Ace Combat General #317 - /aceg/

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AC6 stream :https://pastebin.com/cYtzQPY2

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why is /aceg/ so comfy

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Reminder to not fall for the sublimation meme.

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<< I've had my fair share of going home without wings. >>

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>favorite edition

Yes

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>>181445592
Just trim it out buddy.

reminder that the NAVHawk is the best AC3 plane

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>>181447906
Nah.

>he fell for the sublimation meme
enjoy being dead irl and having a modifiable copy of you existing to be played with

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>>181447906
>best AC3 plane
This is an hard pick

>>181448567
Yo buddy, whens the next strem?

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>>181447906

>>181449351
no time soon i'm afraid, cant update my graphics card until i get some cash coming in which means leaves me unable to stream without running the risk of my cpu and motherboard melting on me

>>181450243
dumb neet

>>181450382
hey fuck you i got a job now

>>181449351
There's a stream right now. An Ace Combat stream.
>>181445187

>>181450019
It reminds me of STEALTH.
I don't like STEALTH.

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>>181451791
>he doesn't like STEALTH

>>181452334
>>181452334
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goPki_V34xA
FUCK YOU I HATED IT.

>>181452334
What the fuck man, you can't post headless people, spoilers or no.

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>>181452334
this is now a STEALTH thread

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>>181451791
>Stealth but the drone is replaced with some guy in a Nighthawk

>>181445681
I wonder where dijon went

>>181454065
I'd definitely play that.

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What a beauty

>>181451537
Fuck, am I late again?

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>>181454575
UN Squadron is probably the closest there is.

>>181455173
It's still up, get in here and meme with us.

>>181455185
Will check it out, thanks.

>>181455214
>https://pastebin.com/cYtzQPY2
is the link provided in pastebin working? I'm getting ded stream

>>181455509
We switched to mixer. Go there and search 'Thunderceptor'

>>181455509
https://mixer.com/Thunderceptor

>>181455924
the absolute madman

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>>181455924
Oh shit buddy what are you doing

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>>181455924
this man has bigger balls than all of us combined

Why are napalm bombs so shit

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>>181459757
Because they are specifically made to be effective only in The Inferno

>>181455924
>playing 6
What makes him a madman?

>>181461618
Because posting direct links to streams isn't allowed, that's why people who stream usually post a pastebin that has the actual stream link.

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YES

Fapfic anon, can you do a story about Ludmilla and Melissa being captured by the Emmerian partisans?

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>>181454970
I've always wanted to see what the YF-23 would end up looking like if it were adopted, considering how many changes the YF-22 went through.

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>>181465875
>tfw we'll never know

IT ISN'T FAIR

>>181465948
GATOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

>>181465675
What game are those characters from? I've only played 2, 4, 5, 0.

>>181466559
They're from 6.

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Finished all 3 Zero routes, the final one on Ace difficulty, with my fallen planefu.

Feel absolutely good man
What a goddamn masterpiece of a game. I still prefer 3 for various reasons, but holy fuck.

Now to attempt to play AC4 on software rendering. But only after trying that mysterious mission I unlocked. "The Gautlet"? I wonder what it is.

>>181465875
I'd kill to see this too. It's really not fair

>>181466867
Ok, can you tell me more about your request?

>>181467468
>"The Gautlet"? I wonder what it is.
The Demon Lord will prove his might over the Round Table once again, even if it's in the nightmares filled with the faceless squadrons he tore through over it, and maybe even himself in the process.

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[SPANISH GUITAR INTENSIFIES]

>>181467640
I'm not the requester, he just didn't seem to be going to answer

>>181467917
Oh ok.

>>181467832
Hark! Snow doth cometh

>>181467832
>>181468790
Vulpine II!

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A-10's a good plane.

>>181471269
A-10 pats your F-4'S ass. What do you do?

>>181465675
So it seems like these characters only appear in the cutscenes, not in any gameplay. I'll give it a watch a few times and maybe I'll write something up. No promises.

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>>181471269
Unfortunately, no plane can survive being rammed into an aerial fortress.

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>>181471719
Disintegrate into a fireball that envelops both planes.

Why does AC4 have the comfiest outfitting music?

>>181472223
>not AC7

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8Ge02qW5G0

SGDQ is going on right now, is it possible to speedrun the ace combat games?

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>>181472554
>speedrunning

literally a good sign of autism

>>181472721
We sure know what was wrong with Warcrimes.

:^)

>>181471787
Thanks! Can you also make it a bit rough?

>>181473112
If you have specifics you want, please email them to me directly instead of dragging this discussion out in the thread. Thanks.

>>181473597
Damn, smut is serious business.

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Eurofighter is cute!

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>>181474316
the rafale is cuter

>>181474316
Note how you can't see the intake from this angle.

PULL UP

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>>181477873
DON'T LET THIS DIE

I love you people
it's nice to be spending time here

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>>181478624
/aceg/ is without a doubt, the most close-knit internet community I've ever seen.
Pic related.

>>181478826
THE JOURNEY BEGINS

>>181478826
Not sure if AC7 will have multiplayer, but if it does and has voice comms, we should reenact that shit

>>181479068
i can be everyone's favourite AWACS

>>181478624
I've been saying this from the very beginning

This is really the comfiest thread here

It's so chill that you can have small talk about other games or stuff without degenerating in a shitfest

>>181479068
No offense but I don't want to talk to you guys.
I'll fly with you, and listen to what you have to say, but I don't want to talk to you.

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>>181481095
>being a faggot

>>181481095
How could this possibly be expected to no come off as being a prick

since there's going to be a PC release how likely are mods to be made?
I can imagine that custom skins would be a given but how much further could it go?

>>181481826
Difficult to say, UE4 is pretty moddable but Bamco might want to keep a lid on it, for whatever reason.

>>181481826
easily moddable but it all depends on whether bamco allows it or not

>>181481890
>>181481993
I hope bamco are cool cats and let us mod stuff in.
I want to fly my planefu, Mave-chan and pull some hella hektik post stall manuevers.

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>>181482197
>mod /aceg/ plane into AC7

So, any ideas on what the f-104's major plot point is going to be?

>>181482454
It's going to be in Project Wingman as is.

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I don't think bamco would allow modding for AC7 for a good reason.

UE4 is easily moddable, which means DLC sales will be extremely low, so this will be a problem for them.

>>181483192
I would argue that Elder Scrolls games are super moddable, but those expansions still sold like crazy.

>>181483307
the expansions were made when the mods were just items and re-skins.

nowadays, almost anything can be made, including huge-ass expansions bigger than whatever bethesda shat

>>181483192
I'm sure they'd be able to get decent DLC sales from the console owners.

>>181483307
they sold like crazy because consoles

>>181483387
huge ass mods that went way beyond the original game have existed since the 90's.

>>181483836
not for 3D games like elder scrolls between 2011-2013

>>181483915
Look into the mods for original Deus Ex

>>181483915
http://www.moddb.com/mods/project-reality

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>>181484068
>>181484064
shit, didn't know

>>181484157
Haven't you ever heard of a 'total conversion' mod?

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>>181471949
Of course, of all the planes in that formation, the Lawndart fucked it up.

>10

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Playing Ace Combat X: Skies of Deception for the first time now and it's great!

I really love that the story is told through drawings and a side character's narration again, exactly like in AC04. It's a format that as far as I'm concerned they could've used for every game in the series. It's minimalist and nice, but very powerful. I guess it wouldn't work with more involved games like AC5 though, where your character actually exists outside of the gameplay and cockpit. I suppose it also wouldn't be as special anymore if they did it every time.

I'm getting a very dystopian vibe from it. It's actually similar to AC04 in that way too.
And I know Ace Combat is pretty dystopian at its core already, being a series about a world in which war and unrest are constant and large-scale wars emerge literally every 5 years. But the vibe is usually more upbeat or hopeful.

Especially the hangar and mission select theme, that you hear between missions is absolutely terrifying. It's very uncharacteristic for AC, and I love it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAjuTkZ_pQQ

>>181486960
sounds like a slow-mo version of dead sea

>>181486960
Glad to see someone enjoying it, to me X is almost Holy Trinity quality. Also that hangar theme is one of my favorites.

>>181486960
I don't find them that terrifying, although I can see how.

Now about the Gleipnir theme

>>181487252
I listened to that on a loop for about a week straight.
I was in a bad place.

>>181487963
pull up

>>181472953
Rude desu, i'm still working on that guns only run of acx by the way. Any tips on which version of mission 12 to take? I'm not looking forward to getting fucking destroyed by the meson cannon OR having to gun run missiles.

>>181488763
I'm just taking the piss m8

>>181488797
Don't play into his piss fetish.
>We don't need him writing about that next.

>>181488797
Yes, i'm not actually offended you goober. But seriously which missions do you think would be easiest to do with guns?

>>181488928
The one where you eject yourself from life.

>>181489391
Kek, go fuck yourself

>>181489638
I'm just trying to give you an easy mission to do with a gun.

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>>181488721
I did, thankfully. That was about a year ago. Now I've got the AC2 soundtrack blasting wherever I go.

>>181490227
BULLSEYE!

>>181487252
To be fair, terrifying was perhaps an exaggeration, but it is very dark. Really captures the melancholy, hoeplessness and folly of war.

And yeah Gleipnir's theme is actually unnerving. ACX' soundtrack is very unique.

Bump desu

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>>181493869
>stealing my bump

Replaying Zero. What are some of your favorite parts of this game?

>>181494478
the whole game

>>181494478
the moment when gelb shows up over directus

Shame their fight's a bit tame.

>>181494478
Zero

>>181494478
>>181494698
It's interesting. I've only ever played the campaign in these games, never did any free missions to improve scores or ranks or anything. The stories are just too good to not just play the campaign again.

For me, the missions in these games are also mostly made memorable and great by the music. I'm not likely to remember the map layout or landmarks or anything by heart, but when I hear the music I remember some key moments and emotions.

So for ACZ missions and tracks like Merlon, B7R, Glatisant, Juggernaut, The Inferno, Mayhem, The Demon of the Round Table, The Valley of Kings, Avalon, The Stage of Apocalypse are all highlight missions for me.

To be fair that's a lot of missions... may as well say the entire game...

just saw on the e3 trailer, trigger's logo is behind the 3 stripes
>what does he mean by this?

>>181495819
I forgot, Glacial Skies is also a fantastic track too!

>>181495820
The maintenance crew got triggered by his problematic insignia.

Man... I haven't played Zero in forever (last time I did I'd rented it from blockbuster...) QAAM is so disappointing lol

>>181497308
>using any SPW other than FAEB

>>181497308
What do you mean? QAAMs are crazy persistent. I remember firing one in Blockade in AC04 and watching it do two loops around the target until hitting it. Cool as fuck!

I usually go for 4AAMs (or XAAMs?) though for those 4-kill-combos and to have spare active missiles if one of my normal ones misses.

>>181500356
QAAMs are basically a guaranteed kill in 04, not as much in 5 and 0.

>>181500356
Yeah, in AC4 they're godly, I just tried them in AC0 for the first time (at least in recent memory) after playing 4 a few months ago and I barely noticed a difference between them and the regular missiles.

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STOP
INDISCRIMINATELY
ATTACKING
CIVILIANS

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>>181500775
>Civilians being bombed
>Oseans blamed

Keikaku doori

When picking a plane, how exactly does the air-to-air and air-to-ground stats effect the plane?

>AC movie about 1994XF04 and the development of Stonehenge with additional world building and detailing the conflicts soon after the asteroid
Oh god I wish it were real

>>181500472
>>181500479
Oh, I didn't know that. I guess I never used them in AC5 and 0 because I felt it was almost cheating. What a shame!
I wondered why they were so bad in Infinity too.

Don't eject yet!

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Dead

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dude no vertical stabilizers lmao

>>181479068
>custom squad intros when loading into a multiplayer match, complete with generic music or music from other games that requires certain tasks to be done
>can recreate intros from Zero, or make entirely new ones
>tfw when you and your buddies with your custom squad name and emblem all fly in a single-file line, before doing a Pugachev's Cobra one by one and forming a flying V
>tfw you and your buddies will never fly against an ace squadron from Zero with hyper-intelligent AI controlling them, completely destroying all of you unless you're all the Demon Lord in disguise
I have extremely high hopes for Ace Combat 7. I know I'm asking for too much, but my boner would extend 10 inches more if that's implemented

>>181506268
Holy shit, the frontal view is basically the Wyvern's.

>>181501216
Outside Infinity I'm pretty sure all that stat does is show you how suited they are in terms of loadouts. Unless I missed something where the regular missile changes damage based on those.

>>181506789
>twist: you need to perform the intro in free flight mode in order to use it
Cue terrible looking intros

>>181508547
>record squadron intros in free-flight modes for them to be used in multiplayer

>>181509054
That's what I said. It'll be fun .

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i know, the image didnt post for some reason
here it is

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>>181509187
Now I'm hyped for a feature that we'll never get.

>>181509258
id like to imagine if all of us ever had a squadron for AC7 MP and could record an intro we'd at least have autism levels of coordination and preparing for it so it looks like we're on point

>>181509475
I'd have to fly with whatever other europeans hang around /aceg/ because the only other AC player in my friend's circle (and owner of the AC6 copy I use) uses novice controls and maps accelerating and braking to the triggers instead of the traditional bumpers.
He also got through the campaign because I unlocked the Nosferatu for him.
My situation is quite dire short of doing a great sales pitch to some other friends and convincing them to buy AC7.

>>181509676
i am a britfag on pc
we can squad together

>>181509756
Great, I'm a spaniard, and on PC too. I wonder if the steam group will come back to life or a new one will be made.

>>181509676
I'm not an /aceg/ regular (yet), but I'm Swiss so we could easily team up too when it's out!

>>181509951
we have a steam group? send pls

>>181510106
We gotta build the /aceg/ Belkan Expeditionary Force European Theater Division or something along those lines.
/aceg/ Osea Burning, European Theater Division? I'm not good at unit naming.

>>181510261
It's a public one. I don't remember why there's the "404th air division" and the "Ghosts of the 404th", though. Need to ask someone who was actually there when ACAH happened. I was a tad late to the "party".

>>181510396
I'm no Belkan or Osean! Usea forever!

>>181510803
My sapinish guitars play too loud to care about borders, but given that /aceg/ seems quite inclined towards BELKA STRONK, I figured I might as well crack the joke. The "Osea Burning" was to make a joke more in line with AC7.

Thematically speaking, /aceg/ is probably closest to AWWNB or the mercenaries. A mix of different nationalities, planefus, and neurological disorders.

>>181510106
>Swiss
I'm going to pretend that I don't know you IRL just in case I do.

>>181509756
>>181509951
>>181510106
Pizzafag on PC here, ready to join you lads when the time comes

>>181511153
so we'd be Ustio's 6th Air Division, united under the cash and a chance to fly in combat unrestrained compared to fighting for our home nations

>>181511153
The most on point descriptor for /aceg/ I've ever heard.

>>181511182
Well I don't know anyone that likes Ace Combat (unless I can get my mate into it), so you probably don't.

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>>181511415
Directus?

Can a buddy please enlighten me about the buildings in AC6 and ACI. How often are there actual buildings there, and how often is it just the ground texture pretending to be a building?

>>181511643
S A N S A L V A C I O N

>>181511803
>neurological disorders
pretty much every city in AC6 has actual buildings, they're just low enough that you'll never really fly through them unless you're actively trying to

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So these just arrived this morning
Props to you based patch anon, keep it up

>>181512230
>Getting the emblems of war criminals and traitors
Typical Osean.

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>>181512338
t. belkan

>>181511218
Hey I'm not alone

>>181512445
this is a belkan image board
get out osean

>>181513438
Since when?


Real talk now, I really hope that patchbro will remake Galm and Belkan flag patches

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>>181513781
From what I understood he already ran a batch of Galm patches in the past. Dunno why he didn't do another on.
>>181511263
>pic related
>>181512607
We are everywhere senpai

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>>181514316

>>181513781
>Since when?

I guess that line in the latest fapfic is canon.

>>181514445
post the whole comic

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>haven't touched Ace Combat in several years
>dig out my old PS2 and play some AC5 for the nostalgia
>start a new campaign
>select hard difficulty, don't want to suffer too much yet
>mfw having a super hard time killing the planes in the first mission
>but the following missions are super easy
Is the first mission intended to be harder than the rest for some reason or am I just rusty as shit? I used to beat this game on ace no problem

Also I really really REALLY fucking need an HD remaster of these games, the graphics are truly showing their age and playing on a 1080p tv doesn't help

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>>181515297

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Obligatory morning Flanker post

Is there any sound more relaxing in the whole wide world than the sound of rain pittering on the roof at night as you try to sleep?
The answer is no.

>>181515934
The soft and steady thrum of an engine.

Fapfic anon here.

Just wanted to give interested parties an update. The AC6 fic should be done within the week. On a side note would people be interested in a story set in the ace combat universe but with original characters, or should I stick to writing schlickfic?

>>181516359
I was never interested in the fapfics, but if you wrote a serious story I'd probably give it a read.

>>181516359
I would definitely read about an ace nighthawk squadron

>>181510396
Not really AH, just an enclave that encroached into itself and then seceded.

>>181517995
Could you detail it a bit more? I'm curious.

>>181518060
Pretty sure the steamgroup just sort of became its own thing that wasn't in the thread anymore after a while. Forgot the details tqbh.

>>181516359
I monstly read the fapfics for the parts inbetween the porn anyway so if you wrote a non porn story in any capacity I'd probably read it

>>181500775
How much milk she produce a day to be distributed to her citizens?

>>181483192
I'd still buy the DLC even if there was modding because I want to support Project Aces

>>181512607
Make that three.
Even if my PC is a potato.

>tfw not a Euro
Well, would be cool being an Erusean squad but I guess Osea stronk

>>181515458
I love it

>>181517264
Are you saying the fapfics aren't serious?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdJ_mkgFeAE

Because it needs reposting every thread.

>>181520957
>Implying
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiezdBJhdNk

>not gotta stay fly

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>>181521562
>ywn go seal club fishbeds in with your buddy in your Flanker and Raptor
I didn't say it was a contest.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KP87SToC3k4

>>181520230
Wait, 3 pizzafags here including me? Where were you during all this time?

>>181518882
Lol what parts are even those?

>>181522015
4 actually, including you.
Fuck's going on

>>181522357
>Fuck's going on
There are a lot in aviation for some reason, at least around here.

>>181522681
>>181522357
Wait, so most italians here are in the aeronautica?

>>181523334
Not what I meant. I meant in Switzerland.
No clue if anyone here is in the industry.

>>181523334
Well, dunno about the others, but it ain't my case.

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>>181523334
Whish I could, but shit eyesight cockblocked me
I've often been to Ghedi since it's near to see the Tornadoes though

>>181522015
Drawing things on SketchUp.
>>181523334
No, and I have no intention of doing so.Even then, actually getting in is an immense load of bollocks.

>>181516359
If you write a squadron, can we vote on the plane?

>>181523747
>SketchUp
What are you making?

>>181523875
I already mentioned what planes will be featured. If I actually get around to writing it. I'll probably end up making it a fapfic, but there'll be considerably more plot than "plot".

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>Varcoloc squad fight

what the fuck

>>181516359
i'd love to see a fic where Blaze suffers from PTSD, becoming increasingly suicidal in his tactics each mission until he miscalculates one of Ofnir's movements during an arrowhead attack and collides with the S-32, cutting off his right wing in the process only to continue on with his mission to destroy the SOLG before making a crash landing into Oured Bay and nearly killing himself in the process

>>181524848
>dude dodging lmao

>>181524848
Use the Nighthawk to assert your dominance.

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>>181523876
Soft sci-fi heavy/strike fighter. I wonder if you buddies have ever tried to draw something for fun.

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Just go them, thank you Buddy!

>>181525759
The fuck? I had just rotated the pic.
Also, they are really BIG patches for big pilots.

>>181524848
A garbage retarded bossfight, very fitting for a garbage retarded game.

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>Sky Crawlers auto levels your plane with no way to turn it of
Damnit, it's fun, but that makes aiming so much more difficult than it needs to be.

>>181525671
Oh it's you.

Those guns are oversized tbqh. Are the seats recessed into the ground? And I'd just put a sliding door there, or just one.

>>181525868
If you post from your phone it will sometimes rotate pictures for no reason. There was a time when everything was Australia.

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>>181525759
>>181512230
>2 buddies got their patches today
>there's a high chance your patches comes today too

I hope we get something similar to the beach mission in AC4 in AC7, with that shitty weather.

>>181526275
Can see it happening even just as a showcase for the weather effects.

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>>181526342
im more interested in burning a city to the ground

>>181525971
Don't talk shit about JA, it's a good game outside the final fight.

>>181526342
A fog mission could be cool too, not sure how much they've done with the weather aside from the clouds

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So what did Project Aces meme by this?

>>181526275
Same, those D-Day type missions are top tier.

>>181526209
>Those guns are oversized tbqh
B-b-but I love big guns! And these need to punch through a light destroyer's armour!
>Are the seats recessed into the ground?
Yes, placeholders. I'll put some better ones.
>And I'd just put a sliding door there, or just one
Noted, correcting now.

>>181526209
Also m8 I'm digging the shit out of this plane design.

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Fuuuuuck

>>181527745
Run it in software mode

>>181527801
>run in slowasfuckware mode

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>>181527801
FUUUUCK

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>>181527190
I'll probably try and give it some new paint at some point, just to get it away from the Skyly a bit more.

And by that I mean I still don't know how to texture in Sketchup so I'll just use the paintbucket again.

>>181527189
>guns
I can see that, but at that size they probably couldn't hold more than a shell or two each, nevermind that that looks bigger than a battleship's guns.

Here's what I made a while ago, the chin guns are all 150mm, which is already overkill. None of this design is final.

>>181527801
>if you want your cpu to melt, try this

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>>181527886
>>181527940
>>181528093
Works fine for me, no slowdowns.
980 and i7 4790k tho, maybe only works on setups like that

>>181528198
where does your fucking cpu come from, nasa?
mine rees if i even hover my finger over F9

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>>181528093
I wish. It's in fact not even USING my cpu at all.

>>181528259
I mean, it gets pretty hot, 75 celsius
Nothing it can't handle though

>>181528452
what the fuck
software mode restricts it to the CPU only
how the fuck did you do that

>>181528747
That's just how it works with AMD cpus. I expected this when buying it, still I thought it would be fine for the PS2. Welp

It's okay though, I'll just play through AC4 in hardware mode with the HUD view.

>>181528038
>shell
Kinetics are for primitives, all these weapons are plasma-based.

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>>181528979
>That's just how it works with AMD cpus

BUT I HAVE A FUCKING AMD CPU

>>181528997
>not using kinetic weapons
How are you going to mineshell then?

>>181529071
The Ryzen's architecture is all new, so there's no optimization at all. Regular PC games barely ever hit 50% utilization, too. You'll see this in every benchmarks.

>>181529238
im gonna have to get one of these for christmas
then i'll be back in the game

>>181529117
With a Focke-Wulf?

Is the fapfic anon writing another story?

>>181531472
Please tell me that's just a filter and not Poland's inability to clean their aircraft.

>We will carry out the new creation of destruction through the power of righteousness

I don't know why I'm bothering to play as Knight in Zero. I'm almost done, and can afford to own 1 wyvern and that's it. SORRY FOR NOT CAUSING COLLATERAL DAMAGE USTIO, you fucks.

>>181533490
dude those windmills killed more people than the nukes did, you fuck
you let those monsters continue to run rampant, how do you feel now?

>you can just flee from bosses in AC4
Lmao

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>>181533668
>windmills
Those were belkan giants, green targets, fool!

>>181533490
There's enough green targets around, just murder all of those.

>>181533490
That's why you do the mercenary route first, so you can carry over the planes on your next playthrough.

I just want to know what you guys think, obviously it's hard to judge since we haven't played it yet but am I the only one who isn't really feeling the Arsenalbird as a superweapon? These's still stonehenge and the space elevator though, so I'm almost sure it won't be that important, just another huge ship we get to shoot down.

>>181535428
There appear to be multiple arsenal birds.

Goddammit, ACX's plane roster is so great. Too bad there's only like, 4 fun missions in the game.

>MUH AC4 shitposters keep talking about how great it is and how much AC5 was ruined because of scripted setpieces
>Decide to go back to it since it's been a few years since I last played AC4
>Scripted enemies that you can't shoot down and whose planes do absurd maneuvers to dodge your missiles
>Enemies scripted to be impossible to shoot down in the middle of a fur ball mission where your managing yout missile count is crucial
>Horribly long "Get x amount of points" missions, most of which and with up to 1 and a half minutes of you flying doing nothing after getting an S rank

AC4 is the most overrated game in the entire franchise.

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>>181536357
this

>>181536513
>>181536357

If AC6 had a decent number of planes and had been a finished game, it would take AC4's place on the holy trinity.

the only reason people like AC4 so much is because it's the first AC game they played back when they first got their PS2s. It's the FFVII effect.

>>181536705
I think that the level variety was pretty good at least, the night mission, the fog level, the beach level had really rough weather. I can't recall a single level in 5/0 set under a starry sky

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>>181536357
Story mostly, 4 has a more grounded and real one than the rest of them, which adds to the appeal. And Yellows are just a cool enemy squadron.

Plus Yellow 4 is a cute.

But yeah, they used the "Get X Points" mission way too often in 4.

I still put most of them on the same level, I just like all these games way too damn much to really rank them.

>>181536819
The mission in AC5 where you have to defend the airport takes place at night

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>>181536513
>complaining about anime cutscenes in a Japanese video game

>>181536705
I think you're forgetting how bad AC6's plot and writing are, though. At least 4's story is genuinely moving.

>Lots of side-stories, none of which are very focused or interesting
>none of them are connected in a thematic sense, it's literally like the writing team just came up with a series of unrelated anecdotes and crammed them in
>JRPG aesthetic isn't half as good as the old-school-manga look of AC4, the realism-plus CGI of AC5, or the documentary style of ACZ, or even the 90s-anime AC3
>MATILDAAAAAA
>Go dance with the angels!
>the only parts with a potential for emotional impact are horribly mishandled
>Melodrama everywhere
>Shamrock's family dying isn't remotely as interesting as PJ or Pixy or Chopper
>Strigon are badly underdeveloped and get only a couple scenes before they're dealt with
>Estovakia is a fucking joke

6 was never going to be on the level of the Holy Trinity.

I agree 6's gameplay is significantly better than the Holy Trinity era, though

>>181537102
Doesn't the SOLG level do so as well?

>>181537164
dont forget how 6's missions were way too long and drawn out to be enjoyable sometimes

>>181537076
I don't know, I like the Metal Gear with planes approach they took afterwards. 4's plot always struck me as a generic lifetime made for tv war movie. But that's entirely subjective and I prefer my japanese games with cheese. I get way too much grounded realistic war plots in western games already.

>>181537323
Some of them verged on half a fucking hour. There really should've been a more consistent mid-mission save or checkpoint feature.

I really liked operations, though. It felt like I was making real tactical choices when unlocking ESM areas, airfields, extra support and shit

>>181537164
>Mission where the nukes go off in AC0 takes place at dusk
>SOLG mission in AC5 takes place at dawn

Pottery

This is a minor point, but I remember an issue of the EGM magazine way back in 2007, and it had an interview with the Infinity Ward devs about COD4, and I remember the journalist praising it for having the balls to have a nuke go off, and they talked about how it had never been done like that in a military game since it subverted the rule of heroes disarming the bomb.

I got really pissed back then because AC0 did the same thing one year before, and no one talked about it

>>181537146
It's definitely a troll post.

If nothing else, nobody on 4chan sincerely confuses the difference between Japanese and weeaboo. Ironically 4's plot is probably the least weeaboo plot in the series and its art style is generally quite realistic for anime, lacking things like large eyes, exaggerated facial expressions, and unnatural hair color like 3 had.

>>181537906
>vidya media is full of shit
Who'd have thought.

>>181537102
Chain Reaction is the best mission in the game.

>>181537629
dont forget the ultimate pottery
>31 December 1995, Cipher and Pixy face off over Avalon Dam, deciding if V2 will usher in a new era of of a borderless world
>31 December 2010, Razgriz and Grabacr/Ofnir face off over Oured Bay, deciding if V2 will usher in a new era of Belkan strength

I got way too happy when I heard "Kestrel II" on the last trailer, but I have a feeling it'll be a red herring and the ship will probably get sunk 4 missions in.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kP0S3xL2S8U

>>181515374
use the emulator, the 2x native option really helps with its poor aging

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>AC04 is now hated

did /v/ came to visit or is this happening?

>>181538953
/v/'s been invading for a while after E3
they'll go eventually as we forget they exist after a while and they come for the attention

>>181538953
>hated
I'd say you're overreacting a bit there.

>tfw sent on a suicide mission in Sky Crawlers
>tfw reinforcements purposefully held back
>feels like Journey Home but now all your squadmates are dying
>last one deserts at the end of the mission and you're forced to shoot him
Fuck this Commander and his stupid clone pilot shits. I wanted to desert with that buddy.

>>181539932
Main fork Dolphin runs it at about 20~25 FPS for me. What fork are you using, buddy?

>>181540519
Ishiikura Dolphin, check the OP of /emugen/ I think there's a link there.

It's not perfect, but it runs at 100% most of the time with no special settings. This mission just now was laggy until I got less targets in sight for example, but it's the first one.

>>181540774
>Ishiiruka
Correction.

>>181540774
>>181540904
>already have ishiiruka
I feel stupid for forgetting about it. Hopefully it plays at least at 35 FPS, since that's the speed I played AC4 with. Thanks.

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>tfw sun is out and beaming and a steady wind is blowing
Days like these make me feel glad to be alive.

Post tracks a sunny day makes you think of.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QDnYpXOV64&t

>>181536357
I've recently(ish) been replaying 4/5/0. I was pretty sure I'd played all of them, but only owned 5 and 6, and the other one.... As I was playing 4 I was like halfway through and still couldn't entirely remember if I'd played it, or if I'd just read what happened. Then there's one mission where an ace ( I think it's a yellow) shows up, and if you shoot it it flees the battle. So I chased it to the end of the map trying to shoot it down, it escaped because it was too fast to catch, and by the time I got back to the fight there wasn't enough mission time left to complete it.

>...
>oh I definitely remember being annoyed by this before
Confirmed. Had played AC4 before.

>>181541108
It's 60fps, as said, 100% speed most of the time, anything else is barely playable due to the sound fucking up so badly.

>>181541187
>no wind
>almost no thermals or anything
>overcast that dissolved halfway through
Best landings I've flown so far. Today was a good day.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ChUY0RaHkg

>>181538953
Actually I'm playing 04 right now and I'm surprised to see the graphics are better than 0's.
Seriously the ground textures are better, what's the deal with that

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>>181541187
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2atlpj7AGXU

>>181527745
>filename
I lol'd

>>181525671
Resize those guns and it could be ok

>>181541187
that piano track that plays inbetween Witner Storm and Unsung War in mission 27+ of AC5

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>>181541187
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0xUl_VRCmM&index=8&list=PLTFYcMOftvRVMwQweWGvsIRzrLm3Ofe8b&shuffle=26

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>>181541108
Also prepare for some flying/fighting autism a lot worse than Rena's.

>>181536357
>>181536513
>missing the draw of 4's story THIS HARD

So let's spell this out, the reason 4 has an interesting story is because you play the villain.

In most games, the player is an unstoppable force who is guaranteed to win. So when writing a story, how do you make it interesting when the player already knows that it will end in inevitable victory?

The AC04 team answered this by making the player NOT the focus of the story. By instead focusing the story around a third party to the war, it becomes much more interesting and engaging. You know Yellow Squadron will die to the player in the game, and you know that Mobius 1 will be the hero that saves the day. So by focusing on a third party, the story gets to explore the effects of the conflict from a viewpoint that's not so set in stone.

So no, the main character (the storyteller boy) of the story doesn't "have nothing to do with the story," nor does he somehow bitch at the player character for killing him. Plus, it's not like Yellow 13 bombed his house, and the kid never explicitly expresses that he blames the guy.

In short, this criticism of the story falls flat on its face because it's basically a series of strawmen.

On to the gameplay
>do X points in Y minutes
is an undeniably shit type of level. They're boring and drawn out in many, many cases.

>scripted enemies
Yes. This is a huge weakness of a series with such easy gameplay. No matter what enemy is introduced, a skilled enough player can shoot them down. This means that introducing recurring enemies must be done in a pretty hamfisted way. Just think about Zero: every ace squadron or team has no buildup, they simply show up and then you kill them in the same mission. Overall, this is a prime example of ludonarrative dissonance, and one that I hope Ace Combat can solve for 7.

>>181542265
>do X points in Y minutes
Why do you guys hate these missions so much? Lifeline, Invincible Fleet, Tango Line, even Glatisant are all comfy as fuck missions. I like the idea of extended operations.

Can somebody fucking explain to me how some cheesy animu arcade game from a genre that nobody even plays can make the player feel more like a badass than games like Skyrim where you are supposedly some chosen one who kills dragons and saves the world? In a media that is argued by some to be comprised almost entirely of power fantasies, why is it so hard to get right?

>Fire away, you coward
Jeez Pix. When the lasers and missiles fail you go right for the feelz. That's just mean.

Anyway, zero replay finished. I'll probably do all 3 again closer to when 7 drops.

>>181542942
because compared to the rest of the missions in the games where their fast as fuck and great they feel sluggish
when i boot up Zero i can always jump into Mayhem and know i'll come out pumped as all hell, but with Glatisant and Lying in Deceit they feel like a total drag compared to the rest of the game where everything else is fast paced

>>181515374
I think the games still look fantastic. The planes, the maps and lighting effects, they still look amazing. I play in component video mode so that helps. Still some stuff remains blurry, but it's hardly even noticeable.

>>181543824
I actually don't like Lying in Deceit, despite liking Glatisant so much. It's probably my least favorite mission in the game.

AC6 strim when?

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>>181527745
>ALT 6666
On the first mission as well???

>>181543503
><< It's not that you are unskilled. He just outclasses you >>
Dialogue in all of them. Nevermind that you are pretty much a god in all of these games.

Or who knows.

>>181543503
because ace combat has you play as a character with an established background (fighter pilot) going through a (mostly) linear story and missions. the objective(s) and gameplay are clear and straightforward.

whereas in elder scrolls games you're literally nobody in the beginning and you have to make your own story/adventure. there's several stories and you can do them in almost any order. there are no clear objectives that you must do and the gameplay has many different styles to choose from. all of this sounds like it could be great, but in the end you get another generic open world game with too much bullshit and you just wind up wandering around doing this or that and then you quit because you got bored.

>>181543503
The gameplay in Ace Combat is good and has a learning curve. Plus the presentation helps a lot too, the music, the narrative, the presentation in general. It's incredible.

>>181543503
with games like that its outright expected for the player to be hailed as this god slayer and thus its impact is diminished, but with the Ace Combat series their legend is built over time and its portrayed as you being a symbol of hope with the forces, hell, midway through Ace Combat 4 you'll hear ground forces say "I don't care if it's a lie, just tell them Mobius is in the air" or along them lines, something that seems so little but speaks mountains about how much a symbol of hope the player character has become

something always flairs inside the first time you hear yourself get called "The Demon Lord of the Round Table" or the "Ribbon Fighter" mid-combat against an enemy that outnumbers you and should out skill you which youre absolutely decimating

>>181544374
That's probably because Glatisant has interesting target areas, not just lots of little clusters of AA and buildings.

>>181546164
I just don't get why this seems so hard for other developers to pull off when project aces seems to manage it so effortlessly. A huge part of this is obviously that in all 3 of the main games you get the enemy (or friendly in your example) chatter that plays you up as the game goes on. One of the only other games I can think that does this is Far Cry 2 where the enemy mercs start shitting their pants when they know you're around if your infamy is high enough. 99% of games out there have you as an immortal death machine and then some rando trash mob is just like "COME GET SO-" *decapitated instantly. I mean I guess it's reasonable to assume there are people who think it's more badass to be wrecking these "tough" guys, and to some extent AC has that too, but AC just manages to strike a balance that I don't think I've seen anywhere else.

> << This is the round table. Dead men's words hold no meaning. >>

Fuck pixy, that's a badass opener.

>>181547514
its because the games of Ace Combat manage to create a world where this god-like player character is triumphant among hundreds of other characters that are of equal skill and are well fleshed out even if they have little show time, the likes of Albireo Squadron come to mind as an example, 4 aces that are shown for only 3-4 minutes in gameplay at best but are shown to be interesting with full voice acting and an intro that characterizes them as being by the book as well as being grounded as characters by enjoying simple games like chess

other games that usually attempt this have a few grand big bad villians that arent very relatable and the way that the player gains infamy is through killing hundreds of trash mooks with little skill while Ace Combat has the player killing several bosses of similar or equal skill to gain that rep which impacts the player more as they feel as if they've made an impact

>AC0 is $100+ on amazon
I'll never get to play it, will I?

>>181549864
Just emulate it. works perfectly aside from wonky menus

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>>181549864
what?

i got 0 for 12 bucks on ebay, hell i got 1,2,3,4,5 and 0 with Flight sticks for 60 bucks. stop going to amazon

>>181549864
ace combat zero?
dude i got it for five quid down at my local retro store

>>181549864
After ~5 minutes of looking I've seen 6 copies, each for less than 30 dollars on ebay, to say nothing of the really good deals you'd find after seriously searching.

>>181550074
>>181550452
yeah, I'm l9oking on ebay too, I'm just always paranoid about it though, like I'll get the wrong thing or it won't work. I know amazon has all the same risks as ebay, but for some reason I just feel like their returns/refunds are more reliable.

>>181551656
dude you can download the games from the mega along with all the bios

>>181551729
But to me there's always something special about having a physical copy, and actually being able to hold it.

>>181551872
i dont really mind too much, i had no clue they were for download here so i brought the trinity

>>181551729
emulation is not currently an option.

Are the ace combat games on Ps2 in 60fps?

>Ace of Aces mission
>Shoot down 100 aircraft, no checkpoints, waves of progressively more advanced fighters
Damnit. Well at least the Skyly unlocks without that, don't really care for the Sankas right now.

I'll admit though, that is a good Ace of Aces mission.

>>181552462
yes, except for the PAL versions which are 50 fps

QAAM missiles seem to do nothing differently from normal ones, am i missing something?

>enemy AI just slow down to stall speed and circle forever as you lock them

This is really aggravating. I doubt that's how you should react when someone gets a lock on you, but they do and it work. Does this happens in 6?
Because of this the fastest way to get rid of them is to bait them to pursue you and then joust them. And then it becomes way too easy.

I really don't want to joust forever in 7 either. It's really bullshit how the AI can't see it coming and react fast enough to evade missiles in their faces.
Then again in ACI multiplayer real peoples fell for it too, countless times..

I want the series to start forcing me to learn about proper maneuvers

>>181553838
which game?

>>181554141
Zero

>>181553838
They are more accurate, but it depends on the game. Apparenlty they are really good in 4, but I barely ever use them in any game so I can't really say.

Sometimes they will circle around and hit an enemy after missing them and other times they won't hit anything.

>>181553879
Can't speak for AC, but in WT people still fall for head ons, it's one of the easiest kills to make. So it's not just the stupid AI.

>>181554202
Give them to Pixy and let him use special weapons. They have slightly better homing than standard missiles, and turn him from a pretty good AI to a death robot

Is the Project Wingman guy a fucking wizard? How can one single guy produce something this good as a hobby?

>>181553879
it really only works in infinity multiplayer because of latency/lag. I've died to both head-on and non-head-on missiles with little or no warning at all. I've also gotten kills in just the same ways.

>>181509676
>maps accelerating and braking to the triggers instead of the traditional bumpers
This is good though

>>181554481
Time and effort.