XCOM General - /xcg/

Sniper rifles are useless.

I want to feel a sneks long tongue wrap around my rookies

I WANT A VIPER WIFE TO LOVE AND HAVE HER BEAR MY CHILDREN.

I want to marry Vahlen

>>181781061
I mean even my gunslinger has saved us a couple of times with a sniper rifle in squadsight. High level sharpshooters just don't fucking miss

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>>181781061

WRONG

Sniper Rifles AND Pistols are Useful.

>>181781075
I want to burn you both alive.

>>181781061
sniper rifles are godlike in LW2

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T51b & APA are out.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=961800020&searchtext=

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Reminder that the only things you should shoot inside vipers are bullets

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>>181781063

What boards, besides /x/ which is a given, would the aliens browse?

>>181746345 I like your idea of evil commander and bradford

>>181781604
/r9k/

>>181781604
/b/, so they could justify genociding us

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>>181781542

is the ayy world communist

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Avatars are for______.

>>181782126
Well its fully automated (MECs and shit) and from space, and probably gay as well who knows. Therefore ADVENT achieves fully automated gay space communism

>>181782230
humping

>>181782230
Weaboos

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Defend + rescue is easily the worst type of LW2 mission

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>deactivate a robot
>move soldier a single tile away from it
>miss

>>181781527

>I'M TELLING YOU! NUKES BLEW UP THE WORLD IN MY DIMENSION! NOT ZETANS!

>>181782408
working on it

>>181783278
That's XCOM baby

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>>181783915
Are you making fat soldiers or something?

>>181783989
im making the joey mod

>download lewd mods
>start new game
>everyone is wearing fairly normal radnomly assigned clothing except the australian
>shes wearing a flack jacket, goggles and a massive hemet, and no fucking pants
>she proceeds to get 7 kills in the first mission because everyone kept fucking up and she was the backup plan
>she dodged the commander while out of fucking cover
>she became the grenadier

>>181778516
That's... a War of the Chosen feature, anon. You can tell available shots by looking at the indicator that appears on enemies.

>>181784419
>a War of the Chosen feature
really?

>>181784606
Yes. I do not know why you seem to think it's base Gotcha Again.

Is there a limit to how many times the enemies will attack a single soldier within one turn? Because I left a dude out in the open in front of 4 advent by accident (blew up his cover) and only 2 of them attacked him. The other 2 shot at my other dudes in cover instead of the one standing out in the open with 3 HP left

>>181784725
thats just the game taking pity on you

>>181784061
Yeah but what is it?

>>181784857
adds joey

>>181784725

The AI in vanilla does pull it's punches, don't expect that in LW2 or ABA2 or any mod that improves the AI though,

>>181784813
>Play XCOM
>Have a guy in full cover, enemies disoriented
>Gets critted and killed in one shot

>Leave a guy out in the open
>He lives

Checks out

>>181784981
Yeah I can't even count how many times I thought I was about to have a disaster killing half my dudes, when instead the AI just goes on Overwatch or something

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>>181784981
>>181785145

>LW2
>snake binds your rookie
>Advent proceeds to unload their entire mags on him

Someone was reeing about a rocket moving ten tiles off target or whatever last thread. If you're still here:

That thing only calculates the scatter within one standard deviation. You basically missed a 95% shot.

are grazes good or bad in LW2
I left it on default and many of my shots have ended up as a graze

>>181785541
It's a double edged sword. Turns near hits and near misses into grazes.

I don't care for it personally.

>>181785541
is matter of opinion

my opinion is that a higher possibility of guaranteed damage is more damaging to your soldiers than the enemy

but my opinion is also that bullshit is what XCOM is about

gotcha again's overwatch/pod activation/smoke previews are fucking godsends
i never want to play without this mod ever again

>>181785903
>playing with cheats

if a haven rebel gets shot during a mission does that actually effect anything

>>181786150
you lose the rebel

>>181786646
no I mean just wounded
the after action screen had the standard gravely wounded thing but I dont know if it was actually serious

>>181786795
no, for rebels it's all or nothing

>takes almost 10 hours to download the game after removing everything from the computer

This had better fix the "mods stopped working" problem or else someone's gonna die.

>>181785903
Agreed. I got PTSD remembering watching the Los indicators on enemy health bars while moving my cursor one square at a time trying to determine where I can move my guys without triggering the pod that my concealed ranger can see. Such a great quality of life feature. Plus I used to always forget that an enemy went on Overwatch and kill my guys by moving them around.


Although that mod DOES have one little thing that irks me. You still get an Overwatch patching icon even when you have a soldier with shadowstep selected. It's a small nitpick, but I would love if it didn't show for that specific case

>>181787194
I hope it works out for you because I enjoy living

>>181787445
It's weird, though. In order:

-game stops letting me change how many people are in my squad after changing it to 6 and then buying the squad size upgrades
-uninstall it once and redownload
-didn't change anything, squad size still bonked
-start game later saying "fuck it" but this time it does the "stay on black screen that forces you to restart the computer because resolution hates fullscreen" thing
-computer restarted, the squad size thing is fixed but now none of the mods will work even though they're in the correct folder
-delete absolutely everything and installing it again

I just want to play the fucking game, had to lose a shitload of progres thanks to this bullshit.

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Thought I bought the game on the steam sale, but I guess I'm retarded.

Do I get the deluxe or regular version of XCOM 2?
I'm looking at the DLC, and it all looks awful, with the exception of the one that gives you a mech. Is the DLC necessary for mods?

>>181788552
only mods that effect the DLC need the DLC
the MEC one is the only one that actually effects gameplay, the other one is cosmetic and one just adds optional boss aliens

>>181788804
>alien hunters doesn't affect gameplay

>>181789020
the only thing worth giving a shit about is the axe
everything else is a fucking meme

>When you misclick and path though fire

>>181788505
The squad size thing might be borked into your save file rather than the game itself.

>>181789514
>when you misclick and send your trooper into fuck knows where

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>>181789514
>When you're playing grenade surgeon trying to find that one pixel on the screen that allows you to blow up a very specific set of enemies and environment
>You move the mouse 0.01mm as you click and fuck everything up

>>181789563
I deleted the saved games before I uninstalled the first time and it didn't fix it.

>>181789931
I hate that explosion damage is tied to tiles now rather than the sphere

>>181790003
That's weird dude, hopefully this fixes everything for you

>>181789931
>when you play grenade surgeon and find that pixel in which your grenade does most damage
>click
>remember it's long cock 2 and boxes shrug off HE explosions

>>181790102
Same, because I want to use these mods. And I'm never buying the squad upgrades if I've altered the number in the ini again.

Best mods for vanilla? Mostly quality of life mods, but bug fixes and stuff appreciated too.
Right now I've got Gotcha Again, the one that shows wounded time on the post mission screen, instant avenger menus, and the one that shows you what every item in the black market can be used for if you don't sell it.

>>181790884
Oh and I don't mind some small balance changes either, ones that make the game BETTER rather than just flat out easier/harder, I think I'm going to install True Concealment for example.

>>181791041
>installing True Concealment
Sure, if you're a basic bitch

>>181790884
retroactive AWC is basically a cheat but honestly having the hidden abilities spices things up a lot

>>181791398
Hey man, I already beat the game on Commander Ironman once without it. I just don't like that I have to rush the first two turns in concealment because it doesn't make sense to me.

>>181791398
this desu
true concealment = sniperfags ONLY

>>181791572
I always thought retroactive AWC was intended behaviour

>>181791746
the chance to miss out on abilities for certain soldiers is the incentive to build it as early as possible
even with the mod I still do that, though

wizards of the chosen will DELET AWC

>>181791924
theyre just splitting it up tho

>>181791859
Ah. I always build it as one of my first things because half healing time is so useful

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>>181791924

I'll delete you

I had to remove all of the armor and prop mods I had because I was getting triggered by my rookies in gatecrasher always being generated with random chunks of power armor and shit

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What's the most fitting class for Viper?

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>it's a "enemy AI uses pod activation to their advantage by placing all units within activation range of the pod preventing you from meleeing or shooting anything above 25% chance to hit" episode
I hate this gimmick so much.

>>181792563
That's why I bring 3 grenadiers in early game. If they don't have cover you don't have to move up.

>>181792491
Assault or sniper

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>>181792689
>use grenadiers
>they can't destroy the cover because fuck you that's why
Even when the cover is at the center of the AoE it doesn't destroy it. While that's happening your cover's getting shred to bits. Also made a small adjustment to the pic.

I get that the timer on the "recover item/intel" missions are basically because ADVENT is doing a controlled demolition on it

the question is: why

>>181793574
They get intel on XCOM/Resistance operatives targeting it. Either that or the data/item is no longer of use to them.

>>181793574
>good luck Bond, this message will explode in 10 seconds

imagine if you had to get a successful hack to free VIPs/disarm crates
imagine if your soldiers had a chance to miss the relay
where is this mod

>>181793574
ADVENT runs on a strict schedule with an infinite amount of tasks that need to be finished. "Accidental" destruction of ADVENT intel is just scheduled to happen at 5:20 and your squad touched down at 5:12.

>>181783989
Looks like Chris Christie

>>181794106
My favourite way to deal with avenger defense missions is sending in a ranger with conceal and then just squadsight sniping the objective with impunity

>>181792983
>playing memewar 2
>complaining about artificial difficulty

>>181794341
is that not the intended way to do it?
also why the fuck can deadeye miss it

I blew up my first civillian on a terror mission today. They were surrounded by like 3 Chryssalids. Am I a bad person now?

>>181794483
you cant let the Ayys beat XCOM at anything, not even civilian body count

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>>181794483
No anon, you are making us proud.

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>>181794483

>feeling sorry for collaborators

>>181794106
Why stop there?
>Knocking out enemy VIPs has a 50% chance to fail and take counter-damage
>Aliens can take multiple shots on defend the relay missions

>>181794731
But it was XCOM: EW, so they really dindu nuffin.

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>>181795032
Fuck civies. They will be saved through fire and flame.

>>181794896
>send in ranger with bladestorm
>VIP counter attacks
>ranger counter counter attacks
>successfully knocks out VIP

>>181794483
I failed a terror mission last night because a car blew up waaay off screen and killed two civies. Like, the camera panned over to the very edge of the map, I hadn't even come close to uncovering fog of war in that area yet. Ka-boom.
Don't you just love how cars can light on fire anyone so much as breathes in their direction?

>>181794896
Man, the ayys need to step up their relay game. It's not even fair really. Their relays have 8 health, resistance relays have 44.

>>181795494
Unless an alien is by one. Then you can rocket then HE grenade it and it's fine.

>>181794896
>retaliation civvies can randomly decide life is too cruel and kill themselves
>escorted VIPs can panic

>>181795731
>Hostile VIPs make a full dash to run away from your soldiers on their turn, every turn they can see you

>>181795867
>hostile VIPs have a pistol

>>181795731
>Supply raids require you to successfully hack each individual traincar
>The X4 charges you place on alien facilities go off in 5 turns, killing your soldiers if they haven't evaced yet
>Terror missions have a Bradford voice clip after everybdead civvie

>>181796194
>>Terror missions have a Bradford voice clip after everybdead civvie
this is just going too far

>>181796194
>>181796314
>Retaliation missions have Bradford say something on every action you and the ayys make

>>181795606
Why doesn't the resistence just make armor out of the same material? Or just duct tape one to a spark for that sweet 44 health?

>enemies have AA that shoot down the skyranger
>50% chance of all your soldiers dying at the start of every mission
>50% chance of all your soldiers dying at the end of every mission

>>181796430
>Retaliation missions have badford shaking the back of your chair and screaming in your ear non stop for the whole duration of the mission

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>>181796526
This isn't what we meant by airgame.

>>181796026
>It's modded with a Superior Repeater

Is there anything funnier than a civilian running an overwatch

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Watching Pudding do a vertical that would put the entire NBA to shame

>>181796696
>The game just plays every one of Bradford's voice clips, simultaneously, progressively louder, over and over again, at all times until you win
>Even on the start screen

>>181796821
It's the funniest shit ever, only time a civilian has ever done anything useful. I don't even mind when it happens on retaliation missions because it's just way too funny and it benefits me

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>>181796956 replying to >>181796821

Which one should I get guys?

Also Is Demolition worth giving up Suppression?

>captcha

CONSULTING Zeno

what did they mean by this

>>181797035
Meant this for
>>181796668

>>181797174
>Covering fire over threat assessment
Guardian

Demolition sucks

>>181797174
Ever vigilant is the safer money, though it really depends on how often you retreat/need to move a soldier in from a really far position. Personally, I don't trust the 50% for a second overwatch, since it gives RNG way too much of a chance to screw you over.

>>181792983
>>use grenadiers
>>they can't destroy the cover because fuck you that's why
Are you by chance playing with Long War 2? That mod neuters explosives to be way less useful, comically so. It doesn't even make any sense that grenades have a hidden percentage chance of destroying red highlighted cover objects. An explosive is an explosive. If I threw a frag grenade at a fence it would be unusable as cover, guaranteed.

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>>181797406
tfw its too late

She's my medic so i keep her mid range all the time.

So are these the final evolution of Floaters from EU/EW

>>181797690
Yup, which also technically means they're mutons

>>181797690
Yep. When you consider that floaters are implied to be chopped up mutons to begin with, the Archon King is like 4 or 5 levels deep.

>>181797775
>>181797842
I always Headcanon Floaters as the runty Mutons that didn't survive whatever testosterone crazed society Mutons had.

I'm counting like 6 or 7 levels
That's some Digimon level shit right there.

>>181797775
Heh, funny how similar my response ended up being to yours, considering I didn't read it first.

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Which Space Magic shit should i learn next?

>>181797686
>Are you by chance playing with Long War 2?
Yep.

>>181798023
>6 or 7
I only see 1.Mutons 2.Genetically modified mutons 3. Chopped up into floaters 4. Refurbished into Archons 5. Mutated into Archon king

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Is she kawaii? UGUU

>>181798074
Let's kiss

>>181798153
I'd say, Domination since it is surprisingly not shit compared to XCOM 1, seeing as it lasts the entire mission. A lot of aliens really are OP on your side (shieldbearers for free hp, gatekeepers for infinite zombies, etc.)

>>181798153
Domination

>>181798289
Okay, but you gotta wear a condom or a mindshield.

>>181798210
Mutons>Floaters>Heavy Floaters>Archon>Archon Elite(There's always a scarier version of Ayys isnt there?)>Archon King

Granted I haven't seen an Archon King but everyone here seems to be afraid of it.

>>181798352
>>181798370
Okay Cool I already have Null Lance and Soul Fire for Offence

>>181798504
>but everyone here seems to be afraid of it.
It can single handedly wipe out an entire squad

>>181798593
Don't trust this yellowbelly. The Archon King is a wimp, and you wanna take him on as early as possible for the armor.

>correctly identify which civilian is a faceless
>throw a frost grenade at it
>ayy turn
>faceless unthaws and attacks
Fuck off

>>181798153
Just keep them in the tube.

>>181795606
The health scales with time

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>>181798696
>DEVASTATE

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>>181798857
>not being so paranoid that you overwatch on Civvies
>>181798593
Not if I dont go in into the vipers breeding cave
>>181799072
I am! gunna learn Fuse next. Sounds like it would do big deeps.

>train
>very Difficult
>heavy lancer

Just-just gotta stay sane

>>181798593
>>181799812
Don't keep your team clustered and always have at least Burn, Poison, or Acid Burn on him, because the DoT stops his Icarus Drop as well as damaging him every time he gets a turn, meaning you only need to worry about Devastate. Also Frost Bomb locks him down for 2 Ruler Reactions so you can get at least two attacks and hopefully more if you have soldiers with free action moves and chain moves ready and in range, plus if he wanders into range while you have Overwatching soldiers he doesn't Ruler React to Overwatch attacks. The only major pain is his massive amount of health which means you'll have to fight him several times before he dies.

What are most of you guys playing? Long Dong 2 Campaign or Vanilla Campaign w/ Long War 2 mods?

>>181799812
You should really just keep them in the tube unless if someone on your normal roster is wounded as any wounds they suffer need to be healed first before they can resume psi training.

so what happens to xcom when the ayys are gone?

>>181800151
Temporary government, followed by the commander's official appointment to God king of humanity.

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>>181800071
I'll keep that in mind incase I wake them up. Prob next campaign.

>>181800134
I put him back in the tube

>3 Grenadiers

Oh boy.

If you dash away from a ruler do they get two actions or just one

>>181800071
>you'll have to fight him several times before he dies.

Not always true, depending on what tech you have at the time. I fought him about mid-late in my campaign and had rupture. Activating him with it, he came into my overwatch and was already half dead. When he tried to escape, he was frozen and then two Rapid Fire and then a final Sniper Rifle shot killed him.

>>181799812
Fuse is ok. Not the best, but can be interesting if you catch some units on Roof tops. It's mostly good for getting rid of the possibility of a unit using a Grenade then for it's damage. But you shouldn't be grouping up anyway. Hopefully once the expansion hits, it will get more use.

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>>181800465
>running away
I think its only one reaction. Unless you do the blue first and then the yellow.

Hey guys post buffs
idk whats causing this

>>181800593
>It's mostly good for getting rid of the possibility of a unit using a Grenade then for it's damage
Don't forget blowing up cover if you don't have a grenadier in range to do it

>>181800465
Just one

>>181800689
Squad Cohesion

>>181800719
This can be good yes, but I find it doesn't happen a lot because either people aren't there to capitalize on it, or I was already flanking them anyway. Or they took cover behind something non destructable. Hate that shit.

>>181800259
i can dig it

How exactly do troopers accumulate XP in the vanilla X2? I know LW2 changes it so that like 90% of their XP comes from completing missions which distributes the XP evenly across deployed troopers, but what about vanilla?

Side note: I just noticed the Enemy Unknown Skyranger in this picture.

>>181798183
>>Are you by chance playing with Long War 2?
>Yep.
There's your problem, Anon.

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>>181801285
Forgot the image like an idiot. Also this isn't the Skyranger, but instead a Raven.

>>181801285
>Side note: I just noticed the Enemy Unknown Skyranger in this picture.
Yeah, I also can see wonder woman's invisible car right next to it.

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I've unironically never used a meme beacon lads, are they worth it?

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>1 damage
>gravely wounded
>10 day recovery

So AWC got a secret perk for my Lone Ranger, Hail of Bullets

Which perk should i take? I'm leaning towards Untouchable so I can pull some whackamole shenanagins with Implacable

>>181802263
we're supposed to use those?

>>181802263
They are rather dank.

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Is full override worth it?

>>181803424
>Taking ever vigilant over failsafe
Honestly I don't get the appeal of that ability, it feels like a gimmick

Do the Archon King's attacks work inside buildings?
Cuz I'm thinking that luring him inside of one would be a pretty safe way to fight him

>>181803631
It's useful when you need to start defending your areas. Lots of MEC units means you don't have to worry about shit.

>>181803424
Definitely. Think of it as Domination for robots. Works best if you also have equipment to soften up enemy hack resistances too.

>>181803631
Ever vigilant's pretty useful for frontline soldiers who do a lot of reaction fire/overwatch, since you can have them OW on a yellow move instead of a blue one. Dash to flank an enemy, boom they'll get shot during their turn. Great for Rangers and Gunners. It can work too on an OW Specialist.

>>181800459
what is jarrah wearing

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>>181797035
>mfw this is what Jake meant when he said, "You want to feel like there are other characters either with or without you. I always felt the Geoscape is really cold. Nobody is really commenting on the things you’re doing. It doesn’t feel as epic as, say, a Civ" and this is in WotC
>mfw instead of only Dadford it's that stupid bitch Chosen's voice and they're constantly talking over each other on the geoscape

>>181806120
>mfw instead of only Dadford it's that stupid bitch Chosen's voice and they're constantly talking over each other on the geoscape
Holy shit the cringe.

I hope the other Chosen have slightly less horrible voices than the Assassin. Her voice is really quite comical if I'm honest.

Weren't we supposed to get a new trailer today? I didn't see it posted to their YouTube page.

>>181806343
the warlock seemed alright to me in the trailer
the hunter could go either way depending on the lines

>>181800259
>switching from one Ethereal government to another

>>181806120
He did say that there would also be a resistance radio and also there would be the news anchors talking about what the terrorists did. So it sounds like there will be a lot more banter going on.

>>181806864
>SHOCKING footage of multiple UNARMED CIVILIANS blown up by xcom soldiers!
It's not my fault they were in the blast zone

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>It's a sharpshooter carried the team episode.

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Mistakes have been made.

>>181806969
Meanwhile I and a bunch of others won't even deny it. The infidels in the cities will be purged, praise be the commander and Bradford his prophet.

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>>181806864
>news anchors
Ooh baby, I miss those fine women from the intro. Though I think you're remembering wrong and he only mentioned the Advent Speaker. Seeing/hearing more of him is one of the features I'm looking forward to most in the expansion.

>>181807120
Me too. I know fans give the game a lot of shit for the NPCs frequently talking and carrying on conversations, but I think it's a fantastic way to provide exposition in a fairly natural way while also world building. It makes the characters feel a bit more like... well, characters, instead of just "the guy in the research lab".

I'm looking forward to all the added character building and story stuff in the expansion. I really enjoy that kind of stuff in X2.

Am I fucked in LW2 if Im just on the edge of 2018 and Im 3 away from Avatar being completed and only just barely maybe getting the first base down?

I've done Blacksite and have hijack the codex + psionic gate available, and I should have maybe done the gate way earlier considering I was afraid of the gatekeeper and they're appearing regularly now. I've just researched Warden and done half of Coilguns so far.

I realized thats all maybe overly specific but I have no fucking idea how LW2 works, this is maybe my 5th (and furthest) attempt, and I'd really just like to have a decent chance of winning for once. I don't savescum too hard, just reset really important missions

>>181807572
I wouldn't mind the dialogue so much if the game didn't stop everything it's doing to focus solely on it

>>181807572
Just how lonely are you?

>>181807939
>Am I fucked in LW2
Yes.

>>181808060
I mean more fucked than usual, Im obviously already used to being gangbanged

>>181789931
>lining your shot up with the mouse but not executing it with the enter key
Sometimes you even have to time it to the enemies' idle animations.

>>181808132
You can try, but you'll probably not succeed.

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>>181808284
horse shit

I refuse to believe I've missed grenade hits because of idle animations. I fucking won't do it. I cannot handle the mental fucking stress of all those failures and the future patience required to wait for some shitbag advent to peak a corner just so I can fucking flashbang him or some stupid shit that won't even matter because no matter how disoriented, burning, acid burning, frozen, or whatever he is, he'll still hit that shot.

Fuck you.

Just reduced avatar project progress by 5 squares in one mission lol. Killed an avatar during the Advent Forge mission

>>181808852
>I refuse to believe I've missed grenade hits because of idle animations.
Only applies to X1

Damn, I just got 2 back to back missions. Assaulted an alien facility, and when I got back, the INSTANT I went back into the bridge I have a retaliation mission. Good thing I flawless'd the facility I guess, I feel bad for my soldiers though.

"Hey congratulations on your successful mission! Don't bother coming in though, get back in the skyranger you're going on another"

Why did Pavonis have to name the stealth/melee class Shinobi? Sounds like a name middle schoolers thought would be cool. Something basic like Recon or Scout would have been fine.

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>>181810204
NO DON'T YOU'LL BRING BACK THE SHITPOSTING

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>>181810263

Fuck that, here's the previous thread.

>>181810608
>the biggest word isn't magnificent

/xcg/ is boring these days

>>181810608
>Vahlen fucking
yes please

>>181810608
>Like
Why does /xcg/ talk like 16 year old white girls?
...Unless
A-are you all 16 year old white girls?

>>181810821
>white

you wish

we're all niggers here

>>181810608

Like, just get even, right? Vanilla bad, mods need. Every turn trigger Viper alien.

>>181810608
>LIKE JUST GET GAME
>two point person squad
>get even
>mods need going without changes
>remember Ethereals
>LW2 time every turn
thank god LOS isn't the biggest word in that cloud. those were dark times.

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>>181810608
>better mention War

>>181810608
XCOM SEE POD, SHOOT

>>181810608
Isn't there an option for this with more colors?

>>181810608
>evac man squad
>snek fuck
>stop dlc
>thanks graze
>Xvideos
>zombie fucked
>free fun
>flank shot idea nice
>rulers still hit much
>vahlen science

>>181810608
>research bitch clone toy
someone put a stop to what Tygan's doing in his lab

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>squad of all rookies
>enemy is holed up inside this building and won't let me beaglerush them
>clock is ticking away

>>181781535
But what if I want to shoot plasma or laser inside them.

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>>181810608
>2nd most used word is JUST
Checks out.

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>>181810608

>>181811551

>implying that's not Vahlen's doing

>>181811912
but that's forbidden love!

>>181811625
>plasma

see a doctor anon, its supposed to be white not pink

>>181812031
Everything Vahlen does is forbidden.

>>181789514
>>181789931
Misclicks are the reason I can't play Ironman. I fear too much.

>Want to capture ayy
>His hp is down to 1
>Can't move in close enough to zap him.
>Whaterver just suppress him for now and move in next turn.
>He tries to run
>Supression kills him
Fuck you that literally never happened to me. They either hunker down or try to shoot with 1% chance. They have never tried to run out of cover.

>>181812395
Ironman is doable even with misclicks because if you do misclick, you can alt+F4 to reset to the beginning of your turn

>>181780867
Did XCOM 2 loading times get fixed after release or not?

>>181813451

I haven't played since release until last week or so but they seem kind of long. The longer I play the longer they are. The worst ones are from Mission -> Loading Screen -> Avenger. Any other loading screen is relatively quick, but the one I mentioned is slow as fuck.

>>181813417
Oh. Maybe I'll try it out sometime then.

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>Domination on an Andromeda
I AM UNSTOPPABLE
FUCK YOUR COVER AYYS, I'LL DESTROY IT ON MY WAY OVER TO PUNCHING YOUR FUCKING FACE OFF
NICE BUILDING CHUMPS, I'M JUST GONNA MAKE A NEW DOOR RIGHT HERE
ENJOY BEING MELTED BY ACID
ALSO I'M INVINCIBLE

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>Vindicare assassin voice mod
>Rogue custom class
>Infiltration suit
>sneaking up
>spots enemies
>"One or one thousand, I WILL KILL THEM ALL!"
>proceeds to kill them all
>mfw
40K + XCOM is best marriage

>>181814769
scool

>>181814598
Until you die, then you just hack it all over again.

>>181814825
This fucker doesn't die, enemies aren't smart enough to shred it's armor. He took a Crit from an elite trooper and took 4 damage

Does anyone here ever go fire and steel over incinerator?
I have an exo-suit mobile shooty technical and I'm considering it, but i keep thinking I'm just gonna end up regretting it.

I like how, when undetected, enemies like the Andromeda will just casually walk around at a leisurely pace, destroying all the lamps and walls on the way.

>>181815674
Burnout + Incinerator makes flamethrower usable. I'd say pass on Fire and Steel.

>>181815726
They also destroy cars and damage themselves, promptly activating combat music and then running towards xcom

>>181815917

I had a sectopod pod with 2 advents in it, they were walking through what looked like a car showroom with 3 cars in it. The sectopod destroyed the cars and the advent guys were almost dead by the time I activated them. Pretty funny.

>>181815726
>tfw see a few lancers casually walk though fire on a supply raid
>tfw 2 minute ayy activity turns

>>181810608
>XvideosCOM
Wew that sounds spicy as fuck.

>>181815917
>>181816007
That's hilarious.

>>181816046
It really is. Makes true concealment fun as fuck just following around and watching such ayys destroy the very facilities and places they're supposed to protect.

>>181811572
Looks like you should have used True Concealment.

>>181815893
Yeah I know, I have an incinerator technical already and it's a huge boost.
I think I will give fire and steel a miss, 1 extra dmg per burn turn isn't as great as lighting another cunt or two on fire.

>>181813451
The longest loading time I get now is about 10 seconds, so I wouldn't say it's that long. I also have a SSD though, so maybe that helps.

>>181816121
Speaking of True Concealment, I wonder if it'll be overpowered as fuck in the expansion. The new Reaper class is like a super ninja-sniper that lives in the shadows, so it could make True Concealment ridiculous. I mean the reapers are able to lay explosives on enemies and around the map while 100% remaining undetected, and they can get abilities unlocked which allow them to kill enemies with no chance of being detected.

>>181816404
Probably. I plan to do a near-vanilla run of it when it comes out so I know first hand how different it will be from the base game.

After that comes the fun modding stuff.

>>181803424
Does Full Override work on Sectopods?
Do captured enemies join squads as MECs or do they only act as regional defense buddies?

What was the cause of your first ever failed campaign, /xcg/?

>EU
>landed abductor
>send my A-team because I literally have nobody else
>Squad size of 5, basic armor and laser weapons, only have a heavy laser
>Still a shitter, ending turns with dashes
>first pod revealed, just some shitty thin men and something else
>then a 2nd pack walks on screen
>some sleek DVD floats on in
>starts shitting on everyone with long range grenades, destroying cover so the other aliens can kill us easily
>moves pretty quick, does some melee range AOE on 3 dudes who all die
>last soldier is a heavy with heat ammo and the laser
>gets fucked anyway
>killed probably 2 aliens on the entire map

It was at that point I got gud all thanks to /xcg/, thanks boys

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Are there any mods thst introduce soldier stats variation without me installing long dong 2?

>>181818681
The Long War 2 Toolbox has it iirc

>>181818681

Long War Toolbox has it. It also has a few other 2nd wave options like Not Created Equally for maximum rng memes.

>scout out a pod with my weebwarrior
>watch it waltz around on green alert
>paths to see one of my soldiers
>sectoid panics one of my soldiers
did i just get memed or is mindspin a green alert action now?

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>>181819452
*unsheathes katanaxe*
nothin personnel

>>181816404
one of those policy things you can pick is pseudo true concealment, so i doubt it'll be too op

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How much more squads do I need to keep up with missions in lw2?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v75vUVGKTvc

More OpenXcom/Xcom Files anons. I swear to god some of these death screams sound more like orgasms than anything else.

>>181820881
Four times that. 200 soldiers.

>>181820940
80% of those are equipped with plasma weapons because even light mission are a drag without.

The resources you need to equip everything is insane.

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>>181789209
>frost grenades are a meme

>>181820881
30 to 40 soldiers is enough, anything above is overkill

>>181821461

That's a meme alright

>>181821461
If you want the enemies to not move you might as well use a gas grenade

>>181822868


>enemy can't move
>just throws a grenade instead

fuck off retard

>>181822868
>>181821461
Frost grenades have saved my ass so many times against surprise ruler buttsex.

>>181822868
>enemies can't act while frozen
>they can act while poisoned

Huh

>>181822991
Reading Comprehension.

>>181823162
Enemies heavily damaged and don't move > Enemies frozen and unable to move

>>181823316
>Reading Comprehension

That would be you. Freezing stuns the target. They are unable to do anything. At all. Gas poisons them. They are able to still throw grenades, use abilities, etc. henceforth, you are a fucking moron.

>>181823034
Maybe against the Viper, If you use a gas grenade on the Berserker Queen she stops moving to avoid getting posioned and thus wastes all her turns doing jack shit.

>>181823162
The majority of the time when you use a gas grenade on a group of bio units they get hit and don't move due to how the AI works with poison clouds.

>>181823316
>Enemies heavily damaged and don't move > Enemies frozen and unable to move
Am I missing something here? How does a poison grenade make enemies stay put?

I like frost grenades because they are available literally from the first mission in the game. You can build a frost grenade the second you get to the geoscape. Poison bombs require you to dissect an officer, excavate a build slot, build a proving grounds, and get lucky with RNGesus when you run an experimental grenade project.

>>181823454
>How does a poison grenade make enemies stay put?
It's one of the ways the AI reacts to the poison cloud on the ground.

Frost grenades are great for the early game but drop off once you get specialized grenades.

>>181823404
>They are able to still throw grenades, use abilities, etc. henceforth, you are a fucking moron.
They are standing out in the open for flank shots. Shoot them

>>181823454
>How does a poison grenade make enemies stay put?
Posioned units have lowered movement speed and depending on the unit might not have enough mobility to reach cover and thus don't move at all. The AI can also respond by not moving out of the poison due to not wanting to get poisoned despite already being poisoned, this can be observed on enemies like the Berserker queen and Archons

>>181801574
This shouldn't trigger my autism so hard, but Wonder Woman has an invisible jet, not a car.

Do PCs only last for one mission or what?

>>181825283
Do you mean combat sims? They last forever until they are manually removed or the soldier dies. In either case the combat sim is destroyed in the process. Otherwise, even if the soldier is wounded, the PCS stays active forever.

>>181807036
Squad wipe?

>>181807572
>NPCs frequently talking
Flavor text on the Avenger or whatever is good. Most people only have problems with constant dialogue on missions, and then mainly because it stops you from doing anything and often drags the camera away for like 30 seconds. As long as what they say doesn't cause the game to grind to a stop each time, I'll probably enjoy it.

>>181812726
Did you flank him on your turn? This makes them really want to run.

>max number of rebels on intel
>of five(5) lib 2 missions i've detected the highest infiltration time has been three days
rng was a mistake

Skirmisher?

>>181790373
Thank fucking god, everything works again. Hopefully I'll never have to do all of that again.

Skirmisher update:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUW2a3yoUHM

>>181827226
Holy shit. The Skirmisher is like having your own personal Ruler alien, taking actions every time the enemy does.

>>181827226
Nice. They've got their own Ruler Reaction ability and I like how they can use their grapple for several different things.

>>181827226
https://xcom.com/news/entries/xcom-2-war-of-the-chosen-the-skirmisher

doesnt really say anything the video doesn't unlike the other 2, oh well

jake playing wotc when

>>181827456
Maybe this will result in buffing the other grapples in game, so they can do more than one trick. (viper armor, wraith armor, spider suit)

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>finish first mission
>2 wounded, 1 was bad luck, 1 was a genuine mistake
>they promote to grenadier and specialist
>20 days

might restart desu

So are the 3 hero classes just 3 people? Can you only have one of each? Can you train or acquire more of them? I hope there is a mod to have more than one but make them very expensive.

>>181828153
You can have more than one, but they are all promoted from the same ability points pool, so you have to manage that resource between them wisely. Or if you want you can just spend all of your ability points on one guy and have him be a super soldier.

>>181828153

You can train and/or get more, but they are ridiculously expensive apparently. You get one for free each campaign, so i assume the first faction you get on your side gives you a free one, and then you have to pay if you want more, dunno if each faction gives you a free one, that sounds really broken though so i doubt it.

>>181827226
>Bullpup uses the rules of the Halo SMG
YES
Love it when a mod becomes canon

>>181828348

what rules?

>>181827967
Viper Armor is fine. Wraith and Spider would be good if you could upgrade them or equip an item to let you either poison or burn someone with the grapple (along with getting the second slot open so you can equip two things).

>>181828327
>>181828309
So a variation of getting the SPARK units, you get SPARK-001 for free and can then build more. I can dig it. The shared ability pool is annoying but understandable, though you'd likely only need one or two of each of them anyway.

>>181828437
>>181828348
They can fire twice in a turn. Remember that ability that enables you to fire at the start and not end your turn? These guns have them. Most people I think just shoot again with the second action point anyway.

>>181828437
Shooting costs 1 action, weapon range is short.

>>181828437
Shooting only costs one action and doesn't end your turn, but the weapon has aim penalties at longer ranges. Think of it sort of like an SMG/shotgun/assault rifle hybrid. I think it still does the same damage as a standard rifle.

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>this fucking insertion point

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePRZC_OulYc

>>181829676
vid said 3-4 damage, so less than a rifle

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>>181827226

>you now realize with battlelord this guy would be able to solo the viper king

Am I the only one who finds it sort of odd that the specialist is the only one who uses the standard assault rifles? I know rangers can equip assault rifles as well as their shotguns, but that seems like a total waste when the shotgun is much more devastating.

When you research a new weapon tier and purchase the upgraded rifles which are immediately available, the only class that benefits from that is the specialist - the class that probably fires their firearms the least.

>>181829846

I prefer them on rangers in the early game when enemies have less HP and the high damage and safety of a rifle outweighs the higher damage and dogshit accuracy of a shotgun. That's about it.

>>181827226
>basically has infinite actions against rulers
what the fuck

>>181826480
Yeah that must be it. Usually when I'm close enough to flank them I don't need to use supression since I'm close enough to throw flashbangs.

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>>181830195

do you guys put nanoscale vest on rookies or just give them a nade like normal?

>>181830373
kek

>>181830572
I give them a grenade so they can get some guaranteed kills/damage even with their shit accuracy.

Related question:
How does XP work exactly in the vanilla XCOM 2? Is it exclusively awarded to troopers for getting kills?

honestly wish skirmishers were just pure humans, i can't in good conscience use dirty advent scum as allies

>>181830572
only the strongest are meant to survive anon

>>181830572

nanoscale vests and gunshots dont get rookies promoted

>>181830681
>still allows tygan aboard the avenger

>>181831295
>allows

no choice to kick him out m8

>>181830572
Depends on their health, but I prefer nades.

>>181831295
Oh how I wish you could replace Tygan

Sometimes I wonder if grenade spam memesters actually play the game. You can't kill everything with grenades, you gotta shoot sometime.

>>181831673
Yeah, sometimes.

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>>181831650
>I could not have predicted this outcome, though it is intriguing.
>Facility Lead researched

>>181830650

They also get xp for finishing the mission.

>>181830650
YOu can get xp for other stuff too, like hacking, finishing the mission, none of the soldiers getting injured etc
If you mean whether you get xp for assisting in a kill, then no, only the one who finishes it gets xp as far as I know

>>181830681

So don't recruit them, just get your stalker wannabes and your wizards

>>181825158
>but Wonder Woman has an invisible jet, not a car.
How do you know? Have you seen her jet?

>>181831673

Sometimes I wonder if gun using memesters actually play the game. You can't kill everything with guns, you gotta slice sometime.

>>181830650
>Is it exclusively awarded to troopers for getting kills?

Kill assists are a thing as well, like every 3 kills another squad mate does on a mission a specialist will get 1 kill worth of experience.

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>>181832039

>>181832017
Sometimes I wonder if sword using memesters actually play the game. You can't kill everything with sword, you gotta BREAK LOS sometime.

>>181832191
mothafucka!

I've never seen a game more unstable than xcom 2 with mods installed.

>>181832435
Never played any of the russian wonders, did you?

>>181832435
Fallout and half life 2 are much worse

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>>181832435

>>181832435
how many mods you got on?

I finished xcom 1 vanilla ages ago.

I recently finished xcom 2 vanilla recently.

Recommend me what to do next:

Play xcom EW
Play xcom EW + LW
Play xcom 2 with DLC
Play xcom 2 with LW

>>181832435
Try skyrim with all the sex mods installed

>>181832941
Play xcom EW + LW
This.

Did you know that the pirated version will still play LW even though the stupid devs of LW said it wouldn't?

Good times.

>>181833031
>ALL the sex mods
Is that even possible?

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>>181832435
>be me
>install 50+ mods
>play on ironman
>absolutemadman.jpg

>>181833137
try 150

>>181833165
To be fait 150 is still 50+

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>>181810608
Do you also crosspost in /owg/
>>181806059
A combiniation of lewd armor mods and base
I love the pants but they come with a barely visible bit of a bush and I hate it. I prefer a clean shave

>>181833061

Speaking of pirate.

Can you pirate DLC and run it normally on a legit vanilla game?

The price for content ration in DLC for xcom 2 is ridiculous.

>>181833061

Do you still experience the regular story stuff from EW in LW ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCEclfLDYF0

>>181831673
Anarchist custom class is a lot of fun, it makes the gas and fire grenades/bombs useful, and make acid and frost grenades even more useful.