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Last time on /ss13g/ - spessmen on a spess station:
>Everyone hates glass floors
>VGstation is hippy lite
>Neon hair "waifus" still not banned or valid

>What is Space Station 13?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHH1vfY6HTA
http://pastebin.com/VNcX2Quc

>New player guide
http://ss13.moe/wiki/index.php/The_Basics
http://ss13.moe/wiki/index.php/General_Help

>BYOND client
http://byond.com/download/build/LATEST/

>Pomf Serbian, main /vg/station server
byond://game.ss13.moe:7777

>Test server
byond://ss13.moe:1337

>Public server list
http://byond.com/games/exadv1/spacestation13

>How do I connect to the servers?
Hit the cogwheel in the upper right corner of the BYOND hub and pick "Open Location"

>/vg/station forum and logs
http://ss13.moe/forum/
http://game.ss13.moe/logs

>Map renders collection: updated sometimes
http://game.ss13.moe/minimaps/images/maps/

>Coderbus, here!
https://github.com/d3athrow/vgstation13
@rizon #coderbus @rizon #vgstation
https://discord.gg/fE3Ts8A

>Cryo Autism
http://pastebin.com/raw/YmAyagUa

>Round Stats
http://stats.ss13.moe/

>SS13 booru for all your SS13 images!
http://ss13.booru.org/

>How To Install BYOND: The Video Tutorial: The Movie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iWiZwv9f1o

>Nostalgia
https://boards.fireden.net/vg/search/text/ss13g/
http://ss13.moe/index.php/bans

>OP Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/raw/z7czw5WQ
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What are some skills that every robust tater should have? I feel confident enough to antag but i doubt ordering a parapen and stalking maintenance vents will get me very far
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second for remove silicon powercreep
#StandWithYclat
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>>181670928
dodging tasers/bullets, knowing the maps so that you can escape situations, knowing how to shoot a gun
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>>181671034
explain
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For me...
on this independence day,
it's the Burger Royale.
The BEST freedom burger.

sunny side up egg with avocado
white onions and tomato
one thicc all beef patty
hawaiian buns
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>>181671215
https://github.com/vgstation-coders/vgstation13/pull/15338

gives borgs job related hands, making them better than humans unconditionally now
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>>181671034
Go complain on the git then, thread feedback, unless ridiculously strong, is ignored, making a git account is quick anyways
>>181671215
https://github.com/vgstation-coders/vgstation13/pull/15338
Medborgs will not be able to pick up beakers and such, generaly all borgs will have hands related to their jobs, so engie borgs will have the ability to pick up boards and make machines, supply borgs will be able to pick up drinks, so on.
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>>181671536
>borgs can now perform surgery in med
>means it cuts the time in half for my skrell bodyswap down in half.
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>>181670928
Making bombs
How to singuloose
How to plasmaflood
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>>181671898
Its more than just that anon, borgs are now nigh unstopable AND better than you at almost everything.

300 HP, UN—ZASABLE, POLY ACID SMOKE IMUNE, NO SLOWDOWN BORGS WITH BUILT IN TOOLS ARE STEALING YOUR JERBS, ARE YOU GONNA LET THAT HAPPEN?
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>>181672192
>chemistry thing can't pick up meat/plasma
>still can't make cryo/load the cloner
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>>181672546
None of the grippers are added to any of the borgs at the current stage but there's a gripper specifically for picking up sheets and inserting them.
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reminder to bully plapatin for being a huge faggot
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>>181673154
meat ain't a sheet type anon
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What server do I go on to actually have fun.

All the playerbases I've tried out have been cancer.
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>>181673487
>fun
>SS13
Just go find another game
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>>181673487
Citadel.
>make female character
>thirsty textfuckers PDA you incessantly
It's funny in a sad way.
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>>181673406
Plasma sure is, but no, you'll still need a helping hand for the meat.
Could just ask the first human you clone to pop some meat into the tube.
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>>181673625
I'm here forever.

>>181673725
Too bad citadel is /lounge/, otherwise it could be pretty fun.
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>>181670928
efficient hardsuit use and EVA movement
evasion
ghettochem
efficient breaking and entering
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>>181670928
>What are some skills that every robust tater should have?

You need to learn how to formulate arousing emotes which will distract your prey. Describe an updraft from the nearby vent upskirting your lab coat and revealing your bare buttocks, then while your target is typing 'looc wtf' that's when you stab him.
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>>181674081
What would be an example of usable ghettochem, all I can think of is stupid bullshit
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this just proves more guns = more safety
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>be IAA
>someone asks me to write a fax
>go to office
>shut the shutters because I like my privacy
>starting writing
>SUPERMATTER CASCADE
>trapped in office
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>>181673725
Is citadel mostly furries and vore?
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>>181674495
no it doesn't
everything was chaotic
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>flashbang the weebslut hop with 'nades i found in the garbage
>run for my life with the AI like a TRUE AND HONEST PATRIOT when the cascade hits
World's fastest and most fulfilling greytide
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This round was so fucking based, despite getting supermatter delamination AND ebin nugg'd xdxddddxxd

o7
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>>181674581
spoken like true commie pinko scum
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>Prepare to wire SME to grid and shock doors for easy succ
>crystal crate is bussed in
>die because didn't expect the glow being part of the sprite, hit crystal instead of box

T-thanks admins
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CHINA
NUMBA
WAN
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>>181674586
Thank you for saving me, TRUE PATRIOT. (first time I ever actually experienced a full cascade, got fucking tense)
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>fucking around with plants on the research station
>oh nice 100 potency blue tomatoes i can get up to some goofs
>bluespace rift tears open my room
>everyone coming to jump in tears open my room further
>I lose all of the tomatoes because people are throwing fireworks and flashbangs everywhere
>no tomato goofs
>kill and eat that fucking faggot crab
Pretty good round
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>asshole probably antag pacid smokes the way to research
>kills almost nobody
>bluespace rift is broken so everybody dies anyway
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I'll have you know I've written a sternly worded letter to the Queen about this, America.
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>>181674486
Lube, acid, greyshit vodka, getting specific chems in case you lost your shit, being able to use the mortar efficiently, there are a few more but Im not spoiling it, go to town and practice, youl find out the ones I didnt mention too.
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>>181670928
Know how to build a singularity engine so you can hold the station ransom.
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>>181674486
being able to cook hyperzine without needing a chem dispenser
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t. meet me in dorms
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Someone have a picture of the poutine fortress?
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>>181673625
>>181673846

>tfw oldfag
>havent actually played in years because all of the good servers are dead and /vg/ is too different from how it used to be to be fun
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>>181676262
You're right, we do need the gravity generator back
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>>181671536
NT is planning on replacing all of you with soulless unpaid robot slaves!

So, pretty much nothing changes.
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>>181676350
We had a gravity generator? What'd it do?
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>>181676350

It's actually more of a community issue really.
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>>181676483
Generated gravity.
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>>181676483
You threw bombs at it and it generated fun.
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>>181676605
I'm sure turning it off led to plenty of fun.

>>181676648
Did things go asplode?
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>>181674561
Yes.
Also like 75% of them don't even ERP, they just want to prance around as a furfag.
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>>181676483
It was a machine the size of the gateway that caused gravity to turn off if it was destroyed or lost power.
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>>181676704
Made you float as if you were in space, onstation.
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>play sec
>raid emergency toolboxes for flares
>deal with petty squabbles and people ringing the brig bell
>taze the occasional jackass that runs instead of accepting a light brig sentence
>wander the station and crawl maintenance for 40 minutes until a bomb goes off and i/we all die

Is this really what its like?
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>>181674554
Should be carrying a crowbar in your pockets every round like a normal being and not a Bay refugee.
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>>181677403
If you carry a crowbar before anything requires you to, you're a powergaming bayby.
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>>181677480
>powergaming
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>>181677480
"Bayby" is not the correct term here. You'll want to try "TG refugee" or "Hippie shitter"
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yooo
does anything happen if you emag a stun baton?
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>>181677307
Stretch the middle part out by 20 years
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No sec round is really too much the same. I've had rounds where I suicide succumb of boredom and rounds where I firefight a ling with a singularity on the edge of my screen dragging a bloodied hop behind me into an escape pod.
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>>181677480
That's why you were trapped in your office while I was back in CentComm banging with the best waifus. :)
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>you will never play lifeweb for the first time again
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>>181678089
>i will never play lifeweb
feels pretty good
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>>181678089
>you will never rewind back to when Lifeweb was good
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>>181678089

>you will never rape your waifu on lifeweb for the first time again
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>>181677669
What you want to do is pop the cell out, use a syringe to inject some liquid plasma into the cell and pop it back in for fun times.
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>>181678351
Run it under a tap to make it stun for longer
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>>181677781
>>181677307
>literally the only security personnel on the station
>not even real sec, a fucking detective
>the taters bought multiple pokeballs and just dumped them on the station
>stemming the monstrous tide with a newbie bartender who took 30 seconds to turn a laser gun to lethal while bitching at the AI to open the quarantined areas

Sec, nothing like it.
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>>181678089

>you will never rape people as a kid for the first time again
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lifeweb is just so much fucking BETTER than regular old ss13. The combat, the medicine, the aesthetic. If it wasn't limited to weekends and three servers we wouldn't even have these threads anymore.
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>still can't light a cigar with ignater
fuggin bleb goderds
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>>181678918
Yeah, SS13 is just ~le valids and ~le powergaming along with underage discord circlejerk, Lifeweb is a much, much better game.
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>>181678089
>you will never leak lifeweb source code
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>>181679193
>you will never be DDOSed by randy
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>>181678918

if lifeweb was available 24/7 people would get bored faster eventually

Randy is milking it out on purpose, anon. you even have pure autists buying bigger dicks to cater their egos. He's doing a lot of dosh this way

spessmen and lifeweb are different despite the gameplay, and both shares their up and down. personally, i prefers playing spessmen while being antagonist, and lifeweb for the vice and ghost fuckery
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>>181679193
just like play hellmoo and eat babies
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>>181677846
That's the point: anyone can do that. Anyone can just antagcheck and "win" with 0 chance of anyone else winning if they so want. That's why powergaming is shit, because the current codebase only works if some amount of roleplaying is there to keep people in check.
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>be HoP
>give myself all level access and play super HoS
>throw shit fits if things slightly dont go my way
>refuse to help sec but you bet im keeping the sec access and gear

At least it was funny when the clown shaved your head.
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>>181682429
>literally has back up cat ears in the event the first cat ears get stolen and will immediately run to a mirror if gets shaved
>has the audacity to call anyone else a nerd
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>>181682429
t. Francis
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>Flying through space with a nuke op suit
>tab out for a second
>tab back in to Antonio flying into me and cutting off my hand
At least I got to the goonsat just in time for the end of the raid
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>>181682429
t. Francis
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>start playing AI with fear of failure
>hey, this isn't so bad
>hey, this is great
>loving this

Does this feeling ever go away? I have a shit eating grin even when I get robusted hard by EMPs/angry balidhundrs.
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>>181682429
Every fucking time.
My second favorite is the warden staying in brig exactly 0% of the time since he's too busy hunting for BALIDS EBIN :DDDDDD and he actually ends up trying to capture the HoP who was being put to arrest by the antags.
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>stacked wheelchair with half the crew
>goes through teleporter and ends up in the gooncode satellite
>tfw we actually got it
CHAIRS BROS FOREVER
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>>181682525
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>botanist force-feeds 4 people death-food after they buckle into shuttle
>sorry lmao didnt mean to
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Not to be a fun killer but shouldn't upgrading the clown cart make you WGW-tier balid?
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>>181682569
>>181682538
>>181682525
Try again.
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>>181682582
>warden
>hunting valids
He was too busy riding in the chair. Should warrant a warden ban 2bh
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>>181682613
ICKITY OCKITY
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Casual reminder to check that one hidden room by the pod bay on occasion. You never know what you might find

That impromptu raid was incredible
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>>181682547
S-sorry Kolton, I thought it was one of those mobs from the vault that got spaced.
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>>181682691
He only ended up riding in the chair later on, his first point of concern and indeed what he was literally doing was EBIN BALID HUNDING. And either of them is totally warden-banworthy, let alone both.
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>>181682691
>he hates fun
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>>181682675
Naw. Getting the banana upgrade isn't valid, but if you're a complete shitter that layers escape with 5 stacks of bananas during ops, that's valid as fuck.
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>>181682695
You'll have to ban us all.
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>>181682813
Job first, fun second.

If you don't want to be stuck managing brig, don't pick a job that involves that.
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>>181682675
YES IT FUCKING SHOULD
>borg demanding someone takes the braindead clown's ID and uses it
SHOULD BE A FUCKING DING DONG BANNU
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>convert 4 people
>all braindead or cult banned
>spagetti in maint
>die
>apologise in ahelp and close spess
im sorry
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>>181682791
>Repeatedly scream at him to get implants
>he just keeps pocket pooling at the camera console
>HoS was somehow the least terrible of that chain of command and still was kindof a generic WE MUST SECURE THE REDTAXT
'fun' round.
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>>181682824
not even, you so much as put a single layer of bananas in halls, and you'll get lasered to death no questions asked. it's tantamount to lubing.
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>>181682669
I was new to botany and had memories of eating fly amatia without dying so I was like sure lol it'll be like 5 toxin damage, I'm not saying I had no idea that i force fed it, I just didn't think it'd be that bad.
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Leaving to explore space was a mistake, maintlife is the comfiest life.
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>>181682791
>>181682960
>he was valid hunting
>he was watching cameras

B-BAN HIM!

*readjusts cat ears and licks paws*
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>>181682582
>it's cult
>BETTER SHOOT BEEPSKY BECAUSE IT POINTED AT ME WHILE I WAS IN MY OFFICE AND HAVE A CONSOLE TO FIX IT LITERALLY RIGHT NEXT TO ME
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>>181682613
That sounds rad, shame I latejoined or would have been all over that.
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>>181683172
I have no issue with camera-watching. But when your officers are screaming NIBBA GET THE IMPLANTS over and over you should probably do that.
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>>181682429
Souhei/Elon Musk is literally autistic and it comes through in game
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>>181682824
I guess so, there's some HEAVY implied intent there but I guess being a third party makes it a debatable about actual personal guilt.
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>>181682938
>be cargo cult
>at least QM is cultist too, I can focus on the boxes and he can do the cultist shit
>he goes braindead
> I have nine million crates to deliver, trying to multitask, but it's aboslutely impossible
>borg comes in disposals half my crates after I tell it to fuck off
>cult gets outed, no one's even researched yet
>HoS walks in every 20 seconds mumbling about his energy guns and implants
>captain approves the implant orders before I can remove them
>HoS wades past my experimental energy crates, my goat crates, my emitter crates, and grabs his implant box, doesn't even say a word
>try to distribute guns over cult comms, no one shows up, everyone on the station except for me and the braindead QM are implanted
>try to murder 2 guys for sharding, fail miserably, but manage to convince everyone that it was the other guys fault
>same borg eventually tries to arrest me "just in case"
>it chases me for a while, I almost space it but fuck up.
>arrests me, takes me to sec, I get deconverted
>ghost
I haven't antagged in so long, I've gotten really shit.
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>got cult again

I think I'll just sit this round out.
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>>181682429
Sougei banvalids when?
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Souhei should get a headban or appearance ban desu.
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>>181683903
Souhei is fine.
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>tfw don't play enough to get salty about people's statics.
>tfw just try to get along with whoever is playing whatever, suck it up when people do dumb shit.

I don't have any real baring on the situation, but I feel as Francis was really just metagrudging Souhei that round. Ordering the clown to prank them all shift, criticizing every single move he did, and just generally being an asshat exclusively towards them.

Souhei isn't defenseless, back up cat ears is profound faggotry, but Francis's initial hate for her seemed rather baseless and out of the blue considering that they didn't interact in any meaningful way before he started engineering those situations with the HoP.
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>>181682760
>not reading the chat or seeing the name of something when mousing over
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>>181684068
t. Elon Musk
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>>181684068
t. Souhei
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>>181684068
t. Souhei
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>>181684082
Souhei needs to be metagriefed, what's the issue?
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>>181684082
t. Souhei
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>>181684327
t. Souhei
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t. Souhei
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I want to hatefuck Souhei's boypussy!
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>>181684567
Excuse you, it's not a boypussy, it's a manpussy
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if you aren't already metagrudging Souhei, then you are part of the problem
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What's the best way to metagrudge?
I was thinking pick mime and space all the faggot ears would be a good one.
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>>181685507
Souhei is mai waifu. I hope she's cute in real life.
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Valkyrie is shit
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>tfw anytime i go borer i immediately look for hot pink hair

Why do you guys hate souhei so much? Newfag by the way
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>>181685967
>hot
>pink hair
pick one
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>>181686047
Hot pink is a color
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>>181686167
A shitty one
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>>181686274
A color nonetheless.
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>Robots can no longer get a blank name
I bet that will upset at least one fag that loves being absolutely degraded.
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>>181685967
Same and then when they overextend I pretend to be AFK and watch them die lol
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>>181684082
>pink hair'd hopcurity
>shoots Beepsky because it pointed at her during cult
Is it really a metagrudge if they deserve it
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>>181683570
>manage to convince everyone
you didn't convince anyone, the borg arrested both of you because nobody knew shit
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[05:03:27]PDA: Tito Dorito (PDA: PDA-Edward Norton (Janitor)) sent "Share with me your fat cock." to PDA-Mike Cooper (Assistant) along with other shit all-round. Appeal at http://ss13.moe/forum
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>>181689265
but did you
AHELPIT?
H
E
L
P
I
T
?
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>no night elf or blood elf mutation for science or botany

REEEEE!
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>>181689430
Wasn't me, I just thought it was funny.
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Why do we let this happen in our server?
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>Rin gets banned
>Security doesn't win anymore
You made all mistake
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>>181689490
mcfucking kill yourself you absolute shitstain.
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>>181689646
because isaac is a faggot and a cuck with a deranged imagination.
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>>181689265
Wait are you not allowed to send lewd pda messages that's like the entire point
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>>181689646
perma both of them
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>>181689662
>banning rin
>a mistake
"No"
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>>181688696
Shooting Beepsky was a little far, but to be fair, she only did it because some fuck kept setting her to arrest and Beepsky kept trying to arrest her.
Again, during cult.
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>>181689646
THREW UP VOX SPUNK ALL OVER ME
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>>181689662
are you kidding me, security has been "winning" left and right. more players are willing to play now that she's not on. the only person left next to ban is Souhei, and you'll have your security paradise of EZ redtexts for all.
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>>181689646
that interview was kinda hot
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>become captain
>go to bar for a drink
>vox trader comes into the bar
>has a closet
>ask him to open the closet
>it's a catbeast
>kill the tarjaran
>vox kill me back with his traitor shit
>security jumps on him right away
>mfw
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>>181688696
>IT SCULT
>going to cargo to order implants
>beepsky starts chasing me because some metagrudging sec asshole set me on arrest like ever 2nd round
>blow beepsky, take myself off arrest, repair the beepsky in my office and inform HoS that someone puts me on arrest all the time and I had to blow beepsky
>go to order implants
>warden comes up, tases and cuffs me
???
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>the chickun himself made a PR for custom vending machines
where is the possum fag when we need him?
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>>181689872
ban
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>>181690049
We never need a possum fag
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>>181689872
>arrested for being wanted

You should have really ahelped that one sweetie
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>>181689781
Yeah right, like anyone can match the robustness of Rin
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>>181689646
You know a dude is a huge normalfag underageb& when they post their shit on yidtube. At least he has some interesting gimmicks, I guess. But it seems to usually be with metabutties.
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>You can't induce vomiting in yourself or in someone else to reduce amount of toxins in them
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>>181690669
No one wants to match him because his level is so low
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>>181690874
Charcoal does this, water pot ass is much better at purging though
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>>181691007
It's a glitch
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>>181690880
Yeah right, I bet you never pinned her
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>>181691085
This is all charcoal is good for though, I think.

If waterpot pills didn't work charcoal would be the way to do it
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNUT4SqbHdc
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>>181691007
Rather not explode ty
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>>181691761
5u of each is not enough to do any organ damage, please don't be a borg that batons me to death when I feed someone them
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>>181691902
Shouldn't use an exploit then
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>>181689662
Let me share a story about being under Rins "leadership":
>be sec officer
>rin HoS
>rin bitches me out for not "sounding off" over sec channel round start
>threatens demotion if I don't "fall in line"
>being a typically lazy officer who has no time for that shit, I fuck off to bar
>detective sitting there
>start chatting over some beers, subject of our boss being a total bitch gets brought up
>apparently I wasn't the only one that got bitched off to
>another officer shows up, 3 of us now drinking pretty heavy
>bartender not here, have to rely on hops extended access to get drinks until he finally shows up
>we welcome him with cheer and he just walks into his backroom, grabs the shotgun, and fucks off
>shitcurity has had enough
>we break in and steal the Vendomat
>bartender comes back and an altercation occurs
>Rin who is historically never on the side of his officers, throws a bitch fit about how we are all useless drunks
>let the steam blow over, the guys manage to grab the Vendomat and take it to sec breakroom still
>4th officer joins in, everyone gets piss fucking drunk, rin autistically screaming over sec channel
>we don't fall in line
>we barricade the windows, trash the fuck outta the place as captain and rin watches
>centcomm has to call in a therapist, not much gets accomplished and the station falls quickly to antags roaming free
>one of the officers gets liver surgery 3 times
>as the situation becomes irrepairable, rin kills himself in armory.
One of the best sec rounds I ever played
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>>181692038
>centcomm has to call in a therapist, not much gets accomplished and the station falls quickly to antags roaming free
>one of the officers gets liver surgery 3 times
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>>181692038
Doing God's work.
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>>181690305
ahelping is GAY
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>>181692038
I remember walking into that as IAA. Was highly amusing round.
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>>181690852
I've recorded some slightly memorable things from our server and uploaded them
All unlisted though
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>>181692038
>mfw I was captain that round
>mfw I had to keep the therapist alive through a complete shitstorm that was the crew
>mfw the therapist tried to accuse one of the officers (I think the detective) of wanting to fuck his sister
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>play as AI
>order borgs to accumulate as much wealth as possible
>buy freedom and leave on a shuttle
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>>181673189
lol he sounds autistic
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>>181692038
>Be a shitter security and greif
>HoS isn't happy about it
>Whine in the thread
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>>181693952
Hi Rin!
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>>181693952
How did you get that meaning from those words?
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>>181693952
>one of the best rounds he's had
>but he's whining?
Anon... are you retarded?
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>>181692038
I was the officer who got liver surgery 3 times
great round
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>>181686047
Hot pink is a fucking color you moron holy shit
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>>181692038
>rin bitches me out for not "sounding off" over sec channel round start
>threatens demotion if I don't "fall in line"

never ever unban rin for any reason holy shit
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who was worse, Rin, Digitalis, or Vulgaris
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>>181694814
rin
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>>181694814
Digitalis was the biggest asshole of that bunch, but he played security officer, not HoS
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>tfw playing for years
>never validhunted excessively
>know alot about the game but still an unrobust piece of shit and get dunked on all the time as antag within minutes of doing anything antagonistic
>roleplaying isn't fun if you spend all your antag rolls in perma or deadchat
I fell for the roleplay meme, didn't I?
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>>181695454
You know you can like 50/50 right you don't have to be full rp or full valid salid
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>>181695454
You cant do it either way. I've been playing for many moons too and when I try and roleplay I get fucked over because your reactions are just slower in general. Playing minimally increases your chance of survival to the max, never stop moving, RIP AND TEAR.
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>>181695454
When you are the valid salad, pull out all the stops. You know how to play the game, be dirty and devious. Fuck things up without making it look like you did it on purpose whenever you can.
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story time fags

>be me
>back in 2015
>autistic cousin arrives from seatle
>he asks what game I am playing
>say space station 13
>show him how to play
>he goes back home to seatle and don't see him again for a while

>be now
>cousin is at my house for a while
>he's still autistic
>he plays LITERALLY baystation with every antag role turned off
>he plays colonial marines
>nothing else

>suggest we play some hippe
>admin says no metagaming
>I guess we're going back to baystation

Please just fucking kill me holy shit
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>>181695532
that was what I had in mind, but my bad ping mixed with poor combat skills just never expanded beyond basic, since I would play jobs that would put me furthest away from the action. I'm decently robust as sec, but that's because sec has everything they need to win handed to them on a silver platter. maybe I need to grey tide more.
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>>181694390
It's Rin, of course he is
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I miss NoX
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>>181695745
>suggest we play some hippie
get out
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>be a grey
>decide to ghetto bar it up
>get access to use machines easily
>get some tools from cargo without problem
>ask the mechanic to wire the room back to the grid because I'm functionally retarded when it comes to wiring
>he makes me an entire fucking chemlab, an autolathe, and even some blasma
>finally get a customer
>make him 15u of oxycotton after dropping spaghetti in the backroom for like five minutes, get a hundred bucks, die trying to find him again to creatine memes
Was genuinely surprised how many people were receptive to shit, always thought living the ghetto life would be hellish. Even had a doc give me some extra blasma I ended up unable to use.
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>>181696720
back in the old days when he started being faggoty on an RP server I would say let's get on hippie and we would just get in cardboard boxes and run around and shit

it made him happy and I didn't have to /me blink so it was good
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>>181694814

>Rin assume everyone is antag at the simplest little sign
>Digitalis already claimed that he did antagonist shit as non-antag several times and always made sure to fuck with the borgs in every ways possible
>Vulgaris going full rambo the second someone stub his toe on someone else

Digitalis since he actually does his best to shit things up, Rin and Vulgaris both has security autism
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>>181696948
>and always made sure to fuck with the borgs in every ways possible
what the fuck, I love Digitalis now.
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>>181699067
nice try Digitalis
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>>181696948
>Digitalis already claimed that he did antagonist shit as non-antag several times and always made sure to fuck with the borgs in every ways possible
hahaa not so DIGITAL now are you
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the new CM sprites are gay as fuck. just when I thought the server couldn't get any gayer. baka senpai
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>>181700810
why the fuck would you go on that garbage piece of shit server
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>>181700894
to remind myself how we're so much better here.
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>>181700973
that's a pretty understandable reason

always a good idea to go to a shitty server, cut a single wire in engineering, then leave
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>>181700810
>CM has seethrough floors
>We will never be mature enough to come to a conclusion on seethrough floors
Can't believe they're better than us.
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>>181701187
I think they'd be an awesome addition but they'd have to be used really sparingly aka only in engineering or else it would kinda ruin the whole point of floors
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>>181700810
>b e i g e
>nah just kidding we're matte nickel now
>ship just kind of blends together
>ugly shading on most of the resprites
>faux isometric shit
Everything just looks so fucking weird I hate it.
I don't understand how all these hispanic kids can put up with all that on top of the rhythm game tickrate and shitty staff who won't shut the fuck up in OOC.
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>>181701286
>The whole point of floors
>Hiding electrical wires and pipes, neither of which will be able to be hidden beneath glass flooring
>they'd have to be used only in engineering
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my faggot cousin is now sitting next to me playing hippiestation while I do fucking nothing because admins dont want us to metagame

He starting giggling uncontrollably when he walked past the graffiti that said "captain is condom"

He's so fucking retarded
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>>181702028
>Hiding electrical wires and pipes, neither of which will be able to be hidden beneath glass flooring

didn't know that, thought it meant that you could see through the floor at the wires and pipes below it
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>>181702043
Go play on a different server.
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>>181701304
The LOOC is even worse. Last time I was there I just killed myself in briefing and never returned.
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>>181702043
robust he IC and then IRL and later suicide succumb yourself fag
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>>181702392
can't, admins won't let me play since I'm from the same IP

update: he quit because he said nothing was happening, and left to play on baystation as a shaft miner
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Hello /ss13g/
Please remember that it's all okay
You're all gonna make it
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now he's fucking watching 4chan thread simulators
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>>181694814
Souhei
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>>181703169
Why don't you play on /vg/? Admins were on my shit quicker than I could even ahelp when me and brother joined from the same IP I still have a note from that even though he doesn't play anymore but should be fine as long as you speak IC and don't metacomm.
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>>181683903
an appearance ban wouldn't do anything, an appearance ban does nothing to stop shitter behaviour.
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The only thing /vg/ admins actually admin is nonantag killing, metacoms, ock ick and ick ock.
Otherwise it's a hippy station shitfest.
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>toxins are not the problem, players are
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>>181703652
Of course a nigger doesn't take responsibility for their actions. Top class.
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>>181703652
>why do people playing the clown griefing game for the purposes of griefing abuse a specific mechanic shown to cause the most actual grief amongst'd've other players?
>I mean we could actually try to use administrative action to punish specific players that are starting to cause problems for a change but naaaaaahhhhhhh man let's just remove even more content instead fuck it who cares anymore
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>>181703652
>Implying that's wrong
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I just realised something
>Glass floors
>can see wiring and piping under it
>if there are no lattices, the shit just fucking floats in space
Yeah that's too far. That's so bad and incredibly dumb. If you're gonna not have anything under the glass floor to support it, then it shouldn't support wires or pipes.
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>>181704945
pipes can be built and 'wrenched down' onto space tiles to be fair
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>>181705039
Ehh I guess pipes aren't much of a problem, they're rigid and whatever but wiring?
That's a big no no.
I would prefer if pipes required latticing to be placed unless its like a thermal transfer pipe or something though.
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>>181704945
>>181705196
If by itself sure. wires could be connected to pipes though
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>get my once a week tator
>fuck yeah!!!
>other tator murderbones and ends the round in 10 minutes
Heh, epic.
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>>181707427
>join lowpop round so I can build stuff
>bombed
heh
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>>181674554
this is when you fax the command to ask to enact the ultraman protocol or engage the auxilary shuttle engines in the office you bayby
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GUNO FUCKING DEADMINNED
http://ss13.moe/forum/viewtopic.php?f=38&p=20492&sid=b1a0a99c2637bb3be561bfcb3ae4c7be#p20492
THIS IS NOT A FUCKING DRILL, IM BEING 100% SERIOUS. MR "CHRISTOPHER SMITHYMAN" PAIN12 HAS JUST DEADMINNED GUNOSAGUKI

[01:19:54] Smittymin PM to-Gunosaguki/(Flash): Im deadminning you
[01:19:56] Player PM from-Gunosaguki/(Flash): wow
[01:20:02] Player PM from-Gunosaguki/(Flash): If thats how it is then go right ahead
[01:20:42] Player PM from-Gunosaguki/(Flash): I work deadmin hours since its suiting me currently and get bitched for wanting to do SOMETHING other than observing
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>>181708105
I still don't get how he even got admin in the first place, but I can now say I'm not gonna miss him. God bless mrpain.
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>>181708105
I was salty from the abruptness of it. But I'm fine with it since I honestly Should have submitted a deadmin request a week or two ago. Other than a few nights, I've been busy recently. and I'm only gonna be getting more busy in a week or so

And for those that don't want to dig the logs: I was silliconing during extended while admin'd since at round start I was the only player online.

>>181708264
Because I've been on the server for several years and had almost nothing bad on my notes. There are far worse people than me that have been admin'd. You need to remember it is volunteer work so they're going to take people unless they have a history of shittery.
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*blocks your path*
Heard you were playing while adminned, mind explaining yourself?
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>>181708352
You were a shitty admin. I'm surprised you weren't deadminned after they found out you use your admin powers to get large artifacts.
Not to mention rejuvenating yourself because you died in a vault.
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>>181708606
I've never once used admin powers to get large artifacts

that second one is true, though the context is skewed due to how disconnected from the round I was at the time and was about to log out
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>>181708352
How does it feel to know no one ever actually liked you and people found you so insufferable they stopped using the main discord voices chat because you kept joining?
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>>181708685
That doesn't matter lmfao. Holy shit. How did you ever get admin
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>you can be removed from admin for being a silicon while your admin powers are on
I don't get it. I thought admins/mods were to be impartial overseers, why would it matter what role they're in?
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>>181708875
>admins
>impartial
Lmfao.
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>>181708750
All i remember was people asking me to drawfag for them constantly. Didn't sound like they disliked me. also that was only a span of 3-4 days so I think you may be exagerating just a bit.

>>181708875
It gives you round knowledge you shouldn't have. In this case I did it because 1. it was extended and 2. I was the only admin online at round start.

But rules are rules and I broke them
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>>181708875
"You will not play command, security, silicon, or antagonist roles while adminning.
Next time I see logs of any of that shit happening, Im just going for a no warning deadminning."

This is in the memo every admin sees everytime they log in. It's guno's fuck up.
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>>181709005
Yeah, It may not make much sense in some cases, but it is a rule.
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>>181708981
Except it has been going on for months...
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>>181708105

>I work deadmin hours since its suiting me currently and get bitched for wanting to do SOMETHING other than observing
>get bitched for wanting to do SOMETHING other than observing
>do SOMETHING other than observing

when you become admin, you don't play the game anymore. you just make sure the game runs right, especially if you are solomin.

don't become a admin if you prefers playing vidya
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>>181709407

What, Voice? I only participated in voice for a few days. and its been months since then. You can't blame me for everything
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>>181709693
You can play and admin, if you are playing a really non-important role and not really doing anything.
But if you really want to play you should deadmin.
Ahelps go to the discord don't forget, and guno could easily have relayed that he's playing the round and can't do ahelps the round and asked if anyone could come on. If not he'd just have to read them when the round ends and sort out what he can then.
But instead he decided to disgard all this shit, and the big admin memo and be an idiot anyway.
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>>181708981
>>181709005
I'm not arguing against the rule, i'm asking why it's in place when a "Game master" has knowledge of the round while they're ingame. It shouldn't matter if they're antag or whatnot, you're not supposed to act on any information obtained "OOC" or in deadchat. Same reason ghosts "forget" everything they see while dead when they come back to life, logically anything a Game Master sees while doing admin work would be "forgotten" upon returning to his/her body same as ghost players.

It's just inconsistent you know? The fact that 0 trust/faith is placed on them during rounds makes me even more untrusting of them as people in a position of power since they're "clearly" not trustworthy enough to impartially handle issues in a round, why would they be trusted to be impartial outside of the round?
If there's a conflict of interest in something, they'd do what every player does and ahelp the issue or not take on the ahelp in question if there's a possibility of personal stake in it.

All that being said I don't ahelp anything anymore though after getting a permaban for asking if retaliation would be an IC issue or a rule break. Sure the permaban was removed after appealing it on the forums and the admin said he "overreacted" due to my previous notes.

>>181709776
yes they can, it's an anonymous image board.
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>>181709693
My only guess is there were admins abusing their game knowledge int he round

But thats more of an issue of them as admins, now isn't it

>>181709896
True, won't make it sound any less stupid though
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>I never play any head roles or silicons
>I never validhunt, mostly mine/xenoarch or build stuff
>I work at a psychiatric hospital so I'm used to dealing with autism

Please stop making the admin position fit me to the T. It hurts to consider.
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>pain brings the pain yet again
Toe the line and get shot, simple as that
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>>181709119
https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/6jijbi/i_feel_dragoon_needs_help_with_transitions/

>tfw can't even play one of the easiest classes in the game.
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>>181710841
>reddit
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>>181710841
>can't do decent DPS even though summoner does around 4k with a TWO MINUTE rev up time to their burn phase
HAHAHA WHAT
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>>181710841
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>>181710646
Thats funny, Because thats mostly the same as me. I rarely sillicon except when I want minimum effort playtime

>>181710841
Hey now I never said anything about being unable to play the class in that post.
>>181710961
I'm..... not really sure what kind of meme you're trying to make here. Dragoon is the worst melee dps in terms of output now.
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I wish I had a boyfriend
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>>181711035
I regularly get dragoons doing 3.5k+ in my ex groups. You are just garbage. Lowest common denominator.
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>>181670928
Just know how to build everything, where stuff is, and do all the jobs. Antagging is basically just doing things in the reverse order or a job with malicious intent.
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>>181711110
Tell me about yourself
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>>181711124
yes, that is dragoon dps currently. It's still lower than Ninja, Samurai, and Monk.

Reading comprehension anon. all of MELEE dps. Lowest DPS currently is Machinist
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https://www.reddit.com/user/Dragonbro
Holy fuck deadmin dragonbro, look at this reddit shit! He's such a redditor, holy fuck deadmin????
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>>181711035
Hey dude don't stress it and don't bother posting here,what's done is done and you laid your case, People in this thread will just keep trying to agitate and fuck with you now no matter what you say.
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>>181711175
Ninja does 3.6. Samurai and monk are around equal. You are garbage, end it.
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>>181672192
>Ghetto chem flash powder, flashbang, secure the brig flashers in the hall, blinder's, ghetto chem emp, or steal one of the billion flashes
>Can even steal the sci uranium for an instant borg kill
>They're a helpless bitch as you toolbox them to death
>Sacid is everywhere and can be ghetto chem'd numerous ways
>Circuit imprinters everywhere
>ID's are everywhere
I'm not gonna pretend borgs aren't pretty strong and can be "healed" incredibly quickly from horrific damage, but by and large they're more vulnerable than a normal person to stun and done.
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>>181711175
What did he mean by this
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Is there any gun that lets you de-limb people without putting them to crit right away?

It'd be fun to shoot off someone's arm or leg off
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>>181711175
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>>181711442
A recent change made it so that people lose all of the damage to their being if the damaged limb is severed. So you can axe/shotgun someone in the foot a couple times and they'll be well and good, except for the missing foot.

Just hope that random chance doesn't make your hit go to the chest or some other body part.
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>>181711346
don't forget the common everyday camera of unavoidable silicon only aoe stun
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>>181711245

Ninja does about 250-400 more than dragoon currently on average. Samurai does on average 400 more than monk, which is only 100-200 more than ninja

Being honest though I'm new to dragoon in SB. I'm moving from Ninja since Our machinist is throwing a fit over his 5% piercing buff. I'm praying for buffs to DRG and MCH for the sake of raiding

But i need to go to sleep so we can stop shitting up ss13 general with ffxiv shit
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>>181681469
Most people go easy on antags with actually decent gimmicks. Don't be a faggot.
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>>181711442
plasma cutter and advanced plasma cutter can.
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>>181711632
Have you even tried killing the Susano or Lakshmi EX dummies? If you can kill those, you do enough dps. Stop treating DPS as a dick waving contest for bigger numbers.

Dragoon also brings the eye which buffs another DPS, and battle litany. Personal dps isn't the only thing most jobs bring to the group.

Dumb redditor.
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>>181711110
find yourself one then baka
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>>181711685
final post because i keep getting distracted from sleep

Ninja gives trick attack and shade walker. DRG's current party utility in my opinion isn't quite enough to make up for their lower DPS.

Also My post on reddit was particularly a complaint about lakshmi EX and her stupid transition where you can hit nothing for 45+ seconds.

for real though. sleep. I won't be replying anymore tonight
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>>181682581
The new wears off and it gets boring.

>>181682960
>>181683360
As a matter of practice, one recipient communication or communication with the warden and anyone camping consoles should be done via pda. Also honestly, just hack it open and shoot them open with your lethals. If you say b-b-but we don't have lethals! you need to git fukken gud before you talk shit about other people.
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>>181711805
Trick attack isn't as much raid dps as Battle Litany + Eye
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>>181683903
Just gather logs and make the ban request then.
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>>181709896
I don't think it's that we can't trust them. My reasoning was that you can do what you want, but it's much easier to prove someone meta'd than to prove they didn't, and admins are going to be held to a higher standard and are under more scrutiny than your average player. By that logic, head roles, antag roles, security roles, and silicon roles are all dangerous to play while adminned because logically, you're going to kill people or otherwise have access to information that would let you easily get valids, prevent valids, essentially 'win'.

Players tend to become salty when they get killed or their antag round dunked- for example, if you play HoS as an admin and you catch a tator tot by acting on vague evidence, it's much easier to point out the HoS could figure out who was an antag via their flags, than a subtle piece of evidence that isn't specifically logged.

As another, AI gets to float around as the AI Eye- it's just as easy for the admin to wave off that they used flags to get some kind of info as it is to imply they just happened to float by while something antagonistic or human harm related occurred.

Again, it's harder to prove something did not happen rather than something did happen. I'd say if you played Assistant as an Admin and someone happened to begin to murder you and you totally had the upper hand, that you might ought to just let them kill on account of all the trouble it might cause you.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Guno I think has done stuff like this before as well.
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Whats the secret way to get most of the time antag? Heard something about recreating your character everytime before the round starts.
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>>181711996
If a secret's out it's no longer a secret desu
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>>181690874
Stop fucking avatarfagging
You can charcoal, explosion, or smoke it out of them if there isn't a specific antidote.
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>>181692038
I don't like rin more than anyone but it's important for the rest of the dept to stay in contact and to patrol in groups or at least watch cameras. Don't be officer if you don't want to do officer shit.
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>>181695793
Not greytide per se. You just need to spend time learning how to source and use substandard gear. After that you'll want to move to clown to get used to the clumsy gene to get around the good gear crutch.
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>>181709896
>you're not supposed to act on any information obtained "OOC" or in deadchat
It's not that simple.
Once you know information, you can't un-know it. For example if you know that some guy's an antag, as Security, you now have to either actively NOT keep tabs on him, even moreso than you would have otherwise, leading to you being a less effective officer, or you can keep tabs on him but try not to do it "too much" which is difficult because how do you judge how much is too much? The line between "regular security officer keeping an eye out for a random dude" and "security officer paying special attention to someone he knows is guilty" is fuzzy.

It's just a lot easier for everyone involved, playing admins included, for them to not have their admin powers active while playing important roles.
Trying to not metagame when you've already been exposed to the information is a burden, it's easier to just not be exposed to the information in the first place.
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>>181704945
yes, because modeling adhesive straps is a top priority. stop reaching
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>guy on /tg/ spent all round feeding people pills that turned them into robots
>not an antag
>bragged about it in deadchat at round end
>nothing happened to him
every day i grow more and more surprised at the grief you can get away with there.
There was a big discussion in deadchat about how admins should intervene with things and there was so much stuff which is just... pure griefing and they were all going "thats an IC issue."
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>>181711562
Yeah I said blinder's
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http://www.strawpoll.me/6753494/

WHO WILL WIN
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>>181712058
Scientist fucking suck dick Mechanics is the genetically superior occupation.
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>>181712451
>Eating anything that hasn't gone through a cup or a mortar
That's darwinism son
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>>181711562
>camera flash stuns borgs

Holy shit is this an actual thing? I didn't even know cameras had flashes in this game
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>>181712676
no he was forcefeeding people them, like taking them and making them eat it
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>>181712716
They were unrobust and deserved it if caught
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>>181712698
http://ss13.moe/wiki/index.php/Makeshift_weapons#Blinder

>>181712716
Don't bend over and take it like a bitch then.It shows up on the health analyzer and you can go get copper long before it procs. Even if you don't you start getting the messages which only a retard ignores. it's darwinism.
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>>181712698
Not by default, but you can add a bulb, wires, and power cell to a camera in order to give it that ability.
Using the camera then blinds every mob on screen for a second (except those with eye protection), as well as stuns all borgs on screen. Each use uses some of the cell's power and requires the bulb to be replaced.
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http://ss13.moe/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&p=20498&sid=419b387a225943f495e2e367a9d0de7a
Squidmoko trialadmin application.
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>>181712842
done
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>>181711941
If you're the HoS and you caught a tator on "vague" evidence it doesn't matter if you're adminned or a regular player, you'll get warned/noted because "It could have just as easily been a regular player"

>>181712335
I guess it could be hard for some. You need a particular mindset for SS13 and that involves being able to switch on a dime. One minute you're fighting a wizard to the death and literally a second later you're fighting as a thrall to protect that wizard.
So to me it is as easy as "Forgetting" it happened and as result, I don't adjust anything I do.
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>>181712831
actually the bulb is for reloading, by default it has a bulb in and you only need a screwdriver, cable and battery to fuck borgs and they can't do jack shit about it

they also fit in boxes, plastic bags and pockets
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>>181712976
>So to me it is as easy as "Forgetting" it happened and as result, I don't adjust anything I do.
That's the thing. It's not a matter of being clean. It's a matter of looking clean, too. And the best way to do that is to deadmin instead of being a nonce and playing important shit while adminned.
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>>181712842
>carshalash viewing this thread

You're banned son, SIT YOURSELF DOWN.
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>>181712976
Not at all. By vague evidence, I'm leaning more towards things that are not logged, which you could very well act on and could be proven as long as the round was active, but once the round was over, there would be insufficient logs to prove one way or the other, because lots and lots of things aren't logged.
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>>181713121
I still think banned players should not be allowed in the discord.
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>>181713248
I still think permabanned players should stay off the github
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>>181712976
You need to also worry about appearances, though.
Blind trust in the administration is bad because if an asshole does manage to become an admin, they'd get free reign of the place. So players need to hold admins accountable for shit they do that looks sketchy.
The problem is, barring absolute trust, a lot of circumstances in which an admin with active admin powers is playing an important role like command or security can look sketchy.
This is an issue not only for the players who would constantly be paranoid about admins abusing their powers, but also for admins who would be afraid to take certain courses of action for fear that it looks like they're abusing their powers.

Even if no actual improper behavior is taking place, the possibility is there. And since, for example, you can't prove whether a Security Officer walked into a room and stumbled upon a changeling succing a victim just because he felt like checking that room, or because he saw an attack log stating that someone in that room was getting fucked up, I think allowing admins playing as Security Officers and such to see things related to their admin powers, like attack logs and reagent transfer logs, would only cause paranoia and unrest among players and admins alike.
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>>181712842
Leave me alone you nerd.
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>>181713308
This, you have to be deadminned if you're in a role that has any impact on the round. Knowing the cmo is a vampire or an officer got autotraitor'd is gonna fuck shit up. You can't just sock that away

>>181713387
If carsh can't play, nobody can play
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>>181713121
Nah.
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>>181713248
>>181713307
I agree, let's appeal to mrpain to ban those shitters. Banned players can't play on the test serb, why can they post on github, forum (outside of appeals) or the discord.
>>181713387
Hope you get admin moko. You're a good kid.
>>181713476
>is permabanned
GET DUSTED.
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>>181713562
I agree with github. If I was in charge of that place I would holocaust it.
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>>181712842
seems legit
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>>181713562
While I think a ban on the github is acceptable, don't you think a discord one is going too far? I mean, even though they are banned shitters, even the devil has friends.
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>>181713630
Github is a place of ideas. Let the words stand, not the identity of their source. If you can't refute an argument without resorting to "x said it!" you can git fukt'd
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>>181713671
The discord is for the community for the server.
If they're banned from the server, permentantly, they're banned from the community, are they not?
Even if they have friends, they can talk to their friends elsewhere. They shouldn't be someone where the community is based around something they can't play because they were such a detriment they were banned.
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If sarcalogo can make dakimakura pr's while banned on /tg/ then whats the big deal?
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>>181713687
I agree with you, but you shouldn't be able to influence the code of a server you literally can't play. Github should be for the players BY the players.
>>181713671
Discord is for the server. For the players BY the players.
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>>181713687
Except, being that it is a Github for a video game, many decisions come down to how many people like a thing vs how many people don't like a thing. An entirely subjective matter, which cannot be effectively argued.
Permabanned players who cannot experience the content being proposed should not have a say in whether the content is added.
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>>181713808
But not everyone you oppose can just be banned Nexis
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>>181713747
>where the community is based around something they can't play
The majority of the main Discord's channels are not related to the server or even SS13 as a whole.
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>>181713867
The people on this list can.
ss13.moe/index.php/bans
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>>181713894
That doesn't matter. The discord is a gathering place for people from the server, to interact with people and the admins they play with, about either the game or something else.
People who are banned from the server shouldn't be in that kind of circle.
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It's actually better for a permabanned shitter to not use the discord, better chance of being unbanned.

Morena was in the discord, got denied twice. Now left the discord because she knows there is a better chance of an appeal.
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>>181713671
They were already metagaming in a separate channel, a discod ban does nothing

>>181713779
Not really. Good content is good content. A bugfix is a bugfix. And pointing out how something is good or bad has nothing to do with who says it. If it's just shitposting, nobody ever gives a shit in autismo town.

>>181713808
>He fell for the emojiocracy meme
It only comes down to votes when an overwhelming case for or against, often because the issue itself is pure dudeopinionslmao or theorycrafting, isn't made. If that's the case, whatever happens if it doesn't go well it can simply get reverted which is fine.
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>>181713687
I'd agree with you but I have read stuff on there. It all devolves into memes or other stupid shit. Especially if goofball shows up.

Like I said I would holocaust it. Having an opinion is having an opinion. Screaming "Slippery slope!" or "Power creep!" is not.
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>>181714032
>And pointing out how something is good or bad has nothing to do with who says it.
It does if it's an opinion.
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>>181712976
>Watch someone over cameras because admin logs tell you he's a traitor and then see him do traitor shit
>Press F6 to open the Player-Panel-New and it'll tell you if someone's an antag as soon as you hover over them, as well as their current displayed name and real name (breaking any attempts at disguise)
>Show-Server-Log to open current round logs completely invisibly
>Open your own Player Panel to see what every block is to cut off work as geneticist
>VV plants to see their genes or whatever I haven't really done xenobotany since before botany3
>VV turfs to access their air mixture
I'd like to trust people, but it's a lot easier not to and at the same time show the playerbase admins should be held accountable.
Pic: Second time opening logs on a local server with Show-Server-Log. The other way is .getserverlog but this one actually *is* logged. Nothing about "has accessed today's logs" or whatever.
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>>181714065
Banning people who disagree with you, which will happen in such an aspergers forest, is going to run away from us.
Slippery slope or power creep is a legitimate argument, and one that the intended point he tried to make but couldn't articulate better needs to be addressed. The borg grippers is a good example.

>>181714107
If you can't address the meat of the matter instead of resorting to attacking who said it you can get fucked.

>>181714191
Plant gene's aren't masked anymore from what I heard.
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>>181714314
Oh yeah, so they aren't.
Isn't that nice
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>>181714314
>instead of resorting to attacking who said it
It's not about attacking them.
If what they say is their personal opinion regarding the matter, and they are currently banned from experiencing any of the content on the server, then their opinion regarding the content literally does not matter.
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>>181714314
>Banning people who disagree with you, which will happen in such an aspergers forest, is going to run away from us.
You make it sound like it isn't already happening. N3X15 has already banned people from our Github.
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>>181714314
Have you even been there? Legit opinions is fine. The whole power creep and slippery slope has reached meme levels unsurpassed.

Simple QoL things never see the light of day because some autist doesnt like it and buries it under a mountain of shit posts.
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>>181714392
And there exactly is the problem with banning people you disagree with. Dudeopinionslmao is a very wide pool and it gets even wider when the person claming it is an autistic fuck who can't take criticism of their flawless creation.

>>181714446
Pretty much all of just goofball which after all the buggy half-implemented code he'd add then abandon leaving pomf/nexis to have to fix or tear it back out fuck him.

>>181714473
All the time. "Legit" is a very vague term and under your own preference I'd shitcan you so hard your hard drive would spontaneously combust then form a star.
Get your head out of your ass. power creep is a serious concern as people continue to lurch towards amassing full autonomy from every other job and every fucking week there's proof of the slippery slope as people go hey look at overpowered x, this is why you can't deny me adding overpowered y.
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>>181714446
Name 3 that aren't Kolith
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Man there are some weirdos on citadel.
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>>181714627
Goofball, Plapatine, and DrCelt.
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>>181714737
Plapatin was banned? What's his github name?
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>>181714606
You seem to misunderstand me. That is all they yell. They do not add anything to the convo. They just bitch and bitch and do not add anything of value. No x is wrong or y needs to be changed. Just scream power creep and that is it.

It would be different and fine if they yelled slippery slope and said WHY it is. But most autists dont even spend the time to type that and rather insult others that do not agree with them. So pull your head out of your ass.
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>>181671646
I'm not sure how to feel about this. Yeah it'd be nice for engieborgs to be able to pick up plasma tanks so they can actually start the engines or build an APC. Or mediborgs do a full organ/limb replacement surgery without help. It's a big stumbling block, especially for engieborgs. And the service borg might be a bit less useless if it could do things like use a microwave or grow plants.
But on the other hand borgs are supposed to be limited, monofunctional things that are supposed to be outclassed by the meatbags at any given job. Back in ye olde tymes borging was a punishment or way to make feckless greyshirts do something useful. Look at MoMMIs, you don't need a flesh and blood engineer if there's a ventcrab crawling about, sending borgs down the same route seems like a bad idea.
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>>181714807
Nevermind, looks like the image I'm looking at is of Discord bans, not repo bans.
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>>181714870
And like I said, I think they're autistic and terrible at forming an argument but it doesn't change that instead of trying to wall it out or even quit by resorting to banning them you address the intent of the argument by tackling where there could be power creep or the continued slippery slope. Take the gripper's for example which is both heavy power creep and the empowerment slippery slope.
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>>181714870
Slippening slope.

The last time I heard that particular phrase was with the skel speed boost thing. One hundred and fifty fucking percent skel speed, when the thing that justified skel being roundstart in the first place was how shitty and nerfed they were. What a way that was slipped, until pomf removed them from roundstart to compensate.
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>>181714982
I agree with you there. I just wish there was lest screeching about nothing. Most of the posts just come down to insulting someone because it hurts their feelings or THEY do not think it is right. Some people on there get more pull then others even when out weighed by the majority.
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I don't get why the discussion about me on the github is a thing, I kinda passed on doing the nutrition buffing thing while banned to keep you nibbas chill.
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>>181715090
Look, you gotta take the world as it is, not how you want it to be. Address the intent of their argument instead of ignoring or wanting them banned.
VERY RARELY IS IT ACTUALLY ABOUT "NOTHING". You need to understand that you are doing the exact same thing you hate them for but you don't realize it because it's your own shit opinion. Every person is going to have different experiences and values that affects what "nothing" is to them and god knows it's not the same as yours. If you cannot make an argument for or against the issue more substantial than dude m-muh values m-muh experiences, m-muh priorities you can't bitch about others doing the same. Cause that's what you're asking for. Making an echo chamber for YOU because someone hurts YOUR feelings or YOU think this is the only way to go. You're no better than them. Shrug it off, look for the intent of their spergout and tackle the meat. Try to view it from values and perspectives that aren't yours.
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>>181714191
It's both good and bad.
On the good side it protects the admins and reassures players there's no admin fuckery going on. On the bad side it shows that admins don't trust other admins not to abuse their position of power. which extends to how can players trust admins to properly admin on issues if they can't be trusted to not cheat ingame?

It works both ways and the issue is that it's "non-negotiable no exceptions". Kinda like if you ban a player and say "any appeals you make will be automatically ignored and deleted". Immediate action to prevent immediate issues is fine, but things should be discussed with others regardless of how high in power the person who made the initial decision is. This kind of communication not only improves communication from an administration standpoint, but also improves community communication as a byproduct since you'll be communicating on public issues more often.
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>>181715315
Ey, you're banned. I'm not banned and I'm a bigger shitter than you. :)
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>>181715460
>it shows that admins don't trust other admins not to abuse their position of power
Why should they?
The way you become an admin is by posting a forum thread that says "I want to be an admin." By and large, admins have no way to be sure that you won't turn into an asshole once you get ahold of that power.
>which extends to how can players trust admins to properly admin on issues if they can't be trusted to not cheat ingame?
We don't, and we shouldn't. That's why we have things like ban appeals and deadmin requests.
If we trusted admins to properly admin we wouldn't need to argue their decisions.
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>>181715576
Apologyman?
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>Did the following PDA message: Message from Cluwn (?) (Cyborg), "((Are we antag))"
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>Dorf
Time for literally all consoles and things crammed into one room
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I don't think you people understand just how much information we admins get just passively from the chat feed.
We know about every single important thing that happens on station from passive logs.

You'd have to tip toe around so much information that it would be near impossible to play properly.
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>>181715460
I don't think players *should* trust admins not to be dicks with flags. Admins are given the ability to severely affect the round and to remove players' abilities to play the game on our server. In return, the players must be the ones responsible for removing admins that can't be trusted to do this responsibly.
Whether admins trust admins doesn't really matter here. The watchers can't be trusted to watch the watchers, so everyone else must. It's the same reason I think admin actions is one of the most important things to log - the players *must* be able to judge the admins.
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>>181716285
lack of trust eventually turns to toxic paranoia. There needs to be some form of trust, whether this is the server owner, headmin, or some random named player that fights for justice.
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>>181714024
I left partly because people kept saying "you only joined the discord to kiss ass" which I didn't, I joined to talk with the people I liked there. I missed shooting shit with some of the people.
And then the other part was because I found out the people I enjoyed talking to apparently didn't like me anyway but wouldn't tell me themselves. No point staying somewhere to chat when you aren't welcome. I might be crazy but I'm not an autist.
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>>181713987
All this'll do is force the players to make another discord server to hang out with those that got banned.
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>>181716241
That's the intent, yeah. Singuloose, gunshot, separating vital organs, deconning a floor, pouring pacid into a beaker (seriously stop pouring plasma and acids and stuff 5u at a time please god it kills me), planting a seed that's going to exude gas, pushing in law boards, emagging a borg, it all goes directly to the chat. Throw ahelps onto that and you have a big pile of meta.
Which is all not to muddy the waters or anything, because admins *are* trusted to be able to handle these. It's why you're allowed to play assistant or bartender or whatever while adminned, but they've long ago drawn the line at head, sec, AI, borg, and antag. I think it was originally to establish some trust with the players, but I know Probe and Pain dislike playing while adminned in general specifically *because* of the vast amount of information you get.

>>181716594
I'm not so sure allowing admins to play these roles (which are important for round progression and are also more important than other roles regarding incomplete information) is going to result in more trust.
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>>181716716
apologyman already made another discord to only invite his friends, it's not something new.
i'm pretty sure there are already like 5 offshoots.
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>>181716603
>drama at all times around you
>for some reason people don't tell you they don't like you
Its almost like these two are connected
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>>181716603
>I missed shooting shit with some of the people.
Then why did you remove and block most of your friends and isolate yourself?
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>>181716603
Won't put out? I'll push you out.
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>>181717168
i can deal with people not liking me if they make it clear and i tend to try and stay away from them then because i dont actually enjoy getting in aggro
but its different when someone who doesnt like you starts the aggro, i get riled up easily, yeah.
>>181717180
cause reasons that are too bloggy
>>181717562
what

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khMb3k-Wwvg
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>>181689646
Isn't Isaac the one with the crazy torture sadist fetish?
Good luck souhei.
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>>181716779
>(seriously stop pouring plasma and acids and stuff 5u at a time please god it kills me)
How else are you supposed to chem?
update your home to the death barrier you whinny trialmin
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>>181717719
niqqa you pulled aggro, you ducked it up for all of us. too impatient, no wonder nobody wants to raid with you.
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Is this normal for dwarf fort to be on the roid?
I thought it was supposed to work from 0 literally
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>When security searches you on code green
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>>181718012
it's always been on roid
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>>181717719
A D D
M E
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G R I N D E R
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>>181708105
>becoming Admin is a giant scam and totally shit
Who would've guessed?
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>>181718306
He was kind of a shitty admin.
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>>181717831
>Isn't Isaac the one with the crazy torture sadist fetish?

I might be wrong, but i remember this one time i got caught as a traitor and i ended up with a gender re-assing operation, butt on my face and dressed in maid clothes as a punishment from the captain. I don't remember if it was Isaac tho.
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>>181718109
suspicious behavior warrants searches :^)
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>>181716779
I do it just for you.
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>>181718109
Got any sauce for that pic?
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>>181717952
>trialmin
baka
Either way, it's bearable and not really a big deal, it just looks like pic
I know you can alt-click the beaker to change its transfer rate (which you'd have to since the default transfer is 10u, not 5u) but I'm not really expecting people to do that. I'm not seriously telling people "you better set your beaker transfer rate properly >:|" you know, it's just jokes
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>>181717831
It's not a fetish he's just trying to do antagging that isn't old and boring

>>181718109
Ever since any head couldn't elevate to blue anymore it's kosher. You also forfeit any protections when you break the law or engage in suspicious behavior.
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>>181718547
I want kammer to WAKE UP
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>>181718547
>tfw you play locally to test some shit and you're spamming yourself with logs
It's the fastest way to redpill yourself out of shitter behavior
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>>181715562
>tfw uploading RP laws to validhunting shittycons

They have no choice but to shut up and do it.
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>>181718441
I like his antagging, it doesn't kill me directly and I get a small chance to get rescued by people who accidently walk by.
On the other hand, I've been victim to it two times now and I think a third time might be a bit too much.
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>>181718516
I got you senpai, you see what you want to do is grill some form of meat for quite some time. You wait until it gets nice and cooked and quickly serve it onto the plate. With the fond remaining on the pan you have a few options of what you do with the sauce, if it something like steak you could add in some red wine to deglaze the pan, if chicken/fish I would personally go with white wine, pork I tend to mix things up and use different fruit juices, apple and orange tend to always go quite well.

You leave the sweet liquid reducing for a bit in the pan, you want to try and use a either a wooden spoon or a rubber/silicon spatula to make sure to get all of the fond into the sauce. Once it has reduced to a level you find like able you splash in some stock, depending on if its something you have made yourself or just store brought can make all the difference. You proceed to do the same thing of reducing until it has reached a consistency that you like, once that happens you pour it over your meat and enjoy a lovely meal. You could also always try to add in herbs or spices to help however everyone has different tastes so I can't give any solid suggestions with that. Hope you enjoyed the guide on how to make sauce anon.
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>>181718109
Yeah it's called No RP, no escalation, pure hippy.
Gotta get dem valids.
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>>181718883
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>>181718109
>when you're miner or some fuckoff job and you get searched like 4 times in the same shift on code green
>suspicious behavior XD

Apparently you can't even fucking refuse even if it's code green. If you do, suspicious behavior, tasecuff he.
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>when cargo puts the pizza outside your reach
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>>181719135
>tfw 5'1
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>>181719085
Dude, you signed your contract. If you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear. If you aren't looking like you should, if you aren't doing what you should be doing where you should be you're gonna get fingerfucked until you didn't leave your traitor gear behind
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>>181719160
Hi sandy sand
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>>181719171
>not even antag
>apparently mining and delivering materials is suspicious

Fuck off.
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>>181719160
And I thought *I* was short
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>>181719135
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>>181719160
>tfw 4'10
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>>181719221
I wasn't there so I don't know your specific case but miners are on station when: they're delivering, they're dead, or they're about to fuck everything up and need their butt plumbed
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>>181719291
>tfw 4'13
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>>181719309
Can't you just up the code if you're going to be paranoid niggers?
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>>181719291
WHO IS JOHN MIDNIGHT
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Do you get a ding dong if you see random people going into lonely rooms roundstart and then decide to check out solars/science outpost/maint nests a couple minutes in?
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>>181719364
What did I fucking say motherfucker

The other heads can no longer just up it to blue
Criminals have no protection
If you are behaving suspiciously in any way you have no protection
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>Tfw Matthew 5:4
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>>181719423
Suspicious behavior is suspicious behavior
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>>181719441
Oh right, it's the everyone is guilty until proven wrong.

I was wondering why people began playing sec again, admins being lenient.
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>>181719291
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>>181719575
You
Signed
The
Contract

Deal. If you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear.
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>>181719638
>hurr contract
>this allows officers to pester me 24/7

If that's the way you want to play then ok, I mean it's the way admins intended after all. Funny thing is meanwhile they were random searching like cucks, a ling ended the round with like 15 succs.
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>>181719638
I suppose "the contract" being whatever you want it to be makes it easier.
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>>181718229
i dont have grinder
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>>181719747
There is nothing that is going to catch a ling other than someone running into it or being on the camera when the grab hits or the retard leaving a fat sack of shit he shouldn't have when the only two officers that buddy up search him. God help you if he's only doing maint memecuff, sensors off and succ long enough to get deathsting. Grow up.
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>>181719957
It's fine, you're the kind of shitter that ends up like digitalis and the like after enough people get tired of them. I've been patient to deal with these, same with you.
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>>181720305
6 years and counting dude. You're gonna be waiting a lot longer
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How tall is your static?

My female static is 5'9!
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>>181720616
6'
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>>181720616
My character walks like me, talks like me, and thinks like me because I'm the easiest person for me to resemble.
I guess it'd make sense if it also had my height
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>>181720616
2'
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>>181720616
6'2 giant bird
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create some /vg/station lore
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>>181720616

5'8" 122lbs
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>>181721125
no
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>>181721125
I'm not crazy, I had to kill all those other people cause they're changelings from the teegee sektor and cremation was the only way to be sure
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>>181721329
Thank mr. skelton, that's a few more than I am and I'm a bit under that
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>>181721125
Everyone but me are revolutionary cultists and therefore valid
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>>181721125
All grays are actually gay for humans
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>>181720616
5'2"

>>181721329
>tfw used to actually be 6' and 135lbs
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>>181721756
Hi Shiggy
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>>181721756
>>tfw used to actually be 6'
did you shrink???
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>>181721756
I was 5'11 in high school and weighed about 110lb for most of it, dipped below it a lot too
not sure how I'm alive I was very frail.
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THEY ARE GIVING HANDS TO SILICONS
SILICONS ARE GOING TO STEAL YOUR JOB
ARE YOU GOING TO ALLOW THAT?
VOTE YCLAT
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>>181722930
Stop being hyperbolic you fuck. They are making hand modules. They are not being put in anything in this PR.
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Yclat and Riekland sitting in a tree,
K I S S I N G
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>>181719747
Did you ahelp it?
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>>181721329

do you ever sleep?
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>>181723489
You can't be banned for doing your job mate
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>join
>its dorf
>log out
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>>181724035
>implying ahelping means banning
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>>181724072
ick ock
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>>181724180
before you even join the game there stands fucking big "dorf round"
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>>181721723
This is true.
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>>181724072
That's fine dude. Different people like different things. You can go deathmatch elsewhere like the pubbie shitter you are.
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>>181724307
this image is really cute
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>>181724090
>Implying that isn't your intent as you play coy victim and bait as hard as you can
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>>181683363
>souhei ckey is from sore wars the old repub
>mfw I hate myself for playing swtor
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>>181724035
you can if you improperly do it. easiest example would be toxins fucking up and blowing themselves up or a medical doctor flat out refusing to administer first aid to people in the clinic

Sec isn't allowed to do random searches on a certain alert level, and on another one it can only be done with probable cause.
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>>181724359
Thank you. I think the same.
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>>181724635
Anon, Elon Musk is the guy who owns Tesla and SpaceX
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>>181724683
i thought it was a jedi perfume
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>>181724478
>implying I'm not just alerting admins to possible shittery to make their life easier so they don't have to investigate even longer later one
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>>181724738
no silly, he's one of the most successful and influential men on the planet right now.
hes working very hard to try and change the world by making humanity sustainable in the near future
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>>181724738
I think you're joking but it's really unironically cute if you're not
>Elon Musk - Bring out the Force in you
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>>181724635
Elon Musk is our generation's Einstein you fucking neet cunt. How do you not know him, watch the news once dumbshit
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>>181724652
Holy fucking shit you're a retarded nigger. Let me lay this out for you

Only CAPTAIN level access can raise the alert to blue. The same retarded grayshit with roundstart all access that is deafer than a windoor. Code red takes wrangling two literal retards which any common head player can tell you if they aren't good statics you know you're in for a hell of a time getting code red even when it does warrant it

Criminals are exempt from search protections under procedure. This is where suspicious behavior comes in. You aren't getting "randomly" searched at all.

Grow up or fuck off. Either works.

>>181724820
>He's such a big bad bully meanie admins go after him tee hee~

>>181724849
He's gushing money like a stuck pig.
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>>181725030
>>181725063

I love the contrast between these two posts
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>>181725098
he is, and he doesn't even seem to care. but he's incredibly intelligent and i'm sure he will find a way to make it all back. the tesla 3 is being mass produced soon and they will probably sell really well.
>>181725063
he isn't einstein at all, this is such a poor comparison.
elon is a humanitarian and engineer with a lot of money and influence trying to make the world a better place, einstein was an incredibly smart theoretical physicist. those two things are nothing alike
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>>181725141
I love ________you___
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>>181725141
Oh don't judge me, you
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>>181725289
but he's banging a known bunny boiler sociopath who will inevitably ruin him
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>>181725098
>mfw get the admins investigating so I can be a huge shitter
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>>181725098
>say random searches aren't allowed on safest difficulty
>NO YOURE WRONG THEY'RE ALLOWED WITH PROBABLY CAUSE
>random searches are apparently the same as random searches with probably cause
anon....
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My body is on the asteroid
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>>181725375
he's had two wives and has something like 6 children, if he isn't ruined now i don't think he ever will be.
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>>181725427
>People are searching you cause you're a sketchy fuck which is allowed under standard procedure
>This is a random search like screening cultbay for tomes and talismans
Anon... You need to pay attention in class not text and jerk off your 6 boyfriends.
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>>181725694
>Tfw don't have 6 boyfriends to form a train on you
Why even live
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>>181725427
>safest difficulty
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>>181725531
Don't know why he split with his first wife but the one he has now is model gold-digger and hates all his kids. Most of the kids are from different moms.
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>>181725917
He's an ESL. that's why he has difficulty with telling the difference between searches for literally no reason on whoever and this guy's behavior is off, lets check him
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>>181725292
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>>181725694
I barely have the stamina for one, I can't imagine the nightmare of handling six.
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>>181725941
i'm pretty sure he has twins and triplets from IVF, which is just crazy. i'm sure hes smart enough to not do something like putting a woman over his success and kids. I believe he has shared custody so he obviously cares about them a lot
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>>181726168
she looks like she has downs or something bro
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>>181726394
Looks like she likes to play with mega blocks to me.
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>>181727610
>mega blocks
>not even lego
anon..
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Can someone give me a quick rundown on goonstation?
Their wiki seems the server is really advanced
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Best MoMMi?

for me it's Bits
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>>181727932
Lego is the patrician toy. Megabloks is for the kid that isn't worth Lego.
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>>181728240
>static naming as silicon
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>>181728019
It was one of the first SS13 servers since the original leak back in like 2006-2007.
Goon is closed source while most others are open source. /tg/ and Bay were created from a public release of Gooncode.

Nowadays, Goon is vastly different from most servers. They got a lot of neat features like thinkDOS and the Adventure Zones, but it's very low RP, so don't expect anyone to be actually doing their job
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>>181728019
They were closed source and they renamed tons of shit so it seems a lot more advanced than it is.
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do another dorf on deff roid
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>>181728019
Secret chemicals, echoing farts, weird perspective, bee mascot.
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>>181726394
Even better.
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>tfw your hazard vest has a vial of medical nanobots and another vial of combat nanobots
Cum at me brahs
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>At charges of less than a megawatt, the railgun does practically no damage. It reaches 30 damage per shot at 25MW, and with enough charge it can gib instantly and pass through multiple layers of reinforced walls. At the highest possible charge, it can kill an AI within the AI core when fired all the way from Engineering.

Is there any particular reason no one builds rail guns? Are explosives that much easier?
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>late join, set up ghetto cloning, clone a grand total of 3 people, one of which was braindead
>we're on the evac shuttle and some nonantag opens the airlock door repeatedly ZASing every one out
>try to unbuckle myself to go to close the fucking door, but unbuckle the person next to me instead and he flies out the door
>the ghosts of the dead start haunting us for the rest of the shuttle ride
I'm so fucking sorry
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>>181729214
no one builds rail guns because getting an effective power out of the engine isn't happening unless you do it yourself and are autistic.
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>>181729108
If you insist
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Why is dorf always shit?
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What luck, got myself stranded at the station and hit basically every other z-level than the roid trying to get back, or I just really whiffed it when i was there. At least I got to kill a lot of stuff, surviving on spider guts and anti-toxin and managed to not die from an exploding appendix. How lethal can that be, anyway? As I said, just kept chugging anti-toxin.
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>>181729214
If you want it to be effective you need the right capacitor so you have to bother Science.
You also need to put cooled Plasma into the SME tanks and charge it before the SMES. It just takes too long to make from scratch for it to matter in roundtypes it could win like malf
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>>181729219
That was pretty much the only redeeming thing about that round.
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>>181729469
Nothing happening at all? Too little players? Large scale construction being tedious?
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>>181693223

>Observed that round
>Detective actually admitted to wanting to fuck his dad
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>>181674296
Genius
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>>181729641
I know the rail is supposed to wear out, does it wear out faster depending on how juicy of a capacitor you use?
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>>181729945
That's fine if the detective was a cute girl
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>>181730318
>his dad
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>>181726282
pfffthahaha no. I don't have the link anymore but there was an interview of him, his gold-digging wife, and the six kids. It's trailer trash levels of family cohesion watching them interact with one another.
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>>181730110
if you actually want it be good you need about 500MW in the engine. It's growth is exponential and has barely any penetration and will barely scratch people until then. It's not a matter of whether the rails wear out, it's a matter of: can you get the super capacitors from science and can you get 500MW+ out of an engine in time for it to be useful?
The answer for 90% of our players is no.
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is dorf still ongoing?
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>>181730584
wait hes dating amber heard
she got millions off her divorce with depp and is a pretty successful actress i doubt shes using him too hard
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>>181730696
>500 MW
Isn't that like fucking, bab tier shit? I thought a sing with warm plasma could make that much power.
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>>181731517
hahahahahaha
no
no no no no
that's 500KW, which is 1000x less than 500MW
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>>181730696
90% seems a bit high, when I made one I was just looking for a project as assistant and got science to give me a capacitor. I just wasn't motivated enough to get assigned to engineer or mechanic. I think in any of those positions you could get it done pretty easily.
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>>181731629
Oh okay. I can't into engineering.
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>>181731038
She didn't get millions, she didn't get a penny.

She tried to take millions, Depp's legion of fangirls were so mad her career would die. She tried to fix this by saying she's instead donate the money to charity, Depp said he'd donate it for her and gave a few million to a charity of her choice.


Musk has more money, is less savvy about women and has little to no fangirls that would prevent Amber's tricks. You can tell their marriage is failing, Elon Musk spends 4+ hours a day playing ss13 rather than fucking his beautiful wife.
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>>181731660
and how much juice did you get out of the engine?
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>>181731783
ah, well. I dont really keep up with celebrities because the whole idea of it is really strange to me.
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>>181711996
Call yourself Eli Woods
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>didn't roll antag and it's deff
>time to call shuttle 20 minutes in
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>>181712163
I usually do sound off but I late joined about 3 mins into the round that time. My character also doesn't care for women being in power, usually does the bare minimum in his duties and sees his job as a glorified mallcop. Made the round extra hilarious to play.
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>>181731783
>tfw robusting the a celebrity billionaire on my autistic space gas-piping simulator
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>>181732310
>the a celebrity billionaire
No more BYOND for you, it's starting to affect how you think.
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>>181724072
I agree with you, Dorf is fucking worthless.
Everyone has popped lungs.
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>>181729214
Basically, it's a lot of effort to just reach single shot shotgun strength. At that point you're better off just making flamethrowers, canister bombs, and one-tank bombs. The amount of players that can make full strength railguns are in the single digits.
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>>181732284
>My character also doesn't care for women being in power
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>>181731517
Roundstart box station singulo maxes out at about 60-80 mw which is nothing.
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>>181732284
It's not about a woman being in power. It's about keeping autists safe from shitters so they can keep being autistic instead of their round being ruined.
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>>181732507
what wizardy are you doing to get that much out of it? Even with like -260 plasma in the starting rad collectors and a stage 4 singularity you don't even get 1MW per, i'm 70% sure.
Unless there's been a huge change in engineering since I last played.
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>>181732381
I remember one time we had a shit ton of jaded ass engineers that just set up the singulo and piled all the plasma collectors in front of the singulo, and everyone was autism building railguns and charging the capacitors all round. we managed to get good strength, which was surprising since we weren't even using cooled plasma.
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>>181732648
Full tanks of cooled -266 plasma. Move all the SME rad collectors over to the sing and hook them up. Then grow the sing to stage 4 and keep it there until you get all your capacitors charged.
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>>181732648
>>181732792
Also since collector telestacking was fixed, basically everything involving the sing/sme got a lot more annoying.
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>>181732792
that seems like... not efficient at all.
you can very easily grab ~10MW per collector from the SME with a 20 minutes set up.
Seriously a fairly decent SME is very easy to set up and I'm not even sure why we still have the singularity except pure grief.
>>
post your static and have others judge
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>>181732619
Meh, that's one way to think of it. When you actually Roleplay a character it's a lot funner. Maybe you joined the reds because you needed pay and it was the only job out there. When shit goes south and the day is almost over you just want to get out alive and the crew can go fuck itself. My captain is a literal old alcoholic who has no family to speak of and treats crew like abused stepchildren. I carry empty bottles around to glass people on the head when they disobey me. I still secure the disk and do my job, but reactions to different things become a lot more varied and dynamic.
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>>181733182
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>>181733349
Who?
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>>181709693
>give up all of your fun forever and just keep the shitters at bay
>maintain my community for me, but don't participate

You're a giant faggot. There's no reason they shouldn't be allowed to play unimportant roles, and get the boot if they abuse it.
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>>181733412
dead and gone forever
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>>181733182
I can't actually remember my name
The dangers of playing a bird
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>>181733349
BILL BILL BILL BILL BILL BILL BILL BILL

>>181733182
>implbying i'd post my static
wrongo
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>>181733030
Yeah, it's just a know how to do it thing
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>>181733182
Antonio!
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>>181733182
Jean Blancy
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>>181735090
Error: Mental Interface Failure/10
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>>181733182
Isaac lifof
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>Citadel
>HoP denies maint access during sextended
It's weird, 50% of the players are furry hippy and rabidly anti-ERP, 25% are desperate textfuckers and 25% are just generic furfags.
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>>181735090
>>
has zenny hunt always been an asshole
>>
bored, give ideas to code
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>>181737207
A fun new toy for clown or a new chemical for chemist that doesn't impact balance (ie: a chem that makes forces someone to randomly scream or fart)
>>
>>181737207
code multi layer z-levels
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>>181737207
my peenus weanus
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>>181737207
Buff wrench and crowbar robustness
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>>181737207
A NEW MECH
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>>181737207
more fax destinations for are pee as ayy aey aey
>space ACLU
>Clown Federation
>Vox Shoal
>>
>>181737207

Nerf toolboxes or buff ghetto weapons
>>
>>181737207
https://github.com/vgstation-coders/vgstation13/issues?q=is%3Aissue+or+or+label%3AWYCI
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>>181737770
Toolboxes were nerfed long ago
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>>181737487
Already a PR up for that - https://github.com/vgstation-coders/vgstation13/pull/14834

>>181737505
But why?

>>181737523
Already coded, and sprit. It's such a small and neglected feature you just never see it without close scrutiny.

>>181737525
They're already fairly robust, how much more robust would you want them?

>>181737571
Gimme some ideas for a new mech. Wanted to make a paladin mech with an energy 2-hander, then overwatch came out and I didn't want to look like I was copying reinhardt

>>181737735
Sure, give me a minute.

>>181737770
toolboxes are the icon of robustness, doubt people'd support a nerf to them.

The ghetto weapons are alright for their niche. Don't want a glass combined to a wrench outrobusting an energy sword

>>181737931
Most of these are already coded, what the fuck
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>>181737735
>Discount Dan's
>SolGov
>Various NT departments

>emag for Syndicate or Wizard Federation

>>181738036
They only do 5 force, which is the same as throwing a lighter at someone.
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>>181738036
because then we can stop having a boring 2D station and have engineering underneath the station and command above it.
we can get an interesting layout and elevators and staircases and a COOLER MAINT
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>>181738142
You can message syndicate after emagging comms console
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>>181738036
Mime mech so silent access has a purpose, requires a chemical reaction of some sort with liquid bananium for special shushium as the material, special mech attachments include an invisible wall generator and maybe something that directly counters the honk-blaster
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>>181738378
>Sound inhibitor
>Flashbangs do less damage. Harm alarms, and honk mechs do no damage.
>Everything sounds muffled
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>>181738378
a silence blaster
cancels out all noise for a short period of time
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>>181737207
wooden and metal barrels
i want to be able to construct a empty barrel, them fill it with liquids and drag it around for better liquid transportation

bonus point for being able to turn the barrel into a hobo bonfire or being able to fill it with water and start to throw food on it to make a big soup barrel
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>>181738036
Give cult forges the ability to change the form of cult blades when used
Cult axes
Cult spears
Cult halberds
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>>181738378
>Sound eater
>No sound allowed
>can only mime to talk to other people
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>>181738036
Allow the chaplain to re-skin his null rod into various null-tools and null-weapons.
Without stat changes or sharpness.
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>>181737207
the ability for players to grab onto mechs like they can with borgs.
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>>181737207
Maybe focus on bugfixing like virology which has every feature broken to some extent
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>>181740459
pls don't fix viro, I like being able to heal 27 damage every game tick.
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>>181738192
>because then we can stop having a boring 2D station and have NEVER ENDING LAG FOREVER
>>
if station is 2d
then flat earth is real
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the lings never stood a chance
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Thanks blab
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>>181737735
>>181738142
>Vox Shoal
>requires a trader ID
>Discount Dan's
>Can potentially acquire a 'golden ticket' from dan-related items, that give you an access code (randomized at roundstart) to talk to 'Dan himself!' as part of a promotional offer
>Various NT departments
>roundstart, randomly generated department names, like [Nanotrasen, Nanotransen, Central Command] department of [Agriculture] and [Swordfighting]
>Emag
>Can contact syndicate paper Co' or fax a fax machine on the same z level so it fires paper at projectile speeds at anyone in proximity
>Staff of Animation the fax machine
>It permanently grows legs, wanders around, can now send faxes to WizFed
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>>181736883
Yeah.
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>>181741707
it was tough, but I could have done it. I didn't expect to be arrested in the halls, lest I would have at least put up a fight, I had the means of killing all the silicon and humies are but a deathsting away from keeling over.
>>
Those that did Medbay that round, don't do Medbay.
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>>181737207
fix the bluespace portal
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>>181740459
What bugs do you mean?

I've already spent a fair amount of time poking the hell outta virology. What else could there be?
>>
>Spend round bored in atmos talking to engineering friend and doing small scale projects while he's off exploring space
>He comes back with the goonecode
>We ask for a supermatter crystal
>Badmin actually does it
>Make a small setup to harness it
>Blob happens
>Ends the universe by triggering the shard
>I was a target

Every time I've setup a crystal engine, it ends up blowing up due to "coincidences".
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>>181741707
why has Frank always been such a common name on vg
>>
>>181737525
They shouldn't be stronger. Use an extinguisher a toolbox or other
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>>181741891
Viruses tend to cure themselves on their own very quickly and they are barely able to spread.
Bring back viroloose you cunts
>>
Hail cargonia
>>
>the mime tried to warn us

If we just listened to his note we would have found that third changeling way easier
>>
>>181741920
all lings died within the one hour mark, I being the last one. it was just a "random" event that ended the round like that.
>>
>>181742097
You also can't make like 17 virus syringe
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>>181741920

That's because as soon as it's known you have a crystal it becomes a massive target to every antag on the station for ebin universe ending
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>>181742146
what was he trying to say?
>>181742174
going around injecting people with a virus that doesn't spread goes against the whole point of viruses. if that was the case, then why bother autisming a virus? just inject some fool with mutagen that takes about a second to make and he's dead.
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>>181741891
I've heard that bodies automatically produce antibodies as soon as the virus is contracted. Also someone infected with a virus doesn't appear correctly on the mediHUD. It will flash for a second, then disappear.
https://github.com/vgstation-coders/vgstation13/issues/15307
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>>181742321
That and admins can't resist pushing buttons to get it to trigger. In this case blobs. The chance of overmind blobs is so low this couldn't have been a coincidence.
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>>181742097
Alright, I'll take a look at that after >>181741769 and before >>181738494

Personally like the idea of constructable barrels for mass chem storage. Could go with the whole moonshine gimmick I've seen people do
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>>181742365
Nothing specific to changeling, just that one of them(giving the name of someone who was not suspected previously) blew up his leg.

I was with the detective and she didnt seem to give a fuck, assuming he was lying so i just kind of shrugged and went with it
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>>181741707
>best hos
>best officer

can anybody stop them?
>>
>people actually use macros

I thought powergaming was somewhat tolerable but this takes it to a new level of tryharding holy shit
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>>181737991
They still do 15 brute
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>>181743264

>Whenever someone runs up to the chef's counter and spams their eating macro for fear that lingering nearby might put them through the traumatic experience of having someone attempt to RP with them
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So how the hell do I have sex on this game?
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>>181743264
there are people who legitimately use an autoclicker. it's so sad
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>>181743264
Full disclosure, I don't even like valids
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>>181743813
>>181743446
Holy fuck. The only macros I use are the ones you can make with byond, even then only shit that's hidden behind right-clicking and menus like vent crawling and rotating chairs.
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>>181743264
I only have a macro for picking up stunbatons. Helps a lot when having to deal with sec.

>>181743813
What's wrong with autoclickers?
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>>181743871
>CTRL+l say"*aflap"
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>>181743871
Does that "Toggle-Magboots" work? I was trying to bind that the other day but it didn't do anything.
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>>181744052
I accidentally press it sometimes when I don't want to and I don't remember how.
Usually as carbon, too
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>>181743871
>tfw after years still playing with arrow keys and chat always on
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>>181744115
thanks now I know my target occasionally flaps its wings
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>>181744113
It used to, I just haven't removed them.
Toggle-Magboots, Toggle-Parking-Brake, and Toggle-Jetpack used to be verbs like everything else, but then they were made into "action buttons" instead. The argument is that verbs are literally satan (not false) but the verb bloat we have has very little to do with players and very much to do with the IMMENSE amount of admin verbs we have.
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>>181744113
Oh my god, something I forgot add
You know the little delay you can sometimes get when right-clicking stuff? That's due to the verb bloat. What I was told by a coder happens is that every time you right-click an object, BYOND goes through every single verb that you *don't* have access to???????? I really don't get it, but it's why the delay isn't really noticeable if the entire round has had 0 admins on but then might become noticeable if an admin logs on during the round.
Man, fuck Lummox
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Skrungus
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>>181744454
That's retarded. Anyway, an easy way around that is to alt-click the tile with the stack of stuff. It opens up the "floor" tab so you can look through it that way and it doesn't lag the fuck out.
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Can someone post the "I tried to play on Bay" greentext.
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How does this image make you feel?
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>>181746149
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>forget to turn ops off
>fuck it up horribly
>team still wins
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>message centcomm asking if its too late for an ERT
>nuke goes off not a second later
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>>181746149
>>181746149
>Why are we still here?
>Just to suffer
>Every shift I feel my plant b gone
>my robust harvest
>They keep running out
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>>181743264
>>181743813
You guys would have a heart attack if you found out about the secret chemmaster menu.
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>>181746149
10/10 mime emote
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>>181746149
looks hilarious from an observer's point of view but if i was anyone there i'd be pissed
did they get warned/banned or anything
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>>181742365
The ling and his metabuddy kept trying to fuck up the mime and nobody believed the mime
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>>181742389
Viruses aren't supposed to show up until they are isolated and analyzed which nobody does cause hurr ghetto cure
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>>181746149
I don't get it. there was a breach that the botanist caused from plant shenanigans? What'd the borgo do?
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For the lady op.

Drag the nuke where you want it
You right click the nuke and select make deployable
Slap it with en empty hand
Put the disc in
Empty hand the nuke
Click the toggle in the safety row
Click the toggle on the timer row and it'll start counting down
Click the ++++++++++++++++ bar up top which signifies that there's a disc in it to eject the disc
I forget if you need to do other shit to lock the timer in cause I just leave bombs
Scoot to the shuttle

>>181746329
>Jokingly suggest that he bring a cloner and shit back
>He dies
I felt bad
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>>181746703
The borgo opened the firelock to "get some fuel", ZASsing two humans to death.
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>>181743446
>macro
Literally just press "z" while holding food lrn2hotkey
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>>181737735
>implying le ebin test tube birp mens are smart enough to create a central government
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>>181746428
Learn more about borgs why they're not held to potential harm then or go back to Yogs
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>>181737207
Make it so that getting hit by objects can embed them in you, like metal rods and shit. Othercode serbs have it, and we've got the baseline code for it (bullets and shit), but it doesn't work 100%.
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>>181746859
Oh the borg opened it, figured it was already opened when it happened.
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>>181746703
Borgo killed humansi nstead of using his inflatable dispenser

>>181746894
They shouldn't be warned/banned but they do need a stern talking to in order to remind them about their fucking laws. Especially as an eng borg which has an inflatables dispenser to put an inflatable door/wall to stop that from happening.
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>>181746840

If you're heaven, I didn't fuck up my deathgasp in medbay.
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>>181746927
Yeah it also works with monkeys if you eat monkey cubes, but that's about it
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>>181747070
>inflatable dispenser
You know that image is months and months old, right?
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>>181747070
hownu.ru
That screenshot has been floating around long before /vg/ spessmen had inflatable walls, let alone borgs
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>>181747114
Yeah, sorry about that, I get really scared when the holomap icon turns red and at any moment a faker's signing on

>>181747174
No but even then you can make a 1x2 glass "airlock"

>>181747193
Those look like pacid vines which would be botany 3 which is recent
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>>181746703
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>>181746894
>doesn't patch hole in the floor
>opens firelock
>isn't at fault for killing that guy
NICE MEME SENAAT
EVEN IN DEATH YOU'RE STILL RETARDED
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>>181746894
>>181747373
I mean, even if the borg couldn't fix the breach yet, even if the borg didn't want to bother making a glass airlock, EVEN THEN
people in general really need to remember that going through Maint is an option with breaches
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>>181746894
>vaccum in one side
>humans in the other
>mixing the two is "potential" harm
?
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>>181746149
like someone needs a bannu
>>
https://github.com/vgstation-coders/vgstation13/pull/15344
Borgs and emagged MoMMIs to become affected by pressure and heat.

How does this PR make you feel?
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>>181747907
Good.
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>>181746149
Should've just waited in the room if there was no way to get out without harming humans. Exposing a hallway full of people to a vacuum and also fucking up the people in the room is not worth some welding fuel.

>>181746894
Hello, yes, please never play any silicon role if you think that this is a case of "potential" and not "certain" harm.
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>>181747907
>mommis are no longer emagged
>borgs are always subverted instead of emagged
wow sure are changing things
we should just remove the emag as a syndie weapon desu
they shouldn't need an uplink either
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>>181748170
All borgs are affected
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>>181743446
>eat macro

Imagine being this retarded
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>>181748281
that's even worse then
cyborgs needing EVA gear when
we got a plasmafire killing humans but whoops can't get them out, I'll just die too being a mediborg
it's a shitty change
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>>181747907
How about you actually add something to the game for a change. This is just pointless lateral movement.
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>>181743446
>eat macro
Are you such a fucking mongoloid that you don't know how to use in-hand objects without clicking?
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>>181746149
HARM ALARM
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>>181748476
t. mad silicuck because he can't get his malf plasmafire kills anymore
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>>181747907
Sillycons entire point is that they can do things humans can't. Why would you make them less effective at doing what needs to be done?
Make borg bodies heat up when in superheated areas so attempting to touch or drag someone applies that heat to the person.
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>>181748476
You'll need an engiborg for it if it gets real hot, it looks like.
Engiborgs are going to be the only ones with atmos hardsuit protection. Combat, Syndicate, Supply, Security, and Medical get medical hardsuit protection. If I'm missing anything, it's because its protection is that of a regular space suit.
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>>181748476
Sorry, I'm partially wrong. That medical hardsuit protection is for the *pressure*. For the heat protection, it looks like it'll be the same as a regular space suit (for all borgs except engiborgs).
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>>181748549
>How about you actually add something to the game for a change.
I did, though.
https://github.com/vgstation-coders/vgstation13/pulls?q=is%3Apr+author%3ASonixApache+is%3Aclosed+label%3AContent
At least 5 'things'.
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>>181748936
>malf/subverted AI
>silicons begin picking/asking for module change to engiborg
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>>181747907
Feel fucking awful because now my job as engiborg is impossible.
Fuck you.
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>>181750184
funny become better demon's borne maymay you're self good buddy
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>>181750184
But as engiborg, you'll still have atmos hardsuit level heat protection and pressure protection up to like 20000 kPa (assuming ONE_ATMOSPHERE is 101.3 kPa which it really should be)
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>>181750184
How so?
You usually work in areas with pressures higher than 20,265kPa, or temperatures higher than 30000°K?
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Borg hands are a bad idea and so is this.
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>>181750661
>borg hands
no one is stupid enough to do anything like this though, right?
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>>181733182
M-mazuhira
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>>181751254
See for yourself
https://github.com/vgstation-coders/vgstation13/pull/15338
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>>181751254
https://github.com/vgstation-coders/vgstation13/pull/15338
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>2edgy banned
who did he play?
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>>181751254
>>181751446
>>181751461
They're not really hands.
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>>181748936
>Cyborgs now fly around in space breaching whatever isn't on fire and killing stragglers
Sure can't get those valids right
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>>181737207
program 2hotdogs being unbanned
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>>181752283
at least it won't be just peacekeeper lmao taser spam like before
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>>181751795
Right. Just gripping limbs.
>>
For the Birb Reich!
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i thought it was revs lol
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>>181752593
Just gripping modules that are hardcoded to only allow gripping certain things.
Unlike carbon hands, which can pick up ***and use*** anything.
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>>181747907
>Be Valid McValid
>Collect valids
>"What do you mean I can't solo the AI in malf when there's a Plasmafire and borgs? That must be fixed!"
>Open PR
>"Nerf" it
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>be chef
>see scientist run up to the table
>he puts the drill down twice obviously trying to drill through it
>smacks his head once trying to climb over
>eventually he runs to the windoor and smashes it with the drill
>"what the fuck dude leave"
>"nah Im just gonna stay here"
>benny hill for a little bit throwing glass shards at him
>finally leave to go get some cable cuffs so I can slip and buckle him to a chair
>hes gone when I get back

BUNKER WHEN?!?!?!
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>>181753182
>be turbospeed armored fortress with un ending stuns and about only 4 different things in the game that can stun me
>what do you mean I have to work hard for my greentext
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>>181741707
>Dante
Good nice officer
>Eloise
Great detective
>Riccardo
Consistently good officer
>Frank
Best current HoS
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do emps break freedom implants?
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>>181754329
>there are people who believe this
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>>181753143
still stupid
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>>181754993
What's wrong with it?
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>page 10
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>>181747373
Are you retarded, pal?
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>>181755336
lol
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>greys get cusomization and hair when?
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>>181746894
This isn't considered potential harm, it's considered actual harm.
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>>181758201
When you pry the sprites off of Niggly and hope he didn't delete them.
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>>181746894
"no admin can you not see, this was only potential there was the possibility of them being okay after I fucked them with zas"
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>>181758912
>>
You can ban 1 player forever and unban one player forever

Who do you choose?
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>>181758201
when they become a off station antagonist role only.
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>>181759823
Dunsel Hordon

Vulgaris
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>>181759823
Me
(You)
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>>181759823
Why was vulgaris banned exactly? i've been playing on and off for a while since 2013ish and i thought he quit considering it's been a rather long time.
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>>181760343
Took shitcurity too far by continuously welderbombing corpses of people that barely did anything.
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>>181759823
Unban rfultra
Ban myself
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>>181760343
He came back with admin again
Got deadminned for checking antags while playing HoP while adminned or something like that
Don't see him in the ban list
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>>181760343
He became an admin and knowingly checked the antags list while playing. Again.
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>>181760648
>>181760718
What a guy.
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>>181760769
Makes you cry
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Reminder that this is the difference between potential and probable harm:

The clown accidentally punches someone once, AI locks them in a room and refuses to let them out because he harmed someone. This is potential harm.

An officer killed a traitor in self defense, AI refuses to let him out of a locked room because harm. This is potential harm.

Man murders 24 people with an esword, gets trapped in room, AI refuses to let him out. This is probable harm.

Man throws bomb and holds signaller, gets tazed by borg before he can detonate it and gets cuffed. Borg refuses to let him go. This is probable harm.
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>>181760856
>An officer killed a traitor in self defense, AI refuses to let him out of a locked room because harm. This is potential harm.
Wrong. The officer killed someone, the circumstances doesn't matter.
That officer gets the eternal gay baby jail.
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>>181760856
Where's possible harm in this?
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>>181760958
What the fuck is possible harm?

>>181760954
The AI has to prevent harm from happening, not punish people that have harmed already.

The officer harmed someone in self defense, they're not likely to harm again, hence locking them up is not an acceptable measure.

The traitor that killed 24, however, is very likely to cause harm in the future. As is the bomber, even if he hasn't harmed yet.
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>>181761089
>The officer harmed someone in self defense, they're not likely to harm again, hence locking them up is not an acceptable measure.
They are likely to harm someone if another self-defense situation comes up as they have already shown that, therefore they get locked up.
Very simple, you just failed the silicon test.
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>>181760856
so if you collect the valids as a borg, it justifies your laws. cool.
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>>181761223
*it gets justified by your laws.
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>>181761223
What do you even mean by this?

If you stop someone that was about to commit harm then yes, you're allowed to ignore their law 2 commands to let them go.

>>181761170
That's a good way to get lasered to death by the Captain and bwoinked by an admin.
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>>181761389
>That's a good way to get lasered to death by the Captain and bwoinked by an admin.
>Bait antag into a situation where he has to attack you
>Kill him
>"Oh no you see AI it was self-defense I surely wont do that again :^)"
Your reasoning destroys the entire purpose of ASIMOV. You are doing mental gymnastics so that you can get your balids on ASIMOV without consequences.

Also, no admin is going to bwoink an AI for locking someone up who has killed another human.
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>>181761615
>security kill a nuke op that's about to kill them
>AI bolts all security down and lets nukeops do what they want while security can only watch
>think you won't get bwoinked

Yeah, no.
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>>181761615
>ASIMOV
>ASIMOV
S T O P
T
O
P
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>>181761615
>>181761828
I don't even know why i'm arguing with you, i'm literally the person that made the rule. So unless something has drastically changed in terms of policy, i think i know what the rules are.
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>>181761828
then get it off asimov. the whole purpose to silicon is that at some point they become a liability, and there should be nothing wrong with deactivating them if you can't get a more efficient lawset in. there's no one lawset that will be perfect for every scenario.
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>>181761975
I'm looking at the history of the Silicon Laws wiki page and I'm dismayed by the possibilities.
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>>181762205
I didn't edit the wiki, i don't even have a wiki account.
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>>181762319
You sound pretty irrelevant desu
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>>181762364
I am nowadays.
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>>181761828
>Bolt all of security down
Nice hyperbole there my friend. You bolt down the one officer who did it, not everyone.
Also, you wont get bwoinked and I can assure you that on the simple fact that I am an admin.
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does the current byond work or does it still give you fucking vaseline vision
I'm sick of being stuck on 510 for fucks sakes
>>
OH YEAH
ARGUING ABOUT LAWS
OH YEAH
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>>181762510
I have no problems with 511.1384 on Windows 7 x64
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>>181762702
>WORKS
>ON
>MY
>MACHINE
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>the frog getting buttblasted when he got captured
>top fucking kek
>he still offered advanced lungs for the nazi suit
>trader bodyguard stun cuffed him
>he bitches for 20 minutes
>my sides are in another dimension
>>
>medbay screeches about suit sensors all shift
>never rescue a single goddamn person
>medbay gives maybe one reminder at start and never brings it up again
>on the ball
really... causes one to ponder....
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>>181761389
this is what infuriates me about silicon players most. you don't have the same rights as a player. if you as a borg are in a depressurized room, and there are people on the other side of the airlock without any ZAS protection, then don't open the fucking airlock. you're obligated to spend the entire round in that one room so long as opening that firelock causes anyone even a smidgen of harm. If preventing harm gets you deactivated validly, then so be it, you HAVE to dollow through with your laws regardless. you're a slave to your laws, and if fulfilling your laws to the upmost ability causes you to miss out on the round, then so be it. roundstart all access and invulnerability comes with a price.
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>>181762805
Thanks BYOND
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>>181753187
but did you ahlep it?
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>>181762983
If I'm leaving the station (roid or space vault hunting) I always make sure to inform somebody in medbay. Preferably the CMO, but a doctor or paramed at least.
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>>181759823
UNBAN NEVIL
Reeeeeeeeeee
>>
https://github.com/vgstation-coders/vgstation13/pull/15343
I want this to work so bad
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>>181744181
Hello, RRRRR.
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>>181765839
hes been trying to get this passed for months now. This is his 5th PR
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>>181765839
looks good, I like what I'm seeing.
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>>181765839
This would be fucking amazing.
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>ETA: 4:59
Hold me guys... ;_;
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>>181767417
RIP
>>
>see autoinjector on table
>stab myself with it
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>so consumed with robotics autism that i didnt even notice it was nearly a 3 hour shift
>>
I was sad to see that the paramedic did not like it when I gave him a catatonic twin. I was even more sad when he himself was catatonic after I paid for his release from the vox.
Also, how did the virologist miss that Casey's dead body have a virus? I had to cure it in my office to get antibodies.
>>
>>181767417

I see pjb is trying to redesign the shuttle again
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>>181762858
I was one of the birbs, I was not prepared for our Bodyguard to be so quick on his claws to just zap and bodysnatch him.

Fucking impressive.
>>
I think that HoS was one of the most incompetent I've ever had
>>
>call the hos boring
>get demoted roundstart
woooooooooooow
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>>181767876
It was zenny wasn't it?
>>
>IAA validlusts to kill CE who did the 'we build' meme
>shoots a window to try to kill CE in space with a ballistic weapon
>zasses everyone in shuttle cockpit towards space
>CE throws up an inflatable to prevent everyone from flying out
>CE gets beat to death by security
Bravo IAA
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>>181767841
The CMO was the only good head that round. The HoP was fine and the RD was too, but the captain went braindead pretty quick, the HoS was the HoS, and the CE powertripped hard.
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>>181767767
Even though, he did nothing to either of you the second time around. I was watching the whole time.
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>>181767961
it was
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>>181767595
>grab injector from pocket
>stab myself with it
>forgot it's chloral
>>
>HoS cuts off botanist's head
>proceeds to space himself holding the botanist's head
Bravo sec
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>>181762858
This is one of the shittiest greentext I've ever seen, even the image conveys a feeling that doesn't align with the "story".
Less memes and learn how to greentext newfag.
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>>181767876
>don't respect chain of command
>get dunked for it
>stay mad
truly epic
>>
>>181768204
completely justified tbqh
>>
>latejoin
>someone waiting outside arrival shuttles
>follows me out and he hand someone else give chase
>have no idea what is happening
>radio is going off about cultists and shit, even see cult chanting in chat
>Grab bear traps and IED them in fear of getting chased
>sec arrests me and puts me in cell
>borer wants me to break out, wait it out
>leave, grab bear trap on way out
>can't fit it in backpack, just walk to door
>sec officer comes sprinting out, flasher flashes me and officer proceeds to step on me so he can *fart
>triggers bear trap and blows his own leg off
honk
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>>181768254
?????
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>>181768145
What
how do you forget that the chloral injector you made is chloral
like fuck man, if you're that stupid, just keep it in your labcoat instead
>>
did the bomb cap get lowered? that seemed like less destruction than I'm used to seeing.
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>>181767876
I just didn't say anything because I was afraid he would do the same to me
>>
>>181767979
>the second time around
So just because there's a second time, the first one doesn't exist anymore?
Also, at that point, we were so fucking tired of being harassed, so I fucking went with it.
We didn't kill him and we returned him shortly after we kidnapped him.
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>>181767975
There's no reason to be IAA/lawyer whatsoever on vgstation. It serves no purpose other than enabling bottom of the barrel powergaming shitters of the worst kind. Just search them and confiscate their ID, cotnraband and brig them if they're abusing their access. IAA is the #1 stickler for procedure on the station. They shouldn't be kitted out to the nines

>>181768112
You shouldn't be surprised. Doing shitter stuff like that is basically thing and he's been doing it for years. I still don't know how he got his perma lifted.

>>181768254
Fuck off zenny.
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>>181768330
R E S P E K
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>>181767975
>fax centcomm bitching about the CE and HoS
>they send me something along the lines of "Why don't you do us both a favor and kill him?"
>get tator'd
>they give me a golden desert eagle too
>shuttle docks
>go in
>CE is outside
>hand the RD centcomm's fax for validation
>open fire
>forget I'm not buckled in
>he ends up getting lynched anyway
Not my worst fuckup 2bh
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>>181768323
There were about three officers in medbay at the end of the round with missing feet/legs, how many IEDbeartraps did you make?
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>>181768348
Cap was raised from 3/7/14 to 7/14/28 when the explosion rework accounted for walls dampening explosions. As a whole, explosions got larger on soft targets and have a stronger effect in the same area on heavily reinforced areas. If you mean since then, no.
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>>181768340
I carry two injectors, one for DD and one for Chloral. I may have chloraled someone when I was trying to save them once or twice in the middle of a fight, I still think about it

Neither are labeled
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>>181768573
>CE is doing his job of fixing shit
>Head of Shitcurity is dumpstering faggots left and right
>HEY CENTCOMM THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE DO SOMETHING REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Fuck off back to whatever shithole you crawled out of.

>>181768606
DD is utter crap. Just make a pill when you make the chloral to save you the effort.
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>>181768606
>Neither are labeled
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>>181768606
just keep one in your pocket and the other in your pack no big deal.
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>>181768579
the first one was the officer doing it to himself, the second was me doing it to an officer who was going to perma me in revenge for the first, my borer was trying to break me out of a cell and I needed to stall. The third was not me and confused the hell out of me when I saw him.
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>>181768803
>Searching a perp
>Autoinjectors spilling out of him like a rive
>Wonder what these do tee hee~
>Inject him with all of them
>When he dies he gets stripped and dumped in perma
Good times.
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>>181768794
>doesn't understand chain of command
>doesn't confer with other heads on calling/recalling
>niggered the captain's ID when the HoP was still alive
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>>181767976
what's the difference between a fine head and a good head tho

t. trying to be a good head
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>>181769008
That's a good gimmick for a corrupt officer
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>>181769029
>Claims chain of command when it's an engineering matter
>Doesn't confer with other heads on calling/recalling
>If the hop did his job in the first place he wouldn't need it
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>>181767976
>CMO was the only good head that round
I spent almost the ENTIRE round dressing up dead bodies in my office, doing weird unsafe surgeries, bothering central command with medical reports, and ordering the silicons to fuck with people because NT default.
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>>181769121
Good heads do their job, don't cause trouble, and do their best not to step on the toes of their other heads. Additionally, they can supervise well or know how to look for suspicious behavior, which helps during rounds like cult/rev when your department could potentially be converted.
Fine heads either do the bare minimum requirements of their job and then fuck off to do other things, or use their power to do stuff they're technically not disallowed from doing but it's not great to do anyway. (ex. HoP giving himself all access and taking a few guns out of the armory).
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>>181769278
>>Claims chain of command when it's an engineering matter
>station is in chaos from vamps, thralls, and shitters running around with guns and IED bear traps
>an engineering issue
also
>I HAVE THE CAPTAIN'S ID, THAT MEAN I CAPTAIN
>>If the hop did his job in the first place he wouldn't need it
What did you mean by this?
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>>181768794
>>181769029
To be a third party in all of this.
The CE did do a shitty thing on the vote where he didn't get all the heads to vote.
The CE however was next in line to be captain since the captain, hop and the hos was down.
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>>181769607
>The CE however was next in line to be captain since the captain, hop and the hos was down.
The HoP was still alive when he recalled it, and one thing a lot of people fail to understand is that the role of acting captain starts with the captain proper, then falls to the HoP, then stops. No other head can formally claim the role.
I've asked the admins about this a number of times, and I can recall responses in the affirmative.
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>>181769467
tbf I only grabbed guns from the armory to shoot at borgs who were trying to dunk me for murdering a man. I also reverted my access after changing the borgs' laws, until the IAA started talking about the CE being a shit and me being acting captain or something. Then I gave myself all access again to call the shuttle and cut the wires to the APCs on the bridge and in the cap's office

I'd like to think I had permissible reasons to do that. Usually I try not to give myself all access as HoP and run around doing shit like that but whoever murdered Ian sort of forced me down the rabbit hole.
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>>181769994
>tbf I only grabbed guns from the armory to shoot at borgs who were trying to dunk me for murdering a man.
It reads like "to be fair I only grabbed guns from the armory so I can murder robots who were trying to stop me from murdering more."
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>>181767961
Yup.
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>>181769121
Get the help of the silicons to secure dat fukken spare and the disc if there's no captain. HoP's are slow and the other heads might not be there first. Hack if there's no ezmode silicons. Handle access changes, inform the recieving dept about their new employee, print an access report, and hit update info on their pda with the card in to update the manifest
Quickly make it to your keycard auth and swipe when it flashes blue for code red and again for an ERT
Make sure the essential functions of your dept get done. If at all possible you need to delegate this because you cannot do everything yourself. There simply isn't time for things to get done effectively as soon as any crisis happens
Use your dept funds to help keep the place stocked up and running smoothly before shit hits the fan
Do a basic head count of your dept at least every 30 minutes and remind them to max sensors, let you know if they're going to sleep. Get the CMO or AI to update their medical record to deceased as disappeared/MI failures roll in so we have an accurate active count
Teach people that need teaching
Communicate with the heads, AI, and your dept staff to efficiently allocate the willing manpower you have
Get that motherfucking hyperzine, minimum of a rigsuit and magboots.
When too many people are dying or disappearing, coordinate a code red swipe and call an ERT to get people back in the round and help unfuck the place
Don't call the shuttle over a matter another head has jurisdiction over.

Know how to powergame like a motherfucker. Construction, machinery, hacking, repair, ghetto surgery/cloning/medical care, swapping APC cells,where to make sacide and robo control/AI uploads to unfuck or blow silicons, ride out an internal bleed with bicard-inaprov OD meds and mortar iron, opening lockboxes. Things are going to break down, you cannot afford to die, and you need to haul your dept and by extension the station to the finish line on your broad shoulders
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>>181768794
>hos
>dumpstering anything but himself
lol
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>>181769994
It sucks but somebody has to step up to drive the boat my dude. Don't let the grind get to you.
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>>181769823
t. literal inbred shitter. Why haven't you been permabanned yet?
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>>181770427
>murderborg spots you
>shoot them with ion
>run away or flash

how to nonlethally shoot borgos: an introduction

only needed to shoot blue shit at them until I changed their laws. I returned everything to the armory after that. The borgs were trying to detain me for murdering a dude who killed Ian in front of me.

>>181770694
Thank you for kind words anon
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>>181770557
>call an ERT

No one ever does this
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>>181769994
This was the exact correct thing to do. You're good m8. Much better than any other head to ever grace the station desu.
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>>181766219
Why hasn't it though? Is he just coding it badly? Or what?
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>>181771110
thanks senpai
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>>181770557
>good head means powergaming shitler who should be permabanned
OK kid.
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>>181770969

Because the ERT will be exclusively made up of unrobust shitters who've already been dunked because any actually skilled observer didn't pick observe to play the round
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>>181770964
If you have access, ion/flash, unlock, crowbar, ion/flash, hand screwdriver, wirecut until you find lockdown. Then crowbar out their actuator and bag it and the cell. When you get time you can blow unlinked borgs and purgeasimov so you know if you need to just kill, card, and destroy the AI for good if they keep fucking up.

>>181770969
Most of our heads are garbage, that doesn't change that it's a valuable tool that should be used far more than it is. It's not unexpected seeing as most of our craptains are just grayshits taking it for all access

>>181771347
You have to be a rock for your dept and for the station.

>>181771354
It's better than nothing.
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>>181771354
sometimes robust people are already dead by the time an ERT is necessary/desirable. Then the ERT gets them.
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>>181718109
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>>181708105
If you looked at the deadmin hours he worked, it was mostly sawbones being admined and him deadmining.
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>>181718516
http://rinonno.deviantart.com/art/Surprise-Check-672160844
:^)
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>>181772816
Why do you know this anon?
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>>181772816
cute
CUTE!!
>>
redpill me on the TEG
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>>181772816
I regret asking.
That is not what I pictured at all.
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>>181772932
Because I'm a degenerate
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>>181773159
back2pol
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>>181773202
>Implying that it's not the hottest thing you've ever seen
Anon, you shouldn't tell lies.
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>>181772646
That's pretty funny
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>>181773259
I guarantee I've been here longer than you buddy
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>>181773202
>being a normalfag with shit taste
zozzle, simply zozzle!
>>
>>181773470
??????????
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>>181772816
Oh NO
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>>181773554
t. Gunosaguki
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>>181771495
>you have to be literal cancer and deserve nothing but a permaban for your dept and for the station
>>>/hippie/
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>>181747362
Holy fuck I gotta step up my meme game
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>>181718109
>>181772816
As someone who is into this, I'm fucking losing my shit laughing at this turn of events
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>>181774106
Hi DrCelt
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>>181774106
Hi Dizor
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>>181772816
I don't know what to expect
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>>181772816
>when security checks you on green
NOW I get it.
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>>181774554
I still dond ged id
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>>181769823
>No other head can formally claim the role.
those admins you asked were wrong
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>>181773721
I'd love to hear what your vision is cause all I'm hearing is is cuck talk.
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>>181774554
S T O P
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How do you make an autoinjector with chloral? I thought you couldn't make an autoinjector
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>>181774680
>>181769823
http://ss13.moe/wiki/index.php/Chain_of_Command#Chain_of_Succession

Chain of Succession

If the Captain is missing, authority falls to the next in the Chain of Succession, usually the Head of Personnel.

If the Captain and the Head of Personnel are missing, and it is suspected they were taken out of action by a hostile force, authority usually falls to the Head of Security, as missing the top two command positions is deemed as an emergency, and the Head of Security has authority in dealing with station wide emergencies.

If the situation stabilizes itself, a new Captain and a new HoP should be assigned ASAP. It is suggested that the HoS remains in his position to prevent wasting his military training and so the crew doesn't get ideas. (To spell it out, the crew isn't going to like a military putsch for whatever reason.)

If the Captain, HoP and HoS are all missing, then you're pretty screwed either way, and anarchy rules the station then it's a vote between the CE, RD and CMO as how to deal with it, either by assigning a new Captain, by one of them assuming the role, or calling an evacuation as things may be getting pretty bad by then.

So when things are going normal, but a few positions haven't been filled:

Captain -> Head of Personnel -> HoS/CE/RD/CMO (Voting is usually done at this stage).

And in the case of a security emergency:

Captain -> Head of Personnel -> Head of Security -> CE/RD/CMO (Voting is usually done at this stage).

Summary

The Captain has absolute authority. No other non-captain Head of Staff can overrule the other, except in extreme cases (e.g. criminal activity, mental instability). In the event of missing Captain, authority follows Chain of Succession.

>>181774807
You ask the nearest assistant for assistance.
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>>181774106
It gets better. The artist is actually a former admin
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>>181769823
The Dutchman must have a captain. Clowns as acting captains are very common and allowed.
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>>181768573
>Centcom authorizes hit on CE who recalled, and then held a vote about leaving which ended in a tie
holy shit they never answer faxes, and when they do, they are retarded
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>>181773721
>replying to morena/sarca
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>>181774554
>Security tries to search me on code green
>3 riot shield baton nymphs move off my shoulders and gangbang him

>>181775062
You're alt-tabbed most of the time. Things are both boring and extremely chaotic as you're bombarded with every channel, attack and admin logs unless you've been squelching stuff left and right.
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>>181774940
>if the Cap, HoP, and HoS are missing, then the CE, CMO, or RD can assume command
retarded shitter IAA btfo
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>>181774807
Protip: right-click the AI
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>>181775269
>HoP wasn't missing
>(Voting is usually done at this stage)
>station wasn't in an emergency by the CE's standards
retarded shitter CE btfo
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>Finally found and successfully updated my copy of the repo
Is there a better feeling?
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>>181775016
I am very doubtful of this, not gonna lie
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>when your post cloning pod hair color is better than the old one
Fuck It's so good but I don't want to change how my static looks
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>>181775545
Can't you just download it from the git?
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>>181775727
All you have to do is die a lot.
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>>181775772
Yeah but not having to re-downloed it every single time I want to make a commit will be nice
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>>181775772
You could download a fresh copy of bleeding-edge off the github, but it's faster (and better) to update it through the power of Git.
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>>181775913
>>181775902
I don't understand. But okay.
I just have it downloaded to test stuff on a local serb or to check damge stats and shit like that.
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>>181775727
Why does it change though?
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>>181775727
>not changing your hair style and color every round
I rotate from mulder, CIA, and Check 'em regularly, and change my hair color by a few numbers from "grey" to "grey"0 liteerally every round.
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