/dsg/ - Demon's/Dark Souls General

Rolls Souls 3 is shit.

Third for Dragonslayer's Axe is garbage beyond Highwall Twinking

https://youtu.be/CjMbjBMMVBY

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>just remembered I forgot to get SOTFS on steam sale

fuck, oh well I was still salty DS1 wasn't on sale.

>just transitioned from Xbox

>>181735930
It's actually arguable one of the best weapons for SL 1 runs

>>181735296
Anything can run on anything, assuming you don't care how it looks.
Intel HD is actually okay but your CPU has an overall TDP of FUCKING 15 WATTS. The average desktop CPU is 60-95 watts.

Basically it's a low power piece. The only saving grace is that it's 4th gen. Intel's highest single threading sits on the 4th gen and even at a scrawny 2.6GHz it can score 1.3k on single threading which is marginally better than a core 2 duo.

A score of 600 on your intel iGPU means it's about twice as good as my Intel HD 3000 that runs tf2 on medium 60 fps, for perspective.
You will be able to run it but you need to lower your internal rendering resolution to truly jaw dropping levels and drop all effects.


Consider checking out local e-waste recyclers or criagslist for no OS office desktops that you can load with shit and a GPU to get the ball rolling.
Put a core 2 quad in them to get a good CPU. They're like 20 bucks online. And put a GTX 480 in it if you want a cheap, hot as hell, and cheap GPU that performs well.

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>>181735797
Nah, has the best females

>>181736012
You can't use it at SL1 you nigger

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>>181735859
You didn't bring up a single argument against my points in the first place, hence not an argument

re linking for objectively the best SL60> build that no one has been able to prove wrong >>181726047

>>181735965
>just transitioned from Xbox
Me too.

I picked up all three on monday but I've only played the first two on 360. I'm hoping SotFS is a lot better than regular DS2.

Just need to wait for a controller.

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I want to ___ my ___ in this sorcerer's ___!

>>181736603
But there weren't any point to argue against

Also not an argument fyi

>>181735965
FUCK

How much was it?

>>181736739
put
foot
ass

FUCK WIZARDS

>>181736639
I wont even pick up Dark Souls 3, I already plat'd it on Xbox One.

But, I will play DS1 and SOTFS at some point, my Xbox One controller works just fine with PC.

>>181736574
>what is the Knight's Ring
>what is the Hunter's Ring
>what is two-handing the weapon

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>>181736810
Ooh, kinky! But I'm sure he's still much too tight for that, why not start with one finger?

>>181736758
not even a good sale, it was still ike 11.99 or some shit.

>>181736603
If it's so good then why have I literally never seen it?

I've seen a couple people using a DSA but they were playing faith builds and buffing it with lightning weapon. Never seen this vitgouged DSA meme thing in-game.

>>181735296
You could just, you know, refund it.

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>>181737040
>the price of a movie ticket
>for 200+ hours of gameplay
>not a good price
Poorfags get out.

>>181737259
Yeah, I'm doing that now to buy DS1 and probably something else

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>gold and silver tracer didn't make it into the game even though it's in the game files with a full moveset and was updated with each DLC release

>>181737362
Do people in your country actually fucking pay $10+ for one movie ticket?

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>>181737362
I've already paid full price for this game, and put 400+ hours into it. I'm just a cheap jew bastard, and I want Dark Souls 1 to be on sale at the same time so I can buy both of them at once.

>>181736739
add
scrolls
curriculum

>>181737390
DLC3 confirmed :^)

>>181737542
DaS isn't going to go on sale because they're releasing a remaster/remake of it next year.

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>>181737549
Good choice anon. I'm sure he would be very grateful!

>>181737386
DaS2 would probably work. but I dunno if you would be able to run DaS1 with that puny CPU of yours.

>>181736752
>But there weren't any point to argue against
But there are tho, did you miss the entire last thread?

>>181726047
>>181728132
>>181728872
>>181729509
>>181729943
>>181730786
And more

You got completely BTFO and you still haven't provided an argument
You can't say '''not an argument'' when you still haven't posted any arguments against the original point in the first place
stil no argument

>>181737202
see
>>181729943
>>181730334
>>181730786
This was already settled last thread

>>181735930
With Gold Resin I get an average AR 300-350
That's almost UGS Tier

>>181737710
I'm sure it'll be on sale at least 6 more times before summer 2018.

>>181737436
In IMAX, which is the only reason anyone would bother to pay for a film.

>>181737710
If they did release a remake of DS1, do you think they would be better off porting everything to the DS3 engine, gameplay and all?

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>>181737791
The sequel runs on this but not the first? the fuck?

>>181737860
Okay man you're right

I'll just be over here having fun instead.

>>181737791
>>181737985
If he can't run DS1, he definitely won't be able to run SOTFS.

>>181737862
AR doesn't mean shit when you're dealing with elemental damage. It'll always look more impressive than it actually is.

>>181737910
I certainly wouldn't mind playing das with das3 combat/controls/mechanics/netcode.

>remake of DaS
>with all the shit like weapon memory, only invading hosts that have phantoms, password, infinite rolls
Gross

Can you still parry DSA WA?

>>181738031
That was my logic, I was running DS2 and it was running fucking cleanly

>>181738045
I mean the actual damage it deals
The AR is almost 600 with Resin and I'm using it on my Salt Turtle
Never got so much Hatemail in my life

>>181737390
just CE em dude

>>181737860
Imagine

Dark Souls 3, but nobody uses anything except the Dragonslayer Axe

And then somebody comes along with a different weapon and memes all over them all because the Dragonslayer Axe moveset and hitbox is garbage even if it's damage is high and you can afford more vig and end when using it raw.

Like, by the numbers you're absolutely right, it's an optimal build. But those surface numbers don't really account for every facet of a character.

I haven't played since the release of the last DLC, how are Twin Great-swords doing atm?

>fire whip could have been the pyro equivalent of flashsword
>instead we get that shitty fan
why

>>181738338
Flame Fan is great, fuck you

>>181738338
>>181738386
On the topic of useless pyromancies, Profaned Flame is such a disappointment. Coolest pyro animation by far but it's so shitty.

>want to replay ds2 to try out some weapons even though I had very little fun playing ds2 in the first place, didn't even finish the DLCs
what's wrong with me

>>181738289
Stop replying to him, he's autistic. He'll just say something along the lines of 'Hitbox and moveset are crutches to account for lack of skill, not an argument'

Actually it's probably a troll, the posting style is pretty bait-like

Either way stop responding you moron

>>181738591
Nothing, it's a shit game

>finish das3
>excisted for das1
>shit-smeared port only works on 60hz refresh rate monitors
>cucked

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>>181738148
>>181738148
>>181738148

Anyone know if you can still parry Dragonslayer Greataxe weapon art?

>>181738289
I meme on that weapon every time. I can't ever remember losing to it.

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>>181738117
>>remake of DaS
>>with all the shit like powerstancing, perfect tracking, hollowing, fast travel from the start, soul memory
B-team no

>>181738839
Nigger you were here weeks ago, works just fine on 120+, stop trying to force vsync via your graphics card or something equally as retarded

>>181738935
What video is that gif from?

>>181738841
Yes but it got a stealth speed buff in The Ringed City patch so it's far harder to do now safely.

>>181738841
Fuck off you pedophile furry

>>181737710
Wait, is this actually happening, or is it just a far off fantasy?

>>181738290
Still the best weapon in the game, OP as fuck, like all str weapons

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>>181739274
How else do you explain this?

>>181739116
Actually confirmed or just an assumption?
Do you play this on 75+? cuz all I got from researching about it was that it does not work with anything higher than 60.

>>181738290
Mediocre at best in pvp now, pretty good in pve and group fights.

>>181739396
DaS1 > DeS >= BB > DaS3 > > > > > DaS2

They just know people will pay more for better games.

>>181738030
It's a shame you're not even trying to reason with or consider the points being made but are instead going to dismiss the whole argument because even you know you're wrong

>>181738289
See
>>181729943
>>181730786
Are you so thick that you don't even bother reading the posts you're replying to because you've already made up your mind? Jesus

>>181738606
le autism it's the only retort i know autism autism
everything i don¡t understand is bait or le troll
no one could possibly have a different opininion than mine
i can't think of an argument with my pea brain ma arguments are for autists bluggh

Christ, trying to argue with kids that can't be reasoned with is painful

Demon's Soul is an clunky unplayable mess now, it's easily the worst in the series now. It's aged like milk sitting in the hot sun for a week
DaS > BB > SotFS > DaS III > DaS II > DeS

>>181739913
this but unironically

>>181739531
>Actually confirmed or just an assumption?
I have a 120hz monitor and DS1 runs. Playing over 60 is stupid because the engine freaks out and dies every now and then, but the game itself works just fine.

>>181739913
Here's your >(you)
Also, SotFS is worse than Vanilla DaS2+DLC.

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>>181737390
>and was updated with each DLC release

Wat?

>>181739913
DaS>DaS3>BB>DeS>DaS2
But you pedophiles don't know better and don't act like Scholar was somehow a upgrade to shit souls 2

>>181740378
Objectively wrong, as expected of a tripfag.

>>181740378
Try to prove him wrong. One can respect DeS for starting the series, but mechanically it's objectively vastly inferior to all the other games, and more subjectively the lore is really scarce and straight forward and the NPCs and their storylines are really lacking.
There is not a single aspect in which it is above any of the other games aside from extremly subjective stuff like atmosphere.

>>181741036
>Licks Dark Souls 2 Ass all day
>Mechanic is not everythung XD
>Fuck Demons fir shitty mechanic!!!

>>181741036
Atmosphere and the fact that is had much deeper mechanics, such as the tendency systems.

The NPCs were some of the most memorable in the series as well, especially Maiden Astraea.

Etc.

>>181741252
DaS II is mechanically superior to DeS, as is every other game in the series
>>181741365
>muh atmosphere and NPCs
nostalgiafagging is not an argument
>muh deeper mechanics
take your shitty e-celeb buzzwords out of here you disgusting tripfag. get off matthewmatosis's dick and formulate your own opinions

>>181735965
DaS2 is garbage so it's not really a loss.

You aren't even getting a >(you) for that one. At least try to put in a little effort to making your garbage believable.

>>181741036
>lore is more straight forward
I don't count this as an inherently bad thing.
The vagueness worked for DS1 but DeS handled it's own lore and setting well enough without needing dozens of youtube faglords to explain it.

>tfw you invade a Solo host but can tell he's a veteran invader

tripfags should be gassed. if you want to be called by your twink name go to a forum double nigger

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>>181740485
please, someone, does anyone know?

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>>181738606
As if it's a single guy, get a fucking grip.

>>181738932
>>181738289
First of all, let me remind you that this entire argument began with the asinine opinion that any level above 50 is basically the same as 800 because you had too many stats and there was no meaningful difference between 120 and 240. Now that I've reminded you and the poor souls that got tricked into defending you of just how fucking stupid you are, imagine I already gave you an alternative for the DSA and a straight sword at that. Longsword which is the best straight sword is just 13 AR below the broadsword Want another meta option? Raw Falchion. Just the other day someone posted a nip guide on how to meme on low level cunts like you - https://youtu.be/QWJhTRnYTf4 . All you have to do is find a low stat requirement infuseable weapon with the right moveset and you're game. DSA just has 50% more AR than basically all other weapons with basic requirements.

Stop posting shit about variety and just admit you're shit. If you don't have stats to carry all weapons and if there's only one infusion viable there's objectively less variety. Add to that the fact that Prisoner's basically becomes mandatory if it already wasn't on 120 and that argument is up shit creek sans paddle. Admit you prefer low level because you're shit at the game and people with less than 20 hours into the game are the only ones you can reliably beat in invasions and you'll sleep better at night.

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huh

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I'm not home right now so these numbers may not be exact but I am sl 35 for sure

how should I proceed with my strength pyromancy build? some of the heavy weapons I'm seeing are too good to pass over so I'm going for that. do I need ALL of the tombs for pyromancies or can I skip some? what's the deal with attachment slots, at what point do I start obtaining more? don't know if I'll attend fcs/co-op or not but it's certainly possible if I need to obey a cap or whatever

>>181742424
What weapons are you planning on using?

>>181741252
What did he mean by this? If you're implying that I ''Licks Dark Souls 2 Ass all day'', I don't, DaS is my favourite

If you're implying that in your made up scenario I'm a DaS2 apologist by saying that mechanics aren't everything but that at the same time saying fuck DeS for it's shitty mechanics, well that wouldn't make much sense because DaS2 is OBJECTIVELY BETTER MECHANICALLY than DeS you DUMB FUCK


>>181741791 (YOU) (YOU) (YOU) (YOU) (YOU)
>can't provide a counteragument
>uhh i know, have le (You)
>aren't I originial
I know that you're a subhuman narcissistic attention whoring piece of sewage who is never gonna admit to being wrong even when your shitty points are blow out the water, but you could at least then shut THE FUCK UPPP instead of shitting up the thread with worthless passive aggressive garbage posts that don't contribute anything to the discussion

How do you even play dex now that poise is a thing?

>>181742674
Poise is still a meme. Just poke them between their HA frames.

>>181742674
you use LKGS with poise

>>181742614
well the exile greatsword looks neat as hell and I think there's another one in the DLC I want to get, Herald greatsword or whatever. so I think my strength needs to be atleast 25-30

>>181742674
You use frayed blade and spam WA R1 whenever Mr HOGGARD tries to trade fish.

>>181735698
>putting the Discord link into the OP
Yeah no, go fuck yourself in the ass.

So is Dark Souls 3 the best in the series?

>>181743005
you're not gonna have a good time trying to use those with 9 vit

Is lucifer a cute

>>181743725
He's a fat black man.

>>181743725
He's the other pair of legs in the picture with onlyaffro

>>181743521
15-20 vit then? I have been wanting to level that but I've been more concerned with my vigor and magic stats

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I miss GFWL.
I miss the times of DS1's prime.

I I want to go int/dex and softcap 40/40 is any sorcery worth using or should I go 20/60 which is a stupid idea because dex/int weapons scale mostly with dex

>>181743352
We OWN these threads
You're with us, or you're nothing

>>181744561
Man I got some amazing hatemail on my 360 back in the day, I wish I took some pictures of them. Just checked xbox.com just in case they're still on there but it doesn't look like it. I wish you could get messages on steam without adding someone. Nobody leaves comments on my profile.

>>181744561
I miss areas having hazards like Sen's and Catacombs. Catacombs of Carthus is shit tier.

I want to play DS3 again now that the DLC is all out there. For my first playthroughs, I fucked up just about every NPC questline in the game. Can anyone vouch for this checklist to get me at least most of the items and NPC events in the game and DLC?

http://zkjellberg.github.io/dark-souls-3-cheat-sheet/

Also, are the guards on the anor londo stairs are a good grinding spot in early/mid game, I remember spending a lot of time there but it was really slow. I prefer to not use cheats, I just want a "complete" playthrough to see the content / get all items before NPCs die, etc.

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>parry a guy with my bare fist
>he gets so mad that he turn on hax and kills me instantly with his dagger

>>181745625
Entire Ringed City dlc is one big stage hazard with amazing opportunities to fuck over the host in myriads of ways.

>>181745752
Haha buttblasted furry pedo

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>>181745752
He still won.

>>181745752
>losing to a dagger
How embarrassing.

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I fucking love these wolves, man

>>181746528
Knot Souls when

What if I told you that the saints bident was the best optimal weapon and build at sl 50 and that it's better than everything else at that level?

When it comes to speed, range, and damage it just can not be matched

>>181746528
>3.66 MB
Damn dude make that into a .jpg next time

>>181746813
I'd believe you because I have no reason not to trust you.

>>181746813
it's a great weapon for high level faith builds and arguably the best spear right now but on low levels it sucks and spears generally suck for invasion

though if someone told me a year ago that bident is going to be top tier i would laugh my ass off

>>181746813
Spear hit for shit @sl50, post proof

>>181746813
Post the build and let me laugh at how you'll either get dumpstered by a throwing knife, swing once and then die because you have no stamina left to roll away from the incoming onslaught or deal exactly 0 damage.

>>181738540
It's actually very good.
It does great damage.
Has phenomenal range.
Explodes with a fairly large radius.

I know you probably mean that it's disappointing for PVP, but for PVE it's a really, really good spell.

>finally done platinuming all the Soulsborne games
>never have to play DS2 again

Feels good, man.

>>181742424
getting more attention to this. done some research and it's gonna be hard to have this build under 130 for what I'm wanting, seems to take atleast 4-5 stats being above 20 to make it work efficiently. what is the level cap here? I sure hope it's higher than fucking 98

>>181738591
Nothing, you're just coming to the mature, patrician realization that you can salvage fun from a game that isn't actually as shitty as the vocal minority of screeching autists on a phillipino paper folding forum claim it is.

>>181748609
Accepted pvp meta is 120, some people do 125. Anything above that and you're shitter.

>>181748504
>Has phenomenal range.
not really, no

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>>181737710
>remaster/remake of it next year.
>high definition superior dragonsis
yes please

>>181748894
>>181748609
You can get away with 140, who's gonna know/care? Give yourself an edge over all those 120 meta cucks.

>>181749010
>who's gonna know/care?
people with CE open

>>181739735
Well played Lucifer, but the real truth is that DS1 simply doesn't go on sale for some weird reason.
I watch it every time a sale comes and every time, it maintains the cost of $20.

It's just fallen into obscurity.
I think it's because everyone who heard about dark souls steers away from it after hearing about all of its pitfalls. So instead the sequels (which logically would be founded upon correcting the mistakes of its predecessors) are more popular.
DS1 is significantly older than SoFTS and DS3.

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>>181749010
All the people who have CE open and check your levels and will then laugh at you for going over just to gain a trivial advantage.

>cucks

>>181749010
>tfw it used to be 95-105 but people kept adding levels

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>>181748748
It's more likely that he just forgot how shitty DaS2 really is. You would be surprised how often the response to me posting this is people marveling at how shitty the game looks, and how they had forgotten just how bad it really is.

>>181748504
PvP is all that matters.

Wow, Aldrich is an absolute joke on a pyro build. Chaos Bed Vestiges is just too much fun.

>>181749237
It doesn't even look like a Souls game.

>>181749237
>first try
>zero souls

Uh huh.

>>181742798
Str can go fasd too Lucy.
Heavy infused daggers and straight swords (and butcher knife) can play aggressively.

>>181749237
How does he talk about the same thing every day, it's not like he's posting a new webm and sharing a different experience, he's posting the same exact webm with the same 'daS2 is shit' paragraph. Is this guy a bot?

does anyone know a good ds2 powerstance combo?

>>181749208
It's been 120-125 since Dark Souls, unless you mean Demon's in which case who cares.

>>181746304
>winning with anything other than a dagger
Casul

>>181749639
It was a 100 in Dark souls

>>181749754
No it was literally 120 and 125 later became popular because of twitch streamers. Japs however did 135 for maximum Havelmom shittery.

>>181749237
Fume was the thing I was most looking forward to about the game. I was always hearing about how hard he was with some people saying he could have been a Bloodborne boss.

To be fair, I think his fight could have been really great if it was in the DaS1 or BB engine.

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Did I do alright, guys?

>>181734531
>thinks
we know

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>>181749513
Why are you trying to defend DaS2 when you don't even know what the agape ring is?

>>181749626
Don't fix what ain't broke.

>>181749732
winning != losing

>>181749864
He was a joke and not BB like at all. The boss after him maybe, but Fume was garbage.

>>181749208
it was 70-80 because people finished the game around that level

>>181749237
I dunno Lucy, DS2 is still a dark souls game.
Also, I am not even remotely impressed that you beat fume knight with the ez mode hammer.
I also don't believe you beat it first try, you don't exactly have a reputation for honesty.
I did a playthrough with the Craftsman Hammer too and the game is drastically easier with it.
Whenever a boss was too hard, I just switched to the hammer and deleted the boss' HP.

>>181748894
thanks.
>>181749010
I'll stay within the cap until I figure out if I like the pvp or not. regardless of that I'll end up doing co-op at some point

updated, how's this look? fuck my phone won't screenshot so here

sl 125

40
25
22
18
30
12
25
40
7

>>181749869
Somehow... Yes.

>>181749330
It will get kinda boring by the time you reach the archives, but it's SO GOOD

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pefect spot for a miniboss and there's literally nothing

why?

>>181750320
why do people hate the archives? i liked it, crystal caves were cool too with the invisible paths

lost izalith was a giant turd though

>>181750460
The crocodog at the beginning of Irithyll jumps down there and attacks you if you didn't kill him before. Shame there's nothing else like an extra one in NG+ though.

>>181749869
yes, good job
next time see what you can do with the other face presets

>>181750590
>>181750320
just realized you were talking about ds3

disregard!

>>181750642
NG+ is such shit. One of the few things DS2 did right with adding the black phantoms.

>>181750642
why was ng+ abandoned as a thing

>>181750804
Because they decided to make it less ambitious like 3 in general and just added + rings and higher value soul items with nothing else.

It's a shame because some areas look like they were practically designed for extra encounters in NG+ areas and it would've actually incentivized going through the game multiple times just to get Life Ring+3 and Sage+2 now.

>>181750126
>DS2 is still a dark souls game.
In name only.

>whining and goal post moving
LOL, you DaS2 babbies are a riot.

>OMG FUME NIT SO HURD
>I beat him with the CH on my first try
>Well, that's only because he is super easy unless you break both your knees and jam your fingers in a blender before the fight

Lol, everytime.

>>181750932
No one takes you or your opinions seriously, feel free to stop posting.

>tfw DaS is the only one that was metroidvania-esque

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>>181739913
Build Variety:
Ds3>Ds2>DaS>BB

Aesthetics:
Ds3>BB>DaS>Ds2

Overall gameplay:
BB>Ds3>DaS>Ds2

Lore:
BB>DaS>Ds3>Ds2

Still haven't played DeS yet.

>>181750590
You misread, CBV becomes boring. Because you're doing nothing but it

>>181751085
>Build Variety:
>Ds3>Ds2
Fucking no

>>181751083
It's amazing how many little things that feel crucial to the design legacy of Souls only occurred in Dark Souls 1.

I guess people talking about how much they loved the hub in Demon's Souls convinced them that was the right track.

>>181750932
Goddamn you're so fucking insufferable, I don't even know why I bother.
You're clearly uninterested in an intelligent conversation.

>heavy parrying dagger
fun shit. is there a better riposte weapon at 66/16 than ledo's?

>>181751221
Reskins don't constitute build variety

>>181751085
>BB Lore better than DS1
Cringey Edgelord

>>181751080
If you really believed that then you wouldn't need to make posts like this one.

>>181751085
>DS2
>99 in every stat is build variety
My sides!

>>181751325
I am always interested in an intelligent conversation, but you are simply incapable of providing that.

>>181751325
you need to stop what you're doing and read the pastebin, seriously

>>181748054
>>181748402
I dont need to post proof. I worked it all out in theory. Its the best due to its reach amd speed and high counter damage.

>>181751467
That applies more to DaS3.

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You can actually see Anor Londo from the cliff after killing Vordt. I think that's even using the DaS1 models/textures.

>>181751331
yhorm or DSGS

>>181751310
And it fucking wasn't. I absolutely hate having to go through loading screens to level up. The MiB ripoff brings nothing to the game.

>>181751618
Tip #1
You're completely correct anon, thanks.

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This guy disturbs me. He's clearly extremely aroused by his position. Just listen to his moans.

>>181751756
that makes no sense
why would they use the old textures if they made new ones for the actual area anyway

>>181752067
Because they're FromSoft.

>>181751504
>If you really believed that then you wouldn't need to make posts like this one.
See what I mean? You're fucking delusional

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Why did they make Crystal Lizards so retarded in DaS2?

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could someone drop me a untrue dark ring on PC? pretty please?

ds3 btw

>Dragon Form
>Flynn's ring
>Caestus
>Right Eye
>roughly 9 units of weight
Once I get the giant ember, I'll make it lightning for my FTH build, but how is that looking, damage-wise?

>>181752640
The bible mentions Dark Souls 2 as one of the iniquities of Satan

>>181752640
You can replace Crystal Lizards with a lot of things and still have a valid question.

>>181752853
get it yourself, it isnt even hard

>>181752853
I don't help Middle Easterners or Africans in general

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>>181749869
is that Flaming Buffalo?

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>>181750258
Thanks.
>>181750669
Tried something a bit more difficult.
>>181753173
I actually used Joosten for reference.

>high wall
Generic boring zombies and knights.
>undead settlement
More zombies but with peasant clothing.
>road of sacrifices
Shittier stupid callback enemies to crow demons from DaS1, more boring zombies but now with sticks, and uhh giant crabs lol.
>farron keep
Shitty crawling slugs, rehashed enemies from previous games, and boring cliche goatmen.
>cathedral of the Deep
More zombies, more knights, and some gimmicky maggot retards. Oh and don't forget the rehashed slimes from DaS1!
>catacombs
Generic skeletons.
>smoldering lake
Rehashed enemies from previous areas and some cliche goat demons.
>irithyll
More zombies and knights.
>irithyll dungeon
Shittier mindflayers and some crawling shit mobs.
>Profaned capital
MEMBER GARGOYLES!!!?!!
>anor londo
Rehashed enemy from DaS1.
>lothric castle
Not a single new enemy introduced. All enemies are from high wall even though this area is majorly important.
>consumed garden
Literal poop monsters that you can only with fire.
>untended graves
Rehashed enemies from previous areas.
>grand archives
Reskinned Deacons but with candles on their heads.
>archdragon peak
Annoying shittier snakemen from DaS1.
>painted world
More knights, more shitty corvians aka demon crow ripoffs and some reskinned dog wolves.
>dreg heap
Shitty DaS2 tier crawling zombies and more tedious fat knight enemies.
>ringed city
More zombies and knights and some dumb grasshoppers at the end.

>>181752047
The key guy was genuinely one of the most disturbing things in the soul series. It made me really uncomfortable.

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>Build Variety:
Ds2>>Ds3>DaS

DS2 has a greater variety of infusions and play styles that your stat allocation can support.
(att was tied to cast speed AS IT SHOULD BE)
DaS gets the lowest score here, but only by a small margin, partially because your stats had literally nothing to do with pyromancies, so anyone could be a pocket pyromancer if they had the attunement slots.

>Aesthetics:
Ds3=DaS>Ds2

This is a very subjective ball field, and I really can't say these ranks are spread by a far margin because all three games really boast great looking environments, armors, and items. Ds2 is lowest here because I think DS3 and DaS outperform it.

>Overall gameplay:
Ds3>Ds2>DaS

Game play wise, DS3 is the most responsive. It feels the best to play because of tight controls. It's fun because you seldom have to wait for an animation to finish to start your next one, the game plays close to as fast as you do.
DS2 has game play mechanics that I like that DaS doesn't, so it's score is higher.

>Lore:
DaS>Ds2=Ds3

Ds3's story is more of a continuation of the past ones. Borderline rehash.
DS2's story isn't much better. Pretty much bear seek seek lest.
Both do their job, each not much better than the other.
DaS has a good story that solidifies the locations and their meanings.
The other games do this as well, and I might be a bit biased having played DaS first, but I believe that one to have the strongest lore in the trilogy.

>>181753916
this one is gross

>>181751743
No

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>>181750028
Oh no, Lucy didn't get him to do Seppeku. Lucy must be low tier!

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>>181754190
{pic related}

>>181754306
>letting someone rob you of your kill
git gud

DS2: Which chime should I be aiming for with 22 Faith if I have just Clerics's Sacred Chime and Priest's Chime?

>>181754190
Sullyvan alone is better than the whole story of Trash Souls 2

>>181753916
I'm not racist but the chin being almost green is a little off-putting.

>>181754404
What exactly prevents you from going max level in other games?

>>181754698
>Ds2

>>181754141
Definitely not remotely the most disturbing thing in the Souls series for me but he's just so weirdly sexual. I'm sure that is someone's fetish.

>>181753916
>making a nigger

>>181754801
Soul level based matchmaking.

>>181754769
Yeah, I do agree that the Sullyvahn lore was really good. Probably better than any one characters lore in DS2. But not the game as a whole.

>>181755072
So? At that SM you'll be matching with max levels or so anyway

>>181755072
>what are down scaled phantoms

>dicking around in swamp, 35+2
>invaded by a watchdog in full piss knight set with grass crest and irithyll sword
>points down at me as soon as i go up to him
>tried to parry my 2h vordt's
>immediately gets frostbitten and dies
>point down at him

>get invaded again
>preacher head with infinite hp
>run while a blue that got summoned deals with him
>pull out ce and give myself infinite hp too
>crashes my game when he realizes he cant kill me

nice to know ds3 went down the shitter real quick

>>181751882
I actually like the Fire Keeper in Dark Souls 3 and the Doll in Bloodborne, but yeah, it was an annoyance more than anything else.

I miss the feeling of being truly trapped in an area. I remember the first time I got down to Blighttown how daunting leaving felt from first bonfire there. It probably wasn't, but that's a design element that has been absent from all the other games. Progressing felt hard, but getting to the bottom without the ability to go buy shit that makes it easier or take a break made for a much better experience.

>>181755072
I don't know how long you've been playing souls games but it costs souls to level up

>>181754894
Considering you facefuck Anri in similar manner, that someone was on the team for both games

People still don't realize the level design in DS1 was the real outlier in the series.

Every other game had a central hub. So wishing DS3 had an interconnected world is silly since no other Souls game but 1 did this.

>>181755636
Bloodborne was pretty interconnected.

>>181755384
It's amazing to me how many people are cheating in Dark Souls 3 this quickly. I probably ran into like under 10 cheaters in two years of playing Dark Souls 2. I get 3 to 5 a day in Dark Souls 3 and most of them are just doing the worst shit they possibly can. Somebody tried that Autopilot shit on me the other day, even.

Consoles are kinda fucked now because of save editors too.

>>181755196
That's the point. There was no point in not being max-leveled for the peak of DaS2's life because you would be matched against max level players anyway.

>>181755335
Garbage. A phantom scaled down to a level 100 host will be worse than level 100 phantom almost every time.

>>181755543
>it costs souls to level up
What does that have to do with the price of tea in China. And before you say the agape ring, that didn't exist at launch, and didn't get patched in until very late in the game's life.

>>181755636
Yes, that is part of the reason why DaS1 is the best game in the series.

>>181755737
Bloodborne is not a Souls game, though.

>>181755849
>>it costs souls to level up
>What does that have to do with the price of tea in China. And before you say the agape ring, that didn't exist at launch, and didn't get patched in until very late in the game's life.
Are you thick in the head?
>first you say the point is not relevant
>then you address the point and say the solution which you know is true is also not relevant
Like you backpedaled twice all on your own

>>181755945
A "Souls" game is defined as one of the games made by Fromsoft that follow in the steps of King's Field, Demon's Souls and/or Dark Souls. Bloodborne certainly fits that.

>>181755636
Yeah, that really changed a lot of the early game. Because if you didn't have to wait behind any loading screens while you traveled around the place until you beat Sen's.

It would be extremely interesting if this sort of thing had been applied to Ds3/BB, where you weren't locked away in some tangental hub, removed from the "real" world.

>>181756039
I wanted to give you the benefit of doubt and not just immediately assume you were retarded. Looks like that was just a waste of time.

>>181755849
Wow you've been really busy posting here so much.
Why don't you take a break?
Go outside, don't worry, we will still be here when you get back.

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>>181756390
he's made of glass

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>>181755849
>because you would be matched against max level players anyway
Only if you played like a retard losing hundreds of millions. By the way, that pic you posted is bullshit

>>181756325
So you lie on purpose?

Can you still get invaded is crucifixion woods if you killed one boss but not the other? And if so does it matter which boss?

>>181756130
A "Souls" game is a game which belongs to the Souls series.

Demon's Souls is a Souls game. Dark Souls is a Souls game. Bloodborne is not a Souls game.
It's not called Blood Souls or Bloodborne Souls or Souls Borne or whatever.

Bloodborne is a Souls-like. It's not a "Souls" game, and should not be compared to the Souls series of games, apart from minor similarities in gameplay.

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>>181756434
That just means I have to be extra gentle with him!

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>>181735698
>Garbage. A phantom scaled down to a level 100 host will be worse than level 100 phantom almost every time.

This is false.

A phantom with 99 in all stats will still be able to wield any weapon, cast any spell, wear any armor without fat rolling, carry many spells, block longer, and swing more times.

>>181756540
I'm 90% sure you have to have Crystal Sage alive, but Abyss Watchers doesn't matter for Crucifixion Woods.

>>181756390
He's a dog.

>>181756668
How come watchdogs don't get to invade in the swamp?

>>181756602
No, you retard. A "Souls-like" is when a company that is not FromSoft attempts to imitate Dark Souls with a game of their own. That means shit like Lords of the Fallen, Nioh and The Surge.

If it's by From, it's a Souls game. If it's not by From, it's a Souls-like.

could someone help me with dancer on pc? pass is dsg

>>181756889
sure. what level?

>>181756602
>"minor similarities in gameplay"

kek, it's the same thing with minor differences if anything.

>>181756796
Guess it was just thought to be a shitty place to invade or be invaded, and it kinda is. Makes no sense from a lore perspective though.

>>181756951
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>>181756805
It's similar to Souls games in terms of gameplay while not actually being a Souls game. It has no attachment to the Souls series. As such, it's a Souls-like. Whether or not FROM worked on it is a different thing entirely.

>If it's by From, it's a Souls game.
Anon...

>>181751882
>playing BB on muh PS4
>go to level up a bit
>loading screen
>[level up]
>loading screen back to where I was
>'oh shit I forgot this stat'
>loading screen
>[level up again]
>loading screen
>'I forgot to put that new gem on'
>loading screen
>[gem]
>loading screen
While I do agree with >>181755405 that having someone who feels like they're there to support you on your journey (in the form of level up waifus) is nice, loading screens to do it can be a major pain in the dick if you have a forgetful moment.

I also have to agree that having warp from the start takes awya that feeling of REALLY exploring deep down into an area, not knowing what you might find and knowing that if you die it's a long way back to where you came from.

>>181757031
fug. I'll try once with this but I might have to switch chars

I never played DS1 but is Anor Londo much bigger there?
Or is it just a few ledges and a staircase?

>>181755849
>A phantom scaled down to a level 100 host will be worse than level 100 phantom almost every time.
Ayylmao
Well Luci has moved on from being wrong about DS1, BB, DS2, Tekken to now being wrong about DS3 as well.

Do you even play these games anymore or do you literally just shitpost on the internet all day?

>>181757224
There's a whole ton more to it. You probably see about a eight to a quarter of it in Dark Souls 3.

>>181757224
You see a lot, but no the actual gameplay area is some rafters, 2 giant open cathedrals, some rooms aaaand your done. Basically DS3 is missing like a cathedral and the small leadup area which connects to dukes archives.

>>181757224
Anor Londo is massive and beautiful. Easily in the top 3 best areas in all the Souls games.

>>181756458
Like I said, the game didn't launch with the Agape ring and SM in DaS2 is based on Souls you ever held, not souls spent or lost

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>>181757346
>>181757426
>>181757491
>tfw no spinoff game set entirely within a properly scaled Anal Rodeo
I just want a game with a properly scaled city environment. I'm fucking sick of "X City, Capital of The Empire!" being like 20 houses and an inn.

>>181757549
Luci I don't think you understand, well I was about to say "How much content you would have to do be able to afford 2 millin + souls per levelup 260+ SL all the way up to SL800", but then I realized who I'm responding to, so I'll just stick with
Luci, you don't understand.

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Is there a lore explanation for why these things can teleport?

>>181757549
True, true. Yet patches have rolled in and Agape is a thing. Most people are playing on a patch that has Agape available. In fact, 100% of the people who play online play on a patch with it available. Therefore, release state is irrelevant.
Is SM a stupid system? Yes
Is everyone or should everyone be 99 in all stats? No
Are you a retarded faggot? Absolutely

>>181757938
time is convoluted

>>181757938
DS3 is shit?

>>181757951
>inb4 p-personal a-attacks

>>181756889
>>181757031
Hey buddy, are you coming or what?

>>181757759
Your gonna be waiting for a looooooooooong as time then, cities in general are a thing that videogames fuck up constantly and will continue to fuck up until we see a massive paradigm shift in general world design.
Nothing worse than an open world game where there is no actual space between villages and towns, only like 10 meters of forest and maybe one river, what the fucks the point of a massive open world if the scales so garbage

>>181757951
I still dislike that they haven't really ever came up with decent matching rules in any of the games. They're all wonky in their own way. Even 3's WL system means that players who're good enough to get through the game while staying at a low SL don't really get any rewards (talking solely about weapon upgrade, here) because they'll ruin their matchmaking if they use the titanite they've found.

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>>181757938

>>181758302
I don't think it's as bad because you get access to +5level rings and such, I just wish you could put some sort of in game softlock to prevent you using weapons upgrades past a certain point, i've got a sl 50+6 with 100hours and i'm dreading the day I accidentally upgrade a special weapon to +4

The best method to fighting Dancer is hugging her ass the entire fight, right?

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>Spiked Mace is my weaponfu
>previous playthroughs
>grind for fucking hours to get the thing
>6 months later
>delete all my saves
>start a fresh run
>the weapon drops from the very first Evangelist kill by the flaming pile in Settlement
>mfw

>>181758302
It's not even the matchmaking, its the rewards.
Your only motivation for invading is just dicking people over you don't really gain anything meaningful for doing it, the best thing for souls PvP would be if there was some really useful resource that you get from invaders and that invaders got for killing a host, invasions should be a thing almost every build at least dabbles "oh man I could really use some more X, guess I should invade/dry finger", people constantly invading each other is whats lacking, the current PvP is basically a thing only like 1% of the playerbase bothers with.

>>181758485
If you aren't progressing in PvE anymore you could probably delet all your titanite, but that's more of a band-aid solution and means you're fucked if you actually want to try out new weapons (excluding collectors edition scripts, obviously).

>>181758659
It'd also be nice if there were better covenant rewards, and/or rewards at higher ranks such at 50 or 99.

>>181757848
So basically, you're an idiot, you have no argument, so instead you are just going to pretend like you had one but are refusing to share it.

>>181757951
>Yet patches have rolled in and Agape is a thing.
The problem is for the vast majority of time the Agape wasn't a thing, and the agape wasn't added until the game was already dying.

It's the same thing that happened with the DWGR nerf. Did they eventually nerf it? Yes, but almost everyone had already moved on by that point, and it is why when people think about DaS1 they still think of people with fuck huge weapons cartwheeling around as family masked giants.

Did I say every was instantly 99 in every stat? No. But there was no reason not to make that your end goal. If you had souls, doing anything with them other than leveling up, or maxing one set of gear, was a complete waste.

DS1 did covenants right but then you get faggots that cry that they can't get every item for their ultimate meta build.

>>181758784
Luci I'll repeat myself, since you are literally incapable of reading.
>"How much content you would have to do be able to afford 2 millin + souls per levelup 260+ SL all the way up to SL800"
But again, as you just proved, like literally in a single post, you flat out don't understand, you are physically incapable of reading a sentence and deriving any meaning from it so you just project instead.
Insulting you feels bad, its like kicking a puppy that pisses itself every day, it just doesn't know any better, its not capable of being better.

>>181758954
>he's still arguing with a retard
haha

>>181758886
Gravelording was kinda lame. It needed the ability to enter the grave'd world as a ghost or something to see the havoc you're creating.

what is the SL 351+ meta?

>>181758784
>The problem is for the vast majority of time the Agape wasn't a thing
No it's not, because only current patch is relevant. It's like complaining about CCS.
>Did I say every was instantly 99 in every stat?
And where did I say you said that?

>>181759074
Havels
Chaos Bed Vests
Sunlight Oath

>>181759046
It needed some tweaks for sure but the basics were down. It was an actual commitment. Leave the Darkmoons? Can't use DMB. Leave the Dickwraiths? Lose the ability of the red eye orb. DS3? Lol just swap your badge bro.

>>181758954
Try reading the post you just quoted. The answer to your question is actually in there, even if you are too stupid to spot it.

>>181759107
>only current patch is relevant.
That's the stupidest thing I have ever heard.

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>>181759325
Please explain how current patch is irrelevant. I've got a bit of time before work.

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>>181759265
Also liked the fact that covenants had straight up penalties for "betraying"/leaving them, like erasing half of your donated items, removing the ability to use spells and reducing covenant weapon damage.

A covenant needs to be a commitment not easily broken. It's in the fucking definition of the word.

>>181758886
Lmao fucking what?
Way of the White was kind of shit and didn't really do much and was replaced by warrios of sunlight later on, at least there you got some miracles
Princesses Guard was stupid because it was after Anorl Rode and O&S, the point where the games difficulty curve started going downwards
Dickwraiths were nice but the only thing you got out of it was humanity that you didn't need since you had 99 soft for a minmaxed build and souls you wouldn't use because you were already at your meta level
Gravlording was shit because it only worked in NG+ so it didn't effect 99% of the playerbase
Chaos servants was mostly a lore/atmosphere thing but the shortcut was sort of nice.
Forest hunters was neat but had the same "what is the actual point of this" issue with rewards
Dorkmoons were good.

That's not even getting into the whole issue that there was almost no reason for a host to set themselves up for invasions if you didn't want phantoms.

>>181759635
yeah whatever, the new covenant system is fine

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Guys please tech support me
Dark souls 3 won't recognize my DS4, except for the touchpad for some fucking reason.

Everything I've searched just says to enable Hide DS4 on ds4windows but that hasn't done anything

>>181759475
I didn't say the current patch was irrelevant. I said that saying that it was the only one ever relevant for discussion was retarded.

>>181759736
git gud

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>>181759736
>trying to use a controller made by sony on a PC manufactured by Microsoft
hmmm
if only you had a controller that actually had drivers for the PC

>>181759763
No you didn't. You only just said that "only the current patch being relevant" is "the stupidest thing" you have "ever heard".

>>181759635
From never fully realized or perfected the covenant system even though they had 3 games to do so. The closest they got was the first, but instead of refining the idea, improving /balancing the reward system, making the choice more difficult, and other improvements, they just got worse.

Shame, it was an awesome concept. They shouldn't even use the word covenant in 3.

>>181759736
Use a Dualshock 3. Dualshock 4 is fucking impossible to get working properly on PC.

>>181750206
>>181742424

I'm gonna assume this will be decent enough for now

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>>181759950
>PC manufactured by Microsoft
but anon
that's wrong

It's also worked before no problems, and works on every other game no issue.

>>181760072
They more or less carried over the covenant system from BB, which was equipping certain Runes. More often than not, you would just take whichever one best fit your playstyle since there were benefits to each, like faster Stamina regen, more health in co-op, you get the idea. Two of them were for the sake of physical transformations, making one weapon go beyond just punches, and giving a new moveset to another.

>>181760248
brrap

>>181758886
DaS1 covenants were by and large broken and experimental.

>Way of White just lets you buy from Petrus at inflated prices at a point in the game where players will have very few souls, the "easier to connect to each other" feature may as well not exist
>Princess Guard is better than Way of White in literally every way, but still had no rank-up system and no real purpose for being
>Chaos Servant gives you some Pyromancies and a shortcut, and otherwise zero other benefits
>Sunbros has arbitrary Faith requirements, and otherwise requires you to enter NG+ for full benefits
>Darkwraiths requires you to play the game a certain way and lock yourself out of Frampt's services unless you use a specific exploit

Credit goes where it's due for laying the groundwork for future, better covenants, but they were mainly a shitshow in the game they were in.

>>181760248
just because i like your taste in lewds
go into ds4windows and change your use xinput from 1-4 to 4-7

>>181759325
>>only current patch is relevant.
>That's the stupidest thing I have ever heard.
not an argument. We're discussing current state

>>181760573
Way of White and Princess Guard broaden your SL summon range.

>>181760069
Keyword there is, "only."

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>>181760663
i agree it's a top tier preference

>>181760573
The Guard also allowed the usage of Bountiful and Soothing Sunlight, and the Faith requirement for Sunbros could be lowered with every boss kill as a White Phantom, some 5 per kill.

>>181760808
Only the current patch is relevant when discussing the current state of the game, unless explicitly stated otherwise any discussion of a game assumes the current patch.

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>>181760808
How would any past patch be relevant in ANY WAY? Are you alright in the head? Who am I kidding, of course you aren't.

Does Bloodborne have better enemy variety than Dark Souls 2?

>>181759265
All that really did was add an additional hurdle in a game full of a bunch of unnecessary hurdles, and a bunch of those covenants didn't even have a true cost of betrayal. You could leave Way of White, Princess's Guard, Sunbros and Chaos Servant whenever you damn well pleased, and re-join for zero penalty. And switching between covenants, or erasing betrayals, just involved visiting an NPC and talking to him and maybe paying a soul cost.

>>181761172
Ironically no, DS2 only has dudes in armor. Unironically yes DS2 has too much shit going on for its own good

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I finally get it lads, I finally userstand how invading works
It's not about out skilling the enemy or defeating multiple phantoms face to face
It's about harrassing them for hours with an obscuring ring and the millwood bow
I get it now

>>181754306

I miss Dragonsis.

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>>181761353
same

>>181761303
Welcome to the true essence of invasions in Dark Souls: being a complete and utter asshole to other people, even if they're on your "team."

>>181758659
You can't even dick people over in DaS3. Wow you killed the host after going through multiple phantoms good job have a [covenant item]
>meanwhile host just re-spawns and re-summons his buttbuddies

>>181760757
>>181760946
>We're discussing current state
Wrong. Check the discussion chain. We're talking about DaS2 at it's peak.

How can you retards forget that already:

>>181755849
>There was no point in not being max-leveled for the peak of DaS2's life because you would be matched against max level players anyway.
>There was no point in not being max-leveled for the peak of DaS2's life
>being max-leveled for the peak of DaS2's life
>the peak of DaS2's life
>the peak
>peak

Top Kek. Now fuck off. You aren't worth my time if you can't even remember basic points of discussion from like an hour ago or if you are retards like >>181760972, who doesn't even understand words when looking right at the definition.

farron keep is such a shithole, I hope there's nothing too important to the right in this god forsaken place

Is the anon who wanted Shiva's set here?

>>181761568
the only useful thing there is the estus shard and the Nameless Knight armor set

oh and the sunlight talisman but other than that you're free to skip it all

Covenants were a mistake. DeS had it right with you just stumbling across the black eye stone after killing a tough npc red.

>>181761505
>can't get this gesture without fucking up Sirris' questline
why

>>181761568
Well, there's two Scrolls, and you'll need one of them if you want Orbeck to stick around

>>181761568
Of course not Kappa

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Are the DaS1 servers still up on console?

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>>181761505
.....
is there more

Do the Soulsborne games have voice acting in anything other than English?

>>181761826
Yeah but last I played there weren't many players.

>>181761537
>#NotMyDefinition

>>181762008
I remember seeing some BB footage in Spanish, but I'm not sure about anything else.
>>181762117
I somehow knew what it would be before I even looked at it.

>>181759662
>only thing you got out of it was humanity
And the ability to infinitely invade anywhere.
Pre-pc version humanity was also SUPER RARE so getting humanities was actually valuable.

Pre-patch humanity farming in DS1 was as painful as Concord farming in DS3.

>>181762140
>not my definition
He is the one that posted it. How can it not be his definition?

>>181761672
I just got the estus shard and got obliterated by what I assume is a nameless knight, had black armor and was really aggressive.

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If I want Reach+Pose Damage+Damage and a defensive weapon art on a weapon I can get relatively early, is Vordt's my only choice of weapon?

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>>181761909
Only some art from anon, i guess...

>>181762008
>Soulsborne
Literally not a thing. Until Bloodborne gets a sequel, they're all Souls games.

And Bloodborne does have Japanese voice acting. It's the odd one out of the five in that regard.

>>181761537
Of course my dear little Luci, have a (You)

Now for anyone else who might be interested in some pretty fucking useless data, you gain 37.5% of the invading phantoms levelup cost when killing them as a host, that is to say killing an invading SL200 phantom would award you 19776 souls.
Now to reach max SL would take 407398297 souls, now with some simple math we can deduce that you would hit the level cap after killing a mere 20600 invading red phantoms, obviously this is something, a trivial number for any seasoned PvP veteran.
It gets even better though, you only gain 10% for defeating a summon sing phantom, and a SL200 phantom awards 5273 souls, which translates to 77261 killed phantoms to reach maximum soul level.

>>181761530
Well the host will lose 30% of their max health so that's one thing.

>>181761537
>I said something at one point
>that means the topic was completely revolved around this
Nice try you fucking snake