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/pso2g/ - Phantasy Star Online 2 General #1291

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■ Current Update (6/21):「ファンタシースター感謝祭2017 ONLINE」Part3
├ http://bumped.org/psublog/three-new-suzuhito-yasuda-characters-join-pso2/
└ http://pso2.jp/players/event/5th_anniversary/online/webevent/01/

■ Next Update (7/5): 「ファンタシースター感謝祭2017 ONLINE」Part4
└ http://bumped.org/psublog/face-a-more-powerful-phantom-battleship-yamato-as-episode-4-comes-to-an-end/

■ Heroes: EPISODE 5 begins July 26
├ http://bumped.org/psublog/pso2-station-9-recap/
└http://bumped.org/psublog/pso2-hero-class-preview/

■ Weekly Boost & Events Schedule
├ http://pso2.jp/players/news/?charid=i_boostevent
├ Google: https://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=pso2emgquest%40gmail.com
├ Random EQ Hourly Advance Notice (JP): https://twitter.com/pso2_emg_hour
└ Regular Maintenance: Wednesday @ 11:00 ~ 17:00 JST

■ Current Scratches: http://pso2.jp/players/catalog/scratch/
├ Frame Arms Replica (until 7/5)
├ Eccentric Girls (until 7/26)
└ [SG] Mother Cluster Imitation (until 12/13)

■ Current Collection Files
├ Driving Rain 2017 (Fornis series, until 7/5)
├ Phantom God (Zeinesis series, until 11/1)
├ Revolutio 2 (until 2018/3/7)
└ Aura (until 2018/3/21)

□ FAQs, Lilipans, Guides, (READ THESE BEFORE ASKING QUESTIONS)
├ General Information/News: http://bumped.org/psublog/
├ Basic English Patch: http://pso2.acf.me.uk/Manual/
└ Buy AC using PSO2es: http://pastebin.com/raDBtSpa

□ Database/Wiki
├ http://pso2.swiki.jp/index.php (JP)
├ http://pso2wiki.net/ (JP)
└ http://pso2.arks-visiphone.com (EN)

□ Simulators
├ Skill Trees: http://arks-layer.com/skillsim/skillcalc.php
├ Affixing: http://pso2affix.seilent.net/
└ Damage Calculator: http://4rt.info/psod/

□ Previous Thread: >>181391860
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less than a month until bullet bow betas are btfo
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splurt splurt
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i want to fuck a cast
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Holy shit a talking dog!
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>>181658837
Fucking furries man.
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>>181658837
>Time for walkies~!
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>tfw no catgloves
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>>181660049
you need hooves with that horseface
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>>181660126
nah, hooves with a paper bag is more my style tbqh family
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Good morning where is ~~tik~~ vol.5 ost
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Which pyroxenes are still worthwhile, if any?
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>>181660748
Just hold onto them for now you'll get a materiel exclusive storage in 3 weeks
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>>181660869
Yeah, but why? If they're useless, I could trade them for weapon badge 2016 to make this 5th anniversary badge grind for Dual Bird slightly less dire.
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>>181656904
I hate those cringe captions that JPs always use with their pictures.
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>>181661079
Wait you can do that? All pyroxenes?
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>>181661313
i think stone trade only takes the small ones, not large pyroxenes.
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How can I work on Aura CFs if we're not getting the featured LQs anymore? Specifically the aura knuckles. Where can you even find a lv70+ Goronzoran nowadays
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>>181662038
lv70 goronzorans are in regular old forest/dragons XQ man, it's like the easiest fucking thing
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>>181662245
If someone is new enough to need Aura I doubt they would know that. If someone is wealthy enough to 8s an aura they wouldn't need to ask.
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>21 days until the coming of the one true god Hero
Are you ready for PSO2 to be saved?
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>>181663601
>Less than 10 hours left until the best EQ is revamped to hopefully be even better
I'm actually hype as hell right now.
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>crafting lines are shared between characters
>the achievements as well as unlocked crafting lines aren't though
????
Is their a reason for this shit?
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>>181664008
pay2refresh, anon
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>>181663796
All those people that will whine over ufos and maybe about hagitos spirit bomb though
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>>181664891
Scratch that actually, just as I unlocked this new crafting line my other characters crafting lines separated.
Maybe I just never noticed it or maybe you need to actually unlock line 2 for the first time before it happens.
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>>181665132
>Complain
>UFOs
>Spirit bomb
I mean UFOs are just not a problem at all and the spirit bomb isn't either assuming you have a basic understanding of this game.
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I fucking hate all of you.
How can a collective of people be so stupid?
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>>181667165
>How can a collective of people be so stupid?
what are trump voters
what are religious people
what are conspiracy theorists
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>>181667368
>what are trump voters
Literally pso2g
>what are religious people
Literally people following classes out of the meta
>what are conspiracy theorists
Literally people saying western release is coming
All of those check in here.
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>>181667730
lilith quit falseflagging and shitstirring. go afk in the starfox section of mother and jack off or something
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>>181667165
What's your GPA and major?
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>>181668371
>3.7
>game design
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>>181667165
Half of the general intentionally posts stupid/confrontational/wrong stuff on purpose and 4chan communities aren't exactly renowned for their ability to play video games well.
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>tfw get banned from the arks layer discord just for saying "jap"
God fucking damn any server with any sort of filter on should be nuked
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>>181668593
Oh so you're the anon who goes full autism every time someone makes a mistake
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>>181670825
>stupid/confrontational/wrong stuff on purpose
>ON PURPOSE
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>>181671030
Or what you perceive to be on purpose anyways. I've seen you flip out a couple of times at the most mundane shit.
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>>181668461
if i were you i'd hate people too
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Running the fuck out of this LQ has made me realize that Episode 4 was fucking trash.
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>>181671197
Like what? I wasn't aware I had a name tag on an anonymous image board
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>>181671354
I mean I said you were the anon who goes full autism every time someone makes a mistake and you pretty much rolled with it. I think the most recent was on boost day about the visual exp cap.
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>>181671512
I'm not him and I pretty much only post lashing out at retards like you.
Fucking dumbass trying to recognize people on 4chan.
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yeah most of /pso2g/ supports trump, so what
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>>181671512
If you consider >>181374684 to be full autism I can see why you think that about me. That last line wasn't meant to be aggressive. Otherwise you confused me with someone else.
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>>181664008
What are you talking about? Every character has separate crafting lines.
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>>181671708
I've gotta find a way to kill time until tomorrow morning anyways let me have my fun
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>>181671759
>tfw there are yasss queen retards lurking this very thread

some of those are my team
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>>181671889
What is yasss queen and how does it relate to Carol Danvers/Captain Marvel
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Why does Hagito have so little HP? I blink and he's defeated already.
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>>181671889
>>181671759
>>181671794
>>181671805
>>181671858
>>181671512
>>181671354
>>181671343
YASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
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>>181671794
Look at the other replies to the one that one is replying to and you'll immediately see who the conversation is about.
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>>181672027
Hilary supporters war cry
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>>181672178
Ah. That explains it.
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>>181657426
I want to FUCK Lang
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>>181671343
>Stating an opinion without backing up argument

So how long have you been autistic?
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Are the Nox weapons basically the best thing I can get until I can start on collection sheets?

Also why did they bother leaving the exchange counters full of old type weapons?
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Fuck, where did my life go.
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>>181674020
Over how much time? I think I'm up to 2700 hours over 2.5 years. MMOs are too good at being cheap entertainment, if I quit PSO2 I would inevitably just play another one.
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>>181674185
Less than 7 months.
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No luck with Vol.5 OST so far... =S
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>>181675215
Just buy it o3o
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>new world's enemies are weak to light
My Fornis TMGs like this very much.
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>>181676758
>Fornis TMGs
but why
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>>181673712
>Are the Nox weapons basically the best thing I can get until I can start on collection sheets?
There are other decent 12*. Some of those Nox weapons don't have very good potentials, if I recall.

>Also why did they bother leaving the exchange counters full of old type weapons?
They're pretty hesitant about straight-up removing anything

I mean fuck, up until relatively recently you could still get Urban Recovery or Subdue Fang Banther in the EQ rotation. Desert Guerillas and Mega Mecha Awakening are still there, even.
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>>181676832
best TMG's in the game
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>>181677071
>Desert Guerillas
Worst EQ ever made.
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>>181677289
no... the other harukotan one

the one where you need to chase Anjadu riri while taking damage from the dark mist

that one was universally disliked
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>>181677435
ARKS Ship Fire Swirl XH
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>>181677435
I had tons of fun chasing those wheels as a bouncer for some reason, but I can imagine it being tedious for other classes.
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>No anga in the upcoming LQ
The game will actually be playable again
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>>181680438
make pso2 casual again
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Solus so flat, everyone else is trying to cheer them up.
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post your last screenshot
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>>181681342
YOU"RE SUPPOSED TO TELL THEM IM STRAIGHT NOT THAT SHIT
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>>181681342
Why are their so many lobby thots in this game?
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>>181681442
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>>181681442
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>>181680438
I don't know why this general flips out over anga so much, I've yet to have a group not be able to deal with him quickly. If anything that means you aren't doing enough because I've gotten anga to resist multiple of my weapon types despite being the only person playing that class.
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>>181681812
more chocolate goodness
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>>181681483
I was going to but my finger slipped and I ended up typing that instead.

Sorry for being clumsy.
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>>181681442
Remember when these were highly valued?
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>>181681442
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>>181681964
that means your mpa is shit, not that you're good.
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>>181682352
And yet anga dies pretty quickly every time which is the whole point.
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>>181681442
I forgot to hold CTRL since I was in a rush.

>>181682207
I remember you letting one die.
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>>181681442
/la tasty is a very cute LA and everyone should get it, just like Emilia pose.

Also lolis should still be removed. Same with space elves.
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>>181682352
Do people like you post simply for the sake of being upset?
Are you seriously that upset someone isnt as bad as you are dealing with anga?
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>>181682565
Half the people here have a stick permanently shoved up their ass and are always looking for a reason to lash out at someone or give them false information. I swear I only come here because there are so few options for English-speaking PSO2 discussions.
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>>181681442
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So what are you doing during maintenance /pso2g/? I started playing Hollow Knight a couple of hours ago and it's fucking fantastic
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>>181682565
If anga resists more than one of your weapon types at any one time, and you haven't hit him with that weapon since he changed resistances, it literally means 2 people in your mpa are doing nothing at all, or you're grouped with 3 people who are all using the same class/weapon.
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>>181682749
I've noticed that. Their seems to be someone lurking these threads just to lash out at whatever gets posted, regardless of what it is. MMO players like to hold nonsencial grudges but what I really want to know is why?
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>>181683169
Probably going to spend time with the wife and kids before heading to bed
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>>181682457
I'll show you something テイスティ
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>>181683424
Or maybe their like 90% of the player-base that doesn't have more then 1 weapon type.
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>>181681442
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>>181682749
Why is this community so awful? I have been in many and this one really stands out to me as a bastion of horribleness.
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>>181684139
It doesn't sound like you've been in many
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Is there a retard proof guide on what the fuck all these stones do or what is worth it on the collection sheets?

Right now I'm still running around with Nox and saiki.
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I went to AX and found this.
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>>181681483
ARK Agent Solus, I have some important work for you in the upcoming months.

1. On the new area you are entering we have located an exact duplicate body to the one I've lost. I would ask you to retrieve him with as little damage to the body as possible.

2.On the planet you should make one more important note. There are many orcs and goblins that live everywhere along the planet. Unfortunately, we were extremely low staffed and we had to send the group female Newmans that were still in training to scout the area undiscovered.


I'm sure there will be no problem but we need you as a back up in case everything goes wrong.
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>>181686309
Did you buy it? Will you be our savior and upload it?
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>>181686309
>want doujins with Afin and his sister
>probably never going to be scanned
My heart is an abyss of sadness.
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>>181686309
Scan it you fucker.
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>>181676121
I would... If it were available digitally somewhere in the web...
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>>181686309
Scans please!
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Do we know how good the enhanced Yamato potentials are yet?
Wondering whether to keep my Zenesis files or jump ship to Yamato since that EQ will probably be a lot more frequent for a while
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When does the EQ schedule go up so I know when to wake up for big dick yamato?
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>>181688563
They're only good for Stat VIs
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>>181688563
They struggle to be better than Astra let alone Zeinesis.Stat VI SAF though
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>>181690968
>>181690630
Good, that means I don't have to bother with what is easily the worst """boss""" EQ in the game.
14*s are never going to drop anyways
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>>181691039
>I don't have to bother with what is easily the worst """boss""" EQ in the game.
That's about the stupidest thing I've heard someone say in this general
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>>181691114
Yamato is fucking trash my man.
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>>181686396
Solus is a dildo.
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>>181691158
I'm not even talking about your trash tier taste in EQs
Do you have no need for meseta? Do you have all of your gear affixed to a solid degree? You always need excubes and Yamato shits them out.
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>>181691340
I still see no reason to switch over to 12* units and have lots of money sitting around.
So no, I'd rather not bother logging in just for Yamato.
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>>181691478
>No reason to switch over to 12* units
uh
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>>181691556
Austere+a 12* leg is still the best stats in the game, and very few classes need more than 2 L rings.
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>>181691635
Isn't all Qliphard better now
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Which gunner build is the best for damage?
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>>181691556
Rings are nice, sure, but not nice enough for me to warrant spending 200m+ to throw comparable affixes to what I have right now on there.

>>181691696
Not if you don't care about Rings, no.
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>>181691696
Not if you main bow.
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>>181691696
lol
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>>181691871
give it a few weeks and nothing will help bow :^)
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>>181691696
Austere+Quilf 230HP 43PP 95ATK 8/8/9 resists
Austere+Union 265HP 39PP 85ATK 8/9/11 resists
Austere+Izane 330HP 30PP 80ATK 10/11/11 resists
Quilf x3 120HP 39HP 105ATK 5/5/5 resists

In short, no not by a longshot.
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>>181692406
I need to stop falling for pso-w memes
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What twin dagger PA combo has the highest DPS?
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>>181692920
Quick March>Orchestra or Wild Rhapsody type 0>Orchestra. Quick March is slightly higher DPS but it moves you up and doesn't allow for horizontal movement.
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Don't mind me, just going to be the best DPS tech in episode 5.
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Japanese bird playing the guitar.
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>>181686451
>>181687340
>>181688559
so thirsty
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>>181691478
>>181691807
>It's better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than open it and remove all doubt
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>>181681442
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>>181694114
Rappies are as American as apple pie
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>>181695507
looks like something out of an old mario 3D game
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When will we get a suit of the OG rappy?
Pal Rappys are under appreciated.
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>>181695507
And a Ryougi Shiki
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>>181695697
Looks like Green Hill textures from Sonic Generations
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>>181681442
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>>181695449
Revelle is cute. CUTE!
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>>181695752
>this nerd thinks that shit is the OG rappy
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>>181686396
WHY would you send a group of female Newman ROOKIES to that territory without MALE NEWMAN BACKUP? IM GOING TO WRITE YOU UP AFTER I SAVE THEM
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>finally a sweet-looking futuristic full helmet
>locked behind bonus scratch
FUCK YOUR RIBBONS AND TATTOOS SEGA
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http://pso2.jp/players/catalog/scratch/ac/20170705/

New scratch details are out.
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>http://pso2.jp/players/event/5th_anniversary/online/report/weapon/
>Izane most popular unit set
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>>181697948
wow its shit
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>>181698046
>Gix only 3rd in most of these
Nips are pussies
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>>181698201
*switches to orbit*
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>>181698046
The ranking is filtered to only 12*
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>>181698046
>stealth most popular mag camo
I never noticed because they literally don't stand out.
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>>181698463
Is sega seriously so dumb that they still don't understand that their 12* units aren't better than hybrid sets?
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>>181698721
I'm surprised. Personally, I haven't seen any stealth mags at all.
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>>181698721
It's a fraction of a percent ahead and they're all pretty low
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>>181698463
When will get finally get a 12* arm unit that isn't locked behind RNG?
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>>181695315
I'd buy more pso2 doujins if they were for sale on dlsite.
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>>181681442
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>>181699253
Gix arm, anon.
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>>181699484
You managed to get uglier Magik!
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>>181699539
It's RNG when half o the people in Ultimate Amduscia are shitters who bring along their subclass builds like they expect an ult quest to help them level up, and most of the people in your team aren't playing regularly.
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>>181699484
Your eyes are a bit too close together. Spacing should be one eye width apart.
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>>181699060
They understand perfectly
It's forced deprecation
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>>181697285
OH GOD OH GOD!
THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A STEALTH MISSION!

The lawsuit from the humans was in the billions for all that Nasa gear destroyed on the moon by Deus.
I don't think any arks fleet leader could take a lawsuit now for harassment or assault. Please save the orcs.
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So... it just occurred to me, with Hero using multiple weapon types, each with different attack stat requirements, what the fuck are you supposed to do about a mag?
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>>181700672
DEX
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>>181700701
Don't meme on me, anon. Come on, be serious.
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>>181700780
Dex
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>>181700672
i would probably say to split your mag too 100 striking/100 range

the talis type weapon has good utility but im guessing the TMG/Sword will do more.
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>>181700845
If you want to nerf your talis DOTs, sure.
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>>181700965
well then what would you suggest?
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>>181701149
Probably dex, desu. They haven't made any mention of it but I find it hard to imagine that it wouldn't have a dex mag skill.
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Dont listen to the faggot who keeps saying hero should use all stats.

The only reason to use all stats is because "the devs said so" which amounts to nothing except hyping a new class

Switching weapons in the middle of a fight lets you build gear faster but its never stated that you should switch between all 3. As far as we know, you could just use 2 and focus on one of them specifically. The hero finishers will also have a 2 min cooldown so there's no specific reason to rush building that gear

On the other hand, we do have experience with classes that can use different attack types and we all know that just maining one of them is the best way to increase dps

imo, just pick a main between sword or tmg then use talis for utility and gear building
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>>181701449
>On the other hand, we do have experience with classes that can use different attack types and we all know that just maining one of them is the best way to increase dps
well subclasses were a big reason for that
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>>181700672
>>181700701
>>181700845

guys

look back at their latest video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZRPlUq4Ud0

the heroes aren't using any mags at all, mags might have no effect on the class
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>>181701637
you dont see them using accessories either

does that mean heroes cant use accessories?

omg they dont have units too
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>>181701637
>what is an invisible mag
i think being flat has infected your brain
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>>181701747
HEY THEY TOLD US NOT TO WORRY ABOUT MAGS

SO THIS IS A PLAUSIBLE EXPLANATION

GIVE ME YOUR NAME I WANNA LAUGH AT YOU IF IM RIGHT YOU PIECE OF SHIT

GIVE IT TO ME
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>>181701816
id: halfthesky
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>>181701798
YOU TOO GIMME YOUR NAME

WANNA FUCKING BET BITCHES>>>>?!?!?!??!
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>>181701449
>The only reason to use all stats is because "the devs said so" which amounts to nothing except hyping a new class
And the fact that the literal entire point of the class is using all 3 weapons in one build?
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>>181701816
>>181701912
how about you give your name first because you're the one making this outlandish claim
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>>181701946
How is it the point? They're just showing what you can do, not what you SHOULD do. Remember the subclass PV where they showed off HU/FO and HU/RA? They do that shit all the time.
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>>181702047
Uh, the fact that they have PAs that literally do just that? Those wouldn't exist if it wasn't the point of the class.
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>>181701946
>And the fact that the literal entire point of the class
Prove it
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>>181701984
ID: HalfTheSky

THEY DON"T EVEN HAVE A PHOTON BLAST ICON ON THEIR SUBPALLETTES

IM GOING TO WIN YOU WHORE

GIVE ME YOUR NAME NOW
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>>181702125
See: >>181702093
You guys are fucking desperate holy shit lol
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>>181702195
And like I've said, you can just use 2 weapons (a main + talis)

There's no point in using all 3
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>>181702285
How exactly do you look at the weapons trailers and think that Sword/Talis or TMG/Talis could cover every niche better than Sword/TMG/Talis?
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>>181702285
You can't definitely claim any of that until we actually have our hands on the class
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>>181702347
>using trailers as proof
>in this day and age
See, this is how I know you're a moron.

My build and weapon choices are based on actual game experience. Yours are on hype trailers.

>one of those faggots that scream "USE EVERYTHING"
when was the last time you used all PAs/Techs available to a class?
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>>181702543
Uh, so did you not watch the trailers or what? They showed off every single Hero PA in detail. We know what all of them are and what they do. Those aren't hype trailers at all, dude.
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>>181702347
>>181702617
Sega advertised Braver as a class that can use both katana and bow and switch between them on the fly. In reality the best braver builds are either a pure bow build or a build that uses katana the vast majority of the time.
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>>181702717
Okay, what does that have to do with the fact that we know all of what hero can do, and that all 3 weapons have their own niche that they fill, and thus know that it would be best to use all 3 weapons?
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>>181702617
How does knowing what each of them does help your point?

On contrary, it actually helps mine
>There are literally PAs that let you switch to a specific weapon
>You can just use sword/tmg, switch to talis to apply DoTs/get increase gear build, then switch back to your main weapon
>literally no reason to use the 3rd weapon

Again, prove to me that you need to use all weapons. Even Fighters dont invest in all 3 of them thats why they're getting buffs
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>>181702798
Because for many classes with multiple weapons like braver, if you specialize in a niche that a weapon fills and capitalize on it, you can make the most out of it and maximize your damage potential instead of being a jack of all trades and master of none. Hero may very well end up the same way.
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>>181702798
>and that all 3 weapons have their own niche that they fill
Which is?
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>>181702835
>You can just use sword/tmg, switch to talis to apply DoTs/get increase gear build
Which is using all 3 weapons??? Sword attacks are almost all exclusively single target or have a very small AoE, with the exception of the slide end clone. TMG PAs almost all have mobbing oriented attacks, other than its normals. Talis has DoTs that stay on weapon switch and teleportation.

>Even Fighters dont invest in all 3 of them
Yes they fucking do? What fighters have you been seeing? DS for mobbing, TD for safe/vertical bossing, and knux for other bossing with SC0.
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>>181703038
I hope to god they had the foresight not to make that mistake yet another time.
Hero could be really cool if they balanced it properly, if it turns into just another one weapon only class you will literally just be spamming the same PA over and over

>>181703140
The problem is Hero uses different attack stats, it's not really the same as FI where everything is just SAtk and only needs 1-2 points on the respective gear and misc skill to be at max output.
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>>181703251
You lose only a small amount of attack while making all atk units. I would assume they have a way of helping with mag stats as well, so that really isn't that much of an issue.
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>>181697948
Is that noble power I see?
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>>181703140
>Sword attacks are almost all exclusively single target
wrong

>have a very small AoE
wrong

>with the exception of the slide end clone.
I love how faggot made this an exception just so could make his retarded excuse sound correct

>TMG PAs almost all have mobbing oriented attacks
wrong

>Talis has DoTs that stay on weapon switch and teleportation.
DoTs have never been good primary source of damage in this game. They have teleport and switching to them increases gear acquisition rate which is why I said they're utility weapons that you should switch out as soon as possible.
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>>181671759
They're already all human garbage for playing a mmo, might as well be fascists too :^)
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>all atk units
Geez, just use one unit from each of your S/R/T-ATK builds.
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>>181703424
It's cool how you say wrong but give literally no examples as to why it's wrong. Also yes I gave exceptions where there are exceptions, but those don't make for maining material. Also I literally just said in that post that the DoTs stay on weapon switch. You set up the DoT and then switch to your primary damage dealer for the situation. It isn't that hard.
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>>181703467
>3 100 all atk units=300 all atk
>1 of each atk unit at 150 a piece=150 all atk
hmmm
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>>181703523
Go watch the vid again.

Both sword and tmg are used for mobbing and bossing.

What now? Are you gonna pull more exceptions out of your ass to prove you're right?
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>>181703689
So you're not going to provide any examples then, and just insist that you're right.
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SERVERS UP
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>>181703754
>and just insist that you're right.
Because I am.

If I throw an apple up to the air, I am sure its going to come down.
If sega makes a class that allegedly uses different attack types, based on previous classes released(bo and br), we can safely make the assumption that it will perform better by maining just one attack type/weapon instead of using everything available to it.

You're the one who needs to prove your point.
Here's a fun fact: there isnt a single clip in any of the vids where the player uses all 3 weapons.
Its always just limited to 2
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>no Qliphad fuse in Xie's shop
I don't know why I bothered getting my hopes up.
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>>181704614
So what they added instead?
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>>181704363
Are you seriously that stupid? Those videos are for showcasing the specific attacks that Hero can do. The only reason they use 2 weapons at all in any of those clips if showing off the PAs that can switch weapons.
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>>181704939
>Those videos are for showcasing the specific attacks that Hero can do
So basically you still dont have any proof while mine has been in the game for years.

Thanks.
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>>181705054
What are you even talking about
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I don't really see the point in making the new Yamato require 75/75

I mean wasn't the whole point of this to be baby's first raid boss to begin with
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This new LQ is cancerously difficult.
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>>181705590
gitgud
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>>181682457
Where does the la come from and whats the actual ticket name for it?
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>>181705590
>try it as fo
>get 3 compounds off before the first part is clear
>get a few more on second part
>get fucking DESTROYED by exoda on third
>clear 4th with 30 seconds to spare
>fail fifth
got 500k exp tho
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>>181706485
magazine shit
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>>181706485
>>181707112
304「テイスティ」
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>>181707112
>>181707191
Thanks
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21 days until we wish it was still Episode 4
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>>181707069
>all those compounds
Only 13 more days, pal.
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>>181708179
21, you mean. Either way, that's why I'm capping it now, not in 3 weeks.
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>>181705590
stun, stun, kockdown, stun, stun, massive attack, dead.
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>>181708110
nothing in ep5 can be worse than the awful high school bullshit
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>>181708110
Ep5 would be better with kohri as the mc
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>silver and gold bikinis
>they didn't revive the others
Why is sega fucking retarded
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Why is this board so fucking dead?
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>>181711307
we're all online waiting for yamato to start.
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>>181711307
This board isn't dead at all
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>boat guy is barely different
>still piss easy and boring
This disappointment will only be trumped by ep5's release.
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>2 eggs
I fucking love this yamato.
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I hope we didn't lose the summer EM because of this shitty revamp.
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>IMPROVED YAMATO
>Hagito still dies like a bitch
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>>181712362
we did
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What the fuck is this AIS fight
This is easily the least fun thing I've ever done in this game
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>>181712493
Please tell me you're pulling my leg.
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>>181712646
ezgewww...
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>>181712646
we lost easter to shitty vr td.
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>>181712701
>>181712771
I feel about as bad about this whole situation as ghoul Xeira looks. I liked VR but not more than Eggman.
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>>181712362
Beach Wars always runs in August
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>the same attack patterns and mob summoning, only twice
>ICBM phase still the same, only with more nukes for that cheap "surprise!" factor
At least the ship puts up a bit of a fight now, but not what I'd call difficult.

Still found it fun.
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>>181712646
>8 fuses
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>>181713010
I only got four...
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>>181712873
>all seasonals are now buster quests for episode 5
would you still do it
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>>181713092
That doesn't make any sense
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>first day
Bbut my calculator says only 1 should drop every year!
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>>181713585
Oh, fuck you.
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>>181713585
EXPLODE
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>>181713585
who cares it's not DS
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>>181712997
Oh when loser phallus does double swords it's "wow cool! neat" but when otaku boatman doubles up his nukes it's a "cheap surprise"
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>played ep2 LQ countless times with my other character
>but because I never did it on this character I have to play it just to unlock the new LQ
Fuck off, Sega.
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>>181714193
Well, considering how easy it is to knock a nuke away compared to destroying a bird priest sword, the surprise loses its luster.
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>>181714487
swords are way easier, if only because they don't reduce non-melee damage to nothing
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>>181714585
I guess, but either way, I don't mind it.
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>>181714585
not to mention you only need to take out like one or two of them and have everyone huddle up in the safe quadrant after
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If I uprgade +10 pot3 oldschool weapon into newschool weapon, will it come out as +10 or +30?
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>>181714840
It's a mystery! We'll find out in a few days once someone has enough fuses
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>>181714840
I'm more worried about the grind cap.
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>>181715143
More like after the next yamato. These fuse rates are crazy, walked out with 11 from last eq
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>>181715208
that might be a bad sign
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I have a leftover Yamato trigger
It occurred to me that even if it starts up the old version, it should still fill the gauge on a file, right? The boss isn't different like it is for Gracia.
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>>181713585
what the fuck
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>>181713585
class skewed drops are a lie
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When was the last time they even scheduled this EQ?
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>>181716034
14* drops have no class bias for drop chance.
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post underboob
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>>181716159
May 22

Almost the entire month of June was devoid of any scheduled Mining Base Defense except for a single VR at the end of the month
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>>181709529
The story would be better without Hitsugi.
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>>181716523
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>>181716034
14* seems to use the same mechanic as XH-exclusive 12* (Halva Tornado, Zirenheit, etc.), which is a separate "lottery" that the class drop thing doesn't apply to
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>>181709428
>generic fantasy with the most generic-ass fantasy monsters they could make
It's already worse
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>>181716976
You forgot that it's technically isekai.
>Luther pulls out your character sheet out of the ass and start wondering what kind of class Hunter is because they only have Warrior there
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Damn it. Did SEGA even mention that they would be removing things from Xie's shop completely? I figured that they would have just added new stuff to buy instead of swapping things in and out. I didn't get a chance to get the accessories.
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>>181717172
I'm not sure they were clear about it but I think that the shop did have a July 5 deadline displayed on it, if I'm not mistaken, which could be construed as a warning about an outcome like that
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>>181717172
They've done it this way before
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>>181717309
Fair enough.
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>>181716889
>that earslip
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Does the new LQ drop more fuses than the ep4 one?
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>>181717497
you actually need to have a competent enough party to clear it, so no.
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>>181717497
the only thing it's dropping more of is SHITTER
BODIES AM I RIGHT BROS?
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>>181717309
>>181717360
Is it possible they will have a way to get those items in the future? Have they done that before?
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>>181717660
It's possible. I mean a lot of the miscellaneous stuff in that shop (and the current one) were actually free giveaways from before
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Why does Sega think we need 75/75 for Yamato? The mobbing half is still piss easy. And the AIS part is fucking AIS, everyone has equal "gear" during that.
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>>181717801
>tfw can't piggyback on randoms with my non-75s anymore to level them up because I'm too busy to SHAQ
Fucking SEGA
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>>181717801
When Ultimate Amduskia first came out 75/75 for that didn't really seem necessary either (but maybe it was in retrospect, looking at how much of a shitshow non-expert XH EQs can be).

At least in this particular case, it's more for the privilege of being able to do it really, same with the 80/80 AIS only(?) rematch on the 19th
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>>181717801
It's sega, if they release a new system, you bet your fucking ass they'll be implementing it in everything going forward.Why the fuck the 5th anniversary LQs have a 999k damage cap is fucking beyond me. Expect anything after buster quests to have 80/80 cap.
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>>181718562
>Why the fuck the 5th anniversary LQs have a 999k damage cap is fucking beyond me.
Correct me if I'm wrong but the damage cap is intended as a temporary measure for Deus Esca until they implement the more permanent class nerfs

So since that's not happening until EP5 starts, everything new like the LQs get it too? I guess?
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>>181719104
>temporary
it's here to stay, mark my words.
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>>181718562
>Expect anything after buster quests to have 80/80 cap.
They'll probably keep doing the 75/75 with optional 80/80 rematch thing until at least December I think
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>>181719252
can we get a 4 man mama rematch already, or hell even better a solo mama trigger?
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>>181716976
I'll take phantasy star fantasy over how fucking atrocious and pointless any story board involving earth was for the first few few months, not to mention the shit characters

at least EP5 will have Luther right out the gate
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>>181718562
Remember challenge mode?

I sure don't
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We fucking made it lads.
Dreams really do come true.
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>>181719671
challenge mode isn't a system like the damage cap or level cap requirement. It's content. I wonder what happened to Riding and Ultimate quests.
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>>181719858
nobody liked the former, the carrot from the latter was in collect files.
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>>181719858
Amdu gets MPA during boost week and sometimes during the regular weeks if there isn't an LQ going round like now
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>>181719417
I'm sure it'll get some kind of update at some point but it probably won't happen until 2018, going by EP5 and these collect file expiration dates. I don't think they'd use December thing for Mother again instead of some kind of new EP5 thing.
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>>181719858
Damage caps and level requirements are more aspects of a system rather than whole systems in and of themselves.
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Any heads up regarding the 12* lq unit?
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>>181721673
Pretty glad you can stealth it, it looks like a giant's circumsized foreskin normally
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>>181722001
How is it stat wise?
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>>181721673
it has 50hp/10pp/40 attacks, 5/4/4 (or 2/4/4) resists for s/r/t and comes with soul catalyst pre-affixed.
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>>181721673
40 all attack, 10pp 50hp, defenses slightly lower than izane
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>>181713585
Just to make sure hero can equip that 14*?
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>>181723226
Hero can equip any TMGs, but it won't be able to take advantage of this weapon's potential since it won't be able to use chain trigger.
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What the fuck is wrong with fo/te?
I can't do shit on it effectively besides TA.

Am I doing something wrong? All my other classes outdamage and outplay my fo/te.
I mean the damage can be alright, but I can't defend myself or attack constantly for shit.
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So is Zenisis still what I should be aiming for in terms of raw damage?
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Why won't they let us put PAs on our subpalette?

The situations in which I want to use reverse tap are extremely unlikely, but it's incredibly useful in those specific circumstances, but there are plenty of other PAs that are even more useful so they beat it for the PA slot.

Alternatively, fast weapon switch when? None of this bringing up the palette shit, just take me to my next weapon without letting go of the mouse or reaching across the fucking keyboard to hit a numpad key.
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might be unrelated but how many of you guys actually working day job?
just started and it crushed my soul
i wished i stayed home and play pso2 all day
now i barely have time to play
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Swimsuit? More like fugsuit.
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>>181724285
I'm self-employed, but I know what you mean. My friend's got a jobby job and I don't know how the fuck he'd ever have time to do gathering, weeklies, dailies, EQs, and ideally do it on alts, as well.
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Was Anon pulling my leg or is Gal Gryphon really in one of the LQs?
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>>181724285
I used to have a job, I still played the fuck out of pso2. I hated my job so chillaxing with pso2 was my escape. now I'm unemployed but for some reason I still play it when i have better games I can play.
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>>181725284
>tfw you drop like $120 getting a big pile of games you've wanted for ages on the Steam sale
>drop another $15 on premium on PSO2 and play that non-stop instead
>still haven't touched my summer sale games
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My wife Xiera is super cute!
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>>181725406
buy sonic cd while you're at it if you haven't already, hell everybody should buy it if they dont have it, it's a fucking dollar.
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>>181725242
It is in the latest one.
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>>181723453
>Am I doing something wrong?
Maybe? It could be any number of things. Can't really be sure without actually seeing your tree and how you play.

>>181723823
Pretty much. I don't think anyone would bat an eye at a juiced up Yamato weapon though

>>181724268
Maybe one day. I don't have any issue taking my hand off the mouse to tap a numpad key though. I guess I've actually done typing training for it before helps but I really can't see it interrupting anything important unless you're a lefty and have the mouse on the other side for some reason

I mean I wouldn't personally recommend this but if it really bugs you maybe you could go for one of those programmable MMO mice with the shitload of buttons on the side?
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Qunachan at the beach!
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>>181723453
fo/te requires you to be "overgeared". You need at least 3500 t-attack unbuffed and must have all of your techs crafted. On top of that you want to shoot for at least 180pp this lets you cast 6 ragrants in a row. You will not perform well as force unless you up your T-attack mainly.

And to think, Sega wants to nerf this already difficult to gear class.
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Is there a trick to getting the bonus effect when updating the data drive on timed abilities?
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>>181726074
Latest? The LQs right now are special training episodes 1 through 4
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>>181726832
The Episode 1 through 4 one unlocks after you've gotten an S rank in each of the four individual ones
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>>181726881
Oh, neat. Guess I'll finally be able to get my aura weapon
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So about how many kills of yamato does it take to finish a CF?
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>>181727423
I just did two this morning and the first two boxes were already completed, probably because the items dropped right away (Ether Fuses are pretty much guaranteed?)
The last box (any enemies) was like 49%
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>>181727574
Neat. Are you still gated to 2 kills or is it just 1 now?
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I just got an one hour advance notice on PSO2es for DF Apprentice

Is Demise on the random rotation now?
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>>181727709
Two runs per scheduling, like before, yeah. I had to leave afterwards so I wasn't able to do the one that happened just now.
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>>181727709
still 2, but now it has a level requirement of 75/75 for XH.
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>>181727853
>>181727929
Awesome so if ether fuses are that common you'll pretty much finish a cf per eq pop? That's fucking insane.
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>>181727742
https://twitter.com/pso2_emg_hour/status/882616320944099333

we did it, shit 2
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Do we know the potentials yet?
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So the aura weapons will be my first 13* weapons. Is getting those to +35 for the level cap unlock fine, and just slowly working towards Zeinesis or Yamato weapons in the meantime? I'm clueless right now, all this endgame shit is new to me; all I know is aura is farmable right now while the others are not.
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>>181727981
To be dead honest, if the OT conversion works at pot3 +5 > +35 NT, I'm not even going to bother with the files and just use the kagaseo stones I have in storage to make the fodders I need.

Also stat 6 factor = +45 attack.
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>>181728140
Get an Aura, 5 slot it and unlock it's hidden potential
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Did this update break controller setup for anybody else? My character straight up won't move to the right now and nothing I do seems to fix ti.
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>>181728435
5 slot?
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>>181728645
Give it 5 affixes
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>>181728435
Also, is there some method to efficiently grind 13* weapons? I remember seeing something on bumped about grinding other weapons together to use as fodder or something. I've always just stuffed weapons full of emper embrace fodder after I max the affinity
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>>181728828
Is there a guide on how to do that? What affixes are good?
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>>181730161
Basically you take an NT 12* (usually Nox, with those being common) and grind those up to turn around and use as grind EXP fodder

Doing it this way more efficient with lambda grinders, but it will definitely cost you way more meseta in the long run

On the flip side, just throwing any piece of shit you find into the 13* directly will cost you more lambda grinders but is cheaper

It basically boils down to what's more important between the two as far as efficiency goes
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>>181730591
I have 133 lambda grinders and my rings are already +20. Is that a lot?
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>>181731206
It's enough
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>>181728645
Give us a link to the Vol.5 OST
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>hero rings start popping up
>tfw its automate/limit break
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do people still cq?
will i get banned if im bad?
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>PvP
>Arena
PKing in a free field expansion soon?
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>>181735812
How would you explain it to the ARKS management though.
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I know how to delete my character, but how do I delete my account?
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>>181736279
Not possible.
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>>181735295
fuck automate. the hero class in general is a good chance for melee in this game to get away from that shit
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>AIS saber
Do we know how the potential scales yet? Is it just a linear ~2.6% per affix or is there a base % damage that it then builds off of?
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>>181737017
In this new LQ automate is almost mandatory along with massive hunter. Face it, in this game there is too much shit that you can't avoid. On top of that these ep4 enemy are obnoxious with homing attacks and wide aoe with stuns and bullshit. Sega will only make them more crazy in the future.

Better yet make automate universal.
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>This Neudaiz music
It makes me wish this game was more like PSU was. It just doesn't have the same feeling.
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>Decide to do some XH LQ
>Join party
>Gunner using a 20 element zein rifle completely ungrinded
some things never change I see
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>>181740603
>New LQ hasn't even been out a day
>It's already dead as fuck
Why?
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>>181740838
nobody wants to waste 20 minutes of boosters on a pub that'll fail.
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>>181740978
>Fail
Is it hard or something? I'd imagine it would go smoother than the past 2 considering there's no anga for shitters to deal with.
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>>181741093
it's some high tier bullshit if you're with shitters. Your standard expectations are also thrown out. A quick rundown:

Start: kill everything, period
Second: kill everything until bibras, then focus bibras only as everything else will just despawn
Third: kill everything, when magatsu spawns nobody gets into an AIS and everybody nukes exodas first, otherwith shit goes south fast.
Fourth: kill everything real good. Mostly wind or light weak here.
Fifth: kill shit real good.

Basically, Killing enemies instead of bibras wastes time, gal gryphon can waste huge time if it starts flying all over the damn place, and if you jump in an AIS all the exoda stop focusing on magatsu and start focusing the person/people who did, and it becomes a cluster fuck trying to kill them with magatsu attacking you in the meantime. You also have a mpa AIS limit of 20.
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>can't play the game for long without needing breaks
>my friends already outleveled me twice
>too inept to get decent gear
>feel useless in EQs
why must being a casual have to be so suffering?
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>>181741407
>Entire LQ people are dropping like flies
>Revive as many as I can
>They keep dying
>Run out of time on Esca ragnus
I hate this game
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>>181739864
heres a (You)
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>>181726573
>make a fucking rainbow pallete
>affix 200+ PP
>buy multiple skill trees
>spend a metric shitton of time and money just to get 10% more damage on your tech craft
>after all this, your class finally does top tier damage
>lol that's broken time to completely gut it, says sega
They're fucking retarded.
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>>181743840
>I want to play with my wallet
>WTF why is Sega nerfing me
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>>181681442

i need to take new pictures of myself
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>>181744034
>have an absurd gear requirement to actually be good
>people put time and money into it
>nerf it into oblivion while buffing the other class that does more damage and has piss easy gearing requirements
This applies to bow, too. You can't even argue that that was broken.
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>>181744452
"Class is overpowered when geared godly", still translates to "class is overpowered". Don't worry I also await for inevitable Fighter nerfs.

BTW Fighter is still harder to gear up than average due to both needing PP and HP on units + Izane fishing.
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>>181744643
Izane isn't really necessary though
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>>181744865
There are other choices but you still want a 12* set with good defense. Actually new LQ has some good units so whatever. Still wants you to fish for good units.
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>>181745067
Needing defenses assumes you're getting hit. You're not actually getting hit, right anon?
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is there an outfit like this (or kinda like this) on the game? there are scarfs but i haven't seen any costume that comes close to this

but i am autistic so i need help, maybe i overlooked something
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>>181745469
Doesn't count as getting hit if I can't feel it through my super armor
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>Doing LQ having fun
>Shitty TD gets announced
>Everybody bails to do it
Why do they even bother with it it's all worthless
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Is the Quotz talis worth getting / upgrading for hero?
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>>181746224
It certainly has potential given the stupid range Hero's talis attacks seem to have so you'll regen PP pretty fast. The damage bonus is alright but it's certainly serviceable.
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Are any of the ether boosted weapons any good? I personally don't want to run boats revamp ever again unless the incentive is a dramatic increase.
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>>181747164
>don't want to run boats revamp ever again
I haven't done it yet but why? It looks really fun.
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>>181745682
maybe the apprentice outfit? it doesn't show much skin but it has 2 flaps on the back
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>>181747353
But it's pretty much the same as before.
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>>181747548
The original was really fun too so it makes sense.
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>>181747637
>The original was really fun
You have an odd sense of what is fun. It's the same boring boats. The revamp didn't add any difficulty.
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>>181747831
A lot more fun than fighting Deus(Let me just tap the JG button on your slow ass attacks) Esca.
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>>181747932
>A lot more fun than fighting Deus
Once again, you have an odd sense of what is fun. Deus was pretty fun the first week when he gave scrubs the cane.
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>>181747164
it's an easy million exp per eq window.
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>>181748341
I wasn't around for the introduction because I was taking a break but I don't see how. He telegraphs his shit more than rockbear does.
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>They're making a new class that is basically a combination of the current classes.
How are Sega getting away with this, I hope the Japs are shitting on them for being so lazy.
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>>181748428
Indeed but if you fucked up you were fucking dead.
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>EP 1 LQ is back
Back to failing to get a coat edge camo
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>>181747430
i've found mufflers that fit the bill on the, well, muffler side

i still can't find a costume that comes close to it

and i'm shit at improvising something
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>>181748685
I agree. It's fucking stupid and it can't even sub.
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>>181749249
the etna replica has similar boots i think but that's about it
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>>181748685
fuck off ledouche
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Is Hu/Br dragonslayer meme still a thing?
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>>181750132
Not a wrong statement though.
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>>181750191
Died
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>>181750132
>he's still grinding for his autismere
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>>181750191
Probably.
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>>181748685
>that is basically a combination of the current classes.
Beyond them using the same weapon types it's not the same thing at all. None of them act in any way similar to how they do on their normal classes.
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>>181724397
at least it isn't in any of my colors
>>181726535
i want quna at my room, on me.
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Astra units drop from omnibus lq
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>Farming the fuck out of badges
I'm ready to be disappointed on the 7th.
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anyone know of a good r-atk affix recipie for something like 95/11?
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>>181748685
https://twitter.com/renren0070/status/880139904079904768
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>>181752624
holy fuck this is pathetic
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>>181752624
they should've just copied red mage and deleted bouncer
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>>181752624
>literally kirito class
haha have fun playing a class for faggots

REAL MEN are going to play HUNTER and FIGHTER
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>>181753048
Real men play knuckle Fi
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>>181753048
>Kirito class
That would be bouncer and fighter using TD anon
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What's easier to level, Summoner or Force?
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>>181753572
Br/Bo
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How does the difficulty work in the new LQs ? is it like before with a 2 player difficulty and a 4 player one?
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>>181754656
It scales to the number of people in the MPA, yes. Like all quests that do that, having 4 people is the best option.
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Post your predictions as to what's gonna happen in ep 5.

Go.
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>>181755237
>Granblue Collab
>SAO collab
>Possible Yasuda collab with danmachi stuff
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>>181755237
We're actually in PD's stomach hence Luther
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>>181745682
>メルレットカリーナ[Ba]
If you're ok with the white legging thing, not sure if there's more color swaps
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>>181753549
real men that care for DPS play double saber
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Are there any special titles for doing the LQs solo or something other than just clearing them with others?
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>>181751783
Do we know anything that's going to be in the new shop yet?
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>>181756156
THEY
ARE
N O T
SOLO
QUESTS
Y
WOULD
THEY GIVEYOU ANYTHING FOR SOLOING THEM
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>>181756264
The first 4man LQ did have a title for clearing it on XH solo, but the current ones do not. Only for clearing at all, and S-ranking on XH for each.
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i-is it worth going back after 2 years?
i'm left with no games to play and summer is just a PSO2 season for me, also what are the possibilities that my old account got deleted and that i can't access my character anymore?
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>>181743840
Honestly I don't even care if Force becomes a middle of the pack class if they actually made Force more FUN. I've already done everything you listed, I'm a Fo main by nature. Even still I'm 10x more ass blasted that they're making force even more boring to play than any actual nerfs. I can't wait for Ep5 when Force will consist of spending 1/3 your time running in circles with an orbit.
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>>181755237
It will be worse than ep5. Scifi settings downgrading is the cornerstone of shit. We went from Scifi to modern and now we're going from Scifi to medieval. Ep4 was trash and so will Ep5.Buster quests look more fun than Boat at least.
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>>181748428
He also had a whole lot more hp in his 5 minute phase, to the point that only expert blocks were beating him, and only half the time.
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>>181755610
i looked at this one and it seemed to be the closest i can get without having to do some layerwear stuff


thanks
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How is zeinesis damage compared to gix?
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>>181756583
yes
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>>181757851
Use Zein / Cliff unless you're confident in your ability to not get hit consistently.
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>>181757851
about the same
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>>181757851
Slightly less than maxed gix, but on 100% of the time. No restrictions (swap weapons all you want), no buildup. Also gives a bunch of extra HP/PP if you happen to have any of that affixed (say from Astral Soul or Ether Factor or whatnot)
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>>181758292
>>181758383
>>181758457
alright thats all i wanted to hear
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>>181758276

and my character?
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What's the best way to fill out any enemy lvl 1+ portions of CFs?
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How the fug do I download ES? On my phone.
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Maybe it's because I'm playing Hunter and I'm extra susceptible to getting endlessly juggled while my mates all get flushed down the toilet, but the Ep4 LQ and the Ep4 part of the new LQ are both absolutely maddening for me. It's incredible seeing all the content through the game's life side by side, and then you get to Ep4 and it's enemies with infinite super armor who relentlessly attack while providing no openings and inflicting the most debilitating status ailments possible.

When I got to those faggot human enemies in the new LQ, it all just came to a grinding halt. I was just endlessly encased in a cube, I'd mash space and flip back to my feet, then get encased in another fucking cube, and so on and so forth until I was dead. Who the fuck designs this content? Who finds this fun? Yeah, you know what'd be fun? Some fucking faggot knight that spams zonde every 0.5s so your only option is to keep mashing evade for like a minute, and if even one of them hits you, you're instantly stunned and hit by every other zonde in the sequence. WOW. SO MUCH FUN. JUST LIKE DEUS HUNAR'S FUCKING ENDLESS 100% STUN INFLICTION ZONDE SPAM INTO THOSE FUCKING ROOTS FOR A OHKO. WOW, SO MUCH FUN.

FUCKING FUCK EPISODE 4.
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>>181759440
That's on you. I'm a Hu as well and I have not been trapped one time yet.
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>>181758835
accounts dont get deleted for inactivity
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>>181759440
Get air reversal ring
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>>181759440
I've been playing as a hunter without iron will for a while. I play as summoner normally. I have to exert about 20 times as much effort to achieve similar results. Yes, everything is very melee unfriendly, but its not crippling.
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>Virtually no gathering news for months
On one hand I'm glad they don't do much with the system, but on the other hand I want more rings. If they're going to destroy bow they could at least give them a ring finally or something.
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>>181759675
>I've been playing as a hunter without iron will for a while.
Is this not the norm or something? I never even began to think about getting iron will because Hu can just tank shit all day anyways.
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>>181759614
Reversals aren't the problem. Stuns are the problem. All the fucking Ep4 enemies inflict stun, and if not stun, confusion, so I get stunned or confused and have to find some way to get a fucking breather for like 5 fucking seconds so I can use a sol atomizer, but every Ep4 enemy has stupidly aggressive AI and is clinging to your ass non-stop and oh my god OH MY GOD, JUST THINKING ABOUT IT MAKES ME SO FUCKING ANGRY.
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>>181759928
>Sonic arrow ring
>Healing guard
>PP guard
You're a Hu. If anything you're among the top 3 classes in ease of not getting your shit pushed in or hit at all. Suck it up and learn to JG.
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>>181759440
is this pasta from reddit or something
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>>181759928
Git gud.

Abberation Dragon EX is fucking bullshit though, I'll agree with you on that.
>swings arm lightly
>you are stunned lol
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>>181759440
>play ra
>can't do anything at all while massive hunter is down
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>>181759928
Imagine how the ranged classes feel if you're having trouble as a HUNTER with the clingy, aggressive AI.
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>>181760292
>>181760164
Ranger and Gunner are my mains. I fucking know how bad it is. I'm leveling Hunter because I need to level my subclass.
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>>181760381
>Not even on XH
>Having trouble as Hu
The problem isn't the class it's you
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>>181760475
Not him, but
>need to level my subclass
does not mean he's on SH or less.
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>>181760381
>leveling
>in the ep1-4 quest
fucking why? just run the ep2 quest
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>>181760590
Because collection files.
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>>181760578
If he's leveling hunter that means it's not 75. That absolutely means that he's not doing XH.
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>>181760721
>75 is the level cap
???????
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>>181760839
>Actually grinding to 80
Gross
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How does the OT turn in work? If I turn my 10603 seiga weapons into Zieg, does he hand me a fresh garbage +0 NT or does any grind carry over?
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>>181760926
>not being an autistic completionist faggot
???????
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>>181760074
I have none of those things, though I had 2 SP to spare so now I have the latter two. Sonic arrow ring means no hunter gear save though, because I have no 12* units yet.
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Swiki hasn't updated, which new weapons have Stat VI as the SAF? I have zero interest in using any of the new weapons, I just want to get some SAFs and go back to Zeinesis.
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>>181760381
at least gu can lolfly
ra is literally
>wb slut then have 50% uptime on existence
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>>181761249
>Hunter gear save
Literally the biggest waste of a ring in the game
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>>181760934
Apparently, if you have a +35 OT Seiga weapon and trade in; you have a +35 NT version. It's either that or +40 OT, either way, you get grind converted over.

Which also means that if you just do the OT CFs, you don't have to collect 6 of each weapon to get the SAF as if you were doing NT, you can just get one and pay up 20 fuses for the conversion (after you cough up the meseta for grinding, good use for those grind skips you might have. Only do the grinding during a post-eq grind boost like Mother or Deus).
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>>181761249
JG arrow is better than Gear Save assuming you're a typical hunter that mostly uses sword. Gear Save only matters for partizan.
>>181761335
Sega wonders why ranged classes are so unpopular compared to melee meanwhile they're doing this to even more classes in ep5.
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>>181761451
>>181761523
Really? Then what am I supposed to be doing, just JGing everything for free sonic arrows and heals?
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>>181761460
>Cough up the meseta
Gonna be real I need a +35 to get into expert blocks. How expensive is it to pull off finishing the OT and then converting it?
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>>181761460
Fantastic, glad I saved my old Seigas then. I won't have to give up the Zeinesis I'm working on for SAFs.
>>181761601
JG Sonic arrow is a hilarious amount of dps (by sword standards) if you run into something that lets you JG a lot. Healing guard is pretty nice considering it only costs 1 point.
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>>181761601
IGNITE

PARRYING

NO MATTER HOW MANY THERE ARE

NO MATTER HOW STRONG THEY ARE

NO MATTER HOW MUCH MONSTER ASS THERE IS ON YOUR SCREEN

NO MATTER HOW LITTLE HP YOU HAVE

NO MATTER HOW FUCKED UP THE AGGRO IS THANKS TO THE PARTY GU

THE ROAD TO VICTORY IS ONE

IGNITE THEM
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>>181761601
>Do I get my ass kicked or do I parry things
hmm

You have plenty of time to fit in PAs while you're doing shit. Use ignition parry, guilty break, and nova for human enemies. Ignition parry also has the ability to JG in the middle of it to give you a big dick damage boost so it works even better.
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>>181761654
Well, OT grinding was about 200K meseta + 3 lambda grinders per try, if I'm remembering correctly. I'd only recommend doing that if you have grind skips to save some cash. You only need the 20 fuses, the weapon and then take it to Zieg for the conversion.

>>181761808
Don't forget about the stones you get from bonus keys, I think it was about 200 of them for a 20 ele or some shit (which doesn't matter if you're only using it for SAF fodder).
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>>181761814
I'll do it, anon. You've inspired me.
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>>181745869
14*
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>>181762454
lol
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>>181761808
>JG Sonic arrow is a hilarious amount of dps (by sword standards)
It's actually half true. Swiki chart assumes time from JG to JA sign. The JG invincibility is like 60F and time to JA is 40F so if you plan to spam one after another the isn't that good. Swiki chart also while accounting for the loss of Hunter JA skills doesn't account for TAJA so you can in a lot of situations take 15% off the DPS.

The power of JGSA is the fact that you can cut many PAs after all the hits land but before the JA window and perform PAs while the JG Arrow invincibility still lasts. If you have an attack that you can string guard you should be betting on JGSA -> Ignite Parrying rotation, just keep in mind that invincibility will still last 20F from the moment you activate Ignite Parrying out of JG Sonic Arrow (not accounting for how much your JA input is lagging behind)
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>>181762454
>Literally sub 0.01% odds you as an individual will get a 14* drop in an EQ run.
>>
Yamato gives me a white screen after the boss dies, couldn't pick up any drops. The only reason it didn't soft lock to the point I had to close the game is because my party retried the quest that pulled me out of it.
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Is there a good place to find guren zombies outside of the EQ? If so that's pretty much a guaranteed CF clear per EQ pop.
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>>181763107
>>181763359
It's higher than the LQ's 0%, so it wins
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>>181763908
No.
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Boredless.
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>>181761601
hunter gear save is really good for sword don't listen to them, hunter really benefits from having multiple 12 star units so you should work on that
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>>181763908
They only appear in the eq, you could do triggers I guess
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>>181713585
gib 14 db
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>>181763620
Whenever you get something strange like this, the first thing you should do is check your game files

>>181763908
I'm not sure whether it shows up in the LQs but it might?

Other than that possibility, that particular zombie unlike the other two only appears in Yamato, two stages of the EP4 solo XQ, and EP4 story quests (won't drop items there).
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>>181764326
I need a +20 JG sonic arrow ring to slot into a 12* when I get one anyhow, so it doesn't hurt to get it and try it out.
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>>181764451
I just use it over hunter gear save now. Mostly cause fuck 12*s.
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>>181764451
Slot hunter gear save into the unit retard
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>>181764781
Right, whatever.
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>>181764451
yea JG sonic arrow is also important, but having both makes your life a lot easier
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>>181764326
Hunter gear save is fine but not if you have to choose between it and JG sonic arrow.
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>>181764430
Guess I need to farm SH LQ after this then
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>>181764883
Swiki says four of them show up in All Episode but zero in Episode 4
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>>181764872
I definitely see your point, it's just that i can't really imagine playing without both anymore
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>>181755237
another fate collab to capitalize on that FGO popularity
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>>181764305
Big boat
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>12 people in yamato group
>I kill 6-7 missiles in the raid wipe phase
>We still get blown up
What the fuck have people just gone retarded between pre update yamato and now
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>>181765158
>Only 4 per run
I'm beginning to question if this is worth it. Do you know how many it takes to finish that part of the CF?
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>>181765771
Honestly have no clue. For me the item I needed for it dropped immediately
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>>181766318
Do you know if you were on XH or SH? This LQ is honestly fucking impossible on XH in non expert blocks so that's never going to happen.
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>>181765551
Fross a cute.
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>>181765771
Even heavily boosted, the rate is complete shit. The best option is to wait for Yamato EQs for that. I think it's about 2-3% even with 125% tri, donut, daily and 250% rare. It's shit, especially considering how long the LQ can take per run for such a small % amount. They also spawn in a solo XQ but even then; there's only a couple.
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>>181766648
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>>181766518
Oh shit, I'm sorry, I should have clarified
The 12* weapon I needed dropped from Yamato like after one or two (XH) runs, so I never had to run the LQ and couldn't tell you how many runs it would normally take to fill the gauge on either the EQ or the LQ.
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So, garbage hunter here again, how rare of a drop are the circ units? I just realized besides +10 Kaiser, my third slot is a piece of the Fahren set from before I got Kaiser, which is probably not great.
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>LQ1 dead
>LQ1 dead
>LQ3 dead
>LQ4 dead

How am I supposed to complete this bingo card wtf. How can this game be dead after a major content patch?
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>>181768414
Just solo it on normal?
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Since no one has posted all the values yet, here's what my progress was after one EQ period (2 runs). Boosts used were 250 RDR + 100 Tri + 4 man Party + 50% Tri Donut. Not bad but personally I'm just going to keep doing Zeinesis and just get SAFs by using my OTs.
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>>181766769
Other mobs that drop the item count too - the 12* rod for the quotz rod file drops from rat phamuts, for example - I got ~2% progress from SH train ghidoran with a 250% booster. Probably faster than SHLQ, might be even faster to just do tokyo explore depending on the mob in question.
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>>181769431
>didn't get a single ether fuse
I got like 8 last run what the fuck
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>>181769562
I got 5 without 250
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>>181769562
I'm this anon >>181763620
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>>181769670
I'm just amazed he didnt finish the ether fuse part. I didn't even know that was possible.
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Is it true that i need 5 marons to be optimal at su for solo and mpas or can i stick with 2-3?
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>>181674020
>Only 1.8k hours played in a 5 year old Japenese-grindfest """""M"""""MORPG
What are you, casual?
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>>181769431
Did you break the crystal at the end but not actually pick up anything that came out of it?
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>>181769836
Maron is getting nerfed hard in ep5, don't bother getting more.
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>>181769984
>>181769715
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Reminder that the quest clears with a success even if you kill nothing for the LQs. You can solo them on any difficulty and get bingo credit.
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21 days until playing ranged is literally leeching
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>>181770153
Oh, I see. That makes sense. To the game servers you're still present when the thing breaks so you get progress but you can't pick up anything that happens to actually come out of it
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Someone could probably clear the Kagaseo stone just by running Tokyo once or twice, right?
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>>181751783
I thought it was updated already.
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>>181770296
Reminder to save your badges because Xie's shop changes in 15.5 hours
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>>181770474
I actually logged back in to a 13* since I have auto pick up enabled too. Your character is always present unless the connection is terminated. While cutscenes and victory photos happen everyone's characters are standing in blank space while the victory area loads.
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Seikaizer potential is 11% damage up, 5% damage received reduction, full heal on intervals, barely any different.
It's 1-2% weaker than Astra, but much much easier to +35, since OT to NT upgrade always comes out +35 cap, no matter what.
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>>181770743
>since OT to NT upgrade always comes out +35 cap
That's good to know.

I assume that NT to NT will just maintain what it had? Or does it get the 35 treatment too?
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>>181770651
Tokyo primarily gives you stones as emergency trial rewards, those don't count as drops.
>>181770743
>No matter what
Are you saying handing in a completely ungrinded OT will give you a +35 cap weapon so you don't even have to bother with doing the old type grinding? That's insane, there's no reason to do yamato files if you don't actually need the weapons. Without touching the sheets I already have over a dozen OTs in my storage.
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>>181770669
I mean I haven't personally checked but based off of the text she has above her head and the person who posted right below you I would assume it updates in a while.

>>181770743
>OT to NT upgrade always comes out +35 cap, no matter what.
Wait what? You're telling me I can buy a shitty 10% element from the stone shop, upgrade it, and immediately upgrade it to +35 for expert block reqs? Thank god there's a chance for me yet.
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>>181770962
>Tokyo primarily gives you stones as emergency trial rewards, those don't count as drops.
But they can drop as actual drops, can't they?

Or am I remembering this totally wrong
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Should I be worrying about collection sheets or anything when I'm level 51 and are advanced quests the best way to level?
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>>181770976
>Wait what? You're telling me I can buy a shitty 10% element from the stone shop, upgrade it, and immediately upgrade it to +35 for expert block reqs? Thank god there's a chance for me yet.
>>181770962
>Are you saying handing in a completely ungrinded OT will give you a +35 cap weapon so you don't even have to bother with doing the old type grinding?
Yes to both. Expert block requirements got even more pointless.
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>>181770976
The ones in the stone shop are 15 element
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>>181768414
That shit even worth doing?
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>>181771171
>Expert block requirements got even more pointless.
Not at all, most of these are very decent weapons
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>>181771171
Well that's good. The +35 was the only thing holding me back since I was only able to get my Zein to +33 before the Yamato upgrade.
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>>181771465
Give it a week or so, Deus Esca will start being scheduled again
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>>181771425
>Not at all, most of these are very decent weapons
You're right but if you do the method they're talking about you can get into expert blocks with sub 20 element on your weapon which would honestly be worse than non expert blocks.
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>>181769987
Oh i was just asking since i have 6 of em from Xmas 2016 and i only had one candied along with using melon
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>>181771664
It's still probably not worth it because of how hard Maron is getting nerfed + Chain no longer being subclass usable.
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>>181771596
There are nine scheduled this week
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>>181771781
I guess its a blessing in disguise for forgetting to candy more than one of them then
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Why isn't Mother in the LQ weak to light? I thought she had Falz powers or some shit.
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>>181771980
The darker factor is being suppressed and controlled
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>>181771980
She does but at the point where she fights you in human form she's trying to suppress them, so they aren't affecting her.
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>>181771980
EQ Mother and the real Mother are two different entities.
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>>181772219
Story Escafalz was "real" and has the same light-wind weakness as the EQ version
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>>181772371
That was after the dark falz energy took over her body, though.
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>>181772371
I think it's time to finally ask this question: What does ESC-A stand for?
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>>181771171
Honestly expert blocks aside this is a really good chance to get the 10% damage titles for each weapon
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>>181772567
That must be hell to get on a new account. I started around ep3 launch and I didn't have that title maxed for every weapon when they added it.
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>>181772529
Is it even supposed to be an acronym? Japanese loves to randomly ALL CAPS things
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>>181772943
ARKS is an acronym. I'm expecting anything at this point.

Artificial Relic for Keeping Species.
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>>181773119
>Relic
It's Artificial Relict to Keep Species
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>>181773268
I thought it was because it was so old... Did you SEE Jean? An artificial relic if I've ever seen one
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>>181772529
The "A" is probably Aether
At least officially that's how they've been spelling it
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>>181773406
Makes more sense than calling it Ether.
>inb4 it's Ether Shouldn't be Called-Aether
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>>181773567
It's the same amount of sense, but, "Aether" is the spelling that was used in the cut scene where Adam was spewing exposition after you first made contact in Vegas
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>>181773567
It actually makes more sense from a pronunciation standpoint as well. I've never heard someone pronounce ether with an "eh" sound before.
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>>181759057
Look for an app called ES Tweaker,its an apk that i think is on arks layer. Run it and tap install pso2, and then install English patch.

Re patch and install the app from the tweaker when ES pushes an update
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>>181774852
>>181775047
>>181775216
You're a beautiful robot. Thank you for these.
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>>181773765
>Adam
Don't you mean Ardem?
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Hey Phaleg, how come your Mother lets you be in TWO limited quests?
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>>181777557
because she's the best girl in this game full of trash tier waifus
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>>181777557
She has big tits and her LQ team is literally oversized tits and two creeps.

Cater appears more often tho
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>>181763620
file check, dont use english patches.
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>Vita sword camo in web panel 2
FUCKING FINALLY
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>tfw you get an aetra set trom this new lq
Wew
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>>181780318
>Vita sword camo in web panel 2
Happiness.
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>Try to farm some ep 1 LQ because I want that sweet sweet coat edge
>People join
>Ask if we're going to party up
>Invite
>Rejected
>Place party maker
>Ignored
>Ask for an invite then
>Nobody makes a party
What the fuck do people just not want a tri boost I don't understand the community on this game
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>>181781650
Becuase you're a piece of shit lilith
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>>181781729
I'm not your boogeyman and don't start this shit show again
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>Always time out LQ before killing Deus
Why are these "expert" players so shit?
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>>181781224
Fat
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>>181781795
>Lilith this asshurt
Pottery
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>>181781941
>3:15 on timer left on XH block after completion
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>>181781984
Healthy
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>>181781987
I'm so jealous how Lilith is the boogeyman for this general. He must've really ruffled some feathers for that and probably people that deserved it.
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>>181781224
That's a penis
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>Another shitty TD
>Another 30 minutes to an hour of LQs being dead
They need to just remove these fucking things
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>>181782606
>out attentionwhore the old avatarfags in the discord
>Avatarfaggedd in the discord
>Somehow became more annoying than rayles (rip)
>Shitposted the general nonstop for a year
>Managed to get blacklisted by SEES
>Deliberated got kicked out from a reddit discord for being annoying, shittalking "pro" players
>Playing like garbage in pugs
>Shitposted a furry's art stream
>Joined Night Arks and the thread as well as redditfags sperged about him being able to join them
>Recently called two people from the discord scrubs and told them to fuck off
>Pugged mother with someone from this general and afk'd in the starfox segment and the same person sperged about 2 threads ago
He did a lot of shit
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Goddammit I hate you all so fucking much
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>>181783308
>Pugged mother with someone from this general and afk'd in the starfox segment and the same person sperged about 2 threads ago
I can't forgive AFKing. That's disgusting.
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>>181783308
Nobody cares, he's not even the most loved avatar fag or the most hated. What a coincidence that he stops replying and people who know allll about him like you suddenly show up shortly after.

If you were so proud of yourself, you wouldn't have wiped your hentai twitter.
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>>181783671
That infinity team caters to the lowest of the low in the ship.
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>>181783780
Nice boogeyman
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Do you get anything for completing the episode 1-4 LQ? I've been trying all day and can't seem to get a group good enough to do it.
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>>181783780
Who's the most loved?
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>>181784008
Eharima
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>>181783973
Just the usual 50 SG for s ranking it on XH
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>>181784042
BULLSHIT
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>>181784042
lolno

>>181784008
Clostco
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>>181783780
>>181784008
>>181784042
>>181784116
>>181784140
W H O C A R E S
H
O
C
A
R
E
S
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>>181781650
>Ask if we're going to party up
Did you do that in English?
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>>181784223
>doesn't quote Lilith posts
Sorry, Lilith/Sinclair, but this isn't your fanclub.
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>>181784392
Yes but everybody there was an ENG player so that should have been no problem.

>>181784418
but I'm a Hu/Br
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>>181783671
>>181783893
It has come to our attention that a few of our members have been leeching/AFKing in pugs, calling people scrubs in said pugs as well. As one of the team Managers of infinity we would like to say: We give no fucks as to what our members do in pugs, on this site, or wherever else. As long as they remember not to do such things in organized parties. We do not care, thank you

t. Infinity staff
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God this general is a fucking travesty
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>>181785002
It's because I'm not whoring out my character.
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>VR EQ
>No orbit sheets available
What's the point?
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>>181784575
>Yes but everybody there was an ENG player
How do you know? Also personally if anyone says anything in English in pub chat outside of an organize group I wouldn't want anything to do with them.
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>>181785701
A couple responded verbally to me asking to party up but nothing came of it. I don't get the whole anti english stigma anyways you realize you're an english player yourself right?
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>>181785825
Yes but it's just a common tell of a shit player who doesn't know anything about the game. JP players can have regular romaji names, so you can't ever be sure, and it's rude as fuck to talk in English with random JPs around.
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>>181786018
Nips dont even fucking care that much, at worst they'll blacklist you
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>>181786018
>rude as fuck to talk in English with random JPs around.
That's probably the dumbest thing I've heard today
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>>181786340
That doesn't change the fact that it's an incredibly basic rule and the people who can't even follow that are probably garbage.
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>>181786586
Substantiate your claim
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>>181786586
>Rule
Sega knows westerners play this game it's not some super well kept secret nor do they give a fuck. People can talk all they want.
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>>181786717
>>181786786
Social rule, not game rule, you fucking idiots
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>>181786853
So its not a real rule then? Gotcha
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>>181786853
>Social rule
So you're projecting your social awkwardness on a weird honor code leading you to be unable to talk on others, got it.
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>>181786950
>>181786954
You have very poor grasps on how social rules and social punishments work, huh.
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>Dead LQs
Sega needs to kill off TD now that buster quests are coming
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>>181787074
>Social rules and punishments
>For speaking in english
SEGA does not give a fuck, Nips dont give a fuck. The only time that shit carries weight is if you act like B1 spamming porn SAs and the word Nigger ad infinitum
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There's no rule that says you cant laugh like a maniac during someone's funeral.

Does that mean you should do it?
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>>181787074
Are we on a train or something? It's a fucking mmo with a healthy english player population. Just because you sperg out to the point where you're afraid to talk doesn't mean others are.

As long as you're not spamming the annoying ass face cut-ins or have auto contextual call outs it's fine.
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>>181787295
You talked in en in pub chat, and for SOME REASON nobody wanted to party with you. Couldn't possibly be a punishment imposed on you by the people in the MPA for breaking a fairly well established if unwritten social rule.
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>>181787365
Not an argument
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>>181784095
It's 100 SG for this one.
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uppity gaijins
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>>181787440
Your weird concept of social rules in a MMO are hilarious. I bet you ERP too.
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>>181787440
Thats not how that works
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>>181787457
your mom's not an argument
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>>181787598
That is pretty much exactly how it works. I'd like to hear why you think otherwise.
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Careful guys don't post on here it's against the social rules of a primarily Japanese game
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>>181787735
Another reason could be that the person has shit gear, people wanting to be kirito, not wanting the triboost. Plenty of other reasons
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>>181787903
Sure, there are other possible reasons, but it isn't exactly a stretch to assume violating a taboo is going to get you ignored.
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>>181788027
Is it really a taboo if you're the only one who cares about it
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>>181788073
I'm not, but okay.
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>>181788027
Its a taboo, just a retarded self imposed taboo placed by the English community. The only timee ot isnt is CM but that has yet to regain relevance
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>>181788027
>Go on vacation in a foreign country
>Better not talk and enjoy myself it's a social taboo!
You realize how xenophobic your logic is right now right?
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>>181785282
14* Double saber and Orbit GS for soon to be dead force
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>>181783893
Shit 2 is home to the lowest of the low.
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>>181788504
Including yourself I'm sure :^)
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>>181788306
>just a retarded self imposed taboo
That is literally all taboos. All social rules are self imposed, that's kinda how they work.

>>181788353
Good thing that's different and not actually a taboo?
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>ITT: underaged kids getting culture shocked

Because americans are totally peaceful people amirite?
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How do I get these default weapon camos that everyone else seems to have?
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>>181788667
I don't know what mental backflips you're performing to keep this going but I'm honestly at a loss.

>>181788717
That's not even remotely relevant to what we're talking about.
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>>181788854
What part of my post was that a response to? The first part is incredibly simple and sociology-101, the second is just common sense. Etiquette in real life and etiquette in an online game is different. That's not really hard to understand
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>>181788854
>some japanese people are uncomfortable at having foreigners around them so they bar entry into their establishments
>jp players are dodging guyjeans who openly speak in the lobby
>hurrr not relevant
enjoy being ignorant
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>>181788550
Nope
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>>181789029
More of your entire argument. Why you adhere to and advocate this stupid ass "taboo" that nearly no english player I've been with seems to follow anyways is beyond me. When the people you're so worried about offending literally give more of a shit about a fly buzzing around their room than you talking it's beyond dumb to act like it's some given thing.

>jp players are dodging guyjeans who openly speak in the lobby
You realize this whole discussion was sparked by a 3/4 at least and most likely a 4/4 PUG of English players right?
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>>181789340
>that nearly no english player I've been with seems to follow anyways
You seem to hang out with a very different group of EN players. Sounds like some B1 trash, who by the way get that label because they break the social norms of other EN groups.
>>
>b20 parties
>implying that counts as "jps tolerating your presence"
Ship2 never fails to amaze me with their stupidity
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>>181789491
>B1
Not since I hit level 30 anyways. It just seems to me like you're way too worried about something that people actually just do not care about. Most people are more than happy to have a conversation during a PUG assuming they're not just trying to rush through it for a completion bonus or something.
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>>181789668
Sounds like you play with some trash players, to be honest.
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He just stood there for the entirety of Wave 4 (i'm not sure if wave 3 too) and half of Wave 5

He did the same thing on the second run

I swear to god, i have nothing against Lilith i just like to shitpost them but FUCK this infuriates me. At least MOVE, grab crystals, i don't care what you do just do something and not just sit there

You piece of shit.
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>>181789742
Who knows? I'm not in a team so it's almost entirely made up of PUGs.
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>>181789768
No one cares about this fag stop bringing him up
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>>181789768
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>>181787136
>Still nobody has joined
>Only other party is a level 80 soloing
It's cool because I've never actually seen out of bounds on a map but I guess it's time to solo.

Coat edge never
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>>181789768
Keep it on the discord
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>>181790173
did something change reason why thats possible? i was dicking around with daggers and noticed i could go alot higher than normal
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infinity on JP parasite list when?
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>>181790859
they raised the height ceiling on a lot of free fields a while back.
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>>181786018
If someone has a name like Blackstorm Jaeger with an account name like RachelReaper in a team that's name is some stupid fucking western meme, I'm pretty sure they're an eng player.
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>>181788398
Force might not be dead, they just won't be #1 any more. We don't know how big the Tech buff numbers are. The reason everyone is freaking out about downtime is because the main tech for force right now is one of the single least PP efficient PA/Techs in the entire game. If light gets another good tech that's not a PP black hole we should still be alright. Then again I'm a Force main and trying to stay optimistic.
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>>181791714
>they just won't be #1 any more
They haven't been #1 for a long time anyways. They've been #2 or #3 for most of EP4.
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>>181791113
If night arks members are not on that list then neither will infinity be
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Does Nu-Yamato crystal calculate on enemy death or break?
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>>181792363
Literally irrelevant because you're going to get an ether fuse every run
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>>181791714
>If light gets another good tech that's not a PP black hole we should still be alright.
Don't forget the tons of other element techs that are being buffed. We might be able to spam wind techs on Mother and lightning techs on Elder.
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>>181792642
Oops we made Light too good and now newer force players don't feel mandated to buy 3+ skill trees any more. Better fix that. Too bad for them that no one is going to want to fucking bother with force.
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Everybody already knew this, but for posterity.
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>21% 8 slot D-AIS potential was false
What the fuck
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>>181795243
What is happening in this picture?
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>>181795243
Huh?
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>>181789768
People chat in-game and don't move. Sorry you don't have any friends to know the feeling.
>>
>>181795656
>>181795682
Trading in a pot3 +5 OT weapon gets you a +35 NT.
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>>181795559
>implying it would've been real
It had no numbers to begin with. it's 13% attack /20% pp reduction at 8s.
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>>181795775
Ah, okay. The element still stays the same, though? That seems really bad.
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>>181795978
Yes I know what it actually is. I'm just saying that why the fuck were people saying that number like they were so sure if it was wrong as hell?
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>>181796027
Oh, I forgot that there are files now. My mistake.
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https://mega.nz/#!E3JhFAwB!1skm3ldP9MzzIcgy5MEeHJNl38W8O3aEP13DsprahCY

Too lazy to do a FLAC rip.
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>>181789768
>what is voice chat
>typing on PS4
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>>181796180
Okay lilith
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>>181796151
>https://mega.nz/#!E3JhFAwB!1skm3ldP9MzzIcgy5MEeHJNl38W8O3aEP13DsprahCY
My man!
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>>181796151
You're a good man.
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>Noble power is 15m despite being in the new scratch
S-atk prices are just going to keep getting worse aren't they
>>
>>181795978
>13% 20% reduction at 8 slots
What the fuck what is it at 5 slots then?
>>
>>181796151
THANK YOU
>>
>every night asks pariah joins infinity
Why is that?
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>>181796151
can you be an ultra bro and do a flac or ape rip anyway?

will love you long time.
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>>181796714
8.125 damage and 12.5 pp cost reduction
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>>181796714
8.125% damage/12.5% pp reduction. it's shit. SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT.
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>>181797065
So way worse than my 12% from zein, great. I just wanted a usable AIS saber but that'll never fucking happen I guess.
>>
Why the fuck is SH LQ2 dead?
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>>181797376
ep4 lq is also good exp
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>>181795243
No, I didn't know that.
In fact I know nothing about fuses. Do we have a list of things they catalyst?
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>>181797109
>>181797065
>we're in the "next 6-8 months will be nothing but shit gear compared to what i already have" phase of ep5 ala austere going into ep4
I don't know how to feel about this.
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So let me get this straight. If I finish a Seiga CF and upgrade it with ether fuses the grind cap is immediately +35?
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>>181797635
You have to +5 pot 3 it first.>>181795243
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>>181797635
Yes.
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>>181797376
because it has no drops? why the fuck would anyone do it.
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>>181797482
Better get working on those cliffard weapons, they're not going to be outdated for at least 6 months.

>>181797480
Everything that they catalyst for is listed under jig's earth series weapon exchange. it's basically all the seiga/quartz/'real' weapon series that were around last time yamato was, and a few before.

>>181797635
>>181797769
Yes, the grind cap is +35, but the grind itself will be zero.
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>>181797769
He's asking about the cap, not the grind exp it gives you for trading in. Any OT trade in with ether fuses will give you an NT with a grind cap of 35.
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>>181797769
Nope. The grind cap will always be +35. Pot3 +5 is just if you want to trade it in and have it at +35 immediately.
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>>181797838
Well SH would already imply its for exp you fucking retard.
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>>181797769
You don't need to +35 it first. The cap is -always- 35 no matter what. But whatever grind you have on it will carry over (potential level x 10 + grind level)
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>>181761814
Anon, I was having mildly more success with ignition parry, but the damage on it feels incredibly low if you don't get a parry during it, and my problem with hunter and JGing in general remains: too many enemies, too many particle effects, and projectiles or enemies diving at me from off-screen or somewhere off-camera and knocking me into a wombo combo that I can't recover from until I either die or burn through a bunch of mates. In the Ep1~4 LQ, for example, even if I can reliably JG about half the attacks thrown at me, all it takes is missing the JG on a caterdran to wind up in a stun, then endlessly juggled by the enemies before I can mash the movement keys enough to recover.

Also, once an enemy starts juggling me or smacking me around like that, I tend to lose my rhythm with JGs and everything kind of snowballs. It's sort of like playing a rhythm game and missing a note, and then missing a ton of notes afterwards as you try to get back into your rhythm, except sometimes I never recover until the entire encounter has ended.

Is it positioning? Do I just spam ignition parry and mash both guard points as they come up? Where do I find time to do PAs or regain PP with normal attacks if I'm so focused on guarding? I've only got a few levels before I'm done with Hunter, probably forever, and I go back to a class that I'm good at, but I feel really frustrated with myself that I'm unable to do this, but with how cluttered and chaotic fights tend to be, I don't see how I can be expected to JG half the shit that's screwing me up when it's coming from across the map, or enemies clipping through other enemies whose telegraphs I can't even see. This is driving me completely crazy.
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>>181797874
>>181797903
Oh my mistake then. Fuck grinding OT if that's how it is though.
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>>181797906
But 4 is better for exp?
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>>181797970
>but the damage on it feels incredibly low if you don't get a parry during it
That's the whole point of the PA, you don't use it if you aren't expecting something to parry.
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>>181797993
I'd rather grind OT, it's roughly as expensive for me as grinding NT, and I have grind skips too.
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>>181798054
>Over 400k exp on episode 2 LQ in 6-8 minutes with the shittiest of parties
>Episode 4 LQ isn't guaranteed to finish, especially with SH shitters
wew
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>>181798054
No one runs 4
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Would Seikaiser sword be a good replacement for Zein? I don't know if 1% damage is worth losing for 5% damage reduction which is throwing me off.

I'm going to be a hero if that affects your answer
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>>181798254
Replacement? No.
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>>181798361
Well I'm asking because I have a +32 zein but Seikaiser will be much easier to max in the weeks coming up to Ep. 5
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>>181798456
if you have a +32 zen, keep working at it. Literally the only thing the yamato weapons are good for is stat 6 factor fodder.
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so do the new versions of the earth weapons have new potentials or are they the same? what about the yamato weapons?
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>>181798649
Fair enough. I'll probably just make a +35 20 element seikaiser for expert block reqs then.
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>>181795978
>8 slots for 13% damage and 20% pp reduction
what the fuck were they thinking
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>>181798931
for older players (hell, even for newer players) who haven't met the requirements for expert block, this is legitimately the fastest and easiest way to do so.
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>>181799096
I would say they did it purely to waste our time with stat VI SAFs but you only need one OT for +35 so players like me that never throw things away already have enough SAFs to last for years.
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>>181798931
>>181799098
How does one go about doing this? I don't care about expert blocks, I just want my level cap removed on applicable classes.
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>>181799347
>Finish seiga sword cf or buy one for 200 stones
>Use 20 ether fuses to upgrade it at zieg
>Upgrade to +35
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>>181798846
The upgraded weapons (Majestic Collection) are mostly the same, just with higher base stats. Seikaiza weapons also get 5% damage reduction.

D-A.I.S. and Yamato weapons (Phantom Battleship Collection) don't get an upgraded version, but new Aether Fuse potentials instead. The former gets a boost based on the number of affixes on it similar to Aura's Arena Booster potential, and the latter just gains power over time that caps to 16% without the weird little conditionals the original potential has.
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>>181799393
Oh, seikaiser are the upgraded tokyo weapons then. Nevermind, I understand now.

What was all this talk of converting OT to NT for instant +35 or something?
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>>181799472
thanks
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>>181799519
Literally just read the 20 or so posts above you
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>>181799472
>Yamato weapons get up to 16% damage over time
How long does it take to max out? That doesn't sound too bad honestly.
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>>181799587
Wait, but how the hell do you get pot3 on a +5 weapon? I thought you only got potentials at +10, +20, and +30.
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Astral soul replacement when? The more time goes on the more expensive making them becomes since EQs don't drop the boss souls any more.
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>>181799696
That's for OT weapons anon.
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>>181799682
The only thing we have to go on right now is what the text says, it isn't until people actually put it to use that we'll know for sure
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Can you get badges from completing the limited quests on normal? Is that more efficient than doing it on XH?
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>14* sword is another 14* worthless for hero
So they're totally making 14*s the answer other classes have to hero right?
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>>181799958
>The answer to balancing other classes compared to hero is adding 14*s that have a ~0.003% chance to drop period let alone the one for your class.
Yeah sure anon, you figured it out
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>>181799958
You'd be surprised how many weapons there are that don't benefit Hero. Not everything must be on a silver platter for them.
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>>181800058
Given how this entire game is just a fucking gambling simulator yeah it could very well be that.

>>181800082
Yeah I'm aware but as of right now the two 14*s that Hero would have access to are very specifically set up so it can't take advantage of them. The TMGs require chain which will be main class only and the sword will require a JG to unsheathe which Hero can't do.
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>>181800248
Chain Trigger won't be main class only, Chain Finish will be though so it might as well be.
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>>181800470
Isn't Hero a solo class?
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>>181800548
Yeah. Either way Hero won't be able to use Chain Trigger, I was just pointing out that CT itself won't technically be Gunner main class only
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How much s atk unbuffed should a hunter have going into expert blocks? I have around 3100-3200 right now but I'm wondering if I need to get more
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>>181789768
>Complaining about common occurrences of people AFKing in pugs
Your fault for joining one
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>>181800992
4000 or uninstall
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>>181799958
why SHOULD they be useful for hero?
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>>181796151
thanks dude
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>>181807725
even if I squint, it still looks nothing like emperappy
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>>181807974
I'm glad that they don't get to be a part of the retrospective LQs
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>AIS weapon ether pot literally weaker than regular pot
What am I supposed to do for a Hero sword now?
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>>181808220
Get seiga?
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>>181808220
just 8 slot it bro
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>>181809106
still weaker by a significant amount
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>>181809538
No it's not
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>>181809861
13% is weaker than 17.7% by a good bit.
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>>181796151
You're a wonderful wonderful human being
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>>181799958
That's what the datamined 15* icon is for :^)
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