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Wrong game edition
NEW EXPANSION: WONDERLAND DREAMS
https://shadowverse.com/cardpack/wonderlanddreams/
OFFICIAL SITE IS UP

NEW GRAND MASTER RANK
https://shadowverse.com/news/maintenance/news-0124

NERFS ARE UP
https://shadowverse.com/news/maintenance?announce_id=295
>The Shadowcraft follower Shadow Reaper will cost 3 instead of 2.
>The bronze Neutral amulet Test of Strength will now have the effect "Countdown (2) All followers that come into play gain Ward until this amulet leaves play." This will replace the current effect, "Leaders cannot be attacked if there is a follower that can be attacked in their area."

All cards info (so far):
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UCa5IN0zZVWRTmZGcSjWpykIi1QR8j-c60fqE9qFb-Q/edit?usp=sharing

Official Website:
https://shadowverse.com/

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https://shadowverse-portal.com/

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NEW IMAGE PACK
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old thread >>181491434
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Why is this card shit again?
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>>181518481
This looks like a very high IQ mirror
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>>181518481
it's sneks all over again!!
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>>181518481

people have to be careful of not playing followers to play around the abyss evolve rush

what a time to be alive
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>>181518481
>Control Blood mirror
>turn 9
This is why.
Kill Baphomet and nobody will give a shit about this card.
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>>181518481
>TURN 5 AND 6 DO NOTHING LOL
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>>181531521
And it'd still be a good wincon.
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>>181518481
>turn 5 do nothing
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>>181530912
>harvest festival back to 2cc
>homecoming back to 5cc

>fairy cage, fairy driver and wood of brambles exist now

Honestly, I don't think forest would even play gobbu at that point and it would be oppressive as hell. PtP would be back on top.
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Threadly reminder
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Holy FUCK Ebon Beast Warrior is so good in Take Two. That gigantic body stops even the most tenacious bloodnigger ungabunga. I just came back from a fuckhueg life disparity because of my boy.
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>>181518481
how on earth did you manage to win going second??
>Temptress
What??
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Give Spawn the Fangblade effect restriction and he's suddenly balanced
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>>181518481
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>>181531782
That's clearly Control Blood, dumbfuck.
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>>181531634
>PtP
*removes your amulet*
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>>181531267
>Average stats are 1/10 packs
>There's supposedly a safety net of 20 packs for legendaries. I don't believe your stats
i doubt there is a safety net. if there is, then i guess it got wasted on one of those shitty standard packs from daily missions. i wont open one again until i get a wonderland legendary then.

kill me
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>Old Man and Old Woman
SVG TOLD ME IT GONNA BE GOOD
:thinking:
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>>181531934

If you think PtP forest would give any fuck about a 7cc amulet destruction, you're not very bright.
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>>181532049
It's good when dealing with early game neutral aggro
It's crap any time after that
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>>181531936
I pray for you. May you rest in peace.
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>>181531936
There isn't, I counted in RoB and went 43 packs with no legend.
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>>181531934
I bet you think bahamut killed ptp aswell.
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>>181531521
It would still be good without Baphomet's enhance, in fact both would still be run.
Playing Baphomet on turn 2 would be way less risky than playing him on 5
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>>181532130
If you think PtP Forest could get away with playing a 2pp do nothing amulet nowadays you're not very bright.
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>>181531556
DELETE THIS
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Need a concede for shekels
29957
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>Want corpselord to try some extreme memes
>Keep pulling anything but woe
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>two forest quests
End my life
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>>181531934
This fucking thing. I'd have no trouble with elena against spawn but this exists.
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>>181532234
Without Baphomet cost reduction, you can't just throw Spawn into Neutral Blood, and it would end up as just a good Control Blood wincon, which it is fine as.
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>>181532049
It could be really good in a different meta

It is pretty based in take2 for removing two enemies and leaving a bane on board, with the added necessity to remove it in fear of it receiving an attack buff (ephemera has nice synergy with it)
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>>181532260
Thank you Vampy chan!
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>>181532049
I probably would've used them in csword. Sadly, csword is kill and won't come back any time soon.
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>>181532256
>he thinks harvest festival gets played on turn 2

That's pretty cute.
Grats on hitting D0.
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>>181532296
Amulet removal should flat out not be a thing in this game as it is now. Amulet support is already nonexistent and the tempo loss from playing a do nothing amulet already results in your loss half the time.
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>>181531934
>>181532296
I don't understand this shit.
>LB is oppressing amulet-based decks, this is why we are nerfing it
>prints Execution on a body TWICE
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>>181532049
It is good, it's just not neutral aggro engine good.
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>>181532460
Yeah just drop that shit on the same turn the enemy blood drops the Alice, bet that's gonna go well for you moron.
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Is black swan good?
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Reminder that they literally called this card "memey" on a stream.
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Need a concede: 26406
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>>181532376
This. It always seemed obvious at least to me that this was a Control Blood wincon. Remove Baph's enhance or even something like reducing the attack pulled to 4 and up and it might be fair again
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How long do you think the game will survive without formats?
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>>181532696
Please understand, they didn't playtest cards this time around so they had no way of knowing :^(
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>>181532632
You have no idea how any deck that doesn't just unga bunga me go face plays or is built, do you?
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>>181532634
Very.
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>>181532763
Formats will ruin this more than new bullshit can ever hope to
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>>181532763
Honestly I don't care
I always feel like people who ask these things are just looking for an excuse to quit. You can just quit anytime you want you know, I'm not staying after this expansion.
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Nerfs when?
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>>181532919
July 29th
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>>181532763
Formats wouldn't change anything, any good deck right now is using mainly new cards.
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>>181532808
You have no idea how powercreeped this game is, do you? Reverting the forest nerfs would make ptp forest playable, sure... last expansion.
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Rate my band
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>>181532698
A-anyone?
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>>181532987
>one whole month of neutral blood

too much fun
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>A whole month of nothing but blood
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>>181533087
11craftcards/40
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>>181532987
That's only the announcement date. Nerfs aren't guaranteed.
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>>181533087
lose to neutral blood /10
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>>181532898
I will just wait until some random gook and nip figure out what was really the META. Then I will start build my own netdeck. Just like back ToG with midrange shadow. I think definitely a truely a dirtcraft meta but nobody doesn't have a deck for it.
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>running into more AA's than masters

haHAAAAA

so many people quitting
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If they nerf anything from blood i'm sueing them, i crafted 3 spawns and wasted 20 k vials on the rest of the deck.
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>>181533087
Need more Wind God and Flower Princess.
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>>181532049
ELDERS
PREPARE FOR BATTLE
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>>181533376
logic/10
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>>181533381
fuck off bandwagoner
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>>181533547
I've never once, in my being master since RoB, ran into 6 back to back AA ranked players.

I'm only suffering this ranked shit to get the monthly sleeves. If they don't give good enough nerfs to compel me to climb for the grand master reward come July I'll outright quit the game.
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>>181533381
>3 spawns
>3
You done fucked up
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>>181533381
>crafting 3 when you only need 2
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Thoughts on Duelyst?
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WHY IS THIS ALLOWED
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>>181531834
This, but then Sword would be unbalanced.
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>>181532698
>>181533173
Thanks Mama Forte.
Hope I didn't made you wait too long.
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>>181534071
Just khawy bro
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>>181533381
>not having enough vials for spawns and 3 other sets of legendaries
I'm a f2p that bearly played any games last expansion and I could afford crafting 2 Alice, 1 Snow White, 2 Aslan, 1 Carabosse and I have enough vials left for 3 Spawns and more.
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Where's your Themis now, bitch?
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>>181534048
Tagged as "anime" on steam because retard think every artstyle they don't like is anime despite being the polar opposite of anime artstyle.
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>>181533810
>>181533913
>pulled 1
>crafted second one
>the next day got 3rd one out of free pack
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>don't immediately answer the turn 6 spawn
>die from 20 health
This is the most bullshit meta yet
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>>181534160
That's the thing.
B&B is immune against Khawy's effect.
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I have 10 T2 tickets to spend.
What are the good crafts for arena this expansion?
Sword and blood?
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>>181534202

you have two fucking cards in hand and nowhere near lethal, you think you're gonna win this?
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>>181534048
I like artist
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>>181534071
>losing to a worse Aegis
Why are you playing this game?
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>>181534394
Blood, Forest, and Haven
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I just want to ladder past A1 finally. Has the meta formed itself yet?
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>reading through this general

I'm staying the fuck away from ranked until the meta somehow settles down.
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>>181534304
How the fuck is that crafting 3?
Are you a moron?
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Hold up so I win just like that? What the fuck is this deck, this isn't fair at all.
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>>181534048
ded
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>>181534619
You rather should stay the fuck away from this general.
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rate dick
1 Mordercai btw
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>>181534356
Just test of strength bro
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>>181534624
Not him mister.
>>181533381
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I wish they put spawn in indefinite maintenance like roost.
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>>181534619
The meta has already settled. Neutral Blood is tier 0. There is nothing to discuss.
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>>181534752
This general's actually not bad to me because my standards are rockbottom.
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Haven can do this since DE. Forest can do this since Standard.
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>>181534619
You should stay the fuck away from this game.
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>>181534675
Everyone still plays it though. It's more alive than ever.
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>bricking every game with neutral blood
I'm really cursed. Should I buy crystals for premium draws?
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>enter t2
>against sword
>turn 2 spear amulet, turn 3 pepe
Fuck this shit. This is why i never play t2.
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>>181534882
>>181534673
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>>181534673
Cblood has a win condition now so its fair after memesneks failed.

t. definitelynotKMR
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>>181534775
Are you trying to build budget Nep deck or Midrange deck?
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>>181534908
t. ben brode
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Do neutral otk roach really needs B&B?

How fast it dies against spawn decks anyway?
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>>181535064
I suppose midrange? I'm not sure.
I could get a set of NepNeps and her usual entourage, but I figured I might as well try the Death's Ledger and see how it works.
(I took inspiration from a couple of people in this general earlier)

I basically wanted to keep up with Eachtar and generally keep a strong early/mid game with carrots and lich.

Thoughts on which way I should go?
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>>181535038
It didn't failed and Snek deck isn't even really Control.
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>>181535064
Not him, but that's Ledger Midrange, which was a thing even before WD.
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>>181532620
Such magnificent tits wasted on a card that won't see play outside of take2.
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Tfw Rune is good again but not bullshit just good in a low key way
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Could anyone share their neutral blood decklist I just want to ladder and be done with it.
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90357 I request a concede please!
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>>181534435
>Eris can only kill one follower
>if she kills Water Fairy, evolve Lyrial for lethal
>if she kills Lyrial, evolve Fairy or May lethal
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Anyone tried Carabosse Blood yet?
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>>181535271
>>181534775
Drop Thane for a third Eachtar. Get some Alices (since this looks like budget, you can wait a bit before you add the Alices, since they are expensive) and 2 more copies of Death's Breath. Get rid of Lurching Corpse, you want Ledger to pull Liches.
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>>181535352
Lmao why that dog tryin to eat a rainbow his owner need to get they dog smdh
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>>181535408
Thank you kind blood player!
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>>181535475
It works decently well.

IT'S BLUUUUUUD
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>>181534775
This >>181535502
You should consider getting another 2 drop to replace Lurching, like Unica. Also, drop Mordecai.
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>>181535669
Hmmm
Does it not hurt not to have Dark Airjammer?
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ALICE PLEASE OLD MEN TO GET HER FANFARE
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>>181532620
>why is banishing an entire enemy board bad but a body removing one (1) amulet okay?

Are you brain damaged?
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T2 feels kinda more random than ever before now.
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So is Demon Key viable to build a deck around?
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>>181535502
>>181535693
How's this?

>>181535575
No problem, Erasmus

>>181535819
I tried airjammer, but I felt I could do better things on T5. It could also be my bad luck, but it never really pulled what I needed. Try it yourself for sure though.
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>>181535850
>reading comprehension
I never said LB as fine, retard. I am saying the excuse they gave for nerfing LB is contradictory with the shit they are printing.
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>>181535669
>belphegor AND carabosse
might aswell add phantom cat, dire bond, blood pact and ptp
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I regret not using my globe on Alice.
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>>181536014
Better, but you should still drop Thane for a third Eachtar if you are able to. I am also not sure about Phantom Howl here. You don't have Cerberus, and this deck isn't that aggressive. I'd drop it and put back 2 Soul Conversions so the Attendants aren't dead draws.
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who /quit/ here?
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>>181536001
No.
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>>181536030
And the reason they gave for the Piercing Rune and Shadow Reaper nerf was that they were both used in all archetypes possible to use them on, yet they didn't touched Grimnir at all. It's called "talking out of their ass".
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>>181536103
Who did you animate to regret?
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>>181536228
>55 posters in this thread.
Oh shit dude. This is read deal. SV will be dead!
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>>181536340
Slyvan Elder
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>>181536087
Belphegor is nigh essential for getting me into vengeance. I don't trust blood moon.
Carabosse is in there purely because I pulled two of her, she's a decent body, and the extra draw is nice. I could absolutely take her out for something different, but I dun wanna just yet.

It's not the best deck, but it's not Spawn cancer.

>>181536202
I realized after I posted the picture that I never dropped Thane for an Eachtar. I did so now. I have Cerb but I left her out because I felt like trying it without her. I'll put her back in, take out Howls, and throw in some Soul Conversions, Thanks!
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>>181535475
It's a decent deck, just not broken enough compared to Cthulhu.
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>>181536228

I think I'm just going to play casual for the time being. I enjoy most of the meta right now, outside of spawn blood, but getting matched against 4 spawns in a row in ranked is pretty enthusiasm-sapping.
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>>181536360
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>>181536228
Here
Card games just aren't for me
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>>181536360
>Slyvan Elder
Are you that anon who misclicked?
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>blood mirrors
disgusting
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>>181536492
So you just downloaded this game for the half naked little girls
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>>181536228
If the meta settles and Blood is the only good deck I'm crafting Support Cannon memes and never looking back
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>>181536665
Kill yourself. Both of you.
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>>181536709
not him but that's exactly why I did it and I'm still sticking around for now
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Need Concede plz
29002
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>>181536790
woops, meant to >>181536701
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>>181536228
>he didn't quit in totg
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>>181536862
ty Cinderella anon
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Can someone post a decklist for tears + dark alice memes please?
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>>181536701
for the armpits, actually
little girls are a bonus
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>>181534048
Fun game, but cancer levels of removal.
One of the generals literally feels like playing against Dshit with no fun allowed along with taking 2 damage a turn.
New actually large expac is coming out soon, maybe makes game come back to life.
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>>181536786
But why? I need Master, or bad kids here will call me A shitter forever
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>>181534071
Control is dead, you win in SV by hitting face on curve and forcing your opponent to play catch up.
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>>181537198
>he didn't climb during Standard/DE
You will forever be a shitter.
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>>181537234
you win if you go first
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>>181537312
>you win if you go first
Someone saved that jayce edit some anon made a couple threads ago?
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>>181537267
Why?
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>>181536360
I feel sorry for you, but I can't stop grinning.
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>>181537130
That doesn't look like sweat...
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>page 4
It finally happened guys.
F
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>>181537734
It is, trust me I'm a doctor
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if ur reading this ur gay and u prolly like anime lmao
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>>181538236
Im gay
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>>181538000
>mmdoc
>solforge
>shadowverse

why do interesting card games die while hearthstone lives? guess i'll try gwent now
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Eh, just wait until the end of the month.
Nerfs will happen and the meta will rebalance.
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>he still plays shadowverse
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>>181538314
>gwent
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>>181538520
Rape
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>17 to face because of dank jeanne
I was forgetting why I played her in the first place.
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>>181538396
You mean they will say the meta is balanced and no nerfs is needed
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>tfw baphomet will have his enhance removed and my soul dealer bloody mary OTK meme will be dead
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>everyone's playing neutrals meanwhile I'm just farming spawnshitters with my Albert deck.
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>>181538520
bahamut
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>once again reach the stage where I don't feel motivated to even post Eris
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>>181538520
Is mayonnaise an anime?
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>3 months of cucktar
>this is fine yep :)
>3 days of abyss
>wow dead fucking game ugh good job cygames...
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Were you even here during the first month of Eachtarverse? The threads were so dead.
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>>181538520
Hentai tentacle porn because we play against blood.
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>>181538520
Overlord
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>>181538840
>this is fine yep :)
What the fuck are you talking about, people bitched about Eachtar till the very last day before the new expansion.
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>>181538520
Niea Under 7
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>>181538840
>bandawagon trys to defend blood
I pray you waste youur vials
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Channel your energy for honestcraft
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Can someone post a Carabosse deck?
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If you lose with neutral blood you should kill yourself.
This deck is so broken you pretty much have to try to suck to actually lose with it.

This shit makes prenerf shadow, dragon, daria, and forest look like a joke.
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>>181538520
Kuroinu
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>>181538958
They are still bitching about it, not to mention people are still crying about Luna
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>>181539034
Kill yourself.
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>>181538314
shadowverse is literally just a japanese knock-off of hearthstone. the only reason it was competitive was due to how shit hearthstone was during karazhan and mean streets. now it actually has a decent meta, and shadowverse's expansions have been getting progressively worse and more broken since RoB. there's no reason to play the knock-off until blizz breaks their game again.
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>>181539050
Post list
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>>181531692
>>181538628
If they defend this I'm permanently dropping this shit.
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>>181539107
>unironically asking for the exact same list every bandwagoner retard uses
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>>181518481
If you evaluate the card in a vacuum (which is generally what leads to misevaluations) it's just a pile of stats that wins the game slower or as slow as aegis, anomaly, Azazel, snek, Mordecai, or any other of the host of big flashy finishers. What pushes it over the edge is the existence of baphomets enhance which let's it come down turn 6 and win the game turn 7. What makes a turn 5 2/1 absurd is the insanely OP neutral engine which basically guarantees board control going first and negates any tempo loss a turn 5 baph should generate. That's the problem broken cards that everyone has access to, theres always going to be one class that breaks them harder than any other.
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>>181538520
I'm watching Virgin Soul, have some episodes of Little Witch Academia on my backlog and I'm waiting for Vento Aureo. I tried to watch Gabriel Dropout but I dropped it after episode 5.
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>>181539050
>If you lose with neutral blood you should kill yourself.
Even grandmasters don't have 100% winrate. But yeah, you're badass for sure
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>>181539090
No reason other than waifus.
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>>181538520
I'm not a fucking pedophile therefore I don't watch anime
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>>181539050
the deck literally loses to not going first unless you're playing in d rank (you probably are)
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>>181538520
LoGH and Maid dragon of course!
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>>181539237
can't keep 100% in a mirror match :^)
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>>181539325
Yet you play shadowverse.
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>>181539503
It's a good game
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>>181539290
>waifushitter
I don't get it. This is card game. Your "waifus" are nothing but pictures. You can download them without playing game
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>>181539564
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>>181539370
>Blood shitters actually believe this
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>>181539090
amulets, clearly defined classes (at least back in DE), and especialy evo abilities attracted me to this game. i definetly wouldn't call hearthstone in a decent state now
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>>181539607
>>181539050
Can you stream us your 100% winrate?
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>>181539325
>being this insecure
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>>181539214
This. Everyone thought Spawn was just a soft wincon. It's not the individual card that's busted, it's the entire deck when it comes together.

Nerfs are still necessary somewhere but it's probably not going to be on Spawn himself. Baphomet and Goblin Leader are the most likely targets by far.
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You think I'd still be in the top 10k if I stopped grinding after reaching GM? Currently in the top 700 with a little bit over 6k.
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>>181539605
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>>181539803
Honestly, if it wasn't for cygames lul no leggo nerfs I'd want the whole "does damage if destroyed" part of spawn removed
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>>181539605
>look everyone, I play games that I hate haha
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https://youtu.be/jyhZjoXL9JQ

is the new dragon legendary good or just a meme?
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Gee, Jeb, why does Mom let you have 6 Grimnirs?
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>>181540035
>jabberwock

a meme
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Gimme a good Fairy Driver deck.
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I consider this the worst meta we've ever had but I'm enjoying it so fucking much.

Every deck I build just has a big target, "beat Neutral Blood". Like there's no doubt in my mind that Neutral Blood is a broken tier 0 deck that needs a hotfix nerf, but it excites me so much figuring out what cards I can run to contest it and then watching the deck work.
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>>181540035
It's a good meme
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>>181540035
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>>181539876
Spawn doesn't need to be touched. It's fine as a Control Blood wincon. The problem is when he comes down turn 6 for the cost of a "bad" turn 5 in a deck that has the best turns 1-4 in the game. As a turn 8 play in CBlood, it's a punishable do nothing if you don't evolve and trade with it (what makes so it very likely won't win you the game) and it's useless if you are too behind in tempo.
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J-just wait until I get overflow you filthy bloodnigger!
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>>181540334
You also have to watch out for Haven though.
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thank you
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How long till neutral rune is T1?
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>losing in blood mirror because you going first
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>>181538520
Shadowverse anime is pretty gud
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>>181540375
>Have Revelation vs a stacked board
>Play spawn

???
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>tfw you go first and drop B&B on turn 6
>follow up by Arriet to otk them
I'm actually enjoying playing B&B with Arriet.
I just wish forest had some draw engine to keep things going in case you burn your hand too fast.
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>>181540706
Wasn't my turn buddy
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>3 mana 4/4 LOL
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>>181540585
Pedophiles killed this game. Trampy and lunapedes need to die.
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just wait until I'm in vengeance you god damn neutral swordcuck
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>>181540706
I'm assuming the board was empty when he played spawn and rowen threw out two ivories and a 0-cost gobbu into jabbermeme
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>>181538520
Lupin the third.
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>>181540754
Dick? Every time I try to make B&B work I lose a few thousand ranks
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can anyone post the best lion haven deck RIGHT now
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>>181540334
That's the case for every tier 0 deck meta in every card games. It's fun beating "the big guy". That experience didn't exist in ToG because you couldn't tech against both Dragon and Shadow.
There is also the fact that this meta is just much more enjoyable in general if you ignore Neutral Blood. People actually play on board, there is none of that 10+ out of hand Storm damage we've had with Roach and Zell in RoB/ToG, or "lol I'll just refill my board again" from Daria and Midrange Shadow.
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>>181540862
>not being in vengeance whenever you want
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>>181539936
I play it because I dunno what else to play, its that dead kind of a phase you have in every game before you quit.

No way I am playing this in a month or so, Tempest showed me that this game is only going to get worse
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>>181538520
Amagami
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>>181540671
>Trail of Light in a 2/2 body
>Queen Medb 2.0
Rune's Neutral support is garbage
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Why isn't she with the other reward sleeves? Is she getting bullied?
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>>181541151
>>Queen Medb 2.0
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After 77 packs I finally got my first WLD legendary.
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>>181539034
EASY 5-0 for honest girl
A
S
Y
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>>181541265
I'm sorry, bro. Wish I could channel some of my pack luck to you.
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>>181541265

at least you got a usable one and not garbage like memewock or CAN'T ATTACK
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>>181541239
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>all silvers except Tenko and only Tenko after over 100 packs
>odds can't be that bad man it is skill not luck
According to skillshitters I must be doing something wrong if others have no problem getting all the silvers after 100 packs.
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>>181536556
I want to FUCK Zero. She's a cutie.
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>>181541265
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>mfw haven't seen soulsquasher and cucktar in a while
who /enjoyingshadowverse/ here?
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Nerf spawns attack to 4. Problem solved
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>Neutral blood
>shit draws all day
>bricks all day
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>>181540936
I'm running a list from a nip that I saw on openrec. He has some other versions of it, if you want I can post them.
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>>181538520
Ping Pong
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>>181540969
Even teching against just Dragon or Shadow was annoying because they were such straight decks. I think Neutral Blood is more powerful than either of them, but it's way more reliant on its gimmicks compared to Dragon that had a lot of defensive options and Shadow which just ran high value cards.

You interrupt the aggro curve and Neutral Blood just falls apart. If you fail you lose hard, but when they hit their perfect curve and you have the perfect answers it feels so good. Dragon's perfect hand was answers and ramp. Shadow didn't so much have a perfect hand as much as it never had a bad one.

I also agree that the meta looks great minus Neutral Blood. It feels like we'll have a really good one once the issue is solved, whether it's because of nerfs or some counter becoming prominent enough to force a shift.
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>>181541447

I'd rather see those two suckers rather than turn 1 goblin turn 2 lyrial/unica/actress turn 3 goblin leader turn 4 alice one more fucking time
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who else just concedes on the spot when going second?
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>>181541650
Not that anon but post it. I need to get some dailies done
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As a Rune main playing 90% grit-ablaze, should I just blow my seer's globe on Oz?

>Thinking...
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>>181541293
>going 5-0 with that retarded draft

MOMMM GET THE CAMERA MOMMMMM
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>>181541773
Yes and make a webm
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>>181541773
Oz will only get better as more spells come out. She's one of the safest cards to craft and animate
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FUSHIGI NO SEKAI
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>>181541878
A HIPPY ON SHROOM IS DICTATING THE META
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>>181541650
I kinda suspected I should stop trying to put roach-shit in my deck as a secondary finisher.
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>>181541780
You don't go 5-0 with average decks, what's your point
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I saw an Abomination dirtrune deck the other day anyone have it?
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>>181541913
>Eachtar
>average deck
Haha, oh wow.
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I wouldn't mind this meta so much if the blood mirror was at least interesting.
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>>181541758
>>181541912
>>181541650
>>181540936
He's currently streaming right now, so check him out and take a look at his twitter for some other lists.

https://www.openrec.tv/live/kqtYrZAxpwh
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>>181541847
>>181541876
Good to know she's so well-loved. Daria felt like a love-her-or-hate-her sort of card, and Big Guy just fell off the face of the Earth.

Also, someone posted a webm of her a couple days ago. Try fireden and you should find it.
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>>181542017
If nothing else, TotG Shadow mirrors were always a lot of fun.
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>>181542017
>ywn go back to ToG dragon mirror slugfests
Y live?
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>>181542237
Kill yourself, shadownigger.
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>>181542237
>however plays their eachtar first wins
>fun
nah
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the thing I hate the most about spawn is that I never feel like a legit win or lose with it or against it

it doesnt matter at all what the opponent does, the only thing that matters if you win or lose is your draw.

going first:
t2 tove
t3 goblin leader
t4 alice
t5 baph
t6 spawn
t7 Emeralda/Alucard

literally unbeatable, you never actually hope you can beat neutral spawn, you can only pray they get a bad draw.
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>>181542451
>perfect curve
Only whales have perfect curve
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>>181542451
>perfect curves such as t4 daria are impossible to beat
holy fuck!
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>>181542668
>whales
I personally spent nothing on this expansion and I have a full-fledge neutral spawn deck. I didn't even pull any of the spawns or alices. I just crafted them.
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Need a concede

81714
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Baphomet should be moved to shadowcraft
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>>181542451
The perfect curve isn't the problem, it's the deck coming in and fucking you on 7 when you've been winning the entire game.
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Whats the ranking for take 2 now?
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>>181542732
Daria was not as consistent as Spawn.
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>>181542873
For what purpose?
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>>181541659
Good man
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>>181542889

sword, dragon and shadow are still the best I believe
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>>181542451
Holy fuck I can't believe Tove is a card, LITERALLY unbeatable, who made this
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>>181542879
see, thats the thing, you were never winning in the first place

the game was already decided at the start when the draw seed was made
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>>181542167

Man, I got hit by a 14/14 big guy a couple days ago. Did not see that coming at all. Hard to be mad at that meme.
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stop playing neutral followers hijueputas what happened to class identity?
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>>181543015
nice job showing how you died to his t7 spawn+ emralda
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I stopped playing near the end of ToTG, is the meta good now? Is Forest playable?
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>>181542451
>only 1 card not from WD
fuck everything
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>>181543015
>give up your entire turn to remove tove
>in the end you zero summed
>he still has board and turn advantage
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>>181543156
Hahahahahahahahahahahaha no
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Maybe it's me, but I honestly feel like they fucked with draw rates. It feels like EVERYONE gets optimal draws except pure control. Followers, particularly low cost ones, seem to always be in a starting hand, but early removal or early setup cards are nowhere to be found. As if they want this meta to be so aggro friendly that they made certain cards more likely to be drawn earlier
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>>181542828
Thanks Albert
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>>181541912
If you want a secondary finisher I recommend this. It's also from twitter but I gained 1k MP with it today.
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>>181543185
I constantly get shitty awful brick hands playing Spawneutral.
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>we went from shadowverse to goblinverse
fuck this shit
wake me up in 3 months
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>>181543354
Going second doesn't count as bricking
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>>181543176
Alright, fuck me then. So I guess BnB was magical beast guy after all?
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>>181543156

It's not on top, but you can get your wins with some Thinking...
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>>181543170
>implying you don't outvalue them with BKB
>implying the game doesn't hinge solely on who plays enhanced Baphomet first
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>>181542873
>turn 6 4pp Eachtar
Yes, please :^)
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>no tove
>no goblin
>no alice
>no baph
>brick brick
I have better success using Cblood than this. Why do my opponents always get perfect draws? What is secret behind perfect curve? 7000 crystals pack?
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>havenhags keep banishing dark alice

STOP I JUST WANT TO HAVE FUN
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>>181543156

In theory forest SHOULD be top decks considering they got mad synergy with Into looking Glass,B&B,elf twin dunno why no one play them.
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>>181543442
Forest is fine, both Neutral Roach and B&B Neutral are decent. The problem is that Neutral Blood is tier 0 now (this time, actually tier 0), and Forest isn't good enough to beat it.
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>>181543407
>shit meta for two months
>cygames nerfs something
>game mildly more playable for a month
>new expansion fucks up more than before
>4 legendaries in 90 packs of new expansion
>repeat

i cant wait
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>turn 4 lion+hare
>turn 5 lion+aria
Good to know Daria got powercreeped, good job cygames
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>>181543624
they did it
I doubted it but they fucking did it
printed something more bullshit than eachtar
thats fucking it for me
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>>181543624
Nerfs are coming out by the end of this month this time.
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>>181543558
git gud
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>>181543442
A naked BnB with buffs up is as strong as everyone thought it'd be, but the meta fucks Forest. Basically there's no good slower neutral kit, and if you play aggro you can't hold the necessary cards for BnB. The meta is too fast for Forest which has always relied a lot on set up turns.
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>mfw just realizd they purposefully made emeralda 4 attack so that only spawn gets tutored by baphomet
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>>181543697

just mutagenic bro just CAPRICE BRO
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>>181539039

aggro bats with her tagged on the end
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>>181543697
>Blade Mage and Emmy
>Master Levi
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>>181543796
>evolved spawn has 8 atk so thats 16 to face + 4 from emeralda
really makes u think
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>>181543745
They didn't.
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>>181543772
>AA rank bandwagoner telling someone to "git gud"
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>>181532517
Solution: Stop playing do-nothing amulets.
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>>181543796
>>181544009
Blood having a 7-cost 4 damage storm is nothing new though. It's the attached Execution that's total bullshit
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>>181544165
>alucard + horde
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>>181543772
Is this post suppose to be ironic?
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>>181544165

I love how you can use literally the same deck for all crafts since they all use neutral shit as their core. What actual Runecraft cards do you even have in this deck?
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>>181543185
There is a way to manipulate the RNG so you may draw or open exactly what you want. I tested my method with 100 packs. I designated the haven silver card Tenko as the card I DONT want and low and behold I opened every silver in abundance... except Tenko. This proof my method and you can manipulate the RNG to your favor if you are skilled enough. I will tell more if interested.
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>play unranked
>face a perfect curving neutral blood shitter
I wish these kind of people die a slow and painful death.
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>>181544408
Teach me sempai
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>>181544373
Witch of Sweets, Kaleidoscopic Glow, Falise, and Mutagenic all x3.
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To the people that are playing neutral haven, how much success have you been having with it?
I want to make one but i'm kinda skeptical about it because of how the meta has been shifting
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>>181541265
77? shit i thought i was the worst with only 2 legends at 70 packs
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ERIKA PLEASES GOBLINS FOR GOBLIN CUM
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This meta sucks fucking ass.

It feels like you can't even win through smart plays anymore, just fucking having a perfect draw of cards. It's absolutely horrid.

I feel like I have no control over whether or not I win a game.
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>>181543936
>not playing levi themed daria deck
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>>181543697
Are Erasmus players all fucking trash?
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>Had shit luck in RoB and TotG, 1 legend in 20 packs was lucky
>Averaging a legend in 4 packs in WD
Keep hope, it has to even out eventually.
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>>181541265
Fuck me man what did you do in your past life to get that unlucky?
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>>181544782
I wish that Erasmus wasn't a leader because now we can't get Levi as a leader because they're the same thing except Erasmus fucking sucks.
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need concede

87611
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>>181544165
Post dick
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>Ironwrought + Cinderella + Support Cannon
Damn, that's memey
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>>181545084
Levi was an option in the leader poll, so of course we could get him. He obviously lost to Daria though.
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Isn't storm haven supposed to be decent? I can't climb at all with it in masters. Reached over 6k score rewards but I am still around 500-1000 master score. My deck isn't bad I think.
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Wow I need to take a fucking bath after this
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How to unlock perfect draws?
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>>181545090

tx
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>>181545154
Falise is really good when you run out of evos but having a big hand is kind of hard around that point. Witch of Sweets is the ideal t2 play.
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how do you think, is it viable? not that good as spawn ofc, but i like aggro more
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Look closely
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>>181545223
People didn't pick Levi because Erasmus is already a leader and we don't need two old wizards with white hair and beards. Daria might still have won but it'd be a closer running. Still, literally anyone would have been a better leader than Erasmus
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>>181545923
I can't even unpack one
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>>181545958
it could be young levi :^)
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>>181545923
So where'd you find the genie to wish for this kind of luck?
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>>181545923
>phonefag
lol
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>>181545923
Explode luckshitter.
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>>181545923
charge your phone faggot
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>>181545923
>4 animated legos in at least 10 packs
>3 out 4 of them are good
Congrats anon
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>>181545237
Naoise is bad
>muh Spawn
You should be trying to push their ass out on turn 5-6 so they can't even play the Spawn/Baphomet. Besides, they can just wait another turn so Naoise's effect goes away.
Drop Cudgel for a third Teena, you have too many evolve followers.
Consider a third Pinion.
Moon is bad. Lion exists and you have space for a third Jeanne. You have no reason to play her anymore.
Tribunal is not good enough in this meta. Drop it for either Birdkeeping Disciple or Urd (Urd is better than it used to be now because of the Snow White synergy, but I still prefer Disciple).
Consider giving Lion (especially if you add Urd) and Dogma a try.
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>4 wins arena
>final boss
>about to seal the 5-0

I fucking hate card games.
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>>181545923
Kill yourself, luckshitter.
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>>181544615
Someone plz help
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>that long, awkward pause when your opponent jabberwocks their ding dong and it turns into Aiela
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>>181545893
>Hector
>imp lancer
>phantom cat
dude, just run the spawn engine and emeraldas
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>>181546430
>Drop Cudgel for a third Teena, you have too many evolve followers.

drop one evolve follower for another evolve follower you have too many evolve followers

lol
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>>181546476
>frog

You deserve it
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>>181545958
>People didn't pick Levi because Erasmus is already a leader
Literally taken out of your ass.
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>>181546261
>he plays a game designed for mobile on his PC
loving every laugh
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>>181546402
Foil Jibber jabber is at least fun, nothing beats gacha dragon in enjoyment when it works.
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>>181546565
you have some troubles with reading do you?
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>>181545237
Try this instead, with Teena over Cudgel if you so prefer. Naoise and Tribunal are both entirely reactionary cards which also lack big up-front value, so they have no place in Storm.
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>mulligan something
>get it back
this has happened increasingly more often after the expansion
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>>181546558
I saw a list posted somewhere that actually ran Dragonsong Flute to prevent that situation.
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>>181546476
out fucking skilled
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How about we all collectively decide to not run Spawn of the Abyss in our decks, and report every single player we come across running Spawn?

That'll solve the problem until nerfs!
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>>181546579
He has 2 Cudgels and 2 Teenas, retard. Dropping Cudgels for a third Teena makes him end up with 3 Teenas.
Kill yourself, discord shitposter.
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>>181546718
>how viable is my deck? it's shit ofc, but I hate playing good decks because I'm a special snowflake
git gud shitter
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>>181546774
This. Draw system is rigged after WD
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>>181546681
You think anyone would pass on pepe?
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>>181546774
>mully my one animated hector
>get my same animated hector
nice
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>>181545340

just revelation bro just lethal blade bro
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>>181546476
>he had 5 cards in hand
What the fuck did you expect.
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Can Pepe consistently kill spawndicks before he get revelation?
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>>181546997
if you get nut draws and they don't ward, yes
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>>181546718
Your deck doesn't have an identity, it's just a weaker version of Neutral Spawn which trades cards out pointlessly.

If you want to play more straight burn aggro then run the Caraboose bat kit. If you're going to be 80% the same deck as Spawn then you might as well play Spawn.
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>>181546997
Maybe if you can 1-shot without putting them in vengeance
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>>181546997
You're more likely to die from the neutral aggro than you are from spawn in this case.
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>at 2111 master points
>hour later I am 2085 master points

I JUST FUCKING WANT TO GET GRANDMASTER AND THEN NEVER PLAY THIS SHIT META AGAIN UNTILL THEY PATCH IT
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>>181547102
Not him, but what's the Carabosse bat kit?
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>>181546837
you wrote "drop cudgel" though not "drop cudgels"
i guess the only retard here is you... and also that other guy with reading problems
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>even when cards like Spawn exist, people will still never ever run wards or utility cards
>people aren't running decks that can capitalize at all on turn 5 and 6 of Blood being do nothing turns

It seems like most classes have cards that can either stop followers from directly attacking or can do some other form of damage or health manipulation. Iron Maiden is a great card for dealing with these neutral heavy decks and Spawn. Haven also has that card that does not allow its leader to take more than three damage at a time. Sword has Roland. Blood has Mask. Forest has Homecoming. Haven has Themis. Rune has Mutagenic and Winter. I think Dragon has cards that turn a random enemy into a Dragon (I can't remember if you need to be able to target though). Every class has wards and healing available. I definitely think part of the point of Spawn was to force people to start using Utility cards instead of 100% aggro or greedy combo tools.

I'm not saying the card is not overpowered, but I am saying that in a lot of the matches I win with Spawn, it was avoidable by the opponent if they had played differently. The idea of this card getting nerfed before Albert, Eachtar, or Sybil does upset me greatly though. Those classes all dominated the meta just as hard and all they got were wrist slaps.
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EPIC
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>>181547276
There isn't a polished proven list but some Japs in Masters have been passing lists like this around. I don't think this version is really good or anything but the concept is there. Bats them, Caraboose, burn for game.
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>>181547267
just spawn bro
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>>181544512
Okay but this method is still a WIP so you may not get perfect result. First you need to hit ranked and play at least 50 games with majority of them losing to bad draws or opponents god draws. Record your results and show them to a luck/skillshitter who will promptly tell you it is not luck but skill that made you lose because it is highly unlikely only you are so unlucky. Now this is the important part - pray and wait for lady of misfortune descending upon that skillshitter. When he starts losing his cool over his seemingly unending lose streaks, come over to him and whisper this spell: it is skill not luck. This spell will sacrifice his bad luck to the lady so this is very important you have done this step. The final part is easy, go over to the shop menu and keep chanting it is luck not skill while opening packs and you will get exactly the cards you want. I hope this method will help you get the legos you want.
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>>181546949
>>181546774
Enjoy
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>>181547102
really i should know better than asking here

i mean it's ok if you call it shit etc, but when you say crap like a neutral aggro/tempo deck doesn't have "identity" because it doesn't use spawn... you are a waste of time to speak with

do you call all aggro decks without spawn lacking identity? tfw before wd there was no identity in aggro blood, spawn is our savior

next time i better ask reddit
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>>181547378
Thank you very much Mama Forte
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>>181547525
Oh I see, yeah this sure is a lot of easy burn and face damage. I have all these cards so I might just give it a try, but I'm not sure if it'll have much mid-game presence once the evolutions start going off.

Thanks for the list.
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>>181547585
100% legit
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>>181547276
if you change imp lancers in my deck to carabosse, they basically serve the same purpose
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>>181532376
>>181532234

It wouldn't be as strong without the ability to tutor it at a reduced cost, but it would still be a useful win condition especially against more control heavy decks that are looking to remove your threats. And though it requires an evolve point to do it, you can get the damage guaranteed if your opponent has a follower up. On the flip side, Albert loses his damage if the opponent keeps wards up.

I imagine the nerf would just push the neutral deck to be slightly more midrange orientated. It already runs two eight drops, four seven drops, at least four removal spells, six four drops, and usually about two to three five drops. I wouldn't be surprised if Airjammer sneaks back in and such.
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Based Melvie
wish I wasn't poor so I could get Oz, though.
Also dis nigga dropped 2 gobus that pulled 2 lyrials and still managed to drop 2 spawns
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>>181546430
By Lion do you refer to the legendary? Isn't that dumb to use in regular non-neutral storm? If you mean boardclear Lion that one is pretty useless against powercreeped overbuffed overstatted stuff you face.
>>181546741
I tried Disciple but I don't like her, 4/3 is annoying as it dies to BKB, cudgel and so on, I'd like it much more if it was 3/4. I can try Urd to see if it's better now and just 1 dogma, because more than that sounds like brick. As for tribunal + naoise combo, sometimes it worked, sometimes it did not, I feel I am not high enough on ladder to meet enough blood to justify him. And lastly concerning DJs, I tried 3 this expansion but it seemed too bricky to me, I always drew all 3 together too soon taking up space for more useful draws(like garudas).
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>>181547863
I am glad my method works for you!
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>>181532620
What are you even trying to say? The problem with LB is that it banishes. Also, with all Dragon cards now you have to take their cost into effect. Emeralda is a seven cost. LB is a six cost in a class with cards as broken as Sybil and Oracle. They are going to be playing cards like LB on your turn four or five.

LB hurts Shadow and Haven. It hurts all cards with last words. Emeralda does not. That is a huge difference.
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haha, fuck you Spawn
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I hope they nerf Spawn so you bandwagoners fuck off back to shadow
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>>181548149
>to shadow
why
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>>181548149
>already have x3 Dark Alice
I'm ready boy
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>>181548149
you mean dragon, no you mean rune, no you mean sword, no you mean elf
fuck off, it's blood's turn to get run into the ground as the cancer of the meta
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>>181548270
the great win rates of vengeance blood last xpac was not enough for you? you sound like a bandwagoning shadownigger
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I got fucked.
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>>181532763
I'm hoping they don't do formats for a long time. All it did for Hearthstone was give an excuse for the devs to almost never buff or nerf cards.
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>>181547934
What needs to be understood is that a deck doesn't need to be beatable by the whole meta, it only needs to be beatable by enough decks that you need to reconsider taking it.

Right now the only decks that reliably beat Spawn are Control Haven variants. If Baphomet is nerfed but Spawn stays the same, he might still destroy midrange decks but it won't be the easy follow up to Neutral Aggro it is right now that prevents control decks from challenging it. They shouldn't kill the card, they need to bring the deck that abuses it in line to a point that it encourages other decks in the meta.

If Spawn still wins against most of the meta right now but it starts losing to say, DShift and Nephthys consistently, then those decks will see more play. People start running decks to counter those decks, then decks to counter the counters, and we get back to Spawn decks. That's what makes a healthy meta.
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i hope you all realize spawn has n neutral synergy (if anything it has blood synergy) and is used with neutral engine only because neutral tempo is very strong right now

without alice, tove, gleader etc it would be used with disagreeable demon, panty raider etc
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Give Forest good cards that use their class mechanic.
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>>181548408
see u on youtube
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Is dirt rune countering spawn some kind of meme? They have too much healing and win the battle of attrition.
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thoughts for mid range?
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>>181543612

Why not ? They have lots of random effect cards that can hit ambush. That 2pp return to hand for example.
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>>181548395
You're right, I do play shadow, since DE.
Now you get to know what it feels like to have your craft raped by bandwagoners.
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>>181548480
>panty raider
>when Big Australian Bloke exists
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>>181548480
*has no
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>>181548485
no
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>>181536665
how did he use up both of his evolves at turn 6 without having evolved spawn
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>>181548408
>playing the same cancer deck
You deserve it.
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>>181533376
Wouldn't the more logical conclusion be that way more AAs are playing again? I was stuck in AA hell all last meta because I gave up on it because of how oppressive Dragon and Shadow were. A lot of people quit Shadowverse last meta.

This is the start of a new expansion so everyone is excited to try to start climbing again.
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>>181548532
Countering spawn by itself is far from enough.
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>>181548468
>Right now the only decks that reliably beat Spawn are Control Haven variants.
But burn rune is very strong too
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>>181548513
not dirt rune exclusively, but rune in general
because of mutagenic bolt/winters caprice
dirt rune is just being used because it got great tools this expansion (Oz and Young Levi).
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>I almost never have a two-drop on t2, maybe I should put some more in
>look at my deck
>15 two-drops
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>>181548526
I saw that list earlier today and cannot for the life of me understand how it works. I'd want to try and fit Teenas in there somewhere personally but I really don't know if the deck needs it.
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>>181548617
he is already used by spawn together with scarlet, but currently they also sometimes run teena who could be swapped

a bad example probably. ok, vampy and veight
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>>181548641

Probably has to evolve trade something earlier to prevent lethal.

As you can see,even that didn't help him lol
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>>181537234
>>181537312
I've been using Neutral Blood exclusively since this meta dropped. I win a lot of matches because I trade. When going second I couldn't care less unless my hand sucks. It gives me more cards to work with and an extra evolve point for Spawn later.

This meta really exposes people who were good at Hearthstone versus people who never played a tempo based game or were Hearthstone refugees. Depending on the matchup, it is so easy to completely overwhelm aggro players who went first and refuse to trade.
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>>181548817
>veight
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>>181548641
vs perfect curve
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For those of you who gave up and use the cancer deck: do you run rapunzel or not?
Pros: immune to bodyguard fanfare
Cons: attack handicap
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aww fucking cocksucker
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>>181548727

Then the problem isn't blood being t0 but neuts in general.
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>>181548270
>it's blood's turn

the exact mentality that's ruining this game
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>>181534619
I think people are exaggerating. I've been playing a lot of ranked and I come across a lot of Neutral Blood, Elana Haven, Neutral Haven, Neutral Sword, and "Earth" Rune

In fact I see A LOT of Haven and Rune right now.
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>>181548958
Why did you let it live?
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>>181549008
this so much
>its ok guys, we nerfed the cancer that was eachtar to the ground, he's no problem anymore :^)
>I currently diligently play control vampire
>prints spawn
>did you rike it
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>>181548951
I don't. It's pretty critical that you're able to hit face at least twice in the first four turns, which makes her drawback occasionally pretty poopy.
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>>181548958
out fucking played
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>>181549061

because this neutral rune deck is garbage
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>>181545923
>just opened my first lego after 77 packs
>then there's this faggot
die
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>>181548747

I fail to see how c haven can reliably beat spawn when they have to eat 6-8 dmg each time they try to remove him.
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>>181546741
Do you think that Storm is better than Neutral? The lion seems pretty strong.
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>>181532796
This is really cute.
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>>181548951
It's too easy to lowroll with Rapunzel. IMO she's only good if you go 2nd so you can evo the next turn.
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>>181548468
Burn Rune and Forest both give Blood a hard time if they spend a turn fishing with Baphomet. Roach will always be the bane of Blood decks. It is like people collectively forgot about the other classes that can do insane damage from hand using one or two cards and maybe one turn of setup.

I think Rune is probably the strongest counter to Blood right now in general. The polymorphs are really effective and the slower Earth decks have a lot of ways to stay on top of the board. If you have a decent health lead, Professor is a great way to deal with Spawn just like Tribunal is.
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FUSHIGI NO SEKAI, SUTEKI NO SEKAI
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Post bad decks your having fun with.
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>>181548958

>melvie instead of oz
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>>181549416
*NA, anon. NA.
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>>181535546
because he is trying to taste the rainbow obviously
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>>181549304
They don't have to remove him. Iron Maiden is also a great answer to Spawn and Neutral heavy decks in general. Plus, right now they run a lot of heal so they quickly heal back up the damage they took.

Also, keep in mind what it means to destroy Spawn in those situations. It is huge tempo loss for a deck that has no draw engine. Once they are out of evolve points all you have to worry about later on is four damage from one of their expensive storm cards.
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>>181549512

I have no spells in the deck and melvie gives me up to 7 cards.
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>>181532287
Play neutral forest dumby
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Please don't nerf Goblin Leader, Cygames. My Atomeme deck loves its new friends.
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>>181549656

So that's why you lost :^)
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>>181549738
They won't nerf it. It's literally an aesthetic knight.
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How do i survive long enough to drop tilting at windmills against blood?
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>>181549656
Oz is still better though. In this meta you don't want to give your opponent seven cards when they are likely running Neutral heavy aggressive decks with poor draw. In fact, if you have a follower heavy deck then Oz is even better than usual when played on curve. She will draw you five cards with no downside. Her statline is good and she only banishes spells.

She also gives reason to run cards like Dance of Death and Piercing Rune. She's just too good to not run in Rune right now
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>>181549008
I'm sorry if I made that sound like a positive thing, I'm just super bitter that Shadow got turned into the turbocancer class last pack to the point where minthe memes were met with "kys shadownigger".
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>>181549656
Melvie's problem is filling the opponents hand too
t. poor jebfag that also runs her
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>>181549508
too much draw imo
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>>181549831
u give them a free bapho on 5 to play tilting, then you let them play spawn and you do hamza+ace dragoon
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>>181549304
Control Haven can afford to eat 6-8 damage each time they try to move him. The Neutral Blood list is powerful but it's fragile, so disruption by Cinderella or Teena in the early game just shuts off their aggression since they don't have much in the way of card advantage. If you get passed that hurdle you can afford to remove Spawn on 6, heal on 7, then remove another Spawn on 8.
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>everyone forgot about Grimnir

I'm still mad. Not only did they choose not to nerf him despite recognizing how overpowered and used he is, they added far more significant support for him. Now he can be buffed and help enable a bunch of other cards, and still be used as a finisher. As a Spawn user I find Grimnir is often my best tool against defensive decks. He will always be too strong.
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>>181549831
you still have sybil rehab etc broken stuff together with ramp
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Can I have a concede please? 65426
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>>181550068
I want to ____be her
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>>181550032
I will never forget him. He's cancer and should be nerfed
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>tfw the only reason I'm on the english dub is because of Scarlet Sabreur's voice lines
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>>181549368
Even if he thinks that. I am already out of vials because I crafted Snow Whites. I don't have single Alice or Lion so I am stuck with regular storm, that's why I asked here in the first place. Should have probably crafted set of Alices to be on safe side, could have whored with neutral blood now as I managed to get 1 spawn, crafting 2nd or 3rd this month would be easy.
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>>181550068
Thanks!
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>>181550192
kys dubcuck
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>>181549642

It's not really a tempo loss for a deck that aims to burn down your face. Every spawn deck I met doesn't really care if their spawn get removed since they still have plenty of ways to burn down your hp and their early game is solid with neut package. It would already be a miracle if you get past t5 without losing at least 4-6 hp total. The rest is just chipping game for them. Only maiden can truly counter it and relying on 1 card isn't what I would call reliable considering blood has like 12/40 chance to pull him.
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>>181550192
its better in the original
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>Nep will never get anything interesting added to support the deck
>it is still almost exactly the same as it was when it came out

Such a bummer. The deck is fun but I get tired of how little it and its matchups change.

>>181550187
I just won a match against an Earth Rune because of him. I remember how upset him and Bahamut made me back when I really wanted Earth to be a thing. Grimnir twice in a row is such an insane finisher.
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>>181550158
discord?
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>>181550032
I played an enhanced 3/4 Grimnir against a shadow once and his Khawy triggered to heal for 3. Ended up losing because I was 1 damage off.
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>>181538520
Legendary Gambler Tetsuya
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>>181550158
we already know this board is full of wannabe trannies
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>>181550068
>>181550158
I want to smell your ass
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Hi, i'm a new play and i'm downloading this game from Steam right now.

Wish me luck; i'm going to be browsing this thread for a while
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>>181550489
TURN BACK
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>>181547525
Made the deck, except I'm down 1 Carabosse and 1 vampiric fortress (I teched in 2 lethal blades instead)

Won 3/4 games pretty cleanly, so it's pretty good. Also I never drew Carabosse, Vampiric Fortress, or Lethal Blade...
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>>181550489
>wanting to play shadowverse
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>>181550489
Not even memeing its not worth playing.
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>>181550296
They can pull Spawn from just Baphomet, which a lot of decks don't even run three copies of. Iron Maiden is likely a three inclusion in Haven decks right now and is useful no matter when you play it.

As for burn, they run Emeralda and Alucard. Those are seven cost four damage dealers. Grimnir is the other big finisher. Right now I'm not seeing lower cost storm or things like razory claw in Blood decks.

And yeah the Spawn deck is going to care about it being removed if they are up against a big board too. They often don't care because people will often barely punish the Baphomet summon. It's so bad that sometimes I can just play a raw Baphomet on Turn 5 and not even evolve him. Against Neutral Sword, Haven, or Burn Rune though it can get way scarier, especially Burn Rune.

If Burn Rune is playing cards when I played Baphomet, and then turns around and plays Mutagenic, then it's over.

>>181550489
Good luck! Just try to have fun. Also, don't forget that you do PLayer Matches based on your Ranked Match rank. Therefore I don't recommend doing a lot of Ranked Match until you're more comfortable with the game
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Oh shit I almost forgot to drop some info yesterday.

So I was waiting in line at AX17 for the shadowverse, when the one of the promoters/Directors of Aksys games showed up asking to speak to some of the people in charge of the shadowverse booth. They exchanged buisness cards and the guy from Aksys games was asking if the can have a formal meeting for some buisness.

AND THATS IT! I'M HOPING THIS MEANS GUILTY GEAR OR BLAZBLUE CHARACTERS MIGHT HAPPEN!!!
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>>181550489
Read about rerolls. Post results here
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>>181550048
Rahab gets beaten down quick with tove or that 5 drop bane card. Siybil is just 3 heals. By the time i get overfeels its too late.

Why the fuck is blood allowed to have this card and lightning blast gets nerfed.
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>>181550489
dont be retarded
reroll in an emulator/on a phone
only then link it to steam to play on pc
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>>181550323
No it's not, she doesn't even laugh on attack
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>>181549368
I've been playing both storm, elena, and neutral with golden lion. Early on in the meta storm was a force to be reckon due to march and garuda combo dealing 9 damage and having a very bulky board. Now that I have to deal with the relevance of spawn I cry because of long games I eventually lose. Elena is inconsistent but when it gets rolling it can roll really fast. Neutral is more fast pace and can easily force your opponent to concede by turn 4. It can run out of steam though if you fail to draw stuff. Lion might seem hard to proc at first but then you realize goblin princess procs him 3 times and goblin leader procs him twice everytime. For now I prefer neutral because of the more consistent relaxing wins whereas storm is always on the edge of losing or winning.
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>>181548850
>>181548949
he played baphomet on T5 + evolve trade
then on T6, he spent 5PP, which is the exact cost of spawn
unless I'm being retarded, how did he use the other evo point
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>>181550727
MAKE IT HAPPEN
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>>181547525

The thing with caraboss is that it stops you from using good 7pp like emeralda when you play her on curve.
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>>181550727
It's too late. Dead game.
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>>181550817
tove dies on turn 2 to salamander's
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How do you unlock more emblems?
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>>181550859
He got the Spawn out of a Demon Key, i'm guessing.
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> Oz into Caprice
> clears my board, spams 1 cost spells and removes the oz death downside
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>>181549831
Same way this guy did.
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>>181550859

He probably has a leftover follower in t6 apart from bapho and has to evo trade it to stop lethal because it couldn't reach,that's where the second evo point went.
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>>181551002
Fuck off reddit.
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Honestly I don't give a fuck about the shitshow known as ranked or any of the bandwagoning shitters on this thread. I literally just do my dailies and fuck off for the rest of the day.
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>>181550817
>This card from a class I play was overpowered and got nerfed after two months but this card from a class I don't play hasn't been nerfed after five days CYGAMES REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>181551082
You get the emblem if you pull the card in packs. Others are from events and monthly rewards.
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>>181551105
Golly it's chilly here
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???
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How do I fit a 3rd Garuda in here? Is 2 Grimnir fine or will I need a 3rd? Please send help.
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>Got two legos from one pack today
>Fairy Dragon and Officer Timmy
T-Thanks
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>>181550706

bapho can be pulled from gobu and feena so that's 12/40. Granted if they run other 1-2 drop it will pollute the chance.
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>>181550817
Lightning Blast was oppressive :^)
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>>181551263
That's kind of the way to do it really.
That's what I do, as well as playing a bit of unranked. I'm in A0, and I honestly see a good deal of variance between decks. Obviously I get the odd neutral shitter, but the rest of the time they are new decks with new cards that aren't from last expansion.

Spawn is apparently cancer, but I've legit seen him twice. I couldn't give less of a fuck.

You've got a good attitude.
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>>181551392
>Vials: 46700

I'd drop an Eagleman for Grimnir, though.
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>>181547525

why not just replace carabosse with literally any 6 mana storm unit like imp lancer?
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>>181551392

>playing snow white without doggo
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>>181550591

i have met some netdecks with 2 carabosse too, for instance this one

https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=ja&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=http://xn--shadowverse-e63t796khk9bk11e.com/%25E3%2583%2587%25E3%2583%2583%25E3%2582%25AD/%25E3%2580%2590%25E3%2582%25B7%25E3%2583%25A3%25E3%2583%2589%25E3%2582%25A6%25E3%2583%2590%25E3%2583%25BC%25E3%2582%25B9%25E3%2580%2591%25E3%2583%259E%25E3%2582%25B9%25E3%2582%25BF%25E3%2583%25BC12%25E9%2580%25A3%25E5%258B%259D%25E4%25B8%25AD%25E3%2581%25AE%25E3%2580%258C%25E3%2583%258B%25E3%2583%25A5%25E3%2583%25BC%25E3%2583%2588/&usg=ALkJrhgHIyuTMdm6oaXalLyGQtX16DiG4A

i am not sure if carabosse is even worth it though, when she seems usually be worse than imp lancer
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>>181550337
>implying nothing in this expac can be used in Nep
Demon Eater's been great for improving consistency, especially in the early game when you need to kill your Corpses reliably against the neutral rush. I'm getting real close to considering Nightmare Executioner as well, with how much defense-buffed shit there is right now he could pull his weight since I'm still running 2478 anyway. As other anons have already said, Khawy's one of the only useful counters to Spawn, since his heal will activate before Spawn's damage, so Nep's in a pretty solid place right now. I'm still working out my techs and such, but from my games so far I'd be surprised if she doesn't settle into T2 at the absolute lowest. The only thing I can tell you for sure right now though is that you really want to drop the Ledger shit regardless of which 4 follower costs you like to run; not being able to trade with the shit it summons will get you killed against the neutral curve, and the value of two 4/4s a turn apart for 4pp has gone down significantly with what everyone else is throwing out now.
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>keep win trading as cancer blood, cant climb
>switch to storm haven
>shoot up 600 points

storm haven was the first deck I built when I started during steam release, and I can always depend on it
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>>181551392
>>181551528
Eagleman for Garuda*. The deck honestly seems a little unfocused. You might have some consistency issues.
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>>181550489
Don't listen to all the angry people, it's still a pretty fun game.
Also I never bothered rerolling, just vial stuff you don't need to make what you want.
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>>181550849
Wow, that was the explanation that I was looking for, thanks a lot anon. Can I ask for your Neutral list?
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>>181551640
deck?
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>>181551502
And a lego with ambush and FREE 6 or 8 face damage at turn 6 isnt?
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>>181551598
I cant fit doggo into a Neutral/Garuda build, otheriwse I'd run him. Snow white is good by herself though. Kills Grimnirs and Toves by herself.

>>181551528
If I can afford running only 2 Eagleman, I'd probably drop him for a 3rd Garuda to be honest. I think Garuda is way too good, especially with Teatime
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>>181551384
just themis bro
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Hi; i'm the new player, and i've been reading a bit about the game, but i have a question to ask

Does this game has alot of RNG involved? I don't want to have to topdeck all my cards to win like in Heartstone or have to have lucky rolls on all the cards i play.
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>>181551558
Not my deck but I assume the idea is that Caraboose gives you inevitability. You sacrifice your consistency on a turn 6 win to improve your long game. It's not about her burning for 3 over three turns, it's about her drawing you the Razor Claw you need to close out.
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>>181551528
that's the new standard for deck prices
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>>181551614
Yeah, when I do draw her in my other deck, she doesn't really feel like a legendary. A 6-6 body for 6 (or possibly 3 from Bapho) with a 1 card draw and 1dmg ping feels like a gold, honestly.

Over time that 1dmg ping stacks up and the card draws are hugely helpful, but I only really get this feel when the other player is more or less bricking. You don't often get to hand around for 4 turns past T6 in an aggro deck.

I'm trying to see if there's a way to make a decent CBlood (ha ha meme) deck where you can get a really oppressive carabosse stack going.

But yes, in this deck it's better off with Lancer.
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>>181551870
no RNG bullshit anymore like Yogg and Mad Bomber but if you don't curve out you get raped.
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>>181551686
Well I have yet to test it. This deck has about the same Neutral count as a Neutral blood list does, except instead of having the midrange blood and spawn engines, it has the lion/garuda engine for mid-late game and very cheesy boardfloods that can punish Neutral Blood players since they usually dont run Rev nowadays.
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>>181551870
Draw RNG is present as always but effect RNG is rare and with only one exception, can always be manipulated.

The exception in question hasn't seen play in over half a year and it's not even that bad because every result from it is a defensive play.
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>>181551926
tfw the long awaited wincon for cblood it's spawn/
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>>181551287
I play blood and winning with it is boring as HECK.
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>>181551640
Mind posting a decklist? I agree with basically everything you said. Ledger is a cute card, but it is so bad against Midrange and Aggro because it triggers at the end of your turn.

I think Nep has consistently been a solid T2 deck since it was created. It is a very balanced deck in that regard. Can do well against all styles of deck, but also can lose to all styles of deck. It isn't an Oppressive "Anti- X" deck like say D-Shift or Ramp Dragon, where you just auto lose against them if you are Control.
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>tfw haven't seen a single dshitter since the start of WD
At least one good thing came from this new expansion
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>>181551650
Post dick
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>>181552090
>>181552009
Nice. Thanks for the answer guys! I was hoping to find a game that wouldn't make me mad, because i really dislike losing to pure luck.
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>>181544693
I really like this image
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>>181551887

sounds like a worse aggro bats that loses to heal shit anyways
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>>181551926
You can no longer increase in PP so running her in a strictly Control Deck seems really awkward.
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>>181551870
There are very few random effects in this game and they can be somehow controlled with proper deckbuilding, losing or winning a game thanks to a lucky roll on a card ability is something that never happens, except in the lowest tiers. Currently the card with most luck required is jabberwock, but it's extremely hard to play him and you'll probably never see him.
Since this is a card game, bricking is a possibility like usual, but again if your deck isn't trash and you know how to mulligan then you won't lose by bricking except for THAT game out of one hundred.
Arena is a completely different topic, that place is pure draft RNG and how badly the matchmaking wants you to lose.
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>>181552307
people still play pure aggro bats
how good is it going? post deck pls
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>>181552468
Bats haven't been good since forever. They never get any meaningful support.
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>>181552242
>tired of playing Aggro on ladder
>decide to switch to Control for a change of pace
>immediately cue into a Dshitter
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New leaders when?
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>>181552107
If that's control then I don't want it.

I remember the days when Control Blood was Bloody Mary, Lucifer, and Temptress Vampire, with dire bond spam and lots of other self harm options.

That was a true thinking man's deck.
And then I hit A rank and it wasn't good enough!

>>181552371
That's the single downside that's completely neutering the idea right now. You can't play her early to maximize your effect, but playing her too late means you barely get any of her buffs. I suppose the best way to go about it would be to get as many of her in hand at 3PP and just throw all 3 down at turn 9 or something.
But then that would require 3 Baphomets...
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>>181552468

Do you see me winning in the image? It's shit because there's so much ward and heal that just shuts it down.
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>sword gets to turn 9 with 1 evo point 2 cards in hand
>im on 9
>she concedes
???
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Is there any counterplay?
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>>181552546
This has consistently happened to me every meta. It is a shame because my favorite decks since I first started playing were Control Blood and Dirt Rune. Decks like Dshift and Ramp Dragon have always been these no fun allowed roadblocks. It amazes me how often I run into Dshift when playing Control, even in Aggro dominant metas. They would rather drown in losses against aggro if it means occasionally just destroying another deck for free.
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>>181552691
expected to topdeck IKUZO
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>>181552619
wards and heal don't shut down neutral tempo though (especially neutral sword) and that's mostly face damage
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>>181552605
Me too anon. I will forever lament the days of classic Control Blood being over. Now you'll just lose for free against just about every deck type. I miss unironically thinking Temptress, Queen Vampire, Dire Bond, and Mary were good cards. I miss when Bat related cards were all basically utility to help deal with Aggro as well as put pressure against Control.
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>>181552734
just double elf twins' assault bruh
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>>181552879

that's not the point
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>you lived long enough to see Elana become the true thinking man's deck.
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>>181552910
>Dire Bond
that card is still good though, no one uses temptress because it messes with your baph pulls
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What other game are we all moving on to?
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>>181551870
with the game ending at turn 5-6, the only thing you can hope for is top decks
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>>181552910
I remember a time I threw down Mary and they let her live. They let her live! The following turn I evolved and hit face with her for 6 and did another 13 damage in reflected self harm! It was glorious.

Now she's an absolute dead waste of a turn for little to no pay off. But she's still bae.

but also Carabosse tho
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Can someone post the overfeel Rowen wojak please? I need it.
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>>181550849
Did you run snow white in neutral? I have 3 Lions and Alices but only have enough vials for one snow white.
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>>181553010
candy crush
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>>181553089
mary wasn't viable since darkness evolved
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>>181553010
CGSS
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>>181553089
I was excited when I saw Key because I felt like she could potentially make a comeback then. I still think that might be plausible if the meta slows down and she gets more support. I tried to make it work when this expansion first hit, but I was running basically the KYS Blood deck but with the addition of Mary, Keys, and Dire Bond.

Mary is still my favorite card in the game. I love that card. I hate that she wasn't even a choice for Leader. Her design and English voice are amazing.
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>>181553151
Which one?
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Anyone else getting squat from packs?
Nips hate me it seems
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>>181553436
>>181553519
Yeah this one thanks.
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>Looking glass + Alice
>Flood board + Catacomb
>Eachtar for 17 damage
Good to see arena is still fair.
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>>181553291
Yeah I know, I was talking about those early days when she was first introduced. She's been crap for a loooong while now.
Kinda feels like if Cygames would retroactively change legos, they'd make her like a 1-3 for 2 with the same effect. Then at least late game you could true combo her with dire bond and claws, and heck, even Belphegor and Soul Dealer.

>>181553489
I just love that her gimmick is essentially Urias punching himself in the face but the opponent gets the bloody nose
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What's the WD haven storm list? I need it for dailies.
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>>181553753

same shit except you put some march hares in there to combo with garuda on 6 and maybe some snow whites to deal with neutralfaggotry turns 3-4
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>>181553602
Oh you don't know the half of it, buddy.
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>alright I play alice and buff my stuff
>wait how many goblins did that goblin leader spawn again?
>forgot to count, who cares anyway they are just goblins, it'll be fine
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>>181553556
I learned my lesson I think two expansions ago. I am convinced the absolute best way to handle packs in this game is to saveup the entire time, spend all of your gold the second the next expansion hits, and then save up again. If you buy forty plus packs you aren't going to get anything worthwhile anymore because you'll have everything. Just dust your extras and craft the specific Golds and Legendaries you want.

I also learned not to craft too early unless you are confident it will be good. Snakes taught me to think more critically about what I make. It was very obvious that Alice would be amazing so I triple crafted her. I crafted Spawn too because it is nearly unavoidable damage so it was obviously strong as well.

For example I really wanted to craft Cinderella or Oz, but I knew those were cards I could wait on. Same with Lion and Snow White. They aren't safe crafts.
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>>181551762
>>181552204
I'm still in low Masters since I've been doing a lot of deck experimentation rather than trying to seriously climb, but this is where my Nep list is currently and it's been pretty successful. If you really hate the Neutral curve you could justify cramming Teena in to your 4-drops, or Executioner like I said earlier to be a better threat against non-neutral early game. I'm running Sexton as a 2-of tech right now just to screw with all the neutral/storm/elana Haven players and for the sake of having a 2pp 2/2 to be able to trade into the Feria/Goblin Leader/etc. of the neutral curve, but if you don't care about banish immunity then you could just take 2 Spartoi for easier shadow generation. You could also make the argument that running Urd over Necroassassin or even something else is a bit greedy, and you'd be right, but I really like being able to rip the buffs off of neutrals that I can't immediately remove and being able to clone Mordecai against spawn blood or any other mid/control deck to secure lethals is also a nice bonus, so she stays for now.
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>>181553619
Well Mary is one of the most unique/interesting cards in the game. It is a combo piece that has a very neat effect. There aren't a lot of cards like that in Shadowverse. Like Hearthstone it is so obsessed with instant gratification in its cards.
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>>181550727
>Implying the cygames guy didn't crush his business card right then and there
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>>181554006
Now that I think about it

how the fuck do you even playtest half the shit in this game with a physical version?
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>>181554012
>bought 43 packs
>got a single alice and shit golds
t-thanks
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Nerf Lyrial.
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>>181554012
>mfw I crafted 2 Cinderellas

Netural Sword isn't even fun to play which makes it all the worse.
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>>181551760
General neutral engine with alice. In this case
>actress
>gobu leader
>alice
>gobu princess
>feena
March hare if you want is also a neutral card so you can run march hare into garuda. Run lion and 2-3 different amulets of your choice. Board space is tight though so only 1 drop I run is plea. Build your own is basically what I'm telling you. The neutral engine is powerful enough to win you games. The draws haven can get help fuel the neutral engine and lion can either win you games mid to late game. I've had 0 cost lion proc a plea into another lion proc another plea in order to fetch a banish so I could survive and win the game. In fact you could possibly try lion in storm haven since it's a garuda that could get spell boosted without the damage on wheels. Probably going to try that next.
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>>181554168
Or you know what would have been better for her? If she was a 3PP (3)CD amulet.
Or make the CD longer. Can't really say it's op if she's not even a follower to attack with.

I agree, I just like those kind of gimmicks and roundabout ways to do chip damage. Kinda why I like Carabosse. You slap her down and they're on a timer. GET MOVING, BITCH.
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>>181554257
you don't
just look at spawn
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>>181554257
lots of dice they're in the pic
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>>181552982
Non-countdown amulet decks are infinitely harder to play than any other deck in this game.
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>>181554257
Superior Japanese intellect.
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Say something nice about my wife.
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Man, this took some really deep thought.
I had to add numbers!
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Wonderland Dreams was a mistake
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>>181550849
Mind sharing your lists? I want to start with heaven and I´m lost as hell.
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>>181554584

What's the point of this card?
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>>181554584
She doesn't please goblins for money unlike that blonde whore
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>>181554584
That's a boy
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>>181554584
I want to dress up like her.
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>>181554584
I want to be her
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>>181553195
I'm running alice so I have way too many 2 drops to fit in snow white. You could try to build a less alice focused deck if you wanted to. For example snow white into the new 2/2 ward +1 is a good combination of neutral and non neutral. Combine that with march hair which also triggers the lion. Lion might not look good at first but it's basically a garuda that can pop from hand. Just experiment.
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>>181554584
There's no point to your wife because any Neutral-centric Shadow deck is highly aggressive, and therefore would rather end their curve into Eachtar than 7pp Morde.
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>>181554590
>no leaders
??
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>>181554584
I want to use her to banish Midnight Haunts from the board and make a consistent turn 8 PtP deck, but I didn't pull any of her and want to save the vials for something a bit more realistic. it also doesn't help that turn 8 almost doesn't exist right now
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>>181554584
What a cute boy
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>>181554679
Test of Strength + Satan or Grimnir/Hectors to soft board lock and burn your opponent out
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>>181554624
>>181554326
NO NETDECK. You could look for a deck online somewhere though or at least experiment a little in unranked. I've been messing around a lot in ranked for those lilac sleeves. Almost there.
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>>181554584
I hate her more than Morde.
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>>181554082
>top nep hat at the bottom
good shit

Nep seems to be working pretty well for me. Even though Teena doesn't work with Nep, I still consider it a nice tech just because there's so many neutral cards running around. Your deck list has quite the number of removal, so doesn't seem like it's needed.
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>>181554257
>Implying they playtest anything
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>>181554082
>>181555136
My Nep deck does currently okay except against rune.
Any tips?
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God, this take 2 deck was fucking disgusting.


>>181554856
Running it on an android emulator and for some reason it doesn't render them.
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>>181554310
Same here anon, I wish I spent my vials on something like Jabberwock instead since that would at least be fun.
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>>181555431
>run blood in take 2
>get azazel instead of spawning cancer
>all matches consisted of me trying to flood board with storm in hand trying to pay 5 cost azazel
Was fun. I also played spawn and that was disgusting when it wasn't a mirror.
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>starting to get tempted to craft Alice

I feel like i'm being tempted by the dark side.
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>>181551123
Is the joke that he didn't drop windmills?
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How do we stop the abyssmeme, svg?
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>>181555689
Just craft two and play her. Then try to pull the last one from a pack and be a lucky shitter like me and get her and her emblem.
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You can only reply to me if you're not a neutralnigger.
Dirtrune bros, Storm/aegis haven friends etc
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>>181554310
>crafted sea queen day 1
>wanted to make windmill combo dragon
>after 20 games not a single successful attempt
>no regrets
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>>181554584
cute tail indeed
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You know what would be an interesting change

If they made khawy's healing and spawn's damage/healing cancel each other out. That'd give shadow a pretty solid edge against it.
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>>181554584
Her animation is really cool.
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>started a month ago
>get bunch of blood legendaries
>maining KYS blood
>fun and decent wins
>fuck shadow though
>wonderland comes out
>have the vials and cards to make neutral blood
>do it
>win
>win
>win
>win
>just win
I have become the cancer.
When's the nerf coming? Just so I know how hard to abuse this.
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>>181555910
Does control blood count?
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>>181556070
30th
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>>181555910
Nepfag reporting in.
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>>181556106
No spawncunts allowed
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>>181556160
Nice. Should manage to hit Masters by then.
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>>181555653
Honestly, blood in take 2 right now is absurd if you can build the right curve, completely disregarding abyss. And it's actually really easy to at the moment.

But I mean, I just don't know what the fuck you could expect someone to do to this board in a limited format.
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>neutral engine shadow into Eachtar

Fucking disgusting, fairly easily beats down blood.
>>
>finally figure out csword list that should beat neutral blood
>nep
>nep
>nep
>nep
>aegis
oh come the fuck on
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>>181556224
It's my only wincon, anon. I actually want them to remove baphomet's enhance so I can have my patrician class back.
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>>181556262
I think he'd have more of a shot dealing with it in T2 than constructed, since people pick Cyclone Blade in that mode.
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>>181555910
NEVER DOUBT JEB
Neutral spawn is T0 so dirtrune is T1 :^)
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>>181556316
It's because nep beats neutral blood too.
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>>181556396
This pic needs Oz
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>>181556302
But blood wins before you can play eachtar. And if blood doesn't go first it loses to a lot of things, well most decks do this expansion.
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>>181556409
doubt.jpg
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>>181556330
>implying blood has ever been patrician

caveman_vampy.jpg
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>>181555136
Yeah, I'm also thinking I probably don't need Teena due to how much other removal I'm running, but it's still a viable tech if the meta settles on nothing but neutral curves. Glad you appreciated the hat, by the way.

>>181555386
Which rune deck specifically? Daria, Dshift, control Dirt, aggro/burn Dirt, or all of the above?

>>181556059
It literally does do that, Khawy's heal trips before Abyss's damage, so you heal for 6/8 and then take 6/8 damage, canceling it out.
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>>181556558
Were you even here during DE and RoB?
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>>181556623
You mean two expansions where the most popular blood deck was aggro?
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>>181556532
That one 7pp card with ward which on death destroys the strongest enemy follower and then heals you for that much.
That's how nep counters spawn.
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>>181556562
>Which rune deck specifically? Daria, Dshift, control Dirt, aggro/burn Dirt, or all of the above?
Burn dirt since it's currently the most played and they fuck me with Winter Caprice/Mutagenic.
I don't think I've met Dshift once since the release of WD.
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>>181556757
And as always, it instantly loses to Haven which is the second most popular deck right now.
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>>181556713
And it was tier 1 for a single week. Literally the neutral sword of RoB. I still remember /svg/ posting shit like ">he mains blood and dragon".
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>>181555910
Burn rune here, have fun with the deck and don't care about ladder. I'm there for ruining Spawnigger day
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>>181556907
loses to jeb rune too
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SPOT THE LETHAL.
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>>181557060
Burn rune is my favorite new deck this meta. Turning spawn into a rat makes me day
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>>181556907
So it's just a rock paper scissors deal, what's the problem? Every deck can't win against everything.
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>>181557219
evolve garuda and trade, attack face with birb and hold until grimnir
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>>181557276
It loses to more decks than it beats, might as well just play Dirt or Haven but I guess shadowfags aren't very smart to begin with.
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>>181557375
You're an idiot. You go face with bird. Watch him clear the board. Then play march hare and evolve and watch the sick ass animation kill him.
>I actually did this
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>>181556562
Khawy heals before Abyss's death damage. Abyss triggers before Khawy heal while attacking, so it doesn't save you if he evo swings for 8 and it's lethal.
>>
Has the heart of the cards come through for you today?
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>>181556396
>Dirt Rune is actually tier 1
Never thought I'd see the day, bravo Jeb
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>>181557265
Once/if Blood gets nerfed it will definitely be the deck I go to next. As someone who loves C Blood and Earth Rune, I am sad that what it took to make them work was replacing the deck with 50+% new cards, but it's still cool to see them stronger.
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>>181557735
No, it's helping my opponents a hell of a lot though.
The last two people I played has Goblin Leader into Alice into Alice.
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>>181556396
Why is Tempo Dirt Rune called Jeb Rune? It can't just be because of pictures like this accidentally being right for once?
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>>181556562
>>181557714
Need to clarify, I was only considering the last-words damage in that post, naturally the evolve damage does trip before Khawy, but you just heal it back afterward so unless the 6/8 damage is lethal you still effectively neutralize it.

>>181556887
You can't counter Mutagenic removing your Mordecai, but you can handle almost all of the stuff they want to kill you with. You can hit Nightfall Mages with Lurching Corpse, use your normal removal on anything else they put out, and if they're crazy enough to run Magic Illusionist you can really mess them up by clearing all of their Rites before they get to use them on better stuff like Young Levi or Halo Golem. I personally haven't run into a burn rune list that gave me too much trouble, but that's the general way I've been dealing with them. Just be prepared to have the game go long since you both effectively neutralize each others' wincons.
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>Playing Dark Alice Shadow
>come up against Cinderella Cannon

>Eventually have Dark Alice, Siren's Tears, and Test of Might on field
>any time their cannon activates it goes to Dark Alice and THE FANTASY CONTINUES
>end up with beefy Unicas and Grimnirs
>Test of Strength wears off and I just go face for the lethal

this deck is amazing.
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>>181557757
>Dirt Rune is actually tier 1

my favorite /svg/ meme
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>>181557265
Dirt Rune is probably my favorite deck this meta, as well. This is probably the first time, since the game's initial release, that Rune has been enjoyable rather than cancerous or tedious.

I wish I didn't go bananas and craft 3 Oz though since I only use two now.
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>>181557816
I always in what world could we make grinder Earth Rune work. What kind of support would make Pascale playable.
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>>181557881
Of course.
It was supposed to be a shitpost just like Jeb actually winning the presidential, but as the reveals came by Jeb gained more and more power and the meme evolved.
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>>181557981
I was lucky and pulled 2 Oz. Even though i never have tried 3, I think it's too much.
>>
>playing shadow vs blood
>have 4 followers on board
>he played enhanced Bandersnatch his last turn
>even if he gets spawn I have lethal if I have at least one follower on field, I've won
>it pulls fucking Israfil

WHAT A TWIST!
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>>181557981
Yeah generally I don't recommend crafting more than two of any legendary unless it is a low cost like Alice, where it seems reasonable to run three of.

>>181557989
I just don't think it can work. They confirmed they never wanted stuff like that to work when they added Bahamut. That card effectively destroyed all non Dragon Control decks unless they are OTK based.
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Jeb dirt is the best deck ever created, fuck that gay chutulu
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>>181557903
At this point I can see cygames introducing guardian sun dark alice into the haven storyline. Send help. Send the banishcaust.
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>sword gets an overstatted 3pp 4/4 with permanent drawback: legendary
>blood gets an overstatted 2pp 3/3 with one time "drawback": bronze

Really activates my almonds
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>all these people complaining about trove
>not bkb the razory claw on wheels
When was having full 4pp stats with a 2pp effect for 4pp fair.
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>>181558298
>Guardian Sun Dark Alice

Jesus how horrifying
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>>181558445
Pretty sure people are complaining about every card in that deck
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So is Alice, Lion, and Abyss the safest crafts this expansion?
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>>181558320
A 4/4 is a lot harder to deal with than a 3/3 as the 3/3 dies to two cost removal by I think everyone but Rune now.

Cinderella is just a dumb card in general. I hate the design philosophy behind it. It is a legendary that sole purpose is to be slightly overstatted. A lot of legendaries being added are like this. They are simple triple includes because they are just very clearly superior to other options except with some sort of minor drawback. For Neutral decks, you want three Cinderella for sure.
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>>181558445
It's balanced because it deals a WHOPPING 2 damage to your leader :^)
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>>181558774
Forest can't consistently kill it either
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HOLD ME BACK BOYS
HOLD ME BACK
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>>181558774
yes, but if you don't draw your removal turn 2 and only have a 2/2 follower to play, you've essentially lost the game
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>>181558749
Alice, Abyss, Oz(kind of), Snow White
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>>181558749
I think Lion is going to be strong from here on out. It can even be good on curve. That being said I wouldn't consider it an auto craft right now especially since Haven is currently leaning on heavy defensive play.

Alice is 100% safe though. You can run three Alice in basically every class right now and turn it into at least a T2 deck with the Neutral package.

If Blood cards get nerfed Abyss may end up not being useful. Control has other cards it can run instead and if the early game power that Neutral Blood has right now is hindered, it won't be able to afford playing Abyss. If BKB, Emeralda, and Scarlet are nerfed then it will be really hard to get Abyss down in a lot of matchups
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>>181558932
she's fun
and like another anon said, she has a great death animation
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>scarlet can hit face
God I fucking hate the team that designs bloodcraft cards
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>>181558932
>>181559015
How are you supposed to use her?
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>>181558932
you could have stopped me
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>>181559051
Yeah man fuck the guys that gave us such disgustingly overpowered cards like Maelstrom Serpent and Bloody Mary
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>>181559157
I think you just use her in a Neutral heavy deck. As far as I can tell the point is just that she keeps coming back.
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>>181559157
Test of Strength softlock + direct damage neutrals like grimnir/hector/satan
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>>181559157
like other cards?
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>>181559157
From what I've seen, there's two general deck strategies for D.Alice:
first, the custom apocalypse deck, which is the meme I'm running, I use ledger for the first half and value cards Odin/Arriet/SahaLuci/Baha etc. for nut draws once Alice activates her LWs.
the second is similar, but with fewer cards in the neutral portion of the deck, as a shortcut to drawing Satan while you stall with Test of Strength (basically bootleg sunsatan)
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>>181559003
At worst, Spawn will go from crazy to good.
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>his tribunals killed two servants and Satan
>he has 3 Grimnirs
>3 Curate
>draw Astaroth after 4 turns
RNG is really rigged for me after WD patch
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>>181559360
>>181559368
>>181559418
>>181559446
Well shit that sounds fun, shame I dusted mine to craft a second alice
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>>181559191
Why would I?
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>>181558774
the entire expansion is pretty bland in terms of legendaries

sword gets overstatted and boring
shadow gets shit mordecai and meme mordecai
haven gets overstatted and neutral carrier
rune gets overstatted and meme that's only viable because of mutagenic
blood gets broken shit #1 and #2 to push it into tier 0
forest gets overstatted and (overstatted?) trash
dragon gets two meme but at least they're interesting
>>
> win 6 ranked matches

YOU CAN'T MAKE ME
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>>181559560
just goblin bro
>>
>>181559560
> win 7 matches (unranker, ranked, take two)
> go ranked
MADMAN
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>>181559536
Jabberwock gacha dragon is really fun as is hitting people with 18/22 Genesis, but yeah, they're not exactly competitive decks.
>>
>>181559536
>doesn't like meme legendaries
get a load of this faggot
>>
>>181555910
Dark alice, satan memer here
shit's fun
>>
Do i make a lion deck or a nep deck
>>
>Only need to win one more match to get the next score reward
>Lost 5 games in a row
Kill me.
>>
>kill enemy blood's spawn with lurching
>they flounder for 4 turns
>eventually drops grimnir
>drop my own grim for lethal
>he dc's

Nice spawn loser.
I even left my field nice and empty for his turn 6.
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>>181560092
The choice should be clear.
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>>181560038
what do you run for the shadow portion of your deck
just standard midrange stuff?
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2/3 the way till lilac sleeves. I want to give up. Save me from this blood.
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"fun"
>>
Sword count down amulet
5pp with a 6 countdown timer
Once per turn you can attack with this amulet to deal 4 damage to an enemy follower, subtract one from this amulet when you resolve this effect.
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>>181560203
I like Ledger, since you don't mind burning your your deck anyway. Attendants can be kinda bricky, though
>>
>>181560378
>playing amulets that don't kill your opponent
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who the fuck still plays memehime

I lost because cool storm face damage every turn into turn 9 alberto
>>
>>181560203
not him, but Lurchings, Necroassassins, Attendant of Night, Siren's Tears, Khawy, and Zombie Party are all good choices. My deck is kind of based on the Looking Glass/Siren's Tears/Dark Alice synergy but works fine besides.
>>
>>181559717
Know any good deck lists for Jabberwock?
>>
>>181555910
What am I? I'm an elana, storm, lion neutral, neutral sword nigger, ramp tilted hamsa, nep nigger.
>>
>>181560203
all the random removal shit, ledger, removal spells, and attendant
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>>181560530
just topdeck jeanne bro
>>
>kept losing to spawn
>built spawn
>now every match is a mirror match
Seriously, what beats this cancerous deck?
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>want to climb to GM with haven
>still no premade decks to buy x3 Aegis

I mean, I know control haven got a pretty shitty neutral blood match up, but I do need the jeannes for Lion builds anyway
>>
>>181560530
>running nosey in the first place
>not playing him on turn 8
What is this lack of foresight.
>>
pls i want a sword deck i have 40k of vials cinderela and alice.
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>>181560743
The uninstall button
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>>181560530
>losing to Swordcraft Sword
>with that hand
>with that board
you're a shit player mate
>>
>>181560743
Neutral rune secret t1
>>
after actually encountering it I can say that Spawn is indeed oppressively good thanks to Baphomet
>>
>>181560743
Surprisingly there is a decent amount of tactics to the mirror match. It is all about baiting the opponent to play Baphomet and then punishing them.
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Whenever I see Rowen I get happy because it's a freebie.
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>>181518351
>All cards info (so far):
>https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UCa5IN0zZVWRTmZGcSjWpykIi1QR8j-c60fqE9qFb-Q/edit?usp=sharing
Remove this from the next OP.
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get fucked spawnnigger
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>>181560575
Try Satancat's version and change what you don't like. Don't expect any consistency though, the deck is strictly for fun and not laddering.
>>
>>181561275
>haven psychos complaining about anyone
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>>181561275
I wish I could use him in my storm haven deck. Hound + Snow white is just too good and I don't wanna have too many 2drops.
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what's the funnest meme deck
I need to free myself of ranked sins.
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>>181561275

oh shit
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>>181561275
"dude lets cuck sword some more, let's take their the only meaningful legendary since albert and put a better version of it into haven lol"
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>>181561424
PtP Haven
>>
>>181561424
Atomy is my favorite.
>>
>>181561443
outskilled
>>
>run into an Atomy deck who gets Atomy out turn 3
>tfw I was forest and have been teching in pixie mischief for spawn

I'm sorry Mordecai.
Wait for turn 4 Elta Evo next time.
>>
>>181561505
Durandal protects followers and doesn't last only a single turn.
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>>181561275
Looks like the chemo train has arrived :^)
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>>181561443
>>
>>181561708
>>181561708
>>181561708
new thread
>>
>buy some crystals with the last bit of money from making steam sale purchases
>open a daily pack for lol's since its only 50
>animated legendary
>Zimitra
>realize I opened a standard
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>181561443
fucking played
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concede?
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>>181560530
He is keeping the dream alive god bless him
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Uh. Fuck? Not really complaining since I also got my first Alice today and opened Oz + Snow White day one, but it's always the animated memes with me. Case and point - Anomaly last set.
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>>181564997
what's the point of this card
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>it's a overstated follower with a "drawback" episode.
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>>181566917
To fuck Shadow over in Take 2.
>>
Do we already know which cards the pre built decks will have?
>>
>>181566917
to pay for Hectors crimes
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>>181567771
What drawback?
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>>181568865
Exactly.
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