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SEES Sunday Edition

NEWS
>Hashino thanks western piggus: http://personacentral.com/message-director-katsura-hashino-celebrating-western-release-persona-5/
>New game domains registered: http://personacentral.com/potential-persona-5-spin-off-website-domains-registered-including-p5d-p5u/
>English P5 DLC schedule: http://personacentral.com/persona-5-dlc-scheduled-announced-english-release/
>Next major event announced for August 2nd: http://personacentral.com/large-scale-persona-live-event-announced-august-2-2017/
>New Persona games to be announced 2017: http://personacentral.com/atlus-to-announce-several-games-in-2017-includes-the-persona-series/
>New Atlus studio "Studio 0" to create new RPG named Project Re Fantasy: http://personacentral.com/atlus-project-re-fantasy-concept-video-site-update/
>Persona 20th Anniversary radio CD announced: http://personacentral.com/persona-20th-anniversary-radio-cd-detailed/

INFO
>P5 Info
pastebin.com/MJuR9h0S

GUIDES
>General Guide
pastebin.com/eCHRjKCZ
>PQ Guide
pastebin.com/Bq16HvJh
>P4U2 Guide/Resources
pastebin.com/M3MPepKb

DOWNLOADS
>Art, Guides, Music, etc.
pastebin.com/Vh0CdRit
>P4 Dengeki Comic Anthology
mediafire.com/?4kjjaf0jtw2jyj3
>Persona Image Collection
mediafire.com/?9j3us2v34coua
>Persona 5 Resources
pastebin.com/CZEvEgiE
>Persona ISOs
mega.nz/#F!5iQAGTLB!U1LUUTLtawRdsWSDDFSAQQ

MANGA
>Scans
personascans.tumblr.com
mediafire.com/personascans#unst48ukbu457
pastebin.com/L3WXvsf3
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Makoto is only a considerable date option for beta males who aren't strong enough to handle a real relationship, and Makotofags will likely die young due to natural selection.

Be smart, keep her in the friendzone.
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Kawaclaimed.
Kawawriter reporting in.
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I love Ann!
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Claiming this beautiful, buxom, boisterous babe.
Best model.
Most compassionate.
I'm so proud of Ann. I love her.

FemJoker x Sadayo Ch. 3 over 50% complete. Getting good.
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Obligatory Makoto post
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She's mine /pg/
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robot is forever!!
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Best girl coming through.
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Can't wait for even more Makoto hating circlejerk!
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Asking again since fresh bread.

Starting NG+, first play only got me all the girls except Makoto and Haru as max confidants. Is it possible to max them all out (including the guys) or should I focus on the girls now since I got my stats from previous game?
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>Makoto x Joker
>Anne x Ryuji
>Futaba x Yusuke
>Haru x Goro

Daily reminder that this is the optimal pairing in P5
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>>181399264
You could've maxed them in NG. It's even easier now.
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Phantom is from Sumaru City!
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>>181398972
>Be smart, keep her in the friendzone.
Sorry I'm not gay
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H E E
O
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O
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Claiming this thread for Ryuji
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O
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Realistically, what kind of recognition will Kawakami get in the spinoffs?
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daily reminder >>181399178
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>went through the last thread in 3 hours

That's gotta be the fastest one in a while
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>>181399436
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>>181399303
I focused on the girls too much and ended up hanging out with them even though the bond is not growing deeper. Also I maxed out knowledge and charm and got other stats to level 4 but the charm one was too late and it's just not enough time for me I guess.
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>>181399436
Teacher dialog, optimistically speaking.
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>>181399218
Not for me but respect for sticking with your girl, anon.

>>181399264
Max links is easy, NG+ makes it laughable. From Fortune rank 1 you're able to use affinity reading; abuse it for maximum profit. Temperance 1 also gives you massage
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>>181399436
About as much as any of the side characters in P4 got in the P4 spinoffs.
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>>181399436
Realistically, little to none. Sorry dude.
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2ch persona 5 general shitposts

That BGM is doing too lazy for Mementos
>Let's sleep now.
Futabaaaaa
>You got tired with threads? Let's sleep now.
I want to become the first victim of homicide demons while I am leaning away from the camping group with Ms. Yoshida
>I want to be stepped on truly with Anne
I want to shout that I like Morgana at the late night festival
> would like to gaze at Mr. Kawakami in class during class.
>While acting as a teacher, I want to see while grinning as if I notice my sight and blush for a moment.
Love of a minor student and teacher is not an impure motive like Kamoshida, but it is legally a gray zone but once it seems safe
Well, it will probably be prohibited by the school regulations, so if it falls out, no matter how long it will be dropped out or dismissed
>Joker "Is there a decent teacher in this high school?"
The garbage in the attic is the player himself
>I finally cleared 4G
>I've been in love with Rise
>In 5 I went out with all the older w
I like P4GA, but characters other than Marie are deformed
One anon notes that even in the west there are layers to persona fans, and SMT fans.
"Even among foreigners, there are also old-school kitchers generated for each work
It represents the difference between megatten fans and persona fans"
he links this image Http://static.giantbomb.com/uploads/scale_super/0/4108/2485078-9198332047-13689.jpg

Some anon just posts a bunch of shidos and says only, "do whatever you like"
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>>181399436
;_;
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>>181399565
Did anybody translate that image for them?
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>>181399436
I'm so sorry kawakamifags
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>>181399634
>sorry
Don't be
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>>181399302
>optimal pairing
>with that many errors
Joker x Futaba
Ryuji x Shiho
Ann x Morgana
Yusuke x Hifumi
Makoto x Goro
Haru x Mishima
Sojiro x Sae

Apply yourself during your next ritual post!
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>>181399565
Holy shit those shidos
My sodes
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>>181399570

I know, anon. I know.
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>>181399565
Are you posting 4chan shitposts over there? Do the Ann is ____ one, or the Ryuj's hard dick one.
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>>181399565
>I've been in love with Rise
Even Japan knows who best girl is
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>>181399718
>Yusuke x Hifumi
>Haru x Mishima
They don't even talk to each other
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>>181399718
Ryuji x Shiho sounds pretty adorable desu
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>>181399634
I knew what I was getting into, but it's still a shame; P5 has some of the best side-characters
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>>181399718
>Joker x Futaba
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>>181399731
>tfw on /pg/ on big Saturday night instead out going out cruising for strange
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>>181399832
No it doesn't.
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>kamoshida palace
>fucking glowing spot that spawns an enemy when you get near it
This feels out of place when there's no other spot like it in the game
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>>181399872
dumb /tv/poster
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>>181399950
I don't remember this spot.
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>>181399832
Shiho is for Ann
She can't trust men anymore
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>>181399565
heh
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>>181399892
Im starting to miss the saturdays i spent time with the girl i love and some oher people.

Life can be a bitch sometimes.
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>Ann's dub ships Ann/Ryuji
Wew
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>>181399892
dumb frogposter
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>>181400043
How many times must you be told that their relationship is strictly platonic? Besides I'm sure Shiho would be in good hands with Ryuji.
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>>181399985
I encountered it on that area where you have to sneak past enemies using the covers of the boxes in an open space
It was tucked away in a corner where no one would go so it's pretty weird
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>>181399809
Japanese people are infamous of having shit taste I wouldn't be happy anon
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>>181399505
I tried to play blind for maximum enjoyment. Guess that's what I get for not following a guide. Though I enjoyed the game too so that's even.
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Futabu.
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>>181400164
Why is she not roughed up in this pic like she usually is
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>>181399974
Im sorry, this one is better for your exiquisite taste in images?
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>>181400164
>post cute pic of them together
>telling me it's strictly platonic
why are you doing this to me?
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>>181400312
yes
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>>181399565
Meow.
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hey /pg/ wanna see my ship hopping skills
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>>181400164
Shiho isn't close to Ryuji. She is to Ann. They love each other Annfag, does it really bother you that much that if Joker didn't hook up with her she found happiness with Shiho?
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>>181400374
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>>181399615
It doesn't look like it, I wonder how much english the average jap knows. The images should be obvious enough anyways.

More shitposts:
Can you bring Haru into a men's bathroom?
I'd like to see a reaction
>A urinal is funny!
People who like pop is like 4
People who like fashion love 5
>Japanese are accustomed to engrish made in Japanese by JPOP but if it is from overseas there will be a sense of incongruity in pronunciation
>Well it can not be helped because it is a Japanese game
If it seems to be perfectly JRPG for Japanese people it is amazing to sell it to foreigners
You can not sell it in the Japanese stage if you are not a persona ninja or a samurai must be put out
(Is this guy making fun of us?)
>I attempted to peep into pants from the gaps in the short bread of Caroline in front of the military shop, but it was impossible

now I want to check out the twins thread, maybe they have good art in there
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>>181399926
Yeah, it really does. I can see it.
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>>181400131
>Makoto's dub ships MakoRyuji
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>>181400508
I don't /u/ but Shiho/Ann is still better written than Joker/Ann's 'romance' desu
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>>181400508
It doesn't bother me I just don't think it would ever happen. Girls can be just friends despite what your autistic yurifag brain tells you.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDVpAvAHhoE&lc=z13jhfab5tmqdxsod04cibywzvnmfpabgow0k
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>>181400508
Ann is literally The Lover. She ended up with Joker. Ryuji and Shiho could work. She might heard about him after his outburts to Kamoshida after seeing her jump then asking Ann if she knows him to smwhich she told her that he might be dumb and brash but he's loyal to his friends (romance cliche) and then they could start dating with the guise of Shiho thanking him for what he did. Then they could go on a double date with Joker and Ann!

Reminder that Shiho was just sexually harassed. She's still pure (except maybe bj thing)
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where do I find the dankest purseowner memes
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>>181400131
>>181400609
Good thing they're only English VA's so their opinion is as valid as any post here and nothing more
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>>181400609
She doesn't, she said that she always laughed at his VA and would chose him to explore the metaverse with because of that
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>>181400609
>>181400131
how to be you Ryuji
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>>181400671
Shiho having feels for Anne doesn't seem that far-fetched desu. They could work it in in a convincing way.
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>>181400721
Here on /pg/
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>>181400721
>>>/v/
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>>181400710
>Ann is literally The Lover. She ended up with Joker.
Kek. You're so funny anon.

>Ryuji and Shiho could work
These two characters never interact at all. They probably know each other in name only, shipping them is literally autism.
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>>181400852
All shipping is autism.
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>>181400771
It only doesn't seem far-fetched because we see so little of Shiho that we can project nearly anything we want with no contradictions.

I'd still have a threesome with my little lady and Shiho to teach the poor girl how to love again.
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I can't wait for Persona 5 Akechi Goro of the Resurrection!
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>>181400852
>These two characters never interact at all
I'm not that anon but weren't they classmates in middle school?
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>>181400671
I'm not even a /u/ fag and I could see the two of them falling for each other.
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>>181400915
Ryuji and Anne were
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Nothing interesting in the twins thread, there don't seem to be a lot of fans, all I found was this gif. I'm gonna stop for now, I hope you enjoyed a look into the alternate /pg/

Just remember, things could be a lot worse. They share our memes, especially Desparate Sae.
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>>181400952
Oh ok then
I thought they knew Shiho since middle school
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>>181400915
No, that's Ryuji and Ann. Shiho isn't mentioned, and Ann may not have even met her until high school
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>>181400710
>Reminder that Shiho was just sexually harassed. She's still pure

She fucking raped you idiot. What do you think Kamoshida meant when he said he replaced Ann with Shiho. He wouldn't have done that if it was just sexual harassment
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>>181401016
>>181400915
They were, Ryuji mentions knowing her since middle school when you first go to question her about Kamoshida.
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>>181401061
>She fucking raped you, idiot

Oh, oh my
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>>181401051
>>181401068
who to believe
I hate when I don't know small details of this game
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>>181401061
Even the manga makes it more explicit she's raped. Nips may be discreet but Shiho being raped is about as obvious as fuck. It's not even a localization issue like alot of other shit in P5.
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>>181400957
Thanks for checking out their threads anon.
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>>181401140
Fuck. I'm so sorry
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>>181401165
Me because I'm on NG+ on Kamoshida's castle right now and this exchange just happened.
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>>181400957
good times, anon
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>>181400957
>They share our memes
Too bad /pg/ memes are garbage
well except for few
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>>181400957
>>181401468
>They share our memes
do the nips also post Yakuza memes there?
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>>181401468
Desperate Sae is one of the few good ones though imo
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>>181401346
Maybe only Ryuji knew Shiho back then
because in the manga they show high school shiho making fun of Ann's painting iirc
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>>181400957
What other memes?
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>>181401569
Ann and Shiho were friends since middle school.

Ann and Ryuji were classmates, but not really friends. He knew Shiho by her association with Ann.
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>>181401569
Well the manga is already wrong, Ann and Ryuji in game say Ann and Shiho have been friends since middle school.
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>>181401831
Can't wait for the Akirafags to be proven wrong.
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>>181401640
Makotofags plague 2ch as well, causing drama in the character threads.
Kawakamifags are positively obsessed and post things like "best girl" "sadayo is the best"
"Sae Nijima, Shibuya, Date Venue, Candidate Found!"
One anon complained about the morgana run away scene, how it makes Ryuji look dumb (this was a ryujifag posting this)
Alternate storylines where Kamoshida rapes mishima and he jumps off the building instead.

That's all I remember, I guess they're not really memes but similarities.
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>>181401948
Are Gorofags in there are worse than here?
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>>181401948
>Alternate storylines where Kamoshida rapes mishima and he jumps off the building instead.
2ch are literally us
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>>181401948
>>181402031
Of course everybody would rather that faggot Mishima get raped over a cute girl like Shiho.
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>>181401929
>>181401831
I don't really think the manga can be wrong, it's more of a different interpretation of what happened than a 1/1 remake. And stuff like changing how Shiho and Ann met makes it a little more interesting.
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>>181401948
>Alternate storylines where Kamoshida rapes mishima and he jumps off the building instead

Kek even in Japan Mishima gets treated like the beta janny that he is.
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>>181401640

Goro >>181385272
Tae pt. 1 >>181386034
Tae pt. 2 >>181386824
Tae pt. 3 >>181387858
Makoto >>181389285
Sae >>181390684
Sadayo >>181392047
Ryuji & Mishima >>181393330
Yusuke >>181394350
Hifumi >>181395512
Futaba >>181396801
Haru >>181398036
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This Church of Ann place doesn't seem so bad. See you guys, doubt I'll come back.
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>>181402287
Go with the Goddess, friend.
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Wait what
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>>181402347
he's talking about reddit

there's a church of X for every girl on there. or at least the popular ones.
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>>181402220
Thanks anon.
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>>181402445
Wow, that's a little sad lol. I love Ann, but just posting nonstop about her with other people who just post nonstop about her would get boring. There are already people here who love Ann and love you. No need to look for a circlejerk.
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I love Haru
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>>181402220
>>181402483

NP; also I forgot he did Ann first in the thread before that

>>181381707
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When do all the abilities from these key items activate?
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>>181402658
When you start their confidant

Note that they don't necessarily give all of their perks; check their description
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>>181402742
Thank you
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>>181402565
It's mostly just people posting shitty tumblr fan art like this
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>>181402830
No big loss. I am glad for whoever it is (you?) that posts quality art from tumblr. I don't use that site, I stick entirely to here and pixiv for my needs.
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>>181402934
There was another Annfriend who posted tumblr art like yesterday.
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Arc System Works please save Persona. Persona 5 was trash.
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>>181402445
>Church of Makoto: 2102 worshippers
>Church of Futaba: 1263 readers
>Church of Ann: 704 readers
>Church of Kawakami: 505 readers
>Church of Haru: 382 readers
>Church of Hifumi: 135 readers
>Church of Takemi: 103 readers
>Church of Sae: 84 readers
>Church of Yusuke: 59 readers
>Church of Joker: 49 readers
>Church of Chihaya: 18 readers
>Church of Ohya: 13 readers
>Church of Akechi: 7 readers
>Church of Ryuji: Private

If you're waifu has more than 500 subscribers you have pleb tier taste desu
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>>181403065
>private
Nani?
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>>181403065
I have no shame about being a plen
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>>181402934
No, I avoid tumblr. I'm not digging through trash like the picture I just posted for the occasional piece that looks somewhat decent. I was just pulling that picture from the Ann reddit to show you how shitty it is. Everything I save is from Pixiv, Twitter, and here.
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>>181403065
Damn, so Makoto really is the most popular character in the mainstream. I can't complain anyways, I'm a Hifumifag. One wrong step and I could have loved Makoto instead.
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>>181403065
How come Church of Makoto has worshipers but every other Church has readers?
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So is there literally any reason at all to play NG+ in P5 other than to fuse Satanael?

I already did all S. Links, and I don't care about getting the trophies for reading all books or finishing all tv games.
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>>181403295
Twins fight?
That's about it
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>>181402287
Does that mean you're necking yourself?
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>>181403276
I honestly don't care about her popularity
I think it's a curse
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>>181403065
>Church of Ohya has no posts
Damn it, I was hoping for maybe some new art or something.
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>>181403478
hey Jake do something
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Who is the contrarians choice in P5? Chihaya?
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>>181403553
Ohya
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>>181403553
Ryuji apparently
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>>181403553
Ohya or Chi-hahawhatashitlink

The true patricians choice however is Lala.
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>villian spouts out good argument and reasoning
>"n-no you're wrong, we'll beat you with d-determination"
I hate this
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>>181403553
Makoto
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>>181403631
Shut up Adachi.
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>>181403553
There is no contrarian choices, every girl has nice aspects that someone could like her for.
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>>181403587
can confirm
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>>181403637
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What do you think are the most glaring writing issues in P5?
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>>181403553
All I know is that Ann is the patrician's choice.
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>>181403776
Characters are inconsistent with their SL but that's not just a p5 thing
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>>181403784
No, the patrician's choice is appreciating whichever one appeals to you the most without pretending anyone else's taste is any less valid.
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Shiho deserves better
Shiho will always be number one in my eyes!
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Kawawriter going to bed for the night, but if anyone has an idea/request, respond to this post, I'll check it tomorrow
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>>181403631
What good argument? Humans like being told what to do so I will kill them all?
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>>181403897
This is for you.
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>>181403776
the scanlator-quality translation

they've got whole teams of localizers working on the thing and the script reads like something three chumps working in a basement could do for free
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>>181403893
I'm seriously starting to wonder if Ryuji's Confidant contrasts so much with his main story personality because wanting fame really warped him that much. We've to consider after all that he feels responsible for the Track Team's fate in a way that wouldn't have him wanting to seek glory and he makes peace with himself by going on a different path after recognizing he had wanted a place to belong.
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>>181403910
USED GOOD ATTENTION SEEKING SLUT
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>>181400356
Do you feel better now?
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>>181404059
Didn't someone say that the PT's dialogue quirks were basically not translated well save for maybe Futaba? But yeah, there's that and also the whole issue with how Goro's doings with the mental shutdowns are told.
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>>181404196
Yes, thank you
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>>181404196
Why do I get the feeling that Kamoshida is cropped out of this picture?
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>>181404063
ryuji has an intensely strong sense of right and wrong but he's also a tactless dipshit with serious self-esteem issues

he gets so wrapped up in finally being able to stick his dick in society's eye that he conflates it with his own sense of self-worth, which leads to the okumura debacle

and he knows it too, which is why he absolutely loses his shit when he realizes how badly he'd been conned
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>>181404319
If I had to guess it's from a Joker harem doujin. They look too happy for Kamoshida.

Why the fuck do I have to make a comment like this instead of there being actual good doujins for Ann and the rest of the girls in general.
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>>181404421
Because Japan is in desperate need of a third nuke
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>>181404220
it goes beyond just dialogue quirks, the writing is incredibly stiff throughout and nosedives into borderline gibberish in key points, mainly the opening few hours and the initial encounter with shadow kaneshiro

it repeatedly uses stock phrases like "it's rare for [x]" without regard for character voice, uses stodgy translations for otherwise simple concepts (which is where all the "aesthetics" bullshit came from), and generally sounds like what a particularly tight-assed grammar teacher thinks people should sound like

by all accounts it's because of atlus japan interfering with things, so a bunch of neurotic old japanese men stomped all over the localizers' job because they thought they knew better
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>>181404319
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>>181404562
Ok delete this please
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>>181404373
I agree, especially since Ryuji says in the main story around the time of Shido's Palace that he used to think being someone who helps from the shadows is boring but now he doesn't mind or something like that. His Confidant therefore seems different not because he's an entirely different person, it's more that he feels the consequences of his actions personally there even if it wasn't entirely wrong so he's able to maintain perspective much more than when he's all for being admired.

> By all accounts it's because of atlus japan interfering with things, so a bunch of neurotic old japanese men stomped all over the localizers' job because they thought they knew better
Wait, what? And yeah, the difference between P3 and P4's localization versus P5 is really glaring.
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>>181404562
I fucking knew it
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>>181404562
DON'T SLAP HER REEEEEEEEEE!!
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>>181403553
Mika
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I have seen the light.
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>>181404857
I love Mika, she worked hard to be where she is. Ann is just coasting by on being 'exotic'
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>>181404483
>>181404562
I can't even understand this. Is Japan a nation of cuckolds or misogynists or something? Were previous games heavily biased towards rape stories when they were first released? Maybe I'm just overreacting because I love Ann, but this makes me just as sad for all the other people looking for loving sex with their favorite girl.

>>181404695
Cute teeth. She looks like a nibbler.
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>>181404943
Have you accepted Makoto in your life?
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>>181404943
Have you?
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>>181404989
No but I just read a fic now where madarame rapes yusuke in his sleep.
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>>181404975
Japan just has a better understanding of what women are really like in their dead souls
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What do you like and not like with the way the individual PTs are written, as in their character?
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>>181405036
I didn't need to know that
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>>181405062
Now that's not accurate. Even where we have stuff like 50 Shades being mainstream here, there isn't this emphasis on mindless degradation of the woman. An act of submission to someone you trust is an act of love.
No wonder Japanese are having trouble dealing with women. Not only do you have men rejecting dating altogether, you have porn that primarily features women being turned into gutter trash by evil men and monsters. Not surprising that their women have turned heartless too. Sad.
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What would happen if Noncanon-chan and Joker met? How many times would they meet each other before fucking their brains out?
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>>181405332
>An act of submission to someone you trust is an act of love.

Then why do women submit their bodies to every alpha male that comes there way?
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>>181405036
gimme a review
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>>181404975
Shiho deserves better dah here, thank you and I agree on everything you said. Everyone deserves some tender loving
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>>181405380
It's pretty hard to encounter something that doesn't exist
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>realize he's named Igor because the other fusion master in the No ICBMs timeline is Victor
>realize most of the attendants have Frankenstein reference names
>and Mary from SH

Fug
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>>181404975
It took years before Rise got a vanilla doujin. I imagine we're in for a similar wait.
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>>181405538
The Phantom Thieves managed somehow after Mementos joined the real world
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>>181405389
They don't, if society is functioning properly. They stay together with family and friends until they enter into a marriage with a man they love and trust. Women function great in a social support network because they can not only be protected from outright violent or degenerate men, but they can also check the background of a questionable man by looking more objectively than a woman who already loves him. People are too lonesome these days to function properly in society.

>>181405530
Good for you. Stay positive.

>>181405584
Fug. Gotta keep up the good fight with happy writing and other western fanworks then.
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>>181405648
The Phantom Thieves always existed though, it's just that people chose not to acknowledge them at the time. Noncanon-chan never had to chance from the start
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>>181405380
I mean, she would be a cake by now if she was canon.
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>>181406308
She would be a door right now if she was canon.
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So is it worth playing Persona 1 and 2?
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>>181405747
>People are too lonesome these days to function properly in society.

And that is why we're here.
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>>181406470
yes
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>>181405747
So women are dumb animals that will fuck anyone attractive enough unless society reins them in?
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if your waifu is not shown here then she is safe
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>>181406547
Who is the one on the right? Chihaya?
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>Kaneshiro's Bank on NG+
>Makoto is with us, but hasn't awakened yet
>Use R2 Dash
>She's keeping up with us
... How?
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>>181406631
aikido
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>>181406529
No, in general people are dumb, and they function better in society where they can have family and friends to cover their blind spots. For every woman that chooses a supposed alpha male that just brutalizes and abandons them, you'll probably find a guy somewhere who really needs to hear from his friends, "Bro, just because she gets your dick hard and has a tight pussy, that doesn't mean she's wife material. She's fucked 20 other guys, has multiple kids, can't take care of the house, or really do anything besides be a good lay."

>>181406474
Not really. Even this is a community of people with like-minded interests who care about each other. I love all of you.
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>>181406631
She cognitizes that she can keep up so she does. Trust me, I'm an expert
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Wtf I hate annfag now
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I love Ann.
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Great day, and now a great tomorrow. But first, a great night with my great wife.
Night Personababs.

>>181407038
Aw. I still love you.
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>>181405380
As soon as she lays eyes on Joker, she'll probably tackle him and whip out his phantom dick
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>>181407890
Nyett, whores go to gallows
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It's dead
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Can you get Victory Cry from Network Fusion or is Satanael the ONLY way?
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>>181408360
i don't know
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>Anne is sweaty!
>Anne is buxom!
>Anne is beautiful!
>Anne is happy!
>Anne is wet!
>Anne is cute!
>Anne is flexible!
>Anne is an angel!
>Anne is lewd!
>Anne is sad!
>Anne is silly!
>Anne is for kisses!
>Anne is stylish!
>Anne is for sexual!
>Anne is awesome!
>Anne is sultry!
>Anne is pure!
>Anne is amused!
>Anne is quality!
>Anne is Lovers!
>Anne is canon!
>Anne is an apricot!
>Anne is an actress!
>Anne is a model!
>Anne is Santa Claus!
>Anne is Anne, not Ann!
>Anne is best girl!
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Why can't you use Skill Cards on your team?
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I want to kill myself

I wish I knew how
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>>181408841
Why do you want to kill yourself?
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>>181408863
I'm lazy and worthless
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>>181408841
Same
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>>181408779
>Whole team with Null Phys
>Charge on Yusuke and Haru
>Concentrate on Morgana and Makoto
It WOULD be nice...
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>>181408923
Live for your waifu
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>>181408841
We love Mothman and we love you too.
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>>181408994
All I want is Makoto to learn Amrita Shower.
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>>181408923
>>181408841
Are you that Annfag
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>>181408602
is there anything Anne isn't?
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>>181409183
Anything bad.
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>>181409183
Real
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If fuukafag doesn't post tomorrow I'm going to be worried
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>>181409286
That's for the best. She wouldn't like me if she was real.
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>>181409367
I think I saw him on /v/ a little while ago. When did he last post here?
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>>181409436
Like 3 days ago.
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>>181409367
>>181409539
He was bullied to death
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>>181410453
One of those options you know everybody took
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Why don't any of the games post 2 tie in more strongly to the Nyarlathotep / Philemon storyline.

I was convinced that Fake Igor was going to be revealed to be Nyarlathotep but instead he was a cup
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SO
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>>181410767
MEBODY ONCE TOLD ME
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Are the Persona 3 movies worth watching?
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>>181408779
>God's Hand and Charge on Makoto
>She does more damage than Ryuji, because her BS +10 all stats gun gives her higher Str
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Have you ever seen a cat dick? It is REALLY tiny. I feel bad for Morgana.
It also has barbs.
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>>181411152
Morgana should have been a duck
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>>181400131
>>181400609
Source?
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>>181411278
it was live on twitch yesterday at their animeexpo panel
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>>181404524
>by all accounts it's because of atlus japan interfering with things, so a bunch of neurotic old japanese men stomped all over the localizers' job because they thought they knew better

Yeah, but God forbid you tell any subfags that their precious nips stuck their dicks in the localization process, they might have to admit that "Hey, maybe the localization team might've done a better job if the nip overlords didn't literally force them to pronounce Ryuji and Ann's names differently."
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>>181411076
Only the first and last ones. Get the soundtracks though, they have some great remixes.
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>>181405136
I dislike how Ryuji was constantly portrayed as the incompetent idiot. Just once, I would've preferred if he made an idea that was so obvious that nobody else would've thought of it.
For instance, if it was RYUJI'S idea to hack the phone to activate the Metaverse Navigator app by tricking the phone into thinking the button was pressed, because Futaba was too busy trying to directly hack into the app itself.
You know, the "that's so stupid, it just might work."

It's a problem in big casts that only a few people really have defined roles.
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>>181405380
It ends in sex.
Either she meets shouts Joker, and she pounces, or Joker meets Older Woman Door-tan, and he chases that ass like he's Wile E. Coyote and she's the Road Runner.
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>>181411905
this desu
both of them are relentless romantics that are more than happy to chase after sex with whoever they want. especially door- "harem queen" tan
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>>181405554
>most
In the Hashino games, they ALL are Frankenstein references.

>>181406470
PSP Innocent Sin, easily. Persona 1, MAYBE. I've beaten Soul Hackers since giving up on P1, so maybe I'll give it another try.
Eternal Punishment? I'm sorry, but I think using the original English names may be too much for me.
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>>181408360
Satanael can pass it down, but as you can imagine, nobody's throwing in a Persona with Victory Cry to Public Execution.
So you're not gonna get it.
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>>181410664
Which did a greater percentage of people take, I wonder.
Button-mashing Morgana, or punching Philemon in his smug fucking face?
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Have you heard of that jack o mantern trick in kampshida's palace? It is quite broken
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Why do you guys always rip on Makotofags? They're honestly right.
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>>181411816
Honestly, this is true. Once Futaba and her hacking skills were introduced, only Makoto was really allowed to contribute, and that's only because she was the self-appointed strategist that everyone deferred to for the decision making, unanimity or no.

It reminded me of DeSu2 where whenever the characters were stuck, Fumi would appear and they'd either listen to her explain something or ask her for help because she was also the genius hacker character. I can just feel the writers relying on this one character for the exposition and the actions needed to save everyone else's ass rather than bouncing ideas off each other to make the group seem like a cohesive force together.
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>>181412572
t. Fuukafag
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>>181412602
I mean, for some characters it makes sense, at least narrative-wise.
Morgana really DIDNT know much about the Metaverse, and by the time Yusuke joins, the team basically knows everything he does, which ended up coming to a head with that bullshit "Morgana leaves" arc.
But outside how they relate to the main character, or gameplay wise, I feel like Atlus really needed to ask "What does this character bring to the team?"

Futaba and Makoto, love them or hate them, have clear and distinct roles. Morgana HAD one, but the fact that he lost that role was a plot point. You can probably keep either Ryuji or Ann as the "idiot who needs things explained to them for the sake of the audience", but they're both interchangable in that role.

Save the fact that you as a player may like them, what do the others add to the team?
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>>181412572
Because there's so many Makotofags that you can shitpost for hours, an EVENTUALLY someone will get mad, and that will be enough to decry all Makotofags as being thin-skinned, no matter how many people ignored the previous shitpost.
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I can't afford P5 so can someone just spoil the plot for me?
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>>181411351
I'm watching a half hour YouTube video of it, do you know when it was?
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>>181413523
Kawakami best girl. That's all you need to know.
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>>181413523
Adults effing SUCK xD
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>>181413523
Beat up the shit adults, Goro is the traitor.
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>>181413571
Depends on who you ask. Personally? I think the guy's a fucking cunt.
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>>181413571
Gay sex meme aside, he is okay. I like him
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>>181413571
>asking this in Persona Goro
Of course we love him.
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Hello
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>>181414681
Bye-bye.
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Could Joker defeat Demi-Fiend 1v1?
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Happy Sae Sunday!

Say something nice to this prosecutie!
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>>181415175
better to be a prosecutie than a prostetutie
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Sae was really mean to Makoto though, what a bitch!
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>>181414814
No
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>>181414814
Yes
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>>181414814
Maybe
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>>181414814
No, but Tatsuya could.
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>>181414814
No, and neither could anyone in the Persona franchise, save the Velvet Room Attendants, who can do the same "bored now, fight's over" shit he did in Digital Devil Saga.
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>>181414814
I doubt Demi-fiend can block Gun/Psy/Nuke, so Joker may have a chance if Freikugel doesn't OHKO him.
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>>181415669
So what, you're thinking a Gun Build Satanael?
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>>181415669
Personas can't compare to actual demons. Joker can't summon any of them out the Metaverse anyway so he'd be immediately fucked
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>>181415853
For the sake of argument, you have to assume Joker has his full powers, otherwise it's the motherfucking Demi-Fiend against a teenager with a model gun and a toy knife.
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>>181415714
... Actually, that could work. Firm Stance/Divine Pillar/Regenerate 3 to stay alive, then Riot Gun with boosters for damage. Of course, if Demi has his BS 12k Almighty Gaea Rage, this doesn't work.
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Can someone explain to me what the appeal of power level arguments is? It's fucking stupid, particularly with characters from different universes with no common frame of reference.
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>>181414814
No, but I can.
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>>181415930
Replace Riot Gun with One Shot Kill, and give him Snipe and Cripple, and you'd have my plan. Remember, Joker One-More gets an extra action for crits, whereas Turn Press loses a turn for resistances, if memory serves. It's a one in a million chance, and the Demi-fiend could get bored and kill him quickly, but Joker may be able to pull it off.
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>>181416003
For starters, power levels is really a poor choice of words, since barely anybody thinks that Joker isn't a massive underdog in this fight.
As for the appeal? Well, notice nobody's really getting heated over it, just general back and forth on ideas? That's the appeal. It's when fuck heads get mad and start going for personal attacks that it gets out of hand.
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Velvet Room Attendants > P3MC > Tatsuya = Maya > P2 Casts = Shadow Ops > Sho + Labrys > P5 Cast > P4 Cast
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>>181416327
>Sho above anyone else
Get back in the garage you little shit.
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>>181413018
>I feel like Atlus really needed to ask "What does this character bring to the team?"
>Save the fact that you as a player may like them, what do the others add to the team?
Why do you need more than this? Why do people obsess over some sort of story relevance? It doesn't make a character better.
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>>181413018
Yes, and I agree. Atlus did need to step back and ask what each character brought to the group. It's never been so apparent as P5, despite their writers having issues keeping the party members involved all the way through in P3 and P4.

Futaba and Makoto did have defined roles in the group, but they are still leaned on much too heavily to the point where the rest of the group are just extra sets of hands who aren't interchangeable solely because they are Persona users as well.

The other post had a point. Why didn't Ryuji say the obvious (to him) solution, only to have it worked into a more feasible plan through Futaba and Makoto? Why is Yusuke's greatest contribution the logo? Why does Haru only use her connections to take the group to Destinyland and rent a car in the end?

After a certain point these characters don't advance a step in the group's strategies and gambles at all. And there's a difference between a character making or breaking a plan's success (like Sae) and a character who is carrying the rest every step of the way.
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>>181416526
hehe more like makoto piijima
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>>181416456
Who's talking story relevance? Let me put it another way, "Is this character doing anything in scenes with the main team besides saying an occasional line to remind you they're in the game?"
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>>181416628
I mean, as long as the character is entertaining/likable in those scenes with those lines, then there isn't a problem.
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How does Tatsuya's superhuman shit in the real world work anyway? He deflects machine gun fire with his sword, for fuck's sake.
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>>181408841
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>>181416456
It's better than just having them tag along and do nothing.
Yusuke and Haru are both just filler characters that don't really contribute to anything and only bloat the numbers. You could've cut Madarame's arc and the only thing that changes is that you are now stuck with Ryuji's logo.
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>>181416575
To be fair to Yusuke, I think he was the only one who noticed that the Phantom Thieves rise in popularity was unnatural, something I don't think even Makoto (who was basically the Team Smart Person) noticed, but that's about it.
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would you play persona if it doesn't have waifus?
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>>181416684
Magic. Philemon. Cutscenes.
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>>181416719
Fucking yes
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>>181416703
You could cut the Madarame arc, true. Except the game would be worse for it because Yusuke is a fun character.

>>181416719
Sure.
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>>181416740
maybe there's hope after all
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>>181416671
I'm not saying they should be cut entirely. Fuck knows we've got people who like the side characters more than some of the main characters. I'm just saying that, with a large cast like this, you run the risk of characters who are basically just "along for the ride".
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>>181416783
>Except the game would be worse for it because Yusuke is a fun character.
then make him a confidant-only character
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>>181416719
Well sure but there has to be something else that's pretty good to make up for it.
I'm not here to play SMT games.
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>>181416719
I probably wouldn't play it AS MUCH, but yeah (four playthrough of P5, for fuck's sake), but yeah, I'd still play the series.
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>>181416804
And I'm just trying to say that that is fine. There's nothing wrong with it as long as they have a personal motivation to be there (even if it's nothing more than attachment to the other characters and/or a desire to see the end)

>>181416820
Nah. That's a terrible idea. He's better with the whole team. You'd miss all his little chats.
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>>181403776
The ruse makes no sense and all of the villains are lame.
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>>181416890
Yeah, cutting Yusuke from the main team is a prepawsterous idea. You'd miss out on all his good admice.
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>>181416719
I already play real Shujin Megaman Trashy games.
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>>181417048
>The ruse makes no sense
Someone didn't talk to Futaba
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>>181417091
without the destroying the world part
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>>181417080
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>>181414814
Hahahahah
AHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAH
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>>181403776
The Akechi and Shido infodump where they reveal their super duper evil master plan. It was incredibly lazy exposition.
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>>181417280
Hashino probably expected P5 players to be your average dumb nihonjin
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>>181416703
To be fair, once Makoto joins, Ann, Ryuji and Yusuke are just there, and that's not even Makoto's fault, they just start going with the flow for whatever reason.
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>>181417280
That's really the only scene I would legitimately call poor writing, and not because of its contents but just because of how it was worded. "Ah yes, let me explain to you what we just did, my co-conspirator who knows exactly what he just did because he just did it, just in case an audience may happen to be listening."
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>>181416719
Yup. If P6 didn't have any girls I wouldn't mind at all.
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Let's settle this once and for all.

http://www.strawpoll.me/13337098
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>>181417280
>P5velvet takes this scene out and replaces it with shido sucking Groo's cock instead
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>>181417660
I read that they were originally planning to include several explicit homosexual penetration scenes in P5 but they had to be cut due to the ratings board not being ok with it.
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Why are the best tracks always unused?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iu6D5W3FVcQ
>that part in 0:45, which is literally what he plays with Tatsuya and Jun if you choose the three of them in demon negotiation
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>>181417652
I don't know what Geneforge is, but that is the only good answer
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>>181417704
Geneforge is hella fun man, you should play it
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>>181417120
I did, those parts make sense. But how did Goro bring in cops from the real world if he was with the PT? When he killed Joker, why did he not account for the fact that, unless if your name is Akihiko, you're not committing suicide from that angle? How did Sae get Joker out of the building unnoticed?
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>>181417680
I heard the true canon end of P5 was supposed to be a huge orgy with everyone in the PT and the confidants, but Atlus chickened out and cut it for time and content.
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>>181417494
Would it have been better if it was presented as Shido's or Akechi's inner monologue?
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>>181417805
Couldn't they have just presented it in a series of flashbacks as the events unfolded or something, similar to how the PT's plan was revealed?
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Evoker>Posing>Putting a mask on>yelling out like a retard(artificial personas)>shit>card crushing
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>>181417728
>But how did Goro bring in cops from the real world if he was with the PT?
Leave a phone with the Metanav with the police?
>When he killed Joker, why did he not account for the fact that, unless if your name is Akihiko, you're not committing suicide from that angle?
>How did Sae get Joker out of the building unnoticed?
Because, and this one gets answered all the time, NO ONE WAS GOING TO CHECK. The entire point of the scene is that everyone in the police station was crooked and being paid off. The morticians were not going to inspect the body. And even if they did, they weren't going to speak up because that would be career (and possibly literal) suicide. Same for all the guards. No one was going to double check anything because they were paid specifically to not ask questions.
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>>181417805
>>181417858
Both of those would have been better options, yeah.
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>>181417728
>But how did Goro bring in cops from the real world if he was with the PT?

Those were cognitive duplicates of cops, not the real deal.

>When he killed Joker, why did he not account for the fact that, unless if your name is Akihiko, you're not committing suicide from that angle?

The conspiracy wasn't going to let the body get examined closely. All they needed was a picture with Joker dead and his fingerprints on the gun.

>How did Sae get Joker out of the building unnoticed?

She pulled rank.
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>>181417858
Or you could do what they intended and just put on your grasses
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>>181417872
Your opinion is wrong and I hate you.
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>>181417872
P3fag detected. Shooting to kill.
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>>181417886
>Giving them a phone with the nav
Which he got.... Where?

>Sae and Joker
No one was going to check the interrogation room, sure. But she's walking through the entire police station with him.
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>>181417684
That's actually really good, what the hell.

>>with Tatsuya
I never got that contact.
Kill me.
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>>181418005
>Cognitive duplicates
Then how did Joker end up in police custody? Because regardless, real people need to transfer him to the real police station, or else the entire Russ doesn't work.

>She pulled rank
Weren't people not letting her go talk to him at all? Wouldn't they be a bit resistant to her taking him out of the fucking building?
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>>181418082
if anything i'm more of a P2 fag, evokers are just the best.
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>>181418207
He was supposed to be dead, and anyway the guard she had already sent away into hiding so who was gonna stop her?
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>>181418221
I always thought the whole evoker concept was kind of needlessly edgy. I didn't hate it, but I wouldn't say it was the best.

I actually liked card crushing best.
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>>181418123
>Which he got.... Where?
This bit I'm not 100% sure of. I mean, what if you have more than 1 phone? Do all your phones get the nav? Or he may have let them in early and they didn't show up until the end.

>No one was going to check the interrogation room, sure. But she's walking through the entire police station with him.
She already shooed the guard away and I wouldn't be surprised if there were purposely few other guards in the entire station, just to keep as few people in the know as possible. Otherwise as someone else said, she would just pull rank. "I've got orders to take this kid out of here and do you want me to have to call this in?"

The great thing about dealing with so many corrupt people is they really don't want to have to deal with anything.

Also >>181418256
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>>181417872
>Putting a mask on
They're not. They're touching the masks and those are turning into their Personas. Because Personas are your superficial mask you utilize to get through life.
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>>181418293
It's not about the evoker itself, it's about facing your fear and accepting death to summon your persona, it is boosted by the plume of dusk in the evoker but the thought process is what matters,
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>>181418221
Honestly, if P3 came out today I could see people screaming "These Atlus hacks are just pandering to stupid edgy teens!"
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>>181417872
>card crushing
I don't like it as a way of summoning your persona, but I really liked the animations.
Does that make sense?
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>>181418315
I was disappointed that Joker's mask didn't actually visibly change when you changed personas. Wouldn't have been so hard for them to do that, or at the very least masks for each arcana maybe with minor pallete swaps for each persona within it.
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>>181418256
I dunno, anyone in the entire police station?

>>181418307
And you're not wrong about them purposefully understaffing, but there were at least three people not wanting Sae to go near Joker. You're telling me that at least one didn't call up the SIU director?
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>>181418207
>Then how did Joker end up in police custody?

Joker was knocked out, his phone was used to shunt him back to the real world, then the SIU team that was called in on an "anonymous" tip picks him up and hauls him to the station.

>Wouldn't they be a bit resistant to her taking him out of the fucking building?

She didn't have to say she was taking Joker's corpse. All she needed to say was that she was taking a body to the morgue, then get to her car when no one was looking.
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>>181418418
Sure it does, i liked the animations as well, i meant the concept rather than animation.
Hell, Yosuke doing a sick flip or Naoto literally shooting the card are some of my favorite animations, but the sole concept of detroying a card is meh.
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>>181418418
Yeah. The animations really were better than in other methods.
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>>181418438
As far as they knew Goro had already gone to put a bullet in his head, she'd just find his corpse after he suicided. No reason to stop her from going in at that point. Those guys probably wanted to get the hell out of there as soon as the job was done anyway.
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Personafags BTFO
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>>181418438
>but there were at least three people not wanting Sae to go near Joker. You're telling me that at least one didn't call up the SIU director?
Those people left after telling Sae she only had a short while with Joker. The only one in the immediate area was the guard and Sae rightly pointed out he was in deep shit, so he wasn't coming back. Everyone else was likely keeping their head down because a hit? In our police station? Well, it was certainly someone's fault but it's not mine because I was busy being anywhere else.
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>>181418513
>BTFO
this isn't going to trigger anyone who spent more than 1 day on 4chan
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>>181418176
https://youtu.be/kOJoJeU41wQ?t=27s
Embrace what you missed.
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>>181415853
But you fought tons of demons in the Metaverse.
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>>181418513
You fool, Irish Joker. You never learned the real lesson: friendship is hard, but in the end, it's worth fighting for.
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>>181418580
Demons in Persona games are still just shadows and aren't "True" demons. Ask Nameless.
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>>181417356
Yes, that's why I try to be careful of how I word these arguments when I criticize the story.

Makoto as a character is inoffensive and does have some strengths that she can bring to the team. However, the writing surrounding her plays up these talents beyond what they really are, which is just someone in the group being levelheaded and sensible into her being a brilliant strategist that the team needs to lead. Before she joined, the group plotted together, took risks, and all played a part in progressing their heists. But afterward the writing makes them less competent and confident than before, especially Morgana, to show how well she leads them throughout the entire Kaneshiro palace. She was already a useful addition without the rest of them being dumbed down, and that's what I took issue with through that arc.

Especially because right after, they go back to the normal dynamic when investigating Alibaba, and Makoto knows no more about hacking than they do despite showing off bits of knowledge like the cylinder lock and somehow figuring how the calling card affected the target.
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>>181418293
At least the evokers matched the theme of the game. What the fuck does card crushing have to do with discovering the truth?
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>>181418457
But your phone can't be used to send you back. You need to leave the Metaverse the same way you get in, which is how the whole fucking ruse worked.

And when the fuck did Sae ever say that she's putting you in a body bag to go to the morgue?
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>>181418293
>>181418382
Evokers are pretty edgy, but I still think they look cool. I thought the animation combined with the gunshot sound made it feel really satisfying.
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>>181418552
So the entire police station was empty except for a single guard who Sae made leave?
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>>181415853
Could Tatsuya do it then? He can summon his persona in the real world, after all.
Probably not though, since it's just tatsuya and his persona against demi-fiend and 3 demons.
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Was it meant to be implied that Joker and the PTs got killed after the epilogue of P5?
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>>181418770
Cute butt! I believe she'll sell very well!
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>>181418736
Probably not entirely empty, but just take a less populated route, and if anyone says anything just scream "I'm doing exactly what I was told to do, and I suggest you do the same." Nobody wanted anything to do with anything. They were paid to keep quiet and, as far as everyone knew, Joker was already dead. And I'm going to guess most of the people didn't even know what he looked like because it's on a need to know basis thing.
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>>181418770
Lovers girls have and will always save their chastity for the protagonist. It's up to him whether or not to hit it, but regardless it's there got them.
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>>181418758
>Could Tatsuya do it then? He can summon his persona in the real world, after all.
Philemon was backing people up at that time.

>>181418848
No, just you. You died at the end of P5 and this is your Limbo.
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>>181418852
I suppose so.

I still can't believe the shit with how they actually captured him, though.
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>>181418579
>missed Tatsuya rocking the fuck out
aaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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>"Sex stories? I dated this guy... for a while, and he was really a nasty freak. He just loved to get down with sex all the time. He was like, any time of day, he was like,"Yeah, let's go! I'm so nasty." And he'd be nailing me and he'd be like, "Oh, I'm nailing you. Cool." He loved to dirty-talk. Totally into it. He'd be like, "Yeah, let's screw, let's... I wanna fuck." God, it was so dirty. He'd be like, "Me so horny, me love you long time." I've been with tons of men. I've borked a lot of guys in my day! So... you know..."
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>>181418927
Blame it on the anime cutscenes being made before the Metaverse mechanics were fully hammered out. You'll have to assume that either what was shown on screen wasn't how it exactly played out or the PTs had Joker exit the Metaverse into the police ambush on purpose.
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Just want to confirm:
The Christmas Eve gift GUARANTEES a rank up every time you hang out with that confidant, as long as you have a Persona of the matching arcana? I've had Cybele (Priestess) with me since taking Kaneshiro's treasure, but I still had to spend time on a non-rank-up event with Makoto after rank 3. Maybe this is my punishment for picking "So what if we were together?" and "Beep boop", but teasing her is too much fun.
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>>181418990
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I'm on the 3rd dungeon and Ryuji hasn't messaged me about that guys drinking schedule. he did once and I blew him off to hang out with Sadayo and he hasn't messaged me again. What do I do?
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>>181419146
Finish the dungeon.
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>>181418990
I want to make Sae a woman.
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>>181419146
I blew him off like 3-4 times before I finally accepted due to having other shit to do those nights, I think you get plenty of opportunities
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>>181419283
Buried under all the BL and Yaoi doujins.

Best woman, best cake, best wife.

Add more dates to P5!
Teaching Sadayo how to make infiltration tools, coffe and curry!
See Sadayo go pray at the shrine for Joker!
See Sadayo cry when she finds out I turned myself in.
Go on a hot springs date with Sadayo where she washes my back and I wash her hair then we get in a mixed bath together!
Go on a formal date with Sadayo where she wears a fancy dress and gets all dolled up just for you!
Joker moves back to Tokyo after finishing high school and is living together with Sadayo!
Eating Traditional Japanese breakfast with Sadayo!
Ask Sadayo for lap pillows!
Go fishing with Sadayo on Sundays and catch the Guardian together!
Visiting Sadayo at her place!
Going home together with Sadayo!
Sadayo visiting Joker's family!
Joker visiting Sadayo's family!
Joker proposing in front of all his friends!
Traditional wedding "Happily Ever After" timeskip event!
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>>181411152
seriously though, it has barbs to stick in the lady cat's lady bits as she will almost instantly try to shake off the male cat
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Eff! How do you evolve all of the IT's Personas between the Heaven dungeon and the Magatsu dungeon?
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>>181419462
Ryuji is in for a treat then, huh?
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>>181419535
Spend time with them until rank 10?
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>>181419648
But they only show up on Sundays!
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>>181419672
Then you're doing something wrong.
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>>181416783
Madarame's arc introduces a number of important points about how the Metaverse works, which are necessary for the ruse later on. That being said, the writers could have moved those things to other arcs if they were desperate to cut out one Palace.

>>181416710
I remember him even saying something to the effect of 'I fucking called it' after Okumura's death.

>>181417356
Ann still has her moments where her bad acting helps out. She's also the one to reach out to Futaba when Makoto is unable too, and she's the first one to convince the PT to save Joker from juvie after he turns himself in.
Ryuji spurs the team on (which, as noted, leads to the problems of the Okumura arc), plus his athleticism was necessary to save the PT from Shido's cruiser sinking.
Yusuke has his moments of insight (especially prior to taking Okumura's heart).
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>>181419748
It's got to be this stupid fog.
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>no scene where the PT finds alcohol in the casino
>No scene where drunk, angry Anne forces Futaba to gamble with her
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>>181420132
>no scene where the Phantom Thieves smoke weed in the attic together and chill with snacks and movies

Do teenagers in Japan not smoke the ganja?
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>>181420374
Weed is super illegal, pretty fucking rare and pretty fucking expensive in Japan so probably not.
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>>181420374
Despite their outcast/criminal status, the PT are still responsible and upstanding teenagers, Ryuji's lack of an indoor voice aside.
A group chill out scene that isn't 100% plot related would be nice, but I feel like the Mementos banter does a better job of developing the characters. Too bad the banter takes too long to trigger, and is too easy to cut off.
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>>181420483
>>181420540
But come on, smoking weed in a coffee shop would easily mask the smell! It's the perfect crime. If me and my friends were in that position we'd be doing bong hits around the table everyday
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>>181420374
Your cultural imperialism is showing, America-chan.
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>>181420662
Well then why don't they underage drink or smoke cigarettes in the attic? Joker could swipe swipe several packs from the stand that's literally around the corner from LeBlanc
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>>181418513
this. fok yu P-cucks
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>>181420748
Because Joker might be a filthy criminal but he's not an addict.
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>>181420748
Because that would push the game's rating too high for Japanese stores to carry it.
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>>181420374
Not our protagonists, no. They only criminal is Joker and the worst he ever does in his free time is to cheat at old videogames and work part time at a bar as a dish washer who listens to people.
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>>181421152
It's amazing how the opening scenes portray Joker as this super dangerous criminal mastermind, but as you play the game, you realize he's essentially a kid playing make-believe in a fantasy world. It just so happens that the fantasy world has a big fucking effect on the real one.
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What would the PTs' drug of choice be?
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>>181421350
weed
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>>181421497
Akechi seems like more of a meth/PCP type of guy.
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>>181421316
The Phantom Thieves commit felonies in game.
Hell, the entirety of Sae and Shido's dungeon is enough to put everyone away for a long time honestly.
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>>181421350
Life
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>>181421572
What felonies did they commit during Sae's arc? I'm not sure if you count anything they did inside the Palace as actual crimes.
You have a point on Shido's arc, since they hacked the TV screens to broadcast the calling card.
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>>181422004
Tampering in the police station to set up Joker's escape is obstruction of justice, and Sae is guilty of this too since she ends up helping.
You can argue that the whole thing was bullshit and all but the government is "just" and the PT are "evil" no matter what.
Fucking lawfags.
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Getting blackout piss drunk with aggressive genki sluts!
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>>181422485
>you will never get drunk with door-tan and junpei in iwatodai dorm
>junpei will never pass out and door-tan will never take advantage of the situation to cuddle with you
shoot me in the head right fucking now PLEASE
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>>181422653
Sure.
*BLAM*

Oh, too bad. I shot you with an Evoker. Now your berserk Persona will torture you to death! GAHAHAHAHAHA!
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>>181422485
If you're going to post genki sluts at least posts one that isn't shit and is actually canon
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>Consulted with the party in the safe room just before taking Kaneshiro's heart
>Makoto actually said that she'll hit him with her "fist of justice"
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>>181422836
Lisa's so not canon they had to make a second game where she wasn't even a party member.
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Will P6 focus more on personas and the versitality they offer?
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>>181422837
>I will never get fisted with justice by Makoto
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>>181422925
No.
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Rise Kujikawa is my favorite Persona girl.
Makoto Niijima is my second favorite
Ann Takamaki is my third favorite
Sadayo Kawakami is my fourth favorite
Ai Ebihara is my fifth favorite.
Call my taste shit all you want, but I enjoy these girls.
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>>181422836
GINKO PLEASES OLD MEN FOR MONEY
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>>181423071
YOUR TASTE IS FINE. For what reasons could you pick these girls?
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>>181423071
Your taste is shit all you want, but I enjoy these girls.
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>>181422901
>Lisa's so not canon
I really hope you're only pretending to be retarded
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>>181423241
I am.
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>>181419071
You have to get at least one rank up note for the auto rank.
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>>181423071
>Kawakami made the list

You're alright.
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My little NEET can't be this THICK.
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>>181418005
No, those were actual fucking cops. Goro brought them all in.
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>>181423071
>Kawakami and Ai
You're an upstanding fellow in my book.
Keep it up.
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>>181423148
Rise: I think has a fine line between cute and sexy. Heartfelt in her endeavors yet bubbly and lewd. Laura Baily also helped
Makoto: JUSTICE. Also her being a cute dork and her Persona is p.cool.
Ann: Sexy but doesn't flaunt it unless she has to. Despite being easily one of the most beautiful/sexy characters she's still very down to earth.
Kawakami: Fluffy! Also I really felt bad for her during her Confidant. Life dealt her a shit hand and she worked her ass off to try and fix it, even to the point of breaking.
Ai: I felt like she was a nice girl turned sour because of her past. Forehead aside I find she's the second/third most attractive girl in P4, and she worked for that. She put in the effort. If she didn't turn cold she'd probably be a contender with Rise for best girl imo. Also sucker for her hair style/color and smug.
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>>181423413
I swear I received zero notes during the Rank 2 event as well, but still went straight to Rank 3 after. Oh well, thanks anon.
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>>181423071
>one shit-tier girl
>2 god-tier girls
Could be worse.
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>>181418770
I couldn't tell if Ryuji was actually supposed to have a thing for Ann. It seemed pretty obvious at first and then kind of fell by the wayside.

I guess they can't lay it on too thick or you'd feel bad if you dated her.
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>>181423720
They can't let romance options hook up with characters that aren't the MC (even if the player chooses NOT to romance them), otherwise waifufags and the NEETs who play the game as a power fantasy will chimp out, and those players bring in more cash when they buy merchandise.
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>>181423720
Ryuji liking Ann would have been too much.
We already had Morgana lusting after her
We had Yusuke's little stint of wanting to draw her nude
Kamoshida wanted that Finnish pussy
And of course Joker can date her.
Ann is a good looking character, but at that point it becomes too much.
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>>181423720
He literally rejects a date from her in her social link because he doesn't think she's that hot
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>>181423720
>I couldn't tell if Ryuji was actually supposed to have a thing for Ann.
It was obvious he found her physically attractive but he didn't want to be more than friends. She was a friend he also liked to stare at the rack of sometimes.

>>181423870
More like because that would be a fucking nightmare to write for. If you're going to do a romance for a party member you better make it someone the MC can't touch.
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>>181422485
Please delet
Door-tan is a pure soul
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>Moments of calm
>Nothing left to be found
>A mirror right in front of me
>That's where I find
>An empty glass
>Reflecting the sad truth
>It's telling words not to be told
>I need the mask

So Joker's internal monologue is that without the Phantom Thieves gig, his entire life is an empty void? That's pretty deep for a Persona Protag.
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Playing Persona 1 for the first time, having a quick look at the guide and I noticed theres three different routes; 'Common', 'SEBEC' and 'SQQ'. I know the Snow Queen one is better left to a second playthrough, so what are the main differences between Common and SEBEC?
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>>181424365
>So Joker's internal monologue is that without the Phantom Thieves gig, his entire life is an empty void?

That's literally Door-Kun's character in the movies except with SEES instead of the PT
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>>181424365
Well, it would be a lot harder for him to make friends if they weren't dropped into his lap via PT shenanigans. IIRC, they actually explored this angle with Yu in the P4 anime.
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>>181424365
That's literally Yu Narukami's character in the anime except with IT instead of the PT
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>>181424397
Are you sure Common doesn't just mean the stuff before the route split?
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>>181424209
>Door-tan is a pedo slut
ftfy
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>>181424365
That's literally every Fool protagonist in the Persona series thus far. It's the only way to justify both the self-insert gimmick and the restriction of the multiple Persona mechanic to the player character.
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>>181424571
Wrong!
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Assuming personas are as strong as demon, would any MC manage to defeat Demifiend?
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>>181424959
nope
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>>181424959
Either Tatsuya or Door-Kun, but even then chances are slim since Demifiend is OP as fuck
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>>181424959
Does Demifiend get his 12k Gaea Rage from DDS? He auto-wins if he has that. P3MC and Joker have decent tools for fighting him otherwise, whereas Yu is screwed over by Almighty spells sucking in P4.
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>>181424959
No one in MT casts probably could
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Joker is a wunderkind!
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>>181424457
>>181424495
>>181424519
>>181424643
I mean the meta narrative has always been there, it's just surprising to hear this self-doubt expressed in the soundtrack.
>MC's real world soundtrack was happy uppity and didn't really have any meaning behind the words, besides a vague desire to get his dick wet. The dorm music literally steals lyrics from space jam.
>Narukami's themes express a desire for affection and love and heartbeat heartbreak is about him cheating on everyone.
>Signs of Love isn't even Narukami's theme, it's Nanako's, it talks about people trying to help her but she just daydreams to forget about her loneliness, and how she's occasionally fixated by pictures of her mother. To hammer this point home, the song literally does not play if she's not in the room. when you go up to your room or when she's in the hospital you either hear nothing or you hear "Alone" which has no lyrics.
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How do we fix p3 and p4?
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>>181425154
wunderbar!
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>>181424959
Joker's Satanael has an literal skill for killing gods
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>Elizabeth calls Aigis a literal "punkass" in P4AU
game may be shit but it's got osme hidden gems in there
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dvzYoadSGE&feature=youtu.be&t=19m30s
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>>181425232
>P3
Rerelase FES with FemMC route, replace tartarus
>P4
replace kuma with monokuma :^)
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>>181425342
Yeah, but I don't think Joker can bust that out again unless all of Shibuya wanted the Demi-fiend to get smoked.
Even then, Demi-fiend is vulnerable to guns, so a Gun build Satanael with double Firm Stance could do something.
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>>181425431
>replace tartarus
>completely breaking the flow and the theme of the game
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>>181425492
Its too boring and monotone after a 100+ floor
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>>181399565
>The garbage in the attic is the player himself
Brutal
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>>181425492
>>181425232
I didn't mind Tartarus, but it could be improved. Randomly generated dungeons have been done better.
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>>181425359
Elizabeth is the hidden gem in that game. Her dialogue honestly makes up for the rest of it.

The only good dialogue comes from Elizabeth and that one Akihiko/Chie conversation about how being a man isn't defined by gender and that the only time a man is allowed to cry is if he loses his wallet.
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>>181425359
>the way she says the line
please tell me the VA got a raise for that
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>>181425232
>P3
rework or completely remove and replace multiple secondary S-links. You don't even have to add direct command as long as you improve combat AI OR allow MC to issue tactics changes when it's not his turn, after all pretty much every system agrees that talking is a free action. Allow guarding, especially when Yukari insists on fighting enemies she's weak to. S-links with party members and S-link ability unlocks. Provide Valentines day event's during the forgotten period, allow real romance route with Toriumi. Either remove Takaya or make it so that he actually has a purpose in the story other than to shoot Shinji, who could have died a million more fitting and dramatic ways. Chidori and Jin are fine, they're misguided, not megalomaniacal retards. Fusion system overhaul with lessons learned from P4 and P5 obvs.
>P4
Change the Sun S-link, either rewrite Daisuke or simply don't make him an option. Rewrite Marie. Rework Marie's dungeon so it's not shit. Rewrite Yukiko's s-link so that something actually meaningful happens. Remove or rework the Capsule Machine. Make the perfect frame window on bug catching a little more forgiving. P5 fusion upgrades.
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guys
what if
listen now
what if
in persona 6
elizabeth is the MC, and the guest of the velvet room, and the gameplay is more SMT-fied, since Elizabeth is fucking OP, she takes on strong fucking demons and shit like in nocturne
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>Haru's VA cosplayed as Haru

Pretty cute.
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>>181425232
P3
>have social links that aren't shit
>have social links with all SEES members that aren't shit
>have the social links add benefits like the confidants did
>don't hide important character development behind the social links
>rewrite some of the characters a bit: make Yukari less bitchy, make Ken more sympathetic, etc
>have more events to just fuck around with your friends like in P4
>completely change Tartarus so it's not as monotonous
>don't present the ability to bring characters back to life
>rewrite the Answer so it doesn't make the characters seem like complete assholes
>make dungeon crawling in the Answer not garbage
That's all I have so far, feel free to disagree and recommend anything else
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>>181425359
>look up Elizabeth's VA
>it's Tara Platt
>same as Mitsuru
WHAT
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>>181426003
No
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>>181426003
>elizabeth is the MC
gross
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>>181426003
I'd be down for that. I love the setting and characters in P5, but they need to make the combat tougher to justify all the cool toys we get from confidants. Then again, making battles harder drives away most of the fanbase, who whinged to high heaven about a few enemies blocking Phys in the Okumura and Sae Palaces.
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>>181426102
>change Tartarus so it's not as monotonous

While I don't disagree, I actually preferred Tartatus to Mementos.
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>>181426003
>Elizabeth goes on a journey to save Tatsuya from the Other Side
I'd buy it.
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>>181426117
>Tara Platt is married to Yuri Lowenthal
>Door-Kun is voiced by Yuri
Door X Elizabeth is canon cumfirmed
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>>181426215
More like goes on a journey to save door-kun and just takes Tatsuya with her
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>>181426093
Wow, she actually pulled that off pretty well.

>>181425232
>P3
Less floors for Tartarus, but make them bigger and more challenging. Maybe have 'pre-set' floors with particular challenges that aren't bosses every X number of floors to break the monotony.
>P4
Integrate the 'slice of life' scenes into the main plot better. There's many scenes that have fuck all to do with solving the murder, and those scenes don't have character development either because that's locked behind social links.
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Good morning /pg/.

I love Ann.
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>>181426264
What about Mitsuru
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>>181426003
Now that i think about it it's not a bad idea, with her journey objective being door-kun, since Door-kun becoming a seal is something otherwordly it'd make sense to face some serious shit like actual demons and such instead of shadows, making the game harder too.
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Name one Social Link/Confidant worse than pic related unless it has no competition.
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>>181426446
She can join in too
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>>181426446
Mitsuru a shit!
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>>181425135
Persona guys have the slight advantage of having Endure type skills
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>>181426559
NO GOOD TORA
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>>181426559
he probably has the worst slink in the entire series
at least the fat kid's had a point
i don't know what his slink was even about
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>>181426559
You mean, the Moon social link?
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>>181426559
Fat Moon kid from P3?
Death lady from P4?
Daycare lay from P4?
Mamoru's only hated because a really good Persona is locked behind his link.
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MC is never coming back
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>>181426767
Which one?
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>>181426778
you know, MC
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>>181426697
>Death lady from P4?
I'll slap your shit
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>>181426396
We know Morgana
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>>181426767
FeMC, on the other hand...
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>>181426841
Maybe it was good, but I honestly can't remember it. I only remember IT links, Tower kid for his birthday party scene, Naoki, Dojima, Nanako, and Ai.
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>>181426767
His friends are gonna use the power of friendship to bring back for one day so he can fuck around with his friends and knock up his waifus before going back to existence as a door. BOOM! People get to see one more time and you got your characters for the next Persona game
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>>181426778
The one named MC
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>>181426834
Do you mean MC or MC?
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>>181426907
have even less chances of cumming back
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>>181426907
Never stood a chance of being canon
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>>181426102
>don't hide important character development behind the social links
P3 was the best at not doing that though.
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>>181426929
It was really somber but kind of terrifying, learning what it's like watching a loved one lose their mind until they forget you exist.
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What is it with Persona 3 and these shitty characters you'll never remember for S.Links? I could've sworn there was also a gay french that no one even remembers the name of
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Ms. Chouno Shuujin Academy Shota Buffet
Candidate found
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>>181427145
This guy was basically a beta version of Ryuji
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>>181427145
I can forgive Atlus for the sole fact that they at least improved over time. More or less
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>>181427145
>Talking shit about Bebe like I wouldn't find out
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>>181427145
Bebe?
P3 as a whole feels really experimental. They just threw a whole bunch of stuff at the wall to see what would stick.
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>>181427145
P3 has the best S.L of all time though. Also chariot wasn't that bad, I liked him. I think moon is the only one universally hated.
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>>181427351
The main problem of P3 Chariot is that it exposes how you get the best results from telling people what they WANT to hear, essentially setting up characters to fail. Maybe that was the point...
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>>181425342
Irrelevant. That requires the power of all of Tokyo. J
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>>181427036
Doesn't mean they're going to stick to that MO if P5 is anything to go by
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>>181427558
The fuck? Are you retarded? Why would they remove shit already ingrained into the story for a rerelease?
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>>181426102
>Wanting to give Junpei a social link
>Wanting to make DA MAN just another character
ISHYGDDT
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>>181427558
The plot is already important to the characters' development. There's no way they could remove that.
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>>181427280
they even threw in a random black girl that probably has the least fans in the series next to Ohya
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>>181427470
I saw it differently, you tell Kaz things like 'Suck it up' early because that's what puts him on the path to realizing on his own that he needs to change. Even if 'you' are aware what he has to do eventually, I feel that P3MC's way of doing things is to cause a natural transition rather than completely being forceful except in situations like the Moon Arcana where he goes to save Nozomi's ass anyway.

Anyway, just finished Shido's Palace up to the scene with Akechi and the interview. He says stuff like how it took him some time to get where he was after saying he got rid of people in his way and mentions being giddy or something after disposing of Joker, really makes one wonder.
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>>181427798
>next to Ohya
But Ohya is great.
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>>181427675
>>181427624
I don't know, Atlus is capable of doing some pretty retarded stuff from time to time. I'm just trying not to get my hopes up
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Guys, I'm at anime expo and this female joker cosplayer is super into me

BUT, my question is: is it gay to fuck a girl dressed as a boy? No dick probably but dressed as a guy
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>>181427863
we get it anon, you're a super rad contrarian
no matter what you think of her. she still has very few fans
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>>181427798
Number of fans inversely correlates with the quality of a girl.

Plebs like waifus with quirky, exaggerated traits or some kind of great fetish. Plain girls like Yuko, Ohya, Chihaya, Yucock, they are for the thinking man that appreciates true beauty.
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>>181427936
It has nothing to do with contrarianism.
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>>181425342
Yaldy isn't a real god.
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>>181427934
You're probably full of shit, but if you're not, hit that.
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New and improved.
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>>181427630
Honestly, I just want to have an excuse for dicking around with Junpei, Akihiko, and Shinji some more
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>>181427863
She's ugly as sin, reeks of booze, has a lame story no one probably remembers the details of, and her confidant ability is hideously useless.

The fatass transexual bartender in her confidant seems more interesting desu
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>>181427915
They're not going to rewrite major parts of the story for social links. You can't put Chidori/Shinjiro dying and Mitsuru and Yukari's relationship behind a S.L. The character development happens independent of MC so it would make no sense.
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>>181427934
who gives a shit about how gay it is?
if it looks pretty, fuck it
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>>181427936
Quit being such a faggot
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I found the Phantom Thief, quick someone call the cops while I keep him distracted
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>>181428136
Not to mention that's what distinguishes P3 from P4 and P5, while it still has writing issues like Ken being relevant for all of one arc and characters like Koromaru not really mattering, the overall divide between the characters and S.Links is less off-putting.
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>>181428136
I guess that's true. Nevermind then
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>>181426697
Mamoru is also hated because he was a fucking douche and almost a copypasta of Kaz.
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>>181428124
DELET THIS

She's just a regular woman in a game full of anime tropes and stereotypes. If she had something cute/funny about her, like she puts on those orange shades when she cries to hide her tears, people would like her more
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>>181427936
Why can't people just like Ohya without being accused of only liking her to be a contrarian? That makes no fucking sense.
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>>181428373
replying to a post about a character's fans with 'x character is great' when how good the character is wasn't even part of the question just says to me they wanted attention for having a different opinion
i didn't say 'all ohyafags are contrarians' either
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>>181428274
Nice aspect raidou
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>>181428368
She's a drunk.
>>
This is my maybe retarded interpretation of why so many of your Confidants need you to help them via Mementos request but No Good Tora isn't one of them:

The Arcana used to represent P5 might be the Star, but I believe Morgana's Arcana is Magician ultimately to show the means of reaching this hope and how the Metaverse itself is infinite possibilities that can be used for good and ill. All the Confidants who have requests are already at a changing point and you really just help them out by 'magical' means and they recognize that you do it not just because it's obvious, it's also because you as the Magician can't help them unless they want to step forward too. No Good Tora doesn't need this because he already has those means after falling into ruin once, showing you the true path: Magic or not, hearts change when people do.
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>>181428639
Sorry, I wasn't the one who responded tk the Yuko post. There's just this weird trend lately of accusing Ohyafags of only liking her to be contrarians. Like this is the fourth or fifth post I've seen about it in the past three days.
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>>181428893
I don't get it either, but then again having a minor in journalism probably makes Ohya a pretty fun character to me.
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Am I correct in thinking the bathroom in p3 has a random chance to improve your condition, and it only works once per day (despite being able to enter as many times as you'd like)?
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>>181428274
>one hep cat
did Morgana actually become a real human?
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I've been practicing my fortune telling to add some more pizzazz to my cafe idea. Please sit still as I attempt to read your heart and tell you who you truly love...

hmm... I see ... oh...

I see a lot of faces... all of us. Makoto-chan, Ann-chan, myself, Futaba-chan, and... Ms Kawakami? This headband must be broken.
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>>181429264
>and... Ms Kawakami?
I will not be judged by a sadistic forehead.
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>>181429080
bingo
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>>181429254
Is that Megan?
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>>181429264
I love Haru!
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>>181428368
>She's just a regular woman in a game full of anime tropes and stereotypes
That's honestly why I adore Ohya so much. She's be fun to hang out with and have a few beers. She isn't my favorite girl, but she's up there.
>>
> Goro practically robs the casino and gives you the chips to advance
> There's a movie called 'Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves'
> Out of all the PT Personas, who you see the fictional Robin Hood as is the most divisive since stories of him being loyal to the corrupt authority exist
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>>181429021
Idk, I just think she's really cute and I like her personality. I think I'd get along with her well.
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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1400070
this can't be fucking happening..... and everybody is FUCKING AGREEING
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>>181429674
(u)
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>>181429674
Here
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>>181429264
Ah, the headband is too small for your, uh, psychic abilities, as shown by your large forehead. I can sell you an XL size headband, for an additional 200,000 ten, of course.

With it you'd be able to narrow down his love to only you, probably.

Cash or credit?
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>>181429674
>neogaf
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>>181429674
question to anyone dumb enough to click the link, what is that thread about
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>>181429669
Chihaya and Ohya are among my favorites so I get you there.
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>>181429749
guy likes SMTxFE more than P5
he's finished neither
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>>181429674
>neogaf
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>>181429749
>I think I prefer Tokyo Mirage Sessions to Persona 5 - Here's why
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>>181429674
Why does neogaf hate P5 so much?
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>>181429674
>But as I'm about 14 hours into P5, and about 22 hours into TMS, I feel like my time with TMS has been much more pleasant
i have no reaction image to properly express this feel
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how often do you have unprotected sex per week? Answer honestly so I can help you.
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>>181429674
>neogaf
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>>181429807
>>181429871
yep that sounds about right for gaf
let me also guess what the others are saying
>P5 asks too much
>P5 doesn't respect my intelligence
>P5 is too long
>I actually like X thing which is universally agreed to be worse than Y thing more
>#FE characters are bland anime stereotypes but I like them more "for some reason"
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>>181429674
>NeoGaf
There's your issue.
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>>181429938
>worried laughter.jpg
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>>181429938
That depends, are you free saturday nights?
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>>181429920
not exaggerating when I say literally every Persona thread derails into no gay relationships/the Shinjuku gay guys within about 3 posts
the gay "community" on neogaf is more insane than usual and regularly doxxes men they consider attractive to get more suggestive pictures of them, they consider P5 hate speech
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>>181430014
I hate that smug fucking smirk whenever she decides to buff my team in the last turn
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>>181430130
My biggest nightmare is Atlus pandering to these people
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is it a good idea to do a mind numbing grind to level 11 on the 1st floor of kamoshida's palace so I can tackle the dungeon in one go?
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Getting drunk with Ohya!
Having casual flings that slowly get more passionate!
Drunkenly admit you love her making things awkward!
Expecting her not to be there in the morning but wake up in each other's arms!
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>>181429920
If you get yourself drunk and go to their spoiler thread in your stupor it'll turn out that most of them didn't understand the simplest shit about the game.
That's what happens when your bad pacing is the fast kind. Retards start missing shit left and right and they won't even go back to check before wasting an hour writing up a post about how nothing made any sense.
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>>181430058
you got the last one
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>>181430313
You can't do dungeons in p5 in one go
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>>181430130
yeah yeah but what do they think about Akechi?
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>>181430378
reach the treasure I mean
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>>181430313
yeah
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>>181430328
Yeah, I have quite a lot of quibbles about P5 but the ruse isn't one of them except for how it kind of hinged on too many gambles (But eh, maybe that's why the Palace before it was a casino).
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>>181429938
>Do you often experience nocturnal emission?
>Does your viscosity and colour tend to change after your fourth climax?
>Have you been keeping track of your volume like I asked?
>Does your underwear feel tight around the scrotum since I started medicating you?
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I want to know what 2ch thinks of Ohya and Yoshida
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I don't want to know what 2ch thinks of Ohya and Yoshida
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let /pg/ die already
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>>181430497
Are you the anon who said he'd write a Takemi fic where she gives joker a full checkup?
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>>181430579
i'm not the guy from yesterday, but i'll poke around a bit to see if i can find the threads
no promises though
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>>181430841
Nah, but I have written one in the past.
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>>181430440
the casino isn't the main thing
no one remembers groo was a puppet (or really anything about him at all besides muh daddy issues), no one remembers why they went to the final dungeon, no one has any clue that everyone moping around in the velvet room was directly related to how they found out they were stealing freedom a few scenes before that
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>>181399565
So Kawacake is popular there?
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>>181431023
Sadayo doesn't really seem to cause any sort of controversy in Japan like she does in the west and she's received fairly well overall, even if she isn't super popular.
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>>181399565
>I want to be stepped on by Anne
Agreed.
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>>181430259
Do you also fear Atlus pandering to the furry community? They're both on the list of "things you don't need to worry about."
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>>181431137
>controversy in the west
What? She's pretty great
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>>181427351
fuck I forgot how good Akinari's slink was
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>>181431137
>even if she isn't super popular

Goodbye any chance of getting more content with her. ;_;

>>181431261
"Dating your teacher" has a very negative stigma in the west.
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>>181430962
Yeah, those things you mentioned kind of make me feel it's so weird that the PT more or less blundered their way through a lot of things and fell hook, line and sinker for the Okumura thing and they suddenly get really competent for the ruse. Goro of course is easily my biggest complaint because if Atlus was trying to show him as a worst case scenario of the PT they sure failed at that and if he's supposed to be a villain he hardly comes off like that either with how laughable his boss battle is.
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>>181431137
there isn't any controversy here either
Shitheads on /v/ that go "oh wow evil woman called her a sex worker it's right there on screen so she must be a sex worker this is terrible worst girl" don't have enough volume to generate a controversy
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>>181431137
Let's be honest. Even in the west, when people talk about "controversy," what they mean is "a bunch of nobodies wrote angry blog and forum posts about it."

The only "controversy" P5 really had was the whole anti-streaming thing.
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>>181431023
Check this out 181402220

They seem to love best teacher
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>>181431261
"You can date your teacher but can't date men" is the negative tagline this game is getting outside of 4chan
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>>181431261
we're not the whole western community, you know
elsewhere there's people complaining about relationships with adults, with kawakami as a prime example
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>>181431320
Because it's weird. People want to pump and dump their hot teacher they don't want to start a relationship with them.
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>>181431023
Whoops >>181402220
Posts from the last thread
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>>181431397
Where? In America?
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>>181431397
>the negative tagline this game is getting outside of 4chan
By outside 4chan you mean Neogaf and probably some Tumblr pages.
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>>181431536
Yes.

Fucking Vice wrote an article about it.
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>>181431301
I don't remember clearly if this was the case, but probably in my file at least I never missed a single Sunday once his S.Link could be started. It's also one of the few Social Links that gets remarkably more poignant once you realize how much it mirrors the eventual fate of the protagonist.
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>>181431342
Links to this triggered blogs?
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>>181431301
That link fucked me up emotionally, Idk what i'd do in his situation.
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>>181431706
I don't know any. I don't go looking for articles to be mad at.
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>>181431338
>>181431342
>>181431261
Kawakami's basically the only adult female that constantly gets singled out when adult relationships come up and only because she's your teacher.
People will come up with all sorts of reasons as to why dating her is wrong even as far as referencing real news where a teacher pulls a Kamoshida then says "This is why being able to date Kawakami is a mistake!".
Of course these people completely ignore that your relationship with her is plenty wrong to begin with even if you don't romance her. That and they put too much focus on her being your teacher despite the fact that the game establishes that the Teacher/Student relationship is secondary.
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>>181430579
as far as i can tell, there's no character threads for either of them
disappointing desu
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I like Sadayo's slink because her life is messed up but she learns to live with it. She said it herself, she went from being a teacher to being a maid to dating her own student. Out of all the girls, she is by far the most depressed and uses you as a support in many ways, even though she knows it's pathetic and she should improve herself. She doesn't just have the hots for underage boys,i think some people misunderstand that about her and only see the age difference.
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>>181431905
Damn, I can see yoshi's being too good to have things to discuss or argue over, but the ohysfags are scarce even in Japan.
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>>181431723
Someone commented how emo he sounds, and I used to agree with this before wondering if the reason Akinari speaks in such poetic ways due to being stuck with books all the time. If so that's a clever touch that adds to how distinct he is from every other S.Link.

>>181431865
I agree, it's one thing if she straight up went into a relationship with him or they only knew each other as teacher and student when the Confidant is about her being a maid first and a teacher second. As much as I like Toriumi's S.Link for instance that's much better grounds for objection if they really went for dinner (Because she reveals she has the hots for you) together as Kawakami also pushes you away first even if you romance her.
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>>181431334
Your group doesn't really factor in, and Goro is not a worse case scenario for anyone besides Yusuke. He's meant primarily as Joker's exact opposite, and not in the "we're exactly the same except I don't have any friends" way that Adachi and Yu were opposites. Every little thing from ideology to fashion sense are at completely opposite ends. Even if you don't actually look at the character critically and see just how many ways they got that across he literally spells it out when he talks about being weighed down by his past and then again when he cries about being special.

When you have people skipping over this and every detail in the final dungeon as consistently as they do, it stops being as much the fault of Atlus for cramming more story into one section than they typically have spread out over an entire game and more the fault of the consumer for being stupid.
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>>181431918
Sadayo's confidant is mostly about you helping her regain her confidence, self worth and having her appreciate and take care of herself more instead of being overly selfless the point it's detrimental to her health.
Makes me sad that she's your homeroom teacher at times honestly, because a lot of people seem to interpret the above as you helping her become a better teacher, when her being a better teacher had little to do with what you helped her with emotionally.
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>>181432285
>When you have people skipping over this and every detail in the final dungeon as consistently as they do, it stops being as much the fault of Atlus for cramming more story into one section than they typically have spread out over an entire game and more the fault of the consumer for being stupid.
It reminds me of all the complaints that Atlus is as subtle as a brick to the head while people fuck up concepts that are blatantly stated. Repeatedly. I can only think of a few other examples as pathetic.
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>>181432285
from what I've seen one of the problems are people stop playing the game at arbitrary points, make up their whole conclusion of the plot and story based on that, and then if the actual story doesn't line up with it, they get confused and mad.
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>>181432285
It baffles me how people can't into basic symbolism.
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When starting the Kawakami romance, I thought the line "I'm a man; you're a woman" was a clever way of subverting the teacher and maid fetishes and showing you care for her as something more.
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>>181432285
Oh, I get the symbolism bit. My issue is his writing at present seems messy, if he was meant to be sympathized with Atlus seems to have forgotten how critical show and not tell is. Rest of it I agree is probably mostly people not paying attention to words, but I'll be back to talk about more if I finish the game next week.
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>>181431649
>>181431723
>>181432220
"The meaning of my life is not something I should worry about. It's really what others think of my life or what I was able to do for them. So... for me, or you, or anyone... the meaning of our lives is something that we make but don't see. People can't survive without help from others. ...We all depend on one another."
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>>181433085
>Atlus seems to have forgotten how critical show and not tell is
I do think a few flashback scenes of Goro getting seriously abused may have done wonders. Maybe in Crimson.
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memes jack
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Out of all Persona characters, who deserve The Most Love?
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>>181433453
Counter-point: Swimsuits
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>>181433347
Nice try, but Joan loves gori, he is number 1 in all polls

Expect a "save akechi ending" and a side game because he has the wild card
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>>181433702
Shinji
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>>181433702
muh koto!
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>>181433347
I'm guessing the messy development of the game resulted in a lot of those long exposition scenes near the end. Eventually they hit a point where they just had to get the game out and couldn't go back and revise it.
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>>181433702
door-kun had a hard life
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>>181433702
My waifu of course.
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>>181433789
Japan loves Goro*
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>>181433076
I found that section interesting. "I'm a teacher and you're a student" followed by the choices "I'm a master; you're a maid." leading to friendship came off as respecting their relationship dynamics.
"I'm a man; you're a woman." choice ignores this and is basically the "Fuck societal norms, I'm a motherfucking Phantom Thief" choice. Though some people have expressed that Joker's aggressiveness and Kawakami's reaction to his advances make the romance come off as forced. Which I found odd because that's how I expected every adult woman to react to the situation, except the other 3 don't care that he's a minor with Ohya coming off as the biggest deviant of them all.
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>>181433702
Tatsuya, Shinjiro, Door-kun/-tan, Junpei i guess since his waifu died and is now inside him so he's probably stay a virgin forever because he's a loyal boy
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>>181433789
>he is number 1 in all polls
???
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>>181433789
It can be both. It would improve a lot.
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>>181433702
Shinjiro since love will literally save him
He also just had a really shitty life and doesn't deserve what happened to him.
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>>181433789
No one but fujos love goro, they are simply a loud and annoying minority.
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>>181434032
>Number 4
Huh? Isn't he number 2 after Lavenza/Caroilne or something?

Also, he mean Sega Polls back in december 2016 or something.
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>>181433859
I can tell the development was long and hard.

I still stand by the idea that it's GOTY material but could use some tweaks if Atlus ever goes back.
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>>181433702
Tatsuya had the hardest life.
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>>181433347
Expect him getting mindfucked by Nyarly anon
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>>181432545
>>181432627

Fucking this. Atlus literally can't win. People didn't realize MC died at the end. And people still bitch at Goro for turning into a loser edgelord for his bossfight when it's explicitly stated that's not really him, he's turning himself psychotic.

I'll probably get trolled more for saying this but it reminds me a lot of Mass Effect, especially Mass Effect 3. I'm not saying ME is on the same tier as Persona at all, but there are still some interesting themes and sub-textual shit in those games that deserves mature discussion. The ending to 3 is a prime example. If you bother to actually study what's being said, pick up on the subtext, and relate it to the themes and motifs in all three games, then it's a surprisingly fitting end to the trilogy and is consistent with the lore and narrative. Sure, it's flawed in it's execution, but it's still not nearly as bad as it's made out to be by idiot shitposters who take one look at it, see that it's not what they wanted or expected it to be, and invent complete bullshit problems to complain about instead. A similar thing happens with the Goro arc. People expected him to be Joker's mirror, or rival, or something really cliche and simple like that, and the truth is that their relationship and Goro's failings are a lot more complex. Whether it's good or not is a different debate. Most people just hate on him, and Shido, and Yaldy, and Ryuji, and Morgana, and Yukari, and Yukiko, and Naoto, and any other character who is complex and defies easy categorization into the archetypes that players expected them to fill, because they are literally seeing a different character or plot event in their mind, and criticize the writers for not writing the character or plot they were expecting. And this destroys all meaningful discussion because half the fanbase is talking about a completely different character or event than the other half.
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>>181434307
I doubt any publications are giving it GOTY. The minor controversies combined with the boner for BOTW killed it in the water.
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>>181434321
Everyone must come together to fuck his brains back in.
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>>181434405
>when it's explicitly stated that's not really him, he's turning himself psychotic.
>>181434321
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>>181434405
Groo is a terrible villain regardless of subtext. We can't sympathize with him because we know very little about the things he's angsty about, so he just comes off as a prick.

He's also not a good villain because he never feels like a threat, despite his great power, and he honestly just feels secondary. The only thing not making him laughable is the performances from both of his VAs.
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>>181433702
Honestly, I think it's Sojiro. The guy does so much good, taking care of Futaba and Joker and standing by them when nobody else would, and he gets a whole world of trouble for it. Saying goodbye to him was the hardest, and I hope that Joker still thinks of him as family when he's back home.
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>>181428083
how would kawacake respond to you calling her an old hag?
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>>181434756
Then she dumps your corpse in Tokyo Bay.
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Let's stop talking about Groo and let's talk about the reason we're all here. Pornography.

What is the best Persona Doujin and why is it: https://e-hentai.org/g/450062/419a150eeb/
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>>181434887
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>>181434310
I want to hug Tacchan
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>>181434887
I'm not here for pornography though
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>>181433702
>how to find people who didn't play Persona 3
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>>181434887
The one in which Mitsuru makes a pajama party in which she fucks fukka with a dildo and Door-tan fucks yukari at the same time while Junpei sits just outside not realizing what's going on there
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>>181434407
I mean, I expect a few weird sites to give it GOTY and many others to still get it in the running. BotW will obviously take most of the awards. But I was speaking more from personal taste. And I don't put much stock in controversy.
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>>181434756
>old hag
Why would you lie?
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>>181434887
The best Persona doujin is that Go-whatever one with Yukiko drawn by Maybe
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>>181434405
>People expected him to be Joker's mirror, or rival
he literally is joker's mirror
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>>181435075
It's got the best plot but the art is fucking hideous
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>>181435203
It's the faces, the rest is alright.
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>>181434887
The one by the same author where Yu fucks Rise while Kanji watches is pretty good too
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>>181435176
Close, but no cigar. For one, Joker's mirror would be made out of glass.


>>181435237
It's the sequel to that one. It's just as good, and the idea of Rise thinking she's NTRing Kanji despite the fact that she's definitely not is humorous.
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>>181434307
It was 4 and a half years at most but it was hard because they never had all div2 hands on deck until Atlus was working on absolutely nothing else. Hashino said awhile back that P5 had a small subgroup of dedicated people working on it while spinoffs and SMTIV were made for money and it was nearly cancelled during this time.
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>>181435127
The best is Everyday Young Life Eros
Also Naotobon and maybe Secret Lover. But mostly cutsey/funny non-H stuff
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>>181435327
>SMT IV was made for money
Is that why it's so shit?
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>>181435230
I can't remember but I know both times I tried to read it I just felt disgusted for some reason. It can't just be the faces.
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>>181435449
it's good though
i liked it at least
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>>181435449
that wasn't exactly how I meant for that to sound but Cuckpocalypse definitely was, you can almost see the moment when div1 stuffed their dignity into a cat food can and mailed it to Kaneko
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>>181428124
>have to conduct interviews and write articles for a living
>understand Ohya's pain

Wifed immediately. She's the most generic person in a game of anime cliches.That's why I like her.
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>>181435621
IV was okay. Apocalypse was shit, and you could tell it was written by people who wanted to work on Persona but they weren't allowed to.

Kaneko when?
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When Persona 4 was new and relatively spoiler safe, was Adachi being the killer a huge twist or something people knew from the get-go
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>>181435804
kaneko isn't a writer
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>>181435860
it wasn't as obvious as Akechi being the douche
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>>181435860
There were a couple of retards on IGN and gamefaqs that were completely floored despite it being obvious enough from the second you saw him
Since then the retards on IGN and Gamefaqs have become the vast majority of people which is why you'll hear people call the twist surprising in retrospect
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>>181435804
>Kaneko when?
Never. He has ascended to a high plane of existence
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Burning Yusuke's mom's painting!
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>>181435951
I wasn't even spoiled and I knew he would be the douche as soon as they introduced him. Atlus did a shit job with the character.
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>>181435904
Kaneko isn't a writer, but denying he's had a huge influence on the way they were written is silly, considering he was Creative Director.
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>>181435904
It doesn't really matter. You'd have to be on the lower end of fanfiction writers to completely ruin something that Kaneko has direct control over.
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>Haru's confidant skills render Sojiro's redundant
>Cripple, Snipe and One Shot Kill mean you can effectively bench Yusuke and Morgana
>Amrita Shower allows you to disregard Makoto's Energy Shower and Morgana's Me Patra from that point on
>-karn skills and Heat Riser means she officially becomes Joker's buffslut for boss fights
What were they thinking?
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>>181436059
I'm still pissed that he was the traitor, especially because prior to that he was RIGHT. If he was played as an actual detective counterpart he could've been way more interesting and complicated the morals of the game.
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>>181436015
I get tons of people saying they knew from the first second they saw him and there was no evidence at all in equal measure.

Atlus can't win.
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>>181436042
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>>181435124
Kawakami is perpetually 18 years old!
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>>181436159
>Not going Morgana/Makoto/Haru/Black Frost for maximum crits
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>>181436174
>especially because prior to that he was RIGHT.
I was ready to yell because I thought you were talking about Adachi.
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>>181435449
Every game that has a price tag is made for money
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>>181436281
You know it!
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>>181436159
>>Haru's confidant skills render Sojiro's redundant
Nigga I had 30 coffees and curries by the time Haru joined, Haru¡s the redundant one
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When there is an anime bad guy that pretends to be good and it's supposed to be a mystery, why is it always so disgustingly obvious they're bad?
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>>181436281
Yukari pls
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>>181436302
Adachi did nothing wrong
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Is Persona 5 worth playing despite the terrible voice acting?
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>>181436080
>considering he was Creative Director.
Of what? I don't see that credit anymore. The highest title he's had was Producer on SJ. Okada was the brains of SMT.
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Is there blast processed Mementos theme? I need it.
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>>181436401
Adachi was not disgustingly obvious.
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>>181436467
Adachi did nothing wrong.
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>>181436427
What do you mean terrible voice acting? the sub is perfect
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>>181436427
play japanese voice for that sweet Sugita best boy
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>>181436302
Adachi is just a lunatic.

But Akechi's claims of the PT being in the wrong and sticking to that made him genuinely likeable, even if I knew they would throw that all away because he's the traitor.

It especially stings when you consider that the reason the PT gets emo in the VR is because they realized what Akechi was saying was right, and that they were not better than what they were fighting.
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>>181436427
P5 has excellent voice acting, but questionable voice direction. Some stand out VAs were Ryuji's, and at least near the ending Goro.
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>>181436042
Is there Sayuri porn yet?
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>>181436438
The Nocturne Japanese Trailer (https://youtu.be/V59UR1SlaeE) bills him as Creative Director.
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>>181436424
He got his pasty ass beat
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>>181436634
yamero
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>>181436634
There's a version of her breastfeeding
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>>181436178
There was no choice other than Adachi by virtue of it being a mystery story, and all mysteries following very basic rules, and further his design was the single one in the entire game that fit a killer. Had they not messed with Dojima to make him seem less suspicious there might've been some doubt but that went out the window once the decision was made to throw all of P4's weight on the slice of life and Dojima had to safely fit the hard working distant father. Atlus had to withhold any and all evidence until the end because if we actually look back at P4 and how blatant all the things the IT recalled at the last minute really were there wouldn't have been a mystery period.
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>>181436427
The dudes are fucking great. Females are less so.

Just get sub if it bothers you so much.
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>>181436557
Except they absolutely were better than all the villains
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Makoto and Joker are the only characters to use hand guns.
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>>181436427
The jap voices are free, no reason not to use them.
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>>181436557
>Akechi's claims of the PT being in the wrong and sticking to that made him genuinely likeable
Uh. No, it didn't.

Dude claiming PTs were unjust whilst actively murdering and lobotomizing people is fucking hypocritical at best. He had no moral code, everything he did was to further his own shit plan.
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>>181436914
Well there you have it she's canon
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>>181436427
Oh, yes, the gameplay is good. It's a shame all those high-grade seiyuu phoned in their performances.
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>>181436427
The English VA is not terrible and if you don't like it you can just play it subbed.
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>>181436914
Goro does too
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>>181436828
>Females are less so.
Not even a Makotofag, but her English VA is great. I agree the dudes are overall better though.
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>>181436948
No, just handcannon
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>>181437087
I literally never used him so I don't know what weapon he uses other than the gay lazer sword
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>>181436741
That's awful. Poor Yusuke. Where exactly does this version exist? Like where exactly would one go to see it? I want to make sure I never go there
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>>181436942
I might not have been making myself clear enough.

Akechi was in the right prior to the reveal he was the Black Mask. If he was never the Black Mask to begin with, he'd be a much better character.
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>>181437219
akechi uses a toy raygun
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>>181437219
he uses a pew pew laser gun

though I'm not sure how enemies are tricked into thinking that actually works
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>>181437219
He uses handguns in the fucking story
A real one at that
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>>181437350
Dude slingshots lamo
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>>181437324
If he were never the black mask, he would be an incredibly boring character with no fujo following.

Which would make him far better.
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>>181437219
Why wouldn't you use him though? I don't like Goro but he's a great party member for the two hours that you get him.
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>>181437403
Ryuji basically brings that up and Morgana basically says to stop thinking too much about it
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>>181436942
It wasn't to further the plan, the plan is a means to an end by the time P5 actually starts. Goro is obsessed with acceptance and will do literally anything for it. Whatever justice he wanted when he started didn't mean anything after Shido made him believe he would eventually acknowledge him.

There was a moral code, but again not one that mattered. Whether what he did was right or wrong was unimportant. He's a puppet and he's letting Shido hold his strings. The whole reason why he has to make himself rampage when he goes up against Joker is because he absolutely refuses to acknowledge any of that no matter what.
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>>181437350
There's a part of the collective unconscious that sees laser guns as real threats so long as they aren't in the hands of storm troopers.
And Mona's slingshot works because fuck you, power of cognition.
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>>181437446
>a great party member
Not really, all of his abilities eat SP so you won't be able to use him for very long at all. His usefulness is extremely limited.
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>>181437350
Cognition, son.
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>>181437551
>It works because the enemy thinks about it too much
>But don't think about it to much
This game I swear
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>>181437635
So put a god damn SP accessory on him. SP is never an issue once you get those.
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>>181437551
The real answer is that the fake guns shoot the PT's killing intent at the Shadows, which is what actually hurts them.
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>>181437446
I just love Ryuji, Makoto and Ann on my team
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>>181435860
It's pretty obvious that it's him if you pay attention, but it got people good enough, I think. P4G kinda ruined it by introducing that incredibly weird SL with him.
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>>181437616
>Goro is obsessed with acceptance
You mean revenge. That's his motivation, not acceptance. You have some funny ideas about this character anon.
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>>181437683
Haru needs to calm the fuck down then
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>>181437635
At that point why aren't you using everyone on rotation?
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>>181437753
This is objectively the best party.
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>>181437683
lolno
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>>181437648
It's just a game. You should really just relax.
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>>181437990
I was. He's always the first to get booted out.

>>181437681
>wasting money on a character who joins the party for a single dungeon
What are you a stupid fujo?
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Is this one of those random questions that will screw me out of a contact if I don't pick the right choice?
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>>181437872
Found someone that needs to replay the fight. You missed every single thing that happened after the first phase ended.
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>>181438000
>best party
>Ann
What
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>>181438105
I'm just joking man, but I'm not actually getting upset over this. I just think its funny that the game establishes this logic so early and then immediately throws it out the window
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>>181438227
Maybe switch her out for Morgana, or Yusuke if you need more phys abilities.
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>>181438227
Concentrate makes her the best magic user
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>>181438227
Anne has the second highest DPT in the game, secondary to only Ryuji.
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>>181438227
Ann does an incredible amount of damage once she learns Blazing Hell and Concentrate
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>>181438262
I think it's less throwing it out the window and more that Ryuji won't get it because Ryuji.
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>>181438376
Actually it goes
Haru + Futaba > Ryuji > Anne
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>>181438105
>it's just a game
>that's focuses on story a lot
>that can't follow the rules of its own world for more than 20 minutes
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>>181437872
Does't he say that he did everything just so that people would want him around?
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>>181437872
He wants revenge over not being accepted. His entire thing is that he wants to be loved.
He's also kind of dumbass who doesn't realize having friends is how you get to be loved, but he's not Makoto so simple logic escapes him.
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>yfw you're just some rich politician who's been working under Shido for fear of suffering a mental shutdown and now the asshole is talking about how he needs to atone
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>>181438507
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>>181438000
trips confirm
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>>181438463
Okay, it's not just a game. It's real life
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>>181438396
>explanation is it must look real to trick the shadows into thinking it's an actual weapon that could hurt them
>Ryuji brings up the inconsistencies with weapons like Morganas or Goros
>Somehow "Ryuji is too dumb to get it" is the explanation
Fuck off. There was no excuse for that, you can't trash Ryuji for it when he's the only one who made sense in that situation.
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>>181438396
Ok so now I'm confused. Morgana said that their replicas only work because the shadows perceive them as real in their cognition. He uses a slingshot, a "weapon" that everyone recognizes as a harmless toy. Why is the fault in logic on Ryuji, in this case I agree it doesn't make much sense. Unless the shadows somehow percieve Morgana as David from the bible or something
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>>181438710
There is an excuse
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>>181438808
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>>181438495
Goro is the kind of person that's only interested in one way relationships where he gets everything and the other person doesn't matter. The way he blackmails the PT into teaming up with them, versus how Joker makes deals the whole game with everyone, and then how Goro makes a new deal with them right before he dies, speaks volumes to that.
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>>181438393
There are only a few times when Concentrate+Blazing Hell/Agidyne are more useful than Morgana/Haru's CRITS FOR THE CRIT GOD, but I suppose Tarunda is good. Sometimes.
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>>181429254

Lindbeck is such an Amazon she needs to kneel to fit in frame.
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