craft has the cutest girls.
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>>181988950
Oz is probably the worst meme this expac.

And people actually wasted tons of vials on her because it seemed a good meme.
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>>181988906
I think it's just a site that takes shit from twitter and 2ch without asking and summarizes them in articles. They are pretty common in Japan.
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>>181989253
She's not a meme though. She's great and will only get better as more spells come out.
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>>181989045
Because Dragon was the original Neutral class.
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>>181989045
It was the closest thing to a neutral class because of Sahaquiel and Bahamut. No other class used those cards commonly besides Dragon. It's probably the only one that uses Queen of the Dread Sea in any deck because turn 10 is too slow for everyone else.
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>>181988568
good job anon
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>>181989045
Because dragon too strong in tempest you see 13 damage from hand unlike horseman of balance that needs a board :^)

Besides dragon has always been a bunch of neutrals: Baha, Saha, Luci, Isra, Zeus, etc.
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>>181989343
Too bad you lose those spells when she dies. Because of that she'll never be eligible for dshift and will always be a doubtful liability for any other rune deck.

I wonder what's the thought process in making spawn with 0 drawbacks drop to win and other legos like Oz.
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>>181989218
When did she grow huge boobs?
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>>181989698
>throw Winter's Caprice into your deck to turn her into a Snowman and remove the Last Words, plus fuck over the opposing board

wow it's fucking nothing
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>>181989045
Because they want to make dragon weaker this expac.
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What's this deck running wraith and wolves? I miss those dorks.
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>starting to see haven everywhere
So this is how shadowverse ends...
Spawn you can at least counter... There is no stopping aegis...
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i gave up on playing vengeance
it's just autolose against burn rune and fucking spawn
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What's the best way I can spend my rubies after buying the Rage of Bahamut leaders pack?
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>>181990015
HAHAH TIME FOR BATS.
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>Alice
>buff all neutral followers on your field and in your hand
>take 1 damage for each card buffed

BOOM, balanced.
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>>181990035
Arena.
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>>181989829
Yeah, amazing idea. Being forced to bring winters caprice just because of Oz. And also disable your own board every time you do just because of a shitty lego.

How about not even using her in the first place? Sounds better to me. And if you want to fuck the opponent LW mutagen is a better option by miles away because it transforms their board only.
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>>181990096
bats is garbage compared to neutralshit
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>>181990131
She isn't a Blood card, that's silly. Just make her buffs disappear when she's destroyed.
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>>181990131
>taking 4 damage to snowball
Sure why not, I'll take it anyday.
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>>181989795
in gbf
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>>181990192
if you're spamming spells why are you worried about your board?

you are turning the strongest removals, face damage, and more into 1pp cards, and you're worried about the fucking Levi that's going to die next turn anyway shut the fuck up.
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>>181989795
board buffs mang, also
>that
>huge
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>>181990131
>take 2~4 damage
>"""""downside"""""
>>
Just give Alice last words: permanently delete a random card from your account
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>its gotten to the point where the enemy playing a 1pp and you not having a 2pp removal is a concede play
What were they THINKING
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>>181990481
not him but youre retarded, everyone will rush to remove oz because he can easily fuck youre hand, and no snowman is not an answer
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>>181990626
They were making turn 1 meaningful.
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>>181989696
>>181989631
>>181989451
I know that, but it's still not enough of a reason to not give them even 1 craft card, underpowered even, that works with neutrals.
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>>181990651
how is caprice not an answer? It literally stops the fucking problem. Play her turn 6 and Caprice plus whatever other spells are in your hand now cost 1, play Caprice, fuck over opponent's board, you can't get your hand raped.
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>>181990578
That way they'd have to buy even more packs
You're hired
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>play my shitty burn rune in unranked
>get match with control spawniggers
>IT'S ALWAYS FUCKING CLAUDIA LEADER
>they always save evo or only evos bapho just to remove old fart of balance
>they don't evo the spawn to trade with my shitty follower on board so I get hit for 8 damage
>gets muta bolt
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>>181990737
They gave them Windmill.
>>
I want to shove my fingers in Arisa's cute little mouth
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>>181990816
>Claudia

seeing as you're playing in French I'm surprised you didn't instantly surrender
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>>181990816
What's with Claudia players, always trying to otk with spawn.
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>>181990943
Maybe they're trying to play OTKRoach minus the math.
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>>181990481
Because if I'm playing earth/aggro/neutral variations my board is valuable? Also sometimes I have more than one copy of the spell I used and I want to use it again either because lack of pp or because there's no targets left but if she gets removed I lose it all which can cost my victory. Losing a second mutagen is not funny.

I'm telling from experience because this happened. You sure you used Oz before?
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why does runecraft has all shitty legos?
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>>181991042
Because D-shift is a legendary in disguise as a gold.
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>>181990894
Thanks, now I have a card to work with!
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>>181991042
>hulking giant only has spell protection
>B&B and Hero have complete protection from everything but follower direct damage and transform

Really makes you think.
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>>181990796
>removing youre board because you need to evade the banish
dont you see the issue here? if youre hand and board were empty then oz would be good there but you know that doesnt happen a lot
its very likely that you have a couple of followers on board alive before turn 6, why would you want to snowman those?
dont get me wrong oz is good but very fucking risky and the chances of fucking you up are high
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>>181991262
Anon, don't you even know duckmill meme?
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>>181990930
>claudia leader

wait... you can buy new leaders? i cant find it in any of my options.
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>>181990015
Vengeance aggro may not ever be viable again. It only worked in ToG because the meta killed off both combo and aggro, allowing you to actually do something as stupid as cutting your HP in half on turn 4 and get away with it.
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>>181991031
yes I am sure. I'm not talking for the burn rune deck. in burn rune it's usually used turn 7 or so for a double Demonic Strike to finish out a game. I am talking for future expansions. there exists, currently, a way to get Oz's ability without the potential for the Last Words drawback. That is a fact, and if you can't or won't make use of it, that isn't the fault of the legendary being bad.

honestly, as it is, most uses of Oz are to throw 2 Demonic Strikes at the face at turn 7 to close out a fast game.
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>>181991647
Claudia is Vampy/Vania's French name
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>>181990943
Unga Bunga Claudia go face
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>>181991042
Oz is extremely good
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>>181990930
I really like this post
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>>181991363
More like Hulk made Cygames realize simply being untargetable isn't good enough to protect Big Guys at this point. There were too many ways to immediately kill Hulk, and it only got worse.
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>>181991656
i can still get away with it easily
just not against spawn which basically if you ever go lower than 8 is autolose
and burn rune is almost impossible to win
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>Evolve turn 5 Baphomet into enemy follower because I don't have a better play
>Opponent concedes
>I was playing a Carabosse deck
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Need a concede for dailies 66303
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>>181990930
>>
>Roach Forest or D.Shift
>"If I play these cards in the proper order and keep track of my math, I'll be able to secure a one turn kill on turn X."
>Spawn Blood
>Duh me do nuffin for 2 turns and get OTK

great game
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>http://shadowverse-matome.com/catacchi-alchemy-witch-1173
there are a couple of interesting decks there, i wish i rolled a couple of abominations, sounds like levi on steroids
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>>181964468
>don't want to craft what's going to be a staple in every single haven deck until formats are introduced, even replacing beastcall in several decks

but why
>>
honest question, do you guys genuinely think formats are coming to Shadowverse any time soon?
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Dragon, Haven, or Forest for arena?
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>>181992306
>formats
whats that
>>
>>181992306
later this year or next one probably

>>181992358
I prefer haven but dragon works too
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any support for old vampy aggro blood?
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>>181992373
assuming you're not being facetious, formats are basically where large swaths of cards, often entire series, are banned from play for any or no reason other than "to shake things up"

so basically they'd introduce a new expansion plus a new format where, say, Darkness Evolved and Rise of Bahamut cards are both banned.

It's a thing that CCGs do so they can start printing cards that are slight variations of existing cards but usually worse because they've run out of ideas and also want to try and fix early-expansion power creep.
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>>181992306
I think we'll see them eventually, but I wouldn't wager on them coming in for over a year. Despite the current imbalance we're not really at a point where cards need to be split to control deck building space.
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What if there was something like this but for legendaries
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>>181992306
They'd have to release a new large Standard-sized set like MtG does every 2 years. Even with so many cards being powercreeped by now, there's still a lot of staples that would severely limit deck options if removed.
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>pulled my second Jabberdonkey

Convince me not to liquidate my Fafnirs to make a third and just meme it up for the rest of the format.
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>>181993307
most of the Jabbermeme decks only use 2 so I say fucking do it. At least you'll have some fun with the game, right?
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Reminder that Elana has always been the most cancerous thing in this game
>b-but muh t3 do nothing
t3 literally doesn't matter when you heal it all back and still threaten board with bunnies and aria
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>>181993307
Do it.
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>>181993307
Why the fuck do you still have unliquified Fafnirs? Delete him and make literally anything instead.
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>>181993307
Just use the two you have and try to make it work once. You'll forget this idea pretty soon.
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>>181993307
I think he's better at two copies. Reduce your odds of pulling more of them off his effect.
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>>181953759
There has never been anything wrong with Daria
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Someone post a control haven list please.
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>>181953638
MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM
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>>181993307
Because tilting at windmills is more consistent form of memes
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>>181993423
>10PP to 5
>Still at 20HP
What did he do, pass for 4 turns?
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>>181993696
Sounds like DShift.
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>Always the worst match up.
Why tho.
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>>181953638
I only need to draw Alice for something similar. I should have leveled Shadow to 100 during ToG when it was OP. Shit's hell right now. I'm gonna make a Nep deck after this to see if it works well.
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>>181991042
Daria is one of the most broken legendaries ever.
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>>181992306
How much would it change?

Look how nearly everyone replaced their early game with neutral shit this expansion. At this point the power-creep is so bad we create a new "format" almost every expansion.
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>>181991363
Hero only has protection from hard removal.
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>>181991963
>i can still get away with it easily
>just not against spawn
so you can't get away with it then
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>>181992306
This game is powercreeped so badly even formats won't do a thing
Every single expansion is already a format, since it bruteforces a completely different meta and almost none of the old decks remain viable. Storm haven is the only deck that actually persists.
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Is it just me or is Phantom Cat broken?
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>playing dragon
>blood gets me down to 6 hp by turn 4 thanks to double tove and double razory
>plays baphomet turn 5 while I had 3 followers
>"A WORTHY PERFORMANCE, A WORTHY PERFORMANCE"
>I don't survive spawn evo
>bring it on motherfucker
>next turn hit his face and conflag, destroying my own field
>he's sitting at about 12 hp
>"HMM?"
>he plays double disagreeable, lowering his hp to 8
>lightning blast and suicide scyther
>thinking...
>plays another tove, Grimnir, goblin leader
>HUMPTY DUMPTY MOTHER FUCKER
>thinking
>plays Alice and a BKB
>finally draw IT
>play windmill, suicide another scyther into alice
>thinking...
>he finally plays his spawn, hits face with BKB leaving me at 3
>double hamsa lethal
HEAR THE DUCKIES QUACK

In truth though, all he needed to do was drop Spawn, I was lucky he was retarded. Still super fun manipulating the board
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>>181994891
The issue with phantom cat is why play him on turn 6 when you can just play spawn instead.
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>>181995097
Oh, good point.
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>>181995097
If baph gets nerfed I could see phantom cat getting added to neutral spawn for damage and draw power.
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>>181995085
>playing dragon
Kill yourself.
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Too bad these are unplayable.
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>>181995283
t.salty spawnnigger
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>>181995283
You first shadownigger.
Still butthurt that we kept you from 60%+ wr
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>>181995097
>6 pp pot of greed with 5/5 body
Uh what the fuck is this and why does it even exist? Neutralniggers are gonna spam the ever living shit out of this once spawn or Baphomet get toned down.
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>>181993106
RIP dragon then.
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Why does SV crash my OBS?
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>>181995396
It also hits face for 0-4 depending on draws
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When is Cygames going to print cards that actually promote interaction?
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>>181995341
Tsubaki is not unplayable.
She killed spawn and set me up for lethal
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>make Alice a legendary
>give Feria Alice's ability on evolve
Did they...did they not think this through? I mean they made Alice a legendary for a reason, and you give a mook her ability for evo?
How stupid can they be.
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>>181995608
There's a lot of them. They just go full retard and force us to play new shit every cycle.
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The meme blood mask for spawn mirrors is incredible, I just cucked some retard in ranked with it, he didn't play around revelations and his spawn dying cause me 0 damage. FUCKING KEKED.
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>>181995785
>>181995785
>>181995785
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