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Sadayo Saturday : The Final Hours Edition

NEWS
>Hashino thanks western piggus: http://personacentral.com/message-director-katsura-hashino-celebrating-western-release-persona-5/
>New game domains registered: http://personacentral.com/potential-persona-5-spin-off-website-domains-registered-including-p5d-p5u/
>English P5 DLC schedule: http://personacentral.com/persona-5-dlc-scheduled-announced-english-release/
>Next major event announced for August 2nd: http://personacentral.com/large-scale-persona-live-event-announced-august-2-2017/
>New Persona games to be announced 2017: http://personacentral.com/atlus-to-announce-several-games-in-2017-includes-the-persona-series/
>New Atlus studio "Studio 0" to create new RPG named Project Re Fantasy: http://personacentral.com/atlus-project-re-fantasy-concept-video-site-update/
>Persona 20th Anniversary radio CD announced: http://personacentral.com/persona-20th-anniversary-radio-cd-detailed/

INFO
>P5 Info
pastebin.com/MJuR9h0S

GUIDES
>General Guide
pastebin.com/eCHRjKCZ
>PQ Guide
pastebin.com/Bq16HvJh
>P4U2 Guide/Resources
pastebin.com/M3MPepKb

DOWNLOADS
>Art, Guides, Music, etc.
pastebin.com/Vh0CdRit
>P4 Dengeki Comic Anthology
mediafire.com/?4kjjaf0jtw2jyj3
>Persona Image Collection
mediafire.com/?9j3us2v34coua
>Persona 5 Resources
pastebin.com/CZEvEgiE
>Persona ISOs
mega.nz/#F!5iQAGTLB!U1LUUTLtawRdsWSDDFSAQQ

MANGA
>Scans
personascans.tumblr.com
mediafire.com/personascans#unst48ukbu457
pastebin.com/L3WXvsf3
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I love Ann!
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She's mine /pg/
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robot is forever!!
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Obligatory Makoto post
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I'm trying to make a Persona that specializes in every element. Here's my Alice:
>Concentrate
>Mudo Boost
>Curse Boost
>Curse Amp
>Eigaon
>Maeigaon
>Drain Bless
>Die For Me!

Does anybody know the Personas that are best to specialize in the other elements?
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Neet?
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Kawakami a kawacutie
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BEST BOY GOING THROUGH
THEY ARE THE CHAMPIONS, BUT HIM, MOST OF ALL
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Best woman, best cake, best wife.
Claimed.

Add more dates to P5!
Teaching Sadayo how to make infiltration tools, coffe and curry!
See Sadayo go pray at the shrine for Joker!
See Sadayo cry when she finds out I turned myself in.
Go on a hot springs date with Sadayo where she washes my back and I wash her hair then we get in a mixed bath together!
Go on a formal date with Sadayo where she wears a fancy dress and gets all dolled up just for you!
Joker moves back to Tokyo after finishing high school and is living together with Sadayo!
Eating Traditional Japanese breakfast with Sadayo!
Ask Sadayo for lap pillows!
Go fishing with Sadayo on Sundays and catch the Guardian together!
Visiting Sadayo at her place!
Going home together with Sadayo!
Sadayo visiting Joker's family!
Joker visiting Sadayo's family!
Joker proposing in front of all his friends!
Traditional wedding "Happily Ever After" timeskip event!
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Remember /pg/ 3D women are worse than insects. Love your waifu and wait for the day when 3D women garbage will be eradicated!
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Phantom is from Sumaru City!
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Best outfit
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>>181384806
Jack Frost/ Ice
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>>181384834
Smelly pussy?
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You are now posting in Marie's thread!

YEAH-YEAH! Now DANCE!
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What did he mean by this?
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>>181384952

Rude
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>>181384929
I hate Naoto's stupid hat
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>>181384872
Great taste.

Good night /pg/
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>>181384834
Eat the NEET
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Is there anything more autistic than the early minutes of a new /pg/ thread?
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>>181384976
Making out, in all seriousness.
Which would totally ruin Rise's chances of ever going back to the idol industry
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>>181385067
The rest of the /pg/ thread
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>>181384929
That's a cute door.
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Any girls ITT want to be my GF?
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>>181385067
Is every general not like this at the start of a new thread?
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>>181384976
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I'm at the P5 panel at Anime Expo. I'll update as it goes
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>>181385067
Ryujiautists/poz memez
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>>181385028
Luckily she isn't wearing a stupid hat. It's also her main body.
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>>181385067
Fuukafriend
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>>181385084
Who ever going to find out if they do it behind the bleachers? Tofu wench doesn't have that many stalkers, does she?
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What 2ch thinks of Akechi Goro, sorry if this ends up being too long

OP Intro:
A juvenile who has a title of a detective while being a high school student.
That skill is splendid and has led to solution so far
The number of cases is far more than that of the investigative institution staff
It seems that it surpasses. Its appearance also attracts attention,
People are also called "return of the detective prince".

>Also, I personally think that it is too fast to set up a thread.
>From next >> I think that it is better to set a thread from around 960
people too quick on the draw making new threads, Akechifags, everyone.

>I wanted to be friends with him ('· ω · `)

>When P5U comes out Adachi looks like a cabbage detective
>Akechi is a pancake detective but a sushi detective that does not go around
>Is it a hot spit octopus burning detective but will it be fucked up?

>All right, because P4U is not only Adachi but also Adachita with severe incitement complaints with P4U, P5U is surely not only Akechi but everyone is terrible!
this guy also wonders if Black or white costume akechi will be in the fighting game.

>Gorow-chan ... It's tough.

>Personally I believe Akechi helped Ryuji when escaping from Sidoo Palace
>I hope you will take a journey through Hell by DLC with a feeling like Akechi Downfall
>It is a trip of redemption to defeat another goddess from the husband doing it while shadows are used
>I would like to see Akechi's solitary fight quietly eliminating the threat of mankind without being known by anyone

>Akechi, I love you ('· ω · `)

>Akechi, what has become of it after all?
>He did something unforgivable, so I think that that end is reasonable.
>However, since there is no definite death depiction, I am tough to tell if it really died.
>('- `) .. oO (I wanted to confirm life and death)
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>OHOHO SO WE'RE GONNA POST 'LEWDS' HUH? WELL DONT MIND IF I DO. YOU'RE GETTING AN EXCLUSIVE LOOK AT HOW THE BEST GIRLS STRUT THEIR STUFF. WHAT DO YA THINK, /PG/?
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>>181385084
>tfw you realize that she chose fame and fortune over you
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>>181385174
https://www.twitchtv/animeexpo

I think they're streaming it right here.
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>>181385174

If Daymond's there tell him to make people stop talking about groo
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>>181385174

Kill Zander live on stage with a silenced pistol
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>>181385315
>>181385174
It's just the English voice actors though so who gives a shit?
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>>181385174
Make sure Xander and whoever voiced Ryuji know that they're the most talented out of that whole group.
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>>181385267
Well, considering the peeping tom, the paparazzi who you had to question for information, and the Rise superfan fa/tg/uy in the practice building amongst others are all looking to catch a glimpse of her, yeah she does
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How do you quell the hatred for humans inside of you /pg/?
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>>181385294
Well to be completely fair, even if she decided to stay in Inaba and run the tofu shop, Narukami would've left her, too. Same goes for every other waifu, Narukami books it back on a train and doesnt even attempt to get his parents to agree to let him finish out his high school career at Yasogami
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>tfw the trailers were more exciting than the game
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Futaba's voice actress looks like how I would think she would look like
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>>181385272
>It is a trip of redemption to defeat another goddess from the husband doing it while shadows are used

So like Sophia or something?
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>>181385046
May you dream of best woman.
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>>181385315
Well then I'll sit back and enjoy. They did give out stickers though
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>>181384806
You can use anything you want, really. With skill cards and gallows, all you need to cover are elemental weaknesses
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>>181385281
Thicc?
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Everyone really likes Haru's VA huh

but she was the worst one IMO
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Posted this late in the last thread. Are any of the paid costume sets worth getting? I'm leaning towards Catherine or DAN but would like opinions. Any to avoid at all costs?
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>>181385678
>no Goro <3

Retconn out of P5 altogether when?
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>>181385727
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>>181385660
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>>181385383
nobody, absolutely nobody cares, good on you for calling them out
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>>181384929
Gigas'? He's just wearing a speedo, right?
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>>181385785
DAN are my favorite
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Door person.
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>>181385785
But her VA is cute
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>>181385814
jesus christ I could put my entire head between her tits and not touch either of them. This is the exact opposite of what I like.
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>>181385281
DEATH
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>>181385660
Meanwhile Joker's absolutely based voice actor looks exactly like Tatsuya would look like. who is also named Joker
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>>181385812

Yeah really. I dunno why they even had him in the party at all if they're just gonna pretend he wasn't.

Might as well just have him follow them around as an observer and then reveal his evil suit and Persona in his boss fight only.
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>>181385678
did you me get a morgana plush
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>>181385878
I agree, her VA is very cute.
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>>181385383
I care.
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>>181385272
Takemifags on 2ch:

I would like you to palpate over plenty of time in the house call
>The older characters are attractive this time,
>Takeimi's cuteness is missing one head
Erotic
Breasts are big
>Now I drank that the dick is cheerful 24 hours a day
>I know the rest ...
When switching to purchase screen of medicine
Be creative with how to raise your feet
>Extremely sexy
I love the process of breaking such a woman
>Valentine's Day Best
some guy made a gif of the pharmacy menu along with posting a bunch of pictures of her face (attached)
>I want to wiggle back with that thin waist.
And finally some guy drew takemi and joker art and posted it.
http://i.imgur.com/U0PzKqY.jpg
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>>181385894
Forgot pic.
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>>181385785
That squeaky,high pitched voice got annoying way too quickly
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>>181385883
>p4 treats sexy milfs like they're scary
>p5 treats sexy milfs like the treasures they are
Glad to see someone in the team got some taste
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>>181385878
That's weird it's not horizontal on my phone
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>>181386043
Personally I just hate female VA's where their voice is so demure it sounds like talking is causing them physical harm.
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>>181385785
Agreed. Only good female English VA is "STUPID FAGGOT LITTLE COCKSUCKER"
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>>181386086
If you like Kashiwagi, the problem may be with you.

Besides, Yu had the nurse to fuck.
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>>181386034
They know.
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>>181386156
What's wrong with kashiwagi?
>Yu actually fucking that tease
Wwwwwwww
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>>181385795
Get Ultimax for Makoto's ass
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>>181386035
haircut's a lot more flattering on him than it is tatsuya desu
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Alright this is getting a bit too cringy for me

plus I'm playing P5 literally right now and it's kinda making me enjoy the game less, hearing them do the voices right now
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New thread topic
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>>181386086
you have no idea what a milf is
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>>181386447
Just get in the fucking bag.
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>>181386447
Can I ride you in Mementos?

>Captcha: Select all images with a bus.
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>>181386461
Kashiwagi has like 6 babydaddies who she gets child support from despite not actually having kids
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I can't wait for Persona 5 Akechi Goro of the Resurrection!
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>>181386447
your breath smells like cat food
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>>181386560
I knew my memory wasn't fucking with me
Why was kashiwagi in the p3 movies
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>>181386582
You can say that to Makoto, she eats it from time to time.
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>>181386349
She's a whore that reeks of desperation and just wants to get with a younger boy for her own ego.

And she fucks him. It's lacking a bit of subtlety. Does anyone have the scene?
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Morgana's VA is kinda funny
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>>181386645
should've gone with Yusuke
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>>181386035
he looks like this now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWwL-1ztSaM
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>>181386447
Good morning
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>>181386638
Operation Babe Hunt
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>>181386447
for the love of god please start shitting into the litter box instead of right next to it
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Make way for best boy
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>>181386767
You left your namefag on.
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>>181386367
it's survivable but the second they get to Q&A I am diving for the Close Tab button
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>>181386716
Some handsome Tatsuya to ugly Joker.
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>>181386034
Takemi sensei!
I will pregnant you, so let 's name Miwa as a child!
>I would like to grind that erotic legs
Take me, Takemi!
>How many cups are you?
>Legs are legs without complaints
Some guy notes that the gifts she likes are classical music, the cactus, and the mug, which are not really punk-rock things, so her costume seems to be a rebellious one that doens't fit her true personality. Another anon replies that maybe Takemi was originally a design for one of the main characters.
>I wanted to see Takemi's bathing suit
>I wonder if it will come with DLC that can change clothing partner
>I would like to put on white costume on swimwear

Picture of tae in a shuujin uniform http://i.imgur.com/K23JEln.jpg
An anon responds that the ripped denim suits her more. Attached is art someone else made.

Another guy just posts a screenshot of takemi facing away from the screen when she's in Futaba's room.
all he has to say is: Takemi's valuable back head

A discussion about health turns to baldness and what causes it, would Takemi help you with your hair problem?
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>>181386716
>Goes from looking like the second best Persona protagonist to the first best
Xander had the odds stacked against him from the start.
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>>181386818
Why?
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>>181386638
P3P adds her to that scene at the island resort beach that I forgot the name of.
Pretty much everything new in P3P appeared in the movies EXCEPT FeMC.
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>>181386698
Probably.

Goro would have been a good choice too.
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>>181386824
>the nips want to impregnate their waifus

they really are just like us
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>>181386881
heh, because she's not canon
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>>181386767
I hope one day I can live up to Adachi's ideals!
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>>181386881
OPERATION
BABE
HUNT
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Futaba's VA looks like THAT?
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god damn, it's back
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>>181386856
because it's the Q&A at an expo

i've built a cringe tolerance, not an immunity
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>>181386881
Good
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>>181386919
Well, I mean, that's sorta what you're supposed to do with a waifu...
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>>181387067
I've never been to a convention nor have I watched one on stream until now. I guess I'll find out just how cringy it is.
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>>181386824
>that pic of Tae in the Shuujin uniform
Good stuff famdingo
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>>181386856
Q&As gives a lot of second hand embarrassment.
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>>181386128
I liked Makoto and Ann. Morgana's voiced by a girl and she's good. I'm still not sure how I feel about Futaba's English VA. Haru, I just don't like hers. She doesn't sound like a real person. Everybody else has a real person voice and she has an anime person voice.
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>>181387008
Dangerously thicc
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>>181386778
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>Futaba's VA is acting and screaming like an Autist
hhmmmm
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i dunno if i wanna watch this stream
i'm pretty susceptible to second-hand embarassment
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which VA's are there
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>>181387152
Morgana sounded too much like a middle-aged woman or worse, Ken, for my tastes. Too whiny and not enough Kitty.

Makoto was good for the most part. I couldn't buy her as Queen, though.

Anne, despite being da best girl, her English VA just couldn't do scenes that required lots of emotions. The start with Kamoshida especially.
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So everybody wears a mask in Shido's Palace... except Shido's cognition of Akechi. They probably just left it off because they wanted Cognitive Akechi to make a bunch of funny faces without a mask on. But still, the implications are kinda funny. Like, Shido is unsure of the motivations of literally everybody in the world... except Akechi. Akechi, who is trying to keep Shido from knowing his true self. Shido is 100% sure he's just a crazy nutball.
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>>181387391
All the party
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Are they cute
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fuck, marry, kill, ignore
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>>181387420
I felt Morgana and Makoto were really good. Ann fell rather flat pretty often though.

Ryuji and Yusuke were by far the best voiced party members.
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>>181387498
Futaba's VA looks like the opposite of Futaba
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>>181387498
>We need to cast a 60 lb 4 foot 6 girl
>Better hire a 7 foot tall square-shouldered dominatrix
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>>181387541
I'd say Ryuji and Akechi. Yusuke is just Matt Mercer, I can't unhear him.
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>>181387498
i've never fucking seen futaba's eng VA
is that really her?
no fucking way
i refuse to believe this
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>>181387541
Yusuke has fucking fantastic range. He was also Troy Baker's replacement as Kanji.
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Wait it's over already? Man that's one lame panel, I thought they'd do some Q&A at least.
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Mercer is so based.
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>>181387420
>Makoto was good for the most part. I couldn't buy her as Queen, though.
Really? I find the opposite, the ENG VA did a great job with her more aggressive moments but the JP VA fit the character more otherwise
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>>181387498
Are the two guys in the background also VAs, or just random staff?
Also, where's Makoto's VA?

>>181387541
Yusuke's VA was great, but some of his lines on the victory screen had some weird audio distortion, like the mic wasn't working properly.
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>>181387498
Kill Whores
Ignore plaid man
Marry badge boy
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>>181387654
huh? already??
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>Haru's VA dressed in her PT outfit

Cute
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>>181387498
>futaba VA
I might actually romance futaba next playthrough now...
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>>181387498
Is Futaba's VA even a woman?
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>>181387654
>>181387725
That was fucking lame. I was promised a Q&A that was going to make me cringe my ass off.
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>>181387654
I thought the definition of a panel was that there were questions asked.
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>>181387152
>Yusuke sounds 16-17
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Maken X was Hashino's ONLY good game
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>>181386824
Hoo boy, an anon that seems to want to stir shit says "Takemi, 7th most popular character, congrats!" Another anon asks for sauce and he posts a ranking of some kind.
Goro, Joker, and Makoto are top three with 160+ votes, akechi having 201 votes. Tae is 7th. Chihaya is dead last with 6 votes

Everyone is throwing away the virginity with Takemi
>I want to rock the Ferris wheel with her

I am a girl Sumimasen
I like the teacher's elegant sex appeal
Still cute and adore

Takemi is overwhelmingly loved, and nobody is talking about her plotline. Most discussion is about how short she is since she wears heels and is still a head shorter than you, or what kind of terms she'd use for the groin as a doctor to keep it non-ero. They were also discussing which foot is which during the medicine purchase scene, and they posted a pic of that ballerina spinning either clockwise or counter clockwise.

Next I'm going to look at Makoto and Sae's fans, any predictions?
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>The Official Persona 5 "Take Your Questions" Panel
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>>181387702
P5 in general had some really weird audio distortion. Some lines felt like they had horribly low bitrates. I initially thought it was my headphones, but some lines just are kinda crackly for some reason.
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>>181387498
Morgana's dress is like two sizes too small for her and she has tits of a 60 years old mother of three
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>>181387892
I especially felt it with the JP voice track
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>>181387847
Does that count as MegaTen like Catherine or is it it's own thing?
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>>181387654
>OH COME ON!
>DO YOUR JOB, MC!

>>181387676
I agree. JP Makoto sounds calmer and more dignified, which works better in regular scenes. EN Makoto nails her emotional scenes (anger, sadness, surprise, all of her flustered moments).
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>>181387839
You're responding to a guy who has a really deep voice. At 16-17, I sounded like Yusuke.
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>>181387887

That was the worst fucking thing I have ever seen in my life
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>>181386349
Dont have screenshot but basically she starts "giving him an anatomy lesson" by putting her hand on certain muscles and naming them as she goes. She winds up putting her hands on his dick and the screen fades to black.

It only happens if you constantly try to hit on her though, won't work if you go the "STOP THAT!" route
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mou, owari ka
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>>181387957
You probably didn't talk like you were 50 though
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>>181387654
>No Q&A
>only say some shitty food thing at the end

Fucking bullshit
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what if futaba's va sat on your lap
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>>181388028
it would be extremely painful
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>>181387858
Makoto's fans are in love with her class president antics and ignore her PT self

And I'm fairly certain Sae doesn't have fans.
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>>181387858
>chihaya dead last
With chihaya you get the best of fucking worlds
>mumumumu
Or
>Listen now, this here's a hold up
Who the FUCK wouldn't like that cutie
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>>181387984
I was talking about cadence. If you mean, like, vocabulary, that's just the writing.
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>>181387979
yep, that's it
that was fucking lame
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>>181388050
shes a big girl
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Oh, they are taking questions now
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>>181387935
it's it's own thing
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post your favourite
>game
>initial persona
>ultimate persona
>generic persona/shadow
>best girl
>best boy
>best velvet room assistant
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>>181388059
people who aren't into necrophilia
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>>181388212
EDGE! EDGE! UNDO!
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>>181388138
Outside the panel, what a shitty deal for those who queued for the panel.
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Morgana is not annoying.

Sometimes you legit need to fucking sleep, that's why you're so miserable IRL
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>>181388167
>P2
>Izanagi
>Apollo
>Jack Frost
>Anne
>Joker
>Elizabeth
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>>181388167
3
Arsene
Satanael
Pixie
Chihaya
Yusuke
Liz
>>181388212
Hey, fuck you guy
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>>181388312
shut up morgana
anne dono will never love you
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>>181375826
What Vice doesn't understand is that being women in Haru's and Makoto's positions actually takes a TON of agency and power away from them compared to men in comparable positions.

Makoto is subject to a liturgy of services to the school, society and her family that she has to fulfill, with no room for error and no time for herself. She's a permanent slave of everyone's expectations of her as a tool: Her sister only views her as a means of raising her own social status, the principal viewed her only as a tool to probe the student body, and everyone hated her for trying to meet these expectations and be a good person.

What Vice doesn't get is that success is a double edged sword in Japan, even when you're theoretically doing everything by the book. You're hated and envied in a way that is spiteful rather than admiration.
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>>181388312
Everyone forgets that P4 forced the same thing, it's just that it's a voice in Yu's head instead of a cat telling you to sleep. The only reason they even let you walk around in your room before going to the next story scene is to let you save, and maybe water your plant; P3 didn't give a fuck if you wanted to save, and just advanced to the next day.
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>>181388417
>Americans don't understand Japanese society but attempt to make it just like their own
Typical.
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>>181388417
Wtf i hate vice now
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For surviving the weekend
For Justice!
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>>181388167
>Persona 4
>Izanagi
>Artemis
>Maya
>Adachi
>Margaret
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>they asked a fujo question
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>>181388417
first one doesn't sound like a problem exclusive to women
second, that's what it looks like in every fucking country
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>>181387498
Futaba want snu snu
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>it's a "I wish X character was gay because gay = good" episode

Fuck these guys
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>>181388619
TELL ME WHAT QUESTION IS THAT
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>>181388619
Who do you think are watching this?

Think of something better to ask then.
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>>181388619
I am so, so fucking glad I closed the window

fuck that's such nuclear cringe I'm getting some second-hand cringe just reading that
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>>181388619
I turned that shit off as soon as that pink haired bitch opened her mouth.
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>>181388679
>"TELL US ABOUT THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE PROTAGONIST AND YUSUKE"
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>Be me
>Late 20s, work for police, benefits suck so dental is out of the question
>Because insurance is shit, I can't get my impacted wisdom tooth taken out so I have a rotten wisdom tooth with a huge jagged hole just sitting in my mouth
>Eat at a fantastic BBQ place
>Big chunk of meat gets stuck in the hole
>Notice an hour later
>Start trying to tongue it out, it's really stuck in there
>Each lick at it brings back the amazing flavor
>Get an erection as I ease up on my licks, savoring the taste
>Start masturbating in my seat
>Mouth still open from resampling the flavor of the meat stuck in my tooth
>Shoot my load straight into my mouth
>Now there's meat AND cum stuck in my bum tooth
>Get so tired of the whole thing that you throw some bitch into a TV

AMIRITE FELLAS
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>Your waifus are organic meatbags.
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ask them if they played a real SMT game like Maken X
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>>181388729
>>181388725
well now i'm just curious
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>>181388167
>5
>Izanagi, arsene is second place
>izanagi no okami
>Eligor
>Mitsuru, kawakami at second place
>DA MAN
>Lavenza
r8
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>>181388743
why exactly do they think that VAs know anything, especially western VAs
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> Ryuji canonically has a physical disability, which is significant representation of disabled people.
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>>181388847
The West is lost.
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Everybody likes to shit on Shido's Palace but I like it a lot.

Most underrated Palace, after the Bank.
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>>181388167
You're only supposed to do these when we're at the image limit
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>>181388417
Ideologues can only see and judge the world under their limited perspective. The thought that not everything is exactly how they were taught in their college courses will never cross their mind.
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>>181388417
>>181388480
Many criticisms of P5 miss the fact that ONE OF THE MAIN THEMES OF THE GAME is people being oppressed by society and it's expectations.
Some meet those expectations, moving Heaven and Earth to do so, at the cost of their own happiness and sense of self (Makoto, Sae).
Some fail to do so, or choose not, and are cast aside and lose their place in the world (Ryuji, Ann).
Some meet those expectations, but then lash out in other ways (or at least, USE it as an excuse) (Kamoshida, most Mementos targets).
It's more prevalent in Japanese culture, as 'the nail that sticks out gets hammered down', compared to more individualist cultures in the Western world.
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>>181388846
Western fanbases are retarded, anon. It's the same crap that happened with P4 with Kanji and Naoto.
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>the space palace theme is the shittiest of the palace themes
>yet I can't get it out of my head
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>>181388749
All the way up to line 8.
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why are you people getting so riled up

they're just asking for the VA's opinions on their characters it's really not a big deal
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>>181388976
I'll give it this: I can think of it off the top of my head. I can't do that with Futaba's Palace or Madarame's Palace.
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>>181388749
You're absolutely right Adachi
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>>181388950
but anon you can't be oppressed if you're heterosexual and male.
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>>181389056
As a fujo, I find is really embarrassing to ask a fujo related question to a voice actor/show runner.

This is Persona, not Yuri on Ice.
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>>181389063
>Futaba's Palace
u wot m8

that's one of the best themes in the game

I agree with madarame's being forgettable though
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You know who did a great English voice acting job nobody talks about?

Cheerful Host
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>>181388976
It's an incredible fitting theme for the palace, much more than most of them.
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>>181389056
Hi welcome to /pg/
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>>181388846
Yeah, I know VAs are given a run down of their characters, but they're not going to know these things as well as the Japanese VAs or the actual writers themselves.

>>181388906
The only problem with Shido's Palace is all the hallways with zero hiding spots. That, and the PT forcing boss fights to get the letters of recommendation. If we were just going to beat the crap out of the Shadows ANYWAY, then just let me walk up to them with Siegfried and Trumpeter and throw down already, don't waste time with the other stuff.
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Makoto alone makes this game almost unbearable. Literally everything since she joins the group is somehow twisted on its head so it can suck her dick. It's not subtle in the least, it's pathetically blatant that she was the developers' favourite girl, so she gets everything. She gets to prattle on about shadow weaknesses even though that's the navigator's job. She gets mountains of text in every scene. She gets the most plot relevence and every character constantly sucking her off and saying how fucked the group would be without her. In literally every scene. She gets forced shipping with Joker, during Futaba's story, during social events, hell even her social link forces Joker to act as her boyfriend because fuck you the developers will force you to like her. She gets the coolest persona. She gets major screentime before joining the party. She gets the best ultimate weapons. She gets physical damage, magic damage, status recovery, healing, and buffs because again, fuck you.

Worst of all, they turn other characters into retards so Makoto looks smart in comparison. Sae becomes a dumb bitch who abuses poor widdle Makoto. Morgana is useless and can't break into a Palace so she gets le badass moment. She sends Joker to bed early while she does Kaneshiro's calling card. Hell, all of Kaneshiro's Palace is just Makoto bitching at everyone and solving all the puzzles herself, while everyone gives her praise for being 'le awesome strategist'. Ryuji actively gets dumber as the story progresses, solely so she can tell him he's stupid and look smarter herself. Whenever any character has an insight about the plot, they get drowned out by Makoto's walls of text, and then everyone licks her feet and says how brilliant she is.

I am not doing another run after NG+, a first for a Persona game. Makoto ruins this game. She is way worse than Marie. She is the reason I will not buy the next P-Team title. This is shameful writing.
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>>181389186
Pft. That's not Tall Girl aka the only one that says Takamaki right.
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The makoto thread isn't that easy for me to understand. The op seems to have linked to a thread dedicated to complaining about Makoto, though. a lot of talk about the "believers" which I guess are the makotofags.

the main thread has some interesting things though:

a lot of people compare Makoto to Mitsuru, and they praise Mitsuru over her.
>Well, Mitsuru was overwhelmed with God characters w
>Intelligence · beauty · personality, which is so perfect, red purple hair is also the best

Another anon tries to show how Makoto is best for Joker, I think, by comparing all the other women. He posts this list:
Anzu · · · stupid
Kawakami · · · BBA
Sae ... BBA
Ohbara · · · BBA
Twin · · crime
Futaba · · weirdo
Spring ··· Unco
Takemi · · tuna
One two three-long fixed
Anzu is Ann, I'm not sure what BBA or tuna could mean, one two three is Hifumi, and I guess Spring is Haru like an anon in the last thread said, that explains haru shitposters in the Ann thread.

Another anon simple states that Makoto is right, for the right people.
Yet another anon seems to blame Makotofags for some drama in another character thread. People argue by saying that its just a few extremeists getting funny reactions out of people.
Someone else complains that you need charm to get her. Saying its too much of a challenge, calling it a joke.
Chihaya ... Redneck
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>>181389249
is this a copypasta
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>>181389186
Was he the one that sounded black?
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>>181389186
That's one you could say, but I think you're forgetting the real hidden star.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VlWrkWJu2c#t=1m20s
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>>181389219
I think the problem was how each puzzle involving mice was a fucking copypasta of the last and just tedious to get through
Funnily enough i didn't feel that way about space dungeon
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>>181388884
Maybe don't put so much stock in crappy clickbait articles.
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>>181389287
Yes
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Which characters would find the MXC courses a walk in the park?
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>>181389307
he's the one who said "Akechi-kun" like a sycophant
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>>181388976
Whims of Fate > Price > Ark > Pyramid > King, Queen, and Slave > Sweatshop > A Woman
Objective fact
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>>181389285
>Japan can't come up with reasons for liking Makoto so they make up reason to not date anyone else
>Implying being a little ditzy is a bad thing
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>>181389093
Nah you gotta be a white heterosexual male
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>>181389287
Yeah, it's been a while though.
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>>181389428
Nigga you close
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>>181389285
>Anzu · · · stupid

Third nuke when?
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>>181389373
I liked the mice puzzles, but that's because I never got dragged into a battle in mouse form. I hated the airlock puzzles, but ONLY because the game spawns enemies in weird spots, so you waste 30 seconds waiting for enemies to move before you can jump through the airlock if you don't want to get ambushed; they would be fine if the enemies only spawned AWAY from the airlocks themselves.
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I love Makoto!
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can we report the retard who keeps changing his name and trip to avoid filters or will i get in trouble for that
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>>181389287
No, just one anon's feelings on the matter.

Maybe I'm retarded, but I find myself cringing whenever Makoto talks or someone praises her for the millionth time because she's made to be the only smart and capable one on the team with zero character flaws. I'm sick of it. It's shitty writing, it's clear they failed to learn anything from the Marie debacle, and if this is a sign of things to come I'm cutting ties now because their next game is going to be a pile of shit unless they get their fucking act together and stop this Mary Sue garbage.
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Makoto VA confirms husbando is canonically Ryuji.
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>>181389610
>Maybe I'm retarded
You are.
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>>181389610
Dude, it's a fucking JRPG dating simulator. Don't expect much more than schlock.
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>>181389601
i reported him a few weeks back and his posts got deleted
it's worth a try
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>>181389287
Yes and theres some truth to it like most copypasta.
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>>181389701
FO' REAL?
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>>181389571
I do too
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>>181384882
I agree
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>>181389701
>caring about the opinion of the western VAs
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>>181389701
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>>181389706
How so? What, am I supposed to find it endearing that there's a big fucking neon sign in the game that says "DATE THIS BITCH"? Am I just supposed to accept that Joker's a dumb cuck who needs Makoto to do all the grown-up stuff? Fuck that, no other Persona game has a character this obnoxious forced on you so hard.
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Is there anyway to get Victory Cry in NG?

Can I get it from Network Fusion?
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>>181389285
>a lot of people compare Makoto to Mitsuru, and they praise Mitsuru over her

As they should
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>>181389817
>not asking her to say it again
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>>181389731
All I expect are likable characters and a protagonist who is cool and competent. Instead I get literal retards worshipping an exposition fairy who is constantly pushed as the main girl while the interesting characters get FUCKING NOTHING.
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>>181389934
I didn't actually even read your post. Or this one. Just, if you have to ask, you are.
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>>181389701
Aww.
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Marie is the bestest!
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Best girl coming through. Make way.
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>>181390153
Right you are, friendo!
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>>181390071
>All I expect are likable characters and a protagonist who is cool and competent
Then go play mainline SMT
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>>181389701
she must be a lurker
dammit you guys
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>>181389701
Makoto x Ryuji confirmed canon
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>>181390092
Go back to /v/.
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>>181389982
I want to get that Joker getting raped in the train doujin.
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>>181390071
Wait, which Persona game are you talking about? You'll have to be more specific.
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>>181390153
Are you the Mariefag that promised Anne smut over on /v/? I mean, it's hard to believe that there's two of you.
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>>181390158
But anon, she isn't best girl.

She's best woman
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>>181390153
>>181390160
>tfw I wanna bone Maire
Why does best girl have to be so hated?
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>>181387648
considering his range and how much work he takes on i have seen no evidence that matt mercer is not in fact a half-dozen slightly imperfect troy baker clones
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>>181389701
I wonder if I can pay her to say it in Makoto's voice.
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>>181390160
did you ever write that makoto fic
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>>181389249
I agree, Makoto is the canon girl
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>>181387648
>>181390258
I'm surprised that Matt Mercer hasn't become too big for weeb shit like Troy Baker by now
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>>181390185
I didn't read that.
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>>181390253

stupidjerkihateyousomuchohmygod
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>>181390258
Honestly you might be right
It's like how Yuri Lowenthal is a hivemind of 100 robots all with perfect vocal range.
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Which is worst
A dad that beats you and his wife and is an alcohol or a dad that leaves the wife right before the baby is born
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>>181390167
how about you play one tripfag
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Amazing how one character can trigger so many people
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>>181390228
>Another Mariefag

MASAKA

>>181390253
Pleb tastes, they want an idol drooling on their junk constantly and not actually have to get to know them
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>>181389934
>am I supposed to find it endearing that there's a big fucking neon sign in the game that says "DATE THIS BITCH"?
There was never a neon sign telling you to date anyone. Like Igor says, you are responsible for your own choices.

>Am I just supposed to accept that Joker's a dumb cuck who needs Makoto to do all the grown-up stuff?
I'm not sure what exactly you're getting at. Makoto is the advisor who does a lot of the thinking and strategizing, but last I checked:
Makoto doesn't make decisions on when the group meets up to tackle Palaces and Mementos targets.
Makoto doesn't handle procuring items and equipment for the PT.
Makoto doesn't have a series of contacts throughout Tokyo that she makes time to hang out with (outside of Joker himself), to learn a variety of skills that would benefit the PT during their activities.
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>>181390324
Mercer was always a massive weeb. He started off as a cosplayer. He used to do a lot of Sephiroth cosplay back in the day.
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>>181390308
But she's not the Lovers arcana and everyone knows that Lovers arcana = canon.
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>>181390362
The former.
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Futaba's VA and Ann's are the opposite of the characters.
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>>181390432
evading post filters is against the rules
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>>181390324
I'm pretty sure he likes doing it. He's not like Baker, or Bailey.
>ywn see Bailey as Risette again
>since Burch is on strike, P5A will have another poor imitation
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>>181390371
Amazing isn't it?
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>>181390362
The dad that leaves the mistress right before the baby is born but continues to come back several times to beat the mistress in front of the child, then later accidentally hits the kid with a golf club.
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>>181390432
But that's bullshit, you cheeky cunt
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>>181390345
i never liked lowenthal all that much, he's great in screaming/crazy roles but he's only got the one voice and usually doesn't have much of a chance to really flex his stuff

he's got that liam o'brien problem where he usually voices a billion bit parts in each game and his normal voice is just distinctive enough for it to get irritating
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>>181390495
they should just get Alexis Tipton, she did a fine job as Lucina
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>>181390432
Lovers is never canon. Aigis isn't Lovers and she's as canon as it gets other than Joker/Makoto
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>>181390447
So you're saying you'd rather eat fucking bread crumbs and SPAM every like a pussy instead of getting a good smack to the face each night but you get to eat macranoni and Tyson chicken nuggets (not the generic brand)?
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>>181390407
>He started off as a cosplayer. He used to do a lot of Sephiroth cosplay back in the day.
Yusuke cosplaying as Sephiroth
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>>181390362
>and is an alcohol
I'd say the former because that's terrifying
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>>181389982
>>181389982
Bump.
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>>181390530
>Every girl in P3 is canon due to unavoidable romance
>Rise wants Yu's dick hard
>Pic related
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>>181390345
Who won the lottery? I DID!!
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>>181390559
(u)
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>>181389610
>someone praises her for the millionth time because she's made to be the only smart and capable one on the team with zero character flaws
That happened one time after she joined the team.
I don't know where this meme started but I don't remember anyone praises her for the "millionth" time
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>>181389285
If the shit machine translation is annoying, I apologize. I thought that adlibbing what I see might be too presumptuous.

The Sae thread has people discussing what her age is. A LOT of requests for a romance route and a costume. Personally I think she should have had a costume instead of futaba, since you rarely see Futaba in dungeons anyways. The Sae thread seems to be divided between people who love her and people who like to troll the people who love her.

They refer to shadow sae as "shadow aunt" and one anon wants that costume to be her dlc so she can wear it while interrogating you.
>Sae's love experience is unlikely
Lots of mentions of a unicorn, either in her palace or just in general, one Anon offers a theory:
>The unicorn is because it is a lady who likes virginity
How old is my aunt
>Sae-chan is cute.
My sister is too serious and seriously cute (another anon tells him to watch it since makotofags are everywhere)
>I want to dress in blue and to rape
>I want to be banged saying "Mako suits you" to Ms. Sae who is a little red
>Persona Awakening is obviously a unicorn
My sister's Tekken looks to go down if I thrust about that costume
I think he meant Makoto would punch him if he messed with Saes shadow costume

One anon says "I want to be squeezed in total attack by Mr. Sae, Mr. Takeimi and Becky"
^ Response "Becky OUT Chihaya IN"

Sae "I want to get married!"
Holy Grail "It's no good. Its desire is beyond my power."

Sae Nijima Shibuya Date Venue Candidate Found


conclusion: virgin sae is a meme in japan.
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>>181390559
Aigis' relationship with the MC is just platonic though
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>Be cute waifu
>All the guys love me and think I'm great.
>have light periods and hot sweaty sex with my husbando every day
>tfw you get older every single day
>One day an old woman is looking back at me in the mirror
>Regret that I'm an organic meatbag
>See superiorly engineered mechanical lady who will be young and energetic forever
>Die
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>>181390639
Hold it!
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Perfect women aren't born, they're built
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>>181389701
I guess now we know who's doing the shitposting
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>>181390550
Lowenthal has at least three voices. His normal voice, his MC voice, and his Yosuke voice. All of which are distinctive enough for my tastes.
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>>181390559
Machines can't have sex, faggot.
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>>181390362
>>181390634
“It's unpleasantly like being drunk."
"What's so unpleasant about being drunk?"
"You ask a glass of water.”

Scary.

>>181390679
Honestly at this point I don't even know if /pg/ plays the same game. Like, it's all a big conspiracy and a bunch of us get games with entirely different scripts.
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>>181389701
>canon
When will this meme die?
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>>181390761
MC and Yosuke sound nearly identical in Q though
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>>181390781
>Honestly at this point I don't even know if /pg/ plays the same game. Like, it's all a big conspiracy and a bunch of us get games with entirely different scripts.

it's memes, anon
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>>181390821
This, man. EVERYTHING is canon you fuckers. Except for FeMC
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>>181390167
Fair enough.

>>181390217
Did MC or Yu ever get told to shut up and go home by one of their subordinates? No, because they weren't cucks like Joker.

>>181390329
Go back to /v/.

>>181390382
Makoto gets forced shipping with Joker during Futaba's arc, as well as the stalking, and he has to pretend to be her boyfriend. No other girl gets that. Ann gets a cutscene with no dialogue, Futaba gets fucking nothing, Haru gets fucking nothing.

Makoto decides how to send the Kaneshiro's calling card, she doesn't tell Joker her highly risky plan, and he goes home and is forced to sleep because he's a cuck who let's 'le strong badass womyn' handle everything.

Every time the PT take a shit, they all have to thank Makoto for showing them where the restroom is. Name one part in the game past Madarame (the last good part of the game) that isn't Makoto doing literally everything and chiding the other PT like she's their fucking parent.
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>>181390684
>^ Response "Becky OUT Chihaya IN"
Dis nigga
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>>181390821
Even if we got a solid answer from the creators, this meme will never end.
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>>181390719
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>>181390648
Joker isn't as much of an autistic as yusuke to stare at someone's back, only other choice is Slut for brains. If Haru was there it'd be different, boy i tell you what
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>>181386824
>>181387858
>>181386034
Did they say anything about Kawakami?
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>>181390871
I thought they sounded different enough.
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>>181390893
>Futaba gets fucking nothing, Haru gets fucking nothing.
Oh no.
He's retarded.
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The only canon waifu is your waifu!
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>makoto so smart am i rite guys
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>>181390945
>homosex giving poor Morgana nightmares
You monsters.
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>>181390874
Some people seem to actually believe it.

>>181390893
Not reading all that.

>>181391046
Sounds good to me. Choice is what matters.
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>>181390965
I'll check out the kawakami thread next.

One more thing about sae: there are a lot of jokes about how every time you make a new confidant, sae says something like "where did you learn to shoot a gun!?" And jokers response was "uhh, some kid at the arcade."
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Did you hear about the guy whose whole left side was cut off? He's all right now.
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>>181390893
>that isn't Makoto doing literally everything and chiding the other PT like she's their fucking parent.
Literally every part where Futaba's hacking was involved.
Futaba did like 70% of the whole ruse cruise
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>>181390718
Nice b8 m8
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>>181391046
I effin' love mai canon(in my heart) waifu!
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>>181390679
This happens literally every scene in the game.

She puts a USB stick in Sae's laptop and everyone congratulates her on being a super spy.

They all work together to trick Akechi but only Makoto gets praised and they say it was all her idea.

She's the one who tells them all they were set up with Okumura.

She's the one who figures out Mementos.

She's the one to figure out every plot twist.

She comes up with every plan even when it doesn't make sense for her character.

Find me one scene, I dare you. Find me one important scene where Makoto isn't given the most prominent and crucial role.
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>>181390871
I thought they sounded different enough. MC's had a more somber tone to his voice like he was tired or depressed. Yosuke had more cheery voice and high pitched voice
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>>181391032
not him but haru really did get nothing
at least futaba has that week after she recovers, but the only 'pushing' haru gets is being the default choice for culture day, and most people have already romanced someone by then
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>>181390362
The former, because they're taking an active negative roll in the family life.

In the later you can fill the gap with uncles or other male role models. It's not ideal, but it's better than getting your worldview fucked by twenty years of beatings.
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>>181391093
>Some people seem to actually believe it.

when people like that don't get replies they just samefag until they do

tale as old as time
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>>181391136
Did you hear about the good villians p3 had?
Me neither!
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But seriously, does anyone know if you can inherit Victory Cry from Network Fusion?
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Does Ann have feelings for Ryuiji?
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>>181390893
I'll bite. First off, Ann gets two entire animated cut scenes dedicated to her alone. No other character gets that kind of treatment. Second, pretending to be her boyfriend is her confidant and she clearly states that its to help her friend, not develop a relationship. Third, did you skip the entire summer section of the game? Futaba had literally all of the attention after her palace for 2-3 weeks straight. (I'm skimping the Haru part cause its true)
>The kaneshiro calling card meme again
Already explained why that was wrong last time, I'm not doing that again.
>Every time the PT take a shit, they all have to thank Makoto for showing them where the restroom is.
your not even trying with this one
>Name one part
The goro ruise cruise, again you might have skipped that part
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>>181391272
they're like brother and sister except they kiss sometimes
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>>181391286
Don't forget that Anne was featured in all of the marketing and is the only party member you need to max to get Satanael.
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>>181391272
No because she belongs to Morgana.
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>>181391248
I wasn't originally going to get a brain transplant, but then I changed my mind.
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>>181391376
Wait, do you not kiss your sister?
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>>181391245
What if mummy beats you herself then
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>>181391032
What do either of them get then?

I'm seeing a lot of "HURR U SO RETARDED" but nobody actually countering anything I'm saying. The sign of faggots who don't know what they're talking about.

>>181391093
Literally kill yourself.

>>181391172
But that doesn't matter because it was all Makoto's plan. She does nothing on her own.
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>>181391395
>he only party member you need to max to get Satanael.
as if that matters
like, why draw the distinction at party members? She's not the only girl
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>>181391246
It's really hard to tell. Like, I miss the days before Poe's Law loomed over our heads every second.

>>181391248
What about Timid Maya?
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>>181391272
Feelings of friendship. Sometimes he'll join Joker for a threesome.

>>181391479
It matters just as much as the bullshit the MakotoSue poster was spouting.
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>>181391471
No thanks

>>181391421
I feel like that one's a little too clever for Ikutski.
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>>181391553
>MMF threesomes

absolutely degenerate
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>>181391480
>Timid Maya
Who
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>>181391272
Do you have considerations of dropping your trip?
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>>181391586
Yesterday I accidentally swallowed some food coloring. The doctor says I'm OK, but I feel like I've dyed a little inside.
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>>181391620
this nigga
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>>181391471
>it was all makoto's plan
you keep saying that, but she never once claims that. She does say that certain parts were idea or doing, but she never once claims that the entire plan was her's
>She does nothing on her own
Talk to futaba after they explain the ruise cruise, then come back
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>>181391206
>congratulates her on being a super spy.
When she was spilling speghati over it of course the PT would pat her back and say good job she did her part after all.

>Makoto gets praised and they say it was all her idea.
Never happened, just because she explains the plan to Sae that doesn't make it her plan, Futaba literally said she had a plan after she hacked Goro's phone, it was both their plan.

>She's the one who figures out Mementos.
>She's the one to figure out every plot twist.
Surely you can provide some screenshots because I don't remember any of this
Morgana was the one who remembered who he was and how mementos came to exist

>She comes up with every plan even when it doesn't make sense for her character.
yes anon, a strategist coming up with plans that's out of character

>Find me one important scene where Makoto isn't given the most prominent and crucial role.
The ruse cruise was done 90% Futaba
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>>181391620
Sorry, I meant Cowardly Maya.
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I want Ohya to kiss me until my face is covered in lipstick!
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>>181391678
i'm not reading that shit but
>speghati
i'm fucking laughing like yukiko here
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>>181391649
O shit i played p3 too much forgive me, my memory's a little shot
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>>181391809
sure Jake
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>>181391471
>it was all Makoto's plan

Let me refresh your memory of what really happened.
After Futaba successfully hacked Goro's phone and knew he was the traitor. Makoto said "If goro wants to kill Joker..." Futaba then added "Then why don't we let him" and then Makoto replied "That's exactly what I was thinking"

It wasn't Makoto's plan it was both her's and Futaba.
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>>181391812
*snrk*
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>>181391395
Ah, yes, remember how Naoto's S. Link was necessary for Izanagi No Ookami? Man, how important that was. It really meant something.
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I just got past the part where they trick Akechi. Basically
>Morgana and Joker were the ones who caught on to Akechi being the traitor
>Futaba's the one who handled bugging his phone, both to record his conversations and when to pop him in and out of the universe.
>Makoto came up with the plan to trick him and handled logistics, like scoping out the Investigation Room beforehand to make sure their costumes didn't trigger

the rest didn't really do anything
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>>181391960
kek
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>>181391967
B-BUT MAKOTO!
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>>181388847
>Ryuji canonically has a physical disability, which is significant representation of disabled people.
Wanna tell me where this headline comes from?
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>>181391445
Well then that's a different question entirely then, isn't it?
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Kawakamifags on 2ch.
While the Sae thread has lots of trolling about how old and inexperienced she is, the Kawakami thread is nothing but love.

>Whew ...
Sadayo is the best girl
>This woman does not see a very happy future unless the joker is well controlled here! (With Chihaya voice)
Please call again. My husband (eyebrows)
>Lips are erotic
You again!
>I want to suck Sadayo's thumb on my thumb
I want to cross over [to the 2d world I assume]
>Perpetual lockpick can be made If it is tangle, is not it a piece of cake to work on a condom?
One anon stirs shit complainging about how she asks you to do some of the house work before she gets there. Another anon calls him trash.

Anons discuss how she is super popular in the west.
Professor Kawakami is a character like a picture of a woman who "will do everything for the man he loves". I am well convinced that overseas men who adore (her) are popular
The kawakamifags start discussing other waifus, noting Ohya's unpopularity. Another anon says her drinking habits are a turnoff but he does not hate Ohya.

Finally one anon ends the thread with the last post:

To say the least I want to get married
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>>181391875
I'd tell you a chemistry joke but I know I wouldn't get a reaction.
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>>181392047
>Sae thread has lots of trolling about how old and inexperienced she is, the Kawakami thread is nothing but love.

This is sad
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>>181391967
Well I mean they're the only useful memebers.
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>>181391967
So Yusuke, Ryuji, and Ann got shafted by Makoto like they always do after she joins. Thanks for proving that point.
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>>181392050
YOU, MOTHERFUCKER!!
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>>181392106
Yusuke Ryuji and Ann are dummies though, of course they wouldn't do anything.
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>>181392036
His leg is fucked up and he walks with a limp. Don't know if I would say it's a disability, more likely it's just still healing.
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>>181391809
I want to kiss her until she has trouble breathing.
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>>181392047
It's like pottery.
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>>181392106
I feel like this conversation is steering back into that special area of "plot relevance!" that some people really like to spend a lot of time in.
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>>181392047
>I am well convinced that overseas men who adore (her) are popular
y-yeah
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>>181392050
Why did the scientist install a knocker on his door? He wanted to win the No-bell prize!
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>>181392194
Wasnt my question, Im curious who wrote it because it wasn't anon.
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>>181392106
>Yusuke, Ryuji, and Ann
As if they're usefull in any situation out side of the meta verse
Only Futaba and Makoto are useful in real life
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>>181390684
>Sae Nijima Shibuya Date Venue Candidate Found
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>>181392106
>Yusuke, Ryuji, and Ann got shafted
Yusuke helped with Makoto and Futaba byt setting up the palace interrogation room
>Ryuji/Ann
Please tell me what those two dumbasses would do to help out? They already had all parts of the plan covered. All they had to do was stay incognito. Also you forgot Haru
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>>181392047
>I want to suck Sadayo's thumb on my thumb

How does that work?
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>>181392336
Morgana's useful in situations where you wouldn't want a human, like spying on Futaba or handing our calling cards
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>>181392047
Based Japanese Kawabros
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>>181390684
>another anon tells him to watch it since makotofags are everywhere

That nip is a wise man who knows who the true menace is.
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>>181391934
Oh, so Futaba gets the same idea but Makoto had it first so it literally doesn't matter and Makoto gets full credit for the whole shebang afterwards. Nice.

>>181391678
If you don't remember, play the game again.
>it's ok that she does everything because she 'le strategist'
That's garbage writing, you can't excuse Mary Sues like that.

>>181391657
I did, Futaba says that Makoto did everything. Pay attention next time. The only reason the plan worked is because Makoto not only came up with the plan, but also remembered to tie up cognitive Goro.

>>181391286
>two animated cutscenes
With no romantic or sexual implications. Futaba had the attention on her only because Makoto ordered everyone to help socialize her. Makoto dictates who goes with her when. Futaba is portrayed as weak and useless, Makoto is strong and smart and bosses around the dumb people.

>last time
The fuck are you talking about? How the fuck do you excuse the player having a day wasted while Joker does literally nothing except listen to Makoto order him to go home while she does important things.

The ruse cruise was all her plan, every character says so multiple times.
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>>181392176
False. Yusuke is wise.
>Does research on Medjed before entering a world fueled by Cognition
>Is the only one who thinks Okumura might be a setup
His WIS is just higher than his INT.
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CAN YOU GET VICTORY CRY IN NETWORK FUSION REEEEEEEE
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>>181392167
I wondered why the baseball was getting bigger. Then it hit me.
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>>181392516
>Makoto gets full credit for the whole shebang afterwards. Nice.
Literally never happened. you say play the game
but you're the one who needs to play it the most.
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>>181392569
He typed in Medjed on Wikipedia, lets not give him too much credit here.
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>>181392660
the point is that he's the only one who thought to
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>waahhh makoto this and makoto that I literally cannot go more than 5 minutes without raging on this character
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Mummy tummy.

>>181392724
What exactly did that do?
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>>181392750
t.makotofag
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>>181392516
>Joker stares at Anne for over twenty seconds
>No romantic implications
I would post the web.m but it's so long that it's too big for 4chan.
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>>181390893
>No other girl gets that.
You have to pretend to be Ohya's boyfriend once and she gets kind of annoyed if you aren't into her.
Futaba and Haru have some romantic undertones in their confidants, even before deciding to romance them.
Haru is the default option for one of the dates and is implied to have a crush on Joker in the main story itself.
Kawakami gets special lines in dates and the school festival one is entirely different from the others.
Unlike some other girls, Makoto brushes off a rejection like it was never meant to be a thing to begin with.
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>>181392724
we don't know that, he just basically starts text bombing everybody facts about the Egyptian god. Not that it was ever really of any use.
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>>181392516
>you can't excuse Mary Sues like that.
I can if she's this cute
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>>181392750
makes me want to post her more desu ne
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>>181392802
It's actually not too big.
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>>181392619
Wrong. Morgana and a couple others refer to it as "Makoto's plan" multiple times. You're either retarded, or you're lying. Either way, don't fucking accuse me of being wrong when you're speaking out of your ass you little nigger.
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>>181392791
Are you the world's smartest detective aka akechi goro?
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>>181392854
And she just smiles back at him like nothing. If I were to do that I'd get a weird look or a slap to the face
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>>181392783
It clued him in that things were related to Egypt.


>>181392854
Mine was a little bit longer on the ends, so I guess that's why.
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>>181392872
All I ask is one screen shot
if they've said it "multiple times" then it should be easy to post one of them at least
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>>181392106
Well, 'bad acting' and 'yelling loudly' aren't super useful skills for the ruse; they get their moments in other parts of the game. I recall Yusuke helping Makoto scope out the police station, likely because he has a better eye for perspective and detail.
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>>181392946
>It clued him in that things were related to Egypt.
While that's neat foreshadowing, it doesn't help them in any way.
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>>181392890
Haha you flatter me I'm actually adechi, akechi's biological brother
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>>181392516
You are actually talking out of your ass at this point. This is the last time I'm responding to your bait, so here we go.
>Futaba gets the same idea but Makoto had it first so it literally doesn't matter and Makoto gets full credit for the whole shebang afterwards
Neverhappened.jpg
>Mary Sue
*sigh*
>Futaba says that Makoto did everything
STOP. TALKING. OUT. OF. YOUR. ASS. its embarrassing
>No romantic implications
Annfags will give you entire essays about how that one scene alone proves shes the canon girl and how romantic the scene was
>Futaba got attention because of Makoto
Ok, so then what would have happened instead if she didn't suggest that they help her?
>last time, like 2 weeks ago we had a thread about the kaneshiro calling card I guess you weren't there for it. Besides that it was a minor plot detail that is nothing but a nitpick argument
>The ruse cruise was all her plan
I'm done arguing with a guy that can't understand what happens on screen
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>>181392802
>no words, he sees a pretty girl and makes eye contact for one second before she goes off to suck Kamoshida's dick

>this is supposed to stack up against a month of Makoto following you around, forcefully hugging you, and staring into your eyes soulfully after she gets rescued by you

You're fucking deluded.

>>181392824
Eh, even Marie was less obnoxious and way hotter.
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>>181392854
>Wow she looks just like my mom's fitness instructor!
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>>181392939
Anne is just happy someone is actually looking at her kindly for once.
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>>181393004
Doesn't it help them discover the keyword for her palace
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>>181393040
>even Marie was less obnoxious and way hotter.
>an OC doughnut steel is hotter than Makoto
Even for /pg/ that's gay
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>>181393174
No. They have to ask Futaba directly what she thinks of her room, and Futaba herself provides the word "tomb" I believe.
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Hey if this Anti-Makoto guy wants to argue that the game makes her the clear love interest I aint gonna argue
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>>181388950
THANK YOU
I've been discussing it with a friend and he thinks I'm weird for hating mid-late game Ryuji and thinking Makoto isn't half bad.
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Why don't some couples go to the gym? Because some relationships don't work out.
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Yusuke is ruining the game for me. I hate him so much, I can't even put it into words. That scene with him and the lobsters got me so angry I had to start fasting through it. It was a slap in the fake.

>BUT IT WAS SO FUNNY AND GREAT MAI HUSBANDO IS INTERESTED IN ART AND LOBSTERS SO KAWAII XD AND THEN HE GOT 3 NOTES WHEN I ASKED IF I SHOULD STRIP HA HA

Yusuke is a Garlic Soup. He doesn't have flaws. He has Hollywood flaws. He gains everything by being handy, then the game tries to sublime it by giving him a week and saying "Hey look, he's still human, he's a lonely starving autist!" But he isn't. He's a charismatic artist with an artistic side. He's not a character with flaws. He's Garlic Soup.
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>>181393040
>Ignoring the part where he stares at her for twenty fucking seconds
That's way longer than the "soulful gaze" you claim to see between Mako and Joker.

>>181393054
I understood that reference
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>>181393180
as overdesigned as she is, marie is definitely hotter
makoto is an eye color away from being a background character
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The male threads don't seem to be as interesting, so I'll combine them all into one post.

Ryujifags just discuss the game and his pages in the artbook, his voice actor, and the drama CD. They talk about his clothes and what the numbers mean, or something. They also note how kindness to his mother.

One anon complains about how th writing forces Ryuji into situations that make him look dumb/annoying. Here's what he has to say about the Haru arc:
>Morganana withdrawal, let me say that it is useless because it does not successfully encounter spring encounter
>There is a sense of being forced to do something like that ... subtle ...
>I wanted you to describe it better

huh, Ryujifags are pretty much the opposite of /pg/.

Mishima thread has an anon giving an alternate timeline where kamoshida calls Mishma to his office instead of Shiho. Mishima jumps off the roof later. Aside from that joke, most discussion is about comparing him to shiho, maybe they want them to switch places? They also discuss if mishima could be to blame for Shiho's rape, I think.

One anon apologizes to Mishima cause he's not popular. The thread's pretty short...
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I wish there was a Makoto version of this.
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>>181393004
If anything, it helped ME know that they were probably going to throw that bastard Anubis at me in the Palace. I think the Pyramid is where the Shadows best match the theme of the Palace.
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>>181393295
>I understood that reference

I'm glad someone did.
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>>181392854
It's funny because most nip impressions of this scene is that he was just shocked realizing she's a fucking gaijin and that Ann is 'nothing impressive' in terms of heroine status
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>>181393040
Do not slander my waifu in your autistic Mary Sue argument.
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>>181392971
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgJ1Ek1CxYg

13:30

there are other parts too
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>>181393291
It's been some time, hasn't it?
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>>181393330
>apologizes to mishima
It was probably mishima
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>>181393336
I mean, it's cool knowledge and a good scene. I'm just saying it didn't really have any sort of objective benefit to the PT.

I'm also not arguing that a character needs some sort of direct benefit like that to be a party member.
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A friend of mine tried to annoy me with bird puns, but I soon realized that toucan play at that game.
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>>181393336
Don't forget me, anon.
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>>181393362
This is why I usually post the song to go with it. I don't see how people could possibly interpret it that way with the music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDi4M3QcDKM
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>>181393330
what about yusuke
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>>181393180
Makoto has an ugly face, and no tits. Marie is cute and extremely fuckable. Physically, there's no contest.

>>181393295
You're literally hallucinating and seeing things that don't exist. Ann gets a 10 second cutscene and no dialogue compared to Makoto's multiple scenes spanning for weeks before she becomes involved in the plot.

>>181393365
The worst part is that Makoto could have been a decent character, I liked her in the trailers. But they fucked up and made Marie 2.0, only she's a much bigger problem than Marie ever was.
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someone give me a quick rundown of the current shitstorm
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>>181393593
wtf i love Marie now.
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>>181393625
Autism.
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>>181393625
makoto
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>>181393496
>Oh hey, Mot
>Good thing there's no Press Turns in this g-
*Ryuji gets turned into a mouse*
>MOTHERFUCKER!
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>>181393625
anti-makotofag is sperging out hard rn
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>>181393382
I'm literally 2 minutes away from 13:30 and theere no line that even indicates "LUL makoto you go girl you did this all alone"
All she did was investigating Sae's Palace which she knew she had one from the beginning
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>>181393336
It's not like banks, luxury cruisers, space stations and art museums have any particular attachment to any mythology
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>>181393625
People are buttmad that I pointed out Makoto's a shit character and the game would be better off without her.

I think everyone realizes that, they're just in denial.
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>>181393625
you remember those autistic antimakotofags that lasted about a month and a half after the game's release? One of 'em is back
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Did you hear about the guy who got hit in the head with a can of soda? He was lucky it was a soft drink.
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Thank god Ann isn't popular in nipland, where it actually matters. Feels great.
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>>181388943
Well but it just confuses me how they can claim to understand other cultures and then not understand the 'weight of the crown' sort of situation that Makoto is put into in Japan
>>181388637
Well consider a man in Makoto's position: being a dick, being a good guy, you could still be student council president.
If you're a guy, you don't have to do nearly as much in school to get into a top ranking uni. Particularly, you don't necessarily need a principal recommendation.
If you're a guy, what you say won't be used against you because YOU have the power of the student council (Look at Mob Psycho 100 for a sort of example of this)

You're right that women and men in positions of meritocratic prestige have to deal with huge expectations but the men are given a fair amount of power with that position where women are not given any usually in comparable positions.

A guy student council president could initiate a school-wide initiative, a female student council president is mostly just a tool for other people's agendas
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>>181393625
Gay
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>>181393625
People who hate Makoto raging again like always
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>>181393593
>10 seconds
The cutscene is over a minute
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Morgana got some work done
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>>181393593
>Makoto has an ugly face
no u
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>>181393704
And to be fair, they did have a number of 'knight' enemies in the castle, plus all the angels and Law-aligned demons (and Mara) during the endgame sequences.
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Now I ain't saying she's a gold digger
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>>181393625
It's "Makoto is a Maru Sue" kind of argument.
We literally in April now
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>>181393732
Nips have shit taste what else is new?
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Why are you guys still responding to this idiot? It's obvious he's not going to change his dumb opinions
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>>181393730
At least someone is bringing some humor to the thread.
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>>181393625
Makotofags starting shit and freaking out
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>>181393496
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>>181393741
>Look at some entirely fictional animu/manga for a sort of example of this
stopped reading
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>>181393732
Things will change, Anon. Anne will slowly become the most popular girl once I utilize the Metaverse Navigator in order to change everyone's heart.
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>>181393839
Have you ever tried to eat a clock? It's very time consuming.
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>>181393741
You say that but Mitsuru literally controlled the school in her day.
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>>181393951
Wyd I love An now
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>>181393730
You're doing god's work. It might not fix anything, but I don't mind as long as it's all in good pun.
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>>181393836
I love their 'shit taste,' it means Atlus will never pander to people with such mediocre taste like delusional Annfags who think she's 'canon'

Makoto and Futaba will get milked to hell and back in the spinoffs. Akechi will be soon too. Thanks based nips.
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Is Ikutsuki a better villain than Goro?
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>>181394013
Mitsuru's family fucking owned the island the school was built on
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>>181393951
>I'm so envious I wish I could say the same
Haru already has nice tits what more does she want
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>>181393838
He's already moved goalposts once or twice, it's just not obvious because the replies don't line up to provide a cohesive trail of discussion.
I give him credit, most of the time when someone argues 'Makoto is Mary Sue', they point out her flaws to argue she actually sucks... which just invalidates their initial 'Mary Sue' argument to begin with.
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>>181393791
Is Joker nekkid?
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>>181394013
Because her family literally owned the school.
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>>181394081
No, but he is better than Adachi.
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>>181393836
You wouldn't be saying that if they were agreeing with you, would you, you hypocrite?
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>>181393878
>things that never happened,jpeg
I sense a common theme here with antimakotofags, they all rage at thing that never happened
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>>181394013
Because she literally owns the school. Makoto doesn't.
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>>181394013
It's more easier when you are a rich, and your family builded the fucking school you attend, m8
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>>181393951
>Ann is only good for her tits XD
We know Atlus
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>>181394076
I haven't seen a single person claim Ann is canon in this thread. Your hate seems unwarranted.
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>>181394076
i wish P5 had better characters for them to inevitably milk desu
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>>181393659
Good, she deserves more love really, it's not her fault that Atlus went full retard and shoved her down our throats.

>>181393695
Get to 13:30, that's the conversation where Morgana straight-up says it was all Makoto's plan. Really embarrassing since Ryuji starts talking about something that only he/Joker/Ann experienced, how easy it is to enter the Metaverse, which is crucial to the plan, but nope, the writers make a point of saying they contributed nothing and it was all Makoto's idea somehow.

>>181393723
Good to hear I'm not alone.

>>181393780
With NO dialogue from either Joker or Ann. And Ann gets absolutely nothing after that.

>>181393796
She's grossly pale, red eyes are creepy, and her hair is laughably bad. She looks like an albino nerd.
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>>181394125
Always.
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>>181394069
I'm reading a book about anti-gravity. It's impossible to put down.
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>>181393890
Fair point.
If you want a general example of how men and women are treated differently in Japan, there's a 'proper' set of speech for men and women respectively. It's literally baked into how YOU talk, not like some bullshit about how you refer to others
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>>181394159
So if Makoto did own the school then it's ok for her?
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>>181394141
You take that back you piece of shit or ill kill you.
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>Anne is sweaty!
>Anne is buxom!
>Anne is beautiful!
>Anne is happy!
>Anne is wet!
>Anne is cute!
>Anne is flexible!
>Anne is an angel!
>Anne is lewd!
>Anne is sad!
>Anne is silly!
>Anne is for kisses!
>Anne is stylish!
>Anne is for sexual!
>Anne is awesome!
>Anne is sultry!
>Anne is pure!
>Anne is amused!
>Anne is quality!
>Anne is Lovers!
>Anne is canon!
>Anne is an apricot!
>Anne is an actress!
>Anne is a model!
>Anne is Santa Claus!
>Anne is Anne, not Ann!
>Anne is best girl!
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>>181394203
>>181394262
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>>181394262
is there anything Anne isn't?
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>>181394302
pottery
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>>181393625
I don't know anon just ignore the shitposters, 2ch seems to do it well.
>>181393559

The Yusuke thread is like the ryuji thread, minimal shitposting and everyone is just talking about what they like about yusuke. A lot of anons say they like his weird personality, even though at first they didn't. There might have been a different expectation before the game was out, and they're pleasantly surprised at his "handsome personality". One anon says Yusuke changed him, improving his view on the world or something.

One anon notes how the best complement he gives is that you're his biggest inspiration in art, showing how much Yusuke loves art. He questions if yusuke even cared about the thread Yaldy presented to them in the final battle.
Another anon says that yusuke's, while being addled with some serious grief, still has funny lines like asking Ann if she gained weight. And I agree. He's deep, but aloof, meticulous, but also oblivious.

The thread is huge and each post has a few lines so I take it Yusuke fans are the best.
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>>181394219
>Marie is good
>Makoto is bad
The shit these guys say
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>>181393695
actually Makoto investigated after they entered Sae's Palace the first time. They obviously didn't have the phone call recording of Akechi at the time they first went in because Futaba had bugged his phone shortly before entering.
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>>181394317
Not shit
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>>181394317
Pure
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>>181394147
You're freaking out right now aren't you? I don't even know you all are arguing about, you probably need to grow some thicker skin though.
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>>181394317
canon :^)
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>>181394317
Empress, the patrician's Arcana.
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>>181394479
haru a shit
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>>181394219
>Anne gets nothing after that

>>181390648 proves you wrong. I believe this is the part where I tell you to go fuck yourself.
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The experienced carpenter really nailed it, but the new guy screwed everything up.
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>>181394442
>I don't even know you all are arguing about
>but let me blame makotofags without knowing what's going on.
you need to grow brain cells
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>>181394350
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>>181390648
Joker wanted to stare at Makoto but he was too embarrassed.
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In a few seconds, you're going to forget /pg/ and Persona ever existed. Everyone will be better off.
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>>181394317
Anything bad, really.
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What would Kazuchika Okada's persona be?
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>>181394238
I wasn't involved in this discussion, I was just pointing out that Makoto has less influence than Mitsuru because she doesn't own the school.
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>>181394657
thank god
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>>181394657
Thanks anon
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>>181394537
Funnily enough, that's the last time Ann is relevant to anything.
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>>181394657
Please don't.
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>>181394203
Well, this one counts too >>181390648
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>>181394367
I never said she's good, I said she's underrated and worse than Makoto.

>>181394537
Again, no dialogue, no romantic implications. Looking at someone's tits doesn't imply you want a relationship with them. All the "shipping moments" with Ann only emphasize that she's hot, the shipping moments with Makoto emphasize that she's dependent on Joker, that she's cute and easily startled, and all sorts of other waifubait crap despite that not fitting her character at all.
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>>181394350
How about Harufags?

>>181394203
Annfags used to be alright, civil even.

But now all you fags do is post that singular webm of the only 'material' you have ingame for your mediocre romance route and it makes me can't wait to see Atlus blow you out when they push Makoto even more with Joker and leave Ann for Ryuji like most of the game.
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Shiho deserves better
Shiho will always be number one in my eyes!
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>>181394630
>This level of delusion
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A man just assaulted me with milk, cream and butter. How dairy.
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>>181394350
Nice Kawakami, Tae, and Yusuke threads. My niggas.
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>>181394756
what's a Harufag?
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>>181394739
I want to forget Marie was ever a part of Persona 4.
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>>181394729
that's not true, she has that scene in Shido's Palace where she pretends to be Ann Windsor
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>>181394756
I bet it just goes on and on about how she wants the J.
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>>181394759
She made her best friend whore herself out, then tried to kill herself knowing that other people were suffering with Kamoshida and she could have put him away. Nah, she's a selfish bitch.
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>>181394754
>No romantic implications
It implies he wants to look at her sweaty breasts. There's no romantic implications, but it sure says a lot about regardless.
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>>181394756
Probably one of the biggest strawmans I've ever seen, but I'd hesitate to even call it that since you seem to just hate people who like Ann for some reason. It's okay.
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>>181394832
Then play the vanilla experience until the end of your times.
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I hate everyone
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>>181394756
That is the first time I've posted that webm since June 11th I just looked it up in the archives. I only fucking posted it because somebody else mentioned it.
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>>181394832
you wanna stop changing trips?
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>>181394558
>Makotofag still freaking out
Guess I was right.
>>
A prisoner's favorite punctuation mark is the period. It marks the end of his sentence.
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>>181394915
>>181394935
>all this defensive
Just deal with the fact that you, like other waifufags, are cancer killing this general even more every day
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I love everyone
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>>181394970
And you're still a retard
I guess I was right too
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>>181394759
Sorry, Shiho m
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>>181394918
>vanilla experience
>implying
if you dont do the Adachi route then i dont know whats wrong with you.
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>>181395047
Sorry you feel that way.
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>>181395059
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>>181395047
Nah.
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>>181394920
we know YHVH
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>>181395059
Everyone? even aidsposter?
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>>181394993
You should end your routine right now because the quality of the puns is falling
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>>181395047
These threads wouldn't even exist if not for waifufags. The entire fucking thread has been arguing about Makoto and if other girls got "pushed" as hard as she did.
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So what 'fujo question' did they ask the voice actors at AX?
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WAIFU POST THE SHITPOSTERS AWAY /PG/!
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>this somehow looks better than P5's models
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>>181394915
>since you seem to just hate people who like [girl] for some reason. It's okay.
Anti waifufags in a nutshell

>>181394970
Hoo boi, i missed the anons who are always right with every thing they say.
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>>181395214
Ok
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>>181395217
it really doesn't
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>>181395118
I guess there are one or two exceptions.
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>>181395185
opinions about Joker x Yusuke.
was this directed to Mercer?
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>>181395185
They asked what was the relationship between Yusuke and Joker.
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>>181395179
>These threads wouldn't even exist if not for waifufag
>implying this is not good
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>>181395214
Sure I can help with that.
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Victory Cry from Network Fusion?
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>>181395214
This is how we save /pg/
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I love Misaka Makoto
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>>181395262
yes it does you P-cuck
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>>181395159
One more.
Why don't programmers like nature? It has too many bugs.
It was me all along
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>>181395285
>>181395295
Cringeworthy. I was expecting someone to ask about Akechi/Joker first though.
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>>181395068
As long as your happy ann...
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>>181395214
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>>181395390
i dunno, the face hits the uncanny valley riiight there
>P-cuck
what
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>>181395214
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>Someone has a bigger Ikutsuki folder than me
>He even has better puns than me
>>181395395
>It was Labrysfag
Now THAT'S executable.
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The hifumifags are obsessed with her, almost all discussion is about her dates and how she'd be as a playable character. I'm noticing the waifu threads have short, simple posts, while the male threads are full of discussion. Maybe /pg/ needs to split into character threads for the greater good.

Eternal, Chaos, Yakura
>When Hifumi became a party ... ('; ω; `)
It looks like a main character (other anons mention how she might be playable later)
>What a waste
It is OK even if you can take a turn in a sequel
>I was planning to go through but I bought it for this girl. It was a good decision.
One anon gives a quick rundown on hifumi:
Bishoujo
Military bishoujo
Pretty girls chuuni
Dad feeling
It's not only Gura but also good voice
>Hifumi, 真, Takemi
>This is an iron plate
(I don't know who the middle one is supposed to be, he just wrote "true"?)
>Can you be a lover before a school trip? (I am also wondering if you can date her in hawaii...)
Lots of complains of not having enough places to take her, especially in the daytime
>It would be fun if Hifumi was a navi. I'd like Navi to select one additional person.
I want to tramp over Togo Kingdom with my Excalibur

One anon posts a long speech Hifumi would say while playing, and the church people sigh and go "here we go again"
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>>181395285
>>181395295
The western audience is aids
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>>181394912
He wants to fuck Ann. But he wants to protect Makoto and obey everything she demands.

Annfags got cucked hard.
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>>181395214
Its the only way to salvation
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>>181395528
Was he supposed to just let her get crushed by the falling debris?
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>>181395214
Waifu incoming!
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>>181395214
I WISH YOU WOULD STEP BACK FROM THAT LEDGE MY FRIEND
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>>181395509
Puns.exe
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>>181395217
That unironically does not
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>>181395528
I don't feel very cucked.
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>>181395512
>When Hifumi became a party
>(other anons mention how she might be playable later)
>It is OK even if you can take a turn in a sequel
Hifumifags are the same even in japan it seems
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>>181395512
真 is makoto
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>>181395578
He was supposed to save her without eyefucking her.

Even better he could have saved another party member who hasn't been the main focus of the story for two fucking months at that point.
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>>181395528
>Makoto is the wife
>Anne is the mistress
In this scenario Makoto is the cuckquean
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>>181395578
THE WRITERS FORCED THE THAT DEBRIS TO GET A MAKOTO X JOKER MOMENT
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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C U T E
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>>181395512
>I want to tramp over Togo Kingdom with my Excalibur
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>>181395605
This reminds me of my favorite game life is strange lol
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>>181395214
This thread needs some fluff
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>>181395512
How did you go this long without knowing their names in moon? 真 is Makoto. 杏 is Ann. 春 is Haru. 双葉 is Futaba.
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>>181395214
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>>181395472
Personacuck
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>>181385272
So 2ch still has hope about Goro? Interesting
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>>181395775
Ann's is the only one I know and I doubt I'll remember these.
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>>181395775
>Futaba have 2 japanese letters in her name
SHE IS THE ONE, GUYS!!
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>>181395829
y-you too
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>>181385272
what about this Goro?
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>>181395578
They deliberately chose for Joker to save Makoto who has been pushed pretty hard for the last month or so. It's just pandering, showing their bias towards Makoto. Not the first time, it happened, not the last.

I'm not sure what's worst: the Anti-Makotofags who use her moments to push the Mary Sue agenda or the Makotofags in denial that she's clearly favored by the devs to detract said argument.
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>>181395768
That's some sexy floof. How would Haru look with black hair? Anyone shopped that?
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>>181395974
I'm pretty sure he's the most popular character in the Yakuza series
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>>181396001
jesus you guys are lame, just enjoy the game instead of waifu politics
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I can post cute pictures of my wife too
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>>181395974
And this Goro?
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>>181396116
>just enjoy the game instead of waifu politics
i laughed
are you new here?
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>>181396001
I'm not a Makotofag but it doesn't really bother me. This supposed Makoto shilling you keep talking about ends after that scene anyway.
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Can we have comfy /pg/ back now?
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>>181396116
>talk about the game
>shitposting ensues
>talk about waifus
>shitposting ensues
Wonder what he meant by this
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i agree they laid makoto on probably thicker than the other characters but i mostly rolled my eyes when it happened and it's not like there was any railroading, the choice was still mine
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If you're not a makotofag just be grateful you don't have to endure this everyday wherever you go.
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Quick! To the dumpster!
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>>181395886
haha nope

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fC5_nNJY_8g
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>>181396248
Hol up, I need to put this one back where she belongs also. Leave the lid open.
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I want little Joker and Reiji to eat Christmas cake on December 27th!
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>>181396293
wow /smtg/-senpai, you really are autistic
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>>181396001
Overall the anti-Makotofags are the worst, if we count the previous months.

Right now is 50 - 50, maybe with Makotofags winning (losing) in this competence
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>>181396359
what if he's both?
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>>181396143
I agree
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>>181396325
Kawakami would be happy.
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>>181396239
Makotofags are the ones ruining this thread
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>>181396375
>Right now is 50 - 50, maybe with Makotofags winning (losing) in this competence
who gives a shit
why are you even making a competition out of this
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>>181396375
t. Ryuji
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>>181396436
If for some reason it becomes a reality, I'll have that commissioned. The Reiji-Joker Christmas cake thing that is.
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>>181396460
Yes makotofags are the devil, and antimakotofags are angels
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>>181396248
Their positions should be reverse
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>>181396460
This, posting anything related to her instantly ruins a perfectly good general. Highly recommend outright banning Makoto. Censor the name too in case it's necessary, something like M----o.
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>>181396061
>Mishima gives intel on a target who hangs out at the Maid Cafe
>Makoto is forced to work undercover
>she keeps the job because the customers don't get really angry when she makes mistakes, not like how her big sister does when she screws up a meal
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>>181396594
It's just a shitty pairing between then just because Ryuji saved goro from his fans in the manga
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Makotofag here

Give me all your hatred
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>Makotofags vs Annfags are the new Aigisfags vs Yukarifags
>Aigisfags and Yukarfags have become civil and threads become comfy when P3 is involved
Really summons my Personas
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>>181396593
>Makotofags keep harping on about how she was pushed (when in reality every girl was pushed at some point) making her better then trying to shit on everyone else for picking someone other than her.

Makotofags can fuck off.
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>>181396594
No, the only trash character in P5 is Goro. Ryuji's doing his duty to the PTs.
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>>181396669
I love you makotobro
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>>181396674
Can't wait for Persona 7 so the shitters can finally move to the new waifubaits.
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>>181396674
It's not even just annfags, everyone's just tired of their elitist bullshit
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>>181396706

>>181396631
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>>181396631
What
Why is goto even there his text makes this retarded
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>>181396669
this victim angle you're trying to push won't really help the situation
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>>181395369
NOT FUCKING LIKELY, NOW STOP ASKING!
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I honestly don't get why people get so upset about Makoto, but then again I'm a Harufag so I suppose all I can do is watch as people get into progressively pettier fights.
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>>181395775
thanks anon.


I'm scared to look at the haru thread, because I have no idea what to expect. Saefags and Annfags get trolled, Kawakami and Hifumi have no haters. The male threads are just bro-tier discussion, though I havn't seen morgana, I assume they like him. They fucking LOVE Goro, like he's the top character. Anyways...

I expected japan to hate Futaba because she's the equivalent of a meme spouting tumblr girl for the west. Boy was I wrong, they LOVE Futaba too.

Futaba is angel
>Futaba is so cute (he states no other game had a girl as cute as her)
I think that the attic is too far away and the attic will be renovated to Futaba laboratory
>I wonder if I study cognitive science. Although Mementos disappeared
I slept in the hero's room (meaning shallow) The only woman, Futaba
^this guy's forgetting kawakami slept there too
>Shadow Futaba costume is also the best, I wonder if it is transparent
I want to see Futaba's plain clothes skirt ...
>Oh yeah, this girl becomes a beauty when she grows up
Anon posts 2 pics, reaction when you ask to touch futaba for 10,000 yen, and then when you ask for 100,000 yen.
>I was crying because she was crying
Some anon posts a girl, I guess she's supposed to look like Futaba http://i.imgur.com/3mwjITH.jpg
>When a joker fails to survive and trick in a lover's state, the dark fall of futaba is awful
^I think he's referring to her crying if you didn't pick her on valentines and she catches you?
There are a lot of posts of people imagining scenarios of them being with futaba, in the different seasons, in the attic, in school, etc. It's pretty sad.

I have to mention it now since its the third time I've seen it, but some anon keeps posting links to porn videos but they don't load for me. I assume they're meant to be webcam videos where the girl happens to look like whoever the thread is about.
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>Makotofags attention whoring again
Just fucking leave, make a containment reddit for yourselves.
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>>181396765
Are you ESL?
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>>181396686
Yes let's forgot about what happened earlier in this thread and focus on the couple of posts that say she was pushed
You're clearly not biased
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>>181396735
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>>181396706
Of exposing them to bystanders by loudly talking about their status as Phantom Thieves?
Or just using the metaverse app whenever the idea pops into his head to use it with no regard for whoever is around?

Or for being the 'first attacker' despite having the lowest Speed in the game

Or for being an asshole to people he meets for the first time, making the ability to probe for information nigh impossible from that point on
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Be straight with me bros. Did Shiho get raped or probably just some bj thing? I felt sorry for her.
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>>181396801
>I expected japan to hate Futaba

Do you live under a fucking rock? She's extremely popular in Japan.
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you want hatred
come get some
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>>181396805
>anti makotofags can't live for 10 minutes without talking about makoto
you can go back to /v/ that's where the anti makotofags usually circlejerk
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>>181396805
there is one

but it's dead as fuck
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Someone post a vocaroo to save us from this shitposting!
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>>181396876
I mean I expected a lot more trolling at least, but there wasn't any that I could find.
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>>181396765
it's basically shitting on Goro's character.

It makes sense, don't know how to explain it to you if you don't get it.
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>>181396839
>Hank Hill ass
lmao
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>>181396812
Everybody was pushed, trying to shittalk everyone else because they like someone other than X girl is fucking stupid.

I don't give a shit who's doing it, but Makotofags are the ones that do it the most often and trying to push this canon bullshit. Stop fucking posting
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>>181396875
Kamoshida didn't say he raped her once he confessed everything, he just said "sexually harassed"
Take it as you will
>>
sasuga P-cucks
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>be anti-makotofag
>get triggerd everyday by the slight mention of her name
>I must do something about this
>Make a post claiming Makoto is a mary sue and completely ruins the game
>get btfo by evidence
>moves the goalpost
>still gets btfo'd
>muh makotofags ruin /pg/
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>>181396907
They're not anti-makoto, their anti-makotofags.
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>>181396909
jesus christ, there actually is
yuck
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>>181396674
This is gonna happen for Persona 6,7,8 and so on until this series is finally put down.(Whenever that is). It's an endless cycle of cancer
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>>181396801
>I expected japan to hate Futaba because she's the equivalent of a meme spouting tumblr girl for the west
You think Japan doesn't have memes and NEETs as waifus? You don't think localizations keep everything as is, right?
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>>181396885
Refer to acceptable memes list, then GTFO you sick fucker.
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>>181396909
They should go back there then to make it lively with all two people that'd lurk there, instead of shitting up a perfectly good general.

Example, this shitpost: >>181397012
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>>181396909
>>181397023
every girl has a subreddit
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>>181397012
>>181396907
Holy shit you are upset.
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>>181397059
>shitting up a perfectly good general.
That's a good joke anon
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>>181389285
>Twin · · crime
what did he mean by this? Good thing I like Lavenza
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Let us have a healthy discussion about best girl
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>>181396958
>but Makotofags are the ones that do it the most often and trying to push this canon bullshit
Not so much here, compared to Ann, Futaba, and sometime Kawakamifags, too.
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>>181397079
We're not the same person if that's why you're implying
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>>181396854
>Or for being the 'first attacker' despite having the lowest Speed in the game
Do you mean story wise, or gameplay wise? In regular battles, turn order is based on agility, but in boss fights it's based on party order.
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>>181397151
>played P3 four times now
>forget to hang out with liz all four times
bad feel
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>>181397151
only P5fags are here man
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>>181397079
>upset
no man I'm actually pretty happy rn. It's pretty funny watching so many anons get mad over her
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>>181396961
Yeah, but to throw yourself off a building seems more like rape. I dunno, I just want to believe she's not soiled.
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>>181397015
That's a lie and you know it
when antimakotofags attack they most of the time attack makoto herself and not her fanbase
>>
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>>181396854
>Of exposing them to bystanders by loudly talking about their status as Phantom Thieves?
They all do it all the time. Specially when their base is Shibuya. They all talk loudly and proudly about taking down Kaneshiro as the Phantom Thieves.
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>>181397160
No one here tries to push anyone as canon. The fact that you even said Kawakamifags makes me want to disregard your post entirely, since the entire thread, including them, regularly points out she will never be canon due to not being a party member.
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>tfw miss Akechifags
The fujos are gone now and ironically the waifufags are more cancerous. Atleast they didn't fight over 'canon'
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>>181397228
The fuck is wrong with you, Anon?
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>>181397160
That argument was awful and you should feel awful for typing that mess. The one Kawakamifag that lurks here never tries to push a canon meme, the others know better than to try to say a headcanon is actually canon.
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got this from 2ch, bless harufags
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>>181397254
that's how they attack the fanbase duh
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Who would win in a fight, Kawakami or Itsuki?
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>>181396958
You've never been to /v/?
Annfags there are literally the worst
when you see an Ann thread there just lurk and then tell me who's doing the "canon" bullshit more than the other
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>>181397151
I was pretty disappointed that MC didn't fuck her in the movies. I waited years for that moment, but it sadly never came
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>>181396854
Plz don't rply to muh again til you lurn guud n proper engrish mang.
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>>181397307
i-i'll do it eventually
i just forget man, she doesn't even have a real slink
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>>181397334
>they're not anti makoto but they shit on her just to get on her fanbase
I don't see any logic behind this
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>>181397353
Who cares about /v/?
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>>181397254
Quit white knighting an anime character you fucking ridiculous beta, you're spreading secondhand embarrassment to every Makotofag lurking.
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>>181397160
>Not so much here
because we bullied most of them away
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>>181397228
I'm dissapointed, fellow lizbro
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>>181397160
The Ann guy who ritual posts does it as a joke.

You realize he also calls her Santa? Where's your autistic arguement about how she isn't actually Santa Claus?
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>>181397353
It's funny because Annfags only became cancerous recently, they never had much of a presence before trying to shove 'evidence' down people's throats. I guess to make up for what Ann completely lacks in story and in her confidant desu.
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>>181397289
>Akechifags
What are you, a newfag?
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>>181397443
You can't stop me idiot
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>>181397470
because i know she isn't real?
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>>181397353
Of course I don't go on /v/. Lmao who the fuck goes on /v/?
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>>181397394
That means you can be honest with her! You don't have to worry about optimal choices or any shit like that!
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>You've never been to /v/?
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>>181397443
>Quit white knighting an anime character
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>>181397521
I was here for the Goropalypse, so nah.

Was just saying fujos barely post here and the threads suck even more than when they did.
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>>181397289
Groofags never left. Just stayed out of the Grooshitposting.
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What if instead of new abilities via slink we have most of the primary game functions stripped away and available only through slink
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>>181397540
I-i lurked /v/ during april's because i forgot about the existence of /pg/
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>>181397443
>Quit white knighting your waifu
>on 4chan of all places
And people tell me I'm a normalfag.
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>>181397697
>forgetting /pg/
we're the only circlejerk u need, bby
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>>181396293
the only good Meguro OST
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>>181397718
There's a reasonable extent, and that's been long passed with this goofy fucker.
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>>181397289
I'm still here, anon.
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>>181397012
I made the original post criticizing Makoto, and it's clear that a lot of people agree with me. I haven't been proven wrong about anything at all, in fact I provided evidence to those who asked for it.

Makotofags must be really pathetic if a few people thinking she was written poorly is this upsetting to you.
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>>181397801
>There's a reasonable extent
>on 4chan
Is this your first year here?
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>>181397813
now go away
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>>181397828
>n fact I provided evidence to those who asked for it.
You're evidence is "it happened in my mind so it's true"
I just didn't want to drag this stupid conversation any longer with you so I dropped it
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>>181397889
No.
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>>181397867
If everyone was treated as potentially homicidal, most of the -fags likely would've already killed themselves at some point before entering the thread.
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>>181397205
Gameplay wise.
And story wise: assuming you don't do his confidant, he does nothing and shows very little that he's agile or fast, just that he once was.

He's even more useless in the story than Morgana, whom he constantly belittles.

The difference is that when Morgana belittles Ryuji, it's for actual things Ryuji does. When Morgana gets belittle by Ryuji, particularly on the 'useless' note, there is nothing to indicate that Morgana is any more or less useful than Ann or Ryuji in the story
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I'm playing P5 now with the English VAs but I can't stop imagining Futaba as a big fat hambeast
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the haru thread is pretty boring, they aren't that obsessed with her. More like they accept her perfection without being crazy.

cute
Breasts big
Personality Interesting
A bit jealous
strong
Lady
Fell in love with the joker

True is driving as an animation part, but in Mementos it is Joker's driving in terms of conversation content? I wonder how I get on that car seven people, but I wonder who's sitting in the passenger seat Personally, Haru is good but Futaba is sitting with a navigator ... Akechi is not a friend

Joker × Haru


a lot of anons talk about her mementos quotes, and they share screenshots. I guess that's all the characterization you get with haru. One guy mentions the funny exchange with Ann when she comments on her big boobs bouncing all over.

I think the general threads will have more interesting stuff, so I'm going to look there.
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>>181398013
That would be a more realistic interpretation anyway.
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>>181397828
>I haven't been proven wrong at all
I can't argue with someone who doesn't even read rebuttals to their arguments. You never posted any evidence and when you did, you exaggerated to a point where it didn't even make sense. Your right, you do make me upset. Not because of your opinions, but because of how you refuse to actually entertain the idea that your arguments are flawed when presented with counterarguments and evidence
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>>181398002
>The difference is that when Morgana belittles Ryuji, it's for actual things Ryuji does.
Yeah, like telling him he's pathetic for missing in combat. Like he does everyone else.

Oh wait, he doesn't. He just does that to Ryuji. It's almost like he has a grudge against him or something.
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>>181398036
Ann G cup
Haru F cup
It can not be helped

^response
F is the ideal size
I am not complaining

^response
No, both of us are funny G and F?
It's at most D and E

They keep arguing about bust sizes and an anon links them to the beginning of the thread where someone posted that gif of Haru in the post-battle animation. Case closed.
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>>181397964
if you are >>181393695 then you're a faggot who literally stopped watching proof that I wasn't lying because you're a stupid nigger who is too afraid of getting caught on your bullshit.

I have outlined the reasons why she is shit and shown my evidence. You and the other faggots have done nothing but whine about how I'm wrong and retarded even though you fail to present any sort of counter-argument. Then you run away like a little bitch the moment I call you out on being full of shit, and then post again bitching about how I was shitting up the thread after you think I've gone.

Not only are you a lying cunt, you're a filthy coward who can't own up the fact that you're a lying cunt.
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>>181398137
Ryuji's cockblocking Morgana
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>>181398175
>F is the ideal size
the japs are a bunch of degenerates
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>>181398059
The only people who would actually be interested in Makoto after seeing how much of a useless cunt she's proven to be in the majority of the game would be the beta males who are into emasculation and need someone to take care of them instead of the other way around.

The game design Mary Sue's the fuck out of her with the student council president schtick, but she's clearly underqualified for even that position when you take what her accomplishments into account.
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>>181398059
>>181398221 applies to you too.

I challenge anyone to point me to a single time I was even slightly shown to be wrong.

Makoto is shit and you're retards for defending objectively shit writing.
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>>181398036
in other words; lame
just like her
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>>181398254
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dv13gl0a-FA
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>>181398243
Cup sizes in Japan are very different from Burgerland. An F cup is like an American D.
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>>181397268
Joker never talks, and Ann and Yusuke are at least aware of the dangers of talking so loudly. Ryuji never considers the ramifications of his actions after the first dungeon.

Like when they're getting popular, all the other thieves get nervous about the hysteria they're feeding into and all Ryuji can do is stroke his own ego.

When the other thieves wonder about the morality of their actions in the Meta Verse, or worry about the dangers they're bringing on themselves, all Ryuji can do is think that he's objectively in the right all the time and never bothers thinking about potential issues down the road.

It feels like he goes from a strong 2/3/3/3/5 in all the social stats in the Kamo dungeon to 1/1/1/1/5 in all the social stats save for guts afterwards. He loses any kindness or understanding or proficiency or knowledge (even his street smarts start to diminish).

In his Confidant, Ryuji is a perfectly solid guy, he's probably my favorite of the Chariot Personas among P3-P5 in his Confidant
But in the main story he just becomes more and more of a dumb asshole who's rude to people for no reason and basically a pre-Olympics Kamoshida
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>>181398002
>When Morgana gets belittle by Ryuji, particularly on the 'useless' note, there is nothing to indicate that Morgana is any more or less useful than Ann or Ryuji in the story
And Morgana was useless. He wasn't actually adding anything the others couldn't cover, specially in the information front.
Also, his constant shitting on Ryuji is not only uncalled for, he's only doing that to be a dick and he keeps twisting that knife.
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>>181398221
You're whole argument whether Makoto had planned for the whole thing, you "evidence didn't show it
another argument is that everyone was praising her for stating the obvious, your evidence didn't prove it they were praising her suggestion to investigate Sae's Palace
so basically.

>everyone: boy we sure want to get goro and save sae at the same time I wonder what we can do.
>Makoto: we can investigate Sae's palace and prep thing there.
>everyone: good one makoto
>you: reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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>>181398137
Yeah but that's still something Ryuji does.
I'm fine with Ryuji calls Morgana a cat, despite Morgana hating that. It's fine if it's something you ACTUALLY are.

But halfway through the game, Ryuji goes from normal empathy to almost none until a person gets inducted into the Phantom Thieves. The way he treats Makoto, Akechi and Morgana just strikes me as someone with none of the compassion and empathy he showed in the beginning of the game and in his confidant.
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Starting NG+, first play only got me all the girls except Makoto and Haru as max confidants. Is it possible to max them all out (including the guys) or should I focus on the girls now since I got my stats from previous game?
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>>181398604
Easy as piss, just abuse Chihaya's fortunes once you get them
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Is there any point doing merciless post game? Exp is barely noticeable
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>>181398604
It's completely possible to max all Confidants on NG, even more so on NG+ with Fortune and Temperance's help.
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>>181398604
Just use Chihaya when she is available if you completed her confidant in your previous run.
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>>181398254
>>181398309
ok fine then. The video, please tell me the exact fucking frame they said it was HER plan. I have watched the entire video and not once do they do that. All I hear is the word "We" and yes they do congratulate Makoto, but on the her part of the planning not the entire thing. The do the same thing with futaba
>13:30
please link the right video then, cause at 13:30 to 14:30 they never say that
>The game design Mary Sue's the fuck out of her
So if she's a mary sue, how come she's easily pushed around and every single one of her plans outside the metaverse fails? I thought Mary sues are perfect at everything and never do anything wrong
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>>181398586
And Morgana was being an useless piece of shit who couldn't answer any questions that were brought up to him and was completely outdone by Futaba in the Mementos navigation, the only thing he was actually good for storywise.
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>>181398474
Makoto is the only one who gets praise for that whole plan.

Futaba gets a bit of praise for hacking some phones.

But I like how your little play designed to make me look dumb actually does a nice job of illustrating how most of the cast is made to be retarded simply so that Makoto can swoop in and get praised for doing obvious and basic shit.

You already know what I'm saying is true, now you're just frantically trying to paint me as some insane asshole who's getting all emotional because I hate Makoto so much, or whatever.

Truth is, I loved Makoto in the trailers, but the way the developers favored her so strongly throughout the whole game turned me off her, and P5 as a whole. But if it makes you sleep better, you go on ahead thinking I'm some psychopath who only cares about ruining your fun, just don't lie about me and expect to get away with it.
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>>181398440
He could turn into a fucking car.
And he shits on Ryuji for shit Ryuji actually displays, just like Ryuji shits on Morgana for things Morgana actually displays.

It's one thing to say that Morgana is a cat and not as knowledgeable as he seems. But to act like he's useless when Ryuji, as a phantom thief, is often more of a liability in story than he is useful.

Even Ann has the benefit of being able to seduce people and read them pretty well. Ryuji is book and street dumb, he's got a limp that makes him a liability in getaways and he's so loud and brash and self centered, he literally is about to reveal your status as phantom thieves to some girls to get his dick wet.

Morgana shares some of those issues but it seems incredibly odd for Ryuji to use the 'useless' response on Morgana when Morgana, both in game as well as in story, can do way more for the group than Ryuji
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>>181398682
So no going with them unless the bond is growing deeper? Got it.
>>181398723
Really? I got so focused on the girls I did a lot of outing with them even though the bond is not getting deeper. Guess I made a mistake.
>>181398732
Well I'm rich now so I'll do just that.
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>>181398863
And how is Ryuji and more useful?
Morgana can turn into a car and can revive party members mid-battle AND he's arguably more intelligent than Ryuji (even if Futaba has him beat for information gathering).
What role does Ryuji serve the Thieves?
>>181398710
There is no effect on rewards by difficulty level
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>>181398586
>The way he treats Makoto
You mean risking his life to save her when he barely knew her?

I don't think you remember things from the game too well.
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>>181398380
Ryuji is just reverse Junpei, he starts off strong and just gets progressively worst. Tries to redeem himself with his 'stunt' but by that point he's still just a walking joke.

Even his intro arc doesn't address his issues personally, it's swept aside for Shiho/Ann's issues. Kamoshida's abuse against him is literally used against him in his confidant. His handling is just shit tier, it's so disappointing.
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Fresh bread
>>181398937
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>>181397065
>Makoto: 2102 worshippers
>Futaba: 1263 readers
>Ann: 704 readers
>Kawakami: 505 readers
>Haru: 382 readers
>Hifumi: 135 readers
>Takemi: 103 readers
>Sae: 84 readers
>Yusuke: 59 readers
>Joker: 49 readers
>Chihaya: 18 readers
>Ohya: 13 readers
>Akechi: 7 readers

Discuss.
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>>181399108
This. I don't get why the Ryujifags insist he's a good character.
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>>181398791
14:05 is the exact moment.

Yusuke refers to it as Makoto's plan, Morgana agrees and says he didn't even understand it, and also says that he is glad that we have Makoto as the leader. Makoto says that she had a rivalry with Akechi, which caused her to come up with the idea.

She takes full credit for what should have been a team effort, because fuck you the developers like her.
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>>181398870
>Makoto is the only one who gets praise for that whole plan.
Not whole plan for the suggestion only. I have yet to see anything related to "you did makoto without you we'd be dead"
>Futaba gets a bit of praise for hacking some phones.
So they both get praises because they did stuff foor their team I'm sorry than Ann, Ryuji and Yusuke are so useless but what can I do?. I don't know why you're making such a big deal out of it.
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>>181399040
That's the moment when he starts to treat her as a part of the team, which is about when he starts to be nice to any character (Yusuke, Haru, even Goro).
The fact that he's instantly aggressive to anyone he doesn't know, often for no reason, is what strikes me the wrong way especially given how he treated Joker in the beginning.
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>>181399183
>refers to it as Makoto's plan
yeah her plan was to use the palace's interrogation room, not the entire ruse cruise. I didn't catch the part where she takes credit for hacking Akechi's phone or getting Sae through the metaverse. Dude I get that you really don't like her or her fags. But this is just stupid
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>>181399308
Anon, by that point in the game, Ryuji was nicer to Makoto than Ann or Yusuke. Ryuji LITERALLY had to interrupt Yusuke from shitting on Makoto.
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>>181398380
>>181399108
>>181399178
He's fine before Kaneshiro's Palace, and his confidant is great. That phone call after the Casino ruse is one of my favourite scenes in the game.

He was clearly just made into a dumb asshole because they needed to show off how smart and perfect Makoto is.

He has all these idiot moments solely so that Makoto can correct him, because god forbid we go five minutes in the story without the writers reminding us Makoto is smarter than everyone and can do no wrong. He literally starts forgetting things he already knew and lessons he previously learned just so that Makoto can jump in and take things over, time after time.
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>>181399178
Because he reacts realistically to the happenings of the Meta Verse but all the Chariot personas do that.
He's also fairly proactive...except he isn't: he's only proactive in the moment of something happening against him, which means he's actually entirely reactive. He doesn't do anything about the Mafia, he has to react to Makoto taking the lead. He doesn't do anything about Madarame, he has to react to Yusuke being creepy.
I happened to like his Confidant a lot...he grows as a person who recognizes the consequences of his impulsive actions and seeks to redeem those hurt by the thoughtlessness of his actions, but doesn't seek glory for himself in it.

And then his main-story version does literally the opposite of all of that with how he's an instant asshole to new people and anyone that talks shit about him/phantom thieves, never thinks about the cruelty of his words or the repercussions of his actions (Unlike all the other thieves).
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>>181398890
Moving the goalposts?
Ryuji never once questioning his actions in the Metaverse sure makes him look shitty but then you realize as soon as anyone says in the chat for the group not to doubt themselves they all agree in the snap of a finger.
From their perspective, they were taking away the shittiness from shitty people so they wpuld stop being assholes and confess to their crimes. Extreme methods? Maybe, but for the PT that wasn't an issue. They didn't once consider stopping, despite having doubts once or twice.
Morgana snaps at the PT because they were mushy about going after Okumura, he WANTED them to do it. He wasn't considering the morality of his actions anymore at that point.
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>>181396958
I shit you not I've seen arguments where people say Makoto is shit because she's forced and Makotofags saying every girl gets there moments. And now it's the other way around? There's actually an image that salty people post from Family Guy, with Atlus directing Joker to Makoto. You're full of shit
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>>181399553
Oh please, this isn't correlative to Makoto. She may be Atlus's princess but Ryuji has problems with his characters as early as his introduction. For one, his arc isn't even about him about he gets his Persona, but Ann/Shiho.

After he is done being a civil person he is literally just a dumb fuck for 90% of the game and by the time he apologizes nobody wants him around anyway.
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>>181399701
Lmao you mad af bruh
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>>181399519
But Yusuke does it by accident.
My point is that Ryuji's entire sense of good and bad is relative to him and the Phantom Thieves after Kamoshida's palace.

Are they talking shit about us? Are they trying to stop us, even if it is just their job? They must be a bad person and I should twist the knife with them.

Are they on our side? Is it a situation where I can get violent and assert my righteousness with force? They must be good, I'll treat them well.

I agree that he does a turn around but that's my point: Ann apologizes to Makoto for her behavior. Ann never gets angry at Yusuke, neither does Morgana. But Ryuji acts like Yusuke is just being an unreasonable asshole for not giving them dirt on Madarame.
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>>181399275
That phrase occurs literally in every important event from Kaneshiro's Palace onward. And Ann, Ryuji, and Yusuke are useless from Kaneshiro's Palace onward. Literally everything is Makoto's idea. Joker stops being the main character. It was never like that in previous games. If you don't see that as a problem, well all the best to you, have fun. But it's still shit writing, it gets annoying fast, and it's single-handedly killed P5 for me.

>>181399382
They're talking about the entire plan. She didn't do the actual hacking, so what? That's literally not important. It was her plan, and she gets all the credit, like she does for literally every major event that happens after Madarame's arc.

And you're also forgetting the forced shipping, and the fact that she does the navigator's job, and that every line of dialogue in Kaneshiro's Palace is the cringiest shit ever. The ruse cruise is just one of many examples where Makoto steals the entire show.
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>>181399779
Thanks for proving you're no one worth listening too
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>>181399768
If you don't like his character, fine. But even those who like his character admit that he's shitty for a big chunk of the game, and that's done solely to make Makoto look good in comparison.

Like how Morgana forgets the "don't go through the front entrance" rule when Makoto shows up and suggests they go through the front entrance. He called Ryuji a retard for trying that with Kamoshida, but Princess Makoto can do no wrong so they try it, and of course it fails, but whatever she gets a persona that's cooler than everybody else because fuck you she's Princess Makoto Sue.
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>>181399632
They didn't consider stopping because the story is written so that all your mementos targets and palace owners are in the wrong undeniably (save for Futaba).
Morgana snaps at the PT about that issue because he's trying to assert himself as a competent and useful Phantom Thief again. It's why he has the flashback to Ryuji calling him Useless during that argument.

Morgana was projecting his own bullshit, but Ryuji just doesn't consider it. It jsut does not happen on him that he could be in the wrong (again, incidentally, something that his Confidant addresses explicitly even in the first rank).
I agree that the other thieves are complicit with his complacency, but at least they bring it up.
They're not all good people but Ryuji is the only one I would consider to be a bad person doing good things by happenstance.

I wager half the reason he bothers with Kamoshida is because of his personal issues. If he never personally was abused by Kamoshida, I wager Ryuji would hear and know about the rumors and do nothing, if only because going with the flow and being unquestioning of his own status is what he does after the Kamoshida dungeon
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>>181399898
Ok, so it looks like that no matter how many times I show you that she doesn't take credit for the entire fucking plan you're not gonna change. Let's agree to disagree, you can keep on hating and thinking she's the worst thing to happen to persona. I'll continue to like her and enjoy the character and the game. See you in the next thread bb
>>181400115
same to you <3
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>>181400115
The Makoto thing was done for a reason though, they're not able to do it afterwards though.

I agree it violated the rule but at least they gave an explanation.

Makoto does tend to lose some of her more distinct qualities though...she's competent but she loses her trained tick for conforming to others' wishes, her disconnection from normal students, her own intense desire for justice as the story goes on.
She becomes a "Oh look, Makoto solved this issue for us"

Like especially with Medjed, i would have thought that Ann would do the majority of the talking to Futaba given how much better her people skills ought to be from someone whose entire social link is about getting to be better with normal people
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>>181399898
>Joker stops being the main character
Because he isn't the brains? Well, Door-kun wasn't the main character for half the game then, because everything was Mitsuru's plan for a long time.
Joker is the anchor point to getting Futaba to interact with other people, he and Morgana are why Haru joins, he's what Akechi's aiming for, he's the one who has a beef with Shido, he's the one who brings everyone to the fight against Yaldy. As key to the plot as Makoto gets, she never outranks him in importance.
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>>181400216
Even if you're right, and she's not taking credit for the full plan, what does it matter? She still gets her dick sucked in that scene, she still gets more praise than anyone else, she still contributes more than anyone else, and it's not just that part either. It's literally every scene after the Madarame arc where Makoto dominates the entire story and everyone else is reduced to bungling sidekicks, that is when she's not acting like waifubait. Even in gameplay they gave her the widest range in abilities, the coolest persona, and she gets to commentate on enemy weaknesses instead of your navigator doing it like in every other Persona game.

But go ahead, walk away like you've won, even though you've proven absolutely nothing, and are clearly just in denial about how shit she is and how much P-team fucked up with her character.
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>>181385883
>>181385281

I despise my dick sometimes.
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>>181399632
It's also not moving the goalposts because my original statement was that Ryuji's accusation of Morgana being useless was false, I provided proof that Morgana was useful (can turn into car, intelligent enough to help problem solve, creative enough to provide advice for how to approach cognition), in fact more useful than Ryuji himself

Morgana is not the most useful but the only party member I can think of who actually serves no use to the PT in story or in gameplay is Ryuji.
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>>181400527
Joker is the foundational character who spurs on others' growth. The Main character does not necessarily need to be the most capable, nor the sole source of agency for the team.
What he does need to be is essential from a characterization and relational standpoint, which he absolutely is.

He, prior to his incident, was the least marginalized or oppressed character of the party but he voluntarily decides to risk his neck to oppose a societal giant. He gives up his comfort in society for doing the right thing.

Thus, he's the ultimate catalyst, in backstory and personality, for spurring others onto rebellion
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>>181400446
No, they didn't give an explanation. It's just "Makoto says we should do this plan, and despite her not even being part of the PT at this point and completely ignorant about our methods, we'll listen to whatever she says!"

She has no flaws. They say she has flaws, like not being able to really connect with people, or making bad split-second decisions, but those flaws never actually come into play, she succeeds at everything she does, and always is the smartest member of the team in every single situation.

Ann does actually do most of the talking to Futaba, she and Yusuke. But that's never brought up by anyone else. Instead Makoto gives everyone orders on when to hang out with Futaba, and like always, they all just defer to her. Ann is way more emotionally and socially intelligent, but that almost never comes up, and when it does, it's immediately brushed aside to make room for the next "brilliant" Makoto move.
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>>181400638
>Ryuji
>useless in gameplay
>Matarukaja+Swift Strike man
>useless in gameplay
>One of, if not the, best damage dealers in lategame
>useless in gameplay
The fuck
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>>181400527
So Joker's the leader, but Makoto gives all the orders and comes up with all the plans. Do you not see how annoying that is, and how it differs from the other games?

Most of the IT in P4 are not smart. But they're still all responsible for the progress on the case. Chie makes several deductions despite being the meathead of the group, and even after Naoto joins it's still a team effort with everyone contributing. And while Yu doesn't come up with details, he still guides the investigation, he calms everyone down when they're about to do something stupid, he keeps them on the right track. He's an effective leader.

In P5, everyone else says stupid shit and waits for Makoto to make the deduction or come up with a plan, and then they obey and praise her for being so smart.
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>>181401218
>And while Yu doesn't come up with details, he still guides the investigation, he calms everyone down when they're about to do something stupid, he keeps them on the right track.
And Joker's different how? The only time Makoto took the reins all by herself was when they met Futaba and when she decided to have everyone befriend and resocialize the NEET, but they were out of ideas at that point.
Makoto's planning for the ruse wasn't done because she felt like it, she took credit because she thought it through, but it was under Joker's direction.
She wasn't even that important during Okumura nor Shido, and it sure wasn't her idea to destroy mementos.
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>>181401218
>>181400963
>>181400605
You know, if you really feel this strongly about this I'll tell you what. When I wake up, I'll look up a playthrough and watch every scene that involves makoto outside of her confidant onwards. I'll take note of every scene where she is "pushed" and is the "smart" one of the group. I'll also keep track of the other characters and their activity as well to see if there's a true inbalance. I'll start with the moment she enters the metaverse with the PT's all the way to Christmas eve. I don't know how long this will take, but i'll be sure to update and post on /pg/. We'll see if your "claims" about her really do hold up. Again see you in the next thread
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>>181401079
You have Yusuke who provides a comparable benefit of being able to prevent party members from being hit at all with the evasion boost and has one of the stronger and more useful physical in the game (the one that gets stronger after a baton pass).


I concede that he isn't that useless in gameplay but in the story, which is all that Ryuji's character can realistically react to, Ryuji is by far the least useful member of the PT
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>>181400963
I thought the explanation was that Makoto was a customer of Kaneshiro and thus was able to gain admittance more easily, rather than being targeted immediately.

Incidentally, in that moment, they get fucked because it was actually a trap, so Makoto's idea backfired.

Admittedly everyone else thought it was a good idea but the story's consequences said otherwise
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