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/ss13g/ - Space Station 13

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Last time on /ss13g/ - spessmen on a spess station:
>WE BUILD
>B U I L D
>BUILD BUILD BUILD
>Local shitcurity not using the buddy system dies as a result instead of evacuating with his buddy
>Medshitters aren't using their medhuds or medical records to set MI failures to deceased
>Heads are not swiping red then swiping for an ERT in emergencies leaving station understaffed
>Will mommi's finally be able to recall and murder to protect their autism fort? Only pomf can decide
>With new shuttle code, shitters immediately used it to do a fly-by mass drivercanister bombing as part of their pirate "gimmick" when strafing the station with a spinal prism emitter array failed to force capitulation to their demands

>What is Space Station 13?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHH1vfY6HTA [Embed]
http://pastebin.com/VNcX2Quc

>New player guide
http://ss13.moe/wiki/index.php/The_Basics
http://ss13.moe/wiki/index.php/General_Help

>BYOND client
http://byond.com/download/build/LATEST/

>Pomf Serbian, main /vg/station server
byond://game.ss13.moe:7777

>Test server
byond://ss13.moe:1337

>Public server list
http://byond.com/games/exadv1/spacestation13

>How do I connect to the servers?
Hit the cogwheel in the upper right corner of the BYOND hub and pick "Open Location"

>/vg/station forum and logs
http://ss13.moe/forum/
http://game.ss13.moe/logs

>Map renders collection: updated sometimes
http://game.ss13.moe/minimaps/images/maps/

>Coderbus, here!
https://github.com/d3athrow/vgstation13
@rizon #coderbus @rizon #vgstation
https://discord.gg/fE3Ts8A

>Cryo Autism
http://pastebin.com/raw/YmAyagUa

>Round Stats
http://stats.ss13.moe/

>SS13 booru for all your SS13 images!
http://ss13.booru.org/

>How To Install BYOND: The Video Tutorial: The Movie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iWiZwv9f1o [Embed]

>Nostalgia
https://boards.fireden.net/vg/search/text/ss13g/
http://ss13.moe/index.php/bans

>OP Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/raw/z7czw5WQ
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BIRSD :DDDDDD
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What makes chloral hydrate -THE- premier offensive chem?
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>>181778923
It procs instantly instead of giving the target enough time to cry out that you just needled them up.
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>>181778971
On top of that, lethal or non lethal date rape drug. Perfect for removing a metagrudge or kidnapping your waifu.
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>>181778971
what if it took a couple seconds but made the victim's speech garbled?
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>>181778923
>Works one tick or so after applying instead of fifty seconds
>Give them a pill after the autoinjector to also kill them dead
>Can be made exclusively with a chem dispenser - no plasma or other stuff needed
The only reagent that sleeps faster than chloral is cyanide and cyanide is a bit limited.
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>>181779117
But getting a syringe of it, let alone an autoinjector, at roundstart and/or without reason is just powergay.
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>>181779287
All centcomm employees are trained to setup SME, hunt valids, Finish RND, and medbay chem. WE'RE NOT BAY!!!
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>>181779417
>>>/hippie/
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>>181779417
I don't see how some of that correlates with powergayming
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>>181779225
Zombie powder works faster if you can get carpotoxin, I've encountered people with macro'd 'HELP CHLORAL' shouts as well to get off a yell in the brief time before tricky pricky and sleeping
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>>181778971
it actually procs in few ticks, if someone has ready copy pasta or types fast they can scream
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>>181779417
All centcomm employees are trained for any and all eventualities.

Just not all of them are very good at it.
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>>181778971
>Not having a macro to scream about being chloralled before it ticks
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>people dying in maint all round
>no paramedic to be seen
>dude in the Oddy can't get maint
>nor can anyone else, because the HoP was fucking around all round doing god only knows what with her fucking admin-dog
I am half tempted to find out who bussed Ian into sapiency and make a fucking deadmin request.
YOU'RE PLAYING A FUCKING HEAD. YOU ARE AN IMPORTANT ROLE.
DO YOUR FUCKING JOB, YOU STUPID, PINK HAIRED WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORE
YOU'RE FUCKING SHIT
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>everyone starts yiffing out of the blue
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>>181780147
>having macros at all
Even ping macros are gay.
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>>181780147
>I learned to spot an injector on any sprite from any direction
>Already have the yell typed out along with my own injector pulled the moment I see theirs move into their hand
>It always ends up with my scream being heard and both of us passing out on the ground
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>>181780267
but
did you use the bell?
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>>181780267
>trusting souhei to be good
ayy lmao
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>all this furshit
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>>181780267
but
did you banrequest?
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>>181780516
YES I USED THE FUCKING BELL
AND NOBODY FUCKING CAME, BECAUSE YOU'RE A USELESS CUNT WHO GIVES NO SHITS ABOUT ANY OTHER PLAYER OR WHAT THEY NEED FROM YOU, EVEN THOUGH YOU'RE PLAYING ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT ROLES IN THE FUCKING GAME
FUCK OFF AND DIE, STOP PLAYING HERE YOU RETARDED PIECE OF SHIT, YOU ARE SHIT AND SO IS YOUR FUCKING FAGGY WAIFUSHIT
>>181780583
i never trusted him to be good
doesn't mean i'm not angry that he picks a head role that people need often and then fucks off to go play in space or whatever the fuck he was doing
fucking hell, waifushittery was a fucking mistake
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>>181780328
>>181780629
>latejoin
>Someone over comms asks something about still yiffing
>Picked a head role so I can't even just jump out an airlock
Command is suffering
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As a fellow shitter I kinda like Souhei desu senpaitachi
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>>181781180
Souhei is fun to play alongside because whatever's she's doing is usually rather fun or silly.
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>>181780773
I was probably dead then le mao
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>>181780336
You're no fun
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byond is older than pjb lol
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>>181782103
Breaks down less than him too.
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Post your favorite player that isn't you.
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souhei
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>>181783069
Xevonix/Yahir Kepplinger
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>>181783069
I miss JakJak.
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>>181783192

hi Xevonix/Yahir Kepplinger!
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>Next time on CM
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>>181784640
asking for a friend haha
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>>181784640
digitalis has evolved past the point of being a powergaming weirdo to being a living meme
>wtf I love digitalis now
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>>181784964
That's usually how it works isn't it? You start as a player, then level up to a shitter, then evolve into a powergamer, and then you make it or break it into meme status or get banned.
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>>181785992
Or you just never become anything, stuck as a literal who despite how far you have come.
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>>181786440
Hey that's me.
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>>181786440
nothing wrong with being a literal who. randomname is ultimately the shroud of the powerlevel, and the aegis of your reputation.
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>>181786714
Never said there was something wrong with it, just providing an alternative.
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>>181784640
*writes a 1,00 word response to a trader nerf on github*
nothing personal kid
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is he right?
have we all been playing ss13 wrong?
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>>181784640

honestly, i can see lifeweb with this kind of mechanic
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>>181787739
dont give randy ideas
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>Whole dept is cultists
>Concentrated autism results in me being forever alone
>RD calls me a cultist
O-Okay....
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XmDYJBZZdc
I believed in you, warden
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>>181787714
consider this with the fact that hippie, tg and such are well known and very popular
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>>181788170
;_;7

ride and die as men, Blast
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>>181781834
It's a game design issue to be fair but macros allow some things (like auto-scream or auto-wiz) to be completely broken.
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>>181787714
The only thing his private server has over others is there's no admin list (or rather, everyone is on it) where shitters go free just because they're friends with the hosts.
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chapelain jobbans for going braindead when?
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>Bring Gunnar back from xenobiology dead four times
Phew
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>>181788695

when you ahelp it instead of whining in the threads
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>>181788718
Every time I thought he would be fine I would always look over and see him dead in xenobio again
He's a real human bean
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DIGITAILS IS AT IT AGAIN!
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>Shot and killed their botanist buddy after wizard spawned in guns.
>Ban length: PERMANENT
So wait, when everyone gets guns you aren't allowed to use them?
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>>181788941
gas it with a plasma fire
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I feel horrible whenever I get converted to cult because I'm so bad at it and because I don't like playing cult
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>>181789142
no, rules still remain, though making it permanent is a stretch
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>>181789142
Ignoring the fact that the perma is because he logged out in the middle of questioning, you can become antag if a wizard summons guns, but him summoning guns doesn't make you an antag, I think everyone has a 35% chance of being an antag on every summon cast
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>>181788941
Why are you posting this again only an hour after the first
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>>181789142
You're only allowed to use them indiscriminately if you get the message YOU ARE A SURVIVOR in your chat window. Not everyone who gets the guns gets survivor status.
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>>181789170
You can always ask for a lesson. Might make you like the mode more too.
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>>181789458
Yeah I think I will sometime, I hadn't been converted in a while so I haven't thought about it
I've been cult plenty of times across the years and know the role pretty well but
Using the tome and words is just not something I like doing
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>>181789170
At least you didn't self request a cult ban, thereby making it that much harder for cult to win.
Fuck you Valkyrie.
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>>181789170
I feel like I'd enjoy the round if I actually knew how to play it.
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Just - just lemme hit y'all with an idea, alright? Just three words, even. Not that long at all.

You ready? Foundation Station 13.
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>>181790954
You can ahelp when kavlax is adminned for a cult lesen.
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>>181787714
oh great more alarmists. for every sarcalogo trying to push us back to our "former glory", we get a poster like the one You're posting that tells us we need to "progress forward", without adressing any of the issues he's oh so adamant about. spess is fun as it is now, sure it has problems, it always did have problems and will continue to have problems for a while. like do this excercise with me: think about those things that you dislike most about spess. now look at it, can you fix it? yes, no? have you tried to? is the rest of the playerbase ok with it? are you being reasonable? can you change your outlook and try to understand why it is the way it is and accept it?
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>>181789142
It's about logging out without being possible to contact. The forum appeal in that case is basically routine.
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Top secret cult tips
1. just keep cult disabled
2. seriously just never enable it
3. if you have the misfortune of being converted, refuse a tome and go kill sec.
4. show up for summoning, turn on disarm intent, and stand still
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>>181791101
SCPs already exist
If it's extended and the right mins are on, try praying for one, don't be an idiot about it though
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>>181792005
this. we need more of this
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Was messing around in toxins on the test server trying to grasp the basics of bombs (and made some surprisingly decent ones). According to the wiki, the whole idea is the higher the temperature of the plasma, and the colder the temperature of the oxygen, the larger the explosion right? Or is it more complicated? I know pressure factors somewhere in there but I honestly don't know how.
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>>181792005
I've been playing for years and I still don't know how cult works apart from 'drag person over convert rune' and 'listen to what others cultists say over purple text'
I do my job, help stun/converting and show up when it's summon time, but that's it.
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>>181791101
SCP 093 when
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>>181787714
>everyone sucks but me
I think he's just struggling to rationalize the notion that he might not actually like the game. You see this same kind of criticism thrown at fighting games all the time.
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>>181792510
it is a bit more complicated

plasma and oxygen react when the resulting mixture is above 100 degree Celsius (pretty sure it's 100, might be wrong)
the size of the reaction is determined by the amount of mols that are in a ratio of 1:2 plasma:oxygen

so if you have a tank of 1013 kpa plasma that is a gorillion degrees and a tank of oxygen that is - gorillion degrees the bomb will be shit
the molar ratio will be way out of wack (tons of oxygen mols, barely any plasma mols) and the bomb might just be a dud

if you don't understand what mols are, go watch some videos on youtube on PV=NRT
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>>181777717
>With new shuttle code, shitters immediately used it to do a fly-by mass drivercanister bombing as part of their pirate "gimmick" when strafing the station with a spinal prism emitter array failed to force capitulation to their demands


I haven't played SS13 in a couple of day, what's this new shuttle code is about?
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>>181793627
whoops I left my shitposting name on
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>>181782461
You have no idea how much byond breaks down then
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>>181795868
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>>181795868
>>181796207
I've never liked these, they're a reddit meme so stale they're practically moldy
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Hello I'm coding HRT for chemistry, just try and stop me
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>>181796414
It's more facebook than reddit.
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>>181797042
Have a (You)
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>>181792180
Top secret HoS tips I haven't seen posted before
1. stay in medbay while your officers are cloned
2. antags, shitters, and powergamers are listening to 135.9, especially the dangerous ones
3. be nice to robotics and science in general
4. the unknown in an atmos suit that keeps and raping your officers in space probably has a GPS in their internals box
5. the captain is an antag hunter or an unrobust newfag. the HoP is a shitter 100% of the time. Take charge.
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>arm borer
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>roboticist
>no miners at round start, wonderful
>build odysseus for medbay, they dont even want it
>no one needs borging
>borg shows up, giving my existence purpose both with materials and in need of upgrades
>put together the biggest, stompiest durand, had to nigger into the HoP office to get the weapons access but i did it, im ready for the apocalypse
>Of course i get the succ in the middle of putting together a ripley for the new mining crew
>the changeling doesnt even take my durand now that he has my DNA

I feel insulted
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>>181785992
Pretty much, I became a meme myself
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>Get told someone is a Changeling
>Can't do shit because on the off chance they're not you'll get banned
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>>181798558
>leg borer
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>>181798570
blame the AI. If i took it for a spin ai would have bolted the doors and made it a total mess to use. Cucked by the robots again
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>>181798570
medbay was all lings, it wasn't your fault
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>>181798092
wew, these just get better and better
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>>181798570
>Try to jump in it once I realize science has pretty much disappeared
>DNA locked
I tried man, but all you had to do was make some damn Ripleys!
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>Clown was a changeling
>all this time if it wasn't for the HONK! law he would have got away with this and use the AI for Antimov funfest
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>tfw you avoid assassination by changing your species
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>>181798798
Were you the geneticist? Isaac didn't want to ruin your fun I think and you were having fun being autistic so I ignored you since you were ignoring me.
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So what was your first ban for?
I got banned because, as sec, we began hunting down people infected with the furry virus on the captain's orders, after the captain infected them himself and gave vaccines to sec. We shot them with shotguns and toastered two borgs which were interfering with our attempts.

Also, can anyone post the gif of the escape shuttle filled with people infected with a clown/plasma/seizure virus, which go up in flames?
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>>181798749
I wanted to honk more than I wanted to antag 2bh, especially after the admins granted me the bwoink shoes.
I basically played vultureling and preyed on suicides because I royally fucked up my only actual attempt to capture and succ somebody.
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>>181798862
Thank you for letting me have my autistic fun
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>>181798901
I read WGW over 10 radios
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>>181798901
N E V E R B A N N E D
WHO UP
as long as we don't count bans reversed one hour later by the banning admin
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>>181798970
Who /onlywarnings/ here?
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>>181798957
I was so disappointed when I found out I couldn't stick a green radio in a room with ten buttbotts and spam the common station radio.
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>>181798901
I think it was for polyaciding a greytider in chem. I've really mellowed out.
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>watch a ling kill the HoP in front of my very eyes and space the body
>try to chase down the ling, lag hits me like a ton of bricks, several seconds pass and I'm somewhere unfamiliar, HoP and killer are gone from view
>go to drain my sorrows in the bar
>see the bartender's shotgun with beanbags lying around so I bag it and head to escape to search for any bodies in the outskirts of the station
>officer asks me to comply to a code green search before I can reach the airlock, can't decline it lest I spark a manhunt, I know I have the shotgun in my bag so I'm fucked
>get perma'd
>break out of perma like some prehistoric cave freak
>manage to rack off the EDDY, preventing it from cuffing me, so it just tases me to infinitum ala neverending taser turret
>have the AI deactivate the EDDY and I use it to open all the doors in perma and loot all the shit before riding off in the pod
the great escape
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>>181799274
>perma'd for having beanbag shotty on code green
I've never been caught by security with contraband as nonantag, does stuff like this happen often?
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>>181799404
It was lings and we were shifting bodies and outfits like a motherfucker. Assistant with a gun? If the shoe fits...
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How the fuck do you load up the odysseus with ammo and reagents anyways? I was toying with the thing in an earlier round and i feel retarded not being able to get it. Its especially annoying to accidentally splash shit with Chloral hydrate since thats an actual concoction
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>digitalis
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>>181799865
Click syringes with the syringe gun
Click beakers with the syringe gun
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>>181799975
That doesnt work, unless you need to do some extra step with the syringe gun after it pops out of the fabricator
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>>181800232
They mean while you're piloting the mech.
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>>181799865
>that feel when you fill the Odysseus with all the healing chems you can think of
>medbay still doesnt use it
>>181800232
>put on mech
>click syringes to load
>switch syringe gun to analyze mode and click beamer
>can now synthesize that chem
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>>181800232
The mech syringe gun while you're piloting

>>181800396
You need to spend some one on one time to teach someone.
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>>181798901
>hop, lowish pop, no sec or captain
>traitors, reports of possible changeling
>scientist asks for RD promotion so he can modify laws
>tell him sure, but not to modify laws unless I am there
>AI starts acting weird to specifically
>go to AI upload and find the RD there uploading laws, contrary to our agreement
>proceed to arrest him very badly, and demote him to assistant

got a week head and sec ban for that, despite having no previous shitcurity incidents
it turned out the AI was acting weird because of an Ion law, and the scientist was not a changeling
the banning admin was ghlor who is a literal greytiding hypershitter who starts shit with sec and lies about it in ahelps
was total bullshit in retrospect
all ghlor notes and bans should be pardoned
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Thanks wizman.
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>>181799404
Depends. I've seen seen security let the LING get off with a warning for having stun gloves.

Not like it mattered this round though, security was fucking awful.
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>>181800396
oddyseus's are pretty gay. there's no reason firing a syringe gun at somebody should ever be socially acceptable and not warranting a beat down. every non-antag that gets into an oddyseus usually ends up in me being dead, or spending over half the round in the oddyseus's perma chamber.
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>>181800768
The things got a tank on its back for actually healing people. The syringe guns are for self defense.

Or you know, offense.
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>>181800592
Even if he was resetting the laws, he still should've had you there, as per your agreement.
Should've brought it to the forums, unless you outright killed the guy, because it just sounds like you did what you told him you'd do.
I'd say to still bring it up in player feedback if you got a note from it. Either your own or his?
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>>181800768

I used to think Oddysseus were fucking bullshit until i made one myself

best thing to use as antagonist if you know what to do
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>>181800768
I've saved people with it, having the ability to synth any chem is great for healing, and I often use the sleeper beds to let me know what chems to shoot them with. Just having dex+ in it makes it twice as useful.
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>>181800905
>Should've brought it to the forums
this was like 18 months ago a year ago.
I wasn't salty at all at the scientist, only at ghlor
towards the end of the boinks, Pain jumped on, heard the story from ghlor, and told me he agreed with ghlor
I figured that Pain would just kabash it if I posted the story on the forums so I didn't bother
now that it's on my record 5ever I wish I had

I was very tempted to ban request Ghlor when I had clear evidence and an admin witness of him lying in ahelps around 6 weeks ago ago
but I don't want to be a know as ban request faggot that stirs up server drama
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>>181798092
>
>4. the unknown in an atmos suit that keeps and raping your officers in space probably has a GPS in their internals box

oh yeah once when felicity was doing that shit I stole a GPS from science and was watching her movements. I completely forgot to tell sec about it though
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>warn people about Lord Singuloth
>they walk right into it

It's tough being a borg.
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>FUCK-BOT [Common] (Cyborg) states, "4. Souhei is not to be listened to or respected"
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>>181804767
Fun fact: Me and the AI were operating on that Law all round. Somebody just made it official.
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>>181804816
I think everybody operates on that law every round he's in.
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http://ss13.moe/index.php/poll/119
Pain's made a new poll (only relevant for discord)
I voted no because it will cause rise of a new discord server, one that allows banned people.
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>>181806973
Who cares if someone gets banned on the game but causes no problems on discord then who gives a fuck
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>>181790039
I used to like Valkyrie but that seems really shitty. Would rather die than give cult a slightly higher chance of winning just by acting like normal crew and going to the summoning at round end.
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>>181806973
Vote yes

>all banned shitters forced to leave
>their friends make a new discord
>almost all discord shitters now are posting on their discord offshoots rather than ours
>kolith is banned from discord

vote yay
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>>181807340
Hi jakmak.
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>>181783069
People I like: Riccardo and Frank White.

People I dislike: That Indian motherfucker that works Medicine just to waste monkeys and randomly stab people 4no raisin.
The Clown, whenever I'm not the Mime.
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>>181806973

>voting no

don't be a pessimist, anon. if you ban people from the discord, some will indeed do a new one, but in the end pain will have the laugh of that because you can't just change to a new discord like that, you need the headmins in.
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>>181783069
Antonio Betulla
Razz Vozz
Riccardo Benzoni
Tahki
Anyone who can do botany
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>That clown wasn't even an antag
Jesus was that walking the line.
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Post your metagrudges

No reason in particular
that clown banned when
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Is there any better HoS than Felicity?
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I can't decide if that Clown was hilarious or a degenerate
So he was a good Clown
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>>181807753
>>181808023
does Riccardo a good?
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>>181807753
>and Frank White
is this a clueless newfag over-zealously self-shilling, or tricky memeter false flaging as a self-shill
this player is by all accounts mediocre, and I have seen like a dozen positive posts about them this week
that's more than many excellent players get in a year
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>>181808096
Not even an antag, ban.
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>>181808345
Riccardo's an alright. He's not perfect but he's a nice guy.
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>>181808241
The bananas were kind of funny, but electrifying the doors wasn't. That alone is worth at least a note.
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>>181808023
good taste
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Best security team?
For me it needs Frank White as HoS and Riccardo officer
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>>181808607
What makes you think that was the clown instead of the traitor AI?
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>>181808984
Hell I don't know, could it have been all the bananas?
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>>181808845
I don't like Frank in command
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I like Frank, he has never done wrong by me.
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>>181807753
>>181808845
>>181810270
t. Frank
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Frank doesn't beat me when I'm Clown so I'm cool with him
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Frank let my murderer go after he ate my brain, but it was because he's a passive and gentle man
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>>181808372
>is this a clueless newfag over-zealously self-shilling,
No man, I'm genuinly saying that Frank White is the best HoS I've seen, because the only HoS I can compere too are either Hitler or Rin.
Whenever I play Sec or HoP and they are HoS, I know that I have a HoS that wont randomly run off and die in space.
And that's more then half of what the average HoS does. It's refreshing to have a Head you can somewhat rely on.
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>>181806973
People already have other discords for their friends, idiot. By voting no you aren't stopping anything.
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>>181810789

This, he is a really good Head who isn't on the track to get banned. People should look to him to see how to play a head role.
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I want to kick Frank in the chest.
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>get arrested as RD by shitcurity
>break out
>print 10000 guns
>murder the entirety of security and reassign all my scientists as the station's new security guards

Why is RD the best head? You have full jurisdiction to powergame as much as you'd like and get away with it.
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>>181811620
All of the power, none of the accountability
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>>181807340
Koliths not banned though
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>>181808845
HoS: Frank
Warden: Frank
Officer: Riccardo
Detective: Riccardo
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>>181812239
Yep, RD can get away with enormous amounts of shit that anyone else would get lynched for. Unlike the other heads of staff, nobody actually expects you to do anything (when someone else is doing R&D) so you're free to do whatever you'd like.

It's the comfiest job on the station and the fact that you can ERP with the AI while having a belt full of power tools and a backpack filled with a small armory without getting any shit from admins or the captain is just the cherry on the cake.
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http://ss13.moe/forum/viewtopic.php?f=34&p=20510&sid=8c7c50934c8be39209243c4097d4cd67
SAWBONES ON SUICIDE WATCH
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>>181813167
>Gary and Zen (friends of sawbones) post memes to derail the thread

Happens literally everytime sawbones gets negative feedback, isn't it funny haha?? H-how weird...
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>>181813167
Id personally like to jakmak get a permaban.
Everyone already knows he's a huge shitter, and his fetishtic torture antag makes him a sick shitter on top of it.
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>read thread
>muh playing cult is hard
or
>how do I play cult after year of playing spessman
Cult is one of the easiest antag roles to play and really easy to understand if you want
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>>181813573
Adminning sawbones was a mistake
Adminning gary was a mistake
The metaclub server was a mistake
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>>181814180
He should have been banned long ago when he was told to stop breaking into departments at round start yet he carried on doing it. He has super severe autism and it's frustrating as fuck.
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Post valid IC murder reasons
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>sawbones bans a guy after waiting around doing nothing for 10 minutes
>kolith instantly pings them on discord to joke to them
>kolith wasn't even in game during this time

explain this one to me, I don't understand it
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>>181814526
>tell Isaac to stop being a shitter
>he whines about how he can't help it due to autism
Since when are grown men allowed to use autism as an excuse to get out of trouble?
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>>181814801
Kolith said he connects to the server via the banpage so he probably keeps it open 24/7 and refreshs it all the time.
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>>181814912
>Since when are grown men allowed to use autism as an excuse to get out of trouble?

In the US of A it's not unusual to live off autism bux
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>>181814984
that doesn't excuse you from being a huge retard online though
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>>181790039
>>181807126
I'm sorry man, but I just really don't enjoy cult. For what it's worth, I never reveal the existence of the cult or identity of the converter after the failed convert and act as if I have no memory of it.
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>>181815153
Oh fuck off, it just shows that you're okay with ruining a bunch of a round because you're selfish and can't follow some simple instructions.
>don't get caught
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>>181815153
how do you not enjoy cult? If you aren't even given a book you genuinely don't have to do anything because you can't. Just keep doing whatever you were doing before until you're called upon at the end and maybe support other cultists if they're being questioned about shit near you.
It's so easy, if you don't want to be roundstart cult then TURN IT OFF
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>>181814180
He's really creeping me out with the things I see him PMing people about.
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>>181815347
>how do you not enjoy cult? If you aren't even given a book you genuinely don't have to do anything because you can't

This, don't be a fucking idiot >>181815153
. All you have to do is keep doing whatever you were doing and later show up to the summoning. And don't say "B-BUT I WAS BUILDING" or whatever you do, same shit happens all the time when station gets bombed and people call the shuttle.
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All self requested cult bans need to be taken off or made so people who are cult banned get instantly deleted when they get converted.
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>>181815614
they get Sleep'd for 5 minutes.

You could just throw them on a sacrifice rune for good ol instagibbing
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>>181815654
>you still have to dispose their body
>sac leaves gibs
no thanks
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>>181814942
I just checked the logs and this doesn't make sense as a narrative

>Kolith claims he only saw the ban as he opened the ban page to log in
>Checked the time of his discord message
>Checked server logs for that day
>He didn't log in anywhere near the time he sent the message
Meaning he has to be lying about turning on the ban page to connect, if he was going to log in why didn't he? It'd be hard to believe that he chose not to log in because he saw jakmak got banned, he hates jakmak and he'd probably want to play even more.

So how did he really find out about the ban? Considering it was near instant the only way to know would be zealotron himself telling him. Zealotron has a habit of telling people about admin only things, many #adminbus discussions have been leaked because of him.

This is the last message zealotron sends issac
[16:14:47]ADMIN: PM: Zealotron/(Sawbones)->Isaac the Slaver/(Isaac Lifof): you have a history of breaking into everything and having dumb things happen because of it, because of you really
Issac sends several messages after this, zealotron has no response until he does this
[16:16:06]ADMIN: zealotron has banned isaactheslaver.
Kolith's message was sent at the 17th minute, meaning he had at most 1minute and 53 seconds to turn on the ban page, notice the ban, find jakmak's discord and message him.
That's highly freakin' unlikely
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>>181814942
Do you realize how stupid that sounds? The odds of him refreshing the ban page during that minute is fucking minuscule.

It is obvious that Sawbones told him.
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>>181815721
finding his discord isn't hard at all, he probably already knew it.
Plus, coincidences happen and they happen a lot.
>>181815751
why would sawbones bother to lie about telling kolith about it
why would he even both doing it
he knows kolith is a huge asshole to people for no reason and he doesn't want to fuel that

my only wonder in this is why anyone actually wants to be friends with kolith and why people don't just stop talking to him, all he does is cause drama by being overly aggressive with whoever he can
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>>181815614
There really needs to be a better solution than this. same for silicon bans and the autoborger.
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>>181815614
>>181815654
>not getting an artificer to build a closed-off room
>not labeling it "Hall of Shame"
>not dumping the self cult ban request shitters there with only their underwear on
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>>181815721


>During this time too zealotron is ignoring other things
Like here's an admin investigation he just doesn't respond to for a while. He's distracted by issac's issue? Unlikely, they aren't talking that much and he doesn't even respond until way after he banned issac. who was he talking to that distracted him during that time? Kolith?
[16:10:49]ADMIN: PM: Xenosandbox the Second/(Camden Baker)->Zealotron/(Sawbones): Fire axe was there for me to take, mop does no damage and I used it to beat off shitters and once on accident on a borg I was tying to head pat, and Atmos was wide open and I was going to do a cowboy janitor gimmick witht he cowboy outfit i had along with the flare gun.
[16:19:47]ADMIN: PM: Zealotron/(Sawbones)->Xenosandbox the Second/(Camden Baker): oh sorry I was dealing with something else, yeah you kinda dug your own grave there
Nearly 4 minutes since he banned issac, a full 9 minutes after the first message. What were those 4 minutes doing? Telling kolith? It's a possibility..
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>>181815871
This coincidence is so immensely improbable that it is ridiculous to believe that over sawbones just telling him.
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>>181815751

You underestimate kolith, he probably has a script that tells him when a new ban appears, the same way he tracks certain players on the discord.
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>>181815937
Nah. Sawbones told him. Don't be dumb.
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>>181815871
He doesn't connect though, he doesn't connect at all during that time period. So he cannot have opened the ban page to connect to the server, because he didn't freakin' connect. LOGS SHOW THIS
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Yes Sawbones leaks stuff to his buddies all the time. Nothing against the rules about that, grow up.
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>>181807126
>waifu that uses their static name as their name for literally everything is a self-absorbed cunt
Who would have guessed?
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>>181816051
t. One of Sawbones lackeys
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>>181816051
>Yes Sawbones leaks stuff to his buddies all the time.
Gay desu
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>>181816050
MAYBE HE KEEPS THE BAN PAGE OPEN 24/7 BECAUSE THATS HOW HE CONNECTS TO THE SERVER AND JUST CONSTANTLY REFRESHS IT LIKE A SAD ACT
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>>181816207
So he just refreshes the ban page constantly?

Why are you arguing this, what is the chance that he refreshes during the 1 minute has has, sees a new ban and still has time to message jakmak before the 18th minute?

It's so unlikely, I'd buy it if he messaged him 15 minutes later, but 1.5 minutes later??
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Isaac's post reeks of desperation. He even leaves out that the mech he hijacked was a gygax lol
His feedback isn't even worth it's weight in his salt
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>>181814180
Oh wow, fuck him for not just murderboning. Same old shit different day is so great
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>>181816342
thats because it is digital and thus weightless, so of course it isn't worth it's weight in salt. as it's weight in salt would be 0 salt :) aka worthless :)
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What do I tell sawbones to do next?

t. kolith
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>>181816281
its called
a coincidence
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>>181814552
The clown steals your ID and no one is helping.
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>>181816468
tell him to stop buying 2 in 1 showergel/shampoo products and just get one of each kind because it's better that way
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>>181816529
People that actually do that shit don't deserve to live.
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>>181815153
Dude, it's a simple thing. If you literally cannot handle bottom barrel antag actions such as supplying your team, not getting caught with gear, not ratting people out, not being able to do basic sabotage/steal/kidnap/impersonate tasks then just don't die, don't get busted and show up for narnar time to already be better than 200% of existing cultists.

>>181815558
That's why we use summon cultist runes now and ahelp people that fuck off from there.
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>>181816429
He still murderbones you ass, but now he tortures one or two people for hours while jerking off to it before he does.
He still does his shitter recall spam too,
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>>181816521
It is insanely improbable and a hundred times more likely that sawboner told him
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>>181816521
*metagrudges the same guy for months and months*
woops, just a coincidence that I kept non-antag annoying and ruining the round of the same guy
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>>181816613
insanely improbable things happen every day everywhere all over the world, calm your fucking autism
>>181816628
you calm down
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>>181816579
Then gatheru p your friends and go BUILD a new station without isaac and his faggy head id.
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>>181816659
Yeah but sawbones has a habit of leaking admin stuff to his pals/the thread
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>>181816753
[citation needed]
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Who are the cutest players on the serb? Which are marriage material?
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>>181816785
The time him and like 6 others in an actual metaclub were banned for metagaming in discord
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>>181816827
This was almost two years ago, what's the problem again? Probe metagamed before he became admin, and he was headmin.
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>>181816785
When mrpain unbanned solarius only the admins knew. Hours later it was posted to the thread the logs of it. Kolith posted the same logs to discord too. Zealotron told kolith who leaked it to everyone.
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>>181816803

>there is someone on the server I want to get to know better
>one of the cutest and nicest people I have ever met
>too afraid to say it

I wish I knew where to even start.
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>>181816998
Back off, they're mine already.
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>>181816998
Man up faget
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>>181815347
>>181815558
>>181816578
Obviously I didn't have cult enabled. And yes, of course I could just go back to doing whatever I was doing, but what's the point when you're inevitably gonna get pulled away to get turned into a shitty fucking Harvester. And if all the other cultists are dead and I'm just doing nothing, I'm being just as much of a shitter to them anyway.

This is of course dyed by personal opinion, and I'm not gonna try and argue my dislike of cult is a rational one, but there's just absolutely nothing about the game mode that I enjoy.

>>181815614
>>181815696
It should be something that leaves no evidence, like being ashed or just deleted. Possibly have it count towards the convert goal too.
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>>181817297
Look, I'd like you to at least be able to help but getting a cult ban so you wont even be able to help with the narnar call is fucking bullshit. It's a fucking game mode, leave the server if you don't want to play.
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>>181817297
Maybe you ARE a self-absorbed shitter then, Valkyrie.
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>>181817297
>but what's the point when you're inevitably gonna get pulled away to get turned into a shitty fucking Harvester
What's the point when I get murderboned by a traitor?
What's the point when I'm inevitably going to get succ'd by ling?
What's the point when the nuke ops blow up the station?

And so on. There is no difference. If the antags want to end your round, they will. Grow up.
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>>181817459
>>181817567
>>181817393
Well I'm not gonna deny it's selfish, aye, I deserve all the shit you're throwing here, but I really just want nothing to do with cult.
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>>181817783
Just leave the server, you cunt, I really want nothing to do with you.
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>>181817939

fuck off with your aussie tier attitude, they can have an opinion.
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>>181816862
>No proofs
Cool
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>>181817783
Think about it this way. If you get culted, that means you can just fuck off and resume doing your thing until it's nar-nar time.

If you can't be culted, then you're dead. Simple. Don't you think that's better than being removed from the round permanently in the other gamemodes, where you don't get to live?
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Souhei is white and based
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Change cult runes
>Resurrect rune checks for a resurrect counter to use for resurrecting if it can't find a valid non-cult body near it
>Sacrifice rune now adds one global Resurrect counter to the cult so they don't need a second body for that
>Converting someone who's cultbanned also gibs them and adds a Resurrect counter
As it is right now, trying to convert someone who's cultbanned just puts you in a much worse position than you were previously and you get nothing to show for it.
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>>181818074
At least if I'm dead I can go do pAI antics or something instead.
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>>181818295
>As it is right now, trying to convert someone who's cultbanned just puts you in a much worse position

you have five minutes to dispose of them shit ain't hard bud.
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>>181816998
Tell us about them :3
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>>181818485
That doesn't disagree with what I said
Even then, it very much depends on your role, your location, and the server pop
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>>181818429
You're saying you prefer to be a talking box over resuming whatever so interesting you were doing as a perfectly capable and alive crew member, with a cult icon over their head. You make zero sense.
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>>181818559
>in a much worse position

it really doesn't. And if you want something out of a cult banned dude, just draw up a sacrifice rune. You have FIVE minutes to do it. You get all their shit too.
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>>181818623
five minutes on their end, it might only be seconds until someone walks in and you're standing over all these gibs
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>>181818623
Sacrifice requires two people you STUPID IDIOT
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>>181818295
resurrect doesn't even just revive people, it also lets ghosts possess them for whatever fucking reason
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>>181818623
You get nothing from Sacrifice. You have a CHANCE to get a RANDOM word and it's not guaranteed that you don't already have it (for reference, you should be able to find all words in a few minutes if you have enough to draw either Sacrifice or Convert). In exchange for that random word, the room is covered in gibs.
>>181818701
Not if the guy is dead and not the Sacrifice objective target.
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>complaining about people not wanting to play cult
>not wondering why these people dont want to play cult

the cult is really unfun for anyone that is a cultist without a book, is security without a chaplain, is chaplain without security, or literally anyone without security.
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>>181818701
so get somebody else. or just kill them. It's really not a huge disadvantage and >>181818685 if you're in a place where you're about to get walked in on you'd be fucked whether you're sacrificing, converting, or ERPing with someone.

Honestly as long as you're not fucking retarded you should have no problems easily dealing with somebody who's cultbanned. Just stop being a fucking retardor really I'm betting this has never even happened to you and get good.
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>>181819035
Considering the strengths of the Stun talisman and the speed of conversion, what you just said is retarded.
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>>181819006
>tfw you want to try a fun chaplain gimmick but IT'S CULT
Makes me want to off myself everytime.
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>>181819035
I can stealth convert people in the open very easily, and someone being cult banned and just falling asleep on me fucks it up because then I have a body I can't just get rid of without probably dragging it past a tonne of people.
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>>181819035
Last time someone failed to convert me, they just stuck me in an O2 closet in the prinary hallway and were perfectly fine.
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>>181819193
just choke them to death and leave them dumby. What the hell is "in the open" to you anyway?

>>181819154
Oh do explain
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>>181819298
Yeah. Last time someone failed to convert me they fucked around with my body for three minutes in the chapel and just ended up cutting my head off. Like these people have probably either never had this happen to them, or have been so brash and risky in how they try to convert someone they put themselves at a huge risk without a backup plan in case you're cultbanned. Then they have no idea how to dispose of you in five minutes. This is ss13, you should know how to fucking kill someone and dispose of the body in two.
>>
what's with the new shuttle code?
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>>181819341
i've set up cult conversion in the lobby of medbay and outside r&d and only been caught when someone cult banned fell asleep on me.
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>>181818295
This sounds reasonable.
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>>181818295
I'm doing this right now.
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>>181819931
Can you also add some kind of message when you use a stun talisman on the person that tells you that they are an immature child who can't handle cult?
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>>181819341
Say you're an assistant. As far as cult goes, assistant is a pretty good role due to maint access and being expected to just fuck around. Stun talismans stun, but more importantly due to the lower duration, they silence. The silence lasts long enough to:
>run a bit into maint, scribe Convert, convert them, and delete Convert.
>run even further into maint to a prepared room and convert them.
>run from the maint door in Box escape to the maint door in the engineering hallway.
Having a prepared maint room means having runes sec can stumble upon by just walking through maint and checking rooms. The runes you draw hold your DNA. This is the only reason you need not to have a conversion room somewhere sec can find it. The strength of stun talisman conversion IS the ability to draw convert, convert, and delete convert because after that, there's nothing visible to anyone that can link cult and you.
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>>181820056
No. I'm making it like what was written in that post.The person getting converted gets deleted, not gibbed.
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>>181818164
go back to paradox general
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>>181819817
you honestly deserved it. Not just for the brazen conversions, but because you got fucking caught because of a cultbanned dude in fucking medbay. How does that even happen?

>>181820128
If you hide a rune well enough it is very unlikely security will ever find it. Not only that, but if you're trying to stun-draw-convert somebody in a place where you can't deal with them in the next five minutes if they're cultbanned, then you've done something wrong.
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This is your "Head of Security". Say something nice or degenerate about her.
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>>181821394
She could hide in maint darkness and not be noticed, great for stalking people.
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>>181821370
>stealth converting anyone who comes in to medbay before the doctors get to them
>one of them gets sleeped
>non cult doctor comes along and takes them
>"why wont they wake up"
>"CULT"
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>>181821450
okay yeah you deserved that 100%

it was kind of clever though. Where was the rune?
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>>181821516
it's a secret. If everyone knows about the method it'll be useless.
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>>181821625
I bet you put it under the roller bed didn't you. Or the table and tabled people to convert them. I hope it's not something stupid like using those little patient rooms.
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>>181813167
>http://ss13.moe/forum/viewtopic.php?f=34&p=20510&sid=8c7c50934c8be39209243c4097d4cd67
>The requested topic does not exist.
SO THIS IS THE POWER OF THE METACLUB
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>>181821757
>doing it inside medbay
thats dumb, i do it in the hallways
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>>181821757
On an unrelated note, what is the use of those rooms, i know they are supposed to hold patients or something, but no one ever uses them
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>>181821789
kolith or someone else deleted his post
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>>181821839
braindead people probably
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>>181821789
http://ss13.moe/forum/viewtopic.php?f=34&p=20511#p20511
Gary the Hot Soup's post was deleted for being a picture of a dog, it wasn't on topic at all
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>>181821839
put braindeads in it, or go afk in it.
also you can use it as a quaratine for virus people because you can lock them in
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>>181818295
https://github.com/vgstation-coders/vgstation13/pull/15348
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>>181818295
>>181822325

>Converting someone who's cultbanned also gibs them and adds a Resurrect counter
>mfw

THANK YOU! I can finally rest in peace knowing i won't have to deal with more cult-banned autists
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>mechanic can't scan telecom relay and other equipment
FIX IT FIX IT FIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIX ITTTTTTTTTTTTTTT
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>The airlock opens as you’re walking behind hydroponics revealing a familiar soul.
>”Hey hun, anything I can help you with?” she asks as her eyes pierce deep into yours, your body falling limp.
>You wake bucklecuffed to a chair in a candlelit room hidden deep in maintenance. A playful giggle rings out as you try to get help on the radio only to notice your headset is missing.
>”So what do you think I brought you here, sweetie?” the pink haired gardener asks as she takes a seat on your lap, pushing an intoxicating moonflower against your nose.
>You whine in protest as she pulls it away into her own mouth, chewing it a little before leaning in for a kiss.
>Her body grinds against your lap as she shares the moonflower with you, your vision spiraling between her strawberry smelling hair, the moonflower kiss, and the motion of her against your body.
>Stars appear in your vision as your entire body goes rigid in climax, her overpowering aura driving you over the edge in seconds.
>At a yank of your hair your throat is exposed to the gardener, her lips find their way to it as her fangs plunge deep inside.
>Never spilling a drop of blood, the gardener dismounts her prey spent of all its precious fluids.
>She adjusts her disheveled clothes as she leaves, her shapely hips swaying hypnotically back and forth as she exits through the hidden doorway.
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>>181823020
>machines that require uranium, gold, silver and diamond can\t be made out of meta, glass and plastic
really makes you think
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>>181824315
BUT MECHANIC PRINTER ACCEPTS GOLD SILVER URANIUM AND DIAMOND YOU SHITTER
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>181824458
>implying you will ever get them
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>>181823616
Bunch of grammatical errors, out of character interactions.
3/10 Apply yourself.
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>>181824527
stop giving him attention
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>>181824517
give me your ckey so I can fill your office with mass produced viscerators
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>>181821394
She's very fluffy!
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>>181824813
Avadanatinde
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District 9 is a movie about vox landing on earth.

Watch it!
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>>181825736
theyre not chickens theyre shrimp
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>>181825853
fookin prawns
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>>181818586
You are trying to talk sense into a literal tranny
He needs a shock to the brain
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>>181808021
>because you can't just change to a new discord like that, you need the headmins in.

Why?
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>>181826140
because IT'S CULT can happen
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>>181823616

maybe if you weren't so much of a bitch i would give a shit about reading your shitty greentext, avada
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>>181826140
they're just another person being dumb
no one is going to go make a new discord if they haven't done so already just because nevill/carsh/rin/sue aren't allowed to post there any more

>>181826213
Pain already said "who cares about people setting up their own discords?" lol
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>>181826213
So? A headmin can't police your fucking friends. If i want to hang out with friends in a non-official SS13 discord, i sure as hell am not going to invite Pain to babysit us just to make sure we're being friends in the administration-approved way.
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>>181825736
I personally liked the 30 minute long scene where the MC fucked an alien and became pregnant
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Oh, and to address the "new" concern that was raised, about people making new discords to play games with each other....

So what?

So fucking what?

Why should we give a shit?

WHY is this a problem? Are people meta communicating round sensitive information in these channels? Is there another, particular reason or problem that I, or any other admin, should be aware of?

I'll be honest with you, when people are meta communicating, it's OBVIOUS. Glaringly OBVIOUS. And when we arent sure, there are all kinds of neat checks and tests we can do to determine if it really is meta communicating or not, which the admins are pretty much required to do before they go and officially ban someone for that. A Discord isn't going to help you get away with it in the long run.
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>>181826495
>A Discord isn't going to help you get away with it in the long run.
worked for sawbones and his friends
sawbones is still an unbanned admin on our server

i dunno, anonymous admin
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>>181826495
>there are all kinds of neat checks and tests we can do to determine if it really is meta communicating or not
what if they admins are metacommunicating and know what to do to pass the checks?
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>>181826585
Who admins the admins?
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>>181826407
>So? A headmin can't police your fucking friends.
Enjoy your slippery slope into metagaming
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>>181826558
>>181826585
These are pains words
http://ss13.moe/forum/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=2688&start=110
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>>181826684
>want to add someone on Steam
>go to MrPain's office and file for a friendship permit
>install the MrPain-approved Keylogging Tool so our admin overlords can monitor our private conversations to make sure i don't tell my friend who the changeling is
>Make a joke about HELP DORMS
>MrPain busts down my door and drags me off to metagaming jail
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>>181826809
>>181826684
Do you have to ask mrpain's permission to add mrpain on steam?
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>>181826879
you have to write a 2 page submission and hand deliver it to his house, then wait the mandatory 2-3 week screening process, which requires you to forfeit your passport and drivers liscense.
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>>181821839
the purpose would be a private examination and treatment area when surgery isn't needed but they are rarely used when the same can be done at the chem fridge
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>>181826706

>The Discord bullshit is done and over with as far as I'm concerned.

>It could have been handled better, yes, absolutely. I like to think we've all learned our lesson from that, and the reason we even have one now is largely based from that. It's like the high school that has a sex ed program that leans heavily on abstinence, yet in the nurses office they leave condoms in a bowl on the counter for anyone to take, no questions asked. They know the kids are gonna fuck each other no matter what you tell them, and you don't want them to knock each other up and give each other AIDS. So you give them condoms so those risks are diminished.

>Our discord is just a gigantic condom. We don't want you meta communicating important round details and such, but a lot of you want to communicate with each other outside of the server/forums/thread/whatever, so we maintain this sort of moderated environment where you can do that and not spoil rounds and shit. Or impregnate each other. Or give each other AIDS.

He's absolutely right, Discord was a mistake for /vg/ since we already had the irc and the thread. It was a good way to tell who was from here and who wasn't as well
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How are they even going to enforce the permaban rule on the discord? Most people there don't use their ckeys for their names, it's really easy to just stay anonymous like Terrel.
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>>181827012
My problem with what he is saying is that a group from our discord purposefully split off to a smaller group made up of only them, from our community and discord, because they didn't like two people in it. They say they don't discuss ss13 there but it's obvious they do because the people who left for it started very rarely posting in ours.
It's just incredibly childish how it started. It's not like the EVE discord where they made it because they started playing EVE all together and its a game that requires a more private nature, and the invited players from EVE to it. The "new" one is just all SS13 people not doing anything specific.
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>>181827167
Most people aren't smart enough.
Not to mention most permabanned players have already outed themselves now and it's too late.
And if you leave, make a new account and start posting again 90% of the time you'll fall into old habits and get outed. Solarious did this multiple times.
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>>181827167
MrPain is going to personally private message everyone saying "what's your ckey?"

If duplicates show up he will demand they byond message him their discord user name, then he will ban the imposter.

I just made this up, they're probably gonna permaban the obvious ones like carsh, dawhatthefox and morena
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>>181827530
morena isn't in the discord
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>>181827461
So admins are going to have to keep an eye open and analyze posting habits just to combat something that isn't a problem? I don't get what the problem with having people that've been banned hang around the discord, none of them cause problems there.
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>>181827586
you don't even have to do that, it's just something you catch. It doesn't really require much thought.
Like "hey I've seen this weird grammar before, oh yeah that was x posting. Wonder if this is them. Oh it is."
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>>181827461
>Solarious did this multiple times.
If you count once as multiple and even then it was the nameleak that exposed it
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>>181827701
>make the same typo as Sarcalogo once did
>MrPain throws a brick through my window and drags me off to gay baby jail
>am not even permabanned
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>>181827701
>Wonder if this is them.
>Oh it is.
Those are some big jumps you're making
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>away mission
>The emergency shuttle has been called
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>>181828002
Call Lilly a faggot
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How is /vg/'s code different then /tg/'s?
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>>181827985
tbf you really can tell with some people when it's them posting. I've figured out who a few people are on here just by paying attention to how they shitpost here and in OOC.
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>>181828174
https://github.com/vgstation-coders/vgstation13
https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/
Bless you and have fun
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I'm inferring from the OP I've managed to miss yet another WE BUILD? fuck.
test server as temporary build server when?
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>>181827701
>be ESL
>make same common grammar mistake other ESL do
>one of them is permabanned
>MrPain calls ICE on me

:(
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>>181828174
Minor feature differences
TGstation uses the LINDA atmos system which flows from tile to tile. /vg/station uses ZAS which forms zones from each airtight block which merge and split as shit is opened/breached
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>>181827886
I'm talking about in the discord. They left and rejoined with different names and stuff a few times.
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>>181828218
Great. Now you've banned some people because you believe you've figured out who they are and other people remain unbanned because we have 448 members and they're not required to identify themselves.
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>I just want one medium rp round
>one where sec reads Miranda rights
>one where sec follows Sop and not stripping someone to their dick
>one where I can snap the Rd's neck as a night elf with a dorf on my shoulder
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Test.
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>>181828543
Hello?
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>>181828705
DELET THIS
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>>181828705
Goodbye.
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>>181828287
They got banned didn't they?
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>>181828903
A few times or something. They're unbanned from everything now and I think they use the nickname "Gabbie" or something.
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>>181828002
>>181828116

>go fetch myself a suit for the expedition on the science outpost
>power runs out and get stuck
>become traitor
>get out of the outpost thanks to getting a toolbox
>just need the captain's rubber stamp
>fetch a radio to spy on sec
>HoS is going up and down in the station
>another security officer around the HoP
>bridge is filled with carps, but that sounds good to me
>get myself a emag, a chameleon-projector and a detonamix for my pda
>blow every possible threats, make my way into the Captain's and snab the rubber
>change the Jukebox while the IAA enter the room
>ever trusting a IAA to not spaghetti about these things and going full valid
>as expected the IAA told the HoS about me
>fuck around, security ask me to go call the shuttle
>implying
>tell the AI to call it by law 2

Easy as pie
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>>181829304
almost every day i am reminded about how just amazing in the worst and funniest ways oblivion is
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>>181828512
>tfw humor someone once and clearly state their arrest reasons, PM'd them, hailed them, declared their arrest status
>they still ran, threw shit everywhere, resisted arrest, and then proceeded to tell the IAA about how I wordlessly stun cuffed them.
Eerytime.

Everyone has the right to remain silent, most of them lack the capacity.
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>>181829953
>tfw you co-operate with sec and they let you off lightly for being so pleasant
good feel
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>>181830527
>>181829953
>be traitor
>get bateman axe murderer kit
>fuck it lets go
>catch one dude in maint then no one elsewhere
>walk into brig
>warden walks into sec breakroom
>im on the other side
>stare at him
>rush him
>immediately tazed first shot
>its Patrick Bateman the warden
>tell him it was a prank but dont act like a shitter
>he lets me go like 5-10 minutes later after a chat

what a nice guy
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>>181795868
>>181796207
The brain meme is beyond retarded, it's not even funny it's just retarded.
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>>181831112
A lot of big normie memes have been exceptionally terrible lately.
Although I gotta say I like bone hurting juice and boneless pizza.
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Is there a way to change your control layout? My middle mouse button is fucked, and I want to change it to one of the side ones.
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>>181831923
set up a macro
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>>181831209
>boneless pizza
I visited my brother the other day.
Him and his idiot friends won't stop inserting boneless into every other sentence. I'm already fucking sick of it.
Memes were a mistake.
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>>181833220
Some people just hae to suck the fun out of it. It's a shame, sorry about your brother and his friends.
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>>181833220
what's that shit from anyway, some ytp or something?
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>>181833842
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ud1JXqGWPvU it's from this. It's not really that funny it's just nonsensical in a good way. But people are ruining it pretty quickly.
Just some guy making pretty low-effort videos about some character he made up and it took off.
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why are ballistic assault rifles so damn useless?
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>>181834675
Because stuns are gg
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>>181834986
no I mean what dumb faggot nerfed this shit into the ground

it doesn't stun anymore

it does less damage than a 9mm SMG

c20r still useful and does the same thing the AR used to do

what the fuck happened? About to learn how to code so I can fix this shit
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>>181835157
>fix this shit
It was nerfed on purpose because cheesers like you would print 30 ARs every fucking shift.
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How many pomfcoins does erasing a note entry cost?
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>>181834675
Because they are incredibly easy and cheap to make?
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>>181835281
>any different from printing out stun revolvers and lasers

I never played science btw

I don't want to have this dumb fucking argument with probably one of the same fucking assholes that doesn't know how to balance this game and reacts to everything with a kneejerk reaction.

the magazine change was good. reducing the stun duration was kind of fine but unnecessary. Removing the stun entirely without even giving a damage boost was over the top and now it's completely worthless and only worth asking science for because I like ballistic weapons and suppression. This needs to be fixed by someone that actually cares and doesn't just want to spite science for making guns, you cum guzzler.

>>181835367
so make them a little harder to make.
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>>181833842
It's a shitty nigger meme

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ud1JXqGWPvU
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>>181835597
>This needs to be fixed
>because I like ballistic weapons
>I never played science btw
You just went full retard
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>>181835816
oh feel free to explain brainlet
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>projectile weapons very easily break bones and cause internal bleeding (which is guaranteed death)
>whining about lack of stuns on them

the only weapon that might actually floor someone in one shot is also the weapon that might actually kill them in one shot

get over it
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>>181836048
The assault rifle and SMG do so little damage they aren't even useful as weapons. Bleeding and broken bones are so fucking useless in our combat system the only consideration they're given is when there's a fucking wizard around. I should also note the retard that started these changes thought energy weapons were some kind of be all end all future weapon and that ballistics are worthless in comparison, which is the kind of braindead thinking you can expect from someone that knows absolutely nothing about guns and plays ss13 because muh sci fi feelz. That itself isn't a problem, but you don't let those kinds of people touch guns because they're fucking retards and are apt to do some bullshit like make it take five fucking shots from a 12mm future assault rifle round to incapacitate a man.

Nothing entirely wrong with cockblocking science so they can't print a bajillion guns. The problem comes when you make those things fundamentally useless to completely disincentivize people from making them. That's retard tier thinking, and comes from the kind of person you don't want making fundamental changes to a game.
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>>181836718
>bleeding is so fucking useless

one buckshot to the chest is literally a death sentence in 60 seconds.
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>>181835597
I was about to make the exact same post as this:>>181836048, but basically anon is right
the bullets break your bones, cause internal bleeding, AND it slows down whoever you shot if they're not on hyperzine.
the way I see weapon priority, it generally flows something like this:
melee range damage<melee range stun<extended range damage<extended range stun
with a few exceptions in each category of course
Usually sec and command is armored enough to withstand a few bullets in a fight, but that shit will mow down non-armored civilians if you know how to herd them right.
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>>181836718
>/k/man says: muh guns
Internal bleeding is a literal death sentence
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>>181836898
>melee range
>extended range

What the fuck am I reading?
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the discord permaban thing is a bit dumb.

Theres only been one or two situations were in game permabanned players have shitted up the discord. Permaing them from discord makes no sense what so ever.
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>>181837067
I didn't even get banned and they banned me from the discord.
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>>181836718
t.SonixApache
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>>181837128
you're probably an asshole
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>>181837015
Melee range means you have to be adjacent to your target(baton, toolbox, barstool)
extended range is something that has range beyond adjacency(taser, floortile, flashbang)
is that really so hard to figure out?
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>>181836873
>buckshot

nice reading comprehension dumby we are talking about assault rifles and why they're allowed to be useless

>>181836939
And so is being taze-lased except that's guaranteed, shuts you down before bleeding can do anything, and cannot be countered by robust medical players. Internal bleeding is such a non-issue with the assault rifle that it's NEVER used. Why are you acting like it fucking matters when nobody who wants to win a fight even cares to think about an assault rifle?

>>181836898
The problem is they aren't useful in an actual fight. They don't do enough damage to incapacitate. Internal bleeding doesn't actually occur often enough to make it viable, it's a gimmick that works against wizards occasionally, at best. Regular bleeding can be stopped with a band aid. Broken hardly ever matter. The point is that it's fucking useless, the reason for it being nerfed into being useless is pants on head retarded, people complain about the prospect of ballistic weapons being useful because muh internal BLEEDZ boogeyman. This shit is retarded. Nobody in their right mind will take a ballistic weapon over an energy gun at our current state. Shotguns MAYBE see use when a ballistics connoisseur or a wizard is on board. Sometimes when there are constructs. Occasionally when somebody has an ablative. Other than that, I am maybe the only person to use shotguns regularly outside of wardens, and fucking NOBODY uses an assault rifle or SMG without immediately regretting it in deadchat. That is unacceptable.

>>181837194
You have two more guesses
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>>181837872
In the end, they were really strong before so they got nerfed to the ground in every way, which is probably the worst way to go about stuff.
It's just as easy to just get an energy gun and make it advanced and just laser people to death any way. The star wars life is the right life, remove ballistics and weapon variety. Just have boring laser guns everywhere.
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>>181827167
>Terrel
we have a mystery user on the discord? That's kind of funny
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>>181828251
You missed 3
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why are all the other boards i go to just frozen
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>>181837872
>nobody uses an assault rifle or SMG without immediately regretting it

a burst fire from an AR is extremely likely to cause internal bleeding, and will at minimum shatter bones and slow to a crawl

you dont understand how hit and run works do you?

lasers are for direct confrontation. guns are hit and get the fuck out of the way of returning fire

bleeding WILL mount up and theres no way there's enough bandages in someones backpack to stop it all
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>>181838021
CODE IT IN
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>>181837067
Name those permabanned players that shit up the discord
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>>181838380
4chan shat itself and jani's are all taking the day off with no pay (per usual)
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>>181838723
kolith
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>>181838087
which is why assault rifles need to be buffed tbqh. They need to do at least 30 damage, ideally 40-45. This would more accurately represent how much fucking damage a gun should really do. It might actually give people a reason to use the bulletproof vestwhich is actually really robust btw, I'm testing it now, but nobody uses ballistics enough for people to remember it exists outside of cargo techs who ordered shotguns and haven't bothered to order ablatives/other armor and we might see people using shit like 9mm and assault rifles. If we tweaked ballistics properly, we can give a reasonable alternative to the stun-based energy weapon ranged combat that so many people complain about right now. Unfortunately, nobody has been able to get them right so far. I am considering

>>181838429
>lasers are for direct confrontation. guns are hit and get the fuck out of the way of returning fire

this doesn't work in practice like you think it does. Burst fire is almost useless outside of single tile choke points because it has such a low RoF. You will be fucked up if you try that shit on somebody with a stun who dodges the first burst. If you don't have superb aiming and timing you will not succeed in any endeavours you set out on save for killing unarmed unarmored people, and even then you might have some trouble because it's so easy to avoid somebody using burst fire.

Ballistics shouldn't be cornholed into a single tactic that can hardly be considered viable. They shouldn't be absolutely forced to rely on a gimmick like burst fire to be remotely useful. They should be able to hold their own in an actual gun fight and ideally would fit a gunfighting role in between close range stuns and long range lasers. Currently they don't, except for shotguns which get all the love they need.
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>>181838451
I would if i knew how, just assumed SOMEONE would have coded it by now.
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>>181838990
Isn't banned.
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IAA briefcase gun is absolute garbage because it's an SMG
It should be changed to a cr20 and increased in cost
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>>181839663
>only gun you can walk around with in oyur hands without someone disarming you
>weak

Ahaha, you are a fool!
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nerf the c20r it has a stun and does internal bleeding it's clearly OP
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>>181836939
It isn't. Use your mortar of iron, take your dex and inaprov then make your way to a disp. Ride out a bicard-inaprov overdose on iron and od chems and it'll clear up. Or just make it ahead of time when yo uget your hyperzine.
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>>181839830
>without someone disarming you

Isn't the briefcase an object you pick up? How can it not be disarmed?
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>>181839663
for those of you who dont know its the ultra shitty ancient SMG(not the assault rifle).
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>This entire round
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>get left behind because I don't have a crowbar
>nobody came back for me

;_;7
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>>181840001
New nice things? Yes, of course. About that effect, no one's really going to see it much because they'll have mesons on anyway. It looks neat though.
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>>181777717
>The shuttle has been called
;_;7
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thank you based Kiyihichikitihiyichiyiti

you cannot ask for a better bird friend
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>>181840001
merge when
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Light one up.
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>>181840118
I swear akrani is a pub shitter. Their validhunting ruined an actual magic show then they ran around being a turboshitter all game.
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>>181840192
I assume this is gonna replace mesons
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>>181840306
Suck it up, you can buy more.
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>>181840354
they've been here a while though haven't they? Like months or years.
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>>181840306
UMA
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>>181840001
this is kinda lame. it doesn't add anything to the game since mesons already exist, doesn't make sense that you can see ore through solid wall, and is not aesthetically pleasing imo. I think we should slightly nerf mesons by giving them a monochrome overlay (like we did night vision) and limit their field of view. also wouldn't hurt to make dark tiles appear slightly darker for easier distinguishing. the mesons are such a attmosphere killer it's not even funny
>>
>flying through space
>find some ship
>bridge is full of combat drones
>find Nikita rockets
>get Nikita
>shoot the airlock instead of the drone
I waste
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>>181840354
ckey yackemflam? They're from TG
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>>181840019
It can be, but if someone sees someone running around with a gun in their hand they're much more likely to disarm you and steal it.

If they see a briefcase they won't bother, and even if they'll do they'll just look inside and see nothing and then throw the briefcase away.
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>>181840383
If that's the case then I'm completely against it. I don't want to blow myself up into a gibtonite because I'm clearing rocks fast, thanks.
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>>181840448
DELICIA
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>>181840407
>tfw can't clone or defib ckey-less mobs anymore
I hate every day that passes since we had to axe that to stop severing ckeys from mobs.

>>181840432
No idea, could just be our time zones don't overlap much.

>>181840467
Seems so. Christ, that explains a lot.
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>>181840637
I might just be remembering them from TG when I played years ago actually
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>Play chemist
>Meteour hits the bar and everyone gets the fuck out
>I get caught by a blast and i end up with internal bleeding
>I had my pill collector loaded up with all healing chems
>Start chuggin inapro, tricord, bircard and make my to the shuttle.
>End up passing out and dying in the shuttle 30 before round end.
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>>181837194
Nah, I'm 100% on board with all the changes, else I wouldn't have made bugfixes that dealt with the issues caused by those exact changes.

I'm all in favor of ballistics, for the reasons that >>181836048 stated.

The retarded anon you're in a shitposting competition with is exactly that; a retarded shitposter.
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>>181840001
no, no please don't. They have this on /tg/ for their mesons and it's so so bad when you're actually a miner.
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wait was the AI rogue or just ashitter/
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>>181840001
If it makes mesons not work on the main station, sure.
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>>181840823
What made you think the ai was rogue?
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>>181840736
Why couldn't you stand up in the shuttle? Was it pain memes?
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>>181840981
Pain memes
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>>181840778
I'm not a retarded shitposter. So far the only people who have replied to me seem to be dumbies who don't even play this game. Not only that, but the second reply in your post misrepresents me, is made by some EVE retard who can't reply to posts, and couldn't even give a valid reason to why ballistics shouldn't be stronger besides a gimmick that hardly ever plays an actual role in gun fights on our server.
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>>181840736
Tricord is useless. OD from bircadine is a bitch too.
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To the guy bitching about the AR, here's a protip

Burst
Fire
You
Moron

I meme people in maint faster than they can scream all the time when I get sci antag
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>>181839663
>>181840060
>SMG
>Fires a midbullet2
>18 x 25 brute damage
>450 brute damage isn't enough to kill anyone

>>181841103
Either you don't play, you've never hit anyone with a ballistic weapon, or you've never been hit with a ballistic weapon.
Bullets will kill the shit out of you unless you've got decent armor.
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>>181840962
it kept bullying riccardo
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>Randy keeps stealing sprites from various servers (including /vg/station) for lifeweeb
>but keeps his shit closed source

really makes you think
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>>181841428
There, there riccardio.
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>Practicing ghetto chem
>Wiki says the bar drinks have ethanol in them
>Use bar drinks with electrolyzer
>None of them have ethanol
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>>181841552
>stealing
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>>181841616
I'm not him
>dio
nice and subtle anon
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>>181841552
>try to play lifeweb
>get a bottle of water
>couldn't figure out how the hell to drink from it
>end up spilling it on myself
>some other guy sees me, points and laughs, and kicks the shit out of me
I don't get the appeal. The game is super laggy even my ss13 standards. Maybe I'm just used to /vg/
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>>181841718
>taking open source shit and putting it in your closed source project

hes actually legally obligated to make his shit open source now too

so, technically, yeah, stealing
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>>181842552
>legally forcing randy to release his code

DO IT POMF
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>>181842471
People RP properly for the most of it (Antags dont ghost when they are caught and torture is actually role played properly for example),It has a more engaging combat than the stun oriented one around here and the setting is unique,along with some other stuff but these are some of the big points.
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>>181842741
>Antags dont ghost when they are caught
Because they can't
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>>181841212
>in maint

yeah a single tile choke point. see >>181839130

If you're surprising people in maint, it doesn't matter what it's with, they're probably dead. That's not the issue here.

>>181841278
I've played this game a shitload. Bullets kill you quick unless you're shooting back. Two people in my memory have killed me with ballistics, and both of them had ablative vests that reflected all of the shots I managed to land, probably somewhere in the range of 1-3. Every time in my memory I have been shot by a ballistic weapon, the band aid in my survival box saved me. Got internal bleeding maybe once as a wizard, got shot on several other occasions and bandaged myself immediately, also as a wizard. The last time I got into a fight with somebody with a burst fire AR was in medbay. They missed a burst and I tazed them while their burst was on cooldown. I lasered them to death immediately.

Ballistics are shit. They're outclassed by lasers in actual fights because of instantly hitting whatever you click on and travelling completely through windows and airlocks, which ballistics can only do sometimes. They're outclased by tasers which travel at the same speed but immediately stun someone to be lasered to death immediately after. They currently fill a very niche role of causing bleed damage to people who can't be stunned, being useable after an EMP, and going through energy reflection from ablatives and juggernaughts.

Now I'm not saying you can't make ballistics work in some way once in a blue moon, or that they don't kill somebody who gets internal bleeding. I'm saying that doesn't matter as much as you think it does, after playing this game for hundreds upon hundreds of hours, almost exclusively as assistant/security. I'm saying that they need to be changed to be more viable and to be able to stand up in the kind of gun fights we actually see on our server. They seriously need to do more than they do right now, or almost nobody will use them.
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>>181843571
By the same metric, lasers are shit because good cops have a keloderma-bicard in their pocket for firefights.
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>>181843571
>Every time in my memory I have been shot by a ballistic weapon

I mean every time I've been shot by a ballistic weapon besides the cases I listed in my post.
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>>181843775
you missed the part that lasers travel instantly and through windows while bullets don't
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>>181843775
and in that case the only reasonable option is a taser tbqh that hardly ever happens or makes a difference btw
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>>181844034
If you aren't getting bitch'd in a 1 or 2 wide killbox decent armor and pills lets you rock pretty hard. Not saying it's common but when it's relevant it's the difference between life or death.
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>>181844004
to be fair though, most bullets will go through single tile windows and most airlocks, or at least have a chance to. Notable exception is the beanbag and buckshot from the shotgun.

>>181844183
oh for sure, you can't really deny that. Provided you don't get stunned anyway, but even then you have things like synaptizine and creatine which can give you an even bigger edge. Chemistry is fucking robust.
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>>181843571
Alright, now you're making sense.

Guess this is more or less a personal experiences thing. Tase & lase is simple and effective, definitely, because our entire combat system is based around stunning and then killing. Beyond that, ballistics hurt. They do "low" damage because most actual armor has higher defense values for bullets than energy, so shooting at an actual bad guy is less likely to actually harm them. That on top of their actually lower damage-per-bullet values, smaller magazine sizes and harder-to-get-by munitions.

That said, I remember being hit by a single bullet the other day. Cost me 15% blood.That's a lot of bloodloss from one wound.

Buffing ballistics is not the way to make them more viable -- they're strong enough as-is. Energy weapons just make a lot more sense on a space station.
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Ballistics is 100% fine with burst fire which is their point. guns don't need a buff if you're using it as a rechargeable floor tile
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>>181844570
>Buffing ballistics is not the way to make them more viable -- they're strong enough as-is.

I disagree. They're not strong at all outside of the shotgun, because the shotgun does a respectable amount of damage. Even then the best part about the shotgun is that it can also be loaded with stun shells, making it more versatile. C20rs are also fairly robust because they stun, but that doesn't necessarily make them OP. Silenced 45s that Ops get are also this way. Ops can still die though, and they aren't any better at killing you than somebody with an e gun. What makes Ops strong is their shield, not their guns.

And the reason energy weapons make more sense on a space station is because ballistics blow holes into things. I don't want to have this same argument again with entry level sci fi dudes that think ballistic weaponry can't exist in a futuristic setting. There is literally nothing stopping ballistic weapons from being just as good at lasers at killing things provided they actually hit something. One of the big draws of laser weaponry is actually just that it can't really miss, which is why one of the first proposed uses of lasers in combat has been missile defence systems.

Ballistics could definitely do with being better. There's almost no real reason they shouldn't be. In fact, the only real reason that I've even seen for the nerf is that they were prolific before they got nerfed into the ground. Whether it's because you don't want science making a bajillion guns or you don't want to see ballistic weapons on a space station, the most reasonable answer to this arguably-not-a-big-problem is to make them harder to obtain, not nerf them into uselessness.

>>181844753
It's their point if you're one of the pants on head retarded coders that specifically made them that way. That doesn't make it good design; in fact that's really dumb design.
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>>181845538
You want a bullet laser,, just use the laser gun. Burst fire is the differentiation across not just the AR's you're so assmad.
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bananas,,,
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>>181845538
post-nerf AR's are in no way useless you hyperbolic fuckstick.
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>>181846095
a ship full of spiders...
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>be MoMMI
>get emagged
>sad because I just wanted to build a shuttle
>oh wait I will finally get to use the R-UST
>plan on making the rust and flooding the station with millions degrees hot plasma
>guy that emagged me just memefloods
you could just leave me alone you know
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>>181846361
can those shuttles actually move or are they just decoration
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>>181844753
>>181845538
Also, ballistics are fine ONLY from a pure damage point of view in that case. They are impractical in a real firefight with burstfire, and you would almost always be better suited with something else. That doesn't make sense. What also doesn't make sense is ballistics only being able to actually do respectable damage with burst fire. That's just plain retarded. I'd be happy to post FBI ballistic statistics if anyone feels like this shouldn't be the case for whatever reason. I'll also continue to argue that citing bleeding and broken bones as if it somehow makes ballistics balanced is dumb.

>>181845878
I'm not assmad, I'm trying to explain something to you. I also can't really understand what you're trying to say, but I'll do my best to address you. I'm not saying that ballistics should equal lasers. Lasers have a very specific role, one that is arguably done pretty well. I wouldn't say they're entirely balanced, but they work well enough. What's more, they have a distinctive advantage that ACTUALLY makes a difference in a fight, and that's their instant hits.

>>181846141
they are 2bh. They're outclassed by almost everything else. SMGs aren't as good, plasma might not be, but everything else is better. Sure you can kill somebody with one, but you'd be better served with something else outside of very specific cases. Feel free to tell me which situation calls for an assault rifle, or even why you think it's useful. I have my own ideas on how they can be used, and they are very few and mostly impractical or incredibly niche.
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>>181846480
you gotta ask the admins
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>PLASMA FLOODING BUT NOT ACTUALLY SETTING THINGS ON FIRE
>PREPARING TO CLONE PEOPLE BUT NOT HAVING ANY BIOMASS
>SCREAMING OVER COMMS ABOUT STUPID SHIT SO IMPORTANT THINGS GET WASHED UP IN GARBAGE
>TRADER LINGS
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>>181846560
can they move after some admin fuckery?
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>>181846361
>murder several people
>proceed to suck them
>mommi walks like 2 tiles away and just stands there fucking staring at me
the only reason I didn't kill you dead was because there was no AI, so it couldn't use you as an extended camera, but man, like give us some room here, can't you see we're busy? what did you want, a fucking show? what a pervert.
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>people complain about stuns and lethals being uncompetitive
>people complain about stronger lethals

kind of confused, I'm assuming they're different types of people but it's strange why only one of these groups is vocal at a time.
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>>181846541
reminder that this guy doesnt play the game and hasnt seen how frequently antags are cucked by bleeding out
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>>181846675
I didnt even know you are ling, I was just looking at you
also this petty gun of yours did almost no damage to me anyway
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>ballistics are bad
literally never used a PKA, spur or mateba.
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>>181846861
Oh no I've seen plenty of antags get cucked by bleeds. Usually because they're wizards and didn't grab bandages or because they didn't have anything to defend themselves with. I've seen even more antags get away with being shot by using a band aid, and I've seen a SHITLOAD more antags die to being tase-lased, which is pretty much in every way more efficient than ballistic weapons outside of the specific case where a wizard can't be lasered after being stunned.
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>>181847086
>none of these are the assault rifle or SMG
>doesn't even list the best ballistic weapon, the PTRS

hmmmmm
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>isaac apparently does a torture gimmick when he gets antag
>have friendly, likeable statics, so I never encounter this
whew, dodged a bullet there
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>>181846861
>>181847086
>tfw remembering fending off reica shitter on her memechair with a pKA at 1 atmosphere and her bleeding to death in maint a few minutes later
It may be a peashooter in air, but goddamn it's still useful
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>>181847364

He does not discriminate by anything except you having a pulse. You'll encounter it eventually.
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I remember wizard spawning me sniper rifle and I killed 3 people with one bullet because it pierces.
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>>181846480
They can move as soon as an admin busses a docking port onto your shuttle's area and updates your console with coords.

>>181846541
I used to kill the everloving fuck out of people so hard with old floor tiles that custer made a non-atomic PR just to stop me.
Yes, stun and done or laser through the glass is better but at the same time, you can reload immediately with another mag turning 1 bag slot into seven "guns" on top of doing more damage with a single volley because you can actually hit instead of being a spray and pray laser/taser shitter

It's budget defense for sci/engineering

There is a vast gulf between useless and pfft I could just use x instead
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>>181847404
>It may be a peashooter in air,

it still does 15 brute in air man
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>>181847772
>15 brute in air
I was always under the impression it was only like, 5. Holy shit, it's a fucking ranged toolbox.
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>>181847404
It's still 15 brute. Much like old floor tiles, it'll kill the fuck out of people.
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I know youre supposed to target the head for longer stuns but is there a specific body part you should be targeting for non stuns like ballistics?
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>>181845538
>>181846541
I don't know what to tell you, man. You keep saying that bone breaks and bleeding isn't a big deal, but it really is. Getting hit by one bullet will fuck you up in a prolonged firefight, unlike lasers. Getting hit by more than three will generally put you down for the count. At that point, they're equal to lasers in terms of lethality -- the only difference being you need to hit someone.

ARs take 1/4th of a magazine to kill someone. C-20rs are good as-is because they stun AND do the bullet memes, which is a death sentence. Glockazines are good as-is. .45 pistols are definitely good as-is, same for shotguns. Giving ballistics stuns is a really bad idea.

I think the issue is that lasers are generally just a better weapon to use on-station, due to projectile travel time and proliferation of windows. Not to mention that lasers are much easier to find, especially in combined stun/lethal forms.

I still don't think buffing the projectile weapons is needed. I don't think that's the solution. Maybe something else has to be done, maybe not. I don't know.
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>>181848725
Feet.
The greyshit cannot run if you disable his feet.
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>>181848725
Whatever hand is holding their weapon. Break hand, drop weapon.
Breaking their legs / feet will slow them to a crawl, easy follow-ups.
Head will do more damage.
torso has highest chance to not get memed by RNG.
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>>181847769
>It's budget defense for sci/engineering

but it doesn't have to be. It could be better, and it only makes sense for it to be better from every perspective except a couple of balance perspectives, the "budget defense for sci/engineering" being to leave SMGs as is and improve assault rifles to be more effective, and "don't let every scientist have a bag load of assault rifles" which can be fixed by making a stronger assault more restrictive in terms of resources required. Or removing the assault rifle from science entirely, leaving them with the shitty SMG, and moving it to a cargo order for security, on par with combat shotguns.

And to be quite honest, the assault rifle does piddly anyway. It's not just about everything else being better, it's that it's frustratingly weak. It literally just needs to do more damage and it would be a viable weapon.

>>181848782
Bone breaks and bleeding isn't as big of a deal as people think it is, though. It SOMETIMES messed people up. It's not reliable, it's not guaranteed, and it sure as hell doesn't put them on par with other weapons. You'd be better served with a taser which is far better because any shot you land with an assault rifle you land with a taser. Prolonged firefights with ballistic weapons are usually only prolonged because they do jack shit for damage unless it's a shotgun. In that respect, why not improve the assault rifle so that it's actually a viable weapon? It doesn't have to stun, it doesn't have to kill people in one hit. But it's not in a reasonable spot right now, doing a whopping 20 damage. That doesn't make sense, it isn't balanced, and a gimmick like increased bleeds and broken bones does not make up for the fact it takes 4-5 shots to incapacitate somebody without any armor. Let's compare that to real life for a moment, where your average intermediate rifle round usually incapacitates somebody without armor in a single shot, barring extreme situations where someone is pumped full of adrenaline
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I have an idea for a new piece of clothing. Specifically a clown prison jumpsuit, so clowns don't look too thin when in perma.

What's the process for creating and submitting such content?
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Is it gay to love a husbando?
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>>181851218
not if you're cute
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>>181851218
dunno but its okay as long as you are not a disgusting waifu
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>>181849992
>>181848782
I would like to point out right now that shotguns aren't the best weapons in the game. They have their uses, and they can be deadly in the right hands. But eguns are still arguably much better, and 9/10 times people go with an egun. This is DESPITE doing FAR more damage than an assault rifle, with (I assume) increased chances of internal bleeding, increased chance to break bones, and being able to put someone down in two hits. They're still not even as good. They're hardly more deadly than a tase lase. People don't complain about shotguns, at all. I'm having a hard time imagining why you wouldn't improve the assault rifle to be more in line with the shotgun, which is in a fine place right now. Why not 30-40 damage? It still won't be used as much as the egun, or even the taser. It won't be complained about besides burst fire, but burst fire can keep the same amount of damage it does now, or be improved a tiny bit, not like it matters much either way. It doesn't even do the base damage amount x3, it has a random chance of doing between some 70-80 damage I think, assuming all three shots land, meaning that the damage of burst fire can be changed so that it doesn't do over a hundred damage in a single burst.

I feel like the only reason this hasn't been talked about is because nobody cares about ballistic weapons really. There's no reason for an assault rifle to be as weak as it is right now. It doesn't change the way the game is played to make it or other similarly weak ballistic weapons stronger, it doesn't throw the balance of the game out of whack. People will still opt for eguns most of the time, and the only difference will be that people may actually start to use the assault rifle outside of a couple of people who like them and use them in niche circumstances where it doesn't even matter they're only using an assault rifle(see:burst fire in maint)
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>>181851218
Since it is gay to love a waifu, and loving a husbando is the inverse of loving a waifu (gay, having trash taste, and wanting a disgusting, 2 dimensional bitch with no personality), no, it's straight as fuck and patrician as well.
What husbando do you love
is it me?
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>>181851114
Join the coder discord and ask for a spriter tag then ping @coder and tell them you have a dream
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>>181851482
Thanks.
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>>181849992
>>181851385
1: Assault rifles are supposed to be xcom tier0 guns, which are shit.
2: R&D can print assault rifles and their ammo -- making them strong will spiral us back down the GunSci path.
3: Guns should really not be very accessible. Yes, cargo, I know, but still.

People opt for eguns because stuns. That's it. Stuns. Every combat discussion starts and ends with that one word. Stuns.
You fix stuns, you fix ballistics.

anyway, go make a PR to raise assault rifle damage to 30, see how many posts it takes before you get the [Drama] tag of doom.
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>>181853243
getting shot by a ballistic shell is just as stunning as an electrode. You're just shit programmers and even worse idea guys.
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here's how you fix ballistics, make every bullet you fire stun like how electrodes stun.

intention to kill is what makes a criminal a criminal and intention to keep people ALIVE so they can be used to WORK is what makes a police officer.
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reminder to not respond to the pair of lukewarm weiners
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improve the chances of police success by having stun guns stun slightly longer

>>181853734
you'll never have good ideas like be because you hate yourself more than you hate fun.
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>>181853234
>(((Donald Trump)))
The real man in charge is Mike "Fairtax and Gay Zaps" Pence. Donald is just a neocon plant to make sure Mike doesn't get anything done about our horrible tax system or allowing people who are uncomfortable with their sexuality the option for more efficient treatment.
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>>181853243
You don't need to change stuns to make ballistics viable. You need to make ballistics a more desirable choice to put them at least close to being on par with stuns. You can do that by making them do more damage. Remove assault rifles from science, buff them, lock them under cargo. That way they're subject to the same gate that shotguns are, and people don't complain about cargo grabbing shotguns.
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>>181853875
>more efficient treatment
Over 12 billion bullets are sold in the US every year. There is no cheaper or more effective treatment. Alternative healing is a joke.
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>>181854121
>>181853243
Actually I feel like everything should have its damage buffed. Our combat is fucking cartooney, and the problem isn't stuns. Stuns are what keep our combat system running. Without stuns you have people running around whacking each other with wrenches for five minutes. It doesn't take 20 hits to knock somebody out with a wrench. It shouldn't take 5 shots from a 12mm futuristic assault rifle round to incapacitate someone. You shouldn't be able to take a few hits to the head from an energy sword. Shit is fucking bizarre. The only reason it hasn't been changed is because stuns allow you to kill someone in a reasonable time frame. You don't even have to change stuns to shut up whiners that hate them; you just need to present a viable alternative in the form of reasonable and realistic lethal options.
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stop replying to him, morons.
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you can shitpost all you want but I gave you a real workable idea and you didnt even consider it.


make ballistics stun and they are on par with stun guns wow so difficult
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>>181854572
>stop replying to him, morons
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>>181854670
Wow, thats how it used to be.
Wow, stun guns do no damage.
Wow, ballistics do a lot of damage.
Wow, so balanced.
You're a retard.
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JUST MAKE TAZERS HAVE 4 TILE RANGES

BOOM
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>>181854846
there wasn't any real problem with it outside of science making assault rifles every round.
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>>181854846
>being so shit at math you can't balance damage in an FPS something that's been around for multiple decades worked on by the best and brightest who developed many working examples to check your work off of
>electing to shitpost and yell and treat others like punching bags because of your mental impotence
>calling others retarded

I can go on
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>>181854953
>still takes a cartoonishly long amount of time to kill someone

while this is arguably a fine change, it can only work if everything does more damage. It's the problem every anti-stunner runs into; stuns are the only way our combat works.
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it's not really fun being dead, especially if you just get 3-hit without really being able to retaliate -- this counts for stuns, chloral memes, and for getting popped in the head with a rifle
cloning is gay -- taking 10 seconds to get people back into the round after they die 10 seconds into the round is going to make death feel even cheaper

You're suggesting a complete out-the-window of everything damage related, it's probably not going to happen unless you fork. Not sure what's left to say.

>>181854846
do not respond to the lukewarm weiners

>>181854953
might work, make a PR

>>181854990
this
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>>181855212
initial reply intended for >>181854558, whoops.
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>>181854990
That was the problem and there isn't a way to fix that without removing them from science, which just removes them from the game.
>>181855034
Go on then, spastic.
You lower the damage of ballistics to be "balanced" they become peashooters.
SS13 combat is about getting things done fast and effectively. A stun + damage is so overpowered you can kill people before they even have a chance to react. With energy weapons, the shooter has to switch firing modes after his stun and this lowers how long your stunned for and allows for time to evade your attacker. Ballistics with stuns are just shoot, hit, shoot again and they stand 0 chance against you.
You lower the damage to <10, now you're going through so many bullets and so much chance for someone to yell HELP X HAS A GUN IN Y that it becomes useless and people will opt for something else. Even melee weapons would outclass it.
The CR20 is the nuke op only weapon, which stuns and does damage. It is so strong that the only way you're beating it is if the Op runs out of ammo or you get the drop of them. This is not balanced, but they are supposed to be stronger than the station.
The station however is not supposed to be so easily and well armed. Weaponry is supposed to be basic and limited.
Guns are fine without stuns because you are supposed to use burst-fire. This means they do worthwhile damage without being idiotic.
You are not smart or intelligent 2hotdogs, neither do you understand this game. Stop posting.
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>>181855389
>>181855212
Oh it's never going to happen. Our combat is going to continue to be less than what it could be. People are going to continue to whine about stuns, and lethals being ineffective. Nothing major will ever really change.

I don't know what you're really trying to say otherwise with your post, though. Are you trying to say it taking a long ass time to kill somebody without stuns would be any better than being able to actually fight and kill somebody with something like a wrench? That it would be less fun to actually fight with something other than a toolbox and have it matter? I think it would be more fun if people weren't cornholed into stunning people to do anything effective. A knife should have a higher chance of cutting something vital and killing someone. A wrench or crowbar should be able to knock you out if you get hit in the head.

>>181856079
>there isn't a way to fix that without removing them from science

and how much do assault rifles cost?

Also, are you implying having to change firing modes on an egun matters at all? This is literally only a problem for the worst shitters I have ever seen that almost never win a fight anyway. And are you implying Ops are unbeatable? The only reason they don't fluke almost every time is because of their energy shields, not their c20r. And burst fire is a retarded fucking meme, for multiple reasons and in multiple ways

your post is absolutely abhorrent. I have to say this, at least 2hotdogs poster doesn't make posts that display a remarkable lack of understanding about the game
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>>181851218
Yes, just come out already, who cares?
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>>181856587
lol get good you scrub you don't know shit
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>>181856587
>The only reason they don't fluke almost every time is because of their energy shields

and their NVGs. NVGs and energy shields are what give them a huge advantage. Their is fundamentally no difference between murdering somebody with a c20r and an egun tase+laze. You can bring along a bunch of eguns instead of a c20r+extra magazines and be able to do the exact same thing with the added benefit of being able to recharge, and the con of being more vulnerable to EMPs. Most people won't even use up all their c20r ammo so their higher capacity isn't THAT big of a deal.
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>>181857084
I'm probably more robust than you are tbqh. If you were that poster you're frankly a huge shitter

>>181857114
oh and their armour.

Honestly, to say that nuke ops' advantage is in their guns is pretty stupid. They have a whole lot more that makes them robust than their guns, which are hardly any more effective than anything that can be found in the armory on station.
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>>181848725
>target the head for longer stuns
I thought that was the groin?
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>>181851218
It's not gay if it's on the roid.
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>>181857341
>he thinks hes robust
hahahahaha holy shit, only the worst players call themself robust. you are pathetic
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>>181857658
that sounds like a retarded generalization that only envious shitters make.
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>>181857341
You know how armor works right? And how if you stun someone it doesn't matter in the slightest because they're stunned.
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>>181857658
>>181857760
>dickwaving without posting ckeys

settle it on the thunderdome you two, no you won't
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>>181857815
It matters more than the c20r both stunning and damaging someone. It's helped a few ops get away from someone who doesn't have quite enough laser shots

>>181857912
I'm tempted to post my ckey 2bh, but then everyone will know I'm an autistic shitposter.
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They banned termedclepe from Paradise. Fuck Niggerladun the SJW australian cuck and his furfag friends
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>>181860285
>termedclepe banned from anywhere

this is surprising how?
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>>181860818
He used to be bad but he actually played properly on Paradise. The fagmins there banned him out of the blue for his /vg/ past because they didn't like him calling out the head Niggerladun for his hypocrisy
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They banned termedclepe from VG. Fuck Manaoany the whiny reddit bitch and his faggot friends.
>>
>people want borgs to be even stronger

Literally why
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>>181861162
autistic borg players screeching for buffs
>>
Like I said, you retarded piece of shit power abuser, I am glad I am on the right side of history.
How embarrassing to be such a loser you would NEED the power to delete posts and mute others. How pathetic and low can a living being become? You're really lowering the bar for humanity, monkey.
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Why are people in this community such pieces of shit?
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>>181861162
explain
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>>181861818
psychology majors/minors, various forms of mind poison visualized and enforced by admins unto their userbases.
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>>181861870
Giving them hands which can pick up anything relevant to their jobs that they didn't have in their modules before. Thereby removing any downside they once had from not being human.
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http://www.strawpoll.me/13372115/

i have seen dozens if not hundreds of people using these terms in real life, person to person speech

vote yes
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>>181862046
You should be able to roleplay a memer if you want to, no matter how shitty those people are.
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>>181862046
niqqa it's 2560, why do you think 2017 language will still exist?

In lore the grammar nazis win in 2472 and enforce strict language laws still followed today.
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>>181862046
how about 'no'
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>>181862228
retcon
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>>181862226
>>181862046
the only way this will fly is for the clown

and you'll still probably get fed a few monkey cubes and a glass of water
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>>181861818
>You seem to think my job is to make the server the kind of place you want to play on. It's not.
Great headmin, stupid niggers. Paradise fags will eat any shit up.
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>>181849992
We have had about 80 actual issues and PR's on github. Go educate yourself about N.O.
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>Have a big monitor
>BYOND screen is small as fuck with no way to change it

Am I fucked lads?
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>>181862718
>not having ss13, /vg/, wiki and spess ambience all side by side.
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>>181808125
This shit is why we need more off-station jobs
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Quick post your notes.
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>>181862718
how big?
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>>181861274
2hotdogs, get a life.
Move on, and by moving on I don't mean /pol/, stay away from /pol/ for your own benefit.
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>>181854558
Learn actual damage values. Most people have gotten fatal damage within 6 hits by most accessible gear
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>>181862718
1080p is the best resolution to play SS13 at, unless you have a huge taskbar or something. 4K would also work. 3K is bad, though. 3K is JUST BARELY too small to scale the sprites to 3x, if you take the taskbar and title bar into account. (It's exactly big enough without them.)

Wait I misread your post, but I'm still keeping the stuff above because it's right
Select stretch to fit under the view dropdown menu
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>>181863504
I only have one

"Started stabbing people with pens when he thought no admins were online. Didnt kill or crit them or anything but still worth keeping an eye out for. by Mrpain666 (Unknowmin) on Wed, December 23rd of 2015"
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>>181862718
Screenshot?
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>>181863645
like?
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>>181863504

slipped floors as a borg despite being told not to by a human. by DrCelt (A Legend That Lost His Cause) on Sat, April 25th of 2015
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>the chemist was banned
E X T E N D E D
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>>181863504
how do I get my notes?
>>
So who poisoned the food?
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>>181863746
>stabbing people with pen can get you noted (or worse)
woooooooow
>>
>Don't get VALIDATED
>Illuminated and converted escape, arrivals, half of the station's maint
Gud shift

>>181863789
Welder, toolbox flamethrowers, etc and slip traps are the bog standard anyone with a pulse
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>>181863789
toolbox
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>>181863915
Nice gif.
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>>181863915
stop postintg this it's so lewd and this is a sfw bord
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>>181863995
>>181864002
that's not a wrench is it?
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>>181863915
I knew what this was before I even clicked it, Im a degenerate.
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>>181862046
>http://www.strawpoll.me/13372115/
The only one I'd agree on is 'lol', which a number people I know use in passing.
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>>181863915

sauce me senpai
>>
> Join to observe
> Cult stuff everywhere in arrivals
> ohgod.jpg
> Assisant flips his shit, half of sec comes running
> Just one artificer
>> Has a lawyer
> Lawyer and HoS hash things out with AI as translator
> Artificer is miner cultified by mining fuckery, just wants to do autism
> Artificer allowed to cultify main hallways and maint
Only on SS13.
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>>181863746
>this warranted a note
>>181863842
>this only warranted a note and not a silicon ban
what the fuck is wrong with our admins?
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>>181864183
http://ss13.moe/index.php/bans
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>>181864096
same.
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>>181864093
>accessible gear
>theres toolboxes in literally every single o2 locker and in all-access areas

who cares
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>>181857341
Ops would actually be really scary to fight if tasers abnd eguns didn't exist.
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>>181863952
It's notes for hey, this guy is killbaiting by pen spamming people to trigger some autist with ptsd so he can ahelp to get them banned. The notes are so he can't just shrug it off when someone bites down.

>>181864093
And? The station is gushing force 15+ weapons and tools/weapons with special effects anyone with tools and a pulse can use. If you fight like a retard you'll get wrecked like a retard which is fine
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>>181863504
I have two notes:
"Did a poor Mime act." and "Have a thing for blondies."

I didn't save them, but those are seriously my Notes.
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>>181864232
>http://ss13.moe/index.php/bans

thanks, just as good desu
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>>181862046
We should be able to say lmao because of 'ayy lmao' as well as some things like 'btfo', but things like 'lol' or 'rofl' shouldn't be allowed.
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>>181864230
i did stop slipping floors

for about 3 or 4 minutes then i did it again
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>>181864249
>>181864292
And what's wrong with everything doing more damage? Why does it have to be contained to shit like toolboxes?
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>>181864323
It's a slippery slope charged with dude opinionslmao. A hard line heads that off.

>>181864392
The dangerous weapons are a declaration of intent.
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>>181864392
Because it would prevent people from even crying out and force all toys to make you balid salid because killing weapons would be so efficient you could not reasonably have the time to determine if it's a real weapon or not before dying.
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>>181864267
yeah they would be. I'd actually be kind of curious to what it would feel like 2bh, if stuns weren't a thing
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>>181864230
What the fuck is wrong with you. You can't nail a guy if the order isn't airtight.
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>>181864497
Wrong.
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>>181864497
why does this matter

>>181864508
what's wrong with that, exactly?
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>>181864392
>small, lightweight wrench
>large metal toolbox capable of fitting a whole arsenal of tools

boy i wonder which would do more damage?
>>
Quick post a song you want on the jukebox

it has to be comfy though!
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>>181864724
It's important to have clear sign of intent with our escalation rules.
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>>181840001
I love it.
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>>181865348
>wrench
>moderately heavy with its force focused onto a small area of impact with good leverage

this is enough to knock out or kill a man.
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>>181840001
If its a mesons change, fuck off and eat shit.
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>>181865348
>large human fist
>small almost weightless bullet not even the size of a finger

boy i wonder which would do more damage?
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>>181865702
Yeah mesons are dead for mining.
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>>181866007
Eat shit then you scumbag.
>>
itt: no one who understands physics
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>>181866062
Good luck dealing with the change, my dad is a collab.
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>>181840001
Hi, Deity.
How do you plan on making mesons not work on the roid?
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>>181863504
My first (and only real) note is about trying to use light flickering as a ghost to communicate with a guy who was looking for corpses, but I don't even agree with that one note. He was looking to get directions to corpses, yeah, but I was just kinda randomly flickering them to fuck with him
I wasn't even dead, I was an observer
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>>181866276
Mesons will only show red rocks, miners will have to use a new glasses to find the ores.

If you mean how I achieved the effect without the sight flag it's a secret until I open the PR.
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>>181866574
Assuming you actually ARE Deity, I don't trust you to have done it in a non-shit way
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>>181866574
>Killing mesons for TG lite shit
Do you know why TG accepts the absolute dogshit mesons Diety? Because lavaland is all about combat and mining is a after-thought, not because they enjoy having pulsing shitty images of ore instead of constant ones.
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>>181866574
will this finally make mining dark and spooky?
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>>181865379
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGcyKEZtWuE
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Is the pop growing?
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Seasoned miner here, if that mesons change goes through Science can say goodbye to quality mineral delivery, and so can other departments like bar, medbay, etc.
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>>181867559
You get used to it, on the bright side you can start taking night vision health huds which are super useful.
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>>181867559
>season miner here
>didn't post the well cooked girl
>>
rip?
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>>181867757
No I won't, fuck that. Y'all keep adding shit just because, like the virtual wallet. before you could just go to the machine and redeem right away. Now you have to walk up to an ATM and do that security lowering shit, risking random assistant/clown stealing your ID.
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>>181840001
make another version where the ores don't flash, and put it in the protolathe behind some tech
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>>181865773
>Natural regen heals roughly 70% of a punch if you aren't starving
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>>181866742
Well I can guarantee it doesn't lags.

>>181866898
I didn't even knew TG had a similar effect until it was pointed here and I searched a video of it but mine looks smoother. I've never played in lavaland so I have no idea what you're talking about.

>>181867142
Yes. I've added sound effects back to the asteroid too to help with the immersion.

I'll improve the shitty secret rooms and add mining vaults as well. First one I'm making is Goliath Nest.

>>181867559
It'll play exactly the same, it'll just be more immersive.
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>>181868675
deity I like you and respect your work but you need to stop, stop, STOP
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>>181864724
There's enough BALID HUNDING :DDDD going on already, not to mention the powergay and constrained meta. No reason to pile on even fucking more.
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>>181868675
I want to complain about the unnecessary bullshit being added to mining, but I actually kind of like it.
Now fix the fucking virtual wallet bullshit please Deity. At the very least, make it start on security level 0 instead of 1.
>>
>Step away for 2 minutes to get some food
>Come back and the round is over
The fuck, how'd it end?
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BAGEL
IS
WORSE
THAN
TAXI
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>>181869085
still not seeing the connection here
>>
>Bust my dick working
>Dude revsquadlmao

>>181868675
>>181869054
Just make it alternate goggles like the material scanners so people who want immulsions can have it and it doesn't fuck things up.

>>181869120
3 big stronk men ganked 2 heads to win rev squad
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>>181869120
Revs
>>
Nooo! I just found a cursed d20!
>>
>discover which block is invisibility
>revs end the round
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>>181865348
See, it'd be cooler if the toolbox did more damage for the more stuff that was inside.
>>
>local man tries to make under appreciated job more aesthetic
>gets heckled by a mob
>>
antag datums when
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Any fun Chef stories?
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>>181869170
Perhaps you should get a brain then.
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>>181869345
or maybe you should make a valid point that isn't pants on head retarded
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>>181868675
>It'll play exactly the same, it'll just be more immersive and take 5 times as long to find materials
FTFY
>>
>atmos tech
>rev
>oh boy
>make a burn chamber at the start of the shift
>heat an O2 canister to 8000+C
>get tcomms access
>blow it with my C4
>grab the heated canister and head to HoP
>keep trying to open the airlock
>HoP opens it for me
>holy shit
>come inside with the canister
>open it
>he is wearing a hardsuit
>ask to leave
>turn on magboots
>he falls, take off his clothes
>laser him into oblivion
>round over
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>>181842552
Nah sprites are creative Commons
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>>181869336
A guy was being a fag
I slipped, murdered him, and gibbered him before anyone could stop me
The end
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>>181869145
Easy to say that when taxi is the best map
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>>181869271
But not realistic because e=mc2 and f=ma.
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>>181869336
Every round
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>>181869336
Reminder that if as a chef you don't put conveyor belts from your kitchen to thr bar and put food on them you aren't a real chef
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>>181869271
hardly, people will just fill their tool box with individual strains of cable coil for maximum damage. it's a dumb idea
>>
>round end murderbone some dude
>they get platinum mad

why is this so funny
>>
>>181869414
Although your impotent tears are delicious, you should seriously try not being retarded.
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>>181868675
>immersive
>it wont lag
>I didnt know TG had it

Diety, you are one of the few people I don't trust at all with code, so I call bullshit on all of these and I call bullshit on forcing us all on this shit.

I am immersed already when I play miner and I use my mesons to be able to check rocks for minerals, I do not feel immersed when my high tech shitty goggles decide to not work at all and do random pulses to detect ore, its shit, it will make mining a pain, it wont make it more immersive for me, it looks bad and you are forcing it on me and others. Like >>181869179 said, just drop 3 of these in the outpost, call them old mining mesons and be done with it.
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>>181869449
>>keep trying to open the airlock
>>HoP opens it for me
the absolute madman, holy shit
>>
>>181869676
I don't know family, I'm pretty sure I'm not retarded here. I can't say the same for you. Going on that, I have to say you're the retard here.
>>
>>181868675
>>181869779
This to be honest. Being an immulsions based alternative to mesons would make them much better in comparison to an outright replacement. I know I'd use them, but I'm very sure that 90% of mining wouldn't want to and would probably outright quit playing it if this got pushed through as a replacement.
>>
AAAAAAAAA
WHY ISN'T IT OPENING
>>
new flcl -xxxtentacion amv when?
soon

the local cargo tech is a fucking cunt
>>
>>181868060
there's literally an ATM in cargo
>>
>>181866898
>>181867559
>>181868060
Man, miners are spoiled brats.
>>
>>181865553
and it can, I've had a desperate shitfight in a dark maintenance when he had a wrench and I had a socket wrench

I won, headshots stronk
>>
REASONS WHY IAA IS USEFUL:

1. Fax machine
2. ...
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>>181873413
can get deathsquads called in to gas stations

roleplay
>>
>>181873396
doesn't happen nearly often enough tbqh
>>
>>181873413
extreme saltmining when you get someone fired by the HoP and security assistance for gross negligence and a well written report
>>
REASONS WHY DETECTIVE IS USEFUL:

1. Revolver
2. ...
>>
REASONS WHY AI IS USEFUL

1. Opening doors
2. ...
>>
>>181874671
solves mysteries
gets drunk
>>
I heard miners dont actually care about ripleys, have i been wasting my time all these shifts?
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>>181874865
Lots of miners don't even car about mining.
>>
>>181874865
Ask them if they want it, some, like me, just enjoy using the normal drill more.
>>
>>181874865
Ripleys are painfully slow moving, but automatically picking up ore means miners who use ripleys gather more materials.
>>
>>181874756
Bullying nonhumans
>>
>>181874865
Ripleys are sorta slow, that's their only weak point.
I recently realized how useful they are for mass-transporting shit like crates, though.
>>
>>181875297
AIs are not bullies, they are pure.
>>
>>181875402
You're thinking of MoMMIs.
>>
REASONS WHY I AM USEFUL:

1: ...
2: ...

;_;
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>>181875506
>REASONS WHY XENOARCH IS USEFUL:
>1: ...
>2: ...
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>>181875506
You've got enough blood in you to save two useful people!
Your brain could be turned into cake to feed a number of useful people!
Your brianless, bloodless corpse could be thrown into the gibber to produce even more food, or enough biomass to clone one actually important person!
Donate today, anon! Don't be useless!
>>
>>181875713
1. ending the universe
2. katanas
>>
>>181875779
don't forget, one humanoid corpse also has an extra 7 organs not mentioned to cook/deep-fry + burgerpizzaify with to stretch out those meals for a larger crew

kidney pizza, lungcake, heart burger, eye spaghetti, the list goes on
>>
>tfw I never show up on sunmoning
Fuck cult
>>
REASONS WHY THE 'REASONS WHY X IS USEFUL' MEME IS USEFUL
1. Reason 1
2. ellipses
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>>181876998
literally just ask for a cult ban and the admins will give you one cuckboy
>>
>>181876883
>wasting a heart on a burger
>not making the valentine's day chocolate to give to your waifu
>>
>be shitty ling as always but I'm tatorling so I can e20 things
>shard in escape with spectators AND a broken window leading to is so anything but a 1 will detonate it
>fuck up a couple things and end up being blasted into space

still worth it
>>
I just fucking lawnmow the roid with a diamond drill but I'm also not running this shit on an IBM server stack so adding a bunch of joosy visual bloat is going to make me fucking unable to play mining period.
>>
That feel when Normie job prevents me wasting my day on 8 hours of uninterrupted space
>>
>>181874865
Miner here, if you put a diamond drill on that thing it's all I'll use. The fact I don't have to grab every pile manually is so nice.
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>>181863504
I would if I knew how to check my notes
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>>181878828
>32x32 pixel game from 1983
>can't run it if it renders some of the tiles, you have to render ALL the tiles
>it's literally almost 2020
?
>>
>>181879051
you have to Become Admin
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>>181878378
That's only on valentine's day, though.
>>
>>181879051
Just ahelp and ask
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>>181879145
Parallax and goonchat make my game perform worse and this probably will too.
>>
>>181879974
connection or hardware issue?
>>
>>181880078
I'm assuming hardware, but at the same time I don't understand how a chat window that doesn't do it's own garbage collection is come kind of improvement.
>>
>>181874756
Passive-aggressive newscasts against nonhumans and antags
Killing things
Dudetrackgglmao
Enabling shit getting done
Sec record transcriptionist(?)
Exhausted father figure slash mentor to new crew

>>181874865
Worse than useless at mining without a diamond drill. They're good stripminers with a DDrill but science needs frequent mineral drops, not fuckhuge drops once every hour and a half. something the ripley's slow speed hurts. What it is useful for though, is loading a firefighter ripley with a clamp, mech rcd, tesla relay, then load up a cable layer, foam extinguisher, water tank, fuel tank, toolbox of cells, toolbox of sacid, fuel, and a soldering iron, toolbox with some metal and glass, and crates of circuits and parts for a basic station. Set the access req to science and don't dna lock it so anything happens science can go repair shit.

As a general practice you should get into, play both sides of the interaction so you have an understanding from both side.
>>
>>181873953

happens way too often when someone hits me
>>
>>181879307
>>181879327
Fuck
>>
>>181874865
Ask them if they want one before you make one. Some of them will want one or happily take one, some will just go 'nuh gib dd and BoH bls'.
Also, put a fucking Diamond Drill on it. Otherwise it's not worth using because it's slow as shit.
Also gib Tesla Relay too pls.
>>
>>181874036
Literally never ever happens. Even a detective going full retarded and lethaling people then dragging them to the brig as a form of """random search""" never results in anything.
>>
>>181874865
Some miners enjoy a D-drill Ripley. I prefer the regular diamond drill.
I'm not really into holding down W and mining 3 wide for the entire length of the roid. I'd rather just mine the minerals, so the drill's better for me.
>>
>>181874865
Ripleys are kinda shitty for sure. Really, most mechs are except phazons and HONK
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>>181881309
>durand is shitty

Really?
>>
Won't people that are banned from the discord just shit up the thread instead anonymously?
>>
>>181881309
>Stealth R&D box opener and breacher
>Creatine Launcher
>Mech of Slow Area Denial
>Meme Mech of Pure Speed (And arrests)
>bad
maybe you should just open your mind and see
>>
>>181881449
They do that already anyway.
>>
>>181881449
They already do?

We can't police the thread, we can police the discord.
>>
>>181881449
At least if we ban them from discord they will be more likely to stop fucking being obsessed with our community.
>>
>log on
>SMELELELELELELELELE
the fuck happened?
>>
>>181881386
once you have used a phazon you can never go back
>>
>>181881449
What permabanned players shit up discord again? Plapatin? Solarious? They were unbanned from discord.
>>
>>181881309
Nah. Durand is still a strong health pack and is pretty cheap.. You're probably including the honk for the honkerblaster but its real strength is that all you need is metal you can order from cargo to make 2-3 more mechs to get the whole strike team mounted. Oddy can both kill, treat, and clown car for the team pretty well.

ripley may not be good for combat but that clamp is GOAT to load up a station starter kit and the mech rcd is baller
The only real downer is the gygax's cost and even then it's trivial.
>>
>>181881692
We can't, though, unless you want to PM 412 people (448 members - 31 with Server Admin - 5 with Coder + 1 overlap - 1 Chicken, don't really need proof from those people) and demand that they show picture evidence of their ckey.
>>
>>181881891
t. yodel ooo
>>
>>181881530
You have never played the game.
>>
>Be plasmeme
>Take a fireball to the face
>Get up and walk away
>Suck it, wiznerd
>Get hit with curse of the horse
>Welp
>>
>>181882145
It's almost as if getting mechs out depends on so much shit that it's mildly rare
maybe YOU should play more often, friend
>>
>>181882219
>be plasmeme
>get meme'd on
checks out
>>
>>181881692
the discord isn't being shit up by any perma'd players

literally the active perma'd players are Sue (they post dogs) Nevill and Carsh. None of them shit up the discord in the slightest.

The poll lacks context and is insanely shitty
>>
>>181882527
thanks for confirming you've never used a mech before and have never played the game before.
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>>181882530
I really like plasmanmen because they are so easy to meme on, but can live through some silly bullshit. It's fun.
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>>181881530
>creatine

Not chloral?
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>>181882008
Most permabanned players are open about who they are, ban the ones that are obvious and the rest will shape up or get out. They're only there for attention anyway, if they can have their name attached they dont want to be there.

>>181882662
Polls don't need context, they are just asking your opinion on a matter. It's a simple yes/no question.

MrPain wants the discord to be for /vg/ss13. So he wants the users to be /vg/ss13 players. It's a fair idea, if they want to remain in the /vg/ss13 community they should get unbanned and in the future not freakin get banned.
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Honestly even as a banned shitter, server polls to punish people is a fucking awful idea since people will most of the time just vote yes to fuck with them. It happened with the clown shit. This really seems like the kind of things admins should discuss in the admin channel instead of holding a poll
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>>181883083
If that is pains vision, it's not very good. Forcing admins to police something as near impossible as that is an awful idea, also given the list of permabanned players who participate, what's the point?

Why should the discord become some sort of exclusive community? Are we going to do the lifeweb thing and ask everyone for their ckey in order to post? If you get banned from the discord, do you get banned from the server?
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>>181882887
an ody can't scan chloral
>>181882670
thanks for the spicy opinions TGfriend
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>bring back a mystery dice from xenoarch and tell people to come test their luck
>first guy who takes it kicks it away
>dice becomes normal
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>>181883329
No I just made it up on the spot. Who knows what pain thinks. It doesn't matter what pain fucking thinks. It's a server wide poll, for all players of the server to decide. The admins don't matter, your metafriends don't matter. This is FOR THE PEOPLE by THE PEOPLE
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>>181874865
Ripley is for mining miners, drill alone is for the loot miners.
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>>181883468
Shouldn't we ask the people who use discord? There's quite a few people on the server who don't, i'm sure, and probably think perma banned players go there to shit things up.

That's why context matters. There's a fair deal of people voting blindly, i'm sure.
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>>181883595
there's people in our discord that don't play on /vg/, that don't even play ss13.

They should decide?
It's the /vg/ss13 discord, who but the /vg/ss13 playerbase should get a vote?
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>>181883330
>an ody can't scan chloral

That makes no sense.
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>>181883734
Yeah why not. They use it, and most of the people in our discord play.

Current political climate: No one in the discord is in favor of it.
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>>181883895
The syringe gun mounted on the Ody can't directly scan some chems, like Chloral and Nanobots
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>>181883905
Current political climate: I'm in the discord and I'm in favor of it
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>>181884032
Nice, too bad you won't speak up because you're a beta orbiter, or lying on the internet like a monster.
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>>181883083
>>181883329
I can only assume "most permabanned players" will be Sue, Nevill, and Carshalash. That's not very many, I don't think. They're disallowed from playing on the server because they're incapable of getting better, being a shitter and ban evading directly to get permabanned, and incapable of getting better (respectively).
That leaves 409 people. Assume the Discord becomes a safe space for people who are allowed to play on the server and only them. Many of them don't ever really speak. I don't recognise most of them. It's night impossible to tell how many of them are allowed to play on the server. Is it okay to be in the Discord if you pretend to be someone else? So far, it seems that the arguments for banning them has nothing to do with them shitting up the Discord and everything to do with their ckeys, so is it fine if you don't tell anyone what your ckey is?
For the record, this is what Pain was shooting for with the poll (to conclude the discussion there had previously been about it).
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>>181884117
I mean, none of them currently shit up the discord whatsoever.
I get wanting to ban shitters but this just seems like people wanting to be kinda mean without any solid justification. There is *one* channel in Discord dedicated to the playing of SS13, and all the others range from related to completely unrelated.
They can't welderbomb in an internet chatroom. If they try, boot 'em. But what, actually, is the harm in letting them contribute to the community?
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>>181884117
>>181884420
I think the main grudge against those sorts is that they're hanging around just trying to get circlejerk cred.
So later they can appeal, do the usual crybaby act that they're so very sorry, MAYBE bring in a voucher from another server and in the end just subtly appeal to one of the admins that hang on the discord because they're always there talking to them.
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>>181884084
I speak as frequently as I need too, mostly in ick after a round ends I played in
>>181884117
>>181884420
Here's the thing though, it doesn't matter if it's a bad idea. If the players want it, then by god it'll happen. You may feel it's a bad idea, you can vote no (or you can't vote at all carsh) but you are but one of many.

First step towards a better server where the headmin doesn't just dictate shit, but instead asks the players and does what THEY want. Why do you hate democracy?
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>>181884750
>democracy
Lmao have you ever seen this server
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>>181884750
I mean, people can vote even if they don't have a stake in it, i.e. they don't go on the discord at all. At least server votes with regard to in-game happenings make sense, because anyone who joins the server most likely plays the server. But a ton of people play without joining the discord probably with good reason and that doesn't follow democratically for me.
It's like letting citizens in California vote for the governor of Kansas.

>>181884654
Fair point. I think that applies with somebody like Carsh in some ways, that's kind of why he's there half the time.
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>>181884750
>>181885012
That asides, it's like letting people vote on whether murder should be legal
The majority wants it. Why do you hate democracy?
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>>181885012
I think the saddest thing about him to me is that I found him a decent guy at first that seemed to wish to improve.
Then he just started circlejerking with sawbones and the like, and became a walking meme that spouted shit even in github. Also never learned anything about silicons.

Little did he know that the true secret to staying alive and being a shitter was befriending nuke, not zealot.
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>>181885175
>discard two posts completely with "That asides,"
>only response is a bait-tier shitpost
OK, anon. It's clear you don't know what you're talking about.

>>181885289
Yeah. I want to like him, we had some good times together in Medbay, but he really doesn't do well for himself
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>>181885175
The majority would never vote for murder, the majority however would vote for forcing murderers to not live in their neighbourhoods. That's a better comparison
>>181885008
All communities eventually head towards democracy as they grow large enough
>>181885012
Even if you've never used your country's health service you can vote for a party that would defund it. That's democracy.
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>>181885351
Those two posts are arguing against each other, anon. "That asides" means "forgetting for a moment that players are voting on Discord shitters."
>>181885368
Take a quick look at the opinions in the Discord. It's not their neighbourhoods.
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http://ss13.moe/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=3845

Squidmoko's admin application, thoughts on this guy? What's good and what's bad?
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>>181881530
>creatine launcher

Doesnt that just turn people into hulks?
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>>181886645
literally who
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>>181886727
Two shots with a syringe gun will give them 30u of creatine, which will kill them in about 40ish seconds since it's an overdose (OD being about 27 last time I checked).
it's fun
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I don't know why people make such a big fuss about this.
By the end of the day everyone knows that Sue, Nevill and Zachary will end up unbanned.
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>>181886727
one shot will kill them from toxins and two shots will kill them after 45 seconds from gibbing
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>>181883329
Wow, it's almost like people using discord to metacomm should have just been purged with no possibility of returning so admins wouldn't NEED to worry about it.
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>>181888301
There should be no discord outside of a channel for codes and a channel for round reports and asking questions about game mechanics.
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why do so many people play on CM?
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>>181889659
DM server with some semblance of rules.
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>>181889659
>public server so it attracts normies
>connection to popular franchise
>gunwank
>combat heavy gameplay
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I think the borgs were rogue...
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>>181892060
nah it's fine
probably a rogue atmos tech
don't card me
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>>181892060
ya think?
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>>181889659

It's straightforward so you don't have to worry about the confusion of regular spess (as long as you don't try being creative as a muhreen, that gets you bannud) and it can be a nice experience for a while before the gaping flaws become apparent and you get bored of the same meta every round
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>HoS didn't get a ban
>antonio did
I mean, I think antonio deserves the ban, but HoS deserves it 10x more.
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>>181882034
who?
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>>181890284
>normies
>space station 13

Are you being serious?
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>>181869505
i get ur trying to meme but f=ma literally proves u wrong
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>>181892580
>bartender
>just wanted him beat over the head a little for petty bullshit
>apparently gave sec the wild ride all shift
The fuck even happened I spent half of that dead or 'tisming to try and find my clothes
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>>181892749
Human strength is a fixed factor. e=mc2 relates to the fact you can't move the same object at the same speed as it gets heavier since you can only produce a fixed energy. Thus speed (c) goes down. f=ma has higher m but lower a thus, except in straight up-down motion, which is not implied when both characters are standing.
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>be vamp
>get my first target, a vox
>jump through a billion loops to keep him alive while I get the succ
>thought IVing him blood would be enough, but apparently he takes clone damage when I succ him too
>whip up some rezadone, keep him alive through regular rezadone, nitrogen, antitox, dexalin, iron injections, all while IVing blood
>he wakes up half way through and begs me to put him out of his misery
>I feel terrible, I promise him he'll live if he stays with me
>tells me he won't tell anyone if I just let him go
>after about 40 minutes get 300 blood
>enthrall him out of pity
>don't ask anything of him, let him do his chem autism in peace
>murder the rest of science in cold blood without torturing them to clear my conscious
why the fuck is vampire so terrifying for the vampire
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>>181892852
Kept breaking out, attacking people in a non-lethal but very annoying way (hook pull + undress + baton + hook in inconvenient spot) on sec and other crew, kept taunting/trying to use AI to keep running away/doing more of this shit.
Note that there was effectively only 1 sec officer.
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>>181893072
>when the PTSD kicks in and you instantly leap on the sole pod survivor vox because he reminds you of the other vamp that nearly murdered you
That poor birdman, feel bad now.
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>>181889659
dude guns
I mean they're fucking really shitty and even the SMG has a fucking bolt action fire rate at this point but still
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>>181893321
>mistaking Vox for each other
I mistook the other science vox with my thrall at one point and handed him a stun revolver, telling him to shoot up anyone that comes in.
he custom emoted some shit and didn't pick up the gun, so I went next door, kidnapped the scientist RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE NONTHRALL, and then it fucking dawns on me that the vox I gave the gun too wasn't even the thrall. I cracked up out loud and had to stand up for a second to recollect from my idiocy.
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>>181892342
How do you blow borgs exactly? Just with an ion rifle or is there something you can make that "blows" them?
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>>181893757
You press the Destroy button on the Robotics Control Console to instantly destroy the borg, leaving only their MMI behind.
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>>181889003
Need to run that by godemperor sawbones.
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>>181893176
>arrest him and drag his ass out of decompressing meeting room
>just wanted to give a fuck you speech and punch him a couple times
>suddenly blasma
>lagging to shit, can't save the other two nigs in brig lobby
>turns out unintentionally made the right call
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>>181893757
There's a console that detonates them remotely. You need robotics access to use it.
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>Be humble plantmancer
>Make a bunch of cake while I work on making weaponized oranges
>Science doesn't have uranium
>Get mutagen from medbay
>Chef comes in
>Yells at my cake
>Tells me he needs corn, potatoes, and meat
>Three vox come in and harass the chef
>Tase my mustached friend and walk into the kitchen like they own the place
>Work even harder on my project to regain the chef's honor
>New botanist walks in
>Tell him to not eat the apples and what the chef wants
>Never see him again
>Finally get an orange tree with fruit that splat and have pacid, cyanide, and stoxin
>Plasma fills the air as the AI is on antimov
>Just keep working on my plants
>Cyborg rolls through and ignores my sweet plasmaman bod
>Orange tree finally ready to harvest
>Get four really deadly tomatoes
>God damn it
>Purged instead of spliced
>Shuttle arrives
>Get eight death tomatoes and head over
>Try to rescue a MMI and Posibrain
>Die to heat and ZAS
>Never even saw those filthy vox again
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Any changes to Robotics the past few months?
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>>181894634
Thanks for trying to save us at least, you were a real champ.
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>>181894817
The job? Officer cheapskies and rename boards work now, that's all I can think of.
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>>181894817
Cyborgs get status messages now when they're unlocked and components get switched, so that's nice.
Combat borgs can be outfitted with the jetpack now.
Advanced kidneys.
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>>181894817
Oh and medbots now have HEV suit voice-clips which is just as annoying as it sounds.
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>>181896781
ADMINISTERING

MEDICAL

ATTENTION
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>>181894817
this >>181895783 and these:
https://github.com/vgstation-coders/vgstation13/pull/15338
https://github.com/vgstation-coders/vgstation13/pull/15344
https://github.com/vgstation-coders/vgstation13/pull/15351
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>>181896893
I am fucking so fed up with hearing that all fucking round oh my god
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>>181897176
>DAE codd gud :^U
fuck off jknpj
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>>181892961
Damn nigga you straight up retarded
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>>181893757
>is there something you can make that "blows" them?
Oh yes
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>>181897778
It's unfortunate that you haven't been able to pass middleschool yet. Oh well. Best of lucks.
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